Dec. 3, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 12 03 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 03 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 12 03 25
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Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live,

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a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics,

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and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes

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after the top of the hour. Right now, I'm Bill Martinez.

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He is Kenneth Abramowitz. He's back with us, looking forward

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to our conversation. Always great to have him with us.

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Kenneth's the founder of Savethwest dot com. It's a website

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dedicated to saving Western civilization from itself. Ken, welcome back.

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Good to have you with us.

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It's always great to be with you.

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Well. He's also the author of the Multi Front war

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Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, Pandemics, racial Strife.

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I think you could add even saving America from itself, Ken,

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to that long list of you know, enemies that are

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attacking Western civilization.

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Right well, you know, it reminds me of the quote

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from Abraham Lincoln years back Civil War time. He had

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a quote, A house divided against itself cannot stand. Well,

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here we are one hundred and sixty or so years later,

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and we're a house divided. We have two cultures, two

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thought processes. Basically, Republicans and Democrats. And by the way,

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not even Republicans are unified and Democrats aren't unified, but

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pretend that they are. And we have twenty seven Republican

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states twenty three Democrat states, and the people can't talk

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to each other, whether it's the governors or just relatives

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of families, and two separate cultures. And it's not healthy.

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Yeah, it's you say too, you're being generous. I mean,

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we're so splinter as you said, I mean, the Democratic

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Party is splintered. I saw that coming for a long time.

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But I'm equally surprised to see the Republicans splintering as well.

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But not really all that surprise because this has been

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a long time coming, because we've lost sight of those

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things that really bring us together, that unify us, don't

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you think.

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Well, there's a number of things that unify us that

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we should lose sight of it. How about the Constitution,

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how about the develop rights, how about the wisdom of

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the Declaration of Independence? How about life liberal in pursuit

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of happiness for everybody. So there's certain American principles that

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are now believed by the Republicans but not believed by

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the Democrats. So that's one fracture. And within the Democrats

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you have old lying Democrats, and then you have the

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communist islnus Crats who are not actually even Democrats there.

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They're communists, socialist, Islamists, globalists, whatever you want to call them,

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And so they have that split. And then within Republicans

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we have a very unfortunate split between the America First,

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which is roughly two thirds of Republicans in America Law,

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which is roughly one third of Republicans. And so we

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have that that's not healthy either.

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Yeah, because and of course we can look back and

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we're seeing the realization of open borders and how we

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have allowed people to come into our country not properly vetted, uh,

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without having any kind of desire to assimilate and add

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to this American dream, only come and take advantage. And

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so now we're seeing, whether it's in Minnesota or other

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states where we have foreigners, you know, we've of our

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hand of graciousness and wanting to help other people. We've

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opened up ourselves and really, as one of my mentors

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used to say, ken is that you could be so

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open minded your brains have fallen out. And I think

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this is the condition of America today is that we

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were so open minded on opening up the borders and

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allowing just anybody to come into our country, and little

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did we know whether it's you know, somal Year or

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Venezuelans who come into the country that want to set

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up their own United States of Venezuela and not the

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United States of America.

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Yes, now, bear in mind, although Americans are wonderful people

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and made that mistake for the reason you mentioned, there

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were evil people who were designing all of this, of course,

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and the evil people were our enemies, which I color

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code the reds, the Greens, and the blues that the communists,

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the isl and the globalists, and they have foreign agents

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working in America against our national security interests and they're

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fermenting a civil war in conflict that we've been discussing.

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But the foreign hands are all over the place. So

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the reds that's China, Russia, the Greens That'srun and Katar,

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and the blues of the UN World Economic Forum and

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the drug cartels in certain social media companies. The fingerprints

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of our foreign enemies are all over the place, and

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we're suffering from making tribe civil war as a result.

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And they also engineered a policy of bringing in something

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like twenty million illegals on top of our already something

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like ten million illegals. To have thirty million illegals out

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of a three hundred and fifty million population, it's almost

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eight percent of the country. And they purposely wanted to

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give them the right to vote and purposely put them

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on welfare, purposely give them a vested interest in voting

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for Democrats, and purposely lead to a revolution against the

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Republicans and the founding documents of the country. So this

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is the contrived civil war that we're in, and now

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we've got to get out of the question now is

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how do you get out of it?

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Well, that's what I was going to ask. I mean,

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are we too far down the road? I mean, we've

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been talking about a tipping point, it almost seems like

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for at least the last ten years, and you know,

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and I think that it's maybe it's had to come

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to this point, Kenneth, that it's become so obvious that

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you can't deny it any longer. And so then it's

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more of a binary choice that either you choose America

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or you don't.

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Yeah, well yeah, yeah. Putting words in their mouth, choosing

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America or choosing our foreign enemies. Right, And there's a

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reason why we're living here. A hundred years ago. My

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grandparents came from Lithuania. If they hadn't come from Lithuania

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and from Poland, some from Poland, I wouldn't be here, obviously.

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But they came here to be Americans. They didn't come

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here to take over and destroy America. They came to

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join America, just like many other folks one hundred years ago.

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But that was legal immigration. When you have illegal immigration,

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now you're bringing in, by definition, criminals, and so you know.

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I sometimes I say to people, just pretend you don't

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know me, and at two o'clock at night, I break

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into your house and I say, oh, here I am

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in your house. I'm illegal immigrant. I'm really hungry, thirsty,

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and can I sleep in the sofa and eat? And

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you look at your refrigerator. Your response is like, who

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the hell are you? And the answer is no, I

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just called nine to one one. They're coming in thirty

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eight seconds and have a nice day if you don't

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shoot me. So illegals have no rights. They violated a

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fundamental principle of breaking an entry, whether it's your house,

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your apartment, or your country. And so the Democrats, which

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are really communists, really the reds, Greens, and blows, purposely

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created this mess for us to fix up and then

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criticize us for fixing up the mess that they.

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Created, exactly, and they established an infrastructure Kenneth, lest we forget,

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I mean the elon Homers and toe lebs in that

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who have come in and now they're in Congress, and

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they are making decisions on behalf of the American people,

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not for our interests, but for the Somalis or for

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Hamas and other outside agents and enemies, as you say, right.

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So that's another fundamental mistake that we made, is we

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could have not allow foreign agents to serve as public officials.

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Exactly.

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We're seeing that in New York City where Mamdandi there

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is no way in the world he should have been

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allowed to run exactly.

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Jas we got we gotta go to quick break. Let's

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go to quick break. We'll pick it up on the

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other side. More from Kenneth Abramowitz. Stay with us.

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Nineteen minutes after the top of the hour, right now

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in Goil Martinez. Kenneth Bramowitz continues with us. He's the

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author of the Multifront War, Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics,

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and racial strip just to name a few. You it's

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all right there in his book that you must read

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because it's about saving the West, and you can go

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to Savethwest dot com. That's the website for more information. Kens.

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As you were saying some of these things, I mean,

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it's just so ridiculous that you would There's no other

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country that I'm aware of on the planet that would

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allow you to come in and run their government as

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an outside agent and be able to do the things

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that the likes of elan Omar and others have done

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to our country.

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That's right, and so, but we don't have a mechanism

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yet preventing foreign agents from running in our public elections.

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So I propose that we have national security clearances for

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all public Anyone who wants to run for public office

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should get a national security clearance.

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for a job at the Pentagon or state a department, yeah, sure,

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or the White House, of course, but if you want

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to run for any office you can think of. There's

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no national security clarence. By the way, Obama never would

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have gotten a national security clarence. Mamdannie shouldn't would never

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get a national security clarence. And so this in the

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squad never they're all working for foreign they're all foreign

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agents or the equivalent to foreign agents, and they should

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have been excluded from the political system.

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Right and ken Even you listen to elean Omar, she

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arrogantly speaks it out that she is she's interested in

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Somalia first, not America first. That should automatically disqualify her.

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Yes, well, also she's an Islamist, and Islamist means someone

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who wants to pose Islam on somebody else, as opposed

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to a Maslim. You see, Islam is both a religion

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and a political movement. Let's call it a fifty percent

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religion fifty percent political movement. So religion is something someone

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believes in himself or family. A political movement is something

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you impose on somebody else. We don't allow Christians, Catholics,

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Jews to impose their religion on somebody else. We spent

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a couple thousand years playing that stupid game until we

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realized that we're all ninety five percent the same. Why

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do we have to impose another five percent where we're

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different on somebody else? You just get death and destruction.

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That's how we believe in Western civilization and democracy. But

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they don't believe that. They come here to impose Islam

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on Christians and Jews. Well, we're at today a Christian country.

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We're over ninety percent Christian. In jew well, it's two

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percent you, but it's eighty eight percent Christian. So you

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can't come to to a Judeo Christian country and say

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I'm going to impose Islam from the seventh century on

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everybody here, whether you like it or not. You go hello,

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And who gave you that right?

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Right? What did did we think they were just kidding

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or something?

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Yes? The trouble is good people don't understand evil people.

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By the way evil people understand good people and know

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how to take advantage of us. Good people don't properly

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understand evil people because we can't understand or believe why

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someone would want to be evil. It's not in our

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you know, if I said to you just pretend quietly,

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let's go rob a bank this afternoon. You would say, hello,

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why would I want to rob a bank? You know

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that the guide could kill us. I don't want the money.

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I want money that I make. I don't want someone

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else's money. I don't deserve someone else's money. I'm not

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going to go rob a bank with you. Okay, that's

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a normal reaction. But when you're evil, all of a sudden,

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there's no rules. So an evil person can say, well,

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if I can get away with it, if I can

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steal the money and run out and no one's gonna

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shoot me, yeah, let's go rob a bank. So I

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have an expression. Evil people are good at being evil.

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Good people are bad at being good, and we have

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to close the gap between how good people act and

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to counteract how evil people act.

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You see the trajectory that this is on, and you

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have been sounding the alarm for a number of years, Kenneth.

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I mean, I have resisted thinking about it coming down

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to another civil war, but it almost seems inevitable, right

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because if just like we did the first time, we

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had to rise up and claim our freedom and fight

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for it. And here we are because we've been apathetic.

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We find ourselves in this situation that I believe is

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becoming more and more dire.

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I just have to take exception with one word that

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you said. You put in the word another civil war.

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So just go back in the past. We're still in

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the Civil War of eighteen sixty one sixty five. The

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Confederates conveniently changed their name to Democrats, and so it's

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a continuation. The Confederates never accepted the fact that they lost.

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We never put them on trial, We never had the

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equivalent of Nuremberg trials. We didn't hang anybody. We basically said, look,

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we're all Americans. We let's get along with each other,

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and I will forget that you started the Civil War

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and killed seven hundred thousand or so people. Let's just

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go forward. And so yeah, they went forward, but they

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still don't. The Confederates now Democrats now Communisism is they

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don't believe in the Constitution Bill of rights. Sanctuary cities

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are one hundred percent illegal. You can't such thing as

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a sanctuary city, you know. Can you imagine I commit

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some crime and the police come and knock on the

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door and they say, oh, this house is a sanctuary home.

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You can't They go, what are you talking about we

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think you broke the lawn and we're arresting you. Hello.

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So one of the first things President Trump has to

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do is eliminate all sanctuary cities, all sanctuary states, and

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arrest any governors or mayors that stand in the way. Now,

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that's that's a good way to put down the basically

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an insurrection right now?

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Exactly. Yeah, speaking of which, when you get the sixth elected,

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insurrection is telling our military that they don't they should

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not obey an unlawful order, but they don't have one

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to show as an example, right.

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Right, right. And also, if they read the Constitution, which

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they don't care about, the president's commander in chief, okay,

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so he makes the orders through the chain of command.

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And so what they're really saying is President Trump is

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not commander in chief. He doesn't have the right to

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command the chain of command. And that's the insurrection. Hello.

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Yeah. Yeah, they accused Trump of inciting an insurrection, which

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is the furthest thing from the truth in such a

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very liberal definition of the expression, where they in fact

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actually actually pronounced an insurrection, did they not.

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Yes, Well, that's what makes it so difficult for good

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people to understand evil people is because in the olden days,

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evil people were just playing criminals. So they would invade

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someone else's country and they say, well, you have wealth,

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I don't. I have soldiers, you don't. I just killed

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whatever soldiers you had, and I'm taking your wealth and

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your wives and kids and have a nice day. There

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was no ideology there. There was just just criminals behaving

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as criminals.

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Yeah, might made right, yes, exactly right.

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Right. But now what they do, and the Nazis were

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great at this is inverting truth and accusing good people

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of doing what the bad people are doing, and it

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confuses the population. You know, I have an analogy, you know,

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Pretend I walk into your studio and everyone's watching and say, oh,

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why did you rob that bank? I saw you robbing

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that bank, and I say, you killed the bank teller,

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you stole the money. You say, I don't even know

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what you're talking about. This is fabricated. Well, the bad

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guys fabricate bad things about good people, and then the

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good people spend half of their time were more saying

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I didn't rob the bank, I didn't kill anybody, I

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didn't steal the money, I didn't go in the getaway car,

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you know, And so the bad guys. As they said,

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the bad guys are very good at being bad.

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Yeah, and they're good at accumulating a network, a pr

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network which has been the mainstream media to give them cover,

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are they.

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Not, Yes, yes, So they have the media, they have

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the social media. They have Hollywood. By the way, in

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my young younger days, I still watch movies from Worldwarre too.

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They were one patriotic the cata blanca. You know, it

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doesn't get better than that. And so Hollywood was patriotic

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in the media, social media, and so they they corrupted, uh,

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these organs, and they corrupted the teachers colleges, which then

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create teachers who corrupt the corrupt the K through twelve

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and corrupt the universities. And so they're they're very methodical

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and very well understand how to destroy a country, in particular,

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it's culture. You see, if a bad guy says, I

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want to destroy America, I'm gonna send ten thousand soldiers,

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they go, excuse me, the soldier's gonna get killed. You

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don't send ten thousand soldiers to America and take over America.

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Let's think of some non kinetic way of taking over

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the country. So that's how they came to the concept

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of a cultural war. Create a cultural war, undermined the country,

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let it fall by itself. We don't have to send

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them the soldiers to fight, because we don't have enough

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soldiers to fight, and we'll lose if we do well.

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Ladies and gentlemen, a lot to think about here, and his

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because as ken said, you know, we've never really ended

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Hey, we're back with you. Good morning, Bill Martinez here

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along with Jenny Beth Martin from the Tea Party Patriots Action. Hey,

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Jenny Beth, the Happy post Thanksgiving. I guess all was well.

479
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Everybody got well fed over the holiday?

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Huh yes, very well fed. My brother hosted us and

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cook a lot of food, so it was good.

482
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Well good, and mom's home she's done well, everybody's great.

483
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Yes, yes, And for those who don't know, my mom

484
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had been in the hospital, so we had an extra

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thing to be thankful for because she was home and

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is doing well.

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Well. Again, we're reminded prayer works, doesn't it.

488
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It does?

489
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Indeed, absolutely well. I'll tea to hear the naysayers about

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the economy. You know, voters vote with their wallet, and

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they were voting with their wallet over this holiday weekend.

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I mean, you know, Black Friday known to bring retail

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into the black out of the red, and it did

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so in a big way, didn't it.

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It really did. And we're still waiting for all of

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the numbers to come in, but the initial reporting appears

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that we had historic sales on Black Friday, meaning historic

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amount of money being spent. And so for all the

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naysayers seeing the economy is bad and people are having trouble,

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people actually felt confident enough to go spend their money

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and not hold on to it. So that indicates that

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consumers feel better about the economy than maybe what the

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charts and the graphs look like for all of the

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so called experts.

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Exactly almost twelve billion dollars and that's first count like

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you said all the receipts are not in, but well,

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that looks strong for our economy and really closes the

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mouth of those naysayers, but they can't help themselves. And

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even cyber Monday looked pretty good too, right.

510
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Yes, Cyber Monday look good. And Bill, we also had

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a record number of people flew by airplane over the

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Thanksgiving weekend, the most number of people who've flown by

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airplane ever, So that was a good thing for the economy.

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And gas prices are down so people could go further

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with a tank of fuel. And I think that all

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of these are indicative of the economy seems to be

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picking up, which is what we said would happen. We

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said it would take a little while, and the things

519
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aren't just magically going to be better overnight, but it

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seems like they're picking up. When January comes around and

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people begin to feel the effects from the one big,

522
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.440
beautiful Bill and people realize that they actually do have

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tax cuts. There are no tax on tips, no taxes

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00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.880
on Social Security, no taxes on overtime, I think that

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people are going to go, oh yeah, things are really

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feeling better.

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Now.

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What we need is for the FED to bring those

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interest rates down yet another time, and hopefully they will

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do that right exactly.

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Well.

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The other thing too, I want to bring to focus

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here is the security that people had in getting on airplanes.

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I mean, because here with the government shutdown and Secretary

535
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Duffy was boy just trying to cobble everything together. You know,

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you had to cut back on the number of flights

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in order to maintain you know, security in the air,

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and here we are in short time afterwards, everything was

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fully operational. I mean that says a lot about leadership,

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doesn't it.

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Well, it does see a lot about leadership, and I

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think it also shows that the people in DC who

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wanted the government to be shut down, and the media,

544
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who are always willing accomplices of the left, they wanted

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air travel to be painful because they wanted the shutdown

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to be painful for people. And Secretary Duffie did the

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right thing. He could have kept things going and we

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might have had a disaster in our country, but he

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did the right thing. He slowed the traffic down to

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accommodate the number of people who were showing up for

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work versus the number of people who were calling in sick.

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And then the government reopened and everything is running again

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as it should be, just in time for the holidays,

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and nobody wants through Thanksgiving messed up. We had enough

555
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of that to last as a lifetime during COVID.

556
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Right exactly. Well, again, this is a smart administration. I

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mean at every turn in managing this kind of you know,

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shutdown forty three days a shutdown. How we've been handling

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national security with Venezuela overseas, you know, still dealing with

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you know, peace of or it's still working hard. The

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President's working hard to try to settle the Ukraine Russian war.

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In that this is a very smart, intelligent administration. You

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can't help but be impressed, regardless of what the mainstream

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media would want you to believe.

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Right, well, I think that that is exactly right. And

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they're hiring business experts from around the country into the

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administration who are part of the cabinet, assistant secretaries and

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further on down, and those people know what it takes

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to run a business and to make it successful, and

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they're taking that same expertise and applying it to the government.

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I think that we need more of that, and then

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we need people to go back and get back out

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of the government and work in the private sector. We

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need fewer people who our career bureaucrats exactly.

575
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Well, and the thing is is that here we are.

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Of course, the breaking news yesterday was about Minnesota, Jenny Beth,

577
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I want to get your read on that. I mean,

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how disgusting billions of dollars going to a terrorist organization

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in Somalia.

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Well, and it's fraudulent. It was through frauds. So it

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isn't just that it's billions of dollars going to a

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terrorist organization, which is bad enough, but it's billions of

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dollars that were collected through fraudulent means, taking advantage of

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government programs, taking advantage of the programs that taxpayers work

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hard to give their tax money to pay for these programs,

586
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.719
being fraudulently obtained, and then taking that money and sending

587
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it to terrorist organizations who wish to harm us and

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other people around the world. It is abhorrent and the

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people involved must be held fully accountable. And if that

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includes the governor of Minnesota, so be it. He should

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be ashamed of himself for allowing that to happen on

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his watch.

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Exactly, Jenny Beth. This isn't something that just happened two

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weeks ago. This has been going on since COVID, right, Yes.

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It's been going on for year years now, and we

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must have accountability for it. This is and I think

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part of it bill is an extension of just allowing

598
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so many people to come into the country through the

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Biden administration. It is allowed for the opportunity for fraud

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and the people who might be taking advantage of such

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a situation to increase. And I'm thankful that President Trump

602
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has secured the border and is working to solve these problems.

603
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And now we need the Department of Justice to get

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involved and hold those who were involved in this accountable.

605
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And we need DHS involved too, because if they were

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committing these kind of crimes and they are not citizens

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of our country, they need to be.

608
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Deported right exactly. Well, and that's the thing that's coming

609
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to light. I mean, here we have, you know, the

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two National guardsmen who were shot won the young girl

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twenty years old dead. The other one is still fighting

612
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for his life. We're optimistic that he's going to be

613
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able to, you know, come out of this. The latest

614
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.239
reports would seem to indicate, but this is really putting

615
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a light, a real strong light on the whole immigration

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process and what Joe Biden did to our country, how

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he endangered us on so many levels, not only citizens'

618
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own lives being at risk, our economy, people coming in.

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You know here, we are out of our graciousness. We

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open up the doors to say, okay, look at Afghani's

621
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you know the problem that you had, come here, will

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take care of you. And what do they do. They

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set up an enclave and then they find a way

624
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to cheat taxpayers out of their money. I mean, this

625
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is really disgusting, and thank god. I mean, I appreciate

626
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Donald Trump reacting like a businessman, like a true CEO, saying, hey,

627
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we got a problem, So we're going to put a

628
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permanent pause on all the incoming immigrants from third world countries.

629
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Right, yeah, we need to have that pause, and please absolutely,

630
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And I'm glad that that has happened, and he's pausing

631
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the process which would apply to those who are seeking

632
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asylum and want to stay in the country. That all

633
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of that needs to be thought back through to make

634
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sure that we're looking up for Americans and also for

635
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non citizens who are here legally. We cannot allow what

636
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happened last week to happen again, and we must make

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sure we're putting in place the proper mechanisms to prevent

638
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that from happening. And I think one of the things

639
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we also need to be doing as American citizens, we

640
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need to understand that not everyone who comes here necessarily

641
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wants to assimilate, wants to be part of the American culture.

642
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They actually want to change our culture and to take

643
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it over, and we cannot allow that to happen. And

644
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we need to make sure that we're reminding our own

645
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children and grandchildren of what it means to be an

646
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American and helping to remind people of what our culture is,

647
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how it is distinct, and why so many people from

648
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all over the world want to come here to be

649
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part of this culture.

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That's what makes the immigration process effective is when people

651
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come here and they want to add to the proposition

652
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of this American dream, not take away and assimilate. When

653
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you look back historically, that's what made immigration system work. Unfortunately, yes,

654
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it's been broken on purpose, and you know, God blessed

655
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.039
Donald Trump and the administration doing everything they can to

656
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do it. But this is a major heavy lift that

657
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is going to require all of us to participate in right.

658
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Yeah, it is. And to be sure, Bill, there are

659
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people who come here who don't want to be part

660
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of our culture and don't want to assimilate. And then

661
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there are others who come and they do want to

662
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be part of it, and they want to assimilate, and

663
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they want to provide a better life for themselves than

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their own children and grandchildren. And that's what we want.

665
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We want people who want to come here legally following

666
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the law and want to be part of this great

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American experiment and help continue it on. We just one

668
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way that we can help ensure that happens is to

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remind our own children, and our neighbors, and our grandchildren

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and others what makes America great. And we've got so

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many opportunities to do that between now in July, as

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we approach the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our country.

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Exactly, it is time. If you have not, you've got

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to activate your citizenship. And the place to go, Jenny Beth.

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Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez. Here, we've got

751
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Jeremy Beck joining us. Always good to see Jeremy. Even

752
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.079
after Thanksgiving, I take it you had a great one

753
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:47.960
with the family and all.

754
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.679
Absolutely, you know, the great to get together with loved ones,

755
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whether the friends or relations, and I hope you had

756
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the same.

757
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:59.320
Yeah, and the rules of engagement. We're all very peaceful.

758
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.679
Nobody through breakfast dinner roles in anybody because they were

759
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.320
on the wrong side of the political divide here.

760
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.480
That's that's certainly the way it wasn't in my family.

761
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:14.559
And I'm sure just like Americans across the country, when

762
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.079
you get extended family involved, of course, there's going to

763
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:20.559
be a lot of different there's going to be viewpoint diversity.

764
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.400
I look, this isn't you know where This isn't necessarily

765
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.400
my wheel. It's just my personal opinion is that I

766
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:31.119
get so depressed every year when we see these articles about,

767
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:34.119
you know, how to survive Thanksgiving and whether or not

768
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.840
you should invite uncle uncle Joe over.

769
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:38.679
You know, it's like, of course you should invite uncle

770
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.159
Joe over. You can't let you can't let politics.

771
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.840
Politics are important, but A you should be able to

772
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.960
discuss them, and B you should be able to have

773
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:53.000
a dinner without without allowing those discussions to derail spending

774
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.039
time together with you know, with people who are the

775
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:56.800
closest people in your lives to you.

776
00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.480
Yeah. Really when you think about it, I mean here

777
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:03.280
it is like you said, the closest to you family

778
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.880
most important, and uh, you know, and with all the

779
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.960
interesting characters that make up our family, you got to

780
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:11.679
love them, right.

781
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:13.119
You do?

782
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.039
And you know the thing is is, uh, you know,

783
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.440
be careful who you judge is an interesting character, because

784
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:19.559
you may, at some point in your life realize that

785
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you're one of those interesting characters.

786
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.760
Yeah, it takes one to know one right exactly exactly.

787
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:27.800
You have to have to have a little bit of grace,

788
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.559
you know, for people. And if we can't we can't

789
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.239
show grace to our you know, to our relatives, our

790
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.400
family members, then it's going to be you know, how

791
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:36.800
hard is it going to be to do it for

792
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.079
our neighbors and our fellow citizens.

793
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:39.960
Go on and on and on.

794
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.119
Well, I keep thinking, maybe we we've rope adoped ourselves enough,

795
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.920
you know, to where we're just tired of the fussing

796
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.280
that we just want to you know, sit down and

797
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.480
have a peaceful dinner together and enjoy each other and

798
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:56.119
find out what's going on in our lives outside of

799
00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:58.840
you know, the political wackiness.

800
00:45:58.920 --> 00:45:59.119
Right.

801
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.599
Yeah, it's almost like you kind of want there to be.

802
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.719
It's almost we would be nice to have a bell,

803
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.320
an official bell, It says, ding, ding, and now let

804
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.639
the debate begin, and now we can we can just

805
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:12.960
have it out for a few minutes, maybe a half hour.

806
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.480
We'll just decide who's right and who's wrong. Of course

807
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.480
we won't decide any of those things. But then the

808
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.039
bell rings again, and it's like, go to your corners

809
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.000
and you know, have a cocktail or something, you know, relax,

810
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:23.960
gets some turkey.

811
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:25.639
Because you're going to need a cocktail after that, and

812
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.199
you want to make sure that you do that, you know,

813
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.880
maybe post meal, because otherwise you're going to be so

814
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:34.800
knotted up in your gut that you're not going to

815
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.400
have enough room for a pumpkin pie.

816
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.400
That's right, All that trip to fan doesn't mix well

817
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:44.800
with the cerbic and acidic debates family debates.

818
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.960
Well, excuse our detour here for just a moment, but

819
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.880
let's get back on track. Jeremy of course, the co

820
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.480
president of Numbers USA, and of course you know, looking

821
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:00.719
at immigration, boy, immigration really seriously in the cross with

822
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.039
the current events that have been occurring. You know, a

823
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:09.320
National guards woman murdered, another one fighting for his life.

824
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.119
We've got all that wackiness going on in Minnesota. Jeremy,

825
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.599
this is insane. I mean, this is really bringing a

826
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:20.400
focus and Trump saying we're gonna hit the permanent pause

827
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.320
button on all these third world countries that are coming

828
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.119
here that haven't been properly vetted. I mean, and how

829
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:30.000
do you how do you vet after the fact, some

830
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.719
twenty million immigrants that have come into our country.

831
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:36.760
Well, you can't do it all at once. You have

832
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.239
to do it a person by person, one at a time.

833
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.239
This is This is why the lesson that we're getting

834
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.400
here is that any kind of crisis, you know, this

835
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.559
is a different kind of border crisis because this is

836
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.320
quote unquote legal immigration. So I mean, the lesson here

837
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.079
is that it takes a long time to unwind a crisis.

838
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:56.320
This isn't just a border crisis. This is a This

839
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.880
is a legal immigration crisis. These aren't people who are

840
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.360
breaking the law to get here. There are people who

841
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.679
are taking advantage of the legal systems put in place,

842
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:11.039
mostly by the executive branch in these cases. And you know, frankly,

843
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:15.280
we are We're pretty lucky. You know that this tragedy

844
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.760
in Washington, d C. With the National guardsmen and the

845
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:23.000
huge fraud that we're seeing in Minnesota right now, as

846
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.039
bad as those things are, and they are horrific, we're

847
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.000
pretty lucky that that's all we've seen so far. And

848
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.280
there was a two thousand and twenty two report from

849
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.400
the Inspectors General at DHS that said, oh, this Afghan

850
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:40.679
program is really really messed up. You've got over one

851
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.719
thousand people admitted who were recognized as being associated with

852
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.800
terrorist groups, over a thousand people, and this is out

853
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.960
of eighty thousand people, which is just a huge number

854
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.440
in itself.

855
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:51.920
And as you and I have said over and over.

856
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.400
Again, most of the problems with our immigration system are

857
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.880
just the unsustainable levels that they're set at. You know,

858
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:01.599
you can't just suddenly say, you know this, We already

859
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.760
have a program set up for the translators who worked

860
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:10.199
with us in Afghanistan in the early part of this century,

861
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.639
and you know they were under Those are real stories

862
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.199
there where people who were working with our troops were

863
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.920
being hunted down after the fact for working for our troops,

864
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.840
and they had a special immigrant visa for those translators.

865
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.239
This program that this man who shot these National guardsmen

866
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.639
came in through, this was a totally separate program. After

867
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.159
we left Afghanistan, we would just say we're going to

868
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.119
bring in as many people as possible, eighty thousand people plus,

869
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.519
and the Inspectors General said, yeah, it's You've got people

870
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.559
who were admitted who apparently had no first name. You

871
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.400
had a conspicuously high number of people whose birth date

872
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.920
was January first, just all kinds of evidence piling up

873
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.559
that they were not properly vetted, they were not intended

874
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.119
to be properly vetted because the goal was to maximize

875
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:02.199
the policy. It's a maximalist ideology when it comes to immigration,

876
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.239
which is more is always better.

877
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:05.119
And what we're.

878
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:08.239
Seeing now are a lot of efforts by the administration

879
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:11.880
to unwind that. But you can't just make wave a

880
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.000
magic Wand President Trump went on social media to you know,

881
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.400
you know, basically, you know, he's talking a really big

882
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.719
game about just stopping everything, but you can't. It's very

883
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.960
hard to just grind everything to to a halt. It's

884
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:24.880
easier to do that, though, than it is to go

885
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.320
back through and revet people who should have been vetted,

886
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.639
who weren't vetted properly in the first place. So it's

887
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:33.159
a it's a huge thing. And the lesson here really

888
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:36.039
should be both for presidents but also for Congress is

889
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.480
don't let it happen in the first place. So we've

890
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.159
got to we've got to walk into gum at the

891
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:43.519
same time here where yes, we have to address the

892
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:47.280
problems that we are still living with, but we also

893
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.159
have to make sure that we don't repeat these mistakes.

894
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.719
And that is where Congress really needs to step in

895
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.000
and pass lasting legislative reform.

896
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.960
Well, some of these mistakes are just I mean, it's uncommon.

897
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:05.079
I mean, it's lazy, it's it's total incompetence. It is

898
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.320
purposeful in a way that you you want. You can't

899
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:13.719
imagine that it borders evil that you would open up

900
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.360
not even protecting other people. You know, you can't vet

901
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.039
these people. You don't know their their names. You're you're

902
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.840
dealing with a country that has no database. They're not

903
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.400
you know, cooperating. It's not like you can go to

904
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:28.400
them and say, hey, give me some background information on

905
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:32.639
this individual. No, you have to take them at their word. Really. Uh,

906
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.280
and and to do it in this massive number. I mean,

907
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:38.440
if you if you said, hey, look at you know,

908
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:40.880
we had a couple of dozen people. We know that

909
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:42.679
we were kind of the border. We just let them in.

910
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.679
But but millions of people in I mean, come.

911
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:49.320
On, yeah, it's I mean, it's it's irresponsible and and

912
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:53.840
it's reckless. And you know, I don't like to ascribe motivations.

913
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:56.440
It's hard to know, but let's just say, let's say

914
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:56.760
that it was.

915
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:57.960
A compassionate motivation.

916
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:02.039
Well, it's misplaced compassion because you're you end up creating

917
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.199
so much more harm. Uh, you know, you by by

918
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.559
creating a system where fraud can take root.

919
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:08.960
UH.

920
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.199
And and for those who weren't following it, you know,

921
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.840
the massive fraud in Minnesota mostly from the Somali immigrant population.

922
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.800
And again it's worth clarifying, UH, this is not the

923
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.320
majority of Somalian immigrants who are involved in it, but

924
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.559
it's a you know, it's dozens and dozens of people

925
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.920
who are who are defrauding UH local taxpayers there of

926
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:31.400
millions and millions and millions of dollars by basically setting

927
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.159
up these fraudulent UH projects that are supposedly helping kids

928
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.559
and really they're just buying mansions and cars and the

929
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.440
things for themselves and riching themselves.

930
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:41.639
It's really it's really disgusting stuff.

931
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.239
But the but the fair minded Somalis need to speak up, though, Jeremy,

932
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:52.000
because every everybody else is looking at the Somali's there

933
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:56.360
in UH in Minnesota, UH, through elon Omar and what

934
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:59.280
she has said, and what what has been done to

935
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:03.079
the American taxpayer here, and they need to be outraged

936
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.360
even more so about it because it puts a blight

937
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.280
on them, does it not.

938
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.559
Yeah, they probably suffer from a lot like a lot

939
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:16.840
of Americans suffer from lack of good leadership. As you noted,

940
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.920
the people who are basically the public faces of that community,

941
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:25.480
if not the official spokespeople, are not doing a good

942
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:29.840
job of saying this is absolutely unacceptable, and you know

943
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:35.960
we're going to root it out now. USCIS director Joe

944
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.679
Edlow has said he's declaring war on fraud.

945
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:40.760
You're seeing this throughout the administration.

946
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:44.280
They really do seem to be cracking down on fraud

947
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:45.480
are the best of their ability.

948
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:47.360
But how do you do that? Again?

949
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:52.119
We are sixty years into the greatest wave of mass

950
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.800
immigration in US history, right.

951
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:55.320
I have to.

952
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.840
Remind mind our listeners here that just because the border

953
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.280
is secure doesn't mean mass immigration has ended.

954
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:02.840
It is continued.

955
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.199
There's a kind one kind of illegal immigration that it

956
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devolves people crossing the mostly southern border, but also the

957
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northern border. But there are other kinds of illegal immigration

958
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where people overstay their visas. And then there's mass immigration,

959
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which includes all of these Afghans who were resettled here

960
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given work permits, basically allowed to stay here forever and

961
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not vetted on the way in. Those are all legal programs,

962
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.920
and we're running immigration numbers, green card numbers, over a

963
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:30.119
million people a year.

964
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:33.719
It's just way, way, way too high.

965
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:36.639
Yeah, that's a million on top of the million that

966
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.320
we already allow in through the immigration system.

967
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.880
Right, well, it's a million green cards, plus more than

968
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.920
a million guest worker programs, and then there's all these

969
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:50.639
kind of quasi amnesty programs, temporary protected status, parole.

970
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:51.360
And things like that.

971
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.440
So then again the numbers, you're talking about basically adding

972
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a new United States city every year through immigration policy.

973
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And you know, it shouldn't surprise people that our bureaucracy

974
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.679
is not really set up to handle that can't handle.

975
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.639
It just overwhelms the system exactly.

976
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.039
Exactly and exactly.

977
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And you know, the worst case scenarios are always the

978
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:17.880
people who are doing physical harm to people, but there's

979
00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:20.760
tons of other kinds of harm that take place as well.

980
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.599
There's there's a there's labor arbtage where you know, you

981
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:31.239
essentially are creating this this permanent class of underpaid, exploited workers,

982
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:36.599
and you're denying opportunities to vulnerable, economic, economically vulnerable Americans.

983
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:41.599
There's the burden on the taxpayers because a system that big,

984
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.119
you ultimately are bringing in more and more people who

985
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.480
even if they are hard working, great people.

986
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:49.039
They're not making enough money to live.

987
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:52.679
A bad of life here, and so they're taking taxpayer benefits.

988
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.000
So there's harm done just all across the board.

989
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.760
And again, whatever the motives are behind the ideology is

990
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.840
clearly just been more more more. You know, somebody is

991
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.920
benefiting from it and people. Do you benefit from lower

992
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.559
the lower cost of labor. You benefit from having people

993
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:15.159
who come in and maybe are feel feel like they

994
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.239
want to support the party that is for more open borders,

995
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.639
that is for mass immigration. So their political ramifications here,

996
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.320
that's face that we've always in this country had, you know,

997
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:29.320
immigrant surges paired with ethnic voting blocks and people trying

998
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:31.679
to sort of capture an ethnic voting block by setting

999
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.440
the immigration policy to favor one over the other. All

1000
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.760
of those things come into play that as potential motives.

1001
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:40.119
But the bottom line is, whatever the motives are, we

1002
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.480
know that the outcomes are very very mixed, and we

1003
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:47.159
essentially privatize the profits of mass immigration while we socialize

1004
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:47.840
the costs.

1005
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.119
Yeah, there, it is a good point. He's the co

1006
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.960
president Numbers USA. Jeremy Beck. Jeremy, thank you as always

1007
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:55.599
appreciate it. Take care, Thank you, Bill.

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