Nov. 12, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 12 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 12 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 12 25
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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez.

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Welcome, Morning, Welcome, six minutes after the top the hour.

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Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. He's Peter Lemage, and it's

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great to have Peter here. Peter is an attorney, he's

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a Republican strategist and a first generation immigrant from socialists

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Albania who's devoted his career to defending freedom and constitutional principles.

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Nothing like a little bit of socialism to convert you

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to conservative principles.

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Right, Thank you for having me. I mean, I never

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thought that thirty seven years ago, when I left Socialist Albania,

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I would come to the United States and have to

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deal with the exact same failed liberal socialistic policies that

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are left behind in Eastern Europe. And this is something

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that should perturb each and every one of us, because

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America is not compatible with the socialistic values that we

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are important bringing them to the United States. And this

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is something that bothers me because my kids and you know,

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generations to come, they expect us to put up a

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fight against this ideology, which is evil. And it's going

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to weaken, if not destroy, United States. When Arnold TOYNB

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years ago said that great civilizations are not murdered, they

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commit suicide. Are we, the United States of America, committing

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suicide by importing this ideology into our country and having

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one of the largest cities, one of the most powerful

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cities in the United States, New York City, being led

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by a socialist today? Really? Is it buggles my mind?

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Yeah, yours and most of our audience, I will say,

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you know, and as you say, Peter, when you put

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our constitution up against the ideology of these socialists, these

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democratic socialists, you know, the question I get asked all

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the time is how can they take an oath of

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allegiance to the United States of America when they're supporting socialism,

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which is a direct anathema to the Constitution.

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The most perturbing segment of this whole thing is that

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you have these non American born citizens, including me, coming

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to United States, and when you get sworn in to

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become an American citizen, you pledge allegiance to the constitutions,

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to the flag, to the Constitution of the United States,

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and to the flag. And then the following day, if

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you will. Once they become American citizens, they try to

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dismantle the exact same Republican form of government that gave

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them the opportunity to become American citizens. And we have

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seen this with Mondemic, we have seen this with other

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people who are members of the United States Congress right.

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Now, exactly, yeah, yeah.

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Trevor Louden, a good friend of the show, has been

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unrepeatedly and reported earlier this year, which was quite shocking,

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that there were over one hundred card carring Democrats, socialists

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that have been elected to office that are in our government.

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I mean, you talk about a near and clear present danger.

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The immigration policies in the United States have been a

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complete failure. We have been importing people who are not

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compatible with our values. They come to United States pretending

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to be persecuted and prosecuted for whatever reasons. They come

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to United States, they are granted some sort of relief,

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they become American citizens, and then the moment they become

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American citizens, actually they turn on the United States. And

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when Mandowney got sworn in, we completed a form called

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and four hundred. He got sworn in to protect and

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defend the Constitution in the United States. Nowhere in the

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Constitution of the United States is the word socialism mentioned,

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yet openly he claims that he's a Democrat socialist. What

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is that supposed to be a socialist? As a socialist

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that is all but command and control. So he comes

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to United States, becomes an American citizen, and then he

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wants to dismantle the exact system that made him successful

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in this country. And it's it's it's uh. It really

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abolished me and uh many people who came to United

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States like I did that we escaped that failed ideology,

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came to the United States, Uh, succeeded in the United

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States or live in the American dream and helped someone

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like us who comes from those failed countries trying to

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destroy and dismantle what we achieved here. It's it's mind bolding.

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It is it is well, Peter, you know, in some cases,

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I mean, you got these young kids that have been

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indoctrinated by these professors who aren't even United States citizens.

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They hate our country, and these young kids have been

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lied to. And so it really was a setup from Dona.

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It was a perfect stage setting for him to walk

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in and be able to guess act like a pied

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piper for these young kids. Because even when you talk

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to these young kids and say, do you realize if

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you were really overseas and you were in a socialist

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or a totalitarian government, you would be thrown off of

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roofs sir. You know there'd be other things that would

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happen to you that wouldn't be all that pleasant. Well,

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but that's okay, they say. I mean, it's like you

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have no idea. I mean, what a stupid response, you know,

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And here you are, Peter, You've experienced firsthand and it's

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nothing to play with the have no idea what it

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means to have somebody knocking on your door in the

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middle of the night and saying, hey, look at we

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hear you might be doing this or that, and just

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based on any kind of earsday, you know, you're you're

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taken out of your home and thrown into jail.

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If I may share this with you in your audience,

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here's the here's the true story with socialism and communism.

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One of my brothers and I escaped communists Albedia. We

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could have been killed, if nothing else, arrested, beaten and

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tortured because we wanted to search for freedom and opportunity.

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The moment the government agents found out that we left

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Albania illegally from their point of view, they showed up

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and the only people who had guns were government agents

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socialist agents because they had disarmed the population prior to

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They detained my family, including my parents, seven siblings that

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I left behind, nces and nephews, took them to a

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concentration camp, and they tortured my father to death because

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he had failed to notify the government that his sons

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wanted to search for freedom. I always tell people that

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my father was willing to die so his sons could

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live in freedom. And we found freedom here, an opportunity,

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and we live in the American dreamed. But if anyone

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tells you that socialism works, socialism enslaves its own population.

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My family and I were owned by the government. We

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were told what to do, what to think, what goes

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to attend. We had to stand in line to get

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a law of bread, and if they ran out of it,

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you couldn't complain about it. We were enslaved. The first

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time I ever tasted freedom, why it was when I

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came to United States, And if the American boor citizens,

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especially in the younger generation. They believe that socialism work.

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You can look at the Russia, you can look at

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the you know, Eastern Europe. You can look at Venezuela,

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you can look at China, you can look at Cuba.

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You don't see people from the Western world escaping into those.

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Countries, right exactly.

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People from those countries escape into the Western world, including

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the United States. I think that we have failed to

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educate our younger generation when it comes to comparing socialism,

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which is a failed evil ideology, with capitalism and republicanism,

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which gives you the opportunity to flourish and succeed in

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the Western civilization. And we have to do a better

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job actually in these two ideologies.

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Well, Peter, I think we've underestimated the power of socialism

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to your point, because here in America we've had it,

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you know, all things considered fairly easy.

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Yeah, we've had issues. I mean we're not perfect.

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We you know, like our Declaration of Independence talks about

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that aspirational goal of moving toward a more perfect union.

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It's been a process. But you look at you know,

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near two hundred and fifty years of our history. Boy, Taya,

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you know, we got we got, we made some mistakes,

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but we got a lot right here. Or we wouldn't

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be the superpower that we are today, would we.

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Look or human beings? And what the founding fathers gave

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us this republican form of government. They were geniuses. They

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given up a democracy of kingdom. They hit many options,

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but they said, we're going to have a republican form

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of government where everyone is going to be treated equally

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under the law. They said that the Declaration of Independence

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clear the stays that our rights come from God, the

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old Man, live, liberty and pursuit of happiness. No other

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nation the work has this exactly.

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And we have to Peter, we got to go to

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quick break. Let's pick it up on the other side.

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and attorney of Republican Strategists, first generation immigrant from Socialists Albania.

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Let me ask you first, and then we're going to

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to pick up where we left off. You're in Albania.

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How did you hear about America in such a way

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that you left your parents behind? And I'm sure you

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and your brother left knowing that this was going to

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put your family in danger.

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There was a radio station called Voice of America. Oh yeah,

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and my father and his brother, my uncle Jack, they

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would listen to that Voice of America every single night,

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and they understood that there is a greater opportunity out

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there and they would listen to it. And sometimes we

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the children did the same thing, listen to Voice of America.

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But when they were listening to it, they would bring

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the curtains down on the windows, make sure that they

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locked the doors and that no one else was there

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but them and the family members, because we knew that

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every family would have someone compromised by the communist regime

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who would spire you, listen to you, and noted the

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government that this is what you're doing right. It was

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an amazing transition, if you will. When my three brothers

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and I decided to escape, it was my family was

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subjected to such a horrible treatment that describing it to

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American born citizens, they will never understand that even my

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own chips were born in the United States and raised

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here when I tell them the story, like I cannot

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believe this thing can happen, Yes, it could. Human beings

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who believe in this ideology called socialism communism, they become evilized.

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They have no mercy or mistreating their political opponents. What

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happened in nineteen sixties in Albania, they started persecuting and

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prosecuting anyone who disagreed with them, and the Communist government

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were the only ones who wore the guns to forcefully

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make people submit to their ideology. Otherwise you would have

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been subjected to tortures, arrests, and you know, even eliminations completely.

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I've seen my own friends being executed because they wanted

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to escape. I've seen my own friends, my generation being

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dragged by military cars through town to terrorize anyone who

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disagreed with the communist regime. It's not happening in the

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United States right now, but please don't tell me that

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it cannot happen.

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It exactly tells.

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You that the government cannot mistreat you. The founding for

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others were very clear when they established the Second Amendment.

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They wanted us to be able to arm themselves, to

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bear arms against a tyrannical government if need be, because

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they understood that the government can be abusive to its

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own citizens, but for the fact that we can defend ourselves.

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And I hope the American citizens understand this well.

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We got a little taste of it on January the sixth, Peter,

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I'll say that, and especially with breaking news that came

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out over the weekend in terms of who was placing

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that bomb out there.

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But you know that's the topic. Let me let me ask.

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You when you were there in Albania, how how did

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the communists doctrine begin What did they tell you initially

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to make you think that this was all going to

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be hunky dory.

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My father always said that, based on what he had

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seen and heard before, you can vote socialism in You

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can vote communism in but then you need a bloody

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revolution to dismantle it. They were empty promises. They drove

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the wedge between various classes in Unionedsty and Albania. They

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would tell people that, you know, there is a way

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of getting you rich without having to do anything for living.

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They dispossessed the middle class and the upper class, if

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you will. Eventually everybody became poor because they dismantled anyone

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who was producing anything. The same thing is happening in

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the United States when you have people being promised that

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you don't have to pay let's your student loan, you

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have to pay for rent, you don't have to pay

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for transportation. These are promises that cannot be kept. But

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at the end, if these people start disagreeing with the person,

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the individual of the leader who's making these promises, they

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would be the first victims because they are the ones

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who embraced this kind of ideology and now they're opposing

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it because they know that these promises cannot be delivered.

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And this is how it started in Albania. I mean,

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you know, it started in nineteen fourties, came to nineteen

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sixty seven when they shut down all the churches. Nobody

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can go to church God and you know, was replaced

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by the government. You have to pledge allegiance to the government,

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to the leader of the Communist Party, and the whole

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thing within the Albanian population became a joke. We just

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couldn't express it because we know that this is a joke.

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You cannot tell people that God doesn't exist. You cannot

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tell people that you're gonna be saved by Jesus Christ.

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You cannot tell people that in the institute that has

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existed for two thousand years, you know, should be shut

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down and beer replaced by the institution, the communist part

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that was just established. I mean people understood this. They

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just had the fear in their bones that if they

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were to oppose this kind of geology at this time,

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they would have been killed. And many people were killed

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because of that.

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What was Albania like before the Communists?

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It was a European country. It was western and.

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Did I miss you for a second, No, no, no, you're okayd.

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It was a Western country. It had a middle class,

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it had an upper middle class, it was capitalistic, and

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then within ten to fifteen years everything was destroyed.

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Religion was a big thing there there in Albania.

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Right, it was a big thing because if you look

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at Albania, they had three different religions. The southern part

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is the Orthodox, the Greek Orthodox, Central Albanians Muslim and

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Northern Albanian's Catholic. And I grew up in Northern Albani,

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but we always got alan with each other. When the

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Communists came to power, they shut down all the Orthodox churches,

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they shut down the moss and they shut down the

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Roman Catholic churches. And you know, eventually, I mean, you know,

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the Communist party became you know, the God if you

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will or God and all that, right exactly. It doesn't

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mean that the people embraced it, but we were forced

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to embrace it, at least publicly.

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Yeah.

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Well, just like Hitler's Germany, right, it wasn't one hundred percent.

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It was ninety percent of the Germans just went along

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to like you say, like the Albanians to survive. It

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was only ten percent that actually became fascist and were

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you know, agents of Adolf Hitler.

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Absolutely, it was always the minority that is imposed its

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will on the majority. It was about ten to fifteen

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percent of these Albanian communists actually who took over the

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the entire country. And you know, seeing seeing your own

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rance endure what a human being shouldn't endure. It broke

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my heart when I see when I see my father

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standing up to get a loaf of bread for his kids,

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and if they ran out of bread, the government ran

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out of bread, he would come home without bread and

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having to tell his kids that we don't have any

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bread for tonight. I mean, this is something that I

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don't get it when American born citizens would embrace that ideology,

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and if they think that they can do better than

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what the founding fathers of socialism did, they are wrong,

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they are mistaken. Look, I've seen that movie. I was

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born and raised in the communist country. I've seen that

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movie before, and I don't like the ending of it.

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And I would fight against that ideology to the last

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of my bread because I know it is evil. And

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people who come from the said Europe will tell you

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the exact same story that I'm telling you. Is not

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that or making this up, is not to embellishing this.

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It is the truth. And I hope that American born

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citizens and others come to their senses and defeat this

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ideology as soon as possible.

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Peter you know, I think of what your father sacrificed

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for his family, and this is the price of freedom

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that we pay.

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Freedom is not free.

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I mean, we have millions of Americans who have sacrificed

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their lives to preserve freedom in America. And you've got

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people who are coming in from other countries and you know,

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their ideas and theories that have never worked. We have

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two hundred and fifty years of proven history of this

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democratic republic. And you know, as you said, our young

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people have been have been propagandized, if I can put

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it that way, and they've been told a bunch of lies.

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And your voice is so important because they need to

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hear from you. I often say, I'm here in Florida, Peter,

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and we get every year, you know, we get a

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lot of college students that will come, you know, to

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Miami to go to the beaches and everything. I'm saying, Hey,

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look at you need to make a hard ride. Go

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to kya Ocho over there with the Cubans. Talk to

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them about communism. That would be the best spring break

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of your entire life if you went there and talk

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to the people who've been there like yourself and experienced right.

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Very briefly, by May. I think it should be mandatory

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for every American citizen to send them to a communist

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or socialist country, go and see it, observe it, see

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how it works, and come back and tell me that

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socialism works. It's interesting because you don't see people from

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the Western world flee into communist countries, but we see

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people from the communist countries, so socialist countries trying to

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flee into the Western countries. And if anybody disagrees with that,

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I when I talk to my kids, I said, I

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tell them the same story that Look, if you think

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it's such a wonderful ideology, how come that we don't

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see Americans going to Cuba. Cubans wanted to come here.

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How Come we didn't see Americans playing to Venezuela, but

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we see venezuela's on China or North Korea, you name it.

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These are just common sensical things that I think our

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educational system should provide to our children, and politicians have

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to do a better job actually educating our kids when

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it comes to the comparison between these two ideologies.

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And I also say, Peter, to wrap things up, is

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it's our responsibility, individual responsibility to own your own knowledge,

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even things we're.

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Talking about today. Look at don't.

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Take our word for it, you know you check it

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out for yourself and convince yourself. Peter's giving you first

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hand experience. He's been there, done that. His father paid

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so he knows what he's talking about.

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Bill Martinez here with Jenny Beth Martin from the Tea

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Party Patriots. She is the president and co founder. Hey

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Jenny Beth, good morning, How are you?

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Good morning, Bill. It's great to be with you. And

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by the time this airs, it'll be the day after.

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But Happy Veterans Day, a daylight to everyone who is

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a veteran and has served our country.

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Yes, a wonderful celebration. Of course, my birthday was on

526
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Monday as a former marine, our two hundred and fiftieth birthday.

527
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So it's cake all day this week.

528
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Well you need to have two hundred and fifty bytes

529
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of cake.

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I think so, But I got a long way is

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to catch up with it, especially when I'm trying to

532
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.920
stay away from the sweets right now. But hey, look

533
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:57.720
at lots maybe hopefully to celebrate here. It looks like

534
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.200
the Democrats are the reput I should say, didn't have

535
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to press the nuclear button. It's the Democrats. They pressed

536
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a nuclear button on themselves, didn't they.

537
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Well they did, and they haven't. With all of this

538
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shutdown talk and everything that the country and especially the

539
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.680
government employees have gone through over the last forty two days.

540
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The Democrats did not get any significant policy changes at

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all from the shutdown. So they're going to have to

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go back and wonder what was the point and what

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did they get out of the shutdown except to really

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upset a lot of their base, because I think a

545
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lot of their base or a lot of government employees

546
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are actually much more Democrat leaning voters.

547
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Right.

548
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Well, the thing is is that nobody wins in these things.

549
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I mean, it's more misery and pain. And even though

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the media backed the Democrats and trying to blame it

551
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on the Republicans, I mean, you have to really suspend

552
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.400
reality in your own intelligence to think that it's the

553
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Republican's fault.

554
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Right, Well, yes you do. But here's the thing about shutdowns.

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I want to be a little bit careful. I always

556
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feel like I have to be intellectually honest. There can

557
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be a gain for one side or the other when

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you push for a shutdown, because you have a messaging opportunity.

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And while I don't know that the overall messaging opportunity

560
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that the Democrats were playing into worked well for most

561
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of the country and maybe not even for swing voters,

562
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I think it appealed to their base. And I think

563
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the reason that Schumer was willing to do this is

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because he wanted to look like a fighter in primary

565
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and the potential primary election against Alexandria A. Cassio Cortez,

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and he was trying to fend that off. So there

567
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:53.680
is a messaging battle that can be had with shutdowns.

568
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Well, I would agree with you if you have the message.

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I mean, there's power in the message. And again, the

570
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Democrats have really lost their connection with a message, whether

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it was in the twenty twenty four election or currently

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right now.

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And another case in point is this shutdown.

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So I agree that potentially it's there, but they really

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I mean, the deal is is that it's like the

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Democrats sadly are just immune to common sense right now.

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So when you're.

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Not exercising common sense, who are you left to relate to?

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00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.599
Yeah, I agree with that. I think that they are

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are not appealing to common sense. They are appealing to emotions,

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and even some of the emotions that they're appealing to,

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they're not what most people are worried about. They've lost

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touch with. They may be okay with their base, they're

584
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.880
definitely playing to their base on the left, but what

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00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.880
they're losing touch with is mainstream America, the middle of

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the road Americans, and certainly the American voters who are

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00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.759
on the right, but men and women's sports, boys and

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00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:13.000
girls bathrooms, talking about giving away free housing and all

589
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:17.519
sorts of free things in New York while defunding the

590
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:23.279
police and decriminalizing crime. Those are things that might work

591
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.920
really well for their base, but they don't work with

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the average American. The average American looks at that and goes,

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00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.279
what are you talking about?

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This is craziness, right, and especially when you start talking

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about healthcare and you go, wait a minute, you guys

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have had twelve years at least to fix this problem

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that you presented.

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The Nancy Pelosi said, we had to pass it and

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find out what's in it. Well, like a jack in

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the box, it popped up, and it looks like a clown,

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and it's unsustainable, and it requires tax subsidies for the

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taxpayer in order to keep it on life support. I mean,

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and then all of a sudden, now while you're closing

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down the government, you want to resolve that problem in

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a couple of weeks.

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I mean, that's idiotic.

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Well, it is idiotic. And what they're trying to do

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with healthcare is they're trying to prop up a system

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that was designed to fail from the very beginning. It

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was designed to fail so that it can drive us

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all to a single payer exystrom where there are no

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health insurance companies and we rely on the government to

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get our healthcare. And they're trying to slow that down

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because they know that that would not be popular with

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the American people. But the average American who has health

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insurance from their employer and is a taxpayer, they're paying

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for their own their own health insurance. They're paying for

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00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:46.719
increased rates because the rates increase for everyone through the

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Obamacare law. It wasn't affordable, it was unaffordable, and everyone's

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rates have gone up an average of I think eight

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to eleven percent a year most years. And then the

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same taxpayers who are doing all that with their own

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in their own private life, with their own private income,

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also now are propping up the insurance companies and propping

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00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.519
up other people who are either choosing not to work

626
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or or whatever it may be, from the Obamacare subsidies.

627
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.440
So the tax paying, working taxpayer is getting hit three.

628
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It's like a triple whammy. Your own health insurance that

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you pay for the increased costs, and then the taxpayer

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bailout because Obamacare simply doesn't work. I hope that the

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Republicans do not extend the COVID era subsidies from the Democrats.

632
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They must be extended for Obamacare. I hope the Republicans

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do not cave on that. If they don't, it doesn't

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mean Obamacare goes away. Obamacare still exists. We just go

635
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back to the subsidy levels, which were already a lot

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from the original law, rather than what we did on

637
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top of that during COVID You're.

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Talking eighty percent subsidies, Jenny Beth before they add this

639
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next tronch, you know, because of COVID, right, I mean,

640
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like you said, this thing was a fade to complete

641
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from the very start, and.

642
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Here it is.

643
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I mean, and this is all brought to you by

644
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the Democratic Party because not one Republican voted for this,

645
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as I recall, that's Correig.

646
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:19.639
Now, one Republican voted for him.

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Yeah, so hopefully, I don't know reasonable minds if that's

648
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even possible, or even if they just it seems like

649
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anytime the government's involved with anything, then that immediate yank's

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up the price.

651
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You know.

652
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It's just like you know, I was talking to somebody

653
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else the other day, it was like, you know, the

654
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government decided, oh, they were going to subsidize electric cars, right,

655
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and they were going to give everybody a seven thousand

656
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.760
dollars incentive to buy an electric car.

657
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:48.480
Well what did the manufacturers do.

658
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They raised their rates like six thousand dollars, so they

659
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:56.559
absorbed that seven thousand dollars would be incentive to purchase it,

660
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and they they took the income and they put it

661
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in their pocket. And this is what happens with the

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00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.960
system of the government getting involved. So we've got to

663
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find a way to decouple from the government with our

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healthcare where we can do something. I mean, I think

665
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what Donald Trump is doing and renegotiating drug prices and

666
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.840
doing that, I think those are positive angles. But somehow

667
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.119
we need to congeal this in a way to where

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the everyday American can have affordable health care and be

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able to do it on their own like we were

670
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doing it before utilizing our companies who we had companies

671
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.599
supported healthcare and individual and course there's other healthcare programs

672
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that have become available as well that are quite promising

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that you know, need to get out there in the

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marketplace and get the government out.

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Of the way.

676
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Yeah, Bill, you're right. Several years ago I heard as

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because we fought this battle for so very long, one

678
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.000
of our activists said, and it always stuck with me.

679
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:56.159
I wish I could remember exactly which one said this,

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that they would like to see, We would know when

681
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we had a working health insurance model, when you can

682
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.280
go get health insurance and price it out, and insurance

683
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.719
companies are competing in a transparent manner to the consumer

684
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rather than through the employer, so that basically you can

685
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get insurance the same way you can get insurance for

686
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.920
a car. Now, you know, it's not that necessarily car

687
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.360
insurance is the best insurance that there is, but at

688
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.239
least there's competition within it, and that helps drive down prices,

689
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:32.960
increase transparency, and improve the theoretically the quality of care.

690
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And that is the same kind of thing we should

691
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be having with our health insurance instead of where the

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costs are hidden. It's very, very cloudy. It's not a

693
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:47.840
transparent system. It goes through the employer. It just it's

694
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.920
there is not competition. They have removed so much of

695
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the free markets from it that it harms those of

696
00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.000
us who want good quality healthcare. But good quality health

697
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.440
care is separate from health insurance, and people forget that.

698
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:07.000
The Democrats are saying we're fighting for your healthcare. No,

699
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.360
you're fighting for health insurance. And health insurance is different

700
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than care. Care comes to me with my personal private

701
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:17.639
relationship with my physician, not through the insurance company.

702
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Excellent point.

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Jenny Beth Martin from Tea Party Patriots Jenny Beeth how

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Hey, welcome back, though Martinez here.

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Great to have you with us.

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We got Jeremy Beck joining us, the co president of

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Numbers USA.

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Hey, Jeremy, how we doing.

786
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Hey, good morning, and happy belated Veterans Day to you.

787
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Bill.

788
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We honor you and everybody who served.

789
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Yes, well, jay A, what a great day though to

790
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you know.

791
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Remember, you know, here we are in the brink of

792
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two hundred and fifty years Monday was my birthday. By

793
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the way, Marine Corps birthd Day, two hundred and fifty

794
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years you know, and.

795
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Now the Marine Corps two hundred and fifty years old, right.

796
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Not quite well, no, but yeah, it's just been been

797
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a great week and a great patriotic week with all

798
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that's going on, especially now that looks like maybe our

799
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government will be opening up and we'll get back to

800
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some business that's so needed.

801
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Well, that's great, and happy birthday too. But latedly, and

802
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you know, just a quick note on Veterans Day. Certainly

803
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respect the fact that people serve for all kinds of reasons,

804
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and they are free to have different opinions about public policy.

805
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But I will say that the American Legion has historically

806
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been one of the only major organizations, religious organizations, labor organizations,

807
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veteran organizations that has stood practically alone in opposing large

808
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scale amnesties and expansion of foreign worker program and things

809
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like that. You know, I can't speak for you or

810
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any other veteran, but I assume that most people who

811
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serve didn't serve to for a concept of a global

812
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marketplace or borderless ideology. They are serving their country in

813
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their national community. And we also applaud the American legions

814
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long standing support for credible immigration laws and enforcement.

815
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I'd say, you know, the majority of military veterans, certainly

816
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the ones I speak with. In fact, today Veterans Day,

817
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which we're recording this on this day of Veterans Day,

818
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November the eleventh, I'm going to be attending a special

819
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veterans event here in our community. In our community here,

820
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:45.760
we have over fifty vets representing just about every branch

821
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of service except the Space Force. But so it's going

822
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to be quite the celebration that we're looking forward, you

823
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know to that. We got Honor Flight representatives coming in,

824
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which is an incredible program. Jeremy here in South Florida

825
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.519
sponsor four flights a year where they're taking vets from

826
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I think they the last one and I was at

827
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that one in West Palm Beach to greet them their

828
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return from d C. H. There was one World War

829
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two vet one hundred and two years old on the flight,

830
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so he was he was the celeb de ajore.

831
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Oh absolutely, my uh, my grandfather who's passed away for

832
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:25.880
a number of years now, was a World War Two

833
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VET and he was able to uh see the World

834
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.400
War Two memorial in Washington, d C. And that was

835
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:34.239
a really really special time. And of course, as you know,

836
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they had made the government made a really good concerted

837
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.039
effort to get World War Two vets out there to

838
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:40.000
see that memorial.

839
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Uh while they could.

840
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Yeah, yeah, my dad just missed it and uh and

841
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he was a medic in the European theater with Patten

842
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and uh and so yeah he had he had just

843
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he had just missed it.

844
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Uh, he passed just before.

845
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So but anyway, yeah, it's uh, it's a real special

846
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:02.440
time to remember, you know, Uh, why why we have

847
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the freedoms we have, and it's for those that answered

848
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.239
the call and uh and have secured our freedoms and

849
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.880
so yes, the freedoms were for the United States of

850
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America with a boundary with the red, white and blue

851
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.239
flag and uh and that's our that's our heart and

852
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.880
our passion. It's an oath of office that we took

853
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that it doesn't even expire until the day we die.

854
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.719
Jeremy so very grateful for it.

855
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.159
It's a it's a cliche, and it's absolutely true that

856
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freedom isn't free and and some people, some people put

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more into it than others.

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00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:37.559
And again, we're very very grateful for your service.

859
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.880
Yeah, but it takes everybody, you know, even I think

860
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.320
it was uh, even Roy Rogers, I think he said

861
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.199
something about that even those that didn't serve, we need

862
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.519
them because they're the ones that sit on the curb

863
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.199
and applaud the military as they parade, you know, by.

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So that's that's right. And E one, you know, we're

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numbers USA.

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We're in the grassroots mobilization business because we believe that

867
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:03.079
we each have as citizens, we have an obligation to

868
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our fellow citizens and including those who served and those

869
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.559
who don't serve, to make sure that we have a

870
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government that is serving the interests of the national.

871
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Community exactly well.

872
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.719
And to this end, let's talk about what Senator Jim

873
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.400
Jim Banks is doing with the OPT program.

874
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:20.559
Explain that to our audience.

875
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.400
Yeah, So here we are on Veterans Day, and people

876
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:28.840
who serve sometimes in dangerous conditions, combat conditions, they don't

877
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:30.599
do that and then come home and say that, Oh,

878
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:32.920
I did this so that the government can create a

879
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.840
program out of whole cloth that gives employers a discount

880
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.559
for not hiring American workers. That's this program called the

881
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:42.559
Optional Practical Training Program, a program that if you didn't

882
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:44.880
listen to your show regularly, you might say, I don't

883
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.039
believe that exists. I don't believe the government would do

884
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:48.000
that to its own people.

885
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:48.920
But it does.

886
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.039
It has been doing it for decades now. And Jim

887
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.960
Banks has a bill to abolish that program. But what

888
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.320
he is saying is, and he's absolutely right, is that

889
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.280
because the program was never created by Congress in the

890
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:06.159
first place, it was created by executive by the executive branch,

891
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.480
the executive branch doesn't need Congress to end it.

892
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:12.039
Now, this is not true of a lot of immigration programs.

893
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.440
The President of the United States can't just say I'm

894
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.400
I'm ending the H one B program or some other

895
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:20.320
visa program. But the OPT program was created by the

896
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.079
executive branch. It can be ended by the executive branch.

897
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:26.320
President Trump could write an executive order, sign an executive

898
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:31.159
order tomorrow to end this program that again gives it

899
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.360
gives a discount in the form of tax relief to

900
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.599
employers who do not hire American workers and instead hire

901
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.960
foreign workers through this opt program. Jim Banks has sent

902
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.440
a letter to the White House saying, please do this.

903
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:46.199
I'm trying to do it through the legislative process, but

904
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:47.960
you can do it through the executive branch.

905
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.360
What prompted this, what was this a couple decades ago?

906
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.440
What prompted the executive branch to create this?

907
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:57.559
Well, it was it's it's a program that has morphed it,

908
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.320
you know. In its original intent was it was rather

909
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:03.239
small and rather limited. We have a foreign student program

910
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.000
where people from other countries can come in and they

911
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.440
can train or they can go to school for things.

912
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:10.400
And the idea is this, you know, you come here,

913
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:14.079
you experience America, you get the benefit of an American

914
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.199
education system, you go back home, and you take those

915
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:18.159
American values back home with you.

916
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:19.599
That's the sort of the idea.

917
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.719
But there was a program in place for people who

918
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.840
were studying in certain areas of study and say well,

919
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:27.679
let's keep them on for a little bit where they

920
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.440
can do some practical training to really hone up their

921
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:33.599
skills before they go back home. Well, that program has

922
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:38.000
morphed over time into a long term guest worker program

923
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:41.639
that is essentially a back door to a permanent place

924
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.440
in the US labor market. And it was actually during

925
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:50.199
the Bush administration George W. Bush Secretary Chertoff met with

926
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.920
industry lobbyists from Microsoft at a dinner party in Washington, DC,

927
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.119
and the lobbyist said, listen, we don't like these caps

928
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:00.880
on these H one visas.

929
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.360
We need a program, we need a way to get

930
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:03.159
around these caps.

931
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.119
And they came up with this idea of changing the

932
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.760
OPT program to basically be a work around the cap

933
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.400
set by Congress on other high skilled visa programs. And

934
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:17.280
then the Obama administration expanded it to uh in terms

935
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:19.400
of length, and then you know, by the Biden administration

936
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.679
expanded it further. So this is a bipartisan mess. Everybody's

937
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:26.199
got their hands in it. But again this is all

938
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:29.159
done by the executive branch. Congress never voted on it.

939
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.039
There was never a debate. This is why you know

940
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.039
I can't show you point you to a C SPAN

941
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:35.280
clip of a committee saying like, hey, is this a

942
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.599
good idea? No, this is all just done by lobbyists

943
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:41.079
and people in the executive branches saying this sounds great,

944
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:41.920
let's let's do this.

945
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:42.480
All of our.

946
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.800
Donors will be really happy from the big businesses. And uh,

947
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.199
but lo and behold. What it is is employers basically

948
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:51.280
get an eight percent discount on every worker that they

949
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:53.000
hire through this program.

950
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:53.920
And they are workers.

951
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.480
They are mostly former students who have already graduated.

952
00:51:57.880 --> 00:51:58.000
Uh.

953
00:51:58.119 --> 00:51:59.599
And it's it's it's.

954
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.360
You know, it's supposedly of training program. But they're workers,

955
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.039
and they are taking jobs and opportunities that could otherwise

956
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:07.480
go to Americans.

957
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.440
That's the bottom line. What's going on with layoffs?

958
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.199
US companies announced the most October layoffs in twenty years.

959
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.199
Yeah, this is big, you know, because of the government shutdown,

960
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.079
which thankfully is over now, we don't have an October

961
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.960
jobs report, and we may not get an October jobs report,

962
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.719
but companies across the United States announced more layoffs in

963
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:32.159
October than in any other October in twenty years. This

964
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.360
is happening for a variety of reasons. AI is certainly

965
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.639
one of them. There's a big question of mark about

966
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.599
what that is going to do to the labor force.

967
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.679
But this is this is impacting white.

968
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:45.440
Collar jobs, blue collar jobs, people who need to go

969
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.400
to college for jobs, people who are at high school

970
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:50.159
graduates though, all of the cross the board. And at

971
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:54.199
the same time, we have a legal immigration system that

972
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.920
is admitting one million, over one million permanent foreign workers

973
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:02.280
every year now getting numbers USA is we're for legal immigration,

974
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:04.639
but we think the numbers are too high. We think

975
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.440
we need to have a system that is in line

976
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.360
with the actual again, the needs of the national community.

977
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.039
And right now, with record numbers of layoffs being.

978
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.599
Announced in one month alone, this is the time actually

979
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:21.000
for Congress, as jd Vance said, to bring those numbers

980
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:24.159
way way down to hundreds of thousands per year, not

981
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:25.400
over a million per.

982
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:28.280
Year, right exactly. Yeah, generally it's been close to a million.

983
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.440
But in light of what we're trying to do in

984
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:33.599
terms of vacating all these illegals, I mean, we can

985
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.360
do with a lot less for a period of time

986
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.239
until we get this squared away, don't you think.

987
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:37.679
Yeah?

988
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:39.880
I mean, look, the fact is is, we know it's

989
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:41.599
very easy. There's going to be a lot of there'd

990
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.119
be a lot of support for opening up the numbers

991
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.199
again if we really got down into a dire situation,

992
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.679
and some employers will understandably, like you say, massive numbers

993
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.320
of people in the country illegally leaving the country. That

994
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:55.559
has been disruptive in some labor markets, and you have

995
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:57.800
a lot of employers saying I'm not getting the kind

996
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.639
of the number of applicants I would like to say. Now,

997
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:03.559
that's quite possible, But applicants is not the same as

998
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.400
saying there's not any workers out there. There are clearly

999
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.679
a lot of workers out there because millions of people

1000
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.880
are losing their jobs and are going to lose their

1001
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.119
jobs according to these layoff announcements. So the workforces out there,

1002
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:19.559
we need an immigration policy that encourages employers to seek

1003
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.880
out US labor for US jobs.

1004
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:27.119
Well, Jeremy back got a minute left. Uscis upgraded its

1005
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.760
safe system. This sounds like music to my ears. To

1006
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:33.400
verify voter eligibility.

1007
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.000
Right, right, I mean, it's hard to find a greater

1008
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.719
privilege and responsibility for US citizenship than the right to vote,

1009
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:43.679
the right to participate in your elections and government, and

1010
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.920
we want to make sure that that's secure. Well, There

1011
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.519
was an election last week and one of the people

1012
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.239
who were was re elected was a small town mayor

1013
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.360
in the state of Kansas. And the day after he

1014
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.400
was re elected, he's a popular mayor. Day after he

1015
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.679
was re elected, he was charged with voting illegally in

1016
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.559
three different elections from twenty twenty two through twenty twenty four.

1017
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.440
So this is a this is an ongoing developing case,

1018
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.039
but it's another example of why, Hey, regardless of how

1019
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:13.280
big a problem you think illegal voting is are, there's

1020
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:15.480
a bill in Congress that passed the House. The Senate

1021
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.320
needs to take it up. It's called the Save Act,

1022
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:19.360
which is very similar to the SAVE system that you

1023
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:23.639
just talked about from USCIS. It just verifies that when

1024
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.360
you register to vote, you are actually eligible to vote.

1025
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.000
This is a common sense measure. The Senate should should

1026
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:30.519
pick it up.

1027
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:33.760
They should put make senators actually vote on this so

1028
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:37.639
that we can see who's for a safe, secure voting

1029
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:38.880
system and who's not.

1030
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.000
Exactly got to leave it there for now. Co President

1031
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.840
of Numbers USA Jeremy Beck. Jeremy, thank you very much,

1032
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.360
appreciate it. Take care of the will you got there.

1033
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:47.880
Thank you.

1034
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.480
This vacation offer is so good, I'm going to repeat it.

1035
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.440
If you're in your forties, fifties, sixties, even up to

1036
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:58.960
the eighties, I'm support of Ion in Mexico for sixties,

1037
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:01.960
all meals and clues it for only two ninety nine.

1038
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:04.679
Again, come to port of Iarta.

1039
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.760
Mexico, all meals, I'll drinks to ninety nine. We'll even

1040
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:11.320
give you a free Cruiser Land package if you're one

1041
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:14.400
of the first fifty people to call right now. Again,

1042
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:17.079
come to port of iar In Mexico for only two

1043
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.800
ninety nine. Be one of the first fifty people to

1044
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:24.039
book right now in our luxurious all inclusive resort. If

1045
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:27.719
you're in your forties, fifties, sixties, even up to the eighties,

1046
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.039
you deserve a great vacation. So take it right now,

1047
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:33.800
fort Ior to Mexico, well now, and get a free

1048
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:35.960
Cruiser Land package on top of your trip.

1049
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:39.199
Eight hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh eight

1050
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:42.639
hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh eight hundred

1051
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.880
ninety five nine seven oh two oh. That's eight hundred

1052
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:54.039
ninety five nine seventy twenty.

1053
00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:58.559
Getting America back on track.

1054
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.400
Bill Martinez, why.

1055
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:04.360
Hey, good morning to you. Six minutes after the top

1056
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:04.599
of the hour.

1057
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.360
Right now, Bill Martinez here along with Scott al the

1058
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:12.320
one and only. Scott, of course, is a senior fellow

1059
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.480
Discovery Institute. Is timeless book, Rediscovering America How the National

1060
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.840
Holidays tell an amazing story of who we are. It's

1061
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.000
been a number one Amazon you released in the history

1062
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:23.239
genre for eight weeks.

1063
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:25.320
Hey, Scott, good morning to you. How are you, Buddy,

1064
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:25.719
good All?

1065
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:27.159
I'm very well, thank you.

1066
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:27.800
Well, Toya.

1067
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.360
After last night's election, your book couldn't be more timely.

1068
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:35.159
Got a young people, a lot of young people out

1069
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:39.559
there that need to rediscover America because what they're putting

1070
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:44.760
at risk really is their future in basically turning their

1071
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.119
back on capitalism and embracing socialism.

1072
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:53.679
Well, it's almost unbelievable that this could be happening, because

1073
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:57.800
the record of socialism, as the years and decades go by,

1074
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:06.880
only becomes more clearly defined. The record is that socialism,

1075
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:12.960
because it goes against human nature, ends up creating more poverty,

1076
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:17.280
not more prosperity, always in every case.

1077
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:21.039
More poverty and pain. I mean, the reason that a

1078
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.039
lot of these young kids are gravitating to it is

1079
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:27.519
they think that this is their answer to avoid pain.

1080
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:31.320
But little do they know that they're jumping out of

1081
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:35.519
the boat and uh, you know, going into uh you know,

1082
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.159
seemingly calm waters right now, But the waters churn up

1083
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:40.960
pretty quick historically, don't they.

1084
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:45.519
They do they do, And and we're actually seen in

1085
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:51.320
America the results of an increasingly socialized system. What do

1086
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:55.119
we see in America? We see more corruption than at

1087
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:59.719
any time probably in our history. And corruption is everywhere

1088
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.840
throughout the federal government. We have monies that are unaccounted for.

1089
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.920
We have uh, you know, we have just abuse of

1090
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:12.000
the of the budget of the treasury. We have government

1091
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:16.239
agencies that were created by Congress that have no accountability

1092
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:20.480
to anyone and spend all this money in regulating our economy.

1093
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:25.400
So all of this has hurt the dynamism of what

1094
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.639
was American greatness before. And we need to you know,

1095
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:33.039
we need to return the authority and the accountability and

1096
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:37.199
the responsibility to the American people and let and and

1097
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:46.760
just let the God given creativity of human nature, uh flourish, Scott,

1098
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:50.599
Can we do it? Government doesn't create wealth. Government, you know,

1099
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:51.639
taxes it away.

1100
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:56.199
Well, the question I have is, can we expect the

1101
00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:00.199
very thing that created this mess. Can we expect to

1102
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:01.000
heal itself?

1103
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.400
Well, we certainly have a great leader in Donald Trump.

1104
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:10.000
He's not perfect, No, no one is perfect, we know that, right,

1105
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:14.679
but he has you know, he has a clear vision

1106
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.719
and he's articulated it. I mean, he was elected overwhelmingly

1107
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:25.199
on a very clear platform of restoring you know, downsizing government,

1108
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:33.199
restoring accountability to the people, unleashing our natural resources, reducing

1109
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:38.360
foreign entanglements, and empowering the American people.

1110
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.039
But here it is, here, it is in how many days,

1111
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:45.440
Scott and not even a year? I mean that he's

1112
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:48.599
been in office, and he's done a lot of great things,

1113
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:51.199
I mean, you know, to this end. But yet the

1114
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:55.159
voters there in these like in Virginia, in New York

1115
01:00:55.320 --> 01:01:01.559
and New Jersey are saying that's not enough. And and

1116
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.960
and the thing is is that I think that uh,

1117
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:06.239
it's like, for example, the shutdown.

1118
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:07.360
It's been going on forever.

1119
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.920
And I know that Thune and others are hesitant to

1120
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.639
exercise the nuclear option, but you see, they got measured

1121
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:17.880
based on what they did. And who cares that, you know,

1122
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.719
the Democrats and Schumer and you want to call it

1123
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.599
the Schumer shut down, and you know, all but four senators.

1124
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:24.719
They don't care about that. What they care about is

1125
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.239
they're in pain and they want the government opened up

1126
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.920
so their snap can be restored and all these other

1127
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:33.559
things that the Democrats are, you know, claiming that the

1128
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.400
you know, the sky is falling on and you know,

1129
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.239
and I think that, yes, for some people, it's it's

1130
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.840
quite shocking. But for many Americans, Scott I'm hearing is like,

1131
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:48.119
so what the government's closed? I didn't even notice, you

1132
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:51.599
know what I mean, It's true, but yet, but yet,

1133
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:55.599
the the you know, the commentators, especially those on the

1134
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:57.840
left that are anti Trump, that have been building up

1135
01:01:57.840 --> 01:01:58.920
this anti Trump narrative.

1136
01:01:59.039 --> 01:01:59.960
So that's not new.

1137
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.840
Ninety five ninety six percent of what they report is

1138
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.440
all negative towards Donald Trump. I mean, it's almost like

1139
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:07.920
they feel like if they say something positive about Donald Trump,

1140
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.519
they got to go and take a bath and cleanse

1141
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:10.519
themselves or something.

1142
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:15.039
Yeah, it's crazy. You know, when we're reaping the consequences

1143
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:18.840
of really dumbing down our population. We've been you know,

1144
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:23.679
two three generations now have really been dumbed down by

1145
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:26.679
a failing public education system.

1146
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:30.599
It's yeah, but even the government system has contributed to

1147
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:34.119
this Scott, because you've got the Democrats who basically bought

1148
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:36.840
their votes and have conditioned them, really kind of.

1149
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:40.159
Preconditioned them for socialism. It's like, you know, who's your daddy.

1150
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:44.039
Your daddy is Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi's your mama,

1151
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.719
and they're out there handing all these freebies for you.

1152
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:48.840
Now you're going to replace them with mom Donnie right.

1153
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.480
Well, in New York, yes, I mean, unfortunately, you know

1154
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.000
Edmund Burke once said all it takes for the triumph

1155
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:59.000
of evil is for good people to do nothing right.

1156
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:04.280
And the New York I have just experienced that in

1157
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:08.400
crystal clear clarity, that people did not get out and

1158
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:12.960
vote in enough numbers to defeat Mondami. Everybody knew who

1159
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:16.639
he was, so were where were all the voters? You know,

1160
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:22.559
their voting participation typically is only twenty percent, so maybe

1161
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.840
it was thirty percent, but all it would have taken

1162
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:29.559
was another twenty percent participation to vote against Mondami, and

1163
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.760
of course that would be a como vote. Probably the

1164
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.960
outcome would have been different. Yes, I mean, And he

1165
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:40.039
could also criticize the Republican candidate why he could have

1166
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:42.360
seen the handwriting on the wall, he saw it two

1167
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:47.119
weeks ago he should have withdrawn from taking his name

1168
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:51.239
off the ballot and said, I want my voters to

1169
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.880
vote for Cuomo because we have to save New York

1170
01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:01.480
from Mondami, who is a Marxist and anarchical Muslim.

1171
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:02.760
Yeah.

1172
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.559
Well, the deal is is that On one hand, I

1173
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:09.159
understand that perspective. On the other hand, I say, the

1174
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:14.559
Republican Party itself surrendered New York long before Curtis Sliwa

1175
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:20.000
became the nominee and you know, won his position as

1176
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.920
the Republican standard bearer. He was the sole voice for

1177
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:28.760
conservatism and even the Trump agenda in New York, and

1178
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.679
the Republican Party didn't support him because they said it's

1179
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:33.960
a lost cause. And I think that's a you know,

1180
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:37.719
that's a problem within the Republican Republican Party, that mindset

1181
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:40.840
that says, hey, we're going to surrender ground. Well, what

1182
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:44.639
happens when you surrender ground? Eventually you start, you know,

1183
01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:48.960
surrendering you know, some some serious property here. And I

1184
01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:51.880
get it, it's been a while since a Conservative or

1185
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.800
a Republican has been the mayor of New York. I

1186
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:57.440
get that, But but why give it up, Scott? I mean,

1187
01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:01.039
if nothing else, even just to have a narrative out

1188
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.880
there to counter all the bs and all the lies

1189
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:09.039
that are being told about Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

1190
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:11.840
I mean, here at Curtis Lee, while by himself, Bray

1191
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.960
and all is out there. You know, he's carrying the

1192
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:19.280
values and the message of conservatism by himself, with no

1193
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:20.800
help from the Republicans.

1194
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:23.880
I know, I know, I agree with you, Bill, I

1195
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:24.840
agree with you, you know.

1196
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:25.840
But I but I get it.

1197
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:28.079
I mean, in a strategy, a game of strategy, and

1198
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.000
you say, hey, look at you're not going to win.

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Maybe you need to bow out and give it a shot.

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But even if you look at the numbers with his numbers,

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if they all went one hundred percent, if they all

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went to Cuomo, Clomo still wouldn't win. Because the fact

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the matter is this. Cuomo was a terrible candidate himself.

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I mean, he was so unenthusiastic, he wasn't energizing. Yes,

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he's a New Yorker, and I think he has this

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with Scott Powell, the

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senior Fellow at Discovery Institute. Scott, I want you to

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comment on you know, Cuomo as a candidate. I mean,

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because you had this energized young kid, thirty four years old,

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no experience whatsoever, pouring out a bunch of things that

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we're just not true, we're not valid. But you know

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the nature of politics is such as that, Hey, look

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at he's going to be in there. I mean, look

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at what happened with AOC. AOC, you know, has lost

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more jobs for New York than she's created, but she

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still continues to get re elected. And so the nature

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of politics is such as that it moves slow. And

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you know, right now the winds are favoring Mom, Donnie

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and even you know, when you look historically at other

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countries who moved to socialism, it wasn't like it became

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dark overnight. It took a little bit of time, in

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some cases up to ten years before people started realizing

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the problem.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Well darkness has descended on America really in the

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last two or three decades, easily increasingly socialized our economy.

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Well, we've abandoned God, Scott, and you abandon God, You've

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abandoned the truth. That is the basis, that is the

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basis of our lives. Without the truth, without God, you're

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having The America that's developing right now in New York

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is part of the symptom.

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That's right, and we need to your a great voice

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in reminding American people that that is our fundamental problem.

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We need a spiritual revival in our country that has

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breadth and depth, and I think we're seeing pockets of it.

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I mean, we look at what happened in the aftermath

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of the of the murder, the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

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and we find that church attendance is up it's really

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quite remarkable. So I think we're we're we are in

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the midst of a spiritual revival. So maybe New York

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just has to bottom out a little bit more before

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they recognize that it really does matter who's who we

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elect as mayor. We never want to assume it's a

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fada compley, even though a lot of people, I think

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a lot of people didn't vote because they felt it's over.

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Mandamie's gonna win right now.

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Well, yeah, Well the other thing that happened too, lest

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we forget, is you already had people exiting New York

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just as they saw the symptom of socialism and Mamdannie's rise,

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they said, hey, we're out of here. I think something

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like seven hundred and fifty thousand people moved out of

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New York.

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And a lot of those people were people.

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Who have money, who you know, were job creators, and said, hey,

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we're out of here. We're not going to put up

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with this sou And they're saying, now there's another two

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million in the queue getting ready to exit, So I

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don't know who's going to be left for Mamdannie attacks

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to give free bussing and everything else that he's talking

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about Yeah, it's so sad.

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I mean, you know, we're going to see what's happened

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to London, happened to New York City? You know, London's

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a funny arts capital and New York is and.

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How lost is London right now?

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Scott Powell, Well, I mean I watch what's going on.

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I go what happened?

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Right?

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Yeah, Well what happened was they let a lot of

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Muslims into their country who didn't assimilate and who are

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at war with Western civilization. They are literally at war

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with Western civilization. We invite into our country the enemy,

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if you will. And I don't need to say there

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aren't good Muslims who are moderates and you know who

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are folk are family focused and all they they but

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that's one of the problems. They tend to have larger families.

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In other words, they when they get into a country,

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they are creating lots of new citizens.

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And yeah, you talk about chain migration. I mean there's

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like they're reproducing at one.

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It's really just having more children.

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Because the the countries across the board in Europe and

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even America are not replicating their numbers.

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We let me give you an idea here, Scott, to

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your point, in twenty ten, America had two point five

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million Muslims. Okay, by twenty thirty, it's projected that there

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will be six point two million Muslims in our country.

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It's one hundred and forty percent gain. We talked about.

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Let me see if I can find England here. Uk

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okay u k was a two point eight in twenty ten.

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They're projected to be at in twenty thirty five years

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from now, expected to be five point five million, ninety

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four percent increase. And you see already what's happening, because

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I mean we're talking about smaller sized country versus the

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United States and the UK.

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But look at what they've been able to do. I mean,

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in some areas.

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I mean you've got, you know, five times a day,

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the blaring sounds of prayer, the call out by the

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Muslim mosque to pray, and it's screaming, it's annoying, it's

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all get out. When I was in, I was shocked.

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I couldn't believe it. Here I am I met you know, uh,

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the the right there at the dome of the moscl course,

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but you're there at the at the the western wall,

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the prayer you know, the wall there and we're praying,

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and all of a sudden, here here's this blast of

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horns and you know, and it's just I mean, it's

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just unbelievable. And it's like, you know, I was telling

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took over in such a way and we started hearing,

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you know, these annoying sounds, the call to prayer five

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times a day.

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Oh, I agree with you.

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I've traveled through the Middle East. I I know the

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call to prayer sounds because you hear it everywhere.

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Uh you know, as.

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You say, you know it's five times a day, right,

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and it's you know, it's a loud it's a loud call.

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Uh right.

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So well it's and it's just a remind everybody that

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you're you're under the influence of the Muslim community.

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Right right, That's right, I mean, that's what that's what

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it is.

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It's not something that everybody in the community can go, oh, hey,

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time for prayer. Let's all you know, kumbaya, it's all

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going to be. No, it is, Hey, we're telling you

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that our boot is in your ear.

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That's right, that's right, and they know that, they exploit that,

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they know how to how to leverage their small numbers

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into great political power.

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Well, it's not.

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And that's the other thing too.

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See, people think it's a religious moved It's not a

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religious movement.

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That's not what it is.

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You know, this is this is a a a theocratic movement.

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Uh.

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That is all about power and control and their and

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religious entity per se. They want to present it that way,

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but that's not the case.

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You're absolutely right, And and all one needs to know

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is uh is a little bit more about the founder

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of Islam, and that was you know, Mohammed, and he

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was he first of all, he used force, He was

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a murderer. He killed a lot of people in his career,

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in his rise, he killed a lot of people. He

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had multiple wives, the youngest of which was nine years old.

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How does God build a great spiritual religion from such

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a founder? God can't work with such a founder. God

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works through Jesus Christ because he was of course God's son.

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01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:41.720
But he epitomized the fulfillment of the Old Testament. Well,

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01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.359
another big life, good and this came out the other day.

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I was at a Bible study with some men and

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they said, well, you know, Muslims worship the same God

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as Abraham. I said, that's a lie, and they were shocked.

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They couldn't I just couldn't believe. I mean, I couldn't

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help myself. I said, that is a bold place lie.

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01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:04.000
They do not worship the same God of Abraham. If

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they did, they would worship Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit.

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Because go back to the Book of Genesis the opening

1457
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line in the beginning God, it's not God singular, it's

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God plural elohem, It's the trijun God.

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Is what that refers to.

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It was the triune God working in concert to create

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this incredible planet that we enjoy by God's grace and mercy.

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It is not the.

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Same God that Mohammad says. And the other thing is

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is too the narrative of Mohammad, unlike the Christian faith,

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01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:44.960
which you've got documentation written within a short number of

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decades of the death of Jesus Christ. I mean you

1467
01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:52.479
had eyewitness documentation Mohammad what was it two three hundred

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years after he died. All these stories and narratives came

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01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.600
out right about how wonderful and what a great guy

1470
01:19:58.680 --> 01:19:59.039
he was.

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01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.079
Yes, we have to remember that he is the son,

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you know, he is a descendant of Ishmael. Ishmael was

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01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.000
the you know what, was not the blessed son that

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01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:16.359
Isaac was Abraham's son. Isaac created the lineage for the Messiah.

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01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:23.079
Ishmael created another lineage. Ishmael was was not uh you know,

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01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:31.960
was was not Sarah's son. Sarah was barn from Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1477
01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:35.640
So the whole story, the whole lineage is for people

1478
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:38.319
that really want to know history, they have to understand

1479
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:41.680
that the lineage of the of the Muslim faith is

1480
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:46.800
a is is really not an Abrahamic lineage.

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01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:49.880
Well it isn't as much as that God did tell

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01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:52.560
Abraham I'm going to bless him as well, but he

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01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:57.319
is not the chosen one. The chosen one is Isaac, rightes. Yes,

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01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:00.720
and that's and and that's therein is the in the road. Well,

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01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:03.159
we got to leave it there, Scott. There's never enough

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01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:07.000
time with you, you know, thank you so much, you

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01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:09.119
know for coming on so faithfully, and we got so

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01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:11.600
much more you know, to address, So look forward to

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having you back as we mentioned is timeless book Rediscovering America.

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How the national holidays and we're coming upon them right now.

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I love November, Scott, because Scott reminds me, you know,

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November reminds us Scott that it's a time for thankfulness.

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This sets the stage, you.

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Know, for for Christmas and God just it.

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Was amazing at how he arranged so many things in

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our country, including the order of the holidays.

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01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:39.239
Right exactly.

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Yeah, I don't see socialists doing that, but you know, hey,

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I digress. We'll have to stay tuned for more details.

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Scott Pale, thank you so much.

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Appreciate it, my friend, take care godless.

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We're going to be.

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Talking about small business benefits crunch. Okay, the rising cost

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of healthcare a growing challenge for small businesses, and many

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employers are struggling to keep up. Premiums are expected to

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see the biggest jump in fifteen years, as you may

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have heard, putting coverage at risk for millions of workers.

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And joining us is the economist doctor Andrew Chamberlain from Gusto.

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It's a platform that helps small businesses with payroll, benefits

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and more. He's here to break down the numbers and

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what we can do to stay ahead of it. Doctor Chamberlain.

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Welcome to Michelle. Good to have you with us.

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That's great to be here.

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Bill, Thanks, Well, we're hearing a lot about healthcare these days.

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It shouldn't be a surprise. We saw this coming. We

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saw it coming even back in the early days of

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the ACA. But just how big of a challenge our

1591
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rising healthcare costs today?

1592
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That's a huge challenge. So next year, health premiums for

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small business are expected to rise ten to thirty percent,

1594
01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:00.840
as you mentioned, the biggest increase in fifteen year, and

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that's on top of what we found as since twenty

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twenty two, these health benefits, even after adjusting for inflation,

1597
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are up like thirteen percent for small businesses. So it's

1598
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a big it's a big cost increase. But what's very

1599
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.520
interesting is we found that the share of small businesses

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that are offering health benefits it really hasn't budge despite

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these cost increases. These companies are like figuring out a

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way to take care of their workers and still make

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it work.

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Well, that's their most important asset is their people. And

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maybe the planners of our government knew that it was

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going to be the type of situation that these employers

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had to bite the bullet on this deal. But I've

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been saying on this show for quite a while, I

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mean we're a lot better than this. I mean, we've

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got the firepower, the intelligence, I believe to come up

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with a world class healthcare system that would be a

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win win for all concerned.

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01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:57.199
Doctor Chamberlain, that's right.

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01:27:57.239 --> 01:27:58.560
I mean, we've got to figure out a way to

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make this work. Entrepreneurship is such an important part of

1616
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:04.560
not only American economy, but also the culture, and you know,

1617
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:07.079
the whole healthcare system in the United States, it's based

1618
01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:11.159
on companies offering benefits to their employees. And so in

1619
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:14.720
this complicated environment, we're costs arising so much. What we're

1620
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:17.000
trying to do at GUSTA is like find a solution,

1621
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like provide tools that make it easy to figure out

1622
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this landscape and like craft a custom package that will

1623
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actually let companies afford it and do the right thing

1624
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by their employees.

1625
01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:28.159
Can you be able to do this?

1626
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:32.960
Can GUSTO do this outside you know, the government, outside

1627
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of the the current standards and parameters.

1628
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:37.520
Can you come up with something?

1629
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:41.680
Well, you know, it takes some creativity, that's for sure.

1630
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:44.920
And that's what we're really seeing and how companies are navigating.

1631
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So they're like rethinking benefits to try to take costs

1632
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:51.760
and put more control into the hands of their employees.

1633
01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:53.960
And so there's several ways they do this. So one

1634
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way is instead of traditional health insurance, you can offer

1635
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what's called a level funded plan, So this is like

1636
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a customized health insurance just for your employees and the

1637
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:05.840
health benefits they need. Secondly, there's things like these health

1638
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:08.760
reimbursement arrangements, you know, or you can move to these

1639
01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:11.479
high deductible plans where then you couple it up with

1640
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a health savings account.

1641
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So you know, in.

1642
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Any case, like we're here at Gusto to help companies

1643
01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:20.359
like find a benefits package that fits their budget. And

1644
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:22.399
my most important message is it doesn't have to be

1645
01:29:22.399 --> 01:29:24.439
an all or nothing decision. So if you're a small

1646
01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:26.319
business owner and you're freaking out right now because of

1647
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:28.960
these costs increases, my message to you is, like, there's

1648
01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:30.920
a solution. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

1649
01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:32.520
You can kind of like piece it together and you

1650
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:34.239
can still take care of your people and stay in

1651
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a budget.

1652
01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:37.840
Yeah, there's only so much you can do, you know,

1653
01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:42.199
with the current situation. I keep thinking again at a

1654
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:46.079
grander scale, where we can get the entire labor force

1655
01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:50.239
together and leverage it against all these different providers. And

1656
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:53.199
now we've got a bigger Baptist swing and we've got

1657
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:55.560
a better ability to negotiate.

1658
01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:56.560
That's just my thing.

1659
01:29:56.520 --> 01:30:00.239
Because I think in terms of free market and I've negotiated.

1660
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:02.880
All my life. My mother will tell you that, so

1661
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:05.319
it's got to do.

1662
01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:06.159
You know.

1663
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:09.359
So so yeah, so I think again, it's all there.

1664
01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:11.960
I mean, we've already seen some negotiations on you know,

1665
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:15.439
of pharmaceuticals that are already happening, and it's like, Okay,

1666
01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:16.920
that's to me, is the tip of the iceberg.

1667
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:18.840
It's an indication of things that could come yet.

1668
01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:22.279
Right, that's right, and you know, uh, the key here

1669
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:25.720
is companies can't control the environment, but what they can

1670
01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:27.560
do is they can find a path through it right

1671
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:31.479
for their people. So we can control costs through flexibility

1672
01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:33.640
and choice, you know. So at Gusto like we could

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help people figure out, like how do you craft a

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plan that can fit your budget? And I mentioned some

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of the options, things like a level funded plan or

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a high deductible plan.

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You know. Another thing that is that.

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You can offer these add on benefits things like mental health, insurance, vision, dental.

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These are so much more affordable than a full scale

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small business you know, health insurance plan. But they're you know,

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employees love them. They're good for employee retention, and they

1682
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give a pretty good bang for the buck for small businesses.

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Well, and I'm sure Gusto knows in terms of what

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employees are looking for what is at the top of

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their list versus lower on the list. So some of

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those could be expendable those that aren't going to necessarily

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move the needle for the employees, but you get more

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bang for your bucket targeting those issues that are most important.

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And you've got the facts, you've got the background and

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understanding of you know what, you know, what's going to

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help small businesses and their employees' best right.

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Yeah, that's right, and you know it's to one or

1693
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two generations. Ago health benefits were more of a one

1694
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size fits all, but today we've got this kind of

1695
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like all the cart solutions, it's a really complicated landscape.

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There's there's all, there's a whole spectrum of things that

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people can offer, and so the first thing you got

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to do is you need to go talk to your

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people and figure out what it is your employees really

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care about and what they don't care about. And you

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can actually often save a lot of money just like

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piecing together packets that way.

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And we've got all the.

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Tools to help you do that because we don't expect

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most small business owners are an expert in taxes or

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healthcare or healthcare system that they are experts at their business,

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you know.

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So that's what we're here at to.

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Well, and exactly because here it is, you know, one

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time a year, they've got to make some decisions and

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all of a sudden, you know, set the business aside.

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You've got to really focus on this health savings accounts.

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You mentioned that. I got to imagine that continues to

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be very popular.

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Yeah, it's very popular.

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So, you know, you can offer a high deductible health

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insurance plan and you pair it up with a health

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savings account. That's a great solution, especially if you have

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a lot of younger employees who maybe don't have like

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really intensive.

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Health care needs.

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But there's also these things called level funded plans that

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people may not even know about, where you can actually

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get customized health premium rates, you know, just for your

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specific employees and their healthcare needs. So instead of just

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like a you know, a regular health insurance plan, you're

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paying premiums based on like where you're located or you know,

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what industry you're in. These are like more custom tailoreds.

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So these are new options that just weren't available a

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few years ago, and we can help companies, like you know,

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they can potentially cut like a huge chunk of their

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health care costs off by doing so.

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Well.

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We're talking with doctor Andrew Chamberlain. He's an economist and

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he's from Gusto. It's a platform that helps small businesses

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with payroll benefits and more. So, you know, like you said,

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there's a lot more options that are available to small businesses,

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but you don't know what you.

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Don't know, right, Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Yeah.

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So you know, one of the things that people may

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not realize is that there's a bunch of tax benefits

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that like can offset maybe much of the costs of

1744
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getting an health insurance plan set up. So one of

1745
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the big ones is there's a federal healthcare tax credit

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that many companies are eligible for they may not even know.

1747
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And then you know, secondly, like just making you know,

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making pre tax contributions to that those health plans like

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that saves money both on the employee side and the

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employer side. And so there's all kinds of ways that

1751
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you can like crunch the numbers. And we've got all

1752
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these tools here or Gusto to help automate this stuff,

1753
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and are is to make sure you never leave any

1754
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money on the table as a small business. You should

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never leave a penny on the table when it comes

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to taxes.

1757
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Exactly.

1758
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Well, Doc Chamberlain, we got about a minute and a

1759
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half left and I think it's a good opportunity for

1760
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us to review what we've just discussed and what what

1761
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are the first steps for small businesses.

1762
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Well, the first step is you need to assess like

1763
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what like what what are the needs of your employees?

1764
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Go talk to them, figure out what benefits they want

1765
01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.560
and they don't. Explore your options from level funded plans

1766
01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:32.800
to high deductible plans, to traditional health insurance, and then

1767
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:37.680
explore vision, dental, mental health benefits. All these things give

1768
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you a lot of options. And the best way to

1769
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do that is, you know, come visit us at Gusto

1770
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and we've got all these tools put together to automate

1771
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a lot of this stuff and just make it really

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easy for like on a point and click basis, like

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get a package set up for your people that works.

1774
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Well.

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Do you have like a one sheet that these small

1776
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business is going to go, you know, because we just

1777
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touched on some things that are really important for them

1778
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to communicate and get feedback from their employees. Is there

1779
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like a one sheet that's available there at Gusto that

1780
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:06.800
they could pull up real quick and say, hey, you know,

1781
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hand it out to their employees and say, tell me

1782
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what's most important.

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Oh yeah, we've got everything you would need. So if

1784
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you go to Gusto dot com slash benefits, we've got

1785
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tools there and we've got people there to support and

1786
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:21.840
that's pretty much everything you'll need to sort of take

1787
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a first pass and see if you can find a

1788
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way to take care of your people with the health

1789
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benefits packers that fit your budget.

1790
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Well. Like anything, when it's the first time you've done it,

1791
01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:35.279
it may seem a little bit overwhelming, but take some time,

1792
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:38.279
do some planning, and to make sure, like you said,

1793
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:40.640
doctor Chamberlain, that you're not leaving any money on the table,

1794
01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:44.279
that you're leveraging your full investment for the best benefit

1795
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:47.960
not only for the company, but for the individuals most importantly.

1796
01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:49.880
Right, that's right, that's right.

1797
01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:53.720
And you know, the research shows that offering health benefits

1798
01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:57.359
is a powerful way to retain your best employees. We found,

1799
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you know, people that get health insurance are twenty five

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percent more likely to stay on their job in the

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first year. So it's kind of a no brainer for

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keeping your best people well.

1803
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Again, as we wrap things up, where can small business

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owners go for more information?

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Come visit us at Gusto dot com slash benefits and

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then go talk to your tax advisor.

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Also, doctor Andrew Chamberlain, thank you so much for being

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with us. Take care, have a good day.

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Great to be here.

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Bill, Thank you.

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also have to be refined. And if we want to

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stay competitive in the global economy and rise to the

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challenge that China poses, we're going to have to do this,

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and the Trump administration is taking several steps to do so.

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We have.

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Entered into policies that will, for instance, open up a

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much needed mining road and the remote stretches of northwestern

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Alaska exactly where there are enormous deposits of things that

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have both commercial and military applications. We are also recognizing

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the importance of rare earths, and billis I'm sure you

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and many of our listeners know that's something of the misnomer.

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They're not rare, they're all over the place, but they're

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extremely difficult to extract because they're mixed in with so

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many other things. So it's not well the goals over here,

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I no, No, these things are wrapped around everything. So

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you have to do two things. You have to get

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them out and then you have to refine them. Now,

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the Chinese, who have a culture that goes back five

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01:42:49.279 --> 01:42:53.800
thousand years, take quite understandably a long term view of

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these things, and they recognize how important it is to

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have a virtual strangle hold on the global supply chain

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of rare earths. It's not that they have all these

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rare earths in China. They have some, of course, but

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they have gone to Africa and do South America and

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elsewhere close lucrative deals with local officials, which means money

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changes hands.

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But yeah, exactly, of course, yes, right, and they are.

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Extracting them there. The important thing about the Chinese is

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they not only extract whether domestically or elsewhere, but they

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also refine and this is where the United States currently

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is so far behind.

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Right exactly.

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Yeah, while we were sitting back, they were progressing in

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the development of these materials and the refinement processes and technology.

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So yes, we've got some catching up to do here.

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But the good news, as you say, Bonner, is that

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it's not like we have to go out like China

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and go out and capture and make a bunch of

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01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:03.000
outside deals. But you know, and I want to rewind

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here for just a moment, if it's okay with you,

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doctor Cohen, because how we got here in terms of

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subordinating our resources and our development outside of the country,

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01:44:17.319 --> 01:44:20.319
and that dynamic tension is still alive and well within

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01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:23.439
our country and these that's being driven by these globalists

1957
01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:27.119
that are not loyal to America. This is why Trump

1958
01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:31.319
is such an anethema to them, because Trump saying America first, Well,

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01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:36.880
that isn't consistent with the globalist mantra or their ambitions,

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01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:37.119
is it.

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01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:43.520
Yes, we have been engaging in unilateral de industrialization for

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01:44:44.119 --> 01:44:47.960
decades and we are going to pay duly for it

1963
01:44:48.239 --> 01:44:52.439
unless we turn that policy around, which fortunately we are

1964
01:44:52.640 --> 01:44:56.439
in the process of doing. And you're quite right, the

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01:44:56.520 --> 01:45:01.720
globalist element in the United States doesn't want that at all.

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01:45:02.119 --> 01:45:04.600
Of course, the environmental movement for a long long time

1967
01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:08.760
was vehemently opposed to all forms of mining, until they

1968
01:45:08.880 --> 01:45:12.319
discovered that if you're going to have electric vehicles going

1969
01:45:12.399 --> 01:45:15.800
all over the place, you needed raw materials to power

1970
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:19.479
the batteries. So they had to do shall we see

1971
01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:21.760
a certain dance there all of a sudden, Well, not

1972
01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:26.039
all mining was bad. There are also structural problems that

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01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:31.680
we have getting permits to mining under the current regime,

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01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:34.840
which again has been in place for a long long time.

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01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:40.520
It takes a month of Sundays to get permits required

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01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:45.119
to mind, that process needs to be speeded up, which

1977
01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:49.319
the Trump administration is in the process of doing. Otherwise,

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01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:53.439
if it's not, we will never catch up with a Chinese.

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01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:54.119
Without without a doubt.

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01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:57.159
Right, Yeah, Well in the dealer is again this is

1981
01:45:57.319 --> 01:45:59.960
where America has kind of locked itself in a corner.

1982
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:01.840
And thank God for Donald Trump, because he's got the

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01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:06.359
keys to open up the doors and release this this

1984
01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:08.239
power and authority.

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01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:10.840
Through deregulation.

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I mean initially, if you recall, in his first administration,

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01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:17.039
they said the goal was for every new regulation they

1988
01:46:17.079 --> 01:46:19.079
had to get rid of two. Well, it got up

1989
01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:21.000
to a point where it was one to eighteen, almost

1990
01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:24.159
one to twenty, you know, in terms of elimination of regulations.

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01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:26.279
That's how many regulations are out there, right.

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Bonner, that's right. And you know the resources that are

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01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:38.239
going to go into products, be they smartphones, jet fighter engines,

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01:46:38.439 --> 01:46:41.960
what have you. We're going to use those resources anyway.

1995
01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:43.560
So it's just a matter of where are we going

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01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:46.720
to get them? Now we have those resources here in

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01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:50.560
the United States in abundance, do we really want to

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01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:57.560
block off our access to those resources and instead import

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01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:01.680
those resources from the people the Republic of China or

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01:47:01.800 --> 01:47:05.039
some other not so friendly power, or do we want

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01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:07.920
to use our own resources. It's not a matter of

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01:47:08.039 --> 01:47:10.199
we can't do that, No, we will have to do that.

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01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:10.840
Right.

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01:47:11.119 --> 01:47:14.000
Well, in China's teaching us, isn't you know, aren't they

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01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:17.680
because of what they're doing right now with you know,

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01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:21.000
with with the tariff war that's and I say small war,

2007
01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:27.000
small w war that's going on over these minerals. You know,

2008
01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:30.960
they're they're holding back and because but the deal is

2009
01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:33.399
is that America's got a card to play against them

2010
01:47:33.439 --> 01:47:37.079
as well. And meanwhile, what it is. It's motivating the

2011
01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:40.560
mindset of all Americans, that is that we need to

2012
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:43.039
be self sufficient, especially when we have the capability.

2013
01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:48.399
Right. Yes, I think the Chinese leadership has completely miscalculated

2014
01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:55.119
by putting a quasi export ban on the export of

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01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:57.880
rare earths to the United States and frankly of the

2016
01:47:57.920 --> 01:47:59.920
rest of the world. But it was obviously aimed at us.

2017
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:06.359
They don't care about exporting mineral's delision Stein, Okay, they're

2018
01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:11.840
interested in us. They have given Trump yet another good

2019
01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:17.279
argument to use and to push his agenda along to

2020
01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:22.479
extract those rare earths and other critical minerals, to refine

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01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:26.720
them and keep the United States globally competitive. So I

2022
01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:30.319
think what the Chinese did actually will backfire. Had they

2023
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:32.920
done that when Biden was in the White House, it

2024
01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:36.039
would have been a smart move. Doing it when Trump's

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01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:38.159
in the White House was really dumb.

2026
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:42.479
Right, exactly how long do you think it'll take? It's

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01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:43.039
going to.

2028
01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:48.560
Take several years. Again, we can speed up the permitting

2029
01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:54.159
process and get capital invested in this because it requires

2030
01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:56.840
a lot of money upfront, and you want private capitals.

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01:48:56.880 --> 01:48:59.920
But you imagine how much private capital I mean there,

2032
01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:02.279
do you talk about gold in them dar Hills Bonner,

2033
01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:04.640
Oh yes, oh yeah, exactly.

2034
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Give investors incentives to investigate because the potential reward here

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01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:14.880
is absolutely enormous and it's not going to be just

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01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:17.359
as something that happens overnight. This is going to go

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01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:20.119
on for years. It's going to go on for decades.

2038
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:27.680
So provide those investors with the incentives continue to dismantle

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01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:32.359
a completely counter productive regulatory structure that we have, and

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01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:35.399
we we can get there sooner than a lot of

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01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:38.159
people think. Not overnight, but it can happen. But the

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01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.960
important thing is we've got to reverse course and reverse immediately.

2043
01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:44.039
Yeah, we need a World War two mindset.

2044
01:49:44.319 --> 01:49:47.840
You know that we had right Oh well, Rosie Deriveters

2045
01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:50.800
and everybody coming out, and you know, in terms of

2046
01:49:50.880 --> 01:49:54.439
a sense of urgency to make this happen. Two minutes

2047
01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:56.680
left here, and I do want to talk. I took

2048
01:49:56.720 --> 01:49:58.359
you off course and drew you away because I wanted to,

2049
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:00.399
you know, give people a little bit of back, which

2050
01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:02.439
I think is important for them to understand where we are.

2051
01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:05.640
But I want to talk about Alaska. So go ahead

2052
01:50:05.720 --> 01:50:07.640
for the last two minutes, we'll talk about what's going

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01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:07.960
on there.

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01:50:08.239 --> 01:50:16.159
Yeah, Alaska, which has enormous resources precious metals, particularly in

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01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:19.960
this area of northwest Alaska. The problem is how do

2056
01:50:19.960 --> 01:50:23.319
you get them out? Well, you need a mining road,

2057
01:50:24.039 --> 01:50:28.880
and the Trump administration has just handed down an edict

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01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:34.720
to bureaucrats around the federal government that have oversight over

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01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:39.239
this approve the permits for this two hundred and twelve

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01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:45.359
mile long mining road that will enable mining equipment to

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01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:47.760
get in so that we can get to these medals.

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01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:53.439
Over one thousand and seven hundred claims have already been

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01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:59.119
filed on various sites within this mining area, which tells

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01:50:59.199 --> 01:51:01.960
me that the geologists have taken a look at this

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01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:06.720
and said, wow, there's a lot there. Let's file a claim.

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01:51:07.399 --> 01:51:13.039
The Biden administration, being true to itself, of course, block

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01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:16.439
that Trump approved it the final year of his first term.

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01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:20.239
That was reversed under Biden. No surprise. Now now Trump

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01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:23.399
is reversing Biden and they're going ahead with the mining road.

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01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:26.399
Well, how's Murkowski responding to this? Bonne?

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01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:30.039
Actually it's in Alaska, and usually she's a troublemaker, which

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01:51:30.079 --> 01:51:32.600
is as polite a term as as I can use.

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01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:36.800
We may have younger people listening to this, but actually

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01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:39.640
it's in Alaska. In this case, it's not a problem.

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01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:40.159
Right.

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01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:42.199
I was going to say, I would think that she'd

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01:51:42.239 --> 01:51:46.199
be helping the champion the cause and maybe make uh

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01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:50.279
maybe rename the road to Murkowski, yes, opposed to Hamley.

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01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:52.439
Yeah, I'm all for it. Yeah, if that's what it

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01:51:52.520 --> 01:51:53.439
takes it.

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01:51:53.960 --> 01:51:57.279
Yeah, exactly, let's go ahead and make that happen right away.

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01:51:57.640 --> 01:51:57.720
Uh.

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01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:00.720
Doctor Bonner Cohen has been our guest. He's a senior

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01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:04.239
policy analyst with a Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. Doctor Bonner,

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01:52:04.279 --> 01:52:05.439
always appreciate your time.

2086
01:52:05.479 --> 01:52:07.239
Thank you, sir, thank you very much for having me.

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