Nov. 11, 2025

The Bill Martinez Show 11 11 25

The Bill Martinez Show 11 11 25
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The Bill Martinez Show 11 11 25
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well and welcome, glad you can join us. I'm Bill Martinez.

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He is Bill Fetter from the American Minute. Bill. How

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you doing, buddy.

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It is great to be with you.

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Bill. Well. Happy Veterans Day twenty twenty five. It is

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on this day, November the eleventh, that Americans pause to

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honor the brave men and women who have served in

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our military. Veterans Day is an important day set aside

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to honor and show appreciation for all bets who have

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served in the United States military in wartime or peacetime,

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living or deceased.

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Right, Yes, yes, it's an important holiday that traces back

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to World War One. For those not familiar, it was

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on the eleventh hour, the eleventh day of the eleventh month,

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November eleventh. It's eleven o'clock in nineteen eighteen that World

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War One ended, and it was a ceasefire. Is called

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it armistice. And ironically it was signed at five am,

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and they picked the piece to go into effect at

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eleven am. Right, And in that short time between five

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and eleven. Guess what, another eleven thousand men died. They

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were like, Okay, the war's about to be over. Let's

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let's try to get a little bit more land. So

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when it ends, well, it's like anyway. But following World

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War One, which was called the War to End All Wars,

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President Warren Harding in nineteen twenty one had the remains

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of an unknown soldier killed in France brought to Arlington

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Cemetery and buried in the Tomb of the Unknown. And

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you know, you can read the reports. You know, they

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send somebody over there. He goes to a room full

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of coffins and they want to randomly pick there's a

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person that these are guys that they found the bodies

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without dog tags, and so they didn't know who they were.

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And he puts a rose on one of the coffins

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and that's how it was picked. And they bring it

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over and they bury it in the Tomb of the Unknown,

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so they did not know who it was. And then

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inscribed on the tomb are the words here rests in

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honored glory an American soldier known but to god.

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Wow.

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Calvin Coolidge nineteen twenty four dedicated the dedication to the

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monument to the American expeditionary forces, and he said this,

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They did not regard it as a national or personal

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opportunity for gain or fame or glory, but as a

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call to sacrifice for the support of humane principles and

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spiritual ideals. If any doubt doubts the sacrifices which they

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have been willing to make in behalf of what they

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believe to be the welfare of other nations, let them

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gaze upon this monument and others like memorials that have

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been reared in every quarter of our broad land. Let

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them look upon the representatives gathering of our veterans, and

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let them remember that America has dedicated itself to the

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service of God and man. And I just think it's

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important to understand that faith was an integral part of.

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Veterans Day, right exactly.

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Coolidge nineteen twenty six issued a proclamation honoring Veterans Day

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every year, so that's when you begin to see at

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an annual event. Nineteen thirty eight. It became a legal

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holiday nineteen thirty eight, and so in nineteen fifty four

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they changed the name from armistice or ceasefire to Veterans Day,

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so instead of Armistice Day, it's Veterans Day. And then

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they broadened it to honor veterans of all of a

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Marreamerica's wars, not just World War One. And so four

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million Americans served in World War One, and sixteen million

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served in World War Two, nearly seven million served in

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the Korean War, nine million during the Vietnam War, and

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from the First Gulf War to the present at least

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eight million men and women served. And now, for those

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not familiar, Veterans Day is to honor the living veterans.

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Memorial Day is to honor those who have died serving

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the country. So the publes what's the difference from a

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Veterans Day of Memorial Day. Well, one is the living

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veterans and the others a memorial to those who have died.

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Well, Bill, isn't a Memorial Day? Starting to broaden out

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a little bit, because you have you know, some vets

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did not die in battle, but they die subsequent from

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battle wounds, and they have now been I understand, are

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being honored in the more Memorial Day context because their

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sacrifice is as worthy as any even though their death

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was you know, in a different situation wasn't on the battlefield,

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but it was subsequent to ruins or something that happened

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in the battle.

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Right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you got you know,

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loss of limbs, you got PTSD, you've got agent Orange,

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you got all these things that they suffered, but while

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serving that they later died of. Yeah, but they risked

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their lives to preserve the freedoms that we have. And

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among these freedoms is freedom of conscience, freedom of speech,

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freedom of press, freedom of religion. And these are valuable.

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They're under threat around the world today. I recently was

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with a Anglican priest, Calvin Robinson, and he's a big, tall,

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black gentlemen. You may have seen his videos of him

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debating at Oxford, and he's brilliant. And he moved to

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Grand Rapids, Michigan, to pastor a church and he says,

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I cannot go back to England. I said what he goes, Yeah,

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censorship laws. Right, sixteen thousand people in prison in England,

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some for as little as liking a post or forwarding

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a post, some for viewing a post. He says, murders

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and rapist out of jail so they can put people

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that have liked a post in jail in England, and

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then in Germany, they're weaponizing the government against people, even

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using high tech. There's an AfD party which is sort

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of the Freedom Party over there, and they've had like

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a dozen candidates mysteriously die while they're getting close to winning,

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sort of like Mexico, like every year when they have elections,

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they have dozens of candidates that some get assassinated while

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they're taking a selfie with somebody. And I was recently

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in Soul, Korea with Charlie Kirk. Four days before he died.

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We met with Pastor Song Young Bo song and he

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organized a million Koreans to protest the trans bill that

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they were pushing. And the government raids his house, seized

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his cell phones and computers, files twenty two law fair

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charges against him. And we're meeting with Charlie Kirk and

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Charlie says, if they arrest you up personally, I'm going

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to call President Trump. Well, they arrested him two days

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after we left. He's in prison right now. His staff said,

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we're going to focus on this political weaponization against Christians

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in South Korea. We have one last event in Utah,

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then we're going to focus on it. Obviously that didn't happen.

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But these freedoms that we enjoy in America, they're rare

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and they need to be defended. And we honor the

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veterans who were willing to risk their lives to defend

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these freedoms. And so we can pass on to our

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children a country with the freedoms that we inherited.

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And Bill, as much as you know about history, and

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you see this encroachment on our freedoms, on freedoms outside

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of America, I mean, because they still in Western civilization

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respect and honor some of these freedoms they have traditionally

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and for them to be impinged on, what kind of

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warning does that give you as a historian in terms

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of what is near and present in terms of a

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danger to America?

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Yeah, you see that. People that don't. It's the price

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of liberty is eternal vigilance. In other words, what do

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you do to you have to get weeds in your yard? Nothing?

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You do nothing, and you get weeds. It's sort of automatic.

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What do you do to have your freedom stick away?

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Nothing?

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To sit back and the people with ill intent will

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encroach on your freedoms, and so you have you know,

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Deuteronomy twenty eight has blessings and cursings. So if a

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nation of arkens to the voice, they'll be the heading,

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out the tail above and up. And if a nation

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does not harken to the voice of the Lord, it says,

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the stranger will come in amongst you and rise up

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above you, and they will be the head, and you

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will be the tail. They'll be above, you'll be you need,

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you'll they'll lend to you, and you'll have to borrow it.

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So how did God judge Ancs and Israel. He let

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the stranger come in the malchi hit type, mobide, turbite, mosquito, bite, parasite,

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all the others right exactly, pressed the children visual until

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what until they repented, and then God rings up a

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deliver and drove them out. And then the cycle went

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in again every forty years. And so America has been blessed,

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but we've turned our back on God. And so now

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we see we're the most indebt nation in world history,

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thirty eight trillion dollars exactly. And debt is a curse.

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I tell people, debt is fat to the body politic,

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It's like what And it's like, well, what's fat? Well,

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you eat something you shouldn't and you got to carry

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it around. It's dead weight. It's not brain tissue or

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muscle cells. It's it's just fat. But you have to

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keep it alive. It takes effort. And so what's debt?

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You spend money you shouldn't have spent it, but you

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got to pay interest on it. And in the next

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ten years, if this isn't fixed, all of the money

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from taxes will just go to paying the interest on

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the debt.

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At that point we're already paying more in interest so

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that than we do are foreign military. Right now, we're

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up over a trillion dollars in interest payments now, Bill.

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Yeah, and you know the Bible says a good man

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leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Well, what do

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you call them money? Who leaves a debt to their

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children's children? Right? Right, So we need to be concerned,

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and we on Veterans Day remember those who are willing

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to pay the ultimate price for our freedoms, and we

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why do we do this to remind us that we

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have to pay a price to pass it on to

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our kids.

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Exactly, we've got to go to a quick break. We've

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Bill Fetter, the American

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Minute creator. No, you talk about the stranger coming in.

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I mean, of course, we just had a big election

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for the biggest city in our country, New York, and

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you've got a Muslim, no apologetics, no apology whatsoever. He's

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a Muslim, and he's now taken over with promises that

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many of us, many of us conservatives, just like so

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many things have come down the pike. You know, we've

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seen on the horizon what it brings, whether it's the

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Affordable Care Act or some of these other government programs

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that we see that are just a ruse. They're just

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to get votes. They really can deliver. And we've warned

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people time and time again, and here again we warn

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people about what Mamdani has to offer in terms of everything,

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including a free lunch. I guess, but you know this

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is all representative to where our country is going. As

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you mentioned, as we have continued to turn our back

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on God, and this has been going on for over

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one hundred years. It's been a gradual progressive march through

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all the institutions, and our disconnection from God is being demonstrated.

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The results of that, the fruit of that, are becoming

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more and more evident. You just mentioned, you know, one thing,

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which is our debt, but look what's happening to our marriages,

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our family. You know, the absolute horror or surgeries that

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are happening to young kids because they want to change

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their sex, and all this gender confusion that's taken place.

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I mean, it's like we've lost our minds. Bill. Yeah.

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You know, there is even a verse I think it

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was in either a Ezekiel or Isaiah, but it says

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that one of the judgments, he says, this will happen

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to that, and he says, you'll rip off your own breasts.

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Yes, talking about.

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Women was like, what a weird judgment. It's like these surgeries,

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because yes, you know, I was sad now.

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But I mean, you look at billing stuff for just

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a minute. I mean, this is like a Saila moment.

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You never once wounded the Bible. You hear Seilah, and

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you just got to pause and embrace and meditate on

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that for just a moment. The Word of God even

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warns you that you're going to rip off your own breast.

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And we're doing this right now in twenty twenty five,

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to our young girls. What I mean, if this is

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in some form of judgment, I don't know what is

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Bill So.

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A month ago I spoke for a pastor, Chris Toma

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in Michigan, and one of the other speakers was Chloe Cole.

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She was twelve years old going through a normal adolescent

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tomboy phase and searching for ODA. And the school comes

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and they're all, oh, well, you're really a boy in

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a girl's body, and if you get these hormones, and

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they put them and then they sit the parents down

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and they say, would you rather have a trans son

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or a dead daughter, and the parents are like surrounded

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by these people with the white coach and they're like

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uh uh uh, and so they sign the sign her away,

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and later they find out the statistics are the exact opposite.

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It is the trans agenda that causes them to want

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to commit suicide exactly after they get the surgeries. It's skyrockets.

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It's horrible. Anyway, you could have heard a pin drop

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in the room when she spoke, because she walks through

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them saying, okay, well, once you get these surgeries, you

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really feel like you're you and you'll just really feel

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and so, you know, she goes through with the surgeries,

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and then afterwards they're all there. But then after the

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years go on, they go on their own ways, and

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she's left by herself looking in the mirror, thinking what

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did I do? And then she talks to the doctors, well, well,

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we had to affirm you in your decision. She goes,

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I was a twelve year old, right, And she goes

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to the parents and then the parents are like, well

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they told us you you'd commit suicide, and so now

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she's speaking out against it, and so we need to

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get some common sense here. I had somebody explain that

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you have your cells replace themselves, right, your stomach tissue

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lighting cells like every week, and your bone cells every

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couple of years. And so even if you take hormones,

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all it is doing is suppressing the genetic expression right

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of your sexual gene. It doesn't change it. Whenever you

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get a new cell being created any set, every single

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cell in your body it's either y X or xx,

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and females are xx. So every new cell it's career.

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It says I want to go back to being a woman,

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and so they got to take more harmos as the presents.

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Right.

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It's like the body's crying out to get back to normal.

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But anyway, these are judgments on the country.

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And you look by the way that verse, Ezekiel, you

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were right, Ezekiel, twenty three thirty four, Bill twenty three

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thirty four.

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And I.

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Must have read I know I've read it a hundred times.

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I don't know how I didn't relate to it. So

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thank you for bringing that up. And and I think

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it's going to be awareness for you know, our viewers

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and listeners to see that. Look at God's pretty clear.

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I mean, you know, you think about how Almighty is

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and what he created here. You know, you're just talking

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about ourselves and how they reproduce our DNA. You know,

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a lot of conversation about you know, when when his

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life begin, And Charlie Kirk understood that it began. It

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began in an instant, in that first moment of conception,

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within the hour, bill, your entire DNA code, everything at

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that moment when the sperm hits the woman's egg. It

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that's where life begins. Because everything God, God in his

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genius and is almighty wisdom, puts everything into that on

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programs that egg right there on the spot in the

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first hour. It is that conception clearly.

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You know, I mean common sense. If something is sitting

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there in a petri dish and it's not moving, versus

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something that is multiplying millions by millions of cells every second,

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it's like, okay, I think that's living. It's something it's multiply,

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it's a living Where the other is the moment you

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had the twenty three male chromosomes meet with the female

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twenty three chromosomes and you have a complete forty six

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almost and right then and there they have it under

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a microscope that there's a flash of light right, it

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immediately starts dividing in two four six. It was just rapid, rapid, rapid.

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Then millions of cells. There's life, and it's it's a

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human life. Jesus was in Mary's womb from the moment.

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Of conception exactly.

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But you know we were talking about, you know, judgment.

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In Isaiah, there's a vers as God said I created this,

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I created that, and then it says I created the devourer.

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And I thought that's sort of weird. And I thought, well,

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you know, he did create the angel that killed the Egyptians, right,

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the first born in the Age of Death. And then

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I thought, you know, everything that dies there is a devourer.

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A bird dies before long, there are ants that are

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drawn to it and eat it up. A dog gets

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hit by a car before long, there's buzzards that are

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attracted to it and eat it up. A fish in

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a pond dies while little microbes come and eat it up. Well,

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guess what if you have a spiritually dead and dying nation,

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It's going to attract devours. They're going to want to

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come in and then eat off and destroy it. And

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so what do you do when you're under judgment? You

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repent really fast, and when you you would hope, you

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would hope that would be the case.

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I mean you'd be like nineveh right, ninevah. Here's the

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word of the prophet, and everybody's in sackcloth, including the animals.

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I mean they responded right away. Here in America, we've

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had warnings and we're you know, slow, slow to realizing.

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You know, as you say, Bill, and you and I've

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had this discussion before. It starts with repentance. You know,

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you've got to understand what it is that you've you've

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done to offend God.

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Right, Yeah, So he's aust God, which means he has

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to judge every sin, because if he doesn't judge the sin,

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he'd be denying his just nature. So he can put

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off the judgment. And of course the gospel is Jesus

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taking the judgment in our place, right, So Jesus steps

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up and takes the hit in our place. But there's

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a quote from George Mason. He was one of the

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founding fathers, and he says, as nations cannot be rewarded

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or punished in the next world, they must be in

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this by inevitable chain of consequences and events. God punishes

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national sins with national calamities, and so it's this idea

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that if a nation sins, God sends prophets tell him

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to repent and rent. If they don't, it says he

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sends judgment. Right when Solomon sinned, he says, I'm going

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to raise up Jerebohm and bring it back in. He's

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going to rip ten tribes away. And so you think

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of this devourer coming in, and then you look at

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the Islam and how it progresses. So you know, Mohammed

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was a religious leader in Mecca only make seventy converts.

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He gets confrontational, they chase him out of town. He's

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a Muslim refugee. He goes to a Jewish city called

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Yatrib or a Medina, and the Jews let him in

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as a Muslim immigrant, and he goes in the minority

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neighborhoods and he begins to organize a following like a

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community organizer. And when his following gets big enough, he

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gets involved in politics, and he and his followers pressured

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the Jews to accommodate them politically, and so now Mohammad's

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elected a political leader of the city. And then when

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Mohammed's followers get chased out of Mecca for disturbing the peace.

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There's a lot of Muslim immigrants and they come into

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this Jewish city of Medina. Now there's lots of them,

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and Mohammed allows him to rob the caravans headed back

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to Mecca and retaliation for the Meccans chasing them ount.

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It's the victimhood. You're the victim of their intelligence. So

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you can rob the caravans, you can retaliate, and so

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Mohammed personally fought in sixty six battles and raids, killing

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an estimated three thousand people. And within five years of

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Mohammed coming into this Jewish town as an immigrant, there

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is not a Jew left in the town of Medina.

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They were chased out, killed or enslaved. Within fifty years

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of his death, every pre existing culture in Arabia is

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wiped out. Within the next one hundred years, they conquered

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North Africa, which used to be Christian. You know, Saint

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Augustin of Hippo was from Carthage. Today's Tunisia. Egypt used

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to be Christian evangelized by Mark that wrote the Gospel.

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Syria used to be Christian evangelized by Paul. You know,

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Turkey used to be the seven churches of the Book

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of Revelation, and they all get conquered. And so it's

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this idea that there's a fourteen hundred year track record

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where we can see this immigrate, increase, eliminate take place.

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They come into Europe as immigrants and then they end

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up Europeans have maybe one child per family, and they

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wait until they're almost forty to have it. And the

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Muslims come in and they can have four wives and

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put them each in an apartment and then tell them

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to go down to the welfare office and get welfare checks.

476
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Say the husband's not around, and then the man visits

477
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his wives, and the more children they have, the larger

478
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the welfare checks get.

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Exactly living like a.

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Mere sultan with his harem, and it's all paid for

481
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at state of expense.

482
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Exactly.

483
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Talk to somebody in Detroit. They described the same thing

484
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happening right here in America.

485
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I was going to say, that's exactly the same thing.

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Bill I was looking at some stats here how Islam

552
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:54.319
is colonizing non Muslim countries Austria in twenty ten population

553
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:58.359
four hundred and seventy five thousand. It's projected that they'll

554
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.519
grow by sixty eight percent in about four years from

555
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.720
now seven hundred and ninety nine thousand. Let's look at France,

556
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.279
for example, four point seven million in twenty ten. They'll

557
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:13.079
be up to six point eight million in twenty thirty.

558
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.799
That's a forty six percent growth here, this is pretty

559
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.640
In New Zealand forty one thousand now grown to one

560
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:23.640
hundred and one thousand in twenty thirty, one hundred and

561
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.440
forty six percent growth, Ireland forty three to one hundred

562
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.400
and twenty five thousand, hundred ninety one percent growth. In

563
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.240
the United States of America two point five million in

564
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:39.680
twenty ten, projected to be at in twenty thirty six

565
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:45.119
point two million Muslims, growth of one hundred and forty percent.

566
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.240
The United Kingdom that we mentioned earlier started a two

567
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.440
point eight percent two point eight million in twenty ten.

568
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.720
By twenty thirty they'll be at five point five million.

569
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.640
So to your point, everybody else's birthrate in course, we

570
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.680
know in America it's unsustainable. I think last year was

571
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:07.200
one point two per household, one point two per couple

572
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:12.799
and meanwhile, Muslims are procreating at rates of eight to ten. Yeah.

573
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.000
I had someone explained to me that in Islam it's

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a social stigma for a woman to have less than

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five children, and then they're not supposed to leave their

576
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house without a male relative.

577
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Right.

578
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.960
So you go to Germany and there'll be the Muslim

579
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.000
women and they'll always have a little boy with them,

580
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.279
and because they have to have a male relative with

581
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.519
them when they leave the house, right, it's surial law.

582
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:41.559
But you look at New York and eighty they said

583
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:46.240
eighty percent of the women voted for Mandami and now

584
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:50.720
there's immediately calls for Sharia law in New York. And

585
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.480
so these women are like, they don't realize that they

586
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:55.440
better they're going to start having to where the burkas

587
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:56.160
are get raped.

588
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.759
You think, I mean the early thing I'm thinking, Bill,

589
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.799
is that you talking to my wife about this? I said, Uh,

590
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.319
I don't know if I could handle that screaming sound

591
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.920
for the sound to call to prayer five times a day.

592
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.400
When I was in you know, visiting Jerusalem, and you know,

593
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.559
we're at the whaling wall, and all of a sudden

594
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.279
I hear the blast of the call to prayer. It's

595
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.599
not a pleasant sound. Barack Obama said, oh, it's a

596
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.920
beautiful sound. I mean it was like chalk hitting the chalkboard.

597
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.400
My you know, the hair on the back of my

598
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.000
neck was standing up and it was so irritating.

599
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:33.880
Well, well, and that's but that's part of the plan,

600
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.720
right going ham tram McK Michigan, they have a Muslim

601
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.119
city council and they voted to have calls to prayer

602
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.839
five times a day. It makes the non Muslims feel uncomfortable,

603
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.440
so they move out, and that's the goal. Once they

604
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.759
move out, they take over the neighborhood, right right.

605
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:53.480
Well, like I said, it's been a consistent progression, and

606
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.880
here we are and look what's going on. George Barne

607
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.440
had just reported, you know, to your point in terms

608
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of people's respect of sin, Bill, I mean, they're very

609
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:09.559
casual about sin anymore. I mean the percentages of Christians

610
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who even consider sin as a serious offense to God,

611
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:20.039
I mean has become very contemporary, very modernistic and casual. Yeah.

612
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.480
You know, I wrote a book called Believe, and in

613
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.840
there I go through how God is just. He's a

614
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.239
god of laws, laws of planetary emotion, laws of physics,

615
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.480
and he has laws for human behaviors called being just,

616
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.360
which means he has to judge every sin, every sin,

617
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.159
because if he does not judge u sin, by default,

618
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.679
his silence would be giving consent to the sin rule

619
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.960
of tested admissions. So in a wedding ceremony, if you're silent,

620
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.079
you're giving your consent. And so if there are sins

621
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.599
and God's not judging them, he's denying his own just

622
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.199
nature and he cannot deny himself. So his very nature

623
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.800
is he has to judge the sin. Now the lamb,

624
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.000
he sent his son to take the judgment for the sin.

625
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.199
So the lamb is God's way to get around his

626
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.440
own just nature, so he does not change is just nature.

627
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.239
He's just forever, was is and will be just. But

628
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.079
he's loving and that he provides the lamb, his son

629
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.920
to take the judgment for the sin, exactly. So that's

630
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.760
how we can approach this all just God and not

631
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.280
half story about being judged.

632
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:27.039
Because but there are some things built though that God

633
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.480
has built into the system, you know, that are established

634
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.559
and in the design that we are judged when we,

635
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.800
you know, go go outside of the boundaries. For example,

636
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.360
there's the law gravity. Violate the law gravity, you'll find

637
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:43.840
out it's there. And I believe there's other laws that

638
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:48.519
are built in that you violate that you know that

639
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:51.280
you know the blood of the Lamb in a sense,

640
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.480
it's it's there. But even if you if you don't

641
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.119
acknowledge the blood of the Lamb and you don't want

642
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:03.039
to bend your knee and surrender yourself to God's provision

643
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:08.199
for sin, You're still going to realize some judgment in

644
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.280
some consequence for violating God's law. There's some inherent laws

645
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.840
that are built in. And I'm not sure if I'm

646
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.000
saying that right and if you're tracking with me on it,

647
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.199
because I think that, yes, there's some ultimate judgment that

648
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.760
comes in on major issues, and that's happened from time

649
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.519
to time, you know, with the flood and other times

650
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.719
when God stepped in, you know, to bring the children

651
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.840
out of Israel. There was ten incredible judgments on Egypt

652
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.840
and all their gods, and there's been examples of that

653
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:42.960
happen in our history. But there are other I think

654
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:50.480
some other just built in just devices, but just just

655
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:55.039
foundational principles that are in the system that if you

656
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.280
violate it you're going to realize that God is just

657
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.800
and there is judgment for violating those those rules and laws.

658
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.599
Is that fair to say, yeah, you got King David,

659
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:10.000
he sins with Beshiba, has her husband yar Ayah killed.

660
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.639
The prophet Nathan comes to him, says, thou art the man.

661
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:18.559
David repents. God says, I'll forgive you, but you're going

662
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:24.360
to have the repercussions of turmoil in your own household.

663
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.920
And sure enough, he said that you slept with Beshib

664
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.280
and secret. Well, guess what, somebody's going to come after

665
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:31.880
you and they're going to sleep with all your your

666
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:33.719
wives in the open. And that's what happened to Abslom

667
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:37.920
set up a tent. You're right, I had you know, anyway,

668
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.360
you have these within his own household. David had his

669
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.920
oldest son, Amnon, rape a daughter, Tamars murdered by the son.

670
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.159
You know. Evslam tries to overthrow David at and I

671
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:53.199
just tries to overthrow David. So he yes, God forgave him,

672
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:54.800
but he had these repercussions.

673
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.559
So so you know, we we do.

674
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.239
God does forgive us, but sometimes there are things that

675
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.039
that you can't undo. I mean, you can't unkill somebody,

676
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:13.280
right if you can't, and so, so it's a serious thing.

677
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:18.599
But we thank God for the Gospel. But as George

678
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:22.159
Mason said, as nations cannot be rewarded to punish in

679
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.400
the next world, they must be in this so God

680
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.280
can forgive us and save us individually, but still judge

681
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.599
the nation. It's like Jeremiah, the prophet. God spared him,

682
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:39.760
but he did judge Jerusalem. So but you know, if

683
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.239
you're under judgment, it's like magnets, and you turn the

684
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.760
magnet and it instantly goes from attracting the judgment to

685
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.360
repelling the judgment and then attracting God's blessings. So and

686
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.840
Jeremiah says, if I pronounce to a nation judgment and

687
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.800
the nation repents, I won't judge them. But if I

688
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.320
pronounce blessings, then they continue to send. Well, guys, what

689
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:00.880
I'll change.

690
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:01.320
I'll judge.

691
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.920
God loves us. But the little copyat there is he

692
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:09.480
loves us so much he's jealous if he loves something

693
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.079
else more than him. Right, And so we have to

694
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:16.159
realize that here the creator of the universe is jealous

695
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.679
for our thoughts and our attention, and and so that's

696
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.199
why we read his word, and that why we seek him.

697
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.239
We don't do it out of fear, we do it

698
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.519
out of love. But he loves us, and he wants

699
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.280
to love him. He wants to love us back. And

700
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:33.719
of course it's his love first. It's the love of

701
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.440
God that brings mental repentance. While we were yet sinners,

702
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.320
Christ died for us, so he was the initiator and

703
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:40.440
we respond to it.

704
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.559
And anyway, well, Billy, I think it's you know, we're

705
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.960
in a situation where as the country continues to become

706
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:50.440
more and more secular, and as you say, we get

707
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:54.679
the stranger coming into our land and taking over now

708
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.559
the biggest city in our country. This is uh, this

709
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.639
is a a terrible omen. I mean, this should be

710
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something a wake up call, especially for people of faith.

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You know, we have you know, we can be thankful

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for Charlie Kirk and his efforts and his sacrifices martyrdom

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and what it's done for the younger generation. In terms

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of potentially igniting, well, I would say it's beyond potential.

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I mean it's definitely igniting. I say, bonfires of revival.

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We have, you know, young kids coming to Jesus in

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record numbers right now the Bible. I think, what last month,

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It's always been the number one selling book, but increase

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in sales forty seven percent bill So, you know, so

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there is I think some you say, some curiosity. I

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pray that you know, the Holy Spirit, just like in

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Genesis hovers over the void, the darkness, that the Holy

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Spirit is faithfully hovering over the darkness of the young

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people and the confusion of these young people and bringing

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the truth to them in such a way and giving

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them direction. Obviously obviously, I mean they're looking to the

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word of God, and I pray that their young minds

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would be enlightened and they would be able to receive

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what God is telling them right now. And you know

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that this is more than just a you know, a

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fad or just a minor movement, that this is so

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so incredible that we're able to realize a true awakening

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like we've had in previous revivals in our country. Yeah.

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I had somebody explain that they foresaw that this next

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year is going to be one of extremes.

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You're going to have the.

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People on the left be more vile and more vicious

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and more out in the open Satanism right right, and

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then on the other side, you're going to be people

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more excited for Jesus. I mean they've had one hundred

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and sixty thousand requests for Turning Point chapter since Charlie's death.

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I mean they're seeing this revival and it's almost like

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God saying, Okay, we're getting close to the end times.

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I don't know when it's going to be. I sort

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of think it's like a GPS on your phone. We're

746
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going to get to the destination of the Book of Revelation.

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If you repent, it can take the long route. You

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don't repent, it can take the direct route.

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Right.

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And but at God's saying, Okay, we're getting closer to

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the end, and you're a free will creature. I'm not

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force you, but I need you to hurry up and

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make your decision. So I'm going to make it really clear.

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I'm gonna pull back the curtain like the end of

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The Wizard of Oz. You see the dog pulls back

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the garden, and as an old man in a microphone,

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you're not afraid of them anymore. But it's like, okay, God, devil,

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choose right, and some people are going to choose the

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all others. Right, So I go the wedding, you know,

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forsaking of all others and choosing the one. Some people

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are going to choose the all others, right. You're gonna

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want to be liked and friended and followed so much,

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and they're going to be so fearful of somebody posting

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something negative about them on the Internet and blocking and

765
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canceling and unfriending them. And they're like, okay, o, cave,

766
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I'll believe whatever you tell me to believe. I just

767
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want you to like me. And they're like, you know,

768
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it's a moving goalpost. If you draw your self esteem

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from being accepted by people, it's going to continue to

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move like a log in a river headed toward a

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waterfall until it gets to the end and it's finally

772
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going to be okay to be accepted by the group

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you got to accept satan.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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And it's like, and I remember being with Charliekirkane. He says,

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I'm sorry, I don't tolerate satan. Well, you're intolerant. He goes,

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that's right, I don't tolerate.

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We're back with you, Bill Martinez, with Bill Fetterer, the

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American Minute Creator. And it's just like you know, I've

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always used this analogy Bill in talking to our audience

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in the show. Is that bank tellers, for example, how

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they can acknowledge and recognize legitimate money. You know, they

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don't study the counterfeit, They study the legitimate. And I

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think we can learn from that in understanding that we

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must study the legitimate when it comes to the spiritual

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and not the counterfeit and people are Lord, you know

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Deuiji boards some mystic things that detract them from the

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truth of God. And uh, and they will be they

868
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will be the ones who will be fooled, that will

869
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come to Jesus on that day and say, but Lord,

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I you know, I cast you know, demons out in

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your name. I served you in this way and that way.

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And Jesus is gonna say, you know, get away from me.

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I don't even know you. And uh and I I

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mean just a mere thought that God would say that. Uh,

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it just you know it really it scares me enough.

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It scares the hell out of me. I guess I

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just say, if I can put it in those terms.

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Yeah, you know, you said, I know you, and I thought.

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I did a book on the history of Islam. It's

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called What Every American Needs to Know About the Quran,

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a History of Islam in the United States. And there's

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no concept in Islam of knowing Allah. Allah is unknowable.

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He is forever unknowable. Even the next life, you'll never

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meet Allah. He's forever unknowable. But you can transt that

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with Christianity. And Jesus said, and this is eternal life

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that they may know you the only true God and

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Jesus Christ from you have sin.

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Right.

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The idea is that God wants us to have a

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relationship with him exactly. And that's so so you I

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was thinking of what makes a stranger into a friend

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a relationship, right, there's that, you know, David Nathan the

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prophet said, Okay, there's this guy with a thousand sheep,

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and this one guy just has one little sheep and

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he raises it like a daughter and feeds it from

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his table and hugs it. And then the rich guy

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has a visitor and he wants to feed him, so

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he takes the one guy's one little sheep and kills

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it and serves it his food. And David said, who

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is that man? I'll kill him? And of course Nathan says, now,

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arn't the man because you took you know, your eye

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his wife. But why was David so upset? They're all

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just sheep. This man had a relationship with it. It's

904
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the relationship that adds value exactly, right, So what makes

905
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us valuable to God is a relationship?

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Yeah, right.

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He created us for fellowship, He created us for a relationship.

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And if you're not going to bother wanting to know

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God in this life. What makes you think you're going

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to want to know Him in the next life. But

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if you want to have a relationship with him now,

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that relationship makes you valuable to him.

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Exactly. Yeah, well said Bill, And uh, you know, going

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back to what you were, I know what I wanted

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to say is that here. Recently, I was talking to

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some men and they said, well, you know, the Muslims

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say that they worship the same God as Abraham. And

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I said, that's a big lie. And they were kind

919
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of shocked. They go, well, yeah, I mean it's Old Testament,

920
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it's Abraham's God. I said, no, because they don't they

921
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don't believe in Almighty God the way the Christians do,

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the way the Bible says. I said, just go to

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Genesis one, the first verse. He says in the beginning God,

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they don't believe in the Triune God, so they can't

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believe in the same God that Abraham believed in. Because

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Iloheim his Father's son in Holy Spirit. They don't believe

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in Jesus. They don't believe in the Holy Spirit, so

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how could they believe in the same God.

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You know, I in my book, whatever American needs to

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know about the crown. I have a comparison of Jesus

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and Mohammad. Why well, people say, well, you know, yeah,

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Muslims kill people, but Christians kill people. I mean, in

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the Middle Ages, popes had armies. It's like, let's not

934
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compare the followers. Let's compare the Founders. The largest in

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the religion in the world's Christianity thirty three percent. The

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second largest religion in the world is Isla. I'm twenty

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two percent. And let's compare the Founders the two largest

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religions in the world. Jesus never killed anybody. Mohammad killed

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an estimated three thousand people. Jesus never owned slaves. Mohammad

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owned slaves. He was a white Arab and he owned

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black slaves. Jesus never married Mohammed and anywhere from eleven

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to twenty two wives. As youngest Aisha was nine years

943
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old when it was consummated. Jesus never tortured anybody. Mohammad

944
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stretched the chief of Kaibar out on the ground the

945
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fire on his chest because he wouldn't tell where the

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treasure was hidden. Jesus forgave insults right there, crucifying Father,

947
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forgive him well. Mohammad avenged insults. When he comes into Mecca.

948
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.639
A guy had made up poems making fun of Mohammed

949
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.400
had his two slave girls reciting the poems. Mohammad was

950
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.920
insulted by the poem, so he orders a murdered. Jesus

951
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.639
did not allow his disciples to rape anyone Duh Mohammad did.

952
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.400
And there's always had deese that talk about it. None

953
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:33.360
of the apostles were governors or generals. Every one of

954
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:36.519
the caliphs was a governor in a general. Jesus taught

955
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.760
God was our father. In islamis blasphemy to call Allah

956
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.679
your father. Jesus thought were made in the image of God,

957
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:46.760
and Islam Allah has no image. Jesus thought to have

958
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.000
a personal relationship with God, and islamas blast me to

959
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:51.840
have a personal relationship with Allah. Jesus said, he go

960
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.480
to a town, present the gospel. If they don't receive you,

961
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.280
shake the dust and leave. Mohammad, go to a town.

962
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:58.960
If they don't receive you, wage war on the town.

963
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.760
Right the first three centuries of Christianity, there are ten

964
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.039
major persecutions of Christians. They're thrown to the lions, and

965
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.079
they never once let an armed resistance. First three centers

966
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:12.920
of Islam. They conquer from Arabia to Paris. They're stopped

967
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.639
outside of Paris at the Battle of Tours. And so

968
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:20.880
we see that one is voluntary and the other is involuntary.

969
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:23.320
A friend of mine has a ministry to Muslims, and

970
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.880
he says that the one verse that he's found is

971
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:31.239
the most effective in witnessing is Isaiah. I think it's

972
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.599
sixty one, where it says the Spirit of the Lord

973
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.760
is upon me because he is annoyed to me, to

974
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:40.639
preach the Gospel to the poor, to set the captives free,

975
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:44.719
recovery aside to the blind, and to heal the broken hearted.

976
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:48.039
And of course the same verse that Jesus read, Jesus

977
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.960
said that regarding himself, if the Spirit of Lord was Jesus.

978
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.159
But at that line to heal the broken hearted, there's

979
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.960
no concept in all of Islam that Allah wants to

980
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.079
heal your broken heart. Allah could care less about your

981
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.239
broken heart. He wants submission, exactly. And so when you're

982
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.639
when you witness to a Muslims say God, God cares

983
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.159
about your broken He cares about the struggles you're going through.

984
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.480
They have no they'll argue all day long about the

985
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.360
other stuff, but they can't argue on that right because

986
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.559
it bypasses the mind and it goes right to the heart.

987
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:26.639
Wow, that's I'll tell you this is again. God is faithful,

988
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:31.079
and Muslims like Christians, like people who claim to be

989
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:36.119
agnostic and atheists. You know, he created, He created us all,

990
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.760
and he wants us all home with him. Bill in

991
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.599
spite of all this. As you said, he's a forgiving God,

992
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.280
so much so that he sent his son and to

993
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.840
put him through all that he had to go through

994
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.800
the sacrifice that's so unbearable. And you know, I was

995
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.599
looking at the cross the other day. I was in Mass,

996
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:54.960
and I'm looking at the cross and you see it

997
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.199
and it's you know, it's kind of the cleaned up

998
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.320
body of Jesus hanging there from the cross. I'm going,

999
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:04.239
that's such a poor depiction because you think about it

1000
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:06.679
at Calvary, when Jesus was on the cross, he was

1001
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.719
so disfigured. It just had to look just like a

1002
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:14.599
just a carved up piece of humanity, you know, in skin,

1003
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.119
just hanging off of him from all the scourging and

1004
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:22.880
everything that went through. And I just pondered on that,

1005
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.239
and it crushed me Bill to think, you know, okay,

1006
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.119
you know, we look at a cleaned up version of it,

1007
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:32.960
but in reality, all that Jesus went through so that

1008
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.880
we would be back where God always wanted us. And

1009
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.960
that's with him communing, going back to what you said earlier,

1010
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:41.960
having that relationship with the Father.

1011
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:44.880
Yeah, you know, I was thinking of a canaan Abel.

1012
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:48.239
Cain wanted to worship God, but he did it through

1013
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:50.719
his works, and we know it works because God told Adam,

1014
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:52.400
the ground is cursed for your sake, and you'll bring

1015
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.440
forth through by the sweat of your brow. So sweat

1016
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:57.000
is work. So Cain's trying to work his way to evening.

1017
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:01.119
But did God accept Caine's works? No, and Able trusted

1018
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:04.960
in the lamb. And it's this picture that God's on

1019
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.440
one side. I'm on the other side. My sins separate

1020
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:09.639
me from God, and the lamb takes the judgment for

1021
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.880
the sin in my place. And so Abraham offered lambs.

1022
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:16.960
No offered lambs. When he got off the ark right,

1023
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.800
he had two of every animal, but seven pair of

1024
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.840
every clean animal. Moses had every family kill a lamb

1025
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:25.360
with the blood over the door post of the house.

1026
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:27.320
The high priest brought the blood of the Lamb into

1027
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.760
the Holy holies. Solomon had a thousand of them sacrificed

1028
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:32.960
when he dedicated the temple. Finally, John the Baptist points

1029
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.000
at Jesus and says, behold the Lamb of God, who

1030
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.039
take it away the sins of the world. So God's

1031
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:38.519
on one side, we're on the other side. Are sin

1032
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:40.760
separated from God? And the Lamb took the judgment for

1033
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.559
all the sins, and so then we're restored to fellowship

1034
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.559
with God. And it's not based on us being good enough.

1035
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:47.800
It's based on the Lamb being good enough to take

1036
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.079
the judgment in our place.

1037
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:54.280
Right exactly. Yeah, there we are back to focusing on

1038
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:58.320
the legitimate versus the counterfeit, right. And ever since Jesus

1039
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:00.880
came on the scene, even before, they were all the counterfeits,

1040
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.840
and we've been warned about the counterfeits that are there.

1041
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.400
But meanwhile, as you had mentioned earlier, you know, all

1042
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:10.960
this is happening side by side, like you said, And

1043
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.960
I thought it was interesting because here we are and

1044
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.559
you said that somebody said that next year you're going

1045
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:19.360
to have this demarcation of really, what it comes down

1046
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.400
to is good and evil, and you're going to have

1047
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.440
revival taking place on one hand, and then you're going

1048
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:28.880
to have Satanism, an increasing amount of display of satanism

1049
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:35.079
and hedonism and that that's taking place. And I when

1050
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.519
I asked got about this, he just said, wheats and terrors.

1051
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.440
You know, the wheats and terrors are growing at the

1052
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.559
same time, and that's and we need to be careful

1053
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:48.159
that we don't fall into the terrors, that we maintain

1054
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.079
a weak mindset, so to speak.

1055
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.000
Right, Yeah, I talked to somebody and they said that

1056
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.360
they were in some city and they ran into this woman.

1057
00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:59.760
She goes, I'm a Wiccan missionary from London to America

1058
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.639
and we go down to the city park every Saturday night.

1059
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.519
We put hexes on people and it's like, you know

1060
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:10.960
here they are coming here. And so it's one of choices,

1061
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:16.199
and I think God is going to have some people

1062
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.119
right for saking of all others and choosing the one.

1063
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:20.679
Some people are going to choose the all others, but

1064
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.079
I think there's going to be more and more people

1065
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:25.079
choosing the one and more and more.

1066
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:27.000
I just.

1067
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:31.719
I'm here in Fort Worth, Texas, uh speaking at a

1068
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:35.159
college and a young man I just visited with said

1069
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:39.159
he's from a missionary family in Indonesia, and he says,

1070
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:42.480
Muslims are coming to Christ. He says in Iran. He says,

1071
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:46.000
there's thousands and thousands of them, and they're having dreams

1072
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:51.079
about Jesus. And so I think God is pushing the

1073
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.679
world to a decision making moment, right, and this is

1074
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.519
our turn to say, you know, I mean, think of it.

1075
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.199
People say, well, God knows my heart. Well, yes, he

1076
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.320
knew Abraham's heart, but he still wanted to see Abraham

1077
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:04.400
do something, take his son out to the top of

1078
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.079
Mount Mariah. And it's like, how would that play out

1079
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.760
with your wife? I mean, imagine a guy watching football

1080
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:12.079
and you say, when was the last time you told

1081
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:13.960
your wife your lover? He's like, I can't remember, but

1082
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.800
she knows my heart. It's like, okay, one was the

1083
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.000
last time you did anything to show your wife your lover?

1084
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.079
He's like, I can't remember, but she knows my heart.

1085
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.280
It's like, dude, we need to have a little marriage counseling.

1086
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:26.280
He was like, God knowes my heart. Yes he does.

1087
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:28.519
He knows it really well, and he wants to hear

1088
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.000
some words out of your mouth and actions, so that

1089
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:35.519
you show on the outside, in this physical world, through

1090
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.079
your words and actions, what you really really believe on

1091
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:41.280
the inside. Exactly, there's no words and actions. Maybe there's

1092
00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:43.119
no real belief on the inside.

1093
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:47.039
Exactly. Well, Bill Fetter or the American Minute, said creator,

1094
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:49.800
how can people subscribe to the American Minute and be

1095
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:51.480
in touch with you? Oh?

1096
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:55.559
Thank you, it's American Minute dot com. Americanminute dot com.

1097
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:57.960
Bill Fetter, thank you so much for being with us.

1098
00:59:57.960 --> 00:59:59.119
Take care, God bless my friend.

1099
00:59:59.360 --> 00:59:59.880
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1120
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:13.239
Welcome back, Bill Martinez here with you. Good to have

1121
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.679
you with us. Also great to have Craig Rucker from

1122
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.440
a seed Fact founder and president. Hey, mister Craig, how

1123
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:18.800
are we doing.

1124
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:23.719
I'm doing okay, Just trying to take in what happened

1125
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.159
last night during the elections.

1126
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.559
Yeah, it wasn't a bad dream. It was real. I

1127
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:32.679
know a lot of Yeah, a lot of people are

1128
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.639
waking up and going did I did I really experience this?

1129
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:38.920
Or was this a bad dream? Maybe it's gonna I'm

1130
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.000
gonna wake up and it's all gonna be gone. No, Gracie,

1131
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:46.480
it did happen, and uh, and now we got to

1132
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:46.880
deal with it.

1133
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:51.039
Right, we do. I think that many of us who

1134
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:55.960
were following this were not surprised to see the Democrats

1135
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.800
pull it out, both of New Jersey and Virginia and

1136
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.840
even New York City. I think what kind of surprised

1137
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:05.400
many of us was the margin of victory. We had

1138
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.440
some polling data that was shortly before this that showed,

1139
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:14.039
especially New Jersey race with Citrelli and you know, being

1140
01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:18.280
much closer to Cheryl wound up being over a dozen

1141
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:20.840
points as I saw it. Anyway, by the end of

1142
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.360
the day, when it should have been within almost the

1143
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:27.440
margin of error. And of course, even Winsome Seers losing

1144
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:31.800
to span Berger in Virginia that was by lopside of

1145
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:35.960
fifteen points or more. So you're looking at very significant

1146
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.599
victories for the Democratic Party, and I think that this,

1147
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:42.519
you know, bodes well for them approaching the midterms next

1148
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.559
year and should be of concern to Republicans.

1149
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:50.159
Well, it should, because especially when you had people complaining

1150
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:54.360
and saying these issues were very important. These were things

1151
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.360
that you know, whether you're talking about Virginia that Winsome

1152
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:03.400
Seers was addressing. She was the next phase of Youngkin's administration,

1153
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:08.880
and I mean, you know, she has experience in doing it.

1154
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.440
And it was like that didn't really matter. What seemed

1155
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:14.760
to matter in whether it was Virginia or in New Jersey,

1156
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.840
and certainly in New York was you know, if you

1157
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.039
hated Trump somehow that gave you like a five to

1158
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.599
ten point advantage. And even though Trump's name was not

1159
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:28.400
on the ballot, certainly Trump's name was involved in all

1160
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:31.920
these campaigns. And how you know, whether it was Mikey,

1161
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:35.519
Cheryl or Spamberger. Oh, we're gonna take it. We're gonna

1162
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.800
take it to the man. You know, We're gonna, you know,

1163
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:41.519
go after Trump and and you know, and forget about

1164
01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:43.760
the problems that you have right now in terms of

1165
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:47.480
affordability and all these other issues, high taxes and you know,

1166
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:51.239
cost of living. These were all the results of the

1167
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.679
Democrats who created this mess. Trump's been trying to clean

1168
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.119
it up. He's only been in office for ten months.

1169
01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:00.159
But I think I think also Craig the guvern and

1170
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:04.719
shut down, I think that the Republicans underestimated how much

1171
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:07.880
impact that they would have. They they were really convinced

1172
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:11.000
and have been convinced that oh, this is a Schumer shutdown.

1173
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:13.760
Everybody's going to put it on the Democrats once, once

1174
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:15.639
and forever. You know, it's not going to be the

1175
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:19.639
Republican's fault. Well, guess what, it didn't happen that way.

1176
01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:23.000
The people were blaming, you know, the Republicans for not

1177
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:27.480
coming to the problem. And I think that, uh, you know, Dune,

1178
01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:29.960
and I've been saying this, I think, Dune, I know,

1179
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.280
it's a tough deal to forego the filibuster because you're

1180
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talking about mutual destruction here, you know, going with a

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nuclear option. I get that, but you're being measured based

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on what you're doing and what you're not doing. Well,

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the Democrats were more than happy to, uh, you know,

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go on the play the field of play and not

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have an opponent.

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You're exactly right, as I said the key as I

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think there's a few things to do this. Of course,

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a big portion and this is in Virginia, of people

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that voted for against Winsome Seers and Forrest Bamberger were

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from the northern Virginia area counties like Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax,

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Loudon County. These are just stock full of government workers.

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So they are the ones whose propensity. By the way,

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if you look in the state. It still looks if

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you were to look at a map, you would think

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the election went the other way, but county by county,

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But those have the lion's share of people in them

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and went heavily, like, you know, almost ninety ten percent.

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I know, it was amazing, Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, So I think that that influenced. Another thing people

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need to keep in mind. Neither of the states, either

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New Jersey or Virginia, and of course not New York City,

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are ones that Trump won or did very well in.

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These are blue states more or less. I mean, they

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may call them purple because occasionally you can get Glenn

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Youngkin who won last time and kind of and again

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he won by the skin of his teeth. If people

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look at that, they are capable of winning these states.

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But it doesn't happen very often. They're pretty reliably blue states.

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So I think that that needs to be kept in mind.

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I think also people need to keep in mind it's

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very common that the party that wins the election loses

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the off year elections. That goes back historically for a

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long time. That's not to give the Republics a whole

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great deal of comfort because again, these are larger than

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normal margins that you normally see. Counterpoint, after Biden won

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the election in Virginia, Glenn Youngkin comes in with win

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some Seers and mires and narrowly win a fairly blue

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state or a late blue state, late Virginia. But this

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is a thumping, There's no way around it. It could

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be linked to the government shutdown. I think it's even

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linked more strongly to the Trump election last year. I

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think it's just a blacklash and they were highly motivated.

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You saw the early voting too. I was looking at

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some of the results of this particular election, and in

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both states, the early voting was extremely weighted in the

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side of the Democrats. I mean you're talking like eighty

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twenty or something of that sort in terms of the

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early voting. So Republicans did not do a good job.

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They were not energized, and they were also way outspent.

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You know, the.

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Spamburger had a budget. I don't know if it was two, three,

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four times bigger, but if you live down here, all

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you saw were her commercials. You rarely saw Win some

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Seers commercial and when you did see a Spamburger commercial.

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I think the Democrats have learned. Spamberger touted not the

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anti Trump stuff as much. What she really touted was

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that she was a former c I A person, and

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she was uh you know, for the police and for

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law and order, and she had people that came out

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and spoke about her uh you know background as a

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law enforcement person. And so she really kind of ran

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almost as a Republican if you were just if you

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weren't to know and put the party affiliation on there,

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you would see her talking about her family and thing.

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Nothing quack a moldy, you know, nothing that deals with DEI,

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nothing that deals with some of the uh you know,

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base issues that you would normally see Democrats go. She

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ran as a decided moderate right.

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And she stayed away from the Jay Jones controversy, and

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she wasn't gonna she wasn't going to push him out,

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just saying, hey, look at he apologized. Leave it at that.

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And I guess the voters were okay with that.

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Well, I don't know how many even knew about it. Yes,

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those on the conservative side who watched for news and that,

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but the media did any remarkable job of not making

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that actually into an issue. I think just nobody hardly

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was aware of it. Now his race was a little closer.

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I think it was with it six points so, and

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I've heard about it that it made an impact. But

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there's a history in Virginia. I happened to live in

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Virginia that I haven't remembered very many times when the

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one at the top of the ticket doesn't carry the

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ones at the bottom of the ticket with it. That's

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that's fairly common here. I as I say, it can

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happen on occasion, but generally not.

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But you're right though, there was a big difference though,

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between Spamberger's vote count and Jay Jones. I think, you know,

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there was lots of space there, so there were probably

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people that didn't that didn't even bother to go down

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and even vote for him. But yet there were enough

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Democrats who did that brought him across the line, which

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was kind of surprising because I think Majaris is as

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as an attorney general. I thought he did he did

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a great job, you know, but well.

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And I saw early polling too, which is interesting another

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couple dynamics. Looking at Virginia for a second, you had

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decided mail vote actually break for Winsome, not by much

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by like fifty three forty seven, but you had a

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huge gap with.

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The women vote.

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Oh my gosh, that's almost seventy thirty, you know, which

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is much larger than normal. So you know, the male

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vote actually should have been larger for a Republican The

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female vote was really disproportionate, and it was mostly a

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minority women that voted that way. The winsom Seers herself

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is a Black American. She herself only got something like

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eight percent of the black vote. Of the black vote

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at Virginia went to Spamberger.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with Craig Rocker,

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the president founder of Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. Well,

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look at I know, the wounds are being licked and

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we'll see what happens going forth and what kind of

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impact this will have on the midterm elections coming up

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next year. But meanwhile, what does this have in terms

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of an effect that we'll have on climate and the

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EI and these other progressive you know, policies that you know,

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Trump has been you know vacating. Are we going to

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see some sort of resurgence now because of this?

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I think so, because of the fact that they did

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not really run principally on those issues, either of the candidates,

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but they did make their positions known that they kind

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of tout what Biden did in the past, and many

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Democrats have that we have a climate emergency and the

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state needs to kind of do its part to take,

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you know, take aim at this big big issue in

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both states is offshore wind. Virginia is close to completing.

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nation's largest. It ran into some hiccups in recent weeks

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where they're gonna be they're delayed, but it's still on

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least get its first electricity. Then I think that the

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Trump administration was hesitant to do much about it before

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the election and kind of weighing what would happen here.

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is that Trump would be a little bit more agreeable

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to taking on and maybe stopping that project because it's

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going to cost Virginians terribly and we know that the

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incoming administration is going to obviously push for to address

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those offshore wind projects have been stopped, but not that

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Phil Murphy, the former governor, wasn't pushing them. But we

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could definitely say that Cheryl Mickey Cheryl will be pushing

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those again and be looking to try and as all

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of them up and down the East Coast for the

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most part, that our Democratic mayors like Hochel and the

1415
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:50.520
like are pushing them, and so we're likely to see

1416
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:54.920
some standoffs there as well. So those are two biggies there.

1417
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:57.880
Of course, also part of Reggie the Regional greenhouse Gas

1418
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:03.560
Initiate young and pulled Virginia out of that, my guess.

1419
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.680
And this is where a bunch of states get together

1420
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:09.159
and try to curb their greenhouse gases by putting in

1421
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:13.000
more renewable energy, forcing mandates on electric vehicles and things

1422
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:15.560
of that sort. But they're trying to keep their emissions down,

1423
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:20.199
principally in the electricity sector. It's kind of creating a

1424
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.520
Paris Accord of sort of an agreement among a few

1425
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.000
states that they'll do their part to kind of reach

1426
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.319
the Paris Accord. Goals even if the federal government.

1427
01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:29.680
Doesn't sign on.

1428
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.239
Well, Virginia pulled out, I suspect they'll be a move

1429
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:37.159
to try to put Virginia back in and New Jersey

1430
01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:39.039
of course they wanted to get out of this, but

1431
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:41.920
I have a feeling there, you know, that's going back

1432
01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:42.560
the wrong way.

1433
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.000
So well, it's kind of amazing that you would want

1434
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.000
to do something on a state level when the federal

1435
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:50.439
level pulled out of the Paris Accords and we're exceeding

1436
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:56.520
the parameters or you know, the levels that were. You know,

1437
01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:00.760
we're mandated by the Paris Accord, right, I mean we've out, yes,

1438
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:03.319
So why would the states get involved in that way?

1439
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:07.680
You know, I guess just to you know, I guess

1440
01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:09.239
create problems that aren't there.

1441
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:15.079
Well, they're going to unfortunately, I think, as has been

1442
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:19.000
the case with California and all the Blue states that

1443
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:22.000
do crazy stuff like go into these things, they go

1444
01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:23.800
to the Red states to bail them out, because of

1445
01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:28.520
course they won't have enough electricity to you know, be

1446
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.800
able to provide for New Jersey people or even Virginia people.

1447
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:34.840
If they go forward with these massive projects, they're going

1448
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:37.720
to have to get it from West Virginia, Pennsylvania, other

1449
01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:41.159
states that have not done it, and those states are

1450
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.399
willing to provide it for a certain price. And it's

1451
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:47.840
sad because I think they're not paying the consequences of

1452
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:52.159
having made stupid decisions. Like you know, some places do

1453
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.199
turn about face, like you have Germany, for example, when

1454
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:58.239
the Russians off the gas, they had to go the

1455
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:02.039
other way, as did France and a number of them.

1456
01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:04.479
But you know, so long as these blue states are

1457
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:06.680
being bailed out by the Red states when they mess

1458
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:08.359
up on electricity, No.

1459
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:09.840
They don't feel that, they don't feel the pain, so

1460
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.840
that's not necessary for them. Let's talk about the summit

1461
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:15.720
in Brazil. You're also saying that Donald Trump should boycott

1462
01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:18.079
the UN Climate Conference in Brazil.

1463
01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:21.600
Right, we are, We're we're going. I'm actually leaving just

1464
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:23.359
in a couple of days here and I'll be down

1465
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:26.399
at the COP thirty. These are conference of the Parties

1466
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:28.439
that are held every year going back to the nineties.

1467
01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:30.560
I've been to twenty seven of them. Kind of get

1468
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.279
my age away there. And this one is set to

1469
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:35.960
take place in the middle of the jungle in a

1470
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:40.640
little town called Belem. And of course the U didn't

1471
01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:43.000
think this through very well because this is a town

1472
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.319
that is very small and they're going to have like

1473
01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:48.600
fifty to seventy thousand delegates from around the world there

1474
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.520
for this major conference. Of course, they didn't have enough

1475
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:54.119
hotel space. They couldn't get them there, so they're bringing

1476
01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:57.199
in boats. They're also chopping down the rainforest to build

1477
01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:59.680
a big road to this place, and they're chopping down

1478
01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:01.920
the rain for us to make more hotel room. This

1479
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:05.479
for an environmental conference, So that makes sense, right. Yeah,

1480
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:09.880
So anyway, that's going to take place starting next week,

1481
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.880
and on the table, of course, it's going to be

1482
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:16.319
the fact that the US has pulled out. We're not

1483
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:20.159
sending a delegation. They want more money, as that's normal

1484
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:23.800
for UN conference. They put in a couple of creative

1485
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:27.960
ways to get it. One, of course, the Trump administration

1486
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:29.840
just pulled out of They wanted to put a carbon

1487
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:34.279
tax on all international shipping, and this would have, you know,

1488
01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:37.239
basically been a backhanded tax that would create a little

1489
01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:40.439
slush fund for the UN. Trump put the Kebash on

1490
01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:43.439
that they voted on it. This they initially approved it.

1491
01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:46.159
A bunch of nations did in April of this year.

1492
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:50.399
Trump then got involved, got our Secretary of State there,

1493
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:55.279
Marco Rubio, to oppose it, threatened tariffs against any country

1494
01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:57.319
that signed on to this carbon tax, and all of

1495
01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:01.079
a sudden you find a number of Middle Eastern country's backpack.

1496
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:03.760
You had the Caribbean Nations backpack, and it didn't pass.

1497
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:07.319
They're going to table it till next year. They're also

1498
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:09.880
doing the same with airlines. So these are a couple

1499
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:12.319
of the things that the UN has up at sleeves,

1500
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:14.399
but we'll be there to hopefully shine the light of

1501
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:14.920
truth on it.

1502
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:17.319
You don't think they'll want to charge some sort of

1503
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:21.680
tax for blowing out drug running boats out of the water,

1504
01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:22.000
do you.

1505
01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:26.680
I'm not sure they're up for that particular one. There

1506
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.479
will be also a protest, a couple of them. They

1507
01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:31.960
got these peda crowd there is going to have some

1508
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:37.000
famous Brazilian actress apparently take her clothes off and get

1509
01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:40.159
covered with fake meat to talk about how meat is

1510
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.159
bad and we need to stop eating it. So that's

1511
01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:46.399
one thing. They have a major people's march in the

1512
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:49.560
city of Blm, which is a bunch of indigenous peoples

1513
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:53.119
and others calling attention to environmental racism that will take

1514
01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:57.479
place the Saturday after this coming one. So there'll be

1515
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:01.880
some crazy antics as well as the legitimate policy stuff

1516
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:03.159
being discussed.

1517
01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:08.319
Right exactly, well, covered up in meat, covered up in meat.

1518
01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:11.560
Yeah yeah, yeah, yea from Janes, from Janes, you know,

1519
01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:14.279
to meat. Now this is what has come down to, right.

1520
01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:17.800
Well, we'll be there, we'll cover the naked truth.

1521
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:21.920
On this particular view exactly. Well, and you know, going

1522
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:25.239
back to what you said earlier in terms of you know,

1523
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:28.760
you've got the U N and you know, their promotion

1524
01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:32.479
of this climate crisis that everybody looks around and go,

1525
01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:35.279
what crisis, but you know it doesn't stop them from

1526
01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:37.880
using the words climate crisis, right.

1527
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:41.640
Oh yeah, exactly. In fact, right prior to this whole conference,

1528
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:45.119
a big development occurred when, of all people, Bill Gates,

1529
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:49.680
who's been a major benefit right everything crazy and climate related,

1530
01:23:50.239 --> 01:23:54.239
made an admission recently that the climate crisis is not

1531
01:23:54.359 --> 01:23:57.560
going to end humanity, and we know, basically admitted to

1532
01:23:57.680 --> 01:23:59.880
the fact that they've been embellishing this for a long

1533
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:02.359
time and that there he went so far say, there's

1534
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.760
other issues like world poverty, clean water, you know, health

1535
01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:10.319
issues and stuff that merit more attention than this. Uh,

1536
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:14.039
he's still, in his admission said it's a major crisis,

1537
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:17.159
so he hasn't come all the way out. But that little,

1538
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.479
you know, movement on his part is actually telling because

1539
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:23.079
this is a guy who tried to get he got

1540
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:25.319
into the fake meat industry and wanted us all to

1541
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.199
kind of ditch our rits. Yeah, exactly buying his fake

1542
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:31.680
meat to solve the climate crisis. And he did this

1543
01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:34.680
right before the CLOP conference. So he's getting some grief

1544
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:37.560
for that. But it's baby steps, but we kind of applauded.

1545
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:40.600
So hopefully we'll see more of this coming from the

1546
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:43.680
likes of people like Bezos and you know some of

1547
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:47.199
the other ones who have been out there talking on

1548
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.119
climate in an extremist way.

1549
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:52.560
Well, Al Gore and Greta Thunberg looking for maybe a

1550
01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:56.640
new job or something or a new uh, a new

1551
01:24:56.760 --> 01:24:58.199
crisis to champion.

1552
01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:02.119
Yeah, I mean they're kind Yesterday's news, I think it's

1553
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:04.680
been a push at the UND to try to get

1554
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:07.920
new Spokesmanred of course, move down to other things. She's

1555
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:12.119
in the Palestinian cause, and I haven't heard word if

1556
01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:15.000
she's going to be there. I do think there will

1557
01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:19.159
be a couple other spokesmen that are coming down there.

1558
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:22.279
I'm not sure if King Charles is coming or not,

1559
01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:24.920
but somebody like him I think from England is coming.

1560
01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:33.800
And uh, you know, and Andrew's available, yes without title exactly, yeah, exactly.

1561
01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:36.000
It's been a rough, rough couple of weeks for Andrew.

1562
01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:43.279
So but anyway, So any anything else that you're expecting, Well.

1563
01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:45.520
I do think that this will be the big crowning

1564
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:49.560
thing for the climate issue. I do think with these

1565
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:51.840
states moving this direction, I think it's going to make

1566
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:56.079
it more difficult to try and roll back some of

1567
01:25:56.159 --> 01:25:59.880
the crazy climate and energy stuff with you know that

1568
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.319
it's done in the legislature because between the government shutdown

1569
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:05.439
and this development, now, I got to feel that the

1570
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:08.359
Democrats are feeling their oats and they're going to dig

1571
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.479
their heels in and they're chomping their lips for next

1572
01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:17.079
next ball. But people may not remember. The Republicans similarly,

1573
01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:22.880
felt pretty bold after some major gains in the elections

1574
01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:25.760
four years ago in New Jersey and in Virginia when

1575
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:29.520
it went our way, especially in Virginia, and it didn't

1576
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:32.760
really materialize as big as we thought in the midterm.

1577
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:34.560
So there's always that possibility.

1578
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:35.279
Things change.

1579
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:37.840
It's a very rapid You win some, you lose some.

1580
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:40.520
I would encourage people not to get too discouraged by

1581
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:43.920
the election results. I've been around through enough of them

1582
01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:46.920
to see them come and go, and I think it

1583
01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:49.399
is a wake up call. You'd be very foolish not to,

1584
01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:52.399
you know, take note of it. But I don't think

1585
01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:56.079
it's you know, at the end of the each election

1586
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:57.279
is kind of its own.

1587
01:26:57.199 --> 01:26:59.800
Thing, right, without a doubt, and I think the GOP

1588
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:04.119
will probably respond put pressure again on voter ID and

1589
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:09.479
some other measures that will secure our the voting process. Well, hey,

1590
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:13.520
the good news though at least both states knew how

1591
01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:16.399
to count the votes. They were done before midnight, they

1592
01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:17.039
had the votes in.

1593
01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:24.359
Yeah, that's remarkable. It can be done, and I do

1594
01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:27.159
I will say that while sometimes I do think in

1595
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:30.760
these very particularly close elections there's a reason to be

1596
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:33.920
concerned when they're this far apart, I'm not entirely sure

1597
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:34.960
of what it made a difference.

1598
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:38.199
Now, I'm with you on it. Craig Recker at President,

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Founder Committee for Constructive Tomorrow. Thank you, Craig, be well,

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Hey, good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here along with the former nfl QB author

1666
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:29.399
and speaker, the one and only Jeff Camp. Hey, Jeff,

1667
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:30.079
how we doing, buddy.

1668
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:34.079
I'm good Bill. I'm back in Washington, d C.

1669
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:36.680
Where I grew up, about to visit my mom and

1670
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:40.319
then do some speaking to Fellowship of Christian Athletes and

1671
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:42.520
some men's events in Virginia.

1672
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:45.479
Well, your voice is rubbed off on me, so I'm

1673
01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:50.199
sounding you know, other similar intonation. But it's a result

1674
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:52.319
of trying to deal with a little bit of a

1675
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:54.800
bug that's, you know, hanging there in my throat.

1676
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:57.680
So I'm not sorry. I'm sorry, I don't feel well.

1677
01:31:58.039 --> 01:32:00.239
I'm not actually I feel fine. I'm just I just

1678
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:01.439
want you to know I'm not mocking you.

1679
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.680
Oh good. I take it as flattery that you're trying

1680
01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:05.880
to imitate my rasp.

1681
01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.600
Well, it's rather unique yours and your father. Anytime people

1682
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:12.159
hear your voice, they go, oh my god, he sounds

1683
01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:14.760
just like his dad. I go, yeah, he sure does.

1684
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:17.359
But anyway, look at lots of things to catch up

1685
01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:20.279
on I know that you've had a great conversation with

1686
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:23.600
your level five friendships, and I think it's going to

1687
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:26.800
lead into something else that I want to address that

1688
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:29.399
I think that it's appropriate, So tell our audience you

1689
01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:31.439
know what's going on, you know with your group.

1690
01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:38.880
Well, I talk every week to my closest core friends,

1691
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:43.119
and we've been so consistent and clarified what our purpose

1692
01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:48.399
is and kind of the ground rules confidentiality, safety, honesty,

1693
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:50.479
that we want to process life together, that we talk

1694
01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:53.319
about what's most important. So one of my friends asked me,

1695
01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:56.640
what's most important for you, Jeff to talk about? And

1696
01:32:56.720 --> 01:32:58.520
I said, I don't have a lot of time because

1697
01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:02.239
I got to run to another appointment that my wife

1698
01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:04.359
asked me to go to. But I think the most

1699
01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:09.199
important thing is I needed not measure how my work

1700
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:14.680
is doing. I need to not measure how books are selling,

1701
01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:19.960
how people are signing up for resources, how many people

1702
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:21.760
show up at a speech.

1703
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:26.000
I guess that would apply to I know we need.

1704
01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:28.039
Enough money to pay the bills and get by, but

1705
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:32.640
it would apply to I don't want to measure how

1706
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:36.600
I'm doing making money or how I'm doing you know,

1707
01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:41.239
in a particular job. I obviously want to do my

1708
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:43.800
best to serve God and be a good steward, but

1709
01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:47.640
I want to leave the results and the outcomes up

1710
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.000
to Him. And I think I talked to them about

1711
01:33:50.039 --> 01:33:53.800
that because I know that I could have a tendency

1712
01:33:54.479 --> 01:33:57.079
as I launch a new resource Core three coaching, and

1713
01:33:57.159 --> 01:34:00.399
I wanted to reach tons of young men and media

1714
01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:03.359
men and older men that I could have too much

1715
01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:07.279
intensity around outcomes rather than just do a good job.

1716
01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:11.079
So by saying that out loud, it almost diffused the

1717
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:13.399
power of it for me temporarily. And I'm saying it

1718
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:16.079
again to you. I just want to be faithful to God,

1719
01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:19.279
do what I do with you know, the best effort

1720
01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:21.359
and excellence I can, but leave it up to the

1721
01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:25.359
Lord and not stress over measuring and outcomes. And I

1722
01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:28.279
think that would help any of us in a society

1723
01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.720
that's so comparison and measurement oriented.

1724
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:35.279
Well, yeah, I mean your life has been in that.

1725
01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:39.119
It's been very competitive. Yeah, you know, throughout your whole life.

1726
01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:41.399
So how do you let that go? But you know,

1727
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:43.800
so it's there for a certain reason. It's part of

1728
01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:46.960
the formula. And as I'm hearing you talk again, it

1729
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.359
reminds us of that verse we talked about a couple

1730
01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:52.720
of weeks ago Philippians three thirteen. Brothers, I do not

1731
01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:55.199
consider that I've made it my own. But one thing

1732
01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:58.760
I do forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to

1733
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:02.000
what lies ahead, I press on toward the gold for

1734
01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:05.000
the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

1735
01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:08.119
You know that's as men of faith, that's what we

1736
01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:11.960
hope for. Is we we're leaning into that higher calling

1737
01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:15.000
that God has for us. And it's tough because you've

1738
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:19.199
got the pool of the earthly things, and you know,

1739
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:21.279
you and I specifically talked about it, and that is

1740
01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:23.800
that you know, our answers aren't here on earth, are

1741
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:25.720
in heaven. And that's what we have to do. We

1742
01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:29.600
have to elevate ourselves and our experience or whatever we're

1743
01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:32.239
dealing with, you bring it to God in heaven. That's

1744
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:34.800
where the answer lie, not not at the at the

1745
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:36.920
ground floor level. Yes, we you know, we want to

1746
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:39.560
talk with other people and say, hey, am I having

1747
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:41.840
these commerce like you're doing with your with your group.

1748
01:35:42.199 --> 01:35:46.319
You know that that's critical. But ultimately, I mean, and

1749
01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:48.760
I think you know the goal is to really look

1750
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:50.279
to God as much as possible.

1751
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:54.720
Yes, I think by talking to my friends openly, kind

1752
01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:56.880
of in light, in the light, so to speak. Right,

1753
01:35:57.279 --> 01:35:59.159
I was making sure that I was talking to God

1754
01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:01.920
about this because there's some things that we kind of

1755
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:04.399
talked to God a little bit about, but we're not

1756
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:08.960
transparent and open with other people, so we're maybe not

1757
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.279
as completely committed to what we're talking to God about.

1758
01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:16.560
And I, you know, you said, you got to realize

1759
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:21.039
that results and measurement and outcomes do end up having

1760
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:22.000
an impact in life.

1761
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:23.880
Yes, I played pro football.

1762
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:27.359
Too many interceptions and you'll be benched lots of touchdowns

1763
01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.680
and you'll be rewarded. You know, your team wins, you

1764
01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:33.079
go to the playoffs, they lose.

1765
01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:33.720
You don't.

1766
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:37.800
My dad won an election and got to be in office.

1767
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.359
He lost an election for vice president, and he wasn't

1768
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.039
in office. He couldn't, you know, put his ideas into

1769
01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:45.800
practice from that office.

1770
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:47.800
But the ideas didn't die.

1771
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:52.319
The identity of my dad as God's man didn't go

1772
01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:55.720
away when I when I couldn't play football anymore, I

1773
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:58.720
didn't lose my identity because my results and my outcomes

1774
01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.159
and my measurements were the same as they used to be.

1775
01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:03.640
But I think this ties into what you were worried

1776
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:07.640
about or concerned about. Young men and all men today

1777
01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:10.680
are facing a lot of negative pressure.

1778
01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:14.560
Who what's my value? Do I count? How do I

1779
01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:18.079
measure up? Am I popular? Am I not? What's my

1780
01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:21.960
purpose and meaning in life? And if you don't know

1781
01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:23.800
God and that he.

1782
01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:26.800
Loves you like crazy and he made you for a purpose,

1783
01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:30.239
And you don't need to be famous or rich, or

1784
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:34.199
first string or have some impressive job that gets a

1785
01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:36.680
lot of money, or be popular with all the people.

1786
01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:39.680
You don't have to be those things to be who

1787
01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:41.399
you were meant to be and to be of value.

1788
01:37:42.039 --> 01:37:44.840
But you really need to know what God thinks of you,

1789
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:49.439
and then that sets you free to be faithful, do

1790
01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:52.439
the right thing, be responsible, and be.

1791
01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:55.079
Patient to grow your life. A lot of people are impatient.

1792
01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:57.840
They want success in popularity right away, and that's not

1793
01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:00.239
the way it works there.

1794
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:02.199
You know, social media is a bit of a scam.

1795
01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:06.039
You know, you start chasing clicks and you start gauging

1796
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:09.239
your popularity or your influence based on what you're seeing

1797
01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:12.760
in social media. But it's all a ruse. It's a distraction,

1798
01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:15.199
and you know you talk about the pressure that boys

1799
01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:18.680
and men are under. Jeff, this was shocking to see

1800
01:38:18.800 --> 01:38:23.079
that boys and men die by suicide at a significantly

1801
01:38:23.239 --> 01:38:26.439
higher rate than girls women four times more as a

1802
01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:29.239
matter of fact, I mean, so the pressure that you're

1803
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:33.199
talking about, the loss of identity and the despair that

1804
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:38.439
is brought to you by the Earth's you know, measurements. Yes,

1805
01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:40.439
that's that's what it's producing.

1806
01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.159
Well, this past week, the NFL, at all of its games,

1807
01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:48.079
had a moment of silence for the Dallas Cowboy player

1808
01:38:48.119 --> 01:38:51.039
who's going to touchdown the weekend before the defensive player.

1809
01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:54.479
He was in the limelight, but he'd been dealing with

1810
01:38:54.920 --> 01:39:00.359
emotional mental health issues. And that's a great exile that

1811
01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:03.520
being validated in football and having success, you know, being

1812
01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:08.000
an NFL professional football player wasn't enough to satisfy that

1813
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:13.439
man's soul and he needed help. And at the end

1814
01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:16.359
of the day, it goes back to do you know

1815
01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:20.239
who you are in God's eyes? And many times did

1816
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:23.159
our father and mother do a good job of loving

1817
01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:27.119
us unconditionally and showing us our value that it's not

1818
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:31.279
wrapped up in our grades or our sports, our job,

1819
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:34.880
or our looks right and our popularity. Like you said,

1820
01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:38.079
non social media really is a counterfeit. It's leading you

1821
01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:40.640
to try a counterfeit life that leaves you empty at

1822
01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:42.800
the end of the day. It's about as nutritious as

1823
01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:43.560
cotton candy.

1824
01:39:44.039 --> 01:39:47.800
Yeah, exactly. Well, And the thing is is that as

1825
01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:50.399
you say, you know you and I often say, you

1826
01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:53.159
know who you are and who you are, and you've

1827
01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:56.720
got to understand that your relationship with God is a

1828
01:39:56.800 --> 01:39:59.920
personal relationship that's between you and God. You know, our parents,

1829
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:02.119
you know, there were human beings just like the rest

1830
01:40:02.159 --> 01:40:04.720
of us. You know, maybe sometimes they got it right,

1831
01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:09.239
maybe not so on other hands, But our god father,

1832
01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:12.880
God always gets it right. Yes, And that's who we

1833
01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:17.279
can lean into and whatever it is that maybe lacking

1834
01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:21.319
God is loaded with grace and mercy, and he can

1835
01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:25.279
more than make up for that difference. But it requires

1836
01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.119
you to want a relationship with him and to come

1837
01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:31.960
to him. He says, he's there with open arms, just

1838
01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:36.319
waiting for you to come and bring your burdens to him, right, Jeff.

1839
01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:40.000
All right, And maybe I'll wrap up with this, yes,

1840
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:42.680
because I was on the plane looking over the notes

1841
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:45.880
that I'll share at the couple speeches to men's groups,

1842
01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:48.760
and I just close my eyes and I said, God,

1843
01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:52.159
what do you want to say to them? What do

1844
01:40:52.239 --> 01:40:56.079
you want to say to these men? And I believe

1845
01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:58.079
you'd say the same thing to any women listening in

1846
01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:00.920
your audience. It was so simple. I wrote it in

1847
01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:04.319
my phone, but it's in my heart. Number One, God

1848
01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:07.640
wants people to hear from them from him that he

1849
01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:12.880
loves them so so much more than they realize. And secondly,

1850
01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:16.239
that he's loved him so much that he adopted them

1851
01:41:17.159 --> 01:41:21.880
as his child, and he views them wonderfully and he

1852
01:41:22.119 --> 01:41:26.199
values them wonderfully. They already have his approval, yes, And

1853
01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:28.680
if they have that, then they can have the courage

1854
01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:32.880
to depend upon God and be totally honest with him.

1855
01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:36.479
And just like we are speaking of totally honest with

1856
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:40.640
a couple close core friends because we were made for teammates.

1857
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:43.640
So it was that God loves you like crazy. He

1858
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.560
wants you to receive his value and his approval and

1859
01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:49.760
his adoption as his beloved son or daughter. And he

1860
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:54.239
wants you to receive his security that you can be confident,

1861
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:56.880
to be honest, to be real, to let someone know

1862
01:41:56.960 --> 01:42:01.479
you're struggling with some depression, some mental health issues, financially

1863
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:05.640
in relationships, an addiction issue. Get it out on the table.

1864
01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:06.840
God already loves you.

1865
01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:10.119
Yeah. Amen, Well we got to leave it there. So

1866
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:12.000
remind everybody where they can go to be in touch

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01:42:12.039 --> 01:42:12.199
with you.

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Well, we're back with you. Good morning, Bill Martinez here

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along with Paulasa from plug in dot com. Hey Paul,

1945
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how we.

1946
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Doing, buddy, I'm doing great. How are you Bill?

1947
01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:38.880
Hey, I'm doing terrific, except my voice is sounding a

1948
01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:41.279
little you know, FM sexy, I guess is what my

1949
01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:45.119
kids just call you know, what can I tell you?

1950
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:49.800
But anyway, obviously cold season is around, so I tell everybody, hey,

1951
01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:53.640
look at you know, just do all that good hygiene

1952
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:56.039
stuff that's going on. Nothing to really freak out about.

1953
01:46:56.119 --> 01:46:59.000
But you know, because even when I was at Mass

1954
01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:01.279
over the weekend, man, a lot of people still coming

1955
01:47:01.319 --> 01:47:04.399
to church and hoping for healing. I guess because they

1956
01:47:04.439 --> 01:47:05.760
were coughing all over the place.

1957
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:08.840
Oh, man, I tell you what, I always kind of

1958
01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:10.560
loved it when I got a cold because at least

1959
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my voice would go down to like it feels like

1960
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I would have hit puberty and right now sometimes, you know,

1961
01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:18.760
sometimes my voice is a little bit higher. So it's

1962
01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:21.079
nice to have that low register every once in a while.

1963
01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:25.279
Yeah, it's funny you should mention that. Yeah, sometimes, except

1964
01:47:25.880 --> 01:47:28.600
you know, well, especially like when you're singing Christmas music,

1965
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:30.560
you can hit some of those bass notes.

1966
01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:35.479
You know, absolutely absolutely, I have that very white thing

1967
01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:35.840
going on.

1968
01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:40.119
Yeah, exactly, you know. So hey, let's talk movies here, Okay,

1969
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:42.680
sounds great. Wicked huh.

1970
01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:47.680
So, yeah, Wicked for Good is coming out before too long.

1971
01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:50.239
It's it's actually not out yet. It'll be out in

1972
01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:52.039
November twenty first, I believe.

1973
01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:53.800
So right before right before Thanksgiving, huh.

1974
01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:56.960
Right before Thanksgiving. This is going to be a PG movie,

1975
01:47:57.119 --> 01:47:59.960
which we have not seen Wicked yet, so I can't

1976
01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:02.279
tell you very much about it, but I do know

1977
01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.159
that when the first one came out, there was a

1978
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:10.039
lot of concern about the magic in Wicked the PG movie.

1979
01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:14.560
Some people find that it's really really a wonderful musical,

1980
01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:18.119
delightful of music, all that kind of stuff, but we

1981
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:20.439
got a lot of letters from parents who are really

1982
01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:23.319
concerned about some of the magic that is in it,

1983
01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:26.920
and so that that sort of makes this new movie

1984
01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.960
sort of a flashpoint. I think for a lot of Christians,

1985
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:33.800
you know, do they go because it's a PG musical?

1986
01:48:34.239 --> 01:48:36.760
Do they not go because of the magical elements? And

1987
01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:40.199
that can be a tricky question for parents to navigate.

1988
01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:43.600
Or because they're forewarned. Thank you very much, plugged in

1989
01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:47.760
dot com. You have this discussion with your kids, and

1990
01:48:48.039 --> 01:48:52.600
so you send them with some understanding and counsel beforehand.

1991
01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:56.359
And then you follow it up you know, post movie viewing.

1992
01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:59.079
Right, absolutely, absolutely, you know, I think that a lot

1993
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of times obviously plugged in exists. We want to make

1994
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sure that parents have the tools that they need to

1995
01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:09.399
decide what movies are right for them and their kids, right,

1996
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And we know that a lot of a lot of

1997
01:49:11.359 --> 01:49:15.039
parents use our movie reviews to say, no, this is

1998
01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:17.720
off limits. But I think that a lot of parents

1999
01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:21.159
also use us to sort of give parents some talking

2000
01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:24.600
tools to talk with their kids about after the movie's done,

2001
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:27.119
you know, because there's a lot of movies that have

2002
01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:31.399
some good elements and some bad elements, and we go

2003
01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:34.439
for the good elements, but the bad elements sometimes, if

2004
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:38.239
they're navigable, they give us opportunities as parents, as moms

2005
01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.239
and dads to talk over some issues that we might

2006
01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:44.800
not ordinarily discuss, you know. And I think that that

2007
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:49.800
Wicked for Good might be for some families that kind

2008
01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:50.399
of catalyst.

2009
01:49:51.119 --> 01:49:52.960
Yeah, hopefully we can keep it good. But you know,

2010
01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:57.000
I think it's interesting, Paul, that why why are these

2011
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:02.239
magical things coming to rise in the culture. There's something

2012
01:50:02.359 --> 01:50:04.680
happening in the culture. I believe there's an influence in

2013
01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:08.920
the culture and I'm curious because this, uh, you know,

2014
01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:12.920
doesn't come out of nowhere, right, there are some influences here,

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01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:15.600
and I think this is part of the challenge that

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01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:21.479
movie you know, producers and writers and all that, you know,

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01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:24.159
they may think, oh, I've just come on to something,

2018
01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:26.319
you know, rather genius. You know, I come up with

2019
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:29.520
this great idea. Well is it your idea or is

2020
01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:31.479
it the spirit of the age's idea?

2021
01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:32.439
Yeah?

2022
01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:34.640
Yeah, and that's a great question. I think that there's

2023
01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:37.680
certainly an element to that. I also think, you know,

2024
01:50:37.800 --> 01:50:40.079
looking back in my own childhood, you know, magic was

2025
01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:42.039
was a big deal then. You always had all the

2026
01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:46.880
all the Disney movies that had you know, fairy godmothers

2027
01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:51.560
and whatnot. And I think that for kids especially, there's

2028
01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:54.000
an appeal to magic. And part of it is just

2029
01:50:54.119 --> 01:50:58.039
because a lot of times kids they're fairly powerless, you know,

2030
01:50:58.159 --> 01:50:59.920
in the world that they live in. You know, there're

2031
01:51:00.439 --> 01:51:03.239
their moms and dad sort of tell them when to

2032
01:51:03.319 --> 01:51:04.960
go to bed and what to eat and all that

2033
01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:07.159
sort of stuff. And I think that there's a desire

2034
01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:11.479
sometimes for kids to have to have that sense of power,

2035
01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:15.720
and magic gives them the illusion of power, you know,

2036
01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:18.760
I think that's one of the reasons why why kids

2037
01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:23.800
can be attracted to those sorts of stories. You also

2038
01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:25.680
talked a little bit about just sort of the age

2039
01:51:25.720 --> 01:51:29.000
in which we live in. Man, don't we all feel

2040
01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:31.880
a little bit powerless sometimes right now? And I think

2041
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:34.079
that that can also be sort of a pull and

2042
01:51:34.079 --> 01:51:38.720
attraction that brings us into some of these stories. And

2043
01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:41.439
we do need to be mindful of that. We need

2044
01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:43.520
to be wary of that well.

2045
01:51:43.600 --> 01:51:46.880
And we need to know where do the answers lie? Paul,

2046
01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:49.520
And I've been sharing this with our audience here for

2047
01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:52.720
the last month or so. Is our answers lie in Heaven,

2048
01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:55.479
not here on earth. If you're looking for an answer

2049
01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:58.640
here on earth, then you're going to be manipulated by

2050
01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:04.079
all those forces that have dominance here on this earthly plane.

2051
01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:08.079
You need to go above and seek your answers there.

2052
01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:12.840
And I'll tell you that for me, that that connects

2053
01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:15.760
with my spirit Paul, Yeah, And I just passed that

2054
01:52:15.880 --> 01:52:18.319
on to parents, is that it's easy to get caught

2055
01:52:18.439 --> 01:52:20.800
up and want to, you know, argue at this level,

2056
01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:23.079
but what a waste of time and then you're gonna

2057
01:52:23.079 --> 01:52:24.479
get tripped up and you're really not going to get

2058
01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:26.760
the right answers because you know, Disney's not going to

2059
01:52:26.800 --> 01:52:29.760
give you the answer. You know, these movie characters aren't

2060
01:52:29.800 --> 01:52:32.119
going to give you the answer. No, but it's going

2061
01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:35.039
to be it's going to come from God himself, because

2062
01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:41.840
right now there is this increasing rise in Satanism and

2063
01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:47.399
you know, these other dark outlets that are coming out

2064
01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:50.359
of the closet right now, and there is a reason

2065
01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:53.520
for it spiritually, But if you're not spiritually aware, you're

2066
01:52:53.560 --> 01:52:54.439
going to get tripped up.

2067
01:52:55.359 --> 01:52:57.760
Well, and I think that that's a fantastic point. And

2068
01:52:57.920 --> 01:53:03.359
and to your point, you know, the the appeal oftentimes

2069
01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:06.720
these these magical stories that that are in our culture,

2070
01:53:07.039 --> 01:53:11.279
they do give us the illusion of control. But as Christians,

2071
01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:15.119
we know that God is in control right and that

2072
01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:18.079
can be hard, I think in our day to day worlds,

2073
01:53:18.119 --> 01:53:20.720
that can be hard for us sometimes to remember. You know,

2074
01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:23.239
I know that I personally am a little bit of

2075
01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:26.279
a control freak and sometimes I forget to lean on

2076
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:29.000
God as much as I should. You know, you want

2077
01:53:29.079 --> 01:53:31.359
to do things in your own strength, your own power,

2078
01:53:31.479 --> 01:53:35.399
your own your own sensibilities. But that's not what we're

2079
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:37.840
called to do as Christians, you know, and and to

2080
01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:42.520
to embrace the idea that God is in control. None

2081
01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:46.159
of this surprises him. That we know the ending to

2082
01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:49.439
the story already, and it's a very very happy one.

2083
01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:52.520
I think that those are things that that as Christians

2084
01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:53.359
we need to lean.

2085
01:53:53.279 --> 01:53:57.199
On, right, you know, you're exactly right. Is that, you know,

2086
01:53:57.359 --> 01:53:59.439
are we loving God with all our hearts, with all

2087
01:53:59.479 --> 01:54:03.359
our with all our strength. Are we honoring God in

2088
01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:07.640
every aspect of our choices that come before us? I mean,

2089
01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:10.079
because this is the deal. I mean, you know, magic

2090
01:54:10.640 --> 01:54:14.720
lures you away from the supremacy of God, and all

2091
01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:16.720
of a sudden then you think you've got the power

2092
01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:17.199
in your hands.

2093
01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:21.199
You like you were saying, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's absolutely true.

2094
01:54:21.239 --> 01:54:24.039
And one of the things that I'm very mindful of

2095
01:54:24.359 --> 01:54:26.520
as we sort of negotiate these because you're right, there

2096
01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:30.199
are so many there are so many movies, so many

2097
01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:34.640
stories that have some magical elements in them. We also

2098
01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:36.640
have to be sort of mindful about the different types

2099
01:54:36.680 --> 01:54:39.039
of magics that we see within some of these things,

2100
01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:42.199
you know, because you have magic and Lord of the Rings.

2101
01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:47.439
But you know, obviously Tolkien who wrote Lord of the Rings,

2102
01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:53.000
he was a devout Catholic and you have in that

2103
01:54:53.399 --> 01:54:56.520
those stories, the magic comes from a different source. It

2104
01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:58.720
comes from a godly source, and I think that you

2105
01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:04.439
have some elements there that sort of impact how we

2106
01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:07.920
can think about magic in some of these stories. On

2107
01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:11.520
the flip side, you know, some of these horrific horror

2108
01:55:11.640 --> 01:55:17.039
movies you have, you know, actual it feels like demonic

2109
01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:20.840
magic presented on the screen, and that's a very different

2110
01:55:20.880 --> 01:55:22.720
type of magic to navigate for sure.

2111
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:26.399
Right yeah, I think you know, whether you're talking something

2112
01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:31.039
supernatural that some people might say magic, but I think

2113
01:55:31.079 --> 01:55:32.880
we need to have a clear understanding of what we

2114
01:55:33.079 --> 01:55:36.159
mean and what your perception of magic is. To your point,

2115
01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:39.560
because look at in contrast this past weekend, for example,

2116
01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:43.680
you have a movie like Sarah's Oil, right that came out. Yeah,

2117
01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:49.600
what a great movie of a young girl who senses

2118
01:55:49.680 --> 01:55:53.359
the spirit and connects with God in such a level

2119
01:55:53.880 --> 01:55:57.600
that she wasn't going to do anything unless she felt

2120
01:55:57.680 --> 01:56:02.800
like she was getting you know, some affirmation from God himself, right.

2121
01:56:03.399 --> 01:56:06.159
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And you see that as the movie

2122
01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:10.039
goes on. You see in a way, I think the

2123
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movie shows a great, a great line of thinking with Sarah.

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You know, where she's originally thinking Oh there's oil here.

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This is great, and it is great, But at the

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same time, as the story goes on, she becomes more

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and more convicted that the oil is sort of secondary

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to God and to the soul. She even says that

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to one of the main characters toward the end. You know,

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this isn't about oil, This isn't about becoming rich. This

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is about your soul. And I think that that's an

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encouraging thing about Sarah's oil. It was a really delightful surprise,

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quite honest, I agree.

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About a minute and a half left. I also wanted

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to get your read on House to David, which is

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now being seen on Prime Video.

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Yeah, yeah, House of David. So this is this is

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a lot a little like The Chosen Right in that

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this is not a word for word retelling of the

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biblical narrative. It definitely adds a lot of elements to

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it for for various reasons, but it does it is

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rooted I think within the idea that that this stuff

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is important, this stuff is real, uh, and and that

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these stories are very very critical to our understanding of God.

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It's a really powerful story. I think it's a fun story.

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A lot of people are being drawn to it. But

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because of those extra biblical elements, it's not necessarily for everyone.

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There's a lot of Christians who will say, Nope.

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Not for me, and that's that's right, and that's and

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that's okay. And John Urwan has made it clearer, you know,

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who directed the movie said this isn't a direct historical

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or biblical account, you know, up front, so you know,

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it just gives you, like the Chosen, it gives you

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something to ponder and think about. I think I think

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it's quite epic. I think they've just done a great

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chop with this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really does bring that world to life,

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and it brings some of the some of the majesty

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of that world into play, and some of the politics too,

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which I always love, you know, just sort of the

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interplay between some of these characters. I love that that

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personal political interplay exactly.

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Well, paul A say, as always, we appreciate you coming

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on the show. Paul is a plugged in director for

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Focus on the Family plugged in dot com. That's the address, right, Paul.

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