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0:01 Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now, Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning. Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here, and Rabbi Jonathan Cahn is going to be joining us in just a few moments. His brand new book, The Altar of Pergamon, The Mystery of the Dark Angel and the Future of the World. So get ready. Put on your helmets and your seatbelts because we're in for an exciting ride. Rabbi, good to have you with us. Always great to be with you, Bill. Well, just a little bit of background. If you don't mind, I'm going to brag on you for just a moment.

0:43 Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has caused worldwide stir with the release of his explosive first book, The Harbinger, which became an instant New York Times bestseller, brought him to national and international prominence. Every one of his books since then has become a New York Times bestseller, including The Mystery of the Shemitah, The Book of Mysteries, The Paradigm, The Oracle, Harbinger II, The Return of the Gods, Josiah Manifesto, Dragon's Prophecy, and The Avatar. Each one opens up deep or long-hidden mysteries that are unfolding and manifesting in our time. He has spoken at the United Nations on Capitol Hill, to members of Congress, to millions around the world. And suffice it to say, when the rabbi speaks, people listen. Jonathan, good to have you with us.

1:30 Always. It's always a blessing, Bill. And when you speak, people listen, too. But I'll tell you, Jonathan, it's just, you know, every time you come on and with every revelation, I mean. you have no idea what an answer to prayer you've become in my life because when I came out of Bible college and felt like God was calling me back behind the microphone because I'd been behind the microphone as a juvenile playing records and taking dedications and doing that sort of thing as a radio personality in Los Angeles. But after Bible college, God says, no, I want you behind the microphone again. And I want you to focus on a biblical worldview and pursuit of the truth. And I said, okay, where am I going to find that?

2:16 Because I had already been given information that many of the senior pastors in the churches today, I think at that time, according to George Barna, was down to about only 56% held to a biblical worldview. And that was, what, about 20 years ago. And it's been declining since. So when you came into my life, it was like, ha, I mean, You were an answer to prayer because what I was also looking for, and I said, God, how about revelation? I want to feel like I'm talking to somebody who's been in the throne room with you and has gotten direct revelation that the people need to hear for a time such as this. And here comes Rabbi Jonathan Cahn.

3:00 Oh, well, thank you, Bill. You know, I'm really blessed. I'm blessed to hear, you know, what you're saying. If it can be of an encouragement, thank you. I'm very honored. Well, God has used you for this time. And, you know, again, starting with the Harbinger and what you did with the Harbinger, how you revealed mysteries and unfolded in Isaiah 9. I mean, it was just phenomenal what you did. And it was no wonder why that book became an instant New York Times bestseller. And you've been on a roll ever since. And it's just like, you know, God is continuing to speak to you, through you, to reveal to us things that are so critical for these, as even Billy Graham would say, are the last of the last days.

3:46 Yeah. Well, you know, there's no end to God. There's no end to his revelation. We just have to be open. You know, I'm honored. I'm the first one, Bill, to be blown away. You know, I'm the first one to say, wow, Lord. And on one hand, I'm not surprised because he never disappoints. There's always more. But on the other hand, I'm still blown away. Lord, you're amazing. Right. Well, give us the background to The Altar of Pergamon. Yeah, this is, you know, this is the 11th book, Bill, and I think I've been on with you with every book, you know. Yes, exactly, yes. And this is a colossal, colossal, gigantic mystery that's so big, it's literally altered the history of the world, not once, but again and again. Could there be this mystery and an object? I mean, it almost sounds like Indiana Jones or it sounds like Lord of the Rings or Da Vinci Code, but it's real. And could there be this object linked to behind everything from the rise of Adolf Hitler, World War I, World War II? The rise of Marxism, communism, the Cold War, the one world order we're seeing, globalization, you know, what we're seeing happening in America, the apostasy in the West. Even the Internet is linked to it.

5:04 Could there be even an American leader who is linked to this thing called the throne of Satan here? And the answer is there is. And in fact, this mystery, I mean, it's so big that it has literally impacted everybody who's watching right now. You, your life has been impacted by this, you know, and I'll just tell you one thing to, before we get into like, you know, the, the, the nuts, the actual mystery, um, is I was led to write it as I did the Harbinger with a story to make it easy to just like, you don't even realize it and you're getting, you know, but what, but what's revealed is real. The story part, um, um, doing it that not only to get the revelation out, but also that people can give it to their unsaved people, loved ones and people in their life. Because people will say, oh, wow, cool.

5:50 It doesn't matter where they're at. Like, oh, wow, is it cool? It's like Indiana Jones, like Da Vinci. And it's going to lead to salvation. So that's my hope as well, to get in getting this mystery out, not only for God's people, but they can get it to get their people saved. Well, you know, when you said that, you know, that you did wrap it in a story, because as I was reading this, that's what I thought of Harbinger. you know, it was of that, of that kind of same genre and that writing style that's very comfortable and the way it's, the way you bring it and it adds life to it as opposed to just saying, well, here's, let me just give you the nuts and bolts, you. Know, right? Yeah. Yeah. And, and I think, you know, I think that, you know, I think actually this, I don't know how far you got in it. I'm really glad that you started.

6:37 Oh, no. But, but it's, but the thing is that, I think there's more story in this than I've ever had. And also, but at the same time, there's more revelation because when we looked at this, I think there's like at least 200 mysteries that are going to be unfolded in the Altar of Pergamon. And for those who don't know, the subtitle, just to give you a little taste of it, it's the mystery of the dark angel and the future of the world. And so this is unveiling it, but it's through this man who's a skeptic, who comes across this ancient, this page of this cryptic, book. And he started, he has to go across the world to journey, to unlock it with someone else, with a woman who's actually a believer.

7:17 And they, you know, and there's danger and there's all that mystery and every, you know, and, and, but, but it's ultimately leading the, not only it's opening the mystery, it's leading the reader to salvation if they don't know, if they don't know the Lord. Right. Exactly. So the altar of Pergamon, it's actual reveal. What does it reveal? Yeah. Well, it's that, and it begins with, in Isaiah, he quotes Satan saying, I will exalt my throne. I'll lift up my throne. I'll be like God. Well, in Revelation, it's the other place that talks about the throne of Satan.

7:58 And it says in Pergamon, it says to the church of Pergamon, it says where the throne of Satan is. Now that's pretty strong. I mean, There's a place on earth with the throne of Satan. So what's that about? Well, I just came back from Pergamon. I've never been there in my life. and they have a high place of Pergamon, and on the high place was called the Great Altar. And this was almost like the epitome of the pagan world. It was an altar to the king of the gods, Zeus, but that's, you know, Satan's behind all that. And it was really embodied. It was the biggest altar the Greeks ever built on earth. It's gigantic. And the thing is, throne of Satan... The gospel comes into the world. People start abandoning the pagan world. They abandon the throne. The throne of Satan or the altar of Pergamon falls into ruins.

8:48 And it's buried for almost 2,000 years. But what would happen if someone would come there and start uncovering the throne of Satan? And the thing is, it happened. It happened. And when it happened, what happens is that things start happening and changing in the world. Well, stay right there. We've got more from Jonathan Cahn after this. We call ourselves ASAP Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket ASAP. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time. You get through right away. No searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines. You know them.

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14:38 So yes, it's coming out basically. So yeah. And, and the thing is that, that, so the guy who, who stumbles on the altar doesn't even know what it, it doesn't even know it's the throne of Satan. And what he does is he takes two pieces and he sends them back to his homeland and his homeland is going to be joined to the throne of Satan. What's the homeland? It's Germany. So Germany is going to have, is going to be linked to them. I think about this. I mean, Think ahead, you know, Germany. Okay. Now, now the thing is that people don't know Germany didn't even exist. Germany only came into the world as a nation in 1871, 1871 is the year that the throne of Satan came back into the world. So, so at the same moment, the, all the, the, the altar comes back, Germany comes into the world and Germany is going to be used as, as, as we're going to see.

15:29 Right. Well, exactly. And as we, as we recall, Certainly how in, in two world wars, right? Oh, oh, everything, you know? Yeah. I mean this, this, the, and more than that, I mean, yes. And, and, and not just Germany, Berlin, where they're, where the throne of Satan is going to be moved to. So, I mean, and that it's behind everything. I mean, it's, it's, we're going to see that. Yes. So, so what happens it now, let me say something else at the same time that the altar that, that, that, that first pieces go back agent 71. Another German is digging in the same region, and he's searching for the lost city of Troy. His name was Heinrich Schliemann. And he comes across an ancient sign.

16:12 He comes across about 2,000 versions of this ancient sign. And this ancient sign becomes a sensation. And in Germany particularly, what sign was it? It was the swastika. The swastika came into the world in this mass form at the same moment that the throne of Satan came back into the world and Germany came into the world. It's all like a setup for what's going to happen. So when you say that this sign, and this was a literal sign that was dug up? Almost 2,000 swastikas in stone, in engravings. Yeah, the swastika is an ancient sign. It's a pagan sign, ancient, but it's unearthed as the altar is unearthed, as the throne of Satan is.

17:00 What was the origination? I mean, you're talking a sign now, fast forward 2,000 years, and all of a sudden now you've got hundreds of swastikas that come out of this digging. What was the origination of the swastika? The swastika is an ancient symbol. I mean, similar, listen, similar is the cross. I mean, you know, people were making crosses because this is basics. But swastika was an ancient pagan or occultic symbol that you find in India. But you also find it in pagan lands. You find it among the Greeks. You find it among... the Nordic or Germanic people. So it's this ancient pagan sign that becomes the sign of demonic, of satanic work.

17:47 I was going to say, was there demonic connection to it? Well, it's pagan, number one, and occultic. Yeah. So then that would, because it's anti-God. Yeah, totally. And, I mean, some people make note that the swastika is a broken cross. It's a cross that's been broken on everything. Well, the thing is that now that's in 1871. A few years later, Germany comes to Pergamon to actually dig up the throne of Satan and take it. Now, did they understand it as the throne of Satan at that time? I don't think so. I don't think most of them were reading their Bible. I think they took it simply. Well, first of all, when the guy, his name was Karl Humann, sends the pieces to Germany, the first pieces, He doesn't even know what it is. Soon they realize it's the altar of Pergamon, because the ancient world speaks about that altar.

18:44 But they still are not getting that this is the throne of Satan. You know, this is linked to Satan and, and revelation. And so if they knew that, would they have done this? I don't know, but they, but they dig it up and they, you know, they put it, it takes a few years to dig it up. And this is again, like Indiana Jones, they put the pieces in crates, they put them on animals. Then they go, they put them onto ships and the ships sail across the sea. They go to Germany, they put them on trains, they go to Berlin. So now they've moved. They all think about it. I mean, the throne of Satan has moved from Pergamon. to Berlin, Germany. And now, the thing is, that's 1878 when they start digging it up. 1878, 79 is when the first pieces come to Germany. So the amazing thing is something else comes to Germany. You know, one people, the devil hates all of God's people, but the devil has a special hatred for the Jewish people because he knows. God called them into being to fulfill his purposes, bring the Bible, bring Messiah, bring the kingdom which will come. So the enemy is going to try to destroy them, of course. I mean, it makes perfect sense.

19:53 And so something happens in Germany when the throne of Satan gets to Germany. And what happens, the same moment, this is 1878, 1879, the same moment it comes to Germany, a word comes into the world and the word is anti-Semitism. First time. It didn't exist before. The anti-Semitism has always been hatred, but anti-Semitism is a modern manifestation, a movement. And it's born in the land. When the altar comes to Germany, it's born in Germany, and it's born at the exact moment. And so it spreads throughout Germany. And something else, you were alluding to this, but when the altar came to Germany, there was an occult explosion or revival that spreads across Germany. People don't realize that. It was actually setting the stage for Hitler. And speaking of which, let me... I'll put it this way. It's kind of like a nation was possessed. I mean, when you look at what happened to Germany, and you say, how did they do that? Why did they go crazy over this?

20:53 It's like a possession of a nation. Because what was Germany like before this, though? They were very intellectual. They were prosperous. It was. You know, here they were, they were really leaders in so many ways, weren't they Rabbi? Yeah. And listen, the reformation came from Germany, right? So you, you have the revive, the restoring of the Bible, the focus on the Bible. Uh, but now they're at a point 19th century, uh, they're turning, you know, and you're, they're opening the door because when you turn from the gospel, you open the door. And by the way, you know, it also came from Germany and this is after the reformation, higher criticism. which was to criticize the Bible and try to say the Bible is not the word of God.

21:34 So they opened the door, you know, and, and so, and now they have the throne of Satan and, you know, so it's, it's, so it's like they put the ones who possess the throne of Satan get possessed by it. Yeah. And in 1889, something happens. Well, just before they start deciding, Germany says, we're going to put, we're going to piece together the throne, the altar, we're going to put it together. Because it came in pieces, came in thousands of pieces. So kind of in secret, they start piecing it together. And so for the first time in 2,000 years, the altar, the throne of Satan, appears back in the world, 1889. At the same moment, something else appears in the world.

22:16 A child is born, and he's given the name Adolf Hitler. Hitler comes into the world with the throne of Satan. I mean, you can't make this up. And his whole life is going to be joined to the mystery of the throne of Satan from birth to death. I mean, the whole thing. So everything's being put, set in motion. So here they are. And again, Pergamon is in Turkey, right? It's modern-day Turkey. So it moves to Germany, Berlin, and. It's amazing because this is the thing that we see in every kind of movement of God. There's always a counter movement, isn't there?

22:57 Yes. Yes. Yes. That's a great point. Yeah. And for every counter movement, God does a redemption movement. Right. So, yeah. Yeah. You know, the enemy uses the things of God also to try to turn them away from their purpose, you know. And the, and God takes the things that the enemy uses and he turns up for good. I mean, so you got that, but yes, there is. And so you, so yeah, Germany was used to bring the word to the world, to the reformation. And so it's going to be used to try to destroy the people of the word, which is the Jewish people, you know? So, yeah. And so what Germany does is they said they're going to build a house for the altar. It's kind of like every altar, you know, an altar had a temple. Well, they're going to build a massive museum, which is just pretty much, it's named after the altar. And it starts rising in the 1920s, okay? At the same, they're going to reveal it to the world, they're going to open it up to the world. Well, at the same moment, something else starts rising up, is Adolf Hitler and the Nazis in the 1920s.

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28:31 Yeah, so the thing is that at that, you know, what happens is that, so in 1928, the Nazis have a setback. They win only 2% of the vote. Okay, that's okay. It looks like they're gone. But in 1930, the altar is revealed to the world. They open up that museum. They reveal it. They pieced it totally together for the world. And at that moment, this is autumn of 1930, at that moment, Hitler suddenly is catapulted He is catapulted from the 2%. Now they're the number two party in Germany. And then they're number one. And then he takes over. So with the altar. And you know the day that they opened up the altar to the world?

29:12 You know what the day was? It was Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Bible. Which is, it's like the enemy takes the things of God. And Yom Kippur is about the altar of God and it's about salvation. And so instead now it's the altar of Satan, which is not going to save the Jewish people. It's going to be, it's a warning. It's going to go to destroying them. So, yeah. So how much awareness, again, is this is developing and they're piecing it together. I mean, we know after everything was all said and done uh germany was uh in a sense possessed only about 10 percent of germany was possessed by uh by the nazis and they controlled 10 percent covered you know control 90 percent right is that fair.

29:55 It may be, now I don't need, I have to look at the things, but it may be something like 10% may have been actually members of the Nazi. Right, exactly. But people, yeah, but Germany is, but when you look at those crowds, I mean, look at the crowds of Germans. They were, I'm not saying everyone, there were those who resisted, but they were, you know, a remnant. But most were caught up. Most were caught up in it. Well, and that's, so as this is developing, now here we're in the early 1930s, And now you have the rebuilt, the coming together of the throne of Satan. Did they understand, Jonathan, did they understand what they had done, what they were doing here?

30:35 I don't think so because, I mean, maybe some did, but I don't think so because, remember, Germany is now turning away from God in a big way. You know, it's turning to a pagan movement, which are the Nazis, you know. And the Nazis, you know, we know they hated the Jews, but they also hated the church. They couldn't say it as publicly, but Hitler wanted to destroy Christianity. And it was a pagan movement. So they weren't really reading their Bibles to say that if they did, they would say, wait a minute, wait a minute. You know, this is the center of Pergamon, throne of Satan. Now it's, okay, now it's Berlin. Now, by the way, here's another thing that happened. Another German guy goes to Turkey where the altar had been and the foundation is still there. And instead of, what he brings back from Turkey is he brings back an occultic revelation and he comes back to bring a cultic revelation to Germany. He starts an organization, an occult society called the Thule Society. This occult society, the Thule Society, decides to start a little party. That little party becomes the Nazi Party. It was born of the occult. Born of an occult society. So that's all there.

31:43 So now Hitler takes over. 1933, he becomes chancellor. Takes over. He commissioned... Go ahead. No, my thought was, as this is coming out, I mean, we already have, what, in 1848, you've got Darwinism coming in the scene, too, which exacerbated the anti-God movement and which dovetailed, ended up dovetailing, and Adolf Hitler, I was told, supported Darwinism. Oh, the idea of the master race, meaning master race and the survival of the fittest. We're going to destroy the weak. I mean, yeah, it was very Darwinian. Yeah, and by the way, 1848 is also the year of revolutions, socialist revolutions, which is another thing we're going to see as linked to the altar. is Marxism, and we're having a revival of socialism, and we're having a revival of anti-Semitism, and all these things are linked to the throne of Satan and the altar. So yes, all these things open the door, and they open the door for him. Yes, it's not in a vacuum. So Hitler, when he comes to power, he commissions his architect, a guy named Albert Speer, to build him this massive podium, a colossal where he could speak to the masses. When you see Hitler speaking to, it looks like it's a million people, it's Nuremberg. That's where they have the rallies. And that's where he's going to be standing on this massive thing. Well, the guy builds it for him. And the guy, Albert Speer, I found in his writings, he admits he built that podium

33:15 for Hitler massive. It was a reproduction of the altar of Pergamon. So Hitler is standing. When you see Hitler, he's standing on the throne of Satan, and he's invoking destruction. That's the will of Satan. Now let me go even deeper, if it's okay. No, please. I mean, this is mind-blowing, because here you are, and you're thinking, this happened all, you know, 100 years ago, and you are revealing this mystery and saying, here it is. I mean, you got the altar of Pergamon, Satan's throne, and now here's Adolf Hitler standing, standing right there on the throne of Satan.

34:01 Yeah, and the one who was born with the altar. He was born with the throne of Satan coming into the world. Now he's standing on this massive, colossal reproduction. And so now here's another mystery. The altar of Pergamon was not just an altar, it was an altar of burnt offerings. Burnt, burnt. Okay. So now in the language of the Greeks who built the altar, and they didn't call it the altar of burnt offerings, the way you say it in Greek is the word for burnt is kaustos, and the word for completely burnt is holos. It becomes the word holocaust. Holocaust, yes. The altar was the altar of the holocaust from the beginning.

34:44 The moment the pieces come to Germany, that was the plan. It was an altar of the holocaust. And so the enemy is taking something. Now, here's the thing. The word Holocaust actually appears in the Bible. And I'll tell you what. In the first translation, which is the Septuagint, the Greek, which the New Testament uses, the ancient, ancient. When it gets to things like when God says to Abraham, offer up your son in the Septuagint as a Holocaust. So here you have the whole Jewish nation is inside Isaac. And it's, it could, it's going to be offered up saved by a lab. Okay. And, and so now, and then, then when you read Leviticus in the ancient translation, it says, these are the laws of the Holocaust. The fire will always be burning and you'll have ashes. And, and, and the thing is what the Nazis did is it was Satan taking something, wholly a sacrifice and turning it to satanic purposes instead of saving Jewish people. The sacrifice saved them. He's destroying them with a thing. He's taking it and he's making it demonic. Holocaust doesn't mean a disaster. Holocaust literally means a sacrifice, a burnt offering sacrifice. That's what's happening. This is satanic. And by the way, when I told you that the altar was revealed to the world in Germany in 1930, it was on Yom Kippur, on Yom Kippur.

36:11 The scripture that they were reading, that Jewish people were reading on Yom Kippur, in the Septuagint, has the word Holocaust four times. So when the altar comes in, they're speaking about the Holocaust. You know, it's like a warning. And let me go even further. The Bible says that the altar of burnt offerings, or the altar of the Holocaust, was in the holy place. There's actually a scripture that says the altar of burnt offerings was in the holy place. Well, when you take, we already saw the word for the altar of burnt offerings was Holocaust. What about the word for holy place? There's a word in German that speaks of a place called holy or the holy place. The word is Auschwitz. Auschwitz means the holy place. So you have the Holocaust in Auschwitz, the burnt in the holy place.

37:02 And so it's the devil's offering. He's taken the thing that's gone and he's twisting it all. And you know what the last sacrifice was? You know who the high priest was over the Holocaust? It was Adolf Hitler. He's the one who did it. And so at the end, when the devil's through with him, can't use him anymore, he's destroyed. He kills himself. Same hand, he offers himself. And then he says that he orders that his body be burnt as a burnt offering. I mean, he's just burnt. And so the last sacrifice of the Holocaust was Adolf Hitler himself. That's the last Holocaust is the burnt offering of him. And now to set the stage for when we go to the next program, because there's so much coming, because it's going to come up to right now here behind everything. But the thing is this. So for Hitler was the owner, the possessor of the altar. He dies.

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42:24 So in this final 12 minutes together, Rabbi... we'll go ahead and, you know, go through and pick it up from where we are. Now it moves, it changes hands within a 24-hour period, right? Yes, yes. And when it changes hands, It's going to change history. It's good. Now a new power is going to receive the throne of Satan and it's going to affect our lives. In fact, I could say for sure it's affected all of our lives. We were born or I was born under there when we were under these things happening. Um, so this has all affected our life and we'll, we'll open that up to, you know, where we are and where we are now and where it's going in the future and all that. If I could just say it, the book is everywhere. So if you just go out, if you go online now or go to Amazon or any place online, You'll see it, the Altar of Pergamon, and any bookstore will have it as soon as it, and the other thing, but I just, again, don't just get it for yourself. Get copies for people in your life, because it's a story, it's going to draw them in, and it leads to salvation, and how real God is.

43:24 Yes, amen. Okay, so now it's changed hands, and as you said, we have been living under this all our lives, our lives. Our current lives, I mean, right? Well, everything. Yeah. I don't know, Bill, I don't know when you were born, so I'm not going to ask how much of the mystery you've been in. 1950, I'll tell you. Okay. Okay. So you were, okay. You know, see, if there's, okay, so here's the thing. The altar, this is what happens. By the way, how much time do we have? We have two programs, right? Yeah, well, we can, you know, we'll keep on going. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Okay. Okay, let's go. All right. So. The thing is, there's so much, I'm just giving a taste, but still there's so much. All right. So Hitler's in a bunker in Germany and he kills himself in that bunker.

44:12 In another bunker in Berlin, the Nazis are hiding something else. They're hiding the throne of Satan in the other bunker. So you got Hitler in one bunker, the throne of Satan in another bunker. The soldiers are coming through Berlin and they come upon this bunker and they open it up and inside they see it's the throne of Satan. So they take it, they possess it. And the altar changes hands. So who is it that has it now? The soldiers were the soldiers of the Red Army. Now the Soviet Union possesses the throne of Satan. They take the throne of Satan. So now the center of evil in the world moves from Nazi Germany to to the Soviet Union and communism. And that's exactly what happens. And we didn't realize this. You know, say growing up with the Cold War, didn't realize that they actually possessed the throne of Satan the whole time. You know, so I mean, you know, it's crazy.

45:10 And so where did they put the throne? I mean, here they take it. Where did they put it? In a crate? Yes. Okay. First, it's in Berlin for a little while. Then Moscow orders, they take it, they put it in crates, just as you said. They put it on trains and they take it to the Soviet Union, Russia. Soviet Union now possesses, has the throne of Satan. And what happens to the Soviet Union? All of a sudden it goes from power to superpower. It was only one nation that was communist, but once they have the throne of Satan, it's like a dark anointing. Communism spreads, takes over all of Eastern Europe, takes over China. takes over one-third of every person on earth is living under communism, you know, at that time. And at that moment, living under communism when they have the throne of Satan, you know. So all this and what was common, every power that gets the throne of Satan, the altar, they hate the Jewish people, they hate Christians, the church, they hate Israel. I mean, they become enemies of it just like Satan is, you know, so that, but, but the, but the story goes is even deeper because even before that happened, the communism was already linked to the throne of Satan. Just quick things, Karl Marx, you know, people don't really, first of all, where's he from Germany, Germany, the land that's going to be of the altar, Germany. Um, and, and he grows

46:40 up actually knowing about Jesus, but he, and when he's 17, he writes a devotion to Jesus. But then when he's 18, they send him to Berlin, the place where Satan's throne is going to be, and he transforms. And he starts writing strange verses, as if Satan was speaking through him. He says, I will exalt my throne. This is Karl Marx. It's not Satan. I will exalt my throne. I will bring the world to destruction, and I will walk as a god among the runes. And I have a sword that the prince of darkness gave me. This is Karl Marx. He says, all that exists deserves to be destroyed. Karl Marx, okay. Karl Marx writes the Manifesto. Nobody reads it. Karl Marx is going to be a has-been. We would never have heard his name. Time has passed him by. But except something happens that resurrects Marxism. It would have been dead.

47:30 You know what it was? It was the altar of Pergamon. Remember I said the altar comes to Germany? At the moment those pieces first come to Germany, at that moment, Marxism is suddenly resurrected in Germany. And the Communist Manifesto was reissued, goes to the world, becomes the number two bestseller under the Bible. And now at the same moment of the altar in Germany, same moment it comes, the Marxism goes to Russia. And when they were starting to dig up the altar, the moment they're putting their shovels and they're digging up, another child is born with the altar. His name is Joseph Stalin. He is also born with the altar. And the whole, I mean, you know, remember I told you that when they pieced together the altar in 1889 and all of a sudden Hitler is born, okay?

48:22 Same moment, they're piecing it together, something happens that's going to change the world. Lenin comes into Marx, comes in the same moment. Lenin picks up Marx and the rest is history. The red flag of communism comes in, happens in the same year, 1889. Everything happens when they. So there's all sorts of history, but the thing is that, to this, which you can't get into, but the thing is that, so now the altar has come to Russia, to the Soviet Union. And who's over it? Joseph Stalin, who was born with the altar. Every one of those two children who were born with the altar, they become the masters of the altar at the right time. So now, why do we call the devil the devil? We call him the devil because it comes from the word diabolos.

49:07 Diabolus means the one who divides, who divides. So the devil's a divider, because if he can divide, he can destroy. If he can divide, he can conquer and destroy. So what happens to the world when the Soviet Union gets the altar? What happens is the world is divided into two camps, each with a power to destroy the world. So this mystery is even behind the Cold War. What was the Cold War, which we were born under? It was the side that had the throne of Satan versus the side that was against that. That was it. Good and evil, right there.

49:49 As much as it could be, it was. And all by that, whoever has the throne. I mean, this part, it sounds like the Lord of the Rings. You know, you have this evil object, you know, that's changing. So, all right. So now what happens is the Soviet Union in 1958, decides to send the altar back to its puppet, East Germany, East Berlin. It still possesses it. It's still over it. Its troops are in East Berlin, but the location has changed for political reasons. As soon as they move it back, they move it back in 1958, all of a sudden Berlin, and you might remember something, Berlin becomes a center of crisis between the Cold War. Berlin was the main thing. And the Soviet Union and America almost come to war over Berlin. And when did the Berlin crisis begin? November 1958. When did the altar arrive in Berlin? November 1958. This crisis keeps going until you have John Kennedy. and Khrushchev of the Soviet Union. They meet in 1961. Khrushchev demands all of Berlin. America says no.

51:02 Khrushchev builds the wall, the Berlin Wall. At the wall, at Checkpoint Charlie, there comes a massive Berlin crisis that puts, on one side of the wall, you have Soviet soldiers armed in tanks. On the other side, you have American soldiers, first time ever, They're ready. Both sides are preparing for a nuclear war in that crisis. And right in the middle of it is the altar, the throne of Satan, the altar there. Now, we get past it, but now is the most... Well, before that, the devil wants to destroy the world. He's a destroyer. He's a divider. He's a destroyer. He divides the world so he can destroy it. But you can only do that if you have the power to destroy it. So what's the power to destroy it?

51:45 Nuclear destruction. So when did... Could even that be linked to the mystery and the altar of Pergamon? Well, it is. Here's the thing. What kind of altar was it? The altar of burnt offerings. It totally burns up. Well, and how do you say that in Greek? Holocaust. Well, the Holocaust is only used for two things. What happened with Hitler and when we say nuclear holocaust. That's it. Both holocausts came from the altar. When did that power come into the world? Well, New Mexico, America. No. It came into the world at the throne of Satan in Berlin. It came into the world in 1938 when two German scientists split the atom under Adolf Hitler. Hitler almost had it.

52:33 And that's the plan of the enemy. Imagine if he got it. By a miracle, God kept him from getting it, largely because he persecuted the Jewish people and Jewish scientists went to America. That's really the grace of God. So now, bringing it back, you got the two powers divided, the world divided. We all grew up under it. You got nuclear power, nuclear destruction, and then you have the most dangerous moment in world history. When was it? It was the Cuban Missile Crisis. And what happens is, and you probably remember some of it. Oh, I am. Oh, yeah. By the way, speaking of personal stuff, my father grew up, was born in Germany, and he grew up under Hitler. Oh, wow. And he just escaped with his life. He got out on a train to get out. That's why I only exist because he got out. Yeah, exactly. But it's touched all of us. It doesn't matter who you are. So 1962, the Soviet Union puts missiles in Cuba. America discovers it.

53:27 Kennedy quarantines Cuba. American ships in the water. Soviet ships are coming with more missiles. The world prepares for nuclear destruction, literally. I mean, we would have been, if by one hair it could have destroyed, we wouldn't be here today. And the thing is that people are in bomb shelters. They're putting dog tags on their children. And by a miracle, we get past it. But here's the thing. The secret story was this. It wasn't about Cuba. What happened, the real beginning was Khrushchev was by the Black Sea. And they pointed out to him that America had missiles on the other side of the sea aimed at Russia. He said, okay, we're putting missiles in Cuba right by their doorstep. So the missiles that almost brought the world to destruction weren't the missiles in Cuba. They were missiles on the other side of the Black Sea. So where were they? What were the missiles that almost destroyed the world? They were all standing in the land of Pergamon, the throne of Satan.

54:21 They were all in the ancient kingdom of Pergamon, every one of them. And, and, you know, remember the altar of Pergamon is linked to Zeus, you know, Satan, Zeus, Jupiter. The missiles bore the name of the god Jupiter on them. That almost destroyed the world. This is Bill Martinez. We're live and we're talking with Jonathan Cahn, his brand new book, The Altar of Pergamon. We've got more from Jonathan. Stay with us. We call ourselves ASAP Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket ASAP. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time. You get through right away. No searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines.

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55:59 Well, we're talking with Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, his brand-new book, The Altar of Pergamon, which is available now. Its official release date is September 1st. The Mystery of the Dark Angel and the Future of the World, and he's walking us through the significance of the throne of Satan. and its influence on world events. Go ahead. Yeah, to this day, what the Bible says is true. And by the way, it's coming out, but if you go online, you can get it. It's everywhere. So, yeah, so now, what happens? Okay, we've got the world divided, the world on edge, you know what I mean? When I was in school, they had air raid drills. I had to go out. We were under desk. Yeah, exactly. You were under desk. We had to cover our heads in case there was a nuclear explosion. We'd get protected. So, OK, lasts until. But if you see, if you just follow where the altar is, what happens to the altar, you'll see what happens to the entire world. What happens in 1989, the wall comes down. OK, and so what happens? Germany actually becomes back into the world as a nation. The first time it came was with the altar in 1871.

57:06 Now it comes back again with the altar. And so now the altar is cut off from communism. Communism loses the altar. The Soviet Union loses the altar. Eastern Europe loses the altar. Eastern Germany loses it. So what happens? The communist world collapses. It disappears. You say they lost the altar. Where did the altar go? No, no. Meaning they lost... It was in Berlin. They lost possession of the altar. They no longer controlled the altar. They possessed it up to that moment. You know, East Germany, communism, and the Soviet Union possessed the altar. But once the wall came down and Germany became one, they lost possession of the altar. And once they lost the possession, communism collapses in Eastern Europe, collapses in Soviet Union. Everything follows where that thing is. So... Now, what happened? By the way, we're going to get to a thing that is linked to an American leader on the stage who's even, not Trump, on the stage even now, who is linked to the altar of Pergamon and the throne of Satan. I may not name it, but I'll mention it. All right. So what happens now? Every time the altar changes, a new power starts rising. One power falls, one power rises. So what's the power now? Well, if the enemy could not destroy the world by dividing it, which he tried, He will try to possess it by bringing it together as one, one world.

58:33 One world government. One world Bible prophecy. Now we're in that realm. The altar is converging. So what happens? When the altar comes down, Germany becomes one. So Eastern Europe becomes one. And the world starts globalizing in a way that's never before. People say new world order, globalization, new world. Well, so the thing is that one is the thing, the Bible says that's going to happen. It's not going to be good. And the other thing is that something else, what else has been bringing the world together? The web. The web. When did the web come into the world? It was conceived in 1989. the same moment the wall came down in Berlin. Okay, so now you have these things happening in the same moment. When did it come into the world?

59:18 In 1990, Germany comes into the world, is unified at the same, that's the time that the web actually is born. It was conceived, then it was born. And you know, In, in, in, you know, bill, when you say worldwide web, it's on every computer and it's WWW, you know? Right. Well, in the language of the Bible, it's not WWW. It's vav, vav, vav, letter vav, letter vav. Every in the Bible, every letter has a number has a numerical value. It's a number. So what it translates to in the language of the Bible, WWW translates to six, six, six, six, six. Yes. Every computer. on every computer. All right. So now the, the other thing is what about, I promised you, uh, uh, I'll, I'll touch on a mystery of an American leader and how, and how this altar actually has to do with America as well. Um, there was an American leader. He's still on the, he's still around. Um, and he, he actually goes to the place of Satan's throne and there he stands under an image of an, of a, of a ancient pagan goddess, uh, And he delivers a speech to the world calling the world to become as one. He goes back to America and begins his rise to power in America. And he's going to dominate America for a time. As he is beginning his rise, he's standing on a stage. And it's on television. It's before the world, everybody. Behind him, his rise begins right there.

1:00:47 Behind him, there is a structure that they built behind him. And that structure, everybody's looking at the structure and saying, well, that's kind of weird. Was it a Greek temple? You know, what they did and whether they knew it or not, what they did is they, they built, what that structure was, was a reproduction of the altar of Pergamon behind the American throne of Satan, behind the American leader who was about to rise to power. And, and, and now that goes, cause of the altars now sort of in the West, And so what's been happening to the West? You know, it used to be, you said before, it's like good and evil. You know, you had the Cold War. You knew what was good. And you had the throne of Satan there. But now the throne of Satan is a little bit, it's a bit different. So now what's happening to the West, like Europe, is becoming anti-Christian. Right.

1:01:35 The same pattern that happened to Europe is what we're seeing here in America. Yeah. Exactly. And in our mainstream culture, we're watching it to a dechristianization. It follows the altar. So now, could this actually dovetail with end-time prophecy? Because the mystery that the altar of Pergamon is revealing is past, present, and future. And the thing is that the Bible speaks about a coming world power and a world state. And now, could this have to do with the altar? What was the last power that had the altar of Pergamon when it was still functioning and burning? It was Rome. Rome. The altar disappears and Rome disappears. The altar comes back. Rome is coming back.

1:02:17 The Bible speaks of a revived form of Roman, which is the one world thing. It was a universal empire in some form or another. But the other thing is something else comes into the world. Right after the altar changes hands again, the wall falls, another power is officially born. It's called the European Union. He was born right then. And right then, and part of this one world thing. And you know who possesses the altar right now? It's not just Germany. Germany's part of it. It's the European Union that has the altar. And the European Union has more of Rome than any other entity in history. You know, the Roman Empire. Right.

1:02:58 Are you talking about, I mean, when you talk about Rome coming back, the first thing that comes to mind is brutality, Rabbi. Right. I mean, they were such a brutal, brutal regime. Yes, they were. And think about, I mean, they were, what were they before? They were the persecutors of Christians. Yes. They were the destroyers of Israel. You know, think about that. They were the ones that created, they came up with the idea of the crucifixion. Well, they, they certainly used it. Yeah. Or maybe perfected it. I guess they used it. They're the ones who crucified.

1:03:41 Yeah. They, they actually did the physical crucifying of the Lord that they, they persecuted the church, gave, fed them to the lions. They destroyed Israel. They came in and that's why the Jewish people are all over the world. So it's a big thing. So, yes. So it's interesting that you're saying that because so every power, think about it, every power that's had the altar, turned against that same spirit came in then turned against the Jewish people turned against was against the church against Christianity, you know, and the final one will be the antichrist, you know, and if the antichrist, the antichrist is linked to this, this Roman or European power, he's going to possess the throne of Satan. You had Hitler, you had Stalin, and now you're going to have the Antichrist. And there's so much to this because there's an ancient myth that involves a princess and a god of the Greeks wants her. So he turns himself into a bull and she says, oh, what a nice bull. Gets on top of the bull, the bull abducts her, and then he reveals himself and then seduces her. Here's the thing. The name of the princess, ancient myth, the princess's name, ancient name is Europa or Europe.

1:04:59 Europe. Europe gets its name from an ancient myth of a woman riding a beast. Think about that. Riding a beast. And a woman who was seduced. You know who the god was? Zeus. Altar of Zeus. So a woman who's seduced by Zeus. So now you have the altar of Pergamon, which is the throne of Satan, but it's also the altar of Zeus, is moved to, is now under the possession of Europa. You have the princess and the bull together. And what is it? It's about she gets carried away. Well, when it comes to Europe first time, she gets carried away with Nazism. Then she gets carried away with communism. Then now she's going to get carried away with the Antichrist. And this goes to a deep thing because when you say about, you're saying like, what was Rome and now what's going to be? Well, the other thing is that, you know, Rome has a fight with Israel. You know, it's a long fight. You know, they won that round.

1:05:53 They destroyed Israel, but Israel's back. And when Israeli soldiers used to get sworn in, they'd be sworn in on top of Masada, where the Romans, you know, took over. And they swear Masada will never fall again. In other words, what kind of nation Israel is thinking in terms of 2,000 years? So now Israel comes back. Israel comes into the world. You're going to have another Rome come back in the world, you know. The altar is back in the world, okay? And here's another mystery here. You know, why did the altar come back? Why did the throne of Satan come back then? Well, when I looked at it, it's just when God started bringing Israel back into the world, you know, he started resurrecting. That's the exact moment that the devil started bringing the throne of Satan back into the world.

1:06:42 It parallels. And so what did he do? Brought it to Germany that almost destroyed the Jewish people before God could have the nation resurrect him. Then the Soviet Union that also tried to destroy Israel. And then the Antichrist who willed to try to destroy Israel. So it's all linked because the devil knows that when the Jewish people come back to that land, somebody else is coming back to that land. So, of course, he would do everything he could to stop it. And you know, you know, the other thing I'm just saying it because I will. I don't think I've said it on any show. I'm just saying to you because we know that is the mystery begins actually of the of the altar program. It actually begins with Hanukkah. I mean, it begins with the devil from the beginning, but Hanukkah, the guy named Antiochus, who's a shadow of the Antichrist, he comes to the temple of Jerusalem, desecrates it, defiles it, abomination, you know, and then he declares Judaism illegal. He tries to wipe it out. Well, the Antichrist is going to try to do the same thing. But the Maccabees end up defeating this guy. They take the temple back and they take the altar. He built an altar. They take it off the thing. You know what the altar was? The altar that was the abomination was the altar of Zeus. Antiochus had a friend who was, his friend was the king of Pergamon. And right after the altar gets taken off, the devil loses one round. His friend builds the altar of Pergamon, which becomes the center of evil against Christians

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1:12:57 I just know... that our audience and those that read this book. And this is why, you know, your appeal to get it out there, to bless us, because it's a blessing, you know, because what does God say? The word says, my people perish for lack of knowledge, right? This book is filled with knowledge. This will fill you with power for these days, because the thing that I'm seeing, Rabbi, right now is the word contrast keeps coming up in my spirit. There's, you know, It's dark, it's light, it's life, it's death, it's good, it's evil. I mean, there's no in-between anymore, right? Yeah, yeah, the grays, what we're watching are the grays disappearing.

1:13:39 You know, the middle grounds disappearing. I mean, look at it even politically. You know, the middle grounds disappearing. You know, the Democratic Party's becoming, you have the socialists and going to radicalism, you know, and... You know, you even have some on the right who are going extreme with anti-Semitism. They agree with that about being against Israel. That's the two extremes. But you're watching it. The culture which once considered itself, you know, we grew up in a culture that was considered Christian. Well, now everybody said it, but it's kind of gray because everybody said it. Now it's not. The dark is darker, real anti-Christian and pagan, and the light's got to get brighter. We have to get brighter. You know, the dark's getting darker. We have to get brighter. The middle ground, the grays are disappearing. Right.

1:14:20 I think that what I'm sensing is God's calling the question, who are you for? Yeah. Right. There's no way. You've got to serve somebody. It's going to be the devil or the Lord. Well, there it is. His timely book, The Altar of Pergamon, The Mystery of the Dark Angel and the Future of the World. Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has done it again. Ten New York Times bestsellers. Clearly. This will be his 11th. And as Jonathan said, this is a book that you must don't pass, go collect 200 bucks, go straight. Get your hand on this book for yourself and for your family members, because it is that significant. It is that relevant to a time such as this that we're now living.

1:15:02 All these questions that you have in mind about the culture, And what's going on? I mean, you even have the vice president here recently saying that, you know, we could be very well living in the last days. Billy Graham, before his passing, when he was asked about these being the last days, he says, oh, no, these are the last of the last days. So the signs are here. And just as been said, as in the days of Noah, what was happening in the days of Noah? It was business as usual. You know, things were happening, but people were not aware because they weren't aware spiritually. And that's what is needed right now. If you're looking at the world through a temporal perspective, you're going to buy into the lies, the deception, and the evil, dare I say.

1:15:45 Because as we were talking with Jonathan, he agreed that the grays have been cleared out. It really is coming down to black and white. And you need to decide, are you going to be for God or against God? Are you for good or are you for evil? And I know, you know, in your lifetime, you've heard this come up from time and time again. Gosh, I remember in the 60s when I was growing up, there was, you know, the music of the day, you know, all the protest music because of Vietnam. And you remember the Eve of Destruction, Barry Maguire? And it just seemed like there was so much there. And it's interesting because I was thinking about that. And I thought, where is the music today that would give us any kind of warning?

1:16:26 You notice how quiet it is? Even movies, you know, they've been kind of blunted. It seems to be more a delivering of amusement, things that would distract us and blind us from, you know, the spiritual reality of what's happening. And that is that, you know, we know this, you know, we're not here for the long haul. You know, there is a beginning and there is an end in this present life. The question is, after this, where are you going to be? Do you want to be with God or without God? God gives us the free will to make that choice. He loves us enough that he gives us that authority, you know, to choose who you want to serve. And you're going to serve somebody. You right now, even you're serving somebody and you just have to pause and think about, you know, who are you serving? And it's clear that if you're not serving God, then you might analyze, you might take a close look at how life really is. And it might be tough if you're that kind of individual where right now everything's hunky-dory, you're making good money, you got a balance on your checkbook and your 401k looks good. You're like that rich man who came to Jesus and said, what do I need to do to earn the kingdom of heaven? He said, well, keep the laws. Well, I've done that. I've kept the laws from birth. I've done all that. What else can I do? And Jesus said, sell everything. In other words, let go of the temporal things of this world and

1:17:58 focus on eternity. Pick up your cross and follow me, he said. And the young man went away with his head down and a bit depressed because he realized when Jesus called that question that he didn't want to do that. And, you know, and this is kind of where we are, is that, you know, when you come to that point of decision, are you willing to pick up your cross? I mean, it's easy to talk about it. Oh, yeah, pick up your cross and follow Jesus, that sounds good, you know, when you're just talking about it, but when you actually have to do it, and this is where we are right now, and this is what Jonathan has so brilliantly brought out in this story within a story, you know, much like if you remember the Harbinger, you had this allegory wrapped into the message that was real, and here, don't get fooled. I mean, yes, it's a quick read. It adds some, I guess, a little bit of novelty and interest. And it reads very quickly, this altar of Pergamon. But in the story, within that story, you know, they're undeniable facts. I say undeniable because, again, if you don't have spiritual eyes, if you don't have a spiritual understanding, you know, it's just, okay, you might as well read a romance novel. But for those of us whose eyes are open, and I pray that your eyes would be open, even if right now they're not, I pray that when you get this book that your eyes would be open and that God Almighty would give

1:19:29 you the unction and the Holy Spirit to open up your eyes and open up your channels of belief so you could see what's happening in this world and how crazy it is. And maybe it's not right there in your zip code. Maybe it's just, you know, it might be in a city somewhere else nearby, but you think, hey, it's never going to happen here. But the fact is, is the influences, even though you may think a lot of this stuff is happening in Europe and Berlin, no, you can see what's happening and how it was manifested, even as Jonathan explained and gave us a little bit of insight and helped us remember what happened with Barack Obama. So get your hands on the book. It's available now, The Altar of Pergamon, The Mystery of the Dark Angel and the Future of the World by Jonathan Cahn.

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1:24:23 We're able to get into some extra detail here. Is that. With things lining up right now, with what's going on in Iran, and you've got this, you know, this other trinity going on, Iran, China, and Russia, and we know that Israel will be attacked from the north. How is that playing? Is there a connection here? with the throne of Satan and these three countries moving on Israel? Well, there is in a few ways. I mean, interesting. First of all, okay, you mentioned Russia and you mentioned China. Okay, China is still under this darkness that is linked to the altar of communism.

1:25:07 Right. Russia was, and Russia, this power, was used in this against the Jewish people. Iran is an ancient nation. that the Bible says will be an enemy of Israel in the last days. When it talks about in Ezekiel 38 and 39, there's going to be an invasion and Iran is going to be, you know, Iran has never directly been at war with Israel directly until these last few years. Never happened. We crossed a prophetic line. And the nations that the Bible says are going to be part of that attack on Israel, for the first time, they were all part of something together, an attack, which they were all linked to October 7th. They funded it, they trained it, all of them. So you're seeing that all line up and Ezekiel 38 and 39 leads up to, you know, really revelation. I mean, what you see, this comes before Armageddon.

1:25:56 This is something before that, but it leads up to it. And when you read also, the interesting thing is when you read Ezekiel 38 and 39, what comes right after it? Ezekiel 40 is about the building of the temple. So every Jewish person, when this thing happens, when Ezekiel 38 and 39 is fulfilled, every Jewish person in the world is going to be reading Ezekiel 38 and 39. And then the next chapter says, okay, now rebuild the temple. So they're going to rebuild the temple. You know, now an interesting thing about this is, you know, at the end, it's all, the final war is, the final spot is the temple. I mean, because that's, think about that. We started at the beginning with the devil saying, I will lift up my throne. I'll sit on the mountain of the assembly. That's the temple. Where was God enthroned on earth?

1:26:43 He was enthroned on the temple mount. I mean, that was the place. So the devil wants that. Okay. Yeah. So it's interesting. That's where God has placed his name and his word. Yes. Yes. And that is where the Lord Messiah, Jesus is going to rule, going to reign from. So, yeah. And so therefore it's interesting because when you say, because the altar of Pergamon is linked to that mystery from the beginning, the devil tried to put up that altar of Zeus. Then, then, then his friend built the altar of Pergamon. And now we got the altar of Pergamon with all these evil things trying to against Israel. Right. And then the antichrist, you know, Now the Antichrist is going to defile that temple. He's going to be an abomination. Now it's interesting. This is where I've never said this ever before. The amazing thing, and Bill, this is just the last few days. I don't know what I put in the book, but I'm looking at the abomination, the first one that was the shadow, which is what happened in Daniel, which happened with Hanukkah. It wasn't even an idol.

1:27:41 It was the altar of Zeus, which then becomes the altar of Pergamon, Abomination, you know, could this be linked to that final desecration? You know, the temple, everything we're talking about, because it is there. And I told you the Antichrist will undoubtedly have possession of the throne of Satan. And the other thing is, if you go on the Temple Mount today and you look and write what's over where God's throne was, it's the Dome of the Rock. The Dome of the Rock. Yeah, right. But if you look at the Dome of the Rock and you look at the marble, the pieces that they put in there, they didn't mean this. The marble forms a very clear, you're looking at it, it's the face of Satan staring at you with horns, with everything, right on there. You know, he said, I will put my throne, I will sit where the Most High sits. Amazing. It's true.

1:28:33 And the entire history of the world has been affected by it, and it will be affected. But let me just, let me bring it to a good thing. Well, let me... just say this. It's interesting because you talk about, he says he's going to sit where the Most High sits. Well, now we've gone from when he was kicked out of heaven, he exalted himself five times and wanted to be above God. Now he's willing to compromise and say, I want to be as God, and I will sit at the same level as God. Yes. If I'm reading that and hearing that correctly. Yeah, yeah. What did he say he's going to exalt? His throne. Yes. Throne of Satan. Yes. And so to bring this home, you know, listen, every book of mine ends with hope and ends with a charge. And here's the thing. Listen, this is why I'm also praying that people watching, don't just get it for yourself.

1:29:17 Get it for people in your life who need to be saved. Because they're going to be drawn into it. It's a story. But it's going to show how real God is, how real his word is, and then how we have to get saved. Because it all goes right to salvation. Right on. Okay, so the thing is this. Listen, if God, if the enemy is real, and the devil is very real, look, it's almost destroyed the world. I mean, it's not real. Then God is even more real. And it means every word of the Bible. Look, this whole thing comes from Revelation where it talks about this. And look what it reveals, how incredible the word of God is. You know, it's real. Every promise is real. And, you know, the devil's fighting God because, you know, he has his own altar because he hates God's altar. You know what God's altar is? The cross. It doesn't take life. He gives life. You know, it's our beautiful God who gives us life. That's where we've got to come to. That's what overcomes the devil. And it says they will overcome him by the blood of the Lamb, you know. And remember, the devil's been trying to destroy Israel for over thousands of years, but all those powers are gone. But Israel still lives because God lives, because Messiah lives, and we're going to live. We prevail, we win in the end, but be strong. The fight is real, but if you fight, you're going to win. So if I could just say, listen, I just say, it should be, the altar program is just coming out now, but you'll get it anywhere if they go online. Now, Amazon, anywhere, it's going to be there.

1:30:37 If you go to any bookstore in a moment, it's going to be there. But again, think about people in your life who need to get saved. There's a story there. It's a thriller. But there's so much more. Even though Bill is so gracious, he gives me the time to get into all these things, we just touch the surface. There's so much more to this mystery. Right, exactly. As you said, the book reveals, what, over 200 mysteries? We counted about 200 mysteries. Wow. Like I said, put on your seatbelt and your crash helmet. Rabbi is always an honor. It looks like this. Yes. Yeah, it looks like this. The mystery of the dark angel. So if you see that anywhere, you got it.

1:31:17 Yeah, so you want to run to it. Run to it. Get your hands on it. Get your neighbor. Run with your neighbor, your family members, because this is going to all these things that are happening. Because the number one question, Rabbi, the number one question I get, Is God judging us? Yeah, well, we are certainly in danger of judgment and under that. And as any nation that has been so blessed as America has been, we've been blessed for as much as we follow God and as much as we blessed Israel or the Jewish people, that's a law. But if we've turned away, we're turning away from one and now we're in danger of turning away from the other, all bets are off. So yeah, and he also judges us also correctively too, because in the sense that he allows things to happen to try to pull us back.

1:32:03 That's what he did with this. Exactly. Bring us back. So there is already that happening. You know, things are, everybody senses things are not right. Everybody senses it's not like it was. Things are not right. There's something brewing and there's something not right. Cause when you take God out, it's never going to be right. So he allows it in his mercy to call us back only when there's no more hope. That's it. You know? So yeah, we need revival. Right. Amen. Uh, preceded by repentance because we had. To know you can't have revival without repentance. Exactly rabbi jonathan khan the book the altar of pergamon the mystery of the dark angel and the future of the world rabbi always thank you so much god bless. You thank you bill always always. A joy thank you Everything is expensive right now. Gas, food, you name it. You're spending more. You are making the same or less money. So what do you do? You rack up credit card debt. That's what you do. It's not your fault. It's the economy. And guess what? If you rack up too much credit card debt like some of us, you can't pay your bills. Then the credit card companies, as nice as they are, start hounding you for money. Then you start your downward spiral. 800-284-1349 800-284-1349 800-284-1349.

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1:39:01 Just depending on the brand depends on the level of inclusivity. With Scenic being truly all-inclusive and Emerald having some of our great comforts included. Well, when you're facing a situation and you're booking on a short notice, because some people are going, oh, maybe, you know, is it too late for me to book something on this Labor Day weekend? Because here it is, you know, it's Friday, we got the weekend coming in, and you're saying, hey, look, just relax, you know. But when it comes to prioritizing, what's the first step they should take? Well, of course, the sooner you want to travel, there's some things you're going to have to think about in terms of give and take. Because, of course, there's a lot less availability, so closer in. So, again, this comes back to if you missed out, don't miss the next big trip opportunity and start planning early. But it is a great time to think of now for those things.

1:39:54 You have to balance, of course, how you're going to get there. Is this something that's going to be domestic or is it something you have to go internationally? A lot of our trips are international trips that you have to travel to Europe or other parts of the world. And so you have to factor in being able to get there, the number of hours or sometimes days, because depending on the destination, you may have to travel for a full day to get there. And then more importantly, because there's limited availability, you may not always have the access you want to the type of room that you want. So maybe you were dead set on getting perhaps a balcony or a veranda suite, but they only have maybe a junior suite. Or maybe they only have a Swanview room, which only has a window on our river ships, as an example. So with it, yes, there are opportunities close in, but there is going to be some limitations to what you can or cannot do because, of course, waiting until the last minute. That being said... Um, you know, it's, you, we think December's around the corner, there's still time and there's still some availability in those things. So if you want to make sure that the November, December timeframe, you want to travel it, the time is now because it's going to be here before you know it. And you still have some, some chances to not only take the opportunity to book what you want, but also take advantage of, of some availability between your cabin or a stateroom type.

1:41:06 As well as access to some of the promotions available. Well, we're talking with Robert Castro, the vice president for scenic grips, USA and Latin America. Robert, flexibility, huh? Flexibility can help, especially in last minute situations, right? So the more flexible you are, maybe that opens up some dates and destinations and some options, right? Indeed, the flexibility as you're thinking of last minute travel, you may think of, okay, I'm going to travel from Sunday to Sunday. There may not be something available, but you know what, maybe there's a Tuesday to Tuesday situation. Sometimes you have to think outside of the box because we think very linearly. My week works from Sunday to Sunday, but working with either your travel advisor or calling one of our personal travel concierges, to look and see, okay, what are the options available in terms of sail dates?

1:41:51 We have sailings going out almost every day. And that may also open up access to you to be able to travel on those days that have maybe a more favorable airfare to get to these destinations. Right. So how do you find these experiences that still feel special, even when the trip comes together at the last. Minute, Robert? Well, I think you have to look at also the operator. So thankfully for us, all our cruises do provide whether it's on the Emerald brand or the Scenic brand, they provide a number of unique opportunities for guests to enjoy. And I think we have to satisfy a few things on a trip. First and foremost, you're going on vacation. So what's the number one thing you're doing on vacation? You're breaking the norm. You want to relax. You want to disconnect. And so that is paramount to all that we do. Secondly, of course, is what experiences are you going to have? Thankfully, at Scenic Group, we pride ourselves on the experiences we provide our guests. From the culinary perspective, where they do, we do a lot of local sourcing.

1:42:48 On a river ship, for example, you will see that a lot of times we provide even an experience for guests to go shopping with the chef to see what is in season. And that makes its way on board and you see it later that night on the menu. And then, of course, we get down to what are you going to experience once you arrive at the destination? Being able to arrive by a river ship and even, of course, our intimate yachts that allow you access to ports that are not easily accessible by the larger ships. It's being able to get to the center of town, to the center of the heart of the city. And more importantly, it's what activities are there there. There's a number of opportunities, whether it's your traditional motor coach tour where you go on a tour bus, you reach a destination, you may visit a historical landmark. There's also a number of walking tours that allow you to go experience it firsthand, walking from place to place in the city. And then, of course, there's also a level of flexibility. Our ships have bikes and e-bikes you can check out to go exploring on your own. So a level of activity that you want, you can definitely manage there. And more importantly, that allows you time to breathe and enjoy it. There's so much hustle and bustle. Thankfully, because of the intimate nature of our ships, you're not worried about like, oh my God, I have to move with the crowd. No, you know, at our largest, our largest Emerald River ship is 180 guests. Our scenic yacht is 220 guests. When Scenic Icon comes online, it'll be 270. So this is not hordes of people. This is small intimate groups. And especially if you're traveling with friends, you have your little cluster, you make your travel friends on board. You get to hang out at the lounge. Maybe you're sitting in the

1:44:20 sun deck. getting the views. I mean, I think one of the coolest experiences that we have to offer, and that's on both brands, is that we have, when you're standing on the Danube, between Durstein and Melk. So Melk has this beautiful abbey that's been, you know, carefully kept and restored for so many years. And you may arrive in Melk in the morning and go to the abbey, see the wonderful tour. Again, it's iconic Europe, very, you know, picture postcard. And then you get back on board and you have one of two options. You can either stay on board and either from the view from your room or stay on the, on the sky deck and sail along the Danube on the way to Durstein. But some folks actually make it an excursion and they get on the e-bikes and they bike to Durstein and they meet. Oh, wow.

1:45:06 That's great. They can do that. Really experiencing Europe in that very, you know, it's a very structured manner, but that's the ability to be able to do that. And we take care of all those details for you. You're not worried about like, do I need to book at something extra? We have those things for you. Your cruise director takes care of those things. On the flip side, if you're on one of our yachts, you could have a morning excursion that day. It could be maybe Saint-Tropez or maybe you're in the Caribbean. But then, you know what, in the afternoon, they deploy the marina and you're enjoying the marina in all its splendor. It's like your own private yacht with 99 of your closest friends that you have on board and really living the life because, again, Part of being on vacation is we're so over-programmed between work, school, taking care of family, kids, grandkids, relatives, go to the doctor, make sure all those things are going on that sometimes these vacations are more necessary than we think because we have to break the routine. We have to recharge. And it's really what you want to consider your vacation ROI because we're asking of you of your two most important assets, time and, of course, your investment.

1:46:10 But vacation ROI is the one investment you're going to get so much more out of because when you go to your vacation, the whole point is that you come back a more rejuvenated, more recharged person. It's the true luxury. A lot of people look at luxury in many different aspects. It could be marble bathrooms. It could be Swarovski crystal chandeliers. But imagine the luxury, especially in the busy day-to-day that so many Americans have of being able to have that moment to sit and have your coffee in the balcony of your room, Your phone is not ringing. You're not checking your email. You're just enjoying the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Can't you do that? I mean, can't you just give yourself the gift of that kind of decompression and relaxation?

1:46:54 You know, I got to tell you, Robert, you know, for many years, I was so type A driven. I used to tell people, I haven't been on vacation for eight years. And what a ridiculous thing. I thought about it because when I started going back and like you said, one of the smartest things was, you know, planning vacations, you know, two, three times out, just like you suggested. That's great, you know, and why not? Because it gets on the calendar, and guess what? Because your calendar will get filled up from other things. Super fast. Right? So, well, as we wrap things up, Robert, again, these are great ideas. How can they be in touch? Very easy. You can visit our websites. You can visit scenic.cruises or emerald.cruises. We have a very simple URL to follow.

1:47:36 And in there you could check out all our itineraries. We have a great combination of river cruises and not just European river cruises. We also have some great cruises in Asia. Not limited to just the Mekong, we're now also on the Scenic brand. We are going to start sailing in India on the Huli River, which is pretty cool. And then, of course, we have our beautiful ocean yachts. And we also have a selection of land tours available that, again, for those folks that may not be ready to go on a cruise or want to try a more curated land experience, we do have those available as well. And then, thankfully, because we are celebrating our 40th year this year, which we're quite. Excited about as organizations, We. Do know all the places we go. We also know where all our ships and all our tours are, and you could actually, if you see a cruise and a tour that you like there's uh quite a number of combinations you could do where you could do some back-to-back cruises or you could do a river cruise and a yacht cruise combined or you could do a river land uh and um ocean cruise all together so uh the possibilities are really endless and You know, there's nothing wrong with thinking of, okay, the next three vacations, or if you have the time and you have the resources, especially with our connectivity with having Starlink on board, you could plan to be away for 30 days and really never miss a beat because you'll be connected back home, but really have all the details taken care of.

1:48:55 Don't tease me, Robert. I could do the radio show, you know, from the ship or something. You totally can. I did a WhatsApp call with my entire family. So it was 10 people on a video WhatsApp call from the premier channel in Antarctica. Yeah. And everyone was there fully connected with me and experiencing it all the time. So you can be as close to anyone as long as you have your device. But more importantly, you can sit on the device and be present in the place while you're on vacation. Robert Castro, thank you for being with us. He's the vice president for Scenic Group USA and Latin America. Have a great day. We'll see you on the. Boat, huh? For sure. We'd love to have you on board. You got it. Every 40 seconds, a child disappears. That's 2,000 children every single day. Find the Children is a non-profit organization fighting to bring them home. But we can't do it without you.

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