The Bill Martinez Show 09 03 26

0:00 Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now, Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning. How you doing? It's six minutes after the top of the hour. Bill Martinez here. We got Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike, how we doing? Good. Good to be with you, Bill. Good to catch up on some things. The saga of the Trump ballroom. continues. And of course, they probably hate the fact that I said Trump in ballroom in the same sentence. I mean, it just, it won't end. And this, as I've said before, this, in any other administration, this would have been just a side note. Wouldn't have attracted attention.

0:42 It would have been celebrated. Construction continues on the new, brand new, beautiful ballroom. That would have been it. But because, of course, it's Donald Trump and because There's just been the weaponization and legal lawfare against everything and anything that he does, any and all of his executive actions. It becomes way blown out of proportion. This is something that's necessary that the White House needs. We know this because they've been reduced to having events for decades. They've had events, international diplomatic events intense on the White House lawn. which really doesn't make a lot of sense from a security perspective in the. Era of drone. Especially with drone warfare now in play, right? Right. It's not a secure site. You need something. You need a hard, secure location that they can host these sorts of high-profile events at. And so Donald Trump made the– and he's a builder. He took the reasonable measure to decide he was going to put a nice ballroom, reasonable.

1:35 And he's also going to– since there was going to be massive construction, they were going to beef up the security apparatus under the White House. So there's a secure location that the president and others can evacuate to or vacate to in the event of a national emergency. Right. Nonetheless, this was litigated. This was a lawsuit. The most specious standing analysis was done to somehow concluding that an individual who who was part of a member of a historic trust, which, by the way. is just a euphemism for a wealthy NGO, exempt organization with tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars in reserves, whose sole purpose appears to be to make wage lawfare against the president of the United States. And that's what you see over and over again. And keep in mind, I'm someone who is part of an NGO. I'm an attorney at an exempt organization. So I can see how this works from the inside. You have these groups that are just waging this and are funding this. And yet you have a D.C. court, a district court, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and four justices of the Supreme Court. Now, we saw this. Four justices, including John Roberts, conclude that they would have stopped construction on this. And they completely washed over a simple threshold question that all courts have to ask themselves when they entertain a lawsuit, when a lawsuit is filed. And that is whether the party's bringing the lawsuit, the party or parties bringing the lawsuit, In other words, have they suffered an injury in fact?

3:06 Right. And I defy you to convince me that somebody whose view of the East Wing of the White House is so offended to the point where they have suffered an acute injury that justifies injury. a multimillion-dollar lawsuit being brought all the way to the United States Supreme Court to stop the construction of something that the chief executive of the United States has decided is necessary for security purposes. What does it say about the legal system, Mike, that's something so academic that you probably learned in your first semester of law school that finds its way to the Supreme Court? What does that say about the whole judicial process right now?

3:49 I mean, that's a deep sigh for me because it's just incredibly disappointing that you would have this threshold issue. And keep in mind, I spend days, weeks trying to ensure that any lawsuits have sufficient standing. In other words, does this when conservatives bring lawsuits in cases so often, you know, I hear this over and over again. Well, I want to sue because this state law is, you know, it allows noncitizens to vote. or doesn't properly secure my right to vote, or the structure of my state's election system is such that they don't have sufficient controls in place to ensure that ineligible voters aren't casting votes. Can I sue? I'm worried that my vote is being diluted, the value of my vote, because people who are ineligible are casting ballots, or non-citizens are in the voter rolls.

4:39 And I have to answer these questions. I have to say, well, there's not this generalized standing principle. You can't have this generalized injury. You have to have the cognizable injury in fact. And it drives me crazy that I have to answer those questions that way, but I do. But how do you determine that? Because usually the injury doesn't occur until post-election. And then you have to have the evidence to be able to demonstrate that there was, you know, said infringement upon that one vote. And then it's too late, right? Right. Yeah. And to the court's credit, there's been a little bit of a loosening in that. In the boss decision last term, they actually concluded that a candidate If you're a candidate, you can actually sue proactively. But a generalized citizen, you know, can't sue because, well.

5:22 Wait a minute. I know my vote in the November election is going to be devalued because I know for at least I should be, you know, at least as a facially that there's going to be people who are ineligible who are going to be casting ballots. And I want to file a lawsuit because I want to be able to prove to a jury that. by a preponderance of evidence, that that's going to be the case. And I want to be able to conduct discovery. And I want to be able to look into this and subpoena the system and pull the curtain back. No, no, no. There's not this generalized voter standing. So they're so quick to say that. Yet, on the other side of the ledger, if it's against a Donald Trump construction or a Donald Trump executive action, we can say, oh, wait, wait a second. My view of the East Wing of the White House is offended, which is entirely subjective in and of itself.

6:07 That's sufficient evidence for both a district court and a circuit court and four justices. Four justices. Keep in mind now, I think you asked the question why. And I think that their arguments were that he doesn't have any kind of legal authority to do this and that they were so offended by his lack of legal authority to do this that they were able to overcome. Their standing issues. But again, Standing is a threshold necessary issue that you have to resolve before you can entertain a lawsuit. It's the very first question the court asks itself. You don't even get to the merits of the case until you overcome standing. And again, standing, injury in fact, redressability and traceability. Traceability, you have to be able to trace the injury you suffered to the party that you're doing. And then redressability, the court actually has to have statutory legal constitutional power to actually redress your purported injury.

7:01 Well, Michael, how can how can they say that Donald Trump isn't legally authorized? I mean, his number one job is national security. That's why I take issue with that as well. Right. Again, and that's why it's kind of surprising with the chief justice, because so in a lot of cases he's understood, you know, immigration cases come to mind, for example. He said, look, the plenary authority of the executive is to determine national security. We're not going to infringe on that. And this is an executive action taken on executive land, you know, executive property. This is the executive mansion. So we're going to defer to his findings there. And again, it's not it's a necessary it's necessary in and of itself. We know that this is a these are legitimate threats that the president United States faces. Keep in mind, and we lose track of this. The fact that there was an assassination attempt at a ballroom a couple of months ago.

7:52 Right down the street. So, OK, wait a minute. Let's not have the president of the United States be in these to the extent possible that we can control it. Doesn't it make sense to have a big ballroom on a secure White House grounds so that the president can have these events there instead of having to be transported and shut down the city and inhale at the Hilton? and shut down the streets around the city and have all these security checkpoints and then have some lunatic be able to still run through and get almost, you know, get, you know, within a few feet of the ballroom. What if he had, you know, what if that guy was a suicide bomber, right? What if he were a suicide bomber? He could, he got, he got through, he kind of got through the initial security checkpoint, the security, the secret service tackled him. But what if he had a bomb strapped to himself? Again, what if there's a drone? It's like, we can just, we can go down this, this road of hypotheticals you know, until we're blue in the face. But they're all, the thing is, they're all legitimate threats. We're not just making this up. So you would think there would be some deference to that.

8:47 Yeah, you would think. I mean, and the other thing, oh yeah, by the way, this construction is being privately done and paid for. No taxpayer money is being used on this. I can't imagine that any future Democratic president, if there would be one, would not be grateful for this ballroom. We got to go to quick break. We've got more from Mike O'Neill after this. Stay with us. Millions of people of all ages have speech, language or hearing difficulties. A new national poll finds that communication breakdowns frequently occur between caregivers and the people in their care, causing an array of potentially serious problems. U.S. Caregivers of adults with communication difficulties were polled. The American Speech-Language Hearing Association, ASHA, commissioned the poll, and YouGov conducted it.

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14:16 That's the other kind of final irony in this situation. in this saga is the fact that he's not even, Donald Trump's going to use it, what, for a few months, maybe, you know, maybe, maybe six or seven months. I don't even know what the timeline is. Yeah. He might barely get a ribbon cutting ceremony. Right. Exactly. He's going to be able to have a couple of events there and then it's going to be for whoever's next in line. And it's just, it's, it's, it's absurd on its face, but it really is. It's really, it's really kind of emblematic of the larger issue that we all, that we consistently talk about here. And this is, this is unceasing law. And you're like, well, why would we waste so much time talking about the ballroom? It's not necessarily just the ballroom. It's the larger issues, the standing issue, the fact. Well, every, everything is so anti-Trump. It's all TDS. I mean, whether, you know, everything, this E.G. Carroll case, I mean, it's absurd.

15:04 All the stuff that the New York district attorney had to do and all this pretzel legal logic that they came to in order to do this along with the judge. You know, it's, It's getting exhausting that, and here it is, this president is in the middle of navigating a peaceful settlement in the Middle East that could be absolutely historic. And you've got Democrats, you've got the mainstream media, everybody siding with the enemy. And they are, in fact, extending, they're extending the conflict because of all the propaganda and the narrative that they're throwing out there. And the American people are going to vote for these guys. for doing that, all for the sake of, you know, politics. They're putting us in additional and unnecessary danger because the longer this carries out, you've got the increased risk of American soldiers, you know, becoming casualties, Mike.

16:00 Yeah, certainly it behooves us to end this as quickly and efficiently as possible in a manner that's secure for the American people and the world. And I do think, I mean, just from my limited reading on this, it seems like it's kind of getting lost in the fact that we're kind of choking out the Iranian regime, right? I think that kind of the siege mentality that we've kind of adopted now, and again, it's kind of gotten hot in the past few days, has been effective. And the fact that you can starve out this regime. I do get frustrated with the standard that you see so often is that Iran responds. And it's like, you're trying to equate, you would think like reading about this, it's like the Soviet Union circa 1982 versus the united states like iran iran the united states are not equals in.

16:47 This right not even close right not even. Close and trying to bring up and that's what they count on and to your point i think that's what that's what the regime counts on is aid and comfort given it's like if you bring us up to it we only have to respond and you're like oh my god okay so it's just i i think the strategy seems to be working now i do i would like to see you know it resolved in time for elections. But, you know, I think it'd be good to see also gas prices, and they are going down, I've noticed, generally speaking, below $ 4 a gallon in my area. So that's good. I'd like to see the economy continue to trudge up. At some point- You know, Mike, regarding gas prices, you know, when the Democrats were in charge, it was always kind of a hope and a prayer. You know, you keep seeing Obama's poster, you know, hope, you know, and it was always about hope, but there was never really any backup to that hope. It was just, It was an empty aspiration. At least with Trump, you're saying, OK, look what he did in Venezuela. Look what's lined up here.

17:47 Look at $ 19 trillion in foreign investment coming, businesses, manufacturing, jobs coming back to the country. I mean, you start seeing this supply chain that is coming here. It's not like somebody, you know, like Barack Obama getting in front of a microphone and and charming people like a snake charmer. And he has no substance. He just, you know, he's got a whistle. That's it, you know? And people, oh yeah, that's cool. Let's all clap and everything like that. A fundamental transformation of America. Oh yeah, great idea. What the heck does that mean? You know? Yeah, affordable health care. What does that mean? You can keep your same diet. I don't know what that means. Until you realize what it means, it was bupkis. It was absolutely empty. You hear, what's your name from Wendy's, Miss Claire? Where's the beef? And that's what you keep asking about anything that has to do with the Democrats and this whole situation. But getting back to the Trump derangement syndrome, it's not just about Trump. It's about anything conservative, anything that connects with the founding values of this country.

18:50 I mean, what came out this past week was, you know, the latest revelation about the FBI's infamous infamous Richmond memo scandal. And this is something that Christopher Wray lied about repeatedly. And this was an attack, if you remember, about conservative Catholic churches. Now, this whistleblower leaked to the Richmond memo to members of Congress. Now, the FBI, when that happened, the FBI, FBI, mind you, they go into full damage control. That was when Christopher Wray tells Congress, oh, no, there's nothing there. You know, it's it's you know, it's a nothing burger in the whole deal. Well, the fact of the matter was it was more than it was a burger burger. You know, I think it's it's and you continue to see this. And I don't think it gets enough discussion.

19:35 And I'm glad you raise these these points because it really bears discussion. is the ideologically driven agenda of the Obama administration and then Biden part two, you know, Biden, and Biden, you can just say Biden, Obama part three, right? Obama chapter three, Obama chapter three, the Biden administration was four years of Obama running the country, basically, and his people running the country. Let's just be very clear about this. Biden was not in charge of anything for four years. It was Obama and his radical ilk who were running the country without accountability, by the way, because they could operate from behind the scenes. The fact that The extent to which they had weaponized the justice system against traditional religious Christians in this country is important. And how it was weaponized and driven to suppress religious belief and targeted is beyond the pale. The fact that you had organized structures, the most powerful law enforcement branches in this country who were organized to attack and destroy traditional Christian principles and traditional Christian values is indisputable. And I think the more you talk about it, accountability is one thing. At least the fact that we're talking about it to be aware of what's happened is clear. At the point, I remember when, and we did this at Landmark, remember when they directed the U.S. attorneys, Merrick Garland directed the U.S. attorneys to investigate school board, people who spoke up at school board.

20:58 Meetings at the behest of it. It was absurd on its face. And yet you saw this weaponization of this to suppress speech and religious practices of it. And then keep in mind is, The Don Lemon, like, feels like he could go into a church while people are actively worshiping and interrupt that. If that had been a conservative who'd gone in. Oh, forget it. Forget it. You can't even have conservatives outside a pregnancy center. Are you kidding me? Well, they were targeted, too. Exactly. Well, of course. I mean, and they were praying. They were just outside praying. You know, they weren't blocking any entrances. And look at what kind of havoc and how people, you know, were arrested and, and, uh, you know, you've got the lawfare going against them. You know, I got, I got to say this, the irony about the, in this particular case, in this memo, it was targeting Catholics specifically. And I'm thinking, how does that connection happen with Joe Biden? Supposedly, you know, to your point, here's Joe Biden, the president.

21:49 Oh yeah. He's a practicing Catholic. It is funny because when you're talking about this, I keep thinking to myself, um, is that a lot of these law enforcement agencies in the past were kind of filled with old school Catholics from the Northeast. I mean, the FBI kind of was no, I mean, I don't, I come from a lineage of the secret service where I had my father and my cousin were both secret service agents. And my name is O'Neill and obviously I'm Catholic. And there were a lot of, there were a lot of O's or something. Irish Catholics kind of populated these law enforcement agencies, these federal law enforcement agencies, you know, obviously Irish and police, et cetera, it goes hand in glove. It's kind of sad to see that. It's funny to see who's populated now these traditional law enforcement agencies to the point where this sort of thing can be acceptable.

22:41 If I were sitting as an FBI agent or a senior agent in one of these law enforcement agencies, I would say, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute here. We got to see where we're going before we're going to start targeting Christians or Catholics for that matter. And it's sad to see that these agencies have been so debased to the point where they go by doing things like this. Well, this is the endemic problem that we have, a foundational principle issue that we have in our nation that speaks of corruption and a breakdown in our integrity. If this country is going to be great again, it needs to reestablish these founding principles that we embraced on its foundation.

23:22 And a breakdown of the Christian viewpoint, right? And that's it. When you lose faith, when you lose track or you lose, you take your eye off the ball of the Judeo-Christian ideal and principles, then you just allow whatever to come in. Whatever's vogue at the moment. Oh, we're going to go after these people. We're going to do this. We're going to do this. No, you got to keep your eye on the ball. We're a Judeo-Christian society and country, and we have to continue to hold those ideals and principles alive. above it. And that's what we strive for. And once you move off of that, it becomes anarchy. Well, there's no question about it. And we have to maintain a sacred vigilance, you know, to that end. We got to leave it there. Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal.

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27:40 Hey, good morning. Welcome back. Bill Martinez here along with Dr. Wilfred Rodney, the professor is in the house. Get ready. Take out your notepads. Let's get it on. Hey, I'll tell you, it's just been so interesting with the dismantling of the DSA. I say dismantling. I mean, they're going head forward, but I guess they're more dismantling the Democratic Party because You know, they wanted to come alongside them during the primaries. But now that we're going into the general election, boy, they're taking a couple of steps back. Mother, may I? Well, I mean, we've talked about this before. The Democrats are going to have to figure out what they want to do here. I mean, in the GOP, we have a similar issue with the quote unquote dissident right. But I think the reality is there is that they're far more sort of MAGA types and for that matter, traditional National Review conservatives than there are dissidents.

28:35 So you see these vote margins. And I'll clarify, I don't dislike either guy here, but you see like Byron Donald's 58 percent, Fishback, I. Think 11 or 12. With the Dems, it's a little different because they don't have any built in antibodies for rebellion. Right. Like the whole idea is we are the we are the cool kids that are coming up against everybody's dad that gives her a curfew at 10 p.m. We're representing for minorities. We're representing for immigrants. So when someone comes along and says, well, OK, I'm more of a minority immigrant than you are and I'm a communist, it's really hard for the Democrats to kind of stand up to that. So you've seen a Chevalier won her election. That's a DSA candidate. This guy, Al-Said, he's probably going to, in practice, finish second. But that's a very serious Senate-level DSA candidate.

29:23 Out there in Michigan. They had a couple of them in New York. And I mean, this is already on top of the squad. AOC is a DSA member. Bernie's been a DSA member. Rashida Tlaib is probably to the left of the DSA. So I mean, they're not as invulnerable to the as the right seems to be. And they're going to have to decide, are we the party that favors a welfare state but also is pro-America, which is John Fetterman and Big Jim Clyburn? That's what Democrats always have been. Or are we going to go this crazy back to the 1960s route And I think if they do that, they're going to win in a lot of local areas and marginalize themselves nationally because anyone can trot out those ads showing Mamdani standing in front of Ground Zero anywhere.

30:08 In the country. I don't think that's going to be good for them. Don't you think there's an opportunity here for the Republican Party? I mean, because you got a lot of energy here. And I've been saying, well, they shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Listen to these kids. Listen to what they're saying and quit trying to defend it. with, you know, I guess they don't want to hear the facts. They want to know that you're hearing them and you're feeling their pain. And their pain is real. And it's a result of past policies that have been presented, I'd say mostly by the Democrats, but the Republicans have been part and parcel with it as well. And I hate this both sides kind of argument. But the reality is, is that I think this is an opportunity for the Republicans to come in and say, you know what, I agree with you. You're right. There are some affordability issues.

30:57 There are some things here. But you know what? I need you on my team so that we can come against all this fraud and corruption that's taking place so that we can get this government back on track to do what it was designed to do by our founding fathers. What do you say? Yeah, I'd say I mostly agree with that. I mean, so first of all, one thing you hear a lot, if you do focus groups with business people or with housewives, the way Unified Solutions, my company is starting to do, like, what do you want in politics? What are you looking for? One thing you hear a lot is I just want someone to be sane. Like most people like Trump, but they'll turn on the TV and they'll see these fights between like big Trump and the Democratic D.C. representatives about who they cut down the trees around the Kennedy Center and they're blaming each other. But at a higher level, there constantly seems to be bizarre line stepping going on by the major political parties. And that's something people will really call out. Like they do see the alt right on Facebook and Twitter. they see some of Trump's flamboyant social media posting, and that might irritate them a little.

32:00 And then they go over to the left and they see, well, then Mamdani, the mayor of New York City, is a Muslim communist. Like, okay, I don't want that. So if someone were to, Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance, if someone were to take the core Trump policies and run with them wearing a blue Brooks Brothers suit and not cracking a lot of jokes and just saying things like, I'll get the plane back on track, I think that that person would win with. 60% of the vote. The problem is getting through the primaries for either party. And that's, that's a very serious issue. I mean, candidates that have incredibly high overall support Tulsi Gabbard did for some reason, but those, those people are never going to win a primary race against a Donald Trump or against an anointed democratic candidate. Um, The other thing you said that I agreed with very briefly is, yeah, I think a lot of the socialist energy among young people, and for that matter, a lot of the hard right, we've had enough, deport energy among young people, that's driven by real factors. So I debate a lot online, and I usually win these arguments. But every so often when I'm talking to the young guns, I'll do something like post a market basket and say, part of the problem is that you guys don't know how to cook.

33:12 And people will respond and say, well, no, no, part of it. But it's also like the prices, these foods have tripled between the two political parties over eight years. Like, you don't understand that. You have land. Like, there aren't any stores in town. This is Appalachia. We have a Dollar General. So there really are these issues. The jobs have been outsourced. We've seen, I mean, there's a graphic. The stat's a little bit off. But for a period of about 10 years, 6% of the people hired by the Fortune 500 were white men. So a lot of these guys, that's still, whites are still the majority of the population, 60 plus percent. So a lot of these guys are facing an incredibly contested job market, incredibly contested housing market. And that's what's pushing them in that Bernie Sanders direction.

33:54 And yeah, I think if. The right says things like we're going to deport all illegal immigrants, I don't, most of these people aren't racist in any real sense, but we have a large illegal population. We're going to cut fraud out of these programs. Like Nick Shirley has done some good work here where he's gone around to the largest Medicare biller in three states now. And I mean, I hope he has an armed bodyguard. Yeah, he's got a bodyguard. But even still, yeah, I mean, and look what happened. California passed the Nick Shirley Act. Can you believe that? That's insane. And they're protecting the fraudsters by law. But I do think that this is a major point for the right, because it's always been said by the right, which is kind of the stable dad political bloc, you know, we can't really cut some of these programs.

34:40 Like, what are you going to cut? Social Security, the GI Bill, you can take seniors off their pension fund. We took their money. Like, you couldn't keep your own money and invest it in the stock market. But I think that one loophole we've now found is that probably 40% of the billing for these programs is fraudulent. And that's not evenly distributed around the country. That's not occurring in middle class suburbs mostly. So, I mean, if you, there's no reason Nick Shirley should be alone doing this, right? If you get the New York Times or government department like Doge or J.D. Vance's office on it, and you remove the people from these programs that shouldn't be on them, that's one good way to really reduce costs and get the economy booming. But there have to be practical right-wing solutions like that. Like we're not going to start a new program but we're going to trim this one down by 30%, and then we're going to increase benefits to you, the actual citizen.

35:29 I think that would be quite popular. Well, you look at what happened in Florida. Florida decided to do something about it, and three years in a row, Will, their cost of running their government has gone down. I mean, that's unheard of in a blue state. They can't even imagine that. But it just requires the desire and the commitment to do something about it and be responsible servants of their constituencies. Well, Florida, first of all, I will say dodged a bullet. I mean, you had a race in 2016 between Ron DeSantis and Andrew Gillum that looked like just a race between two ambitious men. Gillum, obviously, a blue Democrat, but nonetheless, a local Black leader, churchman, and well-known investor. But he turned out to be a gay crystal meth user. So, I mean, like, he lost by a quarter percent of a vote. And everyone's like, oh, he's coming for DeSantis next election. This is going to be a tough race for Ron D., And then his opponents founded a motel room with male prostitutes. Anyway, Florida got really lucky there because that would have come out at some point. But the reality is, yeah, these programs, once you identify the probable level of fraud or you identify things you're willing to cut, and there should be some, it's not necessarily hard to streamline these programs. My only point is that government financial savings are not primarily going to come from the sort of stuff like my good buddy Rand Paul will try to have. We spent $ 50 million seeing how chickens react to cocaine so we can think about how

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41:32 Of course, the celebrated author, Taboo 10 Facts You Can Talk About, Lies My Liberal Teacher Taught Me. I guess we're kind of overdue for another book, aren't you? You got one kind of bumbling? Yeah, I think HarperCollins also feels we're a little overdue. I'm like a month and a half late with it. Oh, I shouldn't have brought that up. I'm sorry. No, that's totally fine. But the next book is called Confidently Wronged. And it looks at something that we've both described seeing happen in the markets, which is that in business, people don't take academic predictions seriously at all. The idea is that this is all nonsense. People will say, you know, one month you're supposed to drink wine, one month you're not. That's actually really problematic in that you have whole fields like economics and political science that are supposed to predict war, stock market downturn, so on. But they've consistently missed things, even my field, like the collapse of the Soviet Union.

42:23 So this book looks at why this is. We look at 10 major predictions, like the Club of Rome, the population bomb, more recently the COVID numbers, that were off by just orders of magnitude. And I try to figure out why that's so frequent, why we have a replication crisis. What I basically come to is the idea that in every kind of academic paper, there are two or three models. There's the best case, the likely case, the worst case. The media seems to almost always, about 98% of the time, publicize the worst case, which is 1% likely. So this entire climate of kind of upper middle class fear has been generated around that, where you see things like AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, saying, well, of course, the world's going to end in 12 years.

43:10 And people hear that and believe it. The actual reality is that if we don't stop climate change via a nuke or whatever within 12 years, the planet is definitely going to increase in temperature by one degree. We're not going to be able. To beat one degree over 100 years or whatever it is, but we're not all going to die. So the book looks at these predictions, and one of the core themes is sort of just stop being so afraid. It's not real. It's never what it sounds like. Yeah, it's that fear factor, right? When you write it out, it's false evidence appearing real. And that's the definition of fear here. And of course, the media, because they're selling the headline. They take something like that that can be exaggerated and get people's attention. But it's unfortunate because if you're not discerning and you're not wise enough, then you buy into this hysteria. And what are you doing? Are you smarter or dumber as a result? Thank you very much to the mainstream media.

44:08 Well, I think you're usually dumber as a result of the mainstream media. And that's one of the things in the book, like that's a real problem. Like if you read academic papers and you watch CNN and Fox, Fox is not as bad, but in you read the New York Times, the idea is that you should be getting more intelligent, right? Like you should know what's going to happen. But in fact, you're often. Less likely to accurately evaluate what's going to happen. Like you overhype a crime, at least is still a pretty big risk. But you overhype the risk of crime. And more than that, you overhype the risk. Of very tiny, minor threats out there. And that's a pattern that incorporates not just climate change, but I can probably think of 10 of these off the top of my head. I mean, killer bees and the great northerly migration, right? I mean, global cooling before global warming. The hole in the ozone layer that made your girl in high school throw her hairspray away.

45:01 Y2K. I mean, all the heterosexuals were going to get AIDS. I remember one of my coaches, and this might have done some good for us, but panicked everyone with the idea of, you know, get too intimate with your girlfriend. There's this new killer disease. And you now understand that if you're a white or black heterosexual male in the Midwest, you have a one in multiple thousands chance of catching HIV in your life. But all these panics came down the pike and they were all wrong. I guess the point is, you know, watch more carefully, but it also is Media sources and, yes, academic sources, including me, need to do a better job of conveying the truth. You're not just trying to get grant money by scaring people.

45:42 But that's become this huge boogaloo in the corner of the room, and it's pretty problematic. Well, and as you said, and I'm glad you brought that up because I was going to say grant money plays a big part in all this stuff. It influences. I mean, look what we went through with COVID. And you're seeing, I mean, you're going to tell me that Dr. Fauci didn't manipulate grant money to, you know, come up with a kind of conclusions that was supporting his, you know, his theories and his interest. I mean, that's clearly what's come out, I believe. Yeah, there are a bunch of things. There are grants themselves. There's media coverage. There are reasons to promote fear. Like no one writes stories about all the planes that land, right? So, I mean, for a period of about five years, there actually was massive institutional media coverage of plane crashes. And that was one of those things people became very afraid of.

46:31 But again, I mean, I think academics should do better on that. Reporters should do better on that. Flying in a plane is at least somewhat safer than driving even today. But Dr. Fauci in particular has played a big role in multiple scares like this. Like, I looked back to see, I read Michael Fermento's The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS, where he says, look, I mean, you know, treat your girlfriend well, but no, you're not, you're both virgins. You're in high school, like, you're not going to catch HIV from this stuff. But he at one point mentions the panic-mongering head of kind of the AIDS board. Set up by, I think, Bush, and it was Dr. Fauci. So Fauci's been this sort of top American doctor who's really been fond of getting his name in the press.

47:14 For quite a while. Like if you look at bird flu, Fauci, AIDS, Fauci, COVID, Fauci, I think monkeypox was Fauci. So with him kind of stepping down, we'll get to see if the next set of docs are a little more, maybe behind the scenes, a little more willing to be restrained. But he's been a public figure for quite a while. Well, and going back to what you were saying, I mean, the basis of all this is where's the truth? And, you know, it's like when they had the the hearing, the recent congressional hearings with Dr. Fauci, who kept taking the fifth, the Democrats kept circling the wagons and talking about all this great work he did on AIDS, for example. And my best awareness and recall of what he did with AIDS wasn't all that great, but they tried to make it seem like he was, you know, he was a hero, you know, in combating AIDS. And that's not what I remember.

48:09 Yeah, well, one thing that we got very lucky on with kind of Fauci and that media-seeking team there, and I mean, from what I've heard, Fauci is a good in-practice doctor, but he didn't respond well to these crises. That's absolutely correct. One thing we got very lucky. With is that the fatality rate, the IFR, infection fatality rate, for all of these diseases, monkeypox and so on, was much. Lower than we initially thought it was. Like if COVID or HIV had been as infectious as Fauci believed, tens of millions of people would have died because we actually did not respond all that well. With HIV, it's hard to talk about this without really breaking the family show boundaries, but AIDS is not very easily transmissible.

48:50 In the 1990s, I remember the scare pitch that was. Made to young men, and very often- I think this probably would have been like by your coach or by your priest for obvious reasons. But it was sort of like mosquitoes or potential risk carriers, any sex in high school or college with just normal women without many partners. That's a risk. So on down the line, blood transfusions. And look what they said about Magic Johnson, remember? Yeah. And I have my questions about that. I mean, it's... again, I don't know Magic Johnson, but like homosexuality appears to be genetic. A Magic Johnson's son is a very well-known gay model right now. So Magic's whole pitch was I had unprotected heterosexual sex with normal women, nurses in L.A.

49:36 And that's how I got AIDS. Is that true? I don't know if anyone knows, but the risk of transmission of HIV during normal vaginal sex is one in 10,000. Something like that. It's extraordinarily low. Now that's if that person has AIDS, to clarify, like most people don't have AIDS. So this was an isolated disease of, there were specific groups. There was the gay community, There were people who enjoyed out in San Francisco and L.A. basically orchards, like swingers, that kind of thing. And then there were hemophiliacs who required blood transfusions with full penetration of a needle. And those groups were hit very hard. The campaign, though, to paint HIV as a broader risk so we didn't stereotype people, probably just panicked a whole lot of people and cost lives, if anything. What saved us was just that it's fairly hard to get AIDS. And it's the same thing with COVID-19.

50:31 The IFRs from COVID that we were initially getting reflected very sick people that were packed into these hospitals in New York and Chicago. So three or four percent of people are dying. Well, yeah, they're seniors in this horrible environment. The actual IFR for COVID seems to have been around 0.1 or 0.2, which is two or three times the flu. So when that hit the heartland where there was open space, you could take a senior home you started seeing those death totals drop dramatically. And that's where we stayed. So it wasn't, it was medical reality and the normal behavior of ordinary people that saved us. It wasn't the stand six feet apart and that sort of thing.

51:13 Right. Well, this is, you know, there's a lot to be said about the herd mentality, you know, in terms of herd experience, because Dr. Fauci, you know, he specifically said that you know, you couldn't rely on your own immune systems, that it would only last maybe for a couple of weeks. I think I told you in my personal story, after I had gotten COVID, I specifically monitor it. And my T-cell readings were very robust, you know, two and a half years on to three years. So, you know, so it was, and I'm only one experiment. I'm one person's experience here. And I'm saying two to three weeks versus almost three years of, you know, a vital immune system.

52:02 You know, something's not squaring up here, Will. Yeah, well, I think that a part of many panics is that people forget obvious things that sort of they and their father always knew that are clearly correct. So like the idea that you have an immune system and if you already have a disease, you won't get the disease again, goes back to having chicken pox as a kid. It's something everybody knows. And with COVID-19, we were expected to forget that. The idea was, well, we don't know. We don't know if immunity exists. We don't know if herd immunity exists. So take the vaccine. I actually am not as outraged about the vaccine as a lot of people on the right. I think the risks were higher than COVID if you were young, lower than COVID if you were old. But again, bear in mind, the risk of COVID was 0.1 percent. So we certainly shouldn't have mandated that at all.

52:51 But I doubt that. Well, there were lessons to be learned, Will, and hopefully we've learned them. So the next time they try to do this to us, we're just going to say, hell no. And, you know, that's it. We got to leave it there. He's the professor of political science at Kentucky State University and the author of Taboo, 10 Facts You Can't Talk About and Lies My Liberal Teacher Taught Me, Dr. Wilford Riley. Thank you, Will. Take care. Thanks, Bill. We call ourselves ASAP Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket ASAP. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time. You get through right away. No searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines. You know them.

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54:29 Well, good afternoon, America. Glad you could join us. I'm Bill Martinez. We got Dr. George Farid going to be joining us in just a moment. An incredible story as we go back. If you remember, it was several years ago, the start of COVID, when we talked to Dr. Farid, and then he followed up with this incredible book, The Miracle of Imperial Valley. And we're going to talk about that, talk about the implications of the hearing, the committee hearing with Dr. Fauci, because the history is rich. And Dr. Farid was there from the very beginning. He was saving souls and keeping people away from ventilators. And just like I said, an incredible story.

55:09 Dr. George Farid, good to have you with us. God bless you. It's great to be with you, Bill. And thanks for all you do. And it's my privilege. Thank you. Dr. Frey, just to remind everybody, let's talk about what it was like day one when all the COVID mandates came out and you got Dr. Fauci, Anthony Fauci, declaring himself as science, right? Well, yeah, that's what's so disillusioning in that I'm sort of a contemporary of Fauci and that I, in my history, I was in the public health service after my internship in medicine in Boston and I worked at the NIAID, which he became the director of for 37 odd years. Yeah, and he was building his empire then and he's a few years older than I am, but In any case, I gave respect to those institutions throughout my career, and I went on idealistically in my work. And in that era, I was working on SV40 that became an infamous feature of the Moderna vaccine or Pfizer vaccine, one of them that uses still the Ori of SV40 being in the plasmid that people were exposed to. And I actually was a discoverer in that era long ago of the Ori

56:40 of SV40. That was my claim to fame. And I never thought 50 years later I would be dealing with that again in some ways. But I'm glad I didn't stay with that and went into real clinical medicine. We're in the trenches for 36 years now in the Imperial Valley of California with great communities and great doctors hardworking in the trenches. We knew what to do. And getting back to the history now that relates to this discussion, Bill, in 2020, we saw the wave of COVID coming on.

57:21 And we were told by Fauci that there was no treatment for it. And we were told by others that you just let them ride it out and maybe go to the hospital, get intubated if they deteriorate. And ironically, I mean, shockingly, Fauci himself had in 2005, in working on SARS, described hydroxychloroquine as the preventive and treatment of coronavirus infections. And yet, when we started, we turned to hydroxychloroquine because there was evidence it would be beneficial. Exactly.

58:02 Didier Raoult in France and our great colleague who passed away, Zelensky, or not Zelensky, but Zeb Zelenko, who's a friend of mine and a leader in our country. they had protocols where it was very effective. And when it hit us in the Imperial Valley, Brian Tyson, my great partner, and I developed our own protocol with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, vitamin D3, doxycycline or azithromycin and vitamin C and hydration and steroids if needed. But our protocol was 100% effective And Fauci was saying and trying to prevent anyone from knowing that, which was, I'll never forgive him for that.

58:54 Well, because that was the basis for him to convince the president we needed an emergency authorization. Use, right? Because you could not have the EAU if there was already protocol or there was... you know, relief for the problem, right? Yeah, exactly, Bill. So well stated. Well, we were getting such great results. We became visible nationally and internationally, Brian Hudson and myself and our community, which was the epicenter for California. And we eventually had thousands of great results of patients cured and prevented from hospitalization. And so I had the honor of being invited to speak about this in the Senate in November 2020. And I thought that that might turn the corner on it, but it was a deafness by Fauci and these others, CDC and others who were going toward this vaccine approach that... quasi-vaccine, actually a gene therapy. Right.

1:00:03 Well, it says a lot about fear, right? It says a lot about fear, that fear would close you off from hearing the good news. Very disillusioning, but we proceeded and we eventually treated maybe 20,000 cases in our community or and from other areas when we were contacted. And we wrote a book about this, and I'm very proud of that book, published in 2020, Overcoming the COVID Darkness, How Two Doctors Successfully Treated 7,000, but we really treated 20,000, with none being dying or getting intubated and being hospitalized. if treated early, if treated within the first five to seven days of the infection.

1:00:46 And many were later presenting to us and doing very well. However, Fauci's hearing prompted Brian and myself to decide to make a new book, a new edition of this or a sequel. with a lot of great contributors. It'll be about 18 of the best doctors that are in the field of infectious diseases and general medicine contributing as well as in other areas that we've worked with throughout the pandemic years and even continually. But in any case, the book will hopefully be completed by the end of this year, Overcoming the COVID Darkness, 2027, I think will be the title.

1:01:35 But that's where we stand. And one other thing that's so important is that just this last week, Brian, who was part of a lawsuit against the Attorney General of California that was inflicting repression on doctors like myself, the medical board was coming after Brian and myself and eventually dropped the suit. But This lawsuit now, a federal judge has provided a preliminary injunction against that lawyer, that Attorney General of California, such that doctors like myself and Brian and others on the front lines can speak freely to our patients. And as long as we don't have malpractice or harm someone, we're not going to be subject to an attack by a medical board, an osteopathic board, or another governing body. So it's a free speech issue also.

1:02:39 Well, it's also inherent to you as a medical doctor, your Socratic oath to do no harm. And here you are clearly aware that harm is being done to the American people. I mean, after everything was said and done, over a million people died, Dr. Fareed. Well, that and maybe 500,000 from the gene therapy vaccine that they don't like to talk about. They claim it's maybe 59,000. There should be no death from a vaccine. And I had three patients who died post-vaccine, and many came to me with consequences of myocarditis or pericarditis or other side effects that impacted their lives in a horrible way that shouldn't have occurred. So the fact that the COVID-19 gene therapy vaccines are still out there and new mRNA vaccines are being approved by the FDA is just terrible, in my opinion.

1:03:44 It would seem reckless in light of where we are. And now in understanding that Dr. Fauci wasn't forthright, He did harm. And, you know, that's one aspect that has to be handled by the Justice Department, by the government. There are many people here in America that are very upset. They lost loved ones. They didn't get a chance to say goodbye to them, Dr. Fareed, as they passed, right? And I saw that during the pandemic. I was working as a hospitalist in addition to the outpatient work. And it shook me to the core that the suffering that these people individuals had and the horrible endings like you've just stated. Yeah. And the thing is, is that the key of all this is what we always say, so that this doesn't happen again. And in order for it not to happen again, the whole truth and nothing but must be on the table, right?

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1:09:59 Brought to be involved in this conspiracy. Right. And so but I wanted out of my own curiosity, I wanted to test and run this out to see, OK, what would happen with my immunity? Now, understand my immunity, as I shared with you, you might recall, is I don't have an appendix. My tonsils have been removed. So I have to be a little bit more careful and mindful of my immunity than most people who do still have their appendix and have their tonsils. And so I thought, okay, Dr. Fauci said, maybe a couple of weeks. If you're lucky, you might get a couple of months. Well, Dr. Freed, I continued to run tests on my immunity. And after three years, my T-cell count was as strong as ever.

1:10:43 Wonderful. Excellent. Yeah. The natural immunity was far more. Elaborate and effective than this limited gene therapy vaccine immunity, so-called immunity. And many people got recurrent infections despite multiple boosters from these agents. It was a Russian roulette in a way. And there was just no way that it would be. I've never been in favor of anything that would have a chance of harming significantly or killing an individual.

1:11:23 And it's just pitiful to me to realize that that's what was being inflicted on the whole world. Right. Well, even Dr. Fauci reportedly had an adverse reaction, right? Yeah. He had a pulmonary embolism. Yeah. And he had multiple recurrences of COVID-19 infection. And despite many bouts, many boosters, I presume. Yeah. And of course, it was him who said initially, if you get the vaccine, you won't get COVID. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And Rochelle Walensky said that also, who is the acting head of the CDC at the time. These are people who don't treat patients. In our hearing in 2020, the Democratic representative was someone a public health individual, Ashish Jha, who never treated a COVID patient. And he came to present evidence that there was no good reason for, no evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine. That was the main component of our treatment, as was ivermectin in a multidrug treatment regimen. And so they didn't know what they were talking about. And they were presenting information that was detrimental to the world.

1:12:48 Well, and the situation, you know, I'm based in Florida, and there was a patient in Miami that got some celebrity, so much so that even Donald Trump made reference to it. He was told, you know, two hours before his proposed death that he needed to call his family and talk to them for the last time. And after doing that, they came in and said, look, we got a Hail Mary here. It's called hydroxychloroquine. Would you be willing to try this? I'm dying. What do I got to lose? Well, he did. He did. And then two hours later, everything was reversed. And so this made the news. And here, particularly in the East, and Donald Trump made mention of it. And they all but scolded Donald Trump for even bringing it up.

1:13:38 Right. I know it was really bad, very bad. And it was, we're in a situation where he just had bad advisors, terrible advisors, and he didn't, can't be blamed in my opinion. Right. Well, and again, the deception and it's clear, and we knew this early on because we had done some reporting on it and research on it and understood that Dr. Fauci had in fact, invested in the Wuhan laboratory, then he had high interest in gain of function, which is just a fancy term for biological warfare, in my humble opinion.

1:14:19 He was funding this work by Ralph Baric, the man who actually genetically did most of the genetic engineering of COVID-19 to make it a pathogen for humans. And they did, and Luc Montagnier, before he died, the My hero and Nobel laureate for his discovery of HIV realized this and tried to get this out also early on in the pandemic. And others who sequenced and looked at the genome of COVID-19, that it couldn't have come from nature. And it was all handled by this Barak and Dasik and Xu, I think, in Wuhan, but primarily Barak. And through the funding that he received, millions of dollars from the Department of War, DOW and Fauci, NIAID. And it was, I don't see how the guy like that could look at himself in the mirror when millions died as a consequence of his machinations.

1:15:30 Yeah, I don't know how you sleep at night. We're talking with the medical director, Dr. George Fareed. who he and his partner early on saw the dangers of COVID. His background was well-established and experienced to understand the kind of protocols that should be involved. He wrote a book on it called The Miracle of the Imperial Valley. Early treatment protocols saved thousands. I think over 7,000, we're saying now 20,000 at the end of the day. All these patients grateful that they're not having to deal with the results of the vaccine that many today are dealing with that, you know, Dr. Farid, we've got a lot of young people in their 30s, some in their 20s, that suddenly are dying and VARS is, you know, they're just not reporting on it in the way they should.

1:16:21 No, you're absolutely right. We have actually turbo cancers occurring that the immune systems have been damaged in addition to the direct cardiac and neurological damage that causes death, premature deaths in the population. But the book is titled Overcoming the COVID Darkness. Yes. Not the miracle. Oh, yeah, the miracle of the Imperial Valley is the headline because it really is a miracle, no doubt about it. But then you got a new book coming out. Yeah, we do. And it's going to be even better. And it'll be very timely in terms of giving all the factual information that doctors and the general public need to have and know that, and it's somewhat of a stepping stone or it's a jumping board from the Fauci hearing.

1:17:16 And that's why Brian and I have decided to organize this book. Right. Well, Dr. Freed, what was it like for you when Sacramento called you up to the star chamber and started grilling you with the threat of losing your license? That was a terrible time, a very bad time in 2022, 2021, 2022. And this is even after all the empirical evidence, all the proof of saving lives and doing all the great things that you and Dr. Tyson did, right? Yeah, it was. And they used reasons for doing so after me and for Brian did. based upon what we were saying to people like you. And for instance, I spoke at school board meetings and community gatherings and telling the truth about what should be known, that the shutdowns could have been stopped, that masking wasn't effective for an airborne virus, and the kids and teachers could go back to work early. if they really knew, understood that the early treatment was so effective and they could avail themselves of it. And that's why someone reported me to the medical board.

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1:22:26 Brian Tyson wrote the book, Overcoming the COVID Darkness. He is a medical director. He's got a new book that he's following up that's going to be released shortly. In this book, he says, our mission is to help people understand the critical importance of early COVID-19 treatment because there may be harsh surges, he wrote then. The doctors say on their website, We also hope that vaccination programs recognize that COVID-19 variants will continue to arise in those who have been vaccinated as long as vaccines fail to completely block the infection. Well, here it is. This is happening. I mean, this is the reality. What you saw, and you weren't taking a shot here. This wasn't some theoretical idea.

1:23:12 This was based on your trench warfare experience and your medical background, Dr. Fareed? Well, thank you very much. That's correct. And it was based upon evidence. So with experimental models of epidemics or pandemics with viruses, there were published studies, and we cite those in our book, with that very fact that A mutable virus, a highly mutable virus can't be vaccinated against. HIV has never had a vaccine. And there's other viruses in that category also. And so to think that you could do this without recognizing what was readily available to stop the suffering and the whole pandemic, with repurposed medications is terrible, just terrible, in that viruses like coronavirus are very mutable, RNA viruses in general are mutable, and a leaky vaccine will just promote variants coming up that may be more virulent or more harmful than the original form of the virus. but certainly can continue to inflict the clinical symptoms and syndromes that were present and just perpetuate

1:24:45 the pandemic. And that's what those did. Well, Dr. Fareed, vaccinations came into the crosshairs, especially with RFK Jr. He's been shouting from the rooftops for, it seems like, decades. And now that he's part of the administration, he has a bigger pulpit from which to speak from. you had realized this. The challenge is, is that here we are today and people are confused now. They go, what are good vaccines? What are bad vaccines? How do we know the difference? That's right. Well, we need to have placebo controls to know the difference, if they're good or bad, really, and if they're safe and then the trials to show efficacy.

1:25:32 And most of the trials are very short term and they there are very small numbers that differentiate the vaccinated from what they call the control groups. And so that's a big issue for all vaccines. And children should not be inflicted with 72 vaccines before they're in their teens or in their early ages, and particularly not before two years of age. Vaccines should be delayed, in my opinion, for children as long as possible and never given as solvals of multiple vaccines in one. And that the benefit may not be anything compared to the side effect or the downside of those vaccines when they're given too early and in too many doses combined. And that the pediatricians have been incentivized to vaccinate according to the schedule that has been established. And our country has done poorly compared to other countries where delays have been made in childhood vaccination.

1:26:48 Well, that's a scary thought when you put in the same sentence doctors being incentivized. Yeah, it is. It really is. Well, and the thing is, and I'm glad you brought this up. And that is that, you know, though we strive for a more perfect union and to do better tomorrow than we did, you know, yesterday or today, I grant that, you know, we have made some mistakes along the way. And you think we would learn from, you know, some of these adverse reactions that, you know, have really, unfortunately, have put, you know, they say big pharma, you know, the big pharma industrial complex into some jeopardy and questioning because, we need to trust those that have a part or participating in our biology and our health, right, Dr.

1:27:39 Farid? Yeah, we do. Absolutely. And I was trusting for most much of my career after I left academia and went and then came into the trenches of real clinical medicine. And, and, felt that I was being guided by these authorities, but they didn't guide properly. And the important point is that you need to be cautious with anything that you give to an individual, and you need to be using the results that are reliable.

1:28:22 And that's led me into a new area that I'm really excited about that involves the use of repurposed medications for cancer. And it's just so remarkable that these medicines are multifunctional, like ivermectin in particular, and even hydroxychloroquine. But the antiparasitic agents and certain supplements and other agents like metformin and doxycycline, they have multiple functions that impact cancer cells. And they're not necessarily what they're approved for. Like doxycycline is an antibiotic or metformin is a medicine for diabetes mellitus.

1:29:08 And there are other nutraceuticals that are very helpful. So I've been with the organization that Brian and I are senior fellows with called the Independent Medical Alliance. We have protocols for use of, on that protocol, in that organization, and it's readily available on their website, imahealth.org, in the Cancer Hub, using repurposed medications for cancer. There's no downside from them, and they can only be an upside, and they need to be incorporated into the standard of care with cancer patients, in my opinion.

1:29:48 Yeah, for some of our listeners, Dr. Freed, when they hear repurposed medicine, Some of them, this may be the first time that they've heard about this. But the fact of the matter is, is, you know, for all the years, the decades of medical history and research and everything, I mean, it's amazing what is on the shelf. And as you said, thank God there are people looking into this and saying, hey, look at this has application. This has been approved for a specific issue, but it can be repurposed. for a current ailment or disease that we're dealing with, right? That's correct. That's exactly the best way of describing that.

1:30:34 And these are agents that are generic. There's no profit in them, and they're inexpensive. And they've been tried and true for what they were approved for, like hydroxychloroquine was approved for as an anti-malarial agent. Billions of doses were administered for malaria treatment, but it was approved also for rheumatoid condition as a repurposed medication for the immune system to counter the overactive immune system. And then it has the tried and true mechanism. This is what led DDA Raoul to using it in, actually before we used it, when they were having COVID breakout in Marseille and in France, a month or two before it hit the West Coast of the United States. He had the protocol that guided us, and he had previously studied patients with Q fever Another, a bacterial infection responsive to hydroxychloroquine and doxycycline. And he would treat these patients with the hydroxychloroquine for 12 months daily with 600 milligrams a day. And for rheumatoid arthritis, it's 200 milligrams twice a day. And so we were using 600 milligrams or 800 milligrams, well, 600 milligrams in

1:32:06 our protocol with. Our COVID patients. And yet it eradicated this Q fever that had no treatment. He's attributed the discoverer of the proper treatment, Didier Raoul, and he was castigated in France. And he eventually had to retire and close his, he had the preeminent center in Marseille, France for infectious diseases and he had documentation of probably 20, 30,000 successes with the azithromycin hydroxychloroquine protocol for COVID-19. And yet he was under fire there as well. And this just shows the immensity of the effort to drive forward the gene therapy and the money-making efforts area that led to the plundering of our treasury for the sake of these gene therapy agents and the companies behind them. Very bad. That's just part of the history that's so important that people don't know.

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1:38:11 He's been on the front line for early COVID-19 treatment, has practiced the whole spectrum of COVID-19 care, treating outpatients as well as inpatients. As a hospitalist, he testified on November 19, 2020, in a Senate hearing on early COVID-19 treatment. He brought the receipts He brought the information of his experience on the front line to the Senate. And unfortunately, there were not enough ears to hear. And I think that part of what was blocking the ears of the senators and so many others, as you kind of referred to it, and I You know, we got to call it out for what it is. I don't know what else to call it, but pharmaceutical greed, you know, to have already drugs, as you talked about, that could have been easily repurposed. It would have negated the emergency authorization use.

1:39:05 It would have healed a lot of people a lot sooner. I mean, even Dr. Tyson said, your partner said, had we done a test and treatment and treat centers all across the United States, we could have saved 80% of the population that died from COVID-19. Think about that, Dr. Reed. That is huge. It is huge. There's over a million died in the United States from COVID-19, and 80% of those would have been saved, if not more, actually. The earlier that it had been made, the standard of care and the fever clinics were set up, like Brian Tyson's urgent care clinics around the United States with the early treatment protocols being offered.

1:39:50 that would have resulted in the cessation of the pandemic. Well, greed abounded. There was no question. Not only in big pharma, other areas, Dr. Fauci leveraged his position. He utilized his power and authority to move taxpayer funds, to come up with, you know, evidence as far as we're realizing that it was then, of course, is now. As it comes to daylight, we're realizing how these things were manipulated and how we were lied to, Dr. Fareed. Yes, exactly. It was very disillusioning. I was just here in the remote rural area of California doing clinical work and doing the best thing I could in my different areas. But, you know, it took over everything for me and for Brian Tyson during that two or three year period of time. And yet it just was so disillusioning that this was the case. And I felt that I had been a culprit in my own way of not realizing this was going on. I'm an old-timer. I plan to keep going for another 18 years until I'm 100.

1:41:18 I'm 82. That was the question that I knew that was going around the medical profession. A lot of doctors, because unfortunately, this promoted early retirement for a lot of good doctors across the country. How many thousands? Thousands of medical professionals that we lost because of this kind of, you know, this lie and what was causing them to do. And they just knew that ethically on so many levels in terms of their Socratic oath to do no harm, that it was impinging on their ethos as medical professionals and they couldn't stand and retired. But one of the things that I often heard them say is they would ask their fellow doctors, are you still in? Cause I need to have a doctor I can trust, right?

1:42:03 Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's right. You're trustworthy is so important. That's what I, I put it the highest level being trustworthy. So I, that's, uh, and I think the, uh, sad thing is that, uh, the, the medical profession was, uh, in up in arms to support, uh, this, uh, edicts from Fauci and the others in that they they wouldn't uh see that they're they were being misled and and when we would try to get the information out they didn't uh they fought against it or argued that there were other explanations or we were going to be doing more harm than good and if anything they that was the wrong thing and uh people suffered which was very bad.

1:42:51 Well the unfortunate thing is that Dr. Fauci had manipulated it in such a way that he got uh you know, who otherwise would have been credible doctors. I mean, very well degreed in stellar positions. And they're going along with this. And I got to imagine probably for some, if they haven't seared their conscience, it's probably hard for them to sleep at night. Well, maybe or maybe not. People find ways of putting out of their minds things like this and allowing them to be thinking about other areas and resting well at night. I wouldn't be able to myself. Right. Well, Dr.

1:43:33 Freed, I cannot thank you enough for your time, for all the good that you did, especially in the Imperial Valley. And, you know, your voice, though you may not realize it, really went across the country and around the world. Yours and Dr. Tyson, your book, the information that you gave, the hearing in Congress and all that. I'm going to turn it over to you and let you wrap it up and kind of summarize what what you want our viewers to take away and what we can do to make sure this doesn't happen again. Well, I think that it's important that the truth of what happened is out and people recognize that, that there were these terrible mistakes that were made and that people use good judgment about what's safe and effective and what that actually means and look at package inserts in drugs and see what actually is the information on safety and efficacy and then don't get swayed by without that type of knowledge. But I think we hope in our book that we're working on that probably won't be available for four or five months, unfortunately, but when it does come out, it will give us so much information from the Global COVID Summit group that Brian and I have been part of.

1:44:57 In many areas, there are really many areas, it's hard to be succinct in this way of summarizing without realizing that there's so much that has to be a appreciated and understood to be able to be trustworthy for doctors and also to be doing the right thing and to prevent anything like this ever happening again. And I think that if We'll definitely send you the first copy of the book. Because we'll have you back on Lickety Split to get into that as well, Dr. Freed. That's very kind of you. I appreciate that.

1:45:38 Thank you for the time today. And I look forward to keeping you informed and following all that you do, Bill. And I want to thank Dr. Rich Figueroa, who He's our mutual friend and he is a great doctor and he shared our views and used our protocol with his work in Oxnard and with others that came to him at his urgent care clinic in Oxnard, California. But a great doctor and friend of mine. Yeah, a friend of both of ours. I mean, he and I were childhood friends and he's been my personal doctor for what, 60 years now? And he often accuses me, Dr. Farid, of practicing medicine without a license.

1:46:22 The great doctor who's interested in my brother, who is an orthopedic surgeon and had to retire from orthopedics because of the pandemic. He just had no clinical practice left in Santa Barbara. He developed an abscess on the back of his neck. All the doctors locally there in Santa Barbara shunned him or wanted to do major surgery for him. I sent him down to Oxnard and Rich cured the abscess, drained it properly, and properly treated and saved his life in a way. But my brother was an inspiration to me in my life and career, older brother, and gave me a lot of good information when I went into clinical practice on the full time 36 years ago. And it led to me being, I don't know if you know this, in 2015, the California Medical Association named me the Rural Doctor of the Year.

1:47:19 Oh, wow. Great. Congratulations. You kept that information away from me, Dr. Freed. Don't be so humble. That was a great honor, the Plessner Award from the California Medical Association. I thought, well, now I can retire from medicine. Well, not yet. You're not yet 100. That's our goal. You said you wanted to practice until you're 100. God bless you. Well, Dr. Freed, thank you so much. Dr. Freed is a medical director, author, and his partner of the book, Overcoming the COVID Darkness. We've got a new book coming up. in the coming months that we'll keep you abreast of. And again, appreciate your time and all the information. I will leave our audience with this quote from Senator Ron Johnson. You made reference to him. This is a good senator out of Wisconsin. He says, and I quote, how many more people would be alive today had the medical establishment followed the example of Dr. Tyson and Dr. Farid instead of heeding arrogant bureaucrats who recommended no treatment for COVID-19 until it was often too late.

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