Sept. 3, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 09 03 26

The Bill Martinez Show 09 03 26
The Bill Martinez Show 09 03 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now, Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning.

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How you doing?

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It's six minutes after the top of the hour. Bill

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Martinez here. We got Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike,

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how we doing?

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Good.

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Good to be with you, Bill.

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Good to catch up on some things. The saga of

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the Trump ballroom. continues. And of course, they probably hate

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the fact that I said Trump in ballroom in the

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same sentence.

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I mean, it just, it won't end. And this, as

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I've said before, this, in any other administration, this would

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have been just a side note. Wouldn't have attracted attention.

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It would have been celebrated. Construction continues on the new,

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brand new, beautiful ballroom. That would have been it. But because,

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of course, it's Donald Trump and because There's just been

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the weaponization and legal lawfare against everything and anything that

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he does, any and all of his executive actions. It

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becomes way blown out of proportion. This is something that's

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necessary that the White House needs. We know this because

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they've been reduced to having events for decades. They've had events,

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international diplomatic events intense on the White House lawn. which

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really doesn't make a lot of sense from a security

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perspective in the.

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Era of drone. Especially with drone warfare now in play, right?

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Right.

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It's not a secure site. You need something. You need

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a hard, secure location that they can host these sorts

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of high-profile events at. And so Donald Trump made the–

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and he's a builder. He took the reasonable measure to

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decide he was going to put a nice ballroom, reasonable.

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And he's also going to– since there was going to

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be massive construction, they were going to beef up the

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security apparatus under the White House. So there's a secure

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location that the president and others can evacuate to or

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vacate to in the event of a national emergency.

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Right.

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Nonetheless, this was litigated. This was a lawsuit. The most

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specious standing analysis was done to somehow concluding that an

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individual who who was part of a member of a

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historic trust, which, by the way. is just a euphemism

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for a wealthy NGO, exempt organization with tens of millions,

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if not hundreds of millions of dollars in reserves, whose

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sole purpose appears to be to make wage lawfare against

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the president of the United States. And that's what you

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see over and over again. And keep in mind, I'm

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someone who is part of an NGO. I'm an attorney

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at an exempt organization. So I can see how this

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works from the inside. You have these groups that are

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just waging this and are funding this. And yet you

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have a D.C. court, a district court, the D.C. Circuit

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Court of Appeals, and four justices of the Supreme Court. Now,

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we saw this. Four justices, including John Roberts, conclude that

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they would have stopped construction on this. And they completely

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washed over a simple threshold question that all courts have

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to ask themselves when they entertain a lawsuit, when a

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lawsuit is filed. And that is whether the party's bringing

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the lawsuit, the party or parties bringing the lawsuit, In

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other words, have they suffered an injury in fact?

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Right.

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And I defy you to convince me that somebody whose

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view of the East Wing of the White House is

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so offended to the point where they have suffered an

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acute injury that justifies injury. a multimillion-dollar lawsuit being brought

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all the way to the United States Supreme Court to

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stop the construction of something that the chief executive of

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the United States has decided is necessary for security purposes.

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What does it say about the legal system, Mike, that's

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something so academic that you probably learned in your first

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semester of law school that finds its way to the

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Supreme Court? What does that say about the whole judicial

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process right now?

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I mean, that's a deep sigh for me because it's

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just incredibly disappointing that you would have this threshold issue.

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And keep in mind, I spend days, weeks trying to

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ensure that any lawsuits have sufficient standing. In other words,

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does this when conservatives bring lawsuits in cases so often,

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you know, I hear this over and over again. Well,

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I want to sue because this state law is, you know,

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it allows noncitizens to vote. or doesn't properly secure my

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right to vote, or the structure of my state's election

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system is such that they don't have sufficient controls in

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place to ensure that ineligible voters aren't casting votes. Can

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I sue? I'm worried that my vote is being diluted,

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the value of my vote, because people who are ineligible

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are casting ballots, or non-citizens are in the voter rolls.

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And I have to answer these questions. I have to say, well,

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there's not this generalized standing principle. You can't have this

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generalized injury. You have to have the cognizable injury in fact.

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And it drives me crazy that I have to answer

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those questions that way, but I do.

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But how do you determine that? Because usually the injury

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doesn't occur until post-election. And then you have to have

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the evidence to be able to demonstrate that there was,

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you know, said infringement upon that one vote.

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And then it's too late, right?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And to the court's credit, there's been a little bit

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of a loosening in that. In the boss decision last term,

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they actually concluded that a candidate If you're a candidate,

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you can actually sue proactively. But a generalized citizen, you know,

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can't sue because, well.

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Wait a minute.

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I know my vote in the November election is going

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to be devalued because I know for at least I

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should be, you know, at least as a facially that

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there's going to be people who are ineligible who are

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going to be casting ballots. And I want to file

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a lawsuit because I want to be able to prove

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to a jury that. by a preponderance of evidence, that

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that's going to be the case. And I want to

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be able to conduct discovery. And I want to be

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able to look into this and subpoena the system and

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pull the curtain back.

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No, no, no.

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There's not this generalized voter standing. So they're so quick

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to say that. Yet, on the other side of the ledger,

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if it's against a Donald Trump construction or a Donald

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Trump executive action, we can say, oh, wait, wait a second.

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My view of the East Wing of the White House

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is offended, which is entirely subjective in and of itself.

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That's sufficient evidence for both a district court and a

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circuit court and four justices. Four justices. Keep in mind now,

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I think you asked the question why. And I think

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that their arguments were that he doesn't have any kind

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of legal authority to do this and that they were

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so offended by his lack of legal authority to do

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this that they were able to overcome.

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Their standing issues.

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But again, Standing is a threshold necessary issue that you

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have to resolve before you can entertain a lawsuit. It's

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the very first question the court asks itself. You don't

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even get to the merits of the case until you

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overcome standing. And again, standing, injury in fact, redressability and traceability. Traceability,

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you have to be able to trace the injury you

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suffered to the party that you're doing. And then redressability,

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the court actually has to have statutory legal constitutional power

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to actually redress your purported injury.

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Well, Michael, how can how can they say that Donald

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Trump isn't legally authorized? I mean, his number one job

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is national security.

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That's why I take issue with that as well.

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Right.

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Again, and that's why it's kind of surprising with the

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chief justice, because so in a lot of cases he's understood,

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you know, immigration cases come to mind, for example. He said, look,

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the plenary authority of the executive is to determine national security.

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We're not going to infringe on that. And this is

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an executive action taken on executive land, you know, executive property.

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This is the executive mansion. So we're going to defer

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to his findings there. And again, it's not it's a

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necessary it's necessary in and of itself. We know that

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this is a these are legitimate threats that the president

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United States faces. Keep in mind, and we lose track

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of this. The fact that there was an assassination attempt

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at a ballroom a couple of months ago.

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Right down the street.

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So, OK, wait a minute. Let's not have the president

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of the United States be in these to the extent

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possible that we can control it. Doesn't it make sense

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to have a big ballroom on a secure White House

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grounds so that the president can have these events there

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instead of having to be transported and shut down the

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city and inhale at the Hilton? and shut down the

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streets around the city and have all these security checkpoints

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and then have some lunatic be able to still run

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through and get almost, you know, get, you know, within

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a few feet of the ballroom. What if he had,

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you know, what if that guy was a suicide bomber, right?

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What if he were a suicide bomber? He could, he got,

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he got through, he kind of got through the initial

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security checkpoint, the security, the secret service tackled him. But

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what if he had a bomb strapped to himself? Again,

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what if there's a drone? It's like, we can just,

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we can go down this, this road of hypotheticals you know,

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until we're blue in the face. But they're all, the

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thing is, they're all legitimate threats. We're not just making

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this up. So you would think there would be some

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deference to that.

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Yeah, you would think. I mean, and the other thing,

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oh yeah, by the way, this construction is being privately

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done and paid for. No taxpayer money is being used

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on this. I can't imagine that any future Democratic president,

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if there would be one, would not be grateful for

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this ballroom. We got to go to quick break. We've

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got more from Mike O'Neill after this. Stay with us.

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Hey, we're back with you.

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Bill Martinez with Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal. We're talking

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about the whole uproar about the ballroom. You know, it's

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almost I want the Democrats to say, OK, sign a document.

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that says after this ballroom is constructed that no Democratic

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president in the future will ever use it, that they

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will insist, because they have such disdain for the ballroom

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and its security, that they're going to do all their

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parties under tents on the White House lawn, right?

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That's the other kind of final irony in this situation.

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in this saga is the fact that he's not even,

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Donald Trump's going to use it, what, for a few months, maybe,

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you know, maybe, maybe six or seven months. I don't

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even know what the timeline is.

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Yeah.

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He might barely get a ribbon cutting ceremony.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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He's going to be able to have a couple of

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events there and then it's going to be for whoever's

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next in line. And it's just, it's, it's, it's absurd

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on its face, but it really is. It's really, it's

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really kind of emblematic of the larger issue that we all,

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that we consistently talk about here. And this is, this

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is unceasing law. And you're like, well, why would we

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waste so much time talking about the ballroom? It's not

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necessarily just the ballroom. It's the larger issues, the standing issue,

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the fact.

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Well, every, everything is so anti-Trump. It's all TDS. I mean, whether,

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you know, everything, this E.G. Carroll case, I mean, it's absurd.

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All the stuff that the New York district attorney had

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to do and all this pretzel legal logic that they

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came to in order to do this along with the judge.

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You know, it's, It's getting exhausting that, and here it is,

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this president is in the middle of navigating a peaceful

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settlement in the Middle East that could be absolutely historic.

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And you've got Democrats, you've got the mainstream media, everybody

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siding with the enemy. And they are, in fact, extending,

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they're extending the conflict because of all the propaganda and

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the narrative that they're throwing out there. And the American

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people are going to vote for these guys. for doing that,

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all for the sake of, you know, politics. They're putting

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us in additional and unnecessary danger because the longer this

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carries out, you've got the increased risk of American soldiers,

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you know, becoming casualties, Mike.

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Yeah, certainly it behooves us to end this as quickly

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and efficiently as possible in a manner that's secure for

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the American people and the world. And I do think,

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I mean, just from my limited reading on this, it

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seems like it's kind of getting lost in the fact

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that we're kind of choking out the Iranian regime, right?

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I think that kind of the siege mentality that we've

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kind of adopted now, and again, it's kind of gotten

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hot in the past few days, has been effective. And

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the fact that you can starve out this regime. I

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do get frustrated with the standard that you see so

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often is that Iran responds. And it's like, you're trying

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to equate, you would think like reading about this, it's

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like the Soviet Union circa 1982 versus the united states

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like iran iran the united states are not equals in.

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This right not even close right not even.

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Close and trying to bring up and that's what they

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count on and to your point i think that's what

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that's what the regime counts on is aid and comfort

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given it's like if you bring us up to it

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we only have to respond and you're like oh my

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god okay so it's just i i think the strategy

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seems to be working now i do i would like

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to see you know it resolved in time for elections. But,

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you know, I think it'd be good to see also

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gas prices, and they are going down, I've noticed, generally speaking,

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below $ 4 a gallon in my area. So that's good.

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I'd like to see the economy continue to trudge up.

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At some point- You know, Mike, regarding gas prices, you know,

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when the Democrats were in charge, it was always kind

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of a hope and a prayer. You know, you keep

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seeing Obama's poster, you know, hope, you know, and it

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was always about hope, but there was never really any

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backup to that hope. It was just, It was an

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empty aspiration. At least with Trump, you're saying, OK, look

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what he did in Venezuela. Look what's lined up here.

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Look at $ 19 trillion in foreign investment coming, businesses, manufacturing,

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jobs coming back to the country. I mean, you start

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seeing this supply chain that is coming here. It's not

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like somebody, you know, like Barack Obama getting in front

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of a microphone and and charming people like a snake charmer.

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And he has no substance. He just, you know, he's

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got a whistle. That's it, you know? And people, oh yeah,

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that's cool. Let's all clap and everything like that. A

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fundamental transformation of America. Oh yeah, great idea. What the

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heck does that mean?

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You know?

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Yeah, affordable health care. What does that mean? You can

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keep your same diet.

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I don't know what that means.

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Until you realize what it means, it was bupkis. It

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was absolutely empty. You hear, what's your name from Wendy's,

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Miss Claire? Where's the beef? And that's what you keep

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asking about anything that has to do with the Democrats

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and this whole situation. But getting back to the Trump

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derangement syndrome, it's not just about Trump. It's about anything conservative,

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anything that connects with the founding values of this country.

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I mean, what came out this past week was, you know,

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the latest revelation about the FBI's infamous infamous Richmond memo scandal.

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And this is something that Christopher Wray lied about repeatedly.

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And this was an attack, if you remember, about conservative

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Catholic churches. Now, this whistleblower leaked to the Richmond memo

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to members of Congress. Now, the FBI, when that happened,

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the FBI, FBI, mind you, they go into full damage control.

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That was when Christopher Wray tells Congress, oh, no, there's

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nothing there. You know, it's it's you know, it's a

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nothing burger in the whole deal. Well, the fact of

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the matter was it was more than it was a

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burger burger.

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You know, I think it's it's and you continue to

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see this. And I don't think it gets enough discussion.

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And I'm glad you raise these these points because it

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really bears discussion. is the ideologically driven agenda of the

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Obama administration and then Biden part two, you know, Biden,

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and Biden, you can just say Biden, Obama part three, right?

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Obama chapter three, Obama chapter three, the Biden administration was

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four years of Obama running the country, basically, and his

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people running the country. Let's just be very clear about this.

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Biden was not in charge of anything for four years.

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It was Obama and his radical ilk who were running

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the country without accountability, by the way, because they could

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operate from behind the scenes. The fact that The extent

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to which they had weaponized the justice system against traditional

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religious Christians in this country is important. And how it

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was weaponized and driven to suppress religious belief and targeted

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is beyond the pale. The fact that you had organized structures,

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the most powerful law enforcement branches in this country who

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were organized to attack and destroy traditional Christian principles and

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traditional Christian values is indisputable. And I think the more

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you talk about it, accountability is one thing. At least

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the fact that we're talking about it to be aware

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of what's happened is clear. At the point, I remember when,

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and we did this at Landmark, remember when they directed

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the U.S. attorneys, Merrick Garland directed the U.S. attorneys to

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investigate school board, people who spoke up at school board.

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Meetings at the behest of it.

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It was absurd on its face. And yet you saw

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this weaponization of this to suppress speech and religious practices

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of it. And then keep in mind is, The Don Lemon, like,

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feels like he could go into a church while people

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are actively worshiping and interrupt that. If that had been

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a conservative who'd gone in.

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Oh, forget it. Forget it. You can't even have conservatives

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outside a pregnancy center. Are you kidding me?

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Well, they were targeted, too. Exactly.

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Well, of course.

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I mean, and they were praying. They were just outside praying.

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You know, they weren't blocking any entrances. And look at

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what kind of havoc and how people, you know, were

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arrested and, and, uh, you know, you've got the lawfare

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going against them. You know, I got, I got to

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say this, the irony about the, in this particular case,

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in this memo, it was targeting Catholics specifically. And I'm thinking,

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how does that connection happen with Joe Biden? Supposedly, you know,

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to your point, here's Joe Biden, the president.

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Oh yeah.

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He's a practicing Catholic.

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It is funny because when you're talking about this, I

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keep thinking to myself, um, is that a lot of

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these law enforcement agencies in the past were kind of

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filled with old school Catholics from the Northeast. I mean,

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the FBI kind of was no, I mean, I don't,

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I come from a lineage of the secret service where

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I had my father and my cousin were both secret

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service agents. And my name is O'Neill and obviously I'm Catholic.

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And there were a lot of, there were a lot

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of O's or something. Irish Catholics kind of populated these

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law enforcement agencies, these federal law enforcement agencies, you know,

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obviously Irish and police, et cetera, it goes hand in glove.

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It's kind of sad to see that. It's funny to

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see who's populated now these traditional law enforcement agencies to

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the point where this sort of thing can be acceptable.

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If I were sitting as an FBI agent or a

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senior agent in one of these law enforcement agencies, I

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would say, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute here. We

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got to see where we're going before we're going to

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start targeting Christians or Catholics for that matter. And it's

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sad to see that these agencies have been so debased

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to the point where they go by doing things like this.

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Well, this is the endemic problem that we have, a

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foundational principle issue that we have in our nation that

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speaks of corruption and a breakdown in our integrity. If

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this country is going to be great again, it needs

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to reestablish these founding principles that we embraced on its foundation.

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And a breakdown of the Christian viewpoint, right? And that's it.

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When you lose faith, when you lose track or you lose,

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you take your eye off the ball of the Judeo-Christian

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ideal and principles, then you just allow whatever to come in.

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Whatever's vogue at the moment. Oh, we're going to go

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after these people. We're going to do this.

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We're going to do this.

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No, you got to keep your eye on the ball.

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We're a Judeo-Christian society and country, and we have to

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continue to hold those ideals and principles alive. above it.

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And that's what we strive for. And once you move

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off of that, it becomes anarchy.

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Well, there's no question about it. And we have to

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maintain a sacred vigilance, you know, to that end. We

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got to leave it there. Mike O'Neill from Landmark Legal.

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Appreciate you. Thank you so much.

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Take care.

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Take care, Bill. Have a great day.

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Hey, good morning.

543
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Welcome back.

544
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Bill Martinez here along with Dr. Wilfred Rodney, the professor

545
00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:48.240
is in the house. Get ready. Take out your notepads.

546
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:52.829
Let's get it on. Hey, I'll tell you, it's just

547
00:27:52.849 --> 00:27:56.789
been so interesting with the dismantling of the DSA. I

548
00:27:56.849 --> 00:28:00.799
say dismantling. I mean, they're going head forward, but I

549
00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:05.349
guess they're more dismantling the Democratic Party because You know,

550
00:28:05.609 --> 00:28:09.069
they wanted to come alongside them during the primaries. But

551
00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:11.859
now that we're going into the general election, boy, they're

552
00:28:11.900 --> 00:28:16.579
taking a couple of steps back. Mother, may I?

553
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.619
Well, I mean, we've talked about this before. The Democrats

554
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.099
are going to have to figure out what they want

555
00:28:20.220 --> 00:28:23.220
to do here. I mean, in the GOP, we have

556
00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:27.220
a similar issue with the quote unquote dissident right. But

557
00:28:27.309 --> 00:28:29.549
I think the reality is there is that they're far

558
00:28:29.609 --> 00:28:32.390
more sort of MAGA types and for that matter, traditional

559
00:28:32.529 --> 00:28:34.769
National Review conservatives than there are dissidents.

560
00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:36.670
So you see these vote margins.

561
00:28:36.990 --> 00:28:39.130
And I'll clarify, I don't dislike either guy here, but

562
00:28:39.170 --> 00:28:43.549
you see like Byron Donald's 58 percent, Fishback, I.

563
00:28:43.569 --> 00:28:44.190
Think 11 or 12.

564
00:28:44.190 --> 00:28:47.710
With the Dems, it's a little different because they don't

565
00:28:47.819 --> 00:28:50.440
have any built in antibodies for rebellion.

566
00:28:50.779 --> 00:28:51.039
Right.

567
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.740
Like the whole idea is we are the we are

568
00:28:53.779 --> 00:28:57.039
the cool kids that are coming up against everybody's dad

569
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:59.099
that gives her a curfew at 10 p.m.

570
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.839
We're representing for minorities. We're representing for immigrants.

571
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.700
So when someone comes along and says, well, OK, I'm

572
00:29:05.740 --> 00:29:07.900
more of a minority immigrant than you are and I'm

573
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.210
a communist, it's really hard for the Democrats to kind

574
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:13.609
of stand up to that. So you've seen a Chevalier

575
00:29:13.630 --> 00:29:17.539
won her election. That's a DSA candidate. This guy, Al-Said,

576
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.839
he's probably going to, in practice, finish second. But that's

577
00:29:19.859 --> 00:29:24.299
a very serious Senate-level DSA candidate.

578
00:29:23.940 --> 00:29:24.809
Out there in Michigan.

579
00:29:25.549 --> 00:29:27.150
They had a couple of them in New York. And

580
00:29:27.170 --> 00:29:29.529
I mean, this is already on top of the squad.

581
00:29:29.849 --> 00:29:33.450
AOC is a DSA member. Bernie's been a DSA member.

582
00:29:33.869 --> 00:29:36.789
Rashida Tlaib is probably to the left of the DSA.

583
00:29:37.309 --> 00:29:40.539
So I mean, they're not as invulnerable to the as

584
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:42.259
the right seems to be. And they're going to have

585
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.900
to decide, are we the party that favors a welfare

586
00:29:45.940 --> 00:29:48.940
state but also is pro-America, which is John Fetterman and

587
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.029
Big Jim Clyburn? That's what Democrats always have been. Or

588
00:29:52.109 --> 00:29:54.190
are we going to go this crazy back to the

589
00:29:54.210 --> 00:29:56.990
1960s route And I think if they do that, they're

590
00:29:57.009 --> 00:29:59.069
going to win in a lot of local areas and

591
00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:03.470
marginalize themselves nationally because anyone can trot out those ads

592
00:30:04.670 --> 00:30:08.470
showing Mamdani standing in front of Ground Zero anywhere.

593
00:30:08.230 --> 00:30:09.440
In the country. I don't think that's going to be

594
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:09.859
good for them.

595
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.720
Don't you think there's an opportunity here for the Republican Party?

596
00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:15.839
I mean, because you got a lot of energy here.

597
00:30:16.339 --> 00:30:19.420
And I've been saying, well, they shouldn't throw the baby

598
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.269
out with the bathwater. Listen to these kids. Listen to

599
00:30:22.309 --> 00:30:25.730
what they're saying and quit trying to defend it. with,

600
00:30:27.250 --> 00:30:30.029
you know, I guess they don't want to hear the facts.

601
00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:32.829
They want to know that you're hearing them and you're

602
00:30:32.869 --> 00:30:36.910
feeling their pain. And their pain is real. And it's

603
00:30:36.990 --> 00:30:41.029
a result of past policies that have been presented, I'd

604
00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:43.470
say mostly by the Democrats, but the Republicans have been

605
00:30:43.509 --> 00:30:45.789
part and parcel with it as well. And I hate

606
00:30:45.809 --> 00:30:48.730
this both sides kind of argument. But the reality is,

607
00:30:48.829 --> 00:30:51.130
is that I think this is an opportunity for the

608
00:30:51.170 --> 00:30:53.109
Republicans to come in and say, you know what, I

609
00:30:53.130 --> 00:30:56.759
agree with you. You're right. There are some affordability issues.

610
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:58.759
There are some things here. But you know what? I

611
00:30:58.819 --> 00:31:00.779
need you on my team so that we can come

612
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.509
against all this fraud and corruption that's taking place so

613
00:31:04.529 --> 00:31:06.789
that we can get this government back on track to

614
00:31:06.829 --> 00:31:09.890
do what it was designed to do by our founding fathers.

615
00:31:09.950 --> 00:31:10.490
What do you say?

616
00:31:11.740 --> 00:31:13.160
Yeah, I'd say I mostly agree with that.

617
00:31:13.180 --> 00:31:16.150
I mean, so first of all, one thing you hear

618
00:31:16.210 --> 00:31:19.029
a lot, if you do focus groups with business people

619
00:31:19.109 --> 00:31:22.150
or with housewives, the way Unified Solutions, my company is

620
00:31:22.170 --> 00:31:23.970
starting to do, like, what do you want in politics?

621
00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:24.859
What are you looking for?

622
00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:26.819
One thing you hear a lot is I just want

623
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.740
someone to be sane. Like most people like Trump, but

624
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:33.529
they'll turn on the TV and they'll see these fights

625
00:31:33.589 --> 00:31:38.720
between like big Trump and the Democratic D.C. representatives about

626
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.390
who they cut down the trees around the Kennedy Center

627
00:31:42.410 --> 00:31:45.190
and they're blaming each other. But at a higher level,

628
00:31:45.410 --> 00:31:51.130
there constantly seems to be bizarre line stepping going on

629
00:31:51.170 --> 00:31:53.359
by the major political parties. And that's something people will

630
00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:55.400
really call out. Like they do see the alt right

631
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.339
on Facebook and Twitter. they see some of Trump's flamboyant

632
00:31:58.380 --> 00:32:00.480
social media posting, and that might irritate them a little.

633
00:32:00.819 --> 00:32:02.519
And then they go over to the left and they see, well,

634
00:32:02.539 --> 00:32:04.259
then Mamdani, the mayor of New York City, is a

635
00:32:04.299 --> 00:32:06.509
Muslim communist. Like, okay, I don't want that.

636
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.869
So if someone were to, Marco Rubio, J.D.

637
00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:13.410
Vance, if someone were to take the core Trump policies

638
00:32:13.630 --> 00:32:16.349
and run with them wearing a blue Brooks Brothers suit

639
00:32:16.670 --> 00:32:18.829
and not cracking a lot of jokes and just saying

640
00:32:18.890 --> 00:32:21.970
things like, I'll get the plane back on track, I

641
00:32:21.990 --> 00:32:23.490
think that that person would win with.

642
00:32:23.369 --> 00:32:23.990
60% of the vote.

643
00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:29.049
The problem is getting through the primaries for either party.

644
00:32:29.529 --> 00:32:31.750
And that's, that's a very serious issue. I mean, candidates

645
00:32:31.769 --> 00:32:35.589
that have incredibly high overall support Tulsi Gabbard did for

646
00:32:35.630 --> 00:32:38.539
some reason, but those, those people are never going to

647
00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:42.920
win a primary race against a Donald Trump or against

648
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:47.089
an anointed democratic candidate. Um, The other thing you said

649
00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:49.829
that I agreed with very briefly is, yeah, I think

650
00:32:49.890 --> 00:32:53.309
a lot of the socialist energy among young people, and

651
00:32:53.349 --> 00:32:56.299
for that matter, a lot of the hard right, we've

652
00:32:56.359 --> 00:33:00.160
had enough, deport energy among young people, that's driven by

653
00:33:00.220 --> 00:33:04.359
real factors. So I debate a lot online, and I

654
00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:06.769
usually win these arguments. But every so often when I'm

655
00:33:06.789 --> 00:33:08.390
talking to the young guns, I'll do something like post

656
00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:10.930
a market basket and say, part of the problem is

657
00:33:10.950 --> 00:33:11.970
that you guys don't know how to cook.

658
00:33:12.569 --> 00:33:14.509
And people will respond and say, well, no, no, part

659
00:33:15.529 --> 00:33:15.730
of it.

660
00:33:16.190 --> 00:33:18.910
But it's also like the prices, these foods have tripled

661
00:33:19.579 --> 00:33:21.700
between the two political parties over eight years.

662
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.279
Like, you don't understand that. You have land. Like, there

663
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.220
aren't any stores in town. This is Appalachia.

664
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.160
We have a Dollar General. So there really are these issues.

665
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:33.480
The jobs have been outsourced. We've seen, I mean, there's

666
00:33:33.529 --> 00:33:35.789
a graphic. The stat's a little bit off. But for

667
00:33:35.809 --> 00:33:38.269
a period of about 10 years, 6% of the people

668
00:33:38.309 --> 00:33:41.329
hired by the Fortune 500 were white men. So a

669
00:33:41.349 --> 00:33:43.119
lot of these guys, that's still, whites are still the

670
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.089
majority of the population, 60 plus percent. So a lot

671
00:33:46.109 --> 00:33:48.990
of these guys are facing an incredibly contested job market,

672
00:33:49.009 --> 00:33:53.210
incredibly contested housing market. And that's what's pushing them in

673
00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:54.630
that Bernie Sanders direction.

674
00:33:54.650 --> 00:33:55.930
And yeah, I think if.

675
00:33:55.890 --> 00:33:58.730
The right says things like we're going to deport all

676
00:33:58.910 --> 00:34:01.789
illegal immigrants, I don't, most of these people aren't racist

677
00:34:01.829 --> 00:34:04.130
in any real sense, but we have a large illegal population.

678
00:34:04.539 --> 00:34:07.079
We're going to cut fraud out of these programs. Like

679
00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:09.980
Nick Shirley has done some good work here where he's

680
00:34:10.019 --> 00:34:14.469
gone around to the largest Medicare biller in three states now.

681
00:34:14.650 --> 00:34:16.769
And I mean, I hope he has an armed bodyguard.

682
00:34:17.309 --> 00:34:20.829
Yeah, he's got a bodyguard. But even still, yeah, I mean,

683
00:34:21.050 --> 00:34:24.960
and look what happened. California passed the Nick Shirley Act.

684
00:34:24.980 --> 00:34:26.639
Can you believe that? That's insane.

685
00:34:27.210 --> 00:34:29.250
And they're protecting the fraudsters by law.

686
00:34:29.449 --> 00:34:31.710
But I do think that this is a major point

687
00:34:31.769 --> 00:34:34.650
for the right, because it's always been said by the right,

688
00:34:34.670 --> 00:34:37.889
which is kind of the stable dad political bloc, you know,

689
00:34:37.929 --> 00:34:40.309
we can't really cut some of these programs.

690
00:34:40.329 --> 00:34:41.050
Like, what are you going to cut?

691
00:34:41.110 --> 00:34:44.530
Social Security, the GI Bill, you can take seniors off

692
00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:47.309
their pension fund. We took their money. Like, you couldn't

693
00:34:47.349 --> 00:34:49.469
keep your own money and invest it in the stock market.

694
00:34:49.570 --> 00:34:52.940
But I think that one loophole we've now found is

695
00:34:52.980 --> 00:34:56.340
that probably 40% of the billing for these programs is fraudulent.

696
00:34:56.949 --> 00:34:59.769
And that's not evenly distributed around the country. That's not

697
00:34:59.849 --> 00:35:03.550
occurring in middle class suburbs mostly. So, I mean, if you,

698
00:35:03.889 --> 00:35:06.550
there's no reason Nick Shirley should be alone doing this, right?

699
00:35:06.889 --> 00:35:09.150
If you get the New York Times or government department

700
00:35:09.170 --> 00:35:11.909
like Doge or J.D. Vance's office on it, and you

701
00:35:11.929 --> 00:35:14.750
remove the people from these programs that shouldn't be on them,

702
00:35:15.369 --> 00:35:18.190
that's one good way to really reduce costs and get

703
00:35:18.230 --> 00:35:21.409
the economy booming. But there have to be practical right-wing

704
00:35:21.469 --> 00:35:23.489
solutions like that. Like we're not going to start a

705
00:35:23.530 --> 00:35:25.860
new program but we're going to trim this one down

706
00:35:25.900 --> 00:35:28.500
by 30%, and then we're going to increase benefits to you,

707
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:29.280
the actual citizen.

708
00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:30.380
I think that would be quite popular.

709
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.559
Well, you look at what happened in Florida. Florida decided

710
00:35:34.619 --> 00:35:37.460
to do something about it, and three years in a row, Will,

711
00:35:38.059 --> 00:35:41.699
their cost of running their government has gone down. I mean,

712
00:35:41.739 --> 00:35:43.780
that's unheard of in a blue state. They can't even

713
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.590
imagine that. But it just requires the desire and the

714
00:35:47.630 --> 00:35:51.429
commitment to do something about it and be responsible servants

715
00:35:51.710 --> 00:35:52.869
of their constituencies.

716
00:35:54.139 --> 00:35:56.369
Well, Florida, first of all, I will say dodged a bullet.

717
00:35:56.429 --> 00:35:59.889
I mean, you had a race in 2016 between Ron

718
00:35:59.929 --> 00:36:02.849
DeSantis and Andrew Gillum that looked like just a race

719
00:36:02.889 --> 00:36:07.690
between two ambitious men. Gillum, obviously, a blue Democrat, but nonetheless,

720
00:36:07.730 --> 00:36:11.980
a local Black leader, churchman, and well-known investor. But he

721
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turned out to be a gay crystal meth user. So,

722
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I mean, like, he lost by a quarter percent of

723
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a vote. And everyone's like, oh, he's coming for DeSantis

724
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next election. This is going to be a tough race

725
00:36:19.940 --> 00:36:22.610
for Ron D., And then his opponents founded a motel

726
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room with male prostitutes. Anyway, Florida got really lucky there

727
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because that would have come out at some point. But

728
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the reality is, yeah, these programs, once you identify the

729
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probable level of fraud or you identify things you're willing

730
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to cut, and there should be some, it's not necessarily

731
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hard to streamline these programs. My only point is that

732
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government financial savings are not primarily going to come from

733
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the sort of stuff like my good buddy Rand Paul

734
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will try to have. We spent $ 50 million seeing how

735
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chickens react to cocaine so we can think about how

736
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to regulate the behavior.

737
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Of women in nightclubs. That's a real study.

738
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It turns out that chickens get more sexual and they

739
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don't stop chattering or however they communicate. I mean, the

740
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stereotype's right there. But the whole point, though, is that

741
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that kind of thing is not most of the government's budget.

742
00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:18.230
The budget is mostly Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, and war.

743
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And those are all very hard to cut. 11% of

744
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the budget is just interest on the national debt. But

745
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there is stuff there we can take out.

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Of course, the celebrated author, Taboo 10 Facts You Can

815
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Talk About, Lies My Liberal Teacher Taught Me. I guess

816
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we're kind of overdue for another book, aren't you? You

817
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got one kind of bumbling?

818
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Yeah, I think HarperCollins also feels we're a little overdue.

819
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I'm like a month and a half late with it.

820
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Oh, I shouldn't have brought that up.

821
00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:49.630
I'm sorry.

822
00:41:49.869 --> 00:41:53.030
No, that's totally fine. But the next book is called

823
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Confidently Wronged. And it looks at something that we've both

824
00:41:56.329 --> 00:41:59.969
described seeing happen in the markets, which is that in business,

825
00:42:00.530 --> 00:42:04.070
people don't take academic predictions seriously at all. The idea

826
00:42:04.090 --> 00:42:06.130
is that this is all nonsense. People will say, you know,

827
00:42:06.210 --> 00:42:08.190
one month you're supposed to drink wine, one month you're not.

828
00:42:08.690 --> 00:42:12.289
That's actually really problematic in that you have whole fields

829
00:42:12.349 --> 00:42:16.050
like economics and political science that are supposed to predict war,

830
00:42:16.070 --> 00:42:20.300
stock market downturn, so on. But they've consistently missed things,

831
00:42:20.449 --> 00:42:22.929
even my field, like the collapse of the Soviet Union.

832
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So this book looks at why this is. We look

833
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at 10 major predictions, like the Club of Rome, the

834
00:42:28.329 --> 00:42:31.889
population bomb, more recently the COVID numbers, that were off

835
00:42:31.949 --> 00:42:34.949
by just orders of magnitude. And I try to figure

836
00:42:34.989 --> 00:42:38.210
out why that's so frequent, why we have a replication crisis.

837
00:42:38.869 --> 00:42:42.010
What I basically come to is the idea that in

838
00:42:42.090 --> 00:42:45.349
every kind of academic paper, there are two or three models.

839
00:42:45.389 --> 00:42:48.289
There's the best case, the likely case, the worst case.

840
00:42:49.019 --> 00:42:52.820
The media seems to almost always, about 98% of the time,

841
00:42:52.940 --> 00:42:58.230
publicize the worst case, which is 1% likely. So this

842
00:42:58.289 --> 00:43:02.030
entire climate of kind of upper middle class fear has

843
00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:05.409
been generated around that, where you see things like AOC,

844
00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:09.079
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, saying, well, of course, the world's going to

845
00:43:09.139 --> 00:43:09.960
end in 12 years.

846
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:11.900
And people hear that and believe it.

847
00:43:12.219 --> 00:43:15.059
The actual reality is that if we don't stop climate

848
00:43:15.099 --> 00:43:17.800
change via a nuke or whatever within 12 years, the

849
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.829
planet is definitely going to increase in temperature by one degree.

850
00:43:21.349 --> 00:43:22.230
We're not going to be able.

851
00:43:22.110 --> 00:43:25.130
To beat one degree over 100 years or whatever it is,

852
00:43:25.389 --> 00:43:27.329
but we're not all going to die. So the book

853
00:43:27.349 --> 00:43:29.469
looks at these predictions, and one of the core themes

854
00:43:29.550 --> 00:43:31.469
is sort of just stop being so afraid.

855
00:43:31.809 --> 00:43:33.630
It's not real. It's never what it sounds like.

856
00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:39.159
Yeah, it's that fear factor, right? When you write it out,

857
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.820
it's false evidence appearing real. And that's the definition of

858
00:43:43.900 --> 00:43:47.420
fear here. And of course, the media, because they're selling

859
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.690
the headline. They take something like that that can be

860
00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:57.250
exaggerated and get people's attention. But it's unfortunate because if

861
00:43:57.289 --> 00:44:00.139
you're not discerning and you're not wise enough, then you

862
00:44:00.219 --> 00:44:03.880
buy into this hysteria. And what are you doing? Are

863
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.420
you smarter or dumber as a result? Thank you very

864
00:44:06.460 --> 00:44:07.559
much to the mainstream media.

865
00:44:08.380 --> 00:44:10.280
Well, I think you're usually dumber as a result of

866
00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:12.239
the mainstream media. And that's one of the things in

867
00:44:12.260 --> 00:44:14.139
the book, like that's a real problem.

868
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:18.619
Like if you read academic papers and you watch CNN

869
00:44:18.659 --> 00:44:21.760
and Fox, Fox is not as bad, but in you

870
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.840
read the New York Times, the idea is that you

871
00:44:23.940 --> 00:44:26.380
should be getting more intelligent, right?

872
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.780
Like you should know what's going to happen. But in fact,

873
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.559
you're often.

874
00:44:29.469 --> 00:44:32.969
Less likely to accurately evaluate what's going to happen. Like

875
00:44:33.010 --> 00:44:35.829
you overhype a crime, at least is still a pretty

876
00:44:35.869 --> 00:44:38.340
big risk. But you overhype the risk of crime. And

877
00:44:38.380 --> 00:44:39.900
more than that, you overhype the risk.

878
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.460
Of very tiny, minor threats out there.

879
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.480
And that's a pattern that incorporates not just climate change,

880
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.219
but I can probably think of 10 of these off

881
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.909
the top of my head. I mean, killer bees and

882
00:44:50.929 --> 00:44:55.510
the great northerly migration, right? I mean, global cooling before

883
00:44:55.550 --> 00:44:58.610
global warming. The hole in the ozone layer that made

884
00:44:58.630 --> 00:45:01.090
your girl in high school throw her hairspray away.

885
00:45:01.650 --> 00:45:02.570
Y2K.

886
00:45:02.929 --> 00:45:05.880
I mean, all the heterosexuals were going to get AIDS.

887
00:45:06.369 --> 00:45:08.190
I remember one of my coaches, and this might have

888
00:45:08.210 --> 00:45:11.389
done some good for us, but panicked everyone with the

889
00:45:11.429 --> 00:45:13.530
idea of, you know, get too intimate with your girlfriend.

890
00:45:13.550 --> 00:45:14.969
There's this new killer disease.

891
00:45:15.389 --> 00:45:17.730
And you now understand that if you're a white or

892
00:45:17.869 --> 00:45:21.900
black heterosexual male in the Midwest, you have a one

893
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.380
in multiple thousands chance of catching HIV in your life.

894
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.000
But all these panics came down the pike and they

895
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.840
were all wrong. I guess the point is, you know,

896
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.840
watch more carefully, but it also is Media sources and, yes,

897
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.920
academic sources, including me, need to do a better job

898
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:39.300
of conveying the truth.

899
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:41.820
You're not just trying to get grant money by scaring people.

900
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.190
But that's become this huge boogaloo in the corner of

901
00:45:45.210 --> 00:45:46.809
the room, and it's pretty problematic.

902
00:45:47.369 --> 00:45:48.989
Well, and as you said, and I'm glad you brought

903
00:45:49.010 --> 00:45:51.909
that up because I was going to say grant money

904
00:45:52.010 --> 00:45:55.030
plays a big part in all this stuff. It influences.

905
00:45:55.090 --> 00:45:57.210
I mean, look what we went through with COVID. And

906
00:45:57.250 --> 00:46:00.250
you're seeing, I mean, you're going to tell me that Dr.

907
00:46:00.309 --> 00:46:03.969
Fauci didn't manipulate grant money to, you know, come up

908
00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:07.150
with a kind of conclusions that was supporting his, you know,

909
00:46:07.190 --> 00:46:10.469
his theories and his interest. I mean, that's clearly what's

910
00:46:10.510 --> 00:46:11.369
come out, I believe.

911
00:46:11.389 --> 00:46:14.739
Yeah, there are a bunch of things. There are grants themselves.

912
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.019
There's media coverage. There are reasons to promote fear. Like

913
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.199
no one writes stories about all the planes that land, right? So,

914
00:46:21.219 --> 00:46:23.880
I mean, for a period of about five years, there

915
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:28.460
actually was massive institutional media coverage of plane crashes. And

916
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.920
that was one of those things people became very afraid of.

917
00:46:31.300 --> 00:46:33.500
But again, I mean, I think academics should do better

918
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.199
on that. Reporters should do better on that. Flying in

919
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.269
a plane is at least somewhat safer than driving even today.

920
00:46:39.969 --> 00:46:40.710
But Dr.

921
00:46:40.769 --> 00:46:44.250
Fauci in particular has played a big role in multiple

922
00:46:44.309 --> 00:46:47.409
scares like this. Like, I looked back to see, I

923
00:46:47.449 --> 00:46:51.170
read Michael Fermento's The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS, where he says, look,

924
00:46:51.230 --> 00:46:52.949
I mean, you know, treat your girlfriend well, but no,

925
00:46:53.010 --> 00:46:54.909
you're not, you're both virgins.

926
00:46:54.929 --> 00:46:56.480
You're in high school, like, you're not going to catch

927
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:57.619
HIV from this stuff.

928
00:46:58.739 --> 00:47:04.559
But he at one point mentions the panic-mongering head of

929
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:06.159
kind of the AIDS board.

930
00:47:05.900 --> 00:47:07.980
Set up by, I think, Bush, and it was Dr. Fauci.

931
00:47:08.500 --> 00:47:12.050
So Fauci's been this sort of top American doctor who's

932
00:47:12.110 --> 00:47:13.809
really been fond of getting his name in the press.

933
00:47:14.420 --> 00:47:20.920
For quite a while. Like if you look at bird flu, Fauci, AIDS, Fauci, COVID, Fauci,

934
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:22.380
I think monkeypox was Fauci.

935
00:47:22.900 --> 00:47:25.679
So with him kind of stepping down, we'll get to

936
00:47:25.699 --> 00:47:27.960
see if the next set of docs are a little more,

937
00:47:28.340 --> 00:47:30.880
maybe behind the scenes, a little more willing to be restrained.

938
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.860
But he's been a public figure for quite a while.

939
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:34.800
Well, and going back to what you were saying, I mean,

940
00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:37.380
the basis of all this is where's the truth? And,

941
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:41.929
you know, it's like when they had the the hearing,

942
00:47:41.949 --> 00:47:45.570
the recent congressional hearings with Dr. Fauci, who kept taking

943
00:47:45.610 --> 00:47:48.829
the fifth, the Democrats kept circling the wagons and talking

944
00:47:48.849 --> 00:47:51.570
about all this great work he did on AIDS, for example.

945
00:47:51.989 --> 00:47:57.840
And my best awareness and recall of what he did

946
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:01.380
with AIDS wasn't all that great, but they tried to

947
00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:03.320
make it seem like he was, you know, he was

948
00:48:03.380 --> 00:48:07.239
a hero, you know, in combating AIDS. And that's not

949
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:08.030
what I remember.

950
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:11.780
Yeah, well, one thing that we got very lucky on

951
00:48:11.820 --> 00:48:14.280
with kind of Fauci and that media-seeking team there, and

952
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:15.860
I mean, from what I've heard, Fauci is a good

953
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:19.179
in-practice doctor, but he didn't respond well to these crises.

954
00:48:19.219 --> 00:48:22.480
That's absolutely correct. One thing we got very lucky.

955
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:27.829
With is that the fatality rate, the IFR, infection fatality rate,

956
00:48:27.869 --> 00:48:31.110
for all of these diseases, monkeypox and so on, was much.

957
00:48:31.110 --> 00:48:32.469
Lower than we initially thought it was.

958
00:48:32.949 --> 00:48:35.730
Like if COVID or HIV had been as infectious as

959
00:48:35.769 --> 00:48:38.449
Fauci believed, tens of millions of people would have died

960
00:48:38.530 --> 00:48:43.039
because we actually did not respond all that well. With HIV,

961
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:45.739
it's hard to talk about this without really breaking the

962
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.300
family show boundaries, but AIDS is not very easily transmissible.

963
00:48:50.820 --> 00:48:53.920
In the 1990s, I remember the scare pitch that was.

964
00:48:53.860 --> 00:48:56.929
Made to young men, and very often- I think this

965
00:48:56.949 --> 00:48:58.710
probably would have been like by your coach or by

966
00:48:58.750 --> 00:49:01.039
your priest for obvious reasons. But it was sort of

967
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.579
like mosquitoes or potential risk carriers, any sex in high

968
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:09.159
school or college with just normal women without many partners.

969
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:12.969
That's a risk. So on down the line, blood transfusions.

970
00:49:13.710 --> 00:49:15.929
And look what they said about Magic Johnson, remember?

971
00:49:17.130 --> 00:49:17.349
Yeah.

972
00:49:17.489 --> 00:49:19.429
And I have my questions about that.

973
00:49:19.469 --> 00:49:22.440
I mean, it's... again, I don't know Magic Johnson, but

974
00:49:22.500 --> 00:49:27.619
like homosexuality appears to be genetic. A Magic Johnson's son

975
00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:30.800
is a very well-known gay model right now. So Magic's

976
00:49:30.820 --> 00:49:35.230
whole pitch was I had unprotected heterosexual sex with normal women,

977
00:49:35.289 --> 00:49:36.090
nurses in L.A.

978
00:49:36.489 --> 00:49:38.610
And that's how I got AIDS. Is that true?

979
00:49:39.170 --> 00:49:43.369
I don't know if anyone knows, but the risk of

980
00:49:43.469 --> 00:49:50.230
transmission of HIV during normal vaginal sex is one in 10,000.

981
00:49:50.230 --> 00:49:52.769
Something like that. It's extraordinarily low.

982
00:49:52.809 --> 00:49:55.769
Now that's if that person has AIDS, to clarify, like

983
00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:57.090
most people don't have AIDS.

984
00:49:57.769 --> 00:50:01.769
So this was an isolated disease of, there were specific groups.

985
00:50:01.789 --> 00:50:04.739
There was the gay community, There were people who enjoyed

986
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:08.000
out in San Francisco and L.A. basically orchards, like swingers,

987
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.500
that kind of thing. And then there were hemophiliacs who

988
00:50:10.579 --> 00:50:14.139
required blood transfusions with full penetration of a needle. And

989
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.969
those groups were hit very hard. The campaign, though, to

990
00:50:18.050 --> 00:50:21.530
paint HIV as a broader risk so we didn't stereotype people,

991
00:50:22.170 --> 00:50:25.429
probably just panicked a whole lot of people and cost lives,

992
00:50:25.489 --> 00:50:28.849
if anything. What saved us was just that it's fairly

993
00:50:28.889 --> 00:50:31.010
hard to get AIDS. And it's the same thing with COVID-19.

994
00:50:31.510 --> 00:50:35.170
The IFRs from COVID that we were initially getting reflected

995
00:50:35.289 --> 00:50:38.949
very sick people that were packed into these hospitals in

996
00:50:39.010 --> 00:50:41.710
New York and Chicago. So three or four percent of

997
00:50:41.730 --> 00:50:45.309
people are dying. Well, yeah, they're seniors in this horrible environment.

998
00:50:45.789 --> 00:50:48.820
The actual IFR for COVID seems to have been around 0.1

999
00:50:48.820 --> 00:50:51.960
or 0.2, which is two or three times the flu.

1000
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.019
So when that hit the heartland where there was open space,

1001
00:50:55.059 --> 00:50:57.559
you could take a senior home you started seeing those

1002
00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.860
death totals drop dramatically.

1003
00:51:00.219 --> 00:51:02.000
And that's where we stayed.

1004
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:05.699
So it wasn't, it was medical reality and the normal

1005
00:51:05.739 --> 00:51:09.989
behavior of ordinary people that saved us. It wasn't the

1006
00:51:10.219 --> 00:51:12.570
stand six feet apart and that sort of thing.

1007
00:51:13.250 --> 00:51:13.449
Right.

1008
00:51:13.869 --> 00:51:16.329
Well, this is, you know, there's a lot to be

1009
00:51:16.389 --> 00:51:19.530
said about the herd mentality, you know, in terms of

1010
00:51:19.710 --> 00:51:23.750
herd experience, because Dr. Fauci, you know, he specifically said

1011
00:51:23.789 --> 00:51:29.570
that you know, you couldn't rely on your own immune systems,

1012
00:51:29.969 --> 00:51:32.130
that it would only last maybe for a couple of weeks.

1013
00:51:32.150 --> 00:51:34.800
I think I told you in my personal story, after

1014
00:51:35.070 --> 00:51:40.179
I had gotten COVID, I specifically monitor it. And my

1015
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.860
T-cell readings were very robust, you know, two and a

1016
00:51:44.860 --> 00:51:48.579
half years on to three years. So, you know, so

1017
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:52.719
it was, and I'm only one experiment. I'm one person's

1018
00:51:52.780 --> 00:51:56.590
experience here. And I'm saying two to three weeks versus

1019
00:51:56.670 --> 00:52:02.090
almost three years of, you know, a vital immune system.

1020
00:52:02.110 --> 00:52:04.690
You know, something's not squaring up here, Will.

1021
00:52:05.989 --> 00:52:08.650
Yeah, well, I think that a part of many panics

1022
00:52:08.769 --> 00:52:11.530
is that people forget obvious things that sort of they

1023
00:52:11.570 --> 00:52:14.869
and their father always knew that are clearly correct. So

1024
00:52:14.889 --> 00:52:17.929
like the idea that you have an immune system and

1025
00:52:17.969 --> 00:52:20.170
if you already have a disease, you won't get the

1026
00:52:20.210 --> 00:52:23.090
disease again, goes back to having chicken pox as a kid.

1027
00:52:23.469 --> 00:52:27.369
It's something everybody knows. And with COVID-19, we were expected

1028
00:52:27.389 --> 00:52:30.070
to forget that. The idea was, well, we don't know.

1029
00:52:30.150 --> 00:52:32.010
We don't know if immunity exists. We don't know if

1030
00:52:32.030 --> 00:52:35.789
herd immunity exists. So take the vaccine. I actually am

1031
00:52:35.849 --> 00:52:38.389
not as outraged about the vaccine as a lot of

1032
00:52:38.409 --> 00:52:41.150
people on the right. I think the risks were higher

1033
00:52:41.210 --> 00:52:43.510
than COVID if you were young, lower than COVID if

1034
00:52:43.550 --> 00:52:45.670
you were old. But again, bear in mind, the risk

1035
00:52:45.710 --> 00:52:49.309
of COVID was 0.1 percent. So we certainly shouldn't have

1036
00:52:49.349 --> 00:52:50.849
mandated that at all.

1037
00:52:51.369 --> 00:52:52.530
But I doubt that.

1038
00:52:52.730 --> 00:52:54.789
Well, there were lessons to be learned, Will, and hopefully

1039
00:52:54.849 --> 00:52:56.949
we've learned them. So the next time they try to

1040
00:52:57.010 --> 00:53:00.050
do this to us, we're just going to say, hell no. And,

1041
00:53:00.570 --> 00:53:02.469
you know, that's it. We got to leave it there.

1042
00:53:02.710 --> 00:53:05.349
He's the professor of political science at Kentucky State University

1043
00:53:05.369 --> 00:53:08.050
and the author of Taboo, 10 Facts You Can't Talk

1044
00:53:08.110 --> 00:53:11.260
About and Lies My Liberal Teacher Taught Me, Dr. Wilford Riley.

1045
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:12.199
Thank you, Will. Take care.

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Music Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez live.

1070
00:54:29.449 --> 00:54:31.750
Well, good afternoon, America. Glad you could join us. I'm

1071
00:54:31.769 --> 00:54:34.110
Bill Martinez. We got Dr. George Farid going to be

1072
00:54:34.150 --> 00:54:36.260
joining us in just a moment. An incredible story as

1073
00:54:36.300 --> 00:54:38.800
we go back. If you remember, it was several years ago,

1074
00:54:38.820 --> 00:54:42.460
the start of COVID, when we talked to Dr. Farid,

1075
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.300
and then he followed up with this incredible book, The

1076
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.800
Miracle of Imperial Valley. And we're going to talk about that,

1077
00:54:48.860 --> 00:54:54.010
talk about the implications of the hearing, the committee hearing

1078
00:54:54.090 --> 00:54:59.230
with Dr. Fauci, because the history is rich. And Dr.

1079
00:54:59.289 --> 00:55:02.610
Farid was there from the very beginning. He was saving

1080
00:55:02.750 --> 00:55:07.610
souls and keeping people away from ventilators. And just like

1081
00:55:07.690 --> 00:55:09.010
I said, an incredible story.

1082
00:55:09.570 --> 00:55:09.849
Dr.

1083
00:55:09.889 --> 00:55:11.969
George Farid, good to have you with us. God bless you.

1084
00:55:12.630 --> 00:55:14.449
It's great to be with you, Bill. And thanks for

1085
00:55:14.510 --> 00:55:18.389
all you do. And it's my privilege. Thank you.

1086
00:55:19.050 --> 00:55:19.369
Dr.

1087
00:55:19.389 --> 00:55:23.679
Frey, just to remind everybody, let's talk about what it

1088
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:28.280
was like day one when all the COVID mandates came

1089
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:34.360
out and you got Dr. Fauci, Anthony Fauci, declaring himself

1090
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:35.320
as science, right?

1091
00:55:36.150 --> 00:55:39.630
Well, yeah, that's what's so disillusioning in that I'm sort

1092
00:55:39.670 --> 00:55:44.420
of a contemporary of Fauci and that I, in my history,

1093
00:55:44.539 --> 00:55:49.099
I was in the public health service after my internship

1094
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:53.940
in medicine in Boston and I worked at the NIAID,

1095
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:59.690
which he became the director of for 37 odd years. Yeah,

1096
00:55:59.789 --> 00:56:01.769
and he was building his empire then and he's a

1097
00:56:01.849 --> 00:56:05.219
few years older than I am, but In any case,

1098
00:56:05.380 --> 00:56:09.119
I gave respect to those institutions throughout my career, and

1099
00:56:09.260 --> 00:56:16.510
I went on idealistically in my work. And in that era,

1100
00:56:16.610 --> 00:56:22.889
I was working on SV40 that became an infamous feature

1101
00:56:22.909 --> 00:56:26.989
of the Moderna vaccine or Pfizer vaccine, one of them

1102
00:56:27.010 --> 00:56:31.519
that uses still the Ori of SV40 being in the

1103
00:56:31.699 --> 00:56:35.510
plasmid that people were exposed to. And I actually was

1104
00:56:35.570 --> 00:56:40.369
a discoverer in that era long ago of the Ori

1105
00:56:40.429 --> 00:56:44.550
of SV40. That was my claim to fame. And I

1106
00:56:44.590 --> 00:56:48.769
never thought 50 years later I would be dealing with

1107
00:56:48.809 --> 00:56:52.230
that again in some ways. But I'm glad I didn't

1108
00:56:52.309 --> 00:56:55.659
stay with that and went into real clinical medicine. We're

1109
00:56:55.860 --> 00:56:58.920
in the trenches for 36 years now in the Imperial

1110
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:07.269
Valley of California with great communities and great doctors hardworking

1111
00:57:07.750 --> 00:57:10.170
in the trenches. We knew what to do. And getting

1112
00:57:10.230 --> 00:57:14.769
back to the history now that relates to this discussion, Bill,

1113
00:57:15.389 --> 00:57:20.369
in 2020, we saw the wave of COVID coming on.

1114
00:57:21.059 --> 00:57:23.969
And we were told by Fauci that there was no

1115
00:57:24.070 --> 00:57:27.510
treatment for it. And we were told by others that

1116
00:57:27.570 --> 00:57:30.150
you just let them ride it out and maybe go

1117
00:57:30.170 --> 00:57:37.260
to the hospital, get intubated if they deteriorate. And ironically,

1118
00:57:37.340 --> 00:57:43.800
I mean, shockingly, Fauci himself had in 2005, in working

1119
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:50.219
on SARS, described hydroxychloroquine as the preventive and treatment of

1120
00:57:50.340 --> 00:57:57.260
coronavirus infections. And yet, when we started, we turned to

1121
00:57:57.420 --> 00:58:01.860
hydroxychloroquine because there was evidence it would be beneficial. Exactly.

1122
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:07.150
Didier Raoult in France and our great colleague who passed away, Zelensky,

1123
00:58:07.690 --> 00:58:13.630
or not Zelensky, but Zeb Zelenko, who's a friend of

1124
00:58:13.690 --> 00:58:18.349
mine and a leader in our country. they had protocols

1125
00:58:18.389 --> 00:58:21.170
where it was very effective. And when it hit us

1126
00:58:21.269 --> 00:58:26.230
in the Imperial Valley, Brian Tyson, my great partner, and

1127
00:58:26.389 --> 00:58:34.440
I developed our own protocol with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, vitamin D3,

1128
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:42.380
doxycycline or azithromycin and vitamin C and hydration and steroids

1129
00:58:42.460 --> 00:58:47.250
if needed. But our protocol was 100% effective And Fauci

1130
00:58:47.309 --> 00:58:51.559
was saying and trying to prevent anyone from knowing that,

1131
00:58:51.820 --> 00:58:54.079
which was, I'll never forgive him for that.

1132
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.920
Well, because that was the basis for him to convince

1133
00:58:58.940 --> 00:59:02.380
the president we needed an emergency authorization.

1134
00:59:01.739 --> 00:59:02.219
Use, right?

1135
00:59:02.659 --> 00:59:06.889
Because you could not have the EAU if there was

1136
00:59:07.110 --> 00:59:12.619
already protocol or there was... you know, relief for the problem, right?

1137
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:18.380
Yeah, exactly, Bill. So well stated. Well, we were getting

1138
00:59:18.420 --> 00:59:23.369
such great results. We became visible nationally and internationally, Brian

1139
00:59:23.409 --> 00:59:27.010
Hudson and myself and our community, which was the epicenter

1140
00:59:27.030 --> 00:59:31.889
for California. And we eventually had thousands of great results

1141
00:59:32.130 --> 00:59:37.000
of patients cured and prevented from hospitalization. And so I

1142
00:59:37.099 --> 00:59:40.039
had the honor of being invited to speak about this

1143
00:59:40.059 --> 00:59:47.809
in the Senate in November 2020. And I thought that

1144
00:59:47.869 --> 00:59:50.869
that might turn the corner on it, but it was

1145
00:59:51.699 --> 00:59:56.000
a deafness by Fauci and these others, CDC and others

1146
00:59:56.059 --> 01:00:01.639
who were going toward this vaccine approach that... quasi-vaccine, actually

1147
01:00:01.699 --> 01:00:03.679
a gene therapy. Right.

1148
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.300
Well, it says a lot about fear, right? It says

1149
01:00:06.340 --> 01:00:08.730
a lot about fear, that fear would close you off

1150
01:00:08.750 --> 01:00:10.650
from hearing the good news.

1151
01:00:10.710 --> 01:00:16.030
Very disillusioning, but we proceeded and we eventually treated maybe 20,000

1152
01:00:16.030 --> 01:00:20.789
cases in our community or and from other areas when

1153
01:00:20.809 --> 01:00:23.590
we were contacted. And we wrote a book about this,

1154
01:00:23.750 --> 01:00:27.650
and I'm very proud of that book, published in 2020,

1155
01:00:27.650 --> 01:00:33.309
Overcoming the COVID Darkness, How Two Doctors Successfully Treated 7,000,

1156
01:00:33.309 --> 01:00:38.510
but we really treated 20,000, with none being dying or

1157
01:00:38.909 --> 01:00:42.800
getting intubated and being hospitalized. if treated early, if treated

1158
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.820
within the first five to seven days of the infection.

1159
01:00:46.260 --> 01:00:51.239
And many were later presenting to us and doing very well. However,

1160
01:00:52.019 --> 01:00:58.619
Fauci's hearing prompted Brian and myself to decide to make

1161
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:02.329
a new book, a new edition of this or a sequel.

1162
01:01:03.469 --> 01:01:07.610
with a lot of great contributors. It'll be about 18

1163
01:01:07.610 --> 01:01:11.090
of the best doctors that are in the field of

1164
01:01:11.190 --> 01:01:15.349
infectious diseases and general medicine contributing as well as in

1165
01:01:15.409 --> 01:01:21.329
other areas that we've worked with throughout the pandemic years

1166
01:01:21.429 --> 01:01:25.050
and even continually. But in any case, the book will

1167
01:01:25.409 --> 01:01:30.139
hopefully be completed by the end of this year, Overcoming

1168
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.699
the COVID Darkness, 2027, I think will be the title.

1169
01:01:35.179 --> 01:01:37.889
But that's where we stand. And one other thing that's

1170
01:01:37.949 --> 01:01:42.989
so important is that just this last week, Brian, who

1171
01:01:43.010 --> 01:01:47.010
was part of a lawsuit against the Attorney General of

1172
01:01:47.869 --> 01:01:55.090
California that was inflicting repression on doctors like myself, the

1173
01:01:55.130 --> 01:01:58.889
medical board was coming after Brian and myself and eventually

1174
01:01:58.909 --> 01:02:03.670
dropped the suit. But This lawsuit now, a federal judge

1175
01:02:03.829 --> 01:02:09.909
has provided a preliminary injunction against that lawyer, that Attorney

1176
01:02:09.949 --> 01:02:14.719
General of California, such that doctors like myself and Brian

1177
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.079
and others on the front lines can speak freely to

1178
01:02:19.340 --> 01:02:24.050
our patients. And as long as we don't have malpractice

1179
01:02:24.170 --> 01:02:28.420
or harm someone, we're not going to be subject to

1180
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:33.360
an attack by a medical board, an osteopathic board, or

1181
01:02:33.389 --> 01:02:38.349
another governing body. So it's a free speech issue also.

1182
01:02:39.010 --> 01:02:43.050
Well, it's also inherent to you as a medical doctor,

1183
01:02:43.389 --> 01:02:47.489
your Socratic oath to do no harm. And here you

1184
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:50.780
are clearly aware that harm is being done to the

1185
01:02:50.820 --> 01:02:53.800
American people. I mean, after everything was said and done,

1186
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:55.940
over a million people died, Dr.

1187
01:02:55.980 --> 01:03:00.820
Fareed. Well, that and maybe 500,000 from the gene therapy

1188
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.380
vaccine that they don't like to talk about. They claim

1189
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:10.369
it's maybe 59,000. There should be no death from a vaccine.

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01:03:10.389 --> 01:03:16.369
And I had three patients who died post-vaccine, and many

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came to me with consequences of myocarditis or pericarditis or

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other side effects that impacted their lives in a horrible

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way that shouldn't have occurred. So the fact that the

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COVID-19 gene therapy vaccines are still out there and new

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mRNA vaccines are being approved by the FDA is just terrible,

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in my opinion.

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It would seem reckless in light of where we are.

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And now in understanding that Dr. Fauci wasn't forthright, He

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did harm. And, you know, that's one aspect that has

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to be handled by the Justice Department, by the government.

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There are many people here in America that are very upset.

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They lost loved ones. They didn't get a chance to

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say goodbye to them, Dr. Fareed, as they passed, right?

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And I saw that during the pandemic. I was working

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as a hospitalist in addition to the outpatient work. And

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it shook me to the core that the suffering that

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these people individuals had and the horrible endings like you've

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just stated.

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Yeah. And the thing is, is that the key of

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all this is what we always say, so that this

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doesn't happen again. And in order for it not to

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happen again, the whole truth and nothing but must be

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on the table, right?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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You're absolutely right.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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George Farid.

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He's the medical director, author of the book, Overcoming the

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COVID Darkness. I know when you and I talked early on,

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I had shared with you, I said, look it, I

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got COVID.

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And Dr.

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Fauci previously, you know, near to the time that I

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got COVID, had made the statement, I didn't get vaccinated.

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I didn't do any of the protocol that the government, Dr. Fauci,

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01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.930
anybody had. You know, all the the movie stars and

1303
01:09:56.010 --> 01:09:58.909
entertainment figures and everything that they had.

1304
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Brought to be involved in this conspiracy. Right.

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01:10:02.569 --> 01:10:06.210
And so but I wanted out of my own curiosity,

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01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:10.060
I wanted to test and run this out to see, OK,

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01:10:10.460 --> 01:10:13.460
what would happen with my immunity? Now, understand my immunity,

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as I shared with you, you might recall, is I

1309
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.220
don't have an appendix. My tonsils have been removed. So

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01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:21.159
I have to be a little bit more careful and

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01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.439
mindful of my immunity than most people who do still

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have their appendix and have their tonsils. And so I thought, okay, Dr.

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Fauci said, maybe a couple of weeks. If you're lucky,

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you might get a couple of months.

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Well, Dr.

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Freed, I continued to run tests on my immunity. And

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after three years, my T-cell count was as strong as ever.

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01:10:43.390 --> 01:10:48.689
Wonderful. Excellent. Yeah. The natural immunity was far more.

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01:10:50.220 --> 01:10:56.029
Elaborate and effective than this limited gene therapy vaccine immunity,

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01:10:56.090 --> 01:11:04.489
so-called immunity. And many people got recurrent infections despite multiple

1321
01:11:04.670 --> 01:11:10.369
boosters from these agents. It was a Russian roulette in

1322
01:11:10.390 --> 01:11:14.029
a way. And there was just no way that it

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01:11:14.090 --> 01:11:17.270
would be. I've never been in favor of anything that

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would have a chance of harming significantly or killing an individual.

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01:11:23.630 --> 01:11:27.170
And it's just pitiful to me to realize that that's

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what was being inflicted on the whole world.

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Right.

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Well, even Dr. Fauci reportedly had an adverse reaction, right?

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01:11:34.550 --> 01:11:36.409
Yeah. He had a pulmonary embolism.

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Yeah.

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And he had multiple recurrences of COVID-19 infection. And despite

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many bouts, many boosters, I presume. Yeah.

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And of course, it was him who said initially, if

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you get the vaccine, you won't get COVID.

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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And Rochelle Walensky said that also, who

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is the acting head of the CDC at the time.

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These are people who don't treat patients. In our hearing

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in 2020, the Democratic representative was someone a public health individual,

1339
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Ashish Jha, who never treated a COVID patient. And he

1340
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:24.199
came to present evidence that there was no good reason for,

1341
01:12:24.220 --> 01:12:28.810
no evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine. That was the main

1342
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component of our treatment, as was ivermectin in a multidrug

1343
01:12:36.069 --> 01:12:40.189
treatment regimen. And so they didn't know what they were

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talking about. And they were presenting information that was detrimental

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to the world.

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Well, and the situation, you know, I'm based in Florida,

1347
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and there was a patient in Miami that got some celebrity,

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so much so that even Donald Trump made reference to it.

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He was told, you know, two hours before his proposed

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death that he needed to call his family and talk

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to them for the last time. And after doing that,

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they came in and said, look, we got a Hail

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Mary here. It's called hydroxychloroquine. Would you be willing to

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try this? I'm dying. What do I got to lose?

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Well, he did.

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He did. And then two hours later, everything was reversed.

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And so this made the news. And here, particularly in

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the East, and Donald Trump made mention of it. And

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they all but scolded Donald Trump for even bringing it up.

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Right. I know it was really bad, very bad. And

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it was, we're in a situation where he just had

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bad advisors, terrible advisors, and he didn't, can't be blamed

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in my opinion. Right.

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Well, and again, the deception and it's clear, and we

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knew this early on because we had done some reporting

1366
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on it and research on it and understood that Dr.

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Fauci had in fact, invested in the Wuhan laboratory, then

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01:14:11.069 --> 01:14:14.470
he had high interest in gain of function, which is

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just a fancy term for biological warfare, in my humble opinion.

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He was funding this work by Ralph Baric, the man

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who actually genetically did most of the genetic engineering of

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COVID-19 to make it a pathogen for humans. And they did,

1373
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:38.399
and Luc Montagnier, before he died, the My hero and

1374
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:44.250
Nobel laureate for his discovery of HIV realized this and

1375
01:14:44.289 --> 01:14:47.050
tried to get this out also early on in the pandemic.

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And others who sequenced and looked at the genome of COVID-19,

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that it couldn't have come from nature. And it was

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all handled by this Barak and Dasik and Xu, I think,

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in Wuhan, but primarily Barak. And through the funding that

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he received, millions of dollars from the Department of War,

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01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:22.109
DOW and Fauci, NIAID. And it was, I don't see

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01:15:22.149 --> 01:15:24.689
how the guy like that could look at himself in

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the mirror when millions died as a consequence of his machinations.

1384
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Yeah, I don't know how you sleep at night. We're

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talking with the medical director, Dr. George Fareed. who he

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and his partner early on saw the dangers of COVID.

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His background was well-established and experienced to understand the kind

1388
01:15:44.689 --> 01:15:47.529
of protocols that should be involved. He wrote a book

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on it called The Miracle of the Imperial Valley. Early

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01:15:50.029 --> 01:15:55.289
treatment protocols saved thousands. I think over 7,000, we're saying

1391
01:15:55.329 --> 01:15:58.600
now 20,000 at the end of the day. All these

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patients grateful that they're not having to deal with the

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results of the vaccine that many today are dealing with that,

1394
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you know, Dr. Farid, we've got a lot of young

1395
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people in their 30s, some in their 20s, that suddenly

1396
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are dying and VARS is, you know, they're just not

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reporting on it in the way they should.

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No, you're absolutely right. We have actually turbo cancers occurring

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that the immune systems have been damaged in addition to

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the direct cardiac and neurological damage that causes death, premature

1401
01:16:37.449 --> 01:16:43.130
deaths in the population. But the book is titled Overcoming

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01:16:43.170 --> 01:16:46.569
the COVID Darkness. Yes. Not the miracle.

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01:16:46.729 --> 01:16:49.109
Oh, yeah, the miracle of the Imperial Valley is the

1404
01:16:49.149 --> 01:16:53.689
headline because it really is a miracle, no doubt about it.

1405
01:16:53.710 --> 01:16:55.109
But then you got a new book coming out.

1406
01:16:55.649 --> 01:16:57.829
Yeah, we do. And it's going to be even better.

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And it'll be very timely in terms of giving all

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the factual information that doctors and the general public need

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01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:10.649
to have and know that, and it's somewhat of a

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01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:16.310
stepping stone or it's a jumping board from the Fauci hearing.

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01:17:16.390 --> 01:17:22.229
And that's why Brian and I have decided to organize

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this book. Right.

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Well, Dr. Freed, what was it like for you when

1414
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Sacramento called you up to the star chamber and started

1415
01:17:30.130 --> 01:17:32.979
grilling you with the threat of losing your license?

1416
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:38.479
That was a terrible time, a very bad time in 2022, 2021, 2022.

1417
01:17:38.449 --> 01:17:43.689
And this is even after all the empirical evidence, all

1418
01:17:43.750 --> 01:17:46.760
the proof of saving lives and doing all the great

1419
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.960
things that you and Dr. Tyson did, right?

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01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:55.779
Yeah, it was. And they used reasons for doing so

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01:17:55.899 --> 01:17:59.979
after me and for Brian did. based upon what we

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were saying to people like you. And for instance, I

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spoke at school board meetings and community gatherings and telling

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We're talking with Dr. George Farid, author.

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Of the book, He and His Partner.

1495
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Brian Tyson wrote the book, Overcoming the COVID Darkness. He

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is a medical director. He's got a new book that

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he's following up that's going to be released shortly. In

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this book, he says, our mission is to help people

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understand the critical importance of early COVID-19 treatment because there

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may be harsh surges, he wrote then. The doctors say

1501
01:22:45.850 --> 01:22:49.800
on their website, We also hope that vaccination programs recognize

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01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:54.289
that COVID-19 variants will continue to arise in those who

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01:22:54.329 --> 01:23:00.050
have been vaccinated as long as vaccines fail to completely

1504
01:23:00.149 --> 01:23:04.329
block the infection. Well, here it is. This is happening.

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01:23:04.449 --> 01:23:08.090
I mean, this is the reality. What you saw, and

1506
01:23:08.569 --> 01:23:12.390
you weren't taking a shot here. This wasn't some theoretical idea.

1507
01:23:12.770 --> 01:23:19.069
This was based on your trench warfare experience and your

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01:23:19.109 --> 01:23:20.729
medical background, Dr. Fareed?

1509
01:23:21.329 --> 01:23:25.229
Well, thank you very much. That's correct. And it was

1510
01:23:25.289 --> 01:23:30.119
based upon evidence. So with experimental models of epidemics or

1511
01:23:30.140 --> 01:23:36.300
pandemics with viruses, there were published studies, and we cite

1512
01:23:36.340 --> 01:23:41.760
those in our book, with that very fact that A

1513
01:23:43.340 --> 01:23:47.619
mutable virus, a highly mutable virus can't be vaccinated against.

1514
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:53.720
HIV has never had a vaccine. And there's other viruses

1515
01:23:54.140 --> 01:23:57.880
in that category also. And so to think that you

1516
01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:03.899
could do this without recognizing what was readily available to

1517
01:24:04.460 --> 01:24:11.020
stop the suffering and the whole pandemic, with repurposed medications

1518
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:18.439
is terrible, just terrible, in that viruses like coronavirus are

1519
01:24:18.579 --> 01:24:23.199
very mutable, RNA viruses in general are mutable, and a

1520
01:24:23.859 --> 01:24:30.430
leaky vaccine will just promote variants coming up that may

1521
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:35.369
be more virulent or more harmful than the original form

1522
01:24:35.409 --> 01:24:38.949
of the virus. but certainly can continue to inflict the

1523
01:24:39.010 --> 01:24:45.789
clinical symptoms and syndromes that were present and just perpetuate

1524
01:24:45.909 --> 01:24:50.409
the pandemic. And that's what those did. Well, Dr.

1525
01:24:50.470 --> 01:24:56.079
Fareed, vaccinations came into the crosshairs, especially with RFK Jr.

1526
01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:59.539
He's been shouting from the rooftops for, it seems like, decades.

1527
01:25:00.060 --> 01:25:02.439
And now that he's part of the administration, he has

1528
01:25:02.460 --> 01:25:07.000
a bigger pulpit from which to speak from. you had

1529
01:25:07.060 --> 01:25:09.399
realized this. The challenge is, is that here we are

1530
01:25:09.460 --> 01:25:12.680
today and people are confused now. They go, what are

1531
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:15.659
good vaccines? What are bad vaccines? How do we know

1532
01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:16.279
the difference?

1533
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:21.760
That's right. Well, we need to have placebo controls to

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01:25:21.859 --> 01:25:25.300
know the difference, if they're good or bad, really, and

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01:25:25.420 --> 01:25:32.600
if they're safe and then the trials to show efficacy.

1536
01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:35.399
And most of the trials are very short term and

1537
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:40.050
they there are very small numbers that differentiate the vaccinated

1538
01:25:40.170 --> 01:25:47.409
from what they call the control groups. And so that's

1539
01:25:47.810 --> 01:25:52.520
a big issue for all vaccines. And children should not

1540
01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:58.060
be inflicted with 72 vaccines before they're in their teens

1541
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:01.000
or in their early ages, and particularly not before two

1542
01:26:01.020 --> 01:26:05.670
years of age. Vaccines should be delayed, in my opinion,

1543
01:26:05.810 --> 01:26:10.310
for children as long as possible and never given as

1544
01:26:10.430 --> 01:26:16.649
solvals of multiple vaccines in one. And that the benefit

1545
01:26:16.750 --> 01:26:22.350
may not be anything compared to the side effect or

1546
01:26:22.409 --> 01:26:27.649
the downside of those vaccines when they're given too early

1547
01:26:27.729 --> 01:26:34.199
and in too many doses combined. And that the pediatricians

1548
01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:39.140
have been incentivized to vaccinate according to the schedule that

1549
01:26:39.220 --> 01:26:43.479
has been established. And our country has done poorly compared

1550
01:26:43.500 --> 01:26:48.859
to other countries where delays have been made in childhood vaccination.

1551
01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:51.760
Well, that's a scary thought when you put in the

1552
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:55.000
same sentence doctors being incentivized.

1553
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:57.220
Yeah, it is. It really is.

1554
01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:00.760
Well, and the thing is, and I'm glad you brought

1555
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:03.739
this up. And that is that, you know, though we

1556
01:27:03.779 --> 01:27:06.340
strive for a more perfect union and to do better

1557
01:27:06.699 --> 01:27:09.850
tomorrow than we did, you know, yesterday or today, I

1558
01:27:10.930 --> 01:27:15.390
grant that, you know, we have made some mistakes along

1559
01:27:15.430 --> 01:27:18.369
the way. And you think we would learn from, you know,

1560
01:27:18.470 --> 01:27:23.569
some of these adverse reactions that, you know, have really, unfortunately,

1561
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.279
have put, you know, they say big pharma, you know,

1562
01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:30.739
the big pharma industrial complex into some jeopardy and questioning because,

1563
01:27:31.210 --> 01:27:36.050
we need to trust those that have a part or

1564
01:27:36.130 --> 01:27:39.649
participating in our biology and our health, right, Dr.

1565
01:27:39.710 --> 01:27:40.050
Farid?

1566
01:27:40.989 --> 01:27:41.930
Yeah, we do.

1567
01:27:42.270 --> 01:27:42.949
Absolutely.

1568
01:27:43.270 --> 01:27:48.090
And I was trusting for most much of my career

1569
01:27:49.109 --> 01:27:52.590
after I left academia and went and then came into

1570
01:27:52.649 --> 01:27:58.520
the trenches of real clinical medicine. And, and, felt that

1571
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:02.579
I was being guided by these authorities, but they didn't

1572
01:28:02.619 --> 01:28:08.069
guide properly. And the important point is that you need

1573
01:28:08.130 --> 01:28:12.710
to be cautious with anything that you give to an individual,

1574
01:28:13.310 --> 01:28:19.869
and you need to be using the results that are reliable.

1575
01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:24.479
And that's led me into a new area that I'm

1576
01:28:24.779 --> 01:28:29.449
really excited about that involves the use of repurposed medications

1577
01:28:29.510 --> 01:28:35.729
for cancer. And it's just so remarkable that these medicines

1578
01:28:35.869 --> 01:28:40.710
are multifunctional, like ivermectin in particular, and even hydroxychloroquine. But

1579
01:28:41.909 --> 01:28:48.649
the antiparasitic agents and certain supplements and other agents like

1580
01:28:48.729 --> 01:28:57.340
metformin and doxycycline, they have multiple functions that impact cancer cells.

1581
01:28:57.899 --> 01:29:01.739
And they're not necessarily what they're approved for. Like doxycycline

1582
01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:07.420
is an antibiotic or metformin is a medicine for diabetes mellitus.

1583
01:29:08.100 --> 01:29:13.779
And there are other nutraceuticals that are very helpful. So

1584
01:29:13.819 --> 01:29:18.520
I've been with the organization that Brian and I are

1585
01:29:18.939 --> 01:29:23.569
senior fellows with called the Independent Medical Alliance. We have

1586
01:29:23.670 --> 01:29:28.510
protocols for use of, on that protocol, in that organization,

1587
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:34.550
and it's readily available on their website, imahealth.org, in the

1588
01:29:34.590 --> 01:29:40.329
Cancer Hub, using repurposed medications for cancer. There's no downside

1589
01:29:40.369 --> 01:29:43.250
from them, and they can only be an upside, and

1590
01:29:43.289 --> 01:29:46.609
they need to be incorporated into the standard of care

1591
01:29:46.710 --> 01:29:48.649
with cancer patients, in my opinion.

1592
01:29:48.670 --> 01:29:52.770
Yeah, for some of our listeners, Dr. Freed, when they

1593
01:29:52.829 --> 01:29:56.649
hear repurposed medicine, Some of them, this may be the

1594
01:29:56.670 --> 01:29:59.170
first time that they've heard about this. But the fact

1595
01:29:59.189 --> 01:30:01.630
of the matter is, is, you know, for all the years,

1596
01:30:02.029 --> 01:30:06.850
the decades of medical history and research and everything, I mean,

1597
01:30:07.380 --> 01:30:10.659
it's amazing what is on the shelf. And as you said,

1598
01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:14.300
thank God there are people looking into this and saying, hey,

1599
01:30:14.380 --> 01:30:18.340
look at this has application. This has been approved for

1600
01:30:18.380 --> 01:30:24.380
a specific issue, but it can be repurposed. for a

1601
01:30:24.500 --> 01:30:28.060
current ailment or disease that we're dealing with, right?

1602
01:30:28.630 --> 01:30:34.390
That's correct. That's exactly the best way of describing that.

1603
01:30:34.750 --> 01:30:39.529
And these are agents that are generic. There's no profit

1604
01:30:39.590 --> 01:30:43.800
in them, and they're inexpensive. And they've been tried and

1605
01:30:43.850 --> 01:30:47.300
true for what they were approved for, like hydroxychloroquine was

1606
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:54.430
approved for as an anti-malarial agent. Billions of doses were

1607
01:30:54.489 --> 01:30:59.109
administered for malaria treatment, but it was approved also for

1608
01:30:59.170 --> 01:31:04.850
rheumatoid condition as a repurposed medication for the immune system

1609
01:31:04.970 --> 01:31:09.090
to counter the overactive immune system. And then it has

1610
01:31:09.329 --> 01:31:17.689
the tried and true mechanism. This is what led DDA

1611
01:31:17.770 --> 01:31:21.710
Raoul to using it in, actually before we used it,

1612
01:31:21.810 --> 01:31:27.130
when they were having COVID breakout in Marseille and in France,

1613
01:31:27.770 --> 01:31:30.710
a month or two before it hit the West Coast

1614
01:31:30.770 --> 01:31:35.210
of the United States. He had the protocol that guided us,

1615
01:31:35.930 --> 01:31:40.970
and he had previously studied patients with Q fever Another,

1616
01:31:40.989 --> 01:31:46.829
a bacterial infection responsive to hydroxychloroquine and doxycycline. And he

1617
01:31:46.890 --> 01:31:52.350
would treat these patients with the hydroxychloroquine for 12 months

1618
01:31:52.449 --> 01:31:58.250
daily with 600 milligrams a day. And for rheumatoid arthritis,

1619
01:31:58.329 --> 01:32:02.670
it's 200 milligrams twice a day. And so we were

1620
01:32:02.750 --> 01:32:06.789
using 600 milligrams or 800 milligrams, well, 600 milligrams in

1621
01:32:06.890 --> 01:32:08.689
our protocol with.

1622
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:16.300
Our COVID patients. And yet it eradicated this Q fever

1623
01:32:16.340 --> 01:32:22.640
that had no treatment. He's attributed the discoverer of the

1624
01:32:22.699 --> 01:32:27.020
proper treatment, Didier Raoul, and he was castigated in France.

1625
01:32:27.460 --> 01:32:32.649
And he eventually had to retire and close his, he

1626
01:32:32.750 --> 01:32:37.909
had the preeminent center in Marseille, France for infectious diseases

1627
01:32:38.029 --> 01:32:44.159
and he had documentation of probably 20, 30,000 successes with

1628
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:54.920
the azithromycin hydroxychloroquine protocol for COVID-19. And yet he was

1629
01:32:55.100 --> 01:32:58.949
under fire there as well. And this just shows the

1630
01:32:59.930 --> 01:33:04.750
immensity of the effort to drive forward the gene therapy

1631
01:33:04.810 --> 01:33:10.569
and the money-making efforts area that led to the plundering

1632
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of our treasury for the sake of these gene therapy

1633
01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:23.760
agents and the companies behind them. Very bad. That's just

1634
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part of the history that's so important that people don't know.

1635
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That we need to be aware of if we're going

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We're talking.

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With Dr. George Farid. He graduated from Harvard Medical School

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01:37:45.470 --> 01:37:50.100
with honors, completed a medical internship at Peter Bent Brigham Hospital,

1702
01:37:50.500 --> 01:37:54.140
has worked at NIAID, as he mentioned earlier, at Harvard

1703
01:37:54.180 --> 01:37:56.760
Medical School and at UCLA School of Medicine. He was

1704
01:37:56.800 --> 01:38:01.119
a founder and director of scientific planning of a biotech company,

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01:38:02.630 --> 01:38:07.069
International Genetic Engineering, Inc. Since 1991, Dr. Freed has worked

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01:38:07.130 --> 01:38:11.109
clinically in primary medical care in the Imperial Valley of California.

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01:38:11.409 --> 01:38:15.130
He's been on the front line for early COVID-19 treatment,

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01:38:15.489 --> 01:38:20.210
has practiced the whole spectrum of COVID-19 care, treating outpatients

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01:38:20.250 --> 01:38:23.789
as well as inpatients. As a hospitalist, he testified on

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01:38:23.829 --> 01:38:28.409
November 19, 2020, in a Senate hearing on early COVID-19 treatment.

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01:38:28.750 --> 01:38:34.430
He brought the receipts He brought the information of his

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01:38:34.529 --> 01:38:38.399
experience on the front line to the Senate. And unfortunately,

1713
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:42.409
there were not enough ears to hear. And I think

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01:38:42.460 --> 01:38:45.600
that part of what was blocking the ears of the

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01:38:45.659 --> 01:38:49.000
senators and so many others, as you kind of referred

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01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:51.430
to it, and I You know, we got to call

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01:38:51.470 --> 01:38:53.310
it out for what it is. I don't know what

1718
01:38:53.350 --> 01:38:56.689
else to call it, but pharmaceutical greed, you know, to

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01:38:57.210 --> 01:39:00.850
have already drugs, as you talked about, that could have

1720
01:39:00.869 --> 01:39:05.210
been easily repurposed. It would have negated the emergency authorization use.

1721
01:39:05.670 --> 01:39:07.649
It would have healed a lot of people a lot sooner.

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01:39:07.670 --> 01:39:10.970
I mean, even Dr. Tyson said, your partner said, had

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01:39:11.050 --> 01:39:14.789
we done a test and treatment and treat centers all

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01:39:14.829 --> 01:39:18.029
across the United States, we could have saved 80% of

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01:39:18.069 --> 01:39:21.810
the population that died from COVID-19. Think about that, Dr.

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01:39:21.850 --> 01:39:21.970
Reed.

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01:39:22.010 --> 01:39:22.710
That is huge.

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01:39:23.689 --> 01:39:27.319
It is huge. There's over a million died in the

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01:39:27.380 --> 01:39:31.319
United States from COVID-19, and 80% of those would have

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01:39:31.340 --> 01:39:35.479
been saved, if not more, actually. The earlier that it

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01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:39.199
had been made, the standard of care and the fever

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01:39:39.260 --> 01:39:43.130
clinics were set up, like Brian Tyson's urgent care clinics

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01:39:44.210 --> 01:39:49.109
around the United States with the early treatment protocols being offered.

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01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:55.140
that would have resulted in the cessation of the pandemic.

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01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:00.279
Well, greed abounded. There was no question. Not only in

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01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:05.619
big pharma, other areas, Dr. Fauci leveraged his position. He

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01:40:06.699 --> 01:40:12.090
utilized his power and authority to move taxpayer funds, to

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01:40:12.989 --> 01:40:17.779
come up with, you know, evidence as far as we're

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01:40:17.819 --> 01:40:23.430
realizing that it was then, of course, is now. As

1740
01:40:23.510 --> 01:40:26.829
it comes to daylight, we're realizing how these things were

1741
01:40:26.890 --> 01:40:29.210
manipulated and how we were lied to, Dr.

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01:40:29.250 --> 01:40:36.220
Fareed. Yes, exactly. It was very disillusioning. I was just

1743
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:41.869
here in the remote rural area of California doing clinical

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01:40:41.909 --> 01:40:44.850
work and doing the best thing I could in my

1745
01:40:44.890 --> 01:40:48.380
different areas. But, you know, it took over everything for

1746
01:40:48.819 --> 01:40:51.720
me and for Brian Tyson during that two or three

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01:40:51.739 --> 01:40:57.000
year period of time. And yet it just was so

1748
01:40:57.039 --> 01:41:02.250
disillusioning that this was the case. And I felt that

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01:41:02.409 --> 01:41:06.609
I had been a culprit in my own way of

1750
01:41:06.710 --> 01:41:14.100
not realizing this was going on. I'm an old-timer. I

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01:41:14.149 --> 01:41:18.130
plan to keep going for another 18 years until I'm 100.

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01:41:18.130 --> 01:41:20.970
I'm 82.

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01:41:20.949 --> 01:41:23.569
That was the question that I knew that was going

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01:41:23.590 --> 01:41:27.409
around the medical profession. A lot of doctors, because unfortunately,

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01:41:27.439 --> 01:41:32.020
this promoted early retirement for a lot of good doctors

1756
01:41:32.460 --> 01:41:36.939
across the country. How many thousands? Thousands of medical professionals

1757
01:41:36.979 --> 01:41:40.140
that we lost because of this kind of, you know,

1758
01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:43.260
this lie and what was causing them to do. And

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01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:46.779
they just knew that ethically on so many levels in

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01:41:46.819 --> 01:41:49.779
terms of their Socratic oath to do no harm, that

1761
01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:53.619
it was impinging on their ethos as medical professionals and

1762
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:55.880
they couldn't stand and retired. But one of the things

1763
01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.239
that I often heard them say is they would ask

1764
01:41:58.260 --> 01:42:00.619
their fellow doctors, are you still in? Cause I need

1765
01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:02.859
to have a doctor I can trust, right?

1766
01:42:03.550 --> 01:42:07.489
Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's right. You're trustworthy is so important.

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01:42:08.229 --> 01:42:12.119
That's what I, I put it the highest level being trustworthy.

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01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:16.819
So I, that's, uh, and I think the, uh, sad

1769
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:21.569
thing is that, uh, the, the medical profession was, uh,

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01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:27.520
in up in arms to support, uh, this, uh, edicts

1771
01:42:27.619 --> 01:42:30.279
from Fauci and the others in that they they wouldn't

1772
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:34.460
uh see that they're they were being misled and and

1773
01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:36.840
when we would try to get the information out they

1774
01:42:36.859 --> 01:42:39.649
didn't uh they fought against it or argued that there

1775
01:42:39.670 --> 01:42:42.609
were other explanations or we were going to be doing

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01:42:42.649 --> 01:42:46.970
more harm than good and if anything they that was

1777
01:42:47.010 --> 01:42:51.069
the wrong thing and uh people suffered which was very bad.

1778
01:42:51.350 --> 01:42:54.359
Well the unfortunate thing is that Dr. Fauci had manipulated

1779
01:42:54.420 --> 01:42:57.739
it in such a way that he got uh you know,

1780
01:42:57.939 --> 01:43:01.319
who otherwise would have been credible doctors. I mean, very

1781
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:06.979
well degreed in stellar positions. And they're going along with this.

1782
01:43:07.100 --> 01:43:10.609
And I got to imagine probably for some, if they

1783
01:43:10.649 --> 01:43:13.210
haven't seared their conscience, it's probably hard for them to

1784
01:43:13.250 --> 01:43:13.869
sleep at night.

1785
01:43:14.729 --> 01:43:19.909
Well, maybe or maybe not. People find ways of putting

1786
01:43:20.090 --> 01:43:24.130
out of their minds things like this and allowing them

1787
01:43:24.189 --> 01:43:28.960
to be thinking about other areas and resting well at night.

1788
01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:33.500
I wouldn't be able to myself. Right. Well, Dr.

1789
01:43:33.539 --> 01:43:36.600
Freed, I cannot thank you enough for your time, for

1790
01:43:36.659 --> 01:43:39.619
all the good that you did, especially in the Imperial Valley. And,

1791
01:43:40.300 --> 01:43:44.239
you know, your voice, though you may not realize it,

1792
01:43:44.489 --> 01:43:46.750
really went across the country and around the world. Yours

1793
01:43:46.829 --> 01:43:49.409
and Dr. Tyson, your book, the information that you gave,

1794
01:43:49.729 --> 01:43:52.430
the hearing in Congress and all that. I'm going to

1795
01:43:52.449 --> 01:43:54.050
turn it over to you and let you wrap it

1796
01:43:54.170 --> 01:43:56.609
up and kind of summarize what what you want our

1797
01:43:56.670 --> 01:43:59.930
viewers to take away and what we can do to

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01:43:59.970 --> 01:44:01.670
make sure this doesn't happen again.

1799
01:44:02.789 --> 01:44:07.140
Well, I think that it's important that the truth of

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01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:12.220
what happened is out and people recognize that, that there

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01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:17.140
were these terrible mistakes that were made and that people

1802
01:44:17.840 --> 01:44:22.520
use good judgment about what's safe and effective and what

1803
01:44:23.119 --> 01:44:26.909
that actually means and look at package inserts in drugs

1804
01:44:27.130 --> 01:44:32.029
and see what actually is the information on safety and

1805
01:44:32.149 --> 01:44:38.060
efficacy and then don't get swayed by without that type

1806
01:44:38.100 --> 01:44:41.760
of knowledge. But I think we hope in our book

1807
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:45.779
that we're working on that probably won't be available for

1808
01:44:46.649 --> 01:44:49.840
four or five months, unfortunately, but when it does come out,

1809
01:44:49.920 --> 01:44:54.699
it will give us so much information from the Global

1810
01:44:54.779 --> 01:44:57.970
COVID Summit group that Brian and I have been part of.

1811
01:44:57.989 --> 01:45:02.010
In many areas, there are really many areas, it's hard

1812
01:45:02.050 --> 01:45:07.380
to be succinct in this way of summarizing without realizing

1813
01:45:07.420 --> 01:45:10.689
that there's so much that has to be a appreciated

1814
01:45:10.789 --> 01:45:16.920
and understood to be able to be trustworthy for doctors

1815
01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:19.960
and also to be doing the right thing and to

1816
01:45:20.060 --> 01:45:24.210
prevent anything like this ever happening again. And I think

1817
01:45:24.250 --> 01:45:29.270
that if We'll definitely send you the first copy of

1818
01:45:29.329 --> 01:45:30.170
the book.

1819
01:45:31.430 --> 01:45:35.180
Because we'll have you back on Lickety Split to get

1820
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:36.460
into that as well, Dr.

1821
01:45:36.500 --> 01:45:36.739
Freed.

1822
01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:38.380
That's very kind of you. I appreciate that.

1823
01:45:38.659 --> 01:45:41.479
Thank you for the time today. And I look forward

1824
01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:46.050
to keeping you informed and following all that you do, Bill.

1825
01:45:46.229 --> 01:45:49.329
And I want to thank Dr. Rich Figueroa, who He's

1826
01:45:49.369 --> 01:45:53.430
our mutual friend and he is a great doctor and

1827
01:45:53.810 --> 01:45:57.689
he shared our views and used our protocol with his

1828
01:45:57.750 --> 01:46:01.069
work in Oxnard and with others that came to him

1829
01:46:01.090 --> 01:46:05.170
at his urgent care clinic in Oxnard, California. But a

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01:46:05.210 --> 01:46:06.729
great doctor and friend of mine.

1831
01:46:07.310 --> 01:46:09.760
Yeah, a friend of both of ours. I mean, he

1832
01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:13.380
and I were childhood friends and he's been my personal

1833
01:46:13.420 --> 01:46:18.949
doctor for what, 60 years now? And he often accuses me, Dr. Farid,

1834
01:46:18.989 --> 01:46:21.010
of practicing medicine without a license.

1835
01:46:22.630 --> 01:46:25.350
The great doctor who's interested in my brother, who is

1836
01:46:25.390 --> 01:46:29.899
an orthopedic surgeon and had to retire from orthopedics because

1837
01:46:29.939 --> 01:46:33.859
of the pandemic. He just had no clinical practice left

1838
01:46:33.939 --> 01:46:37.119
in Santa Barbara. He developed an abscess on the back

1839
01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:40.199
of his neck. All the doctors locally there in Santa

1840
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:44.000
Barbara shunned him or wanted to do major surgery for him.

1841
01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:48.939
I sent him down to Oxnard and Rich cured the abscess,

1842
01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:53.979
drained it properly, and properly treated and saved his life

1843
01:46:54.060 --> 01:46:56.789
in a way. But my brother was an inspiration to

1844
01:46:56.829 --> 01:47:01.090
me in my life and career, older brother, and gave

1845
01:47:01.149 --> 01:47:03.510
me a lot of good information when I went into

1846
01:47:03.550 --> 01:47:10.380
clinical practice on the full time 36 years ago. And

1847
01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:12.859
it led to me being, I don't know if you

1848
01:47:13.140 --> 01:47:16.970
know this, in 2015, the California Medical Association named me

1849
01:47:17.470 --> 01:47:19.010
the Rural Doctor of the Year.

1850
01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:20.340
Oh, wow.

1851
01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:20.640
Great.

1852
01:47:20.699 --> 01:47:25.090
Congratulations. You kept that information away from me, Dr.

1853
01:47:25.130 --> 01:47:25.350
Freed.

1854
01:47:25.390 --> 01:47:27.989
Don't be so humble. That was a great honor, the

1855
01:47:28.189 --> 01:47:32.050
Plessner Award from the California Medical Association. I thought, well,

1856
01:47:32.130 --> 01:47:34.909
now I can retire from medicine.

1857
01:47:34.930 --> 01:47:38.210
Well, not yet. You're not yet 100. That's our goal.

1858
01:47:38.250 --> 01:47:40.350
You said you wanted to practice until you're 100. God

1859
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:43.500
bless you. Well, Dr. Freed, thank you so much. Dr.

1860
01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:46.500
Freed is a medical director, author, and his partner of

1861
01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:48.560
the book, Overcoming the COVID Darkness. We've got a new

1862
01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:51.020
book coming up. in the coming months that we'll keep

1863
01:47:51.060 --> 01:47:56.229
you abreast of. And again, appreciate your time and all

1864
01:47:56.239 --> 01:47:59.390
the information. I will leave our audience with this quote

1865
01:47:59.430 --> 01:48:02.250
from Senator Ron Johnson. You made reference to him. This

1866
01:48:02.289 --> 01:48:04.829
is a good senator out of Wisconsin. He says, and

1867
01:48:04.869 --> 01:48:07.390
I quote, how many more people would be alive today

1868
01:48:07.470 --> 01:48:11.189
had the medical establishment followed the example of Dr. Tyson

1869
01:48:11.289 --> 01:48:15.569
and Dr. Farid instead of heeding arrogant bureaucrats who recommended

1870
01:48:15.649 --> 01:48:20.390
no treatment for COVID-19 until it was often too late.

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01:48:21.310 --> 01:48:21.609
Great.

1872
01:48:21.970 --> 01:48:24.930
Thank you very much, Bill. I appreciate that. Stay well.

1873
01:48:25.430 --> 01:48:25.850
You got it.

1874
01:48:25.869 --> 01:48:26.250
You too.

1875
01:48:26.270 --> 01:48:29.670
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us and

1876
01:48:29.689 --> 01:48:32.090
sharing a part of your day. For more information on

1877
01:48:32.109 --> 01:48:35.970
the show, you can go to BillMartinezLive.com. God bless you.

1878
01:48:36.510 --> 01:48:38.460
And may God bless you and keep you. May make

1879
01:48:38.500 --> 01:48:40.579
his face shine upon you. May he be gracious unto

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01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:42.770
you and give you peace. Take care.

1881
01:48:43.369 --> 01:48:44.489
Take care, Bill. Thank you.

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