Sept. 2, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 09 02 26

The Bill Martinez Show 09 02 26
The Bill Martinez Show 09 02 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now, Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning, America. Glad you could join us. Bill

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Martinez here just about six minutes after the top of

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the hour. And we've got Mark Manilla joining us from

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Financial Issues. Mark, good morning. How are you?

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Welcome.

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Doing great. Thanks for having me, Bill. Good to be

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back with you.

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Great to have you here. You know, there's a lot

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going on to talk about. Interesting, Rasmussen says 50 percent

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of America thinks the Iran situation is worse than Trump says. Well,

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you know, that's I mean, I have to give a

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lot of credit to the mainstream media because everything that

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they talk about when it comes to Iran certainly is

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not to promote Trump. And if anything, it's to promote

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the midterm advantage for the Democrats and even the media, though,

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so conflicted because what Democrat party are you supporting? Are

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you supporting the old guard or are you supporting the DSA, right?

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Right.

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That's incredible. I would have never in my life up

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until now thought this could be this way, where the

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Democratic Party would be split into socialists and over half

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of them are signing up for that. How can that happen?

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It's just ridiculous.

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Well, Mark, I got to tell you, going into the

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2020 elections, I had predicted that there was going to

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be a disassembling of the Democratic Party. But, you know,

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I didn't think they were going to cheat to win.

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I thought they were going to lose so badly in

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2020 that they were going to have to go out

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to the desert and kind of discover themselves. But here

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they are imploding and disassembling the party and allowing the

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party itself, I mean, to be hijacked. By a small minority,

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I mean, you know, I think back in 2016, and

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I was surprised at these numbers, which just goes to

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show you how politics works. Bernie Sanders had about 6,000

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card-carrying DSA members, socialist members, 6,000. Look at all the

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havoc he caused for Hillary Clinton in 2016, right? He almost,

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as an independent, not even a Democrat, almost got the

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Democratic nomination for president. And now here we are, fast-forward,

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to 2026, now there's only 120,000 card-carrying DSA members who

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have fallen out of the closet and said, here we are,

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and they have taken over the Democratic Party. What does

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that tell you?

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Absolutely. Well, it tells me that the party isn't listening

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to their membership. They're not listening to the true Democrats,

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the mom and dads that are working every day, that

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are making a life of and do more than just

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take money out of our paychecks. The people running the

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Democratic Party seem to be ignoring the Democratic Party.

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Right.

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Do you think a little bit cuts both ways that

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maybe the Republicans need to learn something here? I mean,

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these young kids that are gravitating towards socialism or toward

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the message of DSA, I'm saying, don't throw the baby

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out with the bathwater. I don't think they're all wrong.

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They may not be able to put their finger on

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the situation. All they're saying, you know, in their terms,

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it's an affordability issue. Well, okay. When you drill deep

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into the issue of affordability, there's regulations, there's all this

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corruption and fraud that we've been carrying, you know, through

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the system for decades and And now we're $ 40 trillion

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in debt. And guess what? And I hate this. I

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hate to say both parties are guilty of it. But

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you have to say both parties are guilty of it.

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And I think if the Republicans, if they miss this message,

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they do so at their own peril as well.

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Bill, you're absolutely right. Here's the situation. Over $ 1. 9 trillion

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a year in waste and fraud is what's calculated right now.

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That's what we're over on our budget every year. $ 1. 9 trillion.

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I saw a news article today talking about, I guess

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it was about Jackson Hole and the conversation Mr. Warsh

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had there. And they brought up the idea of affordability

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somehow being part of that conversation, which obviously they just

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want to go there to badmouth something. But what they

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didn't say, they said, even if we got rid of

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all waste and fraud, it would only be a fraction

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of our budget.

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Of our budget.

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And it's like, no, it's $ 2 trillion of our budget.

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Let's just get rid of it. Let's get rid of

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all waste and fraud. We don't need to get rid

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of social security or Medicare or Medicaid. We just need

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to get rid of the fraud involved in those and

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everywhere else. And the waste, how many, how many more

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organization NGOs and stuff are receiving billions of dollars a

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year still that, that this administration hasn't found. even though

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they found a lot, which we're really grateful for. But

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the whole idea.

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Of- But it's the tip of the iceberg, isn't it, Mark, though?

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Yeah, it is.

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From the federal government and then bring it back home again,

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the affordability thing. Did you know, I think it's 18

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out of 20 of the last years. No, I'm sorry. Well,

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the first four years that Trump had, The real wage

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growth was positive. Now, Bill, I don't know if everybody

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listening understands. Real wage growth is the difference between inflation

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and what people are taking home, how fast their income

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is growing. If it's positive, then their wages are growing

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faster than inflation. If it's negative, then it's growing slower. Well,

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the first year of this administration, this time it was positive.

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Month after month, we're seeing positive except for two months. Now,

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think about that. So the affordability thing is pretty much

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major propaganda. Now, I'm not telling people that there aren't

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things like beef and stuff that are a problem right now.

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But that problem isn't from inflation. That problem is because

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we have the lowest number of cattle in the herds

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in history since they've been tracking it. And it takes

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two to five years to grow the herds back because

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you have a little baby calf. It takes it two

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years before it matures. So affordability on beef, sure, I

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get it. We all can't eat steak every night right now.

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But when I grew up, I don't ever remember getting steak.

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So I think there's also an expectation creep there.

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Right, exactly.

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It's part of the story the media can use to

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beat Trump up. I get that. But what caused the

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depletion of the cattle?

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Well, first it was Mexico and a worm screw, a

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screw worm, I think it's called, So we stopped importing

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from Mexico. Um, we also, they stopped the agricultural, uh, the,

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the cattle farmers, they had a drought at the same time.

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So they were sacrificing cattle, just killing them off because

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they're going to die anywhere way. So killing them off

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because they can't be fed and selling them off so

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that they all shrunk down. So there was a, there

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was several, I guess, you know, the perfect storm type

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of situation. Uh, Now we're seeing them starting to come back.

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Craig Haugard, he's our ag guy on financial issues. He's

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going to be on tomorrow to talk about this and

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a few other things. He has brought it to light

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that it could take a little while to grow those back.

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When you can't feed the cattle, then you have to

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cut the herd down. And when you have a drought,

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that kind of thing happens. And then when you can't

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import it, because of the screw, which has changed now.

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We are starting to import Mexican beef now from Argentina.

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And then the Democrats threw up, well, that's going to

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have a lot of microplastics in it, and it's going

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to be bad beef and blah, blah, blah. It's like, no,

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it's not. It's beef, you know?

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Right.

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Yeah, exactly. It's not like, we're not like talking turtles

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from the Pacific Ocean.

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Right.

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They're choking on all kinds of plastics. I mean, you

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got to love the arguments. And this is the thing.

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And this is why the voter politic has to exercise

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some critical thinking. I mean, they've really dumbed us down

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in such a way that they want people to believe

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everything they say, which is nonsense. I mean, these are

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the same people that told us that, you know, the

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vaccine would keep us from getting COVID, right? and all

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the other lies that went along with, oh, and Obamacare. Yeah,

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you like your doctor, you get to keep your doctor,

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and it's going to be cheaper. I mean, these are

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the same people that are telling us now. It's like,

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I want to kick them out of the marketplace, Mark.

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Hey, we're talking with Mark Minnelli. He's the host of

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Financial Issues, the nationally syndicated radio and TV program on

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over 500 stations across America. You know, Mark, we're so

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grateful that you've joined us so that we can, you know,

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talk about You know the whole truth and nothing but

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because this is part, I'm sure you deal with it

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on your show and trying to educate your audience to say, okay,

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let's break it down. Let's give you the facts.

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Well, I'll tell you what, you know, the DSA, the

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Democratic Socialists, what they're saying is that Gen Z and

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what's coming after that, I forget what they're calling them,

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but they're saying they're lazy. They're saying that affordability is

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an issue here, Bill. And I know you have an

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intelligent audience, just like Financial Issues does. So they can

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tell the difference. And one of the things that they've

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done is they've come around and the propaganda coming out

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is affordability. They never talk about the true cost of stuff.

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But I think you and I talked before. Lumber's down

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60% from its high during Biden. Used cars are down 20%.

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We actually have food down. Groceries are down. Housing actually

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came down just a couple of percentage. All these things

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are true, but what's being told to them is that

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it's not. What they're being told is they can't have

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a new house. They can't realize the American dream.

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Guess what?

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My wife and I went out driving the other day

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and looking at houses, just using an app to look

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at prices of houses and stuff. Starter houses are about

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$ 180 to two and a quarter, okay? Account for inflation

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and wage growth from back when you and I got

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our starter house. It's cheaper today than it was then, okay?

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Think about that. So it isn't that they can't get

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into a house, it's that they've been programmed to think

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that they can get into a five-bedroom, four-bath, three-car garage

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on three acres in the most expensive part of town

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Just like their mom and dad have right now that

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took them 35 to 40 years to grow into. Exactly.

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Expectation creep is happening. They've been programmed to believe they

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deserve everything their mother and father have right when they

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get out of school. And it's ridiculous. And most people

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don't even realize that they have this expectation. I did

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another thing. I looked up how much the average Gen

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Z person is spending on food delivery. Okay. This is

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meals in a month. Okay. Over almost $ 600 a month.

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That's half a mortgage. That's half my mortgage payment, you know,

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that's half a mortgage payment. So effectively when I grew up,

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we never had anything delivered. If we wanted a pizza,

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my mom and dad thought we could afford it. We'd

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all get in the car and go get a pizza.

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They didn't, you know, want to pay the extra two

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to $ 3 for delivery and stuff, that kind of thing. So,

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It's all a change in programming. And you can get

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your house. You can eat well. You can drive a

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decent car. You just can't drive a brand new one

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every three years. You can't get into your mom and

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dad's house right away. Just do like every generation before

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you does and start with a starter house.

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That's right. Yeah, like I tell the kids, it's all...

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about process. You got to crawl before you walk, before

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you run, right? No matter what it is. And, uh,

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and you go through it. And unfortunately, uh, you know,

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these kids have been propagandized and they've been lied to,

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and guess what? They want some skin. I mean, they're upset.

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And so if it means that we're going to turn

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this country upside down, but look at What are you

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turning it upside down and you're going to find underneath?

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That's the dangerous part because the DSA has nothing to

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offer when it comes to growth and opportunity.

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You know, Bill, let's do this. Let's have a contest

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between you and me right now. I'll take the free

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enterprise side and I'll give you the socialist side. Now,

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this is how the game works. This is how the

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game works. First, you dig me. We'll go through history,

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and you give me every country that adopted socialism that

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came out better, and then I'll give you one that

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embraced free enterprise. Okay, go.

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That's not fair, Mark. There's not one. I've done that.

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I've asked all the econ people that come on the show.

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I say, you tell me one socialist country that is

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better off today than they were before they were socialists.

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I mean, look what's happening in South America, Mark. All

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these countries– and, of course, this is the thing. See,

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our government was participating with these– what was the term?

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The non-geo– oh, gosh, the term has slipped my mind here.

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These government groups, these government agencies, right? And so they

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were funding all– NGOs.

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Yes.

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I'm sorry. Thank you. So here they are. These NGOs

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were buttressing and supporting all these countries in South America.

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And as soon as Marco Rubio and the president said, hey,

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we're cutting NSAID out of the picture, right? Guess what happened?

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They turned from socialism because they ran out of America

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taxpayer money.

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Right.

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They ran out of other people's money. And that's what

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always happens with socialism. Unfortunately, the propaganda is huge. Free this,

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free that. And with younger people, they haven't lived long

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enough to realize that other people's money runs out. As

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soon as it does, that system collapses. With free enterprise now,

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here's what's really cool. You want some good news?

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Yes, give me some good news.

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The entrepreneurship on Gen Z is incredible. What we're seeing

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with the millennials is they're actually over 50% of them

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say they're better off now than they ever have been.

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So they're starting to realize free enterprise works. Gen Z

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has more applications in for starting businesses than anybody else

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in the United States right now. So last month they

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were like, 60% of the applications were from Gen Z.

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That means they're realizing they can start businesses. They can

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do things. They can embrace the free enterprise and not

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have to rely on other people's money or the government

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to tell them how they have to live. This is

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the type of house you have to rent. You can't buy.

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This is how much money you can have in your

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bank account. That's what happens when the government takes over.

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Right.

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Or they come in with an idea like, oh, government

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run grocery stores. And they run local businesses out, right? Yeah.

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And what a mess. I mean, the problems that are

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being created there in New York. I mean, you're talking

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a generational issue here, Mark. I don't know how they

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avoid it.

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No, it's going to be really rough. They got some issues. But,

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you know, you and I saw this. We saw, remember

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when New York was a place you didn't want to

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ever go to because of the crime and everything? And

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then Julianio got in? And he cleaned it up and

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it just turned around to this light on a hillside

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for the world.

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Right.

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And he did it. Broadway was safe again.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I remember being told my first trip to New York,

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never get on the subway. And I went up at

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a great time after it got cleaned up. It was wonderful.

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People were nice. It was just incredible. Yeah. It can

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turn around. So we do have hope there that we

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get in somebody up there good that can turn this

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around next, if he doesn't destroy it too much. But yeah,

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there's a lot going on, Bill. And your broadcasts and

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financial issues and others are waking people up. And that's

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what's needed. Because when they see the reality of it,

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they see that we really do have an incredible country,

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one that God gave us, laid his hand on. One

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that was formed on biblical principles. A lot of people

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argue that, but the 10 commandments are the foundations of

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all our laws. God put his hand on this country.

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He allowed it to be blessed. We show how free

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enterprise can work. Then we spread it around the world

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and we took all these countries out of poverty and

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they became very, we lifted, we almost ended poverty. And

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then the wall came down in Berlin and all the...

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all the Republicans started saying, hey, we won, it's over,

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and got lazy. And then that's when the left started

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regrouping and taking over the schools and the colleges and

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starting all the propaganda and teaching our kids that capitalism

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doesn't work. Well, it's not capitalism, it's free enterprise. Capitalism

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is a word Marxists use to demean free enterprise, but

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free enterprise has won over and over and over again.

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Yeah, it's proven itself, no doubt about it. Well, look

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what's happening in Venezuela. Thank you very much. The Venezuelan

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oil looks like it's going to refill our U.S. reserve

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that Joe Biden had emptied for political purposes, not for

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national security, only for his political skin.

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Yeah, that is pretty incredible. I haven't seen the whole

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deal yet, but the idea that we will get at

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cost the oil to replenish our oil here, you know,

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our reserve is incredible. And that we have a lease now,

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a hundred year lease on some of the biggest fields

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in Argentina for the oil. That's incredible.

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I'll tell you, you got to love this president. I mean,

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thank God. I mean, we've needed a businessman president for

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a long time and God answered our prayer and the

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heck with the media and all these naysayers, Mark Manilla.

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We just, you know, hey, if they don't like it,

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So whatever taxes that they used to pay on tips

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or Social Security, whatever great break that they got from

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the big, beautiful bill, just send the money back to

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the government. It's OK.

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You know, you know how many are doing that, right?

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As many as countries that succeeded with socialism.

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I was going to say he's the host of financial issues. Mark,

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how can they connect with you?

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Well, it's really easy. Go out to financialissues.org Monday through

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Friday at 9 a.m. Eastern time. You can catch us live.

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If you go out there and do it, you can

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get into the chat. We have hundreds of people in

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the chat every day. And you can call in and

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we answer your questions or take your opinion and discuss it.

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It's a wonderful time with brilliant people.

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Well, Mark, thanks for coming on. Take care. Be blessed.

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Bill, thanks for having me. God bless you, sir.

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Tea

518
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Party Patriots, Jenny Beth Martin. Jenny Beth, good morning to you.

519
00:29:21.190 --> 00:29:22.849
Good morning, Bill. So good to be with you.

520
00:29:23.150 --> 00:29:25.230
Hey, always good to have this time together every week.

521
00:29:25.250 --> 00:29:26.809
I always look forward to it because we get to

522
00:29:26.829 --> 00:29:29.730
get caught up on the news. What's going on with

523
00:29:30.269 --> 00:29:31.990
Governor Hochul? She's in a hijab.

524
00:29:33.009 --> 00:29:38.809
Yeah, she, you know, it's really disturbing, especially because we

525
00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:43.069
are so close to the 25th anniversary of 9-11. Exactly.

526
00:29:43.190 --> 00:29:48.079
I think that there's a lot of, I understand you're

527
00:29:48.099 --> 00:29:53.079
being respectful to somebody else's faith. And Ivanka Trump even

528
00:29:53.099 --> 00:29:56.619
did that when she was overseas. But this is in America,

529
00:29:57.259 --> 00:30:01.759
in New York City. right before 9-11. And there is

530
00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:06.940
symbolism involved as well. And I think that it sends

531
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.279
a wrong message. It sends a message that Americans will

532
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comply and bend to Islam.

533
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Even the feminists, who would have thought? That's what we needed.

534
00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:20.009
You know, we just need some Muslims here to take

535
00:30:20.349 --> 00:30:23.849
care of the feminists. I mean, it just washes out

536
00:30:24.190 --> 00:30:28.309
her ideology with a quick sweep, all for what? You know,

537
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Some political navigation?

538
00:30:30.589 --> 00:30:33.809
Because what these men can't handle seeing a woman with

539
00:30:34.210 --> 00:30:38.049
her hair shown. And I have to be careful because

540
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they do understand that there is a Muslim faith and

541
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I can be respectful of that. At the same time,

542
00:30:47.140 --> 00:30:50.039
you're the governor of the state. You are the governor.

543
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The people of the state elected you to lead and

544
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.430
run the state. The men should be able to understand

545
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and respect that.

546
00:30:57.950 --> 00:31:01.369
Well, to me, see, I think respect goes both ways, right?

547
00:31:02.029 --> 00:31:04.970
I mean, look, we can respect that that's your religion.

548
00:31:04.990 --> 00:31:07.099
I'm not going to condemn you for it. That's what

549
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you want to do in your faith. That's okay. But

550
00:31:10.099 --> 00:31:12.519
this is the United States of America. What happened to

551
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.339
our faith? What happened to our ideology? All of a sudden,

552
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:19.519
that's supposed to be subordinated because an immigrant class has

553
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come in and insists that somehow we're supposed to listen to,

554
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you know, respond to the call of prayer and all that.

555
00:31:26.819 --> 00:31:29.700
Well, there was also, what about the women who are

556
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in that faith? And if they want to do what

557
00:31:32.859 --> 00:31:35.180
they want to cover themselves, it's one thing. What if

558
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they don't want to, and they're in America, how do

559
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they get out from underneath that so that they can

560
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actually be free and our free country? It raises questions

561
00:31:45.670 --> 00:31:48.589
that I think sometimes we need to just take a

562
00:31:48.630 --> 00:31:52.099
pause and think about because what, what they're doing to

563
00:31:52.150 --> 00:31:57.869
women is, um, It is very controlling, very, very controlling.

564
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And it's something that I never want to have happen

565
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to me.

566
00:32:01.650 --> 00:32:04.720
Well, it's interesting because the Democrats are always condemning people

567
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of trying to put women, take women or take minorities

568
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to the dark ages, right? Well, this is that, I believe,

569
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you know, with all due respect. I mean, we're having

570
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the conversation here. And again, I'm not condemning them. I

571
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just say I disagree. Because, you know, like you said,

572
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something just was very important. You talked about freedom. This

573
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is why people want to come to America, to be free,

574
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not to find new reasons to handcuff ourselves and to

575
00:32:30.809 --> 00:32:31.630
limit our freedoms.

576
00:32:32.390 --> 00:32:35.710
Yeah, that's exactly right. And the governor could have just

577
00:32:35.750 --> 00:32:38.980
declined to go into the mosque to speak. She didn't

578
00:32:39.019 --> 00:32:41.460
have to be there. She could have spoken outside of

579
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the mosque. There were other things she could have done

580
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in order to speak to them that didn't compromise her

581
00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:50.750
own values and didn't compromise their values. There's a bridge

582
00:32:50.809 --> 00:32:54.230
somewhere in between that and she crossed the bridge and

583
00:32:54.430 --> 00:32:55.569
I think she went too far.

584
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.460
Well, I think it's interesting right now. And on one hand,

585
00:32:59.539 --> 00:33:02.519
I'm thankful for the DSA because the DSA is putting

586
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a line in the sand and you have to decide

587
00:33:04.940 --> 00:33:07.000
what side of the line you want to be on.

588
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Do you want to be on the side of freedom

589
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or do you want to be on the side of socialism?

590
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.609
That's the option. And so. People need to understand and

591
00:33:15.670 --> 00:33:19.730
discern that's what's going on here, because that war is

592
00:33:19.769 --> 00:33:21.609
going on in the Democratic Party. I mean, look what

593
00:33:21.630 --> 00:33:24.910
happened after the primaries. The Democrats, so much for their

594
00:33:24.950 --> 00:33:27.160
broad tent. I mean, they're trying to bring those tent

595
00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:30.180
pegs in and even define what's supposed to be under

596
00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:31.059
that tent right now.

597
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.119
Well, you know, you can have a broad tent and

598
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:38.430
accept a lot of people in your political party, the

599
00:33:38.490 --> 00:33:41.769
political party that is going to determine if your people

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are elected, how the United States government operates, and the

601
00:33:45.349 --> 00:33:48.269
people have to take an oath to the Constitution to

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be elected. You don't need to have people in the

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party who want to dismantle the Constitution and dismantle the

604
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United States government. It's pretty simple to me. This should

605
00:33:59.210 --> 00:34:02.049
be something that all Americans agree on. It shouldn't be

606
00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:05.569
a left, right, Republican, Democratic thing. If you want to

607
00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:09.690
abolish the Senate, change the entire presidency so it is

608
00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:13.190
subservient to one half of one third of our government,

609
00:34:13.590 --> 00:34:17.530
get rid of or completely pack the Supreme Court, abolish police,

610
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.400
abolish prisons. You don't want to have a functioning America

611
00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:26.139
any longer. You can't honestly take an oath saying you

612
00:34:26.179 --> 00:34:29.360
will uphold and defend the Constitution. And there shouldn't be

613
00:34:29.420 --> 00:34:31.699
room in either party for that. If that were going

614
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:33.820
on on our side of the aisle, we would say, no,

615
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:36.519
I don't want anarchists on our side of the aisle.

616
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.260
I don't want communists on the other side of the aisle.

617
00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:42.079
Either way is wrong and both lead to tyranny.

618
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Right.

619
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Well, what happens with socialists and deception is they get

620
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.570
a little bit of that, which is valid. And they

621
00:34:48.610 --> 00:34:52.099
create wedges. And so what I have been warning the

622
00:34:52.139 --> 00:34:55.380
Republican Party about is that don't throw out the baby

623
00:34:55.420 --> 00:34:58.079
with the bathwater. Listen to the complaints that these young

624
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.420
people have, because I don't think they're all wrong. I mean,

625
00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:05.010
they just don't know how to, I guess, explain it

626
00:35:05.250 --> 00:35:09.420
in political terms. They just know that it's unfair. There's corruption,

627
00:35:10.099 --> 00:35:13.619
fraud that's been happening. People are being cheated out of things,

628
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.889
the affordability issue, all those things. But look at what

629
00:35:16.929 --> 00:35:19.809
the Republicans have. They've done something about it just in

630
00:35:19.849 --> 00:35:23.190
the big, beautiful bill alone, Jenny Beth. But, you know,

631
00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:26.280
we have to listen to what these young kids are saying.

632
00:35:26.300 --> 00:35:29.460
We've got to understand their pain, so to speak, because

633
00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:31.820
the only people that are doing that is the DSA,

634
00:35:31.860 --> 00:35:34.079
and that's why they're following the DSA right now.

635
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.280
Yeah, you're exactly right, Bill. We have to feel their

636
00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:42.780
pain the way that Bill Clinton did. I went through bankruptcy.

637
00:35:42.860 --> 00:35:45.440
I had to clean my neighbor's homes. I know what

638
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.420
it's like to have to completely start over with nothing

639
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:53.150
in this country or basically nothing except my loved ones

640
00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:56.630
and my faith in God and a few clothing articles.

641
00:35:57.110 --> 00:35:57.989
I get it.

642
00:35:58.409 --> 00:36:02.449
I know how hard it is to build up in

643
00:36:02.489 --> 00:36:05.650
this country. And I know it is possible to do that.

644
00:36:06.369 --> 00:36:09.710
I think that part of what we're seeing here is

645
00:36:09.789 --> 00:36:13.610
that they weren't taught the basics when they were in school.

646
00:36:13.909 --> 00:36:16.239
And because they weren't taught the basics when they were

647
00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:19.260
in school, the real world is now hitting them and

648
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.920
they're not prepared for it. And now we've got to

649
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.000
figure out how we're going to understand and feel their

650
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:30.119
pain and empathize and sympathize with them while also educating

651
00:36:30.179 --> 00:36:32.750
them and teaching them of the basics that they should

652
00:36:32.769 --> 00:36:35.809
have learned back in fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth grade.

653
00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:39.599
And it's a tough situation because we're not just dealing

654
00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:42.480
with high school graduates at this point. We're dealing with

655
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.969
college graduates who went to college, were honestly cheated in

656
00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:51.090
their college education because they got horrible, worthless degrees, yet

657
00:36:51.130 --> 00:36:56.789
they ran up debt sometimes to the tune of $ 40, 000, $ 50, 000, $ 60, 000, $ 100, 000

658
00:36:56.230 --> 00:37:01.099
or more. So they're coming out of college completely underwater

659
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.940
financially and feel like the world is stacked against them.

660
00:37:04.619 --> 00:37:07.960
Right. Yeah, you can't blame them for that. But again,

661
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:11.590
what they need to understand- Solution is not communism. Oh, no, exactly. Well,

662
00:37:11.610 --> 00:37:14.610
they need to understand what capitalism has done for the West.

663
00:37:14.690 --> 00:37:18.809
I mean, we've got decades, well over 100 years of

664
00:37:19.070 --> 00:37:23.110
experience where capitalism is a building block. It has created

665
00:37:23.210 --> 00:37:27.250
this incredible country of ours and other nations around look

666
00:37:27.269 --> 00:37:30.449
what's happening in south america for example venezuela is born

667
00:37:30.489 --> 00:37:35.269
again argentina all ever since uh president trump said hey

668
00:37:35.349 --> 00:37:38.500
no more of uh ngo money going to the south

669
00:37:38.820 --> 00:37:41.300
guess what the socialists said oh we're out of money

670
00:37:41.579 --> 00:37:44.079
we better you know we better turn to capitalism and

671
00:37:44.099 --> 00:37:47.760
look what's going on there's this resurgence of capitalism out

672
00:37:47.780 --> 00:37:50.719
of these people because it's commonsensical right Yes.

673
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:56.489
It is commonsensical. And also, socialism fails everywhere it is tried.

674
00:37:56.690 --> 00:38:02.369
Communism fails everywhere it is tried. And someone may say, well,

675
00:38:02.449 --> 00:38:05.670
look at China, but The people in China don't have

676
00:38:05.710 --> 00:38:07.610
the kind of freedom and liberty that we have. The

677
00:38:07.670 --> 00:38:13.539
government still owns more than we can possibly imagine. And

678
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.159
people don't have the same opportunities to rise up the

679
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:23.989
way they do in a capitalist society. We have to

680
00:38:24.349 --> 00:38:26.989
show the good in capitalism. We have to show the

681
00:38:27.190 --> 00:38:31.940
failures and the harms of socialism and communism. Thankfully, the

682
00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:36.099
people in Miami who have escaped communism from Cuba seem

683
00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:38.300
to be able to do this better than just about

684
00:38:38.500 --> 00:38:43.400
anyone I know in the country. Also, I've met people

685
00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:49.309
who escaped from or survived the Soviet times. But to

686
00:38:49.349 --> 00:38:52.250
a young person, that just seems ancient. It just seems

687
00:38:52.349 --> 00:38:55.829
like ancient times. We're dealing with young people who weren't

688
00:38:55.889 --> 00:38:58.829
even alive 25 years ago when 9-11 happened.

689
00:38:58.849 --> 00:38:59.269
Exactly.

690
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Exactly.

691
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We got to leave it there, Jenny Beth. How can

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people be in touch?

693
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Well, you can go to teapartypatriots.org or follow me on

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Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here along with Numbers USA,

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the one and only Andre Barnes. Andre, how are we doing?

768
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I'm doing well.

769
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Well, Andre, by the way, is Numbers USA HBCU Engagement Director.

770
00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:28.260
So he's always looking to pick a fight.

771
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:29.030
Not really.

772
00:43:30.670 --> 00:43:33.170
It's about engagement. It's about, you know, we got to

773
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have the conversation to work through these things, right? And

774
00:43:35.449 --> 00:43:37.130
we have to, you know, as the Bible says, we

775
00:43:37.170 --> 00:43:41.449
got to sit down and reason together. And the challenge

776
00:43:41.469 --> 00:43:43.309
we've had in our country is, is we've had too

777
00:43:43.329 --> 00:43:48.409
many unreasonable people. That's why we're not really connecting and

778
00:43:48.489 --> 00:43:52.889
being able to communicate and understand each other's pain and perspective,

779
00:43:53.210 --> 00:43:57.610
which when we do that, everybody is much more fulfilled

780
00:43:57.889 --> 00:43:59.690
and productive, right?

781
00:44:00.170 --> 00:44:03.429
That is correct. And we need to get to a

782
00:44:03.550 --> 00:44:08.239
point where we're looking at history as a guide, not

783
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for a reason to make excuses, but as a guide,

784
00:44:11.929 --> 00:44:16.309
so that people can understand where people are coming from,

785
00:44:16.789 --> 00:44:19.949
look at that history so we don't repeat mistakes that

786
00:44:19.989 --> 00:44:21.150
we've made in the past.

787
00:44:21.809 --> 00:44:24.789
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's often said that the

788
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reason history repeats is because we forget or we don't

789
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pay attention to it. But, you know, the loss also,

790
00:44:31.019 --> 00:44:34.019
as you say, is the lessons that can be learned

791
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.260
and that we need to hold on to. And this

792
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.519
is really, this is what smart people do. Dumb people just...

793
00:44:41.349 --> 00:44:44.570
You know, they keep going, oh, that gravity thing, you know,

794
00:44:44.610 --> 00:44:45.949
I really don't believe in it. Let me get on

795
00:44:45.969 --> 00:44:49.119
the roof and jump off again. And oh, it's still there.

796
00:44:49.539 --> 00:44:50.400
You know, ouch.

797
00:44:50.980 --> 00:44:54.500
You know, and we do this repeatedly out of our,

798
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.800
you know, I guess you want to say, you know,

799
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curious humanity, I guess. Let's put it that way.

800
00:45:03.019 --> 00:45:03.559
Exactly.

801
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:04.460
Exactly.

802
00:45:04.739 --> 00:45:09.469
And We cannot afford to make those kind of mistakes

803
00:45:09.730 --> 00:45:14.110
with our immigration policy because we've seen time and time again,

804
00:45:14.550 --> 00:45:19.329
when we have a tight labor market, Americans thrive. When

805
00:45:19.349 --> 00:45:24.130
we have a loose labor market, Americans suffer, especially black Americans.

806
00:45:24.710 --> 00:45:24.909
Right.

807
00:45:25.250 --> 00:45:28.730
Well, we're talking about an issue that you had put

808
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out that has to do with dignity. It's honoring the

809
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lives and dignity of people. And when things are under

810
00:45:39.550 --> 00:45:45.469
law and order, everybody wins and the dignity quotient is there.

811
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It's very vibrant. When it's loose, as you suggest, we

812
00:45:49.530 --> 00:45:54.269
lose a sense of ourselves and dignity and we're less

813
00:45:54.329 --> 00:45:55.590
productive all the way around.

814
00:45:56.369 --> 00:46:01.269
Absolutely. And let's take a trip through history. So we

815
00:46:01.309 --> 00:46:05.429
have the Great Migration. Black Americans are moving out of

816
00:46:05.500 --> 00:46:09.050
the South, they're moving North, and they're moving West. In 1940,

817
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.400
the Black population in South L.A. was around 60%. By 1970,

818
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.440
their population had grown to around 760,000. So there's a

819
00:46:14.460 --> 00:46:17.099
huge growth. Why is all this growth happening? Why are

820
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:33.039
all these people coming into South L.A.? Because there are jobs.

821
00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:36.260
People are able to raise families. People are able to

822
00:46:36.699 --> 00:46:41.349
create stable living conditions for themselves and build legacy and

823
00:46:41.730 --> 00:46:47.010
transfer wealth to the next generation. But what happens? Policy changes.

824
00:46:48.010 --> 00:46:52.070
We decide to open up our immigration policy to the

825
00:46:52.130 --> 00:46:57.710
rest of the world. We ended the 1924 Immigration Act

826
00:46:57.769 --> 00:47:02.719
and replaced it with the 1965 Hart-Celler Act. And we

827
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.619
decided that we were going to right a wrong. Before

828
00:47:07.820 --> 00:47:11.750
in the previous act, the 1924 Immigration Act, we had

829
00:47:11.869 --> 00:47:18.989
policies that limited people by race, by countries of origins

830
00:47:19.090 --> 00:47:22.269
that were not fair to the rest of the world.

831
00:47:22.289 --> 00:47:27.480
So they wanted to deal with some of those things

832
00:47:27.500 --> 00:47:30.920
that were deemed to be racist or unfair. But they

833
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.340
promised that they wouldn't increase the number. They ended up

834
00:47:34.780 --> 00:47:38.699
increasing the number. And in 1965, you saw all these

835
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:43.199
people from around the world coming into the United States.

836
00:47:43.980 --> 00:47:51.909
And by 1992, you would have one of the bloodiest

837
00:47:52.010 --> 00:47:58.869
riots in history, the L.A. race riots. And during that time,

838
00:47:58.909 --> 00:48:03.210
you had people, 50 people that died, a thousand people

839
00:48:03.690 --> 00:48:07.210
who were injured, and they had to bring in the

840
00:48:07.269 --> 00:48:13.210
National Guard. This thing lasted for five days. Why were

841
00:48:13.230 --> 00:48:19.550
there so many tensions that caused this explosion? Well, the

842
00:48:20.829 --> 00:48:24.730
match that was struck from the timber box was from

843
00:48:24.750 --> 00:48:29.909
tension from all of these people that were moving in

844
00:48:30.650 --> 00:48:35.010
to South LA. Because the policies opened up our immigration policy,

845
00:48:35.389 --> 00:48:44.190
you had from 1965 to around 1992, 750,000 immigrants move

846
00:48:44.210 --> 00:48:48.530
into that region. And what you were finding is that

847
00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:53.500
many of the people that were living in LA, they

848
00:48:53.619 --> 00:48:58.210
were not speaking English at home. You are finding that

849
00:48:58.210 --> 00:49:01.659
40 percent of the population was immigrant and it was

850
00:49:02.030 --> 00:49:06.400
taking a toll on the black population because they stopped

851
00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:08.019
getting hired.

852
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:08.860
Right.

853
00:49:09.219 --> 00:49:13.829
And there was an EOC report that that they published

854
00:49:13.889 --> 00:49:19.949
in 1993 that showed that Asian-Americans gained around 59 percent.

855
00:49:20.909 --> 00:49:28.260
jobs during the recession. Hispanic Americans or Hispanics, they gained

856
00:49:28.380 --> 00:49:35.079
around 60% of jobs, net jobs during the recession. Black

857
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:41.840
Americans lost 59,000 jobs during that of the recession. So

858
00:49:41.860 --> 00:49:45.639
what does that tell you? That tells you that companies

859
00:49:45.659 --> 00:49:49.719
that were trying to make their affirmative action goals were

860
00:49:49.860 --> 00:49:54.340
hiring Asians and Hispanics to fill those goals and they

861
00:49:54.380 --> 00:49:57.420
were laying off Black Americans. And what does this do?

862
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:02.679
They get cheap labor. They get to maximize their profits

863
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.960
by paying these people less at the expense of Black Americans.

864
00:50:06.179 --> 00:50:06.360
Right.

865
00:50:06.730 --> 00:50:08.710
You know, the other thing that happened during that period

866
00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:12.699
of time, Andre, I was there in Southern California, is

867
00:50:12.889 --> 00:50:18.239
there was displacement of people out of Los Angeles. And

868
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:19.340
you know where they sent them?

869
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:20.500
Where did they send them?

870
00:50:20.940 --> 00:50:27.340
Pomona Valley. Because Pomona Valley had buildings, they had empty buildings,

871
00:50:27.739 --> 00:50:30.960
homes there in Pomona. And here they thought they were

872
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.849
doing something, you know, to help the black community. And

873
00:50:34.889 --> 00:50:38.489
what they did is they displaced them. And it's a

874
00:50:38.849 --> 00:50:42.619
real study in human sociology because what happens when you

875
00:50:42.659 --> 00:50:45.460
get displaced like this You know, you still have a

876
00:50:45.500 --> 00:50:48.340
job in LA. Now you're 60 miles away. Now you

877
00:50:48.469 --> 00:50:51.610
got driving, you got commute time, right? Now you've got

878
00:50:52.030 --> 00:50:55.230
an increase in delinquency because mom and dad aren't near

879
00:50:55.250 --> 00:50:57.570
a home to keep an eye on the kids. So

880
00:50:58.030 --> 00:51:00.030
it was a problem all the way around. And the

881
00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:02.369
other thing too, that they don't want to talk about

882
00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:05.409
was the mayor of Pomona, I believe was the mayor.

883
00:51:06.170 --> 00:51:08.550
And you can double check me on this. He owned

884
00:51:08.570 --> 00:51:12.610
that property. So it saved his bacon. by putting all

885
00:51:12.670 --> 00:51:19.570
these black people into a project, a housing project that

886
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.460
was losing money. And so it helped him, but it

887
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:27.780
devastated the black community. And so there was lots of

888
00:51:27.900 --> 00:51:30.909
moving parts that contributed to the L.A.

889
00:51:31.010 --> 00:51:31.409
Riots.

890
00:51:31.969 --> 00:51:33.989
And then, you know, the other thing we're not talking

891
00:51:34.030 --> 00:51:37.550
about was the increase of abortions. I mean, clearly you

892
00:51:37.590 --> 00:51:42.369
had black babies being murdered at an inordinate rate 40%

893
00:51:42.369 --> 00:51:47.900
of blacks contributed to the abortion casualty numbers. That's what's

894
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.300
going on. So you had a lot of things that

895
00:51:51.340 --> 00:51:55.940
people didn't understand necessarily. They were angry, rightfully, but they

896
00:51:56.019 --> 00:51:57.820
may not have been able to put the finger on

897
00:51:57.860 --> 00:52:00.179
it because some of these things, like you just shared,

898
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.730
happened in the back room. All they know is the

899
00:52:04.789 --> 00:52:08.539
fruit of the tree started to stink. And they were

900
00:52:08.579 --> 00:52:11.519
living in the tree that once was, you know, was

901
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.500
pretty vibrant and they could live off it and do well.

902
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:18.679
And all of a sudden, because of government regulations and unfortunately,

903
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.250
I mean, which still blows me away to this day, Andre, because,

904
00:52:21.829 --> 00:52:24.210
you know, this was done by and large by Democrats.

905
00:52:24.809 --> 00:52:27.050
And I hate to make it partisan, but you've got

906
00:52:27.070 --> 00:52:30.260
to call it for what it is, because the Democrats

907
00:52:30.380 --> 00:52:33.900
wanted the black vote and they ended up indenturing Democrats.

908
00:52:34.380 --> 00:52:37.980
Black America, and they brought them down. And then also

909
00:52:38.099 --> 00:52:42.030
look at what happened. Divorce rates starts to skyrocket, you know,

910
00:52:42.369 --> 00:52:49.469
and everything, homeownership, all these positive matrix that were demonstrated

911
00:52:49.510 --> 00:52:52.119
there in the black community was all compromised. And this

912
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.460
was all done by regulation. And the thing is that

913
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:57.980
drives me nuts, Andre, is they saw this stuff happening.

914
00:52:58.219 --> 00:53:00.039
And do you think they would have said, hey, stop,

915
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:02.380
let's reconfigure?

916
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:02.460
No.

917
00:53:02.820 --> 00:53:05.599
And here we are decades later, and we're still dealing

918
00:53:05.619 --> 00:53:08.840
with this. And black America is going, what the heck happened?

919
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:11.909
And so now, slowly but surely, they're moving away from

920
00:53:11.929 --> 00:53:14.869
the Democrats and going to the Republicans. And I'm saying, hey,

921
00:53:14.909 --> 00:53:18.530
the Republican Party needs to get their act together. Because yes,

922
00:53:18.550 --> 00:53:21.210
they have an opportunity to serve the people. I think

923
00:53:21.250 --> 00:53:24.590
the heart of, and I will say one party over

924
00:53:24.610 --> 00:53:27.400
the other, is more to help the people as opposed

925
00:53:27.460 --> 00:53:31.199
to the other party that wants to help themselves. But

926
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:34.320
they need to stay true to the values and the

927
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.690
moral guidelines that make sure that they're doing right by

928
00:53:38.929 --> 00:53:42.289
all Americans, black, white, yellow, pink, or whatever color you

929
00:53:42.309 --> 00:53:42.789
want to pick.

930
00:53:43.730 --> 00:53:49.719
Absolutely. And here's another thing. that you kind of alluded to, Congress.

931
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:51.880
You're right.

932
00:53:52.420 --> 00:53:55.519
We shouldn't make this a partisan issue because there have

933
00:53:55.539 --> 00:53:58.809
been failures on both sides. Now, the Republicans right now

934
00:53:59.349 --> 00:54:03.449
have decided to take more of a stronger role with immigration,

935
00:54:03.469 --> 00:54:06.650
but we've seen through history how that has switched. In 1972,

936
00:54:06.650 --> 00:54:18.829
the Hesburgh Commission, they established that during a recession that

937
00:54:19.389 --> 00:54:24.670
immigration should be flexible and they should be able to

938
00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:29.719
hold off on bringing in more people when we are

939
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:34.000
having a recession. But when they presented that argument to Congress,

940
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.639
they shot it down. They shot it down. And that's

941
00:54:38.099 --> 00:54:41.969
both sides of the aisle. So we really have to

942
00:54:42.050 --> 00:54:47.630
hold our elected officials accountable When we're talking about protecting

943
00:54:47.730 --> 00:54:48.670
American jobs.

944
00:54:49.170 --> 00:54:49.329
Yeah.

945
00:54:49.590 --> 00:54:51.989
You know, you touched on something that's a whole nother discussion.

946
00:54:52.150 --> 00:54:54.210
And unfortunately, we're out of time. So the next time

947
00:54:54.230 --> 00:54:57.389
we get together, because we need to talk about how,

948
00:54:57.969 --> 00:55:00.519
you know, Congress and this is, you know, typical of

949
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.440
all human beings. You're used to doing something and you go, OK,

950
00:55:04.460 --> 00:55:07.039
do I take on, do I reinvent something right now?

951
00:55:07.500 --> 00:55:10.360
Even though the times and the seasons and the indications

952
00:55:10.420 --> 00:55:12.280
are you should do something about it. You go, well,

953
00:55:12.300 --> 00:55:14.360
that's a lot of work. You know, I'll just put

954
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.969
it off, right? So that's the human inclination. But we

955
00:55:18.090 --> 00:55:21.329
do that at the injury of those that we serve.

956
00:55:21.449 --> 00:55:23.809
We got to leave it there for now. Andre Barnes,

957
00:55:23.849 --> 00:55:26.670
as always, thank you so much for coming on. Andre

958
00:55:26.690 --> 00:55:30.170
is the HBCU Engagement Director with Numbers USA. How can

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friend Jeff Carrera, the native New Orleans and political commentator

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and host of the award winning program Ringside Politics.

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Hey, Mr.

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Jeff, how are we doing?

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Hey, great to be with you, Bill.

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Hey, help me understand this, okay? You know, the media

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and the left, especially the DSA, is telling us repeatedly

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that Trump is bad. Okay, what am I missing here?

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Since taking office, as promised, Trump secured our border. He's

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been working against all resistance to deport millions of illegals,

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some who have killed our citizens, take an unfair advantage

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of our hospitality by stealing, even committing billions of dollars

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in fraud against our social services. Affordability, as you recall,

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was an issue on day one of this administration because

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of what the Biden administration and democratic policies and regulations

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did to our economy, how it weakened our energy sector,

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monetary policy, raising inflation almost 9%, something that can't be

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resolved overnight. So help me understand. And we're not even

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talking about big, beautiful bill here that the president was

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able to enact in what, in the first six months

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of this administration, all the great things out of it.

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But we're supposed to discern out of the work that

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Donald Trump has been doing on behalf of America that

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he's the bad guy. What am I missing, Jeff?

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No, you've outlined it pretty well.

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Don't forget, the media amplifies everything that the DSA and

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the Democrats say about Trump. So they make it even

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00:58:28.730 --> 00:58:32.269
more of an issue because they hate Trump. And of course,

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they've been an opponent since day one. But yeah, I mean,

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securing the border, an incredible accomplishment. We need to deport millions,

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three million, I think, have already left, either voluntarily or

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been deported. We've got tens of millions to go, but

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I mean, we're working on it. They're trying to stop

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every ICE operation. They've got multiple lawsuits that are filed

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about everything the president's trying to do, every executive order.

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Every renovation to D.C., every project, whether it's a ballroom

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or an arch or a reflecting pool, is facing multiple lawsuits.

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So they've got an onslaught. against him politically, media-wise, legally.

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And of course, the one thing that unites the Democrats,

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the DSA, the moderates, is hatred of Trump. And my

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prediction is, and I don't know if you agree or not,

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but if the Democrats take control, they'll impeach him again.

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Oh, there's no doubt. They've already got articles in their

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desk drawer. I mean, they've already said as much. So, yeah,

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I mean, it's absolutely ludicrous.

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Even though they know they can't convict him, which takes

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a two-thirds vote of the Senate, they know they can't

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remove him.

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They just want to go through.

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The whole process to satisfy their rabid base, to make

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life more difficult for President Trump, to muck up the works,

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to make sure that there's no real agenda passed in

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the second half of the administration.

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This was the.

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Playbook of Trump 1. investigations, harassment, hearings, impeachment. So that's

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why it's critical for Republicans to hang on to the

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Congress to prevent that from happening.

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Well, you know, you just brought something up again in

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terms of his first administration. It is a wonder that

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Donald Trump was able to accomplish what he did in

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his first administration, starting with all the cabal led by

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the former president himself, Barack Obama, who has done it

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01:00:23.179 --> 01:00:25.840
with impunity. Nothing will happen with him. I mean, he

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orchestrated this Russian collusion deal. Clearly, he did. I mean,

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he is guilty of that as much as Fauci is

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01:00:35.429 --> 01:00:37.239
guilty of the COVID pandemic.

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And I guess a lot of us are asking, you know,

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where's the justice? Navarro went to jail. Manafort went to jail.

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Bannon went to jail. When is Brennan going to go

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to jail? Clapper going to go to jail. Obama, Fauci.

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I mean, the list is long. Or Lisa Page, Peter Strzok,

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I mean, James Comey. I mean, it's so frustrating that

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there is a double standard of justice. And the left

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tries to say, oh, well, Donald Trump is weaponizing the DOJ.

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Really?

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I think the DOJ was weaponized against Donald Trump and

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his supporters. They're the ones that have been raided, indicted, mugshot.

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Right.

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Put through hell. I mean, you know, we still have

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this E. Jean Carroll case.

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That is out there.

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Oh, what a mess. What a mess, yeah.

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You know, on and on and on.

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Did Barack Obama have his home raided by FBI agents?

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I mean, then we can talk about equality here, but no.

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Joe Biden had classified documents, Bill. And what did they

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do to Joe Biden? Absolutely nothing.

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They gave him a pass because he's old.

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Yeah, right, exactly.

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He had classified documents.

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What scared me about that is that Here you got

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the special prosecutor saying, hey, this guy's guilty, but we

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can't do anything about it because he's old and he's feeble.

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01:01:55.579 --> 01:01:57.829
Excuse me, this guy's the president of the United States.

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He has the nuclear codes. Why didn't they put a

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01:02:00.550 --> 01:02:02.070
bag over his head and drag him out of the

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room at that point?

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Right.

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Nancy Pelosi, if you remember, toward the end of the

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first term of Donald Trump, wanted to enact and set

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up and tee up the issue of being able to

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oust an incompetent president. She was targeting Trump with this idea. But,

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you know, little did she know, like anything, you got

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01:02:25.260 --> 01:02:26.860
to be careful what you wish for and what you

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put into action, because actually that's something that they should

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have exercised under Biden. And you can't tell me that

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they didn't know. You can't tell me Nancy Pelosi, as

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a leader of the House of Representatives, was not aware

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of Biden's frailties.

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01:02:43.699 --> 01:02:46.139
They claim that they just found out during the debate

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01:02:46.340 --> 01:02:49.039
with President Trump, which is a total joke.

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01:02:49.619 --> 01:02:51.860
We knew it. We could see it from day one.

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01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:57.159
And what the Her tapes expose is that he was

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mentally incompetent back in 2016 and 2017 because when talking

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to his ghostwriter, He couldn't even recall certain dates. He

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01:03:04.940 --> 01:03:09.869
was fumbling and mumbling, stumbling around then. So that was 2016, 2017.

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He just got worse. That's why he didn't run a campaign.

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01:03:13.230 --> 01:03:15.829
He really was in his basement the whole time. That's

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01:03:15.869 --> 01:03:18.510
why when he does press conferences, he needs a script.

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01:03:18.670 --> 01:03:22.670
He needs the reporter's questions written out.

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01:03:22.690 --> 01:03:24.250
And the reporter's name.

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01:03:24.269 --> 01:03:25.670
And the reporter's names.

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01:03:26.389 --> 01:03:28.989
And he only did like a handful of press conferences

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in four years. And he only went on friendly media outlets. So, yeah,

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01:03:33.900 --> 01:03:36.349
they all knew, Bill. It's a lie that they were

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shocked by his debate performance. I mean, he had been

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performing like that his entire presidency.

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01:03:41.210 --> 01:03:45.050
Well, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, Schumer, they were all

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01:03:45.150 --> 01:03:50.429
getting exactly what they wanted. They had their hands in

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01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:54.449
control of the presidency. Because of a feeble Joe Biden,

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01:03:54.469 --> 01:03:57.309
this is, eventually this will come out, but it's clear.

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01:03:57.369 --> 01:03:59.730
I mean, you and I have talked about this. I mean,

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you don't have to be a genius to figure this out.

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01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:04.400
Just look at the fruit of the tree and what

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01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:07.360
was going on. The fact that Biden didn't even, he

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01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.179
wasn't even aware of a lot of this stuff that

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was happening. He's the president of the United States, for

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01:04:12.059 --> 01:04:12.969
goodness sakes, right?

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Right.

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I mean, but who was the president? That's a question.

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I mean, you know, he had the auto pen pardons.

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01:04:20.570 --> 01:04:23.409
You had a very engaged and involved wife. Was she

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01:04:23.449 --> 01:04:25.980
calling the shots? Was Hunter calling the shots? Was it,

1127
01:04:26.929 --> 01:04:29.730
you know, the chief of staff, Ron Klain? I mean,

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01:04:29.809 --> 01:04:33.090
who was it? Who was really the presidency? Was it

1129
01:04:33.139 --> 01:04:34.559
a cabal of some of these people?

1130
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:36.400
Was it Barack Obama.

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Directly directing it? Obama was the last man standing. He was,

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01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:43.460
you know, he was on top of the mountain. There's

1133
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.800
no doubt. I mean, look, it was unprecedented that you

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01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.909
have a president when he leaves office, he doesn't stay

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01:04:49.949 --> 01:04:54.010
in DC. Obama was there in the zip code there.

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You're right?

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Right, right.

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01:04:56.110 --> 01:04:58.070
Yeah, he didn't want to leave because he still wanted

1139
01:04:58.090 --> 01:05:01.110
to influence everything that went on since then.

1140
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And you know what? His legacy is still there.

1141
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We had a chance in the first term to get

1142
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rid of Obamacare and we didn't do it.

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And we still haven't done it.

1144
01:05:10.699 --> 01:05:13.639
And that goes back to the Republicans in Congress that

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don't get the job done. When we give them power,

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we give them majority. We give him a chance. And

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the president can do what he can do. He can

1148
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only do so much. He can do executive orders. He

1149
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has his pen and his phone. He can do what

1150
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he can. But you've got to have cooperation from Congress.

1151
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:33.730
And we've talked about it. John Thune, all these rhinos,

1152
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they're stopping his agenda.

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Well, we're talking with Jeff Cruer. Jeff's the native New

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Orleans political commentator, author, and host of the award-winning program

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Ringside Politics. You know, speaking of, you know, the situation with,

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01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:26.359
you know, with Joe Biden and what he left us,

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01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:29.300
the mess that he left us with, and Donald Trump,

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01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:32.520
you know, to his credit, has picked it up and

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01:10:32.579 --> 01:10:35.680
come and brought solutions. And a lot of these solutions,

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01:10:35.699 --> 01:10:38.630
you know, the Democrats want to talk about you know,

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01:10:39.170 --> 01:10:43.229
kitchen table issues. Well, Donald Trump has addressed those kitchen

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01:10:43.250 --> 01:10:47.529
table issues. But the deafening sound of the mainstream media,

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01:10:47.689 --> 01:10:50.680
as you say, part of the cabal, because this has been,

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01:10:50.699 --> 01:10:53.119
you know, the fix has been in for a long

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01:10:53.180 --> 01:10:58.300
time against conservatives, against capitalism. And now here you've got

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01:10:58.340 --> 01:11:00.949
the Democrats who have really gone off the edge. I mean,

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01:11:01.310 --> 01:11:04.050
the lunatic fringe of the left has taken over the

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Democratic Party.

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01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:06.609
No doubt about it.

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01:11:06.699 --> 01:11:10.100
And the passion is among the socialists. The young people

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01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:14.359
in the Democrat Party have turned on capitalism. They're all

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01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:18.380
embracing socialism. The majority of Democrats have a more favorable

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01:11:18.420 --> 01:11:22.239
view of socialism than capitalism. So this has engulfed the

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01:11:22.380 --> 01:11:25.859
Democrat Party. Whether it's going to lead to their party

1245
01:11:25.930 --> 01:11:29.829
nominating a socialist in 2028, we'll see. Will it be AOC?

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01:11:30.390 --> 01:11:35.239
Will they try to hide that and nominate a more

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01:11:35.300 --> 01:11:41.060
establishment Democrat. But here's the deal. Bill, the Democrats of old,

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01:11:41.420 --> 01:11:45.000
when you and I remember the days of Truman and

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01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:50.359
Kennedy and Scoop Jackson and even Bill Clinton are gone.

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01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:54.470
So now it's a far left party that has been

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01:11:54.659 --> 01:11:57.449
taken over now. So even if they nominate somebody like

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01:11:57.750 --> 01:12:02.149
Harris again or Buttigieg, that is a super far left Democrat.

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01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:05.710
The socialists are even further to the left. So it's left,

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01:12:06.029 --> 01:12:07.670
far left, and super far left.

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01:12:07.890 --> 01:12:10.470
They don't have any moderates. There's no more centrist. There's

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01:12:10.510 --> 01:12:14.409
no more pro-capitalism wing of the Democrat Party anymore, which

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01:12:14.470 --> 01:12:17.729
gives a great opportunity in opening for the Republicans.

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01:12:18.130 --> 01:12:20.770
Well, attention, America. I hope you listen to what Jeff

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01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:24.300
Krueger just said. There are no moderates, regardless of what

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01:12:24.340 --> 01:12:26.380
the media would want to tell you. Oh, this is

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01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:28.359
a moderate. Moderate compared to what?

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01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:29.100
You know?

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01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:33.420
I mean, just because you're not super far left, you know,

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01:12:33.460 --> 01:12:37.699
you're considered a moderate in the Democratic Party. It's just,

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01:12:37.979 --> 01:12:38.579
is this crazy?

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01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:41.159
They just tell us the fiction that Joe Biden was

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01:12:41.180 --> 01:12:44.640
a moderate. And I always oppose that because I think

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01:12:44.699 --> 01:12:46.989
his administration... was even.

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01:12:46.850 --> 01:12:50.079
Further to the left than Barack Obama because Barack Obama

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01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:51.779
was orchestrating it, as he just said.

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01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:53.819
So he's like, I'm going to go even further. So

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01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.579
it was even further to the left. So yeah, there's

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01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.279
no John Fetterman. I mean, that's about it.

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01:12:59.340 --> 01:13:03.380
There's no, they claim, oh, Andy Beshar or somebody like

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01:13:03.779 --> 01:13:08.229
John Ossoff. They're not moderates. No, none of these so-called

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01:13:08.289 --> 01:13:09.210
moderates are moderates.

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01:13:09.630 --> 01:13:12.369
Well, Brashear, because of the pressure that he's got with

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01:13:12.390 --> 01:13:17.250
the DSA, if you've listened to him recently, He's changing

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01:13:17.289 --> 01:13:20.510
some of his positions. He's finessing around it so that

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01:13:20.569 --> 01:13:25.569
he can be somewhat of a potential plausible candidate. But

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01:13:25.609 --> 01:13:28.500
it seems that, you know, all their eggs are going

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01:13:28.619 --> 01:13:32.420
into the AOC basket right now. And hopefully what she's

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01:13:32.460 --> 01:13:36.520
done is taken a geography lesson because, you know, on

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01:13:36.539 --> 01:13:42.229
the international stage, she really embarrassed herself, if you remember, right?

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01:13:43.130 --> 01:13:45.409
Oh, I know. It was at an international conference, right?

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01:13:45.510 --> 01:13:49.949
I mean, she had basically no knowledge of, you know,

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01:13:50.020 --> 01:13:56.020
basic international questions. And because, I mean, she's only been

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01:13:56.039 --> 01:14:00.800
in Congress a few terms. I think she asked about Taiwan,

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01:14:00.819 --> 01:14:03.020
if I'm not mistaken. I don't know what exact question

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01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:06.460
she was asked, but she totally flubbed it. And I mean,

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01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:09.979
it would be, I mean, she's barely eligible via the

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01:14:10.010 --> 01:14:14.630
Constitution to be president. She certainly would be a horror

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01:14:14.670 --> 01:14:17.380
show if she were elected president. I mean, she doesn't

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01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:22.300
have the skills, doesn't have the intellect. Certainly her positions

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01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:25.939
are far left. I mean, to go from somebody like

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01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:30.319
Donald Trump to somebody like AOC, I mean, I can't

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01:14:30.340 --> 01:14:32.350
even contemplate that, Bill.

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01:14:32.979 --> 01:14:36.369
Well, the thing is, people need to understand, is the socialists,

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01:14:36.390 --> 01:14:39.369
the communists, They just take. They don't give. They don't invest.

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01:14:39.409 --> 01:14:42.229
They don't know how to build up a treasury. Donald

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01:14:42.289 --> 01:14:45.100
Trump is building up a treasury. So whoever is the

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01:14:45.149 --> 01:14:49.420
next president has assets to work with. The socialists will

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01:14:49.500 --> 01:14:51.859
drain that, just like Mamdani is doing in New York.

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01:14:52.180 --> 01:14:54.619
I mean, just take a look-see of what he's doing

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01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:58.090
in these other blue states where the socialists have taken over.

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01:14:58.100 --> 01:15:01.850
I mean, they're draining the coffers and they're looking for handouts.

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01:15:01.949 --> 01:15:04.420
I mean, they're almost standing on street corners with a...

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01:15:05.449 --> 01:15:08.250
you know, with a basket, you know, we'll work for food.

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01:15:08.590 --> 01:15:12.029
Not really. Just give me the money, you know. But regardless,

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01:15:12.090 --> 01:15:14.850
I mean, they're going to turn into beggars. And that

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01:15:14.899 --> 01:15:18.319
means if they're turning into beggars, their constituencies are going

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01:15:18.340 --> 01:15:18.939
to be beggars.

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Right.

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01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:21.180
And you know what?

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01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:23.739
They're going to run all of the productive, all of

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01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:26.960
the wealthy, all the business owners out of New York City.

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01:15:27.260 --> 01:15:29.659
And the drain is going to continue. New York is

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01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:33.300
going to continue losing to Florida and other states, sort

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01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:35.479
of red states. People are going to get out of there.

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01:15:36.220 --> 01:15:38.140
And it's going to be a disaster. Look at what's

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01:15:38.180 --> 01:15:40.180
going on in California, Illinois.

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01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:42.159
I mean, that's a wake-up call, folks.

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01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:47.289
These states that implement these policies are failures. We don't

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01:15:47.310 --> 01:15:50.810
want this on the national level. It would be a disaster,

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01:15:51.310 --> 01:15:55.649
even magnified to a much greater extent nationally. So these

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01:15:55.710 --> 01:15:59.020
are like little tests to show the American people that

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01:15:59.029 --> 01:16:00.979
these policies do not work.

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01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:03.619
They're disastrous. I saw a poll though.

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01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:06.340
Even though all these people are leaving New York, even

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01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:09.479
though there's all kinds of problems there, Mondami still has

1331
01:16:09.699 --> 01:16:12.720
over 50% approval rating in New York.

1332
01:16:12.819 --> 01:16:14.939
So it's crazy.

1333
01:16:14.979 --> 01:16:18.550
The people still are supporting him there and maybe they'll

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01:16:18.569 --> 01:16:19.670
wake up eventually, Bill.

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01:16:19.750 --> 01:16:20.029
I hope.

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01:16:20.590 --> 01:16:24.390
Well, either they're smoking the polls or which we found

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01:16:24.489 --> 01:16:27.550
out that's what they do and have done recently. They

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01:16:27.590 --> 01:16:30.270
did it in California that's being reported, right? So they're

1339
01:16:30.369 --> 01:16:34.100
either fudging, somebody's putting the elbow on the meter again,

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01:16:34.149 --> 01:16:39.020
as they do, or that's all that's left. All the

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01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:42.039
conservatives and the capitalists are leaving New York in such

1342
01:16:42.060 --> 01:16:45.439
a way that they're just being overwhelmed. And that common

1343
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:48.430
sense doesn't exist, but okay, fine. We're going to leave

1344
01:16:48.470 --> 01:16:53.310
you to your publicly owned grocery stores. We're going to

1345
01:16:53.350 --> 01:16:56.550
leave you with Medicare for all, taking care of all

1346
01:16:56.569 --> 01:16:59.189
these illegal immigrants and everything like that. And then you're

1347
01:16:59.220 --> 01:17:01.520
going to be broke. I mean, you're already broke. You're

1348
01:17:01.579 --> 01:17:04.399
bankrupt for all intents and purposes right now. But all

1349
01:17:04.460 --> 01:17:07.890
that set aside, Jeff. You don't have that if you

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01:17:07.909 --> 01:17:12.550
don't have national security. And there's something about the Democrats.

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01:17:12.689 --> 01:17:15.670
It's been a long time that they've really, I don't know,

1352
01:17:15.689 --> 01:17:20.729
they're just incompetent because the prevailing mindset when it comes

1353
01:17:20.750 --> 01:17:23.149
to national security is they're not interested. You know, that's

1354
01:17:23.189 --> 01:17:26.029
happening over in Iran. So what if they get a bomb?

1355
01:17:26.489 --> 01:17:29.560
You know, it's just over there. It's not here. You know,

1356
01:17:29.569 --> 01:17:32.100
remind the people of what happened in 9-11, you know,

1357
01:17:32.109 --> 01:17:34.479
because what happens in the Middle East doesn't stay in

1358
01:17:34.500 --> 01:17:37.710
the Middle East. It visits you And it did in

1359
01:17:37.750 --> 01:17:41.050
a harsh way on 9-11 here in America. We've had

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01:17:41.090 --> 01:17:45.560
thousands of people die at the hands of these radical terrorists.

1361
01:17:46.020 --> 01:17:49.340
And you think, OK, well, it's irrelevant. So the Democrats

1362
01:17:49.380 --> 01:17:52.520
just turn a blind eye to it. And they're incompetent.

1363
01:17:53.180 --> 01:17:56.270
I can't tell you when the Democrats have come together

1364
01:17:56.390 --> 01:18:01.609
and have executed a military strategy that has made sense

1365
01:18:01.890 --> 01:18:03.729
and that has allowed us to win a war.

1366
01:18:04.979 --> 01:18:06.319
I mean, we have to go back to World War II.

1367
01:18:06.619 --> 01:18:08.500
Right. I was going to say, after World War II.

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To FDR and Truman, really. Because, I mean, at least

1369
01:18:12.619 --> 01:18:15.470
the Korean War was not a loss. It was sort

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01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:17.739
of a, you know, a tie. I mean, we were

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01:18:17.789 --> 01:18:21.010
able to secure the freedom of South Korea. But ever

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01:18:21.069 --> 01:18:23.649
since then, I mean, you know, you look at Vietnam,

1373
01:18:23.670 --> 01:18:25.789
you look at all the other wars that we've had.

1374
01:18:25.810 --> 01:18:30.229
I mean, Democrats have contributed to those losses. And look

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01:18:30.270 --> 01:18:33.229
at what happened in Afghanistan, where we withdrew from Afghanistan

1376
01:18:33.289 --> 01:18:34.170
in humiliations.

1377
01:18:34.850 --> 01:18:35.409
I mean, look at 9-11.

1378
01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:39.979
I mean, eight years of Bill Clinton neglecting everything, not

1379
01:18:40.020 --> 01:18:42.840
taking out Osama bin Laden when he could have. And then,

1380
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:45.890
of course, eight months into the Bush term, 9-11 occurs.

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01:18:45.989 --> 01:18:47.409
But I mean, I put most of the blame on

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01:18:47.470 --> 01:18:51.399
Clinton for that. And he is in He was distracted.

1383
01:18:51.420 --> 01:18:52.979
You know, he had more important things to do, like

1384
01:18:53.020 --> 01:18:56.399
chase interns and everything that he was doing. So, yeah,

1385
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.140
the biggest thing about Biden also is the open border.

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01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.250
I mean, allowing in the millions of people. Imagine how

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01:19:02.270 --> 01:19:05.189
many terrorists were let into the country, how many Chinese

1388
01:19:05.229 --> 01:19:08.470
spies were how many threats were allowed in. If you

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01:19:08.489 --> 01:19:10.750
don't have a secure border, you're opening yourself up to

1390
01:19:10.829 --> 01:19:15.449
all kinds of national security issues, which is what Biden did. So,

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01:19:15.470 --> 01:19:18.670
I mean, thankfully we've secured it now, but we've got

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01:19:18.710 --> 01:19:21.609
problems within our own country due to the negligence of Biden.

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01:19:22.050 --> 01:19:22.229
Yeah.

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01:19:22.470 --> 01:19:26.029
But at what cost? I mean, financially, the lives that

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01:19:26.060 --> 01:19:29.960
have been lost, every state in the union has lost

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01:19:30.100 --> 01:19:33.359
a citizen at the hands of an illegal immigrant, Jeff.

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01:19:33.819 --> 01:19:34.100
Yes.

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01:19:34.180 --> 01:19:34.930
What does that tell you?

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01:19:35.420 --> 01:19:38.500
Yes, that tells you that it's not getting enough attention.

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There's not enough outrage. There's not enough people that know

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about it and are taking action. The Democrats have figured, OK,

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01:19:45.899 --> 01:19:47.539
it's all right for all these people to come in

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01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:51.390
because politically it benefits us. You know, the census, it

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01:19:51.430 --> 01:19:54.689
benefits us to have all these illegals counted. You know,

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01:19:54.710 --> 01:19:57.409
when you turn them into voters, it benefits the Democrats.

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01:19:57.489 --> 01:19:57.649
So.

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01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:01.640
They say it's worth the pain.

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01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:02.989
And the suffering the American people have to go through

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01:20:03.010 --> 01:20:06.170
to help them politically because all they care about, Bill,

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01:20:06.529 --> 01:20:09.350
is power. They don't care about these people that are

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01:20:09.430 --> 01:20:13.489
their voters. They don't care about helping these people in need.

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01:20:13.810 --> 01:20:16.520
They just want the power. And I think we've seen

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01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:17.720
that time and time again.

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01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:19.180
Yes.

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01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:23.520
Lindsey Graham's voice echoes from the Kavanaugh hearings that the

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01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:26.840
Democrats are more interested in power and control. And he said,

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01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:29.810
I hope To God, you don't get it. Jeff Kruera,

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01:20:29.850 --> 01:20:32.489
as always, we appreciate the time. He's the host of

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01:20:32.510 --> 01:20:36.229
the award-winning program and author. Jeff, as always, appreciate you.

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01:20:36.380 --> 01:20:36.720
Take care.

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Thank you, Bill. Take care.

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Hey, welcome back, America. Glad you could join us. Bill

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Martinez here. We've got Ken Fisher back with us, the

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chairman and CEO of Fisher House. Ken, good morning. Good

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to have you with us.

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Thanks for having me back, Bill.

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Well, always. This month, September, National Suicide Prevention Awareness Month,

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and you're here to tell us about the progress. Are

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we making any progress on what our veterans are dealing

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with here? I understand that A 2026 report from the

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Department of Veterans Affairs revealed that more than 6,000 vets

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died by suicide in 2023. Is that right?

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That's correct, yes.

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That's 50% more than the civilian sector. But to me, Bill,

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there's a more compelling one. Brown University came out with

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a study. You know, it's the 25th anniversary of 9-11.

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Since 9-11, 31,000 veterans have committed suicide, which means a

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veteran is four times as likely to die by suicide

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than to die on the battlefield. And we get crazy

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with numbers, but behind every one of those numbers is

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a face, is a name, and a family that are

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all suffering because the entire family serves.

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Right.

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Yeah, you can actually multiply that number by three or four, Ken,

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because of the immediate family that's involved, not to mention friends, associates,

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brothers in arms, And, you know, you think about that

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number and this, the 25th anniversary of 9-11, most of

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those soldiers, they responded to the call after 9-11, didn't they?

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Yeah, 1% of the nation responded, which means a couple

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of things. One, 1% served this nation with their hearts,

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their minds, their bodies, and their lives. But by the

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same token, That means that a lot of us have

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no idea what these men and women have gone through.

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So when somebody comes back with post-traumatic stress, you know,

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people don't really understand what that means.

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Why do they have it? What cause? I don't know

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what that means. Well, because you don't know what it

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is to serve in combat. So you need to learn

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about it.

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You know, we need to keep this conversation going because, Bill,

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not everyone can have the conversation we're having.

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Yeah, exactly.

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If one veteran hears what we're talking about and we

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remove that stigma and he or she comes forward, then

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we have accomplished our mission.

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Right.

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Well, the thing that happens with PTSD and things that

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cause depression is that, uh, it ends up isolating the person,

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which is the worst thing that could happen. And, uh,

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and people like you say, 1%, that's been the traditional

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number outside of world war two. Uh, of civilians who

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have served our country and have put on the uniform,

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about 1%. And so 99% really do not quite understand.

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And so it's because they don't understand, it's hard for

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a vet to go and talk to their family members

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or talk to a non-military fraternal brother who has experienced,

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you know, a battlefield experience.

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That's exactly right. And that's where the privates, the.

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Communities... and the peer groups.

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So many veterans, when they retire, they cluster.

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They retire in clusters.

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These kind of peer groups, while this is a national issue,

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national issues got to start somewhere, and that's where the

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communities start. And so peer groups and the fact that

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these people are not alone goes so far towards, first

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01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:07.659
of all, removing that stigma, but secondly- giving them the

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opportunity to take that first step.

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Well, your late great uncle, Zachary Fisher, whose vision is

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the result of the Fisher House Foundation, frankly, he understood that.

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And your family, this has been a generational commitment by

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your family to honor your late great uncle and those

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of us who have served our country. And I got

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to tell you, Ken, I always appreciate and look forward

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to our time together because Again, we just want to

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support 150% everything that the Fisher Foundation stands for and

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what you're doing.

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Well, we appreciate that, Bill, and you have.

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You've been one of our best friends, for sure, over

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the years. Making them aware that these issues exist and

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making the country aware that Suicide Prevention Month is a

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01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.949
good place to start But we need to do more,

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and we need to get mobilized, and we need to

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hold our public officials accountable, not just during re-election time,

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not just during Suicide Prevention Month. But if we know

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somebody who's having an issue, the VA does have a hotline. Sorry,

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I'm at the airport. It is 838- 255, text that number,

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or dial 988 and press 1. hours a day, seven

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days a week, confidential, free of course, but there. So

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there is a lot of help that is out there.

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We just need to get these men and women to

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come forward and seek that treatment.

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And the thing is, it's, It's an all-encompassing commitment, as

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you say. It could be other brothers in arms. Family

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01:29:04.739 --> 01:29:08.500
members notice this right away. They know something's off right away.

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And sometimes it's hard for them to, as you say, Ken,

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to have this conversation and to know how to come

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alongside their loved one who has served in the military, right?

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01:29:18.829 --> 01:29:21.149
So what do you tell them? How do you encourage

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them to come alongside their family member?

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01:29:25.609 --> 01:29:28.090
Well, what I like to do is I'm trying to

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get these men and women seen earlier. I don't, I

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think that the biggest, I think the most important time

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is the separation. And when they finally get home, you know,

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at least they're already seeking treatment rather than getting home

1561
01:29:45.380 --> 01:29:48.479
and having, you know, three, four months go by and

1562
01:29:48.500 --> 01:29:52.479
the problem is manifesting. Because remember, the impact is not

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01:29:52.539 --> 01:29:56.840
just on them. It's the whole family. And that includes children.

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And we have to be mindful of that because this

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is not going away. This problem is going to be

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with us for a long time. So we need to

1567
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get mobilized and we need to get things moving. We

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need to put forward the programs that work and we

1569
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:15.659
need to hold our public officials accountable. At the end

1570
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of the day, it's all going to start and end

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in Washington.

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Right.

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Well, and of course, the home where these soldiers go

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That's the first line of defense. And we need to

1575
01:30:27.739 --> 01:30:32.319
encourage these families to understand, look, it's difficult and you

1576
01:30:32.390 --> 01:30:34.729
need support. And there is support for you as a

1577
01:30:34.789 --> 01:30:38.489
family member because you're dealing with something that it's hard

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01:30:38.529 --> 01:30:41.590
to comprehend because unless you yourself have been on the

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battlefield and have experienced what your loved one has experienced,

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01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:49.840
you're hard pressed. And all you can do is pray

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01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:53.140
and come alongside and love them But meanwhile, you know,

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01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:56.159
as you're saying, Ken, we need to educate ourselves. We

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01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.760
need to, you know, do some extra work and understand

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01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:02.960
that we're not alone in this battle. And it's a

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good fight. I mean, after all, our loved one went

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to go and preserve freedom on our behalf. The least

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we can do is come alongside them and help them

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01:31:10.829 --> 01:31:18.810
get through, you know, this trauma that they've experienced. Is

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that fair to say, Ken?

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It doesn't end, Bill, when the loved one finally commits suicide.

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That family suffers for years, if not longer. So we

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01:31:34.380 --> 01:31:38.659
need to remember what we're dealing with here. This is

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a group of men and women that 1% served and

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01:31:45.729 --> 01:31:49.350
made sacrifices and bared burdens that the average American will

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01:31:49.390 --> 01:31:54.859
never understand. It's time we learned about what's going on.

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And don't be afraid. As unpleasant as these conversations are,

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01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:04.579
we can't be afraid to have them. Because the only

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way change is going to happen is if we put

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these issues.

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Out in the center.

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Exactly.

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Well, as you say, Ken, each loss underscores the urgent

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need for continued investment in mental health support for veterans,

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service members, and civilians alike. And the Fisher House Foundation

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has been there upfront leading the charge. And how can

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our audience come alongside Ken and support you and all

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that the Fisher House is doing?

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Our website is fisherhouse.org.

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On it, we're going to put the suicide hotline number

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on that, the website as well. You'll learn a lot

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about us and what we do. We're family centric. We've

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always been about the family. And when we evolve, we.

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Evolve in a family-oriented way.

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So this issue is just an extension of a family

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issue in our minds. So we're tackling this as best

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we can, given the resources that we have.

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We need all hands on deck to this end. And

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Ken Fisher, the chairman and CEO of Fisher House Foundation,

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God bless you. Thank you so much for Thanks for

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having me back, Bill. You take care. God bless you.

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Hey, we're back with you. I'm Bill Martinez. He's Dr.

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Bonner Cohen. Bonner, how are you?

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I'm doing very well, Bill. And I hope you and

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our listeners are too.

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Well, I'm sure they are. Bonner is the senior policy

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analyst with the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. And Bonner,

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it looks like the Greens, you know, they just can't

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go away. You know, they're like those cockroaches that just

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01:37:48.770 --> 01:37:50.109
keep on growing another head.

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That's right. I think they recognize that, at least for

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a foreseeable future, the salad days have come and gone.

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The quick transition that they had envisioned the transition from

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fossil fuels to, quote, unquote, clean energy. The pathway seemed

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01:38:15.300 --> 01:38:20.319
all set for that. The regulations were in place. The

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subsidies had been duly handed out to eager recipients, and

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it was just going to be a matter of time

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before out went oil and natural gas, and in came

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wind turbines and solar panels. Well, it turns out that

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the world's a bit more complicated than that. There are

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all sorts of problems associated with transition. In fact, I

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01:38:44.340 --> 01:38:49.060
think we can safely say that there is no transition possible.

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It is true that more wind energy and more solar

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01:38:56.960 --> 01:39:02.979
energy are being produced today than 5, 10, 15 years ago.

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But it's not replacing fossil fuels or nuclear or hydro.

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It's simply adding to it. But at the same time,

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we are producing more fossil fuels than ever before, particularly

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in the United States. And as a result, globally, fossil

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01:39:23.579 --> 01:39:30.189
fuels still account for already 86% of all the energy

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01:39:30.270 --> 01:39:34.949
that is produced. 86%. That's about the same as what

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it was 30 years ago. And so nothing has changed.

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And as we look around the world and we see

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those parts of the world where the transition has quote

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01:39:47.989 --> 01:39:51.750
unquote taken place, what have been the results? Let's go

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to Europe. Countries in European Union, including Britain in this case,

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01:39:58.670 --> 01:40:07.800
derive 34% of their electricity from wind and solar with

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a result that Europe has far and away the highest

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energy prices in the world.

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And that's without ice and air conditioning, Bonner.

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That's exactly right. Right. Per kilowatt hour, electricity costs three

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01:40:26.689 --> 01:40:29.949
times as much in Germany as it does in the

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United States. And remember, the American figure is somewhat inflated

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because you have places like California and New York and

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01:40:40.579 --> 01:40:43.960
Washington and Oregon and what have you that bumped that up.

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If you were to compare that with, say, Texas or

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01:40:48.020 --> 01:40:52.970
Florida or Tennessee, it would be probably four times as much. Well,

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the point is Europe's economy cannot compete globally. If the Europeans,

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particularly in their manufacturing, are having to pay so much

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for electricity, So they have been engaging in unilateral disarmament

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through decarbonization, which actually translates to deindustrialization.

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01:41:19.350 --> 01:41:22.439
Exactly. What are they going to do with AI? I mean,

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they can't even really consider AI, can they?

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No, they can't. They're being left out of the AI race.

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Because putting a data center in Europe, where are you

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going to get the electricity? So what I think this

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01:41:41.029 --> 01:41:44.989
is going to mean is Europe is going to have to,

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to the extent that it uses AI at all, it's

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going to have to piggyback on what is being done

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in the United States and elsewhere simply because they don't

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have the electricity. that will enable them to have their

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own access to artificial intelligence. And this is something they

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01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:10.560
haven't begun to come to terms with.

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01:42:10.739 --> 01:42:14.819
Well, and of course, they're, you know, they're hamstrung because

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of their connection. And, you know, they're just so connected

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to the European Union. Of course, Britain is not, but

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all the other European nations are. And so this really

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01:42:26.489 --> 01:42:28.489
retards the process for them, doesn't it?

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Yes, it does. And even though Britain is no longer

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in the European Union, on its own, it has adopted

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policies that differ very little from what is going on

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on the continent, with the result that Britain's industries are

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every bit as uncompetitive as those on the European continent,

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be they in Germany and France or what have you.

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Britain has now at long last decided, well, you know,

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we may be able to use that North Sea oil

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after all. So they have lifted some of the restrictions

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on that and intend to go after that, not that

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they should ever have abandoned it to begin with. But

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at the same time, the green ideology has such a

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grip on Britain but they're still putting up wind turbines.

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They're still putting up solar panels. In other words, the

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change there isn't going to be that much. As a result,

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the continent is just becoming geopolitically and in terms of economically,

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it's becoming more irrelevant with each passing day.

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Well, and it's probably, you know, you think about this, Bonner,

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it's probably why they're cheering on what's going on in

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Iran right now, right? Because this favors them.

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Yeah, it does in the short term. I think they're

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ultimately going to have to come to terms, however, with

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however Iran, the whole thing in Iran ends, if what

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the Trump administration is now doing. instead of seeking some

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sort of out-and-out military victory, which they fear will involve

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putting boots on the ground. Nobody wants to do that

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01:44:22.270 --> 01:44:26.810
after the experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. But rather, you

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can carry out a severe form of economic war against

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Iran and bring them to their knees. Now, whether that

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will happen or not, we'll see. And if it does,

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how quickly? Will it be in three weeks or three years?

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Nobody knows. Right.

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The other thing too, Bonner, I'm just thinking that in

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terms of the pressure that they're putting on Iran, like

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you said, we don't know how fast or how slow

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this could take. You're dealing with a death cult. For them,

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this is an issue of life and death, not to

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mention some religious fervor that involves Islam as well. Because

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they're believing that You know, they're holding out for their

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01:45:13.930 --> 01:45:17.590
Mahdi and they feel like where they are right now,

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it is offering that opportunity for the Mahdi to come back.

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And so till death do them part.

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That's right. I mean, their goal right now against tremendous

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odds against the U.S. is simply survival because there's really

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no place for. For the hundreds of thousands of IRGC people,

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you're talking about secret police, what have you, where are

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01:45:46.140 --> 01:45:48.239
they going to go? They're not going to retire to

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Florida or Texas or Tennessee. Some of them may be

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able to escape to Russia, but there's probably an upper

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limit in Russia, unless, of course, they're willing to go

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to Ukraine and be used as cannon fodder there, which

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01:46:05.189 --> 01:46:09.390
has probably occurred to some Russian generals eager for manpower.

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But outside of that, there's a real problem with these people.

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They have no place to go. And the Arab states,

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01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:21.739
the Gulf Arab states, don't want them at all. Exactly.

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Yeah. Any more than they want Hamas, right?

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That's right. Exactly. So they have real incentive to hang

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on as long as they possibly can. They hope they

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can wait out Trump. But that's something over which they

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don't have that much control. If the economy completely collapses,

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a big if, but if it does... And absolutely nothing

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01:46:46.869 --> 01:46:50.500
in Iran works. Who's to say what will happen? We

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have seen these things happen before. When the Shah's government

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collapsed 47 years ago, the same kind of thing could

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happen there. What will follow it is anyone's guess. But

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to be sure, we have seen for the last time

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Iran's using of the Strait of Hormuz, because the Gulf

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states are simply making, shall we say, they're making other plans.

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They're going to get their oil. They're going to send

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it out over pipelines. They're never going to allow themselves

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to be put in a position where they are dependent

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on the goodwill of whoever happens to be in power

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in Tehran for the export of their oil and natural gas.

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Well, the other thing that America is doing, which I

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think is prudent and it's leadership by Donald Trump, and

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that is that, you know, some people would just go

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and just blow the holy what have you out of Iran.

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And then you got a, you know, trillion dollar price

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tag to rebuild. And Donald Trump is trying to hold

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together as much as possible the infrastructure so that there's,

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you know, reasonable minimal damage that you can have, you know,

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all things considered with all the targets that they've been doing. But,

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you know, I think people, and this is something that

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they're not reporting on. Of course, they're not going to, right?

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Yeah, that's right. They don't want to walk into the

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same situation that we found ourselves confronted with. at the

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end of World War II, when we were the occupying

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power in Japan and in Germany, and we were occupying

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01:48:28.289 --> 01:48:33.399
a lot of rubble. want to have to go back

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and do all of that over again so as you

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said we want to leave as much of the infrastructure

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01:48:40.189 --> 01:48:44.699
there in place as possible no saturation bombing of residential

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01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:47.479
areas or anything like that because after all these are

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01:48:47.500 --> 01:48:50.859
the people we want to liberate not with our soldiers

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01:48:50.979 --> 01:48:54.569
but with other forces that we think can be brought

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to bear to rid that country and the world of

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01:48:58.930 --> 01:49:02.029
the mullahs in Tehran. Again, we don't know whether it's

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going to work, but that is one of the reasons,

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01:49:04.770 --> 01:49:07.529
while we're not, contrary to what Trump said, we're going

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to bomb the hell out of them, we're going to

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bomb the hell out of certain parts of the country.

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But big chunks of it, we are leaving intact on purpose.

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01:49:15.949 --> 01:49:20.260
Well, hopefully this economic pressure, like you said, Bonner, is

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something that can work effectively. you know, quickly. That would

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be in the best interest, I believe, for all concerned.

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We got to leave it there. Dr. Bonner-Cohen, the Senior

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Policy Analyst for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. Thank you, Bonner.

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Take care.

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