Sept. 1, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 09 01 26

The Bill Martinez Show 09 01 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 09 01 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now, Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, America. Glad you could join us six

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minutes after the top of the hour right now. We've

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got Murtad Mardy Yousafzani joining us. He's the director of

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the Iran Freedom Project with the Middle East Forum. Mardy,

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welcome to the show. Good to have you with us.

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Thank you, Bill. Thanks for having.

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Lots to talk about here. I love what you're bringing

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up here because I agree with you. I think that

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what's been missing in all that's been going on with Iran,

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you know, bombs, now sanctions that seem to be going.

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I mean, last I was checking this morning, I think,

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what is it, over two million to one ratio against

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the dollar right now. You know, gas lines. It just

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has to be horrendous. for the people, for the Iranians there.

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But as we've been saying, when you're negotiating with a

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death cult, for them, they look at it as, in

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a sense, they have nothing to lose. I mean, and

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I think it's hard for people in the West to

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understand this because we cherish life. They're not worried so

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much about this life because they see life beyond this,

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this time here, right?

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That's correct, Bill.

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I think it's very telling. Secretary Besant today or yesterday

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said something that really stands out. And he said that

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we're trying to push and we hope and we expect

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that the Iranians, meaning the regime, will come to their senses.

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Well, that's the key point.

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Their senses, what they sense and what their ideology tells

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them is not intuitive, is not based on what we

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believe sensibility is. They have an ideology that believes in

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martyrdom They have an ideology that dictates to them to

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fight to the death, to the end, and there is

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no exit for them. And so they will elevate, elevate

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the tension and try to raise the risk reward ratio

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as far as they see it, not how we see

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it here in the West. And so that is the

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issue and that's a challenge.

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Well, and the thing that is a challenge for us

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here in the West, and I believe we're still carrying

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the grief of World War II and releasing the atom

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bomb in Japan. I believe that that haunts us to

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this day when it comes to military action. And we

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have been careful as a country to say, hey, we

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don't want to go there. But the deal is, is

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that you can't dictate that. War has a personality and

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demands of its own. And I think that when you

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start trying to orchestrate an outcome that is out of

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your purview, so to speak, I think you get yourself

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in trouble and you get into a quagmire, which is

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what we've experienced since World War II. Because, I mean,

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whether we're talking about Japan or Germany, those were two

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like-minded death cults, were they not?

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Well, I mean, I think at the end of the day,

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what you're saying, Bill, is that the cost-benefit ratio, whatever

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caused and enabled the end of the Pacific campaign, World

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War II, to come to an end, That notwithstanding, what

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we're looking at today is the cost, the cost on

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certainly the United States Armed Forces, the cost on global economy,

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and as well as the cost on the Iranian people.

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Let's remember, do not destroy the country you claim to

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seek to free. That means exactly what you're saying. If

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we have this military option on the table right now, unfortunately,

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there is a measure beyond, there is a point in

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measure beyond which it is counterproductive. And we want to

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make sure that somehow we have a deterrent effect against

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the regime. At the same time, make sure that Iranian

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people themselves do not catastrophically get cornered, because at the

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end of the day, it'll be a lose-lose. So we

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need to make sure how far we need to take

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this far.

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Well, and the thing that we've already realized, you've had

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I've heard estimates anywhere from 50,000 to 80,000 citizens that

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have been murdered by the IRGC there in Iran. And

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that grieves most of us here in this country. And

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as you state, we're seeing the military pressure, but we're

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not seeing the political architecture. How do we raise up

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the political architecture? And it's got to be something more

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than just saying, hey, we got to get the people guns.

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I mean, there has to be something there. that we're

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not doing in order to, I guess, to add pressure,

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you know, upon this current regime that would force them

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out because, you know, having, you know, hundreds of thousands

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of people in the streets only invites the IRGC to

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mow them down again, right?

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Well, that's, yes, that's true.

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And wherever the numbers are, there are a thousand too

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many killed. Now, of course, the regime has been very

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capable of obfuscating the actual number of people it killed

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a few months ago. But we saw that the regime

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has never held back. It has consistently basically signaled to

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the Iranian people and the world and the region that

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it will do all it can to stay in power.

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And that means killing its own citizenry. So when the West,

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when the United States looks at Iran, there's a point

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at which we need to look at how how exactly

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will the Iranian people, which are our biggest and most

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important asset, how can they be empowered? I'm very happy

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to have seen that Washington has sort of avoided anointing

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anyone from exile to serve as successor to the regime

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because it knows that whatever actually assumes, whatever process assumes

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power in Iran will need to come from inside Iran.

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So the instinct is right there. I think at this point,

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Washington needs to look at how to amplify connectivity inside

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Iran among the people, how to document the crimes against

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humanity that the regime has committed, allow and create space

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for pluralistic coordination inside Iran so that the Iranian people

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can come together. Let's not forget The regime and its

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goons and its leaders have nowhere to go. They have

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no off exit ramp. They have nowhere to go. So

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it's very, very important when we look at the additional

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pressure coming on. What is the exit ramp Washington is

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looking to offer to the Iranian regime? At this point,

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it's a lose-lose. The regime has nowhere to go. It

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is under enormous economic pressure. As you said, the rial

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has collapsed. 2 million. At one point it was 70.

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You know, 47 years ago, when this regime took over,

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the rial was 70 to a dollar. Today it's 2 million.

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Shortage of gas, food, water, all sorts of services have

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been shut down, government in terms of servicing the citizens

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of Iran. And so it's a matter of time where

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the regime itself, the state may be facing collapse, but

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not the political infrastructure. And that is the challenge we're facing.

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A state collapsing is one thing, a regime walking away

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and handing power is another.

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Yeah.

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And what's the likelihood of that regime walking away?

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Well, it is not likely at all because it has

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demonstrated as it exercised in Syria when it decided to

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sustain Bashar Assad, it, it, executed and put into practice

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what it is doing today, meaning taking guns and clubs

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to the streets and against the people. And this is

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where this combination of massive military strikes and punitive measures

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that was delivered to the Iranian regime combined with the

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economic collapse brings pause and concern to us because when

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you have a population incapacitated and unable to take on

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a regime, we have a combination that is very, very

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concerning there. So we need to take a pause and

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make sure whatever comes next includes a political solution, as

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you said, a political architecture that allows a transition. At

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this point, war and missiles and dropping bombs has not

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proven effective. And so we need to combine and bring

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together a political formula whereby those opposition figures inside Iran

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can combine and organize their resources with the Iranian street,

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with the people, and hopefully convince a process whereby a

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transition that's acceptable can come into play.

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We're talking with Mirdad Yusufiani. He's the director of the

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Iran Freedom Project of the Middle East Forum. 15 years

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as a senior strategic counselor to Iran's crown prince, an

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insider opposition perspective, a current analysis of the Middle East Forum,

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credible nonpartisan policy voice, and bridges the gap between Trump's

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military pressure and the need for democratic alternatives. So, Marty,

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where we are right now, and as much as we

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can feel, what the Iranian people must be enduring right now,

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and just hoping that there's some answer to all this,

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to where they could realize freedom. Because as you've been

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reporting on this, I mean, the people there in Iran,

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outside of the ruling regime, they have aspirations of a

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democratic society, do they not?

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Absolutely.

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That is what the Iranian people have communicated. to the regime,

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to the region, to the world. Over the past 47 years,

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just a few months ago, we saw massive demonstrations. Prior

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to that, under the Women, Life, Freedom movement, we saw

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massive demonstrations. Even prior to that, the Green Revolution, so cyclically,

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the Iranian people have basically demonstrated the courage to show

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that they reject the regime. Now, we need to make

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sure here that it is not the Iranian people who

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get punished, and so outside of targeting strategic infrastructure, which

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is catastrophic for the people who need to succeed and

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take over a vibrant country, we need to make sure

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that whatever we do is strategically targeting the regime's off-book networks,

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the regime's repression apparatus, and the IRGC's economic empire.

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The combination of.

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Those three elements, I think, will effectively stop the breathing

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of the regime and allow the Iranian people to sort

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of take on and see what they can do to

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take over power.

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Is it true that the soldiers are not being paid

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right now, Marnie?

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Well, I think the economic pressure that we have seen,

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the fall of oil sales, in fact, down to zero

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in And the billions, hundreds of billions of dollars of

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the Iranian regime's assets that are frozen all over the world,

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that is actually the pain point that the regime is

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facing right now. Don't listen to me. Listen to the president,

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Pesachian himself, just over the weekend said that it's catastrophic

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economic conditions. He himself said inflation is at 100%. And

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he himself said that they have no you know, the

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piggy bank is empty. And so I can see under

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those conditions, payroll not to be met. Of course, what

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the regime has been doing is it just prints money.

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It prints money to meet payroll, but that printing, as

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we all know, creates inflation and massive pressures on the

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people itself.

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What about the Ayatollah? Is he alive or dead?

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That's the million-dollar question. I have a sense that even

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if he is alive, he is not in a very

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good condition. So I really don't know, but it really

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matters not. It'll take years, if not decades, for any

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leader to sort of consolidate power under the best of circumstances.

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It took his father several years to consolidate his power.

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And so under these conditions, even if he was alive

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or even if he was functioning 100%. It'll be very,

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very difficult with the economic conditions and the political pressures

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for him to really take charge and demonstrate his reign.

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So I think it's a matter of time for him

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to be sort of sidelined either formally by the military

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coup that we in effect de facto have right now

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by IRGC.

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Yeah, I was going to say, who's in charge?

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IRGC, they have the guns, they have the butter. They

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have the suppressive machine. They have an economic empire that

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they singularly are focused on maintaining, including their heads.

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That's why they will not go. Well, they played the

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Estrella Hormuz card, and Trump has trumped them in as

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much as that clear to all the minds, is controlling

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what goes in, what goes out, just as you reported

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here just a moment ago. You know, there's no Iranian

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oil that's exiting the Strait of Hormuz right now.

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That's right.

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Iran's strategic value over centuries, certainly over the past century

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and past 40, 50, 60 years, because of the Strait

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of Hormuz being the lifeline of energy to the world,

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has been its strategic value. I fear that the regime

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has overextended its hand because it was its final trump card,

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no puns intended here, but it was its final card.

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And I think it's stretching it too far because Washington

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has demonstrated that it can somehow open up the flow

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of oil, albeit at reduced numbers, but it is demonstrating

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that it can do it. And long term. The advantage

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will be Washington's and not the Islamic Republic of Iran,

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and that is a catastrophe, an economic one as well

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as political, that the regime will not be able to survive.

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Well, we don't hear much these days from Oman. We

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did for a bit. What's their status?

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I'm sorry, from who?

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With Oman. Oman, yeah.

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It's got to balance between its neighborly needs as well

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as managing a hostile beast that it has sort of

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experienced in the past 47 years. So it's not an

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easy position for Oman to be at. So it's doing

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its best somehow manage a flow and protect its own interests.

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So It's difficult.

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Of course, some of the rhetoric that sometimes comes out

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of Washington is not helpful, but the Omanis have done

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their best, in my view, to play an honest broker

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here and have served the interest of Washington and the

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West for a long time now, having mediated over and

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over again from release of hostages and prisoners and exchanges

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and so forth. But it is in a situation that

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is not envious. Deal with a beast or deal with

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the beast.

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Pick your beast, I guess.

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Exactly.

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Marty, we got a little more than two and a

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half minutes left here. What needs to happen? What moves

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do Washington need to make now in order to expedite

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the collapse of this regime? Right.

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Well, the dynamics are very simple.

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There is absolute deep, deep mistrust between the two parties

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here going back 47 years, half a century, Washington deeply

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mistrusts the Islamic Republic of Iran for good reason. And

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counter wise, the Islamic Republic of Iran deeply mistrusts Washington

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for its own series of reasonings. So there is no

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love lost there. And the challenge here is how to

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overcome this mistrust. For example, that MOU, which was enormously

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beneficial and it was an imbalance in favor of the

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Islamist regime was not effectuated. Why? Because the Iranian regime,

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at the end of the day, felt there must be

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something up and that it cannot trust Washington. Well, today,

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we sense, we see, there are hints that the Iranian

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regime actually would like to possibly execute pieces, if not

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all of that, 14-point MOU back then. So this mistrust

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has somehow need to be overcome if Washington is going

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to offer itself, find itself an exit ramp to reduce

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the energy pressures on the global markets, as well as

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if the Iranian regime wishes to sort of reduce the

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economic collapse that it's facing, it needs to somehow overcome

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that mistrust. I fear However, the ideological depth driving the

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Iranian regime is such that unless those elements that are

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emerging in Iran today that favor sort of a pause,

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an MOU, a peace of some sort, I'm not saying

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they're ultimately the good guys, but there are elements that

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are favoring a reduction of tensions if they get the

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upper hand There is a chance here. Otherwise, it's going

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to be escalation and more tensions and more catastrophic kinetic

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options on the table.

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I understand. He's the director of Iran Freedom Project, Middle

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East Forum, Mirdad Mardy Yousafiani. Mirdad, thank you so much

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for being with us. Appreciate the time.

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Thank you, Bill, for having me.

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Hey, welcome back. I'm Bill Martinez. He's Jeff Kemp, the

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ministry leader and author and former NFL QB.

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Mr.

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Jeff, how are we doing?

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I'm well.

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How are you, Bill?

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Hey, I'm doing terrific. I wanted to talk today about,

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if we can, I've been reading a new book, Jonathan

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Cahn's new book, The Altar of Pergamon. And it really

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has brought to mind several things because his earlier book

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was about the return of the gods. And what's happening

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in terms of the spiritual battle that we're in and

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that we're seeing more and more demonic expression being displayed

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in our culture. And it's quite fascinating. Jonathan is an

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interesting individual. He's a Messianic rabbi. So he understands all

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the nuance of the Old Testament and Jewish culture that

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is so valuable to help us understand some background there. Uh,

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and also the other thing that I found and I've

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known Jonathan for ever since I got a Bible college.

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So we're going back almost 20 years and he and

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I just kind of connected from day one. And, and

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what I appreciated about his spirit was that he had this,

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this sense, because when God called me to get back

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behind the microphone again, uh, I, I, I said, God,

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are you sure about that? Because, you know, when I

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was behind the microphone, I was in LA and I was,

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I was a juvenile, I was playing music, taking requests

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and just having fun. And God said, no, no, no, no,

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I don't want you to do that. I want you

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to do a talk show and talk about the word,

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talk about the truth, the truth of God. I said, God,

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you sure? I'm sitting here just thinking, I'm lucky to

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be alive by your grace and mercy. You sure you

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want me to do this? And so as we were

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having our conversation, over a period of time, I said, okay, God,

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if this is what you want me to do, bring

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people into my realm, into the radio show that are

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directly connected to you, that have revelation, that have gone

475
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into your throne room, had conversations with you. You know,

476
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.599
like Moses, he was face-to-face with you. You know, send

477
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.299
me those people. Open the door in context with that. Well,

478
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Jonathan was one of the few that I was able

479
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to connect with on that basis. And I found him

480
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to be quite connected with And and his vision and

481
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the things that he was seeing in the culture was

482
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it was things you had to say that had to

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come from God. It was almost like a Peter Jesus moment.

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You know, when when Jesus asked him, who do you

485
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who do they say I am? You know, who do

486
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you say I am? And Peter says, well, you're Jesus Christ.

487
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You're the Messiah. And Jesus says, well, hey, no mere

488
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mortal told you that. I know you got that from God.

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Right.

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So so it's those kind of things. And like, you know,

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and this is what I enjoy about our relationship, because oftentimes,

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you know, you and I have said, hey, what are

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we going to talk about? We get here and say, OK, God,

494
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you know, take it. And the Holy Spirit comes in and,

495
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you know, we're talking about things. And I don't know

496
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.819
about you, but my friends, they go, hey, I heard

497
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that interview, you know, that you had with Jeff Kemp.

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And I know you, you're not that smart. And I go,

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of course, I'm not that smart.

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Nor is Jeff.

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Yeah.

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But, you know, I said, you know, you do this

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sometimes and you just hang on to the spirit of

504
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God and say, OK, God, what is it that you

505
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want your people to hear? And all that to say is,

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first of all, let me say this. You've got to

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get your hands on the book, his latest book. It's

508
00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:12.420
a bit of an allegory, almost like his first book, Harbinger.

509
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I don't know if you were familiar with that.

510
00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:17.869
But this was called The Altar of Pergamon. Yes. The

511
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mystery of the dark angel, the future of the world.

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Right.

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And what it does, it points to, as you know,

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Pergamon was one of the seven churches that were judged

515
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in the book of Revelations. And what was in Pergamon?

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What was in Pergamon was the throne of Satan. And

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when Jesus came, then that throne kind of got buried.

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And what happened was a couple of German archaeologists, this

519
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is even before Germany was German, you know, was a country,

520
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but they were from that area from Prussia and they

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started digging up this altar and, uh, and they moved

522
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it to Germany. Now this is in the latter 1800s.

523
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And it's interesting how, when they moved it to Germany,

524
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what happened and that influence that, that satanic influence of

525
00:32:18.059 --> 00:32:22.049
the throne of Satan, moving to Germany, what impact that

526
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had on the world. And it coincides with the birth

527
00:32:26.069 --> 00:32:29.490
of Adolf Hitler. It coincides with the rise of the

528
00:32:29.529 --> 00:32:36.380
Third Reich. It coincides with the nationalism and the ordination

529
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of the country of Germany and two world wars. And

530
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it's just, it's phenomenal. So I highly recommend that book.

531
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.960
But all that to say, Jeff, It brought me to

532
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.019
this point of saying, we have to get serious about

533
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.400
our faith. I mean, you know, people are somewhat casual

534
00:32:56.460 --> 00:32:59.740
about it. And there's going to be that time when

535
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.799
we're in front of Jesus and Jesus may ask you

536
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.720
that same question. You know, who do you say I am?

537
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And if you don't have the right answer, he's going

538
00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:13.480
to say, get away from me. I don't even know you.

539
00:33:13.660 --> 00:33:15.200
And you're going to say, hey, wait a minute. I

540
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.130
went to church on Sunday. I served donuts and coffee.

541
00:33:18.170 --> 00:33:21.849
I went to the poor. But your heart was never

542
00:33:21.950 --> 00:33:26.559
with me. You were really never committed to me 100%.

543
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And I think we need to have that conversation more

544
00:33:32.579 --> 00:33:36.000
and more, you know, with our loved ones, with ourselves,

545
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.920
to say, okay, where are you with Jesus?

546
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.319
That's, I think, the most important question, the question that

547
00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:49.809
Jesus asked. his disciples, and Peter's the one who answered

548
00:33:49.869 --> 00:33:53.769
it and answered it well. Who do you say that

549
00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:56.829
I am? Who do you say that I am? And

550
00:33:57.869 --> 00:34:02.779
in your checkbook, in your schedule, in your conversations, in

551
00:34:02.990 --> 00:34:07.720
the way you spend your time, in your choice to

552
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.780
attend church and be a part of it, or just

553
00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:13.300
occasionally drop by and check the box.

554
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:15.579
Are you.

555
00:34:17.489 --> 00:34:22.449
Demonstrating and proving that your answer to the question, who

556
00:34:22.469 --> 00:34:26.369
do you say that I am, is who Jesus really is.

557
00:34:26.469 --> 00:34:32.489
Because Jesus made such amazing claims and backed them up

558
00:34:32.889 --> 00:34:40.670
with a completely loving, humble, compassionate, courageous, truthful, uniting, healing, reconciling,

559
00:34:42.030 --> 00:34:46.199
perfectly obedient to the Father life. And of course, his

560
00:34:46.260 --> 00:34:51.550
resurrection from crucifixion and death, that if he says, I'm

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the way, the truth, and the life, I'm the only

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way to the Father. And if you believe in me

563
00:34:59.289 --> 00:35:03.690
and confess me, you'll have eternal life. But apart from me,

564
00:35:04.530 --> 00:35:08.429
you don't have eternal life and you don't have anything

565
00:35:08.889 --> 00:35:14.539
that's good. Then it really calls for a complete decision.

566
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You know, Romans 12, verse 1 and 2.

567
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:17.840
Exactly.

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Present your body, your time, your thoughts, your mind, your family,

569
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your marriage, your house and assets, your future to God

570
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as your living sacrifice.

571
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Right.

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00:35:29.619 --> 00:35:35.090
And it's not like a sacrifice that's painful. No sacrifice

573
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made for God is really a sacrifice because he made

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the ultimate sacrifice and we benefit when we sacrifice for him.

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Unless you're like that wealthy young man who, when asked,

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when he asked Jesus, what else can I do? And

577
00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:52.050
Jesus said, sell everything, give it to the poor and

578
00:35:52.110 --> 00:35:55.079
follow me, take up your cross. And he goes, oh,

579
00:35:55.699 --> 00:35:56.280
can't do that.

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00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.500
And that was because that young man wanted control of

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00:36:00.539 --> 00:36:04.579
his life. He had created security and identity around his wealth.

582
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.389
He may have followed the religious rules and the 10 commandments,

583
00:36:09.889 --> 00:36:13.170
but he, He actually didn't because he had a God

584
00:36:13.230 --> 00:36:17.809
and an idol higher than God. That was control, himself,

585
00:36:18.530 --> 00:36:22.750
his life. So there's the question you're asking about, you know,

586
00:36:22.969 --> 00:36:28.039
you'll meet Jesus at the end. And did you follow

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00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.340
him and surrender to him? Were you born again and

588
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:31.820
make him the priority in your life?

589
00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:34.920
Or did you not? Because it's not just lip service, right?

590
00:36:35.579 --> 00:36:38.500
The other side of that question is right now, living

591
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:43.050
with God all in, is so much better than half

592
00:36:43.150 --> 00:36:47.340
in or a third. Or just like a token belief

593
00:36:47.389 --> 00:36:50.219
in a little insurance policy in the back pocket. Maybe

594
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.679
I'll get forgiven and go to heaven, but I want

595
00:36:52.699 --> 00:36:54.280
to run the show and be in charge right now.

596
00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:57.239
There's no peace in that. There's no power in that.

597
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.480
There's no ability to apologize and forgive and make your

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00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:05.260
marriage strong and to show your kids that humility is

599
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the way to live, not pride. So both at the end,

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when you want Jesus to welcome you into heaven because

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you trusted him. And now let's be a hundred percent committed.

602
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Yeah.

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00:37:17.969 --> 00:37:20.449
You want, you want to hear well done, my good

604
00:37:20.489 --> 00:37:23.079
and faithful servant, right? Don't we want to all hear that?

605
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.699
I didn't want to hear the other one, you know,

606
00:37:25.940 --> 00:37:26.260
for me.

607
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.360
I didn't know you. No, we don't want to hear that.

608
00:37:29.500 --> 00:37:31.860
And we don't want anyone that we know to hear that.

609
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.179
And we need to pray that the Holy spirit opens

610
00:37:34.219 --> 00:37:35.949
people's hearts and we need to live in such a

611
00:37:35.989 --> 00:37:37.949
way and share the message.

612
00:37:39.530 --> 00:37:40.289
I think, I.

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00:37:40.210 --> 00:37:44.340
Can't remember who it was that said something along the

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00:37:44.389 --> 00:37:48.139
lines of preach the gospel everywhere and if necessary, use words.

615
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.360
Some people have used that to say, oh, you don't

616
00:37:50.380 --> 00:37:52.639
need to talk about God. Just live well.

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It's both and.

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And in the Bible, it says, share the gospel, praise God,

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tell of his glory, tell the stories of his faithfulness,

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00:38:01.409 --> 00:38:04.610
remind Israelites of what happened in the past when they

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00:38:04.630 --> 00:38:07.989
didn't remind themselves and their next generations, they rebelled and

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they had to get punished and oppressed by other nations.

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So exactly.

624
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Live the gospel and tell the gospel, which is simply

625
00:38:15.329 --> 00:38:17.889
God's grace saves us if we trust in him.

626
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Well, Jeff Kemp, we're going to go for more information

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to connect with you.

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To Jeff Kemp team. JeffKempTeam.com, and I have a lot

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and he wants us to have friends to walk through

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How are you?

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I'm doing great.

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Well, excellent. Well, are kids doing great as they get

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back to school? Or are they at that point where,

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I remember those days when, you know, it was like,

711
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.349
you know, vacation was good for about Four or six

712
00:43:13.409 --> 00:43:15.230
weeks after that, it was like, okay, I'm ready to

713
00:43:15.250 --> 00:43:20.340
get back. Get back to friends. Yeah. There's something about

714
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:24.420
the rhythm of school that calls out to you and says, okay,

715
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.420
you need to come back. Of course, facing the kids

716
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:32.460
now is the impact of artificial intelligence. which has become

717
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.940
commonplace in school settings for everything from essay outlines to

718
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.340
quick searches for science fair ideas.

719
00:43:38.019 --> 00:43:38.440
And all that.

720
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:43.469
So I'll tell you, not only do parents have to

721
00:43:43.510 --> 00:43:45.630
be on their toes, but teachers especially, right?

722
00:43:46.730 --> 00:43:47.309
Absolutely.

723
00:43:48.150 --> 00:43:52.090
Kids can, you know, kids can use AI as a

724
00:43:52.190 --> 00:43:55.349
very helpful tool. They can use it for, you know,

725
00:43:55.409 --> 00:43:57.349
if they want to use it for tutoring or if

726
00:43:57.389 --> 00:44:00.199
they're using it, you know, to help them edit an

727
00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:03.099
essay or explain a math problem to them. It can

728
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.539
be really helpful, but it can also be used for

729
00:44:06.980 --> 00:44:11.239
cheating and, you know, writing their papers for them, doing

730
00:44:11.260 --> 00:44:12.579
their research for them.

731
00:44:12.659 --> 00:44:15.280
And if they're doing that, they're not really learning anything.

732
00:44:15.300 --> 00:44:18.849
No, that's true. Now, are teachers figuring out, you know,

733
00:44:18.869 --> 00:44:21.170
because I've spoken with a couple of teachers and they're

734
00:44:21.230 --> 00:44:23.699
wising up. They can tell, you know, just based on

735
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.699
the experience with the kids and style and their age level,

736
00:44:27.139 --> 00:44:33.659
what kind of, you know, what an AI-backed document looks

737
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:36.440
like versus something that was done of their own doing,

738
00:44:36.659 --> 00:44:38.949
if that makes sense. Yes, it does.

739
00:44:39.389 --> 00:44:43.289
So a lot of teachers, probably, honestly, I think teachers

740
00:44:43.329 --> 00:44:45.929
who know their students pretty well probably can just tell, like,

741
00:44:46.250 --> 00:44:47.869
you know, especially if there's all of a sudden a

742
00:44:48.030 --> 00:44:51.429
huge jump in, you know, the quality of writing or

743
00:44:51.510 --> 00:44:55.289
something like that. That would definitely be a clue.

744
00:44:56.340 --> 00:44:59.940
But there's also, there are AI detectors. They're not foolproof.

745
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.679
If I was a teacher, I would definitely not rely

746
00:45:02.780 --> 00:45:06.360
on them. But I think that.

747
00:45:06.420 --> 00:45:08.920
There's different ways where, you know, if you suspect that

748
00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:13.550
your student is using AI, you know, have another teacher

749
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:18.130
or the school principal, just another school administrator or educator

750
00:45:18.190 --> 00:45:21.349
look at it and get their opinion. And, you know,

751
00:45:21.389 --> 00:45:24.190
I think that schools should probably standardize that to protect

752
00:45:24.349 --> 00:45:26.849
students because, you know, you don't want to throw out

753
00:45:26.869 --> 00:45:31.280
a false accusation that could... you know, that could ruin

754
00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:34.420
a lot of things for that student if they're falsely accused.

755
00:45:34.500 --> 00:45:37.099
So you definitely want to make sure that you're not

756
00:45:37.179 --> 00:45:40.460
just taking it for granted or being like, yeah, it

757
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.539
feels like AI, so I'm just going to say it is. Like,

758
00:45:42.940 --> 00:45:45.980
have the students show you their work. If you're a parent,

759
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:51.550
really start encouraging your kids. Like, it's annoying, but literally

760
00:45:51.809 --> 00:45:54.309
save a first draft of whatever you're writing. Save a

761
00:45:54.369 --> 00:45:58.099
second draft, a third draft, you know. And if If

762
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:02.110
you do use AI, make sure that it falls within

763
00:46:02.409 --> 00:46:05.110
the regulations that have been laid out by your school.

764
00:46:05.809 --> 00:46:09.590
And if your school doesn't have regulations in place, don't

765
00:46:09.730 --> 00:46:12.340
use AI unless you talk to a teacher beforehand and

766
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.599
get permission because there would be nothing worse as a student,

767
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:19.280
and this is just from my own memory, than being like, well,

768
00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:22.420
there's not technically a rule and then you go.

769
00:46:22.340 --> 00:46:22.949
Through with it.

770
00:46:23.650 --> 00:46:25.610
And then that could I mean, like there are kids

771
00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:29.670
who've gotten suspended or expelled for doing just that because

772
00:46:29.710 --> 00:46:33.190
there wasn't a rule. And you became the reason that

773
00:46:33.210 --> 00:46:36.010
there's a rule, you know, that you don't want to

774
00:46:36.030 --> 00:46:36.949
be the guinea pig.

775
00:46:37.090 --> 00:46:40.530
So, well, and, you know, you said something earlier in

776
00:46:40.570 --> 00:46:42.429
terms of the impact that would have on the student.

777
00:46:42.750 --> 00:46:45.880
But there's other students involved because they see how their

778
00:46:45.980 --> 00:46:49.420
colleague is being treated, how their fellow student is treated.

779
00:46:49.849 --> 00:46:51.690
And if they feel like, wait a minute, this is

780
00:46:52.110 --> 00:46:54.510
up for some discussion and they feel it's a bit

781
00:46:54.590 --> 00:46:58.449
unfair because, you know, hey, look at the technology affords

782
00:46:58.510 --> 00:47:01.409
this to you. If it does advance and it does

783
00:47:01.889 --> 00:47:04.929
work in your favor, then, you know, how do you

784
00:47:05.070 --> 00:47:07.030
how do you cut the baby in half here, Emily?

785
00:47:08.409 --> 00:47:11.400
Oh, that is that is the question that I think

786
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:16.360
is just plaguing so many schools and, you know, parents,

787
00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:21.030
students alike. So over the summer, there was actually a

788
00:47:22.230 --> 00:47:24.329
mock session. It was like a student congress.

789
00:47:24.349 --> 00:47:25.730
Oh, I was going to ask you about that. I

790
00:47:25.769 --> 00:47:28.309
heard about that. Go ahead. Yeah, tell our audience about this.

791
00:47:28.389 --> 00:47:29.349
I thought this was clever.

792
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.239
So over the course of a long weekend, you had

793
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:39.039
98 juniors and seniors from across the country. They met

794
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:44.079
in this mock session of student congress, and they formed

795
00:47:44.139 --> 00:47:47.849
a bill called the Student First Act, and it outlined everything.

796
00:47:48.090 --> 00:47:52.769
all sorts of different ways for students to appropriately use AI,

797
00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:58.030
for teachers and schools to regulate that appropriate use, even

798
00:47:58.090 --> 00:48:03.110
for parents and guardians to, you know, encourage a balance

799
00:48:03.309 --> 00:48:06.190
of AI use, where it's like you still need to

800
00:48:06.230 --> 00:48:10.030
get your student, you know, practice those critical thinking skills.

801
00:48:10.550 --> 00:48:13.639
So I think that as parents, Schools are trying to

802
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:18.340
come up with rules and regulations. That document is honestly

803
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:23.239
a really good resource, just kind of the Superintendents Association

804
00:48:23.340 --> 00:48:26.739
sent it to like 10,000 educators across the country already

805
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:28.840
to help them as they're.

806
00:48:28.659 --> 00:48:29.920
Forming those regulations.

807
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.840
But I think it's a good place for parents and

808
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.119
teachers to start just to kind of get an idea

809
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.559
of like, okay, what, what is the scope of AI use?

810
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.360
Like, can it be helpful in what ways?

811
00:48:42.940 --> 00:48:45.480
And how do we, how do we set a, as

812
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.679
you said, you know, where, where do we make our

813
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.650
cut in? This is the helpful side of things. This

814
00:48:50.690 --> 00:48:53.050
is the not helpful side of things. You know, where

815
00:48:53.070 --> 00:48:54.110
do we toe the line?

816
00:48:55.030 --> 00:48:56.769
I got to tell you, I'm impressed with those students

817
00:48:57.489 --> 00:49:01.530
to get together like this and have that discussion. I mean,

818
00:49:01.750 --> 00:49:03.869
maybe they're learning a lot from, you know, what's going

819
00:49:03.949 --> 00:49:07.440
on in social media with the, You know, Facebook and

820
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.179
all these other social media platforms are being sued right

821
00:49:10.219 --> 00:49:12.519
now and saying, hey, maybe we ought to be proactive

822
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.139
and get in front of this and have a say.

823
00:49:15.179 --> 00:49:17.920
I mean, we'll create a table of our own and,

824
00:49:17.929 --> 00:49:22.059
you know, kind of. force a chair out, you know,

825
00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:24.019
up underneath us so that we can be part of

826
00:49:24.059 --> 00:49:27.429
the discussion. That's a great idea. I mean, if that doesn't,

827
00:49:28.150 --> 00:49:32.230
you know, introduce you to some critical thinking, boy, you know,

828
00:49:32.429 --> 00:49:33.030
I'm impressed.

829
00:49:34.130 --> 00:49:35.849
Yeah, no, I was impressed by them too.

830
00:49:36.909 --> 00:49:39.389
And that's actually what you just said about how, you know,

831
00:49:39.510 --> 00:49:42.420
imagine what would have happened if we had gotten ahead.

832
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.119
Of the game on social media. It feels like we waited.

833
00:49:45.579 --> 00:49:46.519
And the students addressed that.

834
00:49:46.539 --> 00:49:49.159
They were like, it feels like we waited way too long,

835
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:50.960
you know, to get involved.

836
00:49:50.659 --> 00:49:51.530
With social media.

837
00:49:51.619 --> 00:49:54.570
Like, let's try to get out ahead of AI before

838
00:49:55.150 --> 00:49:57.329
it completely envelops our lives.

839
00:49:57.349 --> 00:49:57.789
Yeah.

840
00:49:58.369 --> 00:50:01.010
I think there's so many smart kids out there.

841
00:50:01.110 --> 00:50:04.440
They, they are not just, you know, they're not lazy

842
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:06.219
kids out there who are.

843
00:50:06.179 --> 00:50:08.400
Just like, eh, I just want the easiest way out.

844
00:50:08.420 --> 00:50:12.300
It's like, you'd be amazed like what kids, kids want

845
00:50:12.340 --> 00:50:15.750
to learn. I think, I think there's an instinctual part

846
00:50:15.789 --> 00:50:19.030
of us when we're young, where we do want to learn.

847
00:50:19.070 --> 00:50:21.969
We want to be treated like adults. We want to

848
00:50:22.570 --> 00:50:25.530
figure out how the world works. And I think that

849
00:50:25.699 --> 00:50:28.500
we kind of instinctively know we're not going to learn that.

850
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.039
From an AI.

851
00:50:30.139 --> 00:50:34.639
We might learn it from the adults in the room,

852
00:50:35.019 --> 00:50:38.010
giving them a seat at the table and letting them

853
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.150
express their thoughts and their concerns.

854
00:50:41.530 --> 00:50:43.730
And even just.

855
00:50:43.789 --> 00:50:45.570
Like, If I was a student, I'd be like, can

856
00:50:45.610 --> 00:50:47.869
I just show you what I.

857
00:50:47.849 --> 00:50:49.429
Can do with AI?

858
00:50:49.730 --> 00:50:51.849
Let me just show you the scope of what is

859
00:50:51.909 --> 00:50:54.809
possible because this could be great for me and my

860
00:50:54.849 --> 00:50:56.190
fellow students.

861
00:50:56.909 --> 00:50:58.289
Well, and I think that this is one of the

862
00:50:58.329 --> 00:51:01.010
things that's being missed a little bit here. And that

863
00:51:01.130 --> 00:51:05.179
is that, as you say, the kids have an eagerness

864
00:51:05.260 --> 00:51:08.579
to learn and they want to perform at a higher level.

865
00:51:08.739 --> 00:51:11.659
If a tool comes in and gives them a higher

866
00:51:12.059 --> 00:51:16.210
launching pad, so to speak, That's to their advantage. And

867
00:51:16.389 --> 00:51:18.269
I think that what will happen is we're going to

868
00:51:18.289 --> 00:51:20.949
have to study this maybe, you know, three, five years

869
00:51:20.989 --> 00:51:24.170
down the road to see, in fact, are these kids

870
00:51:24.409 --> 00:51:28.840
leveraging this tool in such a way that their output

871
00:51:28.969 --> 00:51:32.019
is so much more improved and not just so, oh,

872
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:35.760
you know, that you're cheating. No, it's that it's the

873
00:51:35.820 --> 00:51:39.480
level of conversation now is at a higher level. Their

874
00:51:39.539 --> 00:51:45.550
thinking is a little bit more advanced because AI has

875
00:51:45.630 --> 00:51:48.630
helped them get to that higher level to launch off.

876
00:51:48.650 --> 00:51:49.289
Does that make sense?

877
00:51:50.250 --> 00:51:50.650
It does.

878
00:51:50.670 --> 00:51:53.769
Yeah, no, it's like you want to make sure, and

879
00:51:53.789 --> 00:51:56.559
I think that because of that reason, everything you just described,

880
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.559
I think it does come down to we can't pretend

881
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:00.860
like AI doesn't exist.

882
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:03.039
This is a part of their world. It is.

883
00:52:04.530 --> 00:52:06.719
To a certain degree, it is kind of on the

884
00:52:06.780 --> 00:52:07.400
adults in.

885
00:52:07.340 --> 00:52:11.639
The room to learn how AI can be leveraged for

886
00:52:11.739 --> 00:52:13.280
good rather than.

887
00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:14.110
Just for cheating.

888
00:52:14.150 --> 00:52:15.909
The fear is that kids are going to use it

889
00:52:15.929 --> 00:52:19.750
for cheating, but that's not the limitation of what they

890
00:52:19.769 --> 00:52:23.389
can use it for. And so I think that AI use,

891
00:52:23.699 --> 00:52:26.440
I don't know exactly what the appropriate age is to

892
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.539
start teaching AI use. It's probably closer to middle school

893
00:52:29.860 --> 00:52:31.599
so that by the time they get to high school,

894
00:52:31.659 --> 00:52:35.199
they're proficient in a appropriate AI use.

895
00:52:36.380 --> 00:52:40.039
They're already appropriate in elementary school. Are you kidding me?

896
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.010
They have chewed this up. I mean, this is incredible.

897
00:52:43.369 --> 00:52:45.809
I think the message that needs to be stressed here

898
00:52:45.849 --> 00:52:48.349
is look at what we're preparing you is for life.

899
00:52:48.369 --> 00:52:51.929
All right. Now, you might be able to cheat your

900
00:52:51.989 --> 00:52:54.849
way through school, but when life hits you in the

901
00:52:54.909 --> 00:52:59.730
face and you're ill-prepared, don't blame us. Blame yourself because

902
00:52:59.769 --> 00:53:02.820
you cheated the system. And because you cheated the system,

903
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:06.219
guess what? You lack the tools on when you go

904
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:10.099
and get a job, you lack the tools and development

905
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:13.219
in order to be successful at your job. And so

906
00:53:13.420 --> 00:53:15.420
you're going to end up paying the price. So what

907
00:53:15.460 --> 00:53:19.380
we're trying to do is help you understand be more

908
00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:21.480
successful out there in the world.

909
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.639
I agree 100% with what you just said.

910
00:53:25.699 --> 00:53:26.760
It's like the.

911
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.400
Only person you're hurting, the only person you're cheating when

912
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.639
you cheat is yourself. You cheat yourself out of the

913
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:36.650
experience to learn and to figure things out on your own,

914
00:53:36.769 --> 00:53:41.690
critical thinking, social development. There's so many things. Now, you

915
00:53:41.730 --> 00:53:46.010
can develop an over-reliance on AI. And I do think

916
00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:50.219
that that's maybe somewhere where... educators and parents have to

917
00:53:50.300 --> 00:53:54.260
intervene is the over-reliance factor because kids, if.

918
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:55.980
You get a hold of a new technology, like we

919
00:53:56.019 --> 00:53:58.349
can't help ourselves when we're kids. We just want to,

920
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:00.159
it's like, oh, it's this new toy.

921
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:03.909
We just like become zombies and just do nothing but

922
00:54:03.969 --> 00:54:05.809
stare at our screens all day. So it's like, it

923
00:54:05.849 --> 00:54:08.849
does come down to parents and guardians to set up,

924
00:54:09.230 --> 00:54:14.860
you know, boundaries regarding the over-reliance factor. But in terms of,

925
00:54:15.530 --> 00:54:20.599
being able to use AI as this incredible tool I

926
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.719
honestly think if you talk to your kids and you're just.

927
00:54:23.619 --> 00:54:26.940
Like, show me what you're learning, show me what.

928
00:54:26.900 --> 00:54:30.139
AI can do, you will be amazed at all the

929
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:31.760
different things it can do. If you get to a

930
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.510
point where you're like, where they're showing you things, you're like,

931
00:54:34.590 --> 00:54:35.789
that makes me uncomfortable.

932
00:54:36.050 --> 00:54:36.469
Okay.

933
00:54:36.730 --> 00:54:40.170
That's where you either have a conversation or set some boundaries,

934
00:54:40.329 --> 00:54:44.150
probably both. You know, it's not like you lose all

935
00:54:44.210 --> 00:54:49.269
control because this AI is, you know, Talking to your kids.

936
00:54:49.349 --> 00:54:52.179
It's like, no, you're still the parent. You can still

937
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.599
set up safe, healthy boundaries.

938
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:57.059
For your kids. But you do need to know how your.

939
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.730
Child is using AI in order to set up those boundaries.

940
00:54:59.969 --> 00:55:01.590
No, you're exactly right. This is going to be a

941
00:55:01.630 --> 00:55:05.489
parent-student joint effort. that there has to be that conversation

942
00:55:05.530 --> 00:55:08.550
because I think the benefit for parents is get ready

943
00:55:08.590 --> 00:55:11.820
for parents to learn and adapt to AI as well.

944
00:55:12.460 --> 00:55:15.280
I mean, as if they're not already, because AI has

945
00:55:15.340 --> 00:55:18.739
crept into every part of our lives ever so subtly.

946
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:23.039
And it's amazing, even myself in what I'm doing, I'm

947
00:55:23.110 --> 00:55:27.030
surprised how often that I am leaning into it when

948
00:55:27.190 --> 00:55:29.170
I thought, oh, well, it's just out there. I didn't

949
00:55:29.210 --> 00:55:32.869
quite understand what was going on, but it's really taken

950
00:55:32.929 --> 00:55:36.440
over some areas. And I've benefited largely from it. But

951
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.059
I'm excited. I got to tell you, I'm excited to

952
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.739
see what these kids five years down the road, what

953
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:45.409
it's going to look like. And yes, with some trepidation

954
00:55:45.550 --> 00:55:48.409
and concern and guardrails that need to be there and

955
00:55:48.570 --> 00:55:52.130
open conversation all the way around with the parents, the teachers,

956
00:55:52.190 --> 00:55:54.510
the students all getting involved to say, hey, look at

957
00:55:54.550 --> 00:55:57.130
this is a powerful tool. How can we make sure

958
00:55:57.489 --> 00:55:58.389
that it's for good?

959
00:55:58.469 --> 00:55:58.670
Right.

960
00:55:59.579 --> 00:55:59.760
Yeah.

961
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.590
How can we keep the kids safe?

962
00:56:02.570 --> 00:56:04.090
You know, I know one of the things that parents

963
00:56:04.150 --> 00:56:08.349
are really scared about too, and rightly so, is when

964
00:56:08.369 --> 00:56:11.000
your child is talking to a chat bot, when they

965
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:13.980
start having like an emotional connection with that chat bot.

966
00:56:14.059 --> 00:56:16.219
And I know that that's a big fear that was

967
00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:19.119
actually something that student that student congress brought up as

968
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:22.389
well as they were like when do we when should

969
00:56:22.650 --> 00:56:26.170
um an ai alert a trusted adult you know where

970
00:56:26.230 --> 00:56:29.150
does how does that get worked into the system especially

971
00:56:29.210 --> 00:56:32.409
if the ai chatbot is being provided uh by the

972
00:56:32.469 --> 00:56:36.179
school to the students you know and so those are

973
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.440
others those are some other questions you got to talk

974
00:56:38.460 --> 00:56:41.099
to your kids about and i think it's just an

975
00:56:41.260 --> 00:56:45.420
ongoing conversation and reminder that you know AI is this

976
00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:48.820
great tool, but it is, at the end of the day,

977
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:49.519
it's a tool.

978
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:51.179
It's not a person.

979
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:55.369
It is an object, not a human being with a

980
00:56:55.429 --> 00:56:59.409
soul who loves you and cares about you and cares.

981
00:56:59.030 --> 00:57:00.050
That you have a future.

982
00:57:00.409 --> 00:57:03.409
The AI does not care if you use it for

983
00:57:03.670 --> 00:57:05.730
everything under the sun for the rest of your life.

984
00:57:05.789 --> 00:57:11.210
That's actually probably its pre-programmed goal is to get you

985
00:57:11.289 --> 00:57:12.070
to use it more.

986
00:57:12.090 --> 00:57:12.170
Yeah.

987
00:57:13.349 --> 00:57:15.230
That's why we have to, you know, we do have

988
00:57:15.250 --> 00:57:17.840
to regulate it. We have to say, okay, this is

989
00:57:17.889 --> 00:57:20.840
the limitation of what we're going to do because we

990
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.880
don't want to become these little screen zombies.

991
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:28.579
Exactly. AI is not your God, ladies and gentlemen. She's

992
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.519
plugged in content editor. Emily Chow has been with us. Emily,

993
00:57:31.539 --> 00:57:33.739
thank you. We got to keep this conversation going. This

994
00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:36.300
is going to be fascinating to see how this evolves.

995
00:57:38.010 --> 00:57:41.739
Yes, I agree. It is just, it's going to continue developing.

996
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:43.079
I feel like I've said.

997
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:47.469
So much about it already written so much about it already.

998
00:57:47.769 --> 00:57:51.610
And, you know, keep your eye on the news.

999
00:57:51.690 --> 00:57:53.610
Like more stories are going to come up and when

1000
00:57:53.630 --> 00:57:56.489
they come up, you know, don't be afraid to.

1001
00:57:56.349 --> 00:57:57.739
Just talk about it.

1002
00:57:57.860 --> 00:58:00.400
You know, it might be something where your kids are

1003
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:04.039
aware of what's happening and they're like, I have an opinion.

1004
00:58:04.059 --> 00:58:07.320
It might be something where they're like, mom, dad, Like,

1005
00:58:07.530 --> 00:58:08.500
that's not even a thing.

1006
00:58:08.539 --> 00:58:09.659
Why are you worried about this?

1007
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:12.820
You might get a little bit of teenage attitude.

1008
00:58:13.179 --> 00:58:14.480
And, you know, that's there.

1009
00:58:15.340 --> 00:58:19.190
And you get that for free. That comes with no charge. Emily,

1010
00:58:19.210 --> 00:58:20.929
where can they go for more information and stay on

1011
00:58:20.969 --> 00:58:22.170
top of this important topic?

1012
00:58:23.989 --> 00:58:27.610
If you go to pluggedin.com, we have our blog. We

1013
00:58:27.670 --> 00:58:31.889
also have a tab on our homepage just for technology.

1014
00:58:33.190 --> 00:58:37.510
Every week we'll be posting new stuff there. It's not

1015
00:58:37.550 --> 00:58:40.070
always going to be AI related, but you will see

1016
00:58:40.110 --> 00:58:43.550
a lot of our AI articles in those two places.

1017
00:58:44.510 --> 00:58:47.179
You can also go to our YouTube channel. Occasionally we'll

1018
00:58:47.260 --> 00:58:52.380
have conversations about AI there. But yeah, PluggedIn.com is the

1019
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.360
place to go. We do our best to just keep

1020
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:56.960
up to date on all of that stuff.

1021
00:58:57.019 --> 00:58:58.920
Well, keep up the great work, Emily Chao. Thank you

1022
00:58:58.940 --> 00:59:00.739
so much for being with us. Take care. God bless.

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00:59:00.969 --> 00:59:01.309
You too.

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Bill Martinez live. Good morning.

1047
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Welcome.

1048
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Six minutes after the top of the hour. Bill Martin

1049
01:00:20.090 --> 01:00:22.789
is here and we've got Todd Starnes joining us. He's

1050
01:00:22.809 --> 01:00:26.659
the American conservative columnist, commentator, writer and radio host. Todd,

1051
01:00:26.699 --> 01:00:27.559
good morning to you.

1052
01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:30.699
Well, good morning. Great to be with you, Bill. Thank

1053
01:00:30.739 --> 01:00:31.760
you for the invitation.

1054
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:35.719
Well, looking forward to this. Congratulations on the book, The

1055
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:40.750
Golden Age, How Trump Saved America. This idea of a

1056
01:00:40.769 --> 01:00:44.530
golden age really encapsulates America. the vision that he's cast

1057
01:00:44.570 --> 01:00:47.690
for America. And this is what good leaders do, is

1058
01:00:47.730 --> 01:00:49.070
they cast a vision, don't they?

1059
01:00:50.050 --> 01:00:52.730
Well, I think they do, but it's not just casting

1060
01:00:52.769 --> 01:00:56.329
a vision, it's delivering on campaign promises. And that's really

1061
01:00:56.389 --> 01:00:59.869
why I wrote The Golden Age. There were a good

1062
01:00:59.889 --> 01:01:03.010
many folks in the conservative media world that have been saying, well,

1063
01:01:03.630 --> 01:01:06.869
this hasn't been a very successful term for President Trump.

1064
01:01:07.269 --> 01:01:10.969
So I thought, well, that's ludicrous. So I just did

1065
01:01:11.050 --> 01:01:14.320
some old school journalism, went back, looked at the promises

1066
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:17.539
to see whether or not he had delivered. Bill, I'm

1067
01:01:17.579 --> 01:01:22.260
looking at at least 70% promises made, promises kept. And

1068
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.400
to me, that is pretty darn phenomenal. And that really

1069
01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:29.619
was the foundation for writing The Golden Age, a celebration

1070
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.440
of what Trump has done, but also a reminder that

1071
01:01:32.579 --> 01:01:36.760
all of us bear responsibility for carrying on the America

1072
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:37.699
First agenda.

1073
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:40.920
Exactly, because this is still a government up for by

1074
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:41.960
we the people, is it not?

1075
01:01:43.059 --> 01:01:43.679
Well, it is.

1076
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.929
The last time I checked my constitution, it was.

1077
01:01:47.409 --> 01:01:47.989
Absolutely.

1078
01:01:48.590 --> 01:01:52.530
And again, you know, there's just so much that this

1079
01:01:52.590 --> 01:01:56.719
president has done restoring common sense back to America. He

1080
01:01:56.780 --> 01:02:01.489
saved our schools and our military. He secured our borders.

1081
01:02:01.780 --> 01:02:05.909
These are things that the American people want to have happen,

1082
01:02:05.989 --> 01:02:08.010
and the president's delivered on those promises.

1083
01:02:08.530 --> 01:02:11.269
You know, Todd, one of the things that I'm frustrated over,

1084
01:02:11.289 --> 01:02:14.369
and maybe you feel the same way, between the media

1085
01:02:14.409 --> 01:02:17.050
and the DSA, the way they talk about Trump, they

1086
01:02:17.090 --> 01:02:20.329
forget what he inherited. It wasn't like it was, you know,

1087
01:02:20.349 --> 01:02:22.659
you started at the starting line, a fresh starting line.

1088
01:02:23.050 --> 01:02:25.219
You had to carry all the luggage that was left

1089
01:02:25.260 --> 01:02:28.980
behind because of Democratic policies and all that Joe Biden did.

1090
01:02:29.340 --> 01:02:31.519
to really damage our country, whether it had to do

1091
01:02:31.539 --> 01:02:34.699
with the borders or national security or fraud for that matter?

1092
01:02:35.769 --> 01:02:38.010
I think you have to go back really beyond the

1093
01:02:38.050 --> 01:02:41.170
Biden administration, which was a very dark and dangerous time

1094
01:02:41.190 --> 01:02:45.389
in our country. Biden was just not there. We have

1095
01:02:45.429 --> 01:02:49.380
a phrase in Tennessee where I'm from, the cheese slid

1096
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:53.420
off his cracker a long time ago. And that turned

1097
01:02:53.460 --> 01:02:57.019
out to be dangerous because so many radical leftists were

1098
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:01.030
employed by the administration in very key positions. But you

1099
01:03:01.070 --> 01:03:03.269
have to go all the way back to Barack Hussein Obama.

1100
01:03:03.699 --> 01:03:08.019
and this promise to fundamentally transform America. And that was

1101
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:13.639
a long-lasting thing that happened within the bureaucracy of the government.

1102
01:03:13.659 --> 01:03:16.460
We call it the deep state. And that went on

1103
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.840
unchecked even during the first Trump term in office. So

1104
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:25.099
this president had a lot to fix because there was

1105
01:03:25.139 --> 01:03:26.980
a lot that was broken in this country.

1106
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.119
Well, are we going to find out that Barack Obama

1107
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:35.300
actually had a third term as a somewhat silent partner,

1108
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.460
so to speak, you know, hidden by the deemed state

1109
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:41.519
and the bureaucracy of the administrative state of Washington, D.C.,

1110
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:45.449
because he remained, as we know, he remained in D.C.

1111
01:03:45.659 --> 01:03:48.199
I think the only past president ever in our history

1112
01:03:48.510 --> 01:03:52.489
to stay in Washington, or nearby, anyway. Well, he was.

1113
01:03:52.550 --> 01:03:54.889
He was the only president in at least modern political

1114
01:03:54.949 --> 01:03:59.230
history who actually stayed behind in Washington. I think you're

1115
01:03:59.289 --> 01:04:03.420
onto something there, And I would be very alarmed if

1116
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:09.150
a Democrat wins a presidency in 2028 or beyond, because

1117
01:04:09.190 --> 01:04:13.769
I think Obama would have his thumb on that individual. Look,

1118
01:04:14.090 --> 01:04:17.110
we're dealing with two major threats to the republic right now,

1119
01:04:17.510 --> 01:04:20.590
the rise of Islam and the rise of communism. Both

1120
01:04:20.650 --> 01:04:23.590
are very dangerous, and they're working hand in hand right now.

1121
01:04:24.190 --> 01:04:26.289
But at the end of the day, one will rule

1122
01:04:26.389 --> 01:04:28.639
over the other. And I would have my money on

1123
01:04:28.659 --> 01:04:33.619
the Islamists. God forbid that happens, which is why, again,

1124
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:37.599
I write in the book, and it's really an encouraging book,

1125
01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:42.519
but there are warnings that we have dangers lurking in

1126
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.510
the very near future in this country.

1127
01:04:44.809 --> 01:04:47.710
Well, Todd, the question I get is, is God judging us?

1128
01:04:48.269 --> 01:04:50.329
And I say, well, it's interesting that you ask that question.

1129
01:04:50.690 --> 01:04:53.679
Why do you ask that question? Because when you look at,

1130
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:56.349
let's just say from 9-11 going forward, I mean, we

1131
01:04:56.389 --> 01:04:59.190
could go back even before 9-11, and we started to

1132
01:04:59.269 --> 01:05:02.329
see the fruit from the tree here, where there were,

1133
01:05:02.829 --> 01:05:05.949
you know, judgments, you could say judgments, catastrophes that were

1134
01:05:05.989 --> 01:05:10.369
happening to America that would cause people of a spiritual

1135
01:05:10.510 --> 01:05:12.030
awareness to pause.

1136
01:05:14.369 --> 01:05:18.079
I don't know about that. I'm a deeply Christian man.

1137
01:05:18.099 --> 01:05:22.250
I believe that that that God may not necessarily be

1138
01:05:22.309 --> 01:05:26.010
punishing us. We're just getting what we asked for. I

1139
01:05:26.070 --> 01:05:29.869
believe that God has certainly blessed our land. He's also

1140
01:05:29.929 --> 01:05:32.909
given us free will, and we've been making a lot

1141
01:05:32.949 --> 01:05:37.119
of bad decisions. Remember what John Adams said, our second president,

1142
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.579
our nation wholly inadequate for anyone other than a moral

1143
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.699
and religious people talking about our founding documents. And so

1144
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.440
when you take God out of the equation, I think

1145
01:05:46.460 --> 01:05:49.280
you get chaos in the culture. And Bill, we've got

1146
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.860
chaos in the culture right now. And I think there

1147
01:05:52.010 --> 01:05:56.969
is a responsibility that Christians specifically have, and I write

1148
01:05:57.010 --> 01:06:00.110
about this in The Golden Age, they've got a responsibility

1149
01:06:00.409 --> 01:06:03.929
to engage the culture and be involved in the political process.

1150
01:06:04.329 --> 01:06:10.070
And far too many of our evangelical churches have now disengaged. Meanwhile,

1151
01:06:10.130 --> 01:06:13.829
you have a large swath of these Christians that are

1152
01:06:13.929 --> 01:06:18.409
out there, and they're really power hungry. They're grifters. They

1153
01:06:18.449 --> 01:06:21.250
want access to Mar-a-Lago. They want to be able to

1154
01:06:21.309 --> 01:06:24.199
claim credit for holding a church service in the Oval Office.

1155
01:06:25.530 --> 01:06:27.599
I think the American people see through a lot of

1156
01:06:27.619 --> 01:06:29.079
that stuff, if you know what I mean.

1157
01:06:29.539 --> 01:06:33.320
No, I know exactly what you're saying, and it is

1158
01:06:33.420 --> 01:06:36.900
quite obvious. But let's talk about the church. The church,

1159
01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:40.900
you know, Jesus formed the church to be the salt

1160
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.769
and light. And here in America, as you know, only

1161
01:06:43.769 --> 01:06:47.659
50% of evangelicals will bother to register to vote. And

1162
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:50.920
of that 50, only 50 will actually vote. It's no

1163
01:06:50.980 --> 01:06:53.880
wonder we're going to hell in a handbasket here, so

1164
01:06:53.900 --> 01:06:54.239
to speak.

1165
01:06:54.699 --> 01:06:57.119
Yeah, look, I place the blame on what's happening directly

1166
01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:01.530
on the Christians, because again, we know better. I'll give

1167
01:07:01.550 --> 01:07:04.789
you an example. Here in Memphis, Tennessee, the danger we're

1168
01:07:04.809 --> 01:07:09.780
dealing with, we're a blue city. And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez came

1169
01:07:09.820 --> 01:07:11.460
to town a couple of weeks ago to campaign for

1170
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:15.320
one of these DSA congressional candidates. They held the rally

1171
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.619
in a black megachurch. Over a thousand people turned out,

1172
01:07:18.699 --> 01:07:22.349
wall-to-wall people. The pastor of that church, which claims to

1173
01:07:22.369 --> 01:07:26.230
be evangelical, the pastor rose up and from the pulpit said,

1174
01:07:26.710 --> 01:07:30.710
Jesus was a socialist, therefore you should be socialist. And

1175
01:07:30.730 --> 01:07:35.730
the crowd roared with applause. So on election day... You

1176
01:07:35.750 --> 01:07:40.090
better believe every black church, every progressive church in Memphis

1177
01:07:40.150 --> 01:07:44.489
was mobilized, driving buses to the polls. Democrats won in

1178
01:07:44.530 --> 01:07:47.820
a landslide all of their primary races. But you know

1179
01:07:47.860 --> 01:07:51.920
who wasn't involved? All of those predominantly white evangelical churches

1180
01:07:51.940 --> 01:07:56.099
in the suburbs. They say, oh, we don't do politics

1181
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:58.860
in our church. Well, you get what you vote for.

1182
01:07:59.300 --> 01:07:59.800
Exactly.

1183
01:07:59.980 --> 01:08:02.679
And you just got your hat handed to you. And

1184
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:05.039
the thing that still amazes me, because when you look

1185
01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:08.619
back historically, the Democratic Party, you know, set the DSA

1186
01:08:08.699 --> 01:08:11.500
aside for just a moment. But the Democratic Party, the

1187
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:14.199
ones that gave us the Ku Klux Klan. And, of course,

1188
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.539
we're seeing that that relationship continues with what happened with

1189
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:21.960
the Southern Poverty Law Center. OK, but it is the

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Democratic Party that really birthed Planned Parenthood, that is responsible

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for killing 40 percent of black babies.

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That's right.

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And blacks are still going to vote. For Democrats, what

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are you thinking? I mean, some are rising up and saying,

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you know, and asking the same question of their own people,

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but it's still not connecting with them yet, Todd.

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No, it's not.

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You know, Bill, we also have a lot of fun

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in this book. I grew up reading Louis Grisard and

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Irma Bombeck and even liberal humorists like Art Buchwald, which

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is really old school. Anybody remember Art Buchwald or Molly Ivins?

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And even though I didn't agree with some of them politically,

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I just thought they write in a funny way. So

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I try to infuse some humor. And unfortunately, one of

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my parody chapters came to life. We were doing a

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book signing. at a Barnes & Noble, and we had

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a mob of these morbidly obese white woke women that

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stormed the Barnes & Noble, and they staged a protest

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in the middle of my book signing. And I actually

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have a chapter in the book. I call them gals

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of girth, the GOGs. And in the book, I try

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to become a life coach Helping these women so they

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can find fulfillment in life by getting a husband. And apparently,

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I guess that chapter somehow triggered them, Bill Martinez. I

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don't know why they were triggered, but there you go.

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Well, that kind of talk triggered the assassination of one

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We're talking to Todd Starnes, American conservative columnist, commentator, writer,

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his new book, The Golden Age, How Trump Saved America.

1295
01:14:30.310 --> 01:14:34.060
I heard it was a lot of fun interviewing Donald Trump.

1296
01:14:34.939 --> 01:14:37.979
You know, it has been, and I've been honored to

1297
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:41.460
interview him about a dozen times over the years. And

1298
01:14:41.939 --> 01:14:43.920
It's always fun. I tell people it's like being in

1299
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.479
the Daytona 500, except you're on the hood of the

1300
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:50.130
car just holding on for dear life. But the man

1301
01:14:50.310 --> 01:14:53.789
is really, he's a funny guy. And he also is

1302
01:14:53.850 --> 01:14:56.390
a multitasker. He can do a lot of different things

1303
01:14:56.470 --> 01:15:00.819
at one time. And I think people are going to

1304
01:15:00.859 --> 01:15:04.479
come across with a different take on the president when

1305
01:15:04.500 --> 01:15:07.260
they read The Golden Age. Because he really is this

1306
01:15:07.380 --> 01:15:10.600
blue collar billionaire, a guy who's got more money than

1307
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:13.100
you and I put together, Bill. But he loves enjoying

1308
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:15.039
a good old Big Mac down at the McDonald's.

1309
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:17.920
Right. And he loves this country and loves the people

1310
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:20.550
the way he's been he's been fighting for us. How

1311
01:15:20.590 --> 01:15:22.850
many questions? I'm just curious. How many questions did you

1312
01:15:22.890 --> 01:15:26.090
get a chance to ask him? Because whenever I see him, sometimes,

1313
01:15:26.109 --> 01:15:28.029
you know, you ask one question and just put on

1314
01:15:28.050 --> 01:15:29.930
your seatbelt and your crash helmet because he's got it

1315
01:15:29.989 --> 01:15:30.390
from there.

1316
01:15:30.449 --> 01:15:34.020
Right. So the first time I interviewed him, I got

1317
01:15:34.229 --> 01:15:37.210
a half a question in, one half of a question.

1318
01:15:38.029 --> 01:15:41.210
But then later on, you kind of get a little bold,

1319
01:15:41.229 --> 01:15:43.329
so you can kind of interrupt. You don't want to

1320
01:15:43.350 --> 01:15:44.289
interrupt the President of.

1321
01:15:44.289 --> 01:15:44.989
The United States.

1322
01:15:45.590 --> 01:15:49.460
But he sort of eases up. One time, I guess

1323
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:52.060
he was in a mood because he only gave short answers,

1324
01:15:52.100 --> 01:15:54.220
and it really shocked me because I only had two

1325
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:55.159
questions written down.

1326
01:15:55.180 --> 01:15:56.659
Yeah, exactly.

1327
01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:57.180
Exactly.

1328
01:15:57.659 --> 01:16:00.029
Yeah, look, you've trained me to come in with a

1329
01:16:00.109 --> 01:16:02.350
short list and then you give me short answers. That's

1330
01:16:02.369 --> 01:16:02.850
not fair.

1331
01:16:03.250 --> 01:16:04.250
You're killing me, Mr.

1332
01:16:04.310 --> 01:16:04.810
President.

1333
01:16:06.189 --> 01:16:09.640
Well, speaking of which, the faith of Donald Trump.

1334
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:10.359
Yeah.

1335
01:16:10.420 --> 01:16:14.020
I mean, people are a bit confused, but man, I'll

1336
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:16.960
tell you, his actions tell you that he loves God,

1337
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:21.329
loves Jesus. He may not have a full comprehension of

1338
01:16:21.970 --> 01:16:25.590
and hold of the gospel message because he still thinks

1339
01:16:25.630 --> 01:16:27.810
he needs to do something to earn his way to heaven.

1340
01:16:28.890 --> 01:16:30.989
That's only my, if I had a moment with him,

1341
01:16:31.350 --> 01:16:34.779
I'd say, Mr. President, you know, you profess Jesus as

1342
01:16:34.819 --> 01:16:39.159
your Lord and Savior. That's it. You know, go ahead.

1343
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:42.220
Yeah, I've asked that question of him privately, and I'm

1344
01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:46.890
going to keep that conversation private because that's an issue,

1345
01:16:47.020 --> 01:16:49.960
you know, Where we spend eternity, that's an issue that

1346
01:16:50.180 --> 01:16:53.119
far transcends politics or anything else in life. And I

1347
01:16:53.140 --> 01:16:56.960
think those are deeply personal and important moments. And I

1348
01:16:57.020 --> 01:16:59.680
do know that this president has surrounded himself with good,

1349
01:16:59.739 --> 01:17:03.640
godly men like Dr. Robert Jeffress and Pastor Jack Graham

1350
01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:07.470
and others. And that encourages me. One of the things

1351
01:17:08.229 --> 01:17:11.529
that comes across in the book, when you don't listen

1352
01:17:11.590 --> 01:17:14.630
to the speeches, but read his speeches, when he does

1353
01:17:14.689 --> 01:17:18.149
talk about matters of faith, And this man does have

1354
01:17:18.250 --> 01:17:22.489
a comprehensive understanding of the importance of religion and the

1355
01:17:22.550 --> 01:17:27.569
American experience. And that, to me, is incredibly encouraging. And

1356
01:17:27.630 --> 01:17:30.010
I pray for my president. I hope everybody prays for

1357
01:17:30.090 --> 01:17:32.930
our president and the first family. But this is a

1358
01:17:32.930 --> 01:17:36.029
man who understands, and he actually said this, to make

1359
01:17:36.069 --> 01:17:39.569
America great again, America has to pray again. Those are

1360
01:17:39.590 --> 01:17:40.569
the words of Donald J.

1361
01:17:40.630 --> 01:17:40.890
Trump.

1362
01:17:41.510 --> 01:17:41.890
Exactly.

1363
01:17:42.689 --> 01:17:43.149
Charlie Kirk.

1364
01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:44.439
Yeah.

1365
01:17:44.659 --> 01:17:46.939
Let's talk about the impact that this young man had

1366
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:48.140
in such a short period of time.

1367
01:17:48.779 --> 01:17:51.739
So, Bill, I was really struggling with how to write

1368
01:17:51.779 --> 01:17:55.619
about that in the golden age. And it actually happened

1369
01:17:56.060 --> 01:17:58.909
live during my national radio show. We broadcast noon to

1370
01:17:58.930 --> 01:18:02.869
three Eastern. I was interviewing Senator James Lankford from Oklahoma

1371
01:18:02.909 --> 01:18:06.029
when the first bulletin came in that something had happened.

1372
01:18:06.789 --> 01:18:09.649
And we took the story live on air. And so

1373
01:18:09.710 --> 01:18:13.270
what we did was we pulled the transcripts from that moment.

1374
01:18:13.810 --> 01:18:18.260
And we actually built a chapter around that. The following day,

1375
01:18:18.270 --> 01:18:21.260
I had a chance to have Dr. Jack Hibbs from

1376
01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:25.100
Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills, who was a mentor. He was

1377
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:29.720
discipling Charlie. And so we include a lot of that

1378
01:18:30.060 --> 01:18:33.399
in the book and talk about the aftermath of all

1379
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:35.739
of that and the impact I believe it's going to

1380
01:18:35.779 --> 01:18:36.600
have on the country.

1381
01:18:36.619 --> 01:18:40.560
Yeah, without a doubt, there was the question, who was

1382
01:18:40.619 --> 01:18:43.909
going to replace Charlie? And the answer came very quick.

1383
01:18:44.060 --> 01:18:46.539
Lots of Charlie Kirks. And this is what we're seeing, right?

1384
01:18:46.899 --> 01:18:47.989
I mean, he is.

1385
01:18:49.989 --> 01:18:53.270
You know, you could say a once in a generation

1386
01:18:54.029 --> 01:18:55.970
figure that impact a generation.

1387
01:18:56.510 --> 01:18:58.899
Yeah, I think, you know, one of the challenges we

1388
01:18:58.939 --> 01:19:01.060
have in the conservative movement is that we have a

1389
01:19:01.100 --> 01:19:04.180
lot of grifters in our midst now, people who are

1390
01:19:04.220 --> 01:19:07.720
not truly authentic. They're either paid to be a conservative

1391
01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:11.529
or They're trying to scam conservatives and especially within the

1392
01:19:11.550 --> 01:19:15.390
Christian community. And that really alarms me. So I think

1393
01:19:15.770 --> 01:19:19.909
you have to discern who the real folks are out there,

1394
01:19:20.010 --> 01:19:23.689
you know, talking about these issues and really encouraging people

1395
01:19:23.729 --> 01:19:26.989
to do their homework before they decide to align with

1396
01:19:27.029 --> 01:19:31.489
somebody or support somebody's ministry or this or that. That's

1397
01:19:31.510 --> 01:19:33.619
just something that we have to do our homework on.

1398
01:19:34.899 --> 01:19:37.119
Two points there in what you just brought out, because

1399
01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:39.399
this is something we bring out repeatedly in our show.

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01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:42.979
Number one, own your own knowledge. Just because somebody told

1401
01:19:43.020 --> 01:19:46.340
you something doesn't mean, in fact, that is true. You

1402
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:50.020
need to, as you say, exercise some discernment, some critical thinking,

1403
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.520
something that has been lacking in our society for a

1404
01:19:52.550 --> 01:19:55.789
long time. And we're paying the price for that. And

1405
01:19:55.829 --> 01:20:00.909
so in addition to owning your own knowledge, it's important

1406
01:20:01.310 --> 01:20:06.170
that you do take self-responsibility seriously. That is critical when

1407
01:20:06.210 --> 01:20:09.670
it comes to the truth. And we've abandoned the truth

1408
01:20:09.710 --> 01:20:12.770
for a number of decades. And ever since that idea of,

1409
01:20:12.989 --> 01:20:15.090
you know, it's your truth, my truth, it's all relative.

1410
01:20:15.449 --> 01:20:19.960
My goodness, I mean, that is a direct, you know,

1411
01:20:20.500 --> 01:20:23.500
decision and free choice to make to say, you know,

1412
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:24.859
I'm not going to have anything to do with God

1413
01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:25.779
because God is truth.

1414
01:20:27.310 --> 01:20:30.390
Yeah, look, I think that's a great way to look

1415
01:20:30.470 --> 01:20:33.890
at it, Bill. And again, it's just a weird time

1416
01:20:34.050 --> 01:20:38.369
in the country right now with the onslaught of AI

1417
01:20:38.430 --> 01:20:42.510
and you've got the social media platforms. So there's a

1418
01:20:42.670 --> 01:20:44.720
lot of ways to get the truth, but there's also

1419
01:20:44.810 --> 01:20:48.300
a lot of deception out there as well, which is

1420
01:20:48.340 --> 01:20:52.560
why we encourage people on our website, toddsterns.com. We still

1421
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do old school journalism there and bringing people the stories

1422
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that that are not being covered by the mainstream media.

1423
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You know, we've been doing this a very long time,

1424
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and Lord willing, we're going to keep doing it for

1425
01:21:03.180 --> 01:21:06.810
a very long time. But that's really my calling here.

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01:21:07.449 --> 01:21:10.130
And I think people, and you've experienced this as well,

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01:21:10.470 --> 01:21:13.310
you know, people appreciate your point of view because your

1428
01:21:13.350 --> 01:21:16.340
opinions have not changed. What you believed, you know, 10,

1429
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:19.670
20 years ago, you still believe today, regardless of who's.

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01:21:19.510 --> 01:21:20.250
In the White House.

1431
01:21:20.770 --> 01:21:24.609
Exactly. Well, here we are, as I mentioned earlier, the media, left,

1432
01:21:24.649 --> 01:21:28.750
especially DSA, keep telling us repeatedly Trump is bad. So

1433
01:21:28.909 --> 01:21:31.520
help me out. What am I missing here? Since taking office,

1434
01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.539
as promised, as you said, Trump secured our border. He's

1435
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:37.739
been working against all resistance to deport millions of illegals,

1436
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:41.319
some who have killed our citizens. In every state of

1437
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:45.829
the union, a homicide has occurred to an American citizen

1438
01:21:45.989 --> 01:21:49.420
at the hands of an illegal immigrant. They've taken unfair

1439
01:21:49.460 --> 01:21:53.250
advantage of our hospitality by stealing, committing billions of dollars

1440
01:21:53.310 --> 01:21:56.890
in fraud against our social services. Affordability was an issue

1441
01:21:57.010 --> 01:22:00.069
on day one of this administration because, as I mentioned,

1442
01:22:00.329 --> 01:22:04.539
what the Biden administration, Democratic policies and regulations, how they

1443
01:22:04.579 --> 01:22:08.720
weakened our energy sector, monetary policy, raising inflation as high

1444
01:22:08.779 --> 01:22:12.640
as almost 9%, you know, something that can't be resolved overnight.

1445
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:15.670
But we're supposed to believe that Trump is.

1446
01:22:15.630 --> 01:22:16.149
Bad, Todd.

1447
01:22:17.510 --> 01:22:20.050
Yeah, look, they tried to tell us that George W.

1448
01:22:20.090 --> 01:22:23.470
Bush was Hitler. So again, I think you've just got

1449
01:22:23.489 --> 01:22:26.829
to remember, this is the way they play the game, right?

1450
01:22:27.189 --> 01:22:27.970
It doesn't matter.

1451
01:22:28.750 --> 01:22:31.140
It could have been Jeb Bush in the White House,

1452
01:22:31.340 --> 01:22:34.939
and there would be that same level of vitriol that

1453
01:22:34.979 --> 01:22:39.310
we've seen directed at Donald Trump. What makes this so disingenuous, though,

1454
01:22:39.689 --> 01:22:41.949
is that many of these people who have been attacking

1455
01:22:41.989 --> 01:22:45.750
President Trump used to be his friends before he became president.

1456
01:22:46.149 --> 01:22:49.949
So I think, again, it's ugly, and I think it's

1457
01:22:49.989 --> 01:22:55.390
gone well beyond the norms in politics. But the reality

1458
01:22:55.609 --> 01:23:00.640
is it's all political theater. I really do believe that. And,

1459
01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:03.659
you know, when you look at some of the conservative

1460
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:08.479
TV cable channels, for example, I'll give you an example

1461
01:23:08.500 --> 01:23:11.880
of this. On one of them in particular, they'll be

1462
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:15.289
yelling and screaming at these Democrats, these far leftists, on

1463
01:23:15.329 --> 01:23:18.569
the TV set. After hours, they're hanging out at a

1464
01:23:18.609 --> 01:23:23.399
watering hole together. That, to me, just screams democracy. disingenuous,

1465
01:23:23.739 --> 01:23:26.619
and it's not right, but that's the way it is,

1466
01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:28.359
as Dr. Cronkite said.

1467
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:30.319
Well, we got to put a wrap on it. He's

1468
01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:32.890
the author of The Golden Age, How Trump Saved America,

1469
01:23:33.890 --> 01:23:37.970
an American conservative columnist, commentator, writer, radio host. Todd Starnes

1470
01:23:38.010 --> 01:23:42.649
has been our guest. Todd, as we part here, what's

1471
01:23:42.689 --> 01:23:45.189
the big takeaway? What do you want the audience to

1472
01:23:45.229 --> 01:23:46.090
take away from this book?

1473
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:51.800
The golden age is not about lower gas prices or affordability.

1474
01:23:51.899 --> 01:23:55.500
The golden age is really an aspiration more so than

1475
01:23:55.539 --> 01:23:58.560
a destination. There's a great song, and I write about

1476
01:23:58.579 --> 01:24:01.300
this in the book, from George Beverly Shea. I'd rather

1477
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:05.949
have Jesus than silver or gold. You know, our aspiration

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01:24:06.029 --> 01:24:09.210
should be to follow the teachings of Christ. And I

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01:24:09.250 --> 01:24:12.590
believe if we return to the faith of our founding fathers,

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01:24:12.649 --> 01:24:14.810
we're going to be that shining city on a hill.

1481
01:24:15.869 --> 01:24:19.229
And that ultimately, for me, is what the golden age

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01:24:19.390 --> 01:24:20.329
is really all about.

1483
01:24:20.949 --> 01:24:22.270
I'm with you, Todd. Thank you so much.

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01:24:22.529 --> 01:24:22.890
Take care.

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01:24:22.930 --> 01:24:23.630
God bless, my friend.

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Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here with Dr. Wilford Riley

1540
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from Kentucky State University. Hey, Will, how are we doing?

1541
01:28:08.710 --> 01:28:09.710
Pretty well, doing pretty well.

1542
01:28:09.729 --> 01:28:12.609
What about you? Well, doing fine. You know, I'm not

1543
01:28:12.649 --> 01:28:15.829
like you, though. You're back in session. Kids are back

1544
01:28:15.909 --> 01:28:19.680
on campus. What's the buzz amongst the kids as they're

1545
01:28:19.699 --> 01:28:21.439
coming back after a summer break?

1546
01:28:22.500 --> 01:28:25.060
Well, they're mostly just glad to be back in school,

1547
01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:28.140
see their friends, all that kind of thing. They're not

1548
01:28:28.180 --> 01:28:31.600
necessarily excited about the tests and homework, but they are.

1549
01:28:31.699 --> 01:28:34.850
They're pretty happy to be back in the building. So

1550
01:28:34.970 --> 01:28:38.630
overall good. They're a little annoyed about some of our policies.

1551
01:28:38.810 --> 01:28:41.699
We're doing all our tests and person because of massive

1552
01:28:41.819 --> 01:28:43.260
AI cheating at every college.

1553
01:28:43.300 --> 01:28:44.859
So that's something most schools are doing.

1554
01:28:45.819 --> 01:28:49.550
Oh, so they're having a tough time adjusting to that, huh?

1555
01:28:50.789 --> 01:28:52.430
Yeah, I mean, we actually we had one of the

1556
01:28:52.470 --> 01:28:55.109
lowest rates of cheating in the state of Kentucky. But

1557
01:28:55.170 --> 01:28:58.729
at every major college, like when tests were put online,

1558
01:28:58.770 --> 01:29:02.409
the rate of tampering was like 40 percent, 50 percent,

1559
01:29:02.729 --> 01:29:04.539
because you could just cut and paste the test to

1560
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.239
drop it in grok heavy. And you can tell the

1561
01:29:07.340 --> 01:29:11.439
AI model, you know, complete this test and get 91

1562
01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:14.520
percent correct. So it looks somewhat plausible. And so you

1563
01:29:14.539 --> 01:29:16.640
have to figure out how to deal with that. And

1564
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:18.020
most people have just gone back to sort of the

1565
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:18.460
blue book.

1566
01:29:19.149 --> 01:29:19.819
Right, exactly.

1567
01:29:19.899 --> 01:29:22.989
So, yeah, so we just get back to the way

1568
01:29:23.010 --> 01:29:25.210
it was. I mean, it's too bad we can't figure

1569
01:29:25.250 --> 01:29:27.710
out to do the same thing with our elections, right?

1570
01:29:29.069 --> 01:29:31.670
Yeah, I mean, that's something I've said for quite a while,

1571
01:29:31.689 --> 01:29:34.090
that the way to election security is really just to

1572
01:29:34.130 --> 01:29:38.069
have paper ballots. You get dozens of volunteers from both parties,

1573
01:29:38.210 --> 01:29:41.149
older ladies probably, and you have them grade the, score

1574
01:29:41.170 --> 01:29:43.430
the ballots at a table. And in a lot of

1575
01:29:43.489 --> 01:29:46.569
other countries where you haven't yet had the blessing and

1576
01:29:46.670 --> 01:29:51.029
curse of technology, Elections usually take a day. Every time

1577
01:29:51.069 --> 01:29:54.149
I look, I'm watching the election in a developing country

1578
01:29:54.189 --> 01:29:58.430
with a friend from there or something. Nigeria or Mexico.

1579
01:29:58.489 --> 01:30:01.569
Mexico's not developing anymore. But it takes two or three days.

1580
01:30:02.069 --> 01:30:06.770
They're like El Salvador. Bukele wins in eight hours. So

1581
01:30:07.029 --> 01:30:09.680
I think we can easily do the same thing. With

1582
01:30:09.729 --> 01:30:14.159
all our mechanical technology and votes delayed for three weeks

1583
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:17.890
to help, people overseas or the handicapped or whatever. I mean,

1584
01:30:17.909 --> 01:30:20.850
an American election can take months and that's very problematic

1585
01:30:20.909 --> 01:30:22.029
and that makes it easier to hack.

1586
01:30:22.670 --> 01:30:25.210
Well, especially like in California. I mean, here it is.

1587
01:30:25.289 --> 01:30:27.050
It went on, you know, they said it was going

1588
01:30:27.069 --> 01:30:29.340
to be three weeks and then they got to the point,

1589
01:30:29.380 --> 01:30:31.899
I guess, where they just, you know, they got tired

1590
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:35.020
of manufacturing votes. They said, oh yeah, Karen Bass won.

1591
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:38.699
And then you, and then of course the big controversy

1592
01:30:38.739 --> 01:30:41.520
coming out of there is you had this polling, you know,

1593
01:30:41.579 --> 01:30:45.859
company that put up this faux poll saying, that obviously

1594
01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:50.340
influenced the voters, showing that Karen Bass was running away

1595
01:30:50.380 --> 01:30:55.399
with everything. Then it was like, here they get found

1596
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:58.060
out and they go, well, we're not in business anymore.

1597
01:30:59.270 --> 01:31:01.069
Well, this is actually insane.

1598
01:31:01.090 --> 01:31:03.369
This is one of the bigger political science stories of

1599
01:31:03.430 --> 01:31:06.970
the past couple of years. This same company put a

1600
01:31:07.310 --> 01:31:11.600
poll out saying that Hong The kind of crazy anti-white

1601
01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:13.819
candidate that recently just lost her race was up by

1602
01:31:13.819 --> 01:31:14.699
23 points.

1603
01:31:15.060 --> 01:31:15.279
Yes.

1604
01:31:15.300 --> 01:31:17.930
They had a poll showing Fishback and Donalds. I don't

1605
01:31:17.939 --> 01:31:19.510
have a beef with either of these guys, but tied.

1606
01:31:19.350 --> 01:31:19.789
Neck and neck.

1607
01:31:19.850 --> 01:31:22.289
Fishback got 10 percent of the vote. So, like, I

1608
01:31:22.329 --> 01:31:25.210
think people have joked about this before. Like, what if

1609
01:31:25.270 --> 01:31:28.149
a pollster just wagged the dog? What if they took

1610
01:31:28.170 --> 01:31:31.890
your half million and they didn't poll anybody? And I

1611
01:31:31.930 --> 01:31:34.010
think this is the first time it's happened where some

1612
01:31:34.069 --> 01:31:36.479
clever young guys just said, we're going to do this.

1613
01:31:36.890 --> 01:31:38.850
We're going to take and spend the money. And then

1614
01:31:39.149 --> 01:31:42.170
what did they call it? A social experiment? They said

1615
01:31:42.189 --> 01:31:45.069
they were doing this to see how gullible people were.

1616
01:31:45.510 --> 01:31:47.750
But I mean, it's just it's the craziest thing in

1617
01:31:47.770 --> 01:31:50.210
the world. I'd imagine they'd be at least civilly sued

1618
01:31:50.270 --> 01:31:51.609
because you can't do that.

1619
01:31:51.729 --> 01:31:53.590
Yeah. So we'll see what happens.

1620
01:31:54.170 --> 01:31:58.770
Well, but again, see, when you have the attitude, the

1621
01:31:58.810 --> 01:32:04.970
perception that, you know, the the election process is fraught

1622
01:32:05.010 --> 01:32:07.760
with fraud. OK, what's a little more fraud, you know?

1623
01:32:08.100 --> 01:32:11.720
So why not? We'll just have fun and play games. And,

1624
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:16.470
you know, here we are. And look what happened in L.A.

1625
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:20.029
and God only knows how many other places. And something

1626
01:32:20.050 --> 01:32:21.770
tells me, well, this is not going to be the

1627
01:32:21.810 --> 01:32:22.069
end of it.

1628
01:32:23.779 --> 01:32:26.420
Yeah, I mean, I think that this probably wasn't the

1629
01:32:26.460 --> 01:32:28.319
beginning of it either. I mean, like I said, this

1630
01:32:28.380 --> 01:32:32.369
is something that sort of edgy young business people, political scientists,

1631
01:32:32.409 --> 01:32:35.510
stock traders have always joked about. Like, we should set

1632
01:32:35.550 --> 01:32:38.010
up one of these polling companies, buddy. And, you know,

1633
01:32:38.029 --> 01:32:39.109
I might be the guy who says, I don't feel

1634
01:32:39.130 --> 01:32:41.380
like polling. And then someone would say, well, you don't

1635
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.810
have to actually poll. You know, so it's just that

1636
01:32:43.930 --> 01:32:45.850
there's a basic question of, you know, if you know

1637
01:32:46.010 --> 01:32:47.829
from other polls that someone's ahead by 10.

1638
01:32:47.590 --> 01:32:50.109
Percentage points, you could just say that.

1639
01:32:50.670 --> 01:32:52.869
And I mean, obviously, everyone would then just smoke their

1640
01:32:52.890 --> 01:32:54.189
cigar and say, OK, we're not doing that.

1641
01:32:54.229 --> 01:32:54.979
These guys did it.

1642
01:32:55.689 --> 01:32:59.050
And I don't apparently they put out enough wrong results

1643
01:32:59.210 --> 01:33:01.529
that they either were doing an experiment or they had

1644
01:33:01.550 --> 01:33:02.829
to eat crow and admit it.

1645
01:33:03.340 --> 01:33:05.140
But I think there's probably been a lot of.

1646
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:07.819
Bad data that's been going out into the slipstream and

1647
01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:10.640
kind of the post Enron era. I would bet large

1648
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:12.789
amounts of money on it. And it now makes a

1649
01:33:12.810 --> 01:33:14.949
little more sense why some of these companies have said

1650
01:33:14.989 --> 01:33:17.680
just crazy things, like Trump's behind by seven points.

1651
01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:20.680
Why might you say that? Well, maybe you're a Democratic-run outfit,

1652
01:33:20.699 --> 01:33:21.979
and you're just making up the data.

1653
01:33:22.300 --> 01:33:24.659
So I think that it's maybe time to get a

1654
01:33:24.659 --> 01:33:25.859
little more skeptical about that.

1655
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:30.649
Well, yeah, if you're not skeptical already, I mean, it's

1656
01:33:30.689 --> 01:33:34.810
like there's been plenty of reason to be skeptical. And

1657
01:33:35.229 --> 01:33:37.569
I guess that's where I find myself these days more

1658
01:33:38.010 --> 01:33:42.329
in the camp of skepticism, because- you know, we've got

1659
01:33:42.369 --> 01:33:45.680
people yanking our chain, and they're not interested in the truth,

1660
01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:48.380
the whole truth and nothing but. And so, you know,

1661
01:33:48.460 --> 01:33:50.399
I find out who they are, and I choose not

1662
01:33:50.439 --> 01:33:51.619
to associate with them anymore.

1663
01:33:53.380 --> 01:33:55.720
Yeah, I mean, I choose not to associate with people

1664
01:33:55.739 --> 01:33:57.819
that are obvious liars and all that. But I mean,

1665
01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:00.359
I think that there's a deeper question of what do

1666
01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:03.949
you do with the corrupted information? So I mean, like

1667
01:34:04.010 --> 01:34:07.390
the polls that showed that Trump Because this has a

1668
01:34:07.409 --> 01:34:11.409
real impact. Like, if you are using a poll that

1669
01:34:11.449 --> 01:34:13.510
shows that Trump is down by seven the day before

1670
01:34:13.550 --> 01:34:17.140
the election, I think there's an assumption throughout society that

1671
01:34:17.180 --> 01:34:19.140
no one would just make that up. And now it

1672
01:34:19.180 --> 01:34:22.819
seems increasingly obvious that there are multiple top 10 polling

1673
01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:25.819
outfits that did. I mean, maybe not in that case,

1674
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:28.539
but that do that. Like, Hong was up by 23, allegedly.

1675
01:34:29.060 --> 01:34:32.060
But those kind of things have major impacts. Like, if

1676
01:34:32.090 --> 01:34:34.010
you feel like your candidates down by 10 or up

1677
01:34:34.050 --> 01:34:36.810
by 20, like, you're much less likely to vote. There's

1678
01:34:36.850 --> 01:34:39.550
a whole bunch of research on this. So it's not

1679
01:34:39.609 --> 01:34:42.149
just that you're taking crap and putting it out in

1680
01:34:42.170 --> 01:34:46.260
the public place. You're probably doing that because they're results.

1681
01:34:45.899 --> 01:34:49.300
You expect to get. So this is.

1682
01:34:49.220 --> 01:34:52.680
An interesting social experiment. That's actually in their little letter

1683
01:34:52.739 --> 01:34:54.659
what they said they were doing. They wanted to see

1684
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:59.729
how vulnerable people were to obviously partisan, kind of obviously

1685
01:34:59.789 --> 01:35:01.210
inaccurate misinformation.

1686
01:35:01.729 --> 01:35:04.170
And it turned out people were very, very vulnerable to it.

1687
01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:07.020
Yeah, and we needed to run more tests after COVID

1688
01:35:07.039 --> 01:35:08.399
to see how vulnerable people would be?

1689
01:35:08.420 --> 01:35:12.140
I mean, I think COVID was a pretty good one,

1690
01:35:12.180 --> 01:35:17.149
but that actually is extremely problematic. Now, there were red

1691
01:35:17.229 --> 01:35:20.409
states like Florida and even Kentucky that didn't really put

1692
01:35:20.489 --> 01:35:21.789
up with a lot of the COVID stuff.

1693
01:35:21.810 --> 01:35:23.750
They were open in months.

1694
01:35:24.090 --> 01:35:27.109
Seniors were protected, but they were protected by organizations within

1695
01:35:27.149 --> 01:35:29.229
neighborhoods that shopped for them and so on. But in

1696
01:35:29.270 --> 01:35:33.220
a lot of the larger states, California, New York, For

1697
01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:36.960
that matter, purple states like Ohio, the whole like American thing,

1698
01:35:36.979 --> 01:35:39.689
like we're not going to tolerate any infringement of our freedoms.

1699
01:35:39.750 --> 01:35:41.829
I mean, like their people are still school kids are

1700
01:35:41.850 --> 01:35:44.710
eating outside three years later. So I think that for

1701
01:35:44.750 --> 01:35:47.930
the powers that be, they now know that that's probably

1702
01:35:48.050 --> 01:35:52.710
not true. And if you use very dubious information to

1703
01:35:52.770 --> 01:35:56.640
implement these kind of draconian measures, 80 percent of people

1704
01:35:56.699 --> 01:35:58.739
are just going to go along with that. And that's

1705
01:35:58.779 --> 01:36:02.220
a disturbing thing for the for the government to know.

1706
01:36:02.970 --> 01:36:03.149
Right.

1707
01:36:03.409 --> 01:36:05.390
But what happens the next time if it's a real

1708
01:36:05.449 --> 01:36:13.890
thing and we need to have adherence? They've lost their credibility. Yeah.

1709
01:36:13.930 --> 01:36:15.949
I mean, the thing with COVID, like COVID was real

1710
01:36:16.020 --> 01:36:17.880
in the sense that it could kill you. It was

1711
01:36:17.899 --> 01:36:21.819
just very, COVID was not what it was presented as being.

1712
01:36:21.979 --> 01:36:24.859
I think that, so this again gets into false information

1713
01:36:24.899 --> 01:36:28.989
and why trust is important. Like the original presentation of

1714
01:36:29.069 --> 01:36:31.770
COVID-19 was that it was the rage virus from the

1715
01:36:31.810 --> 01:36:35.550
Resident Evil series of movies. I mean, Neil Ferguson, that

1716
01:36:35.850 --> 01:36:40.670
British epidemiologist, the greatest destroyer of wealth since Subotai, the

1717
01:36:40.710 --> 01:36:44.670
Mongol general. I mean, he argued that two million people

1718
01:36:44.710 --> 01:36:47.310
were going to die. I think no matter what we did,

1719
01:36:47.350 --> 01:36:49.109
I'd have to reread his paper, but two million people

1720
01:36:49.140 --> 01:36:51.239
were going to die by October of the first year

1721
01:36:51.260 --> 01:36:53.699
in the United States. It turns out that over five

1722
01:36:53.739 --> 01:36:56.659
years of COVID, about a million people maybe have died

1723
01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:00.640
with COVID-19. So there's still a problem. That's like the

1724
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:03.340
fourth leading cause of death. But it's not a problem

1725
01:37:03.380 --> 01:37:05.560
at the level that was presented. And then people started

1726
01:37:05.619 --> 01:37:09.300
jumping on top of that building bubble of panic. So

1727
01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:11.939
you had a Puyo, the tech genius, say that, no,

1728
01:37:11.939 --> 01:37:14.909
10 million people are going to die unless we lock down.

1729
01:37:14.949 --> 01:37:18.010
And that's what led to lockdowns, those guys. So, I mean,

1730
01:37:18.050 --> 01:37:20.329
that was all wrong. I mean, there's no other way

1731
01:37:20.369 --> 01:37:22.930
to put it. And we paid the price for that.

1732
01:37:23.289 --> 01:37:27.500
So the theme here is like believing partisan misinformation. And

1733
01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:32.199
I guess there's no real, other than distrust or the

1734
01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:35.439
ability to check pretty advanced methods, there's no way to

1735
01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:37.520
guard against partisan misinformation anymore.

1736
01:37:37.850 --> 01:37:40.189
Historically, the assumption was just you wouldn't get too much

1737
01:37:40.229 --> 01:37:40.409
of it.

1738
01:37:41.109 --> 01:37:41.329
Right.

1739
01:37:41.689 --> 01:37:44.369
Or that you'd have the media, you know, serving as

1740
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a guardrail and balancing out that misinformation.

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We're talking with a professor of political science at Kentucky

1801
01:41:55.119 --> 01:41:57.859
State University. He's the author of Taboo, 10 Facts You

1802
01:41:57.899 --> 01:42:00.859
Can't Talk About. And Lies My Liberal Teacher Taught Me, Dr.

1803
01:42:00.899 --> 01:42:04.609
Wilfred Riley. Well, the story that will not go away

1804
01:42:05.229 --> 01:42:07.189
is Sophie Cunningham and the WNBA.

1805
01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:11.229
Yeah, I like big Soph.

1806
01:42:11.470 --> 01:42:13.949
I mean, it's amazing to me that sort of these

1807
01:42:14.369 --> 01:42:18.229
macho men's right-wing programs are talking so much about the WNBA.

1808
01:42:18.250 --> 01:42:20.789
I mean, my one sort of Fox appearance recently was

1809
01:42:20.810 --> 01:42:24.239
also about the WNBA. It's become a very popular topic

1810
01:42:24.260 --> 01:42:28.039
of discussion. But, you know, first of all, you are

1811
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:30.859
getting some better players in the league. Kaitlyn Clark obviously

1812
01:42:30.939 --> 01:42:33.979
is an excellent shooter, ball handler. Sophie Cunningham is kind

1813
01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:36.630
of her protector. She's the force. She's the power forward

1814
01:42:36.689 --> 01:42:39.460
on that team. You know, Angel Reese is, I mean,

1815
01:42:39.500 --> 01:42:41.699
I make fun of her game because she's mostly rebounding

1816
01:42:41.739 --> 01:42:43.350
her own misses, but it's probably going to set the

1817
01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:44.789
WNBA rebounding record.

1818
01:42:44.850 --> 01:42:46.489
So they're doing pretty well over there.

1819
01:42:47.069 --> 01:42:51.909
What's drawn the WNBA into the public spotlight this past week,

1820
01:42:51.949 --> 01:42:54.630
of course, is the fact that Freedom Cantor and Royce

1821
01:42:54.710 --> 01:42:58.649
White have announced that they're in the draft. And now

1822
01:42:58.689 --> 01:43:00.770
a guy in the Russian League has declared as well.

1823
01:43:00.829 --> 01:43:03.930
So you have all these men... that are in the

1824
01:43:04.510 --> 01:43:08.399
WNBA draft pool, Royce White, who's a former NBA player,

1825
01:43:08.569 --> 01:43:10.619
conservative black guy, GOP candidate.

1826
01:43:11.140 --> 01:43:12.489
Beard, like 5'6.

1827
01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:15.720
He actually bought a blonde wig. So when he does

1828
01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:19.119
these interviews now, it's him sitting there like, yeah, I'll

1829
01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:22.779
always be a man, but with the wig on. So anyway,

1830
01:43:22.939 --> 01:43:26.060
funny stuff. But Sophie Cunningham is, I think, popular just

1831
01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:29.100
because of her personality. She seems to genuinely like life.

1832
01:43:29.539 --> 01:43:31.859
she doesn't seem to dislike any of the major races.

1833
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:32.939
She likes America.

1834
01:43:33.380 --> 01:43:35.840
There's a, there's a scene where she goes to.

1835
01:43:35.779 --> 01:43:38.850
One of the big bars in Indianapolis after a game.

1836
01:43:39.229 --> 01:43:39.430
Yeah.

1837
01:43:39.449 --> 01:43:41.909
Courtesy of the red, white, and blue. And she's dancing

1838
01:43:41.949 --> 01:43:44.109
on the bar with a bunch of guys. I think

1839
01:43:44.130 --> 01:43:47.649
most people are just pleased to see an athlete that

1840
01:43:47.689 --> 01:43:51.010
seems to like the country, like them, like the fans,

1841
01:43:51.449 --> 01:43:55.140
as opposed to a bunch of surly anger and, holding

1842
01:43:55.180 --> 01:43:57.779
the autobiography of Malcolm X, which they've clearly only read

1843
01:43:57.779 --> 01:44:00.020
10 pages of and commenting on it.

1844
01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:02.159
I mean, kind of the LeBron model irritates a lot

1845
01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:02.520
of people.

1846
01:44:03.020 --> 01:44:05.850
Right, without a doubt. Well, the deal is the WNBA

1847
01:44:06.470 --> 01:44:09.949
needs a crisis manager. They don't know what to do.

1848
01:44:10.489 --> 01:44:14.770
And sitting there, of course, the other big story that's

1849
01:44:14.810 --> 01:44:17.409
come out is how the fans have been mistreated. Here

1850
01:44:17.430 --> 01:44:19.930
you've got a mother and daughter. They paid $ 1, 000 per ticket.

1851
01:44:22.529 --> 01:44:25.770
to go see a WNBA game, and they're wearing T-shirts.

1852
01:44:26.250 --> 01:44:32.420
And somehow, according to the one official that confronted them,

1853
01:44:34.180 --> 01:44:37.539
they're the, oh, I don't want to say law enforcement.

1854
01:44:37.560 --> 01:44:41.329
It wasn't law enforcement, but it was security for the

1855
01:44:41.350 --> 01:44:44.189
team there. Went to them and said that their shirts

1856
01:44:45.270 --> 01:44:47.210
were offensive to an individual.

1857
01:44:49.850 --> 01:44:50.569
Yeah, that's crazy.

1858
01:44:50.609 --> 01:44:52.970
So first of all, shout out to Jennifer Say of

1859
01:44:53.149 --> 01:44:54.590
XXXY Athletics.

1860
01:44:54.609 --> 01:44:56.489
That's actually my friend's company, like.

1861
01:44:56.329 --> 01:45:03.060
A former VP for Levi's, decided to make a brand

1862
01:45:03.100 --> 01:45:06.859
that's actual men's and women's athletic wear. And that's actually like,

1863
01:45:07.560 --> 01:45:10.739
it's more in demand than you might think, like pants

1864
01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:14.489
with pockets for women and like, actually absorbent fabric.

1865
01:45:14.630 --> 01:45:17.329
But for the guys, you have stuff that's hard to, like,

1866
01:45:17.609 --> 01:45:18.529
the clothes are actually good.

1867
01:45:18.569 --> 01:45:21.649
Like, I have some XXXY athletic stuff. But because it

1868
01:45:21.670 --> 01:45:24.829
says XXXY, like, these would be the demands for a

1869
01:45:24.989 --> 01:45:29.380
male athlete, whereas a woman might want this as she trains.

1870
01:45:30.100 --> 01:45:34.539
It's become very controversial. And so at these WNBA games,

1871
01:45:34.659 --> 01:45:37.600
Jen and a bunch of friends, like Riley Gaines has

1872
01:45:37.619 --> 01:45:41.880
gone to a few, Megan Murphy, the, like, post-feminist writer,

1873
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:44.859
Like they've gone to these games and they actually like

1874
01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:47.720
they're all athletes and they like the sport, but they've

1875
01:45:47.960 --> 01:45:50.140
been kind of almost chased away.

1876
01:45:50.340 --> 01:45:51.319
The idea is like, who.

1877
01:45:51.260 --> 01:45:54.939
Are these conservative women to come cheer for women's sports?

1878
01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:58.369
And it's sort of revealed who the, like a lot

1879
01:45:58.390 --> 01:46:01.229
of the ownership of the WNBA team seemed to be

1880
01:46:01.270 --> 01:46:04.529
very wealthy kind of radical lesbians. I don't know another

1881
01:46:04.550 --> 01:46:07.890
way to put it. So like the Seattle storm ownership,

1882
01:46:07.930 --> 01:46:11.649
which is two, like five foot four lesbian partners. came

1883
01:46:11.689 --> 01:46:17.840
and argued with Jen. So there's a question of, in business,

1884
01:46:17.979 --> 01:46:21.619
are you able to grow? Like the natural audience for

1885
01:46:21.699 --> 01:46:22.619
the WNBA.

1886
01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:24.899
Yeah, I mean, I think.

1887
01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:26.350
We both know that and have experienced it.

1888
01:46:26.369 --> 01:46:29.569
Like the natural audience for the WNBA would be dads,

1889
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Mostly right wing, but also black, Hispanic.

1890
01:46:32.939 --> 01:46:35.380
A lot of them right wing, but dads with daughters.

1891
01:46:35.539 --> 01:46:38.579
Like, yes, you get beyond that sort of gay urban

1892
01:46:38.659 --> 01:46:41.680
audience and you go to guys whose girl just made

1893
01:46:41.720 --> 01:46:43.960
varsity and you pitch this as.

1894
01:46:43.899 --> 01:46:46.899
An all American fun experience.

1895
01:46:46.979 --> 01:46:49.250
It's maybe as good as men's college ball, but the

1896
01:46:49.310 --> 01:46:52.770
players are pretty and they're proud of it. That's exactly

1897
01:46:52.789 --> 01:46:54.630
the opposite of what the WNBA wants to do. You'd

1898
01:46:54.649 --> 01:46:56.250
have to take the rainbow flags.

1899
01:46:55.970 --> 01:46:59.069
Off the court. So you've got to maybe new ownership

1900
01:46:59.090 --> 01:47:00.750
would help them. I think that would be a plus.

1901
01:47:01.590 --> 01:47:05.909
Yeah, well, you know, I'm surprised, frankly, that the the NBA,

1902
01:47:05.949 --> 01:47:09.560
because they own in essence, they own the WNBA. Why

1903
01:47:09.579 --> 01:47:12.319
they're not stepping in and doing something here. They're almost

1904
01:47:12.380 --> 01:47:15.979
like just watching it like they're, you know, I don't know.

1905
01:47:16.020 --> 01:47:18.640
It's like a female mud wrestling deal or something.

1906
01:47:18.659 --> 01:47:19.260
I don't know.

1907
01:47:19.319 --> 01:47:22.550
It's weird. Yeah, that's an interesting question.

1908
01:47:22.609 --> 01:47:26.229
I think it's because of the, and like conservative business

1909
01:47:26.250 --> 01:47:28.449
people always attribute things to woke as though it's like

1910
01:47:28.470 --> 01:47:31.250
an amorphous force in the ether. I think that there

1911
01:47:31.300 --> 01:47:35.760
are specific things that like Dick Hanania, for example, pointed

1912
01:47:35.779 --> 01:47:38.359
out in the roots of woke, like there were until

1913
01:47:38.460 --> 01:47:42.779
recently their ESG scores, for example, were taken very seriously

1914
01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:45.760
by big brands. Like how, how much are you teaching

1915
01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:49.060
people to be nice and, How much gender equity do

1916
01:47:49.069 --> 01:47:51.020
you have? So like the NBA would have a zero

1917
01:47:51.079 --> 01:47:55.779
gender equity score. They have no female employees if you're

1918
01:47:55.819 --> 01:47:58.699
counting athletes, even in the front office. I mean, I

1919
01:47:58.699 --> 01:48:00.739
would assume those are all former players of people who

1920
01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:02.520
aren't quite good enough to make the league like guys

1921
01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:03.890
from the Big Ten or the Pac-10.

1922
01:48:04.289 --> 01:48:05.729
So the WNBA.

1923
01:48:05.369 --> 01:48:09.390
Probably boosts all of those those metrics for them. So

1924
01:48:09.430 --> 01:48:11.409
if they go on to the WNBA and they take

1925
01:48:11.489 --> 01:48:14.210
away all the gay rights stuff, like does the human

1926
01:48:14.270 --> 01:48:15.689
rights campaign.

1927
01:48:15.170 --> 01:48:16.439
Start scoring them down?

1928
01:48:16.819 --> 01:48:19.449
And now if I were the Commissioner Silver of the NBA,

1929
01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:20.779
I wouldn't worry about that at all.

1930
01:48:20.819 --> 01:48:21.020
Nope.

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Your fan base doesn't care. Your fan base is like

1932
01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:27.000
urban guys who play basketball. But if you worry about

1933
01:48:27.020 --> 01:48:30.420
all these external metrics, if you worry about being humiliated

1934
01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:34.279
at dinner parties in New York, then you've got, you

1935
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:37.020
don't just have stockholders anymore. You have stakeholders and that's

1936
01:48:37.060 --> 01:48:37.460
a problem.

1937
01:48:38.220 --> 01:48:38.420
Right.

1938
01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:38.920
Exactly.

1939
01:48:38.939 --> 01:48:41.880
Uh, well, I want to talk about Donald Trump for

1940
01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:45.060
just a moment. Uh, because I, I tell you, this is,

1941
01:48:45.380 --> 01:48:47.819
you know, the narrative that's being put out there and supported,

1942
01:48:48.279 --> 01:48:50.739
you know, by the mainstream media. And of course the Democrats,

1943
01:48:50.770 --> 01:48:53.529
then you got the left of the left Democrats who, uh,

1944
01:48:53.729 --> 01:48:58.430
the DSA types, um, you know, they repeatedly talk about

1945
01:48:58.470 --> 01:49:01.350
how bad Trump is. And, and I'm thinking, wait a minute,

1946
01:49:01.630 --> 01:49:05.489
since taking office, you know, as promised, he secures the border, uh,

1947
01:49:06.979 --> 01:49:10.100
And this is against all resistance to deport millions of illegals,

1948
01:49:11.300 --> 01:49:13.880
some who have killed our citizens. Every state of the

1949
01:49:13.979 --> 01:49:17.680
union has suffered a homicide at the hands of an

1950
01:49:17.739 --> 01:49:22.550
illegal in our country. They've taken unfair of our hospitality

1951
01:49:22.590 --> 01:49:26.350
by stealing and committing billions of dollars of fraud against

1952
01:49:26.390 --> 01:49:31.239
our social services. Affordability was an issue. on day one

1953
01:49:31.439 --> 01:49:35.939
of this administration because of Biden and democratic policies and

1954
01:49:35.979 --> 01:49:40.510
regulations that weakened our energy sector, monetary policy, raising inflation

1955
01:49:40.529 --> 01:49:43.850
almost 9%, you know, something that can't be resolved overnight.

1956
01:49:44.229 --> 01:49:47.409
And then of course, let's not even mention or get

1957
01:49:47.449 --> 01:49:50.329
into big detail about the big, beautiful bill that people

1958
01:49:50.470 --> 01:49:53.760
are realizing, you know, a bigger check, you know, in

1959
01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:57.659
returns from the IRS, no tax on tip, no tax

1960
01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:01.789
on social security, but, Donald Trump's bad. What am I missing?

1961
01:50:03.449 --> 01:50:05.479
Well, I think that for a lot of people on the...

1962
01:50:05.649 --> 01:50:07.250
So first of all, for people on the left, Donald

1963
01:50:07.270 --> 01:50:09.069
Trump's bad because he's the.

1964
01:50:08.979 --> 01:50:11.039
Demon-like head of the Republican Party.

1965
01:50:11.060 --> 01:50:12.680
But I think for a lot of people on the right,

1966
01:50:12.939 --> 01:50:16.680
Israel and Iran have become big distractions. And I don't

1967
01:50:16.779 --> 01:50:19.420
think that this is a real offline issue, by the way.

1968
01:50:20.039 --> 01:50:22.189
So like I said, I don't have huge beef with

1969
01:50:22.229 --> 01:50:25.550
either of these guys, but we saw yesterday the Byron

1970
01:50:25.590 --> 01:50:28.960
Donald's James Fishback election. And these guys have been talking

1971
01:50:28.979 --> 01:50:31.119
a lot of trash back and forth, and Fishback is

1972
01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:34.350
kind of presenting himself as the dynamic young man's candidate.

1973
01:50:34.710 --> 01:50:37.189
We're going to stop funding these Middle Eastern wars and

1974
01:50:37.210 --> 01:50:37.750
all this stuff.

1975
01:50:38.270 --> 01:50:39.710
Fishback got 10% of the vote.

1976
01:50:40.329 --> 01:50:43.590
So the question is, how much does this sort of

1977
01:50:43.710 --> 01:50:50.689
groiperism really appeal versus MAGA versus— mainstream GOP conservatism to

1978
01:50:50.710 --> 01:50:51.670
the Republican base?

1979
01:50:52.069 --> 01:50:52.869
Probably not much.

1980
01:50:53.210 --> 01:50:55.369
By the way, even seven out of 10 of the

1981
01:50:55.430 --> 01:50:57.630
DSA candidates, so the Dems have more of a problem

1982
01:50:57.649 --> 01:51:00.970
with this, but lost as versus like the big Jim Clyburn,

1983
01:51:01.090 --> 01:51:03.630
union boss type of Democrat. So, I mean, like when

1984
01:51:03.670 --> 01:51:07.369
I look at, Johnny Rebel said this online, he's talking

1985
01:51:07.390 --> 01:51:09.630
about Trump. He said, I hate Trump's Iran policy, but

1986
01:51:09.670 --> 01:51:13.130
since 2016, we've seen the overturn of Roe versus Wade.

1987
01:51:13.449 --> 01:51:17.680
We've seen the abolition of affirmative action. border secured, gun

1988
01:51:17.720 --> 01:51:19.899
rights expanded, I don't know, I have a question about

1989
01:51:19.930 --> 01:51:24.850
that one, but tax cuts, regulatory cuts, energy expansion, DEI

1990
01:51:24.970 --> 01:51:29.890
ended via fair admissions, massive ICE funding, federal workforce slashed.

1991
01:51:30.010 --> 01:51:32.250
I think that's underappreciated, by the way, on the right.

1992
01:51:32.489 --> 01:51:37.100
The federal workforce is down by 600,000 jobs between Trump, Rubio,

1993
01:51:37.140 --> 01:51:41.899
and Elon Musk. Crime rates down, ACA individual mandate gone,

1994
01:51:41.939 --> 01:51:46.600
that one bipartisan. So I think that A lot of

1995
01:51:46.770 --> 01:51:50.369
people have been kind of, they've heard a lot of this,

1996
01:51:51.189 --> 01:51:54.630
the USA is controlled by Israel and or the Arab

1997
01:51:54.729 --> 01:51:58.189
stuff online for the past couple of months.

1998
01:51:59.930 --> 01:52:02.609
Well, actually, it's been a growing sentiment for decades, but

1999
01:52:02.649 --> 01:52:06.770
it's definitely coming through very loud here recently.

2000
01:52:07.350 --> 01:52:10.229
Yeah, that's something you hear in bars. But the actual

2001
01:52:10.310 --> 01:52:15.560
idea that foreign powers control the president is something that ironically,

2002
01:52:15.579 --> 01:52:19.319
I think online is mostly foreign sponsored. It's just different

2003
01:52:19.460 --> 01:52:23.100
foreign powers. I mean, like Russia, for example, obviously does

2004
01:52:23.159 --> 01:52:25.399
not control Trump, but is a big proponent of the

2005
01:52:25.479 --> 01:52:28.539
idea that Israel might, if you look at where bot

2006
01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:32.010
traffic comes from. So everyone plays these games. We similarly,

2007
01:52:32.069 --> 01:52:34.270
we back Ukraine's bot traffic against Russia.

2008
01:52:34.289 --> 01:52:35.449
Which is a debatable decision.

2009
01:52:36.050 --> 01:52:38.649
But anyway, like the things Trump has actually done, like

2010
01:52:38.770 --> 01:52:42.590
gotten rid of DEI, I think are pretty significant. So

2011
01:52:42.890 --> 01:52:45.989
it's weird that people are being distracted from a fairly

2012
01:52:46.109 --> 01:52:51.369
high-performing conservative president by this policy stuff. And I understand it,

2013
01:52:51.399 --> 01:52:52.520
but I would agree with you. I mean, I think

2014
01:52:52.539 --> 01:52:54.859
there are obviously quite a lot of Trump accomplishments.

2015
01:52:55.640 --> 01:52:56.140
Well, yeah.

2016
01:52:56.159 --> 01:52:57.920
And you sit there and, you know, I want to say, look,

2017
01:52:58.100 --> 01:53:00.819
if you hate the guy so much, then, you know,

2018
01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.399
send the money back to the government. You know, pay

2019
01:53:03.420 --> 01:53:06.510
down the debt. You know, we're looking at $ 40 trillion.

2020
01:53:06.850 --> 01:53:09.350
It's just around the corner here. And we need to

2021
01:53:09.409 --> 01:53:12.979
really focus on some, you know, clear issues, but definitely,

2022
01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.470
I mean, I, I feel for what he's trying to

2023
01:53:15.510 --> 01:53:19.010
do and Marco Rubio in terms of negotiating, uh, you know,

2024
01:53:19.069 --> 01:53:22.649
peace in the Middle East with, with an untenable foe. I,

2025
01:53:22.750 --> 01:53:26.189
I think, uh, it's almost a fool's errand to try

2026
01:53:26.229 --> 01:53:29.680
and negotiate with Iran, but, you know, bless his heart,

2027
01:53:29.909 --> 01:53:33.840
you know, he's got more patience than I do, but, um,

2028
01:53:34.399 --> 01:53:36.079
you know, that's why, I guess why he's the president

2029
01:53:36.460 --> 01:53:40.789
and I'm not, but still it's that, uh, Here he's

2030
01:53:40.829 --> 01:53:43.970
trying to do all this, and you've got people nipping

2031
01:53:44.010 --> 01:53:49.770
at his heels. The media is doing that. The Democrats,

2032
01:53:49.810 --> 01:53:52.130
of course, the people that hate Trump. It's like, wait

2033
01:53:52.170 --> 01:53:54.729
a minute. The guy's trying to negotiate peace, and you're

2034
01:53:54.770 --> 01:53:56.850
not helping here. Why don't you just shut up for

2035
01:53:56.890 --> 01:53:57.350
a while, huh?

2036
01:53:59.300 --> 01:54:00.579
I think there's some validity to that.

2037
01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:03.239
Now, obviously, of course, like Trump's a big talker and

2038
01:54:03.260 --> 01:54:05.529
he's negotiating with the Persians who are as well. So,

2039
01:54:05.550 --> 01:54:07.770
I mean, like the joke is that the war's ended

2040
01:54:07.770 --> 01:54:10.310
120 times already. So, I mean, after a while, like

2041
01:54:10.329 --> 01:54:13.270
you do start looking at this, like the deal's been

2042
01:54:13.289 --> 01:54:16.250
made on Hormuz and there's a headline you can generate

2043
01:54:16.289 --> 01:54:17.029
every second day.

2044
01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:19.140
But yes, I do.

2045
01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:24.420
Obviously hope for peace. And I think that negotiating between...

2046
01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:28.420
Being the middleman between the Jewish state and Persians without

2047
01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:32.210
stereotyping as they negotiate is not the easiest job. I mean,

2048
01:54:32.229 --> 01:54:34.590
you've got some pretty good people in the room, probably.

2049
01:54:35.770 --> 01:54:39.210
So hopefully that gets done. I think that that can't

2050
01:54:39.409 --> 01:54:44.130
overshadow the overall record of the Trump administration.

2051
01:54:44.180 --> 01:54:44.560
And to me.

2052
01:54:45.689 --> 01:54:48.489
Most presidents are remembered for one thing. Like, you can

2053
01:54:48.550 --> 01:54:51.449
like Barack Obama or dislike him. I'm in the second camp.

2054
01:54:51.569 --> 01:54:56.310
But Barack Obama, Obamacare, maybe you could add kill Bin Laden,

2055
01:54:56.329 --> 01:54:58.909
although that was the SEALs, and gay marriage or right-winger

2056
01:54:58.930 --> 01:54:59.399
would throw it.

2057
01:54:59.710 --> 01:55:03.340
So he gets two or three. Trump, I mean, he.

2058
01:55:03.939 --> 01:55:06.060
Peace with North Korea, we haven't heard much from them.

2059
01:55:06.460 --> 01:55:08.739
But the big one's going to be immigration. Like, if

2060
01:55:08.819 --> 01:55:10.000
Trump actually.

2061
01:55:10.020 --> 01:55:11.859
So even.

2062
01:55:12.899 --> 01:55:15.359
Even what he's done in terms of ending TPS would

2063
01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:18.010
go on that kind of board. But if somehow an

2064
01:55:18.189 --> 01:55:22.630
actual border wall was built during this second term, I mean,

2065
01:55:22.689 --> 01:55:25.609
Trump would go down as a Roosevelt-level president.

2066
01:55:25.649 --> 01:55:26.569
Some would view it as good.

2067
01:55:26.649 --> 01:55:28.840
Some would view it as bad. But you only get

2068
01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:32.439
a couple things. For me, immigration is the centerpiece of

2069
01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:36.960
this administration. And we forget that there's There's a choice

2070
01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:41.159
sometimes between imperfect on your side and very bad on

2071
01:55:41.199 --> 01:55:45.220
the other side. So President Biden let in about 10

2072
01:55:45.220 --> 01:55:47.899
million illegal immigrants during the course of his term. It

2073
01:55:47.920 --> 01:55:51.199
was about 2.2 million a year. That figure from Fox

2074
01:55:51.270 --> 01:55:53.020
News that people tried to debunk turned out to be

2075
01:55:53.050 --> 01:55:56.630
pretty much real. So had, say, Kamala Harris taken over,

2076
01:55:56.649 --> 01:55:59.140
that would have happened again. There would have been some

2077
01:55:59.159 --> 01:56:01.380
domestic policy pieces on health care that some people on

2078
01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:03.119
the right might have even liked, but there would have

2079
01:56:03.140 --> 01:56:05.579
been 10 more million people flowing into the USA. That

2080
01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:09.369
would have been the defining feature. So everything that Trump's

2081
01:56:09.409 --> 01:56:12.189
doing in terms of these small foreign wars, that's secondary

2082
01:56:12.250 --> 01:56:13.369
to that, in my opinion.

2083
01:56:13.909 --> 01:56:14.590
Yeah, exactly.

2084
01:56:14.789 --> 01:56:15.810
Well, we've got to leave it there for now.

2085
01:56:16.289 --> 01:56:16.529
Dr.

2086
01:56:16.550 --> 01:56:19.770
Wilford Riley, professor of political science at Kentucky State University.

2087
01:56:20.050 --> 01:56:21.090
Thank you, Will. Take care.

2088
01:56:21.109 --> 01:56:22.210
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