Aug. 27, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 08 27 26

The Bill Martinez Show 08 27 26
The Bill Martinez Show 08 27 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now, Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning, America. Six minutes after the top of

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the hour right now. Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neill

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from Landmark Legal. Hey, Mike, how you doing?

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Good.

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Good morning, Bill. Good to be with you.

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Hey, great to have you here. We've got some breaking

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news as you and I are starting to talk. the

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settlement with Meta, Mark Zuckerberg was about ready to take

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the stand and they decided, okay, let's just go ahead

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and settle this thing out.

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Yeah.

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Funny how that works, right? I mean, once you get

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into the litigation and the push comes to shove, somebody,

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a high profile individual might be forced to have to

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answer questions publicly that would be difficult and it doesn't

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seem like a high win scenario for the individual, Zuckerberg

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in this case. then you're more likely to reach some

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sort of settlement agreement. And it sounds what you're telling

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from the details you're relating to me, they sound fairly reasonable.

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Yeah, well, of course, we'll wait to see the big number.

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The thing that I struggle with, Mike, to be honest

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with you, is that the people who are injured, you know,

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get pennies on the dollar. It's the attorneys that are

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making big money on this deal. And I just think there's,

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I mean, I know you're an attorney.

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No, no, I understand the format.

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I mean, it just, to me, it just, It's bothersome.

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Yeah.

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And I think the picture here, the takeaway is the

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damage that social media has inflicted upon generations of Americans

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and generations of people, humans. I mean, I often get

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into the conversation about would we be better off without

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social media? I mean, but remove Facebook, remove Instagram, TikTok,

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whatever you want to talk it and say, get rid

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of it all. Were we better off? And I mean,

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I think when you calculate it all, obviously- X is

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an important news aggregator. It tells you what gives you

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stories that you would never have seen before. But I

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think I think you have to you have to quantify

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that with the damage that social media has inflicted. And

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certainly it's certainly substantial. I mean, you have, again, young

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people who've grown up on it, that there's all kinds

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of damage that's been done to them. And I think

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there has to be, as you're saying here, it's indicative

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of the settlement agreement. There has to be some sort

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of accountability. And it appears that that's what's happening here

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with meta Facebook.

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Well, and I think it also might be an encouragement

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and motivation for families, for parents to say, oh, that's right.

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I am the mom and dad. I can control this.

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And we've been on a bit of an experiment right

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now in schools where schools are saying, hey, look, you

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can't have access to your phone while you're in school.

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And I think that's turning out to be pretty positive,

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all things considered, right?

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Yeah, I think so. And you're seeing, at least from

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what I can discern, I'm not part of it. You're

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seeing younger generations kind of welcoming that. I mean, you

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see the pop-ups of these parties where no technology parties

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and no schools. Now schools are getting the message. No

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phones during school. It's bad enough that they all have

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to be on the computers 24-7 in schools anyway. My

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kids don't have books. I mean, my daughter's in college now,

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but throughout their entire school journey, K through 12, I

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never saw them crack a book. You know, a history book,

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an algebra book, or a math book, a science book.

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It was all on their screens. So I don't know

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if that's better. But certainly an acknowledgement that social media

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should be cast aside. You should have big blocks of

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your day where you're not subject to the deluge of

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social media. I think it's good for your emotional state

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of being. I think it's good for your brain. It's

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a win. And I think that there's the acknowledgement of that.

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Of course, you have businesses like Meta that their entire

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focus is designed to hook people on it and get

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them on it and stay on social media as long

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as possible. That's what their algorithms are designed to do.

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Not dissimilar to tobacco companies, right? It's kind of analogous

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to what get people hooked on something, design an algorithm

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designed to keep them on it, and then keep them

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on it as much as possible and then profit from it.

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So it's good that there's some accountability and some recognition

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of this. And I think you're right. Schools behoove themselves

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to ban phones throughout the school day and not allow

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their kids to have it. I think kids come out

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of the end of the school day feeling better, period.

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And it's just a good thing.

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Right.

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And like you said, the sciences and research is proving

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that too much of social media is dumbing our kids down.

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And emotionally hurting them.

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Right, exactly.

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It's intelligence, but it's emotional well-being as well. I mean,

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it's the whole, you're locked into that, the ability to

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bully people virtually, the ability, the fear of missing out.

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Why can't I hold up to this false ideal that

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is promoted on Facebook or social media? Well, how come

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I don't look like that, et cetera, et cetera? There's

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just such a bevy of problems emotionally and intellectually that

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arise when you're inundated with this sort of. you know,

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as I say, social media environment.

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Well, we'll stay on top of it and see how

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this plays out. And like I said, you know, it's

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a lot of money that's going to be there. But,

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you know, we're talking cents on the dollar to probably

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deal with the people that, you know, really were affected

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the most. And, you know, I guess maybe they look

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at it in the long run as if we can

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stop it now.

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Right.

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For future generations, maybe that's a good thing, but it's

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taken us this long to deal with it. Let's talk

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about some SCOTUS decisions. It's been an interesting week.

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Yeah, I mean, let's start with Friday. Friday afternoon, the

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decision came down about the ballroom, which was common sense.

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I mean, I think we've been talking about this before.

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It's absurd on its face that an individual whose aesthetic

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view of the East Wing of the from a preservation trust,

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who's a member of some sort of preservation trust group,

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can assert an injury in fact, which satisfies the doctrine

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of standing, which allows you to halt construction of the

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ballroom and the security apparatus beneath the East Wing, which

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is necessary for so many levels. It's necessary from a

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security level. It's necessary from a diplomatic level. And it's

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the purview of the president to decide whether there's going

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to be construction on the White House. That's historical. And

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it's absurd that it had to get to the Supreme Court,

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that it had to go through a district court and

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joined this in D.C. And then the circuit court, D.C.

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Circuit Court, which is the second highest court in the land.

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Lawyers call it the second highest court in the land.

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It really is.

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It's a pure amongst. It's the first among equals with

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the circuits. A Bennett that said, yes, the injunction can stand.

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And then it ultimately came down to six justices on

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the Supreme Court to say, look, hey, you There is

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no standing here. You don't have a cognizable claim here.

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You don't have an injury in fact, just because your

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view of the East Wing is somehow, you allege that

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your view of the East Wing is adversely affected. That's

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not enough to intrude on the power of the president

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to determine what he needs and what the presidency as

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an institution needs to ensure it functions. And again, it's

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a security issue, right? We know that drones are an

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identifiable threat in this day and age, and you can't

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have these diplomatic events on the White House lawn under

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the soft canopies of tents, right? You have the premier

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of China coming for an event and they're relegated to

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having a diplomatic event on the lawn under soft tents. Well,

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any terrorist group could just decide they want to drone

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attack it and swarm drone and destroy it. It's a

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security issue. This is indisputable. And so you have to,

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a court can't entrench on that On the deference that's

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predicated for the president of the United States on that

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and say, oh, we're going to determine we know better

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than the president about security threats to the president. That's absurd.

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And so fortunately, you know, again, it's absurd that we're

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having to have this discussion about construction of a ballroom.

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If any other person had done this, any other president

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had done this, it would have been lauded and celebrated

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and nobody would have challenged it. But of course, because

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it's Donald Trump doing it, there has to be some

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challenge because it's going to be this beautiful thing that's

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going to be existing for the next 150 years so

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everybody can enjoy. There's going to be the security apparatus

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underneath so the president can be rushed there in the

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event of a terrorist attack. It's just absurd. But again,

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the Supreme Court has to come back and be the

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adult in the room and say, hey, look, yes, we're

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going to stay the injunction. The construction can continue. Hopefully

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this will be the end of the matter. We'll see, though.

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Well, TDS runs rampant and deep. So no doubt there

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will be another iteration, whether it has to do with

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the Kennedy Center, whatever, anything that could potentially allow Donald

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Trump's name and legacy to continue beyond the next two

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years is something that keeps Democrats up late at night.

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And it's amazing the amount of you know, brain damage

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We're talking with Mike O'Neill. He's with Landmark Legal. So,

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you know, like you said, I'm with you, Michael. I

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can't wait to put this to sleep once and for all,

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but I don't think it's going to happen until Donald

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Trump's out of office.

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No, it's just this issue. It's whack-a-mole, right? It's this

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particular issue is asleep now. I mean, then there's going

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to be, there's another thing, you know? I mean, it's

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always another thing. It's always moving. Again, it's whack-a-mole. It's

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This pops up, you have to deal with it. It's

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absurd that the Supreme Court had to use its limited

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resources to rule on this case, on its base. As

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I said, 20 or 30 years ago, a district court

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would have laughed out any individual who's challenging construction on

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the White House grounds. I mean, the district court in Washington, D.C.

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would have said, no, motion to dismiss approved. We grant

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your motion to dismiss. It doesn't even pass the laugh

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test or the smell test, and yet you had judges

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who abetted this, who allowed this to occur, all this

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lunacy to occur. Similarly, again, moving on to the executive

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order regarding voting. This is the same purview. The president's

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executive order on regarding voting, he recognizes, look, he has

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limited powers under our constitution. He can't issue a new law.

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If he could, he would have issued the SAVE Act.

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He's been pushing the SAVE America Act for months and

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months and months. Congress hasn't done anything. The president says, well,

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what tools do I have? I recognize that voting, mail

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voting in particular, is insecure. Throughout the country, it's easily manipulated.

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You can commit fraud. It's a vulnerable system in how

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you execute voting, mail voting. So I'm going to decide

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what can I do to try to address the vulnerabilities

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in mail voting. I'm going to issue an executive order

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that's going to do three things. Number one, it's going

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to direct the Department of Homeland Security to compile state

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citizenship lists and give those state citizenship lists to willing

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states so that they can compare that state citizenship list

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to their voter list and say, okay, we have a

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control group here. Here's who is listed in the state

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of Virginia from the federal government. Here's our voter list.

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Do they match up? Well, if they don't match up,

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Then we're going to have to do a little investigation

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on these names on our voter list to determine whether

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they are citizens. Where's the mistake here? So maybe our

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voter rolls aren't as secure as we think they are.

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And we know they aren't as secure as we think

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they are because we see it. New Jersey admits 6,000

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people have their voter rolls.

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They admitted to 6,000, but it's like, how many more?

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I mean, to me, that was all kind of- At

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least on the face.

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So it's not speculative, right? We're not sitting here inventing

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a problem. We know legitimately that it's a problem, that

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you have non-citizens on your voter list. So we're going

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to do something that's going to help you. We're going

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to have The Department of Homeland Security compiled these state

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citizenship lists and, hey, state, if you want these lists,

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you can get access to it. And what state wouldn't

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want access to it, right? If they're committed to the

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integrity of their voting system, if they're committed to the

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fact they only want to have eligible individuals on their

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voting lists, why wouldn't they take it? But yet they, oh, no, no, no,

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this is problematic. So that's one aspect. Number two, he

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directs his Department of Justice to prioritize investigating the individuals,

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states that might allow ineligible individuals to cast mail ballots

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using the federal forms. So again, this is a directive

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to prioritize investigations. That's what he's saying. He's not saying

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target people. He's saying prioritize it to the extent permissible

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by law. So again, that's the executive authority to enforce

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and investigate laws. That's perfectly permissible. Now, the third thing

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he does, and this is the one that gets everybody

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in high dungeon as well, is he directs the U.S.

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Postal Service to issue a new rule that regarding mail voting. Now,

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what does that rule do? The rule, again, this is

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the executive order. He directed the Postal Service to issue

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a rule. He didn't issue a rule. He directed the U.S.

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Postal Service to develop and issue a rule. And that's

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what they did. They promulgated a rule. They've noticed it.

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You submit comments on it. It's finalized. It's going to

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be published in the Federal Register today. So there was

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no rule at the time this challenge was initiated, right?

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Right.

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So, of course, what happens? The usual suspects go to court,

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in front of a sympathetic judge and obtain an injunction

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to his executive order. And you're like, how can you

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enjoin an executive order you can't? Because there is no injury.

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It's the president has simply said, do something. Once you

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do something, then there's a final action that you can

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possibly challenge. Again, the USPS rule that's going to be

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published in the Federal Register today, that is an administrative action,

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a final action that's subject to challenge in a court.

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You can challenge that. Your challenge might be specious, but

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you actually have the legitimacy because there's a final action.

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You can't challenge an executive order directing administrative– Preemptively. And yet, Bill,

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here we are again, the same cast of characters. Again,

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it's a different judge, but it's up there in Massachusetts

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with the same judge who's going well beyond all of

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our Article III authority and joined this executive order. First Circuit,

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same thing, had to go to the Supreme Court. Supreme

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Court had to spend its limited resources saying no. Six

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of the justices, again, standing for common sense, saying no,

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there's no injury here because there's no final action. Nothing's

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been done. This is all within the scope of his

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Article II authority to do this. And so here we

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go again. It's the same thing. And what's even interestingly

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about this is that there's a lot of speculation that

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this Supreme Court order, or Supreme Court order was finished

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weeks and weeks ago. But it was slow rolled because

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there was a dissenting justice who wrote, and I will

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not name, a dissenting justice who wrote a 20-page dissent

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on this. And so what you get to is now

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you're pushing it back closer and closer to the election.

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Exactly, yes.

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So there's that speculation that that's occurring. But again, here

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we are. It's like you guys, every single thing he does. Now, look, again,

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there are instances where President Trump has arguably gone beyond

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his executive authority tariffs, for example, possibly, you know, you

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can make the arguable case that he was beyond he

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was over his skis with the tariffs that he didn't

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have the statutory authority. And the Supreme Court ruled accordingly.

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They concluded that he didn't, right? He lost the tariffs case. Similarly,

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birthright citizenship, right? Maybe he doesn't have the power, maybe

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he's going over his skis on this. But there are,

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the overwhelming majority of his actions are consistent with his

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power under the Constitution and statutory, and yet you have complete, again,

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cabal that's organized to undermine the authority of the president

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and by extension, undermine the authority of the American people

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because Donald Trump was elected to do what he's doing.

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Exactly.

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When does the Supreme Court have enough of this stuff

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with these activist judges and start clipping their wings? Is

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there anything that they can do?

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Well, that's the thing is they just– they do it piecemeal, right?

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They do it minimalistic. And if you read between the

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lines in this opinion, you kind of get some of

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that in it, in this 10-page opinion. There's a lot–

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they say a lot without saying a lot. And again,

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but they can only do– they can only do what's

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brought in front of them, right? And they can't unilaterally–

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I mean they can kind of. They did it with

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the Trump versus Casa thing. But that's the universal injunction case.

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But that being said, even then, there have been workarounds.

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Judges are creative. Some of these activist judges and lawyers

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are creative, right? Lawyers are smart. And the lawyers that

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are opposing all of these actions are really smart. I mean,

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they know how to– they'll pursue something like an administrative stay,

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which is something different from an injunction. They'll try to

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stay it administratively, and that's a temporary thing. So they

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did that, for example, with the commercial driver's licenses case

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when– The Department of Transportation is trying to obtain lists

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of individuals from states who have obtained commercial driver's licenses

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to determine whether those individuals have been properly vetted, right?

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We have those instances where we have the people who

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can't speak English who have these CDLs, who can't speak English,

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who haven't been vetted by California, for example, who just

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get this through fraudulent means and are committing– are getting

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in these horrible traffic accidents that we're seeing.

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Well, they're finding– and they're even finding out, Mike, that

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some of these schools– that are giving them access to

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these licenses. They're like the leering centers of Minnesota.

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Right, exactly.

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They're so fraud infected.

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The more you unwrap, and this is the bigger issue

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with this, and I think it's coming to light more

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and more. The more you delve into it and unravel

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a lot of these immigration kind of programs and system, H-1B, OPT,

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these sorts of CDLs that when you invariably, it seems

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like they're just, every single one of them is just

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propagated on fraud. And it's astounding to me. And we

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hit $ 40 trillion in debt this year. I mean, just

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recently we hit that. It's astounding to me the amount

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of grift and fraud that is rampant throughout all of

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these programs. But for the fact that you start to

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open the door and pull the curtain back and actually

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look into it a little bit. The H-1B visa system

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is rampant with fraud. The key CDL system, you know,

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to become certified as a CDL license driver. And then

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another fraudulent program, Medicare fraud. How much Social Security fraud

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is going on? We're talking about Social Security going bankrupt

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at 2034, right? Which is not going to be able

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to pay out its benefits as currently configured by 2034. Well,

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they've already removed. How many people has the Trump administration

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removed from the Social Security roles who are getting this?

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Anybody over 115 years old. You know, they had like

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thousands of people over 115 years old. So again, the

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more you pull back the curtain, the more fraud you

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see in these programs. And I think that's really the

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fear here by the institutions that have allowed this and

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abetted this fraud to propagate.

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Well, Mike, we got to leave it there. How can

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people be in touch with you?

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Yeah, landmarklegal.org. Just check out our website, Landmark Legal on

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X and Facebook. You can see a lot of the

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work we're working on. We're working on some important briefs

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on some cases coming up in the Supreme Court term

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we can talk about in the coming weeks.

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Well, without a doubt, I look forward to that. Mike

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O'Neill with Landmark Legal. Thank you, Michael. Take care.

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Thanks, Bill.

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Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here with Jenny Beth Martin

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from the Tea Party Patriots Action. Hey, Jenny Beth, good

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morning to you.

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Good morning, Bill.

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Well, the clock is running. Every day we're closer and

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closer to the midterms. You know, and you, I tell you,

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I had an old mentor who said, sometimes you have

529
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to be thankful for your competition. And the Republicans, in

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spite of not really helping their cause in many ways,

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can be thankful that the Democrats are just disassembling before

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our eyes and wanting to convince America that we should

533
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move towards socialism. Full stop.

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Yeah, they are really on a hard, hard left lurch

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right now. And I think that it's good that we're

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seeing some of the true colors of what they intend

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to do to the country, what their goals are, especially

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with the Democratic Socialists of America who want to abolish

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the Senate, abolish the Supreme Court, abolish the presidency and

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put the presidency underneath the Congress. It spanned the House

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of Representatives. Pack the Supreme Court or get rid of

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it altogether. Increase taxes. Take property away from people. Have

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local supermarkets and grocery stores that are controlled by the government.

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It's going to be like COVID lockdowns on steroids if

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they gain control. And then some people will say, well,

546
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that's just a Democratic Socialist. It's not the whole Democratic Party.

547
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The problem is the Democratic Party is not distancing itself

548
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from that. They're saying they have a big tent, that

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their tent is big enough to allow that kind of

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nonsensical thinking into it, the kind of thinking that will

551
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utterly destroy and upend our constitutional government. Talking about getting

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rid of two and a half branches of government completely,

553
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basically abolishes the Constitution. And there's no room in either

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party's tent for that. They are sworn in to uphold

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the Constitution, not to say, well, we'll allow people who

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want to get rid of it and get rid of

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the basic primary tenets of the Constitution in our tent.

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It's just not acceptable. This past weekend, Senator Chris Van

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Hollen was on, I think it was on Meet the Press,

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and he was asked about it. And he said, basically,

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this is what he said. Well, I don't really support

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what they say, but our party's big enough to allow

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them into the party and then asked if he would

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reject an endorsement from them. No, I would not reject

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an endorsement from them, but I'm not asking for an

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endorsement either. They want to play with both ends. I

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don't think it's going to fly with the American people,

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but we still have a lot of work to do

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over the next 69 days to make sure we're shining

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a light on that to the voters.

571
00:30:15.890 --> 00:30:17.690
Well, you know, the thing is we have to be

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careful about, and that is let's not lose sight of

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the wins that we've had in the last two years.

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Got a lot of wins, a lot of positive things

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to talk about. And you can get distracted and spend

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a lot of time talking about what they're proposing, as

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crazy as it is. But I think you need to

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be able to do that in less than 60 seconds

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in a very powerful, direct sort of way because of

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the outlandish things that they're suggesting. It's incompatible with the Constitution.

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That's basically what you're saying. It doesn't square up. And even,

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you know, with the interview that Jesse had on Fox

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with El-Sayed, I mean, it was just like it was

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just so well, like you said, on one hand, it

585
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was very revealing. I mean, they laid their cards out.

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And and then the other stuff was just kind of

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a dodge. And I think Jesse was trying to do

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as much as he can. But, you know, it's not

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like they're going to I mean, they they're admitting a

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lot already. But it's up to the American people to

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have enough discernment to say, really, do you is this

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the direction that you want your country to go in?

593
00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:22.849
Yeah, you're exactly right. So what what do we have

594
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that's different? Well, we have a completely sealed border. Our

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border is secure. Less than two years ago, people were

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flooding into our country illegally. That kind of flooding into

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the country prevented vetting of the people who were coming

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into the country. And we wound up with deaths like

599
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the death of Lake and Riley. So we've secured the border.

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We've also reduced violent crime to the lowest rates. In,

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I think it's 90 years, we've less violent crime happening

602
00:31:52.549 --> 00:31:55.509
right now in America than at any time, basically in

603
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our lifetime. We've cut taxes. We had the largest tax

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cut in history that went into effect with the one big,

605
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.940
beautiful bill. They actually cut spending. Now, I want more

606
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spending cuts, but they cut spending when it comes to waste, fraud,

607
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and abuse, or lying, stealing, and cheating of our tax dollars,

608
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however you want to call it. They have cut... that

609
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it made it much more difficult to fraudulently take our

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00:32:21.190 --> 00:32:24.319
tax dollars from the federal government and use them in

611
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:31.140
an illegal manner. prices are not as low as we

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00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:33.930
want them to be. And I acknowledge that. I also

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00:32:33.970 --> 00:32:38.589
understand inflation has stalled and slowed down tremendously. It is

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not increasing the way that it was increasing in the

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previous administration. And the economy is beginning to grow. So

616
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.599
that is a good thing. It's going to take a

617
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while to get out of the hole that both COVID,

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the lockdowns, I guess more than just both, but that COVID,

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the lockdowns and the Biden administration caused. It's going to

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take longer than 18 to 20 months to get out

621
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of that. But we are, we've slowed it down. And

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if we continue in this trajectory with the economy, things

623
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.539
will continue to improve over the next few years.

624
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:18.619
Well, you imagine if the Democrats are to control any

625
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:23.980
part of Congress, whether it's the House or Senate or

626
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.990
even both, uh, all this comes to a stall because

627
00:33:28.069 --> 00:33:31.730
remember what happened in the first administration with, with Donald Trump,

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as soon as the Democrats could get in a position

629
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of power and they took full advantage of COVID, they

630
00:33:36.890 --> 00:33:40.069
did everything they could to interfere because they didn't care

631
00:33:40.130 --> 00:33:43.779
about the American people. They didn't care. Clearly they didn't, uh,

632
00:33:43.990 --> 00:33:46.500
you know, on so many levels. I mean, in terms

633
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of the number of American people that died because of

634
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the pandemic and their regulations, but all the other stuff,

635
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the inflation, uh, You know, the Inflation Act that Joe

636
00:33:58.410 --> 00:34:01.490
Biden and the Democrats passed. And then afterwards, they kind

637
00:34:01.509 --> 00:34:03.190
of laughed about it and said, oh, well, you know,

638
00:34:03.210 --> 00:34:05.049
I guess it didn't do much for inflation. Just like

639
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the same thing when Obama had those shovel ready jobs

640
00:34:07.769 --> 00:34:08.550
and laughed about that.

641
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Or Obamacare.

642
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:10.320
Yeah, right.

643
00:34:10.389 --> 00:34:10.800
Exactly.

644
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The Unaffordable Health Care Act.

645
00:34:12.750 --> 00:34:12.969
Right.

646
00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:13.469
Exactly.

647
00:34:13.750 --> 00:34:15.769
So on and on. And we have been dealing, I

648
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say we, the American people, had to deal with this.

649
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.420
And this has all had an impact on affordability, along

650
00:34:21.460 --> 00:34:23.940
with all the fraud, waste and corruption that you brought

651
00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:27.219
attention to that, you know, Elon Musk easily said going

652
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in when he first looked at it, I think we

653
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.840
can find easily a trillion dollars worth of fraud. He

654
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.159
could barely get up to 200 billion before the Democrats

655
00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:37.239
were causing all kinds of problem and did everything they

656
00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:38.969
could to darn feather the guy out of D.C.

657
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.280
Yeah, that is exactly right. I think his number was

658
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.469
spot on. And I think that history is going to

659
00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:48.750
show that he was correct about it. He they they

660
00:34:48.789 --> 00:34:50.809
did do everything they could to tar and feather him

661
00:34:50.829 --> 00:34:53.000
and get him out of D.C. But thankfully, we've got

662
00:34:53.420 --> 00:34:57.579
Nick Shirley, who has shined the light on the fraud case.

663
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Just the absolute theft of tax dollars. That's what it is.

664
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It's stealing our tax dollars. And he's shining a light

665
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.059
on that in Minnesota, in California, and in other states

666
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:13.280
across the country. I'm very thankful for that. You're right

667
00:35:13.389 --> 00:35:17.030
when we see what the Democrats talk about. They will

668
00:35:17.170 --> 00:35:20.949
use nice words, but the words... they're describing for the

669
00:35:21.010 --> 00:35:24.789
legislation they're passing usually never go into effect. It's a

670
00:35:24.869 --> 00:35:29.219
lofty goal that we get the exact 180 degree opposite

671
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.360
of what they say they're going to do. And if

672
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they get control again, our votes in 2024, if you

673
00:35:37.099 --> 00:35:40.389
voted for Trump in 2024 and you don't vote for

674
00:35:40.469 --> 00:35:45.239
Republicans this year for Congress and Senate, You're basically canceling

675
00:35:45.539 --> 00:35:48.440
the vote that you did in 2024. And we are

676
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:54.369
going to wind up with investigations and impeachments and more

677
00:35:54.670 --> 00:35:58.789
slowing down. The economy will not continue to improve. It

678
00:35:59.030 --> 00:36:02.429
will go backwards and we will be in worse, much

679
00:36:02.530 --> 00:36:05.510
worse shape in the next 24 months than we are

680
00:36:05.590 --> 00:36:09.619
right now. It The Democrats want to destroy and replace

681
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.000
our form of government. And one of the ways to

682
00:36:13.050 --> 00:36:16.909
do that is to make everyone so miserable that everyone

683
00:36:16.949 --> 00:36:19.429
wants to replace it. And I don't want that. I

684
00:36:19.590 --> 00:36:21.929
love our government and I'll do everything I can to

685
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hold on to it.

686
00:36:22.989 --> 00:36:24.289
Well, look where we are right now, Jane.

687
00:36:24.309 --> 00:36:28.079
I love our country and our constitution, not necessarily the government.

688
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:28.619
Right.

689
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:30.960
Yeah, no, I'm with you on that. But, you know,

690
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.500
look at the trajectory that we're on and what Donald

691
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.099
Trump is doing for the country. I mean, we've got, what,

692
00:36:36.099 --> 00:36:40.010
$ 19 trillion of foreign investment coming into the country. What's

693
00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:42.530
going on with AI and how the mainstream media and

694
00:36:42.550 --> 00:36:45.030
these other people are talking about these data centers? And

695
00:36:45.050 --> 00:36:48.170
Trump's going, wait a minute, you guys are mal-informed. You're

696
00:36:48.210 --> 00:36:50.489
not understanding what's going on and how these are going

697
00:36:50.510 --> 00:36:52.460
to be set up. I mean, these are going to

698
00:36:52.500 --> 00:36:56.119
be engines for, you know, future prosperity and job creation.

699
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.800
And what are the Democrats offering, Jenny Beth? 20 seconds left.

700
00:36:59.820 --> 00:37:00.079
Go ahead.

701
00:37:00.670 --> 00:37:04.349
The Democrats are offering just stalling. It would be like

702
00:37:04.610 --> 00:37:07.769
if you had said we don't want to have automobiles

703
00:37:07.869 --> 00:37:11.690
when cars were coming online. That's what's happening. Imagine our

704
00:37:11.730 --> 00:37:16.280
world without cars or the Internet or phones. The data

705
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.239
companies definitely need to find a way to do this

706
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.900
so they're not disrupting entire communities. And I think there's

707
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a way to balance what local communities want and the

708
00:37:27.380 --> 00:37:29.639
progress that we're going to see with technology.

709
00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:32.059
Well, at least you got something on the table to

710
00:37:32.139 --> 00:37:32.900
talk about.

711
00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:37.000
President Trump is saying they have to create their own

712
00:37:37.739 --> 00:37:41.579
energy source and any extra energy that they produce goes

713
00:37:41.659 --> 00:37:44.090
back onto the grid for everyone to use, but they

714
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.730
can't take energy off the grid for themselves.

715
00:37:47.369 --> 00:37:49.150
When have you ever heard the Democrats coming up with

716
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anything close to an idea like that, Jenny Beth?

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Hey, good morning. Welcome back. Bill Martinez here. We've got

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Jeremy Beck from Numbers USA.

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Mr.

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Jeremy, how are we doing?

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All right, Mr.

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Bill.

795
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Good to be here.

796
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Well, I'll tell you, I like what J.D. Vance had

797
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to say. We want companies that buy American, hire American,

798
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and then invest in American communities. What a novel concept here, huh?

799
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.139
Yeah, it's more than a slogan.

800
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It's an actual philosophy, and it's one that we.

801
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Really should embrace.

802
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You know, we say it here all the time. We

803
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want an immigration policy. Americans generally like immigration, but they

804
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want it managed in the American interest. That's all that

805
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he's saying right here is let's have an immigration policy

806
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that works for American workers.

807
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That's not what we have right now. I think everybody

808
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knows that.

809
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And it's good on him for turning the attention to

810
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the legal system, which is much bigger than the illegal

811
00:43:00.940 --> 00:43:04.340
system that we have. The illegal immigration problem is one

812
00:43:04.380 --> 00:43:05.719
that's been with us for a long time.

813
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It's important. Enforcement is important. But when you're.

814
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Talking about really transforming American life and the way that

815
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.000
immigration policy plays into it, you've got to look at

816
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.219
the legal system that Congress has set up. And what

817
00:43:18.260 --> 00:43:22.429
he's talking about, specifically, he's talking about non-immigrant worker programs

818
00:43:22.469 --> 00:43:23.829
like the H-1B program.

819
00:43:24.289 --> 00:43:24.670
But J.D.

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Vance is pretty consistently now for several years talked about

821
00:43:28.460 --> 00:43:30.679
the broader concept. What is it that we want our

822
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.179
immigration system to do? And I would say that we've

823
00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:38.130
got our own vision, Numbers USA. There's a bill in

824
00:43:38.190 --> 00:43:42.610
Congress called the Americans First Immigration Act that does just

825
00:43:42.650 --> 00:43:45.769
what Vance is talking about. It gives us an intentional

826
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system so that we get to choose who comes into

827
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the country, and we choose based on the country's needs,

828
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our needs, and first and foremost, on the needs of

829
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the American worker.

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Jeremy, is it possible to have an honest conversation about this?

831
00:43:59.710 --> 00:44:02.510
Because it seems that anything that has to do with

832
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immigration is mired because of the opposing interest. I mean,

833
00:44:06.739 --> 00:44:11.739
it's a mixed agenda, as opposed to just that line

834
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that I read earlier that J.D. Vance said when he

835
00:44:14.780 --> 00:44:17.960
was speaking in Maine about companies that buy American, hire American,

836
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invest in American communities. I mean, that should be the ethos,

837
00:44:21.179 --> 00:44:25.800
the basic foundational principle of a positive immigration program, shouldn't it?

838
00:44:26.849 --> 00:44:28.730
Well, you raise a good point because a lot of

839
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people who are sitting in my chair, we often fall

840
00:44:30.869 --> 00:44:33.269
into the trap. There's so much to complain about. There's

841
00:44:33.289 --> 00:44:35.750
so much that's gone wrong that we focus on the negatives.

842
00:44:35.769 --> 00:44:38.139
We focus on what we don't want, what we don't like.

843
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And we need to do a better job of saying

844
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what we do want and what we do like. I

845
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think Vance is demonstrating how that can be done.

846
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As you say, hire American, buy American. These are positive things.

847
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And we should be able to have this conversation because

848
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We need to put forward a vision that says this

849
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is the immigration system that we want. We're not anti-immigration.

850
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.639
We want to have an immigration system that works. I'm

851
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going to borrow from the late Barbara Jordan, who said

852
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.699
immigration is not a right. It's a privilege, and it's

853
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granted to those we choose to admit. That's another ethos

854
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that you could put right next to J.D.

855
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:16.880
Vance's.

856
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.320
Barbara Jordan also said there's many Americans who are still

857
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struggling to find adequate job prospects. And we should make

858
00:45:25.389 --> 00:45:30.019
their task easier to find employment, not harder. That's what

859
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.380
immigration policy can do. We can manage immigration policy in

860
00:45:33.420 --> 00:45:36.440
a way that still prioritizes the American worker.

861
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:38.320
That's what we should all be fighting for.

862
00:45:38.940 --> 00:45:42.199
Right. And you shouldn't have it controlled by a party

863
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.070
for a single party interest that says we want immigration

864
00:45:46.429 --> 00:45:48.989
so that we can create more people that will vote

865
00:45:49.030 --> 00:45:49.750
for our party.

866
00:45:50.750 --> 00:45:50.929
Right.

867
00:45:51.130 --> 00:45:53.630
We need to talk about what we want immigration policy

868
00:45:53.670 --> 00:45:57.030
to do. Do we want immigration just for immigration's sake?

869
00:45:57.110 --> 00:46:00.809
Is it immigration forever? More is always better. Are there

870
00:46:00.909 --> 00:46:04.389
any limits at all? What goals are we trying to

871
00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:08.840
achieve here? People talk about labor gaps. Well, a real

872
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.820
labor gap has tremendous value. If there's a true gap

873
00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:17.119
in labor, then that labor is, by definition, extremely valuable.

874
00:46:18.179 --> 00:46:20.500
If an immigration system is truly filling a labor gap,

875
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:22.039
that immigration should have.

876
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:23.860
A top dollar attached to it.

877
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:26.500
And one of the things the administration is doing right

878
00:46:26.539 --> 00:46:31.119
now is they're proposing another fee on the H-1B program.

879
00:46:31.139 --> 00:46:33.840
This is a little bit different than what the administration,

880
00:46:33.860 --> 00:46:36.159
what the president did in his proclamation last year.

881
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:38.219
And it basically just says.

882
00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:42.369
If these are truly exceptional workers that you can't find

883
00:46:42.510 --> 00:46:45.650
anywhere in America, you're going to pay a fee to

884
00:46:45.670 --> 00:46:49.630
the government. in order to get this application through. And

885
00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:52.010
it's a very steep fee. It's over a hundred thousand dollars.

886
00:46:52.409 --> 00:46:54.329
And we'll see if this thing moves forward.

887
00:46:54.369 --> 00:46:56.130
This time around, it's going to go through a public

888
00:46:56.170 --> 00:46:59.489
comment period, and we're going to be helping people leave

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their public comments at numbersusa.org. You can go and subscribe

890
00:47:02.949 --> 00:47:05.570
and we'll direct you there when it's time to leave

891
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those comments. But these are the kinds of things we

892
00:47:08.010 --> 00:47:11.510
should be talking about is if we want an immigration

893
00:47:11.550 --> 00:47:15.090
system that actually works, then we need to create it

894
00:47:15.170 --> 00:47:15.909
to do those things.

895
00:47:15.949 --> 00:47:17.650
Right now, the immigration system.

896
00:47:17.750 --> 00:47:24.190
Is more built around keeping wages down and helping corporations

897
00:47:24.210 --> 00:47:28.150
and their stockholders keep the total cost of labor down. Now,

898
00:47:28.170 --> 00:47:30.670
that benefits some Americans, but it really is to the

899
00:47:30.730 --> 00:47:33.090
detriment of many, many more Americans.

900
00:47:33.590 --> 00:47:36.309
Well, what do you think that $ 100, 000 figure would do?

901
00:47:36.429 --> 00:47:40.130
Would it promote? I would think that corporations would say,

902
00:47:40.630 --> 00:47:43.780
we've got to go. We could use that $ 100, 000. and

903
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:48.480
either train somebody here and a citizen already here, unless

904
00:47:48.539 --> 00:47:51.159
it's some sort of an emergency, or even if we

905
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:55.239
have to bring somebody from outside. I mean, they're committed.

906
00:47:55.489 --> 00:48:01.130
They're vested $ 100, 000 just to begin with. And I got

907
00:48:01.210 --> 00:48:03.329
to think they're going to be a little bit more

908
00:48:04.409 --> 00:48:07.150
selective about the person that comes into our country, don't

909
00:48:07.170 --> 00:48:07.469
you think?

910
00:48:07.969 --> 00:48:10.309
Well, that would be the hope, for sure. Now, there's

911
00:48:10.730 --> 00:48:11.130
what we need.

912
00:48:11.369 --> 00:48:14.530
What I know is that George Borjas, the renowned economist,

913
00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:19.019
and this is cited in the federal proposal itself, is

914
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.639
that over the six-year term of a typical H-1B visa,

915
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:27.840
an employer saves over $ 100, 000 using the H-1B program than

916
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.940
hiring an American worker. This really just levels the playing field.

917
00:48:32.019 --> 00:48:32.440
Exactly.

918
00:48:34.179 --> 00:48:35.579
To your point, it's true.

919
00:48:35.619 --> 00:48:38.440
They may still end up saving money on the H-1B

920
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.699
worker than the American worker. But it's a lot of

921
00:48:40.780 --> 00:48:43.940
upfront cost and it's a little bit more hassle. And

922
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.460
maybe there's going to be a little bit more incentive

923
00:48:46.860 --> 00:48:49.690
to go out and hire the American because it's just

924
00:48:49.730 --> 00:48:52.130
not worth the extra money up front and the extra hassle.

925
00:48:53.590 --> 00:48:54.289
That would be the hope.

926
00:48:54.489 --> 00:48:57.849
Now, again, my organization, I keep banging this drum and

927
00:48:57.889 --> 00:49:00.610
I keep doing it. Even if this rule goes through,

928
00:49:00.889 --> 00:49:03.619
and we hope that it does, we're going to need

929
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:06.960
legislation to actually bake in the real reforms that we

930
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:11.010
need to reform this program. At the end of the day,

931
00:49:11.170 --> 00:49:15.780
we shouldn't have any visa program, any non-immigrant foreign worker

932
00:49:15.820 --> 00:49:19.969
guest worker program that gives employers discounts for not hiring Americans.

933
00:49:20.420 --> 00:49:22.639
That's another ethos I think we should just build into

934
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.480
the immigration policy. Immigration should not give American employers discounts

935
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.059
for not hiring American workers.

936
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:30.639
Exactly.

937
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:33.539
Let's do that. Let's start there.

938
00:49:33.579 --> 00:49:38.500
Let's combine these things, the Barbara Jordan ethos The J.D.

939
00:49:38.539 --> 00:49:41.440
Vance ethos and then, you know, we call the Numbers

940
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.300
USA ethos, which is you should not be giving discounts

941
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:45.780
to not hire Americans.

942
00:49:46.389 --> 00:49:46.550
Yeah.

943
00:49:46.650 --> 00:49:49.309
I mean, you've got to incentivize the right behavior and

944
00:49:49.329 --> 00:49:52.269
the right outcomes. We've been doing just the opposite because

945
00:49:52.309 --> 00:49:53.929
I think it goes back to what I said earlier,

946
00:49:54.409 --> 00:49:58.730
is that you have, you know, the agenda on the right, which,

947
00:49:59.489 --> 00:50:02.820
you know, I believe is more fair minded versus that

948
00:50:02.940 --> 00:50:05.980
on the left. You know, the right. The agenda on

949
00:50:06.019 --> 00:50:09.440
the right is to promote positive immigration that serves. Are

950
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.760
there some, you know, things that are deviant? Yes, I

951
00:50:12.820 --> 00:50:15.920
believe that's the case. It's not all perfect on the right.

952
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.139
But on the left, clearly, they want immigration. They look

953
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.090
at it as a resource for voters. And so that

954
00:50:24.130 --> 00:50:28.690
doesn't comport with a positive, you know, immigration program, in

955
00:50:28.750 --> 00:50:29.610
my humble opinions.

956
00:50:31.380 --> 00:50:32.599
I think that's completely fair.

957
00:50:32.659 --> 00:50:35.139
And we should be having that debate out there in

958
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.139
the public. Politicians should be asked, what is it that

959
00:50:38.179 --> 00:50:40.110
you think immigration is supposed to do?

960
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:41.599
Right.

961
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:43.489
And of course, a lot of the people who say, well,

962
00:50:43.530 --> 00:50:46.170
I really want this this new stream of voters coming in,

963
00:50:46.210 --> 00:50:49.010
they're unlikely to actually say that, although in some cases

964
00:50:49.110 --> 00:50:49.510
they do.

965
00:50:50.610 --> 00:50:51.949
But you might hear the DSA.

966
00:50:51.989 --> 00:50:54.210
The DSA would be more prone to say that because

967
00:50:54.550 --> 00:50:57.139
they're they're just you know, they've taken off all the

968
00:50:57.469 --> 00:50:59.940
you know, all the handcuffs and they're telling you exactly

969
00:50:59.980 --> 00:51:00.940
what they want to do now.

970
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:01.159
Right.

971
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.500
Several years ago, there was an effort by some in

972
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.159
the environmental movement that basically said that, said we need

973
00:51:08.179 --> 00:51:11.909
to replace American voters with these new immigrant voters because

974
00:51:12.369 --> 00:51:16.090
the new immigrants particularly, and they cited specifically places like Mexico,

975
00:51:17.570 --> 00:51:20.449
were more environmentally conscious and minded than the average American.

976
00:51:20.489 --> 00:51:23.909
So it was basically a replacement theory just right there

977
00:51:23.969 --> 00:51:27.739
out there in the open over one particular issue. But

978
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.909
you'll hear all kinds of things. And many of them

979
00:51:30.929 --> 00:51:33.969
have merit. Do we do we like diversity? Do we

980
00:51:34.010 --> 00:51:36.989
like things like that? And the question always has to

981
00:51:37.030 --> 00:51:38.840
be how many and which ones.

982
00:51:38.980 --> 00:51:41.380
Right. Those are the two main questions of immigration policy.

983
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:45.059
And you'll find that people who tend to be expansionists

984
00:51:45.219 --> 00:51:47.579
and not really want to talk about those things, they never,

985
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:49.159
ever want to answer that question.

986
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.400
How many? What's your limit? But you're right, Bill.

987
00:51:52.420 --> 00:51:53.860
We need to just get back to some of the

988
00:51:53.929 --> 00:51:55.969
other basics, which is what do we want this to

989
00:51:56.010 --> 00:51:57.630
do and who do we want it to benefit?

990
00:51:58.429 --> 00:52:01.630
Well, and I love the propaganda suggesting that Mexicans are

991
00:52:01.670 --> 00:52:05.179
more environmentally sensitive. When was the last time you went

992
00:52:05.219 --> 00:52:05.760
to Mexico?

993
00:52:07.300 --> 00:52:08.639
It's been a while. I was a kid when I

994
00:52:08.659 --> 00:52:09.079
was last time.

995
00:52:09.099 --> 00:52:15.829
Well, yeah, but it's like environmentalism in Mexico. They don't comport.

996
00:52:17.570 --> 00:52:19.409
Most of the Mexicans, they don't care about that. They're

997
00:52:19.429 --> 00:52:24.000
caring about survival. They're not caring about the environment. There's

998
00:52:24.059 --> 00:52:31.010
no indication that I can see that Mexico is pro-environment

999
00:52:31.340 --> 00:52:36.949
and interested in conservation. That's a total ruse. We got

1000
00:52:36.969 --> 00:52:39.849
about a little over a minute left. The Democratic National

1001
00:52:39.889 --> 00:52:43.730
Committee in your latest newsletter approved a resolution. They want

1002
00:52:43.750 --> 00:52:49.050
to abolish ICE and detention and release migrant detainees. What

1003
00:52:49.070 --> 00:52:50.269
a brilliant idea here, right?

1004
00:52:52.469 --> 00:52:55.289
It's amazing to me how short people's attention spans are,

1005
00:52:55.409 --> 00:52:58.409
or at least how short the DSA thinks people's attention

1006
00:52:58.449 --> 00:53:01.719
spans are. Did we not just try this a couple

1007
00:53:01.739 --> 00:53:05.579
of years ago in a more modest way? I mean,

1008
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.619
this is probably the only time I'm ever going to

1009
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:11.219
say that the border crisis was a modest phenomenon, but

1010
00:53:11.460 --> 00:53:14.719
compared to what the DSA is proposing here or what

1011
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:18.389
the Democratic National Committee approved in this resolution, the border

1012
00:53:18.409 --> 00:53:21.949
crisis would be considered some kind of moderate immigration policy.

1013
00:53:22.269 --> 00:53:25.849
You're talking about abolishing detention, releasing people who are in

1014
00:53:25.889 --> 00:53:29.550
the country illegally, and then ultimately doing away with the

1015
00:53:29.610 --> 00:53:30.570
borders altogether.

1016
00:53:31.489 --> 00:53:33.530
We'll see how it plays out there.

1017
00:53:33.750 --> 00:53:36.650
And again, I think the question has to be, what

1018
00:53:36.690 --> 00:53:38.550
is this going to do for American workers? And the

1019
00:53:39.010 --> 00:53:41.280
irony here, this is a whole other segment that I'd

1020
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:43.340
love to talk about sometime. But in the last few

1021
00:53:43.380 --> 00:53:47.949
seconds here, you know, There's a Democratic Socialist Party in Denmark,

1022
00:53:48.090 --> 00:53:50.699
and they've been winning a lot of elections. They are

1023
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:56.739
completely immigration restrictionist. Their pro-worker plan recognizes borders. They say

1024
00:53:56.780 --> 00:54:00.460
we've got to limit immigration to help the workers of Denmark.

1025
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:05.449
The Democratic Socialists of America are a far cry from that,

1026
00:54:05.570 --> 00:54:07.630
and it's a really interesting contrast to look at.

1027
00:54:08.150 --> 00:54:10.019
Okay, let's talk about it next time we get together.

1028
00:54:10.300 --> 00:54:13.320
Jeremy Beck is the co-president of Numbers USA, the website

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1030
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Getting america back on track bill martinez live hey good.

1051
00:55:34.780 --> 00:55:36.940
Morning america six minutes have topped the hour right now

1052
00:55:36.980 --> 00:55:39.840
and we've got to nils grevilleas who joined us he

1053
00:55:39.949 --> 00:55:42.349
is the crime expert author and u.s army vet who

1054
00:55:42.369 --> 00:55:46.349
completed three tours in korea with the dmz service how

1055
00:55:46.369 --> 00:55:49.480
much fun was that on the dmz Well.

1056
00:55:50.179 --> 00:55:53.579
Let me tell you, Mr. Martinez, it was just a

1057
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.780
garden spot. I wish I could spend every summer on

1058
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:57.519
the DMC.

1059
00:55:58.050 --> 00:55:58.429
Wow.

1060
00:55:59.170 --> 00:56:01.130
It was one of those places where we had.

1061
00:56:01.070 --> 00:56:04.889
Bunkers dug into the top of the guard posts, which

1062
00:56:04.909 --> 00:56:08.869
were like small fire bases in the DMC. And the

1063
00:56:08.929 --> 00:56:12.400
bunk bed posts, there were a few bunk beds that

1064
00:56:12.460 --> 00:56:14.460
had to be shared, of course, like you're in the

1065
00:56:14.500 --> 00:56:15.360
Navy or something.

1066
00:56:16.699 --> 00:56:19.050
But the footing of the bunk bed was set into

1067
00:56:19.090 --> 00:56:22.250
a C-ration can filled with diesel fuel to keep the

1068
00:56:22.309 --> 00:56:26.670
bed bugs from joining you in the bed. And the

1069
00:56:26.769 --> 00:56:30.590
medics came through every three days spraying lindane powder everywhere

1070
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.679
to kill, you know, crabs, crab lice, bed bugs, cockroaches,

1071
00:56:35.739 --> 00:56:39.440
anything else that you could enjoy in a summer on

1072
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.460
the DMZ. I mean, that's just the spacious and glorious

1073
00:56:43.539 --> 00:56:44.530
living quarters there.

1074
00:56:45.139 --> 00:56:47.980
Well, exactly. I mean, wow. I mean, it sounds like

1075
00:56:48.019 --> 00:56:49.340
a five-star experience.

1076
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:54.219
Well, thankfully, we never had any five stars visiting us

1077
00:56:54.340 --> 00:56:56.610
up there. Let me tell you something. If we just

1078
00:56:56.650 --> 00:57:00.590
had a one-star visit us, we were doing what some

1079
00:57:00.630 --> 00:57:05.630
guys called a jump-through-the-butt drill to make that which was

1080
00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:10.639
ugly and dirty and moldy look spectacular and bright and shiny.

1081
00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:13.360
Right, like they were going to do some sort of,

1082
00:57:13.889 --> 00:57:16.750
semi-formal inspection in those kinds of conditions, right?

1083
00:57:17.670 --> 00:57:18.750
Right, exactly.

1084
00:57:20.090 --> 00:57:23.869
How come these men don't look all perky and up

1085
00:57:23.949 --> 00:57:24.869
for it, you know?

1086
00:57:26.909 --> 00:57:29.610
And they look rather chewed up by all the bugs

1087
00:57:29.630 --> 00:57:33.750
that are flying around there. But we digress. Hey, the

1088
00:57:33.909 --> 00:57:38.369
big story that's captured the attention in so many ways

1089
00:57:38.429 --> 00:57:44.469
of America is this Lindsay Clancy case, Nils. I mean,

1090
00:57:44.550 --> 00:57:47.309
this is, your heart is so broken over this in

1091
00:57:47.369 --> 00:57:50.090
so many ways. It's hard to get your brain around it.

1092
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:56.719
Well, postpartum depression is a real thing and nobody should

1093
00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:00.619
discount that. I was a bit skeptical about it some

1094
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.909
years ago, but a friend of mine's wife endured this,

1095
00:58:04.969 --> 00:58:07.389
not with their first child, but with their second. And

1096
00:58:07.429 --> 00:58:09.750
it took her a couple of months to get over it. But, uh,

1097
00:58:10.659 --> 00:58:13.639
That doesn't excuse her behavior. She knew what she was

1098
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:18.119
doing was wrong. And the way that she demonstrates her

1099
00:58:18.219 --> 00:58:21.199
knowledge of this is by sending her husband out for

1100
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.440
an errand while she murders the children.

1101
00:58:23.940 --> 00:58:24.199
Right.

1102
00:58:24.889 --> 00:58:28.010
Well, not to mention the fact that post-murder, then she

1103
00:58:28.050 --> 00:58:30.510
goes to commit suicide herself, right?

1104
00:58:31.389 --> 00:58:36.769
That's cognizance of guilt and crushing depression. She is entitled

1105
00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:40.539
to compassion, but she must face justice.

1106
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:46.039
Well, and it's amazing, the way they've laid this out,

1107
00:58:46.699 --> 00:58:51.179
the medication she was on, even her attempts, her many attempts,

1108
00:58:52.059 --> 00:58:54.239
crying out for help, whether it was to her mother

1109
00:58:54.420 --> 00:58:58.679
or to these institutions. I mean, she was institutionalized for

1110
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:04.090
a short period of time. But, you know, just obviously

1111
00:59:04.130 --> 00:59:07.230
it didn't connect. And here it is. We've lost three

1112
00:59:07.269 --> 00:59:08.230
kids in the process.

1113
00:59:09.070 --> 00:59:09.289
Right.

1114
00:59:09.389 --> 00:59:11.829
And now we have a copycat killer, a woman up

1115
00:59:11.929 --> 00:59:14.389
in South Dakota who killed two of her children and

1116
00:59:14.409 --> 00:59:15.530
tried to murder the third.

1117
00:59:15.550 --> 00:59:16.389
Yeah.

1118
00:59:16.730 --> 00:59:19.030
And bragged to her husband that she was going to

1119
00:59:19.070 --> 00:59:19.360
do it.

1120
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.519
What is going on, Nils? I mean, our society is

1121
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:29.869
really unhinged. I mean, this isn't. normal fare. I mean,

1122
00:59:29.929 --> 00:59:31.690
it just seems like you said, here it is, we've

1123
00:59:31.710 --> 00:59:35.969
got a copycat situation. You know, yes, we're talking on

1124
00:59:36.110 --> 00:59:41.280
one hand that homicide numbers are down, but still, you know,

1125
00:59:41.300 --> 00:59:42.599
a homicide's a homicide.

1126
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:49.409
I agree. And there's some pretty radical people who want

1127
00:59:49.429 --> 00:59:52.429
to portray this as a men versus women issue, that

1128
00:59:52.489 --> 00:59:55.750
sort of thing, as if there's that greater difference between

1129
00:59:55.789 --> 00:59:59.050
the needs of American men and the needs of American women.

1130
01:00:01.349 --> 01:00:05.610
We have to sacrifice for our families when we become parents,

1131
01:00:06.349 --> 01:00:10.349
become a mother, become a father. we all lose some

1132
01:00:10.389 --> 01:00:14.090
of the freedom that we had, but growth comes with

1133
01:00:14.150 --> 01:00:18.110
that loss. That's when people cross over from childhood into

1134
01:00:18.170 --> 01:00:20.349
adulthood is when they raise their own children.

1135
01:00:20.949 --> 01:00:23.650
Yeah, without a doubt. And it almost seems that this

1136
01:00:24.130 --> 01:00:29.329
generation is ill-prepared to enter into that phase because it's been,

1137
01:00:29.349 --> 01:00:32.829
you know, performance trophies. It's, oh, don't let them go

1138
01:00:32.929 --> 01:00:34.880
outside because they might get a boo-boo, right?

1139
01:00:34.889 --> 01:00:40.429
Right, well. All of this, I think, arises of the

1140
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:44.840
early baby boom. There was some ridiculous doctor named Dr.

1141
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.679
Spock who had this book on how to raise your

1142
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:53.829
children as liberal tofu eaters or something like that that

1143
01:00:53.869 --> 01:00:58.409
was published in the early 60s, and it became the

1144
01:00:58.510 --> 01:01:05.090
model for all of the psychobabble pediatric advice given to

1145
01:01:05.130 --> 01:01:08.559
middle class families all over North America, that sort of thing.

1146
01:01:09.219 --> 01:01:12.340
I'm deeply skeptical. I mean, since man crawled out of

1147
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:19.349
the primordial ooze and started reproducing instead of as dividing cells, amoebas,

1148
01:01:19.710 --> 01:01:23.389
et cetera, people have known how to feed their children,

1149
01:01:23.550 --> 01:01:27.510
care for their children, protect their children from saber tooth tigers,

1150
01:01:27.530 --> 01:01:30.960
everything else. But this all seems to be lost on

1151
01:01:31.019 --> 01:01:31.920
these people, Bill.

1152
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:36.320
Well, they've been given a lot more attention as opposed to,

1153
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:40.400
like you say, Those families and those, you know, healthy,

1154
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.280
rooted families that are doing a good job, you know,

1155
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:46.219
that have sacrificed for the kids, that have a legacy

1156
01:01:46.260 --> 01:01:49.099
to talk about, that, you know, what it meant for

1157
01:01:49.139 --> 01:01:53.119
them to raise their families, you know, marriages that have

1158
01:01:53.340 --> 01:01:57.219
lasted for decades, as opposed to this, you know, kind

1159
01:01:57.260 --> 01:02:01.719
of depository throwaway, you know, family or marriages that exist

1160
01:02:01.739 --> 01:02:02.659
today in America.

1161
01:02:03.539 --> 01:02:05.699
Well, I think it's a spiritual problem, Bill.

1162
01:02:05.739 --> 01:02:06.420
Yeah, I do, too.

1163
01:02:07.269 --> 01:02:07.469
Right.

1164
01:02:08.150 --> 01:02:10.130
Yeah, I know a lot of people are hesitant to

1165
01:02:10.190 --> 01:02:12.489
talk about it, but we, you know, we freely talk

1166
01:02:12.550 --> 01:02:15.769
about it because I believe that's the root, the root

1167
01:02:15.789 --> 01:02:18.489
of all evil. You know, when you turn from God,

1168
01:02:19.750 --> 01:02:21.750
you know, a simple thing, you know, you say, okay, well,

1169
01:02:21.769 --> 01:02:23.829
I'm not going to, I don't want the Ten Commandments

1170
01:02:23.869 --> 01:02:26.489
in my classroom. Well, look what happened to the classroom

1171
01:02:26.530 --> 01:02:29.269
since the mid-60s when you take the Ten Commandments out

1172
01:02:29.289 --> 01:02:32.710
of there. I mean, now this idea of morality and,

1173
01:02:33.030 --> 01:02:36.170
you know, the knowledge of what's right and wrong is

1174
01:02:36.489 --> 01:02:37.809
has gotten hazy nails.

1175
01:02:38.730 --> 01:02:43.269
Well, yes, you and I agree. I recall the last

1176
01:02:43.349 --> 01:02:46.719
time a teacher led us in prayer in public school

1177
01:02:47.739 --> 01:02:53.380
was when Apollo 13 mission blew up in outer space

1178
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:56.800
and our teacher didn't hesitate to lead us in prayer.

1179
01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:00.019
She was a woman in her 30s, and I didn't

1180
01:03:00.139 --> 01:03:04.900
know her to be overtly a Christian or whatever, But

1181
01:03:04.980 --> 01:03:08.920
she asked that everybody and led the prayer. She was

1182
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:12.079
risking her career by doing so, even at that time.

1183
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.619
I was going to say, I mean, today, there's no

1184
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:16.420
way you could do it.

1185
01:03:18.099 --> 01:03:21.849
Well, some people would just do it anyway. You know,

1186
01:03:22.329 --> 01:03:25.969
I know a guy down from Orange County, a character

1187
01:03:25.989 --> 01:03:28.849
named Bill Martinez. He was a Marine, that sort of thing.

1188
01:03:29.190 --> 01:03:31.650
I bet if Bill Martinez was a teacher, a coach

1189
01:03:31.710 --> 01:03:35.909
or whatever... He'd just do it and let them try.

1190
01:03:36.170 --> 01:03:37.610
Let them try. Come at me, right?

1191
01:03:38.110 --> 01:03:40.170
Right, exactly. You know that Bill Martinez.

1192
01:03:40.190 --> 01:03:41.449
This is the line of departure right here.

1193
01:03:41.469 --> 01:03:44.130
You know that man too well, Nils. You know him

1194
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too well. But, yeah, it's, you know, when you think

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about where we are right now and all that's happening,

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Well, I mean, why destroy the WNBA brand with a

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little truth? I mean, what is their brand?

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Yeah.

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You know, performative entertainment for clunky lesbians. I mean, come on.

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female athletes to the league and everybody... Everybody blows a

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crime expert, author, U.S.

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Army vet.

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Yeah, this is one of those things that, you know,

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01:08:54.350 --> 01:08:56.289
you keep thinking, okay, it's run its course.

1286
01:09:19.470 --> 01:09:23.630
But it just keeps on coming. And as you said,

1287
01:09:24.909 --> 01:09:29.109
you know, the WNBA here, they're making more money than

1288
01:09:29.130 --> 01:09:34.500
they've made. And as we know, you know, rising tides

1289
01:09:35.300 --> 01:09:40.439
raises all boats. These other women that are participating as

1290
01:09:40.539 --> 01:09:43.159
players have got to be making more money, have a

1291
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:45.840
greater opportunity. It's kind of like when Michael Jordan came

1292
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:47.930
on the scene, right? And they saw that money was

1293
01:09:47.970 --> 01:09:49.939
being paid. And what it said, said, whoa, look at,

1294
01:09:51.029 --> 01:09:53.350
you know, that seedlings open up. I can make that

1295
01:09:53.409 --> 01:09:54.510
kind of money too, right?

1296
01:09:56.229 --> 01:09:59.300
I think that's correct. What would they do with prosperity?

1297
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:03.859
This is a little bit like some big corporate conglomerate

1298
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buys a TV news outfit like CBS. And suddenly the

1299
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people at CBS are horrified that the suits want them

1300
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to turn a profit. I mean, we're so, you know,

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we're so great. How could we possibly be involved in profit,

1302
01:10:18.949 --> 01:10:21.590
filthy profit, that sort of thing, right?

1303
01:10:22.229 --> 01:10:25.210
Yeah. I mean, how dare you? I mean, expect to

1304
01:10:25.250 --> 01:10:29.140
go and cash your check and actually, you know, appreciate

1305
01:10:29.149 --> 01:10:34.579
that the bank's going to honor it, right? Yeah. Well,

1306
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:37.579
it's so, there's no question, so absurd, and especially with

1307
01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:41.529
the influence these days of socialism and and the message

1308
01:10:41.550 --> 01:10:44.399
that's being put out there, Nils, and what I will,

1309
01:10:44.500 --> 01:10:47.000
I will hand it to the socialists. I mean, at

1310
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least they're being more honest than the rest of the Democrats, right?

1311
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:56.390
Yeah, well, they're feeling their oats. This is their grand moment.

1312
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They went on several car dates with the Democrats over

1313
01:10:59.949 --> 01:11:03.189
the last 30, 40, 50 years, and the Democrats would

1314
01:11:03.229 --> 01:11:06.529
never get around to, you know, doing what happens on

1315
01:11:06.609 --> 01:11:10.250
a car date. Well, you can only tease the communists

1316
01:11:11.090 --> 01:11:15.649
for so long before they sort of take matters into hand, right?

1317
01:11:15.670 --> 01:11:17.670
And that's what's happening. So they're in a civil war

1318
01:11:17.710 --> 01:11:18.510
here right now.

1319
01:11:19.210 --> 01:11:21.949
Well, what do you think, Nils? I mean, here we are.

1320
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We're about 69 days and counting before the midterms. Of course,

1321
01:11:28.289 --> 01:11:31.229
you already got some early voting going on. And of course,

1322
01:11:31.250 --> 01:11:33.270
the Democrats want to get that early voting in as

1323
01:11:33.310 --> 01:11:36.779
quickly as possible before Trump signs another executive order to

1324
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:39.840
do something that makes sense in terms of protecting the

1325
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:41.819
integrity of the voting process, right?

1326
01:11:42.510 --> 01:11:47.409
Well, you saw what the Supreme Court did yesterday. I mean,

1327
01:11:47.489 --> 01:11:51.189
that's an extinction-level event for a lot of Democrats. I mean,

1328
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how dare you take away our ability to stuff the

1329
01:11:54.130 --> 01:11:57.560
ballot box? I mean, how are all those cartoon characters,

1330
01:11:57.619 --> 01:12:00.720
house pets, illegal aliens, and dead bodies going to make

1331
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:03.899
it to the polls? With a situation like this, Bill,

1332
01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:05.579
I'm most perturbed.

1333
01:12:06.420 --> 01:12:10.439
Well, exactly. Well, Elise Stefanik said it out loud. You know,

1334
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she just said, look, if the voter ID, if the

1335
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SAVE Act was to pass, we could never get another

1336
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Democrat elected. I mean, she actually said that, Nils. I mean,

1337
01:12:22.590 --> 01:12:25.569
so what does that tell you? Well, you know.

1338
01:12:26.649 --> 01:12:29.710
They rarely risk any honesty. She probably didn't know that

1339
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the microphone was hot or something like that. Maybe somebody

1340
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hacked the microphone. You remember when Joy Reid's Twitter account

1341
01:12:37.420 --> 01:12:40.899
got hijacked 12 years ago? Somebody got on there and

1342
01:12:40.939 --> 01:12:43.960
spewed all sorts of things about gay people and that

1343
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:47.930
sort of thing. Poor Joy Reid with her hacked Twitter account.

1344
01:12:47.970 --> 01:12:52.029
She managed to stay on MSNBC for another five years.

1345
01:12:52.670 --> 01:12:56.590
Right, exactly. Well, it's almost like, you know, things like that. And, oh,

1346
01:12:56.609 --> 01:12:59.279
the other deal, too, here. I couldn't believe this deal.

1347
01:13:00.100 --> 01:13:01.920
And I didn't see the whole... I only heard little

1348
01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:04.960
pieces of it. And it was an interview of Jimmy

1349
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Kimmel and his wife, and they were talking about... I

1350
01:13:09.270 --> 01:13:14.880
guess their son had asked their dad if, uh, you know, why,

1351
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why president Trump didn't like him or, uh, why he

1352
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:21.479
tried to fire him, you know, kind of really brings,

1353
01:13:21.739 --> 01:13:24.159
they brought, you know, the son brought into it instead

1354
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:27.909
of telling it, the kid, what actually happened in that

1355
01:13:28.010 --> 01:13:31.350
incident that Jimmy Kimmel had said something rather irreverent and

1356
01:13:31.409 --> 01:13:35.430
pretty stupid about the murder of Charlie Kirk. And it was, uh,

1357
01:13:36.100 --> 01:13:38.520
You know, it was the company themselves. It was ABC

1358
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.359
that said, hey, we need to put you on timeout.

1359
01:13:41.739 --> 01:13:44.960
Had very little to do. You know, like President Trump

1360
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.460
made that phone call. Are you kidding me?

1361
01:13:47.850 --> 01:13:48.689
Well, OK.

1362
01:13:48.729 --> 01:13:53.510
So when did the left hesitate to censor us? You know,

1363
01:13:53.529 --> 01:13:57.149
they just passed the Stop Nick Shirley Act here in California.

1364
01:13:57.170 --> 01:13:58.050
Exactly right.

1365
01:13:58.270 --> 01:14:01.680
I can't wait for some citizen journalist like Nick Shirley

1366
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:05.170
to be brought up on felony charges. so that Gavin

1367
01:14:05.210 --> 01:14:08.909
Newsom can be grabbed by the stacking swivel and pile

1368
01:14:08.970 --> 01:14:10.369
driven into the manure heap.

1369
01:14:11.189 --> 01:14:14.520
Well, he did it with Dave Daleiden. Remember, years ago,

1370
01:14:14.609 --> 01:14:19.100
and David had caught Planned Parenthood selling baby parts. Oh, yeah,

1371
01:14:19.140 --> 01:14:21.699
by the way, which is illegal. They don't go to jail.

1372
01:14:21.739 --> 01:14:24.260
He goes to jail. And I think his legal fees

1373
01:14:24.340 --> 01:14:27.180
were over, you know, a half million dollars.

1374
01:14:29.609 --> 01:14:34.170
Well, as long as there is no clear immediate sanction

1375
01:14:34.229 --> 01:14:36.800
for a willful violation of the civil rights of an

1376
01:14:36.850 --> 01:14:42.380
American citizen, then that American citizen's rights are theoretical rather

1377
01:14:42.420 --> 01:14:43.380
than actual, David.

1378
01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:43.960
Right.

1379
01:14:44.539 --> 01:14:48.699
Well, let me ask you this. We mentioned your experience

1380
01:14:48.939 --> 01:14:52.279
in North Korea, and it would appear that Trump is

1381
01:14:52.340 --> 01:14:56.479
trying to make nice with Kim Jong-un, and Kim Jong-un

1382
01:14:56.520 --> 01:15:00.159
takes that as a as kind of a pass to

1383
01:15:00.189 --> 01:15:04.630
start firing missiles again. And the U.S. and South Korea

1384
01:15:04.649 --> 01:15:10.439
decide to, you know, abbreviate their training program. You know,

1385
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.399
so Kim Jong-un's got to, you know, bang his chest

1386
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:16.880
a little bit, act like all that, you know.

1387
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:20.220
I know exactly what the man is doing. He's He's

1388
01:15:20.300 --> 01:15:23.619
putting on a great big ugly show to shake everybody

1389
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:28.539
down for more food aid. The North Korean GDP is

1390
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:34.760
precursor chemicals for methamphetamine, scud missiles, and AK-47s, okay? That's

1391
01:15:34.779 --> 01:15:38.060
their entire GDP right there. They don't make or produce

1392
01:15:38.229 --> 01:15:42.909
anything else. I think only 6% of the land in

1393
01:15:42.970 --> 01:15:46.189
North Korea is arable for farming. All of the agricultural

1394
01:15:46.229 --> 01:15:48.829
land in Korea is in the south, pretty much. So-

1395
01:15:49.689 --> 01:15:52.829
I get what Kim Jong-un is doing. The other thing

1396
01:15:52.890 --> 01:15:55.619
I see Donald Trump doing is putting the South Korean

1397
01:15:55.659 --> 01:15:59.819
leftists running the blue house in Korea now on the

1398
01:15:59.859 --> 01:16:03.649
spot of, you know, you can make nice with us,

1399
01:16:04.770 --> 01:16:07.210
Or you can make nice with your neighbors to the north.

1400
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You better figure it out, pal. You know, we lost 38,000 Americans,

1401
01:16:11.850 --> 01:16:16.260
killed in action 1950 to 1953 to make it so

1402
01:16:16.300 --> 01:16:19.079
that you can, you know, 98% of your country has

1403
01:16:19.140 --> 01:16:23.619
a high-speed internet connection and you can, you know, gang

1404
01:16:23.659 --> 01:16:28.909
dance to K-pop or whatever. That's great. You're a free country, right?

1405
01:16:29.229 --> 01:16:30.949
Don't forget who helped you out here.

1406
01:16:30.970 --> 01:16:31.850
Right, exactly.

1407
01:16:31.949 --> 01:16:34.260
Exactly. And that seems to be the order of the day,

1408
01:16:34.619 --> 01:16:38.500
which Trump has been very vocal about. And it's and,

1409
01:16:38.739 --> 01:16:40.319
you know, the rest of America is saying, well, it's

1410
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:43.439
about time. I mean, what we've done to help these people.

1411
01:16:43.460 --> 01:16:46.310
I mean, even Canada. I mean, Canada is being ornery and,

1412
01:16:46.489 --> 01:16:49.130
you know, and weird right now. So it's like, OK, well,

1413
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you know, we got a tariff for you.

1414
01:16:51.789 --> 01:16:52.550
Well, exactly.

1415
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And then.

1416
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:57.100
American leftists are like, oh my God, Canada's our oldest ally.

1417
01:16:57.220 --> 01:17:00.810
It's garbage, okay? The Canadians have been getting a free ride.

1418
01:17:00.819 --> 01:17:04.670
And Donald Trump is correct. They want all the benefits

1419
01:17:04.750 --> 01:17:12.250
of being like our northern industrial suburb without having to

1420
01:17:12.310 --> 01:17:13.310
pay their fair share.

1421
01:17:15.189 --> 01:17:18.770
Well, and meanwhile, they've been cozying up for decades with

1422
01:17:18.810 --> 01:17:22.239
the Chinese and So, you know, it's like, oh, okay,

1423
01:17:22.260 --> 01:17:25.319
so we need to be bedfellows with Canada, right?

1424
01:17:26.460 --> 01:17:29.800
And they're importing the jihad, you know, by the plane

1425
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:33.289
load every day. They're bringing people in from Pakistan and,

1426
01:17:33.710 --> 01:17:39.069
you know, jihadistan and everything else and giving them every

1427
01:17:39.130 --> 01:17:42.770
single benefit and right, that sort of thing. They're breathing

1428
01:17:42.850 --> 01:17:46.050
a problem up there that's going to destroy Canada eventually,

1429
01:17:46.090 --> 01:17:47.449
like Belgium's going under.

1430
01:17:47.789 --> 01:17:48.210
Right, exactly.

1431
01:17:48.229 --> 01:17:48.609
Exactly.

1432
01:17:49.090 --> 01:17:50.710
Well, we got about a minute left. I want to

1433
01:17:50.729 --> 01:17:54.159
wrap things up with no guacamole for you right now, huh?

1434
01:17:54.500 --> 01:17:55.460
What the heck's going on here?

1435
01:17:56.100 --> 01:18:00.000
How dare those cartel men try to heist the guacamole situation?

1436
01:18:00.020 --> 01:18:03.770
You know, the last time I saw anybody arrested in

1437
01:18:03.850 --> 01:18:08.430
California for stealing an agricultural crop, it was a couple

1438
01:18:08.449 --> 01:18:12.890
of guys who decided to invade an Azusa farm. avocado

1439
01:18:12.949 --> 01:18:16.939
grove and heist part of the crop. Well, they wound

1440
01:18:17.020 --> 01:18:19.220
up in irons for that. That's a felony.

1441
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:20.119
Yeah.

1442
01:18:20.220 --> 01:18:23.159
I mean, you can't go around taking away our guacamole,

1443
01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:26.359
especially on the eve of football season, getting ready to break.

1444
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:29.060
What's football season without guacamole, Nils?

1445
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:31.260
Well, precisely and exactly.

1446
01:18:31.300 --> 01:18:33.970
And the stuff they sell in a tube, a can,

1447
01:18:34.010 --> 01:18:37.250
a bottle, et cetera, is not guacamole. I don't know

1448
01:18:37.649 --> 01:18:40.850
who needs to hear this, but that's That's God's honest

1449
01:18:40.890 --> 01:18:41.989
truth right there, Ben.

1450
01:18:42.170 --> 01:18:45.779
I'll tell you, I think it's an idea from the socialists.

1451
01:18:45.859 --> 01:18:48.369
It has to be, right? It has to be, right.

1452
01:18:48.390 --> 01:18:49.149
There's no way.

1453
01:18:50.380 --> 01:18:52.460
No way. I saw that in some store the other day.

1454
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:55.300
I went out and said a prayer.

1455
01:18:58.659 --> 01:19:00.060
I wish I'd have been there with you. I'd be

1456
01:19:00.100 --> 01:19:02.920
burning Novena candles with you, I'm telling you. Well, we

1457
01:19:02.939 --> 01:19:05.779
got to leave it there. Nils, as always, it's always

1458
01:19:05.819 --> 01:19:08.319
a lot of fun. He's a crime expert, author of

1459
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:11.590
The Last Lawman, and a U.S. Army vet. Nils Gravelius.

1460
01:19:11.890 --> 01:19:12.869
Thank you, Nils. Take care.

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Enjoy a lovely day, Mr. Martinez, and try to stay

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Hey, good morning. Welcome back. For more information on the show,

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you can check it out at BillMartinezLive.com. We're going to

1519
01:22:58.229 --> 01:23:00.329
be talking with Dr. Julie Grillo in just a moment,

1520
01:23:00.649 --> 01:23:06.050
talking about the pending NIH funding cuts. The question is,

1521
01:23:06.449 --> 01:23:10.010
could this have an effect on our fight against cancer?

1522
01:23:10.010 --> 01:23:13.069
18 million people in the United States are alive today

1523
01:23:13.109 --> 01:23:16.000
after a cancer diagnosis. And most of them can trace

1524
01:23:16.039 --> 01:23:20.260
their survival back to a discovery born from federally funded research.

1525
01:23:20.300 --> 01:23:24.359
That funding built the mammogram technology that catches breast cancer early,

1526
01:23:24.859 --> 01:23:29.439
the immunotherapies now saving patients with advanced melanoma, and the

1527
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:32.859
treatments that turn a childhood leukemia diagnosis from a likely

1528
01:23:32.970 --> 01:23:35.949
death sentence into a fight. Nine out of 10 kids

1529
01:23:36.050 --> 01:23:39.949
now win. Now that progress is now coming into question.

1530
01:23:40.369 --> 01:23:42.529
And Dr. Julie Graylow is here to tell us more

1531
01:23:42.590 --> 01:23:44.770
about it. Dr. Graylow, welcome to the show. Good morning

1532
01:23:44.810 --> 01:23:45.069
to you.

1533
01:23:46.510 --> 01:23:48.069
Good morning. Thanks for having me, Bill.

1534
01:23:48.649 --> 01:23:51.529
Well, a lot is hanging in the balance here, as

1535
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:52.800
we just outlined, right?

1536
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:57.039
There's a lot going on. It is the time of

1537
01:23:57.100 --> 01:24:02.340
year when we plan the 2027 budget. So there's lots

1538
01:24:02.779 --> 01:24:06.699
of discussions going on about how we fund our country

1539
01:24:06.770 --> 01:24:10.739
in general. And one piece of it is the funding

1540
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:13.359
for the National Institutes of Health, and one of those

1541
01:24:13.460 --> 01:24:17.550
institutes in particular, the National Cancer Institute, and that's what

1542
01:24:17.590 --> 01:24:22.109
we're talking about. This year, the president has called for

1543
01:24:22.170 --> 01:24:25.609
a $ 5 billion cut to NIH funding. That would be

1544
01:24:25.670 --> 01:24:30.039
about a 12% cut. Now, last year, the presidential budget

1545
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:35.420
asked for a 70% cut, and Congress came together and

1546
01:24:35.500 --> 01:24:37.220
did not make that cut.

1547
01:24:37.340 --> 01:24:37.979
They believe.

1548
01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:41.810
in the importance of doing this kind of research. And

1549
01:24:42.029 --> 01:24:45.050
actually the National Cancer Institute got a small increase, not

1550
01:24:45.109 --> 01:24:47.729
enough to keep up with inflation, but a small increase.

1551
01:24:47.789 --> 01:24:51.449
So proving this is a bipartisan issue that both sides

1552
01:24:51.489 --> 01:24:59.460
of the aisle want. better treatments, better prevention, better survivorship

1553
01:24:59.539 --> 01:25:03.260
in cancer. So we're hoping that doesn't get achieved. But

1554
01:25:03.300 --> 01:25:06.279
we're competing with a pot of money for a lot

1555
01:25:06.300 --> 01:25:09.359
of other things, too. So it's not clear where we're

1556
01:25:09.380 --> 01:25:12.579
going to end up. And the fiscal year starts October 1st.

1557
01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:15.859
So lots to do in a short period of time here.

1558
01:25:15.890 --> 01:25:18.649
And of course, a little bit frustrating when you realize

1559
01:25:18.689 --> 01:25:21.310
that the Senate is on vacation for five weeks. We

1560
01:25:21.329 --> 01:25:25.760
need them doing their business and passing these bills. So

1561
01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:28.199
we need to be stressing about it. But the American

1562
01:25:28.229 --> 01:25:30.149
people need to be aware of this. And I appreciate

1563
01:25:30.170 --> 01:25:33.130
you coming on because, you know, look, this is a

1564
01:25:33.149 --> 01:25:35.289
government of, for, by, we, the people. And we need

1565
01:25:35.329 --> 01:25:37.399
to make sure our voices are heard on this particular

1566
01:25:37.420 --> 01:25:40.439
issue because they have until, as you say, September 30th

1567
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:43.180
to finalize federal funding for this fiscal year 2027, right?

1568
01:25:45.850 --> 01:25:50.489
Absolutely. It's highly likely, given the election cycle and the

1569
01:25:50.550 --> 01:25:53.140
current summer recess and all that, they'll do a continuing

1570
01:25:53.180 --> 01:25:55.979
resolution and then deal with it by the end of

1571
01:25:56.020 --> 01:25:59.340
the year, hopefully not leading to another government shutdown. But

1572
01:25:59.460 --> 01:26:02.600
now is the time to be talking to your congresspeople

1573
01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:07.699
about how important this funding is. We are already losing

1574
01:26:07.859 --> 01:26:12.060
some of the next generation of researchers in cancer because

1575
01:26:12.340 --> 01:26:15.420
there have been some cuts already and they're afraid there

1576
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:17.699
will be more and that they will not have funding

1577
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:21.140
if they go into this field. They're going into other areas,

1578
01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:22.760
which are more stable right now.

1579
01:26:22.779 --> 01:26:23.579
Right.

1580
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:24.739
And you can't blame them for that.

1581
01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:25.560
Dr.

1582
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:29.510
Julie Graylow, she's the executive vice president, chief medical officer

1583
01:26:29.550 --> 01:26:33.550
of the American Society of Clinical Oncology. So how much

1584
01:26:33.590 --> 01:26:37.050
of the progress that we've seen in cancer advancement trace back?

1585
01:26:37.270 --> 01:26:39.350
I outlined a little bit of this, but there's so

1586
01:26:39.409 --> 01:26:42.750
much more that traces back to federally funded research, right?

1587
01:26:44.609 --> 01:26:47.770
Absolutely. I mean, the federally funded research, part of it

1588
01:26:47.909 --> 01:26:51.939
is in the basic science lab, just looking at cancer cells,

1589
01:26:52.260 --> 01:26:55.840
figuring out what genes and proteins at a very basic

1590
01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:58.779
level are being turned on and turned off that shouldn't

1591
01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.460
be and that lead to to their ability to grow

1592
01:27:01.720 --> 01:27:04.470
out of control and to spread through the body despite

1593
01:27:04.949 --> 01:27:08.470
our body's immune system and other ways that we shut

1594
01:27:08.510 --> 01:27:12.390
it down. It's been estimated that more than 90%, I

1595
01:27:12.409 --> 01:27:18.489
think a 2023 analysis showed that 99% of new drug

1596
01:27:18.529 --> 01:27:24.939
approvals from the FDA between 2010 and 2019 started with

1597
01:27:24.979 --> 01:27:29.300
that basic science in the laboratory research that was funded

1598
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:33.470
by the NIH. There's also certain types of clinical trials

1599
01:27:33.869 --> 01:27:38.670
that industry would not be involved in sponsoring. Trials in

1600
01:27:38.729 --> 01:27:43.050
very rare cancers, of which pediatric cancer is rare. There

1601
01:27:43.090 --> 01:27:44.909
just aren't a lot of people where you wouldn't make

1602
01:27:44.949 --> 01:27:46.449
a lot of money if you had a new drug.

1603
01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:50.420
So those tend to be federally funded trials looking at

1604
01:27:50.500 --> 01:27:55.659
comparing to therapies or deescalating treatment. Now that we've got

1605
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:59.659
such great survivalship in certain types of cancer, do we

1606
01:27:59.699 --> 01:28:02.800
really need everything we're doing? Can we back off, cause

1607
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:06.439
less long-term toxicity? Those are the kinds of trials and

1608
01:28:06.500 --> 01:28:11.100
prevention trials, you know, prevention trials and screening trials where

1609
01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:14.789
you don't have an industry that's going to make money

1610
01:28:14.909 --> 01:28:17.850
off of something ultimately. So we've got to invest in

1611
01:28:17.890 --> 01:28:20.470
this because it can have a major impact for our patients.

1612
01:28:21.029 --> 01:28:23.840
Yeah. Speaking of which, what about the impact for patients

1613
01:28:23.859 --> 01:28:24.880
that are being treated now?

1614
01:28:26.750 --> 01:28:31.100
Well, we have major national clinical trial, we call them

1615
01:28:31.180 --> 01:28:35.100
cooperative groups, that have hundreds of sites across the country

1616
01:28:35.140 --> 01:28:39.270
where we do some of these huge, big, randomized trials

1617
01:28:39.609 --> 01:28:43.079
that industry would not be interested in doing, would not

1618
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:47.850
have an investment in. And those trials across those cooperative

1619
01:28:47.890 --> 01:28:52.829
groups have been at major risk of shutting down for

1620
01:28:52.869 --> 01:28:56.270
a patient. who has run out of kind of classic

1621
01:28:56.350 --> 01:29:00.680
approved treatment options for their cancer. These trials are what

1622
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:04.260
offer some hope that there's something new on the horizon

1623
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:08.079
that would be of benefit to them and to those

1624
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:11.350
who follow them based on outcomes of that research. So

1625
01:29:11.390 --> 01:29:15.470
clinical trials, which are a great hope for a lot

1626
01:29:15.510 --> 01:29:19.710
of these patients, are slowed, they're shut down, we have

1627
01:29:19.770 --> 01:29:23.859
less of them. And there's less hope that we will

1628
01:29:23.899 --> 01:29:27.899
have our next big hit, our next big improvement down

1629
01:29:27.939 --> 01:29:28.359
the line.

1630
01:29:29.140 --> 01:29:33.039
Well, no doubt the clinical trials have been so instrumental

1631
01:29:33.619 --> 01:29:39.819
in cancer death rates dropping by a third since the 60s.

1632
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:42.850
And so we're putting this in jeopardy, right?

1633
01:29:44.710 --> 01:29:48.829
Absolutely. The U.S. has been a powerhouse. We've been a

1634
01:29:48.890 --> 01:29:52.840
major driver in all of this research. and all of

1635
01:29:52.899 --> 01:29:58.920
the great outcomes that have resulted. But we still don't

1636
01:29:59.060 --> 01:30:02.689
have a cure for everyone. We need to keep going.

1637
01:30:03.149 --> 01:30:07.909
We've got a lot of real great innovation and interesting ideas,

1638
01:30:08.050 --> 01:30:10.649
and they need to be tested and played out so

1639
01:30:10.689 --> 01:30:14.380
we can have the winners available for our patients.

1640
01:30:15.020 --> 01:30:17.420
So what do you think it'll do with this survival

1641
01:30:17.460 --> 01:30:20.340
rate number? Right now, we're at 69%, which is incredible.

1642
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:23.979
I mean, this is something that, you know, during my

1643
01:30:24.020 --> 01:30:28.649
years of growing up, you know, cancer was an immediate

1644
01:30:28.659 --> 01:30:31.949
death sentence. But more and more, we're hearing a lot

1645
01:30:31.989 --> 01:30:34.510
of success, you know, which backs up what you're saying.

1646
01:30:35.130 --> 01:30:37.310
And to, you know, consider that we're now standing at

1647
01:30:37.310 --> 01:30:42.300
69% and these other offerings, they're waiting to be developed.

1648
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:47.439
That number, we could be 70, 80%, if I'm hearing

1649
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:48.100
you correctly.

1650
01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:54.520
Well, ultimately, we'd hope, and our ASCO vision is a

1651
01:30:54.539 --> 01:30:57.779
world where cancer is either prevented in the first place

1652
01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:00.699
or cured, and every survivor is healthy. You bring up

1653
01:31:01.020 --> 01:31:05.420
five years survival for breast cancer. I was a breast

1654
01:31:05.460 --> 01:31:09.680
cancer doc for decades. That jumped from 75% to 91%

1655
01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:11.119
now in the U.S.

1656
01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:12.260
Wow, that's huge.

1657
01:31:12.579 --> 01:31:16.779
Menostatic melanoma, that's a skin cancer, an aggressive skin cancer.

1658
01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:20.279
It was 10% back a few decades ago. It's now

1659
01:31:20.510 --> 01:31:24.869
over 50% and climbing. And childhood leukemia, you've already brought up.

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Survival a couple decades ago was 10%. It's now 90%.

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So we need to keep going because none of it's

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100% yet. We still tragically have people dying of cancer,

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even with access to all the best screening and treatments.

1664
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So we need to keep that momentum going, and we're

1665
01:31:44.979 --> 01:31:47.140
at risk of having it stall out.

1666
01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:49.359
Yeah, it's got to be a bit frustrating when you

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01:31:49.380 --> 01:31:51.979
see this kind of progress and a potential cut of

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01:31:51.979 --> 01:31:55.640
12% at a time when we really need to stay

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focused and keep moving forward, right?

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Absolutely. We've got the momentum, and we can't. let it

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01:32:03.739 --> 01:32:07.989
drop right now. We all know someone who's been impacted

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by cancer and understand what a terrible disease it is.

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We have a lot of great ideas that will get

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stalled if we don't keep funding the research that get

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it into trials that then ultimately get it into our patients.

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Well, being a cancer survivor myself, I have a lot

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of understanding and appreciation for what Dr. Graylow and others,

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you know, have been doing on our behalf.

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Dr.

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Julie Graylow, the Executive Vice President, Chief Medical Officer of

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the American Society of Clinical Oncology. As we wrap things up, Dr. Graylow,

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remind everybody where they can go for more information.

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If you want some information to talk to your Congress people,

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go to asco.org slash save research. That's A-S-C-O dot O-R-G

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Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here, along with Nick Kangadas

1767
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from MRC.

1768
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Mr.

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Nick, how are we doing?

1770
01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:23.520
Good.

1771
01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:24.180
How are you, Bill?

1772
01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:28.960
Hey, I'm doing wonderful. Looking forward to the next potential

1773
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:33.619
winners of the worst, quote, candidates. But before we do that,

1774
01:37:33.979 --> 01:37:38.350
just do a recap of last week's winners. Do you

1775
01:37:38.369 --> 01:37:39.010
have that to mind?

1776
01:37:39.899 --> 01:37:40.359
I don't.

1777
01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:42.439
I'm just kind of throwing that right at you at

1778
01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:45.310
the last minute. I apologize. But I know that we

1779
01:37:45.350 --> 01:37:51.329
had we had Kristen Welker and Jim Acosta, the infamous

1780
01:37:51.409 --> 01:37:54.130
always got to have Jim in there. And of course, Rosie,

1781
01:37:54.430 --> 01:37:57.430
we had, you know, she's back, you know, doing Kimmel.

1782
01:37:58.149 --> 01:38:00.609
And I saw something and I didn't get a chance

1783
01:38:00.649 --> 01:38:02.850
to read it on what her ratings. Did you happen

1784
01:38:02.869 --> 01:38:05.710
to check, see what her ratings were on the Kimmel show?

1785
01:38:06.109 --> 01:38:08.569
I have not seen her ratings, but I can't assume

1786
01:38:08.590 --> 01:38:11.390
it would be too much better. Or I mean, I

1787
01:38:11.390 --> 01:38:13.810
can't assume it would be too much better than what

1788
01:38:13.899 --> 01:38:17.399
Jimmy Kimmel does. He had that initial bump when he

1789
01:38:17.439 --> 01:38:20.729
got kicked off and then came back because he was the,

1790
01:38:20.899 --> 01:38:24.130
you know, everybody was talking about him, but, uh, I

1791
01:38:24.189 --> 01:38:27.760
can't imagine there's too many people outside of typical The

1792
01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:31.000
View viewers who would watch Rosie O'Donnell.

1793
01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:33.479
Well, I would think most of The View viewers would

1794
01:38:33.500 --> 01:38:34.680
be asleep by then, right?

1795
01:38:35.659 --> 01:38:37.359
Well, they've got to wake up and watch The View.

1796
01:38:37.380 --> 01:38:40.970
Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's so important. But anyway, I

1797
01:38:40.970 --> 01:38:44.260
think the winners that you report it, Earlier this week,

1798
01:38:44.300 --> 01:38:47.819
we had Jim Acosta. I got to tell you, frankly,

1799
01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:48.979
I was a little surprised by that.

1800
01:38:49.420 --> 01:38:52.510
If I remember correctly, it was 57% he got.

1801
01:38:52.550 --> 01:38:55.670
Right, exactly. It was going to say 57%. Rosie was second,

1802
01:38:55.750 --> 01:38:59.050
and then Kristen Welker was third. She was a distant third.

1803
01:38:59.430 --> 01:39:04.399
I think that's just name recognition. I think Jim Acosta, obviously,

1804
01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:07.640
if you're on the conservative side of things, he's kind

1805
01:39:07.680 --> 01:39:11.699
of usually public enemy number one. And then Rosie O'Donnell, obviously,

1806
01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:16.260
most people, regardless of political affiliation, at least have heard

1807
01:39:16.300 --> 01:39:19.659
of her. And Kristen Welker, unless you're watching the news,

1808
01:39:19.689 --> 01:39:20.699
you don't know who she is.

1809
01:39:21.270 --> 01:39:21.489
Right.

1810
01:39:21.689 --> 01:39:23.189
Every once in a while, she'll come up. I mean,

1811
01:39:23.630 --> 01:39:25.510
she's doing her best to try to get some clicks

1812
01:39:25.569 --> 01:39:28.649
and get some attention. But the time that she does,

1813
01:39:29.850 --> 01:39:31.390
you know, it would be OK if there was some

1814
01:39:31.470 --> 01:39:34.109
substance there, Nick, in my humble opinion. I mean, it's

1815
01:39:34.149 --> 01:39:35.720
not like I sit there and said, I'm glad I

1816
01:39:35.739 --> 01:39:37.520
heard that from her. Well, you know.

1817
01:39:38.010 --> 01:39:40.069
How much substance can you throw in propaganda?

1818
01:39:41.140 --> 01:39:44.140
Exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's like, OK, I mean, you

1819
01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:45.920
got to I mean, I guess if you like to

1820
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:49.720
get gas lit, then, you know, tune in, you know,

1821
01:39:49.739 --> 01:39:53.020
if that's, you know, if that's your drink of choice,

1822
01:39:53.100 --> 01:39:56.369
I guess. But I think more and more Americans are realizing,

1823
01:39:56.390 --> 01:39:58.689
you know, that's not necessarily the way to go.

1824
01:39:59.550 --> 01:40:03.289
You think NBC viewers, NBC News viewers are full of gas.

1825
01:40:04.329 --> 01:40:08.359
OK, right. Hey, let's talk about this week. Who do

1826
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:09.119
we got to vote on?

1827
01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:13.260
We have Joe Scarborough, we have John Oliver, and we

1828
01:40:13.300 --> 01:40:15.760
have Rosie O'Donnell making another appearance.

1829
01:40:16.119 --> 01:40:18.739
Well, good. Well, she's the one that won't, the song

1830
01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:21.020
that will not go away, speaking of which, I love

1831
01:40:21.100 --> 01:40:25.689
it when she sings. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. But

1832
01:40:25.909 --> 01:40:29.770
Joe Scarborough, he's, you know, this whole idea, I mean,

1833
01:40:29.810 --> 01:40:33.619
this is just so old and tired. ICE agents are

1834
01:40:33.699 --> 01:40:36.090
Nazi shock troops. Give me a break. Come on.

1835
01:40:36.149 --> 01:40:38.210
That rug that he's got on his head might be

1836
01:40:38.310 --> 01:40:40.869
on a little bit too tight and restricting the flow

1837
01:40:40.909 --> 01:40:44.229
of blood to his brain. Because it's the same tired thing.

1838
01:40:44.529 --> 01:40:48.899
These people, they think like they invoke Nazis. And oh

1839
01:40:48.909 --> 01:40:52.960
my God, you know, like we've never heard that comparison before.

1840
01:40:53.060 --> 01:40:55.319
It's like, have you been alive the last 10 years?

1841
01:40:56.899 --> 01:41:00.140
Well, and the deal is what happens is that by

1842
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:05.439
making those kind of statements... you negate the legitimacy of Nazis, right?

1843
01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:08.760
It's the same thing they did with racism. Racism doesn't

1844
01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:11.869
mean anything anymore, at least in the context of how

1845
01:41:11.930 --> 01:41:14.869
they wanted to portray it for the last 30 years

1846
01:41:15.750 --> 01:41:18.430
or 50 years, whatever you want to say. Now, the

1847
01:41:18.449 --> 01:41:23.100
whole Nazi thing, more and more people You know, unfortunately,

1848
01:41:23.149 --> 01:41:25.920
the older people are passing away and the younger people

1849
01:41:26.300 --> 01:41:29.880
know less and less about Nazis. So they don't really

1850
01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:33.300
know what they're saying. They just say it because, oh,

1851
01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:36.720
that's the boogeyman that the news tells us about. Right.

1852
01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:39.159
Well, and you just said something that's so important here.

1853
01:41:39.579 --> 01:41:43.079
And hopefully people caught this. And that is that they're

1854
01:41:43.739 --> 01:41:46.890
understanding less and less about Nazis. It's just become such

1855
01:41:46.930 --> 01:41:50.649
a neutral term that they don't realize how horrendous it is.

1856
01:41:50.689 --> 01:41:53.359
It's no wonder. that our kids have been dumbed down

1857
01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:56.039
in such a way that they would not have any

1858
01:41:56.100 --> 01:42:01.520
kind of understanding of how incredibly horrible, uh, Nazis were

1859
01:42:01.619 --> 01:42:03.170
and what they did in world war two and how

1860
01:42:03.210 --> 01:42:04.609
many millions of people they killed.

1861
01:42:04.930 --> 01:42:07.710
Well, I can tell you from experience, I was, I

1862
01:42:07.729 --> 01:42:11.550
grew up in, um, a Northern suburb of Chicago, which

1863
01:42:11.630 --> 01:42:15.449
had the most at the time, the most per capita

1864
01:42:15.489 --> 01:42:20.130
Holocaust survivors in the United States, Skokie, Illinois. And, uh,

1865
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:23.439
We had, I think I was in first or second grade,

1866
01:42:23.899 --> 01:42:29.109
we had an actual Holocaust survivor, tattooed numbers and all

1867
01:42:29.189 --> 01:42:33.149
on the arm, come and speak to us because Skokie,

1868
01:42:33.189 --> 01:42:35.970
Illinois is the only, I mean, at the time, I

1869
01:42:35.989 --> 01:42:38.159
don't know about now, but at the time was the

1870
01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:40.760
only other place in the United States that had a

1871
01:42:40.899 --> 01:42:46.989
national Holocaust museum. So we knew nothing. very well who

1872
01:42:47.029 --> 01:42:51.069
the Nazis were. But the further you get away from history,

1873
01:42:51.829 --> 01:42:53.510
the more you don't understand it.

1874
01:42:53.750 --> 01:42:56.810
Oh, without a doubt. Yep, exactly. No, you're exactly right

1875
01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:59.840
on that. And the statements that Joe would make, you know,

1876
01:42:59.899 --> 01:43:02.420
saying that, you know, Americans are, you know, getting caught

1877
01:43:02.460 --> 01:43:06.399
up and they're getting gunned down in the streets of America. Really?

1878
01:43:06.460 --> 01:43:06.779
Come on.

1879
01:43:07.180 --> 01:43:09.680
Joe should know better. And you know what? I think

1880
01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:12.840
he does know better because if you remember when Trump

1881
01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:18.729
was reelected, in November of 2024, Joe put on his

1882
01:43:18.890 --> 01:43:22.670
Trump-friendly hat for at least a couple of months so

1883
01:43:22.689 --> 01:43:25.149
that he could get invited to the White House.

1884
01:43:25.250 --> 01:43:26.069
To Mar-a-Lago.

1885
01:43:26.789 --> 01:43:29.630
Or Mar-a-Lago, thank you. I believe he did get invited.

1886
01:43:29.909 --> 01:43:30.149
Yes.

1887
01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:33.020
And he was all friendly again. Now he's back to

1888
01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:34.159
his old usual shtick.

1889
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:35.619
Yeah.

1890
01:43:35.979 --> 01:43:39.979
Well, being Hispanic, I will say this, that I'm able

1891
01:43:40.060 --> 01:43:43.119
to walk around here in Florida, do business as usual,

1892
01:43:43.770 --> 01:43:47.180
And I don't need any stinking papeles. I don't need

1893
01:43:47.220 --> 01:43:47.760
any papers.

1894
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Yeah. I mean, heck, that's why Miami flipped red.

1895
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Yeah.

1896
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Right.

1897
01:43:55.020 --> 01:43:58.039
Exactly. So it's just absolutely ludicrous. But, you know, such

1898
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is the left. John Oliver, HBO host, he says Reagan

1899
01:44:03.789 --> 01:44:08.449
was a messy bitch. The Forrest Gump of societal ills,

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says this genius John Oliver.

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You know, didn't we fight a war so we wouldn't

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01:44:14.210 --> 01:44:15.789
have to listen to these people anymore?

1903
01:44:16.329 --> 01:44:17.189
Well, you thought so.

1904
01:44:18.210 --> 01:44:20.869
I mean, I'd love to see this guy do an

1905
01:44:21.029 --> 01:44:28.220
expose on his show about his government putting people in

1906
01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:34.399
jail for offensive social media posts while also letting an

1907
01:44:34.460 --> 01:44:39.529
entire group of people that have invaded that country... rape

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their children for 30 or 40 years.

1909
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Right.

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Love to see him talk about that, but he's never gonna.

1911
01:44:45.689 --> 01:44:49.779
Yeah. Well, let's talk about their, you know, their government

1912
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medical care program, right? That does so well. That is

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01:44:54.760 --> 01:44:57.979
forcing people to, you know, if they're in a little

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01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:00.000
bit of pain, we're going to take you out of

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pain so you don't have to feel any pain ever again.

1916
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We're just going to take you out. I mean, they're

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exercising euthanasia to a whole nother level here.

1918
01:45:08.899 --> 01:45:12.479
Look, they can't even spell euthanasia. They think euthanasia are

1919
01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:16.479
a group of kids in China. OK, so let's get

1920
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real here. These are not the brightest bulbs in the bunch.

1921
01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:25.039
Yeah, this is this is unreal. He says, I quote,

1922
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I believe that until and unless someone can establish that

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the unborn child is not a living human being, then

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that child is already protected by the Constitution, which guarantees life,

1925
01:45:35.699 --> 01:45:38.510
liberty and the pursuit of happiness to us all. this

1926
01:45:38.590 --> 01:45:41.250
is what Ronald Reagan said, not what, uh, not what all,

1927
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but Oliver, uh, you know, took exception to that.

1928
01:45:45.210 --> 01:45:51.260
Well, let's see Oliver clarify when he thinks a child,

1929
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if he even thinks a child in the womb is

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a child.

1931
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Yes.

1932
01:45:55.960 --> 01:45:58.420
When does, when, when does life begin, John?

1933
01:45:58.439 --> 01:45:59.239
Yeah.

1934
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When did your life begin?

1935
01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:01.439
Yeah.

1936
01:46:01.479 --> 01:46:04.390
That's what I was going to ask. Yeah, exactly. Well, they,

1937
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they don't want to consider that because, uh, you know, it's, uh,

1938
01:46:08.430 --> 01:46:10.960
you know, it's just a, you know, a fetus. It's

1939
01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:14.920
just a thing to be deposited. Yeah, right. It's nothing,

1940
01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:18.760
you know, there's no human condition there. But, you know,

1941
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but yet these people who claim that science, we should

1942
01:46:22.050 --> 01:46:24.310
listen to science. Of course, they are the ones that

1943
01:46:24.329 --> 01:46:27.109
did such a great job for us during COVID. We

1944
01:46:27.149 --> 01:46:29.649
need to continue to give them place and listen to them, right?

1945
01:46:29.949 --> 01:46:32.760
Look, these are the same people that are currently supporting

1946
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Lindsay Clancy's after she murdered her three children, after she

1947
01:46:37.109 --> 01:46:39.590
sent her husband out on an errand so she could

1948
01:46:39.649 --> 01:46:42.060
murder her three children with exercise bands.

1949
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:42.840
Yeah.

1950
01:46:43.380 --> 01:46:48.640
Yeah, exactly. Uh, Rosie O'Donnell, by the way, uh, I

1951
01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:53.170
was checking on the ratings here and, uh, she did 1.87

1952
01:46:53.170 --> 01:46:57.069
million total viewers. Uh, you know, and like you say,

1953
01:46:57.329 --> 01:47:00.850
name recognition, uh, you know, it's a nice bump. This

1954
01:47:00.869 --> 01:47:03.729
is probably one of the highest, uh, performances of any

1955
01:47:03.789 --> 01:47:06.029
summer guest host for the show so far.

1956
01:47:06.970 --> 01:47:10.310
Yeah, and I think that's probably just out of curiosity.

1957
01:47:11.470 --> 01:47:15.010
You know, it's somebody other than Jimmy Kimmel. However, at

1958
01:47:15.029 --> 01:47:18.729
the same time, you know Jimmy Kimmel called her up

1959
01:47:19.170 --> 01:47:22.149
and was like, hey, you really want to piss off Trump?

1960
01:47:22.510 --> 01:47:23.470
Yeah.

1961
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Let's put you on the show. Let's bring you back

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from Ireland.

1963
01:47:27.689 --> 01:47:27.909
Right.

1964
01:47:28.510 --> 01:47:30.689
Well, you know, the squirrel was getting hungry. Nobody was

1965
01:47:30.729 --> 01:47:32.289
feeding her squirrel. She had to come back.

1966
01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:37.300
What are you doing in Ireland? Obviously, you ran away

1967
01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:41.859
to Ireland because Trump's the boogeyman. In terms of her working,

1968
01:47:43.020 --> 01:47:44.619
what work are you getting in Ireland?

1969
01:47:45.819 --> 01:47:49.000
I think it was a little bit of an exchange.

1970
01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:54.220
Harry and Meghan for Rosie. Except Harry and Meghan aren't

1971
01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:56.819
going to be in Ireland, but they're on the other

1972
01:47:56.859 --> 01:47:58.079
side of the Atlantic anyway.

1973
01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:03.119
She had these horrible jokes. She called Trump President Oompa

1974
01:48:03.220 --> 01:48:06.050
Jay Loompa. And I'm like, what is that, Obama's cousin?

1975
01:48:06.060 --> 01:48:11.210
It just like it falls flat. It's like, what are you,

1976
01:48:11.390 --> 01:48:14.210
eight years old? An eight year old would make an

1977
01:48:14.229 --> 01:48:16.550
eight year old would find that joke corny, actually.

1978
01:48:16.970 --> 01:48:20.140
Right, exactly. Yeah, they would actually just say they. would

1979
01:48:20.180 --> 01:48:21.720
turn off the TV is what they would do.

1980
01:48:21.739 --> 01:48:23.819
Yeah, they'd be like, no, just put on regular Willy

1981
01:48:23.859 --> 01:48:27.939
Wonka instead of whoever this lady is on my screen,

1982
01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:29.319
if you can even call her a lady.

1983
01:48:30.060 --> 01:48:32.909
So here it is, the three nominees that you can

1984
01:48:32.949 --> 01:48:37.210
vote on, and we'll have the announcement next week. So

1985
01:48:37.229 --> 01:48:42.000
we've got the one and only Joe Scarborough, the HBO

1986
01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:45.859
host John Oliver, and, of course, Rosie O'Donnell, right?

1987
01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:50.319
Yep, yep. And if you go to Newsbuster's account on

1988
01:48:50.539 --> 01:48:52.699
X or Twitter, whichever you like to call it, you

1989
01:48:52.739 --> 01:48:55.420
can vote there, and the results should be up Monday.

1990
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Well, check it out. He's the content creator for MRC Video.

1991
01:49:00.289 --> 01:49:02.270
Senior content creator, I should say. Got to give him

1992
01:49:02.289 --> 01:49:05.350
the full title. Nick Kangata. Say, Nick, thank you so much.

1993
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Have a good one, my friend. Take care.

1994
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Thank you. You too, Bill.

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