July 22, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 07 22 26
The Bill Martinez Show 07 22 26
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, okay, us do an Ill Martinas Live a program
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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and
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our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning in Aloha.
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Six minutes after the top of the ar Bill Martinez
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coming to you from Aina, maui ye and enjoying the
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time here and you know, the beautiful weather and all.
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You know, so you know, and we've got John O'Connor
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joining us now, the legal analyst, author of Postgate. Hey, John,
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good morning, how are you good? Mar to Bill Well,
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lots to catch up on. I just want to touch
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on a couple of things here regarding Donald Trump. First
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of all, the Egene Carrol case. I guess she got
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some money, after all, judge ordered her to be paid,
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you know, a lot of money for you know, kind
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of a goofy court case here.
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Well, it is and that's the one that really is
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the bothersome one. I mean, he ended up having to
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pay five million plus interests or about five six and
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you know, and I think that was the assault case.
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And you know what's odd about it is is that
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after that assault case, then he says, basically, which is
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his constitutional right, woman think to say that he was
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not guilty of a rape, and so therefore she sued
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him for defamation and she got fifty million dollars for that.
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Now that hasn't gone through the system, but I oh
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that one. Just first of all, the first the first thing,
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it's inherently unbelievable and incredible that one could carry off
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a rape in a dressing room at Bloomingdale's. It was
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just absolutely absurd. Oh, excuse me, keep your voice down, Gene,
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because I don't want the people that are right outside
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this room to know I'm raping you. It's just ridiculous.
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And she's I think she probably had some sort of
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she may sincerely believe she was raped in some sort
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of a.
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Odd kind of a metaphorical sense.
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Well.
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And also people sometimes create memories, especially people that are
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psychologically screwed up, and things happened. And you know, you
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had that same thing with Brett Kavanaugh, where somebody sure
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that something happened, but nothing happened here. And that's the
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terrible thing about it is is there's so much Trump
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hatrod out there. I'm not saying knowing Trump. Trump probably
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when she's, you know, a good looking woman, he was
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probably came on to her in some way, but not.
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Trump is not a physical rapist. That's just not his history.
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He's been a lot of.
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In a public in a public environment.
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I mean, that's not who he was, and he was
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a public character at the time. He's not going to
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go physically rape somebody. And there have been no reports
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of him privately raping anybody in a hotel room or
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whatever it might be. So this is not Harvey Weinstein.
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And it's just it made no sense.
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And John, what about what about the way that the
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lawsuit was conducted. The judge seemed to deflect and really
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limit Trump's defense on all this.
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Absolutely, oh absolutely, I mean the judge was I don't
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want to say in the tank because that would be
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a slur on him, but he was unduly biased in
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favor of Jean Carroll. And of course he hates Trump,
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like so many these people in New York do. And so,
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you know, I've litigated defamation cases and also assault cases.
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This is actually the first. This was an assault case.
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And once you limit the testimony so that the main
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thing the jury sees is this testimony of the plaintiff, Yeah, yeah,
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I mean that sort of pushes them to a verdict
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and you know then then all you say, as well,
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it's a balancing thing, a little more preponderanceerance, she's more
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likely truthful than not. That's it. Then you're gonna lose
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that case. And so the judge has a big, big
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role to play in this. And I'm not saying he
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was doing something illegal or corruptly, just he just was
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biased against Trump.
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Yeah, but how you know, what does this say about
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the legal system, John, I mean for anybody else that
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would go in and participate in the system, that you
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would get a profile person like Donald Trump and really,
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you know, kind of kind of run him over here.
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Well, that's right. And in California at least, and in
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some states you get an automatic disqualification of any one
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particular judge that you think is is biased. I don't
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think they have that in New York. So he gets
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stuck with his judge and maybe if you would have
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disqualified him, the next one would have been just as bad.
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But that's the problem with the system is you can
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have a seriously biased judge. Now you have this other problem,
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which is is that Trump is unlike any other litigant.
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There's such incredible irrational hatred of Trump that it is
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very hard for the guy to get a fair trial
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in a place like New York, whoever is dealing with him,
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And you know, and some of it is the way
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our thought process is today. There is so much what
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I would call effective with an a effective thinking versus
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cognitive thinking that you put this together, and that's why
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there's so much hysteria about Trump. If you concentrate just
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on the atmospherics of Trump, his haircut, his bluster, his
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you know, his forceful personality, Oh, you could sell the guys.
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The guy's a king. He thinks he's king. He's a
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terrible guy. Well you know this now, King's rally. He's
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not a king. He's just a guy with a lot
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of bluster. You know. Meanwhile, when Obama says in a
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real cool way, well I've got a pen and a phone.
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I don't need the legislature. What he's really saying is
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I'm going to be a king. Well Obama was a king,
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but he said it in a cool way. So everyd goes, oh,
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you're cool, that's okay. And if Trump blusters about something
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he's a king, well he's not really being an autocrat.
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Obama was, but he's a cool guy.
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Yeah, right, yeah, exactly. Well, and then of course here
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he presents his case to the country, not only to
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talk about Iran, and you've got networks going and we
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don't want anything to do with it, especially when he
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was talking about the issue of voting.
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Right, that's right. The networks try to get around that
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price precisely because they have not covered this fully. I
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wrote an article about Kristen Welker on Meet the pressing
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all going nuclear on Trump that Gene, none of this
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has been proven, this vote stuff, and that's just not true.
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There's plenty of it. I think she said there was
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no evidence of any voter fraud, and that's just ridiculous.
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I wrote an article about it in the next few hours.
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It was so clear and just highlighted some of the
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tremendous proof of fraud. Now that doesn't mean you can
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overturn the election. You can prove fraud the way we
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prove facts. But our system is such that it should
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be the vote counting, the vote voting place. That is
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pretty much sacrisanct, and you can count on those. But
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if you don't, if that voting place goes out of
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whack and you have harvested ballots coming in, doesn't handle
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it if it's not managed, right, But a lawsuit's not
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going to do any good.
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Right.
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Well, John, the electorate, the majority of the electorate says
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they don't trust you, know, the results of the twenty
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twenty election.
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I mean, this is the electorate itself.
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And it almost seems like the far left is using
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the twenty twenty election as a litmus test. You know,
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if you don't open up a bane and swear that
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you agree that Joe Biden was fairly elected president of
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invalidate you and do all kinds of evil towards you.
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Who cares about free speech? Bill? Yeah, the words the
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two words election denial. You're a terrible person, and they
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can just stamp you because it's when you say election denial,
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what you're saying is you've got free speech rights except
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for this election. Oh unless, of course you're also a
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Exactly, John, we gotta go to a quick break.
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