July 20, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 20 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 20 26
The Bill Martinez Show 07 20 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning and Aloha America. Bill Martinez coming to

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you live from Maui, Owaii, and we've got to Grover,

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Northwest on the other side of the planet almost Grover.

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Good morning. How are you, sir?

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Hi here in d C. Keeping an eye on them?

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Well, speaking of which, what's the latest buzz? I mean,

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we're still, you know, obviously still trying to get our

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heads on straight about the sudden passing of one Lindsay Graham.

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Right, Yeah, Lindsay Graham was a friend. He saved the

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president's tax cut, that the one in the second term,

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the big beautiful veil we had. Normally, when you tax

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cuts inside reconciliation, which means you don't you can pass

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it with a majority vote fifty votes plus the Vice president.

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You don't need a single Democrat vote. There is no

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Democrat that would help you pass taxes, tax cuts, tax cuts,

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pass these bills. They all vote no. They don't want

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the per child tax credit increase. They don't want your

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rates reduced, they don't want lower taxes on investment for

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new jobs. They don't want business taxes lower so we

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can compete with China.

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All of these things, everything that promotes growth. Grover. It's

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amazing how anti growth they are.

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Right, well, it makes sense. Economic growth reminds the American

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people that freedom brings prosperity, not government. They look to

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businessmen and women. They start talking about Elon Musk being

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a great guy. Who talks about any senator or congressman.

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The way people talk about Elon Musk is like doing

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amazing things and he's rich, but he's only got a

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sliver of the value of what he's created. All these

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people who buy stock in this, they're part owners. They

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didn't invent it, they didn't think it, they didn't do it. Well,

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they did do it. They contributed the capital to make

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it happen. They they are part of that. That's what

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freedom is about. So it's it's the Democrats would prefer

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not to have growth. They really liked the Great Depression

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because the government got to allocate all the resources, and

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they're not really big on periods of strong economic growth

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like under Reagan. Because I'm sorry, what's there for me

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to do except get in the way and cause problems.

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Yeah, I've got a regulation for you and for you

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and everybody gets a regulation, right.

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That'll slow it down. That'll slow it down. Get those

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regnitions and then they're important again. Then the businessmen come

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and beg them to, you know, loosen the noose a little,

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just a little bit. Here's a danger coming. I believe

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we will defeat it, but be aware because it starts

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to sneak up on us every once in a while.

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It's not the first time we've seen this critic and

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it's called a bi partisan commission that's going to neutrally

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decide how to raise trillions of dollars in taxes. And

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we saw, unfortunately, one Republican uh Marino, Bernie Marino of Ohio,

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along with Elizabeth Warren put together for Elizabeth Warren's peace,

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let's have a three trillion dollar tax increase, not reform

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social security, just just pay put more money in so

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it will fail for your children and grandchildren, not for you.

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But they don't fix it, they don't perform it. They

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don't turn into something where there's real savings, like a

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four to win k or an ira, which other countries

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have done. It's not like unheard of. We do it

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all the four one k a retirement accoup people have

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real retirement and when when they passed away, there's real

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money that goes to their children, so security you there's nothing,

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there's nothing saved for you or your children at all.

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So we got to rethink how they do that because

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it doesn't work. It makes people poor, not rich, or

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not more prosperous. But Marino said, we're gonna spend three

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trillion dollars just keeping it going and fixing nothing and

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improving nothing. Actually it was you know, that wasn't his idea.

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That was that was Elizabeth Warren's idea, Pokmonta's, and he

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signed on to it to appear on a bipartisan progressive something,

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but he was pretty much alone and every conservative, even

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the Heritage Foundation, which is a little bit wildly these

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days compared to what it used to be. Cablos Star Wars.

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That's the north North Star, that's where you're looking at.

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They're wandering off of it. This one boom boom knew

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this is crazy, very helpful of them and very good

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to hear. There's now a group of let's do that,

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not just the one time, but big okay, and we're

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going to have appointed people, like not elected people, make

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these decisions. We have a commission to reform social security.

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It's called the House of Representatives, which is mentioned in

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the Constitution. It's called the Senate, which is mentioned in

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the Constitution several times. Actually, And there's a president and

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they pass a lot and then he signs it or

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he doesn't, and then you have a bill. They go, no,

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we can't pass what we want to pass massive patch

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increases without this cover that some other group did it,

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and then.

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Yeah, you can blame them. Yeah, let's blame them, right, yeah, exactly.

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My goodness, this is in front of me and I

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have to vote yes or no in thirty six hours,

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and I can't think about it. Rush, rush, rush, And

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I can't amend it because then the Congress would be

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back into being Congress and governing and that they'd be

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responsible because everyone could not what I would have done.

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But it was the you know, it was the commission.

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I didn't like this part of it. I like, but

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I voted, you know, I voted for the whole thing,

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but I didn't like this. So once they tried this

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a number of years ago, and Arrington is a Republican

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and named congressman from Texas. He wanted to sneak this,

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and he made the mistake of somehow talking to us

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and thinking that we might think it'd be a good

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idea to sneak a tax increase into the budget. And

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we spoke to the leadership House leadership, Senate leadership that

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wanted nothing to do with this, and most Houses and

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Senate guys alerted to it. We're doing a letter to

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everybody about this new threat of setting up commission that

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will secretly do a tax increase, and everybody in a concience, Hey,

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you don't see my fingerprints on I was there. I

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have an alibi. I was in the bar. I was

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you know, I was watching TV show. Somebody else shot him.

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And they do this from time to time because they

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have it. It's not like they haven't planned out what

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they want. They know exactly what they want. They also

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know they could never pass it through the House and

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send it and get Trump to sign it exactly. But

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poor Republicans jumped on with the usual Democrats. Doesn't matter, Democrats,

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this is what the Democrat idea, they would do it.

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But these are the people who Trump has argued with primary,

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and they're leaving, and Cornon and the gentleman from Louisiana.

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And guys like that, we're telling Cassidy and then you're right.

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Yes, sorry, thank you. Tillis as well, which surprises me.

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Tillis has been very heroic when he was the Speaker

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of the House in North Carolina. They're facing their come

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talks down to zero because he led the fight. So

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so he's great on this stuff. But President poked him

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one too many times and threatened a primary, so he

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said I'm not running again and out the door. He

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ain't doing any favors for the president, so why not

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play with this idea? And again, to be fair to him,

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he's new to the Senate, the House. He doesn't know

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the other team pulls. This is a trick a few years,

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so he may think it's real, but but it could katcha.

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The press will be there blowing you know, you try

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and start a fire as a boy's guy. If you

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wrought it, the press will be there blowing on it,

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trying to get the fire to start. I think we'll

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be able to stop it, but only because you and

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your listeners are hearing about it now. The day after

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they dropped it, and I think one there are two fake.

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If you want to know which conservative groups are fake,

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the ones that endorse this are fake. There's a Committee

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for Responsible Budget, Committee for Responsible Federal Budget. They always

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endorse all the Democrat proposals. They endorsed Obamacare, massive spending

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and tax they were a massive giveaway to the bailouts

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and so on, and then they condemn all tax cuts

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because they're not responsible. Spending more money is responsible. And

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it's run by a left wing Democrat. But the problem

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is there are a handful of Republicans who joined the

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board thinking it was going to be back and forth.

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I told a few of them, and they're old, they're

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checked out, they're on some boording. They don't care. They

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do know, but they don't care. And so but so

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they stay on there and people use that well operason things.

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That's a good idea and a little bit one of them,

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you know, would like to be a player, maybe, and

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maybe this would be his way into the door. But

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if you have to sell the taxpayers of the country

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down the river in order to be a player, that's rather.

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I'll invite you over for tea for free.

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Really, why not? We got to go to quick Break

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Hey, we're back with your Bill Martinez here along with

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the President of Americans for Tax Reformer, America's pre eminent

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center right.

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Expert on taxes, Grover in nor Quiz Grover.

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What's so frustrating for Americans and why they need to

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respond is that look at every household during the Biden

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era and even now, you know, our meeting and saying, okay,

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where can we do how can we save money? The

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adjustments that we have to make certainly a little bit

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better because of the big beautiful bill, you know, little

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less cuts. Kids are able to participate in baseball programs

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or you know, dance recitals or whatever it is that

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we're you know, we're considered discretionary. But meanwhile, our Congress

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thinks just the opposite. You know, they just see all

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this money that the government's taken in and they just

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can't help themselves. What how can we get a message

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to them to you know, stop it.

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But there are a couple of interesting ideas, and some

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you have to think long term because there's very little

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you can do between now next Tuesday. But if you

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want to end the slave trade in Britain, you start

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forty years ahead and you can you can get it done.

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United States, you start forty years ahead and you get

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it done. And if the people who keep coming to

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the room I have a plan to fix it tomorrow,

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you almost have to show them the door. If the

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audience goes, well, we can do it tomorrow, we'll follow

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that guy well. And then they eventually come back and go, Okay,

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we realize it's going to take more than tomorrow. And

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fiscal discipline is in that zone. At the state level,

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Americans for Tax Reform has been working with twelve states

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now to phase their income tax to zero, to put

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a cap on spending, and when revenue comes up above that,

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instead of spending the additional money, you just cut the

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income tax. So how do you pay for getting ready

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of the income tax? You pay for it by not spending.

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And that's concept right.

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You don't replace the income, you don't spend the I'm sorry,

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I shouldn't have said the tax. The taxes. When you

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talk to somebody, if you want to know whether they're

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a Republican or Democrat. You ask to talk about taxes,

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and when they refer to the taxes as income, they

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work for the government and their own cuts. If they

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refer to taxes as a cost in their life, then

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there they're Republicans. Then they work for a living.

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And every once in a while you can find a

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fake Republican who talks about losing money because of the

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tax cut. Yeah, he is standing next to the government

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when he talks about losing money. The government's losing money.

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Everybody else is gaining money when you cut taxes. But

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everyone when I mentioned that to somebody, they they almost

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don't get it. They don't even hear themselves. They just

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know which team they're on. And a tax cut is

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a lots of revenue, not a gain in income.

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They have to be nuts when they see all the

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billionaires the a Guarchy tour, you know that Bernie Sanders

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talks about. This just has to bust their heads wide

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open when they see everyday Americans, you know, through their

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hard work and moxie, have become you know, so so affluent,

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and and they got all that money and they don't

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have any And what Congressman in the history of mankind

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has generated anything of value like what Jeff Bezos and

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Elon Musk have generated.

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Not to mention others, I think Jeff Bezos said something

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very important when somebody asked, well, when do you start

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giving you away your money? And he said, I can't imagine.

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I don't know how to do something to give away

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a billion dollars that would be better for the country

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than to invest it in Amazon, to hire people, to

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get people products sooner, to save time hours out of

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a day were they're on the drive to working back.

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The more I can do that, the more I can

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expand it. Every day i'm doing that, I'm making the

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American people better.

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Up.

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I can't think of a financial contribution I can make

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to a charity that would be as successful as that,

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because because I know what I'm exactly how the money

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is being spent inside my company, and the benefit to

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all Americans in lower costs uh and and un less

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time taken up by by living here by shopping. Nobody

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wants No man wants to spend a lot of time shopping,

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so you're freed up time. But uh, this is one

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where the Democrats spend a lot of time promoting envy

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and hatred of successful and uh, this is this happens

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around the world. That that that the Russian Communists didn't

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like the cool ox. What was a kolot a farmer

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who owned some land as opposed to a serf who

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worked on somebody else's. Then they were they were they

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weren't exactly rich, but they own their own land. And

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they would say, ah, the Coolox that is and you're

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poor is because of the because he has land and

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you don't. Of course comments didn't give anybody, they just

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stole the But but they play the envy card. Uh.

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And you see it in bigotry. People go oh in

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Indonesia they oh, the Chinese are you know, they are

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very successful businessmen and women and then we should be

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mad at them and not like them. Also ethnically different. Uh,

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the Armenians around the Middle East are very successful and

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people's I don't.

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Know, I don't like that.

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So it's the Lebanese and Africa or in the Indians

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in uh the place I was at, uh in South

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East Africa are the are the guys, businessmen and women,

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the people who buy sell stuff. People were mad at

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Jews because a Jewish bank or all that stuff. The

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regarts are playing into this envy thing and this race

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and sometimes religious hatred thing. It's really ugly what they do,

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but it's implet They have to do it to soften

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up the target. They have to get you to hate

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someone because he's ethnically different and there's a wrong religion,

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and that's some sort of trick and how they get rich.

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And they they work on Saturdays, and they work on Saturdays.

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They get up at five o'clock in the morning while

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you're sleeping till ten, right, and they're taking risks, they're

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borrowing money from relatives and doing whatever they can NonStop

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twenty four to seven, and now you're going to penalize

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them for their merits.

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It takes a lot of time to get people to

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have contempt for this guyse and to not like them,

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which is why it sometimes goes along with bigotry. And

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but the left does that so they can soften up

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the target and then say we're going to tax them,

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and then people, well, it's not me, and I do

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know from Twitter that there's something wrong with that them.

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So our job as Americans is to stand hand to

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hand and say we're all the same you want taxes,

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will pay five percent, We'll pay four percent. But we're

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not going to tax some people with a graduated income

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tax and not others. This was Karl Marx's list of

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ten things to be that would make communism communism the

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Communist Manifesto Number two. A graduated or progressive income tax.

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Graduated also known as progressive income even under Carl Marx's dates,

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known as progressive. So they want that wisely, so you

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can divide people by class and loot some of them

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when you want to. And that is a very important thing.

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Where you're seeing the country right now, they're twelve years ago,

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there were i'm sorry, six years ago, there were eight

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states with no income talks. Today they're sixteen. We've doubled

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the number of states where they say, we're not divided

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people against each other. We're all going to pay the

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same rate. We're you know, we're looking at our friends

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in Mississippi did this, In Louisiana and Georgia, they're on

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their way that they haven't quite done it yet, but

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they're on the way to do it. In South Carolina, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Ohio,

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most recently, just a year ago, all of these states

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have said, Iowa, we reject this class envy thing. Are

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now that they also said, and by the way, we're

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going to zero, but we're going to start by all

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getting to three or four or two, and then we

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go down to zero from there because we're going to

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start treating people the same. And oh, Kansas has passed

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a law that will get them in a couple of

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years to go to flat rate tax as well. And

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we're looking at a number of other states where they're

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trying to but they just haven't gotten it done yet.

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North Dakota's down to two rates, they want to go

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to one. Arkansas's got nine rates, but they're all next

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to each other. I don't know why they have lots

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of little rates, but they want to go to one

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rate as well. So at the state level, I hope

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Washington's watching and listening. Sometimes I write them letters and

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talk to them and say, hey, look at what's going

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on in the states. But we really are seeing at

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the state level in red states a demand treat it's

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the same one rate, and there's a measure on the

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ballot in Michigan. In Massachusetts, the liberals there went to

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two rates. They used had one they went to two.

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They only won that by fifty one percent. Okay, so

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people came back and said, we're going to take this

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from five to eight down to four, so everybody's going

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to get a tax cut and it'll be flat. And

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they threw it off the ballot. They were so scared

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of it. We're gonna come back in two years. But

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they came up with this ridiculous reason that the Democratic

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Secretary of State wrote a description of it, which is

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their job to do. And then the Supreme Court said,

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that's such a poorly written description by the Democrat secretary

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of State, we throw it off the ballot. Not tell

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her to change the description to an accurate one, but

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we throw it off the ballot. And the guys up

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there said, well, we'll get more signatures for a new

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one if you're they're not enough. It's up two years

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from now. They'll be back. But even Massachusetts liberal Democrats,

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Massachusetts wants to go to a flat rate tax, and

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the elite knows it, and they fear that so much

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that they cheat like that, so obviously cheat in a

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non democratic manner in order to stop people from being

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able to vote yes no on envy.

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The Democrats cheating. Can you imagine that I'm shocked in

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a pall. He's president of America's for Tax for Form,

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Welcome, good to have you with us. Phil Martinez here,

517
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.240
Aloha to you as we continue coming to you live

518
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:34.200
from Maui, Hawaii, and I'm talking with the Manhattan based

519
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.799
Fox News contributor Clear across the world. It seems they're

520
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:42.559
in New York, Jerroi Murdoch, Deroy. How are we doing, Buddy, Well,

521
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.039
I'm a great film not as well as you are

522
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:45.880
in Hawaii. What a lovely place to spend part of

523
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.000
your summer. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's a great time here

524
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:50.759
with the family and the kids. It's been a long

525
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.519
time coming. It's been a couple of years, but it's

526
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.319
great to see him, you know, in a couple of

527
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.319
years and these kids grow up so quick, Deroy, As

528
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.160
you know, I mean, the last time they were here,

529
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.480
I was taking them out golfing, and I mean, you know,

530
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.880
in their typical Hawaiian kids. I mean they're in the

531
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.960
water all the time and body boarding, you know, surfing

532
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.960
and all that kind of stuff. It's just amazing. It's

533
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.000
just such a delight, you know, I was sharing with

534
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.319
somebody else. You know, when when you're around your your

535
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.519
kids and grandkids and you have moments like this, you

536
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.480
just say, God, you know what I could, I could

537
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.640
go right now and feel very fulfilled and satisfied.

538
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.000
Well, you know, church, why you can, because as you know,

539
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.759
these moments go by quickly and then we can get older.

540
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.119
And one thing I found interesting about I mean children,

541
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.400
my friends who do they're gigantic. I don't know if

542
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.000
kids are if they're drinking more milk or there's something

543
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.920
to water supply. But I have a lot of friends,

544
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.119
like college friends are about my height, and I think

545
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.160
they're kids. And women are all oftent taller than I am,

546
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.960
and guys are like seven feet tall. I mean, you could,

547
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.960
you know, like Baron Trump, I mean that guy's almost like,

548
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.559
oh my god, the NBA six eight six nine. Yeah,

549
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.319
it's crazy. So you know, I don't We're going to

550
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:02.640
be a species of giants very soon.

551
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:04.559
Well, I guess I don't know what's in the water,

552
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.359
But I'm with you. I agree. Look at a lot

553
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:09.720
to catch up on since you and I last talked.

554
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.000
And of course, the big surprise over the weekend was

555
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.039
the passing of Lindsey Graham. You knew him, right, I

556
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:15.920
mean you never.

557
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.880
Met the man. I mean I saw him on No,

558
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.480
I had not. I saw him on TV and then

559
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:25.200
you know, all sorts of political contexts for many years,

560
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.240
and I know, certainly working at Fox News, he was

561
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.240
on screen all the time. He was on Hannity, he'd

562
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.880
be on Jessin Waters, he would be on our weekend shows.

563
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.680
The guy was an excellent spokesman for generally our side

564
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.359
most of the time, and was definitely out there making

565
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.480
the case, making the argument, talking in simple ways that

566
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:44.720
regular folks could understand. And it was one of the

567
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.960
great advocates for you know, for most of the Mega

568
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.000
and America First and Trump agenda. And what a shock

569
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.839
when I was actually in the newsroom on Saturday night,

570
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.400
Sunday morning, about two am or so, and a couple

571
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.640
of colleagues might say, hey, Lindsay Graham just died. Oh

572
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.759
my god, And I said really, it said, yep, I

573
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:03.519
don't know what happened. Eventually we learned it was a

574
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:05.960
torny order and with the Richt order, I mean, there's

575
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.039
an amount of CPR that's going to be bringing back

576
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.640
from that unfortunately. But I think, yeah, everyone liked dislike

577
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:14.920
Lindsey Graham left me, right. I think the main emotion

578
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.000
was shocked, Oh my god, I can't believe this guy

579
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:18.599
left and went so quickly.

580
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.039
Right. And the thing is is that you know, for

581
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.000
all that he did and tried to do in terms

582
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.960
of crossing the aisle and trying to you know, make

583
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.920
the Senate work, even when he was in the minority,

584
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.680
h he has been one of those fundamental and consistent

585
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.880
players to try to find middle ground. And but the left,

586
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.279
of course, the radical left there, so you know, off

587
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.759
the off the Richter scale here that you know, they're

588
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.720
talking of him like as if he was Hitler incarnate,

589
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:47.000
you know.

590
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.119
Yeah, and you know, I've seen some of these nasty

591
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:51.720
comments they made about him. And the didn't even wait

592
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.559
until the guy was in the bury the ground. The

593
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.319
attacks started a couple hours after he was after he died,

594
00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:59.599
and they're calling him all sorts of names and saying

595
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.039
it was warmer and all this sort of thing. And

596
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.559
you think they either could be quiet for a day

597
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.799
or two or you know, try to find something gracious

598
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:08.799
to say about him, like, okay, well I didn't agree

599
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:10.799
with him, but he was a very good advocate for

600
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.200
his cause. That sort of thing. Now there's this instant

601
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.680
uh acrimony, instant bitterness, and this is the difference between

602
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.640
the left and the right people and right either find

603
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:21.960
something positive to say about somebody or you know, keep

604
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.279
your big mouth shut. And the people on the left

605
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.960
just just started with the uh, you know, the incoming

606
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:28.640
uh you know, while the guy was still you know,

607
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.720
probably in the hospital waiting to be taken a medical examiner.

608
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.559
It's just truly disgraceful, unfortunately, very typical of the left today.

609
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.960
Well, of course, you know, as a supporter of Israel,

610
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:41.400
that's a pox on him right away. Yeah, he defended that,

611
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.160
he defended Brett Kavanaugh, uh, you know, in the uh,

612
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.680
in the hearings, the confirmation hearings, uh, And and said

613
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:54.920
very plainly that the Democrats were more interested in power

614
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.599
and control and that in so many words, he wished

615
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.759
that they did not ever attain it. Yeah.

616
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.119
Well, I think one of his great moments was during

617
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.039
the whole Kavanaugh circus when he came out and said

618
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:12.079
that people who were attacking him were completely unfair, that

619
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.559
they were making up this whole story about this one

620
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.759
blazy Ford claiming that he had molested her or arrassed her,

621
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.039
raped her back when they were in high school. This

622
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:23.160
woman couldn't name the location, she couldn't name the date.

623
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.200
I don't think she could name the month. And then

624
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:26.799
she said, well, you know, when it was all left,

625
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.440
she all done, she left the party, and you know,

626
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.519
basically Ubert at home, no cabin at home, not apparently

627
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:33.920
not a lot of cabs cruising around that part of Maryland.

628
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.480
I guess where they grew up. Her story didn't hold

629
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.200
any water. And yet the Democrats were running around as

630
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.640
if Kavanaugh or some sort of a serial rapist and

631
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.839
Graham had had it. He just let him have it.

632
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:48.640
It just attacked them in the Judiciary committee room. It

633
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:55.160
was the most effective and sort of robust engagement or

634
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.319
statement or anything I've intervention is know what I'm looking

635
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.279
for that I've ever heard from Lindsay Graham. A lot

636
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.559
of people looked like, wow, where did that guy come from?

637
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.160
And he really blossom. He was very much attached to

638
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.440
the hip to John McCain, who passed away I think

639
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:11.760
is around twenty fourteen ash or so. And after that,

640
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.559
I think he really came into his own even more so,

641
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.960
especially at the time of the of the Kavanaugh hearings.

642
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.840
Right exactly. And the thing is also in you know,

643
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:28.320
relationship to the Kavanaugh hearings, is that you know, Lindsey

644
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.840
you know, believed Kavanaugh. I mean, his story was so credible.

645
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.320
I mean, talk about picking the wrong guy. I mean,

646
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.519
here's a guy that had calendars, you know, made it

647
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.840
all the way back when he was in school, and

648
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.719
you know kind of deal. And and here blazey Ford

649
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.199
is putting up this hallow story that could hold no water.

650
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.679
And it was clear. And I thought the Republicans did

651
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:53.320
a great job in interviewing her, you know, not by

652
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.480
the you know, each senator, but they had a proxy

653
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.760
come in and do the interviews. You'll recall a woman

654
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.320
and you know, you could tell that blazy Ford was

655
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:10.320
you know, that her you know her you know, indictments

656
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.519
or her accusations were so hollow. And then of course

657
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.800
she had said she had nothing to do with anything

658
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.559
with you know, birth control or or the abortion issue

659
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.039
and all that, and then you find out later she

660
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.239
works for an abortivation company and.

661
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.960
How about that? Isn't that interesting? Yeah, And there were

662
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:32.599
no consequences for her. I mean it was very clear

663
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.039
to me that I was just going to bring it exactly.

664
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.440
Either made this stuff up or imagined it or her

665
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:43.320
loose into it and no, no repercussions, no consequences, no anything. Uh,

666
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.639
this woman just got away with I think, just basically

667
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.679
come up with totally fake charges and nothing happened. A

668
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:51.719
lot of that happens, unfortunately a lot of these accusers,

669
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.440
like in the Ducal Cross case. Uh, this woman who

670
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.039
was in Rolling Stone saying she'd been raped at UVA,

671
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.719
that story didn't hold it all. She was saying that

672
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.079
she escaped, ran down a fire escape at the frat house. Oh,

673
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.639
there's no fire escape at the frat house. That doesn't exist.

674
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.920
And she said all that, somebody apparently I guess, broke

675
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.400
a coffee table. There was broken glass all over the place,

676
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.840
and these fraternity brothers raped her on top of broken glass.

677
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.159
And who does that so that the story didn't hold up.

678
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:16.840
And then I guess it turned out that she made

679
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:18.559
it up. And I don't think anything ever happened to her.

680
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:20.880
These people just oh, well, whatever, it's cool, I have

681
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:21.719
a good day by.

682
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.000
Yeah, but look at the impact. Look at the impact

683
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.400
on these young men in their lives and their education.

684
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.760
I think immediately they were suspended some maybe and expelled

685
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.480
that I don't remember the exact details, but I remember

686
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.440
it was horrendous, especially after it was all said and done,

687
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.199
that she was, you know, she'd made the story up.

688
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.119
Very much so. And in the case of the Duke

689
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:48.119
lacrosse players, I know somebody who tangential link at the

690
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:49.599
spread of a friend of a friend kind of thing,

691
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:51.760
and minderstanding is one of these guys moved back to

692
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.360
New York and was so distraught about this that he

693
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.440
just crawled in a bottle and just developed a really

694
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.679
bad alcohol problem because he was so heartbroken and did

695
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.880
nothing wrong and was just looked down upon by everyone

696
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:03.920
who saw him as some kind of a rapist when

697
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.639
nothing like that happened. And apparently the guy either you know,

698
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.920
started drinking or kept drinking and didn't stop. So this

699
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:10.719
is the kind of thing that can happen to people

700
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:14.000
when they're put in these horrible situations when they do

701
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:18.360
nothing wrong, they don't engage in any inappropriate activity, and

702
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.360
people make stuff up and they never you know, they're

703
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.119
never able to scrub the taint off of them for

704
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:27.159
things in which they never engage, which is grotesquely unfair.

705
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.880
Yeah, the the things in closing out this segment here,

706
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.239
I just wanted to go back on Lindsey Graham. My

707
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.960
wife was telling me that Lindsey Graham, when they checked

708
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.199
his finances, he had a I don't even think two

709
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:46.760
million dollars. This is somebody who had been in Congress

710
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.920
in the Senate all these years, and unlike so many

711
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.639
of these other elected officials who leave or die with

712
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.280
a bank account that a choke a horse, Lindsay Graham

713
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.840
had a little over a million dollars. Are you kidding me?

714
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.119
Well, I guess that tells us that, you know, like

715
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.360
the guy or not, he wasn't a thief. You know,

716
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.000
you're right about these people who come in, you know,

717
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the Obama's a great example. They came in with basically nothing.

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And we're talking with the New York based Man based

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Fox News Control there, Deroy Murdoch. Deroy, you know, you

804
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and I've been chewing on this forever, it seems, and

805
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here we are. It's the song that will never end,

806
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and that's the United States versus Iran. Trump is again

807
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putting firepower there, and I think he just has to

808
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just close the de ill once and for all with them.

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And meanwhile, and I think what we're further encouraging them

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is that President Ji has has told has told Iran

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you cannot, you know, create interference there in the Strait

812
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of Hormuz.

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Well that's great. Maybe maybe the I Tolas will listen

814
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to Xijinping and the Chinese government, which is one of

815
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their biggest clients. You know, so much of their oil

816
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:26.360
goes to China, as you well know. So when the

817
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closest straight on our moves, that just makes life miserable

818
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.000
for the Chinese. So I think are the biggest recipients

819
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.800
of Iranian oil. But you know, I thought this thing

820
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had wound down, that we're going to have some kind

821
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of a peace agreement or ceasefire whatever, and then the

822
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Iranians didn't really cease fire. They just slowed it down,

823
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sort of a you know, slow down fires supposed to

824
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cease fire, and then it of course heated back up.

825
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And now apparently we're back in the blockade aspect of

826
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this kind of this conflict, and the Iranians, I guess,

827
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is going to try again to close the straight on

828
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:58.480
armorves and they just don't seem to learn any matter.

829
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:00.880
So we may have to teach them some more manners

830
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.039
yet again. And I hope we wrap this up soon

831
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because people last thing people need is an increase in

832
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.679
energy prices. Well, I've been saying you got to send

833
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in the Marines, to send in the Marines, you know, get.

834
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It done, get it over with. I know people are upset,

835
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they don't want boots on the ground or do whatever,

836
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but hey, look at you know, we're dragging this thing out.

837
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They continue to lie. I mean, there's what truth What

838
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true statement have they made and followed up on deroy?

839
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I can't think of one.

840
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I can't either. These people are grotesquely dishonest. You know.

841
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That's one of the biggest fears I have is that

842
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they don't seem to agree to or don't seem to

843
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keep their word on any agreement. So any agreement we

844
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signed them is probably it's a fact they're going to

845
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be violated. So I guess you just need to neutralize

846
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the point where they're just unable to respond at all.

847
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.800
So I guess I guess that means more ordnance from above,

848
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more you know, more more metal coming down from the skies,

849
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until these people just don't have the ability to respond

850
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and cause anybody in grief.

851
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You know, do we are? Two years has been two

852
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years already since Butler, right, and the attempted assassination of

853
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.199
the President's amazing. Think about it, and he admits, he says, yes,

854
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you know, by God's grace he was saved and praised

855
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that God will continue to look out for him. The

856
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.199
Iotola has put it out a fatah or put out

857
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a you know, a kill statement on Donald Trump. And

858
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.960
so you know, he's made it clear, the Ietola has

859
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.039
made it clear that they want Donald Trump gone. Of course,

860
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.440
like that's no big surprise. And you know, here it is.

861
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.599
You think about all that Donald Trump has been dealing with,

862
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.840
He's dealing with, you know, this hot mess in Iran,

863
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:43.239
in the Middle East, everything that's going on there, attempt

864
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:47.559
at assassinations UH and a Democratic Party and even some

865
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.519
members of his own party. It's like, I mean, every

866
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.480
once in a while I go, why is he doing this?

867
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.519
But at the same time, thank god he's doing it,

868
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.199
because if not Donald Trump, then.

869
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.039
Who well, certainly I mean would if not him base

870
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.079
on the last selection we have been Kamala Harris and

871
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.800
imagine us being in this conference that ran right now

872
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.840
with Kamala Harrison charge rather than Donald J. Trump. I

873
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.159
think they would have all the hold all the cards,

874
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:12.639
that have all the leverage, and we would be in

875
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:17.440
a position of credible weakness in peril. And absolutely I

876
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.920
think Trump is incredible in terms of his energy, his focus.

877
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.559
The man is just unsinkable. And I think even his

878
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.239
critics have got to say, look for a guy of

879
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.000
eighty years old who's able to work pretty much around

880
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:30.599
the clock and he's, you know, three in the morning,

881
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.280
he's still at it, and then he's back at it

882
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.719
again after an hour two of sleep. It's really quite astonishing.

883
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.119
And I'm sure that the Left wishes they had somebody

884
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.440
with that level of energy and stamina that he does.

885
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.400
And look what he's doing in terms of his vision

886
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.599
for America, about having a Golden age for America. You know,

887
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:53.880
over nineteen trillion dollars, the foreign investment, what he's done

888
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.159
in terms of opening space for artificial intelligence, the racers

889
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.840
on the space and everything else. And you know, meanwhile,

890
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.119
the Democrats are coming up because they're so adversarial and

891
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:10.039
Trump arrangements syndrome. I think they're going it's gonna require

892
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.159
decades of therapy for them because they're so brain damaged

893
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.000
over Donald Trump. They can't even think straight. Because even

894
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.400
when they try and articulate, you know, some sort of

895
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.639
political position, it's like, what are you taking lessons from

896
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:30.239
Kamala Harris? I mean everything non sequitured and nonsensical.

897
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.960
Yeah, I mean a couple of examples of this. Look,

898
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.039
if you don't like Trump's program, great, offer an alternative

899
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.800
or go out in protest. But people who don't like

900
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:41.880
Trump decided to take it out of the reflecting pool

901
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.119
and cut up the plastic lighting they put into tight

902
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.400
I think it's forty five thousand gallons of water a

903
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.960
day from leaking. You can't have that. You can't have

904
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.119
Trump fixed the reflecting pool. So you got to have

905
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:56.159
people go out and tall the thing to pieces. Another thing.

906
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.440
I remember seeing a few weeks ago, Trump was coming

907
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.880
down the stairs on Air Force Will and he was

908
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:03.440
holding on the railing and very carefully going down one

909
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.039
step at a time. And they're like, oh, look at Trump,

910
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.159
he's so oh they can't move, he's just crawling down

911
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.519
the staircase. Now, if he bounded down the staircase quickly

912
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:13.119
and didn't hold a handle and say, oh my god,

913
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:14.719
he's so reckless, you could fall down and hurt himself

914
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.719
out here. So there's nothing this guy can do to

915
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.280
make this these people happy, even the way he walks

916
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:20.760
down the stairs of Air Force one.

917
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:25.599
Right, yeah, exactly. And of course you know they're just

918
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.440
losing their minds. I mean, here it is. They're a

919
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:32.679
mess in Maine. They knew this was coming, you know,

920
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.599
and and the socialist democratic socialist movement has has commandeered

921
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.280
that party. And then here it is with this new

922
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.000
industry and all these potentials that are coming up. And

923
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.159
of course you're writing about this and it'll be released

924
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.480
hopefully later on today regarding the data centers, and maybe

925
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:51.920
you can give us a summary of that.

926
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.800
Deroy, absolutely, well, you know, the left has been attacking

927
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.840
data centers and AI in general, data centers in particular,

928
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.719
or the least probably yearish or so. And I think

929
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:04.760
what this is basically is the new global warming, of

930
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.039
the new so called climate change. You don't hear them

931
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.880
talking about very much, so I think they're looking at

932
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.239
this and thinking, if we attack that and shut that down,

933
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.000
this will slow down the economy and hurt the America,

934
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.519
which is what a lot of left wants to do.

935
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.320
So they've jumped on this new hobby horse, and they're

936
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:21.199
having some victories, I must say. In Monterey Park, California,

937
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.599
they had a vote on June second this year, and

938
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.920
they voted to have a permanent, not just one or

939
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.880
two years, permanent ban on data centers. That passed eighty

940
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.880
six to fourteen eighty six percent, yes, fourteen percent. No,

941
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.400
nothing ever passed this country by eighty six percent, So

942
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.079
it's quite something. And one of the arguments they make is,

943
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:39.800
oh my god, oh that data centers are going to

944
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:41.800
chew up all of our water. This is terrible. We'll

945
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:45.840
all dehydrate. An organization called Unleashed Prosperity took a look

946
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.480
at this, and the fact is that the data centers

947
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.960
do use per year seventeen point four billion gallons of water.

948
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.199
That's a lot of water. Seventeen point four billion gallons

949
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.719
of water. Well, yep, you know, as they say, compared

950
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.719
to what well, compared to water watermelons. To raise watermelons

951
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.280
in this country, we use fifty two billion gallons. That's

952
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.440
three times more. If you play golf, you like golf courses,

953
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.480
we use five hundred and thirty one billion gallons of

954
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:13.559
water on golf courses. That's thirty one times more water

955
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.559
than we use for data centers. And if you have

956
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.480
corn with your dinner, you have ethanol in your car,

957
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.960
which is based on a corn that uses three point

958
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.719
nine trillion gallons of water. That's two hundred twenty five

959
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.480
times more water than the data centers. And then the

960
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.679
big hog. It's funny, I should say hog because it's

961
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.079
really tenny, benefits cows, but alfalfa hay. Alfalfa hay uses

962
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:39.000
six point zero three trillion gallons of water. That's three

963
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.800
hundred and forty six almost three hundred and fifty times

964
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:45.079
more water than the data centers use. So yeah, data

965
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.039
centers use a lot of water, but compared to all

966
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.880
these other things we take for granted, hay corn water

967
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.079
in your lawn, golf courses, swimming pools, it uses a

968
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:57.559
whole lot less. And I really think Unleashed Prosperity did

969
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.199
a great job of, I think, completely debunking this Oh

970
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:03.000
my god, the water's going to vanish argument, just by

971
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:05.719
showing the comparison between what the data centers use and

972
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.639
what we use for you know, swimming pools, watermelons, amends way, way,

973
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:11.800
way less. And I think that argument at this point

974
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.039
has been completely demolished.

975
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.360
Yeah, but here they go so unprepared to debate this,

976
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.440
and in Monterey, like you said eighty six to fourteen,

977
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:24.239
it's like you fix the deal. I mean, you prejudice

978
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.800
the information with the people and convince them to this

979
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.440
level that they would basically shoot themselves in the foot. Now,

980
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:35.519
remind people deroy why data centers? Why are they so

981
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:40.920
significant in this in this current environment you know now

982
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:42.000
today and going.

983
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.760
Forward, well, data centers. I think a really good analogy

984
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:48.880
is that data centers basically are the AI revolution with

985
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:52.440
steel mills, worthy industrial revolution. These are basically the factories

986
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.719
that use data, analyze data, turn data into things we like,

987
00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:59.599
you know, when you have a cell phone, you look

988
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:03.960
at picture of your friends, your family, your vacation, your grandparents,

989
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:06.800
whatever it is. Those pictures don't sit inside your phone.

990
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.400
Those pictures are sitting on data centers around the country,

991
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:12.159
and all your phone does is connect to them so

992
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.519
you can see them. If you go on Amazon and

993
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.480
buy yourself some new shoes or a new camera or

994
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:20.679
a book or whatever those are, all those transactions are

995
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.880
happening on data centers all around the country. So if

996
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.280
you use the Internet at all, you engage in e commerce,

997
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:30.239
you buy anything online, you're using data centers. So this

998
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:34.719
is something is completely absolutely central to what we do

999
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:36.480
these days in terms of how we use the Internet

1000
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.039
in our lives. And if we shut the data centers down,

1001
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.800
good luck finding a place to put your family photos

1002
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.119
and pictures of your friends, good luck buying stuff online,

1003
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.039
good luck dealing with things like you know, going on

1004
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:51.599
kayak to book flights or hotel rooms, that sort of thing.

1005
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:54.119
All these things that we do online on the Internet

1006
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.719
and involved data centers. And this is a positive thing.

1007
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:58.719
This is a good thing. And in this article I'm writing,

1008
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.079
which should be on Daily Signal within the next day

1009
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:05.360
or two, and elsewhere I really tried. The AI companies

1010
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.400
and the data center companies in particular. They are being

1011
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.800
hammered by politicians, by activists, by people who hate them,

1012
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:17.400
and their response is quieter than crickets. There's no response

1013
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:20.079
that they maybe think if they just keep quiet and

1014
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.320
hid under their desks, the boogeyman will go away. The

1015
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.960
boogeyman is sitting there with a monkey wrench ready to

1016
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:29.320
bash their heads in. And these people like Bernie Sanders

1017
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:32.880
is talking about fifty percent nationalization of the AI companies.

1018
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:38.440
AOC and Bernie Sanders have introduced a federal moratorium on

1019
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:42.840
data centers. There's a group that tracks all these moratory

1020
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.000
around the country. There are one hundred and twenty seven

1021
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.599
of them in various communities across the US and forty

1022
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.880
different states, including eleven plate jurisdictions with permanent bands on

1023
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.920
data centers. So this is very serious, and I guess

1024
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:58.360
these are basically a bunch of tech nerd types who

1025
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.199
don't really understand that they're being that they're under fire,

1026
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.199
and they're not responding there. I mean literally, I've never

1027
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.920
seen an ad saying, hey, here's a good idea, here's

1028
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.760
why this data center is going to make your life better.

1029
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.239
You do see some ads for AI companies, but they're

1030
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:15.440
very jargony, kind of kind of like coder talk, like

1031
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:18.719
whatever people who do, and they talk to each other

1032
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.360
in these weird phrases that none of us understand. They

1033
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.039
desperately need to get involved, get engaged in this discussion

1034
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.519
and talk in ways that regular people can understand as

1035
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.840
to what the promises of AI. It's going to make

1036
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.159
our lives better. Yeah, there may be some impact on employment,

1037
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:36.000
but we have the same problem when we went from

1038
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.039
horse and buggies to cars, or we went from candles

1039
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:40.960
to light bulbs, we went from black white TVs to

1040
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:44.880
color TVs, what have you. And when silent movies went

1041
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.079
to talkies, a lot of people who had weird voices

1042
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:48.880
didn't get to work, unfortunately, but a whole lot of

1043
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:52.039
other people did get hired as that industry expanded. So

1044
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.760
you can get out and make these arguments and engage.

1045
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:57.760
Right now, they're completely silent. I mean, I've been looking

1046
00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:59.719
for the case for AI. I've been looking for the

1047
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:04.320
CA for data centers. I see literally zero. I mentioned

1048
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.880
this thing about the water. There's a good article or

1049
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.880
a good video done by John Stossel on YouTube and

1050
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:12.840
a really good article in the Atlantic of all places,

1051
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.079
on how the data center attack on data centers is overblown.

1052
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:18.039
But other than those three things which you have done

1053
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:21.599
by outsiders, I have yet to see any even one

1054
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.840
example of any communication from the data center companies as

1055
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:26.440
to why this is a good thing, why they should

1056
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:28.280
not be shut down. So they got to get involved

1057
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.239
in this or they're going to be strangled at CRIB.

1058
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:33.199
And this is deadly serious. They don't seem to understand

1059
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:35.119
what the risk is. The risk is severe, and they

1060
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.760
got to get get in on this national discussion because

1061
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:39.440
they're not, and if they don't, they're going to find

1062
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.679
themselves out of business, which would be really sad for

1063
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:44.920
them and very sad for the entire society.

1064
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:46.880
You know, as you were laying this out, I was

1065
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:49.000
looking for the political hook, and you kind of went

1066
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:52.079
through it really quick and you wrapped it into Bernie

1067
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.880
Sanders and AOC. What it is is the government the

1068
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.679
confiscation of private property. They want to accompass gate this deal.

1069
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:04.599
If they can confiscate the data centers, hello, communism, socialism,

1070
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:08.039
then they're happy with it. They want they're big. That's

1071
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:09.559
really the bottom line.

1072
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.559
Right, absolutely, and not just hey, you know, we'll take

1073
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:14.880
five percent off the top. You know, Bertie Sanders says

1074
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.159
he wants half. If they can get more than half,

1075
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:20.159
they'll take more than half. And in the meantime, they're

1076
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.320
just in order to get that, they're just terrifying people.

1077
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.360
And you know, it would be one thing if they

1078
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:27.039
were terrifying people, But you have the AI companies, the

1079
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.760
data center company saying okay, here's why Bertie Centers is wrong.

1080
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:33.320
Here's what AOC doesn't understand. But they're just getting beaten

1081
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:35.360
up like crazy from the left, mainly the left, some

1082
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.280
people on the right of their concerns and just zero zero,

1083
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.960
zero engagement. They're just I can't think of another industry

1084
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.840
that's sitting there basically getting raped and they won't even

1085
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:45.559
blow the rape whistle. They won't even yell rape that

1086
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:47.559
sit there and just all right, I'll just sit back

1087
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:50.159
and you know, take this quietly. And that is going

1088
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:52.199
to wipe them out if they don't step up and

1089
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.679
make the case for themselves. The case isn't going to

1090
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.599
make itself on its own. They need to get up

1091
00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.480
and make it and they're not doing so. And that

1092
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:01.079
that is going to I think it has them in

1093
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:03.559
great jeopardy right now, and they've got probably a couple

1094
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:05.480
of months to get involved in big trouble.

1095
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:09.079
Right you know. Deroi think if AOC and Bernie Sanders

1096
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:11.159
were at the founding of this country two hundred and

1097
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.559
fifty years ago, our country would have been dead.

1098
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:16.519
Yep, absolutely think about that.

1099
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.480
And here they are now two hundred and fifty years later,

1100
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.639
and they're doing and they think they know better. I mean,

1101
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.440
they have no idea and forget about you know, the

1102
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:29.039
Constitution be damned, Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

1103
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.079
be damned, and freedom for all be damned.

1104
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.719
Right, yeah, well that's certainly ands tremendous risk aversion. I mean,

1105
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.679
if AOC and Bernie Sanders were in charge back then,

1106
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.639
we never would have gotten off Plymouth Rock. You know,

1107
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:44.719
the United States America be Plymouth Rock and maybe fifteen

1108
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.239
feet around it. That's as far as we would have

1109
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:48.440
gotten because oh, you know, you can't walk in that forest,

1110
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:50.239
you can't chop down that tree. It's too risky. So

1111
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.840
let's the city or see what happens. And they wouldn't

1112
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.760
have gotten anywhere. I mean, certainly be no settlement to

1113
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.000
the other colonies, no settlement in the West. The Oklahoma

1114
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:01.880
land Rush wouldnt have happen. Those guys just be sitting

1115
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:06.280
somewhere in northeast eastern Massachusetts that never would have gotten

1116
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.840
you know, even where Springfield is today, exactly.

1117
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:11.960
Well, I'm looking forward to the article that you said

1118
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:16.000
should be released this week on the Daily Signal. Really

1119
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:17.920
good stuff. Thank you so much for sharing it with us.

1120
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:20.719
He's the Manhattan based Fox Chaers contributor contributing editor with

1121
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.880
The American Spectator and also of course the Daily Signals.

1122
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:25.840
So check it out. To Roy Murdoch, Thank you, Deroy,

1123
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:27.519
Take care you bet great, talk to you.

1124
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:28.159
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1149
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It's been Trevor who has been shouting from the timbers

1150
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.159
at least for a decade and a half that the

1151
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.280
socialists are coming. Well guess what they are? No longer

1152
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.280
an exos state sure threat, as Trevor has been saying,

1153
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.159
they've been living amongst us. They have borne down into institutions,

1154
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:11.519
including elected officers, and they came out loud and proud

1155
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:12.920
last night, Trevor.

1156
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:15.039
They certainly did in.

1157
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.519
New York across the state to two.

1158
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:25.119
Well, they basically run one three congressional primaries, so there'll

1159
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.519
be three more of them in office probably after November,

1160
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.800
plus several state Assembly seats. It's a state Senate seat

1161
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:37.320
and others around New York. But that's just capping off

1162
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:41.639
a whole run. The one seats in Albuquerque, and a

1163
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:48.679
lot Los Angeles, Portland, Oregon, Minnesota, Detroit, you name it,

1164
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:50.920
all over the country. There's now hundreds of them in

1165
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.159
office around the country.

1166
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:56.599
Right, I mean, think about that, hundreds in office now

1167
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:00.239
and growing, and it's like we've got mum done. He's

1168
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:04.199
sprouting out all over the place. But not a big

1169
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.159
surprise for you. You've been warning us on that, like

1170
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:08.920
I said, at least for a decade and a half.

1171
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:10.639
Yes I have.

1172
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.760
And by the way, I didn't mention they also won

1173
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:16.800
the DC mayorty and one DC Council seat as well.

1174
01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:22.519
But yes, a decade and I'll follow Democratic Socialist America

1175
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:26.199
for nearly twenty years now, and we need to understand

1176
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:30.000
that this is just the latest iteration. It was the

1177
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:35.320
founder of DSA, a guy called Michael Harrington who wrote

1178
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.280
the blueprint of the Great Society back in the nineteen

1179
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:43.800
sixties that massively expanded welfare in this country and destroyed

1180
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:48.079
families all over the place under Lyndon Johnson. Was DSA

1181
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:53.599
through Quentin Young, Obama's personal physician, that gave us Obamacare.

1182
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.519
It was DSA through alis Ao Medina that gave us

1183
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.280
a legal immigration amnesty, you know, the push for legal

1184
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:02.360
immigration amnesty.

1185
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:05.039
So what we see now is.

1186
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.119
The damage they have done in the past, but this

1187
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.960
is going to be on steroids. They are really making

1188
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.039
a big push here to fully take over the Democratic

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Party and to basically destroy this country.

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Well, they really have taken over the Democratic Party. You've

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got AOC, you've got Bernie Sanders now that have put

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their stake into this party and looks like they're going

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to have total control. And I think, on one hand,

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in a strategic end, and I was discussing this with

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somebody else earlier, Trevor, is that the way they came in,

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it wasn't like they created a whole new party. They

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came in and overtook the Democratic Party. And so they

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present the illusion as if it is still a Democratic Party.

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But it's not. The Democratic Party and the Democratic Socialist

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Party are antithical, are they not?

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Well, the Democratic Party has been moving to the left,

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01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:02.519
but the DSA is communist. Yes, you know, they are

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a communist organization. They have so they this is a

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communist organization taking over the Socialist Democratic Party. So yeah,

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it's a it's a big lurch to the left, and

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01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:20.880
it's it's patchy around the country, but the main place

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01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:26.679
is Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Washington, d C. These

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01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.280
are Boston. These are all heavily influenced by do you

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01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:34.639
say now, plus many many other centers. But the other

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01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.840
thing is they control a union movement. They control groups

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01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:42.880
like Indivisible, They control the US Left, the Sunrise Movement,

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01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.400
people like this Working Families Party. This is all part

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01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.320
of a whole. But the point we have to understand

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01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:53.719
is these people are tied to the Chinese, the Cubans,

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01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:58.119
and European and Latin American communists. This is part of

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an international movement to take down the United States.

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Where else is this taking place besides the United States?

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Trevor Well, it's already taken place in Brazil. Brazil was

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a big model for this. Under Lula Thea, the Marxist

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and it was Lula that set up the Stle Polo Forum,

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a gathering of Latin American communist parties with Fidel Castro.

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Well DSA is now an associate member of that organization,

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which which was specifically set up to recover for communism

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in Latin America while was lost in Eastern Europe. So

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it's happening in Canada, it's happening in Australia, it's happening

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in the United States, and in Britain, where the Communist

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Party is very strong in the British Labor Party and

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a new pro communist leader is just about to take

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over British Labor, a guy called Andy Burnham. So this

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01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.840
is happening in most of the Western countries, most of

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Western Europe, and all of the pretty much all of

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01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.039
the Anglo sphere except for New Zealand right now.

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And it would seem that what is consistent in these

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areas that you've just cited, all dealing with immigration issues,

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all dealing with you know, all kinds of ideas and

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not enough money.

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Yeah, well that's right, and you mentioned immigration. Immigration is

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the key weapon for destroying the conservative voting base. And

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all of the anglosphere.

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You know, the.

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Australian Marxist leader Anthony Albanesi who now runs a place.

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You know, he was elected by the Communist Party of China.

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Essentially they have he caught. The Communist Party of China

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01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:48.320
called on Australian Chinese to vote for Albanesi and they

1245
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want several key electorates for him. The influence of China

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01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:58.480
and Canada as extreme now. They are, you know, dictating

1247
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:02.400
the outcomes of elections all over the place, and in

1248
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:05.719
places like California, the influence of Chinese is very strong.

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As in New York, where you'll find DSA is very strong,

1250
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:13.440
you also find the Chinese very strong San Francisco, Los Angeles,

1251
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:20.559
New York, Boston. These go together hand in hand. But

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01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:26.920
we've got to understand DSA is an agency of foreign powers.

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01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:32.400
It is a tool of the Chinese and foreign communists.

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And one of the main way this is playing out

1255
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:40.159
right now is that DSA is leading the charge against

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data centers all over the United States, you know, big

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01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:48.119
AI centers, Begause and I understand people's concerns about these.

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People are concerned about their privacy, they're concerned about resources

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01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:55.159
being used up. But the battle to shut these down

1260
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:58.840
has been led by DSA because DSA is doing this

1261
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:03.280
on behalf of the China exactly, because because the war

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01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:06.039
for the twenty first century in the next century is

1263
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:08.679
going to be fought on AI, and Trump has made

1264
01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:12.280
it very clear America has to win this and we

1265
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.480
don't win it, China will and they will dominate the planet.

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01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.920
So DSA is out there right now trying to retard

1267
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:24.440
America's development of AI as much as it possibly can,

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because they are working for the enemy.

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Yeah, exactly. You know, people may think, well, you know,

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I'm not seeing a lot of Chinese around. How are

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01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:36.920
they able to leverage so much influence and power? We

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01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:40.320
see what they've done in media, in sports and other areas.

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01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:43.239
But I say, look, look at the example of what

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happened in Minneapolis. You've got eighty thousand Somalis there, Trevor

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that have basically taken over that city and ultimately the state.

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01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:56.840
Eighty thousand is a voting block. So it doesn't take

1277
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.320
a lot of people in order to wield this kind

1278
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.679
of influence and power, does it now?

1279
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:03.119
It doesn't.

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Well, look in San Francisco, they have a group called

1281
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:10.039
the Chinese Progressive Association, which works as the agency for

1282
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the Chinese Communist Party. But you cannot get elected to

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01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:18.279
the San Francisco San Francisco City Council without the blessing

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01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:23.560
of the Chinese Progressive Association. Now they have expanded that

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influence that they started in San Francisco into Sacramento, into

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01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:33.880
LA and also into Washington, d C. Through Nancy Pelosi

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and many other people and Gavin Newsom of course, but

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they also the Chinese Progressive Association also runs major voter

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registration organizations and all of the key swing states through

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a group they started called Seed the Vote. They also

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started Black Lives Matter too, by the way, But the

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Seed the Vote claims they won six of the seven

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they did so. It is exact, and see the Vote

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is staffed largely by Democratic Socialists of America members, but

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it's a Chinese operation.

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We're talking about Trevor Louden, the New Zealand author, researchers, speaker,

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and political activists. Yeah. I mean they're bringing in the numbers.

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It's concentrated, it's focused, and they're overwhelming this democratic republic.

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You know, So what should be the strategy of fair

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minded Americans who are looking at the two hundred and

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fiftieth anniversary, you know, less than two weeks away, and

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we're realizing the warning of one Ronald Reagan that said that,

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you know, democracy is you know, we're one generation from

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losing you know, our liberties and our democracy.

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Well, look, this is going to take well it's going

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to take our action, grassroots people getting behind making sure

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that the Demo crats are defeated.

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In the midterm elections.

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That's essential because if they win, and they win the presidency,

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the illegal immigration pipeline starts all up again, the borders

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fly open again. More Muslim immigration in america's finished, you know,

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it's gone, but it's also going to take federal action.

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Now.

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I just noted that one of the leader of the

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Antifa group that attacked an ICE facility in Texas some

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time ago, just got one hundred years jail, one hundred

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years jail, or as co conspirators got between thirty and

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fifty year terms. We got to get serious about going

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after DSA for their illegal activities, for their work for

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foreign powers, and we've got to start prosecuting these people

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actually make this is the modern Communist Party, and we

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know the Communist Party worked for the Soviet Union. They

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had four hundred agents in the Roosevelt administration who did

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all sorts of sabotage on this country, set up the

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United Nations, God are sins of the World Monetary Fund,

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all this kind of garbage that was still suffering from today.

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01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:19.720
These people are actively committing trees and against the United States,

1426
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:23.600
and we need to be setting up hearings to investigate

1427
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:27.920
these people and treat them as the communist foreign backed

1428
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:33.119
communists that they are. So it's the local people have

1429
01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.119
got to defend their own turf. They've got to get

1430
01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:38.159
educated on DSA. They've got to make sure these people

1431
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.720
don't get elected. But we do need federal action. We

1432
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:45.800
need to treat this as a as a national security threat,

1433
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:46.399
which it is.

1434
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:51.279
Well, I think some of the inherent problem for the

1435
01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:57.359
masses is Trevor, they don't understand democratic socialist. It sounds

1436
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:01.520
it's you know, it just sounds you know, well, it's

1437
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.399
you know, like it's Democratic Party related, and they're confused.

1438
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:07.600
They don't get it. I mean it's almost like we

1439
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:12.119
need to retitle the dssay to the Democratic Communists.

1440
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:16.319
Yeah, yeah, we need to brand them as Look, they

1441
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:20.079
say it themselves that they are communists. You know, the

1442
01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:24.079
difference between democratic socialism and communism is essentially three to

1443
01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:24.880
five years.

1444
01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:27.119
Yes, that's what it is.

1445
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.880
And look, they have cross membership with the Communist Party

1446
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:35.319
USA and Liberation Road, the Freedom Road socialist organization. They

1447
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:39.119
have several communist groups operating within their court. In their ranks,

1448
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:42.439
they have a Communist Caucus. One of their co leaders

1449
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.239
is a member of that. As I've said, they work

1450
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:50.760
with Brazilian communists, European communists, Chinese communists. They have very

1451
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:55.920
deep connections to the Cuban communists. Now very deep and

1452
01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:59.960
the Venezuelan Communists as well, all enemies of America they

1453
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.319
work with. So we need to be going after these

1454
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:07.640
people in prosecuting them as acting as unregistered agents of

1455
01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:13.359
foreign powers, for espionage, for subversion several of them. Look

1456
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:18.680
one of their members served fifteen seventeen years in jail

1457
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:22.359
for spying for the Soviet Union in East Germany. Was

1458
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:26.199
prosecuted in the nineties, got out of jail straight back

1459
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:29.960
into DSA. Now he's a leader of the Washington DC branch.

1460
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:34.840
They took him straight back. A convicted traitor who sold

1461
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:40.039
military secrets to our enemies was welcomed back into DSA,

1462
01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:46.000
guy called Kurt Stand. Him and his wife and his buddy.

1463
01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:50.159
Three of them all got prosecuted, all got fifteen to

1464
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:54.079
twenty one years jail, but Kurt Stand was allowed straight

1465
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:55.840
back in, as was his daughter.

1466
01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:57.319
She's in DSA as well.

1467
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:01.319
Yeah, the character of these people is is so noted.

1468
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:05.000
Even Mike Johnson was speaking about it in saying that

1469
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:10.359
you've got the one bang in California refuses to say

1470
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:14.840
the pledge of allegiance. You've got Hemingway out of New Jersey,

1471
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:19.840
ties to al Qaeda and other terrorists. Chevalier wants to

1472
01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:27.359
abolish the border Mendoza Arizona, decriminalized trans prostitution, whatever that is.

1473
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:32.439
James and Iowa wants to apologize for being white, and

1474
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:38.359
Garyott and Iowa performed a Satanist wedding. These are anti

1475
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.319
American people. And this is what we've been saying on

1476
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:42.960
the show is that you need to look at it

1477
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.840
through the prism of either their pro American or the

1478
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:50.079
anti American. And the good news is, you know, here

1479
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:52.479
for many years, like you say, almost twenty years, Trevor,

1480
01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:56.439
you've been yelling from the timbers about democratic socialists that

1481
01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.119
were in our government. But they kept themselves in the

1482
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:02.079
closet because of Mom Donny. I guess we can be

1483
01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:05.399
grateful for Mam Donny getting elected in New York. They're

1484
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:08.199
loud and proud and they're out of the closet full blown.

1485
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:11.880
Well absolutely that they got four members on the la

1486
01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.680
City Council, four on the Portland, Oregon City Council, hundreds

1487
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:21.960
of state legislators, reps, school board members, several members in Congress.

1488
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:25.239
They should have up to maybe eight to ten members

1489
01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:29.000
of Congress. And the next in the next session, you know,

1490
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:33.199
probably Cory Bush out in Missouri, Mae Vang, who just

1491
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:40.000
mentioned out in Sacramento, who wouldn't support America. They're talking about.

1492
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:42.680
Their new policy has just come out, abolished to Senate A,

1493
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:46.720
bolished the presidency, make Puerto Rico state, made Washington d

1494
01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:50.720
C Estate. Why make Puerto Rico and Washington d C estate?

1495
01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:54.840
Because why make Washington d C and Puerto Rico states?

1496
01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:59.199
Because that's two more left wing senators from each one,

1497
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:04.359
which will give the Democrats, which are controlled by DSA,

1498
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:09.159
a non assailable majority. So you know, they're playing a

1499
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:11.920
very long strategic game. But the point I keep on

1500
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:17.119
emphasizing is they are foreign backed, they are foreign agents.

1501
01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:21.119
This is not just an American phenomenon. This is an

1502
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:23.520
international communist phenomenon.

1503
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:25.680
And people need to understand. You know, if you want

1504
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:26.960
to know what somebody is going to do, look what

1505
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:31.119
they've done. And the socialists are not concerned about the individual.

1506
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:33.640
You know, this is why Karen Basker care less what's

1507
01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:36.479
happening in LA with people that are suffering still without

1508
01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:41.680
homes and may never get home again, because she's a socialist.

1509
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:45.439
She's citing with this group of people. But that's their nature.

1510
01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:49.239
It's not about the people. It's about power and control.

1511
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:51.560
It's about their infrastructure, right.

1512
01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:55.840
Exactly, It's all about Persy. Mandami right now is stacking,

1513
01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:00.000
is stacking the New York City government with one hundred

1514
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:03.079
of his people. So even if he's not the mayor

1515
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:08.239
the next the next you know, we'll have the same thing.

1516
01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:12.159
See David Dinkins back in the early nineties was also

1517
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:17.479
a DSA member, and under Dinkins he didn't enforce the laws.

1518
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:22.279
The streets were filthy. Times Square was full of prostitutes

1519
01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:25.560
and drug addicts, and the tourists stayed away. That was

1520
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:31.279
New York's lowest point under a DSA mayor, and Giuliani

1521
01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:34.039
had to come and to fix it up. But Mandarmi

1522
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:38.079
is ten times worse than Dinkins. This is way way

1523
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:41.399
bigger now. Back in those days, DSA was six thousand members.

1524
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:45.079
Now it's one hundred thousand members. You know, in the

1525
01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:48.960
Los Angeles you mentioned Karen Bass, very deeply tied to

1526
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:53.439
the Cubans, a former Marlist, a former DSA supporter herself,

1527
01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.800
and her main opponent is Nithya Rahman, who is a

1528
01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:00.560
DSA member. So you got communists versus socialist we really

1529
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:05.319
got two communists on the ballot exactly. Darryl Gates, who

1530
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:08.600
was the mayor of Los Angeles, ys are the police

1531
01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:13.119
chief a very good one, accused Karen Bass of running

1532
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:18.000
Cuban weapons to Los Angeles gangs back.

1533
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:21.920
In the day. And now the woman is mayor. You know,

1534
01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:23.079
can you believe that? You know?

1535
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:26.199
But the media is so weak and so compliant that

1536
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:29.000
the voters never hear this kind of stuff.

1537
01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.119
And we mount up and wake up here, Trevor, that's

1538
01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:33.039
the call, right.

1539
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:36.239
It is, And you know it's been so Pratt was

1540
01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:41.199
loudly talking about DSA and his campaign against Karen Bass,

1541
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:44.840
but you know, nine points ahead an election night, and

1542
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:48.079
now now he's out of the race because of the

1543
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:51.840
ballots that came. And this is what takes federal action.

1544
01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:55.319
You cannot clean up the vote frauds, you cannot clean

1545
01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:59.000
up the corruption, you cannot clean up the socialism from

1546
01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:01.880
California or from Illinois.

1547
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:03.560
You've got to do this federally.

1548
01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:07.680
This is a federal problem, and only the feeds can

1549
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:08.199
fix us.

1550
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:11.640
Exactly. Well, he's a New Zealand author, researcher, speaker, and

1551
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.439
political activist. Trevor is always appreciate the time. Thank you

1552
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:16.359
for being with us. Take care, God speed, my friend.

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out Bill Martinez Live dot com. Hey, we're gonna have

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Karen Collins, says doctor Ian jamonco with us because we're

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And I got to tell you, Karen, Ian, we couldn't

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in my Hawaiian shirt because I'm coming to you live

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Great to see and be with you.

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Yeah, well, great to have you here. So I mentioned

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Maley White because I'm here in Lehina, which we know

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This is one of the side of you know what

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Right, And Karen, you know, as I was flying out,

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you know, I'm seeing all kinds of fire, wildfires breaking

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out in the mainland of America as well.

1653
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Right, we are seeing a well above active season so far.

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I think with the number of fires that are burning,

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1656
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Well, as Ian said, these wildfire risks are escalating as

1659
01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:14.600
development expands into fire prone areas. Environmental conditions make fires

1660
01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:18.479
easier to ignite, faster to spread, and more destructive. And Karen,

1661
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:22.840
according to twenty twenty five Fatality Report, nearly two point

1662
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:26.000
six million homes in the Western United States face moderate

1663
01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:31.920
our higher wildfire risk, with an estimated combined reconstruction costs

1664
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:35.920
of one point three trillion. This comes as a very

1665
01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:38.960
loud and clear warning, right, doctor Jimonco.

1666
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:42.600
Yeah, that's exactly right. We've got rising costs. I'll let

1667
01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:44.439
Karen talk about the things you can you know, we

1668
01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:47.239
can look for in our insurance. But yeah, if we

1669
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:50.079
look back, especially in the post COVID environment, we've seen

1670
01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:53.439
inflation really drive up the entire building materials chain as

1671
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:56.039
well as the labor market. And I'll let Karen talk

1672
01:30:56.079 --> 01:30:58.119
a little bit about some of the insurance implications that

1673
01:30:58.119 --> 01:30:58.800
have come with that.

1674
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:01.840
Yeah, please arn about what we can do to prevent

1675
01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:03.079
under insurance ran.

1676
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:08.479
Yeah, too often we overestimate our preparedness for these types

1677
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:11.000
of events when they happen so suddenly. I think we've

1678
01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:15.239
seen over eighteen thousand structures just in the last year

1679
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:18.640
with the eaton and palisates fire in California, and of

1680
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:21.560
course the Mali fire, and we've seen the Colorado Marshall Fire,

1681
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:25.840
a lot of these big events. With inflation, recently, we

1682
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:28.920
have seen the cost to rebuild surge. I think it's

1683
01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.319
forty seven percent higher for both building materials and labor

1684
01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:36.000
since January of twenty twenty. And that puts a lot

1685
01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:39.000
of pressure on do you have enough in your policy

1686
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:42.880
so that annual insurance check up go over your policy

1687
01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:47.000
limits and coverage at minimal annually. Make sure the policy

1688
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:50.079
reflect your square footage, the materials of your home. Talk

1689
01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:54.159
about the optional features like extended replacement cost coverage, organce

1690
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:56.960
and law coverage, and additional living expense coverage. All of

1691
01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:01.399
those can boost the amount of financial limits available in

1692
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:05.159
your rebuild. But details also matter. Know what your policy covers.

1693
01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:08.159
Is it a replacement cost policy that pays to replace

1694
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:10.840
all your items at current market price? Or is it

1695
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:13.960
an actual cash value policy that may take depreciation into

1696
01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:17.840
account and pays less for those aged items exactly done

1697
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.399
home improvements, make sure those are reflected as well. It

1698
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:23.960
comes down to that conversation with your company or your agent.

1699
01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:27.680
Yeah, you don't know until you know. Sadly, in talking

1700
01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:32.439
with the people here in a Lahina. In some cases, sadly, Karen,

1701
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:35.159
people who have had these homes for generations and they

1702
01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:37.840
didn't keep up with their policies, and all of a

1703
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:41.439
sudden they find out that their policies cannot rebuild their

1704
01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:44.279
homes and they're having to sadly sell their property.

1705
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:47.520
And we see that so often, and that is a

1706
01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:49.399
perfect example of why you want to make sure you

1707
01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:53.079
maintain coverage. We will see also those that have retired

1708
01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:55.199
and they pay off that mortgage and they don't feel

1709
01:32:55.239 --> 01:32:57.760
that it's needed to keep that policy in place. But

1710
01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:01.239
that is a very unfortunate example of you want to

1711
01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:05.399
maintain that financial safety. That insurance really is your primary

1712
01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:09.840
recovery resource. You know, there may be federal disaster grants,

1713
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:13.000
but they're never going to be enough to fully rebuild

1714
01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:16.640
and often that takes additional time and what you can recover,

1715
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:21.880
and so insurance is your best resource financially, and not

1716
01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:23.920
just for those that own a home. You know, if

1717
01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:26.239
you are a renter or if you own a condo,

1718
01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:29.600
renters can lose everything in a fire just like home owner,

1719
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:32.560
So you want to look at you know, shop around

1720
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:35.600
is very easy to bundle your insurance including renters or

1721
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:37.520
home owners, with your auto policy and it makes for

1722
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:40.720
a very more affordable rate when you do that. And

1723
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:44.239
so these are important conversations to have, and you want

1724
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:46.520
to do it before the event happens.

1725
01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:50.680
That's the key, right exactly. And you know, as they say,

1726
01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:53.319
it takes a village, right. I mean, also part of

1727
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:57.680
this approach holistically is how communities can come together and

1728
01:33:57.720 --> 01:33:59.119
take collective action, right.

1729
01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:03.800
So that's how you get the best fighting chance. And

1730
01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:06.399
you can start again, start with your own home and

1731
01:34:06.439 --> 01:34:09.119
start doing some of those the things that we could

1732
01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:11.239
talk about about how to make your home ready for

1733
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:13.199
the next fire. But when you do it with your neighbors,

1734
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:17.760
your whole block, your whole neighborhood, You've not only changed

1735
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:22.520
your one piece of that puzzle, You've changed the entire landscape.

1736
01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:25.479
You've turned your neighborhood into something that is a defense

1737
01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:29.000
system against that fire. It's going to make fire fighting

1738
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:32.359
efforts much more effective. It's going to slow fire progress

1739
01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:35.800
and then even the best case scenario, you might even

1740
01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:40.119
turn your neighborhood it will act more like a fire break, yes,

1741
01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:43.439
and it's going to really change outcomes in mass So

1742
01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:46.319
this is one thing. Start start with your own home,

1743
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:49.439
but start talking to your neighbors. Start talking with your neighborhood,

1744
01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:52.920
and think about how you start putting this whole puzzle

1745
01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:57.359
system together. And I think that will show that we

1746
01:34:57.520 --> 01:34:59.560
can do this. When we do it all together, we

1747
01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:00.720
can make a big difference.

1748
01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:04.000
Well, doctor Jamonco, I think you know, anecdotally, people are

1749
01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:09.239
surprised how logical, common sensical, and at the same time

1750
01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:12.439
even how easy some of these things to do that

1751
01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:14.640
really fortify your homes.

1752
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:17.079
Right, yeah, so Bill, you know, you think about the

1753
01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:19.359
things we've talked about over the years on this show.

1754
01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.439
Is it comes to things like wind it there's a

1755
01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:24.000
lot of structural elements what you have to do well.

1756
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:26.960
Wildfire is a bit different. There's a lot of actions

1757
01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.880
you can take your cell that generally do make a

1758
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.920
lot of sense. Right the first five foot of landscaping

1759
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:37.119
around your home, that's that critical area where embers pile up.

1760
01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.479
So get things that burn out of that area. Get

1761
01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:44.159
those fence gates that are combustible, replace it with metal.

1762
01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:48.279
Things like protecting your vents with eighth inch mesh screen

1763
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:51.399
to make sure embers can't get inside and ignite things.

1764
01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:54.359
From the inside out. So these are if we think about, hey,

1765
01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.039
I got a lot of embers attacking my home and

1766
01:35:57.119 --> 01:35:59.920
I want to break the chain of fire coming at

1767
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.239
my house, you start to make a lot of sense, right.

1768
01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:05.760
It's like, I want to remove all those weakest links

1769
01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.640
and if I put that system together, my home's gonna

1770
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:10.359
have a really good fighting chance. And we just hit

1771
01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:12.319
the idea, if you do it, your neighbors do it,

1772
01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:15.439
your whole neighborhood does it. You have changed the entire

1773
01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:17.279
outcome for a whole community.

1774
01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:21.399
Yeah, you fortified yourself. And also talk about curbapill.

1775
01:36:22.119 --> 01:36:24.119
Yeah, so I think you know, landscape is such a

1776
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:27.760
huge deal in becoming wildfire ready or prepared for the fire,

1777
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.520
because it is it brings that chain of fire to

1778
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.640
our home or it breaks it. Right, So first five

1779
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:35.479
feet get the things that can burn out of it.

1780
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:40.159
After that you're talking about spacing those vegetation elements and man,

1781
01:36:40.199 --> 01:36:43.239
people have come up with some beautiful ideas about how

1782
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:46.880
to do this. I love personally, like the hard scapes

1783
01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:48.880
where you use a lot of pavers and pee gravel

1784
01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:49.920
to create that trail.

1785
01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:52.000
Look that to me really appeals.

1786
01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:53.840
I know some people might not like that. But I

1787
01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:56.800
would say, look out there, you'll see homes that have

1788
01:36:56.960 --> 01:36:59.960
these these landscape mitigation actions done and you don't even rea.

1789
01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:02.880
You're just sitting there thinking, hey, these are really cool.

1790
01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:05.960
I want to do that. I think it looks great.

1791
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:09.279
I'm just like everybody else, right, I love landscaping. That's

1792
01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:11.800
one of my big hobbies around my house, and I'm

1793
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:15.680
always looking for ideas, so check them out. Landscape architects

1794
01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:18.239
can have ideas your landscaper if you'd say, hey, I've

1795
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:20.000
saved up the money, I want to have somebody else

1796
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:23.199
do this, or you're just looking for ideas of how

1797
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:25.720
to do it yourself. So lots of options out there,

1798
01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:28.279
and this stuff plays a really big role in breaking

1799
01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:30.199
that chain of fire exactly.

1800
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:34.000
Doctor Ian Giamonco is a Managing director of Atmospheric Science

1801
01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:38.079
Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety and Karen Collins

1802
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.520
the property insurance and natural disaster expert.

1803
01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:41.079
Karen.

1804
01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:44.880
As we wrap things up, remind everybody why it's so

1805
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:49.239
important to you know, to speak with your agents, to

1806
01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:54.319
get the right council in preparation. Preparation is so key

1807
01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:55.399
in all this, right.

1808
01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.600
You don't want to be caught surprised after the event

1809
01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:02.640
has happened. So that conversation beforehand is so critical. And

1810
01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:04.359
it's not just you know, for fire, go over your

1811
01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:07.359
current coverage, but also we have a super El Nino

1812
01:38:07.439 --> 01:38:09.880
forecaster for this year that maybe record breaking. We've got

1813
01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:13.680
an active Pacific ring of fire with seismic activity and earthquakes.

1814
01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:17.520
Talk about what other coverage gaps you might have. You

1815
01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:20.800
might need a flood insurance policy or an earthquake insurance policy,

1816
01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:24.199
which are usually separate from your main policy. These are

1817
01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:27.359
the conversations you want to be proactive about. Don't set

1818
01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:29.920
it and forget it and assume and then leave yourself

1819
01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:32.479
exposed and do a home inventory also to create a

1820
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.159
record of what you have, because that's the simple step

1821
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:37.640
in the aftermath should something happen.

1822
01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:41.199
Where can our viewers go for more information, Karen for.

1823
01:38:41.199 --> 01:38:45.119
All the financial tips, you know, inventory steps and the

1824
01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:50.439
conversation I have, go to www dot APCI dot org

1825
01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:53.760
slash wildfire and we've got some links to some other

1826
01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:57.000
great websites, including a my resulent home website that'll give

1827
01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:01.079
you some great testimonials pictures. If you're looking for some

1828
01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:04.279
extra creative inspiration on how to go about everything that

1829
01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:06.000
we've talked about today well.

1830
01:39:06.079 --> 01:39:09.840
Karen Collins, property insurance and natural disaster expert, and doctor

1831
01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:12.399
Ian Jimonco have been our guest. He's managing director of

1832
01:39:12.439 --> 01:39:16.560
Atmospheric Science Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety. Thank

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01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:18.039
you both appreciate the information.

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Take care absolutely thanks.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with plugged ins

1907
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Adam Holtz. Adam, how are you doing, Buddy till I'm great.

1908
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How are you doing?

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Hey, I'm in Alohaville here in Mali, Hawaii. I mean,

1910
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you go, it's all good, you know, spending time with

1911
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the grandkids and the daughter unit, you know, so it's

1912
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all good. Here. We've got a movie that is a

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buzz odyssey coming up.

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Yeah, I mean it has gotten an extraordinary amount of publicity,

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some really good, some about as bad as you could

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ever not hope for if you were making a movie. Obviously,

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The Odyssey is Homer's epic and it stars Matt Damon

1918
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and as as Odysseus uh and Tom Holland as his

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son Telemachus, and Hathaway is Penelope, his wife. This is

1920
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a very very loose retelling of the story, and it's

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based on a more recent and by some accounts, more

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progressive translation that places more emphasis on female characters, and

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and that's been some of the controversy.

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Here as well.

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Helen of Troy is played by Lapida Nango, and obviously

1926
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:44.560
she's an African American, and people have had things to

1927
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say about that. Elliott Page, who used to be Ellen Page,

1928
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you know, plays Achilles, and so, you know, we've had

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lots of conversation about why I why do we need

1930
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to race and sort of gender swap, although sort of

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not because Elliott Page has already done a gender swap

1932
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of sorts, and so that has been the run up

1933
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to it has been just scathing, scathing, you know, responses

1934
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from the online community, much of which tends to lean

1935
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culturally conservative. In some of those spaces. But in contrast,

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I looked at it this morning, it was at ninety

1937
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six percent on Rotten Tomatoes. So, I mean, the mainstream

1938
01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:37.239
critics have absolutely adored it, which just plays into some

1939
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of the conversation online, which is, you know, they're all

1940
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bought and paid for, and so you can't exactly, you

1941
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can't trust their reviews. Now.

1942
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Yeah, once they start putting their elbow on the scale

1943
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like that, then the people resented all the more. Yeah,

1944
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and you start just hearing the cash register ring in

1945
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the wrong direction, Yeah, that's right.

1946
01:45:56.079 --> 01:45:58.680
And you know a couple other salient details here. This

1947
01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:02.479
is a Christopher Nolan movie. Doesn't make truly bad movies.

1948
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Sometimes he makes movies that have soundtracks that are too

1949
01:46:06.279 --> 01:46:08.920
loud and you can't hear the dialogue very well. I mean,

1950
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he's not without some habits that are a little bit annoying.

1951
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This is a three hour movie, so you know, plan accordingly,

1952
01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:20.640
and if you're a man of a certain age, you

1953
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know what I'm talking about exactly.

1954
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Don't drink coke.

1955
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For three hours before you see this one. And the

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other thing that actually kind of surprised me, although it

1957
01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:33.680
shouldn't have, is this is an R rated movie. I

1958
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think that we've sort of gotten used to, you know,

1959
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with the exception of Oppenheimer, most of Christopher Nolan's stuff

1960
01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:42.159
has been PG thirteen. This is an R rated movie

1961
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primarily for violence and you know, for some language as well.

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I would say, as R rated movies go, this one

1963
01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:53.680
sort of tiptoes into that territory.

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You know, we got a soft R.

1965
01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:57.600
Yeah, I mean we get three F words, which almost

1966
01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:00.319
feels like, you know, they added that third one in

1967
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just to make sure they got an our rating. And

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so I don't think it's a deal killer, but I

1969
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do think it might be surprising to some people. And

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it's interesting why they made that choice, because there's so

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much evidence statistically that pgm PG thirteen movies do far

1972
01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:22.079
better at the box office than our rated movies do.

1973
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But maybe they're emboldened by how well Oppenheimer did two

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years ago, and it did a billion dollars. So we'll

1975
01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:33.319
have to see how it does. Which of those narratives

1976
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ends up winning the day. We felt like it was

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a pretty solid, entertaining and engaging movie with some heroic

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elements as you would expect, and actually Odysseus is a

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01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:49.399
little bit more monogamous and heroic here than he actually

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is in the Odyssey. He's not a very likable character really.

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In the Odyssey, he's really really arrogant. He's kind of

1982
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a philanderer, and they've actually made him, i think, more approachable.

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So you could make the argument from a family friendly

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01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:07.760
perspective that there are some elements here that are more

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redemptive than the original. So that's the Odyssey. We'll have

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to see how it plays out.

1987
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Well, you know, you wonder how much longer, you know,

1988
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because you've got a lot of money invested in these movies,

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I mean big money, Yeah, I mean I think it's

1990
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very risky right now to be investing in some of

1991
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those movies where you've got absolutely you know, the creative

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control is handed over to people that you know are

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still stuck in their woke mindset.

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Well, and depending again on how you listen, who you

1995
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listen to, and I will confess I listen to a

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lot of stuff on YouTube, people sort of you know,

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parsing what's going on behind the scenes. Yeah, And there's

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some chatter that this was intentional, that there are people

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who want to keep forcing that perspective, and that they

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pushed Christopher Nolan in that way. I'm sure if you

2001
01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:03.720
said that to his face, he would take issue with

2002
01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:05.680
it or say, no, that's my perspective.

2003
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But we'll see.

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But to your point, this is probably a three to

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four hundred million dollar production plus another one hundred to

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01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:20.560
two hundred million in marketing costs. So one of the

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01:49:20.600 --> 01:49:23.279
guys I listened to on online said, you know, this

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thing has to make a billion dollars before it makes

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a dollar. Just the break even point is a is

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a cool billion, and not very many movies get to

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that level.

2012
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So it could make.

2013
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Eight hundred million dollars and still be considered a flop

2014
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because it would lose two hundred million in the end.

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Yeah, how has the year been so far? If you

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had a chance to look at it to see in

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terms of box office.

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You know, the year has been just sort of one

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01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:50.840
stinker after another. I haven't looked at like the year

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01:49:50.880 --> 01:49:54.960
to year box office compared to last year. But you know,

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01:49:55.079 --> 01:49:59.640
Moana came out last week. It grossly underperformed Supergirl, grossly

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01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:04.720
under performed Mandalorian and Grogu underperformed. And I think that

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01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:08.880
what we are seeing from the American public is a

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deep fatigue, not just with rehashed superhero movies. I think

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01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:18.720
maybe we have finally reached our sequel, reboot, remake threshold,

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where you know, Hollywood used to say, we could take

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01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:24.920
an established, you know, property and just throw it at

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01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:27.000
people and there would be a floor. You know, the

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thing would make three hundred million dollars, even if it

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01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:32.600
was horrible. I think the public has wised up. I

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think we're tired of that. And I think that we

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are in an age where there are so many things

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that we can do on screens that if I have

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to pay fifteen bucks for a ticket or twenty for

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01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:47.439
an IMAX ticket, and I have to drive somewhere and

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01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:49.279
I have to watch a half an hour previews and

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01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:52.800
sit through a three hour movie, you're talking like a

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01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:55.279
four hour time commitment, and you might spend one hundred

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01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:57.199
bucks if you and your wife go and get snacks.

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01:50:57.359 --> 01:51:00.640
And so I think people are saying, now there's a

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01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:04.640
better entertainment proposition just scrolling through Netflix or Amazon Prime

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01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:08.319
to see what's on there. So I think Hollywood is

2043
01:51:08.359 --> 01:51:11.319
slowly waking up to that. But man, we've had a

2044
01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:12.479
lot of stinkers this year.

2045
01:51:13.039 --> 01:51:16.520
Well, you know, You're exactly right in terms of the universe.

2046
01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:19.640
The alternatives that are available to people today is like,

2047
01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:21.399
you know, why go through all that?

2048
01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:22.039
Right?

2049
01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:24.760
Well, And one of the things that we have seen

2050
01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:27.520
two of the huge success stories in the last month

2051
01:51:27.640 --> 01:51:31.479
or so have been two horror movies, back Rooms and Obsession,

2052
01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:35.239
both of which have their roots and YouTube creators. And

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01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:38.720
so even as Hollywood can't figure out how to give

2054
01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:42.600
us anything creative or new or interesting, we do have

2055
01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:46.920
people who have you know, they have sort of done

2056
01:51:47.159 --> 01:51:50.520
a concept test on these things online and they are

2057
01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:54.119
translating that into massive returns. Here you had two movies

2058
01:51:54.119 --> 01:51:58.239
that didn't cost anything making two three hundred million dollars.

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01:51:58.760 --> 01:52:00.880
So I think there is a hunger out there for

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01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:03.680
original content. And those movies both have a lot of problems,

2061
01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:08.199
So don't hear me praising them. But yeah, it's it's

2062
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:11.760
hard to get people's attention and it's hard to sustain it.

2063
01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:14.319
But I think we're just tired of the rehashed stuff.

2064
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:18.439
What about you know, the people of faith, Adam, I mean,

2065
01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:20.760
you know, plugged in dot com. I mean that this

2066
01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:23.960
is your core audience. I mean, how are they responding?

2067
01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:27.880
I mean, you have an article on plugged in dot

2068
01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:32.840
com whether or not Christians should watch and say Mowana.

2069
01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:36.199
Yeah, yeah, And we have that sort of an ongoing

2070
01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:39.960
series that we have, and I think that what we

2071
01:52:40.039 --> 01:52:42.760
do it plugged in is we want to give you,

2072
01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:46.640
as you know, a consumer, as a viewer, as a fan,

2073
01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:49.880
the information you need to make the best decisions. So

2074
01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:53.119
Mowana is an interesting case study and that you have

2075
01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:56.359
a heroic, fun movie, but.

2076
01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:58.520
As you know, you're in Hawaii, it.

2077
01:52:58.399 --> 01:53:03.760
Is it's drenched in Polynesian spirituality. Some people will say

2078
01:53:04.640 --> 01:53:07.319
that's a non starter. Some people will say, well, you know,

2079
01:53:07.399 --> 01:53:10.880
we've made Greek and Roman and Nordic mythology movies forever

2080
01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:15.239
and we don't really think too seriously about that. So

2081
01:53:15.319 --> 01:53:20.720
I think with Mowana especially, that's the biggest content concern

2082
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:24.399
and some violence in the remake. But this thing is

2083
01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:26.279
going to be gone. It's going to drop like a

2084
01:53:26.359 --> 01:53:29.520
rock into the Pacific Ocean because nobody went to see

2085
01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:30.960
it last year or last weekend.

2086
01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:31.439
Excuse me.

2087
01:53:31.479 --> 01:53:32.039
It's going to do.

2088
01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:35.159
It's on track to even do worse than Snow White,

2089
01:53:35.239 --> 01:53:39.720
which is one of Disney's biggest failures recently. So people

2090
01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:41.000
don't want to see it. They don't care.

2091
01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:44.119
Yeah, I mean it's amazing to me that these big

2092
01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:47.439
companies have not gotten in step with the culture. I

2093
01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:49.920
mean it's the old saying, you know, go woke, go broke,

2094
01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:53.680
and they so now they can you know, like all

2095
01:53:54.439 --> 01:53:56.840
you know socialists in that is that we've just never

2096
01:53:56.880 --> 01:54:00.520
spent enough money. We just haven't been there enough. You know,

2097
01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:01.880
we'll just keep drilling.

2098
01:54:02.199 --> 01:54:05.119
Right well, and it proves the old saying, you know,

2099
01:54:05.119 --> 01:54:07.439
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and

2100
01:54:07.479 --> 01:54:09.239
hoping for a different result, right.

2101
01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:13.920
Right, yeh, yeah, So I don't know. So what about streaming.

2102
01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:18.520
So streaming, here's an interesting one. I thought about playing

2103
01:54:18.560 --> 01:54:20.479
name that Tune with you, but I'm not a good

2104
01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:25.720
enough singer to pull it off. Over on Netflix, we

2105
01:54:25.960 --> 01:54:31.000
have a reboot, speaking of reboots, of Little House on

2106
01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:34.600
the Prairie of all things, And I say of all things,

2107
01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:38.359
because man, we have mined the seventies and eighties almost

2108
01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:41.159
completely at this point. But that one, I as soon

2109
01:54:41.199 --> 01:54:44.239
as I saw it pop up, I'm like, well, yeah,

2110
01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:46.640
that's not a surprise. That was a beloved show. It's

2111
01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:50.039
a beloved series obviously based on Laura Engel Wilder's life

2112
01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:54.640
and some fictionalization of what actually happened. But we get

2113
01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:59.319
the story of the Engles clan moving from Wisconsin to

2114
01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:04.079
Southwest Kansas to Homestead and you know, and I believe

2115
01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:07.720
the late eighteen eighties, and they face all sorts of

2116
01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:13.520
harsh realities living on the prairie. I think it's terrific

2117
01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:17.279
that Netflix has done it. It's a pretty I think

2118
01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:21.520
it's a faithful sort of attempt at revisiting this beloved property.

2119
01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:26.720
Obviously it's hard to replace Michael Landon. Yeah, as you know,

2120
01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:31.079
Papa Ingles. But yeah, this is a nice show. And

2121
01:55:31.439 --> 01:55:35.520
heaven knows, we don't get to say that very often exactly.

2122
01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:38.239
Well, what we do get to say is that that's

2123
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a wrap. So tell everybody where they need to go

2124
01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:41.399
for more information.

2125
01:55:41.479 --> 01:55:44.319
Adam Holtz, you can come to plugged in dot com

2126
01:55:44.359 --> 01:55:46.159
and we will give you everything you need to know

2127
01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:51.560
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01:55:51.720 --> 01:55:53.840
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