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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, okay, us do an Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now, Bill Martinez here with Kennon Speedback, the founder and chairman of the SMI Group, LLC and international consulting firm and investment bank. Kennon, good morning to you. How are you, good morning? Thanks for having me back. Well, always good to have you back. A couple of things just in the news, Lindsay Graham's sudden passing. I mean here we were thinking that, you know, Mitch McConnell possibly, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Lindsey Graham is out. And of course you know here he was a champion for Donald Trump. We don't we don't need to lose any more, you know, people that are supporting the MAGA agenda and things that we've been needing to get past, like you know, like the Save Act.

1:00 Lindsay's passing is really very bad. I met him several times. He was such a gentleman. He was the funniest person, the funniest senator certainly that I've ever met, and there are so many things that he was in the center of. He was a terrific Trump supporter, but you know, he also sometimes got Trump a little exasperated in his strong support for Israel and Ukraine and even NATO. He was a NATO supporter. And what people don't realize about Lindsay is that in the Gang of Fourteen, in the Gang of Eight, in the Gang of Ten, he was in the center of all sorts of bipartisan efforts to cross over on the divide. He was a terrific, terrific person and a fantastic senator.

1:52 Right, of course, we're still waiting to see who the governor is going to appoint because you know, I don't think there'll be a special election until the normal election because we need somebody they're representing South Carolina in the meantime. Right, Yeah, he's going to appoint someone today. Some people think that maybe Lindsay's sister Darlene, which makes some sense, because we can't afford to have any member of the House leave the House to become the interim senator. If the interim senator is not a so called caretaker, meaning someone who's not intending to run, that person gets an advantage.

2:33 I think a lot of people might be quite happy to see Lindsay's sister appointed for this six month period. I think that makes sense because it preserves the space and doesn't necessarily threaten what we've already got, which is we're basically on thin ice a little bit anyway right now going into these final what have we got about maybe twenty days left of the Senate being able to meet before before the midterms. Yeah, it's critical that we have a Republican vote in there, and we don't want a Republican vote from someone who's not knowledgeable and intelligent. And Lindsay's sister has been involved with his campaigns and been involved in various things he's done.

3:18 I don't know that you would be qualified to be the permanent senator from South Carolina, but she certainly qualified to handle the job for the remaining period. And there's ample precedent for appointing the spouse of a congress person or senator who passes away. Well, and it's not like the staff is gone, and the staff has all the background and all the information, so that's still in play, right. Yeah, again, And I don't know that the government is going to appoint Darlene. But one of the benefits is she doesn't have her own staff. She'll work with Lindsay's staff. It will enhance the transition. If you were to appoint a congress person, that congress person has his or her staff.

3:58 So exactly to wait a little bit later today to see what happens, and maybe it won't be Darlene, but if it is, I think that'll be a good choice. And there are other good choices too. What's important is the primary that will take place in a few weeks to find Lindsey's successor as the permanent Republican nominee, and it will be very important that that person be elected. How's her How politically savvy is she? I don't know how savvy she is, but she's knowledgeable. She's been around Lindsay and his campaign. She's been a bit of an advisor. So I'm going to stay with knowledgeable and not go all the way up to savvy.

4:44 Right, Okay, very good. I want to talk birthright citizenship confusion still remains after you know, the decision by the Supreme Court. What say you? All? Right? So I had an article today in Real Clear Politics, and what I said there is exactly what I believe, that the Constitution of the United States does not prohibit barring from birthright citizenship the children of illegal immigrants or the children of people here temporarily. The people here temporarily may well be here legally, they could be tourists. The Supreme Court instead held that, based on a four hundred and eighteen year old British case about feudal servitude, and based on an eighteen ninety eight case which is fairly well known Wong Kim ark about legal the children of legal immigrants, that the only exceptions that Congress was allowed to implement were exceptions for children of diplomats, invaders, and children born on boats. That was a bizarre one, and that there are no other exceptions. There can be no other exception, and based on that that the prohibition of birthright citizenship for illegal immigrant children or temporary visitor children is unconstitutional. It is a crazy and bizarre decision. The

6:14 decision on temporary visitors only got five justices. The decision on illegal immigrant children got six justices. And they're thinking couldn't have been more wrong because this case on which they relied said over and over again that its decision was premised on the children here born here being the children of legal foreign immigrants and being domiciled in the US, which tourists are not. It's a bizarre decision. Well, the other thing is, the big question was under the jurisdiction thereof right, Well, if you're a citizen of another country just because you're born here, does that, you know, take the jurisdiction issue out of play. Aren't they still under the jurisdiction of their home country?

7:08 All right? Yes? So now what you're going back to, which is the way the Supreme Court really should have listened or heard this case, was to say that the Supreme Court precedents that it cited, by the way, one of which the slaughter House cases decided just five years after the fourteenth Amendment, also said that children of taurusts could not be US citizens. I mean, there's a difference between illegal immigrant children and tourist children, and the outcome doesn't have to be the same for both. So what you've said is, all right, let's assume that none of these precedents are on point, none of these presidents are on point. So let's go back and figure this out from the start.

7:52 The way the Court should have done it if it even had to go back and look at the Constitution, which really it did not because of some federal statutes that are on point. But if we go back and look at the Constitution, I think the answer is we don't know. That there was no discussion of what that phrase meant at that time, that it was not a well drafted phrase, and that we could debate from now until the cows come home. Did it mean the sole jurisdiction of the US. Did it mean the primary jurisdiction of the US. Did it mean a little team see little bit the jurisdiction of the US. And so I'm going to say the fairest answer is we don't know, which means that probably the best outcome would have been to say, we're going to allow Congress to decide which one of the other sections of the Fourteenth Amendment says that Congress ought to, through its legislation, decide on how to implement the fourteenth Amendment. And that's what the Supreme Court should have held.

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13:33 We're talking with kennispy Back, the founder and chairman of the SMI Grobelt LCA and international consulting firm and investment bank. You know, I agree one hundred percent with what you're saying here. And then this has been the problem with Congress is that, and especially in light of this current administration, it's like Trump is with a fire hose of things just flashing at them to say, take care of this business when we've been dealing with this for decades, resolve these issues, and Congress is saying, well, you know, but I have to I have to take a vacation, I have to go on break. Right. You know, there is one thing that Justice Kavanaugh was right about. In nineteen forty, Congress passed an immigration Act, and in nineteen fifty two they passed another immigration act.

14:19 At the time, there is in the congressional record indication that they understood that they were going to make it legal for the children of illegal immigrants to have birthright citizenship, not because they had to, but because they were choosing to do that, and they had the right to choose to do that under this section of the fourteenth Amendment. So I don't think Donald Trump had the right to issue an executive order undoing a congressional decision. But Congress did not make a decision about the children of tourists, transient people who are coming in and going out of the country. It was just never something they considered. And that's where I think the Supreme Court was wrong in holding that because of Wang Kimar and the exceptions, it enumerated that there was no exception for the children of transient visitors, and that Congress couldn't even make that an exception.

15:16 I just think this was a wild Supreme Court decision that was far beyond what they even had to consider to get to the political outcome they wanted, which was primarily to allow the children of illegal immigrants to have birthright citizenship. The nineteen fifty two statute provides for that, and that's all they had to say. Yeah, but you know the fact that Congress chose not to act, they acted. They did act in nineteen forty nineteen fifty two on the children of illegal immigrants. They could act again today, but the Supreme Court has said they cannot act to make it illegal to have birthright citizenship for children of the legal immigrants because the Constitution requires it. Why because of this four hundred and eighteen year old British decision on feudalism, which you know, the Declaration of Independence specifically said we were replacing that doctrine with the doctrine of the people determining how we were governed. And Congress on more than one occasion rejected injecting feudalism into citizenship, including in a statute of Congress packt the past the very year the fourteenth Amendment was ratified. So, you know, I love a lot of these conservative jurists, but some of

16:46 the conservative jurists are sometimes wrong. They're sometimes political, just as the liberal jurists can be political. And they got it wrong here. Right, well, you know, to me at a time when and I guess maybe the judges aren't supposed to look at it this way, but it's interesting because in other decisions they seem to consider what's happening culturally, and their you know, pronouncements will reflect that. In this case, here we are we're overwhelmed with anywhere from fifteen to twenty million illegal immigrants in our country. Threats abound, we are at war with a country that has said very clearly that we're coming after President Trump. We want to assassinate him, we want to do away with Israel. We want America to be done away with. So with all these dangers that are clear and imminent, you know, for the you know, for the Supreme Court to you know, go back four hundred years and lean on that, it's like, wait a minute, but we're here today dealing with this clear and present danger, and the threats are on our US constitution and our homeland.

18:03 You know, could you could you have made a decision, you know, in favor of national security and cut it that way as opposed to the manner in which they did, because what they were leaving it up to now, Ken and I believe is that we're going to need an amendment. And an amendment is going to happen overnight. This is going to take decades to resolve. And then how many more you know birthright citizens. Are we going to have the idea of birthright tourism? How that continues to evolve and you know, this cottage industry, it's going to become more than a cottage industry.

18:47 Yeah, I don't. I don't want the Supreme Court to rule based on what they think is a cultural imperative. That's not ruling on the law. That's what the liberal justices. Do they pass for ov Wade because they thought women needed the right to abortion. They paid all these things. So no, I don't want the Court to do that. But what I also don't want the Court to do, which I think they did here, was come to a conclusion based on what the majority of the liberal elite academics wanted and have thought is the law. Because it is. It's just not ambiguous that Wang Kim arc wasn't precedent for this decision, because it expressly stated it wasn't precedent for either of the two issues this court was considering, and those were illegal immigrants and tourists. Though, as I've said, I do think the Supreme Court was right in throwing out Trump's executive order with respect to illegal immigrants because Congress passed a statute and they have to respect the statute.

20:04 It's in't going beyond that statute. Justice Cavanaugh had a theory that it's a little too complicated, I think to get into right now, but he had a theory as to why the nineteen forty nineteen fifty two law in effect also said that there would be birthright citizenship for the children of tourists. I think he was wrong, but he at least said that but for that statute or those statutes, Congress could pass a law making birthright citizenship for tourists illegal. But he's only one vote. There were still five votes that said the fourteenth Amendment prohibits barring birthright citizenship for the children of tourists. Those five justices, well three of them, were going off on this tangent about black rights and the dread Scott decision and the knee need for white people to respect blacks. Look, this decision has nothing to do with white people or black people, or gray people or Asian people. This decision has to do with immigrants. Immigrants could come from Europe, they could come from any place. And and I resent being accused as I was by some of the liberal justices and their descents, particularly Katanji Brown. I resent being accused of being a racist because I don't want birthright citizenship for illegal aliens and tourists. That has nothing to do with

21:37 race nationality. It has to do with American citizenship being an honor, something to be valued, and something for the people who rightly legally live in the United States. Exactly. I think Katanji Brown Jackson with all due respect, was bringing up something that was already settled, I believe clearly by the Supreme Court basically said you know this, this racial divide and this thing that we've been dealing with for eight decades is over. And but she can't let it go like some because they're just it's just part of their doctrine. It's it's almost like they have PTSD of racial animists and it's like they can't even get beyond it.

22:24 Listen, I'm going to be direct. She's a racist. Hendrick Brown is an absolute racist. She's a racist pervades her decisions, her attacks on Justice Thomas. She's effectively in some of her decisions called him an Uncle Tom. Her judicial temperament, it's just not there. Her decisions are not based on the law. She has a really a single focus, and that's this racist view about white people. And she's not going to get over it. And it's a very unfortunate aspect of her judicial temperament.

23:07 Is she impeachable. She's not going to be impeached. She's not going to be impeached for this. You know, there are some decisions that she hears that have nothing to do with race, where she may be liberal, but her decision making process there is just fine. Right. But she's not going to be in peach. She's going to be on the bench for a very long time making a lot of very bad decisions. We just hope that she doesn't find a mate where there's, you know, another another like minded justice on the court. I think that could be. It could be debilitating in so many ways. We have to leave it there. Kennon' speedback is always appreciate. The Insight founder chairman of the SMI Group LLC. You need to read his article. Tell them how they can link up with that, Kennon.

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28:09 Hey, good morning, Welcome back, Aloha, Bill Martinez here, coming to you live from Maui, Owaii, and we're talking clear across the country on the East coast to the other side of the of the USA to landmark legals. Mike O'Neill, Hey, Mike, Aloha to you and my. Friend Aloha Bill. I hope you're having a nice time in our beautiful state of Hawaii. It's it is. It's a beautiful state, and the people here beautiful, and it's just it's just been a great trip, especially being with the kids and grandkids in that so you know, we're just having a great time. It's been a while since we've had a chance to be with him, so we're making the most of it. Well, let's talk Lindsey Graham. I mean, the shock of shocks over the weekend, and I'm still still trying to get my brain around at Mike.

28:54 Yeah, certainly, I think it was. It's one of those sudden things. I mean, as I understand it, what an aortic to section or something, you know, one of those one of those things that they're just widow maker things that you can't you can't come back from, very very high high degree of of of critical care. Really a sad moment, and this is this is a I think we can remember Lindsay Graham for a couple of things. I mean, he was, first of all, he was a really stalwart in the United States Senate. And he was an individual who was obviously pro national defense, pro liberty, somebody who identified hotspots in the in the world, Ukraine, North Korea, China, Taiwan, obviously the Middle East, Iraq, Iran, all of all all of those areas. So he's clearly a pro national security individual, very very stalwart, bastion and fighter for liberty across not only in the United States, but of course across the globe. Personally, my from from my bellywick in my my area that I focus on, I remember Lindsay Graham for his his acts and his work on the Senate Judiciary Committee, and the Senate Judiciary Committee, for all those who don't know, really rises always because it's always workings. It's a standing committee in the United States Senate, and their job is to advise and consent, provide the initial advice and consent role for nominations to the federal bench, the district courts, the circuit courts, and of course the United States Supreme Court. But really when they the profile of the Senate Judiciary Committee rises nationally when they have those hearings regarding Supreme Court nominees and

30:25 the memories I take from Senator Graham, of course, I think his seminal moment in the United States Senate, and it is really I think, as time continues to march on, his moment in history will be in that moment during the Brett Kavanaugh hearing that we can recall, and I encourage all of your listeners and everybody to google Google that moment if you can see the video of Lindsey Graham during during the moment where Brett Kavanaugh had been I think it was day three of the Kavanaugh hearings when he was nominated for the Supreme Court as an Associate Justice for the Supreme Court, and the left and the Democrats on the committee had dragged out these terrible allegations and produced a witness with these this really specious lots of holes in her story about this alleged improprieties that Justice judged that that Kavanaugh had engaged in. And it really kind of knocked the Republicans for a loop, because up until that point it had been a fairly pro former kind of hearing, right, you know, there were a lot of character witnesses, and the record of justice of Judge Kavanaugh was was was really strong. He'd served at the d C. Circuit Court of Appeals with a lot of distinction. He was a distinguished attorney. He had really a really flawless kind of record. But they pulled out this from left field, these allegations from decades and decades prior, and it really kind of got the everything went off the rails.

31:41 Right. We had the cod pink people storming in the left that smelled blood. They'd thrown the Republicans for a loop. They were The Republicans were kind of shell shocked, if you remember the hearing, looking. At them absolute bench, they were shell shocked. Upstood Lindsay, I don't say stood well through all this cacophony and all of this and yelly and all these allegations, and the Republicans almost frozen in fear. It looked really the nomination was on the precipice. And I think if they've been able to derail this nomination, I think that they would have been able to prevent I think that was the I'm trying to decide who was what seed it was occupying, but it really would have, I think seminarly affected the contours of the court. Upstood, Lindsay Graham, I'll give you a second if you want to weigh it on this.

32:24 No, no, that's why. Yeah, you're laying it out perfect. Ye okay. So so at this moment, Lindsay Graham said enough is enough, and he gave this straight from the speech, from the heart speech. And it wasn't it wasn't prepared. And this is what's amazing about it. It's one of those unscripted moments in our history. And you so rarely see these, right where the senator so oftentimes everything's preordained, we have the script written. It's that eight et cetera, et cetera. Everything comes along, it's follows a path. But Lindsey Graham, straight out from a heart, admonished his Senate colleagues, and it's and he started with. This, you know, the democrat the Democrats, Senate colleague, sorry, yeah, excuse me.

33:06 The Democrats on the on the committee obviously, and let me let me talk. Let me briefly say who these people are. These the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Are the left of the left on the Senate, we really have you have your radical Marxists in the House of Representatives, but you do have some pretty leftist senators as well. And this was horono, by the way, where you are yes, right, who is really the poor? Who is a really who's as bad as leftist as you get? And then you had Blumenthal a white House. Kamala Harris was on the committee at that point too, because this is before she was the vice president, she was a senator. And so you had some really left wing senators and he admonished them. And Graham had some bona fides and some gravitas with this because he had previously voted for Kegan and Soda my or and so he's he was the guy who was known as the congenial you know, genial guy who reached across the aisle, was willing to put politics aside and look at like these justices and these judges. You came befo him and said, Okay, I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican. I want to look at your qualifications to serve as a judge or justice.

34:07 Right, So he. Recognized aptly like Justice Kagan, who was incredibly competent and incredible, and she continues to be competent this day, qualified to see if serve on the Supreme Court. And of course he voted for her. So he had some bona fides here and some credibility with this, and he he admonished them, and he gave this humdinger of a speech, and it was it was straight from the heart. And I remember looking at it that day and I said to myself, this is the day that he saved the Republic. And I mean that from the heart. I said, Lindsay Graham just saved the Republic because he was able to salvage. And I don't think but for that speech, I really, you know, it's hard to get down and involved in these counterfactuals, but but for that speech, I think that the nomination was going to go off the rails and he wasn't going to suit. You know, there was some wavering right Senator Blake from Oklahoma, There was some Arizona.

34:54 He was not Oklahoma, well, Blake from Arizona. I think he was wavering. The was some like he'd been tornered in a in a in an elevator. And so there were some Republicans that were wavering on this. So I think but for graham speech, we wouldn't have Justice Kavanaugh on the bench right now. An amazing, amazing moment in American history. I encourage everybody to watch it. I think that's really what he's going to go down for, is that moment when he's when he metaphorically he didn't physically stand up. He was sitting there, but he stood up and he gave this common sense, straight from the heart, admonishment to his colleagues that hey, we're better than this, we need to be about this. These sorts of these sorts of shenanigans are not appropriate. This. I can't do it justice. I don't want people to look at it and hear the sound, right, But what he did was incredible, and I think he should be noted for that and really lauded for that. And remember for that moment.

35:42 Well, the closing line there, as you recall, was, uh was about power. He says, you you were so interested in power and control. I hope to god you don't get it right, and you're exactly right. Mind what it did, it coalesced, It brought the It brought the Republican Party back on their You know, back on their toes to get into a fighting stance because they were just overwhelmed. I mean, you know Macy Herono, Oh you have to hear her, and you men, you got to shut up and sit down and you know, invalidate you know, everybody on this committee all of a sudden they had no say whatsoever. And the media was louding her and that, and and of course, interestingly enough, in the ensuing years, including here recently, where's Macy Herono?

36:35 She still senator? Well yeah, but but I mean she's not talking about you know, the main Canada. Of course he's out now, but but still where was she during this period of time? And and and clearly and she was really an embarrassment, her and the others because you could see that they didn't do any of their homework. This was done by staff, and they were echoing staff talking points and it was it was an embarrassment on so many, so many levels. Uh. But the critical issue that Lindsey Graham called him on was that their lust for power they had, they had they had crossed the rubicon. Yeah, and and to the merits of it, I mean it was he and he puted this out and in his in his speech. It was short and punchy, right, it was some of the same. These great moments are just it's just a moment. It's just that it's only three or four minutes long. And he said this, Justice Cavlar, Judge Kavanaugh, Brett Kavanaugh has has worked with women his entire career, and he cited the ABA his character and fitness report above. Reproach everything and the whole. Anybody with common sense who was watching the hearings was screaming for that moment, and he really gave voice to the people who were screaming at them. Hey, guys, stand up and do what's right. And he and he, he stepped into that.

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42:27 You know, when things go off the rails, the truth is so powerful, and it is one of those things that you say, whether it's the Holy Spirit there, you know, God himself that enters into the chaos, because that's what happens. The chaos needed to be settled. And I'm like you, I do give the Holy Spirit credit because the Spirit of God is the one that combats chaos, even from day one when you open up the Book of Genesis, you know it was the spirit of God that was hovering over the darkness and over the chaos of God's creation at that point in time, and so here it is as crazy as it was. And yes, I know that sounds dramatic in some sense to say that Lindsey Graham saved the republic. And there have been seminal moments throughout our history where there have been speeches that has coalesced and saved the republic, And no doubt, Lindsey Graham's moment needs to be accounted for as you you know, remember some of these moments that saved our democracy.

43:26 Yeah, it was. It was just one of those times when it just called out for a voice of clarity in the in the chaos, and it was it was he cut through it all and it just and I thought to myself, well I didn't I didn't know he had it in him at that time. I was like, you know, he's he was again. He he has incredible substance. He was well known, but to that point, you know, he was. He was. He's obviously a pro defense, but he was. He was always with Lieberman and McCain. He was. He was a very genial guy, South Carolinian, you know, work with people. You know really and and he was always kind of, you know, blanketed in this idea of being a maverick. For some reason, he liked being associated with with McCain and Lieberman into a degree because having that Maverick Monicum on him. You know he kind of he kind of cherished that a little bit.

44:16 Yeah. Absolutely, and and again this this, this, And I think that's why it hit hard in the moment, because when you have a guy who is so often again I keep going back to this word genial, you know, just a good natured, happy warrior going there, and for him to that righteous indignation that came through in that was was was really effective in what he was saying is sometimes when you have these folks who kind of it all again, the righteous indignation just burns through their traditional genial personality and you could just te I never met Lindsay Gret, but you could just tell he's a good natured fellow, right. But for him to get into this, this this mode where he just was like boom dialed in on it, it was it was definitely an amen moment.

45:01 I remember saying to myself that I was like, hey, that was that was badass. So well to me. To me, another impressive thing about Lindsay Graham was that how he became friends with Donald Trump when he was running for president and the at vitriol that was between the two of them, and certainly January the sixth. What happened there, which later you know, Lindsey Graham apologized to Donald Trump about but you know, they were friends. They were regularly on the golf course together. And and you think, okay, and and here's Donald Trump giving out if you remember gave out Lindsey Graham's phone number, remember. Absolutely, I mean that was that was kind of he kind of went through a transformation with that. But that's you know, that's kind of politics too. Absolutely, And then that's I always find that one an interesting thing about Donald Trump is is he kind of he never really holds gru I mean, maybe he does hold grudges and we don't see it. But if you can savage him and then the next a couple of days later, if you start talking to him and because had former relationship with him, and then start to work with him, suddenly what you said before is just kind of you know, water under the bridge.

46:04 So it's kind of like it's kind of like the schoolyard battles to go on. You remember when we were growing up, we'd say things, who are you know, our fellow students and whatever, you know, we'd we'd cut him down, and uh, you know after recess. You know, you're back, you're back together and friends and all that kind of stuff. So it's it goes water under the bridge. Well look at let's let's get an update on what's going on with Scotus here and now, yeah. Just briefly, just briefly before we run out of time, a couple a couple of interesting notes. Is two of the justice is interesting. Justice Kagan, who had a moment with Lindsay Graham as well. Just real quick, Lindsey Graham, if you recall uh during the Kagan hearing, H said in confirmation hearing, Lindsey Graham kind of humanized just Elena Kagan in the moment. He asked her what she was doing on Christmas Day, and she interpreted it as you know, one of those questions that senators give him about case long interpretation and legal philosophy, et cetera, et cetera. And she's and he said, and she gave her this, she started to go down this road, and He's said, no, I just want to know what you do for Christmas Day?

47:01 And she said, I'm paraphrasing it, but she said, like most Jews, I was probably eating ginner at a Chinese restaurant something like that. It's something to that effect, and everybody laughed, and it was a really important humanizing moment, which kind of and she even she said this yesterday when she was giving when she was in her testimony in front of Congress. And we'll get to why they were in front of Congress in a second, but she actually gave a moment where she was expressing condolences on behalf of the court and she said, probably, but for that moment, I might not be sitting on the Court. So we also have Justice Kagan, again was I think was a Clinton appointee who was again I think she was listener general and then dean of Harvard Law School, and who's emerged is really probably one of the strongest center left justices and I think probably the strongest of the left wing justices. Really incredible intellect. But she attributed her seat on the Supreme Court to Lindsay Graham as well.

47:50 So that's an interesting kind of coda to what we were talking about. Anyway, So Justice Kagan and Justice Barrett were both in front of the congressional hearings yesterday seeking addition funds for the Supreme Court, actually seeking an increase in the Supreme Court's budget. If you can believe this, the Supreme Court's annual budget is only about two hundred and thirty million dollars, which for the government, the federal budget, that is percentages of pennies on the dollar. And you think of the impact and the effectiveness of the court and how the larger than life role at plays and actually they're only annual budgets about two hundred and thirty millions. So they were asking for an increase, a ten percent increase in their annual budget to increase security for the justices. And this is kind of an unfortunate need now in our in our era, particularly really the post Dobbs era, the post Dobbs's I was.

48:39 Going to say that he probably needed some more money to find out who released the Dobs information. Right, Yeah, Well, the increased budget request was twofold number one, to increase security because they're facing a lot more. Oh yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's crazy. Hey, by the way, just to stand correct, it was the Barack Obama. I thought I thought it was a little bit o. Yeah, that's okay, that's right, thank you. Yeah, anyway, go ahead. Yeah, she was a listener general under under Clinton and then was you know, yeah, I apologize for that. Time goes fast anyway. So, so they were asking for increased money because they're facing increased security threats. Justice Barrett gave some anecdotes where she's facing where she had to talk about wearing a bulletproof vest being the object of a it's called a swatting incident. I've actually never heard of this before up until this point, where people call in, Uh, it's it's like a farce, where they call in that their gunshots in the house to have the swat teams descend on the homes.

49:35 Exactly right. Apparently this has been this has been happening, uh, with with some regularity. I've I've heard about this, you know, quite often more often than it should happen, and especially with with some of these officials houses. You know, I mean, the justices have been attacked in so many ways, and you know, here Kavanaugh had an assassination especially Yeah, exactly. But but you know in Justice Amy bar Justice Barrett, Justice Barrett, she she's been tormented. I mean, her kids have been tormented. I mean, it's like these people have crossed the line and and I am surprised at how lacks the uh you know, law enforcement there is there in d C. Why they don't grab these people, jail them and you know them sit in jail for a while and think about this.

50:25 And I think, I think that's that's part of it. I think now that the Supreme Court has a dedicated police force, they traditionally they really didn't have a lot of security. I mean there are stories about Justice Scalia. We go to daily mass, uh right, and just walk from the Supreme Court just a couple of blocks, no problem going to going to Mass every day. And are there other stories of Justice Chief Justice Roberts would go to baseball games and there was never any kind of security or anything. But now we're in a new era where they require protection details and et cetera, et cetera. So I think that these are necessary changes. Unfortunately, it's unfortnate. It's what happens when you open the border and allow millions of illegal to come in, and then you have a movement within our government that wants to designify law enforcement and so many other issues that have to do with safety and national security. I mean, this is just amazing where we are, and you know what Trump is trying to do is you know, get back to almost like the Rudy Giuliani, you know concept of broken windows.

51:26 We got to take care of the small things. We have got to you know, protect national security and protect our officials. Yeah. Absolutely, I would add one other, one other item to it too, And I'd never hesitate to to extort on Congress here. I think what's happened also in because you've had Congress has failed to do their legislative duty under our constitution so much save Act for example. Yeah, right, they failed to legislate, and so into that breach comes when you think about the separation of powers and the jocking for powers, because Congress, which is which was designated as the most powerful branch of government and has the strong, the most institutional power under our Constitution, abrogates its duties and its job and essentially farms it out to the executive branch. And then the Supreme Court has to adjudicate these issues and has a disproportionate amount of impact on our society. Because of Congress failing to do this, you have the executive and the judiciary having to work these powers.

52:29 The power and the influence of the Supreme Court becomes disproportionate, not intended our from our framers, and so what was intended to be a judicatory body to have a lesser impact because Congress was actually doing its job unfortunately now has a broader impact. So you have these cases. You know, twenty thirty years ago, the profile wasn't rising because so many of these issues were resolved via the legislative process, now adjudicator, via the executive process or the judicial process. So I think it puts a lot of these individuals in the spotlight that weren't necessarily intended to ever be in the spotlight under our frame of government.

53:11 You know, you think about it, Michael, how many executive orders under Donald Trump just in this term alone? You know, And again I'm always leary of that from a constitutional conservative principle, but I recognize the reality of the situation, of the fact that you have Congress that can't, as I've said many times on your show, can't you get a piece of legislation requiring voter ID through the Congress. What choice is the executive branch to do when you can't have basic common sense legislation go through Congress. Because you have certain individuals who are committed to blocking any kind of progress. It's or important legislation that is necessary for our country and that all of us agree on.

53:52 So again, maybe a Congress steps up, starts to do their job, relieve some of the pressure on the executive branch, and the judiciary cools the room a little bit so you don't have these security threats that these justices are facing. It. In the meantime, you of course have to have increased security for them so you don problem. Well, here's the Assistant General Counsel of Landmark Legal, Michael Negol, who's been our guests. Mike, thank you so much, take care of God speed for Phil. Hello, have a great time. Why thank you bell. Time share owners, listen to this. You know it's coming your time share maintenance fee bill at RFA cancelations. We've seen timeshare maintenance fees rising every year, and I bet you have too. Most of our clients that we help get rid of their time shares don't have that kind of free money laying around. If you don't either, call us when you hire our experts. We'll do all the work for you to help you get out of your time share with zero money down with approved credit. If you haven't used your time share this past year and you want a legal way to get out of it.

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55:29 Welcome morning, and welcome six minutes aft top of the hour. Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. Scott Powell, Senior Fellow Discovery Institute and author of Rediscovering America. He's got a new book that's in the works right now that's, you know about, ready to be fully ges stated and released and we're excited for that. Hey, mister Scott, good morning to you. How are you? No, I'm really well, thank you appreciate it. Well, here we are all that has been going on in our country. Uh, you know, there's still a disturbance, you might say in the Star Wars vernacular, A disturbance in the forest and that disturbance is real. And rediscovering America with you know, what you tried to do is to get people to understand that what they were seeing was not something that their lying eyes were telling them that in fact it was. It was true that you had the disassembling of this great American idea that was taking place that we have been warned about for decades, right.

56:27 Yes, yeah, yeah, I think one of the things I do in Rediscovering America is I trace you know, not just the background of the founding of the country, which included the Great Awakening. Certainly it starts with discovering the new world and then opening the door to you know, they've had the Protestant Reformation in the early fifteen hundreds, which really changed everything, and it made people feel like they were free to pursue their real faith as they saw it as God led them, and they were led to want to start new communities in the new world, which is really extraordinary. And that's the beginning of.

57:11 America right well. And the thing is, when you think about the faithfulness of God, this wasn't the first time. I mean time and again in history you see where God says okay, look at you've disconnected from me. It's time for you to reconnect. And he reminds us in his word, you know, if my people who are called by my name, that call is always out there and where God is calling his people to come back to him. And they must realize, as we've talked many times on this show, is that it's about reconciling ourselves to God. Some would say it's about repentance. And you know, often people want to talk about revival, but you can't have revival without repentance. You have to go you know, what are you repenting from? If you don't understand what you're repenting from, well then you're not going to connect with God.

57:59 And here it is that we've been apart from God. A truth is relative. We have our children that are being scarred up and you know trans you know, based on theory and as if God's not right, God doesn't have it right. You know, he is the one that declares them male and female. And all of a sudden, you have these liberals coming on the scene, a small minority, by the way, but nonetheless a very effective minority because they're altering the lives, the one lives that these children have, they're altered forever, and there's no you know, what's the recompense, Scott, You know, I don't hear any apology from these people.

58:41 No, there's no apology. No, no. I mean what you find with people that have crossed over certain lines of sin, there's a way back for them. But as you pointed out, it is repentant, it's deep repentance. Yeah. Well, if you can't repent, if you can't acknowledge you've given that advice that you involved in a medical practice that was utterly corrupt in that it was suggesting that you could change your gender through certain hormone treatments and surgeries. Uh. Of course that's absolutely false. Uh, and it's totally out of it's it's it's utterly false. And the fact that our medical community has not been able to police itself, if you will, is really it's an indictment on one of our most important sectors of our our economy and our you know, in this, in this in the services that we're tied to, health is everything. Healthcare for most people is the most important thing. So we have healthcare industry that is disconnected from really carrying out healthy practices.

59:52 You know, godly healthy practices. Yeah, well they've gone from doing no harm to how can we make more money? That's right, absolutely, that's absolutely right. They would rather have a patient for life than a cured patient, right, and patient for life is better than patient that gets cured. And this is you know, this is our children, Scott, and I would dare say I'd be curious to know of these people. Of course, the information is hidden from us. That's the thing. I mean, this has been going on for you know, well over a decade. Where's the empirical evidence. We have more empirical evidence coming out of Europe than we do in our own country about you know, the damage that's being done here. And this is why the Europeans said, hey, this is this is a bad idea.

1:00:35 You don't forget it. We're not doing this anymore. Yes, yeah, I know it really. What it tells us, I think, more than anything, is that there is this deep state that is very entrenched in our country. And it's not just in our government and our government agencies. It's beyond that. It's it's operating in our you know, in our culture, in our media, in our universities and our educational system, where people who are of weak minds. They conform to what they think their masters, if you will, the controllers want you to. You know, they take positions that are in accord with what the deep State wants, and the state wants to weaken the United States so that America could be Yes, transformation of America is part of it, but it is it is in the service of a new global order that they.

1:01:38 Envision, right, And that's the control of the populace. Yes. And it's anti free freedom, it's anti God, you know. And the deal is is again you look at the word of God and the word God talks about Levin. Levin is that representative of sin? And this is what you're talking about, is that Levin That those ideas, those corrupt ideas, get into the body politic, it gets into God's creation. It violates the very seed that God has created. Scott absolutely, yeah. I mean you think about you think about the impact that they They're not happy enough just to you know, have a little piece of the pire in it. I mean, they want total control. Like you said, this is all an agenda. This is not by accident. And and you see these ideas that have been coming up over the decades and now it's become you know, so obvious and pervasive.

1:02:34 It's like, you know, I keep thinking, Scott, at some point there's going to be some major pushback on this. There has to be. Well, I think it's already starting, and it will, you know, and it should be coming out of the Christian, Jewish Christian communities because you know, we believe that God created us for purpose. Right, it all spelled out. It's not a complicated purpose purpose. I'm my head. God wants our welfare, our happiness, our joy, our fulfillment. He wants us to join in marriage, a normal heterosexual marriage. Of course, that's the only kind of marriage, because that's the only kind of marriage that God created to pro create. He corrects us to pro create.

1:03:21 Be fruitful, MULTIPLI right. Right. It turns out that when you're you know, when that part of your life is in order, most of the rest of your life can be in order. Right, Yeah, exactly, Even though you might look at it and say, hey, that might be a bit of a challenge. I mean, some of these young people are making decisions, you know, on abortion because they see the inconvenience and they do not see the blessings of it. But this is what happens. You know, when you continue to focus on those things that are ungodly, God will release you, you know, to your own desires.

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1:09:45 That's right, Well, you know, Rediscovering America really ends. It traces God's hand behind American history, and that hand behind American history sort of went through the nineteen sixties with the civil rights move That was the last sort of important move of God in American culture, in our system. Was was the fulfillment of Thomas Jefferson's vision in the Declaration of Independence. We've just anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. What was one of the key things in the declaration? It was that we were all created equally equal value.

1:10:26 That doesn't mean we have equal talents, equal intelligence, equal levels of you know, of creativity, motivation and so forth. We are all different in that regard. And it's good that we are equal value before God, right, and and that's and and that and that's a wonderful thing that we can all live knowing that we're as good as the rich. Guy, equal value before God and before one another. That's right. That's that's the other part lest we forget is that and this is why you know, you have the cause again that we need to focus on love. It's because the horizontal relationship has been compromised. And this is what happens when you forget God, you forget people, You forget your family, you forget your wives and your children, and they all suffer as a result of That's God, that's.

1:11:20 Right, so right. You know when I think it was, you know, when one of the Sadducees or the Pharisees asked Jesus, which of the commandments what's the greatest? Remember that, yes, absolutely, and. Jesus had a very simple answer because they were looking for some matching up of existing commandments, and Jesus the answers they. Had so many, they had so many commandments. They took ten commandments and when they make ten thousand out of them or something. Like that, Yeah, the Mosaic law. Yeah, his answer was very simple, but it was different. It was your call. If you love God with all your heart, and you love your neighbor, is your yourself, you will have fulfilled.

1:12:03 All of the law. Yeah, well, unbelievable. So you're so right, Bill, and saying that, you know, love, loving God has to be connected and joined to loving people, right one and not the other. We need to do both. Because you need you need the love of God that allows you to pour out love to others. You can't give what you don't have and so disconnected from God. And this is what you know, I believe my mission has been Scott and yours as well. I believe is that you know, we're trying to reconnect our audience with the source of love, the source of power, the source of truth, the source of every good thing that comes down from Heaven that our Creator has planned and purpose for each one of us. And uh, you know, the thing is like right now, you know we've gone through, you know, with with the Gold Cup. It's been just so eye opening, I think for everyday Americans, because we're hearing from the Europeans how much they're loving America. Yeah, they love our air conditioning, they love our ice and buckets in and out and all that good stuff. But they're loving the people. And to hear them talk, it's almost like God has allowed a bunch of you know, the Tokavills to come into our country and give their observation.

1:13:26 And one of the things that stands out consistently for me is they say, you know, Americans, they're good people. We are yeah, generally speech we are the majority of Americans are you know, are good. And the founders you. Know that they they had that down. They knew that if they were to build a godly country, it had to be connected with the people, right, the sovereignty of the of the nation needed to be rooted in the people, not in the elites, but in the people. Okay, exactly what gives us. It's what gives us hope, Scott. You know, because you see good people all around, and I'm saying to the good people, look at let your goodness come forth, and and and and it's not to be overdone because I think a lot of people's goodness is out there, you know, whether it's you know here it is. We have this horrific incident with you know, earthquakes and you know around the world and devastation that's going on and what happens. America is always the first to you know, go there and help a country, provide food, whether you know it's Argentina or Cuba or whatever, you know, somebody that we may see as an adversary politically, but we're there with food and support and prayer all the time.

1:14:45 Scott, Absolutely, Yes, it's it's it's a great testimony to you know, the the residual virtue of America. Right, I'll call it residual virtue because you know, we don't you know, we don't see it as much as we see that, you know, the ungodly things that are also that also exists in America, they're more visible. Well no, well, because we're giving it more attention, Scott, Right, that's what we're doing. I mean, it's it's of our own doing. It's that we are undoing ourselves by spending an endless amount of time on these you know, social media trappings that want to you know, create a world that is so ungodly and unreal and uh, and it leads us to believe that, oh, you know, we're not as good as that there's injustice that's taking place. And then we go along with this narrative that's been promoted for decades in our educational systems that promotes this victim you know, this victim mentality that you know, you don't you didn't get yours because you know you're a victim.

1:15:57 You're oppressed, you know, by these oppressors and these billionaires and you know these you know, all this narrative that Mamdani is promoting in New York and other socialists you know, pitting everyday Americans. Again, this is anti God. You and I just talked about it. You know, we have to love God and love one another. Well, how is that loving one another when you see them as oppressors? That's right, it's fun. Look, the message that has come out of Marxism is straight out of the devil, it really is. It didn't just create horrendous you know, totalitarian systems like the Soviet Union and China. China is a totally totalitarian controlled society, one of the biggest nations, second.

1:16:39 Only to India. Now where everyone is really under the control of the state, where the state can can control your money, It can turn your money off, it can make your money worthless if you go from one canton to another, right or you or if you're deemed by. The state as being. Having protested or been critical of anything of the state, they can just shut your money off like you're you're instantly impoverished. Right, those kind of controls, and we need to be alert of that in America because there is this movement towards a you know, towards a central bank digital currency. It's not the bitcoin in ethereum and the crypto currencies, which actually give you freedom because they're not controlled by the government, right exactly, But but it's a it would be a new digital currency that I believe we're on the path towards going to because because of the movements that the banks have made exactly now, the people can stop it. They can stop it if they say no, we're not cooperating with that.

1:17:51 Uh. And of course people that are buying gold and crypto are basically making that statement that we are protecting ourselves against the lapse of the fiat currency and the replacement by a central bank digital currency. We will not go there, right. And you know, for those that read the Bible, we know, you know, in the Book of Revelations, we're warned not only that this could happen, but that this will happen. And because of the fall of man, because as we continue to become more and more secularized and move away from God and think, you know, just like in the Old Testament days that you know, we want to live our lives according to our own eyes. Well, you know, this is cycled in and out time and again throughout human history and the results are disaster.

1:18:42 They are they are. So we have the benefit of understanding history. We have the Bible, which is really a wonderful history book on not only what God did, but what you know, what you know, what his people did or didn't do, and what the consequences were. And if we can practice we can learn from those things. You know we can. The future can be very bright for America. Without a doubt. Scott Powell Senior Fellow at Discovery Institute. His book Rediscovering America is still available check it out. He's also a member of the Committee on This Present Danger China and a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute. Scott, thank you as always appreciate it. Godspeed, my friend.

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1:24:34 And as I said, the parties responsible for this are Surprise Surprise, tied to the United Nations, and what they have done is very significant. In the past, it has been determined, regardless of the field we're talking about, that scientific evidence can be admitted provided it forms with the scientific method. That is, you have an hypothesis, you test the hypothesis. If you can confirm the hypothesis through rigorous tests, then you can allow that into the courtroom. In this case, scientific evidence or the scientific method has been replaced by scientific consensus. That is a horse of a different color, because that is subject to political fashion, that is subject to grants that certain parties receive from the governments, or from private foundations, or from other entities, entities which have an agenda. No less than the late great Michael Crichton said, if it's consensus, it's not science, and if it's science, it's not consensus exactly, and he was absolutely right. Now, why is that important? There are over one thousand cases

1:26:10 dealing with the climate pending at federal and state courts. If judges start relying on a chapter that relies on scientific consensus, then the judge in case, and by the way, there are six thousand of them at the federal and state level, then these judges will be, in many cases relying on nothing more than quackery. And of course, how many of these judges, he's six thousand federal and state judges, How many of them are already known activists. A lot of them are, because a lot of them were appointed, going actually all the way back to Clinton, but certainly Obama and Biden. We know who they are.

1:27:01 And if they rely on political consensus, that political consensus simply confirms they're already widely known political beliefs. The damage that can accrue to the American people from this is absolutely enormous, because climate lawsuits have been filed to shake down American energy companies said to be responsible for a catastrophic warming of the climate. And if there is no corrective mechanism in the judicial system that allows judges to throw out scientific consensus in favor of the scientific method, then we're really asking for trouble.

1:27:55 So we. Took two steps forward and three steps back. That's exactly right. And now a letter has been written by three imminent climate scientists, two Chief Justice John Roberts, who oversees a tiny agency that looks into this, saying requesting him to disallow the new chapter and either commission a new one or go back to the old one because they fixed something that wasn't broken. Exactly nothing wrong with the original chapter in the guide book that is supposed to tell judges what they should and should not allow in their courtrooms.

1:28:40 Well, I thought that this had been cleared up, that legislation and regulation with the EPA had cleared this up. So they they're unwinding all all this positive, the positive work and efforts that's been done by the current regime. Right, Oh, that's that's what the effort is. Somebody on the other side is nothing if not creative. They recognized that their position is considerably weaker, both legally and in a regulatory sense than it was just a few years ago, and they hit on this idea of trying to tip the scales in courtrooms in order to benefit plaintiffs seeking to shake down oil companies and ultimately, by extension, shaking down the American people because a result of this would be putting barriers between the American people and affordable energy from which ordinary American citizens would pay dearly exactly.

1:29:48 So, basically, what we're doing is what the UN has always been dreaming of, and that is that the United States of America would subordinate its supremacy to the United Nations. That's exactly right. And this is coming at a precisely at a time when the United States has achieved global energy dominance thanks to its rich assets and resources of fossil fuels. We're the world's largest producer of oil, where the world's largest producer of natural gas, and we're the world's largest exporter of liquefied natural gas. In other words, we're king Kong. We're also taking a much more favorable view of nuclear energy. Now you put all of that together, and it puts the United States in the driver's seat when it comes to energy and frees us from any dependence that we once had on the politically, geopolitically chronically unstable Middle East. We no longer have that. So the effort by the Greens here is to take us back to yesterday day here. And that's precisely where we don't want to go, right.

1:31:03 And do we have an idea in terms of net cost because this isn't there's no upside here in this morner. Oh no, this is a total cost. I mean we're talking, you know, trillions upon trillions of dollars that this would cost the American tax. Payer, or right, the American taxpayer, the American ratepayer, the American driver, you name it. The cost would be absolutely enormous. You would see them from the supermarket to the gas pump to wherever you are. Because the name of the game here is to make fossil fuels unaffordable. Once you make fossil fuels unaffordable. People have no recourse but to buy electric vehicles which they don't want, or even in some cases to buy no vehicles whatsoever exactly, which is precisely what many of these people would like to see.

1:31:59 See. This is tied to the Democratic Party, isn't it. Oh, yes, very much so. That's the old Democratic Party, and no doubt the new Democratic Socialist Party, by the way, not to be confused. With that's right. They see the time running out on climate and climate was wonderful for them because arguments made, policies adopted in the name of addressing the so called climate crisis put enormous amount of power into the hands of ruling elites, and, by the way, no small amount of money into the purveyors of green energy. That whole game was being jeopardized by court decisions, Trump administration policies, further advancements in extraction of fossil fuels, particularly in the United States through cracking. It looked as if the Green Party was over and they're doing everything they possibly can to restore the so called transition to green energy.

1:33:07 Well, here we got the return of John Kerry and Al Gore. Perhaps, Oh my lord, that's scary. Just thinking about it for just a moment, and let's go, hey, just to put the cherry on top. Let's add Greta Thunberg too. Oh. Absolutely, miss, I miss. Being yelled at. I want some young girl yelling at me because she knows so much. Right. Absolutely, be that as it may. We'll have to leave it there. Doctor Bonnard Cohen. He is the co author of Beyond COVID nineteen, the senior policy Analyst and Committee for Constructive Tomorrow. Thank you, Bonnard, take care, Thank you Bill. Have you written a book? Where? Do you have a manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher. Christian Faith Publishing supports authors like yourself to bring their books to life, and right now we're offering you a free writer's guide designed to steer you towards book completion. Christian Faith Publishing evaluates each manuscript we received. If your book earns approval, we take care of everything editing, designing, printing, promotion, and widespread online and in store distribution. Picture your book, greasing the shelves of specialty Christian bookstores, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and numerous other retail destinations. It's time to get that manuscript published. And to work with a publisher who shares your values of integrity and honesty. You can get your book published, get your manuscript reviewed, and a free writer's guide today.

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1:38:37 Oh, Bill, it was absolutely a complete setup. And she's on the court because President Joe Biden then said that he was going to appoint a woman, a black woman, to the Supreme Court. So like she shows up, she's on you know, her confirm confirmation hearings and like, yeah, you're right, Like she can't define what a woman is, but now in Supreme Court hearings and conclusions she's continuing the wackiness right. Well. And the thing is is that the deal about the Biden administration was all about checking the boxes, right DEI and everything. I mean, you go right on down whether you're talking about the vice president of the United States, I mean his cabinet. I mean you look at his cabinet versus the cabinet of Donald Trump, for example, and you just go wow. I mean, when you looked at Joe Biden's cabinet, with all due respect, it was almost like you walked into one of those scenes from Star Wars and you went into some canteena and there's all kinds of just going, well, who are these people?

1:39:40 Right? Yeah, no, exactly right. I mean they had all kinds of I won't be ugly, but all kinds of interesting people right in there. And you know Kataji Brown Jackson, I mean, she's a smart woman, but she is not Supreme Court caliber clearly, and well happens when you play identity politics like that. Well, and the thing is is that even the liberal side of the justices sometimes you see them backing away from her. Oh yeah, right, I mean even though they're pretty much lockstep. But what where she really gets exposed is when she's defending her position. Yeah.

1:40:21 Yeah, and they you know, you're right, even you know, the two other liberal justices, You're right, kind of like just back away from her, like, okay, appreciate what you're doing, but you're not doing it in a really great way here, right. Well, and like you said, in an intellectual way, because you would hope that the justices would bring something to bear to say, even if you know, even if you disagree, at least present an argument, an intellectual argument that has they can really, you know, I guess, open our eyes and give us a valid perspective so that we can, you know, chew on it, meditate on it and think, Okay, you know, am I off here? Do I need to adjust my considerations here? And when I find myself with her arguments or that, it's like, wow, this is just it's too far afield.

1:41:16 Yeah, no, it's it's I mean, yeah, she is clearly not up for the job. And the piece that I recently wrote for the Federalist highlights that in the really wonderful decision protecting women in women's sports, she wrote alone descent, and that was my piece, like, she is not qualified for the court because she is just shot through with gender ideology. I say, in this piece she had a six paragraph descent. It wasn't a very long descent, but she uses the term sex assigned at birth or assigned mail at birth thirteen times in just six paragraphs, like that's not even a real thing. It's as signed at birth.

1:42:04 Like that shows that she is in bed with gender ideology. And there's no room on the court for somebody like that, because gender ideology is not anti science, it's contrascience. It is intentionally against science, and that is what her allegiance is too. Unfortunately, is this is there any basis here for impeachment because of her ideology? That is so you know, it's just so disparate from I guess the majority of Americans. Well that's interesting, I mean politically could at work know?

1:42:45 Is there a case for it? Absolutely there's a case for it, because and the Trump administration has really done wonderfully searching out and getting out this crazy gender ideology that has been shot through our federal government. And this would be right in line for him to say, no, we cannot have a justice that I mean talking about sex assigned at birth, assigned male at birth. You know that's she might as well just be citing astrology because it has the same basis, it has the same academic or scientific foundation. What she's referring to is just a belief system that is contrareality and scientific biological fact.

1:43:40 Yeah, where does that thinking end up, Glenn? Will this ends up with us not being able to say we know what a woman is. I mean, like, at least she's been relatively consistent. She wasn't consistent when she said she's not a biologist, because you know, gender ideology has nothing to do with biology. She got that wrong. It's just belief. It's just Bill, I could proclaim to you right now that I'm a woman, and if you're a good gender idiologue, you would have to say congratulations, I'm glad you found your true self. I mean, there is no objective reality to this whatsoever. And so that's where it takes us. It takes us into crazy land.

1:44:26 And this is demonstrated by Justice Jackson herself in this recent descent in this women's sports protection case. You know, sociologically, Glenn, I look at the damage that is you know that is done all in the name of this gender dysphoria and ideology. That is being championed by a Supreme Court justice, And how many years down the road do you go and how many kids are affected? I mean already. I mean you look back and it's been over a decade where you've had gender reassignment and all these things that have taken place, and we've got empirical evidence around the world where this has just proven to be a very bad.

1:45:12 Idea, absolutely, bill, and it's doing real harm to real kids because you have people who are role models, so to speak, like Katanji Brown Jackson, the first black woman on the Supreme Court. You know, like that's not nothing, and so she holds sway and for her to be saying things like this in a Supreme Court justice descent where you have to be reasonable, rationable, rational, systematic, and consistent, I mean, this is the devolution of our court to put up with this kind of thing. And I would bet you that, like you referred even earlier, that even the liberal justices kind of roll their eyes, like come on, you know, at least there's a level that we've got to keep up.

1:46:05 Here right exactly. Well, and the thing again, I'm just thinking, we got one life to live, you know, in this arena here. Yeah, and this is all, you know, part of a grand experiment, a theoretical idea. And it's not like Katanji Brown Jackson is, you know, becoming a trans and having you know, her body parts removed all in the name of the cause. You know, she's out there pontificating in the theoretical which is just amazing to me that here it is. And even the justices themselves, yes they're backing off, but I think they need to be even more mindful for the sake and integrity of the court itself.

1:46:52 Right, No, no, No, that's exactly right, because there's a standard to be upheld and that is with rationality and with reason and biological fact. And you know again, gender ideology is the complete opposite of all of that. And that's why Bill, it needs to and you know this, and your audience knows this, like it needs to be rooted out in such a profound way. And that's what we need to do. And when Kantaji Brown Jackson, Justice Jackson uses language like this in an official Supreme Court United States Supreme Court dissent, she needs to be called on it. She needs to be laughed at, because it is ridiculous. There is nobody assigned male or female at birth.

1:47:40 Male and female are biological realities, medical scientific realities, and that's just the. Way it is. Well, you also say, I mean there's a I guess, you know, an agreed idea of integrity and honesty that you assume belongs to the court. And of course I understand when as soon as you stay assume, it gets risky and there's problems. But this really speaks to the fair mindedness and why these things are able to creep in is because the general consensus is that when you are in this position, you have been vetted in such a way to where there is a level of integrity. But you indict the justice here in terms of her even lying to people. I mean, wait a minute, you are a Supreme cour Justice and you're lying.

1:48:33 Yes, it is, Bill, It is a lie because she's saying something that is categorically untrue and unprovable. That's what is remarkable about this. And folks, I mean Bill, I would say to all of your listeners that we need to be sharp and reject all gender ideology at every level, and that includes even using polite pronouns at work. It is not polite to say things that we know are not true. And that's a catechism of gender ideology is just to start with the pronouns or why can't you just call me by a different name?

1:49:16 You know what? They are untrue to what is and we cannot play that game. We cannot even pretend to play that game out of something called politeness. We have to speak what is truth because once you start going down that road, it never stops. Right and the impact that it has in the culture, it's like that pebble in you know, you're throwing the pond and the circles, how they go out and how they touch everybody. It's impossible for it not too. Right now, Yeah, yeah, And that's why we need to not apologize to say, you know what, a quote unquote trans coworker or friend, and we have to say put that in quotes because nobody is trans. Trans is not a thing. Even the America and Psychiatric Association says it's not a medical term. But to see a coworker or a family member who believes that they are, to say, you know what, I love you, I care for you, I will always be your greatest champion, but please do not force me to say something that I know is not true. I know that you are the man that you are, I know that you're the woman that you are, and I will always be nice to you. I will always be kind to you. If I'm ever not, then you call me on it. But please do not force me to use words I know are not true.

1:50:34 Exactly Why should I give up my standing and my understanding of truth in order to accommodate a lie. Yeah, that's what I say, kind of jokingly but a little bit serious. Is like, oh, I can't use my pronouns and say, well, I identify as a person who believes in biology. Why can't you accept my identity? You know what? Like, you don't get to call the shots here, and anybody who says you have have to do what I say in order for us to have a relationship. That is the definition of relational unhealth. So exactly, you can't even go there. Yeah, can you say manipulation? Exactly exactly? We got to leave it there. Glenn Stanton has been our guest. The director of Global Family Formation Studies and Focus. The website they can go to Glenn to.

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