July 14, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 14 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 14 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 07 14 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, us do an Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, good morning America. Glad you can join us. Bill

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Martinez here along with Colonel Rob Manus, who joins us now.

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The colonel has just been just had an incredible background,

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and we just honor him for his service and what

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he's done to secure freedom for all Americans. He's United

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States Air Force retired author of the new book What

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You Can Do About It, Taking real action against corruption, radicalism,

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and moral decay to save America. Who on, let me

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tell you, colonel, thank you so much for being with us.

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Thanks for having me on. Bill.

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Well, let's talk about the book. I mean, this happens

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to be in my wheelhouse right now because I look

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at the landscape of our country on its two hundred

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and fiftieth birthday, and nobody has claimed that we're perfect.

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But there is a lot to be said about the

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integrity and the disintegration of some foundational issues that are

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impacting you know, the kind of fruit that we're seeing

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from the tree that's been emanating from the United States

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of America.

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What say you, Oh, You're absolutely right. Look, you know,

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this book is not a biography, although we use stories

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from my life experiences within the book to highlight what

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I've learned about this question. And the question is essentially

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the title of the book rephrased, and that is what

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can I do about it? The men that's the fifty

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six men that signed that Declaration of Independence or the

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end of a long line of more than two decades

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of struggle to try to do something about the persecution

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and suppression and oppression of rights by the British government

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on its colonists. It's citizens that happen to be separated

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by the Atlantic Ocean, and that's what they asked. Americans

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are individual people before they are anything else. And it's

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in our DNA. Even if an American citizen gets sworn

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in yesterday, if they really believe in the United States

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of America, that piece of individuality is in their DNA.

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And that's why I wrote the book. And the title

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of the book is what you can do about it?

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Because what I've learned in politics, especially the last thirteen

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or fourteen years since I entered the arena, is that

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is it starts with one person and you got to

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learn how to organize, You got to learn how to

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raise resources, including money, and you got to learn how

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to act because the left in this country, they've been

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kicking our butts at it for decades now, right, And

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if we can't do that, get those simple things done,

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then we are going to be on the losing end

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every time. Even if we win a battle, the people

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on our side of the aisle, I don't want to

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say our side of the aisle, but the Americans that

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still believe in that declaration, even if we win a battle,

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we can't just shrug our souldiers and say, yet, we

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won the battle, let's go home. This is a continuous war.

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Every president has told you that, my fellow Americans, that

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this is a continuous war and a fight to keep

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our freedom, and it can't be passed from one generation

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to the next.

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Exactly in it.

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In it.

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Yeah, it's been over two hundred and fifty years of

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this battle. And you know, just like when it first

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started out, you had those that resisted, that wanted to

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stay loyal to the crown. You had people that were

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then you could say anti American. Today we have the

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demonstrations clear, we have people that and I to me.

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I've set aside the party, the partisan stuff and talking

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about Democratic republic or Republicans. It's really, are you pro

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American or you're anti American. If you're pro American, then

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the Declaration of Independence in the Constitution is meaningful to you.

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If you get caught up in party politics, it gets

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di looted and it gets rewritten and reassessed in a

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way that it makes it less than significant. And those

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two documents are hugely significant. That is our birth certificate,

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It is our birthright. It is the purpose for why

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we live in this country and what we want for

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the next generation, because that's what you know, our founders wanted.

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That's what they put it all on the line for.

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It wasn't them, it was it was for you know,

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the next generations that were coming up behind them.

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Oh, you're absolutely right.

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You know.

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General Washington made the comment many many times that he

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believed that the actions that they were taking today, whether

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it was in the American Revolution or during his presidency

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or going to affect millions and millions of yet to

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be born Americans, is type of language that he would

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use when talking about it. And he's and he and

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all of those framers and founders were exactly right. Their

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actions have impacted not only millions and millions of unborn Americans,

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but millions and hundreds of millions of unborn people on

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the planet that have been able to achieve freedom by

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either coming here and becoming American citizens if they buy

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into our culture, if they have to caveat that, because

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a lot of people are coming here and managing to

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become citizens that are not buying into our culture and

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want to change it. And that's the fight that we

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face today. The Mamdanis of the world, the ilian Omars

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of the world, the extreme leftists of the world, and

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those on the right, on the extremes that want to

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change the way this country was is operating and have

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been successful in many ways so far, but a role

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in some of them back. They we have to fight

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them and that's the current fight today.

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You Know.

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The interesting thing is on the partisanship issue. I believe

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that's why presidents like Reagan and Trump have been largely

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successful because they've really not bent the knee in their

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successful runs and administrations to the partisan politics for the

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most part. I mean, it happens on occasion where they

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don't pull everybody together to try to get something big done.

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But for the most part, when they were running and

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came on the scene, they weren't partisans.

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Because they're principally based. Yeah, they're principally focused. I mean,

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you know, colonel, you know from your background, it starts,

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you know, when you plan a mission, it starts with

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the foundation. Is the foundation solid? Is it going to

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yield the results that you expect? And when you look

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at their declaration of independence in our constitution and all

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those that came before, like you said, I mean, it

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was well over one hundred years in the planning, and

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it finally got to where the British created such dissatisfaction

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with the colonists the colon us that hey, we got

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to do something about this, and so they had to

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come together and establish the foundation that was going to

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give us. You know, right now we're benefiting from two

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hundred and fifty years of liberty, and so they laid

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the foundation for us and everything. You see. I think

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we've lost sight because this is a huge government. We

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get busy, but we need to realize and I've been

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saying to our audience, we need to return to first principles.

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And this is embracing those foundational issues that maintains the

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integrity of the foundation. So whatever we put on top

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of it will stand, right.

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Oh, you're absolutely right. You know, this current president has

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cut more than three hundred and thirty thousand government employees

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as he's implemented policies that have resulted in manufacturing.

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You know, it's amazing, Colonel, you know you say that.

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I'm sorry to interrupt, but it's just that, you know,

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people need to really get their brain around. You cut

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three hundred thousand government employees, and oh my goodness, the

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government didn't.

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Go away, you know, and we've got a lot more

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to do too. You know. The good news on the

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good news side of that is the jobs that have

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been created under this current president, our submedian jobs, a

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lot of them are new manufacturing jobs actually coming back

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because of his policies. The government's not creating them. I mean,

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the president takes credit for it, but it's the policies

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that are enabling you know, job creators to come on

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the scene again. And these job creators as opposed to

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government jobs, as you know, Bill, they generate wealth and

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wealth that will go to children and grandchildren of the

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folks worked in and operating those companies. So that's the

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right way to do it. But we have a long

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way to go on reducing the federal government. You know,

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it's an unelected bureaucracy. Many people see it as a

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And I hope to see even more reforms from this

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current president before he leaves office that will enable folks

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to be removed from the bureaucracy much more easily, because

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We're talking with that Hernel Rob Menace, United States Air Force,

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retired author of the book What You Can Do About It?

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It echoes JFK's inaugural speech. You know, don't ask what

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the country can do, but what can you? And right

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now we need all hands on deck to save this

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democracy and to ensure our freedom, you know, in many respects.

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And I get it. You know, it's not like we're necessarily,

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you know, shooting bullets at everybody. But you know, this

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is a democratic republic. We need to make sure our

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vote counts. We need to be in the arena. You

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cannot be on the sidelines. This is how we got

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here right now, where you've got According to one poll,

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Colonel that I was just reading the other day, forty

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six percent of Americans don't know US history. Yeah, that's incredible.

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And it's those forty six percent that don't believe in

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the Declaration and the Constitution anymore, and that are voting

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for people like the mayor of New York City, like

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the congresswoman from Minnesota. Uh, and all kinds of these

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folks that are essentially Islamis Marxist. The President was right

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to call them out. They're not democratic socialists, they are communists.

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They're not all Islamist, but a lot of them are

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Islamists that are wearing communism essentially as a skin suit.

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And in our country and our society is in really

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grave danger right now if we don't figure out how

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to within our system get this under control. Because we

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have laws against communists holding office on the books that

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are not being enforced. We have that law needs to

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be modified to talk about islamis, because Islam is. Whether

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they take an oath to the con to support and

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defending the Constitution or not, their belief system is antithetical

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to the very Constitution that they say they're taking. An

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O to Congress should not seat any Congress people that

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are elected that have those belief systems, whether communism or Islamism.

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And I know that sounds like a hard thing to

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deal with when you're talking about a country that has

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the First Amendment and the right to worship freely and

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those kind of things. But we have to really figure

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out exactly what we're talking about because an ideology like

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Islamism is an ideology that's like communism. That's why they

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go hand in hand, and people call it, even call

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it the Red Green Alliance, is because they are ideologies.

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They are not religions exactly.

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Perspective of the First Amendment, and the American people need

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to understand it. And it starts with us. If we

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don't stand up in our school board meetings, if we

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don't stand up in our churches, if we don't stand

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up in our city councils and our county commissions and

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everywhere across this land to object to this and insist

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that our laws be followed and that these people not

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be seated because they cannot support and defend the Constitution

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the way it's supposed to be being implemented, then we

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will fail ill. But that's why this book is important.

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It's about what you can do about it, exactly, and

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the words can do. That's what America is all about.

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That's why I wrote it this way.

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And the first thing again is you've got to understand

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and pursue the truth no matter where it leaves, and

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appreciate that your eyes are not lying to you. Your

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eyes are telling you what's happening. And you know, we

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know Islamists, you know, believe in takia, which is you know,

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gives them the conscience to lie and be deceptive. Of

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course we're seeing this happening in Iran and in other

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Muslim countries. That's what they do. And you know, and

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so you just have to look at the fruit of

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what they bring. I mean, what have they brought to

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America that you can say, Man, I'm sure glad they're here.

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I mean, you know, just in Minnesota alone, look at

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all the fraud that's been taking place there. Billions of

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dollars of citizens there in Minnesota have been deprived of

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services and that money has gone to soa.

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Exactly right, and attacks the other thing they brought to

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America is over attacks on individual liberty. Women are treated

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like shadow slavery, chattel slaves. Children have no say whatsoever,

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no standing in that society. Animals are treated inhumanly every

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single day by those that have come here and have

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not given up their ideology. You know, I have Muslim

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friends that are Americans through and through. They have bought

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into the idea of America, and they could swear to

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defend the constitution of the United States. But the people

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you're seeing, like especially Zoran Mondammie, all you have to

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do is look at the video that the man put

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out on July fourth. It's disgusting what he was doing.

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He's been in the country less than eight years. He's

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never had a real job. He's a trust fund baby,

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and he's an Islamist in addition to being a Marxist,

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and he he hates this country. He hates what you,

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my fellow Americans, stand for, which is the right to

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live free, the right to have the opportunity to be prosperous,

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the right to own private property. He hates those ideas

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and is set about to destroy them. That means he

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should be denaturalized and deported because he lied on his

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citizenship application, and he lied under his oath to support

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and defend the Constitution. That's the direction we have to

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take on this. We can't make it about the so

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called islam religion. We've got to make it about the

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Constitution of the United States and the ability and the

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exellingness to defend it or not. Either with us or

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you're against us, and a lot on the left are

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against those of us who still believe in this declaration.

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And the Constitution of the United States.

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Goes back to what we talked about initially, and that's

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the foundational issue. You compromise the foundation. Here's what you got, Carl.

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I want to talk to you about Iran. What's your assessment.

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It's very difficult to negotiate with terrorists in Iran is

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the world's leading sponsor of state terrorism around the world,

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not just in the Middle East, it's around the world.

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And while I appreciate President Trump's desire to achieve peace,

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and I also appreciate his willingness to take this issue

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on and finally in the war that started when I

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was a seventeen year old in the Air Force uniform

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in nineteen seventy nine, to finally end that war on

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America and on freedom by taking these folks on. And

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I appreciate his willingness to do it some kind of

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peace negotiation with him, but he's got to remember what

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Thomas Jefferson and John George Washington all learned when first

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dealing with what they called the Muslim Musulman, the Muslims, yes,

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Barbary Coast and Morocco, and that is they learned the

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hard way that while the Moroccans, for instance, signed the

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first treaty with the United States and recognize the United

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States as the country before any other country, before they

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got to that point, the United States had to hammer

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them because they were stealing our ships, they were kidnapping

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our people and selling them into slavery. And they weren't

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black people, folks, they were white people, and they were

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holding them for ransom, and they were requiring tribute to

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go through international waters around there. And what did the

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United States have to learn to do? Fight back and

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crush them. That's how we ended up with a treaty

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with Morocco and why they recognized US as the first

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country to recognize the United States internationally. And if we

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don't understand that and stay with that, lesson, then the

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Iranians will wiggle out of the accountability that this president

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has had the courage to hold them to.

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Colonel we said on this show, being a marine myself

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and certainly know my brother was Air Force, so no

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slight to the Air Force whatsoever. But I remind people

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of Jefferson's statement, and you alluded as you started to

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say that, I said, yeah, Jefferson had a very quick response.

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After studying the Qur'an, he realized the Muslims and what

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their ideology was all about, and his statement was sending

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the Marines right.

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That's right. There's one fun picture on the wall of

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my office. I keep it in front of me even

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when I'm on camera. I can see it, and it's

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a picture of the US Constitution, USS Constitution leading the

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American fleet onto the shores of Tripoli and paying them

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an iron, which is cannonballs from their cannons on the

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ships as the Marines were landing there in Tripoli. That's

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there for a reason. I was in the Pentagon on

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nine to eleven. I grew up with Muslims, had my

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first interaction with them, and when I was nine years

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old in Morocco as a kid when I lived there.

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I understand them incessantly. In that print of the USS Constitution,

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payment and iron has been hanging on my wall that

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since two thousand and three, two thousand and two. I

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take that back two thousand and two, because I understand

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the combat and the war that is being waged against us,

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because we are free men.

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Well, the Bible says that there's a time for peace

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and a time for war. And what it tells me

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is that you better know the difference.

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Yes, you do have to know the difference. And you

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have to know the difference between an enemy that is

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capable of negotiating peace and an enemy that will refuse

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to negotiate peace and do everything that they can, including

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agreed to peace, to continue their war against you until

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you're dead.

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Yeah, if you don't have trust, you don't have an agreement.

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That's foundation. Again, we're back to the foundation. Colonel Rob

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manis US Air Force retired author of the new book.

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Get your hands on it, because it's going to cause

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personal sentiment? What are you doing? What are you doing

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what can I do about it? Taking real action against corruption, radicalism,

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and moral decay to save America. We see it, we

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No Nas. Jeff Kemp, the speaker and ministry leader. Hey Jeff,

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how you doing, buddy?

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I'm good. How are you?

503
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Bill?

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Happy Hawaiian vacation to you.

505
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Yeah, Hey, Helloha. It's a great time here, you know,

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whenever you're around the grand kids and everything, and of

507
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course it's been a couple of years, so it's like,

508
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oh my god. They're just they're like different human beings,

509
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.000
especially the younger one. The younger one is so animated

510
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.799
right now, he's completing sentences, He has thoughts, he has ideas,

511
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.599
you know, it's just it's hysterical. It's just you know,

512
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every once in a while, Jeff, you get these moments.

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I know you have as well, whenever you're around your

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kids or the grand kids, the great grandkids. In my

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case as well, is you just feel like, you go, God,

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you've blessed me more than I deserve. And if you

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want to bring me home now, it's been worth it,

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you know what I'm saying.

519
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Yeah, it's worth pinching yourself and soaking it in and

520
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.359
knowing that he gave it. And I'm glad that you're

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having that time. I enjoy that. And we were doing

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our big family get together. Yeah as well.

523
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:29.000
Right, exactly. Well, I want to talk about there was

524
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.400
a concept and I remember reading about this long ago,

525
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about the tyranny of the urgent. Is it sometimes we

526
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.480
can get caught up in going so fast and you know,

527
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.680
living on the hamster wheel of life, and we're driven

528
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.680
by what we do. As my friend used to say,

529
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you know, God didn't create us to be human doings.

530
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He created us to be human beings. And I had

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to think about that and I go, yeah, you know,

532
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.000
because especially where I was when he told me that,

533
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.559
and at that point in my life. It was like, yeah,

534
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.240
I was about I didn't go on vacation, and somehow

535
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:03.640
even thought, in a weird sort of way, I was

536
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proud of it. You know, I hadn't got on a

537
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.519
vacation for eight years, you know, and like, how silly,

538
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.119
you know when you thought about it. And so after that,

539
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I started going on vacation, in fact, coming to Hawaii.

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You know, for twenty some years we just would with

541
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regularity come to the island of Kawaii. Now we're in Maui,

542
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.480
but Kawai was our kind of our second home, and

543
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we spend a lot of time on the island there.

544
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But it was like, you know, when I started doing,

545
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.000
I was going what took me so long? But you know,

546
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.279
you get caught up in doing and you miss out

547
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.480
on the being. And here we are, you know, a

548
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.640
little bit, a little bit more years behind us, and

549
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.759
we have some wisdom. And so our wisdom that we

550
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share with our kids and with our listeners is that hey,

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look at slow down, slow down, don't get caught up,

552
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because the urgent will start commanding your life and you

553
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.279
are you end up, you become enslaved by that, and

554
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.799
God wants us to live free and be the best

555
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.319
version of ourselves, right he does.

556
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:13.440
God is about freedom, but it's freedom within limits, and

557
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.720
limits have something to do with knowing when to say enough.

558
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A Bible teacher named Marty Solomon, who studies the Hebrew

559
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.039
language and the Hebrew culture in which the Old Testament

560
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.400
was written and the location in which the New Testament

561
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.960
was recorded, says that a lot of the nature of

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God that we fail to see is that God is

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a God who knows how to even limit himself. He knows,

564
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:47.759
after creating for six days, that it's a day of rest.

565
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Right.

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He creates a sabbath, He creates boundaries for the ocean.

567
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If we didn't have the concept of enough, we would

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burn out. We wouldn't appreciate the moment. That's what you're

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00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.839
talking about with your grandchildrenation and the change from the

570
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days where you were just grinded out workaholism. And it's

571
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.559
not just that urgent things pop on us. We create

572
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:20.599
urgency through our sense of fomo right fear. Some people

573
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:25.160
like me are fun loving sees the day have as

574
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.799
much excitement and adventure as you can. And I drive

575
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.440
my family crazy because they can't vacation on vacation because

576
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.519
I'm planning too much. The same attitude comes sometimes into

577
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.480
my ambition that wants to do so much with this

578
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:40.200
group of men and this group of men, and I

579
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:43.000
want to help with that marriage event and this fathering thing,

580
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.519
and I want to show up at this American Patriotism

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thing and make a comment on that. My fear of

582
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.680
missing out maybe because we wrap our identity up too

583
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.319
much in being significant.

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Or common stuff right by what we do, by.

585
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:01.160
What we do human doings, we fill up the space

586
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.759
so there's no margin, and that creates urgency in all

587
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.160
these different things, not our best self. It's not good

588
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.079
for marriage. It's not good for sleep, it's not good

589
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:14.599
for health. It's not good for grandkids who can't see

590
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.319
grandma and grandpa. Slow down. You know, my grandma and

591
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.599
grandpa they had a different pace when they were elderly. Frankly,

592
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.200
I do know how to adjust when we carve out

593
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.720
grandpa time, which this last week was Grandma Grandpa camp.

594
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.200
One of our kids was grandkids was at our house.

595
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:33.279
I played with them, I was in the pool, I

596
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:34.640
took them on a hike in them mount and we

597
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.279
went biking. We threw football, so we played pickleball, We

598
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.720
did a million things, but I was focused on him.

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But it took that kind of focus for me to

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say enough work, now, time with my grandson. But I

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00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.319
need that pace all the time. I need to stop

602
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.440
and turn off the clock at five point thirty and

603
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.720
go downstairs to be with my wife instead of staying

604
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.880
up on my computer. And everyone has their own version.

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00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.119
What is it that you fear missing out on? What

606
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:07.279
is it that you let become too urgent to where

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you're not present. One of the great wisdoms of God

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found in all throughout the Bible is the concept of

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waiting on God and his provision and his timing. Psalm

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00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.559
twenty five to one says, Lord, I turn to you,

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my God. I trust in you. I wait for you.

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Lord.

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That's a pleasure and a question asked, am I waiting

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on him? Do I understand the goodness of waiting if

615
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I'm not acknowledging his goodness and his sovereignty.

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One of my favorite verses in Isaiah is but those

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who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength. You know,

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at our age, Jeff, we get sometimes to that point

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where we're going. You know, I'm just not as strong

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as I used to be. I'm just I don't quite

621
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have the endurance that I have. But God promises that

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he'll renew our strength so that we can walk and

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run and you know, mount up on wings of eagles.

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Isaiah says, I mean Bible versus. It was a funny

625
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:23.199
story back in nineteen let's say nineteen ninety one. I

626
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.239
got cut after losing a game on Sunday Night football

627
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.320
to the Raiders. I was with the Seahawks, and at

628
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.440
dinner that night, my son Kyle said the prayer, Dear God,

629
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.320
thanks for the food, Thanks for Daddy, Please give me

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00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:35.880
the team I wanted to be in, the Eagles.

631
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Amen.

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Like, where did that come from? He doesn't even know

633
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.679
that Philadelphia is a professional football team, which, by the way,

634
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.079
the next day their team called me and signed me.

635
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:46.960
And I was in Philly the next morning after that,

636
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:51.039
So Kyle's prayer was empty. It was because our family

637
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.119
Bible verse that Stacy and I have passed on to

638
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.119
our kids is Isaiah forty thirty one. Yes, right, Lord

639
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.480
shall renew their strength, mount up with wings as eagles,

640
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.239
run and not be weary, walk and not faint. We

641
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.000
get our strength from God, and we also get our

642
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.519
pace from God. That's the hard part, that's the pace

643
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.280
of your life. Is it too much? Are you missing

644
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.639
out on the timing of the Lord, the peace, the

645
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.280
shalom of the Lord. In Psalm twenty seven, it goes

646
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on and says again, I am certain that I will

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see the Lord's goodness. So God will provide not only

648
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:32.559
what I need on this earth, but in the land

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of the living for eternity. And then verse fourteen says,

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wait for the Lord. Be strong and courageous, wait for

651
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:46.480
the Lord. He wraps that oreo, strong and couragous. Isn't

652
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.119
in Jeff, It's not in Bill, It's not in our well,

653
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.639
it's not in our muscle, our self will. It's waiting

654
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.119
on the Lord, which is a version of trust. Trust

655
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:59.519
his purpose, his game plans better than yours. His will

656
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:04.639
is better than years, and his right ours is very impatient.

657
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:06.800
Give it to me right now. Every product in America

658
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.159
is trying to speed speed speed. Not good.

659
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.920
Well exactly, And you know, let's go back into the

660
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.599
desert experience the children of Israel. Here they are moving

661
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:20.280
as the light of God is taking them right and

662
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.159
they they're probably going, hey, we're going in circles here,

663
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.599
what's going on with this? And they were getting anxious,

664
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:30.280
but God was teaching them and teaching us with those

665
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.400
stories about waiting on Him, that not going ahead and

666
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.760
not falling behind, but staying, as you said, staying at

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pace with God. Because with God's that's our protection, that's

668
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.320
our peace, that's our provision. All those things that He

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00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:51.119
has promised us, as you said, are tied to him,

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and unanchored from him, we enter into a world of

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chaos and distraction.

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00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:02.480
Well, we're in the age of adult children parenting, Stacy

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and I are, and one of the lessons we've learned,

674
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and me particular, since I'm such an advice giver and

675
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:13.079
overboard mentor, is to be quiet, ask questions, and when

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there's something we're concerned about or that we'd like to

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see change in their life. Remember, they are their own adults.

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00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:24.559
We have at their parent friend, not their parenting authority,

679
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.800
and unsolicited advice is taking his criticism. So the only

680
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:35.360
recourse we have is be a friendly, loving parent, encouraging

681
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.920
and be pray, pay and trust God to work. We

682
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.000
have seen such cool things that took two years to

683
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:47.119
happen that we prayed about where we could have messed

684
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:48.880
it all up if we wanted to act two years

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00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:52.039
ago or you know, eighteen months ago. So if that's

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00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:56.119
my encouragement to everyone listening, ask God for his timetable.

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Say God, help me trust where I don't trust that

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00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.320
your is better and help me just pray about this,

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00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:07.199
which is my version of action for waiting on the Lord,

690
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.480
Like what do you do? Sit there and twiddle your thumbs. No,

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00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.800
you say, I trust you do it your way, and

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00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:14.599
help me not to mess it up in the meantime

693
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through impatience.

694
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Right, that will be done. On that, we'll leave it. Jeff,

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00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.000
where can they be in touch with you at?

696
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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with the infamous

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Nick cong goddess. I mean, I just love saying your

771
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name Nick.

772
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Yes, it's it's a good one.

773
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Well, I love it. I mean I could see it.

774
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I could see it on you know, the streaming lights

775
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just out there. In fact, you don't even eat Nick,

776
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:46.880
you just becung goddess.

777
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.719
Yeah yeah, you know. Actually, you know, when I was

778
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playing baseball for twenty years, nobody ever used nobody ever

779
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.280
called me Nick. They just called me Coangoddis.

780
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Yeah right, well that's because that's what athletes do.

781
00:43:58.039 --> 00:43:58.199
Right.

782
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.320
Let me know you by your last name. You know,

783
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.639
it's kind of deal. Yeah, yeah exactly. So as long

784
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as you don't end up with a red card or something,

785
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you know, you're okay, right.

786
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.840
Well I think I'm safe with that with baseball.

787
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Right exactly. No, I love it.

788
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Well.

789
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Nick is a senior content creator with MRC Video, and

790
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it's it's great to catch up with you. I mean,

791
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just speaking of soccer anyway, you know, the country's a

792
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buzz with all that's going on, and it looks like

793
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it's going to be quite the game. Of course, by

794
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.440
the time this airs, the game will have taken place

795
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and will know whether or not, you know, all was

796
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.679
well and America goes on to it's you know, it's

797
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.679
next level of play or you know, Belgium. But I

798
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think you know, Donald Trump has it right, you know,

799
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and you being an athlete, you understand this. I mean,

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you want to win with the best players on the field,

801
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and you know it's you don't want to have some

802
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kind of unfair advantage because if if there was, you know,

803
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you'd almost have if they didn't put an asterix on

804
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that on a win where they didn't have their best

805
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player on the field, you'd have one in your heart

806
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and in your mind.

807
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Right well, I mean technically, if you think about it,

808
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if we're going by you know, and I don't know

809
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.480
a ton about soccer or football or whatever you want

810
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to call it, but you know, I do know that

811
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their player, Christian Polisic, he's supposed to be the best

812
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player on the team, and he's kind of been persona

813
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non grata during this tournament. And Ballo Gun the guy

814
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.880
who got the red card initially, he's he's been the

815
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star of the show so.

816
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:36.480
Far, right exactly, well, and the other thing too, I asked,

817
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was remember the guy that he ran into? I said,

818
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did they take him out of the did he lose

819
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time or anything like that. I mean, you know, this

820
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is the thing about soccer. You know, when they go down,

821
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:49.840
they go into historyonics and I mean it's like they're

822
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going for an oscar, you know.

823
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And that's why I can't like, look, look, I respect

824
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:56.400
you know, it takes a lot of endurance, it takes

825
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a lot of stamina, a lot of athleticism. I just

826
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personally can't get into it unless it's the World Cup

827
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because there's it's so performative, right, it's like, oh my god,

828
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.000
I've been maimed. And it's like it's like nobody touched.

829
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.159
You, right, yeah, you barely got hit. I mean it's

830
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not like you're Caitlin Clark for goodness sakes, oh right, god,

831
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.880
which is a whole other issue just abuse, yeah, exactly,

832
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And and they're getting away with it. I mean, it's

833
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.039
like jungle ball, which you know, I don't know, it's

834
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.280
just you know, the WNBA has got to get control

835
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.440
of that situation. But my question was this guy that

836
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was supposedly you know, injured, stepped on in that it

837
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was like he went on and played, and America played

838
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.599
with one less player for the next thirty minutes. And

839
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.960
this guy's he's running around like nothing happened, Like, please

840
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give me a break. I mean, if he was if

841
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.239
he was playing and his foot was dragging still and

842
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.679
kind of just hanging by a thread, you go, okay,

843
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:51.760
maybe you know whatever, but it's like a red card,

844
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:52.559
give me a break.

845
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.480
Well, if he was that hurt, they would have subbed

846
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.480
him out, yeah, exactly, And they would have subbed him

847
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.159
out immediately because it's it's the World Cup at that

848
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.159
and at that juncture, it's one and done. It's not

849
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like you're still in the group stage.

850
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:10.119
Right. Well, look at it's been a it's been a month,

851
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.679
been weeks. It's you know, of course we're you know,

852
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:14.920
looking at the fourth of July and the rearview mirror,

853
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:21.199
great celebration. You know, the reflecting pool, I guess is working.

854
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:25.599
It's reflecting and doing its thing. But you uncovered that

855
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:30.000
broadcasting cable Networks dedicated a staggering This is amazing to

856
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.079
me five hundred and seventy nine minutes thirty one seconds,

857
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:37.039
nearly ten full hours to tracking the maintenance of the

858
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.880
Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. What happened.

859
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.039
What happened is they have to focus the media has

860
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.920
to focus on anything that could even be adjacent construed

861
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:54.199
as negative towards the president. It's not like we had

862
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.760
a two hundred and fiftieth celebration coming up. And even

863
00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.880
if they cover that, even if they did cover that

864
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.079
at which they which they cover seldomly, they're going to

865
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.719
trash America anyway. So, you know, the reflecting pool is

866
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.880
just easy because you have these agitators and these paid

867
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:15.599
leftist activists that are that are basically poisoning the water, uh,

868
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.159
you know, with with and pro algae protesters. It's like,

869
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:19.880
come on, get a.

870
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.800
Life, yeah right, And and of course all this stuff,

871
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.679
you know, the destruction that was focused there around the pool,

872
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.840
you know, along with the death threat there, you know,

873
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:33.039
carved out like a you know, like some sort of

874
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:38.440
alien crop circle, you know about eighty six seing the president.

875
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.800
You know, it's just like you said, it's just trumped

876
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.679
arrangement syndrome that is occupying too much of their minds.

877
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.800
And I guess, you know, I'm just surprised that, you know,

878
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.760
are they getting numbers on this I mean, are people attracted.

879
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:56.960
To this the average person?

880
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:57.119
No?

881
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:02.840
Yeah, look nobody. I do what I do, and we

882
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.920
have a whole department, NewsBusters that is dedicated to counting

883
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:11.039
those minutes, counting those hours, letting you know what exactly

884
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:16.639
they're covering. Personally, I don't watch the news, any news.

885
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:18.679
And I have friends that ask me, well, how do

886
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.480
you do what you do? And you don't watch the news,

887
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.599
And I'm like, well, I want to be informed, right exactly,

888
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.320
So I just I don't watch. You know, I'll watch

889
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.760
a clip here and there if it's going viral or

890
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:33.760
if somebody says something particularly egregious in everything, But if

891
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.400
I want to stay informed and actually know what's going on,

892
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.000
not what some loser is upset about with a pool,

893
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.719
then I just don't watch the news.

894
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.800
Right exactly. Well, you know again here we are celebrating

895
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.280
our two hundred and fiftieth birthday and the same networks.

896
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.519
I mean, the way they reported, you would think that

897
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:58.000
America was the worst idea that ever came down the pike,

898
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.599
you know, the way they reported, or just you know,

899
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.440
just didn't even care about reporting. Whereas you had a

900
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.840
situation like at Boxers, they were getting ready to do

901
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.760
the uh you know, the celebration and carry live uh

902
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.239
you know, the fireworks and the president's speech and everything,

903
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.840
and interrupted got a rangel there and they end up

904
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.679
talking to all these veterans, which was I mean, it

905
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.960
was just precious. I mean, you've got one vet one

906
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.159
hundred and seven years old, Nick, Huh.

907
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:32.239
Absolutely, I think I think that's wonderful. I think it

908
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:36.320
keeps in focus the people who have shed blood and

909
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:41.199
lost brothers and sisters to keep this country, you know,

910
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.760
to keep us in the in the accustomed to the

911
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.960
style of living that that that we are accustomed to,

912
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.920
right and the freedoms that that we take for granted.

913
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.119
I mean, look at all the Europeans and everything that

914
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.760
have come over here during the World Cup and they

915
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:59.400
are just like we've been lied to by Psachdia and

916
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.800
how offt this country is. And they're like, we have

917
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.639
never been around nicer people in our lives. The food

918
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:10.519
is great. There's air conditioning everywhere, you know, even in countries.

919
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.679
You know, I've been to Greece three times, I've been

920
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.840
to Italy. They're in major cities. There are places that

921
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.679
still do not have air conditioning.

922
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:19.199
Yeah.

923
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.039
So you know, I watched one video of a guy

924
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.320
I forgot where he was from, somewhere in Europe, and

925
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.119
he was in his hotel room and he was just

926
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.880
hovering over the air conditioning and he's like, I'm never

927
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:29.559
going home.

928
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.000
Yeah, I bet well, how do you go home? And

929
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.440
you know, like you said, you know, according to the

930
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:39.920
reports I'm getting, only twenty percent of Europe has air conditioning,

931
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.320
and there's no prospect that air conditioning will be coming soon.

932
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.639
We'll tell you what. I think they're gonna be hard

933
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.400
press because you've got all these people who have come

934
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.519
to America have experienced air conditioning and oh yes, Ice,

935
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.599
you know, lest we forget, and they're gonna go and

936
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.960
they're going to start to demand it of their countries

937
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.159
and saying, you know, the heck with this, you know,

938
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.360
this plant agenda, this green energy agenda that you're doing here,

939
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:10.199
we're you know, you know, we're hotter than Hades and

940
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.159
people are dying because of the heat.

941
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.199
And you know it's not just it's think about it

942
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.960
this way. I guarantee you they're starting to realize. Yeah,

943
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:23.280
but all the government buildings that we pay for with

944
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:26.639
our tax money, I bet you they all have air conditioning.

945
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:30.039
And it's not just the air conditioning in the UK.

946
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:33.400
It's a big growing movement where they're starting to talk

947
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:39.559
about a two tiered justice system, where they're starting to understand, hey,

948
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.840
there's one set of rules for these people and there's

949
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.440
another set of rules for everybody else, and the victims

950
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:49.360
are the ones getting arrested, while the criminals are the

951
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:50.559
ones being venerated.

952
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:52.840
Well, look at that story about the eighteen year.

953
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.400
Old Nick Henry Novak.

954
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.559
What a heartbreaking story. This young man he.

955
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.639
Said he got staffed, yes, multiple times, and the cop

956
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:04.559
has the nerve to be like, I don't think you

957
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:05.519
have mate.

958
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.079
Yeah, and he puts him in handcuffs and he bleeds

959
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:10.320
out right there on the ground.

960
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:16.360
Yep, while while the actual criminal is there lying to

961
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.519
the police, and the police believe the criminal.

962
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:23.280
Unbelievable. Well, getting back to the contrast, because this is

963
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:26.360
what you do, and you point out the contrast. We

964
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.199
talked about how much time was spent on the reflecting

965
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:34.199
pool by these cable networks and meanwhile, all the shootings

966
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.880
and everything going on in Chicago crickets.

967
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:41.639
Listen, I covered I covered Chicago weekend shootings for four

968
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:46.000
years every Monday. I would report on how many people

969
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.880
were shot, wounded, and killed for four years straight every week.

970
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.119
And let me tell you something, I was the only

971
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:58.880
one in the conservative movement doing that, and nobody cared.

972
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:03.320
Nobody cared unless it's unless it's some kind of race

973
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:06.639
I don't understand. Unless it's some kind of race motivated thing,

974
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:08.400
nobody seems to care.

975
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:13.079
I guess what is it that Chicago has so many

976
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.280
black people that they need to call the herd and

977
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.039
it's okay if the gangs go and you know, kill

978
00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:19.960
a you know, a fellow black or not.

979
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:24.440
Well, you know, I obviously primarily because most of these

980
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.480
shootings are are gang related. Yes, so it's not just

981
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.800
black people. There's a lot of Hispanics that you know,

982
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:35.760
like Latin Kings and stuff like that, that engage in

983
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:39.800
that kind of activity. It is primarily it is primarily

984
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:43.199
the black community. And I don't see black lives matter.

985
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:45.400
And I brought this up at the time, this was

986
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:47.840
five six years ago, when we were going through the

987
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:48.719
Summer of Floyd.

988
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:49.519
Right.

989
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:53.239
They don't care that they are killing each other by

990
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:57.880
the thousands. They only care when they can somehow profit

991
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:00.159
off of it, like Carmelo, Anthony's family he.

992
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:01.519
Has exactly right.

993
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:05.199
Or George Floyd or George Floyd's family. Let me tell

994
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:08.599
you something. There was a documentary about George Floyd and

995
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:12.599
they interviewed George Floyd's roommates at the time he was killed,

996
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.800
and they said he lived there for four or five years,

997
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:21.440
and not once did any family member ever visit him.

998
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:25.559
All of a sudden he dies in a highly publicized event.

999
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:27.960
All of a sudden, here they come out of the woodwork.

1000
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.960
Oh we loved George. Where were you for five or

1001
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:31.760
six years?

1002
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.719
Yeah, well, George didn't have twenty seven million dollars waiting

1003
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:38.480
there at the footsteps, so the concrete that's what happened,

1004
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:41.320
exactly Well, Nick, and Godness, we gotta leave it there.

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Hey, good morning, Bill Martinez here along with doctor Michael Butler. Michael,

1032
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how you doing doing very well?

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Bill?

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00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:12.719
Thanks for having me, as you know, it's always by

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pleasure to be there.

1036
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.039
Well, great to have you here for us to you know,

1037
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:19.360
review the hits here. The President is in Turkey We've

1038
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got a big NATO meeting, all the Native nations coming together.

1039
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:27.440
Trump hopefully will come away with some you know, deliverables,

1040
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:33.599
look like some investment, maybe some F thirty fives for Erwan,

1041
00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:36.360
which is making some people on the hill a little cranky.

1042
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:41.039
But you know, as Donald Trump has said, Ertawan, though

1043
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:44.719
he may not be specifically in love with beaming Yahoo,

1044
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.480
that's okay. But he's been there to support the United

1045
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:51.159
States and this president, you know, pretty consistently.

1046
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:57.719
Yes, he certainly has. The problem some people have with

1047
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:02.360
the F thirty fives is Turkey bought an air defense

1048
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:08.559
system from Russia, right Russia, and uh, you know, there's

1049
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:10.719
a little bit of conflict there. If we give them

1050
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:14.320
our technology and he's got some of the Russian technology,

1051
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.800
I'm not sure how all that's that's gonna work. And

1052
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.039
also is a Turkey and ally of ours if they

1053
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:25.039
buy things from Russia. So it's a little bit of

1054
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:32.159
a problem with that. Okay. So with NATO, Trump said, look,

1055
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:36.000
he wants the NATO nations to spend up the five

1056
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:40.320
percent of their GDP on defense. They've increased somewhat, they're

1057
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:42.960
all not up to the five percent. In Spain, for

1058
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:46.599
some reason doesn't want to spend much on defense.

1059
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:48.880
No.

1060
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.599
Uh, so they're going to put a lot of questions

1061
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:54.800
to Trump as to what is going to happen with

1062
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:58.159
the Iran war. The way it is now, there's a

1063
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:04.440
very fragile sixty days cease fire, which Iran has already

1064
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:06.800
broken twice. There's a little bit of a pause this

1065
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:13.559
week because the funeral of Ayatola. But Trump gave them

1066
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.480
sixty days to work this out. Now, what's going to

1067
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:20.519
happen at the end of sixty days. Iranians are very

1068
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:24.920
good at negotiating and dragging things out. So I don't

1069
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.920
think an agreement will be reached in sixty days and

1070
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.800
the Iranians will say, well, give it another thirty days,

1071
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:33.559
give a little more time. I don't know that Trump

1072
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.960
is going to do that. Recall, he gave Iran fifty

1073
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:41.719
days to come up with an agreement months ago, they didn't,

1074
00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:45.519
and the next day he started bombing. He may take

1075
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:49.519
the same view here if this isn't resolved within sixty days.

1076
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:56.000
In my view, he's been more than generous. Exactly. Trump

1077
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:58.960
doesn't want to see people killed, so if there's some

1078
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:02.079
way that he can work this out, even though Iran

1079
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:06.880
has a long history of dragging negotiations out and even

1080
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:08.760
when they come up with a deal, they don't live

1081
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:13.119
up to the deal. So even with all that, Trump said, look,

1082
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:16.639
I could go in and obliterate the country, you know,

1083
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.360
a matter of days, But I don't want to do

1084
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:22.599
that because It'll kill too many people, and I'd have

1085
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:26.480
to destroy the infrastructure, and after this is over, Iran

1086
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:34.119
would be a hurting country. However, Trump's patience I think

1087
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:36.320
is going to wear thin, and at the end of

1088
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.760
sixty days, if we don't have an agreement, I think

1089
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.119
Trump will look at the military option and finally ending

1090
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:47.400
this thing. This has been dragging on too long. Fortunately,

1091
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.639
we sort of have the straits of Hormuz open, so

1092
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.199
there's some oil flowing, and that's brought the price of

1093
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:58.079
oil back down under seventy dollars a barrel within the

1094
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.440
next week or two. It's got to filtered through this system.

1095
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.480
But then next week or two you'll see gasoline going

1096
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:09.519
way down, probably in the low three dollars per gallon range.

1097
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:13.119
In addition to that, the OPEC nations and what they

1098
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.000
call the OPEC plus nations, which are the original eleven

1099
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:22.199
and some others. They've agreed to increase production in August.

1100
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:26.199
So with more oil coming through the Straits and with

1101
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:31.320
more production from OPEC, we should see oil prices drop further.

1102
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:35.239
I wouldn't be surprised to see gasoline under three dollars

1103
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:39.519
a gallon before the end of the year, and possibly lower.

1104
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.760
Michael, is there anything we can do strategically to make

1105
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:47.559
the Strait of Hormoes somewhat inconsequential, because right now it's

1106
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:51.119
a choke point and a leverage point for Iran because

1107
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:53.840
you've got twenty percent of the world's oil going through

1108
01:01:53.880 --> 01:02:00.760
there now with the Opeck, you know, plus nations increasing productivity,

1109
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:04.599
maybe that could help, you know, reduce some of the

1110
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:08.440
significance of the strait to where, you know, we start

1111
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.159
talking chump change. If Iran wants to go ahead and

1112
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:14.679
try to you know, get you know, gain some tolls

1113
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:17.400
from you know, people passing through the Strait of Hormones,

1114
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.480
but I don't see how the president or the other nations,

1115
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:22.119
neighboring nations can put up with that.

1116
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:27.519
No, I don't think they'll allow that. And at the

1117
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:31.599
end of the sixty days, if the Straight of Hormones

1118
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:34.599
isn't completely open. I think Trump the first thing we'll

1119
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.360
do is take military action to protect the Strait and

1120
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:41.400
make sure all the oil and other goods can can

1121
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:45.119
flow through there. Once that happens, that will continue to

1122
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:48.239
bring the price of oil down, gasoline down, and then

1123
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:52.199
you'll see the overall inflation rate go down. Because not

1124
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:55.840
only do oil prices directly impact what we pay for

1125
01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:00.519
gasoline and heating oil, that it affects what business pays

1126
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:04.920
for their energy to produce goods. It also pay influences

1127
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.480
what the trucking companies have to pay for their fuel

1128
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.119
to transport. So the economy doesn't work when oil prices

1129
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.639
are high and inflation is high. It just doesn't work.

1130
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:19.519
But if energy prices come down, as we are looking

1131
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.199
forward to, and the inflation rate ends up going down,

1132
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:26.920
maybe close to the two percent FED target by the

1133
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.719
end of the year, now the Fed can start cutting

1134
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:33.599
interest rates to further stimulate the economy. And with all

1135
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:36.960
of the investment taking place so far in the first

1136
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:41.760
half of this year and likely to continue, I think

1137
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:45.239
you'll see a lot of growth in the economy. One

1138
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:48.719
last point, why is investment increasing so much, Well, part

1139
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:51.960
of it is the deals Trump made with foreign countries

1140
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:53.960
and they're coming in to build their plants here.

1141
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:58.840
What about eighteen nineteen trillions.

1142
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.440
He says, it's up to Trillia. That's a huge amount

1143
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:09.760
of investment coming into coming into the country. The other thing,

1144
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.639
in the big beautiful bill they passed in July, it

1145
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:17.880
said that if business makes an investment this year, they

1146
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:22.559
can expense the investment entirely this year. In other words,

1147
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.960
if you buy a building, the IRS says that it's

1148
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:28.199
going to take twenty five years for you to recover

1149
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:31.639
your capital. Now, if you buy a building, you can

1150
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:34.559
write the whole thing off and recover your capital this year.

1151
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:38.119
Investment spending was up over ten percent in the first

1152
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.400
quarter of this year. Second quarter of data is not

1153
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:43.039
out yet, but over the first in the first quarter,

1154
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.719
I expect even greater increase in the second quarter. With

1155
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:52.480
all that investment, you'll see high economic growth. Before this

1156
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:56.519
around conflict started, I forecasted growth would be up to

1157
01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:59.559
four percent by the end of the year. I think

1158
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.360
we could see that. So it's four percent economic growth,

1159
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:07.760
low inflation, low unemployment. Trump likes to call this the

1160
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.599
golden years are coming, and he may be right.

1161
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.840
Yeah, the golden age for America.

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We're talking with doctor Michael Butler's public policy analyst, economics expert,

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and professor of finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. Michael,

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just one more point and kind of tie a ribbon

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around Iran and in the strait of hormo'es uh. Maybe

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strategically the president might have to make a move. You know,

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it's come up several times to make a move on

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Cork Island. You know, that is a critical terminal, and

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if America was to control that, that could be a

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huge bargaining chip there to you know, to get Iran

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to behave themselves and to you know, be friendly neighbors

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of that's possible. I still I'm very, very pessimistic that

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the regime will ever play nice. It's not part of

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their vernacular. It's not their nature. You're you're asking, you know,

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a goat to do something that a cow would do.

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It's not going to happen.

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I agree with you there. Their history forever has always

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been they take a long time to negotiate a deal,

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they finally do, and then they don't live up to

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what they said they were going to do. Trump thinks

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he can work around that and he can get them

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to come up with the deal and live up to it.

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He says, it's because they've killed most of the upper

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level hard liners. But I'm not sure that people coming

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up are are not hard liners too.

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Yeah. Well they've been you know, for generations, Michael. That's

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what they've been taught, is this hard line theocratic Uh so, look,

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you know, philosophy.

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But I don't think he will be And I think

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the military option, Yeah, I think the military option is

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the one that's going to have to be used ultimately.

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In my opinion is sooner the better, let's get this.

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Thing over with. Well, yeah, I'm like you. I think

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that had he done this early on, we'd have been

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over it and the Democrats wouldn't have a whole lot

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to talk about. And the pundits, you know, and liberal

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media and that, what are they gonna what are they

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01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:49.359
gonna complain about? You know? So anyway, we're in this

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right now. We're trusting the president that you know, hopefully

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he knows better and he's getting the right kind of counsel.

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But he's got you know, I mean, he's got a

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lot of players here. I mean, you got personality is

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averta Wan and Jerkey, You've got BEB and Yahoo you

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got the huties, you got Hesbela. I mean, who who wants?

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Who wants this job? Michael?

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He says he loves his job, he loves doing it,

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and you sort of wonder why every every everywhere he turns.

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There's another problem. I think his biggest enemy is the

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Democratic Party because every time it tries to do something

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positive for the country, they they have some kind of

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a problem with it, and uh, they vote know everything

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he puts up, the Democrats will vote no on everything.

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He's got to get the approval of all the Republicans

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to get things going. We have a very slim majority

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in both chambers. In the Senate, you've got three or

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four senators that seem to want to vote against him.

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And now Mitch McConnell's in the hospital. He's coming back,

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so that could be, uh, that could be for their problems.

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You're going to try to get things through a reconciliation bill,

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which means they only need fifty votes in the Senate,

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but you've got three or four Murkowski, Collins, Tillis, Cassidy

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who seemed to vote against Trump, and McConnell's not there,

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So I don't know if they're going to be able

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to get up up to the fifty votes.

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Right. Well, here, we've got less than a month that

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the Senate is going to be in session, and they've

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got to move the ball up the field and get it,

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you know, get it into the goal here and and

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John Thune. There's no question it's not going to be

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a piece of cake. But he's going to be measured.

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His leadership will be measured on his bottom line and

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what he's produced to the American people. The American people

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don't want to They could care less about, you know,

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the resistance of the Democratic Party that's been always there.

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You know, your job and the reason you got elected

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was to do something. And you know, it seems like

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more has been done by Donald Trump's efforts than it

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has been by Congress. I mean, I will give some

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credit to the House in Mike Johnson, I think that

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they've supported the President in many ways, but when it

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comes down to the Senate, unfortunately, like you said, three

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or four people, I mean, we're back in that situation.

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I keep reminding people, you know, we're back to Obamacare.

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And all it took was one Senator John McCain to

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mess things up, and the Republicans paid hardly for it

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all of for John McCain's ego to you know, in

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01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.319
a very smart Alex sort of way, put his thumb

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down on his vote.

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Right. Yeah, you know, they had this healthcare problem fixed.

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It was passed in the House and had to go

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to the Senate. They just needed a majority. Recall, John

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McCain had a cancer issue. He was in the hospital.

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He said, I'll come out of a hospital for this vote,

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01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:52.279
cast the fiftieth vote, and we can get this thing through.

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01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.520
And then he voted no. Now we're stuck with a

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healthcare system that is getting worse and worse. Headlines the

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01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:05.000
last day or two, millions of people are forced off

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01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:10.760
the Obamacare rolls because the government's not subsidizing even more.

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01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:15.439
The point is, we need a healthcare system that doesn't

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01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:20.159
require subsidies. We need a healthcare system that truly reduces costs.

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01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:26.399
Trump is trying what he can. Prescription drugs were ridiculously priced,

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01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:29.720
so were I can do that anymore. You can't charge

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01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:32.239
the US a high amount and everywhere else in the

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01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:35.720
country a low amount. You now have to charge Americans

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01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:42.279
what you charge the lowest customer, most favored nation status status. Yeah,

1352
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:45.279
you go on Trump our X, and there are medications

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01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.920
there very reasonably be priced. I have a friend of

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01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:53.600
mine who's dealing with a cancer issue. The medication he takes,

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01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.560
now it's covered by insurance, but the medication he takes,

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01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:00.399
if it wasn't covered, it was ten thousand dollars a month.

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01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:03.399
So I said to him, well, can you buy if

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01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:06.720
fortunately insurance is covering it, but if it wasn't, can

1359
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:09.399
you buy it somewhere else? He went to the Canadian

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01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:14.600
pharmacy the exact same drug, in the exact same bottle,

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01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:19.960
seven hundred and two dollars. That was over ten thousand to.

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01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:21.960
Us.

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01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:24.920
So Trump has fixed that. Now you have all these

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01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:27.760
expensive drugs going trump our X and it works. I've

1365
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:30.920
tried it, going trump our X, look up what you need.

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01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.640
You'll see the price is much lower than you've been

1367
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:39.399
quoted at the local drug store. So Trump is trying

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01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:42.479
to do what he can, but he really needs to

1369
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:48.039
revamp the whole healthcare system. The way Obamacare ended up working,

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01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:53.000
the insurance companies made phenomenal amounts of money, even the

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01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:57.000
drug companies phenomenal amounts of money, and where the premiums

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01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:02.399
were supposed to be going down, have skyrocketed exactly.

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01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:04.600
Yeah, and forget about keeping your doctor and all the

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01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:07.760
other lives that went with it, you know, Michael, I remember,

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01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:12.239
you know repeatedly Obama said, well, we've got thirty million

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01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:15.880
people that are not covered by insurance, and Obamacare will

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01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.039
take care of that thirty million. My question to this

1378
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:21.880
day and has been since then, was how many of

1379
01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:25.000
those thirty million people did we cover? And the fact

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01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.680
of the matter is right now, I think Obamacare is

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01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:32.640
somewhere maybe twenty twenty five million, and most of those

1382
01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:35.119
where people were forced into medicare.

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01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:40.640
Way less than that. So before Obamacare, ninety percent of

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01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:45.159
the population had health insurance, which they were reasonably happy with.

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01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:46.800
They don't like the cost of it, but they were

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01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:52.279
reasonably happy with it. After Obamacare, and today about ninety

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01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:56.119
two percent of the population is covered. So all this

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01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:59.640
did was help about two percent of the population, which

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01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:03.479
is about out six or seven million people. We still

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01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:08.119
have eight percent of the population not being covered and

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01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:12.199
wor shit. As we said before, premiums have skyrocketed. They've

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01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:16.039
just skyrocketed. I was paying it one time for just

1393
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.279
my wife and kids are gone. I remember, we're paying

1394
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:22.560
ten twelve thousand a year. It's twenty six thousand dollars

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01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:26.800
a year now for the health insurance ridiculous. We have

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01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.920
to do something about this, and the sooner we do

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it the better.

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Well as we wrap things up a big thing. Of course,

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we had NASDAK and Wall Street come together to ring

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in the Trump accounts right.

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Trump accounts marvelous one thousand dollars to every new born

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born essentially during Trump's tournament in office. You're allowed to

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put money into that and it stays there. When you

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01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:57.319
turn eighteen, you can take it out. Three things you

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01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.239
can do with it. You can buy a house, I

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01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:04.000
use it for down payment, further education, or to start

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a business. So now when if people, if kids put

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in extra money, so you get you know, one hundred

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dollars on your birthday, You get money for shovel and

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the side snow. You get money for cutting the grass

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instead of going out and blowing it. Put it into

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their and kids on their phone can say, hey, my

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thousand dollars now up to twelve hundred dollars and it

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says I own a part of a share of Apple.

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Hey I just heard Apples coming out with the new

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iPhone eighteen their stock went up five percent. Hey, mine

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went up too. So it's good education for students because

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remember in K through twelve, they don't teach capitalism is

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a good thing. They teach it it's a bad thing. Well,

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now all of these people, all these young children, they're

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now capitalists. A tabitalist of someone who supplies capital to

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01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:58.159
the economy. Well, they're supplied capital. They're capitalists, and as

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they watch their portfolio grow, they can see the benefits

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of capitalism. These trump accounts are a brilliant idea. It's

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going to add a little more capital to the economy.

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We have a capital intensive economy. We need it, especially

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since the federal governments in debt thirty nine trillion dollars,

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so they're pulling all that money out, so this will help.

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All of this is very very positive. I think this

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is a brilliant idea. Doesn't cost the taxpayers a penny, exactly,

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shipped in six billion, a few other people chipped in

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hundreds of millions. Doesn't cost the taxpayer a penny. Shows

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the benefits of capitalism, and it's a real education for

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our youth.

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Yeah, it's interesting how you talk about capitalism, is that

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01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:43.399
now you participate with it. And then here these kids

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01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:48.039
are being told about socialism. Well, with socialism, your capital

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will go to the socialist and you will not get

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any ROI or any return for your capital that you

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put into the government exactly.

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And they can see here as they're portfolio grows how

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01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:06.760
compound it works. And now when they turn eighteen, you

1443
01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:09.560
know a lot of people are saying, well with socialism,

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01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:13.760
looks good. We're electing socialist candidates. And you're right. If

1445
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:18.479
your socialism, all this capital that you've accumulated goes away.

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01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:22.560
So this is a marvelous idea for the present and

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the future. It's going to have great returns for everybody.

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01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:31.520
Doctor Michael Butler, public policy analyst, economics expert, and professor

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of finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. Michael, thank you,

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appreciate the time. Take care of my friend. Thanks Michael,

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Wilfrid Riley.

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He's the professor of political science at Kentucky State University.

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Hey will happy two hundred and fiftieth birthday, my friend.

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Yeah, save to your happy happy post fourth happy two

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to fiftieth.

1523
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:33.039
Yes exactly, yeah, two fifty o'run. Hey, we got to

1524
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milk it for all we got. I mean, this is

1525
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the only time we'll ever celebrate it, and lucky us

1526
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:43.760
we're here to see it first and ourselves.

1527
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Yeah, it's definitely one of those big moments. I don't

1528
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know if I'll be around for the three hundredth I

1529
01:25:49.399 --> 01:25:52.560
guess statistically probably I'll be in the late eighties early No,

1530
01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:54.000
I mean, so it's a different thing.

1531
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:56.319
Yeah. Well, I mean, hey, look at there was a

1532
01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:59.439
veteran the other night. He wasn't sure he was going

1533
01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:01.399
to be around one hundred and seven years old. He

1534
01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.359
made it that long. So but what a what a

1535
01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:06.760
great story. And I don't know if you saw that

1536
01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:08.760
picture or not, but they had those World War Two

1537
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:13.640
vets that were facing the fireworks there in DC. Oh,

1538
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:17.000
what what an iconic photo. That's just as awesome.

1539
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:20.600
Yeah, that's really cool. I mean, unless you openly dislike

1540
01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:23.199
the country, like, moments like that are really positive. You

1541
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:25.640
get to see like the fighting men from four or

1542
01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:29.199
five different wars hanging out together. And the as you know,

1543
01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:31.760
horses and cheerleaders and so on go by in the

1544
01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:34.000
street like I like America. So I enjoyed the love.

1545
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:36.960
We went to the local celebration, and obviously there's there's

1546
01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:38.600
a larger one in Louisville, and then a big one

1547
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:40.159
in Chicago, and then a giant one in d C.

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01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:43.359
So I was glad to see that most cities, including

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01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:45.600
a lot of blue cities that have sort of normal

1550
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:49.680
kind of ethnic guy leaders as opposed to DSA sort

1551
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:52.359
of candidates, they all went in and did stuff for

1552
01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:54.439
the fourth So even though there was some fighting at

1553
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:56.680
the national level, you definitely knew what was going on.

1554
01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:59.680
You saw the planes. There were flybys all day in Chicago.

1555
01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:04.880
Yeah, exactly. Well, and the thing is is that, you know,

1556
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:08.039
in spite of that, and as divided as our country

1557
01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:10.880
as I know, some people have commentated and said, this

1558
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:13.840
is probably the most divided we've ever been, I'm going, well,

1559
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:16.439
you know, I think that if you remember the Civil War.

1560
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:19.199
I wasn't there, but you know what I read about it,

1561
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:23.039
we're pretty well divided. We were able to overcome that.

1562
01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:25.520
There's been times in our history when that's been the case.

1563
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:28.800
I think right now. I mean, there's some metrics that

1564
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:31.760
you look at that are concerning especially I was looking

1565
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:35.479
at one poll that said that forty six of Americans

1566
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:40.960
don't know US history, you know, and some people want

1567
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:45.159
to be quick to blame, you know, our US education,

1568
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:47.760
you know, for that, But I say, look at that

1569
01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:51.479
starts at home, you know. You know, that sounds like

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01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:55.479
a home problem more than it does a problem you

1571
01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:58.399
know in the universities or in the high schools.

1572
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:00.600
You know, it's both.

1573
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:02.399
I mean, I think you and I have talked about

1574
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:04.960
this before, and I've done some scholarly writing about it,

1575
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:09.439
actually some public intellectual writing. But I mean education in

1576
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.680
the United States really does focus from kind of a

1577
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:16.359
left wing perspective on very specific things. So like there's

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01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:20.560
the Civil War. There's the Civil Rights movement, which was

1579
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:23.159
presented as kind of the new baptism of the country.

1580
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:26.479
That's when we became good. Everything before that was evil America.

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01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:31.119
There's feminism. There's Vietnam because so many people in the

1582
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:33.880
generation before mine fought in that war and it became

1583
01:28:33.920 --> 01:28:38.000
a cultural touchstone. So I'm no senators on their lines,

1584
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.560
everybody knows. But what that means is that most of

1585
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:44.560
the rest of history, like the conquest of the great planes,

1586
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.920
fighting the great Native tribes with honors on both sides,

1587
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:52.000
building the railroad, air travel began in the USA, space

1588
01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:56.079
travel that's not really emphasized. So yeah, I mean, like

1589
01:28:56.600 --> 01:28:58.520
I think the way I normally put this is all

1590
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:00.720
my students know who Harriet Tugh is, but none of

1591
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:03.199
them know who Henry Ford is. Almost none of them.

1592
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:05.239
If if you pull at the start of a class

1593
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:09.199
and you were to ask about Henry Ford, the Wright Brothers,

1594
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:13.520
Geronimo major figures, there'd be almost total ignorance at a

1595
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:15.560
pretty good state college. I think that's pretty standard.

1596
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:18.640
Well, you know, I got to tell you over the weekend,

1597
01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:22.159
I started binging I think it's called American Dynasty series,

1598
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:27.039
and it talked about all these great inventors and you know,

1599
01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:29.439
and you know, one right after another, you know, Johnson

1600
01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:32.199
and Johnson, you know, these these names that you hear

1601
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:36.199
about today, and but you you didn't understand, you know,

1602
01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:39.560
you didn't learn about their early beginnings and how it

1603
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:43.640
you know, how their organizations and their companies began, Carnegie

1604
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.359
and that what they were all about. But here they

1605
01:29:46.399 --> 01:29:49.720
were there was just they were such giant figures that

1606
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:54.840
were you know, required at the time, during the Industrial

1607
01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:58.840
Revolution and the way America exploded, And I just look

1608
01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:00.880
at it that, you know, really by the hand of God,

1609
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:04.279
they were chosen to be the ones to you know,

1610
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:08.640
lead our country into these different areas of business.

1611
01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:12.439
Yeah, I mean they're well, the Hindus say that there

1612
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.239
are four uh, and there's point here, but there are

1613
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.640
four casts of people. Basically, they're Brahmas, the scholars and

1614
01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:21.920
thinkers and so on. Politicians, they are Shatria, which is

1615
01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:25.720
warriors and leaders, Alexander the Great, and then there's Vasia,

1616
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:30.239
which is inventors, business people, crafts people, so on. And

1617
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:35.239
I think in our educational process we've almost forgotten that group,

1618
01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:39.439
and we're kind of moving away from the military history

1619
01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:41.680
that I learned as a kid as well. So, I

1620
01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:43.760
mean there are a lot of different ways to teach history.

1621
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:46.479
I mean, these are the great people in our society,

1622
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:48.359
and you bring them into different groups. There were notable

1623
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:51.199
farmers and craftsmen as well. Tiffany with his lamps, So

1624
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:53.279
you can do that. You can do the history of

1625
01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:55.800
the battles that formed the country, or you can do

1626
01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:58.920
what we do now, which is kind of the history

1627
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:03.159
of the small visual Howard Zinn kind of stuff where

1628
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:05.760
your your concern is how women were treated at a

1629
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:09.159
certain point in history, for example, And I suppose that's important,

1630
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:11.560
but I don't actually think that had as much to

1631
01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:16.840
do with forming America as you know, Cornwallace surrendering in Yorktown.

1632
01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:20.279
So we're replacing one narrative of the country, like these

1633
01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:24.079
great people did these things in this year, with another

1634
01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:26.319
kind of more systematic narrative.

1635
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:27.319
And I don't like it.

1636
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:29.680
Yeah, but that's that's that's micritique.

1637
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:33.279
Well, what I see happening here is that and you

1638
01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:36.159
and I've had this discussion. I think it's all gotten

1639
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:38.239
a little bit convoluted, as you said, and I agree

1640
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:42.000
with you that, And you know, history is being rewritten,

1641
01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:47.960
and it's put into categories and and political you know,

1642
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:51.239
preferences and that sort of thing. And but what it

1643
01:31:51.279 --> 01:31:55.760
all comes down to where we are today, because I said,

1644
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.720
you know, to me, it's become either your American or

1645
01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:03.680
anti American. But also along that vein, it's come down

1646
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:08.359
to either you're you're oppressed or you're an oppressor. And

1647
01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:12.479
when you start looking at things through that filter, my goodness,

1648
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:16.640
I mean you really you put yourself in a silo

1649
01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:23.520
and mentally retard yourself because your your perspective is greatly limited.

1650
01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:26.039
In my humble opinion, Yeah, no.

1651
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.000
I think I think that's correct. So the what we're

1652
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:31.600
talking about here is what's called critical theory in academia.

1653
01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:34.720
So they're different models of history. We just went through

1654
01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:38.279
a couple of them, like the ordinary man's history, people's history,

1655
01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:42.840
what you could call great man theory, which is kind

1656
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:45.159
of what I think that history is shaped by notable

1657
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:50.239
individuals Jesus Genghis Khan, like different things happen if those

1658
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:52.920
guys don't exist, and whatever you might think of that.

1659
01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:57.439
But that that's another model. The critical theoretical model is

1660
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:01.000
really popular on the left in the modern Western world,

1661
01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:04.319
especially America, and the idea, which you just phrased really

1662
01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:08.039
well is everyone falls into an oppressor or oppressed class.

1663
01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:11.880
So history isn't the history of great people doing things

1664
01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:15.960
or even small people living day to day. It's the

1665
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.600
history of how one group of people took power and

1666
01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.520
held everybody else down. So like in communism and Marxism

1667
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.960
without the full like fifteen minute speech, but it's the rich,

1668
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:29.159
like society looks fair but it's set up to benefit

1669
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:32.000
rich people. Every law is in fact made up by

1670
01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:35.520
the rich to steal from you property rights. And if

1671
01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:38.039
the rich weren't in charge and oppressing you, the rules

1672
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:41.840
would be totally different. Critical race theory, the rich guy

1673
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:46.159
is replaced by the white guy. Feminism, the rich guys

1674
01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:48.880
replaced by just the guy. Men are evil. Marriage was

1675
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:52.159
designed entirely by men, with no input from female nuns

1676
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:54.319
and so on, to give us as much sex as possible.

1677
01:33:54.520 --> 01:33:56.520
That's a natural feminist theory. And I notice you, like

1678
01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:59.239
every other married mamori line what and you start chuckling

1679
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:02.279
a little bit, like you contribute nothing and it's heaven

1680
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:04.520
for you what you gotta work at it. But I mean,

1681
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.600
like that's the idea of all these theories, and they're

1682
01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:11.880
actually this matters because they're downstream impacts of this. So

1683
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:16.840
like the the left wing position is really fascinating to

1684
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:19.800
me and to me almost an example of evil because

1685
01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:23.840
their argument would be, if you're failing, that's somebody else's fault.

1686
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:26.760
So when we see a criminal or a hobo, we

1687
01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:29.399
don't punish that guy for putting up a tent on

1688
01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:32.680
the street, go get a job. We instead look for

1689
01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:36.239
some hidden force that made him be a bump. And

1690
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:38.520
to me, that hidden force is just human nature or

1691
01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:41.520
drinking problem. There is nobody out there hiding in the

1692
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:44.520
woods oppressing you. But this is a very popular theory.

1693
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:47.680
Well, you know, you hit on something that's really key here.

1694
01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:52.159
And my hope and prayer for all humanity, particularly year

1695
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:56.479
in America, is that we would renew our minds with

1696
01:34:56.600 --> 01:35:01.159
this idea of self responsibility. I believe it's foundational to

1697
01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:07.439
this great American experiment that without self responsibility, you know,

1698
01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:11.159
the idea of America being great because of its people,

1699
01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:15.960
which Tolkeville had talked about, would be pretty much nonexistent.

1700
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:22.039
I think, yeah, there's a fascinating religious conversation about free will.

1701
01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:24.680
I think it's Calvinists who believe that everything is predestined

1702
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:26.039
and you can sit around with a coffee or a

1703
01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:28.520
beer and talk about this. But in practice, and yes,

1704
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:32.000
I don't agree with that either, But in practice, yeah,

1705
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:36.039
the idea of the free willed individual has to predominate.

1706
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:38.640
I mean, then this is Mert Walsh has a great

1707
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:41.920
rant about the insanity defense where he says, okay, so

1708
01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:44.760
if you're a normal person and you kill somebody, even

1709
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:47.319
if it's a cheating spouse, whatever, you're getting twenty plus

1710
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:50.399
years in jail because you killed somebody. It's sort of

1711
01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:53.479
crazy that you can say, not only am I a murderer,

1712
01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:55.960
I have a mental problem that will make me murder

1713
01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:58.840
over and over again, and they have to let you go.

1714
01:35:59.319 --> 01:36:05.159
So that's very non functional in practice. One quick line

1715
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:08.319
about this Ian Roe, the charter school executive who's a

1716
01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:12.359
buddy of mine, African American gentleman. His argument is that

1717
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.399
it's not the case that everyone starts from exactly the

1718
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:18.560
same starting line, that everyone has the same chances, but

1719
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:22.600
that in America and other good societies, everyone does have agency,

1720
01:36:23.079 --> 01:36:26.840
which means something like the ability to compete under fair conditions.

1721
01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:31.039
So like there's almost no one who's not physically disabled

1722
01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:34.359
or something who couldn't, you know, graduate from high school,

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01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:37.840
join that man's army, stand there for four years, get out,

1724
01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:42.119
go to state university, dental school, perfectly nice life. You're

1725
01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:44.640
a dentist, and no one hates a lot of people

1726
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.199
hate dentists, but you have a perfectly normal, middle upper

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01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:50.079
middle class life. No one can't do that, And I

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think it's fair to say that most good societies have

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01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:54.720
achieved that right, Like I grew up in a working

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01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:57.079
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And there's so many instances as well, will of people

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01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:04.720
that you would see and say, how did they do that?

1803
01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:08.439
I mean, I have a friend who was born with

1804
01:41:08.479 --> 01:41:12.159
no arms and noah lakes and you see him. I mean,

1805
01:41:12.439 --> 01:41:16.000
he is a world class speaker and author. He is

1806
01:41:16.079 --> 01:41:20.319
a life changer, and when you first see him, you're

1807
01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:25.199
taken aback at the oddity of his personage. But then

1808
01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:29.399
he starts to talk to you, and it's like it's

1809
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:31.960
like the movie Et. You know, the first time you

1810
01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:33.880
see Et, you kind of like freak out, and then

1811
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:38.039
you realize, wait, there's there's some there's some agency, there's

1812
01:41:38.079 --> 01:41:40.640
some substance about this individual or this character.

1813
01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:43.840
Right, Yeah, I mean I would say that if you're

1814
01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:47.880
in that situation, you can either pretty early on embrace

1815
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:51.800
mental training and your faith, or you're very likely to

1816
01:41:51.920 --> 01:41:55.279
join the alcoholism or suicide statistics. But the point is

1817
01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:59.520
that you can do that. There's nothing really stopping you in.

1818
01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:02.159
And I mean, I feel like I'm almost being a

1819
01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:04.159
little glow about that. Like would I be as successful

1820
01:42:04.199 --> 01:42:06.640
if I had no hands? You know, I mean for

1821
01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:10.279
anything from playing with a basketball to writing with a pen.

1822
01:42:10.600 --> 01:42:12.239
I don't know. I have a lot of admiration for

1823
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:17.079
that guy. But we do have a system where most

1824
01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:21.359
people can succeed because agency exists. And an example of

1825
01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:24.119
a system where you don't have that, you know, I

1826
01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:26.600
praised the Indians before, but one of the negative features

1827
01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:30.279
the society is the cast system. So in the West

1828
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:32.039
we used to have something very similar as well. Like

1829
01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:34.399
if your father was a blacksmith, you would be a

1830
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:37.319
blacksmith because you spent your entire life training in a smithy.

1831
01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:39.920
You didn't know how to ride a horse with a spear.

1832
01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:43.560
You had a different job. So today that's.

1833
01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:44.039
Not the case.

1834
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.279
If I grew tired of higher education, I could apply

1835
01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:52.680
to jobs at sales, trading, advertising, just writing for national

1836
01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:56.000
Review or something. We have a vastly open spectrum and

1837
01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:58.399
I think that's all you can ask for, like a

1838
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:01.760
lot of fair chances, and then if you fail, that's

1839
01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:04.800
your fault. But yeah, the popular idea today is that

1840
01:43:04.840 --> 01:43:08.760
it is someone else made that happen. Like I'm I'm

1841
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.920
technically black and native, so I have a five percent

1842
01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:15.600
higher average chance of failing. So there's always that temptation

1843
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:19.319
of when you do fail, blaming the system out there.

1844
01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:22.399
The reality, though, is you have eighteen more chances to succeed,

1845
01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:26.079
get up, hopefully kept some money in savings, you know,

1846
01:43:26.119 --> 01:43:26.520
and just go.

1847
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:29.079
On with your life. You know, it's interesting because here

1848
01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:32.279
in America we like to talk about fifty states all,

1849
01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:34.840
you know, being laboratory so to speak, that we can

1850
01:43:35.159 --> 01:43:39.800
observe and experience and you know, even vicariously but learn,

1851
01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:42.199
you know, the mistakes of other states and you know,

1852
01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.199
make some adjustments. But you know, now, because we're such

1853
01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:48.680
a global society, you know, we've got more than fifty. Yes,

1854
01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:50.239
we have our fifty states, but we got all these

1855
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.840
other countries that are doing gooseball things that are nonsensical,

1856
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:56.119
and you go, okay, note to self, let's not be

1857
01:43:56.199 --> 01:43:56.840
that stupid.

1858
01:43:58.279 --> 01:44:00.520
Yeah, I mean there's a lot there. Like I like

1859
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:04.199
the Laboratories of Democracy model. There's some criticism of it.

1860
01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:05.479
I mean, I think there are a lot of people

1861
01:44:05.479 --> 01:44:07.600
on the right, including a lot of Trump guys, that

1862
01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:10.239
would prefer kind of a top down not not a

1863
01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:13.359
king or an imperial president, but a strong leader that says, okay,

1864
01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:16.800
San Francisco, you can't do this. There's certain things you

1865
01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:19.520
can't teach in the schools anywhere. I like the idea

1866
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:22.359
you can try something and see whether it works or not. So,

1867
01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:25.119
I mean they're doing some interesting things with healthcare exchanges,

1868
01:44:25.159 --> 01:44:28.000
even religious healthcare in the South that are worth looking at.

1869
01:44:28.439 --> 01:44:30.439
You can also look at failures, right, I mean, so

1870
01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:36.399
I think it was Colorado that legalized marijuana, ap madrine, mushrooms,

1871
01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:40.239
a bunch of other stuff, Krayton, And I mean you

1872
01:44:40.359 --> 01:44:42.479
got to see whether, except for coc and harrow and

1873
01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:45.520
whether legalizing drugs works, and I would say from the

1874
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:49.520
data it doesn't. People seem to be high constantly. There's

1875
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:52.680
an odor of that public places, but more importantly, like

1876
01:44:52.760 --> 01:44:55.439
DUI's are up by a substantial about like more than

1877
01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:59.119
a quarter, and it's impossible to tell when someone's on

1878
01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:02.800
say LSD or the strong strand of marijuana as versus alcohol.

1879
01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:06.079
You know, you're not swaying around. You just seem like

1880
01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:09.279
a goofy person, but you're behind the wheel of an suv.

1881
01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:13.000
So I mean, yeah, there's there are positives and negatives,

1882
01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:15.680
But I like the idea that you can learn from

1883
01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:16.920
other regions of the country.

1884
01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:17.199
Yet.

1885
01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:19.039
Yeah, but I would hope that at the end of

1886
01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:21.359
the day you run it through the matrix to say,

1887
01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:24.359
am I more or less free as a result of

1888
01:45:24.359 --> 01:45:25.159
that experiment.

1889
01:45:26.760 --> 01:45:29.760
Yeah. Well, it also depends on what you mean by free.

1890
01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:32.319
Like a Coloraden If you talk to people in Colorado

1891
01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:35.359
or California, they will say, well, we're very free. We

1892
01:45:35.399 --> 01:45:38.680
can have gay pride parades in the street, you can

1893
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:42.640
you can be homeless here without being arrested. The major

1894
01:45:42.720 --> 01:45:45.680
drugs are legal, as they are in Amsterdam. You know,

1895
01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:48.680
we allow a great deal of public display. The problem

1896
01:45:48.720 --> 01:45:50.520
with that is that a lot of it starts and

1897
01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:52.560
this is where I am extremely conservative when it comes

1898
01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:55.119
to crime, immigration, so on. A lot of that starts

1899
01:45:55.159 --> 01:45:59.199
to impinge on practical freedom for real people. So if

1900
01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:02.039
you're a young can you really walk down a street

1901
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:05.239
that's full of yapping prostitutes, Like, is there a certain

1902
01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:09.039
level of crime where you're not free to take public transportation?

1903
01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:12.960
Did you see this debate on X the other day

1904
01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:16.359
about whether you would rather sit next to neo Nazis

1905
01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:17.920
or crackheads on the train?

1906
01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:18.720
No?

1907
01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:20.159
I hadn't seen that one.

1908
01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:24.960
Okay, like the Patriot Front, the card right March to

1909
01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:27.560
the guys of march and protest the government, there's a

1910
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.239
many note that they all look like FBI agents, might be,

1911
01:46:30.319 --> 01:46:33.640
might not be. But those guys got on the train

1912
01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:36.119
in DC because to travel in central DC need to

1913
01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:39.000
take the train. And there were all these other just

1914
01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:42.279
like DC types on the train, so arranging from African

1915
01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:46.239
American obvious drug addicts to looking politicians. So you got

1916
01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:48.720
to see this Monty Python style scene where you had

1917
01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:51.600
like the hard right boys their faces covered up, sitting

1918
01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:54.319
next to like BOMs with their stuff in bags. And

1919
01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:56.680
so people started talking about this and saying, well, which

1920
01:46:57.479 --> 01:46:59.439
of these would you most like to have living next

1921
01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:01.359
to you? And my response to just this is why

1922
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:04.479
I drive like looking at this picture, this is what

1923
01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:06.840
I would do is go to the dealership. Right, sure,

1924
01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:09.479
my girl stuffs up to date, So I do think

1925
01:47:09.479 --> 01:47:12.600
though banter aside, like if if you have issues like

1926
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:15.520
that regularly, if they're homeless individuals living on the train,

1927
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:18.920
you in fact have less freedom, so in the less life.

1928
01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:21.920
But I think there's a line between freedom and license.

1929
01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:24.399
I think it was a Quitus that said that. So

1930
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freedom is the ability to do those things you need

1931
01:47:28.399 --> 01:47:30.720
to do, or those things that will let you pursue

1932
01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:34.399
a positive goal. License is the ability to do anything.

1933
01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:37.560
So I don't actually know if I'm more free if

1934
01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:40.359
I'm allowed to use heroin. I'm an aggressive former athlete,

1935
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:42.960
I'm an addictive personality. Well it probably happens is that

1936
01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:45.239
I've become booked on heroin, and then I have no

1937
01:47:45.319 --> 01:47:48.319
freedom at all. So the state can intervene and say, well,

1938
01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:51.600
we understand that this actually destroys lives, we're gonna ban

1939
01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:54.960
these drugs. We're gonna ban I would I think we

1940
01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:57.439
should return to a ban on prostitution. Looking at OnlyFans

1941
01:47:57.520 --> 01:48:00.239
tax revenue last year, we're gonna take these things. We're

1942
01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:03.159
going to move them off the table. Gambling would be

1943
01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:08.159
another one. DraftKings. So where where that balance lies is

1944
01:48:08.159 --> 01:48:10.359
where the work of the government has to be done.

1945
01:48:10.399 --> 01:48:14.039
How do you maximize, as you said, actual freedom, actual

1946
01:48:14.119 --> 01:48:17.920
positive outcomes for adults, and even as a professional political analyst,

1947
01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:19.359
that's surprisingly difficult.

1948
01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:22.399
Yeah, and I can see that it is. But I

1949
01:48:22.439 --> 01:48:26.640
also I think I lean more with a quitness because

1950
01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:31.199
I look at the individual. I know I want individual freedom.

1951
01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:35.439
If that is being promoted and protected, then I think

1952
01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:40.399
these other ancillary influences can be dealt with just by

1953
01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:44.319
a common sense because we'd say, no, I don't want

1954
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:47.880
to go through a red light because I'll put myself

1955
01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:50.199
if I disobey a red light. I'm going to put

1956
01:48:50.239 --> 01:48:54.720
myself in danger, but I could hurt somebody else, right, Yeah, well.

1957
01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:57.039
I think that's a good that's a good example of

1958
01:48:57.079 --> 01:48:59.720
what we're talking about. I mean, so obviously no one

1959
01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:02.960
has the freedom to drive exactly as they see fit.

1960
01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:05.960
I mean, I already drive pretty fast, but I'd probably

1961
01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:09.239
go one hundred ten miles an hour on average if

1962
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:12.680
I could do that without cops harassing me. I don't

1963
01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:15.279
think the state would view that is good. I actually

1964
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:17.399
am a good driver, but a lot of other youngish

1965
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:20.960
males aren't. You'd see reps by the side, we got.

1966
01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:24.359
We got older people married to politicians like Paul Pelosi.

1967
01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:27.640
He's a terrible driver. He and Tiger Woods they need

1968
01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:32.479
drivers for them. I think, yeah, well.

1969
01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:33.960
I mean that that is an illustration of if you're

1970
01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:35.399
gonna go to your club and you're gonna have five

1971
01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:37.600
drinks and you have Tiger Woods type of money. I mean,

1972
01:49:37.720 --> 01:49:40.479
like you someone a buddy will have the day of

1973
01:49:40.479 --> 01:49:44.279
his life. Your driver. I mean, you're caddy. Someone can

1974
01:49:44.359 --> 01:49:45.920
take you home. You don't need to get in the

1975
01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:48.960
range rover and start swerving around the road. I mean,

1976
01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:50.840
I saw that video and it's just like, my god, man,

1977
01:49:50.840 --> 01:49:55.239
what are you doing? But yeah, there are obvious and

1978
01:49:55.279 --> 01:49:57.319
I think we both kind of worked around this point.

1979
01:49:57.319 --> 01:49:59.560
They are obvious restrictions and we placed on freedom. You

1980
01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:02.800
try to maximize freedom under those. But I will say

1981
01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:07.079
that whenever people advocate for something that's probably going to

1982
01:50:07.119 --> 01:50:10.520
produce a negative outcome, Like I have some OnlyFans girls

1983
01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:13.000
quote unuote that follow me on Twitter and debate feminism

1984
01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:15.079
and so on, and if you actually ask them like

1985
01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:16.520
do you think you should be able to do some

1986
01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:19.600
of this, They'll probably say, well, I'm exercising my free will.

1987
01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:23.000
It doesn't matter whether you like it. I'm being me.

1988
01:50:23.279 --> 01:50:26.760
I'm doing what I want. And I think you can say,

1989
01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:28.880
well if I if I think you're going to burn

1990
01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:31.079
out of this business in four years and cost society

1991
01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:32.680
a lot of money while you do it and recover

1992
01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:36.399
from it, I might vote for a restraint on that.

1993
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:38.319
And that's where we go to the voting booth and

1994
01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:40.520
say this, should you be able to do this? And

1995
01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:42.920
even even like if you buy beer on Sunday, like

1996
01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:45.520
spend one day sober with the family, you know, or

1997
01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:48.439
buy beer on Saturday, show your IQ, you know, those

1998
01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:53.640
are logical restrictions within society. There's always a tension between

1999
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:56.920
the very puritanical that want to restrict everything betting on

2000
01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.520
poker in your house and then the people that want

2001
01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:04.279
to legaliz everything imaginable. And I don't know if there's

2002
01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:06.720
again the golden mean is probably the best way to

2003
01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:09.319
look at that. The best the best society is somewhere

2004
01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:10.119
in the middle.

2005
01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:13.800
Right, And this is why we need to have conversations

2006
01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:16.199
and be able to talk with one another so that

2007
01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:20.119
we can uh, you know, debate these issues and work

2008
01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:23.319
through them. To me, that's the that's the sign of

2009
01:51:23.319 --> 01:51:28.319
a healthy society that can deal with these dynamic tensions

2010
01:51:28.359 --> 01:51:31.199
in a way to where hey, look at we're doing

2011
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:33.840
less harm. I mean we're gonna we're gonna do harm anyway.

2012
01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:37.000
I mean we're just within our own natural humanity. We're

2013
01:51:37.039 --> 01:51:40.760
such knuckleheads that were nobody's perfect here, but we want

2014
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:42.760
to mitigate as much harm as possible.

2015
01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:46.520
I would say, yeah, I think that's right. I mean,

2016
01:51:47.399 --> 01:51:51.479
so I used to refer to this as the greatest

2017
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:55.159
short term and long term quantum of total happiness that

2018
01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:57.680
you can get to. That that's the goal of life,

2019
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:00.520
and that includes a lot of tough situation like would

2020
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.000
you be willing to sacrifice your life to protect a

2021
01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:06.399
wife and two kids, for example? Yes, But I mean

2022
01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:09.840
the goal is the maximum amount of happiness. Happiness is

2023
01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:14.880
the reason you do other things. Almost always, the reason

2024
01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:18.319
you have a drink or take a walk or cut

2025
01:52:18.359 --> 01:52:19.960
off an argument with your wife is that you think

2026
01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:22.479
the result will be more positive than the absence of

2027
01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:25.119
the result. So if we say that's the goal, what

2028
01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:28.199
is the thing that most gets you there? And obviously

2029
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:30.199
the classic example of this is just greatest good for

2030
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:33.760
the greatest number. And I don't think we've ever found

2031
01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:37.239
a better purpose for society. The problem is that you know,

2032
01:52:37.279 --> 01:52:40.000
while we're quoting the famous people, you know, Adam Smith

2033
01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:41.640
and a quietness and so I mean this is this

2034
01:52:41.680 --> 01:52:45.199
is Thomas soul like. There are no solutions, they're only

2035
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:48.720
trade offs. So of course, you want to feed everyone enough.

2036
01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:51.039
You want to make jobs available, have some very minimum

2037
01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:53.439
baseline welfare. You want to feed everyone enough that no

2038
01:52:53.520 --> 01:52:56.119
one starves. But once you do that, you're gonna have

2039
01:52:56.159 --> 01:52:58.880
a problem with obesity. If everyone can eat mostly as

2040
01:52:58.960 --> 01:53:02.159
much as they want, it's better, it's improved. But now

2041
01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:03.960
what do you do about the problem of everyone being

2042
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:06.399
fat and out of shape, including me often? You know,

2043
01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:10.399
so you have to Society has to keep moving to

2044
01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:11.760
adjust to new threats.

2045
01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:15.079
Well. And part of the reason you know that we're

2046
01:53:15.079 --> 01:53:18.479
designed in a way to get hungry, you know, to

2047
01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:22.760
experience hunger, is so that we'll do something about it. Again,

2048
01:53:22.960 --> 01:53:27.560
in terms of self responsibility, that we will not count

2049
01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:30.279
on somebody else giving us a fish, but that we

2050
01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:33.039
ourselves will go out and fish to feed ourselves and

2051
01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:33.840
our families.

2052
01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:35.079
Yeah.

2053
01:53:35.119 --> 01:53:38.680
Absolutely, But that that's another basic point that one of

2054
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:42.199
the issues with society is that humans haven't changed much

2055
01:53:42.239 --> 01:53:45.199
since we were, you know, out there killing Neanderthals. I

2056
01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:47.279
mean like, how do you know when you need food?

2057
01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:50.239
Well because you feel hunger in your stomach? How do

2058
01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:52.279
you know when you're interested in some of the opposite sex.

2059
01:53:52.279 --> 01:53:55.840
They're quite visceral physical reactions, you know. Do we feel

2060
01:53:55.840 --> 01:53:57.760
anger at about the same level that we ever did

2061
01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:00.800
according to a recent English study, I mean, Americans are

2062
01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:02.439
still pretty good with our arms or some of the

2063
01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:04.960
more aggressive people on the planet. So how do you

2064
01:54:05.119 --> 01:54:10.239
take these creatures that developed should be in a particular

2065
01:54:10.279 --> 01:54:13.119
set of situations, and for example the ancient Middle East?

2066
01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:17.079
There you're in a community of thousand, everyone's related to

2067
01:54:17.079 --> 01:54:18.800
one another. How do you take those people and put

2068
01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:22.319
them in Houston, Texas and make things work? And that's

2069
01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:25.199
the question of society. And there are questions that go

2070
01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:28.319
along with that, like redistribution. You and I might kind

2071
01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:31.439
of gripe about that as reasonably well off conservative guys,

2072
01:54:31.479 --> 01:54:34.359
But every society has the question of how much do

2073
01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:36.840
you take from the producers and give to the takers?

2074
01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:39.840
And there's a tendency to say, well nothing, But I

2075
01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:43.960
mean the taker group would included children, disabled, veterans, people

2076
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:46.039
you hate to describe even in that fashion. So you

2077
01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:47.920
do have to make a decision I mean the biblical

2078
01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:52.640
typing ten percent, generally the interpretation. You know, the first taxes,

2079
01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:54.760
and you know, if you look at England or something

2080
01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:57.279
or along the same level. We're a bit beyond that now,

2081
01:54:57.680 --> 01:54:59.840
but that's the first question of society and the second

2082
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:00.760
keeping the peace.

2083
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:04.079
Well, we'll leave it there for now. Good fun as always,

2084
01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:07.800
Doctor Wilfrid Riley, Professor of Political Science at Kentucky State University.

2085
01:55:07.800 --> 01:55:10.560
He is the author of two great books, Taboo, Ten

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Facts You Can Talk About and Lie's my Liberal teacher

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Todd Me. Thank you, will take care, Thank you.

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