May 26, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 05 26 26

The Bill Martinez Show 05 26 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 05 26 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah?

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Do it? Ill Martinez Live a program about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning America.

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Greg.

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Glad you join us. I'm Bill Martinez. Six minutes wrapped

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in the top of the hour, Doctor George Barna is

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back with us. Finally he's been running as hard as

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he can to stay away from it. I don't blame you.

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I mean, actually the true story is he buys me

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lunch in California and then I stand him up on

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the following weekend. I confess I throw myself on the

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mercy of the court. Doctor George, please forgive me. Never

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will it ever happen again?

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Yeah, I've heard that before. Yeah, throw clink forget it right, exactly?

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Forget it.

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Well, I'll tell you. As spiritual grows, I should say

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a speculation grows about a spiritual awakening amongst young Americans

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following the September twenty twenty five assassination of our friend

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Charlie Kirk. New research from you and the Cultural Research

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Center at Arizona Christian University is finding that gen Z

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is moving and two opposite spiritual directions at the same time.

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What's going on here, George.

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Well, you know, I mean people often change in this manner.

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There's some good things that happen in their life, there's some,

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you know, not so good things that they move toward,

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and so that's what we're seeing with this particular generation.

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First of all, we got to remember that when we

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talk about all these changes that are taking place in

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the beliefs and behaviors of that group, every behavior or

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belief change that we're talking about isn't experienced by every

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person in that generation. Most of them experience one or

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two of these, not the whole shooting range. So we've

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got to keep that in mind. But then also when

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we look at the big picture, we stand back and say, Okay,

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is this a generation that's in the beginning stages of revival?

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I don't think so. It certainly doesn't look that way.

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Now.

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There's some good things that are going on, but as

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I mentioned, there's some counterbalancing things too, So to me,

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it kind of looks like business as usual.

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We've seen no.

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Change in the worldview of that particular generation over the

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last year or two, and so they remain the lowest

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of all the generations in terms of having a biblical worldview.

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But in defense of that group, you've got to recognize

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also that it took them years to develop an aceral view,

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and so if they're going to change it, that's going

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to take years as well.

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So maybe we just need to be more patient.

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Well exactly. Well, you know, I keep reminding people, we're

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of the microwave generation. We stand in front of a

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microwave and yell her rap, you know. And of course

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I think in this case, for all the right reasons,

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we want to think optimistically. You know, that God is moving.

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We see responses, you know, you've earned. Talk about this,

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I say, you know, evidence of you know, bonfires, I say,

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bonfires of revival maybe here and there, you know kind

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of thing. But they're just not It doesn't seem to

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be that one catalytic event that brings them all together.

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And as you said, and rightfully so. And that's what

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I remind people as well, is that, you know, especially

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the last five years of their educational life, they've been

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indoctrinated to believe something that you know that a lot

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of people in mainstream America are trying to understand, you know,

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what's going on with our kids? What happened to our kids?

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Right.

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Yeah, And you know, you talk about a catalytic event,

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and so a lot of people were saying, oh, the

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murder of Charlie Kirk would be that, right, because immediately

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after that we heard all these reports about, oh, Bible

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sales are breaking records and a lot more people are

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flocking back to church. So we actually did a piece

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of research and that's in this report here where we

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look at four months before Charlie was murdered and four

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months after he was murdered, what happened. And with this

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generation gen Z in particular, what we see is, yeah,

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there were some changes. On balance, they've actually moved farther

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away from Christianity than.

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Closer to it.

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So I don't think we can say that that was

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probably the catalytic event. We did see that church attendance

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went up. We saw that more of them were willing

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to call themselves Christian. We saw that more of them said, well,

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I'd be willing to read the Bible, and they would

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do it occasionally, but there wasn't a concerted effort. There

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wasn't a consistent effort to do that. And then with

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their beliefs, and beliefs are important because you do what

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you believe. So you've got beliefs preceding behavior. When we

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look at the changes in belief, what we see is

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that they've moved closer to socialism than capitalism. They've moved

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farther away from believing absolute moral truth exists. They've moved

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more towards saying that they believe Jesus Christ's and while

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he was on earth. You know, they've moved more towards

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saying that you can earn your way into heaven. So

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you know, you look at those things, you say, yeah,

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that doesn't sound.

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Like revival to me, right, exactly. Well, and Corer, you

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know to all that you've been doing in your research

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is biblical worldview. And as you said, it's stuck at

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one percent. I mean when I saw that number, George,

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I was surprised. I thought, Oh, come on, give me

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a tick at least, you know.

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Right, Yeah, I mean that's what we were looking for.

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It's like, come on, show some positive movement. The president

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of Arizona Christian you know, I work closely with him.

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He said, George, before you retire, before you leave, we

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want to make sure that you see some positive growth

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in all of this, you know. So I guess I'm

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going to be there a bit longer because you know

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we're not seeing it yet.

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Well but just what, Well, when you get to heaven,

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they'll be positive growth. Absolutely, they'll be rockets Reglar, right, Yeah,

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you know.

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The other the reality is once we get to have

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and we're not going to care about all this, We're

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going to be focused on God and Jesus. And you know,

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it's like, hallelujah, I've made it. I'm here, Let me

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enjoy it, let me glorify you. This is a vacation.

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Yeah, exactly, because like I said, there's you know, when

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you get to heaven, there's no fussing or fighting. You

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are in the midst of truth, right, You're surrounding your

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bait and truth. It's like, oh my goodness, you know, well,

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how did I miss this?

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You know?

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And all those things that are attached to our humanness

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will fade away, thank God, because of God's glory. And

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can't wait, right because all this fussing that we do

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right now, what a waste of time and energy and

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humanity and a degradation of God's Creation's that's what makes

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me sad is I see these kids today that they're

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wasting precious time, George.

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Well, it's true now, Bill.

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Last night I turned in the final manuscript for my

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next book, and it looks at what we call those

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seven cornerstones of the Biblical worldview, kind of breaks them

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down into talk about what can you do to really

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embrace this. And one of the things that struck me

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after going through the entire manuscript re editing it is,

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you know, we put so much energy into so many

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things that don't matter at all, and if we just

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realize that the only reason we're here is to no

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love and serve God with all our heart, mind, strength,

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and soul every moment of every day. And if we

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simply did that, and I'm not trying to be naive,

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I know they're going to.

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Be the troubles of the world. We're in a spiritual war.

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I get all that, But sometimes we lose sight of

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the big picture, which is that ultimately we were.

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Made by God for Him.

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Ultimately, if we confess our sins repent except Christ as

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our savior, we're going to return to Him and enjoy

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Him and that's all that's going to matter. So all

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this other stuff that's driving us nuts every day, right,

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We're not going to Remember, we're not going to care

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about and it's not going to matter. So let's get

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a jump on it and say, hey, you know what,

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let me figure out it doesn't matter now and just

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start focusing on the glory of God and doing things

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that will bring honor and pleasure to Him and He's

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going to bless me for that, and everybody's going to

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be happy.

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Well exactly, And George, the thing is is that even

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on an individual basis, it is the peace of God

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that surpasses all understanding that you now you get the

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key and you get to open the lock to God's

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peace when you do that, right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And so it's really an issue of priorities. What matters

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most to me? I think sometimes when I get all

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wound up in my daily travails, the issue is that

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I have prioritized the things that seem important in this

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life rather than prioritizing the things that are important to God.

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And so if I'm really going to be a disciple

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of Jesus, I need to have the mind of Christ

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and I need to do everything that pursues and strengthens

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that Jesus didn't get caught up and all that stuff,

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you know, he went along every day, he dealt with

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the day as it came to him. But somehow he

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maintained that focus on heavenly and internal things. And that's

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what each of us who's trying to be a disciple

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of Jesus needs to keep in mind. I've got to

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have that same focus that Jesus had. He told us

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it's possible to do. He told us it's not easy

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to do. We know that Satan doesn't want us to

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do it, so we're going to make our choices appropriately.

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Exactly, got to go to quick break. More from doctor

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George after this.

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And we're back with you Bill Martinez with doctor George Varna. Yes,

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the one and only and even infamous, some say, and

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I second that emotion. He's the director of research at

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Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center, the author of Raising

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Spiritual Champions, and we're talking about his latest installment, gen

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Z moving toward faith and away from it at the

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same time. It's interesting, you know, and I think it's

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endemic of the human experience. You get that push pull

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kind of dynamic going on. By the way, this is

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the third report in the twenty twenty six America's Worldview Inventory,

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which is I guess going to lead to your new

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book soon to be coming out. You know that again

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is going to remind us of all these things that

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you've learned. I mean, George, this has been you know,

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decades of work in research and in fact, I was

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just bragging about you to a friend this morning. You know,

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he said, what are you going to do? I go, well,

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I got an interview with doctor George Barnet, and I go.

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He's just become such a dear friend and he's helped

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me so much because when I came out of Bible College,

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you know, the idea of a biblical worldview, he was

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the only one that was talking about it, and it

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just it just really wrung with me. It just it's

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just so connected in my heart. And it also was

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confirmed when God said, hey, I want you to talk

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about that. I want you to talk about my truth

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and I want you to talk about biblical worldview. And

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look what happens. He puts us two knuckleheads together and

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we've been joining at the hip ever since. And you know,

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and we've and we almost made it to the FBI's

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you know, most wanted.

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Well, you know, Heaven's getting a knucklehead sandwich today, I'll

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tell you that.

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But you know it's.

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Interesting, yeah, because when I think back about biblical worldview,

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you say I was the only one talking about Well,

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when I came to christ after a couple of years

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working in the research industry, I was hired by Christian

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Ministry to do research for them, and so I built

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up their department doing that and marketing and whatnot. And

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when I came into the organization, they had meetings with

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me for a couple of weeks and they pretty quickly

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realized this guy doesn't know anything, and so they sent

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me back.

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To Washington, d C.

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This was back in nineteen eighty two, I mean eons ago,

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and I didn't know anybody in the Christian world because

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I was a new Christian, didn't know the lingo, didn't

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know squat, and so I said, well, I guess I

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should go to the keynote sessions. Well, the keynote sessions

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were Chuck Colson, Charles Stanley, and Francis Schaeffer. It's like,

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you know, the pantheon of living worldview Biblical worldview thinkers,

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and they all talked about biblical worldview, which is a

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phrase I'd never even heard, and so I was just

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stunned and overwhelmed by what they did. And the last

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session was doctor Schaeffer's session, and on the way out,

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his publisher, Crossway Books, gave everybody a free copy of

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his new book at that time, called a Christian Manifesto.

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And I stayed up till two or.

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Three that morning reading that whole book, and then woke

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up the next morning started rereading it because I didn't

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understand half of it, you know, But I mean that

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was for me what got me on that trail. So

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you know, we always stand on the shoulder of giants

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who came before us, as they did as well, you know.

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So if I have the ability to open anybody's eyes

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and ears and heart to this notion of biblical worldview,

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which simply means he got to think like Jesus so

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that you can live like Jesus, which is what being

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a disciple is. And that's what we're called to do

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while we're on earth. So I mean, it's one big

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circle that we're trying to move people in too. But yeah,

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I mean, what a what a great introduction I had

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to the whole process. And I hope people get to

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read their works as well, because there's so seminole. Chuck

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Colson wrote great books about worldview. Francis Schaeffer wrote eye opening,

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you know, mind blowing stuff about worldview. And I'm like

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a pop worldview guy, you know, I take it and

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bring it down to the what was branches because that's

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all I can understand. But you know, I mean, we've

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all got to get in the entry somehow and then

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start making progress down that pathway to thinking like Jesus.

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Well, as you said, thinking and being like Jesus, and

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as you were saying earlier to me, the thing that

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consistently sticks out is that the first thing Jesus did,

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it's always first things, right, you got it starts with

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first things. What was the first thing that Jesus did?

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Yeah, for sure, I mean you know he starts, well,

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first the first thing he did. I'm not sure what

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you were going to say. What I would say is,

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once he got into ministry, he started building relationships, right,

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you know, because if you're going to make disciples, they've

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got to know you. They've got to trust you, they've

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got to spend time with you. That's what relationships are about,

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you know. And then he started engaging in showing them

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a different lifestyle. Now they're intrigued, and so then they

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start asking questions. Then you have the conversations and he

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has the opportunity to start teaching them. He didn't just

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jump in and say all right, here's truth. No, I mean,

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there was a lot of foundation that he laid before

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he got into that.

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What I was going to say was that he got

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away and prayed.

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Firstly before he started into ministry. Yeah. Absolutely, he had

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to have his foundation right.

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Right, and his source was the Father. You know, the

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Father is the source, the source of truth and the

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one who gives us wisdom, that gives it to us,

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you know, without any sense of rejection and compromise. You know,

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if we ask for it, he'll give it to us.

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But you see, we're not asking. And I think that's

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one of the other challenges that we have. We you know,

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in the process of building a relationship not only as

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you say, horizontally, but we have to build the relationship

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vertically with God. And when you as you do, then

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you get to ask some of these questions that probably

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here to before you thought, oh my God, if I

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asked that question, he's going to kill me.

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You know, absolutely, you know.

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And one of the things that I think we learn

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over the course of time and experience is that, you know,

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we we think we're pretty together, we're pretty good, you know,

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we're doing fine. But with time and experience with God

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and in His word, what you come to see is

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that I have no power. Accept that which God gives me.

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I have no wisdom, accept that which God gives me.

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And what he gives me he didn't give to me

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for me. He gave it to me so I could

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be a blessing to other people. And principle, So yeah,

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I mean, the deeper we get into this, and you

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don't have to go too deep to realize those things.

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But the deeper and deeper you go, the more you realize, Yeah,

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it's not about me. I'm just a conduit. I'm a

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vessel that God wants to use to impact the lives

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of other people, just like other people allowed him to

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use them so that I could come to him. So

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that's how the family of God grows.

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Right, George, George, I got to tell you. There were

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several surprises in this latest report. One of them that

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got my attention right away was this five point increase

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in weekly church attendance since May of twenty twenty five,

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alongside an eighteen point increase in the belief that Jesus

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Christ sinned while on earth. Who told them that.

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Well, I'm not sure they're actually listening, or maybe they're

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going to the wrong places. But I mean, there's this

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whole thing where people walk into the church with a

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full slate of religious beliefs. It's not like they're coming

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in in a vacuum or as a blank slate. That

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slate has already been written all over. And so if

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they come to church, often what happens, we found is

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they're looking for confirmation for what they already believed. And

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if they don't hear anything about what they already believed,

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they just keep on believing what they were believing, right,

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And so they walk into the church with these kinds

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of beliefs. You know, at the same time that there

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was an eighteen point increase in thinking Jesus and there

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was an eighteen point increase in thinking there's no such

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thing as absolute moral truth. You know, a fifteen point

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increase in thinking I have to earn my way into

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heaven if it exists and if I'm going to go there.

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So there's a lot of garbage that people walk into

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the church believing and thinking that the guy up front

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behind the podium is magically going to attack and persuade

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these people to think differently is not a good probability.

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And that's why each of us building relationships with these

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people coming in is so critical because we can talk

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to them about what they believe, find it out, and

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dig deeper into it with them, and then we have

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the opportunity to bring the change into their belief system

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that they so desperately need.

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Well, Doctor George, as we wrap things up on to

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remind everybody, he's the director of research at Arizona Christian

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Universities Cultural Research Center, author of Brazing Spiritual Champions, new book.

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When's the new book coming out.

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Middle to end of June. It's called how to Think

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Like Jesus.

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Wow, I love it. I cannot wait. Well again, as

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we wrap things up from this research, what's the key

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takeaway that you want our audience to get.

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Don't even worry about whether or not revivals happening. Want

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to be part of revival happening in America. And in

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order to do that, don't look for it elsewhere and

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applaud it as it goes on. You be part of

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that revival, impetus that needs to have feet on the

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ground here in America. Find the people in your circle

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who don't know Jesus, show them Jesus by how you live,

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and then explain Jesus to them through your conversations.

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I love that.

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Go be the revival. What a call. It's just like

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Jesus as he was leaving Earth. He gave us a

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clear commandment. George Barnet, He's not leaving earth, but he

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tells us clearly, go be the revival. Thank you, Thanks

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Well we're back with you, Bill Martinez here along with

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doctor John Zimeric. Hey, doctor John, how are we doing.

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I'm doing wild, Bill, It's been it's been a really

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eventful week.

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Well, I know a lot going on, and we want

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to talk about your old boss, Reverend James Robins. I'm

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I'm very sad to hear of his passing, and I

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know he meant so much to you.

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He passed away over the this past weekend. Did did

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you ever meet him?

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You know, I did not, but I believe we had

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a couple of occasions to interact. I didn't know him

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certainly as well as you did, but I only heard

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and my interaction with him was, uh, was such that

546
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was very genuine, and I've only heard great things about him.

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He was in his eighties. I don't know his exact age.

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James was founder of Life Outreach International, which sponsored the

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Stream where I still work. For ten years, it was

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a news and opinion website. Now it's a TV portal

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for Christian programming. We're sort of becoming the Hulu for

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Christian content, and I hope people will go check out

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stream dot org or look for it on their Samsung

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or Android stores. But James was a very special man

555
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and came from a really difficult family background. He was

556
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an unwanted child of rape and can't had a really

557
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tough childhood, felt unwanted. He found Christian faith in high

558
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school and became a high school evangelists and by the

559
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time he was like eighteen or nineteen, he was filling

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stadiums preaching getting people who be born again. They called

561
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him the teenage Billy Graham, and indeed he became friends

562
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with Billy Graham, and Billy Graham mentored him, and he

563
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ended up mentoring one of Billy Graham's sons. And he

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was packing stadiums, rolling in the people, people having conversions.

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And then he decided to step away and he did

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a television ministry. He started TV show Life Today, which

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is still running but now sadly without him. That preached

568
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the gospel and also raised funds from wonderful ministries that

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Life Outreach does around the world, bringing shoes to kids

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who don't have shoes, drilling wells in Africa where the

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Christians can't get water because the Muslims control the water supply,

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bringing Bibles to Asia, doing life saving surgeries. Anyway, it's

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a wonderful ministry. I'm really happy to still be associated

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with it. He passed away after a rather brief and

575
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indeterminate illness. It's just like God was just decided to

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call him home. But he had a really big role

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in our country's politics too. He he was the man

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who suggested that the National Religious Broadcasters in nineteen eighty

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invite Ronald Reagan to speak. At the time, they were

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still sort of reluctantly supporting President Jimmy Carter because he

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was a Baptist Sunday school teacher who talked about being

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born again, but he was running the country into the ground.

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Here was this divorced actor from California. Were the evangelicals

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of the South going to rally behind this Hollywood figure

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with his second wife or were they going to stick

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with the Bible quoting pious catastrophe that was Jimmy Carter.

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So James suggested to Jerry Folwell and the other members

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of the Christian Riot, and he was a key member

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of that, that they invite Reagan, and Reagan gave a

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famous speech where he said, I know you can't endorse me,

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but I endorse you.

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Wow.

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And that was the beginning of the realignment of the

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South towards same conservative politics that actually fit with the

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Christian faith, which the Democratic Party had turned against already

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by nineteen eighty and James was one of the first

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evangelicals to get in a room with Donald Trump and

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explain to him how he needed to get right on

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the abortion issue, needed to focus on the social issues,

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on religious liberty, on protecting the freedom that God gives us,

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the rights that come from God, not from the government.

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And in Trump's first term, he was a major influencer,

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be on the phone with him all the time. And

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I think a lot of the things you're seeing with

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the Trump administration, looking at the weaponization of government, the

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attacks on the anti Christian bias, the Religious Liberty Advisory Panel,

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James was in the background behind a lot of that.

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I'm glad now he's with God being a reward for

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all the passionate, sincere hard work he did over the decades,

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and we're all still processing it and mourning it over

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the ministry, well.

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I can only imagine, you know, what a loss. And John,

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you know, it's so valuable that you're here to give testimony,

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you know, to his life because a lot of people,

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you know, and this is the thing with the men

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of God like this, is that they're not necessarily looking

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for the spotlight, right, you're here to serve, and they

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do so quietly, humbly, walking with their God.

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That's right.

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And James really had a heart for the broken, for

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the loss, for the confused, all of that without surrendering

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the standard, the biblical standard that we're all called to,

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the standard of holiness and that's something it's hard to

624
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find in church. In churches, you either get fire and

625
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.519
brimstone and upholding the standard, but they're goading you to despair,

626
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:07.640
or you get oh, everybody's welcome, we're gonna fly a

627
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:12.440
rainbow flag and we're going to have a transgender kombucha

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00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:20.280
party after the service. That balance between justice and mercy,

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between truth and forgiveness is it's really it's what makes

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It's what made the church spread from a small group

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of small group of scared fishermen in Palestine to create

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Western civilization and make possible the United States of America.

633
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You see, and that that example, that standard remains with

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us today. The standard that Jesus reinforced when he came

635
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is that you know, there doesn't need to be a compromise.

636
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Humanity wants to compromise, but God does not compromise, and

637
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you can be true to God and yourself and all

638
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.400
more joyful as a result of it.

639
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That's the weird thing is that the liberal Christians who

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are all about compromise when it comes to the issues

641
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:14.360
that they consider important, they are puritans. They are witch burners,

642
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.039
they are heretic hunters. You listen to Russell Moore and

643
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David French and people like that. Talk about Donald Trump

644
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and his supporters, they sound like the witch burners in

645
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Nathaniel Hawthorne's A Scarlet Letter. See that puritan impulse has

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two sides, and the dark side of it hangs over

647
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even once you've lost faith in the Bible, once you

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no longer take the Bible as your standard, something else

649
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.159
will fill that vacuum. And what bills it is The

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message of the world is the ideology that's popular at

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Harvard and Google and the World Economic Forum and the

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European Union and the United Nations. It is asive and aggressive, intolerant,

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religon and it's post Christianity. You might call it the

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anti anti Christianity or antichrist And that is what governs

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the secular world, and the Church is constantly swimming upstream

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against it. And as we know from Salmon, if you

657
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don't swim upstream, you just float downstream like a corpse.

658
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Right exactly. You're carried by the inertia of the outside environment,

659
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all because because you question whether or not God said

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what he said and meant what he said right right right,

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I mean, you go back to I always go back

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to the garden. You know, you go back to the

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beginning and you see the fall of man and nothing new.

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I mean, it's it's what's prevalent today. It's just like

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you said, you either are for Christ or you are

666
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against Christ, and there's no gray area about it. You

667
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may think somehow that God's going to grade on the curve,

668
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but you know, God's the same yesterday, today, and forever,

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and there's no curve.

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And we see that disregarding what he showed us, what

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he shows us even through our own hearts, the natural

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law that's written on our hearts. Once you throw that

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natural law out, then the only criterion is who's in power?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, who's the captain of your ship? And

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God says in the Book of Romans that he will

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eventually just allow you to go ahead and make your

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own choices. You want to be the captain of your ship?

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Hey have had it. Here's the steering.

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Will good luck, and there's the iceberg.

680
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Well, you know, in spite of that, in spite of

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them seeing the iceberg, they will still you know, had

682
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of captain their ship right straight into the iceberg.

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They're confident they can sail through it. Right, We're unsinkable.

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We can go against human nature, we can go against

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the Constitution, the Declaration, Western tradition, the truths of science, mathematics,

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and logic. Nope, nope, I have to follow my dream.

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I did it my way right exactly. This is what

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happens when you abandon the truth and continue to embrace

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the lies. And sometimes I wonder, John, just people are

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just so stubborn about holding on to the lie that

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they just cannot submit no matter what. Anyway, let's go

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Hey, welcome back, Phil Martinez here with the author and

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editor of Christian Nation, which is part of the Emerald

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Robinson Substack, and also he's the author of No Second Amendment,

769
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No First, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism, and many

770
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other books. John is some things to talk about. You know,

771
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.880
what's happening right now in the primaries really critical. I

772
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think there's some good indicators here. But before we do this,

773
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I mean, this interview is going to air on Memorial Day.

774
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And to me, you know, when I look at it,

775
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.079
being you know, a marine and having a connection of

776
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:03.079
family connection in the military, I've always held in high

777
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.559
regard this special day. To me, it's like a holy

778
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:12.079
day because we are pausing to memorialize, to remember the

779
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.800
million plus American citizens who have paid the ultimate price.

780
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.119
And you can add to that million the families there

781
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:26.519
dearly associated with that sacrifice in a sense, martyrdom for

782
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:27.679
the sake of freedom.

783
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:33.440
And one piece of happy news coming out around Memorial

784
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:37.000
Day is that Tina Peters, a gold Star mother who

785
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:41.000
has been unjustly imprisoned for years for trying to do

786
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.760
her job as an election official and preserve evidence of

787
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.880
election fraud in the twenty twenty race in Colorado. The

788
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.239
election officials who were doing the fraud got her throne

789
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.400
in prison and a bias judge gave her an outrageous

790
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:58.639
sentence for a misdemeanor, and she was rotting in prison,

791
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.519
getting assaulted by fellow prisoners, not being protected, in bad health.

792
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.280
She's finally thanks to the actions of the Democrat Governor

793
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.039
of Colorado, Jared Poulos. We need to be grateful to him,

794
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.679
and the pressure from the Trump administration. She's finally her

795
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.719
sentence is being commuted, and she's going to be free

796
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.559
by June first, if she's not free already. And this

797
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.360
was a great miscarriage of justice, one of the many

798
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.559
associated with the twenty twenty election fraud, which, in order

799
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:34.400
to cover up a theft this enormous, this strategic, this decisive,

800
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.840
they were willing to do anything. The law Fair that's

801
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.760
still being waged against people like John Eastman, against.

802
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:44.760
Anyone who's been disbarred, is disgusting.

803
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.920
Right, My friend Sidney Powell is still fighting off Lawfair

804
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:56.400
because the system is designed to punish dissent. Lawyers who

805
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.639
represented Donald Trump are getting disbarred for doing their job

806
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:03.360
of rep resenting their clients zealously. Because the bar associations

807
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:08.639
have been politicized, the left has recreated in American institutions.

808
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.320
What used to exist in the Soviet Union, not under Stalin,

809
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but under Brezhnev. You know, they weren't gulag camps there.

810
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.719
There weren't mass famines. What there was was a system

811
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:29.559
of systematically destroying the lives of anyone who dissents, making

812
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:35.079
you utterly miserable, in order to create a self censorship,

813
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:40.800
in order to create internalized fear of the system. And

814
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so the system, however corrupt, however sclerotic and incompetent it was,

815
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.679
it still shuffled along like a zombie because anyone who

816
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.519
raised his head to try to resist it would get

817
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:56.559
stomped on. And that was the model that the Democrats

818
00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:00.440
were implementing across the country, and still exists in Blues states.

819
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.719
And you see the results in states like California and

820
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.679
Oregon and Washington where the cities are becoming unlivable. And

821
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.159
what are they doing. They're doing something the Soviets have

822
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:14.440
ever thought of, importing millions of third world immigrants to

823
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:21.360
serve as a fraudulent voting base and warm bodies for

824
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.840
riots when necessary, in order again to intimidate and replace

825
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:31.360
the native population with compliant, obedient clients. Surfs peasants.

826
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.360
You know, the thing that's so pathetic about this John

827
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:40.960
is that they've rendered themselves stupid. The left has because

828
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.280
when you don't allow dissent, you've got, you know, so

829
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:47.119
much commonality. You know. It's the old saying that says,

830
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.199
when you have two people in the same room with

831
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.159
the same thought and the same expression, one is redundant

832
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.719
and unnecessary. Well, there's lots of unnecessary people, and there's

833
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:58.840
a waste of intellect in the process. They've all been

834
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.559
dumbed down. And my prayer for them is that they

835
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:08.679
would wake up and reapprehend their god given right and intellect,

836
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:13.960
because we don't need them rendered stupid, we need intellect.

837
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:14.360
Go ahead.

838
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.599
A lot of the Brendan Straka started this movement walk Away,

839
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.320
getting people to just give up on the Democratic Party

840
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.920
because it is in a death spiral and it has

841
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.760
dumbed itself down. Now they have to pretend there are

842
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.360
forty seven genders. They have to pretend that men can

843
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:32.000
be pregnant.

844
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:34.199
They have to.

845
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:40.960
Basically, it's become a really superstitious, intolerant, irrational religion and

846
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.639
it's hell. The only thing that holds it together is

847
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:48.920
the fervent, fanatical, anti rational commitment that you get in

848
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:50.199
a religion gone wrong.

849
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.480
It's the same thing in Iran. What are they holding

850
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.920
on too? They're in a death spiral and the leadership

851
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.519
cannot let go. They're like that monkey with their hand

852
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.280
in the jar. You know, they got that nut in

853
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.559
their hand and they want to get released out of

854
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.360
that jar, but they dare not let go of that nut.

855
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:08.599
Yeah.

856
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:12.519
Yeah, So we've had some good political news this past

857
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:18.079
week in the really crucial Texas Senate race where uh

858
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:25.760
aging discredited Rhino John Cornyn was hoping to bully Donald

859
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:31.480
Trump into endorsing him against the insurgent patriot candidate Ken Patston,

860
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:35.039
our attorney general who's done a fantastic job of defeating

861
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:39.880
law fair and fighting radical Islam and cracking down on

862
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:46.719
immigration fraud. John Cornyn has supported amnesty, gun control. He

863
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:51.800
called the January sixth demonstrators terrorists. He has no business

864
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.000
representing the state of Texas as a Republican. It'd be

865
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:59.679
like if Ted Cruz were the Democrat senator from Massachusetts.

866
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.880
It just makes absolutely no sense. But our corrupt local

867
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.559
Republican Party, which is controlled by the Bush family and

868
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.360
Carl Rove has kept this. This is propped up, this

869
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.679
corpse of a senator for thirty almost.

870
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.199
Thirty years, exactly amazing.

871
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.800
Yes, Donald Trump finally came out and endorsed Ken Paxton

872
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:26.280
and the rhinos in the Senator screaming they're threatening to

873
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:29.880
obstruct Trump's agenda. The problem is they've already obstructed it.

874
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.840
They can't do any worse. It's like the Democrats in

875
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.840
the Blue States threatening to Jerrymander. Oops, we already have.

876
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.280
We've already fired all our ammo. We've already thrown every

877
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:43.440
piece of unfairness we can at the wall to see

878
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.199
what would stick. So now I think Ken Paxton is

879
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.119
going to be the next Republican senator, the next Republican

880
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:51.119
senator from Texas.

881
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.239
Another piece of wait, hang on one second, just on Paxton. Less.

882
00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.760
People forget huge historic settlement with the A. Tchech Children's

883
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:03.239
Hospital that right right, that.

884
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:07.639
Is the hospital that was sexually mutilized, mutilating and sterilizing

885
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.079
children and trying to imprison its critics, trying to send

886
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:16.119
them to federal prison for being whistleblowers. And they have

887
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.199
been forced a cave to stop mutilating children and to

888
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.639
start the first detransitioning clinic in order to try to

889
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.360
undo some of the harm that they did on these

890
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:31.679
four confused children with misguided parents and criminally malpractic practice

891
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.599
malpracticing psychologists.

892
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.760
And Paxton led the way. I mean, this is this

893
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:39.480
is the first time, this is historic, this has been

894
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.440
going on, and this Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton,

895
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.440
goes after them, gets this incredible award. You know, they're

896
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.679
going to pay ten million dollars for fraudulently billing Texas medicaid.

897
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.559
You know, I mean, where's where's all these other governors

898
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.800
and everything? Where where's you know, where's Governor Waltz, Where's Newsome?

899
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.000
Are they doing anything about medicaid fraud?

900
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:01.559
No?

901
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.400
But here's paston in Texas. He gets this big victory

902
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.920
and not only gets them to stop doing it, they

903
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:12.760
also have to start to do a detransition clinic as well.

904
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.079
Right right, right, So yeah, this is the kind of

905
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.800
conservative leader we need. He'll meet somebody who sits on

906
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:23.039
his haunches and gets in the hot tub with the

907
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:26.960
Democrats and signs off on things that most Texans would

908
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.079
be appalled at if they knew about it. So that's

909
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.440
a hopeful thing. I'm glad that Thomas Massey was defeated

910
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.960
in his primary. He's been really good on a number

911
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.119
of issues over the years, but he also turned himself

912
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:46.480
into kind of a grand standing, self serving zealot who

913
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.400
seemed to be more about the clicks, more about engaging

914
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.679
on social media, and he started mixing with some really

915
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:59.079
dark people, Holocaust revisionists for real, anti Semites, not just

916
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:03.800
people like me who are skeptical of foreign wars and

917
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:07.800
skeptical of the US getting directly involved in the Middle East.

918
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.639
But Nassy was going beyond that. He was getting people

919
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.239
from Pakistan and Turkey piling on behind him. He was

920
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:21.280
getting money from Palestinians. In his concession speech, he said

921
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.480
that he couldn't contact his opponent who'd defeated him, because

922
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.760
he was in Tel Aviv. I mean, this is ugly,

923
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.360
dark stuff that has no place in American politics. So

924
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.920
I'm just as glad that Nassi can now go fulfill

925
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:38.119
his dream of being an anti Semitic podcaster full time.

926
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.719
Maybe he and Candae Owen can do a show together,

927
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:46.440
or maybe he and Tucker Carlson and they can broadcast

928
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.320
to their mostly Pakistani audience and serve their donors from

929
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:54.559
cutter and just get out of the way of making

930
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:55.639
America great again.

931
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:59.039
Well, you know, perhaps we have a movement here of

932
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.760
you know, rhino disposal, you know, to where they're finally,

933
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.960
you know, these rhinos might really be shaking a bit

934
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:13.239
in realizing that Donald Trump has a lot of influence here.

935
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:13.840
Yeah.

936
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.239
Look, Ratzenberger, that terrible secretary.

937
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.000
Is exactly George.

938
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.119
Who helped the elections steal in twenty twenty and tried

939
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.960
to prosecute his critics. He came in third. Yeah, in

940
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.559
his quest to become governor of Georgia. Trump's endorsements, which

941
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.800
aren't always good. Sometimes he endorses rhinos and it's inexplicable

942
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.679
to me, but his endorsements prove pretty powerful in this

943
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:41.440
election cycle. Voting is still going on for the Texas

944
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:44.480
Senate race, So if you're in Texas and you're a Republican,

945
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.639
please get out there and vote for Ken Paxton. We've

946
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:52.079
not yet sealed the deal, but it's really important that

947
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:56.719
the Republican Party be reshaped in the image not of

948
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:59.920
Donald Trump personally, but of his supporters.

949
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.280
And the ideal of America First. John. You know, I

950
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:07.960
think that is key common sense and America First. This

951
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.880
is the championing call that Donald Trump has been leading, and.

952
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:16.599
We need to realize America First doesn't mean national selfishness,

953
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:21.320
it's national humility. We have to fix America's problems first.

954
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.679
We have to look out for American, our American neighbors

955
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.760
who are hurting first, before we try to be the

956
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:34.320
global hedgemon running an empire, imposing our values around the world.

957
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.880
While our airports aren't secure, our highways are crumbling, our

958
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.360
cities are full of meth addicted schizophrenics who are being

959
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:47.440
who are untreated, who are pushing people onto subway tracks

960
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:53.039
and assaulting them and dying of meth addiction and fentyl addiction.

961
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:57.119
It's it's I used to say, you want change, start

962
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:03.519
with your underwear, and the Democrats are walking around in

963
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:09.000
filthy underwear telling giving everyone else health safety and hygiene

964
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:12.559
and grooming tips. And that was America under Joe Biden.

965
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:21.440
Open borders, social media censorship, masking lockdowns, taking children away

966
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.079
from their parents if they don't approve of the school

967
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:28.840
psychologists plan to transition them to the opposite sex. It

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00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.360
was America under Biden, as it would have been worse

969
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.079
under Harris It was like something from a right wing

970
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:41.079
apocalyptic novel written in the nineteen nineties by a guy

971
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.559
in a trailer park typing single space in his double wide,

972
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.679
about the crazy leftists and all the things they would

973
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.719
do if they could get away with it. I really

974
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:54.000
feels like we're living through a novel like that rather

975
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:59.440
than the real world. The Democrats have become. They're beyond parody.

976
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.400
I write satire, They've put me out of business. I

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00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.840
can't write satire now because it's outpaced by.

978
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The news cycle.

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Right I can't come up with something so crazy that

980
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the Democrats haven't already tried it and aren't planning to

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do it if they ever get power again.

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You see, this is what happens when satire clashes with reality.

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Wife imitates parent. Wife, Stop for a minute, ago, wait

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00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.199
a minute. You know something's wrong here. We got to

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leave it there. John Zameric the author of No Second Amendment,

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No First, The Politically and Correct Guide to Catholicism, and

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many other books. Doctor John has always appreciate the time

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take care of Michael, God blessed, Bye.

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Eight hundred six nine nine oh three five eight, eight

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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez live, Hey.

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Right now, six minutes after the top of the hour.

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00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:51.360
Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here along

1011
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.360
with Selwyn Duke. He's the writer for The New American

1012
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.039
and many other magazines and publications because he's just that

1013
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:01.880
kind of a wise and everybody wants his wisdom. Hey,

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selwen Ho. You doing well.

1015
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Bill, I'm doing swimmingly.

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How are you, Hey, I'm doing terrific. Thank you so

1017
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.559
much here speaking in swimming, Lee, I'm back in the heat.

1018
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:14.480
I made a West coast tour for a couple of weeks.

1019
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.119
I went back to California to see the chillings and

1020
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:21.079
to see for myself what it's like to pay two

1021
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.559
dollars more for a gallon of gas as opposed to

1022
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:24.760
what we're paying here at Florida.

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00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:26.039
It's insane. Wow.

1024
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:28.559
Well it's hot down there in Florida, I know that,

1025
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.400
but the prices are a lot lower even if the

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00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:31.400
temperature is higher.

1027
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.320
Yeap, exactly. But I'll tell you, looking at California, it's

1028
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:37.920
no wonder that you've got a candidate for mayor there

1029
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.840
that's getting a lot of traction because and he's just appealing,

1030
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:47.280
you know, to the practical, common sense pain that Los

1031
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:51.239
Angelinos have been enduring under Karen Bass and that leadership.

1032
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:52.800
Yeah.

1033
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.920
Yeah, well absolutely, there's no doubt about it. And the

1034
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.119
question is can he win with all the vote fraud

1035
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:03.079
that they have normalized in California. But they definitely have

1036
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.719
to do something about their current system. I mean, Larry

1037
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.119
Elder put it very well. He ran for the governor

1038
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:09.960
out there, and they should have voted him in. But

1039
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.840
he said, until Californians start hating bad policy more than

1040
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:15.880
they hate Republicans, nothing's going to change.

1041
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:19.559
Well exactly. And I know, speaking of voter fraud, if

1042
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:21.800
you heard the story about the gal, she's been doing

1043
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this for twenty years, she's going out. I mean, this

1044
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is probably why.

1045
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You know, you.

1046
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Got a seventy thousand voter base of homeless people run around, right,

1047
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:36.880
and you know, you think about this metaphor here in Minneapolis,

1048
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:41.719
you got eighty thousand Somalis as a voting block, controlling

1049
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:47.320
the entire state right of Minnesota. Now you've got this

1050
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:51.719
woman for twenty years has built up this you know,

1051
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:54.159
this side hustle. I think it's a serious side hustle

1052
00:59:54.440 --> 01:00:00.280
where she is ballad harvesting from homeless people. Well, and

1053
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:03.559
of course, in order to register to vote, you must

1054
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.039
have an address. Well, this woman knew that, so she

1055
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:09.079
used her own address for all these homeless people. So

1056
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:11.840
you had thousands of people living had this one address.

1057
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.599
They finally caught up with her, but for twenty years,

1058
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.880
you think how much money did she make number one

1059
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:22.880
number two. This is probably just like in Minnesota, is

1060
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.320
off operating like a franchise. How many other franchisees are

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01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.000
operating in the state of California.

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01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:33.719
Yeah, well, look, it's unbelievable. First of all, there has

1063
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:36.400
to be harsh punishment for this kind of behavior because

1064
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:40.079
this undermines the fabric of the republic. I mean, vote

1065
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.119
fraud is something that is very, very destructive because it

1066
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.960
undermines people's confidence in the system. If it were up

1067
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:48.239
to me, people guilty of something like that would be

1068
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:50.679
doing at least ten years hard labor. But I have

1069
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:52.760
to tell you something else, Bill, I've been reporting on

1070
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.639
this for decades. As you may know, the Democrats have

1071
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.599
vote fraud down to a science. I call it winning

1072
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:02.000
elections by a thousand cuts. They have so many different

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01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:04.159
ways of doing it. You know, I quoted this on

1074
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:08.079
your show before. But there was that Democrat operative Scott Foevol,

1075
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:10.719
who was caught on hidden video by Project Veritas in

1076
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:14.480
twenty sixteen and he said, quote, we've been bussing people

1077
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:16.599
in to deal with you mf ers. He used the

1078
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:19.519
word fifty years, and we're not going to stop now.

1079
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.840
And that's just one example. I mean it is staggering

1080
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:23.760
the magnitude of.

1081
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.880
It, right exactly, and again same thing. You know, one example,

1082
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.679
and people will go, oh, you know the left will say,

1083
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:33.880
well that's just one example. Well okay, you really want

1084
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:36.639
to go deep on this. I mean you you are

1085
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:40.840
the same people that even the former Attorney General Eric

1086
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:43.280
Holder who said, oh, there's no such thing as voter

1087
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:46.119
frond I go please, I mean, you're an attorney general

1088
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:48.599
and you make such a ridiculous statement when people are

1089
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:51.599
being arrested and they are in jail for voter fraud

1090
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.840
and you're saying voter prod doesn't exist. Give me a break.

1091
01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.559
Yeah, well, he would say that because it benefits the

1092
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:01.760
Democrats almost six exclusively. That's the truth. And by the way,

1093
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:04.719
I want to mention something else, this character again a Democrat,

1094
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.800
fauv All said. He said, quote, there's more of an

1095
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:11.159
adherence to the rules on the other side, except at

1096
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:14.639
the highest level. So he himself was saying he knew

1097
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:18.320
his fellow Democrats and himself were sleeve bags, but they

1098
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.119
were basically maybe he's a sociopath. I don't know, so

1099
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.480
he really doesn't care. Just the end justifies the means.

1100
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:30.000
But it's absolutely staggering. Again, so many ways of stealing elections.

1101
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:35.039
There's ballot harvesting, there's destroying Republican votes. You know, I

1102
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.519
found out at one point that sometimes these Democrat operatives

1103
01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:42.159
work with postal workers who are sympathetic to them within

1104
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:44.679
the system, and they'll throw out ballots that come from

1105
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:48.960
Republican areas. You know, there's these mail in ballots. These

1106
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:53.039
ballots really are conducive to facilitating vote fraud. I mean,

1107
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:55.719
in August of twenty twenty, it was I think it

1108
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:58.679
was The New York Post reported on this. A Democrat

1109
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:01.800
operative spoke to them under the condition of anonymity, and

1110
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:04.519
he said he had been running a group for many,

1111
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.639
many years that had been perpetrating mail in vote fraud,

1112
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.719
and he said that it was severe enough to swing

1113
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:13.760
elections in close states. And this, by the way, was

1114
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:18.280
before the COVID nonsense, which changed everything and made mail

1115
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.599
in balloting even more pervasive, even more extensive.

1116
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:24.800
You know, there are some things I guess we can

1117
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:27.559
take away that you might say in a weird way

1118
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:31.360
that we're thankful for COVID, because COVID did expose a

1119
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.719
lot of things and relevant to the you know, voting

1120
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.079
and mail in voting and all the fraud that took place.

1121
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.079
I mean, even to this day, Selwyn, you've got over

1122
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:44.039
sixty percent of America believe that the twenty twenty election

1123
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:44.880
was fraudulent.

1124
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.159
Right, Well, I can tell you I'm totally convinced that

1125
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:51.000
it was. Now, maybe I can't prove that in a

1126
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.760
court of law myself. I'm just one man. But if

1127
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:57.800
you look at the circumstantial evidence, it's absolutely overwhelming. I mean,

1128
01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:00.760
for instance, this now is an old statistic, but there

1129
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:05.599
were nineteen Bellweather counties where for decades the candidate who

1130
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:10.039
won those nineteen counties always won the presidency. Well, guess

1131
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:13.480
who won eighteen of nineteen of them? President Trump did

1132
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:16.559
in twenty twenty. Nonetheless, he lost. Why did he lose

1133
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:19.679
that nineteenth because that was actually a county where they

1134
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:22.559
changed the voting system. So again, fraud was a lot

1135
01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:25.119
more likely. I believe that was the situation. But I'm

1136
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:27.079
just giving you one example. If you look at all

1137
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:30.960
of the circumstantial evidence, it just staggering. I cannot believe

1138
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.719
in any way, shape or form that Biden won that legitimately.

1139
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:38.440
Right, you see, and this speaks to the very heart

1140
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:41.840
and soul. I know, the Democrats are always fond of saying, well,

1141
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:44.519
the heart and soul of our democracy and that sort

1142
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:46.960
of thing. Look at the heart and soul of our

1143
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:53.480
democracy right now is so corrosive because we've allowed this

1144
01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:57.039
fraud and deception to take place, and at every turn,

1145
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:01.679
I mean, our governmental institution, all the three letter agencies,

1146
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:04.199
we don't trust them any longer. We don't trust the

1147
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:07.599
systems that we're living under. Right now, we're thirty nine

1148
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:12.239
trillion dollars in debt. Elon Musk comes into the government says,

1149
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:14.639
I think I can find a trillion dollars of fraud

1150
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:17.519
and waste that's just off the top, right, And as

1151
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:20.519
soon as he started getting into it, oh my goodness,

1152
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.320
I mean, they all but tarred and feathered him and

1153
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.199
his stores to get him out of dodge because they

1154
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.360
didn't want anybody lifting the hood of their cars and

1155
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.599
looking in to see what kind of operation and engine

1156
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:35.519
they had operating there. Right right.

1157
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.559
Well, absolutely, I reported on this not long ago, all

1158
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:40.840
the fraud that we have in our government and how

1159
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.320
much taxpayer money is absolutely wasted. Well, you know, we

1160
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.760
had that nine billion dollars Somali fraud scandal in Minnesota,

1161
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.800
maybe up to nine billion dollars to be precise. That's

1162
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:53.320
just the tip of the iceberg. That's just one example.

1163
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:56.440
I mean, I think thirty seven percent. Don't quote me

1164
01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:58.679
on that. It was a high percentage of our national

1165
01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:02.519
debt is attributable, probably to fraud. That's what studies have shown.

1166
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.119
I'm not saying it's thirty seven percent, but it's way

1167
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:08.199
more than it should be. And unfortunately, you've got a

1168
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.159
lot of people feeding up this truf And I think

1169
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:13.599
it's real slap in the face when you see foreigners

1170
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:17.639
like Somali's do it. They come here, they're newcomers, taxpayers

1171
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:20.960
or maybe legacy Americans, and their tax money is being

1172
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:22.480
siphoned off by these crooks.

1173
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:27.280
It's terrible taking advantage of our hospitality and goodwill. I mean,

1174
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:29.960
what a slap in the face. I mean, this is

1175
01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:32.480
a such an insult what they are doing and what

1176
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:35.119
they have done and perpetrated to the American people. Just

1177
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:36.599
go to quick break. We'll pick it up on the

1178
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:38.639
other side. More from Selwyn after this stay with us.

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and I guess to put a bow on all this fraud.

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I mean, yes, fraud's a big part of it. I

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look at the thirty nine trillion dollars. Zen I've asked,

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you know, the economists that I travel around, I'm in

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their orbit. I said, okay, look at the thirty nine

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trillion dollars. How much of that can you attach to

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vote getting? He said, all of it, without exception. And

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most of that has been done by one party over

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the other. The Republicans, you know, a small fraction by comparison.

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You know, as you mentioned earlier, the Democrats are are

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ten degree black belts. When it comes to utilize the

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treasury of the American people, they find a way to

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tap into it. NGOs have been a powerful new engine

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for them. They've exercised them to such a degree that

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they're able to, you know, put them into business and

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get part of the big it's like a mafia operation.

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You know, yeah, we'll help you out here. And it's

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like everything you look at and you see where people

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you know, where big money is at, and it comes

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from the government. Man, there's politicians attached to it, and

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part of that money, you know, the big is going

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to their election campaign, right.

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Well, absolutely, And I know a lot of people are

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going to say, well, this is just partisanship. Of course

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you're saying this because you're on the right. I would

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remind everyone again of what I said about Scott Fovall,

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a hardcore Democrat operative. He said that Republicans were actually

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more honest, they were more likely to adhere to the rules.

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So that's from the horse's mouth. And I want to

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say something else, Bill, We were talking about that Somali

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fraud scandal, up to nine billion dollars in Minnesota. This

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is why culture matters too, Okay, it matters the kind

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of people you absorb into your country. As John Adams

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said in seventeen ninety eight or second President, our constitution

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was made only for a moral and religious people. And

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let me give you one example of the seriousness of this.

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There was this writer on Substack, Carrie Stark, she wrote

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about this. She said she used to live in Minnesota.

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She had a Somali friend, and she said a conversation

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she had with him really changed her perspective and quote

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moved her to the right. She was talking to him

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about the folly and shortsightedness of lying for political gain.

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And you know what his reply was, why should I

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care about that? They're not my tribe. Those are your rules,

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not ours. Okay, you can't be taking people like that

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into the country because they're not going to assimilate. They

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are here too plunder and that's the truth, to plunder.

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And we've got to close our borders and get a

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house in order. I don't know if you agree that's fine,

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but if I had my d brothers, I would stop

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all immigration right now until we were no longer Balkanized.

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Yeah.

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When I talked to Larry Elder the other day, happen

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to run into him when I was in Los Angeles.

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He says, are you ready to get the Somalis out?

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You know that's a broad brush, certainly, but you know,

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to your point, we cannot house people that do not

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have a moral compass. And and the other thing is

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it's happening because it infects everybody else. You know, people think, okay,

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why should I care? You know, you know, insider trading

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is going on at the highest levels of government. Uh,

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these elected officials are making millions of dollars and they're

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cheating and gaming the system. Why are you coming after me?

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It's like that, who was it? The one the one

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guy here recently working for the government, and he had

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the inside information when Maduro was going to get arrested.

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Right.

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Well, in today's you know, voting parlance, you can I'm voting,

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I mean gambling, you can gamble on anything. And so

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he put some money down and I think he won

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something like four hundred thousand dollars. Lucky him. He guessed

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01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:12.680
when Maduro was going to get arrested, right, and they

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found him out he was a government operative. And some

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of the people said, why are you giving him a

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bad time because he exercised some insider trading benefit when

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you've got elected officials to do that on a daily basis,

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making millions of dollars.

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Absolutely absolutely, Now, of course we have to say you

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can't excuse bad behavior by points with other bad behavior.

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But nonetheless you're correct. I mean It's like Nancy Peloski.

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She's an investment mavin, isn't she She's got the best

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investment judgment in the world. She missed her calling. She

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01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:46.439
should have gone from whatever she was doing right into

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01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:48.840
Wall Street. That's what she should have done. But this

1351
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.600
is so corrosive to the system for the reason that

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01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:55.479
you just articulated, because people start to say everyone is

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doing it, I might as well get my piece of

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the pie. And this is how you descend into third

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world I've been to third world countries. I was in

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India years ago. I had an Indian tell me that

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you don't get anything done without paying bribes. You want

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a driver's license, you pay a bribe. In Mexico, this

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was in a documentary. I heard this. You can buy

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your way out of a fatal hit and run for

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four hundred and fifty dollars. I've been to Mexico again.

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Everything is done via bribery. If you want to move

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01:16:23.720 --> 01:16:26.680
towards that kind of a system, then yet don't do

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01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.319
anything about these things and also allow the moral character

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of the people to continue declining, because that's exactly where

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we will be. We like to talk many of us

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01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:40.079
about American exceptionalism. The only way in which we were

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01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:44.079
exceptional that really mattered was virtue wise, and that of

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01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:48.279
course spread other types of exceptionalism. And once you lose

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01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:51.399
the virtue and the people is the founding fathers emphasized

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01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:54.640
over and over and over again, then all else is

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for naught. Stop me if I'm going on too long.

1373
01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:59.399
But as Edmonds now, you're exactly right, because this is

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01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:02.840
what put holes in your pockets, this is what gets

1375
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:05.399
you thirty nine trillion dollars in debt.

1376
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:10.479
Right right, as Edmund Burke said the Anglo Irish philosopher,

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01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:14.159
it is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that

1378
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:18.279
men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge

1379
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:21.039
their fetters. And this is what people don't want to

1380
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.359
deal with. You know, the problem is us, the man

1381
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:25.520
in the mirror. We have to improve him.

1382
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:28.319
Right, about three and a half minutes left, I did

1383
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:30.600
want to cover one of the items you've been writing

1384
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:35.640
about recently, redistricting, the redistricting wars. You know, it's kind

1385
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:39.960
of interesting. You know the Democrats really, you know, thought okay,

1386
01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:42.239
we're going to seize this until they got the big

1387
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:43.880
slap down in Virginia.

1388
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:47.520
Right right, Well, absolutely. First of all, you have to

1389
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:50.960
remember we also had the Louisiana v. Khalaid decision where

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01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:54.760
the Supreme Court ruled that you cannot create districts purely

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01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.600
on a racial basis, and this has allowed all these

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01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:00.760
Republican states, and the Democrats have been cat walling about

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01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:03.920
it to now change their maps so they could eliminate

1394
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.720
certain Democrat seats. Now you might say, well, is that fair.

1395
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.279
This is what the Democrats have been doing for ages.

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01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:10.920
And by the way, I want to mention this because

1397
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I did the research. There are studies that have shown

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01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:17.319
that if you had no redistricting whatsoever in the way

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01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:19.880
we do it, I'm sorry. If you had no jerrymandering,

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01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.399
no jurymandering, Okay, if you just divided districts based on

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01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:29.399
population very proportionately, if you didn't consider racial factors or

1402
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:33.439
anything you shouldn't consider. Guess what, Basically the maps would

1403
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.159
come out the way they are now with the Republicans

1404
01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:39.319
now taking back their seats. Maybe the GOP would have

1405
01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:41.520
a two seat advantage if we did things that way,

1406
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:43.800
so it would be a wash. So the point is

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01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:47.000
the Democrats have been doing this all along, and now

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01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:50.199
the Republicans can just follow suit. Because remember when they

1409
01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:53.880
had to create these racially jerymandered districts that led to

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01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:57.520
one hundred and forty four districts, all but twenty three

1411
01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:01.319
of which voted for Democrats. Think about that. That is

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01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:04.359
gaming the system. That is, as I put it, affirmative

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01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:07.680
action for Democrats. And now it has ended. And that's

1414
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:10.720
what they're upset about because they know that unless they

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01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:14.800
gain the system with jerry mandering, racial jerry mandering, with

1416
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:18.239
vote fraud, with a lot of other ways of engaging

1417
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:21.119
in shenanigans, they can't win because they don't have any

1418
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:23.239
policies to run on. What are they going to say?

1419
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:25.840
All they have is hating Trump. That's what they've been

1420
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:26.760
hanging their hats on.

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Yeah, that's what you know. Because even during the twenty

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twenty campaign with Kamala Harris's you know, tell me something good, Well,

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tell me something positive that we can say, Thank god

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we had Biden Harris in office for four years on

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behalf of America. I can't come up with one sellman.

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And yes, I mean am I you know, am I

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more conservative in my viewpoint? But even still I want to,

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you know, try to give them the benefit of the

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down and say, help me, help me understand. What did

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you do for the good of the country.

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Well, that's the whole thing. That's one reason why Kamala

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Harris lost. When she was asked on the view is

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there anything you would do differently relative to what Joe

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Biden has done? She said, I can't think of anything.

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Now that was probably an honest answer, but they have

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nothing to point to, nothing substantive. Look, I'm old enough

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as or you to remember when Democrats and I didn't

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support them back then either actually ran on some policies

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buttressing the middle class or maybe improving the job situation.

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Who knows.

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Now it's nothing.

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It's just hating Trump all the time. And however you

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feel about him, you have to realize that's not a policy.

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01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:37.039
And here I will quote G. K.

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Chesterton.

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He said, the true soldier fights not because he hates

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what is in front of him, but because he loves

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what is behind him. Okay, the Democrats only hate what

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is in front of them. They're not true soldiers, and

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they should not hold office for that reason and for

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one other, and that one other is that they have

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made it crystal clear James Carvel was talking about this recently,

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the Democratic Strategist that if if they regain power the

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White House and Congress, they are going to ensure by

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gaming the system that they will never lose it again.

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They're going to pack the Supreme Court, They're going to

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make DC and Puerto Rico states. Okay, you cannot allow

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these people to gain power again because they're not honest brokers.

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They will destroy our system.

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You got it.

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He's the writer for The New America and The Hill

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you so much, take care, be well.

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Thank you Bill, God bless.

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Good morning, Welcome, Good to have you with us. Bill

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Martinez here for more information on the show Bill Martinez

1531
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Live dot com. You know food shouldn't hurt, and you

1532
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:20.039
should know the signs of what we call EOE, one

1533
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:23.159
of the fastest growing digestive diseases in the US, affecting

1534
01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:27.399
and estimated one in seven hundred people get. Many remain undiagnosed.

1535
01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:30.640
When eating becomes painful or difficult. It's often dismissed as

1536
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:35.640
reflux or allergies, but these symptoms may signal something more serious.

1537
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:39.279
Here to tell us more about it is, Doctor Evan Delan.

1538
01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:43.680
He can share what EOE is all about, why it's

1539
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:47.000
often overlooked, and how to recognize the signs. Doctor Dellan,

1540
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:48.520
welcome to show. Good to have you with us.

1541
01:25:49.399 --> 01:25:51.880
Thanks so much for having me well EOE.

1542
01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:56.399
I attempted to verbalize it myself, but I thought, okay,

1543
01:25:56.680 --> 01:25:59.520
why not crash and burn here, So I'll let you

1544
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:03.960
explain to our audience EOE exactly what it.

1545
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:06.159
Is absolutely so.

1546
01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:11.880
EOE stands for snophilic esophagitis, and it's say, a lifelong

1547
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.119
allergic condition of the esophagus. That's the swallowing tube that

1548
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:19.039
connects the mouth to the stomach. And what happens is

1549
01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:21.760
is a set of allergy cells which happens to include

1550
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.479
the enophil It's a kind of white blood cell build

1551
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:27.319
up abnormally in the esophagus and it causes a lot

1552
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:31.760
of irritation, swelling, inflammation, and ultimately scar tissue in the

1553
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:36.439
esophagus that can lead to difficulties swallowing, pain with swallowing,

1554
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:40.039
and it often disrupts daily life. And as you mentioned,

1555
01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:43.439
it's really one of the fastest growing digestive diseases. We're

1556
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:45.600
seeing it in one in seven hundred people, so about

1557
01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:48.720
five hundred thousand people in the US now, and so

1558
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:50.560
it's great to be able to talk with you about

1559
01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:52.039
it and try to raise some awareness.

1560
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:54.279
Yeah, why has it taken so long for people to

1561
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:55.000
become aware?

1562
01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:59.239
Well, a lot of times the symptoms can overlap with

1563
01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:04.039
more common conditions like reflux, and patients sometimes don't even

1564
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:06.760
appreciate that the symptoms should get checked out. Sometimes if

1565
01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:10.399
they're swallowing difficulties, someone might just say, oh, you know,

1566
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:12.199
I took too big of a bite or I wasn't

1567
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:15.760
paying attention with eating, and over time that leads them

1568
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:19.199
to perhaps avoid certain foods that stick, or eat more carefully,

1569
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:23.079
and that would prevent them from seeing the doctor. They

1570
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:26.199
may not even realize it's a symptom to report, and

1571
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:29.560
because of that, it's about four to six years on

1572
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:33.079
average that people have symptoms before they're ultimately diagnosed.

1573
01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:36.159
And this is of course one of the reasons why

1574
01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:42.840
it's missed often and misdiagnosed. Right, Yes, absolutely, so, the

1575
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.279
key warning signs that people should look for.

1576
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:49.880
In teenagers and adults, the main symptoms are trouble swallowing,

1577
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:52.840
and so people would appreciate this as food hanging up,

1578
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:57.479
maybe a choking sensation, food going down slowly or sticking

1579
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:01.199
and then sometimes causing pain or fullness the chest with swallowing,

1580
01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:04.039
and the severe symptom is a food impaction where food

1581
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:07.960
gets stuck so badly that it can't get you can't

1582
01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:09.520
get it up or down, and you need to be

1583
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.319
seen in an emergency room and have an emergency procedure

1584
01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:15.720
to clear that out. And so again, some people may

1585
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:19.600
discount these symptoms, but they really need to be aware

1586
01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:21.760
of them, and it's a little bit of a different situation.

1587
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:26.279
In children, they may have symptoms like abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting,

1588
01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:29.520
difficulty eating or food refusal, or even just being a

1589
01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:32.399
picky eater that may be signs of IOIE. But those

1590
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:35.479
symptoms are very common in a number of conditions in children,

1591
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:38.319
so a pediatric g I doc has to help sort

1592
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:38.880
all that out.

1593
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:43.039
So what you're telling us is this can affect people

1594
01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:43.760
of all ages.

1595
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:48.399
Then, yeah, absolutely all ages, all walks of life can

1596
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:50.119
have this and do have this.

1597
01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:54.119
Well, we're talking with doctor Evan Dellan. He's a professor

1598
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:59.279
of medicine and adjunct professor of epidemiology at the University

1599
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:03.880
of North Carolina School of Medicine in Chapel Hill. Doctor Dellan,

1600
01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:08.640
what should someone do if they think their symptoms may

1601
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:09.239
be EOE.

1602
01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:13.239
Yeah, the first thing is to go to your provider,

1603
01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:17.520
and going to the primary care provider is perfectly appropriate.

1604
01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:20.800
Recognize that these symptoms are not normal, and they're not

1605
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:23.840
you don't have to cope with them. The idea is

1606
01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:26.680
that if you go and get diagnosed or on the

1607
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.319
early side, we have treatments that help with symptoms and

1608
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:32.760
can decrease complications in the long run and will make

1609
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:36.119
you feel better. And so starting with the doctor there

1610
01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:38.960
is the best option. Ultimately, you may get referred or

1611
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:41.680
likely will get referred to a GI doctor and they

1612
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:44.600
make the final or the definitive diagnosis for you.

1613
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:47.439
Well, as doctor Dellan pointed out, you know, difficulty in

1614
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:51.319
swallowing food, getting stock pain when eating. These are hallmark

1615
01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:55.119
signs of EOE and symptoms that can disrupt daily life,

1616
01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:58.399
create anxiety around meals, and in some cases lead to

1617
01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.199
food impaction, reques firing emergency care.

1618
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:03.840
Right, yeah, yeah, it can be.

1619
01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:06.359
It can be a pretty dramatic event.

1620
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.199
Right And as you pointed out as well, Uh though,

1621
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:13.319
these you can have a serious impact on parents, on

1622
01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:17.000
patients' lives. We're talking sometimes, you know, four to six

1623
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:21.319
years for a patient to receive an accurate diagnosis.

1624
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:24.680
Yeah, I hear that commonly. You know, people just say

1625
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:26.680
I didn't realize it was something that was going on.

1626
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.439
And oftentimes it might be a friend or a family

1627
01:30:29.439 --> 01:30:32.239
member who points out, hey, why are you eating like that?

1628
01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:35.439
That actually the eating behaviors that people have coped with

1629
01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:37.720
over years may not strike them, but they may strike

1630
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:39.119
a friend or family member.

1631
01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:41.520
Right exactly. So you want to listen to those around

1632
01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:44.760
as we wrap things up here, Doctor Dellan, you know

1633
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:48.039
the key takeaway here that you want the audience to

1634
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:49.319
have from our conversation.

1635
01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:54.279
The key thing is, if you're experiencing these symptoms, you know,

1636
01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:57.279
get checked out. It's not normal to have trouble swallowing,

1637
01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:00.840
and oftentimes it's not refluxed. Don't you assume that it's

1638
01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:03.760
reflux or something else that you can you can treat

1639
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:04.319
on your own.

1640
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:07.239
And where can the folks go to learn more?

1641
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:10.840
So, you could check out the website from the American

1642
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:14.479
Partnership for Asinophilic Disorders. This is app FED. You can

1643
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:19.039
find them at appfed dot org, ap fed dot org

1644
01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:21.039
forward slash eoed.

1645
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:24.119
Doctor Dellan, thank you, appreciate the time, take care, be well.

1646
01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:27.159
Thank you so much, and thanks for helping raise awareness

1647
01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:27.840
about EOE.

1648
01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:31.840
Well our thanks once again for doctor Evan Dellan for

1649
01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:35.399
coming on and telling us all about EOE, helping us

1650
01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:40.119
even pronounce a sinophilic esophagitis, one of the fastest growing

1651
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:43.680
digestive diseases in the US, affecting and estimated one in

1652
01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:47.840
seven hundred people. And just a couple of sidebar tidbits

1653
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.199
as we wrap this segment up, I trust that you

1654
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:56.560
had an honorable Memorial Day, remembering those that have paid

1655
01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:59.000
the ultimate price. I still I got to tell you

1656
01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:01.880
it still bothers. I mean that some people get confused

1657
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:05.560
and think that Memorial Day should include all people that served.

1658
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:05.680
No.

1659
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:10.760
Memorial Day is reserved only for those that served in

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the military, that gave their lives, that paid the ultimate price.

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01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:18.479
Over a million people since our country came into being

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01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:20.960
over two hundred and fifty year well just about two

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01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:23.800
hundred and fifty years ago. So those are the terms

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01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:26.359
that we should look at, how we should understand Memorial

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01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:30.840
Day and why it should be protected. Also, Johnny Joey

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01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:34.039
Jones re enlisted in the Marine Corps M five. When

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01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.640
we talk semper five, you mean semper five. He did

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01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:39.880
it this week. You know, Joey was one the one

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01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:43.439
who lost his legs in Afghanistan, which dramatically changed his

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01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:46.720
life unfortunately, and his wife ended up getting a divorce.

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01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:49.880
But he has re upped. And I'll tell you know,

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01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:53.800
interestingly enough, I was just at a rethling ceremony over

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01:32:53.880 --> 01:33:00.640
this Memorial weekend and without an exception, every one of

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01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:04.520
the military men that were there said that they would

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01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.359
do it again. And if they would let them back

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01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:11.520
in the army, without an exception, they would re up

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01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:15.720
some left wing, left wing lunacy. To take note of that,

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01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:20.119
Gary Bauer has pointed out the househo representatives voted last

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01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:23.000
week on a common sense bill to protect children and

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01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:27.079
parental rights. Now, the legislation requires public elementary and middle

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01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:30.960
schools to receive parental consent for a child to socially

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01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.960
transition in school and use preferred pronouns that lie about

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01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:38.079
the child's gender. Now, they should have passed unanimously, right,

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01:33:38.319 --> 01:33:41.439
But while every Republican voted for it, three percent of

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01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:45.479
House Democrats voted against it. Think about it. Ninety three

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01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:49.600
percent of House Democrats voted against that. Let that sink in,

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01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:54.479
and you want them to regain power and to lead

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01:33:54.560 --> 01:34:00.239
our country after this. This is incredible. Also, some sad

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01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:03.760
news last week, and we're praying for Tulca Gabbard. The

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01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:05.920
media wanted to take and run and try to make

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01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:08.439
it look like a bad deal and a stain on

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01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:12.279
the Trump administration. But the Director of National Intelligence sadly,

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01:34:12.319 --> 01:34:16.720
Tulca Gabbard submitted her resignation to President Trump. She's stepping

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01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:19.319
down at the end of June to assist her husband, Abraham,

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01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:22.800
who was just diagnosed with an extremely rare form of

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bone cancer. We must keep Tulca Gabbard, Abraham and their

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family in our prayers. Stay with us, slaves and gentlemen.

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We got more coming up right after this.

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Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with

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infamous and one and only Curtis out from MRC Hey,

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mister Curtis, how.

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You doing, Bunny?

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Hey, phili Fitty be with you.

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Hey, Always good to have this time together. And of course, hey,

1778
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:48.439
we're talking about Stephen Colbert. He's going out his swan

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01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:53.479
song and all that. I know for some people. I mean,

1780
01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:56.000
he's had this sentiment about other people, about good riddens,

1781
01:38:56.039 --> 01:38:58.720
and maybe there's some people that feel the same way, right.

1782
01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:07.600
Yeah, I mean this naval gazing, this sort of fulminating crying,

1783
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:11.640
curling up in the fetal position by the left over

1784
01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:15.920
Stephen Colbert is absolutely ludicrous. I mean, first of all,

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01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:20.680
if he's not dying, yeah one number two, if you

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01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:25.680
have that much faith, or if your happiness is determined

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01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:29.000
on whether or not someone at eleven thirty five on

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01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:32.479
one of the four Broadcast Networks five broadcast doworks, if

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01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:36.520
you're throwing the CW says mean things about Donald Trump

1790
01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:40.840
on a daily basis, you might want to reevaluate your

1791
01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:42.920
life a little bit. You may want to find some

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01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:46.479
hope that he's a meaning in something else.

1793
01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:48.279
You know.

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01:39:48.840 --> 01:39:51.520
And the other thing I say too is I mean

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01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:54.239
our research shows. And also if you just turn on

1796
01:39:54.399 --> 01:39:57.520
and you listen with eyes and ears that there are

1797
01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:00.520
plenty of other shows that are going to scratch that itch.

1798
01:40:01.279 --> 01:40:05.720
You know, with Colbert going out, there's still Saturday Live,

1799
01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:09.560
There's still Jimmy Kimmel, there is still Sef Myers. There's

1800
01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:12.920
all kinds of shows out there that still accomplish what

1801
01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:16.760
you're looking to find, which is late night there it

1802
01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:18.439
be for liberals.

1803
01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:19.000
Right.

1804
01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:21.720
Well, it's often said that in a room where you

1805
01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:26.039
have two people saying the same thing, then you find

1806
01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:29.439
that one is redundant and non necessary. And that's your point.

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01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:31.920
You know, there's enough out there not to mention the

1808
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.600
fact that, you know, you would hope that in any

1809
01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:37.079
kind of media that there would be some sense of

1810
01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:43.640
virtue and some some benefit by tuning in to Colbert

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01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:46.800
or Jimmy Kimmel or some you know, some other show,

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01:40:47.079 --> 01:40:50.079
even the view. Right after tuning in, you say, you

1813
01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:53.479
know what, I'm glad I spent I invested some of

1814
01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:56.439
my life into that show because it was so beneficial

1815
01:40:56.960 --> 01:41:00.399
and and of course you know it's in the eye

1816
01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:02.840
of the beholder. I get that, and that's up to you.

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01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:04.680
I mean, this is a free country that we live by.

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01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:08.319
But I only ask is that the reason that shows

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01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:11.319
like this are unsustainable is where's the virtue?

1820
01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:12.479
Yeah?

1821
01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:17.000
Yeah, you know, I'll say too. I mean, you look

1822
01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:20.880
at the numbers that born themselves out. I mean the

1823
01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:24.560
Saturday Night Live study that we put out last week

1824
01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:27.800
or at the beginning of this week, ninety one percent

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01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:31.920
of weekend Update political jokes targeting conservatives. I mean, that's

1826
01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:35.880
that's just a two points off of about the normal

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01:41:35.960 --> 01:41:40.079
that we've been finding with the regular comedy shows with Kimmel, Colbert, stuff,

1828
01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:43.439
Meyers to be Fallen, all those shows thrown in together

1829
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:48.319
with political jokes targeting conservatives, right, And it's not you know,

1830
01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:51.640
obviously you want humor, Bill, but also when you turn

1831
01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:56.279
into television or news related programming, you want to be

1832
01:41:56.359 --> 01:41:59.439
able to learn something. You want to find something out

1833
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:02.159
that you hadn't before. I mean, we like to think

1834
01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:05.359
when we come to NewsBusters, you find the if not

1835
01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:08.479
just the crazy quotes, but you find the data that

1836
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:13.800
we found here. But with Colbert, it's not he's not

1837
01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:18.199
providing that. With SNL, they're not providing that with Kimmel,

1838
01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:23.119
you're not providing that it is Milania Trump looks like

1839
01:42:23.159 --> 01:42:27.399
an expectant widow. Saturday Night Live this year made a

1840
01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:32.439
joke about President Trump going to the Trump Kennedy Center

1841
01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:34.319
to see it to see the opening night of a

1842
01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:38.520
musical a play, and Michael Jay, one of the Weekend

1843
01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:43.000
Update co hosts, said, to the giggling pleasure of his

1844
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:48.279
co host Colin jos mister Scarlett Johansson, that you know,

1845
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:50.760
the last time we, you know, we heard about a

1846
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:52.960
president going to a theater, it didn't really end up

1847
01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:56.479
well for them, in reference to Lincoln and Ford's theater.

1848
01:42:56.960 --> 01:43:00.319
But it's not to your point, it's not advancing the ball.

1849
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:05.159
It's not funny. There's you know, we find ourselves often

1850
01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:07.880
saying when we watch these shows, they're supposed to be

1851
01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:08.720
punch light somewhere.

1852
01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:09.279
Yeah.

1853
01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:12.560
Right, Well, and the thing is what happens, like anything

1854
01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:17.279
that's comedic, if you find yourself in a silo and

1855
01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:21.199
the room is small and constricted and those are the

1856
01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:24.680
only people laughing, well then you know, how long is

1857
01:43:24.680 --> 01:43:26.399
that going to last? And again it gets back to

1858
01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:29.760
the value. You know, I grew up with the likes

1859
01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:33.439
of you know, Red Skelton and Jack Benny and you

1860
01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:37.560
know these classic comedians that you know, they never cussed.

1861
01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:40.520
I didn't hear any any swear words out of them,

1862
01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:44.159
Bob Hope. I mean, you know, on and on. But

1863
01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:48.319
today's yeah comedians, it's like their idea. I mean, this

1864
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:50.319
is the thing that surprised me. I remember one time

1865
01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:55.479
going to a concert of his name was just right

1866
01:43:55.479 --> 01:43:59.199
here on the top of my head. He was very articulate,

1867
01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:02.239
the commander of the Langguage, George Carlin. His command of

1868
01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:06.760
the language was brilliant, but he ended up going down

1869
01:44:06.800 --> 01:44:10.199
the route of a lot of desperate comedians and that

1870
01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:13.439
he you know, he would profusely use the F word.

1871
01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:16.680
And the thing was that was, you know, I wanted

1872
01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:19.279
to stand up and tell the audience say, that is

1873
01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:22.359
not funny. You know. The reason he keeps saying the

1874
01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:25.920
F word is because you laugh, and you know it's

1875
01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:29.399
like what I don't I don't get that, and so

1876
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:33.479
you know that's but outside of that, you know, Carlin

1877
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:35.920
was brilliant, Like I said, his command of the language

1878
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:36.800
was unbelievable.

1879
01:44:37.039 --> 01:44:38.520
Well, I just have to say, I mean, there's a

1880
01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:43.880
reason why people a guy named Nate Bargatzi is doing

1881
01:44:43.920 --> 01:44:47.199
as well as he's doing. Yeah, because it is clean.

1882
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:50.880
He doesn't curse. It can be a little crude, but

1883
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:54.239
the language that he uses to get there is not

1884
01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:57.479
necessarily going to get him would get him dinged if

1885
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:00.720
you were in a movie. The other one is there's

1886
01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:03.760
a reason that Jay Leno, despite his wife's failing health,

1887
01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:06.199
he still goes out occasionally on the road and he

1888
01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:12.000
fills venues. Yes, there's a reason why people like that

1889
01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:14.319
do as well as they do. Now you could also say,

1890
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:16.319
you know, there's a reason great Gutfeld does as well,

1891
01:45:16.920 --> 01:45:19.680
because he's providing the other end of the spectrum, so

1892
01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:23.600
to speak, you know, which, if that's what you're looking for,

1893
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:25.720
that's great. If you're worried about kind of us not

1894
01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:30.960
being in the same collective boat silo, then obviously there's

1895
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some implications to that. But he definitely does look for

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the humor. Whereas yes, with Colbert, I mean him simply

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saying on election Day in twenty twenty four, I was

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walking around proudly wearing my I voted sticker. Today I

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wore my I am questioning my fundamental belief in the

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goodness of humanity sticker. This is democracy. This is democracy

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with a capital duh. And in this democracy the majority

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is spoken. And they said that they don't care much

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about that democracy, like where is the punchline in that

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there's no sort of humor and and I just find

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that kind of ridiculous. I mean, in you know, just

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over calendar year ago, he literally said Republicans can eat

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a blank like like what what?

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What is that?

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In reference to so uh devout Catholic Stephen Colbert who

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used a blank holster to describe Donald Trump in relation

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to Vladimir Putin. Uh is held up as this minister

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of comedy, of truth, of decency. This is that's the thing.

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Bill.

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Nothing these people say they view as political right, Whereas

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we understand and we kind of we like to live

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in the world of honesty. We are you know, we've

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come at this from a perspective. We're going to be

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backed up by facts, but we are definitely making political arguments.

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But they the left too often does not do that,

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They don't engage on those terms.

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Well, uh, they've really destroyed the uh, the foundational principles

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of comedy. Yeah, I mean what they think is comedic,

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you know, it's just it's it's just not funny. And

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especially you know, you get the old axio. I mean,

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why do you want to insult your audience? And you know,

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the country pretty much as it's always been, is fairly divided,

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and so you know, here you had others before Colbert,

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you know, the likes of Johnny Carson for example. I

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mean you didn't really even know, you know, specifically his

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political bent. But in today's genre, it's like, you know,

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we got to know everybody's political bent, as if we

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didn't know already. I mean, we already know that so

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much of television and the media is is commandeered by

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the left, and you get these the imbalances like what

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you've been reporting on you know, ninety percent is negative,

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you know about conservatives and Donald Trump, and then you

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get this, you know, you get this tea that's going

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on like an infection, and you think, what a waste

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of humanity and a waste of you know, otherwise intellectual

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potential that is lost over hatred. And they're the ones

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that have been yelling, you know, stop the hate, stop

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the hate, and you go right civility, Yeah right, look

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in the mirror, okay, can you please right?

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Yeah, the thing about it too. A quick point is

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there's so much in comedy to talk about situational humor,

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familial humor, things that go on in your family, things

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that happen in your workplace, annoying things that annoy you

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out on the road. I mean, there are addless things

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that you could create a world of comedy based upon.

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But the Left has decided that to attract a certain rabid,

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loose sky brigade of clowns out there that they believe

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that leaning into a subset of the country that is

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rapidly connected to the place system, that that is going

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to be a moneymaker or at least makes them happy

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as opposed to appealing to everyone else.

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I got to tell you, I'm surprised because this is

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a management issue. I mean, why would you allow your

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talent to focus on really a minority of the audience.

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I mean, it's no wonder than numbers, you know, demonstrate

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clearly the lack of popularity, likes of Jimmy Kimmel or Colbert.

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I mean, the only thing that raby Kimmel was Donald Trump,

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you know, in going after him, and so it gave

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him another life. But I think in the long run,

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I think his days are numbered. You know, I don't see.

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To me, the funniest part of Jimmy Kimmel is Guermo.

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It costs hundreds of millions of dollars a year bill

1967
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for two hundred people on a staff for a show

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that actually is one hour with commercials, so probably forty

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minutes four days a week, right right, Well, I mean

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that is a business model, just doesn't quite sound like

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its smart investment in terms of sustainability.

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Well, where can they go for more information? They want

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to check it out and see the numbers for themselves?

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Where going to go? Yeah?

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