April 22, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 04 22 26

The Bill Martinez Show 04 22 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 04 22 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, us doing Ill Martinez Live a program about

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current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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It's six minutes after the top. They are great to

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have you with us. Thank you for joining us. I'm

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Bill Martinez, and our guest is doctor Nizamasagi, who joins

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us now that has a most incredible story to share

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with us, not to mention his new book, Passport to Freedom.

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Doctor Missagi. Welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us.

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It's my pleasure to be here. Bill.

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I'm a big fan.

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Thank you so much for Well, that's very kind of you.

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You've born an American citizen raised under Iran's theocracy, and

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of course this is all outlined in your book Past

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Support to Freedom, from Tehran to Triumph.

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Right, that is correct, That is correct. I decided that

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this story needs to be told because it is an

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American dream story at heart, and it is also very

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timely for the story like this to be heard in

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an environment of so many voices competing, where the Iran's story,

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the true story has lived experience, might be lost.

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Yeah, without a doubt. I mean your book the title

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is really the title for much of Tehran. You know,

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fellow citizens who have been living under an oppressive government.

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I mean even now, I mean I've heard numbers forty

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fifty thousand slaughtered than the streets. We spoke with a

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gentleman from Israel who was therein on the ground. He says,

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build the numbers more like in excess of eighty thousand.

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It's hard enough to get your brain around forty thousand

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people being murdered in the streets, much less eighty thousand. Doctor,

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That's exactly right.

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You're referring to the massacre that occurred early in January

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of this year alone. There was a popular rising where

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people by the millions were on the street demanding their

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basic rights, freedoms, right to self determination, and the regime

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just from higher ups decided to open fire. There was

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fire at will, orders that came from the highest levels

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of government. It was very coordinated across hundreds of cities,

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and they shut off the internet so none of the

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protesters could communicate with each other in different cities. And

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next thing you know, there was rivers of blood on

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Tehran and Tabriz and Shiraz and YaST streets all across

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the country of Iran.

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Wow, this is incredible, and of course we hear sadly

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and I've been praying for this young woman who is

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about to be executed as well. And this is quite

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shocking up here on the West. We don't understand how

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women are mistreated anyway there under this regime. But it's

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actually when it comes time for them to execute you,

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I guess all part of the process is a woman

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has to be gang right before she's murdered.

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It is such a difficult thing to speak of, but

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it is necessary to mention these things that under the

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Iran is essentially an Islamist state. It is run by

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people who came to power under the guise of a

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revolution and change after the toppling of the Shah in

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nineteen seventy nine, and soon after it became very clear

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that those who rose to power were going to run

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with these antediluvian laws that belong to a different time,

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the Sharia laws, their version of Islam, which is admittedly

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different than Islam in a lot of other places, nonetheless

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very extremist, and the idea that somehow very may go

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to heaven if executed is the basis for what you

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just stated. That it gives them the authority to create

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these fake temporary marriages where their own agents get to

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violate these women and then subsequently execute them. And this

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is not something that just happened as a tool for

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repression in these days where the uprising had happened. Again,

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this has happened throughout their history forty seven years of

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brutality that they've had. We had in the nineteen eighties,

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very similar stories with political prisoners, especially women receiving this

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kind of treatment, and the raping of political prisoners is

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not limited to women either. We've had situations where at

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Cahrie Zact Detention Center, young men and bottles of coke

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were used to violate them, to embarrass them, and to

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create difficulties, some of them requiring surgery for repair rectal injuries.

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Doctor Sum Again, this is the worst of humanity left

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up to its own own ideas, that this has run amok.

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And I believe, you know, maybe this is all part

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of the judgment. And I don't mean necessarily to throw

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it immediately into some kind of spiritual term, but you know,

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my faith tells me that we serve a just God,

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and God will only tolerate this historically when we look

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at it for a set period of time, although this

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has been forty seven years, and you know, all Iranians,

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all of God's creation, are his children. And I believe

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that maybe this is miss Maybe this is the final straw,

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you know, quite possibly, and if it is, this is

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a total blessing of God that the children of Iran

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would would appreciate and embrace freedom again, because they had

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freedom before. Even though with the shaw I understand in

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the latter years that got a little got a little

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wacky there, but nothing like what happened when the Eye

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Toota came in. And just as you said, and as

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others have told me, Bill, you know, we were told

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a certain thing, you know that what this is, how

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it was going to happen. And of course, slowly but surely,

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the whole orientation got adjusted and it became, as you say,

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very doctrinal.

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Right. Absolutely, history shows us that oppression will not stand forever.

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This will end one way or another, and I hope

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with minimal bloodshed and with a transition to a society

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that can reclaim it's right place in the international community.

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The Iranian people are very significantly against this regime. I

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cannot speak for everyone, but I can tell you that

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the vast majority are not standing with this level of

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brutality and aggression and this ideological warfare that has been

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going on that not only affects them, but has been

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affecting the region, and even within Iranian mythology, within Persian literature,

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you read stories of people like this that come to power,

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and you look for the opportunity for a savior, for

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a warrior to write and bring the people together and

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allow them to overthrow and for them to reclaim their

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freedoms and their rights to self determination. And we have

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so many stories to tell, and I feel that those

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stories are there to give us inspiration so that we

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understand that such systems cannot last forever. It is a

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very difficult situation now in Iran because since the beginning

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of this war, the Islamic Republic has certainly become weakend militarily,

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but it has become more ideologically hardline, and it has

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begun a wave of executions, a wave of arrests, a

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wave of checkpoint and harassment of citizens on the street. Imagine,

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if you're just going to get groceries, they could at

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a checkpoint hold you up, ask you to open up

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your phone. They would look at your pictures, your deleted folders,

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your messages, and if you've sent any information, just simple

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photography of a missile strike site could be akin to

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a crime for which you can be arrested and tried

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for such ridiculous charges as waging war against God or

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assisting enemy states. And so it is an incredibly difficult

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situation that currently for the people has even worsened. And

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perhaps the people are still very hopeful that significant change

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is coming and this is their last effort, but we

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don't know how many there are and how much power

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Hey, we're back with your Bill Martinez. Here with doctor

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Nissam Massagi. He is an author. He's also the chairman

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of the board for the Iran Human Rights Documentation Center,

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where human rights abuses in the Islamic Republic are investigated,

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verified and documented. As I mentioned, doctor Nissam is the

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author of multiple articles in Persian and English that focus

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on human rights and Iran related matters. Doctor Nissam, I

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like you, I think that this is all coming to

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a head. And it's clear, just as you said, the

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oppression has seemed to intensify all the more as it

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would appear that the IRGC, the leadership of Iran, the

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iatola is is kind of with the actions that they're taking.

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These are actions of desperate people, are they not?

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Absolutely?

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You know, they always say that every dictatorship looks strong

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until the last ten to fifteen minutes, and so the

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hope is that they have been significantly weekend.

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The big question.

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Always is you have to follow the money. Are they

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still paying these repressive forces or has there been a

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significant disruption of the banking system all of that to

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not pay them, because once you do that, the defections

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may accelerate. And I feel that and I hope that

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this is happening, that through some back channels, perhaps some

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people within the system are being offered amnesty in exchange

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for information and in exchange for assisting with defections, so

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that the system can crumble inwardly as fast as possible,

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Because it's not only good for the Iranian people who

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are brutalized, but it's also good for the world, the

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region that's been destabilized by a regime that from the

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get go, from the very inception of it had an

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expansionist ideology, from the very inception of it attacked the

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US embassy and it held at first over sixty and

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later fifty two American workers of the embassy hostage, as

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you know, for four hundred and forty four days. That

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shows from the very beginning they had Bellako's policies to begin.

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And even the Iran Iraq War that shortly after that

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began and took a million lives, that lasted for eight years,

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was through the provocations of Ayatola Romani trying to get

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the Shias in Iraq to rise up against the Bath Party,

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and that's how that war started. So so many wars

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that have been invited by the Islamic Republic. So when

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you hear out there in the media that people say, wow,

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this was a war of choice, one thing that we

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have to be very clear of is that this is

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the war of choice by the Islamic Republic. That the

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Islamic Republic invites wars through arming proxies, through inciting violence,

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and through provocations in the region.

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And the world. Well, and as you mentioned the proxies,

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I mean, it's almost like you've got the same model

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that's occurring, whether it's the Gaza which is still controlled

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by Hamas about forty five percent of it. It was

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the last report that I've received. You've got what's going

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on in Iran, also in Lebanon, but it seems that

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the power structure of Lebanon is saying we want Hesbela

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out of here. You know, it's created too much havoc

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and now you've got to cease fire, which is something

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Iran asked for as part of the negotiations currently, they

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wanted to cease fire between Israel and Hesbelah. And it

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seems that some things could be moving in a positive

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direction here. But in either case, whether it's Iran, Hamas Hesbela,

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the hoodies, thank god, have been quiet. They've kept their

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head down. But this is a root issue that needs

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to be that needs to be dug out and dug

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out deep in which you had kind of referred to earlier,

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because you can't allow any part of this kind of

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aided ideology to reconstitute itself. Which isn't to say that

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you'll get one hundred percent out of it, but you've

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got to get as much of the route out of

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there as possible.

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Right, absolutely, and I think within the Iranian society because

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the dissatisfaction with this regime is so significant that when

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it's adequately weekend and when the repressive forces have defected,

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there will be opportunities for the people uprising and taking

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over institutions. I think this will happen. It's bound to happen.

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But as you.

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Mentioned on the Lebanese story, perhaps a lot of the

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listeners may not notice that the Hesbo Law Force, it's

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a paramilitary force within Lebanon that receives hundreds of millions

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of dollars per year from the Islamic Republic in Iran

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to be standing and operating. It is larger than the

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Lebanese military itself. Yes, imagine as much as the islam

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Republic in Iran says, well, no foreign intervention, we don't

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believe this. Nobody should do that to us. They are

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doing it themselves to the Lebanese. They have taken the

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entire country of Lebanon hostage with Hezbolah. So many wars

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have been invited by Hebolah into Lebanese territory that the

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Lebanese people never asked for, and they are hundreds of

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thousands of people strong, a paramilitary force stronger than the

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forces within Lebanon itself, and that's a huge stabilization force

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that is in there, and it's never been quite dealt

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with other than just some skirmishes. Well you throw some rockets,

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we're going to, you know, resist, and Israel has its

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right to defend itself and the situation escalates. But they've

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always said this, the head of the octopus is in Tehran,

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and so there's been an attempt to significantly diminish it.

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But for now they're digging in and they're using economic

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power and pain to the world as a leverage to

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try to bring the war to an end. For them,

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it's all about survival. As long as the war comes

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to an end and they are still in power, they'll

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consider that a win. And so for us, the removal

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would be the win. And so it's kind of a

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battle of unequals.

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Well, what is the vision? What do you see happening?

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Let's say, you know, two three years from now in Iran? First,

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what do you see happening here? Because it looks like

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a regime change is inevitable. I don't know how Iran

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can go on under this current leadership. Like you said,

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if somehow the war ends and they're still in power,

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they're going to say they won and they'll reconstitute. We

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know that.

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Yeah, So it's very hard to predict and speculate, unfortunately,

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and these circumstances, the situation is very fluid. The Islamic

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Republic has shut down the Internet now are going on

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for nearly fifty days straight. Imagine that a lot of

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people's businesses and people's ability to communicate both within and

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to the outside world has been very severely hampered. And

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so part of the worry is what if this goes

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towards creating another North Korea like state where people are

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completely shut out from the rest of the world and

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unable to communicate. I think that's an unlikely scenario because

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the Iranian people have already known had a taste of

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what it's like to engage with the world, be engaged

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with the Internet. The Iranian people are very significantly democratic

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as far as their values, and the Iranian people are

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also very significantly secular. While I cannot speak for the

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majority of Iranians from what I see, and we've been

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reviewing a lot of things that come through back channels,

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like some telegram messaging and whatnot. You see what the

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people have been talking about. A lot of the people

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within Iran, especially the youth, have called the name of

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the former crown Prince as a transitional leader to come help.

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That would be Reza Pahlavi that they have significant trust

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in and he is a name that cannot be confiscated

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like other slogans that they had previously said by the

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Islamic Republic as a significant change and shift from them.

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And you don't see religious conversations and terminology, especially used

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by the young population that are very significantly secular, and

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so the system cannot be farther from the people, and

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so something's got to give. How it's going to happen,

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in my opinion is the Western intervention has significantly weakened

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them and so it's up to the Iranian people to

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finish the job. But I feel that they have to

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have some assurances that they will have some support, perhaps

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air support, where if they were to take to the

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streets they would not be slaughtered again. And so if

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an opportunity like this happens, I think that we may

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see a free Iran and Iran that would potentially contry

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so much to the world economy and to knowledge and

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to innovation.

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My goodness, can you imagine, I mean the whole global

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I mean, this would have an impact on the entire globe,

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you know, because you know, it just would. It would,

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because it would just be And that's what we hope

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and pray for.

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Now.

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With the Crown Prince, I know his name comes up,

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there's still mixed emotions because I hear also from Iran

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they're not looking for another monarchy, you know that they

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really want to secure, you know, some form of democracy,

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but possibly the Crown Prince because he's the noted name

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and it could be that transformational figure that gets them

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to where ultimately the people of Iran want to be.

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Is that what you see?

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Yeah, he himself has also said I am not seeking

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the throne. It is up to the Iranian people. I

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feel that my job is to be a leader of

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a transitional government and he as he has online resources

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where you can see his team and the plans that

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they have for the first ninety up to one hundred

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and eighty days. And the final goal of this transitional

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government is to bring Iran to a referendum, a referendum

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that is seen and overseen by outside agencies that are

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independent to ensure that there's no corruption in it, and

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then have the people speak. And he himself has said

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my vote is for a republic. He's said this multiple times.

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And the idea is that even if the people were

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to choose something like a constitutional monarchy, it would not

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be far away from democratic ideals because.

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We have so many countries in the world that are

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like that.

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Nonetheless, if the will of the people is to simply

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have a constitution and a republic that's representative of the

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will of the people, that would already be a success.

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Whether or not there is a king or not, I

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think is a complete irrelevance at this point. What is

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very relevant is that we need to have that transition

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to occur with an authority to lead us to a

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referendum for the people to speak.

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Exactly well, doctor Nizamazagi, thank you so much for being

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with us. He's the author of Passport to Freedom from

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Tehran to Triumph. Need to have you back because I

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want to talk more about your book, but because of

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the current events and what's happening, iron course your book

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is appropriate as well, but I want to get into

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more of your story. So the next time we have

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you back, I hope that we can discuss more details

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about your story and the book and the vision that

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you have for Iran going forward.

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Okay, absolutely, Bill, thank you so much for the opportunity.

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I look forward to meeting again.

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Welcome back to America. Bill Martinez here. Good to Heppy

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within us. Also great to have Jennibeth Martin from the

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Tew Party Papers Action Jennybeth, Good morning, Jam.

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Good morning. Though it's so great to be with you.

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He always go to be here with you. Of course.

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First of all, I want to talk about it. I

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ran because it's it's in the headlines, and you know,

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we've got negotiations underway. You know, we're praying that it

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all goes well. But this is a group of people

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that only know about war, and it seems now that

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the military has full control of you know, of Iran

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and these negotiations and the IRGC as you have had,

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you and I have discussed before. They're not going to

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just set down there. You know, their weapons. I mean,

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they don't know about that. This is a death cult

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and this is going to be a fight to the finish.

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So I believe America psychologically has to prepare itself for

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the fact that Donald Trump and the Secretary of War

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have got to go in and.

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Finish the job, right, Yeah, they have to go finish

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a job. And the American people are actually with us

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on that. We pulled on that back in February right

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after the attack happened, and the majority of Americans agreed

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that because American lives lives ultimately are at risk and

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people Americans have already died because of Iran, want we

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want it finished so that more Americans do not die.

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And John McLaughlin used that same question recently in polling

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again and this time in the April polling. I guess

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we did it, and you know, we did it in February.

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He did it in April, and it's still the American

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public is still there with us with the exact same

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questions we use before. They want the job finished. It

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needs to finish. They've killed I think over one thousand

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Americans over the last forty nine years. It's too many.

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They do not need to be doing that.

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And you're right, they are a deaf cult, and this

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is they've grown up.

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They've just been so completely indoctrinated in that that they

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only respond to one kind of language, and that is

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a language of.

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Force, right. And this is a percentage like anything, you know,

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any kind of totalitarian ruling regime, it's a small percentage

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of people, you know, compared to everybody else. And especially

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when Iran has no way to defend itself, this is

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why they've sustained losses. I mean, I'm hearing Jenny Beth.

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I know people in the mainstream media are quoting numbers

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like forty fifty thousand, but I'm hearing from Iran itself

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that over eighty thousand people have been mowed down. It's

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just disgusting. And then there was a woman here in

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this past week, and this was shocking to hear what

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they do with these women when they murder them, you know,

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when they've been convicted of, you know, being against the

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government like that wrestler. But the women especially, they violate

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them in ways you can't even imagine. I mean, it's

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so barbaric. I mean, these are the kind of people

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that we're up against. And meanwhile, you've got Democrats like

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Chris Murphy who are kind of cheering on you know, Iran,

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00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:58.400
like you know, the straight of horror moves. There's something

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that didn't happen there, according till hoil or Away was reported,

563
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and he was just elated that there was some report

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that would make our military and our president look bad.

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Yeah, it's Bill. It's so frustrating.

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This is not how we're supposed to react when America

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is at war.

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You're not supposed to cheer the loss of American life.

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You're not supposed to cheer the loss.

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Of American military or because in that sense, you're encouraging.

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And cheering the loss of your own country.

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When President Obama got the person that got Osama bin Laden,

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that happened under President Obama's watch, I wasn't upset about that.

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I was thankful.

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It didn't matter that it was Obama who I disagreed

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with on ninety eight percent of maybe even ninety nine

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00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.119
point nine percent of domestic policy is use. That's a

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00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:05.079
slight exaggeration. I'm sure there was some more agreement than that, but.

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I disagreed with him on almost all domestic policy situations.

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But I still when he did that and he got

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Osama bin Laden, that was something I could be thankful

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for as an American because of what happened.

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On nine to eleven.

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I didn't let my anger towards the president on domestic

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policies cloud my judgment on what's best for our country

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when enemies want to kill us and Bill, I've always

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been very careful not to use the freeze enemies against

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my political opposition here in America, because I think that

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America has only one set of enemies, and those are

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the enemies from foreign from foreigners, from foreign countries, from foreign.

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Entities who wish us dead.

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That's what I think of when I think of an enemy,

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and I am very careful about it, and and I

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00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:05.880
do that so that I remember the people who I

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disagree with, who I live in the country with. They're

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the people I have to still be able to get

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along with because they're my fellow countrymen.

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And it's a mental.

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It's the mental exercise, if you will, to just make

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sure I'm keeping my focus where it should be. And

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I'm not dehumanizing and not over exaggerating the people with

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whom I disagree.

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Who live next door to me. And I think I'm

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not perfect. I make all sorts of mistakes.

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00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.239
I think it is something many who are involved in

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00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.480
politics would benefit if they use.

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That same rule.

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Now, sometimes an email may slip out, or a social

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media post may slip out somewhere along the way that

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one of our team members wrote that accidentally uses that word.

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But we do our very best not.

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To use that.

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And I think mostly and this is probably a discipline

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more that happens on the right. And I'm like you,

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I try to withhold you know, this description of left

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and right and Democrats and Republicans. You know, I think

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of American and of course what American are anti American.

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And this is what Justice Thomas was referring to here

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recently when he talked about progressivism, that it is an

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ideology that wants to counter our constitution. Well, you still

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have to identify, okay, who's on our side and by

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our side, I'm talking about who is who still believes

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in the American dream and the American idea and clearly

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living amongst us, we have people that have abandoned that

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and they really I mean, here we are on the

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verge of celebrating our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, Jenny Beth,

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we have so much to be thankful for, and we

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have people who are doing their best undermine you know,

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this president and the policies that what he's been able

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to do in the first year are just short of miraculous.

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Yeah, they truly are short of miraculous. You're you are

632
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.239
right that there are people who are undermining it. They're

633
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.800
ignoring what he's done. They don't want to acknowledge what

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he's done. I think even when it comes to Iran

635
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into Venezuela, they are ignoring the importance.

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Of what he is doing with that.

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And Bill, I am not a foreign policy expert, and

638
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I am not a military expert, and I acknowledge that

639
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I'm not that. What I see that he is doing

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is he's making sure that this communist country that is

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not very far from our country is not able to

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harm America and they and it's not able to give

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China and Russia a launchpad to to aimings at America.

644
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That is taking care of America, that is putting America first.

645
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It may not be taking care of some potholes somewhere

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here in America, but it is making sure that America

647
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as a whole is much safer than we were when President.

648
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Trump went into office.

649
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And he's doing the same thing with Iran right now.

650
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We've dealt with this country for nearly fifty years, and

651
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they wish us harm, they wish us dead, and.

652
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He's just saying, no, We're going to end this problem

653
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once and for all.

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Now.

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The difficulty that he faces is that there are people

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on both sides of the political aisle who want this over.

657
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We're so addicted to social media, we think everything happens

658
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:50.400
in nanoseconds, and they want it over at the snap

659
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of their finger. Well, that's not how military conflicts work.

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And that's not how military conflicts work when.

661
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You're dealing with a death cult.

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And we can either take care of the problem, finish it,

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and get the job done right, or we can have

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invested this money this time and this American blood, because

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we have been thirteen people so far who have died

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for this very righteous cause not get it right, and

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all of that will be at waste, and we continue

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to deal with a problem or we can acknowledge that

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President Trump truly does love this country and is trying

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that's what I think the President is doing as he's

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Hey, welcome back, glad you could join us. Bill Martinez

754
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.960
here with the vice president of Operations with Numbers USA, Jim.

755
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.239
Rod Jim, Good morning, Good morning, Bill.

756
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:19.239
Well, I'll tell you a lot continues to be discussed here.

757
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:24.360
We got ten Republicans reportedly have joined every House Democrat

758
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.880
to vote to extend a temporary backdoor amnesty program last week.

759
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:33.079
What is going on, Well, it's all about cheap labor. Unfortunately,

760
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:35.840
it's always about cheap labor, right, and of.

761
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.360
Course heading into the midterms, then there's that is influencing

762
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:40.960
their decision as well, right.

763
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:46.079
Right, So, I mean the Democrats, unfortunately, have become just

764
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.239
very reliable. Anything Trump wants they're against. And I mean

765
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.280
it's not that everything Trump wants is great. It's just

766
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.360
that if you're always going to vote opposite of the

767
00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.840
other guy, you know you're going to be wrong as

768
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.320
often as you're right, no matter what. Right, and and

769
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:05.480
but and this and then and then the Republicans who

770
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:11.440
are voting with them are they're in districts that that

771
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.119
they may lose their race this fall, and they're desperate.

772
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.119
So it's all political, but the economics behind it is

773
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.639
really kind of shameful because you know, the these these

774
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:26.199
Haitians are here on something called temporary protected status.

775
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:31.280
Now temporary it started in twenty ten for this, right,

776
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:34.320
I mean, I don't know.

777
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:38.159
When I open up my dictionary, Bill and you your dictionary,

778
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:43.199
and we look up the word temporary is sixteen years

779
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:44.760
usually conn.

780
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:48.280
Well, that's like Ron Reagan when he's talking about the bureaucracy, right,

781
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.960
that's the closest thing to eternal life in government is

782
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.920
anything that's a bureaucracy and temporary.

783
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.519
We know that, so, right, And it's it started with.

784
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.159
Let's see, what was it like fifty thousand or so

785
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.960
haitians a year, and then it's now it's up to

786
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.760
three hundred and fifty thousand. And here's the thing. How

787
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:11.320
you become in the TPS, as they call the Temporary

788
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:14.599
Protected Services. Now, that's a law that created that. That's

789
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.800
still let people who've had like a storm on their

790
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.440
island come over here for a couple of years until

791
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.599
it gets the island gets back on its feet. And

792
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.079
Congress very generously said, while you're here, you can get

793
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.119
a temporary work permit. Well, they everyone envisioned a couple

794
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.519
of years, send you back and at least you don't

795
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:33.039
starve to death in the meantime. Right, But of course,

796
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.280
this the work permit is the irresistible lure. And the

797
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:41.039
only way, generally speaking, the way you become eligible for

798
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.360
TPS is to already be an illegal immigrant. So people

799
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:47.239
are like coming illegally to the country and then they're

800
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.960
they're getting this automatic designation, well not automatic, but they're

801
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.159
applying for TPS, and they say, I am from Haitia,

802
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.480
a Haiti, and we've got this this awful earthquake that

803
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:59.280
happened sixteen years ago.

804
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.159
It's like nobody even there even remembers it. It's like

805
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:09.400
it's so it's bizarre. But the that the sad thing is, uh,

806
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:11.880
it's the lack of imagination. Bill.

807
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:16.480
People can't imagine that that that we now that we

808
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.519
have these cheap, cheap workers, and you know, there are

809
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:21.599
a lot in the healthcare industry of the Haitians and

810
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.199
they do a very good job. No one I'm complaining

811
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:26.920
about them, but this just is more Americans that can't

812
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.760
get those jobs. Now, now, I just want to say

813
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.320
this one thing and Mark Warner, Senator Mark Warner, who's uh,

814
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.039
you know, kind of a moderate Democrat, and we're really

815
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.119
very actually we're very thinking about him and his family,

816
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.000
very sad, and he had a he had a daughter

817
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:46.679
that uh that passed away this week from diabetes.

818
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.039
So it's terrible. So not here to complain about him,

819
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:51.800
but to just echo what he said.

820
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:52.519
Uh.

821
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.880
Very recently, he said on an interview that hey, uh,

822
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:01.880
college graduates there that that that thirty percent of the

823
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:06.480
jobs may be taken by AI in the in the

824
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:07.199
near future.

825
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:11.119
So he was warning college graduates don't count on a job.

826
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.679
And now in Warner, and Warner knows what he's talking about.

827
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.639
I mean, you're talking. He's he's a former tech entrepreneur,

828
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.599
so he understands what's going on here in the trajectory right.

829
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.360
Right, And he was talking he said, he was talking

830
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.079
to industry executives throughout you know, American industry, and they

831
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.639
just said, hey, look this, somehing's going to eat up

832
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.039
these lower end jobs like help desk, et cetera.

833
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:39.840
You know, it's it's like so so squeezed.

834
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.800
So American workers are squeezed on two ends. The jobs

835
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:47.760
that are like maybe entry level jobs for college graduates,

836
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:50.920
AI is going to gobble them up, says Warner. And

837
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.960
then we know with things like this TPS thing for

838
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.800
Haitians and other groups. So we've got you know, more

839
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.800
than a million people from various countries that are here

840
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.599
on kind of permanent semi where they're.

841
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.079
It's legal status. They got here illegally.

842
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.639
And so American workers are getting pushed out of low

843
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:16.440
end jobs, better entry level college type jobs. And meanwhile,

844
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.559
the amounts of American workers, especially American men who are

845
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:25.079
a prime age in the in the workforce, that are

846
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.760
have a job or seeking a job, has gone down, down,

847
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:29.440
down for sixty years in a row.

848
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.199
Right, you see. And then the college it's not only that,

849
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:34.920
then they're carrying one hundred thousand dollars in tuition debt.

850
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.960
And it's no wonder this idea of socialism seems appealing

851
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:39.480
to them.

852
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.159
Right, It's like everyone's rigged the system. People make promises

853
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.360
if you go and you get this degree, then you're

854
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:50.480
going to have a middle class life. And yet they

855
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:52.559
not only don't have a middle class life, they can't

856
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.519
even get a job. So and yet there's no way

857
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:56.840
to get out of that college debt.

858
00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.800
And the government has done this to them. Jim, Yeah,

859
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.920
I mean that's the deal. The government has done this

860
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.880
to them by allowing for these things and not even

861
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.559
you know, looking at you know, how this is going

862
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:12.679
to play out. And here's Warner, a Democrat senator who

863
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.840
sees it, and he's throwing up the alert to everybody.

864
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:18.559
But you know, he can say, well, I told you

865
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:20.559
about it fifteen years ago. Yeah, but what did you

866
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:22.239
do about it? Yeah?

867
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.679
Well, there's the problem.

868
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.880
The it's it's like, as we've talked about many, many times, Bill,

869
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:35.840
it's America is hooked on cheap labor. And so George Meenie,

870
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:41.000
who founded the afl CIO, the labor union all those

871
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:44.320
years ago, he said, you know, if you pay bicycle wages,

872
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:48.920
you're going to have a bicycle economy. And truer words

873
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:49.519
never said.

874
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:49.960
Right.

875
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.519
And yet the whole, the whole might and thrust of

876
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:58.119
American industry has been to bid down labor, bid down labor,

877
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.320
pay as little as possible, first hint of trouble, lay

878
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.639
off all the workers. We got to have some loyalty

879
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:06.880
in this country, don't you think, Bill?

880
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:07.400
Yeah?

881
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:11.840
But again, looking at it holistically, Jim, you know, businesses

882
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:16.679
are being bombarded with regulation, costs, taxes and all this other. See,

883
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.400
so all this puts pressure and so you know what

884
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.000
Trump is trying to address is to liberate these businesses,

885
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.480
get these regulations out of there, give them some relief.

886
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:28.559
I mean, here it is, we get that we passed

887
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:33.199
the big beautiful bill, right, and here's American citizens have

888
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:37.559
this windfall. I mean, the income returns, the money that

889
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:41.119
they're getting is you know, they're high fiving. I mean,

890
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.440
they're able to go out to dinner again and enjoy

891
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.440
themselves a little bit. And then in some of the

892
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.760
blue states, these governors and the local legislators are going,

893
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.400
wait a minute, you can't have that money. That's our money,

894
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.719
you know what I mean. I mean it sounds silly,

895
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:58.960
It sounds silly, but that's the way they think. I mean,

896
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.360
I came for I grew up in California. I grew

897
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:02.840
up with this all the time, and it took me

898
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:05.519
a number of years to finally realize. They go, no wonder.

899
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.679
I mean, at every turn, whether it's the price of

900
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.360
gas and everything is all reflected the cost of living

901
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:17.119
in California. Because of the uniparty, the Democratic Party that

902
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:18.920
controls that state, they've destroyed it.

903
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:20.280
Yeah.

904
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:24.280
Well, and then the thing that Trump could do easily

905
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.639
and or could have done easily, maybe it's a little

906
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.000
harder to getting near the midterms. But he hasn't done

907
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.880
is get Congress to pass mandatory everify Yes, every US employer,

908
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.599
you don't have to round people up if they can't

909
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:41.880
get a job. A lot of times they'll just go home.

910
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.000
Right, Yeah, they'll self deport, you know, but you have

911
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.559
to give them a reason and let them know where

912
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.639
the door is and how they can exit. You don't

913
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:50.719
have to pay him money.

914
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.639
Right, No, right, A lot of times.

915
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.440
I mean we if we provide them a plane ticket home,

916
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.960
which we do, it's it's if they can't get a job,

917
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.800
they're gonna remember, you know. Actually when I left Columbia

918
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:06.679
ten years ago, there were no jobs. But I've getting

919
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.039
some reports there's some you know, things a little better there.

920
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:11.599
Maybe I can get a job there, and people, hey,

921
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.400
people are going home. It's just they would go home

922
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.559
a lot faster and more readily without coercion if they

923
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:19.360
just couldn't get.

924
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:19.760
A job here.

925
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.719
So I don't know, Well, I guess it's it's it's

926
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:26.480
some businesses lobbying to because they want illegal labor.

927
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:27.440
This is the thing.

928
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.960
Even a lot of these Republican state governments, as you know, Bill, shamefully,

929
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:35.719
they want illegal labor because everyone nobody wants to pay

930
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.639
pay money for something theing get for near free. Yeah,

931
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:43.000
it's it's the same. It's the same low human impulse

932
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:47.480
that got a slavery, uh to the Civil War. It's like, uh,

933
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:50.519
now a lot of people knew it was wrong, but

934
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.679
they said, oh, but I just can't afford to get

935
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:53.000
out of it.

936
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.480
Well yeah, they're so far into it they don't know

937
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:57.039
how to get out of it. But that's why you've

938
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.559
got to incentivize the right behavior. You do, you do

939
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:02.559
either verify and you give relief to these bit to say, okay,

940
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:05.639
look at there's going to be some adjustments some of

941
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.239
these regulations that have been killing your bottom line. We're

942
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:09.920
going to get rid of these regulations. I mean Trump

943
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:12.800
was massive. I mean he attacked the regulations when in

944
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.599
his first administration he used to say for everyone, we're

945
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:16.920
going to get rid of ten. And I think it

946
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:20.079
got up. You know, according to one of the experts

947
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.440
inside the administration, Peter Navarro told me, he says, Bill,

948
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.840
it was we were getting rid of eighteen regulations for

949
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:30.360
every new one and so and still Trump is still

950
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.280
considered about that. But again, you know, this whole idea

951
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:38.400
you verify regulations, regulatory costs for businesses. All these things

952
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.199
have to be considered, and there's got to be a

953
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:43.719
meeting of the minds in business to say, look at

954
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:46.480
get this out of your mind about cheap labor.

955
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.840
You know, there's actually some of them are quietly trying

956
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.880
to get there, a few of them, and they got

957
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:54.480
us banned.

958
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:54.840
Together.

959
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:58.280
People have to decide because a lot of them are

960
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.440
realizing that you can't beat the first in the world

961
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.320
businesses around the world with just the bottom of the

962
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:10.000
barrel labor. Yes, we have we have a great educational

963
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:13.440
system here. We've got the trained workers here. Why on

964
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.519
the sideline to bring in people who who really are

965
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.280
not even in a developed country, they're not from adul country,

966
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.079
they don't have first world skills.

967
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:24.440
We've got them here.

968
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.840
Yeah. Plus plus the work ethic itself, right, I mean

969
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.079
you go to Europe and these people, oh, we're going

970
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.199
to take a whole month off. I mean, that's unheard

971
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:35.440
of here in America. Take an entire month off, I

972
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.159
don't think so. You know, well, unless unless you work

973
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:39.800
for the government, then you can take a whole month off.

974
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.159
By some measures, America is the hardest working people in

975
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.840
the world that in terms of work hours worked, a

976
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.199
lot of us, like standard Measures, were the most productive

977
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:55.079
workers in the world. So, uh, that means we do

978
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:58.800
it the best of anyone. So we don't need people

979
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:01.280
just to come in so we can hirem a quarter cheaper.

980
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.280
But they don't. They weren't raised in that culture, that

981
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:07.039
the American work culture. So I don't know.

982
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.360
It's sometimes people are their own worst enemies and really built.

983
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.840
This is why we need a government because sometimes doing

984
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.239
the right thing is just hard to do and people

985
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.280
aren't willing to take that set by themselves.

986
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:19.920
So you need a government, But you.

987
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.519
Need a government that leads by example and does the

988
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.880
right thing themselves. If they do the right thing, then

989
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:28.920
we will, you know, we'll follow. But if you're cheating

990
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:31.360
and stealing and committing fraud and everything, guess what.

991
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:36.639
Yeah, well that's right. You've got to you've got to

992
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.079
have a clean government so people will want to follow it.

993
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.840
Right, So that's the first thing. And then and then

994
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:43.239
second thing, that's that's right.

995
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.800
The government has to seem has to make it clear

996
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:47.800
that it's on the side of its workers.

997
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:48.480
Yeah.

998
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:52.519
Also, it's businesses, right, you know, it's it's really on

999
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.480
the side. I mean it's there's there's no question that's

1000
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:57.760
on the side of business. But is it on the

1001
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.440
side of its workers. Well, the workers are the voter. Wow,

1002
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:01.800
why not be on their side too?

1003
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:04.119
Exactly, Jim Rob. We got to leave it there. Thank

1004
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.639
you for the time. He's Numbers USA Vice President for Alliances.

1005
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.199
Jim Rob, Thank you, Jim, take care, Thank you, Bill,

1006
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Six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now

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it is time for the emergency room.

1029
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Doc.

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00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.559
Yes, the one and only doctor Richard Bartler joins a

1031
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down Hey doctor, b how are we doing?

1032
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:35.599
Hey, Bill Martinez, It's an honor to be with you today.

1033
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.880
Well, I'll tell you lots to catch up on our

1034
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:43.320
good buddy. RFK Junior has been giving him hell in Congress.

1035
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:47.639
I mean it's been it's been a marathon of you know,

1036
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:50.639
oversight from these congressional committees.

1037
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:50.920
Huh.

1038
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.719
Well, it's a it's a kangaroo court, it's a circus

1039
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:58.400
every time they get together. He's actually trying to make

1040
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:03.239
America healthy again. And it's real simple. He wants patients

1041
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:05.480
to have patient rights in the United States, and that

1042
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:11.679
includes informed consent. And I've talked to him in private

1043
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:15.000
many times, and his heart is that the parents can

1044
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:18.480
handle the truth that the American people can handle the truth.

1045
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.360
That's his message, right, and so he wants the American

1046
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:26.000
people to hear informed consent, their basic patient right to

1047
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:29.360
know the risk and the benefits of all treatment plans,

1048
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:33.159
and to let the parents decide what's best for their children,

1049
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.800
to let the patients decide what's best for their bodies.

1050
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:40.079
And this is really the law of the land, but

1051
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:43.639
it has been usurped for many decades. And so he's

1052
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:47.320
trying to right the ship right now. And so we

1053
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.920
have a real hero in Robert Kennedy Junior.

1054
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:54.119
Yeah. I think what we've been talking about this since

1055
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:57.360
day one, Doctor B is that the whole system is

1056
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:01.679
so mired with with conflicting missions.

1057
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:02.599
You know.

1058
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:08.719
RFK Junior clearly is about making America healthy again, if

1059
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:10.960
we ever were really actually, if you think about it.

1060
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:14.719
But regardless, his mission the hill to conquer is, Hey,

1061
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:18.960
let's get healthy. So by doing that, let's eliminate all

1062
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.840
the things that are interfering and conflicting with good health.

1063
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:27.639
And unfortunately, because all things are political these days, especially

1064
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:31.119
is he's got to get the fingers off of these

1065
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:35.039
off of the power structure that's controlling these decisions and

1066
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:40.079
influencing and contributing to all these things that are deleterious

1067
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:43.840
to our health. Right, I mean that's the bottom line, right,

1068
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:44.320
And so.

1069
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.599
He wants people to eat real food, and what does

1070
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:48.079
that mean?

1071
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.400
You know that sounds silly at the begining onset, but

1072
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:55.599
the reality is when I studied the COVID shot information,

1073
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.559
when I scoured the FDA and CDC websites at the

1074
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.199
beginning of the COVID shot being released, it actually had

1075
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:08.360
wording verbiage at the website saying that the ingredients of

1076
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:13.719
the COVID shots are basically food products. Oh really, wow,

1077
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.519
s M one O two A chemical product that's in

1078
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.519
all the Maderna shots. That's that the OSHA Safety Data

1079
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:25.320
Sheet says is not for human or veterinary use, for

1080
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:26.480
research use only.

1081
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:28.800
Is a food product? Oh really?

1082
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:33.000
ALC dash zero three one five Does that sound like

1083
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:36.159
a food product? That's in every Fizer COVID shot and

1084
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:40.679
it's according to the OSHA Safety Data Sheet is not

1085
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.079
for human or veterinary use. That's not a food product.

1086
01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.880
When when our case says things that are so profound

1087
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.639
as we need people to eat real food, what does

1088
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:51.079
that mean?

1089
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.039
It means chemicals that.

1090
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:58.280
Are outlawed in Europe in their food supply should not

1091
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:01.400
be on the tables and at the restaurants in the

1092
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:04.400
United States for the last twenty years. And so there's

1093
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:09.119
over a thousand chemicals that are outlawed in Europe for

1094
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:12.639
decades now that are allowed in our food supply in

1095
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:15.280
the United States. So RFK is pushing back and saying

1096
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:22.760
this insanity, this playing word games and giving misinformation will

1097
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.079
not fly on his watch. And he has been fighting

1098
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:35.760
against the controlled opposition that is in the institutions that

1099
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:39.320
have been captured prior to him getting in, and so

1100
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.400
he's making great progress, but it's not easy for him,

1101
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.239
and I appreciate him not giving up.

1102
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:48.039
Yeah, exactly. Well, I think more and more people, but

1103
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:51.280
we need larger numbers of people to realize that what

1104
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.760
these institutions have done, doctor Baz. They've turned us all

1105
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.119
into labrats, have they not?

1106
01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:58.599
I mean absolutely the bigs some.

1107
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:00.760
Part of some grand experiment or is it just all

1108
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:01.400
about money?

1109
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:05.159
Both. You can get a lot of people to cooperate

1110
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:11.119
for money. And so the fact is, by definition, emergency

1111
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:16.039
use authorization by the FDA EUA approval of the COVID

1112
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:19.960
shots is a human experiment in real time. That's what

1113
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.760
emergency use authorization is. That's not the same as FDA approved.

1114
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:28.639
That is emergency use authorization is for human experimentation in

1115
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.079
real time. And so the largest human experiment in the

1116
01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:36.000
history of the world occurred with the COVID shots worldwide,

1117
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:40.800
and it literally was, by definition a human experiment. Many

1118
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.159
people got a placebo and we're never told that, we'll

1119
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.440
never know that. They thought they were cooperating with the

1120
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.599
government when the government said your body, our choice, the

1121
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.719
government's choice, right. They thought they were cooperating with their

1122
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:59.199
employers when the employer said your body the employer's choice,

1123
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:00.960
and if you don't it, you will get fired.

1124
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:03.039
That literally happened in the United States.

1125
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:06.639
How was that cooperation When you are coerced.

1126
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:10.440
It was coercion, It was manipulation, it was bullying, It

1127
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:14.280
was out and out lying. Because we had the CDC director,

1128
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.039
Rochelle Wallinski say, if you get the COVID shot, you

1129
01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:17.840
won't get COVID.

1130
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.639
We had Anthony Fausci.

1131
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:22.760
Say the same We had the President of the United States,

1132
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:27.440
President Biden, say the same thing. We had news anchors

1133
01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.199
say the same thing. The exact same words were used

1134
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:33.960
in the exact same marketing propaganda, and.

1135
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:38.159
You had celebrities, celebrities reinforcing it, people that we used

1136
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.480
to look up to, coming in that we needed to

1137
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.639
be vaccinated. And then then the next thing, you know,

1138
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.519
you had neighbor to neighbor pressure, you know, because you

1139
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:48.760
weren't wearing a mask and you didn't get vaccinated.

1140
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:54.960
The opposite of that is patient rights, constitutional rights, freedom

1141
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.440
of assembly, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and all

1142
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:05.440
of those were suspended during COVID and so that is

1143
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:09.800
not going to happen on RFK Junior's watch, and so

1144
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:13.000
things to watch for. By the way, the other side

1145
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:17.559
is not idle, you know, Pfeiser. It was reported that

1146
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:21.000
Pfizer made thirty six billion dollars in twenty twenty two

1147
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:24.000
alone when the when their COVID shot was out, and

1148
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.519
that Maderna made eighteen point three billion dollars in twenty

1149
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:32.400
twenty two alone when their COVID shot came out. And

1150
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:37.280
eventually we had a we had Anthony foul should be

1151
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:41.960
a co author of a paper that was published in

1152
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:47.880
twenty twenty four saying that the current vaccines are not

1153
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:54.199
effective for respiratory viruses. What after the fact after those

1154
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:55.800
have been out for a couple of years. He's a

1155
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:57.800
co author of a paper that says that.

1156
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:03.039
And yet still you'll if you'll go into.

1157
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:07.199
A chain pharmacy, you'll probably hear overhead we have the

1158
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:08.119
latest booster.

1159
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.840
Line up, roll up your sleeve. Act like a lemur,

1160
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:13.239
act like you.

1161
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:17.119
Know, just obey orders like a cow going through the

1162
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:22.760
to get vaccinated, to get to get mastrated, to get branded.

1163
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:27.800
Just line up blindly like a sheep to get sheared.

1164
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:32.800
And so they're not saying safe and effective except it

1165
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:37.000
can cause mild carditis, it can cause strokes, can cause

1166
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:42.440
heart attacks, can cause autoimmune disorders, autoimmune hepatitis, that it's

1167
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:46.599
associated with over twelve hundred and fifty diseases the Advisor

1168
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:51.800
listed associated with their product when the federal judge forced

1169
01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:57.559
the FDA to release that information to the public health

1170
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:02.239
and Medical Professionals for Transparency nonprofit organization. I'm on the

1171
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:04.280
board of that, So I'm well aware of that because

1172
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.880
I was in that courthouse that day, and so you know,

1173
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:10.360
here's something that people need to know today.

1174
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:12.119
Well, before we go there, let's go, let's go to

1175
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:13.599
quick break. We'll pick it up on the other side.

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Nutrition for Patriots.

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Richard Bartlett.

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He is the emergency room medical director, Doctor B. I'm

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sorry we had to go to quick break, but all right,

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so let's pick up what what did you find out?

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Go ahead, let's let's equip uh, let's equip the viewers

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right now. Yes, must must read if you're if you

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have children or grandchildren that are looking at vaccines and

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the pediatricians are uh not giving informed consent by the

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book by Aaron Siri s I r I. The book

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is called Vaccines Amen. It's available on Amazon, and get

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that for your children and grandchildren before you make a decision.

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Get informed because there are children who are permanently damaged

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and children who have died as a result of vaccines,

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and so you want to be informed before you make

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that decision to give the vaccine. It's important for parents

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to make informed decisions. And so if you want to

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be equipped, then get vaccines Amen, vaccines Amen from Aaron Series.

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Second thing, there's a free documentary online called an Inconvenient

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Study dot com. An Inconvenient Study dot com.

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This is well done.

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It's an excellent documentary. It's very eye opening and you'll

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be the most educated person in your family during Thanksgiving

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if you will watch that, or during the fourth of July,

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which is coming up. And so this matters because your

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children are priceless. This matters because your body is the

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most valuable thing that you have. You can get a

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new car, but you can't get a new body. And

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so before you make a healthcare decision that could be

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permanently devastating or lethal, you need to know all the

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risk and the benefits. So get informed. And so for

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parents making decisions, they can go to the FDA package

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insert website for any vaccine and it'll list online it'll

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list the contraindications. Everybody that should not get this shot

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because it could be lethal, it could be permanently disabling.

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And so this is on every medication package insert. But

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it's also the other day I went to CVS pharmacy

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and I asked the pharmacist, would you please give me

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the package insert for the COVID shot. He said yes,

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but I'll need it back because I use it all

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the time. He was from another country, by the way,

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oh wow, and so he had a strong accent, but

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very very kind guy. And so he handed me the

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package insert after he went to the refrigerator. On it

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says in bold letters, intentionally blank. It's glued shot. I

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open it up and it's blank, a two foot by

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three foot piece of paper, blank both sides, except it

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says intentionally blank in one spot.

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I showed that to him, and I says, this is

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what you use all the time.

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It's redacted.

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It's still twenty in April twenty twenty six. They are

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still making sure they move the merchandise off the shelf

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before it expires. Of the past Maderna shots is what

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that was, which is Bill Gates, who is documented on

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a major morning TV show on mainstream media to say,

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concerning the COVID shots, this is the best investment I

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ever made. Does that sound like someone who's following the

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science or is that some or does that fit with

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the saying follow the money.

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I may follow the money easily, no doubt about this

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is you know, and you bring up a good point

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I hadn't even thought about it, is that all these

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COVID vaccines that are on the shelf expiring. You know,

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it's a wonder they don't start having a two for

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one sale. They're pushing it all the time.

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I think probably we will see that soon, a two

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for one sale. I'm just guessing that you're probably being

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I think that's inspiration, because it's all about moving the merchandise.

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Of course, and it's all about the money. Follow the money.

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And so I challenge anybody to go to a CBS

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pharmacy right now and ask for the COVID shot package

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insert and see if you're getting the one that they're

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trying to move before it expires, that is that still

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has a package insert that's intentionally blank. And you know

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what a package inserts do. They are used by doctors

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and nurses and pharmacists all the time it has the

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latest risk, the benefits, who should get it, who should

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not get it, that's contraindications, the ingredients, the results of

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the studies of the different possible complications. You know, just

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for the MMR, the measles, mumps and rubella shot, that's

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01:16:56.039 --> 01:17:00.520
that's live viruses. Nobody's told that those are live measles viruses.

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Those are live mumps viruses, and those live measles viruses

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in the vaccine can cause transverse myelitis paralysis from the

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waist down, from the neck down for some people. It

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can cause death. It can cause encephalitis, inflammation of the brain.

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It can cause idiopathic thrombodic purpora, and autoimmune type of

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reaction where your plately count drops and you're in a

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deadly situation. These things are documented on those package inserts

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for the MMR vaccine, which was out a long time ago,

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but for the COVID shots it's still in twenty twenty

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six intentionally blank.

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Right, that's amazing. You know, doctor b speaking of the

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measles in part of the hearing with RFK Junior. You know,

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some of these congress folks were trying to beat him

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up and justify vaccines because of the outbreak of measles.

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But I thought it was quite interesting that they didn't

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even bring in to the discussion the fact that we

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had open borders and twenty million plus immigrants coming into

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our country with god knows what.

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So, Bill, you make an excellent point. Did you know

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tuberculosis has just skyrocketed in the United States in the

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last five years. Tuberculosis doesn't have a vaccine. There's no

1373
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:24.079
vaccine for that. How did that happen. It's not because

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of anti vaxers. It's not because of RFK junior. It's

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01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.960
because of twenty million variables that walked in on two

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01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:34.279
feet that were not vetted, that they weren't checked to

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01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:36.479
see if they had vaccines, and also they weren't vetted

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01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:40.600
to see if they had disease. Yes, and so we

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01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:45.720
have an increase in polio and an increase in tuberculosis.

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I think that's the classic example, if you'll look at that,

1381
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.159
because it's it doesn't matter whether you're vaccinated or not,

1382
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:54.439
because there's no vaccine. But it still has doubled in

1383
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:58.000
many cities in many states. And so how does that happen?

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Is it because of RFK?

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I don't think so.

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No, I think that it's very clear that the messaging

1387
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:09.279
and propaganda are just basically infomercials by the senators who

1388
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:12.439
have been bought. There are senators. If you'll look at

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01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:18.640
uh see OpenSecrets dot org. Uh, you'll see who has.

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01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:20.359
Donated to their campaigns.

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Oh.

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By the way, we mentioned last show that I was on.

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That our our chiefs to the White House is a

1394
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:34.079
former lobbyist who who doled out billions millions of dollars

1395
01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:37.359
to congressmen and senators while in her role.

1396
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.640
Uh to uh, what is that about?

1397
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In other countries we call that, we call that bribery

1398
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:47.760
in other countries, but it's called lobbying here. And so

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01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:51.079
they're they're wanting something for their investment. When you give

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01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:57.119
millions of dollars to Bernie Sanders to other senators, that

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01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.960
are harassing RFK, who didn't get a penny by the way,

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01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.439
from these lobbyists. And so he's not he doesn't have

1403
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:06.159
a conflict of interest. They have at least a conference

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01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:11.000
a conflict of interest that's actually a real medical legal term,

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01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:15.239
conflict of interest. And yet and yet they're gonna harass RFK,

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01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:18.399
who wants to make America, happy, happy again, healthy again.

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01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.520
And so I just got to say, it's a joke.

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It's a kangaroo court, it's a circus. Every time they

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01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:26.840
get together. They should leave him alone so he can

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01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:29.760
keep making a difference. He is making a difference right

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without a doubt.

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I mean, and you see whether it's you know RFK Junior,

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uh Donald Trump. I mean, go down through the cabinet

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01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:42.560
of Trump's administration. You don't have a lot of this

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quid pro quote junk lobbying, interaction and infiltration is going on.

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01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:49.359
I mean, I do have a chief of staff for

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President Trump who was a former lobbyist. She was actually

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a fighter of a lobbyist firm. And so while the

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01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:02.079
the Texas Attorney General was Susan is suing Pfizer because

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01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:05.079
people had died, people had been injured, and he said,

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01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:10.600
it's false, it's misleading advertising to say that your shot

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is ninety five percent effective. All of us laugh when

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01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:16.439
we hear ninety five percent effective for a Pfizer COVID shot.

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01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:19.560
And so that was an obvious no brainer.

1425
01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:25.199
But Susie Wiles was in business relationship with Pizer during

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01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:30.279
that time. While the Attorney General of Texas was actually

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01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:31.800
standing up for the people of Texas.

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01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:32.760
What was she doing?

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01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:34.640
Was she standing up for the people of Texas. No,

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01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:38.560
she was standing up for a multi billion dollar corporation.

1431
01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:44.039
That's the reason is Pfizer with a PF. That's not

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a usual that's a German influence. And so you can

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01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:52.239
see there are international corporations that are multi billion dollar

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01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:56.159
corporations that have bought many of the Senators and congressmen.

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01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.479
And RFK is not bought and he wants to America

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have you with us. We've got Susan Hedlin going to

1519
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be joining us, who's the director of Supportive Care Initiative

1520
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:47.039
at the Sherry and Less Biller Family Foundation. And also

1521
01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:50.960
Camille capp is a four year triple negative breast cancer

1522
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:54.199
survivor who has got an incredible story to share with

1523
01:26:54.359 --> 01:26:57.880
us as we talk about surviving and sharing the emotional

1524
01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:03.920
and economic challenges that family space. Let me start with you, Susan,

1525
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:08.840
what are the biggest challenges in navigating the cancer care system?

1526
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:15.119
Thanks for having us LV. My background is as an

1527
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.439
oncology social worker, and one of the things that I

1528
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:22.520
think is so palpable these days is that cancer care

1529
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:26.840
has become so complex and not only are there more

1530
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:31.239
treatment options available, but navigating the healthcare system in general

1531
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:36.000
is so challenging and so in addition to the fear

1532
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:39.800
that understandably comes with a cancer diagnosis, there's so many

1533
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.920
decisions that need to be made about treatment, where to

1534
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.479
get your care, how to get your care, And then

1535
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:51.600
other challenges are navigating health insurance, the financial out of

1536
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:56.840
pocket costs that can be really exorbitant, but importantly also

1537
01:27:57.039 --> 01:28:01.720
dealing with the emotional psychological fallout the cancer diagnosis, not

1538
01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:04.600
only for the person with cancer, but everyone who loves.

1539
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:05.800
Them as well well.

1540
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:08.680
Exactly, And I was going to transition to Camille real

1541
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:10.960
quick just based on what you said, yes, and you

1542
01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:13.800
added that component is that in the midst of dealing

1543
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:19.079
with the logistical elements of dealing with the diagnosis and

1544
01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:22.079
your treatment, then oh yeah, my mind is having all

1545
01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:24.680
kinds of fun with me as I'm dealing and realizing

1546
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:26.079
that I'm a warrior.

1547
01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:28.279
Right, yeah, for sure.

1548
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:32.319
And life doesn't stop so you can fight for your life.

1549
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:36.640
Life keeps going and throwing things at you. And honestly,

1550
01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:39.800
cancer affects every aspect of your life. So not only

1551
01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:44.359
are you like Knuckles, you know, Baard, fighting this disease

1552
01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:48.279
so you can live, but you're also depleted from energy

1553
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.720
and mental strength to deal with everything that life keeps

1554
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:53.399
throwing at you.

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01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:54.439
Right.

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And meanwhile, as you say, you got family around you

1557
01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:01.359
and they're wondering, Okay, what's going on? How do we respond,

1558
01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:06.279
how do we encourage you for what you're dealing with,

1559
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:08.840
because there's only so much that we can relate to,

1560
01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:10.880
right because you're the one.

1561
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:15.439
Right and when you're the mom, you're there to help

1562
01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:19.439
life continue for everybody else and you're just doing your

1563
01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:23.520
best to survive yourself. So about nine or ten months

1564
01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:28.079
into my cancer diagnosis, I had a real low point.

1565
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:28.720
This way.

1566
01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:32.399
I was done with my five months of chemotherapy, I

1567
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:36.039
was done with my double mespectomy. I was still doing

1568
01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:39.880
oral chemo and immunotherapy, but I was struggling.

1569
01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:44.920
With mental depression really for the first time in my life.

1570
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:47.520
And it was not just cancer.

1571
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:50.479
It was mostly cancer, but it was also strange relationships

1572
01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:52.720
in my family and other things that were happening because

1573
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:57.840
of cancer. And so when I approached my oncologist and said, hey,

1574
01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.640
you can you recommend somebody I can talked to as

1575
01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:05.840
a therapist that has experienced with cancer patients, and he's like, no,

1576
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:08.079
but I could prescribe you something if you feel like

1577
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you want something, And I was like, I think, actually,

1578
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:14.479
that's part of the problem is I have so many

1579
01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:18.319
chemicals in my body right now. And so I struggled

1580
01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:22.000
on for several more months, and I tried to find

1581
01:30:22.359 --> 01:30:25.920
resources on my own, but wasn't super successful with the

1582
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:29.960
things that I found. And it wasn't until my nurse

1583
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:34.800
oncologist was accessing my port one day and I said,

1584
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:37.720
I am just really struggling. She was the breast cancer

1585
01:30:38.239 --> 01:30:42.560
survivor herself, and I said, I AM just really struggling mentally,

1586
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:47.119
and she told me about Survivor Healthcare that had resources

1587
01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:50.880
for cancer patients, supportive care for cancer patients. That I

1588
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:54.760
had been there the entire time, but at this point,

1589
01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:58.520
I was fourteen months after my diagnosis that I finally.

1590
01:30:58.319 --> 01:30:58.880
Heard about him.

1591
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:02.359
This sounds like a typical story, huh.

1592
01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:10.000
Sadly, it's become all too common, and it just breaks

1593
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.920
my heart when I hear a Kimille's story, because there

1594
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:18.319
is help out there, but you know, leaving the poor

1595
01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:22.199
person who's going through all this to find it on

1596
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:25.600
their own, I think is really difficult because they're already,

1597
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:28.119
you know, as you said, getting through each day, trying

1598
01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:31.520
to be a mom, trying to continue to get through

1599
01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:35.399
your treatment, and wanting help but not knowing where to

1600
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find it. And so that's one of the reasons that

1601
01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:42.000
our Supporter is Care campaign has been launched is with

1602
01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:46.600
the hope that people won't have to struggle by themselves.

1603
01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.600
Well, what Camille points out here, I mean I took

1604
01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:52.840
mental note immediately when she said the doctor said, well,

1605
01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:56.319
I'll give you something whatever you think you need. She's

1606
01:31:56.399 --> 01:31:59.640
a patient. What do you know that you need or

1607
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:02.680
you don't need? Right? I mean to me, I mean,

1608
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:04.159
with all due respect, I mean it's kind of a

1609
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:04.880
goofy question.

1610
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:10.039
I think, well, and I think the other thing, as

1611
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:13.399
I was mentioning, because cancer care has become so much

1612
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:17.520
more complex and just keeping up with the sheer volume

1613
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:22.039
of data that is coming through with research and all

1614
01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:25.880
the immune therapies and the breakthroughs. Doctors have a hard

1615
01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:28.359
time keeping up with it all. And I'm a real

1616
01:32:28.399 --> 01:32:31.079
believer and a team of approach to all of this

1617
01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:33.760
so that they don't have to be doing it all

1618
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:37.359
by themselves. But just as Kimille said, so many patients say,

1619
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:38.920
I don't want one more drug.

1620
01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:42.239
I love help getting through this, right right?

1621
01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:45.279
Yeah? And I didn't mean to come across disrespectful towards

1622
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:47.399
the doctors. I understand. One of my best friends, I

1623
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:50.560
grew up with as a doctor, and they're you know,

1624
01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:54.119
they are beyond whelmed. You know, they're not even overwhelmed anymore.

1625
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:58.159
They're beyond that in dealing with all kinds of things.

1626
01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:02.359
So sometimes a question may may come across insensitive. And

1627
01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:05.359
I apologize if I even took that statement in an

1628
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:06.600
insensitive sort of way.

1629
01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:09.560
It's just that I didn't take it that way at all.

1630
01:33:09.640 --> 01:33:13.720
Okay, Well, well I'm a yeah, I'm a cancer survivor myself,

1631
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:17.359
so you know, as you go through the process, so

1632
01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:20.119
I understand. So I have I have a lot of

1633
01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:23.079
compassion Camille for what what you've had to go through.

1634
01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:25.800
But but I was on the dad's side. I wasn't

1635
01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:29.279
on the mom's side. I mean, I think dad sides

1636
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:32.079
are you know, compared to what moms have to go through.

1637
01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:36.439
I mean, I can't say much, you know, because I

1638
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:37.920
know what moms have to deal with.

1639
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:42.840
Dads are important too, both of us.

1640
01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:48.880
Yeah, right, Well you don't know what you don't know, yeah, exactly.

1641
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:51.279
And the fact that you what you've gone through and

1642
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:54.439
that you're coming on this show to share your story

1643
01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:57.680
is so important to help others so that they say, well,

1644
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:02.279
oh goodness, I'm not losing my mind, right, Yeah, yeah,

1645
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:02.720
this is.

1646
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.479
Normal because you don't know that what's normal or not

1647
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:10.439
if you're a first time cancer patient and hopefully you'll

1648
01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:12.960
never be a cancer patient again, but you don't have

1649
01:34:13.079 --> 01:34:16.239
that experience to draw on, and you sometimes you just

1650
01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:18.680
feel like I should just be grateful that I'm alive.

1651
01:34:19.439 --> 01:34:19.600
Right.

1652
01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:24.560
Not everybody survives cancer, but you don't have to just

1653
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You can.

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1656
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1657
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And can you know the other thing it?

1658
01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:39.760
Excuse me, pill, No, no, go ahead, go ahead please.

1659
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:43.960
I was just thinking as I was saying that that

1660
01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:48.439
patients needs change over time, and in the beginning, it

1661
01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:50.720
may be a need for a lot of information and

1662
01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.079
education about what's this journey going to look like and

1663
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:57.479
what are the right treatment decisions. But I was sharing

1664
01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:02.520
with Camille that I stillitate retreats for women with breast cancer,

1665
01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:06.239
and we generally asked them to come after the hardest

1666
01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:09.520
part of treatment is done, because that's when people have

1667
01:35:09.640 --> 01:35:14.079
the psychological wherewithal to ask the question, who am I now?

1668
01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:15.760
How has this changed me?

1669
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:17.520
How has this not changed me.

1670
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:21.279
But those are things that in the middle of treatment,

1671
01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:25.000
people rarely have the wherewithal to really base those questions.

1672
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:27.239
So true, you're in survival mode for sure.

1673
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:31.279
Right, Well, it sounds to me, Camille, that supportive cancer

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care couldn't have come any sooner for you, right, It

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could have.

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Definitely I could have used it from day one.

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Honestly, I could have used from that phone call that

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I got from my doctor saying that you have breast

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cancer totally hit me unawares.

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The biopsy was from my peace of.

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Mind, I could have used, Hey, and if you need

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to talk to somebody, I'm going to send you a

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phone number, because it was eleven days between my diagnosis

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and my first meeting with the doctor.

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So that's great, that's great. So that's great advice. Don't

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don't delay. Supportive cancer care is available, right, Susan.

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Yeah, it sure is fatuous, and it's it's dependent upon

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where a person lives, of course, and in some of

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our more rural areas it's it's perhaps a little harder

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to access, but there are more and more televisits available.

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There are definitely resources that people can access no matter

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where they live or what type of.

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Insurance that they have.

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Well that's excellent. Well comeil Cap for your triple negative

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breast cancer survivor. Thank you for coming on the show

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and sharing your story. And Susan Edlin, director of Supportive

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Care Initiative at the Sherry and Less Biller Family Foundation, Susan,

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where can people go for more information?

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Thanks for asking?

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The website support is care dot org is full of

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wonderful information resources for both patients and their lave once

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as well.

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Well, Susan Camil, thank you again for coming on. Stay

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Hey, we're back with you. Good morning. Bill Martinez here

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along with Jeff Preware in the Native New Orleans political

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commentator and host of the award winning program Ringside Politics. Hey,

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mister Jeff, how we doing, buddy.

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Doing great? Always appreciate being with you.

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Bill.

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Thank you well, it's great having you here. Get your insight.

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Let's talk about this massive fraud. I mean, we had Doze,

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the Democrats, the lefties went absolutely nuts. I believe that,

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in my heart of hearts, I believe that given the

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support and if the government was really interested in it,

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which involves the left as much as the right, I

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think that Elon Musk could have easily found a trillion

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dollars in fraud.

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You know, that's one of the great disappointments of the

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past year, the fact that Doze was not allowed to

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continue doing what they were doing. I wish Elon could

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have somehow stayed on. I mean, they were doing such

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great work, and we got a thirty nine trillion dollar

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a debt. We've doubled it in the last ten years.

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There's there's trillions in fraud, and yeah, jose were on

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their way. Some good things have happened, but boy, we've

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got to get got a handle on this.

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Well, Jeff, you know you're a businessman, and you know

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how those things work. I mean, in the real life,

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you know, you've got to produce a result, you got

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to do something. But anybody that goes to work for

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our government, they get so frustrated. You've got all this

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talent there that goes there. I mean, it's a wonder.

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I'm amazed that Donald Trump puts up with this stuff

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01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:38.560
because you know, it's just like these people in DC,

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01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:43.680
they need therapy. It's not therapy medication. I mean, are

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they just need to get fired because they wouldn't last

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five minutes in a corporate position or any job in

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the real world for putting up with the kind of

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and promoting the kind of antics that they promote at

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01:42:55.399 --> 01:43:00.840
the cost of their consumers. In this case, we people, right.

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01:43:01.960 --> 01:43:04.199
Yeah, I mean you just look at the work ethic.

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I mean, they're never there, they never get anything done.

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They saw all the lines that people had at the

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airports recently, they cut to the front. They get all

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01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:19.840
their perks and their privileges and their benefits, and it's disgusting.

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01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:23.560
And they won't get rid of insider trading. They won't

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get rid of you know, you know, terms, unlimited terms.

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They won't put limits on their terms.

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So they're not doing what the people want, and I think,

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you know, I think there's going to be a wake

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up call, sadly for some of the Republicans unless we

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can deliver over the next seven months.

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Well, the system itself is a mess. It's broken in

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the least and it continues to produce these kind of results.

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You know, you mentioned thirty nine trillion dollars in counting

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in debt. You know, I've spoken with several top economists

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and I said, help me understand on that thirty nine

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trillion dollars, how much is it tied to vote getting

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And they all admitted they said, probably all of it.

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You know.

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So you've got these politicians like you said, yeah, they

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get to cut in front of the line, they got

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insider training, and they get tied in with these special

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groups and everything like that that get government funding, and

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then some of that government funding comes back into their

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re election campaigns. That's what makes the wheels on the

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bus go round and around in DC.

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And they listen to the special interests, they listen to

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their donors, they listen to people that have the money,

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because it's all about the money, and they don't listen

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to the constituents. I mean, you don't see town hall meetings,

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you don't see interaction with regular people in their districts.

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So they come around during election time, spend a lot

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of money on ads, claim that they're doing what the

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people want, and ninety percent of the incombents get re

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elected even though they never deliver. And the American people

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are always upset about Congress in general, but they usually

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re elect their lame and I've been representing them.

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Well, it's a massive cabal Jeff when you think about it,

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because it's not only the politicians, but it's the media.

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The media is all complicit in this whole program. It's

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like they've had some sort of dark of night blood

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oath over a burning cross that they made a commitment

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to one another.

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Over right, Yeah, I mean the media is dysterilic and

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don't perform their duty, have no interest in forming the public,

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have no interest in being fair and balanced.

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It is.

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It's a sad situation. So people are really left on

1868
01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:37.000
their own trying to figure out what's going on. They

1869
01:45:37.039 --> 01:45:39.920
don't get much help from those supposedly in the media.

1870
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I mean, the watchdogs aren't there. So there's some groups,

1871
01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:46.840
there's some people that do good work, Nick Shirley, people

1872
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like James O'Keefe, but they are they're few and far between, Bill.

1873
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Right, exactly. And then of course they're attacked in Maligned

1874
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You know here, Nick Shirley, you know, like you said,

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reveals what happen up in Minneapolis, and then he goes

1876
01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:04.239
to California and finds out whoa wait a minute, this thing.

1877
01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:09.479
It's like this has become a franchise fraud program, right right.

1878
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And then so I want to give the president credit.

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He has appointed jd Vance, who I've got a lot

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of faith in to head this task force to go

1881
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after fraud. And I mean, if they're allowed to do

1882
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their work, I mean they could maybe pick up where

1883
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does a left off and maybe pick up where some

1884
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of these investigators have uncovered all of this happening and

1885
01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:34.399
do something about it. I mean, I know Nick Shirley

1886
01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:38.039
and O'Keefe are not super pleased with the follow up

1887
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to what they have uncovered, so there needs to be

1888
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follow up.

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Bill.

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Well, look what happened with Dave de Lighton. You know,

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he was the one that exposed Planned Parenthood right for

1892
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:50.199
selling baby parts. Right, they finally just released them of

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all liability after what I mean, this thing's been going

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on for over five years, right, and hundreds of thousands

1895
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of dollars in legal fees, and they finally just said, well, okay,

1896
01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:02.239
well we're not gonna we're not going to pursue it.

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You're off. But meanwhile, Planned Parenthood, who was libel for

1898
01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:10.000
the illegal activity. Nobody goes to jail. He goes to jail.

1899
01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:12.800
They don't go to jail. There's no consequence. And meanwhile

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the taxpayer keeps giving money the Planned Parenthood. What's wrong

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with this picture?

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Everything? Everything?

1903
01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:22.079
Uh, he should have been you know, praised as a

1904
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:25.920
hero because of what he uncovered instead of prosecuted. He

1905
01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:29.520
should have been given an award, and then a Planned

1906
01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:32.399
Parenthood should not get a dime. I don't understand why

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we keep funding Planted Parenthood.

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Well, somebody should be in jail, Jeff. That's the thing.

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01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:40.520
And that's the problem with all this stuff, the fraud

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that's going on. Yes, okay, you got the investigation start

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locking people up. They what they have done. I mean

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these kind of numbers, I mean we're talking millions of

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dollars and then billions of dollars. I mean, like you know,

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it's like whatever Dirkson said, you know, a millionaire, a millionaire.

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Now you start talking about a lot of money. Well

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now we're not talking any million We're talking billions.

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Right right, and pretty soon we're gonna be talking trillions.

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Yeah exactly.

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That's why where you know, we need an aggressive attorney general,

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we need an aggressive DOJ.

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We need to see some of these people get prosecuted.

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And uh and that's where I hope whoever the new

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attorney general is going to be, they're going to be

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very active about this. And you're right, people need to

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be prosecuted, they need to go to jail.

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Well, they need to follow Trump's lead. Trump's like a

1927
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bull in a china shop. I mean he's throwing more

1928
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stuff at the politicians, the House, the Senate. They can't

1929
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keep up with him. I mean even the act of

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his judges. I mean it's like, okay, do your law fair,

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but we're just going to keep coming at you. We're

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going to be resilient and resistant, you know, to all

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this shenanigans that you do. And the new uh, you know,

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the replacement for Pam Bondi right now Todd Blench temporarily

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and they're talking that maybe he's ultimately the guy whatever

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he needs to come in full force with guns of

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blaring and don't worry, because hey, you know, you could

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end up being you know, just like Pam Bondy. You

1939
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could just be a headline one day and you know,

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a social media post that you're fired. So it might

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as well go out blazing, right, Bill, You've.

1942
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Really hit upon it.

1943
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You've got President Trump, this ball of energy, who's who's

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working NonStop, and then you never have that kind of

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same commitment that's kind of same success around him.

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I mean, look at the attorney general position. We have

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yet to have one good attorney general for President Trump

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in his first term or second term. I mean, where

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is the leadership to work with President Trump and help

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01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:43.600
him enact as agenda. We don't see it in Congress.

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A lot of these people that get appointed to his

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administrations don't get the job done. He's had to now

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fire too within the past few weeks Christina Woman, now

1954
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Pam Bondy and more could be fired in the days ahead, right.

1955
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Well, because see, Don Trump is a businessman. You and

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I talked about this long time ago. The country was

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aching for a businessman at the helm No nonsense. Let's

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just hey, give me a bottom line here, let's produce something.

1959
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And this is where the Republican Party, especially now because

1960
01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:16.880
they're the party in power, they're so exposed that we're

1961
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going you know, this is like Obamacare deja vous one

1962
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more time. Right, you don't have the Save Act, you

1963
01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:26.199
haven't cadified these things that Donald Trump has been doing

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by executive order, and most of these things that he's

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done by executive order, Jeff, they're ninety ten issues. Give

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me a pick and break. You can't move the ball

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up on a ninety ten issue, you know, John Thune.

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I mean I kind of like you, but I don't

1969
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like you.

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I don't like your results, right, yeah, exactly.

1971
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I mean he might be a nice guy personally, but

1972
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show me where he's any better than Mitch McConnell. Right,

1973
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you know, Mike Johnson, nice guy personally, very Christian, very religious,

1974
01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:57.439
but show me how he's better than Paul Ryan or

1975
01:50:57.479 --> 01:51:01.239
Kevin McCarthy. I mean, we've gotten one bill, I mean,

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the one big, beautiful bill.

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I mean, what have they done.

1978
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Other than that?

1979
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Right? Well, unfortunately he's been thwarted with the Senate, you know,

1980
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time and again. I mean they've passed a lot of activity.

1981
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I will give Johnson. I have more faith in Johnson

1982
01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:18.279
than I do than I do john Soon. But yeah,

1983
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last I forget. But what happens with the House and

1984
01:51:22.039 --> 01:51:25.119
the Senate. It is a partnership. It's a leadership partnership

1985
01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:28.239
between you know, Johnson. A good House leader makes for

1986
01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:30.279
a good Senate leader. Good Senate leader makes for a

1987
01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.560
stronger House leader. And they need to be in tandem.

1988
01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:34.039
And of course here you got oh yeah, that's right,

1989
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we got the White House two on top of it.

1990
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You know, the kind of leadership I'm looking for is

1991
01:51:39.079 --> 01:51:41.720
new Kingridge when he was Speaker of the House. I

1992
01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:44.600
mean to me, that was a very productive time. They

1993
01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:47.560
seemed to get a lot done. And I'm looking for

1994
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that kind of leadership. And you're right, Johnson's better than Doom.

1995
01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:54.000
But I'm certainly looking for more aggressive leadership on both sides.

1996
01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:56.520
And here's the deal. They keep saying, oh, we've got

1997
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a very slim majority. Unless we get something done, we're

1998
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:03.079
going to lose the slim majority. And I'm talking about

1999
01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:04.479
both the House and the Senate.

2000
01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:08.640
Well, yeah, exactly, That's why I said it's Obamacare. Deja vu.

2001
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Look what happened. Republicans lost their power because they kept

2002
01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:14.319
promising they were going to do something and they didn't. Right,

2003
01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:16.600
And I know some people want to blame John McCain,

2004
01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:17.920
but there's a lot of other people that could have

2005
01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:21.000
voted to you know, that didn't. It's just John McCain

2006
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:23.760
and his you know, his fickled finger thumb, you know,

2007
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down did us no favors, no doubt.

2008
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It is deja vu. It's the same thing that happened

2009
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in the first two years of the first Trump administration.

2010
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They didn't deliver, and look what happened. We lost forty

2011
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House seats in twenty eighteen. I'm praying that that's not

2012
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going to happen this time because you know, if it does,

2013
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we're going to have to be talking about impeachment again.

2014
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Oh it's impeachment sitty NonStop, and then forget about anything else,

2015
01:52:47.159 --> 01:52:50.239
forget about the rest of you know, Donald Trump's agenda.

2016
01:52:50.279 --> 01:52:52.359
And oh yeah, by the way, see who makes the

2017
01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:53.840
first move to go nuclear?

2018
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Yeah right, yeah, they'll do it. They'll do it in

2019
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a heartbeat, Harry, You know, right right, you're exactly right.

2020
01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:07.479
They the Democrats. One thing about them is I mean

2021
01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:10.720
they act boldly. It's a horrible agenda, but they get

2022
01:53:10.760 --> 01:53:13.920
the job done for their constituents. Republicans are trying to

2023
01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:16.840
be nice guys, and uh, they've got to stop that.

2024
01:53:17.359 --> 01:53:20.000
Yeah, I'm with you, Bill, Hey with the people. Have

2025
01:53:20.039 --> 01:53:22.520
got to be on the phones. Hammer the phones. Let

2026
01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:25.239
them know that you matter. They may think you don't matter,

2027
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:28.760
but that's because you're not talking to them, you know.

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But they they do respond to phone. I hear time

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in again. Now we measure phone calls. So uh, you know,

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get on the phones. Let your congressman, let your senator know.

2031
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This is unacceptable. You've got to make something happen. And uh, hey,

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we're running out of time here because with all the

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activist judges and everything that's going on. I just want

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01:53:46.880 --> 01:53:48.880
Trump to say, hey, I want to I want to

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01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:52.079
reclaim my time that you wasted in my administration. Okay,

2036
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So I can't. I can't leave in January. You guys

2037
01:53:56.119 --> 01:53:59.199
wasted six months. So I'll be you know, the movers

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01:53:59.199 --> 01:54:01.720
are going to come here in July on July first, okay.

2039
01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:04.800
And the thing about it, he works twenty four to seven.

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01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:07.680
I mean, he doesn't take weeks and weeks of vacation.

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01:54:07.840 --> 01:54:08.640
I mean, he's working.

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I mean, why aren't they following his lead?

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Bill, Yeah, exactly. He sleeps maybe three hours if he's lucky.

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This thing was so funny, Jeff, is that over the

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last weekend he got quiet because we were in negotiations

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01:54:21.199 --> 01:54:23.880
with Iran and he kind of just he kind of

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01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:29.000
laid back, and man, the social media nuts they went crazy, Oh,

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he's in the hospital, he's sick. There's something, you know,

2049
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Amendment twenty five, twenty fifth amendment. I mean, they were

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01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:38.800
just going, they were apoplectic because Donald Trump hadn't done

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01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:43.840
a conference presser in what a day and a half

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01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:45.039
or something. It's crazy.

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But you know what's interesting.

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01:54:46.239 --> 01:54:48.760
He was at the White House working while Congress was

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01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:51.800
on vacation, so he was working through Eastern right while

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01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:54.840
they're playing around doing nothing exactly.

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Well, we got to leave it there as always. Jeff,

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thank you so much for being with us. He's a

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01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:01.760
native New Orleans political commentator, host of the award winning

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program Ringside Politics. Jeff Career, Thank you, Jeff, take care, godspeed.

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01:55:05.479 --> 01:55:05.680
Thank you.

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Bill.

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You got to take care. Bye bye here bye.

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