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0:00 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do it. Ill Martina's Live a program about current events. Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Six minutes after the top of the hour, right now, Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here along with Epic Epic Times Investigative reporter, award winning journalist Joshua Phillip. Joshua always good to have you with us. How are you? It's always a pleasure and interesting times as always. Huh. Well, to say the least, I mean the straight of hormones. I guess Iran has surrendered a little bit and said, all right, we'll play nice and we'll leave it open.

0:41 And the stock market is going crazy. You know my take on it. Iran didn't open the trade of horror moves. China forced Iran to open the Strait of horr MoES because I think Trump. When Trump, when Trump moved in and blockaded the blockade, all he was really doing was blocking the going to China Iran. Iran was letting that through. Trump said, no more of this, I'm blocking it unless you were unless you really want to unblock it, meaning no oil to China or oil to China, and everybody else, it's off the table. I think the CCP forced the hand to Beran on it because of that. What a brilliant move, huh from Trump. It's It's what I was suggesting he should do, because I was actually saying, it's ridiculous that Trump is allowing, you know, Iran to ship oil to China still despite the whole blockade, like they you know, they should be intercepting the Iranian ships. I think I think his move just blocking it was smarter than intercepting ships.

1:40 Well, uh, how's your confidence level with the negotiators for Iran? Are you? Are you, like me, still a bit dubious or maybe a lot dubious. Well, you know, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Iran is not an independent country that they're very much dependent on China. A lot of a lot of their diplomatic decis visions will be the decisions of the Chinese Communist Party. And I think the reality is Trump's Trump has an upcoming meeting with she Jing Ping right now, you know, CS top leader. They don't want to fumble that because the Chinese economy is kind of dying right now. The CCP is even trying to. They even have new laws in place to prevent businesses from leaving China, like American manufacturers. Their real estate industry is dead, oil is basically dead. Like they're really they're really suffering, and they can't afford the straight of Hermus being locked down. I don't think they care so much about the terrorism thing. You know, China, they actually help with a lot of it, but they can't they cannot have the straight of Hermu's lockdown. So I think they will force the hand to be run. They're even saying that he runs willing to get willing to willing to get rid of their nuclear programs. But I think also oversight is going to be a huge part in that.

2:55 Well, the other thing that got exposed in all this is that the ccp'sl terry industrial complex quite lacking. Huh yeah, well, you know that's been a big scandal in China. I can tell you among China watchers there's actually been news. It freaked out the CCP like they were actually they were actually shocked. So when Trump went in and captured Maduro, that was a shock to them. And when Trump went in and killed the Iranian leadership, that was another shock to him. And basically here's why China had been selling these countries missile defense systems. They've been selling them systems where they said, you know, this will take down the American aircraft. We can detect fifth generation fighter jets. This will protect you. We have anti air systems, they'll blow them out of the sky. They were selling their allies all these things they said were basically designed to prevent attacks from the United States and to fight off the United States. They also had anti ship missiles. They had all kinds of technologies. Basically they were saying, you know, America starts a war, We're going to destroy their entire navy, and there's no countermeasures for anti ship missiles.

4:05 We saw that none of that worked. None of it. They didn't blow up a single ship, despite the fake reports going around. The missile defense systems did not work, the radar systems did not work. Basically nothing worked. And for the CCP, that's a big deal because that means that basically their their military. You know, their weapons developers were selling them snake oil. There. There are reports now that chi Jinping actually had the guy who made the J twenty, which is their fifth generation fighter chap allegedly had the guy killed. That's what I heard, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's good. And it's not just them that they've been doing reviews. They're finding missiles like just that have been filled with water.

4:46 Yeah they have. They have missiles, they have weapons systems that are non functional. It's like just graft and people stealing money. And not only that, like the review of the Chinese militaries, you're showing all these problems. Not only that report, what's are coming out now. Also the Chinese Communist Party is terrified because their whole narrative was the decline of the West. It was and that was what you heard in the United States too. It was this whole like you know, great power competition, you know, a declining empire and a rising empire. They thought that declining empire was America and the rising empire was China. Basically, that whole narrative is done now. They're like, no, America made a comeback, and the entire narrative they had on the rise of China is basically over.

5:31 Well, not only China, Joshua, but look at the European nations. I mean, Joe Biden had brought America so close terms of you know, GDP and development and everything and then all but now a new president and this country gets jettisoned, and look what, Look what's happening. I mean, we're heading shoulders to everybody. China's exposed, Russia's exposed, China's navy. Look at their navy. I mean it's sparsacle. They've built up all these boats, and you wonder, okay, if there are anything like the missiles that they developed, what's going to happen with these boats. So this is what's left out of the discussion on the Chinese navy. They don't really have deep water capabilities. They're not really present there. A lot of their ships are coast guard ships and retro fitted fishing boats that they basically labels part of their coast guard. You know, they label lot of their battleships along those lines. They're not you know, they they I understand they have even submarine technology. They're loud, which anybody who understands submarines kind of kind of defeats the purposes. Put it that way, a lot of their systems are not hardened against modern technologies.

6:44 And what America's demonstrating now is basically electronic warfare is the future. If your weapons systems are not hardened against electronic warfare, they can zap in you know. Let's put it this way. A lot of people don't know this. If you have a car that has you know, those circuits in it, you know, you open up a little part and it shows that you know the different you know, different circuits and stuff, your car is susceptible to an e MP. So if for example, there was an EMP attack, it would actually break the cars in any any car aside from like very old models would be dead on the road. The same exact thing goes for jets, same thing goes for airplanes, same thing goes for tanks, the same thing goes for fighter you know, boats and everything else. Basically, unless you're hardened against electronic warfare, nothing you have can stand on a modern battlefield where electronic warfare capable of doing e MP like.

7:45 That it exists. And so the which basically means fifth generation or above. And we found out the whole fifth generation you know thing for China was a farce. Their military is useless effectively against the United States, and no that sounds crazy for some people. Case in point, we can look at how well Russia is doing against Ukraine. They're losing about like forty thousand people a month. It's insane. The death toll is astronomical. Their tanks are basically off the battlefield, their air control basically off the battlefield. The Chinese military is lower in technology than the Russians. It's why China has to buy their jet engines from Russia. They can't even build the stuff Russia builds.

8:33 Wow, it's. You know again what Donald Trump has done. He's been an agent of exposure on so many levels, and China especially, no doubt about it. And there's more to be revealed here. And this is also why the space race again is so critical. I want to talk about that when we come back more from Joshua after this stay with us at Coles. Spring Style starts with the season's best shoe sale and continues with fifteen percent off the rest of your looks, but with great outfits from Coals. What happens next is unexpected. Strangers ask, will you shop? The breeze feels like it's blowing. Just for you? Your kids post for photos willingly Yep. Great Spring offics can do that kind of thing. Find yours at Coalsancoals dot Com. Select styles offers in April twenty sixth.

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14:00 There's a race right now basically over who is going to own the water on the Moon because they found it. You know, the Moon is pretty big, and anybody ever like overlay the Moon with like the United States, it's like it's big. You know, you're talking like it's it's like as big as the United States. Basically, right, it's a big place, as you might expect. But China basically has ambitions to populate and control resources on the Moon. In particular, they want helium three and they want they want water, hydrogen. And the reason they want that helium three there's a lot of experience right now in fusion fusion energy, and you need you need helium three for fusion energy. They believe that if they can build a base in the Moon, they can mine for helium three, massive resource, and if that's going to be the future of energy, which is it's experimental that they don't they can't quite do it. They say they're breakthroughs, but that will overtake nuclear if they can, If they can make fusion work, that will be the world's new energy. And the Moon is covered in helium three, which they need for that they also need hydrogen, and the Moon has hydrogen, why do they need that? The problem you have with deep space travel is rocket propulsion. You know, of course we've all seen when they do when they do the initial takeoffs, they drop the propulsions. Breaking out of the Earth's atmosphere takes a huge amount of energy and basically

15:30 the if you if you do payloads where you have enough propulsion to go to deep space, the amount of the amount of resources you need to lift that off is astronomical and it's just it's not really feasible. So the idea is they could build a secondary kind of launch pad on the Moon, and then then you need an energy source. Of course, you know, we can bring stuff there, but if it's already there, it's better. And so they're looking at hydrogen energy, and so the Moon has that. There's a race now over who controls that. So the United States is looking at a multi nation model, not involving China. China says they basically want to own it.

16:13 And what you have right now, after America did this fly around to the Moon, China is actually sending their own ship there, not manned. It's going to have like a little bot on it, and there's concerned they might actually try to you know, plant a little Chinese flag somewhere and just claim territory. Because right now the United States is saying the next trip we have to the Moon, which is very soon, we're going there to stay. So there's a race to own parts of the Moon right now. So if they plan a flag, that gives them some jurisdiction, juridic, jurisdictional you know rights in that. Well, I mean, how has it ever done, right?

16:55 I guess. I mean it's like, okay, I went there on the first one to plan a flag there. I mean it's it's like, how do you declare How do you declare ownership over any territory? I mean basically basically, yeah, you put a flag on it, or or maybe at most you uh, you know, you grab some twine and you know part you know, section off an area. Basically, this is what China has been doing in. The South China Sea, always going to say they're they're building little infrastructure, they're leading stuff there. They could say that, hey, we have a we have. An you know, an easy and exclusive economic zone around our flag, and we claim this entire area. Now they're not racing to own the entire Moon. There's a race to own these this one area where all the hydrogen has been found, and so that that's what everybody's kind of gunning for right now. It's and it's basically first come, first serve. Whoever whoever gets there first is the one that's going to own it.

17:52 So you think that with their bought that somehow they can find a way to you know, then claim some claim some territory there very possible. Uh. There's also been a long term concern over what's called the Earth Moon system, so not just not just you know, Earth and the Moon, but the space in between. And you know, basically there's been if you read a lot of like military writings, there's been concerned that China is trying to basically claim ownership. Over entire orbits. They can say, we own this orbit. If you want to pass through this orbit, you need to pay us a fee, you know, like the Strait of Hormuz for example, you have to pay a toll.

18:33 And if and if we say you can't access it, just like just like Iran blockade of the Straight of Hormones, why can't you blockade an orbit and and so there's a concern that whoever, if you can claim an orbit, or if you can if you can claim regions between the Earth and the Moon, it could work. Basically is the. Same thing, right, And even more so, if you can weaponize space you put you put a missile in Basically that eliminates the problem of ballistic missiles. Where you know, the time you intercept them is when is when they go into the atmosphere, right, it eliminates that problem you would if you put missiles in space, like ballistic missiles in space or I guess we need to do ballistic you.

19:18 Can't intercept them. And so when it comes to missile defense, nuclear deterrence, trade, the future of space travel, whoever controls the Earth Moon system and the hydrogen hydrogen on the Moon basically controls the future. Wow, what do you think five ten years, twenty years? Well, I don't think they're willing to wait that long. China, China, China, I know, but I mean before we start realizing, I mean this, this sounds like the comic book Sci Fi Is that you and I read when we were growing up. Right, Well, so here's the thing. This is not a new discussion. It's just it's just it hasn't really been talked about broadly until recently.

20:02 Like if you. Read a lot of you know, for example, the reason if you read like Space Force, you know, which is a military branch now type documents, or if you read documents on you know, China Watch from China watchers. They've been talking about this for like ten fifteen years. Chinese military documents, they very openly talk about this. This has been their ambition. It's talked about a lot in like you know, defense communities is the future major threat right and we're basically at a point now where I don't know if we waited too long, but it's it's kind of do or die right now. And that's why I think we have a very legitimate Moon race. Like what is at stake right now with this Moon race is greater than the Moon race of the Cold War, because it's not just a pr thing.

20:49 This is about ownership. This is playing for keeps well. And I know Americans were really surprised at how quick Artemis came in the scene. It was like we hadn't heard a lot about it, and all of a sudden, boom, We're going to the moon and uh and it's all it's this has all happened in the first year of Donald Trump's you know, new administration, right. Yeah, and so that's the thing too, you know, I think what's also being debated here is the difference between privately owned or government owned space travel versus h privately owned space travel. You're you're kind of watching, you know, communism and capitalism go to a head. And China that's all heavily controlled by the government. There's questions over how legitimate their space programs are, and people say, well, did NASA frame this stuff? There's a lot more evidence that China has been.

21:36 Fake and stuff. It's kind of a joke in like the Chinese medicine community. But you know, in America, of course, we have a lot of private business feeding space technology. I mean, look at look at. The just leave. Yeah, what's that going to mean for Jeff Bezos and Musk Right, go ahead? I'm sorry. Well, you know, the commercialization of space means they're trying to find ways to make space profitable. And if you want to make space profitable, that means, hey, if you mine an asteroid, the amount of resources you're going to be looking at would would would basically replace the entire wealth of the of the world as we know it.

22:16 You know, val that's that's lots of lots of tesseless they could be produced right potentially. Oh absolutely. And also you know the Moon right now, what what is valuable for the Moon is energy. The Moon is about energy. The Moon is about again helium three and hydrogen. They want that for energy. And that's going to be relevant to asteroid mining. That's going to be relevant to long term basing, that's going to be relevant to building additional economic models in space. It's going to be relevant to you know, establishing a base there and doing scientific research like like the The significance of.

22:58 It is is very is very real. And again if you have businesses going there, it means they're going to look to xp they're going to look to exploit that. China's also talked about mining the Moon, and so I think also I wouldn't be surprised if bezos from US would start talking also about mining mining on the Moon. Yeah, without a doubt. Well, Joshua has always appreciate the insight. This is exciting, you know, you think about you know, what's coming here and what the next generation, the next two generations what they're going to experience as this space race continues. And it's all because right now, it's all because of Donald Trump and one party over the other. I just can't imagine the Democrats having the capacity to even consider this.

23:39 Yeah, well, hopefully to keep it because the others. There's a lot at stake and always a pleasure of being here. Thank you well, Joshua Philip, the host of Crossroads and senior investigative reporter with the Epic Times. Thank you, Joshua, Take care, be well always, thank you. We call ourselves a SAP Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket ASA for those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no waight time, you get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines you know them. We can't tell you their names. You can fly domestically or internationally and save more money than you could if you call the airlines directly. Our proprietary software goes underneath the hood of the major airline booking systems and find you the best rates available. So if you're ready to make your travel plans right now, business or vacation travel. We have all the major airlines always at great rates. Call asap trips and we'll have your ticket in your inbox in fifteen minutes.

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28:18 I forgot to brag. I forgot to brag about of course, celebrated number one top Amazon author. And you know what are you up to about sixty seventy books now? No, you're spending them out like Biscus Bundy. Yeah, only fourteen and only fourteen, and I have ghosts written three other books for people, and so yeah, I do a lot of writing and researching and spend a lot of my time doing that. Of course, I'm a pastor of a large church and going all the time counseling and studying for sermons and ministering and funerals and weddings, and so yeah, my hair is on fire a lot, brother. Yes, right, well, And like you, because you are talking with people in your counseling and you're representing a body of Christ, the truth is absolutely critical, and so what you have to do, you're compelled to be constantly researching and taking a deep dive into these things and not just you know, falling into the falling into the traps of an eight second sound bite.

29:22 Right, yes, and listen. I want to warn your audience. I mean, you are excellent at not being this way. I try to be excellent at not being this way. You're one of my idols. But I want to warn your audience of the plethora of what Jesus would call false prophets out there. Now, we've got all of these podcasters, and some of them are good. But here's the thing. I warned people all the time. I have people say, well, did you see so and so those podcasts? He says something different and baa baa pap and then I get and I'm fine. I want to learn. I'm a run I used to be a cop, criminal investigator. I want to know the forensics. I want to know the facts. So I'm always courteous and I say, well, send me some stuff. But here's what I ask, please don't send me. Well, if you ever have somebody who are listening to speak about secret knowledge, they have one. The other way, unless they're willing to expose it. The other thing is run away from anybody that can't provide you with some forensics that makes sense for first research. Now, all I mean by that is, if somebody knows something really big, then they need to caveat it with I know something I'm not at liberty to tell you yet, just like when I was a part of Sheriff Ourpio's investigation of Obaha, and that was and we tell people that all the time.

30:45 But if you'll hang on, I will give you the information in due time. I promise, I'm not lying. I'd be a spool to sit here and try to gaslight you. And of course when that happened, I wrote a fifty page chapter for a book with a major publisher that uncovers the whole thing. But the bottom line is, so many people are out there with these with these political things, these biblical things, and they say, look, I've got secret knowledge. And sometimes they don't use the word secret, but that's what they're telling you exactly if you ask them give me some forensics, I mean something that I can research. Well, well we don't have that right now, but it's coming. It's coming. And you probably have seen those clips.

31:25 Well that's you know, that's what got Pambundi in trouble. Karl to be honest, you know, and Sidney Powell, I love Sidney Powell. She'd been on the show for many years, and look what they put her through after the election of twenty twenty. Right. But Candace Owens is a perfect example of this. She was seen to be very conservative for years. Now all of a sudden, it's like, I don't know what's wrong with her mind, but she's always saying. There's a clip out there that has about twenty instances of her saying it's coming, it's almost there, it's gonna happen, it's coming, and it never does. It never does. It's called gas lighting, and it's called manipulation, and it's called trying to get viewers, trying to hook them and drag them along so they can get clicks, so they can get Monday, Monday, Monday.

32:13 And yeah, exactly, you don't know that. I don't do that. But now, well, and this is why, you know, the Bible warned us of what they called the false prophets, like you said, in the old days, they took care of that pretty expediently, right, yeah. Yeah. The other thing Jesus said though, not only the false prophets, but he talked about how deception would be so great in the last days. Now we've got a I deep fake video, deep fake audio, deep fake pictures, and deep fake answers to people's questions and on AI. And then we've got these podcasters trying to make money and they're saying, hang on, hang on, this coming, thiss coming, I promise you it's coming in it never does. Well, what's your evidence? Well, I can't tell you that right now.

32:54 Oh secret information. Give me one little piece that points me where I can do. My own research to exactly when I preach. I've been preaching forty years in my pulpit. I do a lot of preaching on prophetic connections to the world, to what's going on in the news, and then also relevancy of the word and how we should live it in crazy, maddening days filled with derangement of mind. Oh my gosh, all over the world. But every time I make these statements that ten years ago would have been outlandish, I always say, check me out. And then on behind me. I've got like a power point up there sometimes where I will have several links and I will have quotes from several scholarly sources or scientific sources or whatever I'm talking about, historical sources, reputable, just to let the people know.

33:44 And I always say this. I'm not claiming that because I have good sources that I am one hundred percent correct, because I don't know if they are one hundred percent correct. But what I'm trying to tell you is, I'm not a shyster. I'm not a purposeful false prophet. I'm not a gas lighter. I'm not pulling this out of my back pocket. There are other people with credentials deeper than mine that have seen and are saying the same things. Now, when you talk, when you listen to somebody that says that like I do and like you do, and others, then then listen to them, but still check them out. I tell my congregation every Sunday, check me out after this message, and see if you don't find that to be true.

34:26 Well, our audience knows. I often say, own your own knowledge. Thank you, and only your own faith. I tell you all the time, your faith cannot be well the preacher said it, so I believe it. You don't know. No, I'm not going to lie to you on purpose. I've been their pastor for forty years. I tell them I've never lied to you. I've misspoken a few times innocently and I had to get it correct, and I did. I would come to the propet and say, you know, I gave you the wrong scripture or I misquoted that scripture. I just off the top of my mind, I don't know why. I'm sorry, here's the correct or. Here's something that I have believed for years. But now that I've done a deeper dive than the word of God, I'm gonna tweak it. And I will to let you know that I'm making this change in what I believe about this.

35:11 I mean, I try to. I think that's one reason they've kept me there for forty years. They know, well, they know no doubt because you're you're a rare breed. I mean, realize how many pastors, I mean pastors are anybody, politics, way of life that have that kind of integrity and can be that vulnerable and honest with the people that they influence, even their own families, you know, even mothers and fathers and dads, you know, who are the leaders of their home. Sometimes they just they have so much arrogance that they can't be vulnerable enough to be honest with their with their wives or their kids, say hey, you know what I messed up. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, you're right, and listen. And I'm not saying like as if I've got it captured.

35:51 I'm just saying, I know this is this is what we all deal with down here on earth. Yeah, I was just getting ready to say this. Go to what you just said. Everybody has an ego, but not everybody is egotistical. You see what I mean. In other words, we all have egos. Nobody likes to be cussed out or corrected or shown that they're wrong. Nobody likes that. Or have a whistle blown in their ear right. Yeah, something like that. But you know, there was a movie one time. I watched it years ago, so if but the guys were talking and the guy says, yeah, hard times brings out the chumps, you know. And so we're living in hard times. So we're hearing the whiny babies, we're hearing the karens, we're hearing the you know, politically, biblically, we're hearing preachers preach false doctrine. And I don't think they're meaning to. They just don't know the word they think they do. They misquote it, they take it out of context. People are confused. I'm telling you, we're living in the most prophetic time since the first Coming of Jesus, and everything that's happening in our life was office by the word of God and most of it out of the mouth of Jesus. And so stay with us.

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41:09 Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Carl Gallups, the senior pastor at Hickrahamic Church and also a celebrated author and decorated former law enforcement officer. Highly decorated and respected, and it's always an honor to have him on the show here, Carl, speaking of things that are kind of bizarre and false prophets and everything. One of the big headlines this past week was the Pope thought he should enter in in the conversation. And what people don't understand was the day before and I don't know if you were aware of this, David Axelrod met with the Pope in Rome. So what what what? What? What do you think if that influenced the Pope's statement and his I think an inopportune statement to kind of attacked Trump and what Trump's doing.

42:03 Well, yeah, listen, I'm aware of all of this. Yes, in what I'm going to give is my opinion. See, that's how you're supposed to do it. This is my opinion, right, I'm not claiming this is true, but in my opinion, some of his statements I think were misplaced and maybe a little out of line. I'm not there to tell the Pope how to do his job. But in pastors, preachers, evangelicals can get caught up in the same thing. But tennis players, tennis players, Carl, Remember they tried to get the tennis players to talk against Trump, and most of them they saw it. They saways happen to say I'm here to play tennis. They stayed in their lane. A couple of them, you know, had to get out of the lane.

42:44 And that's it. And the thing is, it's a fine line sometimes about if you're speaking to biblical matters or biblical scripture and prophecy that deals with geopolitical matters, political matters, life matters, the relevancy of all of this to life, that's totally within the pope's wheelhouse. Yeah, I mean you should have the ability to say. Now, I don't often agree with the Pope on a lot of things, but that's just me, you know, And I'm sure he doesn't agree with a lot of things I say about the Word of God, for example, But I don't hate him. I don't hate all Catholics. You know, people ask me, well, do you think all Catholics are going to Hell? I say, no, more than I think all Baptists are going to Heaven.

43:25 What are you asking that question for. I mean, it's stupid. People are stupid about those kind of things. But anyway, back to your concern, No, it concerned me that he would step over into areas that really are not his job description, and he really didn't give it a whole lot of biblical precedent backing. It was just as sounded like somebody had gotten a hold of him, fed him some communist, socialist liberal talking points, got him riled up, and he comes out and says yeah, and then makes this speech, and I just my jaw was on the ground. Yeah. It was unfortunate because I think the opportunity had was, you know, as as Catholics were all praying for peace, Yes, it would have been a better response, and it would would have been in his appropriate lane. But unfortunately, I mean it was like the Catholics didn't look good between that and then you had three radical you had three radical cardinals, you know, talking about open borders and you know, things like and of course the whole situation with N. G. O.

44:30 S and the Catholic Church involved with immigration the way it is, it stinks to high Heaven. And by the way, the Vatican. By the way, the Vatican has huge walls and they don't let people in that they don't want, right, So I mean, why are they preaching to the world or to the United States. You can't have walls. You got to let everybody in. Well you first, yeah, well, I mean the world's crazy. Brother. Yeah, it really is. And meanwhile, I mean they, you know, the media is still going crazy because you know, Trump found a way to get the negotiators to the negotiating table by telling him that he was going to destroy a civilization, as if they hadn't already themselves forty seven years earlier when the Iatole came in, destroyed the Iranian civilization as they knew it, did he not?

45:19 Yes, no, no, you're absolutely right. And of course people just don't understand Trump. And listen, I'm not hit a sycophant. I'm not on his staff to be his pr person. It's just that I get him. I mean, I listen, I lived up North for ten years, and I know how a lot of those people are. They're direct, they're black and white. They say what they think. And I'm down here in the South now where people kind of sugarcoat it and pour syrup on it. They stab you on the back, but they do it with sugar. You know, two different cultures. And so this boy is a fighter from New York, you know, and he's and he's worked worldwide before he was ever in politics and known by important people. Billionaire, you know, architect, and builder. So I get it when there's so many things that I wish he wouldn't say, don't say that, don't say it like that.

46:14 So when he talked about destroying the whole civilization, this is what he meant. In fact, later he came out and said it, but I kind of translated it for him before before I heard him say it. All he was saying was you see what we've already done. We've taken out the leadership. They're the ones that want to kill Israel and kill the United States. They want nukes that'll blow up the world. That's part of their fanatical religion. They want their mahadi to come back in order. From the site response, you know, Israel has to go, the United States has to go. So what he's talking about the civilization is is this cultural schiite understanding that is pushed upon you other your Iranians by these malas, this religious atrocity, this abomination. That's what he meant. He didn't mean he's going to drop a nuke and kill every Iranian.

47:04 That didn't even enter his mind. Yeah, like there was. Yeah, But see what happens is the left and the media is so easily triggered if he says anything, they just you know, that's their perception, their work view. Like there's no indication in any time, in any time that the first administration and what he's doing. Now, look at how many peace you know, how many wars did he settle in the first couple of months of this current administration. Carl, Yeah, I know. Let me give a little context of that too. Think about this. I know you've said this many times than I have, but I want your audience to continue to think about this. He had a first term and he did a really good job. I mean, most of America loved him, and that's why the machine went in in twenty twenty to change the election and all that. And now we've got more and more evidence that that's exactly what happened, right, because the left are embarrassing themselves and they know it. And Donald Trump every time he's in office, this is his second time he embarrasses the fire out of them. By success, your best vengeance is to be successful. Exact everything he's been doing has been successful or will become successful. For example, oil is going up right now. Yeah, Well, why because of all of the hormone strait and all of the oil manufacturers and buyers around the world. It's a mess right now.

48:29 But when this is all straightened now, it'll all come plummeting back down again and the oil will open. But and the Left know that, and they also know the midterms are coming up and everything Trump. The border crossers are down to almost zero. Millions of them have left the country on their own, and others have been transported out. Just today I read in Fox News nine more drug runners were blown out of the water coming from you know, I guess Cuba or wherever. But the bottom line is they're coming in with drugs in America, fittinol and stuff that will kill your children and grandchildren. They want to do it, and they're constantly blowing him out of the water.

49:11 So the bottom line is the Left hate him because he makes them look horrible. They tried to kill him, brother, They put a bullet in his head. He just turned his head. But if he hadn't able to have gone right there on live television, then that's what they did to Charlie Kirk. Then they tried it again on Trump at a golf course, I mean, brother. Then they try to pen all kinds of illegal stuff on him that the courts didn't even have jurisdiction, and everybody on the left was saying, he's going to prison. We promise you he will be in prison. He will never be president again, he can never run for public office. Well, he overcame all of that. He is president and he's changing the world. Now.

49:52 I don't think he's an angel from heaven. Here's what he is. He's a great president. I voted for a resident. I didn't vote for a pastor or Sunday school teacher or somebody singing in the choir. Now, if he was one of those kind of people, that would be awesome, but he's not. But I did not want Biden and Kamala Harris and Obama and Obama's wife and all these people. They were floating out there. Oh no, no, Can you imagine where we would. Be right exactly? No question of them were in power. Carl. Bottom line is I think they're scared out of their skulls that Trump's going to finally expose the infrastructure of the Democratic Party. Apparatchick, listen, listen.

50:34 I'm just going to say this. This may be the first time any of your people have heard it. I know that Donald Trump and Sheriff Joe Opira were real, real good friends. And Donald Trump knows everything that our pile knows from that investigation. I know a ton of it myself because I was involved in it at their sheriff's request, and the chief investigator, you know a lot of this. I just I could be wrong. I don't have any inside scoop other than what I just said that's inside scoop, and it is absolutely true. I think they're terrified that Obama is going to be exposed to and his whole regime, that he's part of the deep state. Oh, without a doubt, our pyo uncovered it. Got forty page affid davits from top top I'm trying to be careful here top top investigative agencies. One from overseas, one from in the United States. Both of them have credentials to testify by the Supreme Court of the United States to them and or to bring cases before the courts of the European Union. So these are sharp companies that have forty page affidavits that they gave to the Sheriff's office saying this guy is a fraud. And I mean and Trump knows this. He knows every detail of it. But after knowing if I was Trump, after knowing that, I'm not saying Obama did this or any person, but somebody,

52:05 somebody lined up assassination attempts, somebody we know who charged him with false charges, tried to put him in prison. It was the left. It was the left under Biden's regime. So you know, you know, even going back, even going back, you see Donald Trump's actions. What not Donald Trump? What Obama did you know that set up the Russian collusion and all that. Yeah, and his fingerprints are all around. He's the one that dropped off billions of dollars on the tarmac to Iran, and Yahoo came to the United States, spoke to Congress and said, please get your president not to do this. They will nuke us. They won, they will use this money for nukes. And Obama laughed at him and called him some nasty names. And now we know that's exactly what they were doing. And they were getting ready to wipe Israel off the map, and they were coming for us next. They said so, and Donald did what had to be done, and he did it like a man, and he's still doing it like a man.

53:02 He doesn't care what people think. He cares about his family, your family, his children, our children, his grandchildren, our grandchildren, and the posterity of our nation. That's what he cares about. It's what leadership looks like, Carla. Yes, that's what real and the and the leftists don't know what real leadership looks like. They shift with the wind. Everybody tells on each other if it's expedient. It's just unbelievable. So so the differences between the people on the right and the people on the left. I'm not saying Republicans and Democrats. You can get an R or a D, buy your name by going to the courthouse and changing your your affiliation. I'm talking about. You can see the character difference, you can see the agenda difference.

53:44 Now we're living, we've been, we've been, we've been saying you're either American or anti American. Yeah, that's it. That's it. And you know, and I've said this before, I don't need I don't vote for a pastor to be president. Now, if if there was a guy that had a good constitutional mind, loved America, plus sang in the choir and taught Sunday school, that'd be great. The only two presidents in our lifetime this sang in the choir and talt Sunday School was Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter. I mean, people say, well, Ronald Reagan, no, he didn't know, he never went to church. His wife brought in astrologers and is one of the best presidents. I mean, you know, he protected us, and I can say this. People said, well, you think Donald Trump's a Christian. I don't know if he is or not. He says he is, other people say he is. But here's the deal. Here's the deal.

54:36 If he is, he's a baby Christian. And I'm not trashing him. I'm just saying he came to Christianity then in his late seventies early eighties, so he doesn't seem to be that way. But the deal is he does protect Christianity, the Christian Church, the Christian people, so he's we kind of hired him as a secure reguard for the church. Kamala Harris would not be that. Joe Bot was definitely not that. Neither was Obama. I mean, the horrendous things they did against people of faith in some of it in law, it was horrendous so exactly, we're living in extremely prophetic times, brother, I mean, the Word of God prophesied everything we're talking about, if not by name, at least in the general understanding of it.

55:27 And here we are, as you said, we're in the middle of it. How exciting. And so the challenge is we need to be in line in alignment with what God's will is right now in this season, right right now. That's it. You're absolutely right, brother, you're a good preacher man stuff. He always going to have you with us. Carl Gallup, Senior Pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida. Also he is a Amazon Top sixty best selling author, former decorated Florida law enforcement officer in two different offices. Oh, by the way, and the one and only Carl Gallups. Thank you, Carl, appreciate you, Thank you. Bill, thank you for having me. Yeah, the Lord, Brother, God.

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56:56 Eight hundred two eighty four one three four nine, eight hundred eight four one three four nine, eight hundred two eighty four one three four nine. That's eight hundred two eighty four thirteen forty nine. Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live. Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes after the top of the hour, Bill Martinez here and back with it's been a minute since we've got a chance to talk with doctor HS, but we got him back to talk about we're gonna have about chem tracks. But there's been such a controversy over the years, and so many people have looked at this and considered it. You get all kinds of opinion. You and I have discussed this many times that in the absence of fact, opinion rules and when it comes to chemtrails, all kinds of misinformation and opinions flying around. But you've got some receipts to share with us this time, doctor.

57:51 H Absolutely, sir, and thanks for having me on Bill. And yes it has been a minute. I'm grabbing those receipts right now my wall that I keep them posted right next to my desk. But yes, we've had some incredible things. So one of the things that we did last year was we said, you know, Dane Wiggington, and I keep giving credit to Dane Wiggington at Geoengineering Watch because he did he was the first person actually fly a plane into a KIM trail with a probe and say well, what's coming out? Yeah, And so we started seeing aluminum, we started seeing barium, we started seeing strontium. And you know what, I think the thing that we have to start understanding first is the number one implication for neurodegenerative disease. We're talking Alzheimer's, we're talking Parkinson's, We're talking that that class is that illuminum is the big problem.

58:38 And when you start looking at his samples, and his work that he did in the great documentary the Dimming. You see that aluminum was far and away the highest heavy metal, and then you see a little bit of barium. And where do we usually come in contact with barium? Well, usually that's going to be the contrast dies for imaging and things like that. And so I'm like, well, you know it's been. One of the things that it's done is Barriam has said, you know what, we don't need any contrast dye. All right, if you're gonna get some imaging, do it without contrast. It only minimally improves the imaging. So please stay away from that. It's not worth it the risk reward. It's just there. I mean, all you're doing is putting a heavy metal in the body that is going to make you more susceptible to the five G, the six G, the W band, the next read. All these EMFs were getting hit and so we have to understand there's a connection between these two. And my suspicion and and you know, I have a little bit of evidence to support this in my research, is that they put the heavy metals in the sky so that not only it not only is it poisoning US. But it also allows them to push the jet stream north and south. And when you can control where the jet stream of air current flows, you control where the weather goes. And that's where the right So it's just makes sense. Well, then later, you know, Mike Adams Health Ranger does some great work and they find some they get some of the skyfall and his lab analyzes that and what did they find the same thing? Aluminum, barium, strontium.

1:00:10 But really it's aluminum overwhelming more than anything else. So and how long how long have we known this? I mean we've had suspicions, you know, for decades, I think, you know, but this kind of stuff that you're talking about right now, obviously, I mean it's been in the environment, it's been measurable. I mean, is it just a case of people aren't interested, you know, don't don't look, don't see, don't tell. Well, I think what's been fascinating is that when you go into our country's laws the United States Code USC nine was it nine to a USC fifteen I think or something like that. It's the Weather Modification Act. And the Weather Modification Act actually dates back to nineteen seventy two.

1:00:56 So we've been doing this since at least nineteen seventy two. When you into World War two, you start seeing that we've been doing weather modification or at least exploring it since nineteen forty five. Most countries like Saudi Arabia and some of these other China, they admit openly to doing it. I mean, we have companies that openly trade on the Stock exchange that do it. But it was our government that said, you know in nineteen eighties that you know, when people start seeing these straight you know, clouds going, what's that. They were like, Oh, it's just conspiracy theory, which of course is a CIA term. So it's been it dates back. But the reality is, I think that it wasn't until Dane Wickington actually stepped in in that first study and said, look, this is definitive, and then he connected it to the companies that were producing the nanoparticulates that it became like, Okay, this is more real than I think anybody ever wanted to admit. It's the same kind of revelation that's going on with vaccines. I mean, all of this stuff is really nice.

1:01:54 Exactly, hey, real quick, because we jumped into this, we jumped into the deep end of the poll. Right, I'm so excad that we probably need to make sure our audience is up to speed with us. Let's go to the basics. What is a chim trail? Okay, So a kim trail is also known as a cumulus homogenitis, and that is a man made cloud, a kim trail, and the easy way to determine it. And I was in a documentary with Ariana Victor. She did a great one called just Look Up you know that I was in and the question that she had for me that was kind of funny. It was she was like, well, how do we know that it's a kim trail or a contrail? And I'm like, okay, well it's super simple.

1:02:38 The contrail will evaporate and go away, it'll disappear, kim trail stays and then what you see is the cloud that starts out straight, it disperses, and now you get these other kind of clouds and you get this weird looking sunlight. And this is the whole Bill Gates. Let's dim everything because we have to slow climate change. That's all nonsense. That's not what they're doing. They're just they're actually with with that technology. It's called specifically stratospheric aerosol injection, that's its technical name. And what they are spraying in the sky are little nanoparticles that are also called cloud condensation nuclei. So you put a little particle, little nanoparticle in the sky, well what's going to happen is water is going to coalesce around it, and now you get the formation of a cloud, you know, they or what would appear to be a cloud. And then that's also where you start seeing. You might notice some days where it's heavy cab trail spraying, you might notice that it looks like there's like two or three suns out there because of all the reflections that are going off of the little nanoparticles. So it's basically if you see a nice puffy cloud, you know, our old childhood clouds, you know, those probably aren't necessarily kim trails. But if you see a plane spraying something in the sky, it stays straight and it doesn't evaporate, it just disperses out, and you know it's a case.

1:04:08 Let me let me ask you this because you bring up something and the thought comes to mind, is that when a cloud forms around this camtrail, is it a way of the Is it kind of a healing agency of the environment to protect itself from something foreign that shouldn't be there? Oh well, absolutely, well think of it like this. There's a forest fire. Let's say lightning strikes. You get a you know, forest fire that comes up. Now the forest is burning. What the forest does is that you start seeing all the plumes of smoke go up. Those are particulates going up into the atmosphere. Well that's for a reason, because the condensation will happen at the upper elevations and then rain will happen over that fire to put that fire out.

1:04:51 So the forests crying out, send rain, right, send rain. We need some brain, right, we can need some rain, so hit us with it. So this is the whole. Ex They can't figure that out yet, no reason, I don't know. The forest just does not speak, you know, the right kind of environment to get the rain to come there. Because even if they get it, they didn't know what to do with it. That that state is just so confused. Well California, Yeah, and as a former Californian, that's where I was born, and we left intelligently, right, all the intelligent people leave California. So the reality is simply this. They're taking a natural phenomenon. They are playing God, which they have no right to do, and they're doing it without any societal permission. So it's not we have no say in this. There's no punishment for doing this. It's a part of our laws that justify its application. Blah blah blah blah blah. And and the thing that is so disconcerting about it, Bill is that they could use a different condensation nuclear. It doesn't have to be aluminum.

1:05:54 They could use copper, they could use something else that actually has health benefits for the people, health ite fits for the soil, and then we would just have to really debate, well, where are we pushing water to back and forth? But really that's not what's going on. Let's go, let's go to quick break. We'll pick it up on other Can we get more from Doctor h after this? Stayle at Cole's Spring Style starts with the season's best shoe sale and continues with fifteen percent off the. Rest of your looks, but with great outfits from Coals. What happens next is unexpected Strangers ask where you shop. The breeze feels like it's blowing just for you your kids post for photos willingly.

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1:10:46 Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Henry Healing, founder of the Energetic Health Institute, a teacher and healer, and you can check out his website for more information. You need to make note of it because you're going to want to reference it, especially after our conversation and we've just barely touched the tip of the of the chemtrail. Here Energetic Healthinstitute dot org is the website. Doctor. You also use the term contrail, So I want to make sure our audience understands the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail, and maybe some of the media, the way they put out fake information might be conveniently confusing the two. Right. It just comes down really simply when you see a straight line coming out of a plane and it disappears contrail.

1:11:32 The reason that it's a contrail, and the reason it disappears is because there's no nano particulate in the exhaust, so there's nothing that's going to the upper atmosphere. You know, vapor is going to be able to wrap around. Right. Compare that with a kim trail that coming out of a plane, straight line again, and what you'll see is that it stays, and it stays for an extended period of time, a very extended period of time, and then starts to spread out and be come diffuse in the sky. Very simple to do. And what I tell everybody is this, God does not build in straight lines. That's how you know. That's how you know it's man made and there's no you know, middle ground with it.

1:12:14 Who's paying for these. Airport are we have America. This is American taxpayer funded self depopulation. This is definitely American taxpayer funded, absolutely. And it's it's a a eugenics move. This is a true eugenics move. And thank you for bringing that word up. Here's this whole word that people have out there, and it's like, well, what is eugenics really? When you think of eugenics, you're thinking about the highest form, the most destructive form of racism there could ever be. It actually bleeds into a classism where it's about how much money do you have in your account and not. They only want to keep people with a certain level of bank account status and everybody else is now just posable because they feel like they have entered into the age of artificial intelligence and robotics and now the workforce is replaceable and can be under their full dominion, which they've never been able to do in our known history, you know, stating all the way back to the Egyptians.

1:13:16 Well, population growth has driven them crazy. Bill Gates has been noted, you know, to respond to this. They were going nuts when the population of the world got to two billion. We're now over eight billion, So they've got to be totally catatonic because they just believe in their own estimation it's unsustainable in their Earth's mind. They believe that the earth cannot sustain eight billion. But look what we're doing. I mean, we've got more people eating. We've got plenty of food for people. The thing that's been getting in the way or governments and people that want to kill their own. People, right, And this is where who gave them dominion? They exactly, they gave them dominion. And if we're not willing to hold them accountable for what is murder, I mean, we can't call it anything other than what it is.

1:14:00 And uh, then we're we are going to go the way of the Dodo. You know, people like you and me are not going to be here, and so they have to They have multiple it's a multiple pronged strategy. It involves social engineering of course, with the the DEI and things like that. It involves you know, vaccination. Clearly Bill Gates has been on records saying we can lower population vaccination. Nobody really called him on that. You know. It definitely includes these new cell phone towers and this web, this invisible web of electricity that's all around the alternating current electricity that's all around us, and it definitely includes things like them. What you're seeing in the sky is fumigation. What would you do if you had a bug, You'd spray it. That's what they think. So we're bugs or they're going to sprays. So but to bring it back to what we what you originally had brought up, Bill, we we did some experimenting ourselves and what happened was, you know, you have Daane Wiggington confirming something. You have Mike Adams confirming something with the sky, you know, getting a little snow cloud that doesn't melt. You know, you've seen these things where I can't believe. I had an argument with somebody about but tane. They said that buttane wouldn't melt a snowball and a and I'm like, that's absurd, you know, like it's it's just temperature. It's you know we're talking about you know, is that twelve hundred degrees or something like that fahrenheit. You know it's gonna melt.

1:15:23 So they're like they're like, oh, no, it would just burn it. I'm like, no, that it burns plastic. So anyway, so what we did was I was wondering what comes out in our sweat because my my thought, Bill always becomes how can I help the people? How can I how can we find solutions to get this stuff out because it's getting in no matter what you want to do, it's going to get it. And so one day after a heavy kim trail sprang. The next day I went and gotten my sauna INFRARETSNA and collected sweat samples of you, which was not the easiest thing to do. Uh, send it off to a lab doctor's data and talk to the lab guys there. I was like, Hey, this is a sweat sample. Can we test it for heavy metals?

1:16:04 And they're like, yeah, of course we can. It's just a fluid. Well, we'll be able to tell you what's in it. I'm expecting to see basically next to nothing, Bill, Right, I'm expecting to see next to nothing. Because you're out in Arizona, right. So yeah, it's like, hey, it shouldn't be a problem. Yeah, this is nothing. So our first, our first test we ran actually came back aluminum was two thousand, seven hundred and thirty eight nanograms per gram, which was enormously high and enormously higher than any other heavy metal that we tested for. So it was like, oh my god, wow, that just happened the kim trail in this. So that's that's but that's one data points. You're like, I can't overreact.

1:16:46 So then what we did was we said, well, let's see what happens when there's like no kim trails for like six days in a row, you know, let's let's make sure there's no kim trails. Let's repeat the tests and see are we still coming out at two thousand you know, you know, and just see that was there's no correlation there. Well, when we did that six days, no kim trails, sweat tests, same exact methods, everything, aluminum only came out at two hundred and eighty one nanograms per gram, so it's about a tenfold drop. So its okay. So so it went down right, So I'm like, okay, that's great, and now let's do it again. Let's test, let's repeat the test. And so we repeat the test and after day after kim trail sprang two thousand, nine hundred and fifty eight nanograms per gram. So so what we so that that helped us a lot with two very important things for your audience Number one, we have a way to get aluminum out of the system, this nano illuminum out. That's great. Simply put, the first step is get yourself sweating, get yourself into a sauna. Is within twenty four hours of seeing a kim trail, like that's my habit. Now I see a kim trail, I'm there.

1:18:00 Second thing was that we followed this up with some urine testing, and we want to want to see what are as another way that the body can get rid of this stuff, and so we correlated it not with kim trails, but we correlated it with the use of boron because we wanted to do was we're concerned about the size of the metal being able to embed itself long term in the cell. That's the big concern, especially when we're talking about a nervous system, and especially when we're talking about for our seniors and really anybody over forty at this point, I mean, you're talking about rapid accumulation of aluminum. We got to get this stuff out.

1:18:41 So what we did was we turned up the dial on dosing of boron for a short period of time a couple of days, and we prove that you can actually keelate, which is how to remove heavy metals from the body by using boron. You don't need to use these very strong and very harsh synthetic compounds. You can actually just use minerals with the correct electrical charge on them to get this stuff out. So it's very exciting. It's the first test I've ever heard of anywhere exactly proving this right. Yeah, so we. We got about a minute and a half left here, so okay. Well yeah, no, no, it's great. Let's wrap it up for everybody. Two things new, so situation, you see a kim trail, what do you do? Number one, make sure you sweat for about thirty minutes with it in an infrared sauna.

1:19:29 Get that stuff out and SIMP infrared sauna. Important to purchase in this dan and age. Important to have. One second thing our recommendation has become and I can tell you what I do is I take twelve to eighteen milligrams of boron on kim trail days as a preventative for the aluminum being able to bind. And for anybody who wants to learn more about this, just come and hang out with us at the Energetic Health Institute. We have a wonderful membership starting May fifth. For situations just like this, we can keep teaching Americans how to be healthy in this age of bioweapons. Again, ladies and gentlemen, Unfortunately, our country operates on greed, and so the axiom of following the money once again hits you right between the eyes. There are people there that do not care about Americans at large. They're anti American, they're anti human, and they're very dangerous and they are amongst us. So we need to protect ourselves. And again, the website you need to go to is Energetic Health Institute dot org and doctor H and his team will take care.

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1:24:41 Nutrition for Patriots. And We're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with Jeff Kemp, the ministry leader and author. A mister Jeff, now we doing t good? How are you, Bill Hey? Having all kinds of fun? I'll tell you it adds your still spinning over the controversy, you know, and you know between the Pope and Donald Trump, and you know, Frankly is a Catholic. I was disappointed. I had shared with some men. I said, I'd much rather had the Pope say, look at. You know, as Catholics, we believe in peace, and we're praying for peace, and that's all had to be said. He got caught to me when I look at, and I had a hard time. Was interesting how the media and social media and you know, Gronk and other you know, search engines, how they've been handling this deal. It's like they're protecting a narrative. And it's hard to get a specific transcript on exactly what the Pope said and what Donald Trump said a lot of commentary. But as I shared with some men, I said, look at, you got to get the context. You got to understand what's going on. But first of all, you can always tell when things are of humankind, and that is that peace doesn't come into the environment. It creates quarrels.

1:26:00 Is two Timothy writes about and so that should be quite telling there. So to say that again, peace doesn't come into the environment, it creates quarrels. What are you saying, Well, what I'm saying is that I said that when you have human when you have human opinions and contact coming into play as opposed to spiritual and godly counsel and wisdom. Like for example, the tennis tournament in Australia, right the tennis players they were asked about Trump and they go, what are you talking about? We're here to play tennis. Where did that come from? You know? Kind of they stayed in their lane, They stayed focused, stay true to what they were there to do. And I think that that's a good example for many people, especially you know, some people that are important positions, whether it's the president or it's you know, a religious figure like the Pope, that there is a lane that you must honor and stay true to. When you get out of that lane, then you create controversy and you leave yourself unprotected because what happens, like you know, like we learn about our spiritual walk is that we are to submit.

1:27:11 When you submit to God, you submit to his protection and you're not gonna you know. And again, he may be the pope and some people think, well, you know, all honor and glory. But again, in Catholic terms, the only time the pope is infallible with issues of that have to do with doctrine, not with political opinion. So when he gets into the political realm, then he opens himself and he comes out from the covering of God because he's not submitting to God. Does that make sense? No, I hear you. I was just thinking of a Bible verse that talks about not considering things that are too large and too great for me, and that sounds to me like it's those things that are outside of the realm of my dominion. Okay, And you're speaking about there's a dominion that the pope represents of ecclesiastical theological leadership.

1:28:08 There's a dominion that a president has which doesn't cross into explaining theological things. It's right with geopolitical and national things. I'm looking for that verse. And why you look for that verse? You know, the thing is that you would hope, especially when you are in your own lane, whether it's the pope in his lane. Is that you would have people that would come alongside and say, you know, look at I know, this is a tough time for you. You're having a challenge dealing with this. I'm just praying that God would give you wisdom and insight to find this solution right and to be able to communicate that to, you know, to the body of the church. And the same thing with the president.

1:28:49 I mean, Donald Trump's been dealing with all kinds of stuff with Iran and trying to navigate these you know, the crazy IRGC and these people that are just hungry for power, they're desperate, and you know, we've been dealing with these people. But for forty seven years, millions of people have died, maybe not millions, but certainly hundreds of thousands of people have died because of their terrorist activities all combined. And you know, instead of having somebody, I mean, poor Donald Trump, I say that and say, if you, oh, poor Donald Trump. You know, here's trying to save the world, save our country, keep you know, a nuclear weapon out of the hands of a terrorist group. And it's bad enough he's got his own own politicians here in America.

1:29:33 You got the media and Now you got the pope who the day before meets with David Axelrod, a democratic operative, and then the next day he comes out with this, and it's like, uh not, no boint. I found the passage in the English Standard version of the Bible. Actually, I've got the home in Christian Standard Bible. This is David in the Psalms. He says, Lord, my heart is not proud, my eyes are not haughty, which is an arrogance that I know everything. I do not get involved with things too great or too difficult for me, and other versions Internet isv my heart is not arrogant, nor do I look in haughty ways. I do not aspire to great things or concern myself with things beyond my ability, basically outside of my lane. I'm going to leave sovereignty over the world to God. I'm going to focus on my wife, my children, my neighborhood. Okay, I'm a citizen in America. I will vote. I may run for school board, I may run for state legislature, I may run for Congress. If I run for Senate or become a judge, then I am accountable to deal with issues that come before that body. Right, But if I

1:31:05 am a pastor or a priest, or a cardinal or a pope, then you're not necessarily more holy than David who wrote the Psalms. So you concern yourself with the things that concern you. Now. Donald Trump has so many stylistic flaws that he's easy to pick on, and I think he deserves to be called out when he makes insensitive and you know ad hominem attacks on people, etc. But you're right about the responsibility of fighting for freedom, trying to end terrorism, to stabilize a part of the world that has created instability. And if you take a look at Iranian people that live in America oro have left their nation, they're celebrating the opportunity that perhaps those evil regimes would be ending.

1:32:05 Exactly, it be a. True chance for freedom, freedom of religion, even you know, the Muslim religion isn't free to be practiced without the jihadic intense craziness, the extremists. And you can find many Muslim people in different parts of the world, even though you could critique the religion all the way back to Muhammad, who practice something very different than what that extreme group of leaders in Iran is practiced. So freedom is something that people want, and that's what the president and the policy is intended to create. And your point of each of us stay in our lane makes sense. What are popes for? Therefore, praying for presidents and everyone should be praying for presidents and people.

1:32:54 That's scriptural, right, exactly, And of course it's also scriptural in the Book of Romans it says God is the one who establishes government and gives them the power to wield the sword. Right, because this was one of the things that Pope had said something about, you know, God doesn't answer prayers for war. Well, that's not true because throughout the Old Testament time and again the children of Israel conducted war and God was leading the way for them. So, you know, it just some of those things where you get you know, the emotions come up, you get out of your lane, you say, goofy things and things that you think, gosh, this is coming from you know, a religious leader. You would expect a higher deal, just in the same way that we expect a higher level. You know, if Donald Trumps president of the United States, but Donald Trump's Donald Trump. You know, he is who he is.

1:33:44 And the fact of the matter is, yes, he says things that, you know I and immediately I pray for him, and he says, hey, we're going to destroy an entire civilization. Now I get I knew what he meant, but I also knew what the Democrats were going to do with it. And sure enough in the media and everything like that, and it's like, well, wait a minute. You know, think about it that the Molas the Ayatola forty seven years ago erased an entire civilization, the Persian civilization, Iran as they knew it. They just destroyed it and took over with this. So you know the context and the bottom line of what Donald Trump was trying to do with his rhetoric, bombastic as it is, because that's who he is.

1:34:28 He got them to the bargaining table. They said, God, this guy's crazy enough, maybe we better talk to him. Right. Yeah, this is complicated for us to parse out as much as to say, a we pray for spiritual leaders, Yeah, we expected them. They're not infallible. Jesus was infallible, and the Word of God is infallible. We pray for political and governmental leaders, and we pray that God would move leaders into and out of power and give them the guidance the wisdom and humility to govern. Well, we should critique, I think in a way that is very humble and realizing.

1:35:11 You know, but for the grace of God, if I was in that position, what would I do? Yeah, exactly, They'd be talking about you and me, about the lane we wouldn't stay in. Of course, of course your show isn't afraid to talk about the issues of the day, but avoiding the bombastic ad hoc attacks, ab hominem attacks of emotion. And that's what's dominating today. And I think it's because the environment on anonymous social media gets everyone more riled up. I even went to a homeowner association meeting in my nice little neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, and so many people there started off with total skeptical, accusatory questions of the homeowner's board members and the builders who built the neighborhood.

1:36:00 And I was like, gosh, that's the same tone I see on the internet. We're just a bunch of neighbors. Can't we ask questions and politeness? And I want this show, I want my role, I want the way you and I speak to contribute to you. Let's pray for those in authority let's stay in our lane. Let's bring biblical wisdom and civility to every issue, which means we can speak truth, we can debate. My gosh I used to debate political issues intensely, but he always respected the person right. Well, after it's all said and done, my prayer is that we'd find peace, okay, because that's when you know that God is in the center of the solution. That's what my earlier point is that are we coming to peace?

1:36:45 And because when we're at peace, we're a powerful force, a powerful force for good because we're partnering with God, because God is peace right. Yeah, Well, God is a deeper perspective of peace than what the world looks at. The world says a lack of conflict is peace. But if a group of people are in agreement over doing evil, that that isn't true peace. Exactly, peace is shalom. It is the presence of God, the peace of God. It's not just temporary, it's eternal. There will never be perfect peace on earth until Jesus returns.

1:37:26 Exactly grades things and God's full justice will come. And the Bible says, over and over, leave justice to me God. God is the only one perfect and pure enough to handle justice. Because he knows the hearts of all men. He does, and he will. He will pay back the rapists and the murderers and the sex traffickers and uh, the sexists and the discriminatory people, and those who have stolen and used and abused people. And we don't executan justice perfectly. Well, that's why we leave it up to the courts and a jury of your peers. And why grace and forgiving works much better for humans, because it's the kindness of God that leads to repents, being kind to another personal different political persuasion, and respecting their human dignity, not just label them a category. That's going to be more effective. And it's also important bill in family relationships because these days many young generations, not unlike the Vietnam generation or generations before, have turned against their parents, and they're vehemently angry at their parents for their political views, or their moral views, or their religious views. But there's this new thing called cancel your parents.

1:38:42 Oh, cancel your parents. Canceling your parents is writing off that relationship. I can't deal with you if your values are voting for Donald Trump or whatever it is. We need to let people know you're cutting off your foot despite your nose. You know we're damaging human relationships over issues and ideology, and that is the opposite of peace. We can have shalam of relationships even when ideas and opinions are different. So let's represent the peace of Christ right in every relationship we can, which is correctly. Well, we got to wrap it up there, Jeff Kemp, thank you so much. As always, where can people go to be in touch with you? They can go to Jeff kempteam dot com jeffkempteam dot com and to strengthen their relationships of friendship go to Core three Coaching dot com and I'll coach people to deepen solid friendships every single week Core three Coaching.

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1:43:42 Mister Gary, how we doing. I am doing well. Hey, great to be talking to you. Lots to catch up on. JD. Vance, the Vice President United States, gave Focus a good little shout out here recently. Yeah, that was surprising and very very humbling and honoring for us to hear him. When asked right where he developed, how he developed as a younger man his political perspectives, he cited focus on the family and our founder, doctor James Dobson specifically in what he was talking about, because that's who was president of the organization when JD Vance was young. Exactly. Well, and of course we know JD Vance's story, you know from his book, his infamous book which really catapulted his career and brought him into the political scene.

1:44:35 Yeah, I mean hill Billy Elegy. He talks a lot about just the dysfunctions of his childhood. And one of the things that really struck us that focus when we heard that he mentioned us. In the context in which he mentioned us is that our own president, Jim Daily has some similar circumstances. Right. JD. Vance wrote a book called hill Billy Elegy, Jim's from California. He could maybe have done Hollywood Eligi. Elogy or something like that, right, Yeah. Because of the things that he went through, he went he and JD. Vance have more than a little bit in common in terms of dysfunctional childhoods. Right. And and of course, you know, for for JD. Vance, he had a lot of encouragement and some direction finding himself, you know, without really a true father figure for all ten purposes, right, yeah, oh.

1:45:24 For sure. I mean he he he leaned into what focus provided and what I thought was very interesting about his answer, right. This came during the Q and a portion of Vance's appearance at a Turning Point USA event, And while he was asked about where he developed his political perspectives, really what he talked about is he talked about what focused on the family provided him was a sense of belonging in the sense of even though he was from a quote unquote broken family, he himself wasn't broken. And I think that was really interesting because he was asked about politics, and really what he talked about is the sav for his heart that focus on the family provided And we've been doing that now for almost fifty.

1:46:05 Years, right well, because you know JD. Vance, like which seems to be the movement of a lot of young kids these days, he was in search for the truth and when he found the truth, it was that bomb of Gilead for his rounded soul, right. Oh for sure. And that bill is the thing that really meant the most to us. Yes, honoring, humbling that the Vice President of the United States would mention focus on the family as a huge influence in his life, especially his younger life. But the thing that that's not why we do what we do. It's nice to get those Ata boys, get those accolades, but we do it for our next door neighbors. We do it for average everyday Americans who may or may not likely may not grow up to be Vice President of the United States.

1:46:55 We help families thrive in Christ who are dealing with some of the same things that ad Vance dealt with, some of the same things that Jim Daily dealt with. Yeah, because whether you're a vice president or you know, whatever station in life, you may have. Last time I checked, you're still made in the image of God, right. Oh, absolutely, And that's you know, one of the things that we did when this came out, as we went and just looked through some of our impact letters of folks through the years. And here's an example. Not the Vice President of the United States, but a woman named Britt from Alabama wrote this to us once. I want you to know how very impactful Adventures and Odyssey has been for my children. As a single mom with two little ones, we have not had an easy life. My son is seven and without fail, we listened to your program every day. Because of the content you've delivered. My seven year old chose to pray and ask Jesus into his heart. That's where the rubber meets the road for focus on the family. Not in atta boys from the Vice President. As very moving and meaningful as that is.

1:48:00 That God says that look at if somebody helps you spiritually, that you should not hold back, that you should let him know. And so that's that's a command, uh, you know, a bit of advice and counsel from the word of God. So whether you happen to be the vice president of president of the United States, or in this particular case, a seven year old and oh yeah, by the way, speaking Adventures in Odyssey. Uh, if we can for just a moment, just uh a segue and and and we'll come back to the main topic here, but adventures. And you've got a movie coming out that uh has been inspired by Adventures in Odyssey, right, your first one. Yeah, well yeah, it's uh it's it's going to be a theatrical release this fall. And it's uh, it's it's it's a prequel, right, it happens all the time, uh in with I p you know, uh with with movies and characters. And we've done the Adventures in Odyssey uh radio theater forever. Uh, but now we're where there's a new animated film coming not this Fault, which tells the story of a young wit, the owner of the soda shop and adventures of Odyssey. But before that, Bill he was a secret agent and he taught and this movie really entirely new, some new characters, but a new perspective on the characters, you know. And it's uh, it's it's going to appeal both to kids today and kids who listened to Adventures in Odyssey when they were kids. Who are now not so much. Kids are a little bit older.

1:49:30 So we're really looking forward for folks being able to see. That well and recounting, like you said, it's not about awards. This is just about the lives of people. Uh and uh, you know doctor James Dobson in which the vision focused on the family has continued. Jim Daly has picked up the mantle and continues to run with it along with the team there in Colorado. And uh so, whether it's you know, broken marriages, crises with pregnancies, suicide, go right on down the list. Focus on the family has continues to be the vanguard of healing and peace for people in distress. Right.

1:50:12 Oh, absolutely, I mean it. It is a balm for people's hearts. And again that was the impressive thing to us when you listen to the comments Advice President Vance made. He was asked about his political views, but he didn't really talk about his political views. He talked about how he felt like he was okay, he felt like he was not less than which society made him feel like as a child who grew up the way that he did, he felt like he wasn't the broken toy. That's the phrase Jim Taylor. Jim Daly has used about his own life. When he became president of Focus on the Family, he was like, wait a minute, I'm not the good toy. I'm the broken toy. That was his initial reaction. So what Focus tries to do, what we've had great success praise the Lord in doing, is helping young people, help being their parents, helping husbands and wives realize that they're not broken toys either that there is a way back to thrive in Christ.

1:51:07 Well, I know, for you know, Jim Daily being a public figure, and you've got Jadie Vance a public figure telling their stories. I mean, the fact of the matter is is this and these stories, these testimonies that you begin to read about Briton, Alabama, there's so many others, other testimonies for people to realize that what you know, Jim and what jd Vance, they're in the position right now to come to the forefront to say, hey, this happened to me, and like you said, you know the way they we're treated as a broken toy or less than and that kind of deal. And you watch these men today and what an example and encouragement they are to others who may have considered them less than whose self esteem has been compromised. But here when they're attacked, how do they act. I mean they act as if they've been that that that's yesterday's news.

1:52:01 You know. They they don't they they're not living their life through their wound. They're living their life through their healing. Does that makes sense? Oh, for sure. They're not living their life through their wound. To your point, they're living their life through Christ's wounds, right, They're living their life through through the redemption that they've received through Jesus. I'll give you another example really quick. A woman named Nancy from Florida told us that our resources saved her marriage and her family, and she wrote this, I started listening to your show in the nineties when my marriage was in distress. After counseling and conduct and connecting with the local church, little by little, my marriage was restored. Today, all my children follow God so right. It helped her marriage, and that then sprinkled down through the biblical wisdom and counsel they focused on. The family offers is now landed. It landed with her children and the entire family has saved. That is why we do what we do. Again, great honoring that the Vice President would give us a shout out. But more important to us is the comments we hear every day from everyday Americans and people around the globe who have been helped by the biblical counsel and wisdom and perspective that Focus offers their families.

1:53:11 You see, And this is the thing, This is why family is so important, because the parents especially lead the example. Here is a family in distress, probably not a great example for the kids, and it was all in chaos. Probably you can only imagine what that family must have been going through. But as the family align themselves with Jesus Christ and godly principles, the parents get healed and now you know, they're an example to their children, and they bring their children into the church and in the presence of a holy God that heals their wounds as well. This is the way God operates, isn't it? Oh? For sure? And I'll give you an example, Bill, I haven't told anybody outside of the Focus offices this, so this is an exclusive to you outside the Barn of Focus.

1:54:01 You mentioned Jim and and and we've talked about his upbringing and he felt like he was the broken toy. Jim is now right now a book is being written. He is the subject of a book by an author who wrote two other books, The Faith of Condoleeza Rice. You might have heard of her, the Faith of Mike Pence. Folks who are listening may have heard of her. I mean him right now. They've she's written books on these two people. Now she's writing the book on the faith of Jim Daily and we're in the process of providing interviews for that. So that broken toy has now grown up to someone who whose faith is going to be spotlighted for people as as supernatural in the way that he's that he's lived his life and he's and he's led Focus. That's a very exciting thing for for us at Focus because it shows just exactly what God can do through men and women who are like Jim.

1:55:00 And what He does to all of us, regardless if you happen to be somebody of notoriety or you just are someone of consequence for a family, just somebody who goes to work every day, works hard, provides for their family, loves God, loves their family. We all have a testimony to share, and our prayer is is that you would share it with boldness, because that is something that the people of our country, if not the world, need to hear. Right, Gary, Oh, absolutely right. The Bible says we overcome by the word of our testimony, and not just the things we're facing, but the things other people are facing. We help people overcome by the word of our testimony, and that is exciting. Well, Gary, we got to leave it there. Gary Sneberger, Assistant to the President for Media relations that focus on the family. Where can they go for more information?

1:55:45 Gary, focus on the Family dot Com plenty of more information. They're including some stuff about the Adventures of Odyssey movie coming up this fall. Check it out. Thanks Gary, Take care of God bless you, my friend, God bless you. Streaming TV is where it's at. It's not about cutting the court anymore. That's old news. It's all about your customized TV options with the best and cheapest high speed internet and your own TV subscriptions. We've got your dream TV lineup between wired and satellite internet and TV. You now have tons of options, save money and get more internet speed and better TV today by calling the Whole Home Connect, we scan your location and offer you the best TV and internet options. And we always have specials and promotions, so when you call, ask about that. Take five minutes of your time. Make this free call now and learn how to save money and get better Internet and TV for your home anywhere in the US. Make this simple and free call now.

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