April 21, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 04 21 26

The Bill Martinez Show 04 21 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 04 21 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martina's Live a program about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Six minutes after the top of the hour, right now,

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Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here along

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with Epic Epic Times Investigative reporter, award winning journalist Joshua Phillip.

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Joshua always good to have you with us. How are you?

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It's always a pleasure and interesting times as always.

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Huh.

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Well, to say the least, I mean the straight of hormones.

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I guess Iran has surrendered a little bit and said,

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all right, we'll play nice and we'll leave it open.

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And the stock market is going crazy.

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You know my take on it.

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Iran didn't open the trade of horror moves. China forced

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Iran to open the Strait of horr MoES because I

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think Trump. When Trump, when Trump moved in and blockaded

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the blockade, all he was really doing was blocking the

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going to China Iran. Iran was letting that through. Trump said,

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no more of this, I'm blocking it unless you were

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unless you really want to unblock it, meaning no oil

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to China or oil to China, and everybody else, it's

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off the table. I think the CCP forced the hand

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to Beran on it because of that.

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What a brilliant move, huh from Trump.

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It's It's what I was suggesting he should do, because

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I was actually saying, it's ridiculous that Trump is allowing,

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you know, Iran to ship oil to China still despite

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the whole blockade, like they you know, they should be

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intercepting the Iranian ships. I think I think his move

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just blocking it was smarter than intercepting ships.

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Well, uh, how's your confidence level with the negotiators for Iran?

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Are you? Are you, like me, still a bit dubious

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or maybe a lot dubious.

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Well, you know, I've said it before and I'll say

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it again. Iran is not an independent country that they're

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very much dependent on China. A lot of a lot

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of their diplomatic decis visions will be the decisions of

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the Chinese Communist Party. And I think the reality is

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Trump's Trump has an upcoming meeting with she Jing Ping

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right now, you know, CS top leader. They don't want

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to fumble that because the Chinese economy is kind of

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dying right now.

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The CCP is even trying to.

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They even have new laws in place to prevent businesses

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from leaving China, like American manufacturers. Their real estate industry

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is dead, oil is basically dead. Like they're really they're

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really suffering, and they can't afford the straight of Hermus

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being locked down. I don't think they care so much

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about the terrorism thing. You know, China, they actually help

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with a lot of it, but they can't they cannot

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have the straight of Hermu's lockdown. So I think they

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will force the hand to be run. They're even saying

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that he runs willing to get willing to willing to

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get rid of their nuclear programs. But I think also

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oversight is going to be a huge part in that.

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Well, the other thing that got exposed in all this

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is that the ccp'sl terry industrial complex quite lacking.

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Huh yeah, well, you know that's been a big scandal

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in China. I can tell you among China watchers there's

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actually been news. It freaked out the CCP like they

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were actually they were actually shocked. So when Trump went

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in and captured Maduro, that was a shock to them.

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And when Trump went in and killed the Iranian leadership,

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that was another shock to him. And basically here's why

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China had been selling these countries missile defense systems. They've

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been selling them systems where they said, you know, this

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will take down the American aircraft. We can detect fifth

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generation fighter jets. This will protect you. We have anti

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air systems, they'll blow them out of the sky. They

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were selling their allies all these things they said were

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basically designed to prevent attacks from the United States and

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to fight off the United States. They also had anti

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ship missiles. They had all kinds of technologies. Basically they

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were saying, you know, America starts a war, We're going

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to destroy their entire navy, and there's no countermeasures for

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anti ship missiles.

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We saw that none of that worked. None of it.

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They didn't blow up a single ship, despite the fake

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reports going around. The missile defense systems did not work,

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the radar systems did not work. Basically nothing worked. And

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for the CCP, that's a big deal because that means

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that basically their their military. You know, their weapons developers

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were selling them snake oil. There. There are reports now

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that chi Jinping actually had the guy who made the

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J twenty, which is their fifth generation fighter chap allegedly

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had the guy killed.

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That's what I heard, Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, it's good.

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And it's not just them that they've been doing reviews.

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They're finding missiles like just that have been filled with water.

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Yeah they have.

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They have missiles, they have weapons systems that are non functional.

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It's like just graft and people stealing money. And not

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only that, like the review of the Chinese militaries, you're

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showing all these problems. Not only that report, what's are

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coming out now. Also the Chinese Communist Party is terrified

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because their whole narrative was the decline of the West.

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It was and that was what you heard in the

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United States too. It was this whole like you know,

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great power competition, you know, a declining empire and a

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rising empire. They thought that declining empire was America and

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the rising empire was China. Basically, that whole narrative is

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done now. They're like, no, America made a comeback, and

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the entire narrative they had on the rise of China

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is basically over.

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Well, not only China, Joshua, but look at the European nations.

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I mean, Joe Biden had brought America so close terms

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of you know, GDP and development and everything and then

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all but now a new president and this country gets jettisoned,

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and look what, Look what's happening. I mean, we're heading

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shoulders to everybody. China's exposed, Russia's exposed, China's navy. Look

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at their navy. I mean it's sparsacle. They've built up

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all these boats, and you wonder, okay, if there are

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anything like the missiles that they developed, what's going to

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happen with these boats.

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So this is what's left out of the discussion on

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the Chinese navy. They don't really have deep water capabilities.

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They're not really present there. A lot of their ships

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are coast guard ships and retro fitted fishing boats that

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they basically labels part of their coast guard. You know,

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they label lot of their battleships along those lines. They're

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not you know, they they I understand they have even

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submarine technology. They're loud, which anybody who understands submarines kind

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of kind of defeats the purposes. Put it that way,

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a lot of their systems are not hardened against modern technologies.

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And what America's demonstrating now is basically electronic warfare is

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the future. If your weapons systems are not hardened against

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electronic warfare, they can zap in you know. Let's put

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it this way. A lot of people don't know this.

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If you have a car that has you know, those

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circuits in it, you know, you open up a little

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part and it shows that you know the different you know,

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different circuits and stuff, your car is susceptible to an

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e MP. So if for example, there was an EMP attack,

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it would actually break the cars in any any car

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aside from like very old models would be dead on

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the road. The same exact thing goes for jets, same

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thing goes for airplanes, same thing goes for tanks, the

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same thing goes for fighter you know, boats and everything else. Basically,

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unless you're hardened against electronic warfare, nothing you have can

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stand on a modern battlefield where electronic warfare capable of

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doing e MP like.

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That it exists.

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And so the which basically means fifth generation or above.

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And we found out the whole fifth generation you know

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thing for China was a farce. Their military is useless

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effectively against the United States, and no that sounds crazy

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for some people. Case in point, we can look at

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how well Russia is doing against Ukraine. They're losing about

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like forty thousand people a month. It's insane. The death

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toll is astronomical. Their tanks are basically off the battlefield,

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their air control basically off the battlefield. The Chinese military

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is lower in technology than the Russians. It's why China

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has to buy their jet engines from Russia. They can't

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even build the stuff Russia builds.

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Wow, it's.

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You know again what Donald Trump has done. He's been

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an agent of exposure on so many levels, and China especially,

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no doubt about it. And there's more to be revealed here.

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And this is also why the space race again is

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so critical. I want to talk about that when we

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Hey, we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with Joshua Phillip,

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the host of Crossroads and senior investigative reporter with the

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Epoch Times. Let's talk about the space race. What America

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was able to do with Artemis two. I mean, in

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so many ways, I think we could have a little

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bit of a breath and inhale and say, oh, this

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is what being united feels like a little bit right.

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Oh yeah, Well you know why this matters so much? Well,

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first of all, China was thinking, okay, like Earth Moon

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system is ours and I'll get into why that really matters.

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There's a race right now basically over who is going

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to own the water on the Moon because they found it.

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You know, the Moon is pretty big, and anybody ever

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like overlay the Moon with like the United States, it's

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like it's big. You know, you're talking like it's it's

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like as big as the United States. Basically, right, it's

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a big place, as you might expect. But China basically

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has ambitions to populate and control resources on the Moon.

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In particular, they want helium three and they want they

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want water, hydrogen. And the reason they want that helium

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three there's a lot of experience right now in fusion

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fusion energy, and you need you need helium three for

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fusion energy. They believe that if they can build a

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base in the Moon, they can mine for helium three,

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massive resource, and if that's going to be the future

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of energy, which is it's experimental that they don't they

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can't quite do it. They say they're breakthroughs, but that

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will overtake nuclear if they can, If they can make

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fusion work, that will be the world's new energy. And

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the Moon is covered in helium three, which they need

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for that they also need hydrogen, and the Moon has hydrogen,

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why do they need that? The problem you have with

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deep space travel is rocket propulsion. You know, of course

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we've all seen when they do when they do the

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initial takeoffs, they drop the propulsions. Breaking out of the

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Earth's atmosphere takes a huge amount of energy and basically

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the if you if you do payloads where you have

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enough propulsion to go to deep space, the amount of

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the amount of resources you need to lift that off

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is astronomical and it's just it's not really feasible. So

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the idea is they could build a secondary kind of

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launch pad on the Moon, and then then you need

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an energy source. Of course, you know, we can bring

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stuff there, but if it's already there, it's better. And

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so they're looking at hydrogen energy, and so the Moon

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has that. There's a race now over who controls that.

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So the United States is looking at a multi nation model,

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not involving China. China says they basically want to own it.

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And what you have right now, after America did this

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fly around to the Moon, China is actually sending their

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own ship there, not manned. It's going to have like

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a little bot on it, and there's concerned they might

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actually try to you know, plant a little Chinese flag

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somewhere and just claim territory. Because right now the United

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States is saying the next trip we have to the Moon,

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which is very soon, we're going there to stay. So

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there's a race to own parts of the Moon right now.

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So if they plan a flag, that gives them some jurisdiction, juridic,

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jurisdictional you know rights in that.

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Well, I mean, how has it ever done, right?

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I guess. I mean it's like, okay, I went there

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on the first one to plan a flag there.

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I mean it's it's like, how do you declare How

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do you declare ownership over any territory? I mean basically basically, yeah,

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you put a flag on it, or or maybe at

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most you uh, you know, you grab some twine and

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you know part you know, section off an area.

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Basically, this is what China has been doing in.

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The South China Sea, always going to say they're they're

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building little infrastructure, they're leading stuff there.

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They could say that, hey, we have a we have.

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An you know, an easy and exclusive economic zone around

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our flag, and we claim this entire area. Now they're

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not racing to own the entire Moon. There's a race

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to own these this one area where all the hydrogen

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has been found, and so that that's what everybody's kind

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of gunning for right now. It's and it's basically first come,

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first serve. Whoever whoever gets there first is the one

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that's going to own it.

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So you think that with their bought that somehow they

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can find a way to you know, then claim some

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claim some territory there very possible.

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There's also been a long term concern over what's called

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the Earth Moon system, so not just not just you know,

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Earth and the Moon, but the space in between. And

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you know, basically there's been if you read a lot

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of like military writings, there's been concerned that China is

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trying to basically claim ownership.

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Over entire orbits. They can say, we own this orbit.

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If you want to pass through this orbit, you need

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to pay us a fee, you know, like the Strait

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of Hormuz for example, you have to pay a toll.

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And if and if we say you can't access it,

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just like just like Iran blockade of the Straight of Hormones,

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why can't you blockade an orbit and and so there's

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a concern that whoever, if you can claim an orbit,

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or if you can if you can claim regions between

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the Earth and the Moon, it could work.

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Basically is the.

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Same thing, right, And even more so, if you can

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weaponize space you put you put a missile in Basically

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that eliminates the problem of ballistic missiles. Where you know,

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the time you intercept them is when is when they

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go into the atmosphere, right, it eliminates that problem you

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would if you put missiles in space, like ballistic missiles

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in space or I guess we need to do ballistic you.

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Can't intercept them.

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And so when it comes to missile defense, nuclear deterrence, trade,

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the future of space travel, whoever controls the Earth Moon

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system and the hydrogen hydrogen on the Moon basically controls

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the future.

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Wow, what do you think five ten years, twenty years?

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Well, I don't think they're willing to wait that long.

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China, China, China, I know, but I mean before we

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start realizing, I mean this, this sounds like the comic

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book Sci Fi Is that you and I read when

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we were growing up.

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Right, Well, so here's the thing. This is not a

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new discussion.

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It's just it's just it hasn't really been talked about

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broadly until recently.

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Like if you.

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Read a lot of you know, for example, the reason

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if you read like Space Force, you know, which is

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a military branch now type documents, or if you read

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documents on you know, China Watch from China watchers. They've

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been talking about this for like ten fifteen years. Chinese

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military documents, they very openly talk about this. This has

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been their ambition. It's talked about a lot in like

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you know, defense communities is the future major threat right

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and we're basically at a point now where I don't

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know if we waited too long, but it's it's kind

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of do or die right now. And that's why I

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think we have a very legitimate Moon race. Like what

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is at stake right now with this Moon race is

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greater than the Moon race of the Cold War, because

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it's not just a pr thing.

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This is about ownership. This is playing for keeps well.

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And I know Americans were really surprised at how quick

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Artemis came in the scene. It was like we hadn't

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heard a lot about it, and all of a sudden, boom,

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We're going to the moon and uh and it's all

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it's this has all happened in the first year of

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Donald Trump's you know, new administration, right.

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Yeah, and so that's the thing too, you know, I

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think what's also being debated here is the difference between

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privately owned or government owned space travel versus h privately

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owned space travel. You're you're kind of watching, you know,

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communism and capitalism go to a head. And China that's

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all heavily controlled by the government. There's questions over how

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legitimate their space programs are, and people say, well, did

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NASA frame this stuff? There's a lot more evidence that

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China has been.

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Fake and stuff.

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It's kind of a joke in like the Chinese medicine community.

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But you know, in America, of course, we have a

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lot of private business feeding space technology. I mean, look

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at look at.

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The just leave. Yeah, what's that going to mean for

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Jeff Bezos and Musk Right, go ahead? I'm sorry.

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Well, you know, the commercialization of space means they're trying

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to find ways to make space profitable. And if you

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want to make space profitable, that means, hey, if you

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mine an asteroid, the amount of resources you're going to

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be looking at would would would basically replace the entire

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wealth of the of the world as we know it.

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You know, val that's that's lots of lots of tesseless

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they could be produced right potentially.

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Oh absolutely.

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And also you know the Moon right now, what what

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is valuable for the Moon is energy. The Moon is

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about energy. The Moon is about again helium three and hydrogen.

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They want that for energy. And that's going to be

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relevant to asteroid mining. That's going to be relevant to

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long term basing, that's going to be relevant to building

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additional economic models in space. It's going to be relevant

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to you know, establishing a base there and doing scientific

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research like like the The significance of.

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It is is very is very real.

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And again if you have businesses going there, it means

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they're going to look to xp they're going to look

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to exploit that. China's also talked about mining the Moon,

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and so I think also I wouldn't be surprised if

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bezos from US would start talking also about mining mining

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on the Moon.

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Yeah, without a doubt. Well, Joshua has always appreciate the insight.

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This is exciting, you know, you think about you know,

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what's coming here and what the next generation, the next

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two generations what they're going to experience as this space

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race continues. And it's all because right now, it's all

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because of Donald Trump and one party over the other.

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I just can't imagine the Democrats having the capacity to

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even consider this.

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Yeah, well, hopefully to keep it because the others. There's

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a lot at stake and always a pleasure of being here.

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Thank you well, Joshua Philip, the host of Crossroads and

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senior investigative reporter with the Epic Times. Thank you, Joshua,

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Take care, be well always, thank you.

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for Patriots, Welcome Morning.

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America's six minutes after the top of the r Right now,

522
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Bill Martine is here with the former decorated law enforcement officer,

523
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.480
current senior pastoring a pastor at Hickory Hammock Hickory Hammock

524
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.720
Church in Florida, and Carl Gallus with us right now, Hey, Carl,

525
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how you.

526
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.920
Doing, buddy, Hey, broth Bill, it's good now.

527
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:20.839
I forgot to brag. I forgot to brag about of course,

528
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:25.720
celebrated number one top Amazon author. And you know what

529
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are you up to about sixty seventy books now? No,

530
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.400
you're spending them out like Biscus Bundy.

531
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:36.960
Yeah, only fourteen and only fourteen, and I have ghosts

532
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.839
written three other books for people, and so yeah, I

533
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:44.319
do a lot of writing and researching and spend a

534
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:45.960
lot of my time doing that. Of course, I'm a

535
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:50.160
pastor of a large church and going all the time

536
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.759
counseling and studying for sermons and ministering and funerals and weddings,

537
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.440
and so yeah, my hair is on fire a lot, brother.

538
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Yes, right, well, And like you, because you are talking

539
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with people in your counseling and you're representing a body

540
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:09.599
of Christ, the truth is absolutely critical, and so what

541
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.960
you have to do, you're compelled to be constantly researching

542
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.480
and taking a deep dive into these things and not

543
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:20.880
just you know, falling into the falling into the traps

544
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.160
of an eight second sound bite.

545
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.519
Right, yes, and listen. I want to warn your audience.

546
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:29.240
I mean, you are excellent at not being this way.

547
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.279
I try to be excellent at not being this way.

548
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.079
You're one of my idols. But I want to warn

549
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:40.720
your audience of the plethora of what Jesus would call

550
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.000
false prophets out there. Now, we've got all of these podcasters,

551
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.039
and some of them are good. But here's the thing.

552
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.200
I warned people all the time. I have people say, well,

553
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.359
did you see so and so those podcasts? He says

554
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.799
something different and baa baa pap and then I get

555
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:55.960
and I'm fine. I want to learn. I'm a run

556
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.000
I used to be a cop, criminal investigator. I want

557
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.079
to know the forensics. I want to know the facts.

558
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:03.839
So I'm always courteous and I say, well, send me

559
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:09.880
some stuff. But here's what I ask, please don't send me. Well,

560
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.480
if you ever have somebody who are listening to speak

561
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:17.680
about secret knowledge, they have one. The other way, unless

562
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:22.839
they're willing to expose it. The other thing is run

563
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.960
away from anybody that can't provide you with some forensics

564
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.039
that makes sense for first research. Now, all I mean

565
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.480
by that is, if somebody knows something really big, then

566
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.240
they need to caveat it with I know something I'm

567
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.599
not at liberty to tell you yet, just like when

568
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.079
I was a part of Sheriff Ourpio's investigation of Obaha,

569
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.119
and that was and we tell people that all the time.

570
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But if you'll hang on, I will give you the

571
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information in due time. I promise, I'm not lying. I'd

572
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.880
be a spool to sit here and try to gaslight you.

573
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And of course when that happened, I wrote a fifty

574
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.880
page chapter for a book with a major publisher that

575
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.680
uncovers the whole thing. But the bottom line is, so

576
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.119
many people are out there with these with these political things,

577
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.039
these biblical things, and they say, look, I've got secret knowledge.

578
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.160
And sometimes they don't use the word secret, but that's

579
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.240
what they're telling you exactly if you ask them give

580
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me some forensics, I mean something that I can research. Well,

581
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.839
well we don't have that right now, but it's coming.

582
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.519
It's coming. And you probably have seen those clips.

583
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.240
Well that's you know, that's what got Pambundi in trouble.

584
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.799
Karl to be honest, you know, and Sidney Powell, I

585
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.480
love Sidney Powell. She'd been on the show for many years,

586
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.839
and look what they put her through after the election

587
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:39.240
of twenty twenty.

588
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Right.

589
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.640
But Candace Owens is a perfect example of this. She

590
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.839
was seen to be very conservative for years. Now all

591
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.279
of a sudden, it's like, I don't know what's wrong

592
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.039
with her mind, but she's always saying. There's a clip

593
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.640
out there that has about twenty instances of her saying

594
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it's coming, it's almost there, it's gonna happen, it's coming,

595
00:31:58.400 --> 00:31:59.240
and it never does.

596
00:31:59.359 --> 00:31:59.960
It never does.

597
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.440
It's called gas lighting, and it's called manipulation, and it's

598
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.559
called trying to get viewers, trying to hook them and

599
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.279
drag them along so they can get clicks, so they

600
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.119
can get Monday, Monday, Monday.

601
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.160
And yeah, exactly, you don't know that.

602
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:16.000
I don't do that.

603
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.920
But now, well, and this is why, you know, the

604
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.920
Bible warned us of what they called the false prophets,

605
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like you said, in the old days, they took care

606
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.640
of that pretty expediently, right, yeah.

607
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.079
Yeah. The other thing Jesus said though, not only the

608
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false prophets, but he talked about how deception would be

609
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.640
so great in the last days. Now we've got a

610
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.240
I deep fake video, deep fake audio, deep fake pictures,

611
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.319
and deep fake answers to people's questions and on AI.

612
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.640
And then we've got these podcasters trying to make money

613
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.759
and they're saying, hang on, hang on, this coming, thiss coming,

614
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:51.920
I promise you it's coming in it never does. Well,

615
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.240
what's your evidence? Well, I can't tell you that right now.

616
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.559
Oh secret information. Give me one little piece that points

617
00:32:57.640 --> 00:32:58.400
me where I can do.

618
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:02.359
My own research to exactly when I preach.

619
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:04.720
I've been preaching forty years in my pulpit. I do

620
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.559
a lot of preaching on prophetic connections to the world,

621
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.039
to what's going on in the news, and then also

622
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.640
relevancy of the word and how we should live it

623
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:18.000
in crazy, maddening days filled with derangement of mind. Oh

624
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.799
my gosh, all over the world. But every time I

625
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.079
make these statements that ten years ago would have been outlandish,

626
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.319
I always say, check me out. And then on behind me.

627
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.400
I've got like a power point up there sometimes where

628
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.400
I will have several links and I will have quotes

629
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:40.799
from several scholarly sources or scientific sources or whatever I'm

630
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.680
talking about, historical sources, reputable, just to let the people know.

631
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.720
And I always say this. I'm not claiming that because

632
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.240
I have good sources that I am one hundred percent correct,

633
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:56.079
because I don't know if they are one hundred percent correct.

634
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.519
But what I'm trying to tell you is, I'm not

635
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.240
a shyster. I'm not a purposeful false prophet. I'm not

636
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.920
a gas lighter. I'm not pulling this out of my

637
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.119
back pocket. There are other people with credentials deeper than

638
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.400
mine that have seen and are saying the same things. Now,

639
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.639
when you talk, when you listen to somebody that says

640
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.119
that like I do and like you do, and others,

641
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.320
then then listen to them, but still check them out.

642
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.400
I tell my congregation every Sunday, check me out after

643
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.639
this message, and see if you don't find that to

644
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:26.360
be true.

645
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:31.800
Well, our audience knows. I often say, own your own knowledge.

646
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.199
Thank you, and only your own faith. I tell you

647
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:38.159
all the time, your faith cannot be well the preacher

648
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:39.360
said it, so I believe it.

649
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:40.159
You don't know.

650
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:42.559
No, I'm not going to lie to you on purpose.

651
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.599
I've been their pastor for forty years. I tell them

652
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.920
I've never lied to you. I've misspoken a few times

653
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.280
innocently and I had to get it correct, and I did.

654
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.119
I would come to the propet and say, you know,

655
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.119
I gave you the wrong scripture or I misquoted that scripture.

656
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:57.760
I just off the top of my mind, I don't

657
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.079
know why. I'm sorry, here's the correct or. Here's something

658
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.239
that I have believed for years. But now that I've

659
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.760
done a deeper dive than the word of God, I'm

660
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.480
gonna tweak it. And I will to let you know

661
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:11.199
that I'm making this change in what I believe about this.

662
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:13.559
I mean, I try to. I think that's one reason

663
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.199
they've kept me there for forty years.

664
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.960
They know, well, they know no doubt because you're you're

665
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.679
a rare breed. I mean, realize how many pastors, I

666
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:26.719
mean pastors are anybody, politics, way of life that have

667
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.480
that kind of integrity and can be that vulnerable and

668
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.840
honest with the people that they influence, even their own families,

669
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.760
you know, even mothers and fathers and dads, you know,

670
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.559
who are the leaders of their home. Sometimes they just

671
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.480
they have so much arrogance that they can't be vulnerable

672
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.599
enough to be honest with their with their wives or

673
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.639
their kids, say hey, you know what I messed up.

674
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:47.159
I'm sorry.

675
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.039
Yeah, no, you're right, and listen.

676
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.880
And I'm not saying like as if I've got it captured.

677
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.840
I'm just saying, I know this is this is what

678
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.159
we all deal with down here on earth.

679
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.159
Yeah, I was just getting ready to say this. Go

680
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.599
to what you just said. Everybody has an ego, but

681
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:09.599
not everybody is egotistical. You see what I mean. In

682
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.920
other words, we all have egos. Nobody likes to be

683
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.559
cussed out or corrected or shown that they're wrong. Nobody

684
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:16.000
likes that.

685
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.320
Or have a whistle blown in their ear right.

686
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:20.960
Yeah, something like that. But you know, there was a

687
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.719
movie one time. I watched it years ago, so if

688
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.000
but the guys were talking and the guy says, yeah,

689
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.440
hard times brings out the chumps, you know. And so

690
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:35.320
we're living in hard times. So we're hearing the whiny babies,

691
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:40.079
we're hearing the karens, we're hearing the you know, politically, biblically,

692
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.280
we're hearing preachers preach false doctrine. And I don't think

693
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.840
they're meaning to. They just don't know the word they

694
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.400
think they do. They misquote it, they take it out

695
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:53.199
of context. People are confused. I'm telling you, we're living

696
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.880
in the most prophetic time since the first Coming of Jesus,

697
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:01.119
and everything that's happening in our life was office by

698
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:02.960
the word of God and most of it out of

699
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the mouth of Jesus. And so stay with us.

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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Carl Gallups, the senior

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pastor at Hickrahamic Church and also a celebrated author and

774
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decorated former law enforcement officer. Highly decorated and respected, and

775
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it's always an honor to have him on the show here, Carl,

776
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.039
speaking of things that are kind of bizarre and false

777
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.159
prophets and everything. One of the big headlines this past

778
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.599
week was the Pope thought he should enter in in

779
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:40.360
the conversation. And what people don't understand was the day

780
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:42.440
before and I don't know if you were aware of this,

781
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:49.440
David Axelrod met with the Pope in Rome. So what

782
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.639
what what? What? What do you think if that influenced

783
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:59.119
the Pope's statement and his I think an inopportune statement

784
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.320
to kind of attacked Trump and what Trump's doing.

785
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:06.559
Well, yeah, listen, I'm aware of all of this. Yes,

786
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.239
in what I'm going to give is my opinion. See,

787
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:11.840
that's how you're supposed to do it. This is my opinion, right,

788
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:15.440
I'm not claiming this is true, but in my opinion,

789
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:22.280
some of his statements I think were misplaced and maybe

790
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.440
a little out of line. I'm not there to tell

791
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.519
the Pope how to do his job. But in pastors, preachers,

792
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.760
evangelicals can get caught up in the same thing.

793
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.920
But tennis players, tennis players, Carl, Remember they tried to

794
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.599
get the tennis players to talk against Trump, and most

795
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.960
of them they saw it. They saways happen to say

796
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.119
I'm here to play tennis. They stayed in their lane.

797
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:43.719
A couple of them, you know, had to get out

798
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of the lane.

799
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And that's it.

800
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:48.119
And the thing is, it's a fine line sometimes about

801
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:52.840
if you're speaking to biblical matters or biblical scripture and

802
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:59.320
prophecy that deals with geopolitical matters, political matters, life matters,

803
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.760
the relevancy of all of this to life, that's totally

804
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.119
within the pope's wheelhouse. Yeah, I mean you should have

805
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.800
the ability to say. Now, I don't often agree with

806
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.920
the Pope on a lot of things, but that's just me,

807
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:12.559
you know, And I'm sure he doesn't agree with a

808
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.440
lot of things I say about the Word of God,

809
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:18.000
for example, But I don't hate him. I don't hate

810
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.679
all Catholics. You know, people ask me, well, do you

811
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.679
think all Catholics are going to Hell? I say, no,

812
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.920
more than I think all Baptists are going to Heaven.

813
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.840
What are you asking that question for. I mean, it's stupid.

814
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.760
People are stupid about those kind of things. But anyway,

815
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:35.360
back to your concern, No, it concerned me that he

816
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.559
would step over into areas that really are not his

817
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:41.679
job description, and he really didn't give it a whole

818
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:46.039
lot of biblical precedent backing. It was just as sounded

819
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.960
like somebody had gotten a hold of him, fed him

820
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:55.280
some communist, socialist liberal talking points, got him riled up,

821
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:57.719
and he comes out and says yeah, and then makes

822
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.960
this speech, and I just my jaw was on the ground. Yeah.

823
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.960
It was unfortunate because I think the opportunity had was,

824
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:09.639
you know, as as Catholics were all praying for peace, Yes,

825
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.679
it would have been a better response, and it would

826
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.920
would have been in his appropriate lane. But unfortunately, I

827
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.079
mean it was like the Catholics didn't look good between

828
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.880
that and then you had three radical you had three

829
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:26.159
radical cardinals, you know, talking about open borders and you know,

830
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:30.239
things like and of course the whole situation with N. G. O.

831
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.000
S and the Catholic Church involved with immigration the way

832
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.199
it is, it stinks to high Heaven.

833
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.440
And by the way, the Vatican. By the way, the

834
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.800
Vatican has huge walls and they don't let people in

835
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:45.119
that they don't want, right, So I mean, why are

836
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.559
they preaching to the world or to the United States.

837
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.800
You can't have walls. You got to let everybody in.

838
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:54.599
Well you first, yeah, well, I mean the world's crazy. Brother.

839
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.400
Yeah, it really is. And meanwhile, I mean they, you know,

840
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.840
the media is still going crazy because you know, Trump

841
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.880
found a way to get the negotiators to the negotiating

842
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.639
table by telling him that he was going to destroy

843
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.280
a civilization, as if they hadn't already themselves forty seven

844
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:16.159
years earlier when the Iatole came in, destroyed the Iranian

845
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:18.920
civilization as they knew it, did he not?

846
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.079
Yes, no, no, you're absolutely right. And of course people

847
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.400
just don't understand Trump. And listen, I'm not hit a sycophant.

848
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.079
I'm not on his staff to be his pr person.

849
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:34.280
It's just that I get him. I mean, I listen,

850
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:36.639
I lived up North for ten years, and I know

851
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.119
how a lot of those people are. They're direct, they're

852
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.840
black and white. They say what they think. And I'm

853
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:43.760
down here in the South now where people kind of

854
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.360
sugarcoat it and pour syrup on it. They stab you

855
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.559
on the back, but they do it with sugar. You know,

856
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.920
two different cultures. And so this boy is a fighter

857
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.360
from New York, you know, and he's and he's worked

858
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:01.079
worldwide before he was ever in politics and known by

859
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.199
important people. Billionaire, you know, architect, and builder. So I

860
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:11.079
get it when there's so many things that I wish

861
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.000
he wouldn't say, don't say that, don't say it like that.

862
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.880
So when he talked about destroying the whole civilization, this

863
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:19.760
is what he meant. In fact, later he came out

864
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.039
and said it, but I kind of translated it for

865
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.280
him before before I heard him say it. All he

866
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.800
was saying was you see what we've already done. We've

867
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.840
taken out the leadership. They're the ones that want to

868
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.639
kill Israel and kill the United States. They want nukes

869
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.400
that'll blow up the world. That's part of their fanatical religion.

870
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:40.159
They want their mahadi to come back in order. From

871
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.280
the site response, you know, Israel has to go, the

872
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.519
United States has to go. So what he's talking about

873
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.039
the civilization is is this cultural schiite understanding that is

874
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.960
pushed upon you other your Iranians by these malas, this

875
00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:01.599
religious atrocity, this abomination. That's what he meant. He didn't

876
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.480
mean he's going to drop a nuke and kill every Iranian.

877
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.320
That didn't even enter his mind.

878
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:10.760
Yeah, like there was. Yeah, But see what happens is

879
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.960
the left and the media is so easily triggered if

880
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.159
he says anything, they just you know, that's their perception,

881
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.079
their work view. Like there's no indication in any time,

882
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.920
in any time that the first administration and what he's doing. Now,

883
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.039
look at how many peace you know, how many wars

884
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.119
did he settle in the first couple of months of

885
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:31.320
this current administration.

886
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.280
Carl, Yeah, I know. Let me give a little context

887
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.119
of that too. Think about this. I know you've said

888
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:38.719
this many times than I have, but I want your

889
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.239
audience to continue to think about this. He had a

890
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.960
first term and he did a really good job. I mean,

891
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.880
most of America loved him, and that's why the machine

892
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.320
went in in twenty twenty to change the election and

893
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.280
all that. And now we've got more and more evidence

894
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.920
that that's exactly what happened, right, because the left are

895
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.559
embarrassing themselves and they know it. And Donald Trump every

896
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:03.960
time he's in office, this is his second time he

897
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:09.239
embarrasses the fire out of them. By success, your best

898
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:14.800
vengeance is to be successful. Exact everything he's been doing

899
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:18.920
has been successful or will become successful. For example, oil

900
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.519
is going up right now. Yeah, Well, why because of

901
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.960
all of the hormone strait and all of the oil

902
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:29.800
manufacturers and buyers around the world. It's a mess right now.

903
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.360
But when this is all straightened now, it'll all come

904
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.480
plummeting back down again and the oil will open. But

905
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.239
and the Left know that, and they also know the

906
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:42.599
midterms are coming up and everything Trump. The border crossers

907
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.320
are down to almost zero. Millions of them have left

908
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.280
the country on their own, and others have been transported out.

909
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.719
Just today I read in Fox News nine more drug

910
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.400
runners were blown out of the water coming from you know,

911
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.239
I guess Cuba or wherever. But the bottom line is

912
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:05.559
they're coming in with drugs in America, fittinol and stuff

913
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.519
that will kill your children and grandchildren. They want to

914
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.320
do it, and they're constantly blowing him out of the water.

915
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.639
So the bottom line is the Left hate him because

916
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.079
he makes them look horrible. They tried to kill him, brother,

917
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.719
They put a bullet in his head. He just turned

918
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.360
his head. But if he hadn't able to have gone

919
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.519
right there on live television, then that's what they did

920
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.159
to Charlie Kirk. Then they tried it again on Trump

921
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.039
at a golf course, I mean, brother. Then they try

922
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.199
to pen all kinds of illegal stuff on him that

923
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.519
the courts didn't even have jurisdiction, and everybody on the

924
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:41.920
left was saying, he's going to prison. We promise you

925
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.760
he will be in prison. He will never be president again,

926
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.880
he can never run for public office. Well, he overcame

927
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:52.480
all of that. He is president and he's changing the world. Now.

928
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.880
I don't think he's an angel from heaven. Here's what

929
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.480
he is. He's a great president. I voted for a resident.

930
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.119
I didn't vote for a pastor or Sunday school teacher

931
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.039
or somebody singing in the choir. Now, if he was

932
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:07.840
one of those kind of people, that would be awesome,

933
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.880
but he's not. But I did not want Biden and

934
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.519
Kamala Harris and Obama and Obama's wife and all these people.

935
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:18.159
They were floating out there. Oh no, no, Can you

936
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:19.599
imagine where we would.

937
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:20.400
Be right exactly?

938
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:22.000
No question of them were in power.

939
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:25.440
Carl. Bottom line is I think they're scared out of

940
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.400
their skulls that Trump's going to finally expose the infrastructure

941
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:32.079
of the Democratic Party.

942
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.400
Apparatchick, listen, listen.

943
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.280
I'm just going to say this. This may be the

944
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.760
first time any of your people have heard it. I

945
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.400
know that Donald Trump and Sheriff Joe Opira were real,

946
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:45.320
real good friends. And Donald Trump knows everything that our

947
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.000
pile knows from that investigation. I know a ton of

948
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.280
it myself because I was involved in it at their

949
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.079
sheriff's request, and the chief investigator, you know a lot

950
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:58.679
of this. I just I could be wrong. I don't

951
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.079
have any inside scoop other than what I just said

952
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.639
that's inside scoop, and it is absolutely true. I think

953
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.719
they're terrified that Obama is going to be exposed to

954
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:13.360
and his whole regime, that he's part of the deep state. Oh,

955
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.760
without a doubt, our pyo uncovered it. Got forty page

956
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:23.400
affid davits from top top I'm trying to be careful

957
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:29.360
here top top investigative agencies. One from overseas, one from

958
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.280
in the United States. Both of them have credentials to

959
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.719
testify by the Supreme Court of the United States to

960
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.480
them and or to bring cases before the courts of

961
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.480
the European Union. So these are sharp companies that have

962
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.679
forty page affidavits that they gave to the Sheriff's office

963
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:52.000
saying this guy is a fraud. And I mean and

964
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.760
Trump knows this. He knows every detail of it. But

965
00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:00.679
after knowing if I was Trump, after knowing that, I'm

966
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.079
not saying Obama did this or any person, but somebody,

967
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:11.519
somebody lined up assassination attempts, somebody we know who charged

968
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.039
him with false charges, tried to put him in prison.

969
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.239
It was the left. It was the left under Biden's regime.

970
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:21.079
So you know, you know, even going back, even going back,

971
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.199
you see Donald Trump's actions. What not Donald Trump? What

972
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.480
Obama did you know that set up the Russian collusion

973
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.039
and all that. Yeah, and his fingerprints are all around.

974
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:33.519
He's the one that dropped off billions of dollars on

975
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:37.639
the tarmac to Iran, and Yahoo came to the United States,

976
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.639
spoke to Congress and said, please get your president not

977
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:43.559
to do this. They will nuke us. They won, they

978
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.599
will use this money for nukes. And Obama laughed at

979
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:48.880
him and called him some nasty names. And now we

980
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.440
know that's exactly what they were doing. And they were

981
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.800
getting ready to wipe Israel off the map, and they

982
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:56.679
were coming for us next. They said so, and Donald

983
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.960
did what had to be done, and he did it

984
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.280
like a man, and he's still doing it like a man.

985
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:05.159
He doesn't care what people think. He cares about his family,

986
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:10.000
your family, his children, our children, his grandchildren, our grandchildren,

987
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.559
and the posterity of our nation. That's what he cares about.

988
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:15.719
It's what leadership looks like, Carla.

989
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.000
Yes, that's what real and the and the leftists don't

990
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.039
know what real leadership looks like. They shift with the wind.

991
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.960
Everybody tells on each other if it's expedient. It's just unbelievable.

992
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.840
So so the differences between the people on the right

993
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.920
and the people on the left. I'm not saying Republicans

994
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:34.800
and Democrats. You can get an R or a D,

995
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.320
buy your name by going to the courthouse and changing

996
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.679
your your affiliation. I'm talking about. You can see the

997
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.000
character difference, you can see the agenda difference.

998
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.440
Now we're living, we've been, we've been, we've been saying

999
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.239
you're either American or anti American.

1000
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.400
Yeah, that's it. That's it. And you know, and I've

1001
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.039
said this before, I don't need I don't vote for

1002
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:58.719
a pastor to be president. Now, if if there was

1003
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.239
a guy that had a good constitutional mind, loved America,

1004
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.719
plus sang in the choir and taught Sunday school, that'd

1005
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:09.840
be great. The only two presidents in our lifetime this

1006
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:11.960
sang in the choir and talt Sunday School was Bill

1007
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:13.079
Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

1008
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:13.920
Jimmy Carter.

1009
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.079
I mean, people say, well, Ronald Reagan, no, he didn't know,

1010
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:21.000
he never went to church. His wife brought in astrologers

1011
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:26.039
and is one of the best presidents. I mean, you know,

1012
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.000
he protected us, and I can say this. People said, well,

1013
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:30.840
you think Donald Trump's a Christian. I don't know if

1014
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.000
he is or not. He says he is, other people

1015
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.639
say he is. But here's the deal. Here's the deal.

1016
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.119
If he is, he's a baby Christian. And I'm not

1017
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.159
trashing him. I'm just saying he came to Christianity then

1018
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:47.199
in his late seventies early eighties, so he doesn't seem

1019
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:51.480
to be that way. But the deal is he does

1020
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:58.079
protect Christianity, the Christian Church, the Christian people, so he's

1021
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:00.599
we kind of hired him as a secure reguard for

1022
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.159
the church. Kamala Harris would not be that. Joe Bot

1023
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.199
was definitely not that. Neither was Obama. I mean, the

1024
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:12.519
horrendous things they did against people of faith in some

1025
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:16.360
of it in law, it was horrendous so exactly, we're

1026
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:19.840
living in extremely prophetic times, brother, I mean, the Word

1027
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:24.360
of God prophesied everything we're talking about, if not by name,

1028
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.719
at least in the general understanding of it.

1029
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:29.719
And here we are, as you said, we're in the

1030
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:33.320
middle of it. How exciting. And so the challenge is

1031
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.960
we need to be in line in alignment with what

1032
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.880
God's will is right now in this season, right right now.

1033
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:43.599
That's it. You're absolutely right, brother, you're a good preacher

1034
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:44.760
man stuff.

1035
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.440
He always going to have you with us. Carl Gallup,

1036
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:51.159
Senior Pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida.

1037
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:55.840
Also he is a Amazon Top sixty best selling author,

1038
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.920
former decorated Florida law enforcement officer in two different offices. Oh,

1039
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:03.960
by the way, and the one and only Carl Gallups.

1040
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:05.320
Thank you, Carl, appreciate you, Thank you.

1041
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:08.360
Bill, thank you for having me. Yeah, the Lord, Brother, God.

1042
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:09.360
Bless, God bless.

1043
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:13.519
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1044
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1061
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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live.

1062
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.119
Hey, good morning, welcome six minutes after the top of

1063
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.360
the hour, Bill Martinez here and back with it's been

1064
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:26.599
a minute since we've got a chance to talk with

1065
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.159
doctor HS, but we got him back to talk about

1066
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.679
we're gonna have about chem tracks. But there's been such

1067
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.159
a controversy over the years, and so many people have

1068
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.039
looked at this and considered it. You get all kinds

1069
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.679
of opinion. You and I have discussed this many times

1070
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:43.039
that in the absence of fact, opinion rules and when

1071
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:47.159
it comes to chemtrails, all kinds of misinformation and opinions

1072
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.000
flying around. But you've got some receipts to share with

1073
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:51.199
us this time, doctor.

1074
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.000
H Absolutely, sir, and thanks for having me on Bill.

1075
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:55.840
And yes it has been a minute. I'm grabbing those

1076
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:59.039
receipts right now my wall that I keep them posted

1077
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.280
right next to my desk. But yes, we've had some

1078
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:04.400
incredible things. So one of the things that we did

1079
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.199
last year was we said, you know, Dane Wiggington, and

1080
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:11.079
I keep giving credit to Dane Wiggington at Geoengineering Watch

1081
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.159
because he did he was the first person actually fly

1082
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:16.320
a plane into a KIM trail with a probe and

1083
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:19.480
say well, what's coming out? Yeah, And so we started

1084
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:23.119
seeing aluminum, we started seeing barium, we started seeing strontium.

1085
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:25.079
And you know what, I think the thing that we

1086
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:28.679
have to start understanding first is the number one implication

1087
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:33.440
for neurodegenerative disease. We're talking Alzheimer's, we're talking Parkinson's, We're

1088
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:38.480
talking that that class is that illuminum is the big problem.

1089
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:41.039
And when you start looking at his samples, and his

1090
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:43.760
work that he did in the great documentary the Dimming.

1091
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.159
You see that aluminum was far and away the highest

1092
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.559
heavy metal, and then you see a little bit of barium.

1093
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:52.320
And where do we usually come in contact with barium? Well,

1094
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.880
usually that's going to be the contrast dies for imaging

1095
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:58.440
and things like that. And so I'm like, well, you

1096
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.039
know it's been. One of the things that it's done

1097
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.719
is Barriam has said, you know what, we don't need

1098
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:07.159
any contrast dye. All right, if you're gonna get some imaging,

1099
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.599
do it without contrast. It only minimally improves the imaging.

1100
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:13.079
So please stay away from that.

1101
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:14.920
It's not worth it the risk reward.

1102
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.519
It's just there. I mean, all you're doing is putting

1103
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.159
a heavy metal in the body that is going to

1104
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.400
make you more susceptible to the five G, the six G,

1105
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:25.639
the W band, the next read. All these EMFs were

1106
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:27.719
getting hit and so we have to understand there's a

1107
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:32.519
connection between these two. And my suspicion and and you know,

1108
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:34.280
I have a little bit of evidence to support this

1109
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.239
in my research, is that they put the heavy metals

1110
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.920
in the sky so that not only it not only

1111
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.679
is it poisoning US. But it also allows them to

1112
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:46.440
push the jet stream north and south. And when you

1113
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.400
can control where the jet stream of air current flows,

1114
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:52.880
you control where the weather goes. And that's where the

1115
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:59.039
right So it's just makes sense. Well, then later, you know,

1116
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:02.159
Mike Adams Health Ranger does some great work and they

1117
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:04.440
find some they get some of the skyfall and his

1118
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:10.320
lab analyzes that and what did they find the same thing? Aluminum, barium, strontium.

1119
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:14.320
But really it's aluminum overwhelming more than anything else.

1120
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:16.800
So and how long how long have we known this?

1121
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.239
I mean we've had suspicions, you know, for decades, I think,

1122
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:23.880
you know, but this kind of stuff that you're talking

1123
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:27.159
about right now, obviously, I mean it's been in the environment,

1124
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.719
it's been measurable. I mean, is it just a case

1125
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.480
of people aren't interested, you know, don't don't look, don't see,

1126
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:35.039
don't tell.

1127
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:37.920
Well, I think what's been fascinating is that when you

1128
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:42.400
go into our country's laws the United States Code USC

1129
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:48.559
nine was it nine to a USC fifteen I think

1130
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.880
or something like that. It's the Weather Modification Act. And

1131
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:56.000
the Weather Modification Act actually dates back to nineteen seventy two.

1132
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.679
So we've been doing this since at least nineteen seventy two.

1133
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.039
When you into World War two, you start seeing that

1134
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.559
we've been doing weather modification or at least exploring it

1135
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:09.119
since nineteen forty five. Most countries like Saudi Arabia and

1136
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:12.039
some of these other China, they admit openly to doing it.

1137
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:14.880
I mean, we have companies that openly trade on the

1138
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:18.599
Stock exchange that do it. But it was our government

1139
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:20.559
that said, you know in nineteen eighties that you know,

1140
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.519
when people start seeing these straight you know, clouds going,

1141
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:27.360
what's that. They were like, Oh, it's just conspiracy theory,

1142
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:31.039
which of course is a CIA term. So it's been

1143
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:35.079
it dates back. But the reality is, I think that

1144
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.280
it wasn't until Dane Wickington actually stepped in in that

1145
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.079
first study and said, look, this is definitive, and then

1146
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.440
he connected it to the companies that were producing the

1147
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:47.320
nanoparticulates that it became like, Okay, this is more real

1148
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:49.400
than I think anybody ever wanted to admit. It's the

1149
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.679
same kind of revelation that's going on with vaccines. I mean,

1150
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:54.480
all of this stuff is really nice.

1151
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:57.239
Exactly, hey, real quick, because we jumped into this, we

1152
01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:58.880
jumped into the deep end of the poll. Right, I'm

1153
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:02.639
so excad that we probably need to make sure our

1154
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:06.039
audience is up to speed with us. Let's go to

1155
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:07.679
the basics. What is a chim trail?

1156
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.079
Okay, So a kim trail is also known as a

1157
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:16.559
cumulus homogenitis, and that is a man made cloud, a

1158
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.400
kim trail, and the easy way to determine it. And

1159
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.960
I was in a documentary with Ariana Victor. She did

1160
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:28.000
a great one called just Look Up you know that

1161
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:30.480
I was in and the question that she had for

1162
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:33.000
me that was kind of funny. It was she was like, well,

1163
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.760
how do we know that it's a kim trail or

1164
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:38.199
a contrail? And I'm like, okay, well it's super simple.

1165
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:43.840
The contrail will evaporate and go away, it'll disappear, kim

1166
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.360
trail stays and then what you see is the cloud

1167
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:50.000
that starts out straight, it disperses, and now you get

1168
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.320
these other kind of clouds and you get this weird

1169
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.639
looking sunlight. And this is the whole Bill Gates. Let's

1170
01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:59.440
dim everything because we have to slow climate change. That's

1171
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:01.920
all nonsense. That's not what they're doing. They're just they're

1172
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:08.239
actually with with that technology. It's called specifically stratospheric aerosol injection,

1173
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:12.039
that's its technical name. And what they are spraying in

1174
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:17.760
the sky are little nanoparticles that are also called cloud

1175
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.920
condensation nuclei. So you put a little particle, little nanoparticle

1176
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.880
in the sky, well what's going to happen is water

1177
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:29.440
is going to coalesce around it, and now you get

1178
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:32.039
the formation of a cloud, you know, they or what

1179
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:34.599
would appear to be a cloud. And then that's also

1180
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.880
where you start seeing. You might notice some days where

1181
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:41.119
it's heavy cab trail spraying, you might notice that it

1182
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:44.159
looks like there's like two or three suns out there

1183
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:46.559
because of all the reflections that are going off of

1184
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:50.440
the little nanoparticles. So it's basically if you see a

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nice puffy cloud, you know, our old childhood clouds, you know,

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those probably aren't necessarily kim trails. But if you see

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a plane spraying something in the sky, it stays straight

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and it doesn't evaporate, it just disperses out, and you

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know it's a case.

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Let me let me ask you this because you bring

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up something and the thought comes to mind, is that

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when a cloud forms around this camtrail, is it a

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way of the Is it kind of a healing agency

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of the environment to protect itself from something foreign that

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shouldn't be there?

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Oh well, absolutely, well think of it like this. There's

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a forest fire. Let's say lightning strikes. You get a

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you know, forest fire that comes up. Now the forest

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is burning. What the forest does is that you start

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seeing all the plumes of smoke go up. Those are

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particulates going up into the atmosphere. Well that's for a reason,

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because the condensation will happen at the upper elevations and

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then rain will happen over that fire to put that

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fire out.

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So the forests crying out, send rain, right, send rain.

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We need some brain, right, we can need some rain,

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so hit us with it. So this is the whole.

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Ex They can't figure that out yet, no reason, I

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don't know. The forest just does not speak, you know,

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the right kind of environment to get the rain to

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come there. Because even if they get it, they didn't

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know what to do with it. That that state is

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just so confused.

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Well California, Yeah, and as a former Californian, that's where

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I was born, and we left intelligently, right, all the

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intelligent people leave California. So the reality is simply this.

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They're taking a natural phenomenon. They are playing God, which

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they have no right to do, and they're doing it

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without any societal permission. So it's not we have no

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say in this. There's no punishment for doing this. It's

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a part of our laws that justify its application. Blah

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blah blah blah blah. And and the thing that is

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so disconcerting about it, Bill is that they could use

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a different condensation nuclear. It doesn't have to be aluminum.

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They could use copper, they could use something else that

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actually has health benefits for the people, health ite fits

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for the soil, and then we would just have to

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really debate, well, where are we pushing water to back

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here with doctor Henry Healing,

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You need to make note of it because you're going

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to want to reference it, especially after our conversation and

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we've just barely touched the tip of the of the chemtrail.

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Here Energetic Healthinstitute dot org is the website. Doctor. You

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also use the term contrail, So I want to make

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sure our audience understands the difference between a chemtrail and

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a contrail, and maybe some of the media, the way

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they put out fake information might be conveniently confusing the two.

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Right.

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It just comes down really simply when you see a

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straight line coming out of a plane and it disappears contrail.

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The reason that it's a contrail, and the reason it

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disappears is because there's no nano particulate in the exhaust,

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so there's nothing that's going to the upper atmosphere. You know,

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vapor is going to be able to wrap around.

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Right.

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Compare that with a kim trail that coming out of

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a plane, straight line again, and what you'll see is

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that it stays, and it stays for an extended period

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of time, a very extended period of time, and then

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starts to spread out and be come diffuse in the sky.

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Very simple to do. And what I tell everybody is this,

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God does not build in straight lines. That's how you know.

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That's how you know it's man made and there's no

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you know, middle ground with it.

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Who's paying for these.

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Airport are we have America. This is American taxpayer funded

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self depopulation. This is definitely American taxpayer funded, absolutely.

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And it's it's a a eugenics move.

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This is a true eugenics move. And thank you for

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bringing that word up. Here's this whole word that people

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have out there, and it's like, well, what is eugenics really?

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When you think of eugenics, you're thinking about the highest form,

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the most destructive form of racism there could ever be.

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It actually bleeds into a classism where it's about how

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much money do you have in your account and not.

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They only want to keep people with a certain level

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of bank account status and everybody else is now just

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posable because they feel like they have entered into the

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age of artificial intelligence and robotics and now the workforce

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is replaceable and can be under their full dominion, which

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they've never been able to do in our known history,

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you know, stating all the way back to the Egyptians.

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Well, population growth has driven them crazy. Bill Gates has

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been noted, you know, to respond to this. They were

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going nuts when the population of the world got to

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two billion. We're now over eight billion, So they've got

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to be totally catatonic because they just believe in their

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own estimation it's unsustainable in their Earth's mind. They believe

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that the earth cannot sustain eight billion. But look what

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we're doing. I mean, we've got more people eating. We've

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got plenty of food for people. The thing that's been

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getting in the way or governments and people that want

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to kill their own.

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People, right, And this is where who gave them dominion?

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They exactly, they gave them dominion. And if we're not

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willing to hold them accountable for what is murder, I mean,

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we can't call it anything other than what it is.

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And uh, then we're we are going to go the

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way of the Dodo. You know, people like you and

1383
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me are not going to be here, and so they

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have to They have multiple it's a multiple pronged strategy.

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It involves social engineering of course, with the the DEI

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and things like that. It involves you know, vaccination. Clearly

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Bill Gates has been on records saying we can lower

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population vaccination. Nobody really called him on that. You know.

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It definitely includes these new cell phone towers and this web,

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this invisible web of electricity that's all around the alternating

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current electricity that's all around us, and it definitely includes

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things like them. What you're seeing in the sky is fumigation.

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What would you do if you had a bug, You'd

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spray it. That's what they think. So we're bugs or

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they're going to sprays. So but to bring it back

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to what we what you originally had brought up, Bill,

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we we did some experimenting ourselves and what happened was,

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you know, you have Daane Wiggington confirming something. You have

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Mike Adams confirming something with the sky, you know, getting

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a little snow cloud that doesn't melt. You know, you've

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seen these things where I can't believe. I had an

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argument with somebody about but tane. They said that buttane

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wouldn't melt a snowball and a and I'm like, that's absurd,

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we're talking about you know, is that twelve hundred degrees

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or something like that fahrenheit. You know it's gonna melt.

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So they're like they're like, oh, no, it would just

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burn it. I'm like, no, that it burns plastic. So anyway,

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so what we did was I was wondering what comes

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out in our sweat because my my thought, Bill always

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becomes how can I help the people? How can I

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how can we find solutions to get this stuff out

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because it's getting in no matter what you want to do,

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01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:46.640
it's going to get it. And so one day after

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a heavy kim trail sprang. The next day I went

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and gotten my sauna INFRARETSNA and collected sweat samples of you,

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which was not the easiest thing to do. Uh, send

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it off to a lab doctor's data and talk to

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the lab guys there. I was like, Hey, this is

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01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.720
a sweat sample. Can we test it for heavy metals?

1421
01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:06.439
And they're like, yeah, of course we can. It's just

1422
01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:08.399
a fluid. Well, we'll be able to tell you what's

1423
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:11.840
in it. I'm expecting to see basically next to nothing, Bill, Right,

1424
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:13.399
I'm expecting to see next to nothing.

1425
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:17.119
Because you're out in Arizona, right. So yeah, it's like, hey,

1426
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:18.439
it shouldn't be a problem.

1427
01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:21.560
Yeah, this is nothing. So our first, our first test

1428
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:26.600
we ran actually came back aluminum was two thousand, seven

1429
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:33.399
hundred and thirty eight nanograms per gram, which was enormously

1430
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.720
high and enormously higher than any other heavy metal that

1431
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.720
we tested for. So it was like, oh my god, wow,

1432
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:42.760
that just happened the kim trail in this. So that's

1433
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:45.720
that's but that's one data points. You're like, I can't overreact.

1434
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:48.960
So then what we did was we said, well, let's

1435
01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:51.840
see what happens when there's like no kim trails for

1436
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.479
like six days in a row, you know, let's let's

1437
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:56.960
make sure there's no kim trails. Let's repeat the tests

1438
01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:59.800
and see are we still coming out at two thousand

1439
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:02.399
you know, you know, and just see that was there's

1440
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:05.960
no correlation there. Well, when we did that six days,

1441
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:10.079
no kim trails, sweat tests, same exact methods, everything, aluminum

1442
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:12.840
only came out at two hundred and eighty one nanograms

1443
01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:15.399
per gram, so it's about a tenfold drop.

1444
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:17.479
So its okay.

1445
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.319
So so it went down right, So I'm like, okay,

1446
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:23.800
that's great, and now let's do it again. Let's test,

1447
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:27.279
let's repeat the test. And so we repeat the test

1448
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:32.920
and after day after kim trail sprang two thousand, nine

1449
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:37.920
hundred and fifty eight nanograms per gram. So so what

1450
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:40.199
we so that that helped us a lot with two

1451
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:42.960
very important things for your audience Number one, we have

1452
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.159
a way to get aluminum out of the system, this

1453
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:49.600
nano illuminum out. That's great. Simply put, the first step

1454
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:54.239
is get yourself sweating, get yourself into a sauna. Is

1455
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:56.800
within twenty four hours of seeing a kim trail, like

1456
01:17:56.880 --> 01:17:59.319
that's my habit. Now I see a kim trail, I'm there.

1457
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:03.399
Second thing was that we followed this up with some

1458
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.039
urine testing, and we want to want to see what

1459
01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:08.760
are as another way that the body can get rid

1460
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:12.640
of this stuff, and so we correlated it not with

1461
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:16.840
kim trails, but we correlated it with the use of

1462
01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:21.840
boron because we wanted to do was we're concerned about

1463
01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:25.880
the size of the metal being able to embed itself

1464
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:29.000
long term in the cell. That's the big concern, especially

1465
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:31.279
when we're talking about a nervous system, and especially when

1466
01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:34.640
we're talking about for our seniors and really anybody over

1467
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:37.119
forty at this point, I mean, you're talking about rapid

1468
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:40.279
accumulation of aluminum. We got to get this stuff out.

1469
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:44.439
So what we did was we turned up the dial

1470
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:48.000
on dosing of boron for a short period of time

1471
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:51.000
a couple of days, and we prove that you can

1472
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.720
actually keelate, which is how to remove heavy metals from

1473
01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:57.680
the body by using boron. You don't need to use

1474
01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:01.840
these very strong and very harsh synthetic compounds. You can

1475
01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:06.039
actually just use minerals with the correct electrical charge on

1476
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:08.760
them to get this stuff out. So it's very exciting.

1477
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:11.960
It's the first test I've ever heard of anywhere exactly

1478
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.760
proving this right. Yeah, so we.

1479
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:16.800
We got about a minute and a half left here,

1480
01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:17.479
so okay.

1481
01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:20.800
Well yeah, no, no, it's great. Let's wrap it up for everybody.

1482
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:23.279
Two things new, so situation, you see a kim trail,

1483
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:25.880
what do you do? Number one, make sure you sweat

1484
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:29.079
for about thirty minutes with it in an infrared sauna.

1485
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:33.479
Get that stuff out and SIMP infrared sauna. Important to

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purchase in this dan and age. Important to have. One

1487
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second thing our recommendation has become and I can tell

1488
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:42.600
you what I do is I take twelve to eighteen

1489
01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:46.960
milligrams of boron on kim trail days as a preventative

1490
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:50.479
for the aluminum being able to bind. And for anybody

1491
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who wants to learn more about this, just come and

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hang out with us at the Energetic Health Institute. We

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like this, we can keep teaching Americans how to be

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healthy in this age of bioweapons.

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Again, ladies and gentlemen, Unfortunately, our country operates on greed,

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they're anti human, and they're very dangerous and they are

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the website you need to go to is Energetic Health

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Of you right absolutely. Bill, thanks for having it's great

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to see you again, my friend.

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Always take care me well.

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And We're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with

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Jeff Kemp, the ministry leader and author. A mister Jeff,

1582
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now we doing t good?

1583
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How are you, Bill Hey?

1584
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Having all kinds of fun? I'll tell you it adds

1585
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your still spinning over the controversy, you know, and you

1586
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:08.479
know between the Pope and Donald Trump, and you know,

1587
01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:11.720
Frankly is a Catholic. I was disappointed. I had shared

1588
01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:14.560
with some men. I said, I'd much rather had the

1589
01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.720
Pope say, look at. You know, as Catholics, we believe

1590
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:19.640
in peace, and we're praying for peace, and that's all

1591
01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:22.520
had to be said. He got caught to me when

1592
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.560
I look at, and I had a hard time. Was

1593
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interesting how the media and social media and you know,

1594
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:32.960
Gronk and other you know, search engines, how they've been

1595
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:36.840
handling this deal. It's like they're protecting a narrative. And

1596
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:40.800
it's hard to get a specific transcript on exactly what

1597
01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:43.840
the Pope said and what Donald Trump said a lot

1598
01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:47.960
of commentary. But as I shared with some men, I said,

1599
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:49.760
look at, you got to get the context. You got

1600
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:52.520
to understand what's going on. But first of all, you

1601
01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:55.960
can always tell when things are of humankind, and that

1602
01:25:56.159 --> 01:26:00.560
is that peace doesn't come into the environment. It creates quarrels.

1603
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:04.640
Is two Timothy writes about and so that should be

1604
01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:05.560
quite telling there.

1605
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:09.239
So to say that again, peace doesn't come into the environment,

1606
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:10.520
it creates quarrels.

1607
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:12.960
What are you saying, Well, what I'm saying is that

1608
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:16.479
I said that when you have human when you have

1609
01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:20.239
human opinions and contact coming into play as opposed to

1610
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:27.000
spiritual and godly counsel and wisdom. Like for example, the

1611
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:30.960
tennis tournament in Australia, right the tennis players they were

1612
01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:33.560
asked about Trump and they go, what are you talking about?

1613
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:35.720
We're here to play tennis. Where did that come from?

1614
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:35.920
You know?

1615
01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:38.479
Kind of they stayed in their lane, They stayed focused,

1616
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:41.000
stay true to what they were there to do. And

1617
01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:44.520
I think that that's a good example for many people,

1618
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.680
especially you know, some people that are important positions, whether

1619
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:51.399
it's the president or it's you know, a religious figure

1620
01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:54.319
like the Pope, that there is a lane that you

1621
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:57.079
must honor and stay true to. When you get out

1622
01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:02.119
of that lane, then you create controversy and you leave

1623
01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:07.039
yourself unprotected because what happens, like you know, like we

1624
01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:11.079
learn about our spiritual walk is that we are to submit.

1625
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.079
When you submit to God, you submit to his protection

1626
01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:17.439
and you're not gonna you know. And again, he may

1627
01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:19.319
be the pope and some people think, well, you know,

1628
01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:23.159
all honor and glory. But again, in Catholic terms, the

1629
01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:26.319
only time the pope is infallible with issues of that

1630
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:30.039
have to do with doctrine, not with political opinion. So

1631
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:33.880
when he gets into the political realm, then he opens

1632
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:37.720
himself and he comes out from the covering of God

1633
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:41.359
because he's not submitting to God. Does that make sense?

1634
01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:45.560
No, I hear you. I was just thinking of a

1635
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:51.880
Bible verse that talks about not considering things that are

1636
01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:55.319
too large and too great for me, and that sounds

1637
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:57.880
to me like it's those things that are outside of

1638
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:02.159
the realm of my dominion. Okay, And you're speaking about

1639
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:07.800
there's a dominion that the pope represents of ecclesiastical theological leadership.

1640
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:12.960
There's a dominion that a president has which doesn't cross

1641
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:19.399
into explaining theological things. It's right with geopolitical and national things.

1642
01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:21.600
I'm looking for that verse.

1643
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.199
And why you look for that verse? You know, the

1644
01:28:25.239 --> 01:28:27.800
thing is that you would hope, especially when you are

1645
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:30.119
in your own lane, whether it's the pope in his lane.

1646
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.399
Is that you would have people that would come alongside

1647
01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:34.119
and say, you know, look at I know, this is

1648
01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:36.359
a tough time for you. You're having a challenge dealing

1649
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:38.439
with this. I'm just praying that God would give you

1650
01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:42.399
wisdom and insight to find this solution right and to

1651
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:46.079
be able to communicate that to, you know, to the

1652
01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:49.039
body of the church. And the same thing with the president.

1653
01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:51.279
I mean, Donald Trump's been dealing with all kinds of

1654
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:55.079
stuff with Iran and trying to navigate these you know,

1655
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:58.800
the crazy IRGC and these people that are just hungry

1656
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:02.680
for power, they're desperate, and you know, we've been dealing

1657
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.319
with these people. But for forty seven years, millions of

1658
01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:09.680
people have died, maybe not millions, but certainly hundreds of

1659
01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:12.760
thousands of people have died because of their terrorist activities

1660
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:18.039
all combined. And you know, instead of having somebody, I mean,

1661
01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:20.720
poor Donald Trump, I say that and say, if you, oh,

1662
01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:24.600
poor Donald Trump. You know, here's trying to save the world,

1663
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:28.319
save our country, keep you know, a nuclear weapon out

1664
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:30.840
of the hands of a terrorist group. And it's bad

1665
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:33.600
enough he's got his own own politicians here in America.

1666
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.960
You got the media and Now you got the pope

1667
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:40.880
who the day before meets with David Axelrod, a democratic operative,

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01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:44.000
and then the next day he comes out with this,

1669
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:48.439
and it's like, uh not, no boint.

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01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:54.239
I found the passage in the English Standard version of

1671
01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:59.039
the Bible. Actually, I've got the home in Christian Standard Bible.

1672
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:02.359
This is David in the Psalms. He says, Lord, my

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01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:06.880
heart is not proud, my eyes are not haughty, which

1674
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:10.600
is an arrogance that I know everything. I do not

1675
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:15.520
get involved with things too great or too difficult for me,

1676
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:23.119
and other versions Internet isv my heart is not arrogant,

1677
01:30:23.720 --> 01:30:26.119
nor do I look in haughty ways. I do not

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01:30:26.279 --> 01:30:31.119
aspire to great things or concern myself with things beyond

1679
01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:36.840
my ability, basically outside of my lane. I'm going to

1680
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:42.680
leave sovereignty over the world to God. I'm going to

1681
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:48.239
focus on my wife, my children, my neighborhood. Okay, I'm

1682
01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:51.359
a citizen in America. I will vote. I may run

1683
01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:54.239
for school board, I may run for state legislature, I

1684
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:58.199
may run for Congress. If I run for Senate or

1685
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:02.079
become a judge, then I am accountable to deal with

1686
01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:05.279
issues that come before that body. Right, But if I

1687
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:09.880
am a pastor or a priest, or a cardinal or

1688
01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:14.920
a pope, then you're not necessarily more holy than David

1689
01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:18.239
who wrote the Psalms. So you concern yourself with the

1690
01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:23.279
things that concern you. Now. Donald Trump has so many

1691
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:32.359
stylistic flaws that he's easy to pick on, and I

1692
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:35.199
think he deserves to be called out when he makes

1693
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:40.560
insensitive and you know ad hominem attacks on people, etc.

1694
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:48.199
But you're right about the responsibility of fighting for freedom,

1695
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:51.720
trying to end terrorism, to stabilize a part of the

1696
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:55.000
world that has created instability. And if you take a

1697
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.319
look at Iranian people that live in America oro have

1698
01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:02.199
left their nation, they're celebrating the opportunity that perhaps those

1699
01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:04.479
evil regimes would be ending.

1700
01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:06.039
Exactly, it be a.

1701
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:10.239
True chance for freedom, freedom of religion, even you know,

1702
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:14.880
the Muslim religion isn't free to be practiced without the

1703
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:21.399
jihadic intense craziness, the extremists. And you can find many

1704
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:25.560
Muslim people in different parts of the world, even though

1705
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:28.720
you could critique the religion all the way back to Muhammad,

1706
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:34.199
who practice something very different than what that extreme group

1707
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:39.159
of leaders in Iran is practiced. So freedom is something

1708
01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:42.960
that people want, and that's what the president and the

1709
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:47.760
policy is intended to create. And your point of each

1710
01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:50.000
of us stay in our lane makes sense. What are

1711
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:52.800
popes for? Therefore, praying for presidents and everyone should be

1712
01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:54.079
praying for presidents and people.

1713
01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:58.960
That's scriptural, right, exactly, And of course it's also scriptural

1714
01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:01.239
in the Book of Romans it says God is the

1715
01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:04.720
one who establishes government and gives them the power to

1716
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:07.319
wield the sword. Right, because this was one of the

1717
01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:10.800
things that Pope had said something about, you know, God

1718
01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:15.279
doesn't answer prayers for war. Well, that's not true because

1719
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:17.640
throughout the Old Testament time and again the children of

1720
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:21.199
Israel conducted war and God was leading the way for them. So,

1721
01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:24.199
you know, it just some of those things where you

1722
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:27.479
get you know, the emotions come up, you get out

1723
01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:29.640
of your lane, you say, goofy things and things that

1724
01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:32.079
you think, gosh, this is coming from you know, a

1725
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:35.239
religious leader. You would expect a higher deal, just in

1726
01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:38.680
the same way that we expect a higher level. You know,

1727
01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.159
if Donald Trumps president of the United States, but Donald

1728
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:43.920
Trump's Donald Trump. You know, he is who he is.

1729
01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:46.199
And the fact of the matter is, yes, he says

1730
01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:49.079
things that, you know I and immediately I pray for him,

1731
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:52.199
and he says, hey, we're going to destroy an entire civilization.

1732
01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:56.039
Now I get I knew what he meant, but I

1733
01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:57.960
also knew what the Democrats were going to do with it.

1734
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:00.399
And sure enough in the media and everything like that,

1735
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:02.600
and it's like, well, wait a minute. You know, think

1736
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:07.520
about it that the Molas the Ayatola forty seven years

1737
01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:12.800
ago erased an entire civilization, the Persian civilization, Iran as

1738
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:15.720
they knew it. They just destroyed it and took over

1739
01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:21.199
with this. So you know the context and the bottom

1740
01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:23.359
line of what Donald Trump was trying to do with

1741
01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:27.680
his rhetoric, bombastic as it is, because that's who he is.

1742
01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:30.680
He got them to the bargaining table. They said, God,

1743
01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:32.840
this guy's crazy enough, maybe we better talk to him.

1744
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:33.079
Right.

1745
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:37.800
Yeah, this is complicated for us to parse out as

1746
01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:43.039
much as to say, a we pray for spiritual leaders, Yeah,

1747
01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:48.600
we expected them. They're not infallible. Jesus was infallible, and

1748
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:51.800
the Word of God is infallible. We pray for political

1749
01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:56.079
and governmental leaders, and we pray that God would move

1750
01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:59.560
leaders into and out of power and give them the

1751
01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:05.479
guidance the wisdom and humility to govern. Well, we should critique,

1752
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:11.239
I think in a way that is very humble and realizing.

1753
01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:13.039
You know, but for the grace of God, if I

1754
01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:14.520
was in that position, what would I do?

1755
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:19.399
Yeah, exactly, They'd be talking about you and me, about

1756
01:35:19.399 --> 01:35:20.560
the lane we wouldn't stay in.

1757
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:27.079
Of course, of course your show isn't afraid to talk

1758
01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:31.239
about the issues of the day, but avoiding the bombastic

1759
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:36.399
ad hoc attacks, ab hominem attacks of emotion. And that's

1760
01:35:36.439 --> 01:35:39.439
what's dominating today. And I think it's because the environment

1761
01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:42.479
on anonymous social media gets everyone more riled up. I

1762
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:45.680
even went to a homeowner association meeting in my nice

1763
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:50.000
little neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, and so many people

1764
01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:54.920
there started off with total skeptical, accusatory questions of the

1765
01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:59.720
homeowner's board members and the builders who built the neighborhood.

1766
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:01.680
And I was like, gosh, that's the same tone I

1767
01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:03.560
see on the internet. We're just a bunch of neighbors.

1768
01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:08.800
Can't we ask questions and politeness? And I want this show,

1769
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.479
I want my role, I want the way you and

1770
01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:14.199
I speak to contribute to you. Let's pray for those

1771
01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:19.840
in authority let's stay in our lane. Let's bring biblical

1772
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:22.920
wisdom and civility to every issue, which means we can

1773
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.760
speak truth, we can debate. My gosh I used to

1774
01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:31.000
debate political issues intensely, but he always respected the person right.

1775
01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:33.479
Well, after it's all said and done, my prayer is

1776
01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:37.560
that we'd find peace, okay, because that's when you know

1777
01:36:37.960 --> 01:36:40.720
that God is in the center of the solution. That's

1778
01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:44.520
what my earlier point is that are we coming to peace?

1779
01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:49.520
And because when we're at peace, we're a powerful force,

1780
01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:53.760
a powerful force for good because we're partnering with God,

1781
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:55.279
because God is peace right.

1782
01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:59.399
Yeah, Well, God is a deeper perspective of peace than

1783
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:02.079
what the world looks at. The world says a lack

1784
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:07.119
of conflict is peace. But if a group of people

1785
01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:13.439
are in agreement over doing evil, that that isn't true peace. Exactly,

1786
01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:17.680
peace is shalom. It is the presence of God, the

1787
01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:22.239
peace of God. It's not just temporary, it's eternal. There

1788
01:37:22.279 --> 01:37:26.319
will never be perfect peace on earth until Jesus returns.

1789
01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:30.359
Exactly grades things and God's full justice will come. And

1790
01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:33.760
the Bible says, over and over, leave justice to me God.

1791
01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:37.560
God is the only one perfect and pure enough to

1792
01:37:37.760 --> 01:37:39.000
handle justice.

1793
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:41.520
Because he knows the hearts of all men.

1794
01:37:42.199 --> 01:37:45.079
He does, and he will. He will pay back the

1795
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:49.520
rapists and the murderers and the sex traffickers and uh,

1796
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:54.600
the sexists and the discriminatory people, and those who have

1797
01:37:54.840 --> 01:38:00.079
stolen and used and abused people. And we don't executan

1798
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:02.840
justice perfectly. Well, that's why we leave it up to

1799
01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:06.000
the courts and a jury of your peers. And why

1800
01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:10.600
grace and forgiving works much better for humans, because it's

1801
01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:13.239
the kindness of God that leads to repents, being kind

1802
01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:18.520
to another personal different political persuasion, and respecting their human dignity,

1803
01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:21.760
not just label them a category. That's going to be

1804
01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:25.359
more effective. And it's also important bill in family relationships

1805
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:28.960
because these days many young generations, not unlike the Vietnam

1806
01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:32.600
generation or generations before, have turned against their parents, and

1807
01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:36.039
they're vehemently angry at their parents for their political views,

1808
01:38:36.119 --> 01:38:38.680
or their moral views, or their religious views. But there's

1809
01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:40.920
this new thing called cancel your parents.

1810
01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:44.119
Oh, cancel your parents.

1811
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:46.960
Canceling your parents is writing off that relationship. I can't

1812
01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:49.000
deal with you if your values are voting for Donald

1813
01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:52.920
Trump or whatever it is. We need to let people

1814
01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:56.720
know you're cutting off your foot despite your nose. You

1815
01:38:56.760 --> 01:39:01.359
know we're damaging human relationships over issues and ideology, and

1816
01:39:01.399 --> 01:39:03.880
that is the opposite of peace. We can have shalam

1817
01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:08.359
of relationships even when ideas and opinions are different. So

1818
01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:12.640
let's represent the peace of Christ right in every relationship

1819
01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:14.079
we can, which is correctly.

1820
01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:16.199
Well, we got to wrap it up there, Jeff Kemp,

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01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:18.159
thank you so much. As always, where can people go

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here. Good morning to you,

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and good morning to Gary Schneeberger for Focus on Family.

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Mister Gary, how we doing.

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I am doing well.

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01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.399
Hey, great to be talking to you. Lots to catch

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01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:48.720
up on.

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01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:50.560
JD.

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01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:53.439
Vance, the Vice President United States, gave Focus a good

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01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:54.840
little shout out here recently.

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01:43:55.920 --> 01:44:01.600
Yeah, that was surprising and very very humbling and honoring

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01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:06.600
for us to hear him. When asked right where he developed,

1909
01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:10.600
how he developed as a younger man his political perspectives,

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01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:14.560
he cited focus on the family and our founder, doctor

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01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:18.239
James Dobson specifically in what he was talking about, because

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01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:20.720
that's who was president of the organization when JD Vance

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01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:21.159
was young.

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01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:25.960
Exactly. Well, and of course we know JD Vance's story,

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01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:29.520
you know from his book, his infamous book which really

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01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:34.279
catapulted his career and brought him into the political scene.

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01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:37.560
Yeah, I mean hill Billy Elegy. He talks a lot

1918
01:44:37.600 --> 01:44:42.079
about just the dysfunctions of his childhood. And one of

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01:44:42.159 --> 01:44:44.359
the things that really struck us that focus when we

1920
01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:47.279
heard that he mentioned us. In the context in which

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01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:49.640
he mentioned us is that our own president, Jim Daily

1922
01:44:51.359 --> 01:44:53.319
has some similar circumstances.

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01:44:53.479 --> 01:44:53.800
Right.

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JD.

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01:44:54.319 --> 01:44:57.760
Vance wrote a book called hill Billy Elegy, Jim's from California.

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01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.199
He could maybe have done Hollywood Eligi.

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01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:03.720
Elogy or something like that, right, Yeah.

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Because of the things that he went through, he went

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01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:07.880
he and JD. Vance have more than a little bit

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01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:10.359
in common in terms of dysfunctional childhoods.

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01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:10.840
Right.

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And and of course, you know, for for JD. Vance,

1933
01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:18.920
he had a lot of encouragement and some direction finding himself,

1934
01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:22.319
you know, without really a true father figure for all

1935
01:45:22.439 --> 01:45:24.600
ten purposes, right, yeah, oh.

1936
01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:28.319
For sure. I mean he he he leaned into what

1937
01:45:28.399 --> 01:45:31.039
focus provided and what I thought was very interesting about

1938
01:45:31.039 --> 01:45:33.560
his answer, right. This came during the Q and a

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01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:38.000
portion of Vance's appearance at a Turning Point USA event,

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01:45:38.479 --> 01:45:41.640
And while he was asked about where he developed his

1941
01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:44.760
political perspectives, really what he talked about is he talked

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01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:47.920
about what focused on the family provided him was a

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01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:50.159
sense of belonging in the sense of even though he

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01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:53.680
was from a quote unquote broken family, he himself wasn't broken.

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01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:56.800
And I think that was really interesting because he was

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01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:59.199
asked about politics, and really what he talked about is

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01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:02.680
the sav for his heart that focus on the family

1948
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:05.560
provided And we've been doing that now for almost fifty.

1949
01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:10.520
Years, right well, because you know JD. Vance, like which

1950
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:12.279
seems to be the movement of a lot of young

1951
01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:15.319
kids these days, he was in search for the truth

1952
01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:18.439
and when he found the truth, it was that bomb

1953
01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:21.520
of Gilead for his rounded soul, right.

1954
01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:24.920
Oh for sure. And that bill is the thing that

1955
01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:28.760
really meant the most to us. Yes, honoring, humbling that

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01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:32.079
the Vice President of the United States would mention focus

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01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:34.680
on the family as a huge influence in his life,

1958
01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:39.760
especially his younger life. But the thing that that's not

1959
01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:41.439
why we do what we do. It's nice to get

1960
01:46:41.479 --> 01:46:44.319
those Ata boys, get those accolades, but we do it

1961
01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:48.079
for our next door neighbors. We do it for average

1962
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:52.000
everyday Americans who may or may not likely may not

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01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:55.359
grow up to be Vice President of the United States.

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01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:58.640
We help families thrive in Christ who are dealing with

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01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:01.079
some of the same things that ad Vance dealt with,

1966
01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:03.119
some of the same things that Jim Daily dealt with.

1967
01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:07.479
Yeah, because whether you're a vice president or you know,

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01:47:07.520 --> 01:47:10.560
whatever station in life, you may have. Last time I checked,

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01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:12.800
you're still made in the image of God, right.

1970
01:47:13.239 --> 01:47:15.680
Oh, absolutely, And that's you know, one of the things

1971
01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:19.880
that we did when this came out, as we went

1972
01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:21.880
and just looked through some of our impact letters of

1973
01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:24.439
folks through the years. And here's an example. Not the

1974
01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:27.520
Vice President of the United States, but a woman named

1975
01:47:28.199 --> 01:47:31.880
Britt from Alabama wrote this to us once. I want

1976
01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:34.479
you to know how very impactful Adventures and Odyssey has

1977
01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:37.279
been for my children. As a single mom with two

1978
01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:39.319
little ones, we have not had an easy life. My

1979
01:47:39.399 --> 01:47:41.880
son is seven and without fail, we listened to your

1980
01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.640
program every day. Because of the content you've delivered. My

1981
01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:49.039
seven year old chose to pray and ask Jesus into

1982
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:51.520
his heart. That's where the rubber meets the road for

1983
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:55.239
focus on the family. Not in atta boys from the

1984
01:47:55.279 --> 01:47:59.199
Vice President. As very moving and meaningful as that is.

1985
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:03.159
That God says that look at if somebody helps you spiritually,

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01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:05.640
that you should not hold back, that you should let

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01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:09.720
him know. And so that's that's a command, uh, you know,

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01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:12.119
a bit of advice and counsel from the word of God.

1989
01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:13.960
So whether you happen to be the vice president of

1990
01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:16.479
president of the United States, or in this particular case,

1991
01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:18.920
a seven year old and oh yeah, by the way,

1992
01:48:19.319 --> 01:48:22.560
speaking Adventures in Odyssey. Uh, if we can for just

1993
01:48:22.600 --> 01:48:26.239
a moment, just uh a segue and and and we'll

1994
01:48:26.279 --> 01:48:28.760
come back to the main topic here, but adventures. And

1995
01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:31.920
you've got a movie coming out that uh has been

1996
01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:35.039
inspired by Adventures in Odyssey, right, your first one.

1997
01:48:35.680 --> 01:48:38.680
Yeah, well yeah, it's uh it's it's going to be

1998
01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:43.000
a theatrical release this fall. And it's uh, it's it's

1999
01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:46.760
it's a prequel, right, it happens all the time, uh

2000
01:48:47.319 --> 01:48:51.640
in with I p you know, uh with with movies

2001
01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:55.159
and characters. And we've done the Adventures in Odyssey uh

2002
01:48:55.279 --> 01:48:58.840
radio theater forever. Uh, but now we're where there's a

2003
01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:01.680
new animated film coming not this Fault, which tells the

2004
01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:04.439
story of a young wit, the owner of the soda

2005
01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:07.319
shop and adventures of Odyssey. But before that, Bill he

2006
01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:11.479
was a secret agent and he taught and this movie

2007
01:49:12.119 --> 01:49:17.920
really entirely new, some new characters, but a new perspective

2008
01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:20.840
on the characters, you know. And it's uh, it's it's

2009
01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:24.880
going to appeal both to kids today and kids who

2010
01:49:25.039 --> 01:49:28.079
listened to Adventures in Odyssey when they were kids. Who

2011
01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:30.640
are now not so much. Kids are a little bit older.

2012
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:33.920
So we're really looking forward for folks being able to see.

2013
01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:37.359
That well and recounting, like you said, it's not about awards.

2014
01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:41.000
This is just about the lives of people. Uh and uh,

2015
01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:44.800
you know doctor James Dobson in which the vision focused

2016
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:48.479
on the family has continued. Jim Daly has picked up

2017
01:49:48.520 --> 01:49:51.439
the mantle and continues to run with it along with

2018
01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:55.800
the team there in Colorado. And uh so, whether it's

2019
01:49:55.840 --> 01:50:02.399
you know, broken marriages, crises with pregnancies, suicide, go right

2020
01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:06.399
on down the list. Focus on the family has continues

2021
01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:10.880
to be the vanguard of healing and peace for people

2022
01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:11.880
in distress. Right.

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01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:17.520
Oh, absolutely, I mean it. It is a balm for

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01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:20.279
people's hearts. And again that was the impressive thing to

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01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:24.520
us when you listen to the comments Advice President Vance made.

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01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:26.800
He was asked about his political views, but he didn't

2027
01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:29.079
really talk about his political views. He talked about how

2028
01:50:29.079 --> 01:50:31.920
he felt like he was okay, he felt like he

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01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:35.039
was not less than which society made him feel like

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01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:36.840
as a child who grew up the way that he did,

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01:50:37.119 --> 01:50:40.279
he felt like he wasn't the broken toy. That's the

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01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:43.359
phrase Jim Taylor. Jim Daly has used about his own life.

2033
01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:45.560
When he became president of Focus on the Family, he

2034
01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:49.000
was like, wait a minute, I'm not the good toy.

2035
01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.960
I'm the broken toy. That was his initial reaction. So

2036
01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:56.920
what Focus tries to do, what we've had great success

2037
01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.920
praise the Lord in doing, is helping young people, help

2038
01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:03.520
being their parents, helping husbands and wives realize that they're

2039
01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:05.920
not broken toys either that there is a way back

2040
01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:07.319
to thrive in Christ.

2041
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:09.800
Well, I know, for you know, Jim Daily being a

2042
01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:13.239
public figure, and you've got Jadie Vance a public figure

2043
01:51:13.279 --> 01:51:16.560
telling their stories. I mean, the fact of the matter

2044
01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:19.640
is is this and these stories, these testimonies that you

2045
01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:24.119
begin to read about Briton, Alabama, there's so many others,

2046
01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:30.560
other testimonies for people to realize that what you know,

2047
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:34.359
Jim and what jd Vance, they're in the position right

2048
01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:37.039
now to come to the forefront to say, hey, this

2049
01:51:37.239 --> 01:51:40.880
happened to me, and like you said, you know the

2050
01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:43.239
way they we're treated as a broken toy or less

2051
01:51:43.279 --> 01:51:45.640
than and that kind of deal. And you watch these

2052
01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:48.840
men today and what an example and encouragement they are

2053
01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:51.800
to others who may have considered them less than whose

2054
01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:55.279
self esteem has been compromised. But here when they're attacked,

2055
01:51:55.520 --> 01:51:58.079
how do they act. I mean they act as if

2056
01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:01.039
they've been that that that's yesterday's news.

2057
01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:01.279
You know.

2058
01:52:02.119 --> 01:52:05.479
They they don't they they're not living their life through

2059
01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:08.600
their wound. They're living their life through their healing. Does

2060
01:52:08.680 --> 01:52:09.239
that makes sense?

2061
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:12.039
Oh, for sure. They're not living their life through their wound.

2062
01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:14.439
To your point, they're living their life through Christ's wounds, right,

2063
01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:16.920
They're living their life through through the redemption that they've

2064
01:52:16.960 --> 01:52:19.560
received through Jesus. I'll give you another example really quick.

2065
01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:22.399
A woman named Nancy from Florida told us that our

2066
01:52:22.439 --> 01:52:26.000
resources saved her marriage and her family, and she wrote this,

2067
01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:28.199
I started listening to your show in the nineties when

2068
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:31.880
my marriage was in distress. After counseling and conduct and

2069
01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:34.920
connecting with the local church, little by little, my marriage

2070
01:52:35.439 --> 01:52:39.439
was restored. Today, all my children follow God so right.

2071
01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:43.039
It helped her marriage, and that then sprinkled down through

2072
01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:45.640
the biblical wisdom and counsel they focused on. The family

2073
01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:49.119
offers is now landed. It landed with her children and

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01:52:49.159 --> 01:52:52.760
the entire family has saved. That is why we do

2075
01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:56.720
what we do. Again, great honoring that the Vice President

2076
01:52:56.720 --> 01:52:59.600
would give us a shout out. But more important to

2077
01:52:59.680 --> 01:53:03.119
us is the comments we hear every day from everyday

2078
01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:07.439
Americans and people around the globe who have been helped

2079
01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:10.439
by the biblical counsel and wisdom and perspective that Focus

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01:53:10.479 --> 01:53:11.479
offers their families.

2081
01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:13.000
You see, And this is the thing, This is why

2082
01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:17.640
family is so important, because the parents especially lead the example.

2083
01:53:18.039 --> 01:53:20.760
Here is a family in distress, probably not a great

2084
01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:23.000
example for the kids, and it was all in chaos.

2085
01:53:23.960 --> 01:53:26.079
Probably you can only imagine what that family must have

2086
01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:29.720
been going through. But as the family align themselves with

2087
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:34.640
Jesus Christ and godly principles, the parents get healed and

2088
01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:40.039
now you know, they're an example to their children, and

2089
01:53:40.159 --> 01:53:43.920
they bring their children into the church and in the

2090
01:53:43.960 --> 01:53:47.439
presence of a holy God that heals their wounds as well.

2091
01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:49.680
This is the way God operates, isn't it?

2092
01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:50.439
Oh?

2093
01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:52.560
For sure? And I'll give you an example, Bill, I

2094
01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:56.600
haven't told anybody outside of the Focus offices this, so

2095
01:53:56.680 --> 01:54:00.840
this is an exclusive to you outside the Barn of Focus.

2096
01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:04.079
You mentioned Jim and and and we've talked about his

2097
01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:06.279
upbringing and he felt like he was the broken toy.

2098
01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:10.159
Jim is now right now a book is being written.

2099
01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:13.960
He is the subject of a book by an author

2100
01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:18.039
who wrote two other books, The Faith of Condoleeza Rice.

2101
01:54:18.439 --> 01:54:21.199
You might have heard of her, the Faith of Mike Pence.

2102
01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:23.800
Folks who are listening may have heard of her. I

2103
01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:27.640
mean him right now. They've she's written books on these

2104
01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:30.079
two people. Now she's writing the book on the faith

2105
01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:32.239
of Jim Daily and we're in the process of providing

2106
01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:35.880
interviews for that. So that broken toy has now grown

2107
01:54:35.960 --> 01:54:39.279
up to someone who whose faith is going to be

2108
01:54:39.359 --> 01:54:46.680
spotlighted for people as as supernatural in the way that

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01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:48.720
he's that he's lived his life and he's and he's

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01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:52.399
led Focus. That's a very exciting thing for for us

2111
01:54:52.479 --> 01:54:55.680
at Focus because it shows just exactly what God can

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01:54:55.720 --> 01:55:00.119
do through men and women who are like Jim.

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01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:02.640
And what He does to all of us, regardless if

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01:55:02.680 --> 01:55:05.600
you happen to be somebody of notoriety or you just

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01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:10.159
are someone of consequence for a family, just somebody who

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01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:12.920
goes to work every day, works hard, provides for their family,

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01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.319
loves God, loves their family. We all have a testimony

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01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:19.039
to share, and our prayer is is that you would

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01:55:19.039 --> 01:55:22.359
share it with boldness, because that is something that the

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01:55:22.399 --> 01:55:25.880
people of our country, if not the world, need to hear.

2121
01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:29.359
Right, Gary, Oh, absolutely right. The Bible says we overcome

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01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:31.159
by the word of our testimony, and not just the

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01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:34.000
things we're facing, but the things other people are facing.

2124
01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:36.680
We help people overcome by the word of our testimony,

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01:55:36.720 --> 01:55:38.119
and that is exciting.

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01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:40.760
Well, Gary, we got to leave it there. Gary Sneberger,

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