April 20, 2026
The Bill Martinez Show 04 20 26

The Bill Martinez Show 04 20 26
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Are you ready?
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Yeah, ok us do an Ill Martinez Live a program
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about current events.
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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.
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And now Bill Martinez.
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Well, good morning America. Glad you could join us. Bill
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Martinez here with the Senator Robert torres Selli joined us now. Senator,
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welcome to show. Good to have you with us.
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Thank you for having me.
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Well, he's on vacation and he's given us some time
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here to talk about talk about Iran. This this tentative
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cease fire on off again type of deal. You know,
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it just seems like not all the parties have gotten
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the memo that we are on a ceasefire. It seems
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like Hesbola can't help itself, still wants to send some
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missiles into Israel. And then at the last minute it
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seems like Iron says, hey, look, we want we want
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Lebanon included in this, you know, in this agreement right.
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Well, you know it needs to be Remember that these
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are treacherous people that we are dealing with. This is
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not an agreement among Western European nations.
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These are terrorists.
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By nature, people who have abused and killed thousands of
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their own people. It's one of the reasons why taking
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some action against the regime in Tehran was so necessary.
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Of all people on Earth, you would not want to
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have atomic weapons.
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It's these people. Look at the way they're behaving in the.
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Peace talks and then think about how they'd behave if
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they had a nuclear weapon. So, I know people have
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different views on it. I respect that. I know we're
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tired of foreign interventions. I am too. I know the
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price is enormous. I know we're frustrated that our allies
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won't help. But honestly, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, right
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or left, stopping round from having a nuclear weapon should
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be the one thing we all agree upon.
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Yeah, I would think so, because if not America, then
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who Obviously the Europeans, who you think, because neighboring nations
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that they are luck locer than America, you would think
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they have more to lose. And they've been, you know,
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somewhat laissez faire about this.
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You know, it's just more of the example that they've
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gotten seventy years of being used to the United States
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cleaning up their messages and handling their security and paying
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their bills.
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And you know, I want the Atlantic Alliance.
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I think it would be a mistake to get out
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of NATO. But the president, Republican or right, right or left,
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is right. This has to get rebalanced. And frankly, of
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all nations, the British now not wanting to help open
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the straits of Hormuz. I'll tell you they're lucky they
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got Donald Trump as president, not me, because if there
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was another Falklands crisis right now, they'd have a hard
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time getting help with the United States if I were
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in charge.
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Well, you got to know, Senator that Donald Trump is
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going to use tariffs on these nations that haven't cooperated
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number one. Number two, he's put pressure on NATO to
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up the anti in terms of their investment for self defense.
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You know, they thought, oh, he's going to cause a
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big problem with NATO and it's going to abandon because
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he insists that they maintain their two percent comman.
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But yeah, the problem he created with NATO is they
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got to start paying their part of the bills.
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That's the problem.
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It's not an American problem, it's a European problem. And
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you know, I'm not here to give a defense of
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Donald Trump. I've got my own differences with him on
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some things or another. But when people say that he
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has damage or destroyed NATO. The difference in NATO and
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the Trump administration is they're spending a trillion dollars more
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in their own defense.
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That's the difference. How is that a weaker NATO?
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Yeah, exactly. And you know, of course, you know so
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much has been politicized. And I get that, Senator, and
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I you know, even on this show, we as much
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as we try to keep it away from the political
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you know, my approach has been either it's pro American
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or it's anti American. What's in the best interests of America,
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and certainly nuclear Iran is not in the best interests
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of an America.
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And now this incredible move by the Iranians that they
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should control the Straits of Horror Moods, an international waterway
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for as long as there have been international treaties, the
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Person Gulf being shared by half a dozen leading economies
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in the world, and they want to control the Straits
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of Hormus. If we were to allow that to stand,
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and again, I know Americans retired of these conflicts.
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I know you don't want to take on this burden.
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But if you were to allow that to stand, the
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Chinese can say, well, we control the straits of Taiwan.
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The Malaysians or Indonesians could say we control the straits
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of Malaca.
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I mean, I could give you a list as long.
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As your arm of countries that would shut down international
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waterways and destroy the international economy.
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This cannot stand. It's piracy, right.
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Well, you know speaking of the Chinese, look what they
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tried to do with the Banama Canal.
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Well that's why in all these things, somewhere you have
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to push back. Yes, and that was one we pushed back.
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We pushed back gently. I mean, you know, we know
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what invaded Panama. We just said to them, this isn't
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gonna stand. You corrected, or we'll correct it. And that's
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what you do, and it and it worked. And this
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has to get corrected.
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To believe me.
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The Iranians are not going to want to get in
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a protracted fight with the United States Navy. It would
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it would be like the New Jersey National Guard taking
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on the US Navy.
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It's not going to happen. So let this play out.
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Well, especially when they're when their navy's underwater right now, right,
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their navy is underwater.
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But I will say this bill, too, is a reminder
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to people. You know, I back when I was a
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young member of the House of Representatives, the big fight was
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Ronald Reagan wanted a US Navy that was five hundred ships,
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and there's a great debate about it, and ultimately he
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prevailed and we had a five hundred ship navy. We're
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now at three point fifty and falling. We are the
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pre eminent world global power. We are by far the
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world's largest economy. If you want to maintain that position,
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you've got to maintain your strength.
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Well, this is over.
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I hope Democrats and Republicans can agree that Navy cannot
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shrink anymore exactly.
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Well, and I think that we're learning a lot, you know,
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from this military action that America has taken. I mean,
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we really have put on display our firepower. But as
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you said, this is why Donald Trump is saying we
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need one point five trillion, you know, because he's got
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some aggressive moves and plans.
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He does built.
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But the other lesson we've learned here is is that,
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you know, I know, people think that maybe the Congress
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shouldn't be making these decisions, the Pentagon should make it.
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Every time, in my considerable career in the House and
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the United States Senate. There was a fight between the
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Pentagon and the Congress. In the long run, the Congress
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tended to be right.
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And let me tell you why.
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If you leave it to the admirals and the generals,
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they will always buy the shiniest and biggest, showiest of equipment.
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And I understand that aircraft, carriers, cruisers.
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Whatever it may be. That's not all there is to
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military strength.
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The fact that in the war in Ukraine and now
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in the person Gulf, we're running out of ammunition.
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Yes, I know that's not showy.
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Nobody gets a metal because they increased our industrial base.
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But that's strength.
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The emphasis has to be on the depth of our
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industrial base. We can never be in a situation again
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where we wonder whether or not we can defend our
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interests more than a few weeks because we're out of ammunition,
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in this case long range air to ground missiles.
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Rebuild that base.
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Stop the showiness, stop showing off, just playing strength.
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Well, there's a lot to look at, even though, like
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you said, we've given quite the display, and I think
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it's to raise some concerns, you know, for Russia and
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China and you know our adversaries.
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Has it not well, I think Bill, you know, right now,
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if you're in the Persian Gulf or South Asia and
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you need to buy a new set of weapons, and
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you just see how the Chinese anti aircraft weapons performed
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in Iran, or these vaulted Russian S five hundred anti
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aircraft missiles a second look because to me they look
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like pure junk. So you can threaten to buy somebody
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else's weapons, but that's your problem, because as it stands
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right now, there's only one country in the world which
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is making current generation, high tech weapons, and it's the
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United States. And hats off to every engineer, every construction
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line worker, everybody who produced them. They are world class
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and we have an enormous reason to be proud of them,
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as we obviously should be of all these flyers and
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airmen and soldiers.
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Well, don't you like it that President Trump has up
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the game and added some sense of urgency in terms
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of you know, building you know, and increasing our strength
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as you mentioned earlier.
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I do, But I'll come back to strength.
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Isn't just it's launching more ships, which I said we need,
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and it's getting the continuing of the highest quality aircraft
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which we need.
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But it's also that industrial strength. A nation which does
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not have a strong industrial.
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Base to produce in numbers in the long term is
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not a world power. And this comes back not only
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to how quickly we can make missiles, but.
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If we lose our.
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Ability to make a luninium and steal those core items,
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you're not a world power.
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That comes back to the tariffs.
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We can disagree about one tower for another, but I
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these key measures of industrial strength, we cannot ever be
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