April 17, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 04 17 26

The Bill Martinez Show 04 17 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 04 17 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, OK, do it.

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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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It's six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now,

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Bill Martinez here and Mark jan Is back with us,

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author of the book Be Smart, Pay zero taxes, use

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the by borrow die strategy to get rich and stay rich.

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I mean, what a deal. Mark, I'm telling you, I

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just so love your book, and I love your counsel

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and everything. And you're just helping you know, thousands and

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thousands of us, you know, to you know, get out

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of debt and you know, live freely.

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Yeah.

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It's it's it's about it's about understanding good debt and

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bad debt. And I was even fortunate enough that I

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interviewed David Walker, he's the former Comptroller General of the

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United States, and we had a good talk about budgets

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and what's what's wrong with social security and taxes and

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all this good stuff. So when when the former Comptroller

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General decides to endorcerer book, I was like, that's a

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pretty cool uh yeah, pretty cool thing.

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So what was his solution for social security?

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You know what he said, it's a math problem. Social

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Security is fairly easy. It's just there's money coming in

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and money going out. So I think the only solution

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is they have to push it back later. I mean,

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social Security was designed when people would live to be sixty. Yeah,

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they're living to be one hundred, so there's no choice.

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You have to push it back. So he said, probably

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Tage seventy. And he's a pretty good insider. He is

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the former Comptroller General, so he has he sits in

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a lot of meetings where they discuss budgets and solutions

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for the country. He's been doing this for you know,

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thirty years. He did it under Bush and Clinton and

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even under under Obama. He was the you know, running

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the finances for the United States.

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Well, and the thing, you know, to me, I think

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people would accept some adjustments, but it has to be

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well thought out and balanced to understand that. Look at

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the government basically has misappropriated the funds of other constituents, right,

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And that's putting it nicely. If you and I did

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what the government did, we'd be in jail forever.

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Absolutely absolutely. I don't give you a little bit of

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a personal context on this. When I was an insurance investigator,

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be put before I got into finance. I was an

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insurance investigator in California and we did this case for

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the Veterans Administration. They wanted us to spend their budget,

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so they said, we have two hundred and fifty thousand

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dollars for this, can you spend it? So I documented

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that some of the worst fraud against the Veterans Administration

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I'd ever seen in fifteen years as an investigator. They

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just spent the budget. It wasn't about eliminating fraud. It

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was about spending the budget, you know what I mean. Exactly,

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So the government says, I have a billion dollar budget.

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I have to spend all of it by the end

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of the year. So waste you know, random projects, whatever,

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just blow it exactly, blow everything they possibly can't every

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single year otherwise they get they may not get the

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budget renewed. If they blow at all, they might get

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a bigger budget. So it's not a.

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Good the way it's incentivized. It incentivized all the wrong behavior.

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You know, We've been saying this for years, Mark that

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you know, at the end of the fiscal year, this

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is when they do these stupid purchases and spend you know,

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a million dollars for number two Taykonda Ruga pencils, because

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they just got to get the money out of there, right.

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They absolutely do. It's use it or lose it, so

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they will blow it on anything. And I mean it

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was crazy. These are the Veterans Administration spending a quarter million,

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and that's a quarter million that should have gone to

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veterans that needed it, exactly they it was three. It

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was three pronged because you had they spent the quarter million,

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didn't use the investigations to stop fraud. The quarter million

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should have gone to the people who need the fraud,

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and then they rewarded the people who are committing fraud.

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So it was it was three h three concerns. Concerns

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would be a different word, A different might be a word,

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a different word for that.

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And the thing is is that the government is so

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big that even with oversight, by the time they do

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the investigation, you know, you're you're you could be five

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more years of this kind of what I call it,

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what you want to call it misappropriation fraud. You know,

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it just keeps pig piling on itself. So you know,

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so by the time you really deal with it, you've

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got five years worth of problems as opposed to a

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year worth of problems.

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Right, yeah, And it's amazing that the media didn't pick

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this up. It was Nick Sureley, that's thing, some random independent,

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you know, young guy who's running around exposing fraud. It's

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amazing that the media never picked this up ever, because

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I don't think they care either.

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Because they're they're part. They're part of the program one

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way or another. I mean, whether they're getting direct benefit

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because they're protecting Unfortunately, a lot of these politicians are involved.

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They're part of the wheel in this whole enterprise. And

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Nick Shirley, he's an in dependent and so what's happening

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with him. He's got to pay for security.

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Now, Mark Yeah, absolute, Yeah. They leak, they leak his

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addresses out, they leak his family relatives out. They put

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these people in jail. I mean, it's just this doesn't

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happen to liberals, Like there's no docksing the liberals. I mean,

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it's it's amazing that the Democratic Party used to be

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like the hippies, and now they're about high taxes, big government,

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no finite no free freedom of speech is gone. It's

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not welcome anymore. Keep the kids, ignorant in schools, drug them,

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spend dollar money, blow waste and fraud. I mean, that's

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become the the that's become the the not the whole

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Democratic Party, but certainly a large port.

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Well enough of it that it's it is. Uh, it

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is the one that's driving their party right now. And

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you keep thinking, Okay, sooner or later they're going to

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find oblivion and go where they need to go. And

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that's the ash shape of history because they're killing the party,

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they're killing our country. They're not even American anymore in

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terms of spirit mark. I mean, they're really anti American,

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aren't they.

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Yeah, there's there's no I don't know, there's no faith there,

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there's nothing. They just they seem to idolize big government.

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I mean I think that's why. But I mean that's

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what happened with communism. They had to get rid of religion,

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They had to get rid of all faith because they

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wanted the government to do it. I mean, that's what

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happened in USS. Are all countries they have to get

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rid of you know, you have to take faith out

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of the schools, and that's what they're trying to do,

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you know, like so so it's it's it's a horrible,

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but you know, we're like, I think, did I did

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find some good news?

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Oh you did?

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Okay, go ahead.

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Liberals aren't breeding anymore. They're not having children, so that's

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the good news.

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Okay, they may, they may, they may go extenct we.

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Two, we're two to one right now. Conservatives are having

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babies at almost two to one ratio to liberals right now.

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So at least there's some good news on the horizon.

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And the Next Day Team twenty years.

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Well, and Charlie Kirk, you know, before his murder, was

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encouraging these young kids, you know, to get married, have

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lots of kids. Yeah, and because we need that kind

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of breeding of like minded people, people that do have

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a moral compass, not people that talk about it, right.

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Yeah. And the crazy part is like I run a

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financial education company or whatever, and I just I appreciate

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the people that are charitable. They're actually charitable. They are

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going to church all the time, they're going to church

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every day. They wanted to diving to their church. I

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like to help those people become financially free more than

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I help than somebody who's you know, I just don't

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I want to help a very specific part of the population.

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And I'm fortunately I'm a business owner. I don't need

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the money, I don't need the clients. They can't cancel me.

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So I get free speech. I get to say whatever

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I want. I don't care ifverybody doesn't come to my company.

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Right exactly. Well, that's and that's why we open up

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our own companies, because you can decide who it is

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you want to work with and who it is you

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want to help.

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Right absolutely.

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Yeah.

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The social media companies, they constantly shut down free speech

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and things like that. Fortunately we only have it on

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X right now. But yeah, you don't have free speech

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on Facebook and Instagram. They shut you down all the time.

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I mean, it's ridiculous trying to do business with them.

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So yeah, fortunately you on bought X. At least we

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have free speech on X.

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Exactly. Well, you think about what built Western civilization. It

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wasn't the progressives that think somehow that they have captured

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the market on it. If anything, when you look at

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what they've done there, there is a just millions of

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people in carnage and wasted lives left in the wake

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of these progressives. Is there not?

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There is there is? I mean I'm big on the

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in the education arena. Like I spend a lot of

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time working with Like I have a friend who runs

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classical owner. It's homeschooling, and yeah, we talk about it

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all the time. We need to re educate the kids, right,

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we need to take over at the education system. That's it.

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The Department Education's horrible, absolute failure. And fortunately we're getting

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a lot of good news on that. You know, charter

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schools are growing, exactly cool. Choice is growing. The biggest

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the biggest thing the Liberals did is they took over

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the education system. And that's brutal because if they're educating

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the kids, they're they're Jesse turning the kids into socialists.

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And then the teachers go from the schools, they go

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from this become students to the teachers and it starts

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to breed out of control.

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Right.

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So fortunately, you know, we're taking over the education system. No,

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it's actually the parents. It's not us. It's like parents

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get to choose, as it should be.

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We got to go to quick Break. We got more

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Hey, we're back with you. We're talking with Mark One,

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financial expert, author of the number one textbook Be Smart

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and Pay Zero Taxes, just to kind of wrap up

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what's going on in the education system. There's no doubt

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this was a targeted part of our way of life

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progressives to capture, you know, education. I did that at

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the turn of the twentieth century. So for over one

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hundred years, they have a terrible track record.

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Mark right, Yeah, kids can't read. I mean, trillions of

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dollars have gone towards education and the results are horrible.

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Kids can't read at grade level. And I saw this

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twenty five years ago in Los Angeles when I went

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to school there briefly in grade ten. I was so

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fortunately has a great education system. That's where I'm from originally,

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so I went to grade nine. I only that's the

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last time I attended school, at least high school was

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grade nine.

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I left.

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I went to California to Los Angeles. I started testing

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at grade eleven reading and math levels, even though I

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went to grade nine, right, And then the kids in

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Los Angeles, they were they were testing at grade six

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and reading in math levels. This was twenty five years

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ago and it's gotten worse. So literally, kids can't do

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they can't do basic.

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Math, right, what's their trajectory? I mean, think about it.

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If we keep them in this system, I mean, they

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are going to be so debilitated. I mean, who is

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going to carry Who's going to carry them?

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Mark?

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You can't, it's it's it's so bad.

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It so all the homeschoolers. The homeschoolers are going to

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have to carry their weight for them.

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I don't know what's going to happen there, but I

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mean that's why they want big government. They can just

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you know, grow the size of big government, take our

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tax dollars and then hire kids who can't read and

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write and give them jobs. I'm not sure what's that,

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what that's going to do, but I mean, I mean.

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Well, they're growing a dependent class.

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They are, they are, and that's the thing. I think

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there's a there's I don't know if there's an there

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are certainly an incentive to do that. If people are

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dependent on the government, you need more government as the solution,

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which means bigger budgets, which means bigger government, which means

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more spending and more taxes to the rest of us.

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So that's why I help americ ordinary Americans legally avoid taxes.

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I don't like taxes because I know they're being wasted.

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I don't mind paying some taxes, right, but I don't

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want to pay it pay you know, forty percent of

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my incomes, so I don't.

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I just yeah, to add to more of the incompetency.

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And of course, you know we've been seeing it. You know,

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when Elon Musk came on the scene with DOGE, I

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mean it was clear, you know, he had projected that

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easily he could find a trillion dollars in fraud, wasted

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abuse easy. But of course, you know there was one

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party and a group of people that did everything they

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could to put a stick in his spokes to you know,

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make sure that that was resisted because it was clear

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they were not interested in having a government that was efficient.

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Right, correct, No, there's too much money in waste. There's

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too many campaign contributions and backdoor deals and NGOs. But again,

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a lot of this money is being cut off right now.

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I mean there's a lot of money that was being

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that didn't it was going to places where we didn't

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know it was going. But we still need a lot

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of work. I mean, the Pentagon still can't pass an audit.

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I mean, I don't think it would be that hard

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to put everything on open source. It was enough money,

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you could put everything on open source. The government literally

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couldn't spend a penny. They couldn't spend one penny without

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the Americans know where it's going. It's an easy solution,

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but the government doesn't want that. Washington, DC does not

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want to go on open source. We would know where

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every single penny went, right.

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Well, you think about it. Trump is proposing increasing our

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budget for the military to one and a half trillion dollars.

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I mean it's like, can you imagine how much you

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know waste is already. I mean some of these people

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are licking their chops over that.

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Yeah, I don't like I don't like war personally. I

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think what's going on in Iran, I don't I don't.

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I don't like it. But if it's necessary, we needs

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to happen, and I do think it. I think I

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do agree with it. It needs to end soon. But

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you know what, there's so much waste at the Pentagon.

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I mean, it's just if you look at what they're

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doing at the VA twenty five years ago, do you

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have pretty much waste? There is at the Pentagon. Oh yeah,

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I mean so I posted the other day. I'm like, hey,

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there's one point six trillion dollar deficit. Great, let's go

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cut the government by one point six trillion dollars because

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there's definitely one point six trillion dollars a fraud, theft,

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and waste in the government. I guarantee it. So it

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would be, well, that's the budget tomorrow.

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No, you're exactly right. If that's the mission, if the voters,

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you know, finally in an uproar revolt against this fraud,

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waste and abuse. We all know it, but somehow it's

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just it's like because we don't realize that it's our money,

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because they keep coming to us and we keep having

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to carry the weight of all this fraud and abuse,

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whether it's with you know, illegal immigrants that have taken

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advantage of us. I mean, the things that the Somalies

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are doing to us, they're disgusting, you know. And you know,

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we say the Somalis because Nick Shirley's put them on

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the radars made it obvious, but there are how many

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other groups have seen this. I mean I keep saying, Mark,

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it's become a franchise, you know, because not only in Minneapolis,

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they're doing it in California and probably these other blue

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states around the country that are wide open and vulnerable

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for this kind of fraud.

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Yeah, and I don't want to pick on the Somalis,

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but I saw this in Canada thirty years ago. They

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brought large amount of Somalis into Ottawa. It's the capital

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of Canada, and there's these four buildings they're called the

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Four Holes. They are four giant buildings. Everybody is on

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welfare and they've been there for generations now. It's just

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they don't assimilate because especially in Canada, if you don't

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speak French, who can't get a job. They're not learning English,

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they're not learning French. They can't get they literally can't

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jet jobs. If you bring ten thousand people to a

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country and they literally can't get jobs because they don't

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speak French at English, they're never going to get jobs

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because they can't even if they wanted to. But you know,

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I'm not picking on some allise, but there's a serious, uh,

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you know, they don't assimilate and they don't even know.

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I was I was gonna say whatever people group comes

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into any country, if they're not interested in assimilating or

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even if that country has barriers to assimilate. I mean

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they're finding out the hard way. So what they've done

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is they finally just shut down the border and just saying, hey, look,

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we don't want you to assimilate, we don't want immigrants,

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so you know, just stay out of here. And they

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do everything they can to keep them out because they

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know it's unaffordable.

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Yeah.

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You know who works really hard when they come to

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the United States, The people from Iran, the people from Venezuela,

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and the people from Cuba. You know why they work

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so hard because they love America. They come from communism,

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Yeah right, they're audience Cubans, Venezuelan's they come to America,

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they love it. They work the air behinds off. They

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don't want social programs. They got pride that by let's

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find more people will love America and bring them to

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America for the for the American dream, like.

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Me, right, yeah, Mark, And they're the same ones that

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are looking at these young kids on these college campuses

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that are privileged to you know, have an opportunity for

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this kind of education and the goofy stuff that they're saying,

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and they just shake their heads and take They have

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no idea. You know, I've been saying for a long time.

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You know, here in Florida we have you know, summer

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or spring break, and they all come down to Miami

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and everything, and I'm going, okay, well you're almost in

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the zip code. What I want you to do is

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get off the beach, go to kaya Ocho. That's where

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all the Cubans hang out. Talk to them. That'll be

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the best. You know, four hours of education you can

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get and talking to these people and they'll tell you

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what kind of you know, what kind of thinking, what

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kind of action you know, communism and socialism will do

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to your lives.

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Right.

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Yeah, I'm pro immigrants. I'm pro immigration. I came here

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as on eli immigrant. My whole family came here as

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an illegal immigrant. We didn't take a dime, worked, we

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worked hard, We paid taxes when I did my immigration.

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By the way, when I got my green card, my

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sister had to sign that if I took any social programs,

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my sister would have to pay for them. That's how

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you bring Americans. That's how you bring people to the country.

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You make them sign a piece of paper saying that

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if they go on social programs. They're a relative who's

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here is going to have to pay those bills, right.

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So yeah, that's how you bring people to America. You

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bring people there that I want to work hard for

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the land of opportunity and the American dream.

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So well, our Vice President Jady Vance has already flagged

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something like six point three billion in government contracts going

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potentially to fraudulent businesses. And as you say, Mark, this

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is just a tip of the iceberg, isn't it.

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They're scratching the surface. We barely started this. We barely

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started this. If they if they're finding this when they

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scratch the surface, I do think there's at least a

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trillion dollars, maybe two trillion dollars in fraud, theft, and waste.

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You know.

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And they need to eliminate government pensions. I'm sorry, but

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the government pension says you get to live off every

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other taxpayer exactly the rest of your life a government pension.

476
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There's no free money, there's no free pensions. It's paid

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for by other hardworking Americans.

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Yeah, we'll look at their contracts anyway. Forget before even

479
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before you get to the pension, they've got. They got

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the deal of a lifetime Mark, You know right, they

481
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being nothing like in the private sector.

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No, it's it's crazy. They get they got a pension, pension,

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obligate pensions after five years, they get the huge match

484
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on the four one k. They got all the premium benefits.

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And I guarantee they're not working that hard.

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Yeah, yeah, we know that. Well, we got to leave

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it there. Mark Kwan is financial expert, author of the

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number one taxbook, Be Smart Pay Zero Taxes. Mark, how

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do they get in touch with you?

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I mean, we have a website that we have. By

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the way, I have my overview for the company on

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a fifteenth, So this Wednesday, have an overview. I'll be

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on YouTube. They can go to our website, the Perfect

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Portfolio dot com. I'll be teaching the Bible at Ice

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Strategy this Wednesday, Tax Day at eight pm Eastern time.

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You got it, Mark Kwan, thanks for being with us.

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Take care of my friend.

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Thanks good to see you.

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We're talking with doctor George Varne, director of research in

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Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center, author.

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Of Raising Spiritual Champions. And then, you know, speaking of

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the Old Testament, some people who look at Old Testament

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heroes like David to say, you know, here's a guy

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who kills his body to get his wife. And but

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yet God says, here's a man after my own heart.

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Commits adultery, has sex with prostitutes. I mean he, you know,

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kills people, does all kinds of things that we was

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he's disqualified, he's out of here, and and then the

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Lord comes back and gracious, graciously shows us no, no, no,

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he's a man after my own heart. And it wasn't

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because he was rape and and pillaging. It was because

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he was repenting and praying and crying and weeping over

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his own sin and recognizing who he was in the

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presence of a holy, righteous God and begging God continually,

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you know, forgive me. One of the things that that

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so struck me. There's a passage in I think it's

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Second Kings maybe where it talks about David throwing himself

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on the floor and and and you know, putting his

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arms out and crying in front of God. And you know,

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I look at that and I'm so moved by that sincerity. Right,

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it breaks my heart because I know I'm not there,

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but I got to get there.

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Exactly. We're talking with doctor George Barnet and he's giving

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us the latest details on his latest research. You know, George,

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I'll tell you what touches me as well. And I

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can relate, you know, to being throwing yourself prostate, you know,

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before a holy God and then declaring against thee and

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the only have I sinned?

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The research and I look at what people think about sin.

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It is sad and it's frightening.

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Now.

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In fact, we've got two percent of Americans who believe

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that when they die they're going to Hell. And then

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when I look at the profile of their life that

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we have through the research, I'm not God. I can't

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judge them. I don't want to judge them. God's going to.

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God knows their heart. That's what I always say, He

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knows our heart.

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So yeah, but you know, I look at the profile

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and I think if I were to guess, I would

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say a lot more than two percent are probably not

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going to wind up in God's eternal presence. And it's

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because they don't have this mindset of who God is.

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In this particular study, you know, we look at things

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like what people believe about God, and we only got

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about four out of ten Americans who believe in the

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God of the Bible that he exists, that he's holy

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and righteous, that he's just and merciful, that he still

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rules the world today, but that he still expects us

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to live within the boundaries he set for us, that

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we cannot save ourselves. We've got a majority of people

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in America who think Jesus when he was on earth,

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they'll buy the notion he was both human and divine.

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But because of that, they're saying, and therefore he was

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a sinner.

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It's like, oh, what do you think.

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I read the book again, He who was without no sin,

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bor sin, you know, and so oh gosh, there is

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so much that we've got to learn. And you know,

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here we are in this Easter seas and I'm thinking, people,

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this is the time, you know, get motivated. See him

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on the cross, see him rising from the cross, see

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him coming back to his apostles and followers and giving

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them those final words, you know, one of which is

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go make disciples, which means you've got to be the

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first one. You've got to be a disciple before you

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can make other people into disciples through the Holy Spirit.

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And so, man, what a great time of year this is.

631
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Well, this is what's happened is and this is what

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I appreciate. I appreciate about the liturgy that God has

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established because it comes up at this point, whether it's Passover,

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the Easter season or like some of us like to

635
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refer to because some times the Eastern references something pagan,

636
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:07.119
but we you know, we'll call it Resurrection Day. But again,

637
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.359
it's a reminder of just how significant this is and

638
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a time that where God is saying, look at you.

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Know.

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It's not over, George. You know I'm still cheering you on.

641
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.240
I still guess what. I want to commune with you

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the way I intended to commune with you when I

643
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first created everything and said this is very good.

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How often do we talk about America as the land

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00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:35.200
of opportunity? Yeah, you know, the greatest opportunity of all

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is to be reconciled with our Father in heaven.

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Amen.

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And realizing that I live in a country where I

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can do that. I can do it freely, I can

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do it in the open. I can talk to people

651
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.480
about that. I should talk to people about that. You

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00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.119
know what a great thing that is. And you know so,

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I mean, folks, when you go to church this Sunday

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or wherever you go to worship, God or today and

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tomorrow when you worship Him privately and personally, and you

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00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.799
should be. Don't wait for church services, you know, thank

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00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.400
Him for that freedom, Thank Him for that opportunity. It's

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00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.799
unbelievable when I travel around the world and see so

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many people in spiritual bondage, political bondage, economic bondage, and

660
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.839
then I come back here is this place perfect? Now? Wow,

661
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.880
what a great place it is to be in spite

662
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:27.599
of its faults.

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00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.039
Well, yes, exactly. I mean, it is such a gift

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that God has given us. You know, there's a new

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movie that's coming out George, and by the time people

666
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.720
will see this interview, it will have been out because

667
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:46.799
it comes out on Friday, April third, and it's the

668
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.319
story of George Whitfield and Benjamin Franklin the Great Awakening,

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the initial Great Awakening that ignited, you know, the American Revolution.

670
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.839
It is a phenomenal story put together by the folks

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00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.000
Joshua ank who's become a friend over the years involved

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with SIT and Sound. They've got two grand facilities, one

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in Pennsylvania and one in Branson, Missouri, where they do

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00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:17.400
these theatrical biblical reenactments and stories that are just beautiful.

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And this is the second movie that they ventured into,

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and uh, it's all about and I didn't realize the

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00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.840
total story of Benjamin Franklin and Whitfield and that they

678
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.599
were business partners and how they work together. And I

679
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:37.039
and as Josh and I were talking, I immediately, you know,

680
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.480
flashed back to because here, you know, Benjamin Franklin was

681
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.679
a publisher, right, he was a printer. He's printing. He's

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00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.920
got a printing press going on there in Pennsylvania and

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00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:52.000
U and he promotes Whitfield because it's good for business, right,

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00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.639
And I flashed to Randolph Hearst and Billy Graham because

685
00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.719
that's what Randolph first did with Billy Graham.

686
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I think puff Graham, yes, right, yeah, yeah, that was

687
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.239
the expression to use puff Graham. And he sent that

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00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.559
out to all his editors. Yeah that was great. And

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I don't know if people have been to the Sight

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and Sound stuff. I've actually flown back to Pennsylvania three

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times just to see their live plays. They're phenomenal. They're great.

692
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.079
I love them. And yeah, so I'm excited. I didn't

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00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:22.960
know about this, so I'm excited to hear about this.

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Well, good, well, you'll you'll enjoy it. It will bless you.

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00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:31.559
The storyline and Whitfield's commitment, I mean, his passion to

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pursue Christ Georgia, like you and I were talking about.

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You know, we get here and we try, and you

698
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:38.920
know the thing is, we do it in our own

699
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.800
human you know power, trying to you know, create our

700
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:47.159
own Babbel, you know, tower of Babel and trying to

701
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reach up to the heavens. And it's so silly. And

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00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.440
this is why we read whenever we do things like

703
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.880
that that God laughs. But you know, nonetheless, you know

704
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.880
we're knuckleheads. He still loves us in spite of that.

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And Whitfield does this and it's brought out in the

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00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.519
movie that he doesn't eat for forty days. He's a mess.

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He doesn't come out of his room. You know, they finally,

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00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.400
you know, they break into his room and get him

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out of there, and they're thinking, oh God, this place

710
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.480
smells terrible. It's awful.

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But it was his.

712
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Own human I mean, he almost died, died in the process,

713
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but you know, God loved him through it and he survived.

714
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And here he goes. I mean, he really he really

715
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got serious with God and God elevated his faith and

716
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revealed things to him that was so important that he

717
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carried out. And here he is coming to the Americas

718
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and saying wake up, O sleep or wake up right?

719
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And you know, Whitfield works so closely with John Wesley,

720
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who's one of my heroes of the faith. And so

721
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when I read their stories of what they did, and

722
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you know, today we would look at what they what

723
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.199
they went through just to speak the gospel, preach the

724
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gospel to people, and we think, wow, that's pretty extreme.

725
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.039
It's like, No, that's what we're all supposed to be doing.

726
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I mean, that's the life. That's what it's about. And

727
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:08.880
you know, so much of it goes back to what

728
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.760
do you think your purpose on life is? Right? You know,

729
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.079
it's not just to have all the goodies. I mean,

730
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.159
it's really to promote Christ. It's to get other people

731
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to live that life to where you're wedded to Jesus. Yeah,

732
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so this is going to be exciting. I'm looking at it.

733
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Well, you know when you think about that, George, you

734
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know we do that naturally anyway, right, if we saw

735
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a ballgame where if there's a movie, you know, we

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737
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Why wouldn't you share something as significant as the person

738
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We're talking with doctor George Barne, director of research at

815
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Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center, author of Raising Spiritual Champions.

816
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If You're better have that meets people outside the church

817
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.840
coming to christ having that deeper relationship. We put on

818
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a lot of great revival events. But the problem is

819
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:16.320
we need renewal within the church, the body of believers first,

820
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so that when people come to us and say, Wow,

821
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.960
this is exciting, this is interesting. I don't know what

822
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.280
to make of it. What do I do. They've got

823
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.280
to be able to look at us and see us

824
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:31.559
model the Jesus life right. And part of the issue

825
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.400
that we've got in the church right now, where when

826
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.440
I look at all this research and look at the

827
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.960
church to people alone, if I just study them, I

828
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.480
see that we're not believing in sin. We're not believing

829
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.800
there's much impact of sin on our lives. Where we're thinking.

830
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.079
And this is tens of millions of people who are

831
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.440
regularly going to Christian churches saying Jesus isn't the only way,

832
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.679
that Christianity isn't the only real true faith. You know,

833
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.360
things like this, and I'm saying, oh my gosh, Lord,

834
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.159
don't let the mission fuel come into the church. We're

835
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:04.880
not ready for it. Z.

836
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.440
You know, it'll be like nine to eleven again, Like

837
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.760
you mentioned earlier, nine to eleven came the churches. You know,

838
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.039
the doors were swung open, and it was only it

839
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.840
was it was about a three week experience.

840
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.400
George. Yeah, well, yeah, four five, six weeks, depending on

841
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:23.239
the portion of the country with types of churches. There

842
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.760
were a lot of different variables we saw. Okay, it

843
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.920
can last a little bit longer in these environments, but

844
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:33.800
it never lasts permanently. And I think it's because we

845
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:37.880
need this renewal taking place in the church so that

846
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:41.880
revival can stick. And again, I'm now the theologians are

847
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going to jump on me and say, oh, you don't

848
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.840
trust the Holy Spirit. I do trust the Holy Spirit.

849
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.960
I do trust God. God knows what he's doing. My

850
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.519
problem is, you know, he's using fallible people to do

851
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.199
some of his work here. And we've got to get

852
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.239
our act together. We've got to show now we've been revived,

853
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.599
you know, that's what that renewal is.

854
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.719
Well, and the Bible says we could look at the fruit, right,

855
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.800
you look at the tree, the fruit of the tree,

856
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.360
and is it really indicating true revival? Because when you look,

857
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:17.760
I always go to you know what happened in Nineva, George,

858
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:22.559
You know, and how critical leadership was. If the king himself,

859
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.719
I believe, had not led the way. Yes, the people

860
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:27.079
kind of started to get it and there was a

861
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.920
little bit of an organic grounds. Well, but what really

862
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.320
tipped the tables when the king got it and he's

863
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.559
tearing his clothes and he's saying, hey, set cloth for everybody,

864
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:40.599
including the animals. Right, there's something a pattern here, a model,

865
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.159
and this is not I mean, although right now you

866
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.559
can look at America and say, well, we have a

867
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.400
president in the White House who talks about God, who

868
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:57.920
exemplifies some godly principles. Again understanding he's a humanoid like

869
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.000
the rest of us. But I just kind of in anticipation.

870
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.199
If I can say this and you you're in trouble,

871
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.000
I might as well get in trouble. We'll be on

872
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:07.559
the same boat.

873
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:09.119
Come on, come on on board.

874
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.119
But as yeah, I'm happy to do it, you know,

875
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.519
because I'm used to it and I believe this is

876
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.559
what God's God has brought me into this and given

877
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.199
me this platform to do. But you have to speak

878
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.320
truth to the matter. And my prayer is is that

879
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:26.239
our leaders would see the revival and react to it

880
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.679
and rent their clothes and prostate themselves before a holy

881
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.360
God and really ignite, you know, another great awakening, as

882
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.519
Charles Finney said, you know, a revival happens when it's

883
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:38.119
most needed.

884
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:38.679
And as you.

885
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.599
Cited these blemishes that are about America right now.

886
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.400
I think we pretty much need it well. And all right,

887
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.119
so if you're trying to get in trouble, I'm gonna

888
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:50.599
one up you here, and I'm gonna I'm.

889
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.559
Gonna take that trouble and I'm gonna add to it.

890
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.440
Okay, I'm gonna have multiply it. Buddy.

891
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:56.239
Here's Bill and George one more time.

892
00:45:56.360 --> 00:46:00.920
Okay, Yeah, this man knows nothing. So you know, recently,

893
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:04.920
Franklin Graham was good enough to send a note to

894
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.480
President Trump saying, you know, I heard you talking about

895
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.199
these things, and you said, you're not sure if you're

896
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.559
going to get into heaven. Let me tell you, if

897
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:17.800
you just trust Jesus, you know, confess your sins and

898
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.800
trust Jesus, you're going to be fine, I promise you.

899
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.079
And you know he said more than that. But those

900
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.920
were some things especially in there, right, and I read that.

901
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:31.199
I love Franklin, and it's like, praise God that Franklin's

902
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:33.719
got the boldness to do that. And I mean, he

903
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:37.880
did it. I didn't sow kudos to him, but I'm

904
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:41.320
just worried that Nowhere in that message did it say

905
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:45.960
anything about repentance, and so I'm thinking, Okay, yes, we

906
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.400
want people to believe in Jesus and to trust him.

907
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.599
But part of that proof that you're making that commitment

908
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:58.559
is that you've said, okay, And the reason I have

909
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:02.800
to trust Jesus as I'm a sinner and so I

910
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.639
don't want to keep sinning. I've got to change my

911
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.239
behavior so that I don't keep sinning. That's what repentance is.

912
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.639
To I love Jesus, I'm going to trust him and

913
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.239
to prove it, I'm going to change my life. I

914
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.519
just wish some of that had been in that message

915
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:19.960
as well.

916
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.840
See, and I think what your studies indicate here is

917
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:28.400
that the culture doesn't realize how sick it is. It

918
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.000
is accommodated sin in such a way, you know, we

919
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.800
think of it in terms of a venial consequence, if

920
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.360
we can put it back in Catholic terms, but not

921
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:42.039
realizing that any sin offends God, a holy God. And

922
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.320
when we get to that position, God willing and by

923
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.559
the grace of the Holy Spirit, help the world, because

924
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.239
there would be an ignition of repentance and revival that

925
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.079
would take place that would make all the other revivals

926
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:57.519
pale and significance.

927
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.119
If I might say, I think a great test for

928
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.039
each of us to go through is to recognize that America,

929
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:11.280
spiritually speaking, has become comfortable with sin. And so a

930
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:14.079
great test for each of us is to sit down

931
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.719
in a time of reflection and meditation before God, ask

932
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.599
the Holy Spirit to enlighten each of us. Enlighten me,

933
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.400
you know, from myself. Forget the rest of the world.

934
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.559
They've got their problems. Absolutely, I'll pray for them, I'll

935
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:28.679
help them be man, I got to deal with me,

936
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.360
and Holy Spirit, please help me to see what sins

937
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.679
am I comfortable with? One? Am I letting go and say, well, yeah,

938
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.320
that's not as bad as this sin over here. And

939
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.760
I'm never going to do that. Yeah, but I'm going

940
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:43.840
to turn a blind eye to this. I'm not going

941
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.320
to talk to those people. I'm going to make them

942
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.800
feel good about the you know, what are the sins

943
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:53.079
that I am letting go of and saying, yeah, it's

944
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:56.800
not worth fighting over. We have this mentality and I

945
00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:59.280
use this phrase a lot. You got to choose your battles.

946
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:03.400
But we've got to be careful when we're talking about sin,

947
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.199
that we don't see sin that way, that there are

948
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:10.320
some sin battles that aren't worth fighting frankly, because it

949
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.360
offends God and it builds a wall of separation between

950
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:18.880
us and that Holy God. Exactly every sin is worth

951
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:20.519
fighting over, exactly.

952
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.840
You know, it reminds me this season I have been

953
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.320
highly engaged with the Hallow app, you know, one of

954
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:31.119
the fastest growing, you know, prayer apps, which says a

955
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:35.280
tremendous story the background of Alex Jones, not the Alex Jones,

956
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:39.960
the political commentator, but Alex Jones, this young man who

957
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.280
was in pursuit of God and you know, kind of

958
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:46.039
a similar story to mine, that God and his grace

959
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.760
mercy allowed us to you know, venture out and discover

960
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:53.840
other religions in search of God and philosophies and everything.

961
00:49:54.159 --> 00:50:00.000
And his background he had engagement and meditations with us,

962
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:05.840
other philosophies and that, and when he looked at Christianity

963
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:10.159
and Catholicism, he goes, we don't have that, and so

964
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.639
he created the Hollow app. And of course his family said,

965
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.000
what are you nuts? You know, this isn't gonna work,

966
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.280
But anyways, said, just a tremendous success story but one

967
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:24.559
of the recurring themes of this Lenten season has been

968
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.000
God empty me, God film me, God use me. God

969
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.159
empty me, God filmed me. God use me. God empty me,

970
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.239
God film me, God use me. Kind of what you're

971
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:36.400
saying is that you've got to pour yourself out. And

972
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:40.320
in pouring yourself out and emptying yourself, then it's taking

973
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:42.800
all that muck and mired things that we don't know,

974
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.199
those hidden sins. The Bible talks about these things that

975
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.679
we think are of no consequence. But you're asking the

976
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.440
Holy Spirit come in, empty me, purify me, get it

977
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.199
all out, and then film me with those things that

978
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.360
are right, noble and good and holy.

979
00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:01.519
Right, that's a beautiful thing. And again to be a hammer,

980
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.480
you know, seeing everything as a nail. But you know,

981
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.280
I come back to the research, and when you say that,

982
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.679
one of the things that pops into my mind is

983
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:13.199
the fact that most Americans don't believe the Holy Spirit

984
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.239
is real. We think the Holy Spirit is a symbol

985
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.599
of God's power or presence or purity, but not a

986
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:26.239
living entity that can affect our lives. And so that's

987
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.960
an important first hurdle to get over, is that we

988
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.199
allow the third person of the Trinity, that portion of

989
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:37.559
the Godhead to be real to us and to affect

990
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.119
our lives in a very significant way. When we cut

991
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.119
God off from our lives by saying that I don't

992
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.440
believe that party exists, that's a serious offense against God

993
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:50.000
right there.

994
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.599
Exactly. Yeah, So it's something that God says is the

995
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.199
most worst thing you could do of all the sins,

996
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:57.760
is blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

997
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.559
The Spirit. Yeah, you got.

998
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.159
Itactly when you think about the Holy Spirit, I always say,

999
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:04.599
you know, we have to return to our origins, to

1000
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:08.280
the beginnings and open up in Genesis one and you

1001
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.000
see the Triune God, the Holy Spirit himself hovering over

1002
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:13.719
the void and the chaos.

1003
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:14.320
Right yeah.

1004
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.599
Yeah, and you think you think his job's done now

1005
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:18.960
and that he doesn't exist.

1006
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:22.320
Yeah. And one of the great things about it is

1007
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.679
if you've got the eye for it, you can see

1008
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:29.800
the Holy Spirit all through every every chapter, every every

1009
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.960
book in the Bible. And you know, I mean, like

1010
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.639
you say, you see it in Genesis one, and you

1011
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:39.159
go all the way through to Revelation at Man, the

1012
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:40.800
Spirit's having a home coming there.

1013
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:46.559
Yeah. Well, uh, doctor George is always thank you so

1014
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:50.280
much for coming on. Uh, you know, we're united in

1015
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:56.199
prayer that we would all, starting with us, become very

1016
00:52:56.239 --> 00:53:00.000
serious about sin and that and this is a person

1017
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.519
thing that we would do with God, and that God

1018
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:08.239
would search our hearts. And because you know, whatever you

1019
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.079
want to get there, if it's you know, repentance, revival,

1020
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:13.760
it's God's will to be done. And that's what we

1021
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.039
want manifest, is God's will to be done, and that

1022
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.679
may we be agents of God's will right to promote

1023
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:20.320
it to others.

1024
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.800
Yeah, I've often told people when they say, you know,

1025
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:25.559
do you have a business card, and they say, well,

1026
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:29.920
here's the one from the organization, but my personal business

1027
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:33.199
card says George Barna, Agent of Transformation. I love it

1028
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.039
because that's what I live for, is to see that happen.

1029
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.039
Well, Doctor George Barne, director of research at Arizona Christian

1030
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.960
University's Cultural Research Center and author of Raising Spiritual Champions.

1031
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.320
The book still available at all the usual places, right,

1032
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:51.159
oddly enough, yes, not oddly come on, well, doctor George

1033
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:53.280
is always thank you so much for being with us,

1034
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.280
and ladies and gentlemen, thank you for sharing a part

1035
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:56.920
of your day with us. May God bless you and

1036
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.159
keep you. May make his face shine upon you, May

1037
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:03.000
he be gracious to you, and may you realize his piece.

1038
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.679
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1040
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timeshare maintenance fees rising every year, and I bet you

1041
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1042
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rid of their time shares don't have that kind of

1043
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free money laying around. If you don't either, call us

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1045
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1046
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used your time share this past year and you want

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a legal way to get out of it, we can

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help you get out of your time share contract right

1050
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more money back in your pocket every month. Your time

1052
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share is not free, but this call is call us

1053
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right now before time runs out.

1054
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Eight hundred two four five one three six y five,

1055
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eight hundred two four five one three six five eight

1056
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hundred two four five one three six five. That's eight

1057
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hundred two four five thirteen sixty five.

1058
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Getting America back on Track bill Martinez live.

1059
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:17.880
Well, good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour,

1060
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.440
Bill Martinez here, and we've got Grover yorquiz from ATR Hey.

1061
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.679
Grover, Good morning, Hey Bill, good to be with you.

1062
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.039
Well, good to have you here. Look at we've got

1063
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:32.039
tax Day behind us, and a lot of Americans very

1064
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:35.679
very happy with Donald Trump. You know, tax Day was

1065
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.039
I guess you might even say tax weeks leading up

1066
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.039
to it is for those that were filing early, were

1067
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:46.280
elated and doing end zone dances with the extra money

1068
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.719
that they got. And this year's you know, income tax right.

1069
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:53.159
Oh, absolutely. There were a lot of new tax cuts

1070
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:57.519
in the big beautiful bell and it did two things.

1071
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:59.480
There was going to be a four to four and

1072
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:03.440
a half trillion dollar tax increase on the American people

1073
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.480
if that bill did not pass. Because the tax cuts

1074
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:10.480
from the president's first term, many of them began to disappear,

1075
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:14.159
and they would have disappeared unless they were renewed. They

1076
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:17.639
were not. And so that four and a half trillion

1077
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:22.280
dollar every decade into the future tax increase, which every

1078
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:26.519
Democrat voted for and every Republican voted against. They voted

1079
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:30.440
to continue the Republican tax cuts and to add some

1080
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.320
other things. No tax on the first twenty five thousand

1081
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:39.079
dollars worth of tips, no tax on over time, reduction

1082
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:42.639
of tax on Social Security, a little bit more in

1083
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:47.239
the standard deduction, and the per tax credit. New opportunities

1084
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:49.840
to save money for your children if they're under eighteen.

1085
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:53.280
Every year they're under eighteen, you can put up to

1086
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:57.400
five thousand dollars in to help them save for the

1087
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.199
future and create savings for them. You've finished their young

1088
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.800
teenagers starting aged one or two, and when they're born

1089
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:09.039
for four years, one thousand dollars is put in by

1090
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:14.320
the taxpayers. Or we have the six seven trillion dollars

1091
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:19.960
that's been contributed by the Dell Computer a founding couple

1092
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:25.320
who are putting money into twenty five billion different people's accounts.

1093
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:27.519
So remember it's not just for people who are born

1094
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:31.440
yesterday or tomorrow. It's for anybody under the age of eighteen,

1095
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:34.400
anyone with children under the age of eighteen. All of

1096
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:38.639
these opportunities moving forward, some of them were new and

1097
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.320
people didn't know about them, or they thought maybe because

1098
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.159
the bill passed in July last year, that that's when

1099
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.000
it started. No tech, No, no, it started when the

1100
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.719
day that Trump became president. The Republicans tried to tell

1101
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:54.239
everybody that repeatedly, but not everybody heard it. And so

1102
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:59.639
they just withheld less money than they should have when

1103
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:01.679
they were filing their taxes earlier.

1104
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.480
Well, and that's okay, I guess, yes, none because now

1105
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.760
they've got a big windfall check and you know they

1106
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:11.559
can have maybe think about a summer vacation actually, which

1107
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:13.679
is all positive. Now, let's go back and talk about

1108
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:17.280
the Trump accounts, because I think there's some misunderstanding there

1109
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:21.800
thinking it's only for children that are born as opposed

1110
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.159
to kids up to eighteen years of age.

1111
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:27.880
Right, the accounts, it's like an individual retirement account or

1112
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:32.000
a four to one K, but for a child. If

1113
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.679
you have children under eighteen or thinking of having some,

1114
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.800
or have grandchildren, you can put Parents can put up

1115
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:42.000
to five thousand dollars into those accounts. Companies can put

1116
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:43.280
in matching amounts.

1117
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:46.719
Is that five thousand per year or five thousand, five.

1118
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:47.760
Thousand per year per year?

1119
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:47.960
Right?

1120
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.079
Okay?

1121
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:53.920
And the one thousand is the year a child is born.

1122
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.719
The US government treasurer will put in a thousand dollars

1123
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.480
per American citizen is born here in the Unitis States,

1124
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:03.960
so ex American citizens born anywhere but back to the

1125
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:04.880
American citizens.

1126
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:06.280
So but.

1127
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:11.239
Up until age eighteen, you can put money in A

1128
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.800
state could put it in an unlimited amount, an Indian

1129
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.239
tribe can put it an unlimited amount, a foundation can

1130
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:19.719
put it in an unlimited amount. Somebody could do every

1131
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:23.480
foster child in their state, and there's no limit to

1132
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.199
what you could you could put in there. This will

1133
00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:30.800
change the world because we are going to have fifteen

1134
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:34.199
and sixteen and seventeen year olds in high school comparing

1135
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:38.079
their portfolios with etiquids and going, this is what I'm

1136
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:41.840
invested in and it went up. They will see that

1137
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:46.719
good economic policies, lower taxes, less regulation make them have

1138
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:53.119
more value, more wealth as a teenager, and then bad

1139
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:56.320
policies will take it away. So when you turn eighteen

1140
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.840
that that Trump account you have will turn into an

1141
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.440
individual retirement account and you can continue it out into

1142
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:08.559
the future. But what it will do is usually when

1143
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.559
people turn eighteen, they have very little idea about how

1144
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:14.679
the economy works or why you should care about taxes

1145
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:17.559
and regulations on some business in another state. You know,

1146
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:19.920
why do I care? I'll tell you why you care

1147
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:24.199
because it affects your life savings. And we will have

1148
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:27.880
eighteen year olds beginning to vote or more sophisticated about

1149
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.000
the economy than most Democrat congressmen.

1150
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.920
And guess what that's going to do for your data ability? Yes, yes, yes,

1151
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:38.320
I'm telling you. I mean, these young girls are going

1152
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.239
to be smart enough to go hey, wait a minute

1153
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.400
before we go out, I want to see your brokerage account.

1154
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:45.519
Yeah, did you blow up? Did you blow it all

1155
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:48.159
in a car? That's not impressive, right, what do we

1156
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:48.679
got here?

1157
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.920
Yeah? Exactly, So there's more. Plus. You know, this is

1158
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.599
so brilliant on so many levels because in light of

1159
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:58.000
Social Security and what we're dealing with, you're talking about

1160
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:02.599
a generation that you know, probably Social Security could very

1161
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:04.920
well be gone by the time that they get of age.

1162
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:05.199
Right.

1163
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.079
Well, the challenge, of course, with SOB security it was

1164
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:11.760
set up the money comes in from the people who

1165
01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:13.840
are working, it goes right out the next week to

1166
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.480
people who are retiring. There is no savings at all.

1167
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.920
So all the benefit you get with a four to

1168
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:23.679
one K an individual retirement account, a defined contribution pension

1169
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:26.840
which most Americans have, where the amount of money put

1170
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.719
into your pension you put in some, your employer puts

1171
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:33.400
in some. That's your money, and it grows with the economy.

1172
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:39.760
Those are very, very important, and they give you real assets,

1173
01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.880
and they change your worldview because you understand what happens

1174
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.639
if you have with soci security, you guaranteed a certain amount.

1175
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.280
Whether the economy collapses now, whether the government can find

1176
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:55.480
that money ten twenty thirty years from now is another question.

1177
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:59.719
Because they've already they've already stolen, you know, from the account.

1178
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:04.079
It's all gone. It's all gone. There is no place

1179
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:06.440
where a bunch of cash has been saved for your

1180
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:10.880
retirement or my retirement, or anybody's retirement goes in and out.

1181
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:13.880
What we should do at some point, and we'll have

1182
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:15.760
to do at some point, is what a number of

1183
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:18.920
other countries have done. Chile did this many years ago.

1184
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.920
They simply said all new people coming into their social

1185
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:26.320
security program that you put the money into your account

1186
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:30.840
and that's yours, okay, and it won't get lost, it

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doesn't get taken away. And that is and the countries

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that do that have a lot of personal savings. Now

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we have a parallel parallel to social security, which is bankrupt.

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People have real accounts and real savings. About sixty percent

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of Americans are in the stock market directly, but it

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really needs to be one hundred percent. The only reason

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isn't one hundred percent because people are lied to about

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the nature of social Security by politicians.

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Right yeah, if if, if there's any way to extend

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I mean they're talking, Grover, I've heard twenty thirty two.

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We could be totally bankrupt with Social Security.

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Well, they won't be able to pay the bill, so

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they could pay some of what Social Security promises you.

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But here's the problem. What soci Security promises you today

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and won't be able to meet soon is a bad deal. Okay,

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What if you instead took all the money in your

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fight attaxes and put it into a four to one

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with like a million dollars in the bank over time,

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and you would live off the interest and the growth

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from that. Right now, when you retire, there's no savings

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for you. There's no chunk of money that's yours. It

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is just promised to give you a certain amount of money,

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and they can't afford to do that. So the politicians

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right expert on taxis you know, Grober, I want to

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stay on this for just a minute, because there's so

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much that the people do not understand here and the

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only way that we can possibly survive this I believe that,

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you know, government needs to take a serious haircut because

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of the money that they've misappropriated for us. I mean,

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these iou chits that are sitting there in the account

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are absolutely worthless. And so there's got to be something

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here to where people can somehow be not only incentivized,

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but given you some sort of I guess I want

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to say, a seed investment out of this account to

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where we might be able to leverage whatever is remaining

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there so that we give people a fair chance to

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strike out on their own.

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What do you think, well, the reason we will be

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able to reform social security and write that I mean,

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turn it into a real investment for your real future,

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not a welfare program, which is what it is. The

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FDI used to say it wasn't a welfare program because

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you worked, But at the end of the day, it's not.

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The government's not letting you keep your money. They're taking

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your money, giving it to somebody else, and then your

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grandchildren they'll take their money and give it to you.

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But Benjamin Franklin talked about compound interest is a very

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powerful thing, and if you work twenty thirty, forty fifty

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years in your life and retire, the amount of wealth

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that you accumulate will get all The Democrats wanted to

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tax the heck out of you for starters exactly.

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And if you're in California, then the Democrats are going

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to take the money. When you die, it won't be

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able to pass on to the next generation.

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Right.

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Yes, the Democrats are very in a very difficult position.

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They have spent so much. They're not willing to make

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any reforms. They know there's fraud and food Stamps. They

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won't reform it, they won't reduce the cost. They know

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this fraud in Medicaid and a lot of these other programs.

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Some of them that Obama created. The fraud is the point.

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That's how you pay Democratic precinct workers, that's how you

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make friends. That's how you get campaign contributions from people.

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Because a lot of money and you get a kickback.

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It's a very expensive way to raise money for a campaign.

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Yeah, but it's been very effective for them though. This

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is what they know right exactly.

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We the Democrats may have lost control of the House

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set and the presidency, but they own the cities. They

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own the cities, and that's that federal money flowing in

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that then gets used to buy friends and votes. That's

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why we have political machines and cities in order to

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keep the mayor. And this is why Chicago is completely corrupt,

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completely falling apart, still in power. They don't get voted

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out of power.

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Yeah, this is the thing that's so shocking because I

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think that, you know, I think more and more Americans

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their eyes are opening up to the reality of this.

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And there's a clear, you know, delineation between blue states

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and red states. The blue states are the ones controlled

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by the Democrats, and that have you know, developed these

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bad habits over the years, and there's no therapy, there's

1366
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no amount of therapy to bring them back. Grover, it's

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ow like in a sense, it's like we're negotiating with

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the Mulas of Iran, but they just happen to be democrats.

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I think at the end of the day, we will reform.

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They will reform themselves. The Blue states you think, so, look,

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well they will because they cannot build a Berlin Wall.

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People will leave and do leave California, leave New York

1373
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and move to red states where there's more growth. Now

1374
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we have eight states with no income tax. There are

1375
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:30.880
another twelve states that have committed, all red states committed

1376
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.239
to go to zero. So we're going to be in

1377
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a position twenty years from now where they're twenty to

1378
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:39.479
twenty five states with no personal income tax. The states

1379
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that are getting rid of the personal income tax are

1380
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.520
also getting rid of the corporate income tax because the

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corporating of tax is just a hidden tax on consumers.

1382
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It's not paid by the company, it's paid by consumers

1383
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:53.800
and workers. And is that and their right to work.

1384
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States where people the labor unions can't tax you and

1385
01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:58.399
tell you what to do and take piece of your

1386
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of your of your wages, they have better tourt laws.

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So the trial lawyers can't get rich suing you or

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suing McDonald's, and then McDonald's has to charge more for

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they spored coffee on themselves because nobody told them coffee's

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hot mission have done that. I mean, that's sort of nonsense.

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All of those things there's less of, and in some

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01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:25.279
cases none of In the red states and blue states

1394
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:31.319
have this problem. But California, Oregon, and Washington State have

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the initiative process you can, and people are putting on

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the ballot in those three very blue states measures to

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protect property taxes from going up in California, repealing tax

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increases that were passed last year in Oregon, and ending

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the income tax that the Democratic legislature in Oregon illegally

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put in that they have a ban on income tax.

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But the Supreme Court there is so left wing they

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don't care. They have no rule of law in Washington State.

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They may use that lack of rule of law to

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keep the measure off the ballot. That's possible, but if

1405
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it gets on the ballot as it's supposed to be

1406
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:12.039
able to, they will be able to fix things. In

1407
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Washington State. It's New York with no initiative process and

1408
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:20.279
a hopeless situation, they will go worse, worse, worse. You know,

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they say that people drink too much to hit bottom

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and then they decide they're going to fix things. New

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York is going to have to hit bottom.

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Yeah, well, well clearly, I mean, look what he's proposing,

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Mo'm donnie. I mean with this, and we knew this before,

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you and I talked about this, and okay, guess what

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this is coming to New York and what it's going

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to do to, you know, to the boroughs there. You're

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he's going to make it cheaper. And he needs what

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stores in that borrow. And so then then you're going

1423
01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:04.760
to have the government store going out of business. And

1424
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:07.560
then what do you got you're gonna have. You're gonna

1425
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:08.479
have a food desert.

1426
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:15.119
Right, well, people go to the zoo to see exotic

1427
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.359
animals that they don't really want to live. Next to,

1428
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:20.319
but they're willing to look at and I think there'll

1429
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:22.680
be a lot of traffic and to see what it

1430
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:28.319
looks like to have a Soviet style government run food store.

1431
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:30.880
You know the old joke in the Soviet Union is

1432
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:33.079
the guy goes in and he says, is this the

1433
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:35.159
story that doesn't have meat? And they say, no, we're

1434
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:37.920
the store that doesn't have fish, the store that doesn't

1435
01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:41.920
have meats across the street. This will be a laughing

1436
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.159
stock both how much unless they really hide how much

1437
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:46.960
money they're putting in, but they've kind of announced out

1438
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:49.760
loud how much they're planning on stealing from taxpayers. There's

1439
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.399
a Costco next store by the way. It's not like

1440
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:57.239
there's a food desert and nobody's nod's selling you food there.

1441
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.520
But other people up there are tweeting saying, for that

1442
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:05.960
much money, I could start five for you with competitive pricing.

1443
01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:11.720
We'll be able to watch in real time. Liberal democrats

1444
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:15.680
socialists explained, here's how socialism works. And then you can

1445
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:19.560
go walk through the Costco, walk through the government foodstore.

1446
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:23.680
Which one do you want to live in? Yeah, how

1447
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:26.880
badly it's doing with subsidies. But that won't go for long.

1448
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:30.000
Yeah, exactly. Well, plus on top of that, like you said,

1449
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.199
you know, it would be okay if you went to

1450
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:35.359
New York and they were behind bars and you were protected.

1451
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:40.920
But the other ramifications with the Mamdanie socialist idea is

1452
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.079
there's going to be less police officers. I mean, you've

1453
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:46.199
already got all kinds of danger lurking in New York

1454
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:49.319
as it is, and you know what's it going to

1455
01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:51.880
be like in another two three years?

1456
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:55.479
Grover, Well, muggers need breakfast food also, so I guess

1457
01:16:55.520 --> 01:17:00.520
so stories stuff. You can go to the free food

1458
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:06.159
place or something subsidized food place. It is getting starker

1459
01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:09.680
and starker. What works and what doesn't work? You're seeing

1460
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:14.600
Mississippi decided to be serious about education. They moved to

1461
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:19.079
teaching kids phonics rather than look, say that hasn't worked,

1462
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:21.520
and they moved from being bottom of the pack up

1463
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:28.960
to the top ten to fifteen percent of the states

1464
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.479
in terms of getting kids to read. I mean, these

1465
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:36.600
are states making huge jumps in education keeping costs down.

1466
01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:40.520
There's a study recently if Britain became the fifty first state,

1467
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:45.319
it would be the fifty first poorest state after Mississippi

1468
01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:48.800
to give you some idea of how far the United

1469
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:51.880
States is moving away from Europe, because, as you're pointing

1470
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:54.840
out the value of federalism in the United States, states

1471
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:57.800
can compete. They don't have federalism in Europe. They have

1472
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:00.800
top down everything. You joined the European Union, they tell

1473
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.920
you what to do. Hungary, Poland, so on. If they

1474
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:06.640
had competition then because Poland's doing much better than some

1475
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:08.760
of the other states, but it's limited to what you

1476
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:09.479
can control.

1477
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:10.680
Yeah.

1478
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:13.840
Well, as we wrap things up here, Grover, again, we're

1479
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:18.199
excited about you know, the Trump accounts. That's great news

1480
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:20.760
that you know, kids up to eighteen you can open

1481
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:23.359
up an account for them too. I think that's a

1482
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:27.720
terrific opportunity for these young people that are going to have,

1483
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:31.560
you know, a financial IQ that is going to be

1484
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:33.479
beyond the numbers that you and I had when we

1485
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:34.199
were growing up.

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01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:37.960
Right, Yep, absolutely, I think should be very interesting, be fun.

1487
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:41.000
Yeah, not to mention it's going to be an incentive

1488
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:44.720
for businesses to keep good workers and watch how that

1489
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:47.560
dynamic works out well, because that's going to be an

1490
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:52.000
advantage for those companies like Dell and others that realize

1491
01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:54.159
that employee retention is critical.

1492
01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:58.560
Right absolutely. About fifty businesses have announced they're going to

1493
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:02.840
be supporting these efforts that Trump accounts with their employees.

1494
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:06.399
Well, that's awesome. He's the president of Americans for Tax Reform.

1495
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:09.960
America's preaminterve center right expert on taxes, Grover norquizt Grover.

1496
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The website they can go to to be in the.

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Know, it's Americans for Tax reformatr dot org.

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Patriots, well welcome Back Bill martinez here along With Jordan.

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Goodman he's got the, answers we got. Questions, hey Welcome.

1563
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Jordan good to.

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Have you with.

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Us great to be with you as.

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Always, well, Well Jordan, goodman he's got his eye on

1567
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the straight of hormones because it seems that just seems

1568
01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:08.079
to be the fulcrum right.

1569
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:10.640
Now right, well it, is and things could go either.

1570
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:13.479
Direction i'll give you the optimistic scenario. First how about?

1571
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:19.319
That okayistic, scenario is our blockade. Works we're Draining iran of.

1572
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:21.920
Money they're only sources of revenue really is, oil and

1573
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:22.560
we're cutting that.

1574
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:24.199
Off so they're kind of what.

1575
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:26.199
Are they what are they losing a? Day how many?

1576
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:29.600
Million four four hundred million dollars a day something like. That,

1577
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:35.079
Yeah and so that's being cut. Off their infrastructure is

1578
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:38.239
just could be, crumbling and we don't even have to

1579
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:41.640
start the war again after the ceasefire is, over because

1580
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.039
they'll just, collapse not having any. Finances the people will

1581
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:49.680
rise up against, them the regime will, fall we'll bring

1582
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:51.960
in A jefferson in democracy and it'll all be, good

1583
01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:53.159
and that'll be very pro Pro.

1584
01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:55.399
Western that's the positive.

1585
01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:58.800
One, boy that's very. OPTIMISTIC i don't see THE irgc

1586
01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:01.640
dropping their. Weapons is there the local law enforcement that

1587
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:04.600
has just been murdering people in the streets.

1588
01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:08.399
Of a Welcome maybe at a certain point they'll, say,

1589
01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:10.920
well we don't really want to be of course They

1590
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:13.520
if that, happens the people will overwhelm them and kill

1591
01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:16.039
them all because they've been so brutal for so it

1592
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:19.000
kind of what happened In, syria remember after a son,

1593
01:24:19.079 --> 01:24:20.359
fellow a little revenge.

1594
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:21.560
There so that's the optimistic.

1595
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:23.640
Scenario, yeah, well they need to get the handsome on

1596
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:25.960
some guns AND ammo if they're going to do that a,

1597
01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:27.840
lot right.

1598
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.840
Exactly that's the Optimist Now i'm going to do the pessimistic, scenario,

1599
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:34.239
okay which is That iran says they're not going to

1600
01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:38.680
take this they're going to shoot small boats and missiles

1601
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:42.279
and drones at our ships that are doing the. Blockade

1602
01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:46.479
any container vessel or tanker that goes, through they're going

1603
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:49.960
to blow it to. Smithereens we will then, retaliate and

1604
01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:53.279
then it's an all out war Where iran puts all

1605
01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:57.000
of its ballistic missiles and drones not only At israel

1606
01:24:57.079 --> 01:25:00.960
but all The Gulf, states wipes out there oil. Facilities

1607
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:04.199
we take big, losses we bomb back at, them and

1608
01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:09.199
it escalates, dramatically and the regime does not fall and

1609
01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:12.680
the people do not rise up. There so that's WHAT

1610
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:15.600
i would say is the pessimistics. There at that, point oil.

1611
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.159
Is the worst. CASE i, mean when you go, pessimistic

1612
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:20.840
you go full blown. Pessimistic, well at that.

1613
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:22.920
POINT i think oil goes to one hundred and fifty

1614
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:26.079
to two hundred dollars a, barrel that creates a worldwide.

1615
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.079
Recession it's already slowing the economy a lot that oils

1616
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:31.159
over about one hundred dollars a, barrel but if it

1617
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:33.760
goes to that, level it just becomes unaffordable and.

1618
01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:36.399
Unavailable it's not only price, built but it's.

1619
01:25:36.439 --> 01:25:42.000
Availability there are shortages Throughout asia now they're having rationing

1620
01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.279
that planes aren gonna be able to. Fly you, know

1621
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:49.000
it's a shortage as, Well so we could go either.

1622
01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:52.640
Way how about, That well that's a big, swing because

1623
01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:56.239
that would be assuming that after you, know they got

1624
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:59.680
the hell bomb out of, them that they would have

1625
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:04.359
enough resources to continue any kind of military action or

1626
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:07.199
nuisance action. ANYWAY i, mean right, NOW i mean it's

1627
01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:10.119
almost like they're they're playing there this last, card their

1628
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:13.960
last card with you think they still have.

1629
01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:18.000
More their cards are, underground, okay pretty much wiped out

1630
01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:23.439
what's above, Ground but they have ten missile cities that

1631
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:28.880
have been built over decades, underground filled with thousands of ballistic, missiles,

1632
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:34.479
drones high speed hypersonic missiles as well that can evade.

1633
01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:36.520
Detection and you.

1634
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:40.439
Know despite our radar and the anti missile, systems in,

1635
01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:44.439
fact some missiles have been getting through To, israel To american,

1636
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:47.199
Bases saudi you, know all kinds of. Things, so, no

1637
01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:50.600
they have plenty of cards to, play and for, them it's.

1638
01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:54.439
Existential they might as well go down fighting and throwing Out.

1639
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:56.600
That's What that's what death cults, do is they go down.

1640
01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:58.840
Fighting that's WHY i Say i'm Not i'm not one

1641
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:00.680
to believe to think that they're going to drop their

1642
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:04.520
weapons and SAY i. Surrender but the other thing THAT

1643
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:10.079
i have in mind is between THE cia And israel

1644
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:13.600
at these underground missile cities that they have here and

1645
01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:18.079
tell me they don't have THEM. Gps they probably know

1646
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:19.319
where they, are but they can't get to.

1647
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:21.359
Them at least they haven't gotten to them. Yet so

1648
01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:24.520
what they do is they wheel or truck the missiles

1649
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:27.239
out or the drones shoot them and then go. Back

1650
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:30.840
they're not out there sitting to be bombed By american

1651
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:31.600
Or israeli.

1652
01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:33.720
Jets and it's very.

1653
01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:36.399
Effective and they have these missiles WHICH i don't think

1654
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:40.560
The iranians. DEVELOPED i think The, chinese The North, koreans

1655
01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:45.359
The russians have helped them with super high. Technology so

1656
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:50.039
Called fatatu missile for, example is literally. Hypersonic it goes

1657
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:54.880
at fifteen times that mark. Fifteen our defense is designed

1658
01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:58.359
for Five mark, five, okay so it goes, faster and

1659
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:01.319
it has multiple warrants so when it comes, down it's

1660
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:01.640
not just.

1661
01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:04.439
One it goes on to maybe fifth night or exactly

1662
01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:05.039
all over the.

1663
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:08.600
Place this is highly sophisticated AND i don't think they

1664
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:10.239
could have developed it on their, own but they've gotten

1665
01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:13.640
they've in fact deployed some of, those and that's Hit,

1666
01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:18.119
israel it's hit some of THE us bases so. WELL i, mean,

1667
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:23.760
OFFHAND i would say the, negative the pessimistic scenario is more.

1668
01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:26.560
LIKELY i agree with. YOU i don't think THE rg, sees,

1669
01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:28.239
sorry we didn't mean any of.

1670
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:31.039
It we're going to you, know turn the whole thing,

1671
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:34.520
over and we want On jefferson in, DEMOCRACIES i don't

1672
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:36.399
think they're going to do that after fifty years of.

1673
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:40.199
Terror, yeah. Exactly, Now i'm with you on. IT i

1674
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.600
think it's a fight to the. Finish AND i know

1675
01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:44.840
some people are nervous, about you, know boots on the,

1676
01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:48.159
ground boots on the, well look at it's the only

1677
01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:51.560
way you can, upend you, know because it always comes.

1678
01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:55.439
Down war comes down to where it becomes a ground.

1679
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:59.319
War and there's only so much that you can do

1680
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:02.520
from the, air and you, know even from the, seas

1681
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:05.960
sending In tomahawks and that sort of. Thing you've got

1682
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:06.239
to get.

1683
01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:09.319
Down AND i don't think The american public is in

1684
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:10.399
favor of a ground, war.

1685
01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:12.640
And around no, question not in. Favor but look At

1686
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:16.239
i'll tell you what a war, dictates what how it's

1687
01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:18.439
going to be played. Out and as they always, say

1688
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:22.760
the enemy has a say in. This and so you,

1689
01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:25.279
know if your goal is to win the, war then

1690
01:29:25.319 --> 01:29:27.159
you have to win the. WAR i know That trump

1691
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:30.199
AND i know That hegseth are real careful about talking

1692
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:32.239
about boots on the. Ground but you've got to be.

1693
01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:35.279
REALISTIC i, Mean i've been around this stuff long, enough

1694
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:38.560
and and being in the military and that sort of.

1695
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:41.680
THING i, understand you, Know and this has been the

1696
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:44.800
Problem america has had is they've gone into war thinking

1697
01:29:44.840 --> 01:29:48.479
that somehow they can, control you, know control. Things, well

1698
01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:50.840
we haven't been able to control things Since World War.

1699
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:53.159
Two, NO i, mean look what did it.

1700
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:54.199
Take, yeah it.

1701
01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:58.520
Iracked we were there for ten, years the longer, Right Afghanistan,

1702
01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:00.319
Radmar afghanist twenty.

1703
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:01.319
Years there's a complete.

1704
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:05.399
Flagmar we pretty much lost both of, those despite having overwhelming,

1705
01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:09.800
firepower the terrain and the people and the gorilla tactics

1706
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.159
and so. ON i really don't think The american people

1707
01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:14.640
will stand for a third war like. That it goes

1708
01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:15.880
on for a long. TIME i don't think it's going

1709
01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:17.960
to be. QUICK i hope it would. BE i think

1710
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.479
maybe that The marines could take Carg island or something

1711
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:24.479
limited like, that but it's not stopping The iranian's ability

1712
01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:27.680
to disrupt traffic in the straight up. Homoves that's the

1713
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:32.600
central situation right. Now if they can stop, traffic which they.

1714
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:36.399
Can now you have this competing situation where The ranians

1715
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:39.600
say they want to get two million dollars per ship

1716
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:42.000
that goes through in toll OR i would call.

1717
01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:43.520
TRIBUTE i guess you might.

1718
01:30:43.439 --> 01:30:46.840
Say, okay or troll, yes, okay, Yeah.

1719
01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:49.720
And we say anybody who pays a, toll we're going

1720
01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:52.560
to blow them out of the. Water so these four ship,

1721
01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:55.199
captains they've been sitting there in the water since the

1722
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:58.479
end Of february with no, food no, water no, nothing

1723
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:01.960
stuck able to do, anything and they don't know if

1724
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:02.520
they should go or.

1725
01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:08.159
Not the insurance company, says don't, go raise insurance, dramatically.

1726
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:11.359
Dramatically SO i don't think anybody's going to move until

1727
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:12.000
this is a clearer.

1728
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:16.640
Situation Right, well we can only, HOPE i guess at this,

1729
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:20.039
point because like you, said it could go you, know

1730
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:23.920
from one end of the. Other and but you, KNOW

1731
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:28.279
i definitely like the cards That america has right, NOW

1732
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:29.920
i think they're holding better.

1733
01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:32.680
Cards we have, cards but they have cards, too which

1734
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:33.880
not as though they have no. Cards.

1735
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:38.439
Okay at the negotiation With vance and The, iranians you

1736
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:41.640
know they both went in thinking they were. Stronger The iranians.

1737
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:46.920
Said The iranians game is to create enough economic and

1738
01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:50.920
political pressure on The west to basically give up and

1739
01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:53.920
say oil prices going to one hundred and fifty dollars

1740
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:57.319
and it's unavailable and you have a complete energy shock

1741
01:31:57.399 --> 01:32:02.520
and people can't fly, airplanes tristity grids shut, down h

1742
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:06.640
inflation sores, up and the political heat is too much to,

1743
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:09.640
say all, right it's not worth. It that's that's The arabians.

1744
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:13.560
Game they know they can't win militarily directly.

1745
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:15.520
Well and this is what's, frustrating because it seems like

1746
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:18.359
that our mainstream media is playing into their hands and

1747
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:20.640
supporting their. Cause i'll just leave it there for right.

1748
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:24.439
Now but, uh look at Tax day as we're recording,

1749
01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:27.319
this a lot of people happy campers with the kind

1750
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:28.039
of money they're getting.

1751
01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:28.319
Back.

1752
01:32:29.880 --> 01:32:32.600
Yeah, right and, yeah we had our lady deliver the

1753
01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:34.000
McDonald's to the.

1754
01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:37.560
Overall grandma dash. Story LADY i love.

1755
01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:41.199
It, yeah the Dash grandma or something like.

1756
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:43.239
That, yeah, yeah. Exactly, yes it's.

1757
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:45.680
Probably the first time we've had a delivery directly to

1758
01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:48.359
The oval. Office that would be one of our new. Firsts, yes,

1759
01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:51.600
well lad To Donald. Trump, yeah it has helped a

1760
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:55.079
lot of people not to have taxes on tips and such,

1761
01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:57.560
security and over time it's put more money in people's.

1762
01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:01.279
Pockets now the deficit is worse because of star security

1763
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.359
is in worse, shape but the immediate right now is

1764
01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:06.600
definitely putting more money in people's. Pockets so that's, correct

1765
01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:09.279
which they need just to pay the gas. Bills it's

1766
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:13.199
not only gas that's causing insurance causing prices to go. Up,

1767
01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:16.800
insurance for, Example, look it's happening to home insurance and

1768
01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:20.520
car insurance dramatically higher in many cases not even available

1769
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:24.119
because of hurricanes and car accidents and so. On so

1770
01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:28.079
there are other sources of inflation beyond. Gas and so,

1771
01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:28.840
yes got.

1772
01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:31.399
It this is why we. Need we need the golden

1773
01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:34.920
age That trump is projecting for us and get on

1774
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:38.199
top of. This and right Now iran is a bit

1775
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:40.520
of a hurdle to get on the other. Side we

1776
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:43.399
resolve that. Issue jordan AND i think we.

1777
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:44.600
Started looking at optimistic.

1778
01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.039
Scenario when we have a New sordian democracy AND i,

1779
01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:50.840
ran everybody's, happy there's no more. Threat oil prices will

1780
01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:53.560
plunge to fifty dollars a barrow and hauls.

1781
01:33:53.239 --> 01:33:53.680
Good with the.

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01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:59.359
World, hey that's a happy note to end. On where

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can people get in touch with?

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That, well you should it's a, compliment my dear. Friend,

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it and more THAN i, mean we're now more than

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conquers like never. Before and may we all realize, that you,

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know the grave is empty And jesus didn't go to

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the cross and rise from the dead for.

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01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:40.600
Nothing, right that's exactly.

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Right and as you AND i often talk, About i'm

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reminded of the passage From lamentations. Three you, know his

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mercies are new every, morning and so in a, way

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even though this may sound, corny every morning Is easter. Morning, yes,

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right every day is a day that we have a

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chance to embrace the invitation That jesus offers, us to

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be in relationship with, him to receive what The Holy

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spirit has for us, relationally, vocationally, spiritually.

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And to live a life of.

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Abundance you, know In john ten Ten jesus contrasts two different.

1882
01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:24.680
Ways he, said the.

1883
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:27.560
Thief comes only to, steal kill and. Destroy BUT i

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01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:31.199
have come that you might, have you, know abundant life

1885
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:34.359
or life to the. Full you, know there's different ways

1886
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:37.279
of translating. It BUT i think all of, Us, bill

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01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:42.279
we are looking for abundant, life whether we realize it or,

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01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:46.439
not that's what everybody is hungry. For Only jesus offers,

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01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:52.720
it and what the world offers is a, counterfeit, right

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01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:56.640
and that's what the enemy is constantly selling in so

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01:39:56.720 --> 01:39:57.239
many different.

1892
01:39:57.279 --> 01:40:01.319
Ways, well the challenge we have in this current world

1893
01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:07.680
environment is that it comes with you, know good and. Evil,

1894
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:13.079
Yeah and so the challenge is is that in the

1895
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:15.800
midst of, evil can you still live the abundant? Life

1896
01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:20.359
can you still maintain? Peace and also what does the

1897
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:23.680
abundant life mean to? You does it mean that you

1898
01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:26.000
don't have to pick up your? Cross does it mean

1899
01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:28.520
that it's all going to be a rose garden and hunky? Dory?

1900
01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:32.560
Right, no that's, right because we have to be careful

1901
01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:39.159
not to automatically or unconsciously define the abundant life in

1902
01:40:39.359 --> 01:40:45.960
Secular american, terms you, know which is comfort. Materialism you,

1903
01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.359
know when you Take god out of the, picture The

1904
01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:53.439
american dream becomes kind of self, focused you. Know and

1905
01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:57.680
actually It's god's inclusion in the picture that allows us

1906
01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:03.000
to live in an amazing place and an amazing. Time but

1907
01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:06.079
we're not doing it just for, ourselves, Right AND i

1908
01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:09.760
think the other thing is that that The gospel is

1909
01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:13.359
also the only thing that gives us a rudder to

1910
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:16.960
chart the crazy news and sees that we are sailing.

1911
01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:20.560
Through you, know my nineteen year old, son we have

1912
01:41:20.760 --> 01:41:25.920
regular conversations about all of the crazy things he reads

1913
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:31.640
on the, internet, Right And i'm constantly sort of having this.

1914
01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:38.880
Dialogue with him about conspiracy theory, stuff, frankly and he's been,

1915
01:41:39.640 --> 01:41:41.119
really really really.

1916
01:41:41.720 --> 01:41:45.760
Wrapped around the axel hard over The epstein stuff and

1917
01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:48.640
really sees that as the lens through which everything else

1918
01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:51.560
in our, culture you, know should be. Viewed you, know

1919
01:41:51.640 --> 01:41:56.319
it's all an, elaborate you, know conspiracy to distract us

1920
01:41:56.319 --> 01:41:59.800
from whatever was in those. Files now without weighing in on,

1921
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:04.279
that whether it's, true, false or somewhere in. Between my

1922
01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:08.359
continual conversation with him Is, OKAY i don't know the

1923
01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:10.920
answers to some of those. QUESTIONS i suspect there are

1924
01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:13.319
things happening behind the scenes that are.

1925
01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:16.119
Unsavory that has always been, true.

1926
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.279
Right there have always been people grasping for. Power there

1927
01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:22.960
have always been skeletons in the. Closet there have always

1928
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.399
been people who take advantage of their power to do wicked.

1929
01:42:26.439 --> 01:42:30.640
Things that has been true from the get, go and

1930
01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:33.359
what's our. Job you, know our job is to focus

1931
01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:35.359
on what's true and to not let.

1932
01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:37.880
That derail us into.

1933
01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:41.279
Cynicism and that's WHAT i see with him is just

1934
01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:43.960
there's this cynicism about the world.

1935
01:42:43.960 --> 01:42:45.520
Because he doesn't believe anything he.

1936
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:48.840
Sees and, so you, know on one hand that critical thinking is,

1937
01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:51.199
good you, know don't just take it all at face.

1938
01:42:51.319 --> 01:42:53.199
Value but we don't want to go so far the

1939
01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:56.359
other direction that we don't have, hope we don't have

1940
01:42:56.439 --> 01:42:59.159
a reason, to you, know, Say, okay we have a

1941
01:42:59.199 --> 01:43:02.439
gospel that trains and sends all of the headlines in

1942
01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:04.239
the news, today and that's what we're cling.

1943
01:43:04.359 --> 01:43:04.399
To.

1944
01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:08.560
Well in today's gospel from The book Of, john reminds

1945
01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:13.560
us that you, know we are not to embrace the

1946
01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:16.920
things of this, world right because exactly what. Happens the

1947
01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:18.560
things of this world want to hold us. Down you

1948
01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:21.119
AND i talked about, THIS i think last. Month And

1949
01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:24.199
god's elevating us Because jesus is at the right hand

1950
01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:26.600
of The, father right, Right, no that's sitting in the

1951
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:30.279
heavenly and according to The book Of, ephesians that's that's

1952
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:33.600
that's where we're to be, seated didn't they? Right, right that's,

1953
01:43:33.640 --> 01:43:37.239
right and so you have that pulled. Down, Well god's

1954
01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:40.600
trying to elevate you. Up AND i can, appreciate you,

1955
01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:43.880
know what your son is analyzing and how this is,

1956
01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:46.800
happening and how this may cause some brain damage and brain.

1957
01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:49.199
BRUISING i get. That you, know we've all been there

1958
01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:52.119
and gone through that. Exercise but my encouragement to him is,

1959
01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:55.000
say look at what that should remind you of is

1960
01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:57.399
why we need to be on the lookout for the

1961
01:43:57.439 --> 01:44:01.479
second coming Of, christ because he is ultimately the. Answer

1962
01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:06.119
man does not have the capacity because man is of this, earth,

1963
01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:11.720
right and their perspective and resolution and solutions will be earth,

1964
01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:12.760
based not heavenly.

1965
01:44:12.800 --> 01:44:14.920
Based, no that's Exactly that's all exactly.

1966
01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:19.000
Right and only as we do a couple of, things

1967
01:44:19.039 --> 01:44:22.359
as we spend time in The, word as we, pray

1968
01:44:23.239 --> 01:44:25.840
as we put our phones down and we just let the.

1969
01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:28.960
Noise sort of slowly sift.

1970
01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:32.800
To the, bottom and as we are with other people

1971
01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:34.399
who share that.

1972
01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:35.199
Perspective.

1973
01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:39.119
Right the community component is so important. Here it's not

1974
01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:42.800
about being a lone, ranger you, know in, community in

1975
01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:46.920
relationship with The Holy, spirit and in The, word we

1976
01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:52.720
experience The gospel and real time in our, relationships right and,

1977
01:44:54.279 --> 01:44:58.439
man there's a lot to be discouraged and cynical. ABOUT

1978
01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:00.880
i get, It AND i think part of it's just growing.

1979
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.600
Up LIKE i think a lot of a lot of

1980
01:45:03.640 --> 01:45:07.159
the you, know process of moving towards adulthood is a

1981
01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:10.560
disillusionment with, oh this isn't the WAY i thought it,

1982
01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:12.680
was and then you fight through. That but you got

1983
01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:14.159
to get to a point of hope on the other,

1984
01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:15.079
side you, know.

1985
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.359
Well and you've got to know that there is hope

1986
01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:19.880
on the other side, exactly that it's not a lost

1987
01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:22.560
cause that, yes you, know why do you think this is?

1988
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:26.640
Happening why do you think that your perspective is focusing on?

1989
01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:29.640
This what is the lesson to be? Learned is the

1990
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:33.119
is the? Opportunity you know? QUESTION i. Believe and it's

1991
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:36.159
tough when you're you, know eighteen nineteen and you've got

1992
01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:38.920
all kinds of worldly you, know distractions and all that

1993
01:45:39.039 --> 01:45:41.960
kind of. Deal but the fact that he's even asking these,

1994
01:45:42.039 --> 01:45:44.920
questions that's even from, Well god bless. You you, know

1995
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:47.399
you have the proposition.

1996
01:45:46.880 --> 01:45:49.520
Here, Right, no and we just you, know we just

1997
01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:53.600
talk and we also talk a lot About Okham's. Razor you,

1998
01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:57.680
know oh, yeah That Okham's razor basically, says sometimes the

1999
01:45:57.720 --> 01:46:01.319
most obvious answer or explanation is probably the one that's,

2000
01:46:01.399 --> 01:46:04.880
true as opposed, to you, know the deep dive down

2001
01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:06.079
the conspiracy rabbit.

2002
01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:08.159
Hole and OBVIOUSLY i.

2003
01:46:08.199 --> 01:46:10.479
Work for plugged in and one of the things we

2004
01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:15.079
talk about regularly is the influence of social media on

2005
01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:17.880
the minds and hearts of young. People and that influence

2006
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:19.880
works in a lot of different, ways and this is

2007
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:21.720
just one of. Them and so we've got to teach

2008
01:46:21.720 --> 01:46:23.439
our kids critical thinking and just.

2009
01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:25.520
Without a, doubt there has to be a truth. Filter

2010
01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:28.960
if you don't have a truth, filter you're gonna be in.

2011
01:46:29.159 --> 01:46:31.680
Trouble you're like a cork in the, ocean, Man you're

2012
01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:35.159
bobbing all over the. Place exactly, Right, yeah that's exactly. Right,

2013
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:36.960
well you've got a couple of movies to talk, about

2014
01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:37.399
should we?

2015
01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:42.720
Do, Okay, yeah let's start with one that may have

2016
01:46:42.800 --> 01:46:45.720
a little bit more superficial appeal but definitely has more.

2017
01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:46.680
Problems it's Called.

2018
01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:50.359
Outcome it is On APPLE Tv, plus and it Stars

2019
01:46:50.439 --> 01:46:55.439
Keanu reeves as a struggling actor Named Reef, hawk and

2020
01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:58.600
actually he's not really. Struggling he's sort of, like in

2021
01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:04.319
this fictionalized take On, hollywood he's the most successful actor

2022
01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:07.800
of his generation and he's, beloved but he has been

2023
01:47:07.840 --> 01:47:12.439
battling a secret heroin addiction and somebody has a video

2024
01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:16.319
that they are about to release of him if he,

2025
01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:18.560
doesn't you, know do what they want him to. Do,

2026
01:47:19.079 --> 01:47:23.279
so but he's not sure who is actually blackmailing, him

2027
01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:25.560
and so he's trying to go back and connect with

2028
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:28.880
everybody he ever knew and be nice to people to

2029
01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:32.920
try to figure out who, is you, know trying to

2030
01:47:33.079 --> 01:47:34.279
drop this bomb on his.

2031
01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:38.359
Life it's it's directed By Jonah.

2032
01:47:38.399 --> 01:47:41.000
Hill jonah is a comedic actor who's been around a

2033
01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:43.880
long time at this, point and this is one of

2034
01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:47.199
those films that has SOME i think pertinent things to.

2035
01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:51.720
Say About hollywood. Culture but unfortunately IT'S r.

2036
01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:55.079
Rated it's drenched in, profanity and there's a lot of

2037
01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:57.199
really vulgar talk, too.

2038
01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:57.199
And so.

2039
01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:01.760
It's one of those movies and it's, like did they

2040
01:48:01.800 --> 01:48:05.960
have to make it as edgy as it? Is and

2041
01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:07.960
they might come back and, say, well you, know there's

2042
01:48:07.960 --> 01:48:10.920
no explicit sex, scenes so it should, be you, know

2043
01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:14.279
something everybody could watch but definitely not a film for

2044
01:48:14.319 --> 01:48:16.720
the whole. FAMILY i would encourage you to read our

2045
01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:19.560
full review if that sounds, interesting because there's there's a

2046
01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:21.800
lot of profanity, here and we live in such a

2047
01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:23.880
profane world THAT i FIND i don't want to be

2048
01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:24.920
assaulted by it in my.

2049
01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:28.039
Entertainment well, Exactly AND i don't blame. YOU i, mean

2050
01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:32.359
who wants, to you, know swim through the cesspool of,

2051
01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:34.479
vulgarity right exactly.

2052
01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:35.760
Exactly, Yeah so.

2053
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:37.079
That's not a whole lot of.

2054
01:48:37.079 --> 01:48:39.840
Fun and the other one is not a cesspool of.

2055
01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:42.319
Vulgarity it's a cesspool of, well it's not a cess

2056
01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:44.640
pool at. All it's just and now for something completely,

2057
01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:48.479
different it is The Panda plan to The Magical. Tribe

2058
01:48:48.920 --> 01:48:51.199
this is A Jackie chan. Movie but we may forget

2059
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:54.399
That Jackie chan made movies In china for a long

2060
01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:57.600
time before he was ever on the scene in The United.

2061
01:48:57.600 --> 01:48:59.880
States he had a career that was.

2062
01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:02.239
Decades old by the time he began to pat to

2063
01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:03.319
really pop up over.

2064
01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:05.399
Here this is A chinese.

2065
01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:09.359
Movie it is In, mandarin and it has, subtitles and

2066
01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:13.319
It's Jackie chan having an adventure with a little panda

2067
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:17.399
named who who they are traveling through the, forest they

2068
01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:21.159
end up finding an indigenous people who have a prophecy

2069
01:49:21.239 --> 01:49:25.560
about who who saving them from the. APOCALYPSE i, mean

2070
01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:30.159
think sort of like every kid's movie you ever, saw

2071
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:33.279
with a dose Of chinese spirituality and a little bit

2072
01:49:33.319 --> 01:49:35.000
Of raiders of The Lost arc and you'll be in

2073
01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:37.920
the right neck of the woods, here a lot of

2074
01:49:37.960 --> 01:49:42.159
spiritual stuff to wade. Through a few other mild content.

2075
01:49:42.279 --> 01:49:45.800
Bumps there's just a touch of profanity that we see spelled.

2076
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:49.079
Out there's a couple of characters who drink quite a.

2077
01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:53.359
Bit but it's a pretty lighthearted film that emphasizes the

2078
01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:56.800
importance of expressing love to your family and the importance of.

2079
01:49:56.880 --> 01:50:00.000
Community AND i think it's interesting.

2080
01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:02.279
That we know we're in this place where we're now

2081
01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:05.760
Getting chinese movies that are getting you, know wide release

2082
01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:08.800
in The United. States interesting and it also speaks TO

2083
01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:13.319
i Think hollywood's just out of. Ideas you, know it's

2084
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:18.000
pretty bankrupt right. Now so you, know your appetite for

2085
01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:21.840
sitting through a movie with subtitles might be such that

2086
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.000
that's not particularly interesting to. You but if you just

2087
01:50:25.039 --> 01:50:27.359
want to Watch Jackie chan New Martial arts and do

2088
01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:30.159
it with you, know a little digital. Panda it's Like

2089
01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:32.800
Kung Fu, panda only you, know more.

2090
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:34.119
REALISTIC i guess.

2091
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:37.239
Well we got to leave it there and call it a. Wrap,

2092
01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:39.720
There Adam, holtz you can tell everybody how they can

2093
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:40.920
be in. Touch, yeah you.

2094
01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:44.319
Can come to plugged in dot com, movies, MUSIC, tv video, games,

2095
01:50:44.359 --> 01:50:48.279
technology YouTube, channels, tutorials and we of course our ministry

2096
01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:48.880
of focus on the.

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eight hundred seven oh five six y five eight. One

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that's eight hundred seven oh five sixty five eighty one