April 16, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 04 16 26

The Bill Martinez Show 04 16 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 04 16 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez, Well, good morning America. Six minutes

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after the top. They are right now Bill Martinez here

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with Landmark Legal. Mike O'Neil. Hey, my, good morning, good morning.

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Could to be with you, Bill, Hey, great being with you.

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A lot going on here. Swallwell implodes on himself. It's ironic.

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I mean, this is kind of you know, his own

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domicles sword. I guess maybe he just thought that it

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would never fall on him. But you know, the thing

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about the Democrats and the party itself, the apparatic is

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they've been known to eat their own, haven't they.

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Absolutely, they're ruthless. Absolutely, it doesn't matter what kind of

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what you've done, or what you're doing, or what kind

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of you know, salacious activities you're engaging in. My take

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on it is if the the more you engage in

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that sort of thing, the more opportunities the powers that

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be in the Democrat Party have to obtain leverage over

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you and control you. And then what that means is

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when you have when you've engaged in affairs with spies,

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with Chinese spies. We all knew that that wasn't enough

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to get you kicked out of Congress. It's got an

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open secret in Washington, DC that he's a slime ball.

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Being a slam ball necessarily doesn't necessarily exclude you from Congress,

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but it certainly gives others who add thesaries or those

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who want to control your actions an opportunity to obtain

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leverage over you. And he was, you know, he was

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allowed to occupy his seat in Congress until such time

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as he became a liability, and the liability was obvious, right,

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there was a potentiality they have. They had ranked choice

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voting in California. It looked like Republicans were poised to

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occupy both of the top selections for the governors for

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the governor's seat, excluding all of the Democrats, because the

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number of Democrats in the field were nullifying their votes

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and not allowing them to migrate up to the top.

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So you had to cut off, uh, you had to

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take some action, and we could. We can't have a

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Republican Republican governor of California, absolutely not. That's a one

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party can state. So that's beyond them. So what do

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we have to do. We're gonna be ruthless and we're

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gonna cut. We're gonna cut Eric Swaba. Katie Porter, who's

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running for governor too, has there's there's all kinds of

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dirt on her. I mean, she's a terrible person. She

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she abuses her staff, she poured, she she assaulted her

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ex husband. I mean, she's an awful, awful person, and

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yet she's still being allowed to run for for for

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the for for her governors, governor in Congress. So it's

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just it's it's just a demonstrative of the ruthlessness of

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the Democrats and the extent to which they engage in

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rampant politicization of virtually everything in their efforts to obtain

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uh and to contain power and maintain power.

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Well, it was interesting the way they orchestrated this, because

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I think a week earlier they kind of said, look

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at we've got to call the herd here. We're putting

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our control of the govern office in jeopardy. We've got

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too many players on the field, so we're going to uh,

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you know, give you an opportunity to get out of

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the race. Well within short period of time, then all

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of a sudden this leaks out like it's just been

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sitting there waiting. I mean, you even had a reporter

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in the Bay Area that had the information what uh

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six seven years ago, and gave it to a fellow

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reporter because said, well, it's not my beat, you know,

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so it's not my responsibility. So she handed over somebody else,

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and you know, it goes, it goes along, you know,

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the wayside. But I mean, and and also look when

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you look at Swollwell's career with the Democrats, I mean

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he was there. I guess they're henchmen, so to speak.

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I mean, going after Trump the way he did, and

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also of course Bert Kavanaugh, even Brett Kevanaugh even worse yet.

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Right, oh, absolutely, And and you can't it's a it's

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a me. I'm always amazed at the the nerve and

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the gall of these people, of these individuals to speak

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the way they speak. This, I mean, we we're not

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getting into this, but Adam shift't. I wouldn't even want

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to be in their presence. They are just such bold faced,

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grotesque liars, right, I mean, really absolutely grotesque creatures. They're

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not human beings. I don't normal people in our in

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our culture. I lie, I feel terrible about it. I'm off,

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I can't lie to people, and the bold place lie.

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We're set aside all the terrible, awful things you're doing

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daily in the way you treat people who acts like this.

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It's beyond it's beyond comprehension that this exists. But yet

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these people continue to occupy powers, powerful positions in Washington, DC,

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and I just want and.

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Look at their look at their career path. Whether I

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mean you're talking Adam Shift. I think Adam Shift's day

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of recompense is coming. You know, here you got Swallowell,

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but you got Aviannatty, remember Avinatti?

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Yeah?

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Yeah? These what I mean to me, they're like of

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the same wolf and warf are they not? I mean,

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people that just lie and I mean they're just so

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it's really sad. It's a sad commentary, but it's also

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a warning I think for all humanity is that this

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is you know, these are attributes of power seeking individuals.

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Yeah, narcissist. Yeah, And it's interesting and again I go

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back to it is the ability of the Democrat Party

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to mobilize. I kind of admire the flex in that

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they can they can just move, they move and you know,

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end Mass, and they do what they they they will

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do what's necessary. Let's talk. I mean, just briefly. We've

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seen what's happened with the Pope and President Trump and

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this dust up recently, and of course the Pope was

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talking about Donald Trump's robust rhetoric regarding Iran. I'd like

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to say, first of all, I think you have to

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contextualize this. I want to say, just briefly for purposes

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of just bona FIDE's I'm I'm a practicing Catholic. I'm

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a I joined at Villanova University. We share the same

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the Pope and I share the same alma mater. In fact,

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he lived in a dorm across the street from or

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across the way from the dorm I lived, and he

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graduated twenty years earlier. But I have a lot of

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affirmat a lot of a lot of inclination to be appreciative.

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I recognize him of the Vicar of Christ and the

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head of the church. All of this that being said,

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he it's getting involved in this Trump and Pope politicization

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is problematic. Let me just briefly touch on this. David Axelrod.

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Reports are that David Axelrod, who is an Obama political operative.

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He's probably one of the If you're going to take

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a list of the Democrat operatives in the country, who's

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who's in charge, who's running things, David Axelrod is always

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going to be on your short list. Right, he met

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with the pope. He's not Catholic. Right he met with

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the pope last week or about a week ago. And

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is it a coincidence that David Axelrod, one of the

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power brokers of the Democrat Party, meets with the pope

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and then days later, a sixty minutes a story comes

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out with prominent archbishops and bishops and cardinals talking about immigration.

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And it is clear that the Democrats have recognized a

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potential vulnerability, a political vulnerability, in the fact that young

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people are going to matt are returning to the Catholic Church.

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In bigger numbers than any other religion.

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Right now, let me put a couple finer points on this.

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Number One, it's gen Z. So gen Z and gen

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X got Donald Trump elected. They did. They were the

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demographics that that that turned out to push Donald Trump

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over the edge. And when the popular and electoral vote,

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if you look at the numbers, it wasn't boomers or millennials,

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it was gen Z and gen X. Democrats recognize that

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next next point on this is the who what gen

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Zers are going back to? The are returning or are

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not returning but are entering the Catholic Church. The gen

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Zers in our cities, the quote unquote elite gen Zers.

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It's not you know, it's gen Zers in New York City, Washington, Chicago,

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Los Angeles. These are a critical Democrats recognize this as

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a critical and necessary constituency to ensure their power accumulation.

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And if they don't, if they lose those folks to Republicans,

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and it looks like, you know, they're trending towards Republicans,

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because the more likely you are to go to church

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and or mass habitually or regularly, you're going to be Republican.

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You're going to be less woke, You're going to be

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less uh less susceptible to the leftist nonsense that comes

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down the pike. That they understand that this is a

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valuable constituency that they that they have lost and that

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they need to get back. It's not just that they're

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gen Z. It's not just the numbers. It's also keep

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in mind. It's also who are these kids? Who are

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these younger people? These are these are the these are

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the people in the cities, young people in the cities.

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I hate to use the term elite, you know, I

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don't want to sound like that, but Democrats recognize them

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as the elites. These are the college graduates, These are

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the finance people, These are people in politics, These are

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people in Hollywood. You're talking like, really influential people in

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a position to affect the Democrat partic nationally, and they

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recognize that vulnerability.

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Okay, al tay, what let's go to break real quick.

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We'll pick it up. We got more from Mike O'Neil

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Hey, we're back with you. Thanks for hanging in there.

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Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal. All right, Mike,

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you were continuing on with explaining the power of you know,

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the influential Zeer's and x's in in you know, in

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urban America.

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Yeah, and so the Democrats see this. They're not stupid.

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They're very attuned to the to the ways of politics here.

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So they recognize an opportunity. Obviously, Donald I I completely

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support what's going on with Iran right now. I think

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it's going very well. But they they recognize an opportunity

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to try to drive a wedge between Catholics and Donald

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Trump and Conservatives and Republicans, right, and so they weaponized

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religion and they went to David Axrod met with the Pope.

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And I was, I was, I was gonna wear that.

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That's that's interesting. And then no, sooner does he have

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he meets with him, and then the Pope goes out

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of his lane. I mean to me that to me, Mike,

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it was a little bit like it was a bit

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of a setup. It was almost like I wanted to

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tell the Pope, you know what you need to do

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is you needed to talk to the tennis players that

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were approached by the media trying to get them with

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a gotcha political question. They didn't bite it. They said, hey,

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I'm here, this is what I'm about. I'm here to

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play tennis. You know the Pope Unfortunately, uh, you know,

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mishandled it. And of course well and and and to

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a degree, Mike, I would say that I'm saying mishandled.

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That's not that's not totally fair. But but the deal

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is is that he he bobbled it in such a

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way that it gave an opening to the media, and

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the media took the ball and ran with it.

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That's why I would I would go a little bit.

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I would I would put a little I would shift

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out a little bit. And that he is the media.

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If the Pope has asked a question about aggressive language,

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that the aggresive language of Donald Trump is using, right,

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and he's using that aggressive language on Iran. In order

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to convey a message, he has to speak to the

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powers that be in Iran in a language they understand.

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This isn't nuanced diplomats, you know in France trying to

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you know, trying to work out all of the nuances

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of this high level negotiation. This is you're dealing with

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a radical theological death cult.

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Yeah, you're you're battling with a bully.

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You have to speak in their language.

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Exactly get through to them.

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I will destroy you if you don't. That's it, And

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that's how they You can't say, well, you can't. You

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can't speak like, you know, like some sort of snooty

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French diplomats with nuances. There's no nuance here. It's like,

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if you don't do this, I will kill you. That's it,

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and that's how you that's that's how you accomplish a

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diplomatical well.

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Of course, because that's what they've been saying for decades, right, that's.

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The language they speak. You speak to the language if

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you want to break through them. You don't try to

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like you're not subtle with it. You say, I'm gonna

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I'm going to level your country and if you don't

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do this, and then you show the bombers in the

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air leveling your country, and that's how you unders that's

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how that's how you you get and if you.

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Got pictures of where they live, you bring out the

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pictures where they live, right.

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He said, Anymore, if you want to accomplish this, if

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you want to accomplish a diplomatic goal, in other words,

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peace in this point and not reduce the entire country

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to glass, then this is the language you have to

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you know, well, of course, when the Pope is presented

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with that language from his lane and his perspective and

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the way he talks about this, of course he's going

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to say what he says, because he's the pontiff and

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he's the Catholic, and he's going to always say, no,

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we shouldn't do this, we need to do this, blah

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blah blah.

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The Democrats know also that Donald Trump's going to respond

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to that, right, and so he's going to respond to that.

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And so now all of a sudden you have a

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wedge issue and the media is given the opportunity to question. Look,

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all you have to do is activate a media person,

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ask him about this. The Pope's on the plane, ask

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him about you. You don't even have to tell him

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to do it. You know they're going to do it,

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And so they do it. And so what is occurring now, right,

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and and so you have this, and then of course

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you have the other side of this, you have the

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American bishops who are wedded to immigrants.

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Yeah, exactly so.

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And I'll admit it. I'm again I was a practicing Catholic.

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But you have to acknowledge the truth here. There's a

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pecuniary interest at play here by an administration and Democrats

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give billions of dollars to these NGOs, including Catholic groups,

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to a bet illegal immigration.

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Let's just be very frank, exactly exactly so.

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The bishops are not speaking from a position of just

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pure theological virtue on this. They might be, and and

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again there is that Catholic social teaching about helping the

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poor and everything. However, I simply and so, but the

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danger here becomes a couple of things. Number One, recognize

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this for what it is. This is the Democrats trying

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to drive a wedge to drive young Catholics out of

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the Republican party. Right, It's very clearly this is. And

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if you don't believe, you don't see that, you need

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to wake up and understand it. Number Two, you understand

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the machinations and the political operations of the Democrats is vicious.

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They will do whatever it takes to get power, i e.

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Salt swallow. So this is how it all kind of

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comes together. And the next thing is you have to

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understand is that there is a cadre of Democrat elite

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Catholics in Washington, d c. That operate with significant influence

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over the US Conference of Catholic Bishops. And I kind

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of have a little bit of knowledge. I just know

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about you gotta trust. I just kind of know this

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that there are elite Democrats who are very powerful Catholics

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who are Catholic, and very powerful Democrats who have a

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lot of sway over the bishops. And again, you know,

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when you get into this, it's not it's not that

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it's it's it's an assertion of political power. Here and

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the last point here I want to make with this

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is how problematic it is once you start for this

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these issues to be politicized, the pope to weigh into politics,

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because it invariably raises the issue well, who put justices

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on the Supreme Court that overturned Roe versus Way, Donald

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Trump who defunded Planned parenthood, Donald Trump who wants to

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who is a pro who is a pro life President

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Donald Trump? What does what does Joe Biden do? He abets,

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he abets, he funds, planned pays well.

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By the way, Joe Biden and Catholic, a practicing Catholic

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that I said needs more practice.

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And so when you get into this, the church opens

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itself up to these simple questions. Why does why does

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the pope not condemn the Mullahs who killed forty thousand

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innocent peoples? Why why does the Pope go to Algeria,

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by the way, which is the homeland of Saint Augustine,

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which is the head of his order. He's in Augustin.

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But why does the Pope go to Algeria and take

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his shoes off and then speak positively about a country

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that bans Christian proselyzation. In other words, if you proselytize

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on Christianity in Algega, exactly why does the president can

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or why doesn't the Pope condemned? My point being is,

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once you wad into these waters, you start to ask.

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You have to ask tough questions. And these are the

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tough questions you have to ask. So I I you

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have to see, you have to see this for what

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it is. This is Democrats trying to move the needle

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here because they recognize a weakness in their part in

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the con in there, in there and heretofore, which has

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been a reliable constituency, which is young people, and they

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need to move them out of the They need to

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they need to drive a wedge between Catholics and Republicans.

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And this is what it is.

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What's the crisis management move that Trump must make? I mean,

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you know, it's it was so inopportunity that that meme

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that he put out that you know, some has suggested

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he was presenting himself as Jesus Christ, and.

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Yeah, it's stupid. And and the thing what sometimes you

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know that you know, to you know, to his detriment

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sometimes Donald Trump, but he's a known quantity, you know

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when the pope. You the Democrats know when the Pope

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says something about Donald Trump, Donald Trump's going to fire back,

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right they can. So they're like, okay, we're gonna gin

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up this this back and forth because we want to

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create this impression that Trump. And again, you know, there's

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an inopportune picture that he puts up some dumb social

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media posts with a picture which is simply stupid and

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always by the way it's taken down. But he should

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admit that was dumb, dumb play. He's not He's not

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beyond approach.

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Yeah, President is like he tried to come back and

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said he was trying to depict himself as a doctor

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or something silly.

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But the Democrats know your enemy, and they know that

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if they gin this up, that Trump's gonna come back.

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He has turned down the heat a little bit on this.

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I saw one of his more recent things and he said,

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you know, but again it's pushing back a little bit.

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It's saying, hey, look are you going to acknowledge forty

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thousand people were killed in Iran? You know, forty thousand

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peaceful protesters were killed, and I'm trying to stop them.

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There is just we could get into a just war

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theory about this and get into it. But you know, again,

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the simple thing here is, don't believe what you're seeing.

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Understand the powers that be that are operating to try

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to manipulate this situation and take advantage of the situation,

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just like the Democrats took a let advantage of the

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situation with Eric Swallwell. They kept him around useful until

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he wasn't useful for them. They cut him out when

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they needed when they need to secure the governorship of California,

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which is another story. We could talk about how terrible

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that's going to be, but understand the same sort of thing,

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the same sort of political politics. The politics are at

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play here with with regards to Catholics and the Pope.

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Yeah, well you bring out some some excellent points here.

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And I have been talking to my Catholic brothers as

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well to say, look, it just relaxed. You know, it's okay,

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it'll it'll work itself out, and before you know it,

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the Pope will be at the White House and uh,

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you know, and maybe maybe he will say the opening

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prayer for the ballroom for Donald Trump. You know, we

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can only we can only dream. But I mean, this

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is a dust up. This is you know, the Pope

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isn't infallible on these types of issues. Other issues he

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is as they relate to to Catholic doctrine, but you know,

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look at in this case, it's another it's another opinion.

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But he needs to be I guess he needs and

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support and counseling to say, man, if you're going to

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474
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maybe you need to take a breath for just a moment.

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And and maybe I don't even know if he understands

476
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that he was played by uh, you know, played by

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actual Rod and the Democrats.

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I I just think I think if you ask him

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the issue, if you said, I think, if you if

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you positive a direct question, was it did you you know,

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was was the support of planning parenthood? Do you think

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American tax dollars should go to support planned parentdoid he'd

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say no. Do you think that President Biden was wrong to,

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you know, to or President Obama was wrong to try

485
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to obligate little sisters of the poor, you know none

486
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nuns to buy birth control? I mean and he I'm

487
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sure he'd ask you that, but nobody ever asks him that,

488
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and it never rises to the level of of of

489
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of media of of course, not media consumption.

490
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So yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're looking for their tidbit

491
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to run with, right, and it's that which fits the

492
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narrative and the pistola of the Democratic Party.

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Zip.

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Absolutely yeah, got to leave it there. Mike O'Neil from

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Landmark Legal, Michael, appreciate it, Thank you, buddy, Take care

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the Mercery University Loss gold grad and former journalists and

565
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making an Atlanta hem us John.

566
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How you doing, Betty, I'm doing great.

567
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:05.920
I'm not too got keen on that former journalist Moniker, because.

568
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.079
That's what they said they were in the game. Well

569
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why were they putting former you know? I thought, well

570
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maybe no. Well, okay, what I'm gonna do is I'm

571
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going to x that out and say, of course he's

572
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still journaling.

573
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:23.119
Award winning journalist. Yeah, absolutely, I want to award in

574
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:28.440
nineteen seventy. Yeah, the Golden Mike Award.

575
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.400
Well, good for you, haven't I haven't had a repeat.

576
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.799
Well, because it was so good back in seventy, why

577
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should why should we reproduce it?

578
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Right?

579
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Yess?

580
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:43.279
That's it, Yeah, that's it. I mean, anyway, let's get

581
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.920
onto the business at hand. Eric Swalwell, Boy, the Democrats

582
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:50.359
couldn't throw him off the boat fast enough. Huh.

583
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.480
What took him so long? Yeah?

584
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.319
Well, they were looking for somebody because it was looking

585
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.599
pretty scary there in California. I mean, the Democrats were

586
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canceling themselves to the point that it was going to

587
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.599
look like because of that jungle election they have there

588
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.720
in California, like they were going to end up with

589
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.799
two Republicans. Can you imagine that in a uni party

590
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:10.319
state like California.

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00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:16.480
Well, politics comes up and produces strange results.

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I'm just glad to be British.

593
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:18.759
Walwell.

594
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You know, a couple of years ago, I had the

595
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.880
three m's that I wanted to see disappear from the

596
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:34.119
national landscape, McConnell, McCarthy and McDonald. And it took a while,

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00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:39.039
but by gosh, they were gone, right, And I you know,

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they're human beings, so I don't celebrate their loss, but

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I am glad that they're no longer part of the

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national conversation.

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And now I've.

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Got the three s's, Struck, Schwalwell and Shift Shift. Yes,

603
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.680
so one down, two to go. Now Struck is no

604
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longer in government, so that's a good thing. Why would

605
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:06.960
MS now, I think they call themselves hire and pay

606
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:09.599
a certified liar.

607
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Yeah, he knew that.

608
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:16.480
The Russia Russia Russia deal was a complete hoax, Yet

609
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.000
while he was the assistant director of the FBI, he.

610
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Tried to prosecute people and.

611
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:30.079
Did effectively prosecute some people like Roger Stone, exactly. And

612
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.799
Roger Stone, as he famously says, how could I have

613
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.720
been convicted about lying about something that never even happened?

614
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:39.680
Exactly?

615
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.160
Yeah, he paid such a huge price. And that's the

616
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.880
thing that really bothers me about these people. And you

617
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.319
look at the January sixth.

618
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.400
I was gonna say, another case in point fifteen hundred

619
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.279
people whose lives try they effectively ruined.

620
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:55.519
Many of them they ruined.

621
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.559
Can we ever make them hold John?

622
00:31:58.599 --> 00:31:59.400
I wish we would.

623
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.000
I mean you and I started GoFundMe page and see

624
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:03.200
how much money we can raise.

625
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:04.960
Well, I think we need to put pressure.

626
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:05.960
We'll give it to him.

627
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.279
Hey, for all this money the FBI captures and everything

628
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.880
like that, we'll do like Trump, We'll divert you know,

629
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.400
some tariff money, some of that money that they get

630
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:17.920
from you know, drug runners and whatever, and diverted into

631
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.160
a campaign that makes these people whole. I mean, even Flynn.

632
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:22.920
You know, they took care of Flynn a little bit,

633
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:26.240
but even then it wasn't you know, what was it

634
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.039
like a million and a half or something million?

635
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.920
A million two fifty I think to be exact, and

636
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:38.319
near compensated him for the harm that he endured. Financially,

637
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.480
reputationally in career, and.

638
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.160
Yeah, here's a hero, John, here's a hero one point

639
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.200
twenty five. And then you get somebody like George Floyd,

640
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.200
they gets twenty seven million. What's wrong with this picture?

641
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.640
Well, it's just the messed up world we live in.

642
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.039
And it's it's very worrisome that, you know, people can

643
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:06.720
get large award, but it usually their minorities. And I

644
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:11.160
don't know, it's what I see that's wrong with this

645
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:12.400
country today.

646
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:13.559
And we talk.

647
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:22.559
About Democrats, Republicans, liberals, Conservatives, Christians, Jews, agnostics go down

648
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.920
the list, but it really is a war that we

649
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.960
are engaged in between the haves and the have nots.

650
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.880
Since two thousand and six, I've worked in the inner

651
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.960
city of Atlanta. I've given thousands of dollars and thousands

652
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.480
of hours of my time for the worst zip code

653
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:49.440
in America works for HIV per capita, obesity, disease, poverty, homelessness,

654
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:50.799
of literacy, jobless.

655
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.759
Are you going to tell me, John that, Are you

656
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:54.480
going to tell me that Stacy Abrams didn't give you

657
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:56.200
a little bit of that two billion dollars that she

658
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:57.880
got from Biden to help you out for such a

659
00:33:58.039 --> 00:33:58.759
just cause.

660
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.200
Not a penny in fact, that that would get us

661
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:04.599
going down another branch, which I'm happy to talk about.

662
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:06.839
But we were there to help people, and there were

663
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:12.400
people there in leadership that picketed us and rich buckhead

664
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.679
Man go home after we had received a very nice

665
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.599
award from the Trust for Public Land and Cox Broadcasting

666
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.280
for the work that we had done there. And they

667
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.679
wanted the nigh Those people wanted the neighborhood to change

668
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.840
and did not want improvement because that was their power base.

669
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:34.280
That Ivy Young, the late Ivory Young, who was a

670
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.920
good friend of mine, he was a city council council

671
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:41.039
person in Atlanta, called them the poverty pimps. So you

672
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:46.000
think this work should be easy, but it's just not so.

673
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:48.119
Well.

674
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.480
I was going to say, the war that we're waging

675
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.239
is not between all those people. It's the haves and

676
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.920
the have nots, and that that's what's going on in

677
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.039
New York. Mandamie wants to take from the rich and

678
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.800
give to the poor so he can have political power.

679
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.719
It's just that simple, and is also wrong because it

680
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:13.039
doesn't help the beneficiaries at all. Instead, they become resentful.

681
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:14.719
I mean, just look at the people that have won

682
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.559
millions of dollars in the lottery. You'd think they would

683
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.639
be happy and they would be philanthropic and sending their

684
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:21.119
kids and.

685
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.559
People to school. But they're not.

686
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:26.360
They'll become bitter, resentful and want to know why they

687
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:27.760
can't get more money.

688
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.559
Right exactly, and they end up losing that money almost

689
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.400
as fast as they get it. I mean, the sad

690
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.639
stories and testimonies of these people that have experienced that

691
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.679
kind of windfall profit because they're not prepared, they don't

692
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:43.280
have any education or upbringing of how to handle millions

693
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.960
of dollars right to manage it. Well, it's it's like

694
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.599
professional ballplayers, right, I mean, you hear all these stories

695
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:55.239
about these these great ballplayers that are broken, are you know,

696
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.679
homeless and what have you. It just breaks your heart

697
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.000
to think about it. But you know, this is why

698
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:03.599
you need to have some wife's counsel around you. But

699
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:05.440
going back to what you were saying earlier in terms

700
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.880
of that has and have not, so I've said it's

701
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:13.719
it's a battle between America and anti Americans and and

702
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.400
and at the very root, because this is a root issue,

703
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.480
as you cited, and what we need to do is

704
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.840
get down to the root issue and bore that thing

705
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.519
out of there and understand, at the end of the day,

706
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.480
what are we you know, what are we clamoring for?

707
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.840
What do we need? And you know here you are?

708
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:32.920
I mean you promote the truth. We promote the truth.

709
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.239
We pursue the truth no matter where it leads. You're

710
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.199
doing the same thing. The truth is the core issue, John,

711
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.039
because if we know the truth, we know what we're

712
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:42.599
dealing with and we can agree. You may have a

713
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.079
different process and how to get there, but if we're

714
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.519
both aiming for the truth, I think we can have

715
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a conversation, don't you.

716
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And that should be the lowest common denominator. You should all.

717
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Agree that the truth is going to be the one

718
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thing that we don't disagree on.

719
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But we can't even get that.

720
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People to acknowledge that twenty twenty was stolen when the

721
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evidence is overwhelming that twenty twenty was stolen.

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I don't really know about the other Swing States.

723
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I do know about Georgia because I worked with the

724
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legal team on a case against the Fulton Board of Elections.

725
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I have seen the evidence, I've talked to the witnesses,

726
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I've played the Devil's Advocate with the forensic accountants. There

727
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is zero doubt in my mind that Georgia was stolen

728
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by an overwhelming a tsunami of fraudulent votes four hundred

729
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:35.000
thousand in an election that was lost by eleven thousand

730
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and seventy nine.

731
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And it.

732
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Is laughable on the one hand that people could be

733
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either stupid, but it's.

734
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Damning on the other hand that could people could be

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that selfish and that determined to get their way at

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the expense of our constitution and our country and they're

737
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willing to deprive other people of their fundamental right of

738
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the the franchise in order to get their way. Is

739
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just demonically wrong in my view.

740
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Well, and I agree with you one hundred percent. And

741
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I don't know what it's going to take John to

742
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where the evidence can finally come out once and for all,

743
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so that we get it out of you know, because

744
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some people will say, well, you know, that's John Gordon's opinion,

745
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that's Bill Martinez's opinion. But you know, you you know,

746
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it's like the evidence is purposely being squashed and kept

747
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away from the every man. Anyway, let's go to quick break.

748
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We'll pick it up on the other side. Okay, more

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You know, getting back to what you were talking about,

831
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because the ramifications of a stolen election, and like we

832
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were talking about before, the truth is so vital for

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everything about life. All it takes is a little bit

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of a lie, and the trajectory that you will be

835
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on will be so far off the mark that it

836
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will cost you, in our case, trillions of dollars. We're

837
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now thirty nine trillion dollars a debt. And I asked

838
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this question to all my brilliant economists guests who come on,

839
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and I say, okay, how much of that thirty nine

840
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trillion is tied to vote getting and tied to deception.

841
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And they say, well, probably all of it.

842
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Well that's really alarming, but that helps explain why it's

843
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so hard to get meaningful budget reform in Washington. And

844
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I do believe that the people that are opposed to

845
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it are in on it. Of course, saving on Omar.

846
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She came here with nothing and she's now worth twenty

847
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five million dollars as a member of Congress.

848
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Yeah, and she's head of a multi level marketing program

849
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that has all these somalis. They've captured Minneapolis, Minnesota. They're

850
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also capturing California and god knows where else, you know whatever,

851
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Nick Shirley happens to expose next, right, one.

852
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Hundred and twenty eight billion dollars for the train that

853
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was never built. Yeah, and they're still talking about delivering it,

854
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but just a third of it by twenty thirty three.

855
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And you want you want that governor to be the

856
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president of the United States? Are you're kidding me?

857
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Yeah? And you know if you or I don't pay

858
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fifty cents.

859
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Of taxes ode, they'll they'll come with people with badges

860
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and handcuffs.

861
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Yeah.

862
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The people that we trust to enforce our laws, and

863
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who are determining the tax policy of our country are

864
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:39.400
ripping us off. And that's really that's really maddening. I mean,

865
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:41.639
the fact that you and I work very hard for

866
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our money. We do it honestly, We pay our taxes,

867
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:48.599
we've we save, we invest, and they they they just

868
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:50.639
want to come and get it. And I don't think

869
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:56.079
that that's right on any level. But I'm certainly willing

870
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to help them.

871
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.559
Yeah, well we help. We have helped in We've helped

872
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We've helped them all our professional and business lives, John

873
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for the last sixty years exactly. So you know, that's

874
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our heart, and that's the heart of most people. And

875
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you know here it is, you know, like they always say, well,

876
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we're going to go after those billionaires, those rich people

877
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that are paying you know, what is it less than

878
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:20.360
one percent you know in New York and they're paying

879
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.360
what forty percent of the taxes. Now they're chasing them

880
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.239
out of Dodge there. I mean, don't even stand at

881
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the exit. You're gonna get run over by a runaway

882
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:29.840
U haul is. They're all escaping Dodge.

883
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.039
Well, ten percent of the nation pays ninety percent of

884
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.159
the taxes. Yeah, so that that that's the point that

885
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:37.320
I was making earlier.

886
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.000
You know, it's sad that you would think that, you know.

887
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They want reparations some element of the black community want

888
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reparations for slavery. Well, two things. One, I've never owned

889
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.239
a slave, too. I don't know whether my ancestors did.

890
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:56.840
I suspect that some of.

891
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:57.400
Them may have.

892
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.639
But we're talking about two hundred years ago, and for

893
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:03.239
the last sixty years to your point, in my view,

894
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:09.760
we have already paid reparations, free food, free housing, free education,

895
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.079
free pretty much Obama phones. I mean, you know, when

896
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is healthcare?

897
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.519
Thank you? And I'm not I don't know.

898
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:24.079
I'm probably now a racist for having said that, but

899
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:24.519
I'm not.

900
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:27.639
Well, you're speaking out loud. A lot of people have

901
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:28.880
been thinking, John.

902
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:29.719
For twenty years.

903
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.760
I've worked in the black community trying to help revitalize

904
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.159
that community that I was talking about.

905
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.159
So and I have.

906
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.639
I'm on a first name basis with hundreds of people

907
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:42.760
who live there, and they love me because they know

908
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.639
that my heart is pure. I'm not coming in to

909
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.599
develop real estate or take advantage of them. I'm there

910
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:52.920
to help. But then it seems like in a broader

911
00:46:52.960 --> 00:47:00.159
picture that our benevolence, whatever generosity we give, is trans

912
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.400
laid it into entitlement. We owe it to them and

913
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:06.679
there is no gratitude. So why do you want to

914
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:07.760
continue to keep giving?

915
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:09.360
I don't think that I do.

916
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.079
Frankly now where whereas needed and appreciated one hundred percent,

917
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.039
But I have no obligation to go help somebody that

918
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.440
just wants to give me, gimme gimme.

919
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.760
Well, John, you and I have been blessed. You know,

920
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.039
this country has given us so much an opportunity in

921
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:30.159
that and the nature of people like us, which are

922
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.280
the majority of people, is we wing to give to

923
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.320
somebody else a leg up? You always pay it forward? Now,

924
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:39.639
that's the way I was raised, right, Yeah, So so

925
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.599
here it is. We know, we want to help people,

926
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.639
and and sometimes it's shocking to me because I think

927
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.239
in other minority groups. You know, it's like some of

928
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:52.239
these cellabs are making you know, millions upon millions of dollars,

929
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.519
and I go, you know, where are you in the

930
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.440
inner city? How are you helping you know, these homeless

931
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.920
and these that are you know, that are being ripped off.

932
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:03.639
When it comes to education, what are you doing to

933
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.880
be an example. You know, there's not enough. You know,

934
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.199
in LA when I was there, you know, Magic Johnson

935
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.519
was was at the forefront, he was doing a lot

936
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:15.679
for the local community. There were other you know, minorities

937
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.960
that were serving the local community. But still there were

938
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:20.199
so many others that just hey, they're happy to take

939
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:21.079
their money and run.

940
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:21.400
You know.

941
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.519
Well, in Atlanta, you'd have to concede that it's one

942
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:31.719
of the most affluent black populations in the country. The

943
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.719
population is roughly fifty percent African American, and there are

944
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:41.480
some very very successful entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers who are.

945
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.599
Black, and I applaud them.

946
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.159
Yet in our charity, when we were raising money for

947
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:54.599
the black community, they were the smallest demographic represented. And

948
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.760
I can't explain that, and I'm not mad about it.

949
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.519
I'm just stating the fact we asked and they didn't respond.

950
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:03.280
What can I do.

951
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:09.360
Exactly, Well, let's talk about Pambondy. You know, with the

952
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.840
stuff that you know, the chair shuffling that's going on

953
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.679
in DC, I think some people, you know, caught a

954
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.880
little bit surprised. We heard rumblings about the situation with

955
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.559
Pam Bondy. I think that you could question the handling

956
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:27.000
of Epstein and the files, and you know, promising some

957
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:32.000
things that she couldn't delivered. And you know, I think

958
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:33.880
it just more and more as the days went on,

959
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:34.960
it seemed inevitable.

960
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.960
Well, I'll just say that, you know, I've seen behind

961
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:43.679
the curtain. I've was an endorsed candidate by President Trump

962
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.920
to run for ag from Georgia after the twenty twenty election,

963
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.599
and the work that I'd done on election integrity in Georgia.

964
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.119
So I've been tomorrow Largo a lot. I have met

965
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:59.719
privately with Susie Wiles on multiple occasions.

966
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:00.840
I like her.

967
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:06.239
She is very competent, she is tough as nails. And

968
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.119
when I read the Vanity Fair article a few three

969
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.320
or three months ago, I maybe actually have been back

970
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:16.719
in January now, and she said that Pam Bondy whipped

971
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.920
on the Epstein matter, I knew that Pam Bondi's goose

972
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:25.360
was cooked. Trump might be running the war in Iran,

973
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.800
Make no mistake, Susie Wilds is running the White House.

974
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.760
And she is.

975
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:38.000
Has the cabinet at her fingertips, and she is going

976
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:42.280
to require them to fall in line and do what

977
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.960
the President wants and if they get out of line,

978
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.519
it's her job to correct it. And I think that's

979
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:53.400
what happened with Pam Bondy. You know, as a citizen,

980
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.639
as a journalist, I'm not disappointed to see Pam Bondy go.

981
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:03.079
She promised just the moon and delivered a squad and that.

982
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:07.400
You know, do you like it when somebody lies to you?

983
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.079
You know, well, certainly if it's a flat out lie.

984
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.599
I have no patience for people who lie for me.

985
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.000
It triggers me, or when somebody plays me for a fool.

986
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:22.719
So when she paraded those social media influencers out of

987
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.039
the door to the West Wing and they were holding

988
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:31.559
their Epstein file books, it was a sham. The I

989
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:33.760
think there were maybe one hundred or two hundred pages

990
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.480
in those books, and they were documents that were already

991
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.159
in the public domain that shed no light on anything.

992
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:43.039
So I felt that we were being played and I

993
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.559
was resentful of her for having done that. When she

994
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.400
promised us the files are on my desk, I'm going

995
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.239
through them, I will be releasing.

996
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.719
Them shortly, well that was a lie because I.

997
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:59.119
Don't think she had six million pieces of paper on

998
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:04.039
her desk. And when the Congress passed the law that

999
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:08.559
ordered the files be released. We got three million pages

1000
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:12.119
heavily redacted, but there are another three million that they

1001
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:14.760
say they're not going to release now. So they're just

1002
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.400
flicking the Congress of the United States off even after

1003
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.280
President Trump signed the bill. Somebody needs to go to

1004
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:25.800
court and have a rid of mandamus issued against the

1005
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:28.440
Attorney General of the United States to do what.

1006
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.360
The Congress and the President have told him to do.

1007
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:32.079
I mean, but it just.

1008
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:36.960
Gives you a real look at the deep state, and

1009
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.800
I think that's what we're seeing. Somebody is calling the shots,

1010
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.719
and I don't think it is Trump, but I think

1011
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:50.360
that he is what's the right word. He is not

1012
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:54.760
an enabler, he's not complicit, but he's not doing anything

1013
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.000
about it. I have the instinct, Well, you know, when

1014
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.000
Dan Bongino went to be the assistant director of the FBI,

1015
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.039
there were a couple of several news stories actually about

1016
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:08.800
how the FBI had to go outside of Washington to

1017
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.960
find fifty loyal, honest FBI agents that could come and

1018
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:20.000
protect do Geno at his desk inside the FBI. Now,

1019
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:21.800
if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know,

1020
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:26.199
I don't know what does. And I have the suspicion,

1021
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.599
and I have the belief that there is that the

1022
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:34.199
federal government is rotten to its core, and I have

1023
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:38.119
the suspicion that it can be a dangerous place to work.

1024
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:42.920
And I think that that's probably part of the explanation

1025
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.920
when Trump doesn't do what we think that he should

1026
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.719
or would have done based on what he promised us.

1027
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.559
Well, it was like the JFK files, right, he was

1028
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.679
going to release all the JFK files. He released have

1029
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:58.760
and stopped even though it was codified that at a

1030
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.079
certain time, this was his first administration, that all the

1031
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.159
files were to be released. And I, like you, I

1032
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.400
suspected that there was some pressure and some threats on

1033
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:11.360
his family and that's probably why he stopped.

1034
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:18.440
Well, Trump said that Mike Pompeo leaned heavily on him

1035
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:20.239
not to release the files.

1036
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:21.679
And now we know.

1037
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.280
Through the work of various authors, journalists and researchers. Roger Stone,

1038
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.840
he wrote the book The Men Who Killed Kennedy, the

1039
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:36.679
Case against LBJ. Douglas who wrote The Unspeakable, David Talbot,

1040
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.719
who wrote The Devil's Triangle. They all come up with

1041
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.639
the same facts. In slightly different conclusions. But Roger Stone

1042
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.239
is the book that I believe the most. LBJ was

1043
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.360
about to be dropped from the ticket. He was under

1044
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:56.960
investigation in Texas for defrauding the government for cotton subsidies

1045
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:02.719
and allotments, and the agricultural Commissioner was after him. And

1046
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:09.480
so what happened. Two things happened. The Agricultural Commissioner was assassinated.

1047
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:16.199
Macwallace was tried for that murder and convicted by twelve

1048
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:19.440
men and women. The judge was a protege of LBJ,

1049
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.079
and he reduced mac Wallace's sentence to time serve. He

1050
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:27.480
literally walked out of jail the day he was convicted

1051
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:32.639
of murder. It should have been a capital offense. And

1052
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:39.079
then they all all these authors conclude that well Stone

1053
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:44.039
concludes that LBJ planned it, and the other authors believe

1054
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:47.960
that Alan Dulles carried it out, which is what I believe,

1055
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:51.559
and that Jay Edgar Hoover covered it up. So what

1056
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.079
we've conveyed to every bureaucrat in America is that if

1057
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.760
you're in government and you have power, you can literally

1058
00:55:57.880 --> 00:55:59.840
get away with.

1059
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.000
Exactly Well, we got to leave it there. John Gordon,

1060
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:05.119
thank you as always, appreciate you coming on the show

1061
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.760
as he's the Mercer University Law school graduate and award

1062
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.079
winning journalists John Gordon and of course the host of

1063
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.639
The Truth with John Gordon. Thank you, John, take care.

1064
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:16.960
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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live, Well.

1085
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:31.920
Good morning, six minutes after the top of the are

1086
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.480
right now the way I look at it, I'm Bill Martinez,

1087
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.880
and he is Scott Powell from the Discovery Institute and

1088
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.320
the author himself. Hey mister Scott, how you doing, Benny,

1089
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:40.559
I'm very well built.

1090
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:41.719
Thanks, Hey, Tay.

1091
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:43.760
A lot of good things going on. I'll say, you

1092
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:46.119
know what Donald Trump is doing with a straight up

1093
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:49.000
horn moze. I mean, it's a game of chess. It's

1094
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.920
like the Iranians are playing checkers and he's playing chess

1095
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.039
on multiple levels. You know, they thought they had something there.

1096
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:57.159
It says, okay, well, if you want to block the

1097
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.119
you know, block the flow of ships, let's just get

1098
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.280
real serious and we're you know, we just happen to

1099
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.880
have a couple of navy boats around and we'll we'll

1100
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:11.920
just blockade the straight of horror moons right right. Amazing,

1101
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:12.880
really amazing.

1102
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:17.639
It's I think, what's what should surprise Americans? And please Americans,

1103
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:21.440
is that we have a president now who really is

1104
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:26.719
committed to American interests and he's on the offensive. He's

1105
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:27.800
on the offense.

1106
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.559
Yeah, in a strategic sort of way, Scott. It's not

1107
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.079
like you're sitting there going, hey, I'm just gonna throw

1108
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:36.400
a nuclear bomb out there and totally decimate their civilization.

1109
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.719
You know, he's been doing everything he can in playing

1110
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:45.400
whatever cards they're playing, to counter their you know, their cards,

1111
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:47.760
to say Okay, well if you do this, I'm gonna

1112
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:50.159
do that. But each step of the way you watch it,

1113
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:54.280
whether it's bombing or whether it's the blockade, it's to

1114
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:58.440
preserve civilization. Not to go off the headline that everybody

1115
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:02.760
ran with when he said, hey, we're going to destroy civilization.

1116
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:07.719
But as one guest, Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal pointed out,

1117
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:11.400
he said, you know, with people with bullies like that,

1118
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.519
you've got to speak their language, right. And after all,

1119
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.800
this is the same people that for almost five decades,

1120
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.280
not only by words but by their actions, want to

1121
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.320
destroy America. And they've said as much. And then all

1122
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.360
of a sudden, the media and everybody's clutching their pearls

1123
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.920
because Donald Trump says, you know, this is going to

1124
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:32.559
be the end of civilization, And of course anybody with

1125
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.960
any kind of common sense understood exactly what Trump was saying.

1126
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:37.199
That's right.

1127
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:43.519
Yeah, it's remarkable, amazing that we finally have the president

1128
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.840
who is you know, who's willing to go on the

1129
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:48.840
offense for America.

1130
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:49.519
Did you hear it?

1131
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.760
Just? I think it was yesterday he met with the

1132
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:59.159
leader of Indonesia and has struck up a defense agreement

1133
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.840
within Indonesia that would protect the Straits of Malacca. So

1134
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:07.079
now the United States is securing the Straits of Malacca,

1135
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:13.360
which more oil flows through that, especially oil to China.

1136
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:17.440
Right exactly. Yeah, and President she goes, oh my gosh,

1137
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.000
thank god, he's coming. He's coming to China. Maybe we

1138
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:23.559
can talk and have a bruskie and and make nice here.

1139
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.960
What do you think, Well, you gotta you gotta.

1140
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:32.360
One has to recognize that that Trump uh is respected tremendously.

1141
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:32.800
You know.

1142
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.360
One of the first modern philosophers of political philosophy was

1143
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:41.320
machiavel A. And most people don't don't properly understand Machiavelli

1144
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:44.920
because he wrote The Prince as a you know, as

1145
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.239
a sort of a study a guide book, I think

1146
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:53.400
to the to the Menichi family, Uh, it was it

1147
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:58.599
was his offering to become their secretary of defense. Uh

1148
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.800
And and basically he articulated all the different ways in

1149
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:05.039
which your enemies will try and destroy you, kill you, right,

1150
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:06.440
And that's what the Prince does.

1151
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:06.679
Now.

1152
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:09.320
People said, oh, he's Mackievellien. No, Mackievellian was actually a

1153
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:16.480
Christian and he he he wrote this to show that

1154
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:20.599
he understood all the different demonic strategies that would.

1155
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.119
Be used to destroy you.

1156
01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:27.400
And mckievela also in the Princess asked the question of

1157
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:31.840
is it better for a leader to be loved or

1158
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.760
is it better for him to be feared? And he

1159
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:36.519
came down on the side of it's better that a

1160
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:41.079
leader be feared than loved, right. And that describes Donald

1161
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:45.039
Trump very well. On the international scene. Donald Trump is

1162
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:48.679
respected because he's feared. They don't know what he's going

1163
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:52.400
to do except that he's aggressive and he's out to

1164
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.239
defend American interests.

1165
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.360
Yeah. What Donald Trump said early on Scott is that

1166
01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:02.199
I want people to be mindful of that ten percent

1167
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:07.159
that they don't know what I'm going to do. You know,

1168
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.480
they have their doubts, and I guess that raises that

1169
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:14.440
level of fear, particularly if you're in combat with him

1170
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:17.280
or if you're at war with him, you go will

1171
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.639
he or won't he? And I think I think Putin

1172
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:25.039
has that same kind of personality as president. She does

1173
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:27.679
in that kind of power. It's not that they're sitting

1174
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:30.599
there going okay, I mean they're not going total Adolf

1175
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:34.280
Hitler here, but they're just saying, hey, I you know,

1176
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.679
I've got I've got a weapon here, and I'm going

1177
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.960
to let you take a peek of it. Ever so much,

1178
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:45.000
and that represents about ten percent of the conversation. And

1179
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.800
you know, getting back to what Trump said earlier about

1180
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:54.320
annihilating or devastating the civilization, you know, mission accomplished. He

1181
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:56.119
needed to get he wanted to get him back to

1182
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:59.119
the bargaining table. He did not want to. And you

1183
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.719
could tell even when he is talking about the kind

1184
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:05.679
of damage that would be caused if he let all help,

1185
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.159
you know, break loose, it was that his heart was

1186
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.400
that he wanted to have a discussion. What did he

1187
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:14.159
do got him back to the bargaining table. We've got

1188
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.719
a two week cease fire. And even though it hasn't

1189
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:23.000
resulted in something fantastic. It is, it's part of the

1190
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.039
process because of who you're dealing with. You're not dealing with,

1191
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.199
you know, even Venezuela. I mean, you're dealing with some

1192
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:36.400
ideologues that are just nuts, that have generational complexities and

1193
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:39.639
a desire to kill you right right.

1194
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:41.039
Yeah.

1195
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And even though negotiations broke down, what was the next

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hand he played right away was Okay, you want to

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you want to control the straits of her moves blockaded,

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We're going to blockade you. Well, we're gonna We're gonna

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take over right in the streets. We have the firepower

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How are you going to blockade that?

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Right exactly? And you know that's it's just so comical

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but brilliant. And the thing is is that the left

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they can't even appreciate the brilliance of this move.

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Well, they suffer from td as Trump derangement from so

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they can see nothing, you know, nothing admirable or good

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about Donald Trump. It's it's very sad that people are

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so you know, so praised over his persona that they

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can't see the results of his policies which have been

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really quite really good for America across the board.

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Actually, where do you think we'd be if Kamala Harris

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was president right now?

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I don't even want to think really, because she has

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she had no no, no vision for America, no no

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clarity of mind, no priorities. I mean, she was just

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a you know, a Democrat opportunist that just wanted power

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and would sort of manage as she goes.

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Yeah, but she would probably maintain the apparatchick of the

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Obama and Biden years. So the same incompetence that ran

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our foreign policy for eight years under Barack Obama and

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four years of under Biden. You know, that really brought

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us to this point, that brought us to this climax

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that Donald Trump had to do something about it or otherwise.

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I mean, Scott, I don't think people really appreciate that,

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you know, what it would mean for Iran to have

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a nuclear weapon, and they were within probably two weeks.

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I mean, they so boldly and arrogantly tell the negotiators.

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They say to, you know, to Marco Rubio in company, Hey,

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we've got enough fusel material here that we can you know,

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we can develop eleven nuclear bombs here, So take that right.

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Right right, and the next thing, you know, dealing with

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that taking those taking that capability away.

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Well yeah, I mean he's definitely limited and like you said,

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he could walk away today, it would take him twenty

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years to rebuild. But why do you want to have

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a president and a nation dealing with this twenty years

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from now to have this ideology? You know, come back

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and haunt you one more time. We've got to go

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to quick Break.

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the author, member of the Committee on this President Danger

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in China, senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Well, Scott, again,

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we can be thankful that President Trump is the President

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of the United States. Again. I thank God for Donald Trump.

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I thank God for the American people who elected this president.

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And I say to the American people that we have

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to bring reinforcements to the belt Way to help this

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president out. He's done a lot of this single handedly.

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He's battling even his own party on things that are

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no brainers that should been you know, whether it's immigration

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or these other major issues that we're dealing with in

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this country, you know, voting.

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And Stay of America actors, yes.

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Exactly, I mean, these eighty twenty ninety twenty issues. And

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you know, and for some reason, you know, are elected

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officials in Congress doing what they're doing instead of following,

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you know, following Trump's lead and codifying these actions that

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he's that are working so beautifully. I mean, I mean

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right now here we are, you know, with tax Day

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and all that's going on, Scott and people are realizing

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bigger returns than they they'd expected for this year and

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no tax on tip. You had the grandma dashdor Gallup

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come to the White House and bring him, you know,

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a couple of bags of cheeseburgers from McDonald's and you know,

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and how much money does she get from, you know,

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just from no taxes? And she really needed I mean,

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she's got a husband who's dealing with cancer. I mean,

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and this is just one of probably millions of stories

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across America. Thank you very much, the big beautiful bill

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and the vision that began with Donald Trump.

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Yes, yeah, absolutely, yep.

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So here we are.

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It's a you know, we're on the verge of a

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new day. I think, I really do. I think that

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the Iran situation is is going to work out, and

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we'll have to see if this regime survives. But it's

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it's it's actually doubtful.

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Yeah, I don't I don't know how it can. He's

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got to root it out. I think the people there,

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you know, they're still talking numbers forty fifty thousand. We

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have reports that's over eighty thousand people were murdered at

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the hands of the guy or GC and the local

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law enforcement officials there in Tehran, you know, and the

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people are you know, they're defenseless right now, and they're

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really hoping and praying and counting, you know, on America

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to finally uproot and this is this is an evil

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that needs to be uprooted, and by the grace of God,

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that can happen. And if that does, Scott and we're

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going to talk about what you wrote about the story

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of everything. We are on the verge not only of

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a golden age for America, but I think for the

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entire planet. And I think that again, God willing, you know,

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of course, this will fit into God's eternal plan and

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where we're heading, and there will be a time of peace,

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and there will be a time of you know, of

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another great awakening, I believe, and a movement that would

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be good for all, for the entire world, for all

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concerned that we can, you know, consider living in peace

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and contributing to the greater good of all humanity. And

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I think that. And and after all this said and done,

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like it or not, you can thank Donald Trump for

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helping to set the state it all.

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Yeah, it's remarkable. It's remarkable. He overcame so much and

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just has proceeded to go on the offensive on policies

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that are good for our country. And people are recognizing it.

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You know, we all were two weeks ago. We were

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all concerned about the war. You know, the war was

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going to derail the economy. Higher oil prices and we're

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going to get miird in a long protracted situation that

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would derail the economy, how things have sort of changed.

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You know, we have you know, we have hundreds of

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tankers and super tankers on the way to the Gulf

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Right to.

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the credit of Donald Trump.

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You and you bring up an excellent point here, Scott,

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and some people are missing the nuance. And I think

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it's more than a nuance. It's quite obvious. You know,

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in previous military engagements with under different presidents, they would

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they would cast a vision say hey, this is what

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we're doing and here it's going, and you had you

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had to really just believe a lot of what they

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can see, you know, the video footage. You can see

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what Donald Trump is doing and how this thing is

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starting to play out. It's not like he's doing this.

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Are there some back room negotiations are going certainly, but

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you can see the fruit of the decisions and choices

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he's making on behalf of the American people to where

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the American people are saying, okay, and I don't like

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01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:47.239
paying a dollar more a gallon. I got spoiled. I

1433
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.760
like the lower gas prices, but for national security and

1434
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:55.600
for the long term liberty of America and you know,

1435
01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:59.520
some fellow citizens of the world. Okay, that's a small

1436
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:00.760
price to pay, right.

1437
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:02.640
Yes, it is, it really is.

1438
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:03.439
It's amazing.

1439
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:07.079
Yeah, yeah, I mean just think about it. You know, Uh,

1440
01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:12.199
China used to get twenty percent of its oil from Venezuela.

1441
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:15.720
Now they're getting no Venezuela and oil, well they're getting

1442
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.079
it from US now America. America is controlling where the

1443
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:21.239
Venezuela oil gets sold to.

1444
01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:24.560
And the deal is is Trump's happy to sell it

1445
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:27.039
to g right, He's not like saying, hey I got it,

1446
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:29.159
you're not going to get it. Hey I have oil.

1447
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:31.239
I know you need it, so you know, I'm happy

1448
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:33.119
to happy to give the price. And then if you,

1449
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:37.239
if you dare go ahead and reinforce Iran and you

1450
01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:40.159
send them weaponry, guess what I'm going to throw a

1451
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:43.880
fifty percent tearoff on on this oil.

1452
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:49.000
Yeah right, yes, yeah yeah, And they were and the

1453
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:52.279
Chinese were spoiled by striking a deal with they're own

1454
01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:54.279
where they were buying oil well below.

1455
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:58.680
Oh my goodness, yes, what a dam Yeah exactly. So

1456
01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:01.920
that party's over and so Trump's got that card and

1457
01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:05.439
he's playing it to the advantage of America in China

1458
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:07.720
because meanwhile, I mean, we've got a lot to deal

1459
01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:11.000
with China. I mean, we're just so enmeshed in them,

1460
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.640
and I don't know that we'll ever be able to

1461
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:16.600
decouple from them because we still have a big problem

1462
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:20.039
that's never been resolved Scott, and it's called COVID.

1463
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:23.239
Yes, yeah, yeah, and other things as well.

1464
01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:24.680
But you're right, you're right.

1465
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.279
But you know, China is one of the largest Christian

1466
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:31.359
nations in the world.

1467
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:35.760
The church's underground and underground. I was going to say underground, yes,

1468
01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:36.880
but it's real.

1469
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:39.880
I mean, the underground church is more vibrant and more

1470
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:43.600
you know, you know, more near and dear to God,

1471
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.199
with the presence of the Holy Spirit. That we don't

1472
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.199
know what's what the future is, but it could be

1473
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:53.760
a very powerful spiritual revival that grows in China and

1474
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:58.079
transforms China. Wouldn't that be wonderful? That's what's happening in Iran.

1475
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:01.960
By the way, Yes, you know, there's only about two

1476
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:05.279
million Christians in Iran out of a population of some

1477
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:08.000
ninety ninety or ninety two million, So it's it's a

1478
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:12.319
small base. But the Iranian Christian Church is growing faster

1479
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.239
than any other church in the world is growing. It

1480
01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:19.159
has about a twenty percent growth rate, right, So that means.

1481
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:22.439
Well, it's the power of light, yeah versus darkness.

1482
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:22.840
Yeah.

1483
01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:24.840
Yeah, you know, it doesn't take a whole lot of

1484
01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:28.880
light to penetrate darkness. And when it does, the contrast

1485
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:30.199
is so evident.

1486
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:34.000
Right, Oh, absolutely. I mean when you compare you know

1487
01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:36.720
what you know, what Jesus taught and what Jesus would

1488
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:41.840
have us do in terms of human relationships, you compare

1489
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:46.079
it to what the Muslims do in practice, and it's

1490
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:48.920
it's it is a stark night and day difference.

1491
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:50.680
You know.

1492
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:56.119
We we affirm women, women have rights. We you know,

1493
01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:00.479
we don't believe in forcing people to believe in Christian sanity.

1494
01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:04.640
We but we do evangelize and we invite people to

1495
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:09.960
discover the truth in scripture, to discover the Savior, and

1496
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:14.039
and and and once discovered, why would you live your

1497
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:16.840
life separately from the Savior. You want the Savior part

1498
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:19.119
of your life. So this is how we that's how

1499
01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:22.359
we proselytize. We do it.

1500
01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:26.840
It's a lifestyle evangelism. Hopefully that we're representing Jesus in

1501
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.600
such a way that it's an invitation for people to say,

1502
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.640
you know, Scott, I want what you got.

1503
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:37.880
That's right, right, right, right, it's so easily attainable. You know.

1504
01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.439
All the other religions of the world are based on works. Yeah,

1505
01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:45.680
the Muslim religion is very much based on works. Christianity

1506
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:49.520
is unique in all of human history and being the

1507
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:52.159
you know, the truth of God that is not based

1508
01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:55.439
on works. It is based on the Savior who stood

1509
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:59.439
in our place where sinners. He stood in our place,

1510
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:03.720
took on all our sin and died for us in

1511
01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:07.640
order to forgive us, in order to facilitate a relationship

1512
01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:08.039
with God.

1513
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:10.880
It's so simple, exactly well. You know, as was brought

1514
01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:12.560
out in the movie A Great Awakening, you and I

1515
01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:16.399
talked about, there's no other religion, there's no other source

1516
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:19.920
for liberty. That's right from God. God is the source

1517
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:22.840
of liberty, and that's what our very soul cries out for.

1518
01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:25.239
We got to leave it there, Scott Powell, he is

1519
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:27.239
the author member of the Committee on This Present Danger

1520
01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:29.920
China and a senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute. God

1521
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has always appreciate the time and insight take care of

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my friend.

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Hey, welcome back to America. Great to have you with us.

1590
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Sub Bill Martinez. For more information on the show, you

1591
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can go to Bill Martinez Live dot com. You know

1592
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this is a color rectal cancer Awareness month, and with

1593
01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:23.640
that in mind, you need to be aware that it

1594
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:27.319
is the second Colorrectal cancer is the second leading cause

1595
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.000
of cancer death in the United States and the leading

1596
01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:33.680
cause for adults under fifty. Yet, many Americans are delaying

1597
01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:38.680
or skipping life saving colonoscopies because of unexpected out of

1598
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pocket costs for essential preparation medications. Well, despite federal law

1599
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requiring preventive screenings to be fully covered, eighty three percent

1600
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:50.239
of patients still pay for these medications. The effectiveness of

1601
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:55.960
a colonoscopy depends on proper preparation. Inadequate preparation can lead

1602
01:25:56.039 --> 01:26:00.000
to miss polyps, repeat procedures, or delayed diagnosis, putting paid

1603
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:03.880
lives at risk. Here to tell us more about it

1604
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:07.479
is doctor Eric Shaw doctor Shaw. Welcome Michelle. Good to

1605
01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:08.760
have you with us.

1606
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:10.560
Thank you Bill for having me.

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01:26:11.239 --> 01:26:14.800
Well, this is important, needless to say when you consider

1608
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that color rector cancer is responsible for the second leading

1609
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cause of deaths here in our country. And you say

1610
01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:27.920
that screening cancer screening is so critical, especially for younger adults.

1611
01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:33.960
Right absolutely, the screening age changed from fifty up to

1612
01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:38.159
forty five and up just recently to get a colonoscopy.

1613
01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:40.880
This is for patients who don't have a family history

1614
01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:44.439
of colon cancer. And we're also seeing many other patients

1615
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:47.960
who are under forty five who have rectal bleeding, change

1616
01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:50.479
in bowel habits. You know, it's not just hemorrhoids, not

1617
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something to brush off. It's time to go talk to

1618
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your doctor and get in.

1619
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:58.319
Yeah, if you have these indications, forget about your age,

1620
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:00.159
you need to get screened.

1621
01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:04.079
Right absolutely, And that bowel prep is the thing that

1622
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:06.720
stands in the way for a lot of people, over

1623
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:09.560
half of people that get a positive at home test.

1624
01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:11.560
And you know we do see these at home test

1625
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:16.680
uh commercials on TV, on the radio and UH. When

1626
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:19.560
patients have a positive test, that means there's there's something

1627
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.960
to be concerned about over half don't complete that follow

1628
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.079
up colonoscopy within a year, and a lot of it has.

1629
01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:27.239
It comes down to that prep.

1630
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:32.520
Right, well, uh, exactly, and why are patients being charged

1631
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:36.439
for preparation medications? And how are costs affecting whether people

1632
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:37.159
get screened?

1633
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:40.920
You know? And that's the funny thing. They're not supposed

1634
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:46.359
to be charged. So the CMS charges that patients are

1635
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:50.560
supposed to have a screening colonoscopy within their insurance plans.

1636
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.840
That's within Medicare, Medicaid and commercial insurers. Patients are supposed

1637
01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:57.760
to have access to colon cancer screening to be able

1638
01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:00.920
to get screening done. This is a preventable key answer, okay.

1639
01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:06.079
And what's unfortunately happened is that insurance companies right now

1640
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:10.920
are steering patients to outdated, harder to tolerate bowel preparation options.

1641
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:15.199
Patients aren't even being offered choices when it comes to

1642
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:18.159
what bowel prep they could do. There are did you

1643
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:22.760
know their newer, modern FDA approved low volume options that

1644
01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.560
patients should be able to talk to their doctors about

1645
01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:27.760
that patients simply they don't even know about, They don't

1646
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:32.000
hear about, and the insurance companies aren't covering.

1647
01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:35.239
Well, doctor Shaw. Once again, we're reminded by your statement

1648
01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:39.119
here that we are our own best advocate, or you know,

1649
01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:43.079
maybe it's a spouse that comes alongside as well to

1650
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:46.680
ask these questions. So I trust that our listeners are

1651
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:50.319
taking notes on this, because you know, you don't know,

1652
01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:54.560
and if you don't ask right, you.

1653
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:56.880
Know exactly, and if you don't know, you know, you

1654
01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.880
might just be staring down a gallon jug, which is

1655
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:04.279
sort of what the gastroinrologists and primary care docs used

1656
01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:08.760
to just routinely prescribe. Many cases still do. Many patients

1657
01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:12.079
get pushed into the over the counter aisle, and you

1658
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:15.199
know that's that's where the patients have to pay everything.

1659
01:29:15.319 --> 01:29:18.079
You know, so the insurance company doesn't complain about that

1660
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.520
their patients aren't getting offered the newer the newer preps

1661
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:24.479
that are FDA approved, that meet medical standards that are

1662
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.960
out there, or even they don't hear about them.

1663
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:29.439
Can you unpack that a little bit more of these

1664
01:29:29.439 --> 01:29:31.600
newer preps that are available, because we've been hearing more

1665
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:33.439
and more about this and I want our audience to

1666
01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:34.439
be aware, doctor Shaw.

1667
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:38.000
Yeah, so there are newer preps that either come in

1668
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:40.640
a pill form, or they come in two small bottles.

1669
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:44.840
Rather than having to drink the large glass of water,

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large glass of prep every ten minutes, it's two small bottles.

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01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:52.479
And you know what's important is patients with those preps

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01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:54.920
still have to drink an adequate amount of water. So

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01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:56.960
it does have instructions on the prep of how to

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01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:59.960
do it, but the amount of volume is a lot

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less than what it used to be with the newer preparations.

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01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:06.600
And I think what frustrates a lot of us is

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that we see patients saying, you know, I'll just put

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this off. I'll do it next year. And to your point,

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01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:13.880
you know, I think that the partner of the loved one,

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01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:19.600
the spouse, is really you know, it's really important to

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01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:21.840
to to really help the help our patients, help help

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the public get in for this screening test that you know,

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01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:27.520
toling cancer is preventable. You just have to come on

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in and get screened, you.

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Know, doctor shaw Uh. You know, I'm glad that they're

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lowering the age. In fact, I was surprised they stopped

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at forty five. I remember when I first read that,

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I said, why, why, why they're why didn't they you know,

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might as well, just go to forty uh in terms

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of as as a warning because as we know, it's

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all about you know, with anything cancer, you know, the

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earlier the better when you find out about it, right, Yeah, you.

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Know, and I think a lot of us have that

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same question too. You know that if you have a

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US that can find early legions that are small a

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decade before a patient has a chance to even get cancer,

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so patients stay cancer free. That's ideal. I wish we

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had the type that type of test for all cancers,

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01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:17.239
you know, we don't, but we do for colon cancer.

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And and so that's where this this prep issue really

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really comes into play.

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Well exactly, we're talking with doctor Eric Shaw, and he's

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the gastro entrologist at the University of Michigan and an

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associate professor in gastro Enterology and Hepatology and director of

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the Michigan Medicine GI Physiology Laboratories. They're testing my ability

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to say some of these words, doctor Shaw. Hopefully I

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passed the test.

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Okay, you totally did our You know, the core of

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what we do is colon cancer screening. So you know,

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for all those thank you for all those nice things.

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01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:55.520
It's really about taking care of patients, making sure that

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we get our colon cancer screening done. That is by

1713
01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:01.439
far and away the demo gratifying part of this job.

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01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:05.760
Well, and as you said, a critical aspect of a

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colonoscopy is preparation.

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Right, yes, So about prep means that a patient will

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have to clear the colon out of all the stool

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01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:18.439
and all the debris so that the doctor can see

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01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:23.560
what they're doing and make sure with confidence that there

1720
01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:25.960
are no polyps, there are no cancers in there, there's

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01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:29.760
nothing to worry about. And a clean colonoscopy means a

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01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:33.000
patient can go a decade ten years if there's no

1723
01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:37.079
family history and no other warning signs, no polyps, you know,

1724
01:32:37.199 --> 01:32:40.520
normal colonoscopy. Typically patients go every ten years for those.

1725
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:42.800
So you know, once you get in and get it done,

1726
01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:46.039
it really takes the load off after that. And so

1727
01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:48.439
but getting in is the key. That's how we find

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01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:50.239
these cancers, right.

1729
01:32:51.680 --> 01:32:55.680
You know, again, the sense of urgency about a colonoscopy

1730
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:59.520
and color rectal cancer has increased in such a way

1731
01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:04.039
that you know, this year, Congress past the Consolidated Appropriations

1732
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:06.840
Act of twenty twenty six, which urges the Centers for

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01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:11.159
Medicare and Medical Services to clarify that patients should have

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01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:15.840
access to all FDA approved bowel preparations, right.

1735
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.239
You know, and I'll finish on this. That CMS runs

1736
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:25.039
Medicare and Medicaid at the federal level, they also commercial

1737
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:29.079
insurance plans to follow what they say, and you know,

1738
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:33.000
CMS just needs to issue a guidance that would prevent

1739
01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.640
patients from being steered to outdated, harder to tolerate options

1740
01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:40.159
and to treat bowel prep as part of this screening

1741
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:44.880
benefit that all patients are entitled to with their insurance plans,

1742
01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:48.319
not as an optional add on. And so this is

1743
01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:51.960
the time to contact your electric representatives that are in

1744
01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:54.800
office and your senators to urge CMS to do this.

1745
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:59.039
Congress and the President passed a law that encouraged CMS

1746
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:02.039
to do this. They need your help. So contacting your

1747
01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:06.119
elected representatives, that's what the ASGE is asking for. And

1748
01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:09.880
to learn more about this, visit a SGE dot org

1749
01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:14.760
that's American Society for gastro Intestinal Dascopy ASGE dot org

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to learn more.

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Well, doctor Shaw, why is CMS delaying on this? I

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01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:23.479
mean the responsibility you know for Medicare patients and Medicaid.

1753
01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:26.319
You know patients and the services that they offer, you

1754
01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:29.720
would think that just a natural reaction would be, uh,

1755
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:31.800
you know, to get this information out.

1756
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:35.840
That is the question, and so that is the question

1757
01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:40.439
that patients and advocates should ask of their elected representatives

1758
01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:44.119
to ask CMS to please please close this loophole. And

1759
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:47.119
why has this not been done already? And exactly, Bill,

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01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:48.760
I really want to thank you for your time.

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01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.239
Okay, thank you so much, Doctor Shaw. I appreciate it.

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the ministry leader and author and former NFLQB Heymous. Jeff,

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you just got back from another marriage intensive hun.

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Yeah, Stacy and I just came back from Kalamazoo, Michigan

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with two hundred couples for the weekend to remember put

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on back in the life. We speak about four times

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a year at those. But it's amazing Bill to see couples.

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There were some in there with divorce papers already signed.

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There were couples that were not sitting together on the

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first day. There was a woman that came without her husband.

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There were couples that were struggling. There were couples that

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were fine and wanting a refresher, and there were a

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couple engaged in brand new couples that were getting off

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to a great start. And it was a really amazing,

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excellent weekend focusing on God's beautiful gift, the institutional marriage

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and the work it takes to make it shine.

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When you have such a diverse group like that, how

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do you tree two hundred couples to where you help

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them in the area of their specific need.

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That's a great question. I think they know when they

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come to the weekend, and remember, they're not going to

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get personal counseling like they would at the marriage intensives

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that you know Bob Paul was talking about with the

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counselor and four couples by the same token, they're wanting

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to hear a message of realism and hope and a

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couple guiding principles for how to start getting back together.

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All right, they will get prayed for by individual Prayer

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Team volunteers who are there if they asked. Secondly, that

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team's been praying for them by name for months ever

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since they registered. But the flow of the event is

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on Friday. We remind everyone that everyone has a dream

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to be happy, to be joyful in essence, to be one.

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That's the goal for marriage is oneness. That's God's nature,

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father son, spirit in one relationship of unity. But we

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drift toward isolation. So we talk about that we all

1873
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face the dream, but we all face the threats of

1874
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our selfishness internally. Externally, the world and work and lies

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and deception and social media temptation are pulling you away,

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an invisible threat that's Satan. He wants to break up

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marriages and he wants to get you to point the

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finger instead of look at your own issues. So we

1879
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let them know that everyone goes through this kind of

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loss of the dream because of these threats. But then

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you need to regain God's dream for marriage, not your dream.

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We want to be happily ever after and have an easy,

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cozy life, but God knows that marriage is meant to

1884
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conform you more to the image of Christ, crush your

1885
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:57.079
selfishness out and it glorifies Him, and it has a

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purpose larger than you. It's a blessing to your children

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into other couples. So then we'll move into how to

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communicate safely, how to talk through, how to forgive through

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the power of God, how to rebuild trust over time,

1890
01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:16.880
and accountability. We talk about marital intimacy and how many

1891
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things compromise that before marriage and in society, including pornography,

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01:42:22.159 --> 01:42:24.960
and that there are very clear ways to heal from

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that and you're not the only one with that problem.

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And the speakers like Stacy and myself, part of the

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01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:33.279
triage is we let them know that we're imperfect and

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01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:36.079
we've had struggles, and they need to know that they're

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01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:39.439
not alone and you're not the only one, and people

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have recovered from that before, So by Sunday, I think

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they see that it's a long journey. This moment doesn't

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determine the future. And God is bigger than they realize.

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And if they turn to him and draw upon him

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and his power and the Holy Spirit's influence, he can

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forgive any sin, He could turn around any hurt. He

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can turn a troubled marriage into a marriage and blesses others.

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Yeah, hopefully when they leave they have a battle plan

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against the against the evil one, not against one another,

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but against against the evil one that wants to break

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up their marriages. You know. One of the takeaways, key

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takeaways for me, particularly this Lenten season, Jeff, has been

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that when you consider the pattern and what God was

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calling for during this Lenten season, it was the the

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elimination of corruption. That God wants to have a connection

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with us, and in order to have a connection, we

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have to get rid of those impurities, all kinds of

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things like you mentioned, you know, wounds that we've had,

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maybe no fault of our own, maybe as a child.

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I mean, there could be hereditary wounds, you know, on

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and on, but you can't get to that point on

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your own that you really need to come before a

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holy God to be you know, to have your eyes

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open so that you know what you're dealing with. Because

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sometimes in relationships, as you know, in marriages, you know,

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as the Psalmist wrote about, sometimes it's those unknown sins,

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those things that we don't perceive that are there, they're

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getting in the way that are corrupting and interfering with

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that ability to connect with the Holy God. But God

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needs to refine as to where there can be that connection,

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right Yeah.

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I mean, we'll never eliminate all of our sin, and

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you don't eliminate all of the consequences of someone's sin

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against you, trauma, sexual abuse in the past. You'll make

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mistakes in the future, but you can be fully forgiven

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for your sin, and you can forgive the person who

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has sinned against you. And what that does is it

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sets you free from something that Satan uses as a

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stronghold to bond to, you know, put you in bondage

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to living in the past, living in anger, and that

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separates you from your heavenly Father and from other people

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because you're stuck with a negative mindset. So I think

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you talked about what are the things that the Lentin

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season helps purify us from mention, wounds and traumas from

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our past caused by others. And that comes from forgiveness,

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all right, even if they don't change, we forgive them

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and don't want to punish them anymore. Secondly, realizing that

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God was with you in that moment and he loves you,

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and you're not rejected and abandoned just because something terrible happened.

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To you exactly.

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And then it's the individual selfishness and the various sins

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that come from your pride and selfishness and defensiveness and

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angry words and the compromises that you've made that you

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can be forgiven of. But when you diagnose these things

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and get them in the open and talk about them,

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that's why people go to counselors. But I've been encouraging people,

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with your help, go build two friendships who you can

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talk to this stuff, talk to with you know about

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this stuff every week. When you when you diagnose what's

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going on, God can heal it. It's like that's the

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beginning of the healing. You got to know what it

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is first. So the Bible says, search me and know me, Lord, well,

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we ought to also search ourselves and where we're stuck

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with sin or wounds of the past and let them go.

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You said something funny about you need a battle plan,

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but not against each other. In marriage, we actually have

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the couples turned to each other at one point did

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this and she said, say to your spouse, you are

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not my enemy. And everyone in the audience says that

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because we fall into this darn pattern where we think

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our spouse is our enemy.

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We're on the same team, Jeffy, you know, you know

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team sports, right, I mean, just what you'd like to

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do is have somebody alongside you, somebody you know, on

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the offensive line, you know, not being on your team,

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you know, right.

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Practically speaking, when Stace and I get into a yucky

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argument like we've gotten into before all usually it's a

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little thing that we exaggerate and we dig in our heels, right.

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We don't like the other person's style, so we complain

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about it. She'll stop me sometimes, and sometimes I'm good

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to stop myself, and she'll say, wait a minute, the

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enemy is attacking us and trying to divide us, and

1981
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let's just pray. And then I'll just say a quick

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prayer and say, God, you know, help us here, defeat

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the enemy and get us back on the same team

1984
01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:41.439
very quickly. That turns it around. And I heard any husband,

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01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:46.359
any wife listening to call a time out when the

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beginning of a conflict or a frustration or a negative

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01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:53.800
thing between the two of you happens, and just say, Hey,

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God's enemy is trying to divide us. Let's pray real quick,

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help us out here, get rid of the enemy. That

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will change the rest of the trajectory.

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Right.

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And the thing is is that it sounds easy, you know,

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hearing Jeff talk about it right now, But you understand

1994
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this takes practice because our flesh is such that it

1995
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always stubbornly wants its own way. But until you do

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it God's way, and you continue to do it God's

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way and realize the results of it, then you know

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later on, you know, five years down the road or whenever,

1999
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when you realize, you go, God, why did we wait

2000
01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:30.840
so long? Right?

2001
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You know, we quoted Jesus and this might have been

2002
01:48:34.399 --> 01:48:39.199
using his exact context a little differently than he meant it,

2003
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.640
but I think it applies to everything Jesus said. With man,

2004
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this is impossible, but with God all things are possible. Yes, Well,

2005
01:48:46.479 --> 01:48:49.880
marriage is so difficult to get along all the time,

2006
01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:54.239
you know, to merge two very different personalities. It's impossible

2007
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.720
to live in perfect harmony. And for some couples they

2008
01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:00.920
might think it's impossible for us to stay together. With God,

2009
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all things are possible. But that means you have to

2010
01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:07.600
be with God and build You and I are always

2011
01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:10.960
talking about how can we be more with God than

2012
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:14.159
we were yesterday or last year. And that has a

2013
01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:19.399
lot to do with humility, that says God, I didn't

2014
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invent myself. I didn't create this world.

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You did.

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I can't live and make it on my own.

2017
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I need you.

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I have messed up, so please forgive me. Now, help

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me do the thing that works, which is the way

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01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:37.680
Jesus would have lived. That's being with God so that

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01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:42.880
all things are possible. Being loving, being forgiving, persevering, overcoming

2022
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:47.119
an infidelity, getting out of an addiction of any sort,

2023
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:51.000
being generous when you worried that you won't have enough money,

2024
01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:55.840
but giving. Let's go of fear anyway, exactly with God,

2025
01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:56.840
all things are possible.

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01:49:57.760 --> 01:50:00.680
And God says, hey, you can ask me for wisdom.

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I will not hold it against you. Right, he loves it.

2028
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He freely gives us that wisdom that we ask for.

2029
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:10.000
And also I would say to you that we're also

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01:50:10.039 --> 01:50:12.359
reminded in this word that we should pray for one

2031
01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:17.039
another that we would be healed. You know, yes, And

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01:50:17.560 --> 01:50:20.520
it talks about a confessing of our sins, you know,

2033
01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:23.319
to one another, having that group, that core group, or

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01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:25.079
you know a couple of people that you can go

2035
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:28.319
to that can respect and honor what it is to

2036
01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:34.359
share something so personal and deep about your relationship that

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01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:38.520
they are trustworthy. And again, in time you will find

2038
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:41.960
those people that you can trust and that they can

2039
01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.039
trust you, and that you will support one another through

2040
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:49.079
through these valleys of the shadow of death that we

2041
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:51.199
will go through there inevitable, right Jeff.

2042
01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:56.119
Yeah, Well, if you want to go fast, you can

2043
01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:58.920
go alone, but if you want to go far, you

2044
01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:01.039
need to go together. And what you just said is

2045
01:51:01.159 --> 01:51:04.760
we need good friends to help us be the person

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01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:07.279
we need to be to make our marriages and families work.

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01:51:07.640 --> 01:51:09.560
And a lot of folks were thinking, I don't have

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01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:14.119
those trustworthy friends. And I believe that God will help

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01:51:14.199 --> 01:51:18.600
us know who to build friendship with, how to build

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01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:21.199
friendship and trust with them and then stay in touch

2051
01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:23.760
with them to say this is what I need to confess.

2052
01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:26.640
Please pray for me, or I'll pray for you. That's

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01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:30.680
the main focus of my ministry with men in particular,

2054
01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:34.319
though women gain great benefit from the friendship tools. So

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01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:37.600
I urge anyone to say, I want strong friendships, and

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01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:41.319
I'm going to take steps to build that confidentiality, that trust,

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01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:44.399
the mutual purpose of what our friendship is, and then

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I'm going to stay in touch with this best friend

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01:51:47.560 --> 01:51:50.079
every week to talk about how I'm doing in life.

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Women need a best friend, women, men need a best friend,

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01:51:53.600 --> 01:51:55.000
man or a couple exactly.

2062
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:56.680
Well, we got to leave it there. Where can they

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01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:57.439
go to get in touch?

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01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:01.960
Yeah, well I'd go to Core three Coaching dot com.

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Corethreecoaching dot com and they'll get my weekly text to

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build this strong, deep friendship. And that's also available at

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Jeff kempteam dot com.

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When you say core three the number three.

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Yep, core core three the numergery. It's a text every week,

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it's free, it's not complicated. It'll encourage you in building

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your friendships. Core Threecoaching dot com.

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Jeff cam You're awesome, Thank you so much. For being

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with us. Take care, God bless my friend.

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Thanks Bill.

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