Jan. 12, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 01 12 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 12 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 01 12 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah?

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OK, do it?

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, six minutes after the top of the hour.

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Right now, Bill Martinez here with the infamous Joe Freed.

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Hey, Joe, Happy New Year to you. Good to see

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you again, save to you.

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Nice to see it.

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Well, of course, said Joe is the infamous author of

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Debunked and how Elections Are Stolen?

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And uh, and we've got some more information.

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You know.

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First of all, you know, it seems like Minnesota is

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in the crosshairs right now, and rightfully so, I mean,

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there's something going on in Minnesota. They might feel like

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Charlie Brown is saying, why is everybody picking on me? Well, well,

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number one, because you're pickable and you've you know, you've

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made a lot of mistakes here, and now you're being

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forced to own up to it.

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Right, that's right.

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I've never heard that pickable before, but that's a good word.

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To keep in mind.

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This is a story that actually has been out there

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for it's been in effect for ten years, but nobody

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seemed to know about it, and finally somebody brought it

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to the attention of voters just a couple of weeks ago,

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and I have to admit I didn't know about it.

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Minnesota is not a traditional swing state. My focus has

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always been on the swing states. I'm not shocked when

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I saw this, so I added my spin to it.

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But here's the basic story. In Minnesota, this is really incredible.

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On election day, a person can a registered voter, legit

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legitimately registered in Minnesota and vote and vouch for eight

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additional voters to get them registered in voting right on election.

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Day, same day, same day, same day, right.

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Which means and by the way, these extra eight people

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don't necessarily have to even show ID that's preferred, but

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you know, they have a little form and the forum

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says do you have driver's license? You have Social Security?

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And then the last box says, I don't have any

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addacent Oh you still vote?

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You know.

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I got a job and none none of the above

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multiple choice option right right.

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So as long as you have somebody vouching for you,

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I mean, can you imagine how professional uh political pundits

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and advocates could boost their vote? You can mag the ties.

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You can mag boost your own vote by up to

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eight fold with this law, it's crazy. Keep in mind

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that happens on election day, when there's no time, no

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possible way anybody can verify anything. Yes, once the envelope

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is is opened, for example, if it's a mail in,

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once it's or or once the person makes the vote,

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there's no way to ever retrieve those. It doesn't matter

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what state you're in, by the way, because always the

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identity is separated from the ballot itself. So let's say

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we're back in voting for Biden and Trump. Once these

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people vouch on election day and they've now been permitted

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to vote, it's done. You could the only way. How

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many times in your life can you remember when an

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election was actually a judge actually said this election is

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so bad that we're going to have a new election.

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Then hardly.

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I don't know that I've ever in my lifetime. I

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don't recall that ever happening. I mean on a federal level, certainly.

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Right on a federal level, I can't recall it. So

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that's the problem you can't have. That's why we had

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rules before. And I think what a lot of people

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miss is that the majority of cheating happens before the election. Actually,

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when you take out the rules. We had rules like registering,

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say thirty days in advance of the election. That's so

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people can check out it. Of course, there's some states

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require ID. Some states don't require any real ID. There

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were special COVID procedures that some states did. Some states,

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like Michigan in twenty twenty didn't check signatures, nor did

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Georgia County Fulton. They didn't check signatures. So all those

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are the rules to increase the integrity of the election.

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And when you attack the rules, that's where the fraud

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really takes place, because once the vote is made, nobody

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can do anything about it, nobody to reprove anything. So

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that's the problem. Now there's a variation on this that

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makes it even worse. It isn't just that any old

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registered voter can go and bring eight people along. An

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employee of a nursing home. Any employee could be a custodian.

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It could be the CEO of a nursing home, of

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assisted living, or a veteran's home, all sorts of others.

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He can vouch for anybody. He can say, look, there's

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twenty people here. I have a list of twenty people

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who are in this nursing home, and I can vouch

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for them all, and all of.

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Them could be comatose, but he's vouching for him.

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That's right. So it's a horrible story. I wasn't aware

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of it. I hope that something will be done about it,

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but you know, this is Minnesota. They're not going to

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do anything unless the federal government puts pressure. Now, the

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good news is the federal government is putting pressure. I

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have a lot of confidence in the Trump administration to

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start pushing for the rules Chaine.

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Yeah, well, what about the populace though, Joe, This has

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to be an organic movement that starts at the bottom,

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where you know, the people wake up and realize this

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is the government of four by we the people. We're

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relying too much on our representatives to misrepresent us. This

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is why we're thirty eight trillion in debt and why

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we have all this craziness going on about voter fraud.

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Yeah, well, I agree, You've got to get motivated. You know,

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what are the problems is there's so many stories right now. Yeah, Bill,

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it's hard to even get attention for this. I mean,

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we've got Venezuela, we got the shooting right now, we've

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got the Minnesota Somali frauds.

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I mean, and you got California getting ready to bust

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out to I mean, we're looking at what are they

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saying as much as what is it, nine billion, nine

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billion dollars of fraud there in Minnesota, just in little Somalia. Yeah,

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and you got to know, this is the tip of

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the iceberg. And they're talking California. It could be in

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excess of two hundred billion dollars of fraud.

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Oh man, it's crazy. So what I'm saying is you're saying, well,

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the grassroots has to rise up, but there's a lot

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to distract people right now. I mean it's like a

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full time job watching the news that night.

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Oh, no question, yes, yeah, yeah.

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But the deal is is, meanwhile, you know, we're being misrepresented,

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we're being stolen blind and here we are thirty eight

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trillion dollars in debt and counting, and.

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You know, you and even you know.

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You would think that DC and our politicians there would

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be yelling and screaming.

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But you know, I'm observing who's quiet.

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Yeah, well, you're right, and it's disappointing that that's some

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of the people in Congress aren't rising up and doing

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more about it. But I have to say that the

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Trump administration there, I don't know how they keep up.

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I mean they must be working twenty four hours, because.

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Well, Donald Trump is a is a one armed paperhanger.

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I mean, he's he's on steroids and they can't keep

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up with him. And the deal is is that he

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in a sense. I mean, this is what leadership does, Joe,

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as you know, it leads the way, and Donald Trump

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is leading the way. He's dragging these rhinos and some

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of these you know, milky toast to Republicans and even

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some of these Democrats. He's dragging them along saying hey,

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look it. I mean, this is so obviously common sensical

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and so right, and just on behalf of the American people.

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Is that, you know, you look like you're complicit in

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all the evil and fraud that's going on if you

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don't take a stand.

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Right well, you know, and related to that is this

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issue of the filibuster. Trump is right in my opinion, Look,

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it's nice to have a filibuster if both sides respect it.

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But the Democrats already proved, they prove that they're ready

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to scrap it because they already tried. I mean, what

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do you need? How much do you need? So the

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Republicans out of just white the bullets have to fill

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a buster. Pass things one after another. Maybe do it

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and do what you can.

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Right now, we got to go to quick break. We've

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got more from Joe after this. Stay with us.

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They are Bill Martins here with Joe Freed, one of

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America's top CPA auditors.

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He knows the numbers, he can add, he can take

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away old style, new style. And this is what we

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love about him because you know, the thing is is

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that when you do the numbers right, they do right

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by you, don't they Joe absolutely.

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Well, you know, we were just talking about Minnesota before

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the break. But the other story that's really important maybe

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gotten more attention. It's to Georgia, Fulton County, Georgia election fraud,

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right and what happened? You know, it's interesting. In my book,

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which was published three years ago, I have a line

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about three hundred and over three hundred thousand votes that

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didn't have any parentage, so to speak. Where did they

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come from? They weren't signed, The poll workers didn't sign

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anything to show. Not a single poll worker signed.

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This is in Georgia alone.

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We're not talking We're not talking Philadelphia, I mean Pennsylvania.

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We're just talking Georgia, right.

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We're actually just talking Fulton County.

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Fulton County.

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Fulton County is massive, over five hundred thousand people voted

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in it. It's the largest county in the state. It

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swings the whole state. This state only had Georgia. If

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I recall was like around ten thousand, eleven thousand votes

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in total, but five hundred thousand more than the five

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hundred thousand come from Fulton. Very blue, over seventy five

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percent blue. And that state is the corruption is fantastic.

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But anyway, I was saying, I had it in my book.

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It was already published in older places. But what happened

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that's different. The reason this story broke all these years

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later is because finally, when Fulton County was pressed in

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discovery because there's still legal cases going on, and they said,

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you have to present these receipts to show who signed

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off on these three hundred and fifteen thousand votes, they

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finally put up their hands and say, we don't have them.

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They never existed. Well, all of a sudden, you see

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the mistake they made you never admit it because the Democrats,

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as long as they don't admit it, people like Joe

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Freed and others were conspiracy theorists exactly, and that's all

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the media says, Oh Joe, he's right. Conspiracies. But now

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all of a sudden, the mainstream media has sort of

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even mentioned this to an extent, mostly in the right

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wing though, but they all of a sudden had to

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acknowledge this is the real story, because it's been acknowledged

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by Fulton County. But there's a lot more than just that.

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I mean, there's other things that make this so corrupt,

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and these are the things that they haven't acknowledged yet.

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But I'm hoping that these will be discovered soon. There's

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reasons to be optimistic. First of all, one of the

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things I've calculated you were talking about the numbers don't lie. Well,

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the rejection rate in Georgia was the lowest of the

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fifty states. Okay, that's Georgia, of the whole state. But

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then now go to the single county of Fulton. Fulton

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County had a rejection rate one seventh of the state.

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Now do you know what this I did the statistics

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on that do you know what the odds when you

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have five hundred thousand voters here, imagine that you're flipping.

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Bill Martinez flips a coin five hundred thousand times and

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he comes out fifty percent, had fifty percent tails. Joe

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Fried flips it. It's sixty forty. The odds of that

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being a coincidence happening, Well, for this, it's one less

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than one in a billion. It is not possible. Yes,

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Fulton County, if they used the same system of verifying

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signatures that it could happen. It's impossible. Well, then we

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got the truth two and a half years after the election,

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two and a half years and not my book, because

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this is the way after the election. One of the

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people on the board, Mark wouldn't get I believe it

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was acknowledged. He said, I talked to people in the

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board and they said, we didn't do signature matching. You see,

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you can't, you don't. You won't reject the ballot if

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you never look at the ballot, if you exactly it

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could be Mickey Mouse signing it and you're still a

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good ballot.

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Right.

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So when again a very close election, and with a

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very close election that happens, it's it's disgusting.

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Right.

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There's also and look at how much trouble Donald Trump got.

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Oh yeah because of it, right.

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Oh, they made a big deal. In fact, I saw

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Jack Smith on YouTube the other day and he's saying,

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how oh you know how Trump said, I need you

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to find eleven thousand ballots. You know, yeah, he left

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out that right before he said that. He went through

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about three hundred thousand ballots, and he said, we're owed.

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He said, but don't worry about that. Basically he said,

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saying that we win the election with just eleven thousand,

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so just find the eleven thousand, right exactly. Then they

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try to say, oh, look he wants to fabricate new votes.

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Now this is cheating. You know, this is proof, you know,

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so we have that. But there's so many issues I

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can't even tell you them all. There's another one that's interesting.

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People may not know watching this that Fulton County is

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subject to a ten thousand dollars per day fine because

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it refuses the seat two Republicans onto its board of elections.

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So they have a small board of elections. Two of

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them are supposed to buy law be from the Republicans,

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you know, the leading the party that wins gets most

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of them. The party that loses, the Republicans in Fulton County,

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gets two, and they refuse and a court has reviewed

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already admit the court and these people who believe in

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democracy apparently don't believe in the judiciary because the judge

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said you must do it, and no, we're not going

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to do it. And they don't seem to care the

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ten thousand it's going to come out of somebody's pockets,

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but they don't care whether they're appealing it. Maybe they'll win,

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but I really doubted. I've studied. I put a posting

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up on my subject. The law is so clear. I

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don't know how they possibly get around it, to think,

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but they're doing what Nancy Pelosi did. If you remember

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Nancy Pelosi with the j sixth Committee, her committee used

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the seat and that was frankly the Republicans.

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That was unprecedented because the Republican leadership always has to

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say in these hyper committees, and she said, nah, I

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don't think so.

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And I don't know if the Republicans handled that the

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best way, because then they had a year or two

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of constant propaganda coming out of that committee with no

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checks and balances, and that's what Fulton's trying to duplicate

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on this level. They're trying to do what Nancy Pelosi

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did on the national level. So that's just another thing.

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Now they're appealing it. But like I said, I don't

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think they have a chance of winning that. Let me

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see what else. Oh yeah, there's the five year ballance.

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Believe it or not, nobody has been able to inspect

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Fulton County's ballots, the actual paper ballots five years. What

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happened is on in December of twenty twenty, right after

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the election, six different people step forward to say these

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look like fake ballance, I mean really fake. They were

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mail in ballots that had to be mailed in a mailer.

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But there's no folding, no crease, no nothing are right.

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It looks like Toner. The signatures look body, they look

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like it was they were printed right.

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And so yeah, because even even the markings on the

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dot right was all consistent.

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Everything was wrong. So Garland Favorrido, who heads up he's

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the founder of voter Ga, a nonprofit. It's very sophisticated.

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He's been he filed a suit and he had to

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go all the way to the Georgia Supreme Court. They

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said Garland Favrude has standing, he has to be allowed

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to see these. That was like over a year ago.

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They just refuse. This is a lawless county. It's a corrupt,

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lawless county. They don't seem to care. They'll spend their

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taxpayer money to keep everybody, anybody seated on that board.

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They'll fight in the courts, and they're still fighting. It's

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about to have another hearing in this month of January,

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so we'll see what happens.

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But well maybe maybe you know, the fans made Trump

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again here too, has got to withhold federal funds and

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say look at if you're not going to get your

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act together, you know, because he's utilizing that instrument and

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it's starting to have some impact in some of these

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blue states especially.

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Well, I know we might be a short time, so

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I just let me just mention two other things real quick.

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Okay, we got forty seconds.

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I don't know how fast.

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All right, I'll get you forty seconds worth, just to

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show you how phony this county is. Four thousand of

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their ballots, the images had the identical date for the scanning,

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which is impossible. I mean identical to the split second.

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Not possible. Sixteen thousand were tampered with, obviously because the

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files have been corrupted so that the normally the shaw

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SHA integrity file is produced at the same time as

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the image. These came hours or days later. They were added.

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This is a corrupt county and that's why they won't

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let anybody see those ballots. They're fighting to the end.

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Yeah.

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Well that's the old saying. You never give up the

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con and they're not going to do that. That's what

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they say in prison. You just the criminals, never give

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up the con. Joe Fred has always we appreciate the inside,

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then look forward to continuing the conversation in this coming year.

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Uh.

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He's the author of Debunked and How Elections Are Stolen.

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Hey, welcome back, Bill Martinez here with the John Zamarrick.

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Hey, John, how you doing. I'm happy to be there

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you too, Hey.

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Lots of things going on, But if you don't mind,

510
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can we look back?

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You know?

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I know always the first of the year is one

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where we want to look forward. But I always say

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you have to look back before you go forward, because

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it's always good to review.

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00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:36.759
But we're going to go back, not just last year, but.

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I think a number of years and a significant article

518
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:40.799
that you had presented.

519
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What was this five years ago?

520
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:49.039
All right? Right now, there's a national controversy over this

521
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.440
woman who is driving a car at an ice officer

522
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.960
and he was forced to shoot her in self defense.

523
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And I reminded the fact that five years ago, Ashley Babbitt,

524
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:03.519
an unarmed piece protester on January sixth in the Capitol,

525
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.359
was shot and killed at point blank range by a

526
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.200
Capitol police officer with a long history of disciplinary complaints.

527
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:16.160
Right and all across the spectrum, from the Rhinos to

528
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:20.519
the Democrats. She was an insurrectionist. They were all insurrectionists

529
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.799
trying to overthrow the government with no weapons, and so

530
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.319
she deserved what she got, and the cop was a hero.

531
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:33.680
The same people are attacking an ice officer who previously

532
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.480
had been dragged by a car by a protester six

533
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.880
months ago when he shot this woman who was trying

534
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to run him down with a car who'd already hit him.

535
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Actually exactly, Yeah, yeah, there's some like thirty stitches or

536
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something that and that is something like that, But go ahead.

537
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.920
Well, I don't know if you remember when, but when

538
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the January sixth FED surrection happened, even large segments on

539
00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.000
the right were denouncing the protesters and siding with the police.

540
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.599
Lindsay Graham said that police should shoot the January sixth protesters.

541
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:10.039
Lindsey Graham, you can't do it because you couldn't do

542
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.440
that because you had over forty FBI officers in the

543
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.640
mix too. So who you going right right right now?

544
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.720
A lot has come out since then, But in that

545
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:23.960
immediate period right after the protest, most people on the

546
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.319
right were panicking. They were either going along with the

547
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.559
official narrative or just keeping silent. I couldn't keep silent.

548
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:35.440
Within forty eight hours of the January sixth protests, I

549
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:40.039
published a column at The Stream and we've just republished it.

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I now work with Emerald Robinson, the wonderful investigative journalist

551
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.759
who's helped uncover the twenty twenty election steel, who's been

552
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.039
telling us what's really going on with Venezuela. She's got

553
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.039
a great substack called The Right Way, and part of

554
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.680
it there's now a subdivision called Christian Nation, which she's

555
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:02.839
asked me to edit. So I'm not editor of Christian Nation.

556
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.000
Over at Emerald Robinson's substack, and I have some of

557
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:12.440
the best journalists about Christianity, the best advocates for religious

558
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:18.039
freedom and the unborn and American sovereignty, some of the

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00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.680
best writers out there. We're publishing them, and I'm also

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publishing there. So I'd love people to go go over

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to Emerald Robinson's sub stack, Christian Nation and read my piece,

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00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.680
which was the Republic Still has no Clothes. And this

563
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.759
was published at The Stream on January eighth, twenty twenty one,

564
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:43.000
and what I said in it was that January sixth

565
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.559
was a tragedy in the sense of a Greek tragedy,

566
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because you had all these Americans worried that their election

567
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had been stolen from them, massive evidence of it they

568
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saw right before their eyes. Swing state after swing states

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00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:05.039
suddenly stops counting and then suddenly goes for Joe Biden.

570
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:10.119
Joe Biden, suddenly, during a pandemic, gets eight million more

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00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.079
votes than Barack Obama did at the height of his popularity.

572
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.799
These votes appear magically in swing states after the voting

573
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.279
machines had allegedly been shut down, and John.

574
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Look at the numbers, the numbers that they swung. I mean,

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it wasn't like sixty forty. I mean you're talking like

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eighty twenty rebushal on numbers, you.

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Know, for Joe Biden.

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How could you possibly think that that was a situation,

579
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especially when you looked at the swing states before that

580
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.279
incredible three hour pause in the middle of the night.

581
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.440
And now now, as Emerald Robinson is reported, the former

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00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:54.279
head of intelligence of Venezuela has admitted that the software

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created in Venezuela by the company smart Maattic was used

584
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to steal election for the communist government in Venezuela. Was

585
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.559
then exported through the company Dominion, which is now defunct

586
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.960
and used to steal elections not just in America but

587
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.519
in seventy other countries. Exactly all of this is now

588
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.319
on the public record. We have an eyewitness who was

589
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.079
in the conspiracy admitting to it, and I think an

590
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.440
Emerald Robinson has been reporting. Patrick Burns has been reporting.

591
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One of the key reasons for toppling Maduro was to

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00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:33.799
obtain evidence that our elections have been compromised by this

593
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:37.160
software and still are. By the way, the twenty twenty

594
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:41.480
four election was almost stolen for Kamala Harris. It took

595
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:46.000
some white hat hackers working behind the scenes to disable

596
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.359
a single data center in Serbia that was going to

597
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.559
be used to steal the election. That data center was

598
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:56.599
set up by John Brennan, former head of RCIA, who

599
00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.640
voted for the Communist Party candidates in the eighties. John

600
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.359
Brennan was evolved. So apparently, according to this Venezuelan whistleblower,

601
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:11.400
members of our CIA and election officials across America are

602
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:17.159
influenced by controlled by money from the Venezuelan drug cartel.

603
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.840
That is why Donald Trump took out Maduro. And my

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00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.239
prayer is that as part of Maduro's plea deal to

605
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.800
stay out of prison, he will have to cop to

606
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:33.079
all this, and then we can finally finally cut out

607
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.039
the cancer of these corrupt election machines, which are still

608
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:42.840
running software created by Venezuelan communists to allow elections to

609
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.400
be stolen. Software is still in place, and that's why

610
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.079
you saw so many down ballot races in twenty twenty

611
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.280
four go to the Democrats. People who voted for Trump

612
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.360
also voted for far left wing senators. Not right, but

613
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:02.079
this software is still in place across the country. Combine

614
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.559
this with the number of illegals the Democrats are allowing

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to vote, or really what they're doing is they're putting

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00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.079
the illegals names into the system, and they are the

617
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.320
voting machines cast votes on their behalf. And then you've

618
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.519
got the Somali's imported to Minnesota, who now controlled the

619
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:21.639
Democrat Party in Minnesota even though there were a small minority,

620
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.039
because they vote as a block. So we see what

621
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:29.920
the Democrats have done. They're combining software from communist dictatorships

622
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:35.239
in our election machines. They're importing millions of so called refugees,

623
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.639
putting them on welfare and organizing them and voting on

624
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:45.159
their behalf illegally. This is an ongoing color revolution. This

625
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:51.440
is an ongoing takeover of our country by radical leftists

626
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:57.360
here at home, corrupt politicians and foreign foreign governments and foreign.

627
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.679
John, let me ask you this because I asked another

628
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.639
guest about this. Who taught the Somalis how to do this?

629
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:02.599
Oh?

630
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:05.199
Well, the Somalis know how to do this. The Somalis

631
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.639
they have like the trademark on corruption. Remember they're the

632
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.320
only country that still has a large piracy industry.

633
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.119
I mean, I no get I get that part. But

634
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.599
they come from outside of the country and they plug

635
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:26.360
into our systems and they just take advantage of the

636
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.199
corruption I guess already ready made, and they plug in

637
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their programs.

638
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.800
You know what, there is historical precedent for this. I'm

639
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half Irish, my Irish ancestors. We did this in Boston

640
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.239
and New York and Chicago. You can get large immigrant

641
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:47.920
groups that can instantly become a powerful political network. That's

642
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.599
one of the reasons you have to control immigration, because

643
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:55.880
demography is destiny. Import the third world, you become the

644
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:57.000
third world.

645
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.960
Right exactly, Well, California is a perfect example, right, look,

646
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look at how the demography has changed so dramatically.

647
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There.

648
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.519
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, one great thing Donald Trump was

649
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able to do. He was able to get a lot

650
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.639
of Hispanic voters who now consider themselves American, who say,

651
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you know what, I don't think I need my wife's

652
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cousin coming here and living in my basement. I don't

653
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think we need to bring in three of my second

654
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cousins from Guadalajara. I kind of like America, let's pull

655
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up the ladder. Let's actually live in America rather than

656
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making America into the Mexico that we left.

657
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Yes, exactly.

658
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.079
So you had a lot of Trump vote. There was

659
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a district on the Mexican border that has voted Democrat

660
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for the last one hundred years. It's like eighty percent Hispanic.

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They voted for Trump. So Trump did some amazing political

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Like the Let we see I want to give you

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more time to talk about that. Let's go to break

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Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez.

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Here with the doctor Johnson or fourteen minutes before the

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top there. John is now associated with the Right Way

751
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to Christian Nation and Emerald Robinson and looking forward to

752
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connecting with all that you're doing there.

753
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John. That's just gonna be awesome.

754
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:46.960
But anyone I want to pick up where we left off,

755
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.079
and that is, you know, some of these like Tucker

756
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:57.400
Carlson and traditional right wing conservatives Megan Kelly and that it's.

757
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:58.920
Like they're off the reservation. What's the one what.

758
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.000
They it's like they see the left gets to be unhinged, irrational,

759
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:08.920
driven by resentment, fanatical and conspiratorial. Why can't we do that?

760
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.239
We want to do that too. Well, No, that's not

761
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.079
the right response. When your enemies acting like a lunatic.

762
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:17.719
The answer is not to say, oh good, I can

763
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.559
pull off my pants too. No, when your enemy's making mistakes,

764
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:26.519
you take advantage of that. You respond to that intelligently

765
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.320
and in a principled way. We don't want to fall

766
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.599
into the same kind of racial and religious tribalism that

767
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:34.039
characterizes the left.

768
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:36.360
For the sake of clicks.

769
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.599
Yeah, for the sake of clicks, and for the sake

770
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:42.519
of briefly feeling like a tough guy on Twitter. Oh,

771
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I totally owned him.

772
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I'm so based.

773
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:51.239
It's it's staggering. I have been very impressed. I can't

774
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:56.360
believe I'm saying this. By Marco Rubio, I'm increasingly excited

775
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.679
about the idea of a Marco Rubio candidacy in twenty

776
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:03.679
twenty because I think he is a genuinely principled, pro

777
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.719
life conservative Christian who is not going to flirt with extremes.

778
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.079
I don't think. I don't think he's any longer the

779
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.599
neocon that he used to be. He seems to be

780
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.960
working really well with President Trump and really managing I mean,

781
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:21.880
we're getting a lot of foreign policy wins. Domestically, we're

782
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.719
crippled by these leftist judges who are violating the Constitution,

783
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:29.880
trampling on the president's powers, acting like little dictators in

784
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.519
black robes. The Trump administration is going to have to

785
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.159
stand up to these judges at some point. I think

786
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:40.679
that point is coming soon. But on the foreign policy front,

787
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:46.199
the deal in Gaza managed to end that siege and

788
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.360
expose that Hamas was in fact hoarding food and not

789
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.679
distributing it to the people. There was no genocide in Gaza.

790
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.880
Israel is not some demonic regime. Israel is not behind

791
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.599
every evil in the world. I mean, there are some

792
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.639
people on the right now saying that the Muslim radicals

793
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:11.960
all over Europe are somehow Israel's fault, Right, like the really,

794
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.159
what did Israel ever do to Pakistan that forced it

795
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:18.320
to send thousands of child rapists over to Britain to

796
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:21.119
rape the British girls. How is that massad? How is

797
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:26.760
that Israel's fault? I really think it's not just madness.

798
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:31.000
I think there's something demonic about anti Semitism. You are

799
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:36.960
hating God's own people, the way the Pagans in the

800
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:42.000
Old Testament, who worship demons hated God's people. You're hating

801
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.440
the people of Jesus and Mary and Joseph, and the

802
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.960
Apostles and most of the early Church for hundreds of

803
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.400
years were people of Jewish descent. If you are developing

804
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:54.559
a hostility towards Jews, you are you're listening to see

805
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.079
You're listening to the devil. I think people consider that

806
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.079
it's spiritual warfare.

807
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:05.159
Right, It's god derangement syndrome. And God's real clear in

808
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.320
the Bible is that when you step away from God,

809
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:11.559
you invite chaos, you invite madness. And look at the

810
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:13.920
history of man time and again, just as you cited

811
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.840
very briefly, here these nations that have turned their back

812
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.920
on God, they go nuts, John.

813
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:23.239
Right, right, and look at Germany. Germany in the thirties

814
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:27.239
was the most highly educated, most literate population in the

815
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.440
history of the world, and they got They let themselves

816
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:38.039
be taken over by neopagan, pseudoscientific, tutalitarian fanatics who launched

817
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.039
the country into an unwinnable war that got it bombed

818
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:47.679
into obliteration. That's what happens when you follow shallow human

819
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.159
reason and reject the profound wisdom of the Bible. Both Testaments,

820
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.360
the Old Testament and the New they have to be

821
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.719
read together as one. If you take away the Old Testament,

822
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.719
the New Testament by itself can mean anything. It could

823
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.559
mean communism. I've seen people argue for universal celibacy, the

824
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.320
human rasio die off because we should all be virgins

825
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.440
like Jesus. If you only have the New Testament, you

826
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:14.519
have nothing. You have worse than nothing.

827
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:17.719
Well, and I think there's also things that are missing greatly. John,

828
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.519
I don't know if you agree with this, but the

829
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:23.199
apocryphal books that have been left out of the Protestant Bible.

830
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.719
Yeah, there's a lot of wisdom in them, and especially

831
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.480
the books that the Protestants left out of the Bible.

832
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.880
They did that because the Jews had eventually taken them

833
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.320
out of their cannon, but the Jews took them out

834
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.000
of their canon because they were being used to argue

835
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.760
for Christianity. Those are the later books of the Old Testament.

836
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:48.559
They kind of provide the bridge between ancient Israel and

837
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:52.440
the time of Jesus. They're like three hundred years of

838
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.280
the development of Jewish thought, including the awareness of life

839
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.840
after death. If you only look at the Old Testament

840
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.159
books that the Protestants and the Jewish people accept, you

841
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.920
have no evidence for resurrections of body, you have no

842
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.639
evidence of life after death. That's why the Sadducees didn't

843
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:10.320
believe in life.

844
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.960
Exactly. Exactly, Yeah, no doubt. Anyway, let's go back. We

845
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.000
got about six minutes left here. I want to go

846
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:18.599
return to that article.

847
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:20.000
Oh yeah, I.

848
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.280
Wrote this, Yes, great.

849
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.559
I pointed out that these were these January sixth people.

850
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.599
They had protested, We had filed appeals in different courts.

851
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.400
We brought evidence of election fraud, and biased judges refused

852
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.800
to consider the evidence. Not one case of election fraud

853
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.679
alleged in twenty twenty was ever decided on the merits.

854
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.519
It was always, oh, you lacked standing, you lacked standing,

855
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:49.119
Oh you didn't form correct. Yes, it was obviously a

856
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.719
judicial coup, and these people tried every form of redress.

857
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.440
They finally they went and they protested at the capital.

858
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.480
There were no National Guard there because Nancy Pelosi refused

859
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.840
to have them there. There were FBI agents there goading

860
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:07.559
people to attack the capital, goading people to break through barriers.

861
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:13.199
None of those people have ever been prosecuted. And they

862
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:16.320
were conducted into the capitol by the police at the

863
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:20.000
exact time that challenges to the twenty twenty election were

864
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.119
being filed by US senators. The US senators were raising objections.

865
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:27.719
We had like seven or eight senators saying that there

866
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.599
was election fraud. All of a sudden, there's this convenient

867
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:36.360
riot and the whole question of election fraud is utterly discredited. Yeah,

868
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:41.760
it was one hundred percent a deep state operation designed

869
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:45.880
to shut down discussion of election fraud, and that has

870
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.559
to be exposed now, God willing the fall of Maduro

871
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:53.599
we Wire. Part of Trump's price for letting that country

872
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:56.199
retain its independence has got to be they give us

873
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.360
boxes and boxes of evidence that prove that these election

874
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.920
fraud these election machines were fraudulent. They were operating using

875
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.320
software written in Venezuela designed to steal elections. We have

876
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.360
now multiple witnesses pointing to this, we have evidence, we

877
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:14.400
have whistleblowers.

878
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:15.639
It needs to.

879
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:18.039
All be made public. And notice what the left did.

880
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.320
They managed to get one of their own killed in

881
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.199
order to create another fake George Floyd controversy to distract

882
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:28.000
from the massive theft of taxpayer money that the Democrats

883
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.960
in Minnesota have been doing with the Somali community. All

884
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.199
of a sudden, now we're supposed to look at this woman.

885
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.039
She's a martyr. She's a martyr. All she was doing

886
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.000
was trying to run down a federal officer and she

887
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.519
was gunned down in cold blood by that same officer

888
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.760
trying to preserve his own life. The level of radicalism

889
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:51.719
of ferocity on the left, it's back to the nineteen

890
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.320
seventies when Puerto Rican terrorists were blowing up the US Capitol,

891
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:57.760
when cops were getting shot every day, when the Black

892
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:02.599
Panthers were robbing banks and the Left was defending it. Meanwhile,

893
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:05.679
Ashley Babbitt deserved what she got because she tried to

894
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:10.719
do a peaceful protest. That's the kind of demonic evil

895
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.280
we face. And again, what we face now is spiritual warfare.

896
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.119
And I encourage people to vote, protest, write letters, but

897
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:23.239
also pray, pray for our country's protection, Pray for your

898
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.159
own sanity, Pray that you keep your balance, that when

899
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.760
you read things online you double check them. When you

900
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:36.480
hear conspiracy theory, you look for evidence. You don't scapegoat

901
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.440
people because of their ethnicity or their religion. You focus

902
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.960
on their ideas, what they're saying, whether they're a loyal American,

903
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.639
whether they're a faithful, honest citizen, and if they're spouting

904
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.199
extremism of the far right or the far left.

905
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.079
You know, to walk.

906
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:56.840
Away exactly, you've got to measure it with the truth. John,

907
00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:58.320
You imagine where we are right now.

908
00:51:58.360 --> 00:51:58.840
I mean, we.

909
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:04.159
Really are at the cross roots, crossroads of truth and lie,

910
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.000
good and evil. And the thing is is what could

911
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.719
be revealed out of Venezuela could go a long way

912
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.760
and pulling back the veil to where America could really

913
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.000
realize the truth that could set them free.

914
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.599
Right and one of these Venezuelan whistleblowers said dozens of

915
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:24.599
members of Congress were on the payroll of the Venezuelan cartels.

916
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:26.960
We need to fight out If that's true, we need

917
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.280
the names, and then we need handcuffs and purp walks

918
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:33.760
and prosecutions. And I really hope the Trump Justice Department

919
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.639
is up for what's necessary to clean out the deep

920
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.559
state and our own government.

921
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.000
John. A lot of this stuff is common sense. I mean,

922
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.679
just like what you reported back, you know, five years

923
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:51.320
ago on sixth January sixth, is that I mean, you

924
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:56.239
had a majority of Americans. To this day, I think

925
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:59.039
the latest number polling was about sixty three percent of

926
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:05.360
America still believes that it was a fraudulent act of electioneering,

927
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.000
you know, particularly by the Democrats.

928
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:08.119
And Joe Biden.

929
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:11.599
You know, they believe that, and our government is not

930
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:13.440
interested in getting down to the truth.

931
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:14.400
They do some sort of.

932
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:18.440
Show committee trial, you know, garbage that they did with

933
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:19.719
Liz Cheney at all.

934
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.159
Oh yeah, that committee was so was so honest that

935
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.119
Joe Biden had to grant the preemptive pardons.

936
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:26.440
Yeah, exactly.

937
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:31.320
You don't pardon non criminals.

938
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.360
In Joe Biden's world, you do. But again, see this

939
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:35.840
is all it's all rather suspicious. It stinks to high

940
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.360
heaven and again for the sake of the American people,

941
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:41.920
And I don't care if you're a Republican or Democrat,

942
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:44.119
just as a fellow human being, you need to be

943
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:46.320
free and the only way you can be free is

944
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:47.480
when you're living in truth.

945
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:49.960
Twenty seconds left, Jim, go ahead and wrap it up.

946
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.760
I would just ask people pray for guidance. Ask if

947
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.559
you see something online that seems crazy, that seems paranoid,

948
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:00.800
that gets you angry and scared, step back for a

949
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.000
minute and pray for guidance from the Holy Spirit before

950
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.800
you believe that story, before you believe that conspiracy. There

951
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.679
are real conspiracies. I just laid one out about Venezuela, right,

952
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:16.840
So I'm not saying just mindlessly accept the status quo,

953
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.840
but prayerfully try to discern truth from error because we

954
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:23.480
are under spiritual attack.

955
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.400
As a niece here it is doctor John sameric Thank you, John.

956
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:27.000
Take care of you.

957
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:30.719
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Getting America back on track Bill Martinez Live.

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Hey, good morning America.

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Bill Martinez here six minutes after the top of the

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our Grover nor Quiz from Americas for Tax Reform joins

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US now live from Vegas.

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Huh absolutely, the uh the show about all the consumer electronics.

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It's amazing what's coming in the next few years.

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A lot of robots, Yeah, even for adults. I mean

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this is like a kid's a big kid's toy store.

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Isn't it. Oh, they have self driving, self driving cars

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these days. They have self driving tractors that John Gear

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makesh and all of the big companies that you think

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of that I think of as building equipment for agriculture,

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they're all out here explaining they've got these things that

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can drive themselves, that can help you mine for gravel automatically.

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Right well, and I got to imagine with the cost

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of fuel, heading in a very prosperous direction for them,

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they've got to be excited and very bullish for their future.

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Right.

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Oh.

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Absolutely, the new technologies that are moving forward, the opportunities,

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they are really really great stuff. A lot of you know,

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all you know, the big companies you're familiar with, but

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a lot of startups, a lot of companies you don't

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I didn't think of as technological companies that.

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They are now, right exactly. Well, AI is so pervasive.

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I mean we've been actually using it and not even

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knowing it, right Grover, Yes.

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Yes, and more and more we're finding it inside products

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and new things that work better and faster and less

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expensively than in the past. Next decade, it's going to

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be great if the government doesn't mess it up.

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Amen to that. I'll tell you.

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Speaking of messing things up, I want to talk about

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the Affordable Care Act.

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You and I were talking before.

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A handful of Republicans are trying to use some paddles

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and you know they're calling code blue on the ACA

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and trying to revive it.

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What's going on here, Well.

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They're just a handful, three or four last I saw.

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I hope it doesn't grow Republicans because the margin the

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Republican majority in the House of Representatives is so slim.

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Not a Republican from upstate California just died, which means

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can't be replaced for two maybe three months. It's a

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very close margin. So one, two or three Republicans deciding

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to throw in with the Democrats because they can get

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a good headline in their district. They think can actually

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pass a bad bill. And this will happen once or twice,

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hopefully not too often. This will not pass the Senate,

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the President will not sign it, but they're voting for

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hundreds of billions of dollars of spending on healthcare premiums

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for legal aliens and young men who could work but

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refuse to work. I mean, that's what this is about.

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Funding for people on welfare who shouldn't be on welfare,

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who don't need to be on welfare, who could go

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to work, they're not handicapped, and people who are not

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here legally.

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Rob I'm going to tell you, the American people are

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really getting tick here in light of all this fraud

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that's being exposed.

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I mean, Elon Musk came and said, look.

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And I think we could say at least a trillion

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dollars because of the fraud that's existing. And here we

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are realizing that he was more right than wrong.

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In one state. We're seeing what happened in Minnesota in

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one city. Really a gang of people got together. And

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these are not the most sophisticated crooks in the world, right,

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These are not Harvard grads. These people who came over

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from Somaya, not speaking the language, and very quickly we're

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able to be smarter than the federal government when it

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comes to walking away with welfare checks and other government

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programs that they said we're solving X Y or z

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problem and it was just being stolen. A number of

1051
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people have been arrested but for crying out loud. This

1052
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is happening not just in Minnesota, but in too many states.

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Well you got California.

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They're talking many more billions of dollars that has corruption

1055
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written all over it. To me, the question that begs

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asking is there who taught the Somalia is how to

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do it?

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Well, it's a good question. Any of the government employees

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who I mean, the Democrats don't seem to mind when

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a program that's supposed to quote unquote help people is

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twisted and used because the real reason for the government

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spending program is to buy votes exactly. And part of

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the buying votes is allowing people to steal the money

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and then use it to pay people to turn out

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to vote, to bribe them to be politically active. And

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that's how they take tax paya money and turn it

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into campaign funds for Democratic precinct workers. That one. This

1068
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was a less sophisticated effort because it was fairly easily

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exposed by that young man with a cambridge is walking

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up to the.

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Door, three year old citizen journalist. I love it.

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Yes, we're told there's a school here. We're told there's

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a preschool childcare system here. Any people here, anybody parked

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in the in the parking lot, No, nothing was there.

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They were just and so nobody even checked to see

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if these preschools they were funding existed.

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Exactly, no effort.

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And the things that adds more disgust to this whole

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situation is that, you know, according to the hearings today

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on the Hill, you had whistleblowers for ten years, for

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ten years saying, hey, we got a problem here in

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River City.

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This thing sticks stinks.

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To high heaven, and Walt see, he can't claim plausible

1085
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deniability because he's right smack dab in the middle of

1086
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all this, right, yeah.

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And this is why a democratic governor and democratic state

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legislature and democratic mayors were all in on this as

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a way of funding one of their political constituents. And

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they view federal money as their money and they use

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it to help elect people by bribing folks to vote

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the way they want them to. So this was not

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This did not bother anyone when it was reported to

1094
01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:35.360
them that it was going on. It really does remind us,

1095
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as you say that Doje began a conversation about fraud

1096
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that needs to continue, and that it sounds as if

1097
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:49.599
the governor of Minnesota is not running again because of

1098
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:53.599
this fraud. This needs to be exposed in other states

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as well.

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And I think it is it will be.

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I mean Governor Newsom, I mean the arrogance he says, Hey,

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bring it on, come on in, let's do an audit.

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They haven't audit the books in California, I think and forever.

1104
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And so he's going to open that up and you know,

1105
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be all that in the bag of chips and guess

1106
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what's going to happen. I mean, they're already estimating over

1107
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.599
two hundred billion dollars of fraud. And as you say, Grover,

1108
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this is the thing that we the people are beginning

1109
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to discern here is that there is a consistent pattern

1110
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of play and how they do this. This is the

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basis of this is Nancy Pelosi, I can hear quid

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pro quo.

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I mean, it's like, hey, I'll do this for you.

1114
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What are you going to do for me?

1115
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And they're getting they're viig off of all this government

1116
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money and these Somalis, like you said, they come here

1117
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:44.920
from a third world country. And yes, They're used to

1118
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:47.800
this kind of deviousness and any kind of cheating and

1119
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stealing and fraud they can get away with. But at

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this level, my goodness, they they found gold. And then

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there are stupid hills here in America.

1122
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Well, and the idea that the governor of California is

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promising to open the books, there is a wonderful website

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that you could just search for a lot of the spending.

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California is the one state that is fought, viciously fought

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against opening their books to be put onder the computers

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see how their money's being spent. I think it'd be

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a wonderful idea. When I met years ago working on

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just this issue of transparency with Governor schwartznagrains that absolutely

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will do it, but I don't think the bureaucracy listen

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Yeah, it didn't follow up. Got to go to break

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Right now, I'm Bill Martinez. He's Grover Norquiest, the president

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of Americans for Tax Reform, America's pre eminent center right

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expert on taxes. There's something that scares politicians more than anything,

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it seems, Grover, and you've realized this in your career,

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and that's that's called accountability, right.

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Absolutely, it is important that the people who make decisions

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be able to be held accountable. That's why we're not

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crazy when judges used to make all the decisions in

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the sixties and the seventies and even tried to announce

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how much money should be spent, even though that's clearly

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not a judge's job. And since Woodrow Wilson, the Democrats

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have had a policy of hiding power in the bureaucracy,

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so that if somebody said to a president, why is

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osha this bureaucracy doing bad things and killing jobs, the

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president says, oh, that's not me his administration, that's osha.

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The unelected bureaucrats Now, the president may appoint someone to

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run the committee or the commission to do this or that,

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and then those decisions are separated from the president. When

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President Trump has said I run the federal government and

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I'm responsible for all this stuff, some people say, oh,

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that's terrible, he's being less democratic. I've been a king.

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But when you say I'm going to make the decisions

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and you can hold me responsible, that's much more democratic

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than to say the bureaucracy. The bureaucracy is not mentioned

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in the constitution ever. There's a judiciary, there's an executive,

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and there's there's a Congress. Those are the three legislative

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legislative branches. No bureaucracy in the right.

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Yeah, I mean the carve out that they've been able

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to do, it's amazing.

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Uh.

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And it's it's all contributed to the thirty eight trillion

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dollars of debt that we have.

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Grover Well, if nobody's responsible, it's awfully hard to vote

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somebody out of office for making a decision that actually

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was made by a bureaucracy. I think it's very good

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for the president to be wholly responsible for what the

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administration does, and for Congress to be wholly responsible for

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01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:01.159
the laws that they pass. Uh, sure, to be responsible

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for the decisions they can make. I mean, exact possible.

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You can impeach a judge if he's being a bad judge.

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And we lost a judge here recently because she thought

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she could help an illegal immigrant go out the back door.

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Right, Yes, that's right, break the law.

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Yeah exactly.

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Well, look at we the people are about had it

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and we're up to our last nerve and all this incompetency,

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and it's worse than incompetency.

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What it seems to be is that.

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It's purposeful, and it's to serve the needs of a

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one party specifically that seems to be the dominant factor

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in all this. And I hate getting into the political

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domain of all this stuff, but you know.

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That's where it falls. It's on their doorstep.

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I mean you can say, oh, you know, because they

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always like to say, well, Republicans do it too, regardless,

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I don't care.

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Who does it.

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It's unconstitutional, it's stealing from the American people, and you know,

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and people have to go to jail on this.

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And I think this is where we're going to come to.

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And I think it's going to be tough for some

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people because they're having a hard time dealing with immigration issue.

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Seventy seven million people told Trump, go fix the problem,

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fix the border, get these immigrants out of here. This

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is killing us and in many ways financially and literally,

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and Trump is doing something about it. And you've got

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a minority of people up in arms about it causing problems.

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And of course then you have a situation where you've

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got a gal trying to run over an ICE agent

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and she gets shot, and you know, the mayor and

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the governor of Minnesota go sideways, and I guess they

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haven't had a good city burning, you know, in five

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years since George Floyd, so they're, you know, they're hoping

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for another good city burning that Waltz's wife can say,

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I love that smell.

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You know, well, it is a real challenge. And when again,

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when you have the bureaucracy as we do in Washington,

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d C. That is overwhelmingly of one party, Republicans don't

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grow up wanting to work for the government. They grew

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up wanting to build things and do things. Democrats find

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it to be the kind of job that they like.

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And when you had Obama as president, his head judiciary appointee,

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hired thousands of left wing judges, all Democrats, all left wing,

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and they stayed in. So what we've had is the bureaucracy,

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the unelected branch of government, which makes many decisions on

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how money has spent, what contracts are lent, make all

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these appointments. And you can tell the partisan nature of

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the bureaucracy by their labor union and it's giving ninety

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five ninety six percent to Democrat candidates. That tells you

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we have a one party state in two million government workers.

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And they will spend the money as Democrats want, not

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as the American people want.

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And the thing is they can't cover the the damage

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that they've done because after all is said and done,

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and the trillions of dollars they've gone that has gone

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01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:07.439
in that direction, what do they have to show for it?

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You know, you get politicians who you know their bartenders

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01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:13.960
and they barely have a couple of dimes to roll together.

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Next thing, you know, they're worth, you know, millions of dollars.

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01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:19.479
How does that happen.

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On a hundred been a couple of eighty thousand dollars

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a year salary.

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A couple of the Democrat congressmen and their spouses have

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gotten very rich during their time in office, and one

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01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:36.439
wonders how much of that are government contracts that they

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01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:40.199
got because they were related to a congressman.

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See, but I.

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Don't think we should wonder, you know, you know, you

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01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.800
know what I mean, because we should look it up. Well, yeah,

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I mean accountability, like you were talking about earlier, is

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01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:56.840
so important. Let's talk about how the Trump administration is

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01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:01.880
bulldozed the global minimum tax and it's been curing American sovereignty.

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This is awesome here.

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01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:06.479
Well, yes, there was an effort by the left to

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set up a minimum tax so taxes on Americans could

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01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:17.000
never be lower than taxes on Europeans. Now, as we remember,

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this country was founded because the British were telling us

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01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:23.520
what our tax policy should be, and we started shooting

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01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:28.560
at them until they left. And the Europeans thought under

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01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:33.079
Obama and under Biden, they worked very hard to try

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01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:37.760
and get the US to agree to a treaty that

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01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:41.920
said all business taxes will be the same, and they

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01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:43.800
want to do the same thing for the personal income

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01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:47.760
tax so that there'd be a floor. As Americans, we

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01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:51.840
want to compete with other countries by having the lowest cost,

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01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:58.279
the lowest taxes, and to have the least regulatory burden

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01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.359
so that we can out compete Europe and China. What

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01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:06.039
the Democrats want to do, unfortunately, and what Europe wants

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01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:09.720
to do, is let's harmonize taxes. So if America wants

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01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:13.960
to compete, they have to have lower wages. And that's

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01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:16.920
what the Democrats want us to do, because they represent

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01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:20.640
the government employees, not working Americans in the real world.

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01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:24.920
They want to keep taxes high. Don't ever cut taxes

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01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:29.520
and use that money to pay the government employees more

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01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:35.640
that Trump administration said, this is never happening, and the

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01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:38.319
Europeans are now agreeing that they're going to stop pushing

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for this.

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Now.

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01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:42.119
I don't believe they'll ever stop pushing for it, but

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01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:46.720
it is for a while they will slow down exactly.

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01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.560
Well, thank god for Donald Trump.

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01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:51.079
Huh yes, yes, I mean.

1366
01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:53.960
On so many levels, because here we are with everything

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01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:57.720
that's coming around. I mean, Grover, I don't even know

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01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.600
how Obama can look himself in the mirror, because remember,

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01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.439
as Obama was exiting the stage, he said, the best

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America will do, they'll be lucky to hit two percent

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01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:08.840
GDP it's going to be more like one point eight.

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That was the that was the extent of the vision

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01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:16.560
of the productivity of the American worker in America. Trump

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01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:18.439
came and said, no, I'm I think we could hit

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01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:20.920
you know, well easily hit three. I think we go

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01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:21.279
to five.

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01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:23.960
And Obama, remember, laughed and mocked him for that.

1378
01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:27.600
Yeah. Well, in the second year of its administration, when

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01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.119
his tax bill kicked in, the median income family of

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01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:32.720
fourth so they way just go up about six and

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01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:35.439
a half percent. So that was then we had COVID,

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01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:38.399
which didn't help. But then the new numbers in the

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01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:43.239
last six months suggest strong economic growth getting stronger.

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01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:46.239
Yeah, I mean we've had We've had as much as

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01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:49.319
five percent, is what you know, some of the economists

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01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:52.239
are saying. And you know, and of course we're still

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01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:56.119
waiting for fourth quarter. And that's with an interruption of

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01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:59.880
of course, the government, you know, taking a month off

1389
01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:04.880
shutting shutting their doors on us. But even still, you know,

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01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:08.560
it looks really good. And I believe that the golden

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age of America that Trump's been touting, I believe is

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01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:12.560
very reachable.

1393
01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:16.840
Oh absolutely, And as we talk, I'm here in Las Vegas,

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01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:21.079
where the Consumer Electronics Show is here. One hundred and

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01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:28.039
forty thousand people score whole square blocks of exhibits of

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01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:33.760
the most cutting edge, modern, amazing, almost magical. So how

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01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:38.680
do they do that? With robots and with they finally

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01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:40.600
got the glasses They've got to let you do all

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sorts of things.

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Right, the virtual stuff. Yeah, I love it.

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01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.319
Yes that they they started out not as good as

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01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:49.920
they could that this year it sounds like they've really

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01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.920
got some progress there. So you used to have to

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01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:57.239
have an iPhone and an iPad or the equivalent. Now

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01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:59.600
you're going to have the glasses that allow you to

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01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:03.039
do all that stuff walking down the street, sitting in bed.

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01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:05.079
Can you say only in America?

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01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:07.680
It is only in America. And they will share it

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with the rest of.

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The world, I know, But it's just that here we are,

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01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:13.840
we are the hub of all this creativity and innovation.

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01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:16.920
I'll tell you, it's exciting to be alive and it's

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01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:21.159
exciting to be an American. And I want people, you know,

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01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:24.399
to get a grasp of that, because man, we've got

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01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:25.920
a tiger by the tail here and we can have

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01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:26.520
a lot of fun.

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01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:30.720
Grover well, real progress, and it also looks as though

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01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:37.760
the socialist dictatorship in Venezuela, it has failed to produce growth.

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01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:43.399
Some six to seven million Venezuelans fled the country out

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01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:46.159
of fear of being attacked by the government and also

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01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:50.880
because the economy was collapsing. I mean, this is just amazing.

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01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:54.199
As a socialist comes into power in New York City,

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01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:58.000
one socialist in venezuel As leaving, and I just would

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01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:02.520
remind New Yorkers that's a lot of damage that can

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01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:06.560
be done by one socialist in Venezuela. Imagine what could

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01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:09.159
be done by one socialist in New York City.

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01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:11.079
Yeah, without a doubt, we got to leave it there

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01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:12.600
for now. I look forward to talking to you again

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01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:13.039
next week.

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01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:16.279
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eminent center right expert on taxes.

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Hey we're back with you, Bill Martinez here, and hey

1502
01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:35.439
we've got Julian Bridgway. He's from across the pond, as

1503
01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:37.800
they would say, and we're gonna have a lot of

1504
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:40.960
fun talking about dry January, this new concept that's been

1505
01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:43.960
catching on. And Julian's going to be telling you that

1506
01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:47.720
it's all his fault, but actually, I think it's just

1507
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.279
a natural response for us here, especially here in America,

1508
01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:54.439
coming off the holidays and thinking well, maybe we need

1509
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:56.319
a little bit of a respite and this could make

1510
01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:57.600
some sense, right Jillian.

1511
01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:01.600
So look, try Johnny talking about it, and anything that

1512
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:05.159
gets people to pause and reflect about their relationship to

1513
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:06.159
alcohol can be a good thing.

1514
01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:08.319
Yes, But you know, here's here's the thing.

1515
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.159
In terms of the u in terms of the science,

1516
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.920
what the long term research shows is that drinking and

1517
01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.159
moderation throughout the whole year is the better approach than

1518
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:21.520
any one month fixed and it's more likely to be sustainable,

1519
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:23.720
and it's more likely to allow people to kick those

1520
01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:26.039
bad habits of binge and bust.

1521
01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:29.920
Right, But there's also this opportunity for new discovery, which

1522
01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:34.880
I think is I think jettising and really motivating this, uh,

1523
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:38.479
this movement for Dry January. By the way, ladies and gentlemen,

1524
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:42.720
Julian is the CEO of International Alliance for Responsible Drinking,

1525
01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:46.199
and I love that. That's a great concept because that's

1526
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:49.000
what that's what we all want. Whatever it is, however'

1527
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:51.680
you know, way we want to live our life, we

1528
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:53.960
want to do it responsible, you know, because we have

1529
01:26:54.039 --> 01:26:56.039
other people that we live with, Right, Julian.

1530
01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:59.199
That's absolutely right. And I think the you know, the

1531
01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:03.199
key thing for perhaps your you know, your audience takeaway

1532
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:06.399
is that the science is really on the side of moderation,

1533
01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:10.840
that people who drink in moderation live on average at

1534
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:13.239
least as long as people who never drink at all.

1535
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:14.279
Yeah.

1536
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.399
Right, Well, you know it's interesting, you know, it's looking

1537
01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:19.520
at the top resolutions for this year, you know, because

1538
01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:22.359
it's the new year and it has to make new resolutions.

1539
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:23.319
No surprise.

1540
01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:25.920
At the top of the list is it's focused on health.

1541
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:28.000
You know, people are saying, hey, I need to exercise more,

1542
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:32.000
I need to watch what I eat and drink, just

1543
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:32.720
to name a few.

1544
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:34.079
At the top of the list, right.

1545
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:37.640
I think it's very natural. You know, people start the year,

1546
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:39.600
they look at the year ahead, and they look at

1547
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:42.479
their resolutions, they think about a dry January. Maybe they

1548
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.159
had a bit of a wet December. But this is

1549
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:48.199
the thing. I think, these long term drinking patterns, where

1550
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:50.279
people drink in moderation, not just for a month, but

1551
01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:53.079
for the whole year, that is the better and more

1552
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:56.039
sustainable way to manage the relationship with alcohol.

1553
01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.119
Well in the good news is we have scientific data

1554
01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:03.600
to support you know, some of what you're feeling here naturally,

1555
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:09.119
which is common sensical. And for those that have been experimenting,

1556
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:11.439
you know, dry January has been around for a couple

1557
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:14.720
of years now, and you know the response and the

1558
01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:19.479
anecdotal research in response from people who who have experimented

1559
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:21.920
with this, it's all very positive and it's almost like

1560
01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:23.880
they look forward to dry January.

1561
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:27.239
So look, I mean it's for you know, it's a

1562
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:29.880
really good thing that people reflect on this, and I

1563
01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:33.159
think as people do and they think about how they

1564
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:36.960
can have a more intentional and responsible relationship with alcohol,

1565
01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:39.479
I think the thing to take away is that it's

1566
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:42.600
those long term patterns, it's not just short term changes

1567
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:45.880
that make the real difference in your life. And you know,

1568
01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.159
it's not about binge or bust. It's about just moderation

1569
01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:53.199
and thinking about drinking moderately throughout the week and throughout

1570
01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:53.640
the year.

1571
01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:57.000
Right, well, exactly, And that's what you're saying. With this

1572
01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:01.199
scientific research, the evidence says that modern drink compared with

1573
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:07.319
not drinking at all, leans toward moderation, right.

1574
01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:11.119
And this is you know, there's been you know, all

1575
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:13.079
sorts of studies that have really looked at all of

1576
01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:16.600
the research over many years, and these are the conclusions

1577
01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:19.600
they come to. So, you know, people get bombarded with

1578
01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:22.000
all sorts of information. You know, there's new studies that

1579
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:23.680
which say one thing or the other thing. It'd be

1580
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:26.920
very confusing. But I think the underlying message that I'd

1581
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:29.479
like to leave your audience with is that the science

1582
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:30.479
is on the side of moderation.

1583
01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:33.039
Well, and the other thing is is that you have

1584
01:29:33.560 --> 01:29:36.920
the social experiment. So when people are out there in

1585
01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:42.600
society and they're celebrating, they're realizing that the data is

1586
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:46.600
validating what they're seeing in their own lives and their

1587
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:47.359
own experience.

1588
01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:47.640
Right.

1589
01:29:48.840 --> 01:29:50.880
So, look, I mean there is a real tension, isn't

1590
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:53.000
that because you know, going out for drink is part

1591
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:56.239
of social connection, it's part of celebration. But on the

1592
01:29:56.239 --> 01:29:58.960
other hand, there are these sort of messages and things

1593
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:03.119
like dry January, you know, reducing your drinking, and so

1594
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:05.520
you can see why it's a bit confusing. But as

1595
01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:10.159
I say, what the science shows is that you know,

1596
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:12.039
if you just drink in moderation and you do it

1597
01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:14.840
throughout the year, that is the better approach.

1598
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:17.039
Or do you find a replacement.

1599
01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:22.079
So you're seeing some really quite interesting new trends and

1600
01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.039
you see this particularly amongst gen Z. They're early adopters

1601
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:28.199
of something that's called zebra striping, although I guess on

1602
01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:30.079
this side of the pond you'd call it zebra striping,

1603
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:31.840
which is, you know, they'll go out for a drink

1604
01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:34.119
with their friends, they'll have a beer, and then they'll

1605
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:36.760
follow up with a non alcoholic beer and that allows

1606
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:39.000
them to sort of stay out to socialize for longer

1607
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.279
while continuing to drink moderately. And these no and low

1608
01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:45.399
alcohol products are you know, they're a great innovation. They

1609
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:49.880
give people more choices, more freedom of choice to drink moderately.

1610
01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:52.720
Juliane, you know, what's going to happen now? You got

1611
01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:54.600
all the gen z ers. They're not going to talk Zebra.

1612
01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:59.359
They're going to stalk zebra now, because Zebra sounds more sexy,

1613
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:01.720
I think, you know, and more sophisticated.

1614
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:05.560
Well, you say, you know tomato, we say tomato, and

1615
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:08.119
I think you know Zebra Zebra. I think we'll see

1616
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:08.680
how it goes.

1617
01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:09.920
Yeah, but I like that.

1618
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:14.479
You know, next time we talk, we'll realize that you

1619
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:17.399
started something here every basically talking in terms of Zebra

1620
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:19.000
and how that will catch on.

1621
01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:23.520
I mean it's just like six seven, right, I hope.

1622
01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:25.600
So yeah, we'll see. You know.

1623
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:29.319
Gen Z's often described as the most intentional generation. So

1624
01:31:29.479 --> 01:31:32.359
what does your research show about how they approach this?

1625
01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:35.880
So really interesting? I mean, you're right, you know, very

1626
01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:39.640
deliberate about how their their relationship with alcohol. A lot

1627
01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:42.319
of it's about the occasion and a lot of it's

1628
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:44.960
linked to their overall approach to the wellness and well being.

1629
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:47.880
But you know, they are you know, they're still going

1630
01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:50.720
out and they're drinking, and they're doing things like zebra striping.

1631
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:52.720
You know, there's been you know, we've had the cost

1632
01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:55.840
of living crisis, We've had the pandemic. It's difficult to

1633
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:58.680
really be able to extrapolate the long term trends. But

1634
01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:00.279
one of the things that we are for or of

1635
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:05.039
is this more deliberate approach. And they are, you know,

1636
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:08.720
experimenting with different ways of drinking like zebra striping.

1637
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:11.520
Right, No, I like, we're going to stay with zebra Jullian.

1638
01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:15.520
So it's you know, it'll be interesting to see how

1639
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:18.239
that plays out over time. But you know, there's a

1640
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:20.920
lot we can learn from a more intentional and responsible

1641
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:22.439
approach to welcome well.

1642
01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:26.279
I love the practicality of the younger generation. They have

1643
01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:29.720
observed and seen their parents and going look at there's

1644
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:32.079
got to be a better way. And it seems that

1645
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:37.600
again you know, uh, prognosticators and experts in research have

1646
01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:41.279
said that gen z are going to lead us out

1647
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.680
of a lot of the conundrums that we found ourselves in,

1648
01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:47.319
you know, by tradition and that sort of thing. So

1649
01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:50.359
they're experimenting. I think this is just another one of

1650
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:53.520
those elements that they're going to lead the way on.

1651
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:54.199
What do you think?

1652
01:32:55.239 --> 01:32:57.439
I think you know, the data, the data shows that's

1653
01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:00.119
what's going on. I mean, there's less underage drinking in

1654
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:03.960
America now and that's true in Europe too. There's less

1655
01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:07.000
you know, heavy and episodic drinking, that sort of binge drinking.

1656
01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.840
And these are really good developments, particularly for young people.

1657
01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:12.960
And you know, as that plays out in later life,

1658
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:15.720
if that leads to more intentional and responsible attitudes to

1659
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:18.239
alcohol where you don't have to give it up, but

1660
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:20.960
if you drink and moderation, you know that is the

1661
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:24.159
best approach. That's a you know, that's a really positive

1662
01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:24.920
overall development.

1663
01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:25.880
Yeah.

1664
01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:29.319
Well, this new review from the International Alliance for Responsible Drinking,

1665
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:35.560
of which he is the CEO, Julian Brathwaite, reports that,

1666
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:39.479
you know, it looks at twenty five years of peer

1667
01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:43.319
reviewed science and finds a more balanced picture for many

1668
01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:46.640
adults who choose to drink moderate patterns are linked to

1669
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:49.079
positive long term outcomes.

1670
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:52.920
That's huge, it's you know, it's really it is a

1671
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really important thing to take away that the science is

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01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:57.720
on the side of moderation. And you know, people should

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talk to their doctors of course about this. But if

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people want more information, they can always go to our website,

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which is ww dot IR dot org. That's iard and

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we've got the summaries of the evidence this twenty five

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years of science that you just mentioned. We've got more

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information about the science, so people can go and inform

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themselves about, you know, what the science says, and make

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informed decisions and choices about you know, alcohol in their lives,

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not just for one month, but for the whole year.

1682
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Yeah, exactly.

1683
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And as the study indicates, and as you've mentioned, Julian

1684
01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:35.880
Is gen Z is leading the way here, more pressure

1685
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to cut back strong social cultural ties to drinking, leading

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moderation as a bit of a still be determined area.

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Right.

1688
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Look, there's always, you know, there's always this tension that

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we talked about earlier. And you know, people can be

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01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:52.800
forgiven for being confused because you know, every day there's

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01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:55.000
a different headline it's saying one thing or the other thing.

1692
01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:56.760
But you know, the.

1693
01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:01.279
Underlying evidence is remarkably consistent. And I think that's the

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01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:04.479
thing perhaps to leave your audience with, which is that

1695
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you know, yeah, it's confusing, but the overall evidence, based

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01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:14.479
on decades of research, does support these long term patterns

1697
01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:18.079
where people are making you know, long term you know,

1698
01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:21.319
approaching it long term rather making short term decisions and

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01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:23.680
drinking moderately throughout the week. And throughout the year.

1700
01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:27.159
Well, Julian, thank you very much for coming on and

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bringing this research and discussing you know, dry January. Julian

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Breathwait is the CEO of International Alliance for Responsible Drinking.

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Is there a website they can go to for more information?

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01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:44.279
Absolutely so. It's ir dot org so Iard dot org.

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And there's information there, including this review of twenty five

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years of the science that you mentioned, that will allow

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people to make up their own minds, inform themselves, be

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free to choose, and hopefully benefit from the information that

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we have.

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Julian, you're as thank you so much for the time,

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Good to be with you. Happy new year.

1794
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Well, great to be catching up, especially on all that

1795
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MRSA is doing, you know, keeping an eye on all

1796
01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:27.000
things Minneapolis these days.

1797
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Right, well, yeah, I mean, first of all Minneapolis. I

1798
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:34.359
have to say over at National Review, there was a

1799
01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:36.239
piece a few days ago that said, can we please

1800
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:40.119
stop talking about Minneapolis? Minneapolis has been in the news

1801
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:43.279
far too many times for far too many stupid things.

1802
01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:48.239
A reporter National reporters or this is my joke, Dash

1803
01:40:48.279 --> 01:40:51.800
reporters are becoming all too familiar with the area airport.

1804
01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:55.079
But the point in National Review was we should trade

1805
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:59.920
Minnesota to Canada for Alberta and a providence to be

1806
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:04.039
named later, because I mean, right now, it's it's just

1807
01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:09.199
just ridiculous. Jacob fry Uh, that's completely out of control.

1808
01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:14.119
And Sean Spicer noted Friday morning, if it were not

1809
01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:18.439
for what happened with Ice this week, Tim Walls would

1810
01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:22.239
be spending time at the governor's mansion in a conference

1811
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:26.359
room talking to his lawyers about all the Somali fraud stuff.

1812
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:30.119
But I guess he gets a brief reprieve this week

1813
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:33.760
before the inevitable comes crashing down on him.

1814
01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:38.239
Well, like you say, what Jacob Fry and what Governor

1815
01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:42.800
Waltz have demonstrated to the American people is that lawlessness

1816
01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:49.279
and sanctuary cities are synonymous. Yeah, you can't have law

1817
01:41:49.279 --> 01:41:53.760
and order with a sanctuary city. It's just it's inherently

1818
01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:55.319
in conflict.

1819
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:56.439
Yeah.

1820
01:41:56.479 --> 01:41:58.720
And what I'll say about the media coverage with large

1821
01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:03.000
looking at the Ice issuation is that Number one, it's

1822
01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:07.720
okay to say we don't know something, especially in these

1823
01:42:07.760 --> 01:42:11.279
early moments, a very sensitive matter, especially because someone lost

1824
01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:11.840
their life.

1825
01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:14.000
It's not emitting weakness, it's not.

1826
01:42:13.880 --> 01:42:17.640
Showing bias most of the time, to just say here's

1827
01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:20.840
what we know, here's what we don't know. And I

1828
01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:23.520
saw a few people do that on NBC, a person

1829
01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:27.279
on CBS, but not enough people in the national media

1830
01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:32.319
have been doing this and showing caution and nuance, which

1831
01:42:32.359 --> 01:42:38.039
is required in such a sensitive situation to avoid inflaming

1832
01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:41.399
the situation, threatening the lives of law enforcement and burning

1833
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:46.000
the city down again. But the other thing I'll just

1834
01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:51.439
say is it's this culture of harassment against law enforcement

1835
01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:55.439
that led us to where we are. It's political vigilanteism,

1836
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:00.720
and not enough people understand and respect the difference between

1837
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:05.800
observing law enforcement versus obstructing law enforcement observing. I feel

1838
01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:07.880
like we've gotten to the point where it's crazy ex

1839
01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:15.239
girlfriend vibe situation. But what happened was here was this woman,

1840
01:43:15.359 --> 01:43:19.319
miss Good, was obstructing law enforcement. And to claim that

1841
01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:22.399
she was simply in the in the drop offline and

1842
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:25.520
then somehow got caught up in this mess of her

1843
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:29.880
you know, just haphazardly, is just a complete farce. The

1844
01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:31.720
reporting from the New York Post and others that she

1845
01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:35.920
was part of an ice watch group throughout the whole day,

1846
01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:39.520
throughout the entire day, so to say, to use the phrase,

1847
01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:42.800
as we saw on Friday's Today Show, Maggie vest put

1848
01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:45.039
a correspondent on the ground to say the Vice President

1849
01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:48.880
was claiming without evidence she was a radical leftist. Couldn't

1850
01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:51.760
be any further from the truth, and it's not doing

1851
01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:55.560
any justice to the situation, and you're not showing compassion

1852
01:43:55.840 --> 01:44:00.119
for the community by refusing to call out Minnesota fish.

1853
01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:01.640
And that's what the laft point I just make is

1854
01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:04.239
Tom Homan always makes his point that he says, I

1855
01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:07.439
have tremendous compassion for these illegal immigrants because in many

1856
01:44:07.439 --> 01:44:09.880
cases they were sold a bill of goods. They were

1857
01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:12.760
told and promised these things, and they got here to

1858
01:44:12.800 --> 01:44:15.720
the US, and then they were trafficked or far worse

1859
01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:19.279
than living in slums. No human being, child of God

1860
01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:23.079
should have to live this way. And that's the same

1861
01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:26.840
situation here in Minneapolis. And yet the left kind of

1862
01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:29.079
mind virus has taken over so many people.

1863
01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:34.840
Well, they've homogenized this narrative that these are your neighbors

1864
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:38.479
who cut your lawns and you know, work in hotels

1865
01:44:38.520 --> 01:44:41.319
to make sure you have fresh betting. I mean, I'm

1866
01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:44.640
sure there is a percentage of these immigrants. I mean

1867
01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:47.560
they're still illegal. I mean, you're illegal. That's you know,

1868
01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:49.560
number one, the fact that you've been doing it for

1869
01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:53.199
twenty years. You've been illegal for twenty years. But all

1870
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:58.760
that being said, don't make those individuals who have been

1871
01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:01.359
trying to be re responsible in as much. But yet

1872
01:45:01.399 --> 01:45:05.000
they've had twenty years to do the right thing. But

1873
01:45:05.600 --> 01:45:08.880
where Homan is right is the system has promoted and

1874
01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:12.119
given them cover and made a false promise to them,

1875
01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:16.359
and here they are. They're suddenly caught in a net

1876
01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:19.720
when the government decides, you know, you had seventy seven

1877
01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:22.279
million people vote for Trump to say enough of this

1878
01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:25.319
illegal immigration, We've got to deal with this. And so

1879
01:45:25.680 --> 01:45:29.640
then they take I guess the best side of illegal

1880
01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:32.840
immigration if you can say that and try and homogenize

1881
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:33.920
and have it.

1882
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:37.920
Cover all the worst of the worst. Who are.

1883
01:45:39.279 --> 01:45:45.159
You know, child trafficking drugs and killing killing American citizens

1884
01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:49.800
and you know, being allowed to work through the system,

1885
01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:53.640
all in the name of a sanctuary city and endangering

1886
01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:56.800
the public because you know, you can't get local cooperations.

1887
01:45:56.840 --> 01:45:57.640
So what do you do?

1888
01:45:58.039 --> 01:46:01.000
I mean, they talk about ice in dangerous, ice endangering.

1889
01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:04.600
It's the governor and the mayor themselves who do not

1890
01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:08.800
want to participate in securing these illegal aliens who have

1891
01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:13.000
invaded our country, who are convicts, who have felonies, and

1892
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:16.560
they're letting out hundreds I think in Minnesota, and they're letting

1893
01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:19.199
out hundreds of felons on the streets to go and

1894
01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:26.479
then they say that ice is endangering Minneapolis.

1895
01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:27.800
On that I say, yes, they talk about they want

1896
01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:34.199
to lionize Renee Good. Rachel Moran and Joscelyn Nungray are

1897
01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:38.720
unavailable for comments sadly on this situation.

1898
01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.800
But their bodies still speak from the grave though, of.

1899
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:47.399
Course, of course. But yes, but be that as it may.

1900
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:49.720
I think to tie this to what I was talking

1901
01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:53.880
about before with Tim Walls and having to probably chat

1902
01:46:53.920 --> 01:46:57.199
with lawyers at some point if he hasn't already. What's

1903
01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.359
going on with the fraud situation is well well, as

1904
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:03.439
you have a group of people who have realized how

1905
01:47:03.439 --> 01:47:07.159
to gain the system, know how to play the race card.

1906
01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:11.000
And again I think that is also an insult to

1907
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some people as well.

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But fraud is fraud.

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The Left subscribes to disparate impacts that if too many

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people of a certain group are committing crimes, we got

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to like cut that down somehow. We gotta not charge

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people with this. You have this in schools that if

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too many people of one race are getting suspended, we

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01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:34.039
got to do something about that.

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That's basically more or less what happened in Parkland.

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Too many Hispanic students were being suspended, so we got

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to create some sort of racial balance so that the

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suspensions reflect the demographics are closer to the demographics of

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01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:50.960
the school. But fraud is fraud with the Somalis here

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in Minnesota, and the administration was right to go in

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and do something about this. And it's misinformation for the

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news media to claim that so many these people did

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01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:02.520
not have criminal records. The Washington Examiner between Christmas and

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01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.800
New Years, I believe, had an amazing step that I believe.

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I think like two thirds were either of the legal

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immigracy admitistration has taken us far are either convicted or charged.

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And so when the folks in the left say while

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only like a third or a quarter of those taken

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have criminal records, they're only looking at people that have

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been fully convicted, right, people that are out on bail

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a waiting trial. And while every person should have a

1932
01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:35.119
right to a trial, the way it works for Americans

1933
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as we've unfortunate seen Americans when we commit crimes in

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other countries. Ask Amanda Knox how that worked out for her.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, I mean they get the book thrown at them

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01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:45.880
because they want to make an example of them, and

1938
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yet we can't do that here in the United States.

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Yeah, and then Meanwhile, it's the population that is endangered.

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01:48:53.680 --> 01:48:55.479
And where do these people go. You know, they don't

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end up at that, They don't go to the Hamptons.

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01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:01.000
You know, they go into these minority community because birds

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01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:02.720
of a feather flocked together, right.

1944
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:05.600
All right, I mean you're going off of the information

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that you have. If a known criminal, alien or not

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01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:10.640
lives in a.

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01:49:10.600 --> 01:49:13.760
Certain area, that's kind of what you have to do.

1948
01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:16.800
You don't go looking in a gated community even though

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someone lives twenty miles away, right, the hosts that they

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01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:20.520
might be there.

1951
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That's not how this works.

1952
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And I just think this entire news cycle is so

1953
01:49:27.479 --> 01:49:30.399
emblematic of what's wrong with the media that it is

1954
01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:33.840
everything is black and white for them. It is with CNN,

1955
01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:37.520
Trump administras, should bad Ice, bad Ice, dumb Ice doesn't

1956
01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:41.000
know what it's doing, you know, protesters good, Jacob Fry good.

1957
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:44.399
You know, there's no sort of level setting here to

1958
01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:48.199
explain that things are really complicated, that even just saying

1959
01:49:48.680 --> 01:49:51.560
this situation was awful but legal would get you yelled

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01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:52.640
at on CNN.

1961
01:49:53.119 --> 01:49:54.079
Oh yeah, exactly.

1962
01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:56.920
And the other thing that disgusted me, Curtis, is that

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01:49:57.199 --> 01:50:02.960
they claim to be the the controllers of the truth.

1964
01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:06.479
You know, this is the truth. Well wait a minute,

1965
01:50:06.479 --> 01:50:10.199
there can't be two truths, you know, and you're suggesting

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01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:13.920
a whole nother truth narrative here, what is it?

1967
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:15.960
Right? They are you see?

1968
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:20.760
And it confuses, It confuses the people who are exposed

1969
01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:23.560
to this, and it makes them wonder. And of course

1970
01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:26.960
then you know, here we've got all these increased attacks

1971
01:50:27.199 --> 01:50:30.800
on ICE officers. I mean, as looking at these these

1972
01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:34.600
numbers today, I mean, it is it is.

1973
01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:36.079
Phenomenal how they've gone up.

1974
01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:41.039
You've got assaults up thirteen hundred percent, vehicular attacks like

1975
01:50:41.119 --> 01:50:46.159
what happened in Minneapolis thirty two hundred percent, and then

1976
01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:50.039
death threats eight thousand percent. With a rhetoric that comes

1977
01:50:50.039 --> 01:50:54.000
out of the mouths of these particularly our politicians, it

1978
01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:58.960
is so irresponsible and it's putting government officials in jeopardy.

1979
01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:02.520
And these are officials that are doing the bidding of

1980
01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.760
the American people. Seventy seven million people voted and said

1981
01:51:06.279 --> 01:51:10.239
we want to get a handle and get the illegal

1982
01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:11.680
immigrants out of the country.

1983
01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:13.199
Yeah, point number one.

1984
01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:15.840
The Vice President kind of touched on this that if

1985
01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:18.880
you have a problem with what ICE is doing, do

1986
01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:22.840
not attack ICE. Fight this out at the ballot box.

1987
01:51:23.359 --> 01:51:26.079
This was really the what should have been the lesson

1988
01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:29.560
of the Charlie Kirk assassination, that we solve our disagreements

1989
01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:32.119
a reminder that is not a new lesson, that we

1990
01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:35.279
solve our disagreements at the ballot box instead of with bullets.

1991
01:51:36.479 --> 01:51:39.479
And also to tie it to the Somali fraud part

1992
01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:43.960
as well, there's a not a lat ABC and NBC

1993
01:51:44.079 --> 01:51:49.279
in particular CNN, MS now CBS has been okay, actually

1994
01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:54.279
half decent. Is they're just saying unverified allegations, you know,

1995
01:51:54.840 --> 01:51:57.720
or as we were talking about, without evidence that ms

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01:51:57.760 --> 01:51:59.960
Good was part of a radical left movement.

1997
01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:01.680
It's easy to it.

1998
01:52:01.680 --> 01:52:04.479
It's like calling someone a racist, you know, in trying

1999
01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:06.640
to end a discussion. If you just say these are

2000
01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:10.720
on substantiated, unverified allegations, because we said so, they hope

2001
01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:14.439
we can end discussion. And it is to your earlier

2002
01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:16.800
point as well. It's a disservice to people out there

2003
01:52:17.079 --> 01:52:20.000
because I don't mean to be demeaning at all, but

2004
01:52:20.720 --> 01:52:23.520
we you and I eat, sleep and breathe this kind

2005
01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:27.920
of thing. We're Americans that are working out with real jobs,

2006
01:52:27.960 --> 01:52:30.239
that are working with their hands, that are teaching students

2007
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:32.439
that are protecting us. They only have so much time

2008
01:52:32.439 --> 01:52:34.319
in the day, and if the news media are saying

2009
01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:36.880
conflicting things, they don't really know what to believe and

2010
01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:37.920
they're just going to give up.

2011
01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:40.359
Well, that has been the danger of the eight second

2012
01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:44.239
sound bite, and the Democrats know how to use it,

2013
01:52:44.439 --> 01:52:46.399
and the opera chicks know how to use it. The

2014
01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:50.520
mainstream media they just put it out there. And even today,

2015
01:52:50.600 --> 01:52:54.239
I mean I heard an accusation of the Ice agent

2016
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:58.680
being a murderer. There was It wasn't predicated by an

2017
01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:03.720
alleged murder he was. They it was a declarative statement

2018
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:06.479
that he was a murderer. And then they claim that

2019
01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:10.880
Trump is or that Christy nom has decided to become

2020
01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:15.720
you know, the judge and jury and prosecutor on this case.

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01:53:16.399 --> 01:53:21.159
Yeah, the governor, Yeah, that was Governor Walls. And executioner, yes, exactly, executioner.

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01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:26.399
And that's just rankorous irresponsibility. And yet they demand to

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01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:28.880
be part of any investigation. They say, no, no, we

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01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:32.640
can't trust the Trump administration or the FBI career FBI ficials,

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01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:36.880
career government employees that we're supposed to like lionize and

2026
01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:39.560
bow down to as you know, we learned during the

2027
01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:45.359
dose days from the liberal media. But they're saying, oh no, no,

2028
01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:47.560
we need to be part of the investigation. By the way,

2029
01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:49.840
this person's a murder but we're not going to prejudge here.

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01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:52.680
Governor Walls said in his Thursday press conference, I'm not

2031
01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:56.560
used inflammatory definitions, inflammatory terms, and yet he's calling for

2032
01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:58.880
the National Guard to be sent to protect schools like

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01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:00.359
Ruby Ridge and arc Saul.

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01:54:01.800 --> 01:54:03.119
Right, what world are we living in?

2035
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:05.760
I mean, the Democratic Party really hasn't changed all that much, Bill,

2036
01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:07.520
when you think about it. They want to use the

2037
01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:11.800
National Garden schools and they believe that illegal immigrants people

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01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:15.399
from other countries should be the ones that uh mow

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01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:16.720
their lawns and clean their sheets.

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01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:20.039
They have such low view of certain people and their dignity.

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01:54:20.159 --> 01:54:20.920
Right exactly.

2042
01:54:21.119 --> 01:54:23.760
Well, the thing is is that how do you trust

2043
01:54:23.800 --> 01:54:27.800
the same people that prosecuted George Floyd the George Floyd case.

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01:54:29.119 --> 01:54:32.279
All right, I mean, Keith Ellison is on tape having

2045
01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:35.159
talked to a lot of these people that ICE were

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01:54:35.199 --> 01:54:39.119
going after the people in the Somali, the Somali community.

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01:54:39.159 --> 01:54:42.960
There's tape of him discussing basically saying I'm going to

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01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:45.439
help you, I'm going to defend you, and sure enough,

2049
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:48.439
these people end up being caught in this fraud scheme.

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01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:51.479
It's just a complete conflict of interest.

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01:54:52.359 --> 01:54:56.520
It's like his Obama's hot Mike moment right with the

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01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:57.640
president of Russia.

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01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:02.119
If you're in flexibility, yeah right, telflatimm or funny.

2054
01:55:03.239 --> 01:55:06.640
Well, Curtis, as always, we appreciate the insight and they're

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01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:08.920
reporting and all the great work that MRC is doing

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01:55:09.199 --> 01:55:11.640
on behalf of we the people. He's a managing editor

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01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:14.920
of NewsBusters at MRC. Curtis, How thank you, Curtis.

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01:55:14.920 --> 01:55:17.159
Take care, Happy New Year, my friend, Thanks Bell, Take care.

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