Jan. 8, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 01 08 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 08 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 01 08 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Hey, right now, six minutes chapter the top. They are

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Bill Martinez here with Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal. Mike,

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how you doing aboutting? Happy New Year?

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Good, good to see you, Bill, Happy new Year.

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Well, taya. As if we don't have anything to talk about,

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let's all right, let's talk about what you have been

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talking about all weekend since the arrest of one President Maduro.

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Right right, Well, I think there's a couple of lenses

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to view this situation, and the first lenses is the

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apprehension of Nicholas Madua in the legality and constitutionality of it.

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And then the second lenses the geopolitical implications for America,

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the United States action, what's this going to mean for

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our hemisphere, for our world. Let's first start with the

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legal actions, and I think you can rest assured your

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listeners can rest assured that this was a legal action

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and that there is precedent for this. I harken back

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to the Manuel Noriega incidents. Is in general law back

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in the nineteen nineties. In nineteen eighty nine, as you know,

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your listeners probably remember this was a dictator who operated

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in Panama, who was indicted in the criminal court in

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the United States, faced criminal prosecution. We went down, executed

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an operational law enforcement operation with quasi military, but with

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law enforcement. Apprehended Manuel Noriega, brought it back to Miami,

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was tried, and was imprisoned in the United States. Of course,

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Noriega made a bunch of defenses, of probably the most

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prominent one of which was one you'll assume Nicholas Maduro

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Willisser is the idea of leadership sovereign immunity. Right, I'm

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the leader of a country. I'm the recognized leader of

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a nation. You can't come in as such. You can't

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come in and kidnap me, pull me out and try

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me in the United States. I have a form of

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sovereign immunity. Well, back in the nineties, a district court

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and a US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit

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concluded that that defense was not going to cut it

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for him. Essentially, the United States had not recognized Manoeil

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Morriega as a legitimate leader of Panama and that he

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was in essence ahead of a drug cartel organization. All

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of this, of course is directly applicable to the situation.

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I'm going to say, very similar, because exactly the United

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States just flat out has rejected any presidential title. I said,

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President Maduro production. But it's almost comes with an asterisk

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because he's been regarded internationally as the illegitimate president because

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of the fraud, the voter fraud that took place, right.

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Yeah, absolutely, and he's he's been long characterized. But it's

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been a bipartisan position in the United States, I mean, Trump,

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Biden and Trump have recognized the illegitimacy of his of

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his whatever position that he is not a legitimate leader.

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And Biden, importantly, this is again bipartisan issue. Biden had

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actually increased the bounty on him from fifteen million to

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twenty five million as one of his last events, last

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actions as president in last year.

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So this this is didn't that bounty go up to

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fifty though?

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Yeah, Trump raised it back up to fifty So when

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fifteen twenty five fifty and uh So it's been again

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consistent position in the United States that he's not the

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legitimate leader. And of course that's going to matter in

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the court of law. And so we have a president here.

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So there's the legality, there's the president. Constitutionally, the president

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has the authority to under the take Care Clause to

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ensure that take care that the laws of the United

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States are faithfully executed. People might say, well, why was

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the military involved here? Well, of course the military was

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involved because it needed to provide operational security. The president

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has the authority to utilize the military to support law

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enforcement when they're executing their duties. And of course the

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DEA and FBI were doing the apprehension here, and so

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the military was was necessary. It's not like they can

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just get in their SUVs, drive down the street knock on,

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you know, knock count on the door. They did cuffs

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and throw you down and take you down to the

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local courthouse. You need, you need. The special forces in

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the Delta operated as.

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Well, especially when he was surrounded by a Cuban military,

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right military, and he was in a compound. And again

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going back, just to rewind just a bit, this is

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all predicated on a March twenty, twenty twenty indictment, right.

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Exactly exactly, Yeah, he was, as I said, as you said,

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Maduro was indicted, has been sitting for years. They were

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executing an arrest warrant, a legitimate arrest warrant. There's probable

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cause or to arrest him. And now again he's not

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at GITMO, right, He's not at Guantanamo Bay, He's not

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where Isis or Al Qaeda terrorists were taken. He's in

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the criminal of the US criminal justice system. He's facing

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he's face He had an arraignment up in the Southern

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District of New York just a couple of you know,

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a couple of days ago. So in front of a judge,

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he has really adequate, not even adequate. He has sophisticated,

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highly intelligent, highly capable representation. So does his wife. He's

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going to be afforded all the right is he is

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being afforded all the rights of any criminal accused in

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the United States. So you know, this process is going

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to play out in the coming months and months. I

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say months and years. I mean the appellate process will

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take years.

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But noriega what it took over three years?

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Right, yeah, exactly. And by the time the final well,

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the case, the case that I was talking about, the

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Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals case, that's really going to

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be kind of applicable here with a lot of these issues.

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I think was in the mid nineties, so you're talking

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years and years before it all hashed out. A couple

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of things just to note from from a litigation perspective,

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is again the trials up in New York, so it's

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the Southern District of New York. Those are our most experienced,

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high powered, kind of bulldog ish prosecutors in the Department

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of Justice. Those are the folks that always handle the

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high profile to the extent of which jurisdiction and venue apply.

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Those are the folks.

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Yeah.

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I heard, just as a sidebar that he had requested

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not to be put in the same cell that Epstein

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was in.

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Yeah, exactly. I don't think he's at Rikers Brooklyn or somewhere,

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but yeah, exactly so. But the Southern District of New

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York is trying the case. One interesting thing I think

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somebody's asked me about the judge. Judge is gonna call

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balls and strikes. This is a Clinton judge. This isn't

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somebody who's going to try to impose any kind of

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radical leftism or any kind of agenda in this. He's

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gonna play this probably straight down the middle. He understands

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the enormity of the situation and the importance of it,

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So I'm not really concerned about the judge. One interesting nugget, though,

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I kind of am ruminating on, is the fact that

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it is it is a New York City jury, So

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you never really know what you're gonna get there. I mean,

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you can on one hand, you could get Venezuelans. I mean,

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you could get Cubans, Venezuelans, Colombians, people that hate Maduro

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and recognize how bad a guy he is. That might

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taint their objectivity. On the other hand, you could get

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Mondamie supporters, right, who are just paid radical Antifa insurrectionist

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to oppose anything Donald Trump does. So that's gonna be

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something the Department of Justice is going to have to handle.

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But we'll see how that all plays out and we'll

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talk about it in the coming months. But obviously it

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was from a from a legal perspective, I think the

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Trump administration is on solid legal footing. You know, they're

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gonna the defense. These issues are all going to be

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again litigated and come before the court, and there's going

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to be decisions that are going to have to be

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made on it. But I do think that the prosecution

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is going to be permitted to go forward, and I

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don't think it's going to be thrown out on any

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kind of legal technicality, if you will.

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Well exactly, I think Mamdani might put him on the

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payroll there a Maduro and ask him for socialism advice, right.

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Or housing advice. I mean, what's out, what's coming out

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with some of the people that are in Mandabi's cabinet

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is just terrified.

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This bizarre.

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I don't believe in I don't even know. I don't

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think that anything. It's abject rejection of capitalism in the

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city that's built on capitalism, ironically.

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Right, exactly. Well, but as you say, I think that

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people can be fairly confident, you know, we want to

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be hopeful. Of course, we shouldn't be dissuaded by you know,

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all the pro clutching that will happen on Capitol Hill, right,

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because that's what the Democrats love to do.

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Absolutely, And I think I just saw a couple of

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things this morning about the pool the politics of this.

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I think the American people largely recognize that the professionalism

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and the importance of this, this operation militarily well enforcement

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it was. It was flawless. I mean, it's actually and

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again we can start to transition into a little bit

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of the geopolitical implications here. I think just it just

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shows how great America is. I woke up Saturday morning

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and I was proud. I mean, I was just I

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read this news and my mind was blown that we

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were able to go in there. Ostensibly there were sophisticated

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air defenses in Venezuela via the Chinese and.

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The uh Russians right put it in there.

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He'd surrounded himself with Cubans and it was and yet

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that really didn't seem to deter The United States military

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executed a flawless operation to go in there. And when

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you with the facts are coming out slowly but surely

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now about the details of this operation and the coordination

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and professionalism of the military are really second to none.

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So if you're the Chinese or if you're the Russians,

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you're on your heels. You're saying, holy cow, you know,

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nobody can do what the American military I can do

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this with. I mean, you have this, of course on

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the heels of the Iranian operation. So I think from

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that perspective, obviously the I mean fear respect of our

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adversaries is going to be that much more enhanced based

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on this operation.

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Also, well, let's go to break. We'll pick it up

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As promise we're back with you. Bill Martinez here with

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lear legals, Mike O'Neill. Mike, you know, called Operation Absolute Resolve,

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was this action that Donald Trump had taken with military

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I think what over one hundred and fifty aircraft involved

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and you know, personnel. It's just amazing. And the Democrats

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are complaining and maybe help our audience understand what the

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heck that are they complaining about, because I mean, you know, Fetterman,

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you know, and a couple of other Democrats applauded what

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the President did. But you know, the Democrats, being as

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contrarian as they are, they just can't help themselves.

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Yeah, and I really, I really think they're they're at

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the beck and call of a radical very small segment

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but powerful minority within the Democrat Party that kind of

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is calling the shots here. You want to think that,

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you know, I mean, Chuck Schumer just years ago was

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saying how terrible Nicholas Maduro is and that he represents

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a threat, he's a narco terrorist, et cetera, et cetera,

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was decrying the or a regime, And at some point

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you just begin to think that this is a kabuki

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dance to placate this radical base of the left that

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has infected with Trump Arrangement syndrome virtually anything in everything

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Donald Trump does, no matter what I think. There was

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the joke Donald Trump could cure cancer in the Oval

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office and be a constituency that would come out and

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scream and yell about it. So I think a lot

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of this is just a Washington kabuki dance to placate

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this radical base. And then too, of course they're aware

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of the political ramifications of this that the American people

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like a success. Obviously, we don't want to see ourselves

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bogged down in another Afghanistan or Iraq. We don't want

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to see boots on the ground. But I don't think

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the administration has any intention of doing anything like that.

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I think, at least now we're talking about several days

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after the fact, it looks like they learned their lessons

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from Iraq and are trying to We're ensured. It took

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steps to ensure that there is some sort of some

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sort of elements still within the Venezuelan government that can

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continue to operate the country so it doesn't descend into

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this anarchy or civil war a lah Iraq or Afghanistan.

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Well don't you think that in some sense all things

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have to be on the table because it is dynamic.

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You can't control it. I mean, you left who was

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a vice president who is reportedly more of a communist

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than Maduro, and she was the one that was really

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pulling the strings, supposedly now she's the new president. And

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then meanwhile you have Mashado who was she wasn't elected.

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It was actually her predecessor was elected. In a sense,

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I mean, you've got a percentage of Venezuela saying well,

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he's the legitimate president, and so you still have this

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illegitimate issue. And so are they going to go away quietly?

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I think? You know, with the Cubans, even though they

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surrounded the compound and they've been the military force for Maduro,

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you know, the Cuba is relying on a lot of

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resource is coming out of Venezuela, and so it could

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be a desperate fight for them, don't you think.

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I mean, as you said, anything and everything is on

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the table. I do have some faith in the fact

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that I want to believe that the CIA assessments and

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that the administration's assessments of Postmaduro regime, we're going We're

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built in for this, and so they have some contingency

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planning in the in the pipeline. It seems to me,

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again just looking at the news today, it seems like

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the Secretary of State is fairly confident in the ability

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of these remaining leaders or remaining whomever is in charge

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now of Venezuela to play ball with the United States

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and to understand where the priorities lie. You know, they

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could say one thing to the public and put on

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a face and then probably behind closed doors, could in

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the diplomatic capacity, could acquiesce to the United States knowing

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that at any moment their fate could be those of

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that of Madua. So, you know, there's a lot of

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balls in the air. We're going to have to see

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how this plays out. Obviously, it's a dynamic situation, and

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certainly the CIA our intelligence opera, US, our diploma diplomatic

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apparatus has their work cut out for him. Obviously we

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have the military on station there. But I'd like to

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see this, you know, resolved peacefully and without him having

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to have any additional use of the military, if you will. Right,

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what we've been able to do now is confine this

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to Hey, this is a law enforcement operation abetted by

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the military, by the United States and military. Obviously the

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military has the presence of the Caribbean. But I'd like

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to see you know, the the intelligence apparatus and the

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diplomatic cores being able to resolve this in a manner

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where we don't have to commit additional military resources to Venezuela.

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Well, the good news for them is they've got a

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commander in chief with resolve.

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Yeah, I mean that's a huge difference right there.

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Yeah. And the world has to understand and again I

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go back to what Marco Rubia said and Pete Hegsath said,

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is the world has to understand that Donald Trump does

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what he says he's going to do. And all if

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you're if you're a leader of Venezuela, you have to

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understand if you're not going to play ball with America.

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Your time, the clock is ticking. It's just a matter

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of fact. And if you don't understand that, then you

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have no business being in the position you're in right now. Look,

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he said, he ratchet up the pressure on Maduro. He

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executed it. He ratchet up the pressure on Iran years

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you know, months ago, he executed it. The Iranian regime

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is going to fall. I mean, I don't understand why

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they're not out of the country now. I mean, I

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guess what happens is ego and power and all this

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stuff comes into play. But if you're if you're one

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of the Mullahs in Iran, right now, you're getting out.

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I don't know.

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They're they're packing their bags.

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They should be. I mean, Madua had his opportunity. And again,

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these folks, the window is open right now for these

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folks in Venezuela to play ball with America, and that

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window will close probably. It's it's not indefinite. It's not

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Joe Biden in office. It's Donald Trump. So these folks,

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as I understand, some of these folks also have indictments

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depending on them. So there's nothing to stop us from

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going and grabbing them and bringing them back to the

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United States to face justice. You'll continue to move if necessary.

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But right now they have an opportunity and we'll see,

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we'll see where that takes them exactly.

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Well, is there any any legal jeopardy here for Donald Trump?

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As you see, Well, legal jeopardy.

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I don't necessarily think that political jeopardy. I mean, there's

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always the the Democrats have indicated that they intend to

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impeach him if they if they, uh again, you know,

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for whatever that take over the House. Yeah, if they

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if they succeed in in having a majority of the

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House House of Representatives. So I don't see any legal

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jeopardy for for Trump. Again, the legal the legal Where

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the legalities are going to play in here is well,

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let let's talk about this. One thing is this is

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a newly developing issue. Here is the seizure of the

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Irene the oil. Right, this is this is you know,

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we're a little far a field of the Maduro thing.

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But now that we've seve receives these thirty to fifty

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billion dollars or thirty to fifty million dollars or a

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million barrels of oil or whatever what have you. And

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the question is here is that if we start deriving

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revenue from that, what role does the president have visa

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v Congress with how that how that money is to

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be distributed.

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I know he's already told them, he goes, that's my money.

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I'm going to control that. I think, you know this

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is I'm going to push back a little bit on there.

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There there are, there are applicable laws here, There are

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applicable constitutional principles. If we're going to bring in if

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we're gonna start bringing in revenue from whatever source comes. Remember,

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Congress has the appropriation role. So if we're talking about

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bringing in however this this revenue, it's not it's not

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And again, I you know, I support Donald Trump politically,

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et cetera. But it's not Donald Trump's say in how

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money is appropriated in the United States. It's Congresses say. So,

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if we're bringing in revenue, he doesn't get to scroll

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that away as a Donald Trump slush fund and decide

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where he wants to put that money. That's money, that's

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that belongs to the United States of America and the

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US Treasury. If it's going to the United States Treasury,

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Congress has to say how that money is appropriated. So

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I want to if you're talking about legalities here and

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and issues down the road. I think certainly we want

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to be aware of that one, because again I am

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I understand that clearly delineated role of Congress here is

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to appropriate money if it's coming into the United States Treasury,

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however it's a p However it comes to the United

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States Treasury via executive action. We go into Iraq and

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we managed to seize the gold that Saddam Musin has. Well,

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that's if that's American's money, it's coming to the United

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States Treasury, then Congress has a role on.

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How that money is appropriated, right exactly. And yeah, this

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is uh, it's going to be interesting. I know that

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when the President made that statement, I go, I don't

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think so.

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I understand the inclination too. And certainly, I mean, if

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you understand the personality of Donald Trump, he's going to say, look,

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my money, I'll just send out the first of all,

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I mean, it's also the Venezuelan let's let's be very clear,

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and the priorities here Venezuela US, you know, I mean,

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obviously we recoup our costs, act and our interests, our

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excuse me, our hard power in this context, but really

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we want to build up. We want Venezuela to be

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a thriving, productive ally of the United States of America.

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We don't want it to fall into socialism communism and

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then go run back to China. Intention right, we made

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that mistake once already. Let's not repeat history.

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Yeah, yeah, found a doubt. Well, there's there's lots of

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opportunity here, and I know that's that's what the Venezuelans

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are hoping for. You know, for the most part, there's

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some I mean there's some that are leaving. They're just

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kind of fed up. You know, they don't have any hope.

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They said, Hey, we've been through this dance before and

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I'm just going to get out of here and their

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storm and the gates at Columbia right now.

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Yeah, I hope that they're the one thing. And I

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don't know if I said this earlier, but the thing

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that sets apart Venezuela from like in Iraq and Afghanistan

471
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is that they have a tradition of democracy there. Yes, right,

472
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said A lot of the best and brightest have fled

473
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Venezuela over the past twenty five years because they had

474
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the wherewithal, they had the material and intelligence and wherewithal

475
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to get out of the country because they were for

476
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whatever economic you know, factors factored into it, they were

477
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able to escape that hell scape that has been Venezuela

478
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the last decade or so. So hopefully there'll be some

479
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.839
repatriation of that and some return to the country to

480
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build it back up and again the tradition of democracy.

481
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You have people who know how to build the country

482
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and how to run a country. Six testfully, unlike Iraq

483
00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:04.559
or Afghanistan had been under the yoke of radical Islam

484
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:08.519
or a dictator forever, basically right, So I am, I am.

485
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:10.880
It is a different situation and you have to always

486
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.559
you can't compare Iraq to Venezuela because it's radically different situations.

487
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So I do I would like to see, you know

488
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that a return to you know, not normalcy, but a

489
00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.920
return to capitalism and building it up and accountable democracy,

490
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pro Western democracy, pro American democracy. The opportunities there, let's

491
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not squander it.

492
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Right, Yeah, without a doubt, I'm with you one hundred percent.

493
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Mike O'Neal has been our guest with Landmark Legal. Mike,

494
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thank you appreciate it, take care, happy to your friend.

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Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here. Good to

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have you with us. Also great to have my good

560
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friend Deroy Murdoch, the Fox News Manhattan based Fox contributor, Hey, Deroy,

561
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Happy New Year to you.

562
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:27.559
Bill, Happy new year as well.

563
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:30.960
Hey, A lot going on. I love what Donald Trump does.

564
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.200
He just continues to torment those on the left. I mean,

565
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:39.400
they didn't get much of a vacation. I mean, okay, here,

566
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:44.759
let's let's have you chew on another success in capturing

567
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:50.319
a drug cartel leader who has been killing hundreds of

568
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:54.200
thousands of our young people. And now what are you

569
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going to do about that? Right?

570
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:58.720
Well, you're right about that, and you know this man

571
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.119
never stops. I got on a plane, was in California

572
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visiting my parents and sisters and my family for Christmas,

573
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and I hopped on a plane to come back to

574
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New York on Friday night, January second, and I got

575
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home early in the morning in New York Saturday the third,

576
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:17.680
and I saw something on YouTube about Trump capturing Madera.

577
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.079
I thought it was some exaggeration. YouTube videos always have

578
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.119
a lot of hype adout them, and then I played

579
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a video like, oh wow, it actually happened, no kidding.

580
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So when I was flying across the country at night,

581
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sleeping on a plane, our U S, A G. I

582
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.920
S or second to none were on the ground for

583
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.119
about what three or four minutes all together, and we're able

584
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to go in and sees a Comrade Maduro and his

585
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.000
wife and popping and throwing a chopper get him out

586
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.559
of there. Now they're here in New York where New

587
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York City, where I am waiting indictment trial and so forth.

588
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.599
So and all that happened to that any loss of

589
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American lives, without any injuries, apparently, not even lost American equipment.

590
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.640
I mean, this is about as completely pristine an operation

591
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.279
as I've ever seen. Absolute incredible.

592
00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:59.440
Yeah, Joe Biden's going, how could that happen?

593
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.799
Yeah? Well, maybe he was waiting for Congress to pass

594
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the new law. But you know, all we need is

595
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to have a new president.

596
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.960
Yeah, well the deal is that. I guess the good

597
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news for Comrade Mamdani is he's got a consultant nearby

598
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:13.400
there in the jail that he can go and talk

599
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to about socialism and how it was so darn successful

600
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.319
there because he's got a city to destroy.

601
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:25.440
Well, that's right, and maybe Maduro could give Mandami some

602
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.720
pointers on how to direct the economy of so people

603
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.759
don't have toilet paper. How things can get so bad

604
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.480
as far as food that people start eating their pets

605
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for nutrition. And I think I heard very recently that

606
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I don't know if this is fifty or seventy five

607
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.599
years ago. At some point, I think sometime in the

608
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.920
last century, the per capita income for around the world.

609
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Number one was the US. I think number two was Switzerland.

610
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I think three might have been Canada, I'm not sure.

611
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And I think number four was Venezuela. So it was,

612
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by that measure the fourth wealthiest country on earth. And

613
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with the night that or the morning that our GI

614
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.759
went into Venezuela, there's a country completely backward, totally shut down,

615
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.839
collapsing infrastructure, and as I say, you know, absence of

616
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.720
toilet paper, I mean it's just barbaric. And you know

617
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this is as people like you and I have said

618
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over and over every single place that socialism has been tried,

619
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I brought nothing but poverty, have a chaos and often death,

620
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:24.400
and very often unfortunate mass death. And they've got obviously

621
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.519
huge resources. They've got oil, they've got sunshine and fertile soil.

622
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.720
And despite all that, socialism was able to turn take

623
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.000
the fourth wealthiest country on Earth by measure of per

624
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.799
cap income and turned it into a complete and utter,

625
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.960
total basket case. So you had another time for socialism.

626
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.960
Right exactly. And they've been consistent that way. But yet

627
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.559
you've got some young people that I don't know what

628
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:50.240
the they're delusional or God only knows. You know, we'll

629
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.240
just chalk it up for delusion and give them the

630
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.119
benefit of the doubt. But they want to support guys

631
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:59.640
like Mamdani and these policies that these blue state governors

632
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.359
have been running, you know, their states into the ground.

633
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.759
And now, you know, after Minneapolis, Trump is saying, hey,

634
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.279
we're doing a lookxie on all these governors where you know,

635
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.519
we've been sending these federal funds and we're gonna we're

636
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.640
going to do an audit. Let's let's make sure that

637
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.920
you know that money is doing good and not going

638
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:24.759
to you know, to children, you know, children's centers, learning

639
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.319
learning centers that are spelled incorrectly.

640
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.079
Lyric lyric centers, yeah, ellering centers exactly. Well, you know,

641
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.319
we just heard, just learned a couple of days ago

642
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.880
that when Joe Biden was president, he apparently issued some

643
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.160
new rule that said that these daycare centers, health centers,

644
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.839
all these NGOs and or people who suck off the government.

645
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.920
The daycare centers were able to get paid on the

646
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.160
basis of student enrollment, not student attendance. So you just

647
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.160
have to say, hey, we've got you know, seventy five

648
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.640
kids in are old here, two or three show up,

649
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.880
one or two, zero show up, and you still get paid.

650
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:58.920
So even just a simple thing like hey, send us

651
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.000
your monthly again in sheets, or send it once a

652
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:04.559
year or something nothing like that. And I think a

653
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.839
lot of this stuff, some of it is incompetent, but

654
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.319
I think some of it, frankly is basically. Look, they

655
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.759
can't just outright pay bribes per se to their pals

656
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:14.440
on the left, but they can make it easy for

657
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.079
them to apply for all sorts of funds not look

658
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.359
very carefully. Let them take as much cash as they can,

659
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.079
turn around and donate some of that back to Democrat

660
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:23.839
politicians at National Committee.

661
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.880
That's my yeah, that's my question is how much VEG

662
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:27.400
is in it?

663
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You got it, yep. And then you've got in addition

664
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.920
to the money that ends up in candidate's pockets. I'm

665
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.000
sure that people who work at these leering centers will

666
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.880
show up and vote Democrat when they have the opportunities.

667
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.359
Some of them will knock on doors, man phone banks,

668
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:41.599
and it's it's all just you know, pay pay off

669
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.400
the political machine to keep the keep the votes rolling

670
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.400
in every every time that there's an election. It's just disgusting.

671
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.079
It's it's third orld level corruption in the United States

672
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.200
of America. It's it's shameful. And the people who do it,

673
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.200
I'm spepicking of the phrase hell to account that sounds

674
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.640
an exercise an accounting class. Uh. These people need to

675
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.160
be in jail. They need to be breaking rock. These

676
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.200
people need to be buy in bars. I want to

677
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.079
see punishment. I want to see anybody who's got a

678
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.079
law license, it should be revoked. And people, any lawyers

679
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.840
in boldness should be disbarred. People who have any kind

680
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.119
of teaching licenses or social work licenses, whatever, those have

681
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.719
to be revoked. These people have to be punished for

682
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.079
their evil crime. One of the most disgusting things going

683
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.679
on in Minneapolis. And three cheers to make surely the

684
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.000
twenty three year old journist who dug up all this stuff.

685
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.320
Some of the money was taken from funds that were

686
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.280
dedicated to help autistic children. You basically, people stealing from

687
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.079
autistic kids. Doesn't get any more disgusting than that. And

688
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.400
people say, oh, you know, people on our side were

689
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.440
the fascists and the Nazis and where the racists and

690
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:41.320
we're evil blah blah blah. I can't think of anything more.

691
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.320
There's some things, but way up on that listeners, evil

692
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.480
things stealing from autistic kids, and not just one hundred

693
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.519
dollars or two undred dollars, but millions and even millions of dollars.

694
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.280
This is shameful and vile, and again the people who

695
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.480
do this need to be thrown mind bars for a

696
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:56.119
long time.

697
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:58.960
Well, you know, look what's happening in Iran. The people

698
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.239
are revolting there becau as they're tired and fed up

699
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.280
of being ripped off. I keep thinking, okay, when is it?

700
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.559
When is too much for the American taxpayer. They've been

701
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.119
ripped off three days to Sunday, and as if that's

702
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:14.599
not enough, they are saddled with a thirty eight trillion

703
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:18.760
dollar debt and counting. And meanwhile, the wheels on the

704
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:20.639
bus keep going round and round. The stuff that you

705
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.480
and I are talking about there's no stopping it. I mean,

706
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.480
it is so systemic deroy and unless they're serious about it,

707
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.119
and like you said, people start getting disbarred, they get

708
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.679
thrown into jail, and not just you know, do a

709
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.440
Tim Waltz. Well, I'm not going to run because I

710
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don't want to hurt I don't want to hurt my state. No,

711
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you've already hurt the state, all right, loved.

712
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Paint, all righty? Absolutely? And what do I find it

713
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.760
just fascinating and kind of almost nauseating, is people unless

714
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.960
the well, Nick Shirley's a conspiracy theorist, he's making all

715
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this uff, he's lying, he's a racist, all that. And

716
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.079
then as part of their argument to say, and after

717
00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.119
all their sixty people have been convicted fraud already, to

718
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.159
tell me that there is no fraud and the proof

719
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of the lack of fraud is the fact that people

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00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.800
have been convicted for convicted for fraud and therefore, therefore

721
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.440
Nick Shirley's inventing this when you actually have people who

722
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have been convicted and I think of the people convicted,

723
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eighty nine percent of them happen to be from Minneapolis

724
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.280
Somali community. So this isn't just you know, four or

725
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five six people. What this is is basically an organized

726
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.880
crime conspiracy. I mean, this is like the Gambinos or

727
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.920
the Columbos of the Caseys, except their people from Somalia.

728
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This is organized crime by an ethnic group and that

729
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that city and that that state, who are large numbers dominant.

730
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I'm sure they're decent, honest, law binding Somali's the boy,

731
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.199
there are a lot of them. Were crooked And the

732
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fact that people are looking into this doesn't make them

733
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racist or anti Muslim or whatever it is. These are

734
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:48.480
people who are trying to track down crime, conspiracy, theft

735
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tax payer money. And if they happen to be Somali,

736
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.360
that's not the fault of the people looking into it.

737
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It's the fault of the perpetrators. And people who perpetrate,

738
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at whatever their nationality or ethic background is need to

739
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pay the price and they need brought to trial into convicted.

740
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Mayby'd be thrown behind bars for a long long time.

741
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.519
Isn't there some onus on the law abiding Muslims there

742
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.199
in the Somalis, you know, to where they say, hey,

743
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look at in spite of the pressure, and you know,

744
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.039
the tribalism because there's tribalism that happens there in those

745
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local communities. In spite of that, you know, we want

746
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to have a you know, a nice living. We love America,

747
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.360
we love the opportunity, and these guys are messing it

748
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up for us. Doesn't it? Is there some onus whatsoever

749
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on them? Or are they just they're all complicit in

750
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.039
this deal with whether it's Waltz or the mainstream media,

751
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local law enforcement on down.

752
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Well, look, I think you're obviously right. It would be

753
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it would be in the interests of the law abiding

754
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.800
Somalis to say, look, this isn't us, this doesn't represent us.

755
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.840
These are terrible people. By the way, here's where they are,

756
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:56.519
here's we can find them. An excellent alter or sort

757
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.400
of parallel to this, was back in the nineteen eighties

758
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.599
when Rudy Giuliani was the US Attorney in New York City,

759
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and he is a guy of Italian backer. His name

760
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is Giuliani, I mean it's not an Irish name. He

761
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led the charge to go after the mob and rounded

762
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up people in the mob families, put them on trial

763
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through a which of these guys buying bars And I

764
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moved here in nineteen eighty seven. I can tell you

765
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this city is a lot less mobbed up than he

766
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used to be before Giuliani came to town. And I think,

767
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to your exact point, people when they see a guy

768
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like Giuliani locking up the Gambinos and the Dapper Don

769
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and other folks like this, they think, well, gee, I

770
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:35.880
guess maybe the Italians aren't all mobsters. Some of them

771
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.000
are actually decent, law abiding people. And that's the kind

772
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.519
of thing you ought to be seeing from people in

773
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the Somali community in Minneapolis. Thing. Look, you know, we've

774
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got some bad apples among us. We're going to turn

775
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him in, and please don't paint all of us of

776
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the broad brush. But I've not seen much of that.

777
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Maybe there are some people that are making that point,

778
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but I've seen them for the most part, you know,

779
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circling wagons around these people. When Nick Shirley was going

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to these fake daycare centers, youet people suddenly showing up

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Welcome back, Bill Martinez here with Roy Murdoch, the Manhattan

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based Fox News contributor. You know, Deroy, as we were

867
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saying before we went to break is you know people

868
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are real quiet. You know the people that should know better,

869
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I mean elan Omar, I'm not hearing anything.

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From her, really quiet.

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Yeah, whether it's Allison or I mean, they just seem

872
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to want to somehow defend the mess, the fraud that's

873
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been taking place or maybe you know, try to mitigate

874
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it in some form. But you know, because of the

875
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pressure of a twenty three year old citizen journalist, you know,

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which I think in and of itself has to be

877
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the indictment on you know, the media complex.

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Well, you know, Nick Shirley is, as you said, as

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a independent guys just twenty three. Only two years ago

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he was able to legal a drink, but he's in Mormons.

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He doesn't drink, and he doesn't have you know, a

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vast resources and an entire newsroom and a whole bunch

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of dozens of different journalists go in and do things.

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He does this pretty much on his own with himself

885
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a tiny handheld microphone and either a camera or a

886
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cell phone camera, I'm not sure which. And he did

887
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very simple just just to find the names of these

888
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and he did it with the assistance of an activist

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in Minneapolis find the names of these so called and.

890
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At that local activist has been around forever and he's

891
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been blowing the whistle for what, you know, the last

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ten years roughly.

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I think, yeah, somebody finally listened, right, yeah, and so

894
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manyway he and Nick Shirley. Basically I think this is

895
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somewhere in the last couple of weeks, maybe on Christmas time,

896
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went around knocked on doors at these daycare centers to

897
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see if anybody worked there, and he found multiple places

898
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which were closed, nobody answered the phone, the windows were

899
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covered over with paper or with you know, black garbage bags,

900
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whatever it is. Sometimes they'd open the doors. Nobody was there.

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And he didn't do anything fancy, you know, he didn't

902
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get search warrants whatever. He just went and did very

903
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simple basic journalism, which is knock on doors, see if

904
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anybody opens, and ask him. You know, he said he

905
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had a son of don't know if he hasn't believe

906
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he does, but saying that he had a son and

907
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I'd like to register my son Joey do daycare, and

908
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almost all these books that I we can't do it.

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We can't help you. Sorry, you don't have any information

910
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on that. And if they were legitimate daycare centerment and

911
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say okay, here's an application, or hey, we're all full,

912
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but you know, call us back in September. Here's the

913
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phone number. Most of them just either slammed the door

914
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in his face, didn't open it, or had nothing constructive

915
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to tell them, which says to me, these aren't legitimate businesses,

916
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.719
these or just giant corruption mills.

917
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.719
Well, I want to transition to something you're writing about

918
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here again, and that is this virtue signaling by these billionaires.

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I'll admit Romney and others who just you know, they're

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they're saying, oh, yeah, you know that the wealthy people,

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they should be paying their fair share and all that,

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you know, which transcends and transitions that everybody, everybody's taxes

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would go up. And I'm saying, well, you know, if

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you care that much about the taxes and you feel

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your tax return if you want you know, some money

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because somehow you feel guilty or whatever you want to do.

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But even just out of good benevolence, you just say, hey,

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look at I want to I want to donate, you know,

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some of my money to the government. Uh maybe you know,

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to pay down the debt, you know, I want this

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to pay down the debt, or I wanted to, you know,

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maybe pay off Congress's debt for all io use from

934
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Social Security. Right.

935
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Yeah, this is the as you say, virtual signaling on

936
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the part of various billionaires Warren Buffett has done this

937
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over the years. One of Walt Disney's had granddaughters as well,

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and in their latest has met Romney a few weeks ago.

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He came out and said, basically, hey, rich people like me,

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how to pay more taxes. If Romney feels guilty it

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wants to hand over his money, that's fine. But the

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please raise taxes on everybody, which I think is just

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a very very strange, kind of twisted psychological projection. I

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think we got to make it very easy. I suggested

946
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.679
something in this article which is in the Daily Signal.

947
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.239
I call it the hot Hot Hot tax, which is

948
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:41.360
short for higher rate optional tax. And it's very simple,

949
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:42.960
and it would be something that you put on the

950
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.039
ten forty form line. We have thirty eight lines and one

951
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.960
more line, line thirty nine, and we read as fellows,

952
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:52.320
if you're being taxed at a rate lower than what

953
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.239
you wish to pay, please enter your desired high rate

954
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.360
multiplier AGI just to gross income by that number and

955
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:02.840
enter the relevant total out to Washington pronte unquote. And

956
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:04.719
if somebody like Mitt Romney thinks, hey, you know my

957
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.800
thirty five percent tax rate or whatever is too low.

958
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:09.880
I'd really like to pay a forty five or fifty

959
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.440
or sixty or seventy five percent tax rate. Just put

960
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.000
that number in multiplied by justin gross income, sending that money,

961
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.440
and he can take whatever guilty has, get it off

962
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.440
his back, and deal with his anxiety without raising Deroy

963
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.239
Murdocs taxes or Bill Martinez's taxes, or Elen of Musks

964
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.760
taxes or anybody else. This is how they ought to

965
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.400
do it. But instead these people just militate to see

966
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.400
everyone's taxes raised, and the left unfortunately uses that concept

967
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.840
to say, okay, we have to have tax increases on everybody.

968
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.039
If we put the hot tax as an option on

969
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.519
the ten forty four, these people can pay whatever tax

970
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.719
rate they like, sending the money if they wish, and

971
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:47.159
leave the rest of us alone and let those of

972
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:48.679
us who want to keep more more money do so.

973
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:50.599
Everybody should be happy if that happens.

974
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.599
Well, you know, and you think about I guess in

975
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.760
the term of equity when it comes to paying tax,

976
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.000
guys that make billions of dollars have all kinds of

977
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.840
ways to skirt around and to mitigate you know taxes

978
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.760
and uh, you know they they do this willfully. Uh

979
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.639
you know, and it's legal. You know, nobody's going to

980
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.440
jail over it. And that's that's okay. But like you said, uh,

981
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.519
if they have a conscience and feel like they should

982
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.199
pay more than go ahead and do it. And and individually,

983
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.039
but you know, uh, the rest of us who do

984
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.079
not have billions of dollars to play with, and they're

985
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:28.360
playing on a different ball field as opposed to what

986
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.760
we we play play on. And this is why I

987
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.440
I've always been a proponent of flat tax. Just you know,

988
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.199
there's a flat tax rate. Everybody pays the same thing,

989
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.519
and you're going to pay it, you know, and uh,

990
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.559
and you think about how much money you'd save and

991
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:48.199
and probably nights of a better sleep that you'd get

992
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:52.639
in dealing with less attorneys and uh, tax analysts and everything.

993
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.760
Right, you're right about that. And I have a proposal

994
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.840
and an editor too, which which what we call what

995
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.719
to call the zero ten one hundred tax. Zero is

996
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.000
the number of deductions, ten is the tax rate that

997
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:06.440
would apply to your income, and one hundred percent is

998
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:11.199
the number of the percentage of able bodied, clear thinking

999
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:14.159
American adults would pay the tax. And if you're a

1000
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.079
beggar on the street and you're living on two hundred

1001
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.039
dollars a year, you're going to send your twenty dollars in.

1002
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:19.960
Now you may get five or ten or fifteen or

1003
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.840
twenty thousand dollars in public assistance. But everybody has to

1004
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.960
chip in. Everybody has to have skin in the game.

1005
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:29.079
Everybody has to pay. And if we have no write offs,

1006
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.599
we avoid all this thing. And even people like Mitt

1007
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.719
Romney and Bill Gates and Warm Buffet everybody else, if

1008
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:36.320
they had to pay ten percent tax, they'd all pay

1009
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:38.920
ten percent tax. We'd all say it's fair, and there

1010
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.559
would be no marginally higher tax. So you would the

1011
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.559
more money you make, you still pay ten percent. So

1012
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.960
there's no just incentive to making more money, which you

1013
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:48.360
have now where you may make more money. All of

1014
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.159
a sudden, you're a higher bracket and you think, well,

1015
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:51.719
I don't want to pay higher brackets. So let me

1016
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.719
just not open that factory, let me not do that

1017
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.519
extra work, let me not sign that extra contract, whatever

1018
00:50:57.559 --> 00:50:59.559
it is. That'd be nice and simple, and I think

1019
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:03.119
it'd be the end of the tax accounting business. But

1020
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.159
I think that's a small price to pay. What that

1021
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.800
would give us a nice, easy, clean, flat taxi? You say,

1022
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.039
that would allow the conomy to boom and let us

1023
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.280
all spend a lot less time in either April or

1024
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.199
October having to sell it in tax forums, deal with

1025
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:18.360
the countants, sift through receipts, et cetera.

1026
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.440
Yeah, and you could probably find better jobs for those

1027
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:26.079
eighty seven thousand IRS employees that Joe Biden want to

1028
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.639
add on the dole, right, you know.

1029
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:31.880
You could they do much better things with their lives.

1030
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.880
Or you know I would do is just give each

1031
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:35.920
of them one hundred thousand dollars bonus, say looking at

1032
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.039
it one time, bonus, you know, go get to some

1033
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:42.079
grad school, go by yourself a fishing boat, go to

1034
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:44.280
Vegas and put it all on red. Whatever you want

1035
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.840
to do, and we shake your hand, we give you

1036
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:48.559
a little goal watch, we thank you for your service,

1037
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:49.599
and send you on your merry way.

1038
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:54.360
Right, exactly three minutes left, let's talk Greenland. I'm glad

1039
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.199
that's back in the headlines again. I think I like

1040
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.480
the idea from day one, you know, from a national

1041
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.320
security effort, And why wouldn't Why wouldn't the Greenies want

1042
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:05.679
to be part of the United States of America.

1043
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:08.360
Well, you know they're They're part of Denmark, and if

1044
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.360
they want to are Denmark, that's fine. I'm a one

1045
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.719
hundred percent in agreement with the idea that if we

1046
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.800
can have a US military or NATO presence in Greenland

1047
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.760
to deter the Russians and Chinese, that's a good thing.

1048
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:19.880
But the way the president is going out I think

1049
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:23.440
is terrible. I mean, he shouldn't be talking about possibly

1050
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.679
seizing it military operation to grab Greenland. Greenland is part

1051
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.800
of Denmark. Denmark is a NATO power, is an ally.

1052
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.559
They fought the shoulders shoulder with US and various engagements

1053
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:35.679
around the world. We got to be talking about them.

1054
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:37.840
You know, gee, what what INSATU is going We offer

1055
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.519
you to put in bases, can we pay you for that?

1056
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:40.760
Like?

1057
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:44.119
Can we exchange it for whatever security guarantees they want.

1058
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:45.920
I mean, if it's done voluntarily, that's great. But this

1059
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.039
whole notion of if you've got NATO, our NATO allies

1060
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:51.639
putting out statements saying, you know, we don't want to

1061
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.719
be innovated. Denmark and Greenland are sovereign countries. They shouldn't

1062
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:56.880
be bullied by the United States of America. We shouldn't

1063
00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:00.199
be talking ever about attacking our own NATO allies. We're

1064
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.119
talking about them, you know, Venezuela or Iran or some

1065
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.239
hostile power. That's one thing that friends shouldn't talk to

1066
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.519
friends that way. So I think the way the present's

1067
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.599
gone about it is really completely misguided. He ought to

1068
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:12.119
be able to sit down and talk to these people

1069
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.760
and in a very calm, relaxed way and say, look,

1070
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:16.639
what can we work out that allow us to put

1071
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.840
bases to protect NATO, protect the West, protect Denmark, protect

1072
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.480
Greenland from other Russians in Chinese and do it in

1073
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:25.880
a way that makes everybody happier than leaves people scared.

1074
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.840
And with our NATO allies putting out statements and meeting

1075
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:30.239
with each other, I think, oh my god, we're going

1076
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.239
to be invaded by the United States America. That's very unhealthy.

1077
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:35.440
And then that's going about it absolutely the wrong way.

1078
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:40.280
Well, Trump, Trump's a negotiator, and this is you know,

1079
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:43.599
like in any kind of negotiation, there's always that opening bid, right,

1080
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:48.840
and as crazy it can sound, you know, I kind

1081
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:50.920
of understand, but I'm like you, I mean, I'm sensitive

1082
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:55.599
as like, why you're just you're just creating problems for yourself.

1083
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:57.760
I mean, there's got to be the way because because

1084
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.119
in the end, in the end game, I mean, the

1085
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.280
way he operates, it's always kind of from a win

1086
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:05.920
win proposition, and that's the way it always ends. But

1087
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.840
I don't know, maybe he just got bored one night

1088
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:11.400
and thought, Okay, let's just throw something out there that's

1089
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.559
kind of crazy. But I'm I'm not I'm not for

1090
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.519
attacking alienating our allies.

1091
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:20.119
Well, let's scare our enemies rather than scare of friends.

1092
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.159
About that, I think, Yeah, that's that's kind of enough.

1093
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:23.840
That's pretty good principle, I think.

1094
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:26.719
But I think the bottom line is is that I

1095
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.199
think we would do better. You know, America would do

1096
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.800
better in serving Greenland than Denmark. Denmark is I mean,

1097
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:36.960
Greenland's kind of become the almost a forgotten step child,

1098
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:38.760
don't you think.

1099
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.039
Yeah, it's the biggest isle in the world other than Australia,

1100
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:44.360
believe yeah, And it's finding you look at the map,

1101
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.519
that little tiny Denmark and then you've got this territory

1102
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.039
of Greenland which is about half the size and exe

1103
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.039
sits America like the size of Alaska practically or something

1104
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.119
like this. It's really quite something way. A lot of

1105
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:57.360
minerals there that's got tremendous mineral wealth that may ever

1106
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.039
earth I believe it might have perhaps that's oil. So

1107
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.559
there are a lot of minerals there. And if we

1108
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.159
can work something out that we give the Danes in

1109
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.519
the Greenland folks, you know, nice percentage royalties on that,

1110
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.599
I'm sure that make their lives a lot better too.

1111
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.400
Well. Yeah, we always got to look for a better way,

1112
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.199
and I think that ultimately, I think Trump will arrive there.

1113
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.000
But yeah, sometimes his bravado and rhetoric can be you know,

1114
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:24.480
it's kind of like who was it, Oh gosh, the

1115
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:28.960
congressman Ryan, he says that every day, you know, back

1116
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.320
in the days when he was the Leader of the House,

1117
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.320
he just said that every day he looked to the

1118
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:39.079
Twitter to see how else he had to defend something

1119
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:40.559
that Donald Trump had said.

1120
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:43.719
Yeah, Paul Ryan, you may bring up a good point,

1121
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.480
which is, people like us, for the most part, support

1122
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.920
President Trump, and it doesn't make our lives easier to

1123
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:49.719
defend him and his policies and we have to run

1124
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:51.880
out and comment on this or g are we really

1125
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:53.960
got to invade Denmark, and what do the Danes think?

1126
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:56.280
And are the people from Greenland that have to get

1127
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.000
you know, air rag shelters to hide from incoming American

1128
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.760
bombers over there. You know, we're talking about this right now,

1129
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.400
and you and I can be talking about cutting taxes

1130
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:07.039
or improving healthcare, or celebrating in fact the border is closed,

1131
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.320
or celebrating the fact that homicides apparently are down the

1132
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.360
last year dramatically thanks to the President Trump's anti crime policies.

1133
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.159
Meant to be talking about that, and it's here we

1134
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.440
are talking about Greenland, and it was President Trump's renter

1135
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.920
counter productive. So it just it creates work where we

1136
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.480
shouldn't have work creating, because we have enough work to

1137
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:26.400
do as it is already.

1138
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:30.599
Yeah, exactly. Meanwhile, the affordab ability issue is being attacked.

1139
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:34.039
Price of oil gone down. I mean I'm paying less

1140
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:35.679
than two fifty a gallon here in Florida.

1141
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:39.800
Now, wow, it's fantastic. Yeah, and its keep going down.

1142
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.599
And if Venezuela and oil comes online, he'll go down

1143
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.639
even further. Yeah, with all of the things.

1144
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.920
Well, he is the Fox News contributor based in Manhattan.

1145
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:50.960
Of course, the one and only de Roy murdoct de

1146
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.559
Roy thanks has always appreciated. Happy New Year, my friend.

1147
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:55.360
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Getting America back on Track Bill Martinez Live.

1169
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.639
Hey, Good morning America. Bill Martinez here. Great to have

1170
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:12.920
you with us. We've got Scott Wheeler going to be

1171
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:17.159
joining us. Scott is an accomplished investigative reporter, author of

1172
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.039
two books. It has worked many mediums newspaper reporter and editor,

1173
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:25.679
as wellis chief correspondent for American Investigator television magazine. Scott,

1174
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:27.039
welcome back. Good to have you with us.

1175
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:28.719
How are you so good to be with you?

1176
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:29.519
Bill on fine?

1177
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.320
Thanks well, thank you for sending me this video that

1178
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:35.199
you did. You know, we talk about the biggest lie

1179
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:39.000
of the century, the tentacles. I mean, when you think

1180
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about this lie, what makes it so big? It kind

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of reminded me of you know, people who would collect

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tinfoil and now they would roll it into a ball,

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or collect a bunch of rubber bands and just you know,

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they would accumulate them in such a way that they

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would grow and become a humongous network and just extremely proportional.

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And this this is what this lie has done. It

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is just so well, it's so pernicious, but all encompassing

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that includes, you know, the political the mainstream media parts

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of our government all intertwined in this biggest lie of

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the century, right it is.

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It's pretty amazing what they what they've gotten away with.

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And now we're we're I'm just seeing the their lackeys

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out on x now repeating the January sixth lie, which

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was also another Democrat Party orchestrated event. Not to say

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that there weren't Trump supporters there who were engaged in

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bad behavior, but the Democrats had something planned for January sixth,

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and I happened to be there because I expected to

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run into an Antifa there, and the Democrats deny that

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ant if I was there, I talked to them, I

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interviewed them, I took pictures of them. We have videotape

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vantia at the Capitol and so so much of everything

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the Democrat Party has done and been doing for a

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01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.719
long time is a series of lies. And they've been

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very effective in convincing the the so called news media

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to report it the way they want it reported.

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Yeah, well, they didn't need to convince the mainstream media.

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They were already in they've been you know, they.

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Had not suggesting otherwise, but just saying that they've got

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their their own credibility problem. Their Democrats to the core.

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They're not liberal, they're Democrat party hacks, but at some

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point they have to reevaluate whether or not they're going

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to have any credibility left by sticking to this party.

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And if Republicans had any uh it, had the the wisdom,

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01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.239
they would go out and explain these things, investigate and

1215
01:00:56.320 --> 01:01:02.559
point out the massive contradictions in everything they did. And I,

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01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:07.719
you know, shockingly I told a ten year back in

1217
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:13.480
twenty seventeen, after I had uncovered at all of this

1218
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:18.360
about Putin and Obama, I went to Republicans and said,

1219
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.039
why aren't you guys using this as evidence that the

1220
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Democrats are lying? They've never been at war with Russia.

1221
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.760
They've never They've always considered Putin an ally. Why in

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01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.039
the world is anyone pointing this out? They just never

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Oh they laughed at all.

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That's it.

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Oh yeah, I know, and that's it. They're just not

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they're light well some of them are Democrats.

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01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:47.599
Well until Trump, they didn't know how to use that information, right,

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Trump and the only one, and he's kind of teaching

1229
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:54.880
them by example how to use this information and how

1230
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:58.880
it's being exposed now. And you know, like I said,

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01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:03.800
it's like again, I'm envisioning just this big ball of

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you know, you know, rubber bands, just all accumulating, and

1233
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it's all it's all part of the democratic apparatic. Yes.

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And if Republicans are not able to explain to people,

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to voters, to your average voters who believe or at

1236
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:28.920
least partially believe some of the stuff, you can't believe

1237
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.599
anything they say, because look at what the most obvious

1238
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:34.519
things they've lied to you about.

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01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:35.760
Look at the.

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01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:39.519
Most ridiculous things they tried to sell the You know,

1241
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:42.719
Adam Shipp, one of the leading one of the leading

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01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:48.239
proponents of the Russia inclusion story. I had videotape of

1243
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:53.159
him on Russia Today from twenty thirteen bragging about how

1244
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:56.079
he had introduced a bill in the House where he

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01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:58.760
was at the time in the House, to make it

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more difficult for the US government to spy on Russia.

1247
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:07.280
That was Adam Schiff, the guy the leading proponent of

1248
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:12.639
promulgating the Russia collusion narrative with Trump. And yet nobody

1249
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:16.960
I've sent that video out, nobody has used it. The

1250
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:19.760
Republicans haven't used it. They haven't used it to call

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ship a trader, and you know, nobody has done any

1252
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:27.519
of these things. It seems like it's insurmountable that we're

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ever going to maintain power here in Washington. Conservatives, that is,

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01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:34.960
they're going to be able to maintain power if they

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do not learn how to use evidence and weaponize it

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against the corrupt Democrat Party.

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Well, it's like the Democrats are at war with the Republicans,

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01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.239
but the Republicans don't realize that they're in a war.

1259
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.760
No, they don't. And I've said for years, said for

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decades even that Democrats call Republicans note and fascists. Republicans

1261
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.039
call them their good friends and colleagues.

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Yeah, there's no.

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Understanding of what they're up against.

1264
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.719
Right. Well, I think that Trump is opening their eyes

1265
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.519
to see more about what's going on, and some of

1266
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:21.719
these you know, politicians are being held accountable, whether it's

1267
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:24.920
even with the Mark Kelly deal recently. I mean that

1268
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:29.639
videotape that he did as a retired officer in the military.

1269
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.000
I mean that was seditious. I mean, if Trump would

1270
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.119
have done anything like that, oh my goodness. I mean,

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01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:39.039
if they the Democrats were in power, they would they'd

1272
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be impeaching him the kingdom.

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01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.239
Come yeah, I said the exact same thing. If Trump

1274
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.599
had done something like that, they would have considered it

1275
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:49.719
the worst crime in history. And the fact that they're

1276
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.920
pretending now that it was just a simple observation. They

1277
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:58.199
know and as I pointed out, Democrats, any military action

1278
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:02.719
that a Republican president takes, Democrats always question the legality

1279
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.119
of it, just like they're questioning the Venezuluel in operation

1280
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:12.480
now that puts all of these military personnel I was

1281
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:18.000
once won myself. They're in this predicament to question am

1282
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.519
I doing something that's illegal now? And so for them

1283
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:25.599
to try and pretend like this was some harmless observation

1284
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:29.440
that they were making. That all troops know that they're

1285
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:32.760
not supposed to obey an illegal order, they've just made

1286
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:37.000
it more murky. And they knew very well what they

1287
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.079
were doing. It was not this this thing that they

1288
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:40.840
claim it was.

1289
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.360
Well, when you're in a combat situation, as you know, Scott,

1290
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:49.119
you can't pause, you have to react. And what they

1291
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:53.679
did is they put a wrench in the works, you know.

1292
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:58.280
And by doing this, I mean, this is it's egregious

1293
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:03.559
and they all deserve to be you know, to be chastised,

1294
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.480
to be censured. Whatever it is that can be done,

1295
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:10.360
you know, a reduction in rank that Heseth is proposing

1296
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:13.119
for Mark Kelly, God bless them, make it happen. There's

1297
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.519
got to be consequences. The reason they keep doing this

1298
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:16.719
is because they get away with it.

1299
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:21.039
They get away with it, and if nothing else, the media,

1300
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:26.239
the so called press corps, news media, should be asking

1301
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:29.519
them questions. You pull up even now, just the the

1302
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:34.960
Caracas operation. Why aren't they saying were you telling so

1303
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:38.199
your your party is saying that this was an illegal operation?

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01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:41.960
Or were you telling soldiers they should have second guest

1305
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:46.119
those orders make them answer these questions, and they never

1306
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.719
have and until and now, you know, you notice that

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01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:54.079
the CBS sixty minutes thing with the very wise, the

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01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:56.960
Democrats sense that they're about to lose some of their

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power over CBS News and they are going into overdrive.

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Now they're attacking Weiss, they're attacking everybody top to bottom

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over at CBS, claiming it's now ur right wing Fox

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News operation.

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Right exactly, and well, we got to go to quick break.

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They are Bill Martinez here with Scott Wheeler. The accomplished

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investigative reporter and author of two books. He's worked in

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many mediums as a newspaper reporter and editor, as well

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as chief correspondent for American Investigator television magazine. Scott, you know,

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as you were saying that, you know, the electorate has

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just been bombarded with so many lives in deception, and

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it seems to come primarily from one party more than

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the other. And I know that it sounds partisan to

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make that statement, but when you start looking back at history,

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whether it's Obamacare, you can keep your doctor, it's not

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going to cost you more, it's going to cost you less.

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The Afghanistan withdrawal. I mean, there's just been you know,

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the Russian collusion deal, which people knew on its face.

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I think instinctively, anybody that had any kind of basic

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01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:51.000
moxy about this understood that this was all a ploy.

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01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:56.119
Hillary Clinton was a tool. I mean, Putin had fun

1417
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:59.079
with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. He didn't take them

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01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:03.520
seriously and that was quite obvious. And for you know,

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01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:08.399
for Russia to want to side with Trump more than

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01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:12.279
Hillary Clinton as a joke, the Russians would have much

1421
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rather have dealt with Hillary Clinton because they would have

1422
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:16.800
gotten away with so much more. Right.

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They had a they had a file, they had a

1424
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.760
blackmail file on Clinton. They wanted her to win. The

1425
01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:28.960
best we can we can point to is several things

1426
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:31.479
in the Mollar Report that no one will talk about.

1427
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They claim the Mollar Report vindicated their claims about Trump

1428
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and putin the reality is in the Mollar Report itself.

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01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:42.600
It was written by a hardcore Democrat party operative work

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01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:46.680
for Molar and in the report it said on the

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01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:50.399
day they had from reliable sources after Trump won the election,

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Houtin gathered an emergency meeting among his closest advisors to

1433
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.520
find out if they knew anybody who was close to Trump.

1434
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:02.680
And that was in Muller Report. Nobody will talk about that.

1435
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:06.479
It was actually pointed out by a left wing professor

1436
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:12.399
who was a Russia studied Russian and he pointed it

1437
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.680
out in a leftist publication. I believe it was the

1438
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:16.800
Nation magazine.

1439
01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:18.239
But that is.

1440
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:23.960
We are the Democrats can tell a lie, pretend to

1441
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:29.199
believe the lie, and there's nobody willing to come after

1442
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:32.600
them and demand that they come clean. There's no ambush

1443
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:37.920
interviews out there demanding that Democrats answer questions that they

1444
01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:41.920
could not possibly answered. I was doing it myself in

1445
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:46.359
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, when the Russia inclusion stuff was

1446
01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:48.680
coming round. I wrote a piece for Forbes about it,

1447
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:52.720
and I was asking if Democrats are concerned about Russia

1448
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:55.640
and Putin, if they think he's really as bad as

1449
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:58.439
they say he is. Where were they when Obama was

1450
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:03.840
surrendering all sorts of things to put We pulled missile

1451
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:05.880
sites out of the out of Poland in the Czech

1452
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:09.600
Republic exam. Nobody said word. I was the only one

1453
01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:12.840
writing about this at the time, and at the time

1454
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:15.800
it was happening, I said, why is Obama? There were

1455
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:19.840
people I could I can't mention any names, so I

1456
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:23.319
can tell you there were high level intelligence people who

1457
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:28.399
questioned whether or not Obama was a kgb asset from

1458
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:32.039
the old Cold War days, that he was someone they groomed.

1459
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:36.399
That's how bad his collusion with Putin was during his

1460
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:39.840
eight years in office, and Democrats didn't say a word

1461
01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:42.560
about it. And if anyone had mentioned it, they would

1462
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:43.760
have called you a McCarthy.

1463
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:46.279
I so exactly.

1464
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:49.840
It's ridiculous that they got away with this and no

1465
01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:54.119
one was there, even Trump's communication team. I met with

1466
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:56.560
him and said, why are you not? I would take

1467
01:15:56.640 --> 01:16:01.720
that tape of Obama and in the press room and

1468
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:06.039
every question about Russia collusion, I'd roll that tape and say,

1469
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:08.000
when you get around to get into the bottom of

1470
01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:11.039
that collusion, then you come talk to me, right And

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01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:14.359
you know, of course they again the Republicans laughed it

1472
01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:17.640
off and you know, let it go buy And it's crazy.

1473
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:22.359
It's almost like, you know, the Republicans realized that I guess,

1474
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.439
you know, they've just accepted that they could not get

1475
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:28.079
the backing of the mainstream media to get the story out.

1476
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:33.079
And and every time, you know, the Republicans gained any rhyme. Mean,

1477
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:35.319
look what they did. Look what the Democrats did with

1478
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:39.520
the Tea Party. You know, I maintain Scott that what

1479
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:42.439
Lois Learner and Barack Obama did with the tea parties

1480
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:45.560
affected the you know, at least maybe eight to ten

1481
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:48.239
voting cycles because of what they did.

1482
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:50.920
Yeah, absolutely, so how is that?

1483
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:55.079
How is that? How is that not voter interference.

1484
01:16:55.039 --> 01:17:00.359
And election interference? And they immediately there there were several

1485
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:06.279
things that they did that was inexcusable, and Republicans just

1486
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:09.119
did not push back and did not demand that the

1487
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:12.039
media cover it. And that's what they should do in

1488
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:17.479
these cases when you're going one on one with the journalists,

1489
01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:23.000
make them explain why they did not cover Obama and

1490
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:28.680
Vladimir Putin's relationship, Demand that they give answers. You want

1491
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:32.880
to talk about weaponizing a government agency? What did Obama

1492
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:35.600
do with Lois Learner and the irs? And you go

1493
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:38.720
down the list and you make them answer these questions.

1494
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.039
And that's how you can turn the tables on them

1495
01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:45.720
if the media starts to lose credibility. But Republicans are

1496
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:49.279
so they're still calling them liberal. They're still calling the

1497
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:53.159
media liberal. I keep explaining to no, they're not liberal.

1498
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:56.000
That's a compliment. It's like calling you or me a patriot.

1499
01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:59.720
That's a compliment. Call them what they are. Their Democrat

1500
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:04.119
part the apparatchets. The Democrat Party isn't liberal. The Democrat

1501
01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:08.039
Party is left wing. Extremists and the most corrupt institution

1502
01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:12.239
in US history. Nobody will say that either, and they've

1503
01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.439
got to start talking about it or we're finished.

1504
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:19.600
Well, they've really have just you know, become socialists. You know,

1505
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.840
they say the Democrat Socialist Party of America, but they're

1506
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:23.640
just socialists.

1507
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:30.560
Yeah, yeah, it is, but they're not. You know, calling

1508
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:35.399
them socialists is almost going too easy on it, because

1509
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:39.840
they're not just socialists. They're corrupt socialists. And you know,

1510
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:42.439
for decades, we all we heard about was how Wall

1511
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:46.439
Street back the Republican Party. And then Wall Street changed

1512
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:50.600
during the Clinton years and the Wall Street started backing

1513
01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:55.560
the Democrat Party and even worse, the Democrats, they would

1514
01:18:56.079 --> 01:19:01.119
write legislation that would punish corporations that weren't paying them

1515
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:08.840
and would go provide carb outs for corporations who did.

1516
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:11.159
It's paid a play. So why are you upset about

1517
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:13.159
Joe Biden? Right?

1518
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:18.079
Yeah, it's this, yeah, and that he just was sloppy

1519
01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:20.680
about it and did it. You know, there's always one

1520
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:25.159
moron who does it so brazenly that everybody can see it,

1521
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:28.600
and then it puts everybody, It opens shines the light

1522
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.479
on the whole operation. And that was Biden. He you know,

1523
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:33.600
he was the dummy who went out and just did

1524
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:37.560
it to the extent that everybody could see it, but

1525
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:39.680
that you know, that was the reason he didn't run

1526
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:43.880
in twenty sixteen. And everybody, when they pretend the media

1527
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:47.960
in this town pretend they didn't know this, everybody knew

1528
01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:52.039
the reason he did not run was Obama was promoting this,

1529
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:57.640
this idea that he had a scandal free administration and

1530
01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:00.039
if Biden had run, all of this stuff would have

1531
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.760
come out in twenty sixteen about him his dealings in

1532
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:07.199
Eastern Europe and other places. And Obama did not want

1533
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:10.279
that splattering on him, so he told him, no, you

1534
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:14.760
can't run, and let Hillary Clinton do it.

1535
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:20.920
How embarrassed is the mainstream media. Let's say, with Nick

1536
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.680
Shirley's reporting in Minneapolis.

1537
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:28.760
Well they're going after him. CNN did a piece on

1538
01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:33.560
the story, but went after Nick Shirley, and you know,

1539
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:37.560
made excuses, what bought into the guys committing the fraud,

1540
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:41.000
you know, not mentioning. You know, they said, oh, Nick

1541
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:44.079
Shirley showed up win hours when they weren't. Their daycare

1542
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:49.359
is on after school till in the evening. And I said,

1543
01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:50.319
can't CNN.

1544
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:51.079
Do math.

1545
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:53.800
You know, they were getting like one point five million

1546
01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:58.880
dollars per month for the seventy five students they're claiming.

1547
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:03.319
You know, that's like thirty eighteen thousand dollars per student

1548
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:07.039
per month. That's more than the public school system spends

1549
01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:10.199
per student per year. And nobody could sit there. Well,

1550
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.159
wait a minute, even if they did have children there,

1551
01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:18.800
it was a complete scam. But yeah, they go after

1552
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:23.800
Nick Shirley, and they know nobody goes after the journalists

1553
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:25.520
that went after him.

1554
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:29.479
Well, Scott, it's interesting where we are right now in

1555
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:32.279
twenty twenty six. I've been saying on the show that

1556
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:36.079
truth is rising and truth is coming out, and it's embarrassing,

1557
01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:37.960
it has to be. Well, of course, a lot of

1558
01:21:37.960 --> 01:21:39.720
these people, they are so used to lying. They just

1559
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:41.359
they have no shame, right.

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01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:47.119
No none whatsoever, And they've become delusional. They don't they

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01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:51.439
become to the point where, especially my colleagues in the

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01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:54.760
press Corpts, they've gotten to the point where they so

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much believe that Republicans are evil that they have to

1564
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:06.199
do whatever it takes to expose them, and they've become

1565
01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:10.399
blind even to the fact that they're being used as tools.

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01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:13.359
Many of them aren't smart enough to figure this out.

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01:22:13.399 --> 01:22:17.079
And you know, fifty sixty years ago, forty years ago,

1568
01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:20.520
even some of them would have figured it out and

1569
01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:26.199
would have changed Bernie Goldberg was won. But these days,

1570
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.920
nobody's smart enough to figure it out. They're just nit wits,

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01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:32.239
and they go out there, cash their big paychecks and

1572
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.920
get paid well to promote the Democrat Party narrative.

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01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:38.920
Well, that's what happens when you're so ideologically fixed, as

1574
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:42.920
Jordan Peterson says, you render yourself stupid. And that's what

1575
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:47.319
we're dealing with right now. Scott Wheeler, the accomplished investigative reporter,

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also a chief correspondent for The American Investigator TV magazine. Scott,

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thank you is always appreciated. Look forward to staying connected,

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to take care.

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talk more about that with Joe Carr in just a moment. Hey, Joe,

1650
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:48.800
welcome back. Good to have you with us. Yeah, good

1651
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:49.359
to be here.

1652
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:49.640
Bill.

1653
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:52.880
Well, we can blame it all on you. This new

1654
01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:57.279
tradition that's catching on, Dryuary or dry January, as some

1655
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.920
is saying, it's when people take a break from drinking

1656
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.560
during the month of January after the holidays. They say,

1657
01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:04.640
look at maybe I need to just take a break.

1658
01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:07.199
You know, I may have hit it a little heavier

1659
01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:09.319
than I'd like to, but you know, this kind of

1660
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:11.600
makes sense. So, you know, shame on you, Joe Carr,

1661
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:13.600
for listening to the people and giving them something they

1662
01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:14.399
want to do. Right.

1663
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:18.079
Yeah, it's always my fault, Bill, It always has been,

1664
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:23.239
you know, Bill twenty twenty six. Even though it's dried January,

1665
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:26.720
you have to we realize something. And it's America's two

1666
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.600
hundred and fiftieth anniversary, right, And that's a big thing

1667
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:34.119
for us because, as you know, Josh Sellers has really

1668
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:38.520
become America's most beloved wine brand. And the backstory is,

1669
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:41.640
you know, I started this company with my wife. We

1670
01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:45.239
started in our garage. Our desk was a picnic table,

1671
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:49.279
and I'm out in California making wine inside somebody else's

1672
01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:53.680
winery for over five years. So that story and that

1673
01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:58.760
journey embodies the American dream. So to celebrate America's two

1674
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:03.000
hundred and fiftieth anniversary, Tree is something really really special.

1675
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:05.560
Well, how did you come up with the idea of

1676
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:07.640
a non alcoholic sparkling wine?

1677
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:11.000
Well, we knew, you know, we kind of recognize this

1678
01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:15.359
trend a while ago. And you know, my mom was

1679
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:22.000
diabetic and so she couldn't drink alcohol. And we we

1680
01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:25.319
have a winery in Italy, in uh in the Veneto

1681
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:29.920
region where we make Josh Sellers prosecco, this generation wine

1682
01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:33.479
making family, Daniel Posey. So we all got together and

1683
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:37.000
we said, could we create something? And we created a

1684
01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:43.800
non alcoholic sparkling which looks like and tastes like prosecco.

1685
01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:47.560
It's absolutely delicious. Well, and I noticed and the people

1686
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:50.279
who probably notices that, you know, you hear sparkling and

1687
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:52.279
you think, okay, but we're not hearing wine. We're not

1688
01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:57.079
hearing h you know, a subject term, but it's sparkling

1689
01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:00.000
is the subject right Yeah?

1690
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:03.840
For us, Right now, we're just making an NA sparkling.

1691
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:08.640
There are people that are making NA wines. Table wines.

1692
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:13.239
We're not we're not in that space yet. But we'll

1693
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:15.319
look at it, you know, we'll we'll look at it.

1694
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:21.960
But you know, josh n a sparkling. I mean it's

1695
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.319
great as a mocktail, you know, I make a ballini,

1696
01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:28.159
I make a mimosa with a you know, fresh fruit.

1697
01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:32.680
And that's another trend that especially young people are trying

1698
01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.199
this too, which is important, you know, if they try

1699
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:39.079
an na wine and when maybe they decide to have alcohol.

1700
01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:42.960
This is kind of our our bridge, right, So we're

1701
01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:43.840
excited about it.

1702
01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:47.720
Well, and of course when you're celebrating, you know, you

1703
01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:51.159
want to, I guess have a sense that you are,

1704
01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:55.359
you know, enjoying you know, a drink, and and who

1705
01:29:55.399 --> 01:29:59.199
knows and who cares whether or not it's alcoholic, right exactly?

1706
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:04.000
You know, speaking of entertaining, uh, I do a lot.

1707
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:06.720
I mean when you become a wine producer, guess what,

1708
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.760
you're really popular and people want to come over to

1709
01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:13.800
the house. So the trend now too is to uh,

1710
01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:17.880
you know, make things a little easier and fun. You know,

1711
01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:19.960
we don't have to do a ten course dinner.

1712
01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:21.319
We don't. We don't have to do that anymore.

1713
01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:24.840
I put out a buffet or I do chacurity boards,

1714
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:30.039
let people graze walk around. We experiment by by putting

1715
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:31.880
out all types of wine. So because you know, I

1716
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.840
make Caberny Saviallan, I make Josh pino and nowar which

1717
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:38.319
is great for parties. We got a new white wine

1718
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:41.680
out called Sea Swept. It's a blend of savant blanc

1719
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:45.439
and Pino Gregia, which is on fire right now throughout

1720
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:46.000
the country.

1721
01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:47.119
And then of.

1722
01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:50.520
Course we have our sparkling wines from Italy and this

1723
01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:54.680
spring we're going to be introducing a new sparkling wine

1724
01:30:54.960 --> 01:31:00.279
called Sea Swept, made up in uh in California, and that, uh,

1725
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:04.960
that's gonna be my daytime wine. Just saying I'm just

1726
01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:07.439
putting that out there. I will try it during the

1727
01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:10.319
day and I'm gonna make a lot of sprits is

1728
01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:11.279
with it with fresh fruit.

1729
01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:14.520
Oh gosha, that sounds great, you know. And the deal

1730
01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:16.560
is is that, as you say, I mean, and I'm

1731
01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:20.159
like you, Josh, uh, I'd much rather have in many

1732
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:25.960
cases a nice charcuterie board and different wines available there,

1733
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:28.520
just so you can discover the different pairings.

1734
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.920
Right, yeah, absolutely, And you know, cheese doesn't necessarily have

1735
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:35.880
to be with red wine. For example, goat cheeses mantas shit,

1736
01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:39.680
they ca monachet. They work great with Savion blanc with

1737
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:42.039
the acidity. You know, have you got your darker cheeses

1738
01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:45.279
or parmesans or heavier cheeses. Yeah, that's where mer Low

1739
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:48.800
comes in. Or and then you know, we also make rose.

1740
01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:53.119
We make it an amazing Josh Sellers rose from the

1741
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:56.720
Barbara grape, Italian grape. And that's you know, that's a

1742
01:31:56.760 --> 01:32:00.600
party wine. That's that's just a big party wine.

1743
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:04.520
Well, it's always fun talking with Joe Carr. He's the

1744
01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:07.319
founder of Josh Sellers and he's breaking it all down

1745
01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:10.439
for us and talking about you know, this this trend

1746
01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:16.159
that's catching on dry January. You know what's behind all this?

1747
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:18.359
I mean, it just seems like there's a lot of

1748
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:21.279
a lot of motivation and a lot of rallying around

1749
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:23.039
this idea of dry January. Joe.

1750
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.199
Yeah, you know, like I said, it's been a couple

1751
01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:30.279
of years and I think for many that do it,

1752
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.079
they just want to tap the brakes. You know, they're

1753
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:35.760
coming off Christmas in New Year's Eve, So what do

1754
01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:39.800
you think? Yeah, you know, a little over imbibing perhaps,

1755
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:43.119
and this is kind of a way to shift down,

1756
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:47.000
but I don't think it's going to go away, and

1757
01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:48.680
we're prepared for it.

1758
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:52.119
Yeah yeah, but shifting down with I think in a

1759
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:54.920
sense with very little compromise Joe with you know, with

1760
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:56.119
the sparkling, right.

1761
01:32:56.399 --> 01:33:01.399
Oh, absolutely, I mean the bottom line, whatever we make

1762
01:33:02.760 --> 01:33:06.239
has to taste good. It has to there's no.

1763
01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:08.600
Cutting corners.

1764
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:13.119
We've never done that. So the products that we've produced,

1765
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:16.760
where they have alcohol or not, we want to be

1766
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.199
a benchmark in the category.

1767
01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:21.960
Well, the fact is is that if it didn't taste

1768
01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:23.640
good and the people were responding to it, you and

1769
01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:25.560
I wouldn't be talking about it today, right.

1770
01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:27.520
No, I don't think so.

1771
01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:30.399
Just kind of common sense marketing here is what this

1772
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:36.239
is all about. How exactly is a non alcoholic sparkling made.

1773
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.239
Well, you make it last if you're making a regular

1774
01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:45.880
alcoholic wine. But what you do is you we call

1775
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:52.720
it arresting fermentation because fermentation needs heat. But if you

1776
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:58.520
keep the prosecco grapes chilled, then the fermentation process doesn't happen.

1777
01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:01.960
So that's how we do it. It's called arrested fermentation.

1778
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:07.159
Arrested for see, that's the words for the day, arrested fermentation.

1779
01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:09.920
Now see how smart you get here by listening to

1780
01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:12.920
Joe cars He breaks all this stuff down. And now

1781
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:15.079
I know what's going to happen, Joe. They're going to

1782
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:18.960
be running, you know, running to you know, check this

1783
01:34:19.079 --> 01:34:21.439
out and you know, check out a couple of bottles

1784
01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:24.880
and you know, work up a nice charcuterie board and

1785
01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:28.199
start experimenting with the pairings. Right, yeah, that sounds like

1786
01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:31.039
a great idea. I'm with you on that. I love

1787
01:34:31.079 --> 01:34:35.119
that idea. So again, the versatility as you mentioned of

1788
01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:38.960
pairings with the sparkling, it's you know, people are going

1789
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:40.840
to find this out for themselves. Of course you already

1790
01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:43.920
have people that have discovered this, but for those of

1791
01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:47.960
us that have not, get ready and your taste buds

1792
01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:51.239
are going to be very receptive for this new idea

1793
01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:54.600
and concept of dry January, Right, I think so?

1794
01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:56.239
I think so?

1795
01:34:56.239 --> 01:34:59.960
So anything else you you're holding back on us? Joe?

1796
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:00.079
Oh?

1797
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.119
I mean, is there something else that we should we

1798
01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:04.720
should know about? We got about a minute left here, Well.

1799
01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:08.760
Well listen, want to listen America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,

1800
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:16.199
America's most beloved wine brand, American Dream quality wines, handcrafted.

1801
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Go on Josh Sellers dot com, check out our Instagram feed.

1802
01:35:22.279 --> 01:35:24.880
We're going to have installations at concerts where you've got

1803
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to be able to go and taste some of our wines.

1804
01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:29.520
We don't have the schedule out yet. And then you

1805
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:32.880
can also go on YouTube. I've had ten million views

1806
01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:37.399
on YouTube that talk about the journey and my dad

1807
01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:42.479
and our values and and we think that's really important.

1808
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:44.680
Well, we're going to leverage this interview as well, and

1809
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:47.000
it'll be on YouTube and X and Rumble and a

1810
01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:49.680
couple of other platforms in addition, you know to what

1811
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:52.760
we do here nationally and internationally on Bill Martinez Live.

1812
01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:56.399
We just so you know, love what you know what

1813
01:35:56.479 --> 01:35:58.840
Josh s Shellers has done, Joe, what you've done with

1814
01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:01.960
the organization, and of course we've got a lot of

1815
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:05.520
fun things to talk about with Dry January, right, you

1816
01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:08.399
got it? Sounds great? As we wrap things up, where

1817
01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:09.840
can people go for more information?

1818
01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:13.159
Well, like I just said, go to Josh Sellers dot com,

1819
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:18.319
check out the Instagram feed, go on YouTube, go to

1820
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:21.399
your local stores because you know a lot of stores

1821
01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:25.119
have tastings on Saturdays and Sundays, and they're going to

1822
01:36:25.199 --> 01:36:25.880
be trying our wines.

1823
01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:28.359
They're gonna be pouring our wines. Well, there it is,

1824
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:30.920
ladies and gentlemen. Check it out for yourself. Joe Carr

1825
01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:33.279
from Josh Sellers, Joe, thank you so much.

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Take care happing you here my friend YouTube Bill thanks

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Hey, good to have you win us Bill Martinez here

1904
01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:46.000
along with Craig Rucker, always going to be talking to Craig,

1905
01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:48.520
especially when there's a new year around, because new year

1906
01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:50.239
gives us new hope, right Craig.

1907
01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:52.600
Absolutely, Hey, Happy new Year.

1908
01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.119
Happy new Year. Well. Craig is the founder and president

1909
01:40:55.159 --> 01:40:58.680
of c FACT and Craig lots of stuff to talk about,

1910
01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:04.079
particularly this story behind Trump's order halting Virginia offshore wind.

1911
01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:09.800
What's going on, Well, I say, Santa Trump actually delivered

1912
01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:12.439
a lump of coal to Dominion Energy and five other

1913
01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:16.279
offshore wind companies right at the route two days before Christmas.

1914
01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:20.159
As a matter of fact, he issued a well it

1915
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:23.800
was through. It was through, the Department of Interior issued

1916
01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:27.000
a stop work order as they reviewed the permits that

1917
01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:31.800
were agreed to under the Biden administration, and he stopped

1918
01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:35.600
those permits based on national security concerns. It appears that

1919
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:40.119
Biden administration basically ignored warnings and studies that came from

1920
01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:43.760
the US Navy and others that building these offshore wind

1921
01:41:43.800 --> 01:41:48.760
sites near some of our nation's largest naval ports could

1922
01:41:48.840 --> 01:41:54.760
disrupt communications, training exercises. Indeed, even some of these actually

1923
01:41:54.800 --> 01:42:00.239
could hide Chinese subs. So this is of course, was

1924
01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:02.680
no big deal to the Biden administration because, you know,

1925
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:06.159
having Chinese subs off the US coast is small potatoes

1926
01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:09.319
compared to the horrific things that could come from you know,

1927
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:13.439
climate change that Albright predicts. So from their perspective, they

1928
01:42:13.479 --> 01:42:16.840
rushed through the permit from the Trump administration's perspective. They said,

1929
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:18.880
not so fast, we want to review these things.

1930
01:42:20.640 --> 01:42:24.840
That it defies common sense. I mean how I mean,

1931
01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:28.840
it's like every time they pull back another layer of

1932
01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:30.520
the skin of the Biden onion.

1933
01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:31.840
It's just.

1934
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:37.239
It's incomprehensible how they could come to that conclusion to

1935
01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:40.399
put our national security at risk like that, all in

1936
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:44.439
the name and for the sake of alleged climate change.

1937
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:51.079
Yes, well, that's just the that's just the preposteritor, you know,

1938
01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:54.039
the preposter's way in which this is all being done.

1939
01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:57.039
A lot of people wonder why this mad rush forga

1940
01:42:57.159 --> 01:43:00.439
not just offshore wind but onshore wind, solar energy, wire

1941
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:02.560
prices going up in our rates, and that it's all

1942
01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:07.319
based on climate change alarmism. Of course, they've been saying

1943
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:10.680
for many decades that the world's coming to an end,

1944
01:43:11.479 --> 01:43:15.680
that we will we're seeing worse tornadoes, hurricanes, things of

1945
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:18.720
that sort. We like to at Sea Fact every month

1946
01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:22.520
produce a climate reality fact check, and we really encourage

1947
01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:25.680
your listeners to go there because every month, whether it's

1948
01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:28.520
from the New York Times, it could be from CBS

1949
01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:31.520
News or whatever, they're making claims about. You know, the

1950
01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:34.880
driest ever in California, or this hurricane that hit Florida

1951
01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:39.119
is unprecedented, and we you know, look at these things

1952
01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:43.279
and they're just patently false. I mean, well, but.

1953
01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:46.760
I say that any at any point, Craig, do they

1954
01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:49.279
try to be objective? I mean, I get it. I

1955
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:52.680
mean they're they're ideologues. And here it is, We've been

1956
01:43:53.039 --> 01:43:56.600
battling this windmill in the name of Don Quixote for

1957
01:43:56.800 --> 01:44:00.600
what three decades at least, and you know, in this

1958
01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:04.239
imaginary windmill keeps kicking their butt, but they they insist

1959
01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:04.960
it's still there.

1960
01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:07.800
Right, they do as a matter of fact, what they

1961
01:44:08.199 --> 01:44:11.000
you know, as I say, they they're deceptive on how

1962
01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:13.680
they put this in case in points, you know, I

1963
01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:15.880
remember this goes back to I think it was a

1964
01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:18.920
Hurricane Heleen when it hit Florida a few years ago,

1965
01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:21.359
and they say, this is the first time that a

1966
01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:26.479
hurricane has hit this portion of Florida ever, it's unprecedented. Well,

1967
01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:29.600
that's correct, technically, but if they went fifty miles to

1968
01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:32.359
the west or fifty miles to the east, bigger ones

1969
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:35.479
have hit. But they're technically correct that it never hit

1970
01:44:35.560 --> 01:44:38.239
this exact location in Florida.

1971
01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:39.199
With this this.

1972
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:42.279
You know, we don't have record of that. That's deceptive

1973
01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:44.520
because one gets the impression when they hear this that

1974
01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:47.399
nothing's ever struck this where. You know, it'd be like

1975
01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:49.800
you going into your living room and saying, I never

1976
01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:54.520
ever ate potato chips in this corner before. It's unprecedented. Well,

1977
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:56.720
you ate probably eight potato chips all over your room,

1978
01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:01.279
but not in this one corner. You know, it's you know,

1979
01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:04.520
so technically they're not lying, but they're deceptive, and that's

1980
01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:06.119
how they do a lot of this stuff. And the

1981
01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:08.560
thing that's so embarrassing about it, Craig, but they have

1982
01:45:08.600 --> 01:45:11.399
no shame, so they can't be embarrassed. I mean, normal

1983
01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:14.119
people with a sense of common sense and reason would

1984
01:45:14.119 --> 01:45:16.840
be embarrassed. But you know, you go into their living

1985
01:45:16.920 --> 01:45:17.520
rooms and.

1986
01:45:17.439 --> 01:45:21.720
There's there's evidence of potato chip droppings in every other

1987
01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:23.520
spot right exactly.

1988
01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:27.600
And that's exactly how they do these things. So you know,

1989
01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:30.079
when you call them liars, they'll say, well, has it

1990
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.520
ever hit here in Florida before? To their credit, are

1991
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:35.640
our side and the past we used to just not

1992
01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:38.159
challenge these things. I was very encouraged and this goes

1993
01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:42.199
back to the Helene incident that DeSantis actually read the

1994
01:45:42.279 --> 01:45:45.720
stuff that came from Sea Fax. Chris Marts he's our

1995
01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:50.199
young meteorologist we have on staff, and he sent the

1996
01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:53.520
stuff to DeSantis's office that when a reporter came up

1997
01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:56.720
to him and made that preposterous claim, DeSantis just rattled

1998
01:45:56.720 --> 01:46:00.359
off facts and it was dismissive, and it left the reporter,

1999
01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:04.199
you know, speechless, kind of because they hadn't They don't

2000
01:46:04.239 --> 01:46:06.920
even know what they're saying. I'm not entirely sure that

2001
01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:09.439
many in the liberal media even understand what's coming out

2002
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:10.079
of their mouth.

2003
01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:10.560
Half the time.

2004
01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:13.800
Well, this is why we continue to insist that we

2005
01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:16.680
want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing. But because

2006
01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:19.239
that's all been obliterated, just as you said, it's all

2007
01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:21.920
been nuanced in such a way to fit an agenda

2008
01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.239
and ideology that at the end of the day, is

2009
01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:29.479
it helping or hurting? And after all this investment, trillions

2010
01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:35.199
of dollars chasing down this imaginary windmill, you know what

2011
01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:37.319
do we have to show for it? A lot of

2012
01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:39.520
negative I don't see anything positive out of it, do

2013
01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:40.399
you No.

2014
01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:43.119
Well, one thing that's for sure hasn't happened, is it

2015
01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:47.359
has not changed the weather one iota or the climate

2016
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:51.880
one iota. We're not experiencing any real differences after the

2017
01:46:52.279 --> 01:46:55.079
billions were spending on climate change, you know, putting in

2018
01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:58.880
solar panels, wind panels, trying to force people new electric vehicles,

2019
01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:01.640
getting rid of or hair dry, not eating red meat,

2020
01:47:02.359 --> 01:47:04.319
you know, all these different things they're asking us to

2021
01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:08.520
do that does not impact the weather in any one way.

2022
01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:11.560
And we know this because we have long range record

2023
01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:14.319
data that we can go back and see. You know

2024
01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:17.920
that any modest warming that's occurred largely occurred as a

2025
01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:20.279
result of coming out of what they call the Little

2026
01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:23.239
Ice Age in the late eighteen hundreds. We're now returning

2027
01:47:23.239 --> 01:47:25.840
into levels that are not unprecedented. If you went back

2028
01:47:25.880 --> 01:47:30.199
a thousand years ago, during the Medieval Warm period, temperatures

2029
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:32.279
were hotter than they are today. And we know this

2030
01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:35.399
not by necessarily. I mean common sense can tell you.

2031
01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:39.800
The Vikings, for example, farmed in Greenland. Greenland's back in

2032
01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:43.359
the news now that Trump's talking about it, but there

2033
01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:45.880
was a time when the Vikings had a settlement there.

2034
01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:48.239
They abandoned it in the fourteen hundreds because of the

2035
01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:50.479
fact that got really cold. We know that there were

2036
01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:53.439
forests and parts of Alaska that were around in one

2037
01:47:53.479 --> 01:47:56.960
thousand and eighty that are now under glaciers. So you know,

2038
01:47:57.039 --> 01:47:59.560
the world went through a cools period. We're now returning

2039
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.319
to a that's probably like it was a thousand years ago,

2040
01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:07.239
and that was before we had SUV's coal plants or anything.

2041
01:48:07.359 --> 01:48:09.920
So this warming and cooling of the earth accursed naturally,

2042
01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:14.359
we're not seeing anything that requires alarm or concern, and

2043
01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:16.560
in fact, the world was a better place back then.

2044
01:48:16.680 --> 01:48:21.319
People actually had better health and longer term lifestyles than

2045
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:23.560
they did once the cold weather came in.

2046
01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:28.399
Right. But meanwhile, the left and these climate alarmists can't

2047
01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:32.800
help themselves, and they'll just boldface, boldfaced lighting like they

2048
01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:35.479
did in Los Angeles right with the fires. Oh it's

2049
01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:38.520
because of climate change, until they found out that it

2050
01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:42.720
was actually an arsonist exactly, and maybe and maybe he

2051
01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:46.319
had a T shirt on that said I'm for climate change.

2052
01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:50.199
And so somehow they can plead some sort of you know,

2053
01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:52.960
some sort of minor credibility or something, right.

2054
01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:56.279
Oh yeah, Gavin Newsome in particular, I mean, he's never

2055
01:48:56.439 --> 01:48:59.840
reclaimed any responsibility, even though they got people out in

2056
01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:02.960
California still protesting over the fact they can't remove brush

2057
01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:04.439
in front of their places.

2058
01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:08.279
Because unbelievable five hundred homes, I guess is all they've

2059
01:49:08.279 --> 01:49:11.880
gotten to in the Los Angeles area. And he's claiming

2060
01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:16.239
they're doing a much better job than they are in Hawaii. Well,

2061
01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:17.319
that's not saying much.

2062
01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:20.720
Hawaii is so pretty irresponsible and all that. I mean,

2063
01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:23.079
I remember when there's flooding in San Francisco. He said

2064
01:49:23.079 --> 01:49:25.920
this was a climate change unprecedented until we showed pictures

2065
01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:28.560
from the eighteen sixties that showed all of San Francisco

2066
01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:32.600
just about underwater. So this is not unprecedented. Even in Ashville,

2067
01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:36.680
North Carolina, as horrific as that was, we got old

2068
01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:39.560
photos of that being inundated with flooding.

2069
01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:40.640
So this is these are.

2070
01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:44.000
Things that they're unprecedented from our perspective because none of

2071
01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:46.079
us were around in eighteen sixty or in the early

2072
01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:50.439
nineteen hundreds. So in that regard, yes, And that's another

2073
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:53.680
way they deceive. Quite often. They'll often say it's the

2074
01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:57.439
warmest it's ever been in the modern record era. Well,

2075
01:49:57.479 --> 01:49:59.880
the modern record era goes to nineteen seventy nine.

2076
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:02.800
Yeah, so I mean that's a fair mine. Give me

2077
01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:03.079
a break.

2078
01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:03.439
Wind.

2079
01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:07.000
Give me, yeah, give me a break here. And you know,

2080
01:50:07.039 --> 01:50:13.439
speaking of Newsom and these other Blue states, it's interesting

2081
01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:16.680
because you see the correlation with these Blue states and

2082
01:50:16.760 --> 01:50:20.000
the cost of energy, electricity prices, and I got to

2083
01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:22.000
tell you, I was shocked. You know, for example, what

2084
01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:25.399
happened in New Jersey. You know why the voters cannot

2085
01:50:25.399 --> 01:50:29.840
make that correlation and they bring in somebody who is

2086
01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:33.399
a climate alarmist that is going to give them higher

2087
01:50:33.439 --> 01:50:36.399
electricity prices because they want to hold on to this

2088
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:37.399
green agenda.

2089
01:50:38.159 --> 01:50:40.439
I know, it's it's it's bizarre. And you've got to

2090
01:50:40.439 --> 01:50:42.720
even wonder in New York City while they elected what

2091
01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:46.359
they did. I mean, people are concerned about high rent,

2092
01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:50.079
high prices, energy prices. They're putting in the very culprits

2093
01:50:50.119 --> 01:50:53.479
that are driving up those costs. I mean, it should

2094
01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:55.880
be it should be common sense now. I mean, when

2095
01:50:55.920 --> 01:50:58.800
Trump came in back in twenty sixteen, America move from

2096
01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:04.319
an energy net importer to an exporter, gas prices fell.

2097
01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:07.920
Biden comes in benefits from that for a little while,

2098
01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:11.119
but then prices start skyrocketing as he chokes off where

2099
01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:14.319
our supply and everything comes. And then of course Trump

2100
01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:17.720
comes back in we're again enjoying fairly good gas prices

2101
01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:21.399
and all that. And you know, the people who are

2102
01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:24.720
actually responsible for that were just elected in. And I

2103
01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:29.520
just think that people are too easily deceived. And I promising,

2104
01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:32.800
you know, but I see this all the time people

2105
01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:35.439
when the left makes a claim, they'll say, hey, we're

2106
01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:39.560
going to give you free everything. Well, as Margaret Thatcher said,

2107
01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:41.840
it's it always works until you run out of other

2108
01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:43.800
people's money, and then all of a sudden the costs

2109
01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:45.640
go up and you lose a little bit of freedom.

2110
01:51:46.359 --> 01:51:49.960
Well, maybe with us capturing some of these Venezuelan TAC tankers,

2111
01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:53.319
we can replenish our strategic petroleum reserve. What do you

2112
01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:54.560
think I like.

2113
01:51:54.520 --> 01:51:57.199
The idea, although I know the Guardian magazine out of

2114
01:51:57.319 --> 01:52:01.399
England just yesterday said that having all that oil flood

2115
01:52:01.720 --> 01:52:05.199
the planet, you know, with driving down gas prices, will

2116
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:09.319
be an environmental climate catastrophe. So they're seeing only bad

2117
01:52:09.399 --> 01:52:13.399
things far left from all this oil that will now

2118
01:52:13.760 --> 01:52:17.399
benefit and keep our you know, economies humming along. That's,

2119
01:52:17.479 --> 01:52:20.239
you know, from the far left perspective, a horrific thing.

2120
01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:22.880
Right. Well, to stay on top of the truth, the

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whole truth, and nothing, but you want to check out

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c fact's website. The website, mister Craig, Yes.

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You just got to put your email in there and

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He's a ce fact founder and president, Craig Rucker. Thank you, Craig,

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take care, Thanks Bill.

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