Jan. 2, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 01 02 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 02 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 01 02 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Bill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture,

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our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, welcome. Six minutes after the top of

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the our Bill Martinez here with Trevor Lauden. He celebrated

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New Zealand, author, researcher and also a political activist and

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national speaker as well. He is highly in demand. Everybody

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wants Trevor. He's been sounding the alarm going back to

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I guess your first book, Trevor, Barack Obama and the

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Enemies within right.

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Yeah, bank Bank before he was elected.

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Yep, exactly. So the only I think, the only journalist

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and researcher that did any inquisitive vetting of the would

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be president, and everything that you said was it turned

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out to be fact, and even more so because the

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cat is out of the bag because here we are

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seeing him louting the praises of one Mamdani, the New

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York mayor.

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Right, exactly, one communist praising another effectively.

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Yeah, surprise, surprise, right, yep. Yeah, And so the most

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recent books security risk. Senators, you blew our audience to mind.

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Last time we talked, when you were talking about those

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senators that you know presented a clear and present danger

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to America. Of course, these senators that you talked about

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in Part one included the senators from Arizona to Massachusetts,

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and then part two includes the senators from Michigan to Wisconsin.

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And the thing that comes up all the time, Trevor

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is saying, how can this happen? You know, we are

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a democratic republic and we are being taken over from within.

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Yeah, well this is the thing. You know. For a

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long time, America is pretty much ignored internal security. The FBI,

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which was very strong under j. Gehobah and really got

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on the communist case, was very very effective. But in

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the nineteen seventies they were gutted after the Church hearings,

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and Church was a far left senator from Idaho who

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basically destroyed the US intelligence community. And from that time forward,

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the FBI has ignored the communists. The communists have taken

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over the maybe union movement. Every major union in America

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now is under Marxist control. And if you control the

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unions in America, you control the Democratic Party and who

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gets selected. So since that time, since the late seventies,

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early eighties, early nineties, the Marxists have been flooding the

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US Congress and the US Senate without and out communists,

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out and out socialist Marxist communists, to the point that

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the majority of Democratic Senators would fit in that category.

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Now, So who's actually controlling the Democratic Party? Is it

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the socialist the Marxist or is it the deep state?

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Well, the deep state is Marxists. This is what people

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don't get, you know. Diana West made it, wrote a

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great book, The Red Thread, which she traced the Soviet

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roots of the deep state.

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Today.

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The deep state is a is a combination of Russian

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and Chinese influence. So you've got the deep state, which

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controls a lot of our you know, Justice Department and

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FBI and probably the ciats large degree. And then you

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have the communists on the ground who make sure who

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determine who gets elected and what policies are implemented in

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Congress if you like. If you want to know what

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the Democrats are going to do tomorrow, read the Communist

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Party newspaper today, because they will be talking about green

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new deals. That'll be talking about open borders, nuclear deals

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with Iran, fracking bands, promoting transgenderism, all of those things

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that are coming out of the Democrats were formulated by

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the Communists.

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First.

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They want to bring America first to its knees, right,

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Trevor One.

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You know America. These people are working for China, they're

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working for Iran, they're working for Cuba Venezuela, and their

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goal is to destroy the American Republic so the Chinese

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and their Russian friends can dominate the plant. And they're

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working with the Muslims as well. So the only you know,

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roadblock to a one world socialist government is a free, independent,

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constitutional America. So America is enemy number one, both externally

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and internally of the hard left.

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So do you anticipate that what they have been doing,

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because it's been a gradual progressive move by laptists, by

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these progressives, But it seems that now they're emboldened, and

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I would anticipate something even more aggressive in the coming years.

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Is that what you're expecting?

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Look, absolutely see Trump did us a favor in waste a.

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He's held them back a lot in a lot of ways,

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especially clamping down on a legal immigration because that was

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their real you know, they just wanted to flood the

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country of the legals, get them all voting Democrat and

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then we're over and so. But he forced them all

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out into the open. You know, Mandami is a lot

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more open than he would have been three or four

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years ago. Right, same with many of these other radical Democrats. Look,

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if for Democrats get back in in twenty twenty six,

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we will start to see America tenants of Venezuela. They

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will come after their enemies. We already have seen how

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the Biden administration was monitoring four hundred Republicans and various institutions, etc.

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They staged at January the sixth coups to give them

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an excuse to crack down on conservatives. So look, we

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are the next democratic administration will be a communist administration,

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and they will come after their enemies, the Conservatives, businesses

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who support Conservatives, et cetera. And people will go to jail.

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People will be put in prison for their political beliefs.

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You see, there's no doubt in my mind, and I

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think in most people's minds, that's exactly what they'll do.

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And what's surprising to me, even in this government shutdown,

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Republicans have an opportunity to really you know, release the

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nuclear option, go and start taking start taking ground count

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the bodies go make it happen, because when they're in power,

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they're going to do exactly that, and the Republicans have

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missed the opportunity right.

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Look one hundred percent. Trump's what the nuclear option means

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is currently in the Senate, you've got to have sixty

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votes to pass something. The nuclear option makes at a

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simple majority, meaning the Republicans could actually pass their agenda

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and shut down the left, shut down their institutions, defund them,

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do what has to be done. But you've got people

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like John Thuhn, who's an old fashioned no no, let's

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not rock the boat Republican. The head of the Senate

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is just about as bad as Mitch McConnell. Say no, no,

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we can't do that. The Democrats are absolutely going to

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go nuclear if they get back into power. They're going

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to stack the Supreme Court, pack it with more liberal

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judges so we can't get majorities anymore. And they're going

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to make Puerto Rico and DC into states, meaning four

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more left wing senators Marxist senators, meaning we can never

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get a majority in the Senate. They are going full

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on communists, and people like fun are just living in

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La la land. Just complete lala land.

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So you mean to tell me that when the Crouch

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take over, if they do, and when they do, when

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they go nuclear, no one is going to say, hey,

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but remember I didn't do that to you him.

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Yeah, they're gonna, well, well, they're gonna think you were

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an idiot. You could have destroyed our agenda, and because

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you had no idea what we're about, you led us

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away with it. Well, we're going to show you how

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dumb you are, and we're going to you know, look,

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look that's exactly it. You know, they're not going to

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show us any mercy at all if we looked It's like,

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let's be nice to Hitler, maybe he won't start World

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War two. Let's be let's be nice to Saddam Hussein,

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maybe he won't kill kill as many people. No, anybody's

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been to high school and seeing high school bullies knows

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that being nice to bullies doesn't doesn't make any difference.

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You gotta put it in their face. You got to

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punch them in the nose. You've got to look, the

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Democratic Party could be destroyed legally, ethically, morally by just

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allowing the Republican and the market conservatives to do the

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things that need to be done that exactly we're voted for,

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and foon to hold that up. This nuclear option because

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of some misguided gentlemanliness or whatever's reason is just unconscionable.

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Exactly got to go to quick break. More from Trevor

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on the other side, stay.

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Bill Martinez here with Trevor Lauden, the New Zealand researcher,

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a nationally renowned speaker and author his most recent book,

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Security Risk Senators, Part one and two. Everything that Trevor

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has been reporting on and announcing on the show, it's

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all wide open now. As he said, Mom, Donnie and

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all the other communists now are coming out from underneath

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the beds and closets, out of the closets. I mean,

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you see them for what they are. And as you say, Trevor,

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the Democratic Party has already demonstrated what they're willing to do.

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All you've got to do is go back to January

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sixth and see what they did to all these patriots.

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Right Well, if you can look at January sixth, if

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you can look at the toleration of Black Lives Matter,

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they're allowing twenty million illegals to cross the border and

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their unlawful persecution of Trump and the supporters trying to

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basically and inventing the Russia collusion hopes. If that capable

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of that which has resulted in many many deaths, you know,

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you know, legals thousands of people died because of this.

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If they can do that, what limits are there they are?

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I'm saying it straight up. The Democratic Party is now

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a Marxist communist party. And if they get power one

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more time, we will see Venezuela come to America.

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No, yeah, you'll never You'll never see another Republican president.

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And there's no doubt about it, you know. And you

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talk about the enemies within. And I've been watching this

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for quite a while from one of my old Bible teachers,

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Chuck Missler, who.

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Oh, Chuck Missla Wow Zeland lived in New Zealand part of.

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The Yeah, well he left. He was in Cordelaine and

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left Cordelaine moved to New Zealand. That's where you know,

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it's where he passed away there. But he warned us,

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he said, look at the Muslims are here. And what

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they do is they start when they first have you know,

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maybe one percent demographic influence, it's very little. They're congenial,

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they you know, their religion of peace and all that

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sort of thing. When they hit five and get the

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five to ten percent rates, they start becoming more and

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more militaristic. And here we are in America. You talk

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about the enemies within the Muslim communities are growing eight

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ten to one in their birth rate America is what

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do we one point two one point three somewhere, not.

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Even replacement, not even replacement liberal exactly.

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And so now in the twenty ten population, the Muslim

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population in the United States was two point five million people.

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Trevor projected in twenty thirty five years from now they

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will be at six point two million, representing a growth

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of one hundred and forty percent. So this has to

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play right into the hands of the Marxist because they're

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going to I mean, they're taking over. I mean you

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listen to Rashida Talib and you go, why is she

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still in Congress the way she misrepresents America?

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Yeah, look, why is Illini? Iimarn exactly. It's reliably hused

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in court of being an agent for Kuta. You know,

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this is a big ties to the Iranian embassy. Look Look,

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when I came to America, I had to swear a

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declaration that I've never been involved in any socialist or

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communist or fascist organization that sought to overthrow or undermine

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the US Constitution. And I happily and gladly signed that.

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I thought that was fair. Well, if you're a Sharia

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compliant Muslim, if you believe in Sharia law, you believe

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Sharia law should be the rule of the law of

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the world. That's Allah's law, and your duty is to

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have it implemented wherever you live. You're automatically at odds

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with the United States Constitution. You're automatically trying to undermine

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and subvert the Constitution. We need to broaden the immigration

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thing of any organization or movement which seeks to overthrow

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or undermine the US Constitution. I don't care what you

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believe spiritually, Islam as a political system, masquerading as a religion, as.

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A really exactly and as political you know, I want

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to stop in just a minute again, and how you

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say that again, because a lot of people do not

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understand it. They think it's a religion. It is not.

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It's a politic Islam as a political ideology. And system

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masquerading as a religion. Islam is primarily political. It's all

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about getting power, getting obedience, you know, It's not about faith.

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It's about submission to authority. That is why the Islamists

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works so closely with the Marxists and the Communists that

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the Muslim Brotherhood, which is the father of most of

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the Sunny terrorist groups and the father of Care and

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Muslim Student Association, was founded partially by the Egyptian Communist Party.

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It was a political system.

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I don't get upset about Hindus. I don't get upset

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about up Sikhs or Jains or Buddhists or whatever. You

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can believe what you want to believe. Islam is the

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only religion that is spread primarily by the sword, by

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immigration or political influence. It is a political system, a

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top down, tyrannical political system, very like communism. That's why

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I oppose, That's why I don't believe muslim should be

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allowed in the country right.

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Well, as a religion, how many how many millions of

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people are they responsible for killing?

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Trevor Well, just millions? You know.

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Religion, I mean religion.

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Well, Christianity has had a few black marks in its

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name too. But the point is you don't get it.

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You don't get a Muslim knocking on your door and say,

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come down to the mosque, we're having a thing. You

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get christian is doing that all the time. Christianity is

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spread primarily by proselytization, by people talking to you. Islam

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has been almost always spread by the sword or by

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mass immigration. It's not because they persuade people. It's because

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they force people to adopt their religion on pain of death.

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Well, Trevor, about three minutes left here, what's the prescription

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for America? I mean, some people might just say, and

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we've been saying for a long time in different books,

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about America's at that tipping point? Are we behind the

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tipping point? Is there something that can be done today

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to affect our future?

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Well, I lay a lot of that out of my

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book Security Risks, and it's it's part two. But look,

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the immediate task before us is make sure Trump wins

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the midterm elections. That should be our complete focus, because

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if he loses that, everything else goes. He'll be impeached,

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he'll be subpoena, he'll be whatever, and then the Democrats

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will take over In twenty twenty four, and we'll all

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be refugees in our own country. So look, every politically

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active person, every Christian should be doing every single thing

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they can to win the midterm elections, which is eminently

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doable if we turn out, and if we win the midterms,

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Trump gets two more years to get rid of a

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whole much, a whole bunch more illegals. I think the

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nuclear option will be adopted. I think it will happen,

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and we could see a very different and much more

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positive America in two years, two and a half years,

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tipe much better. I think we're at a tipping point.

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We could we're either going to go way down from

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here or we're going to go up. And it's up

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to what we do politically and religiously. Because God helps

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those who stand in faith and courage for truth. David

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and Goliath will tell you that we got to do

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We've got to do that. That's what we got. Our

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goal right now is to make sure that Trump wins

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the mid terms.

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Got to get out involved. You can't sit out like

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you did in New York and be active.

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You've got to be Look, Mandami could have easily been

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defeated had the Republicans taken seriously early on. It had

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had had the Republicans called out as communism early on,

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but they were too complacent.

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Well, my complaint has been that it seems that the

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Republican Party is quick to surrender land. They surrendered, you,

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I mean, even if they even if they just let

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courteously want to go out there, they left him without

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any kind of weapons.

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Well, well, that's why I said, We've got to make

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sure Trump wins the mid terms, not the Republican Party

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wins the midom. They will win. Trumb will win the

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mid terms because we will use the Republican Party ballot

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line to get elected as many Conservatives as possible and

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give Trump the majority. See needs. I do not have

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a lot of faith in the Republican hierarchy. I've got

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a lot of faith in the Republican grassroots. I lectured

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to them all over the country that are conservatives, patriots,

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the hardcore, and continually they are let down by their

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leadership like John Thune right now.

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Well, and this is why conservatives need to be on

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the phone and megaphone calls to their senators to open

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the government. Keep pressure on John Dune, help you help

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him find a backbone here, Trevor.

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Yeah, yeah. If Reagan said, if they won't, if you

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won't see the light, make him feel the heat.

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Well, there it is Trevor Louden. As always we appreciate

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on the inside. Go to his website. Tell him the

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Well, Trevor Ouden dot com. All my books of that,

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and I've also got one. It was written about Kamala

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by the Christian anti Communist crusade, which is all about

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the Chinese takeover the Democratic Party. Let's say she the

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You heard him rite communists in our Senate, ladies, tons

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It isn't just AOC and Rashida today he's at least

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fifty my hardcore Marxist in the House. I'm thirty in

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At least Trevor Lauden has been our guest. Thank you Trevor,

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with doctor

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Wilfrid Riley, the Kentucky State University professor. Hey, well, how

494
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are we doing doing well?

495
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Doing well? Good to be good to be back on

496
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the program.

497
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Hey, always good to be talking to you. Hey, let's

498
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talk about how the Republicans have kind of blocked themselves

499
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:39.079
in a corner with dealing with Obamacare, with this deadline

500
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:42.400
that you know, the Democrats have been able to manufacture,

501
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:47.839
and they're putting a lot of pressure on Republicans to

502
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come up with the problem, a solution the problem they created.

503
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:54.519
Yeah, I mean there's a lot here.

504
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So first of all, one of the issues the parties face,

505
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because if we're talking about this both as adult guys,

506
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.720
is that when someone does something that's not ideal but

507
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.759
that works, very often the other team doesn't really want

508
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.200
to get rid of it. We've seen this with Republican

509
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.359
military spending bills. We've seen this with Republican developments of

510
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.920
the highway system. I honestly think we're seeing this with Obamacare.

511
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:18.960
We've seen this with Social Security. Both parties have grown

512
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:23.319
social Security. So the first question is is there actually

513
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.279
a GOP alternative in the works to Obamacare right now,

514
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:28.720
because if not, we're going to have a lot of

515
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.960
negotiations and then we're just going to have a deal

516
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.960
somewhere along the way. I think that that's what's lurking

517
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:39.160
in the background. When something gets done by one of

518
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:44.039
the sides and it's reasonably popular with the American people,

519
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.319
you're often never going to get rid of it. And

520
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I'm not saying resign yourself to Obamacare if you're a

521
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.240
small business owner, but I really do think you need

522
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.279
to push Republican politicians to say what the alternative is

523
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:56.720
if you want there to be an alternative.

524
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:58.759
So that's the backstory here.

525
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.880
Yeah, I mean the recent budget fight, the shutdown was

526
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:06.839
initiated basically by the Dems. Usually what happens in these

527
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.160
fights is that you're going to get something like cars

528
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.640
continuing Appropriations resolution minderstanding is that's what they did this time,

529
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:13.960
and that's going to push.

530
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.519
The government forward for two or three or four.

531
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:20.039
Months, and then at the end of that time, you're

532
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.319
going to have to act like big boys again, and

533
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.920
you know, figure out what the underlying problem was. The

534
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.880
government's been really bad at figuring out what the underlying

535
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.880
problem is during the entire time. I've been a political

536
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.759
science prof so I actually teach a class on this

537
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.279
called legislative process and the kind of last thing. But

538
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.359
like in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, the entire government was

539
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:43.319
under some kind of budget resolution. Their budget was set

540
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.599
based on the twenty ten budget. They've used cars eight

541
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:50.680
times total, So you at some point there are really

542
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.279
core disagreements between the left and right, between black and

543
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.640
white representatives, between the north and the south, about what

544
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.599
the government even should be doing, what the welfare budget

545
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:01.599
of the US they should be And the question is

546
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.640
is that resolvable And I'm not I'm starting to have

547
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:04.680
some questions about that.

548
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:07.759
Yeah, because well, the deal is is you have such

549
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.480
divergent interest and their self interest they're not They're not

550
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.799
in the interest of the country. And that's that's the

551
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.920
challenge that you have when you have which George Washington

552
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.160
warned about, when you have sides, When when you have

553
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.960
you know, teams playing against one another and instead of

554
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.400
really being able to look at this in a unifying sense,

555
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:35.440
because somebody doesn't want to not get credit for coming

556
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.160
up with a solution, right, it's it's it's all about

557
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:45.279
it's all about political you know, political posturing as opposed

558
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.599
to you know, coming up with the right, right solution here,

559
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.279
because meanwhile, what you've done is you've hired hijacked healthcare

560
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.480
going back to the Obama years, and what do you

561
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.920
got to show for it? Bupcus even worse than bupkus

562
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.680
buckus might be better than what we got right now.

563
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.279
Yeah, there are a lot of problems with Obamacare, I

564
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.559
mean national healthcare. One of the problems with national health

565
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.000
care is that it's a push pull issue where you're

566
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.680
never going to satisfy most people.

567
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.039
I mean, I talked to a British friend once and

568
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.799
his comment was socialism is tempting because it genuinely is.

569
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.480
Better for a lot of poor people, especially if they're lazy,

570
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.039
which I thought was a really blunt description. And the

571
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.559
flip side of that is that capitalism is better for

572
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:33.240
almost everyone who's middle class or wealthy. So, I mean,

573
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.200
when you look at healthcare, if you're low income, if

574
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:37.920
you're a college student or something like that, or recent

575
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.799
immigrant to the country. Under the traditional US model, unless

576
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.440
you were badly injured enough to go to an emergency room,

577
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.759
you basically just didn't have healthcare.

578
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.000
You didn't go to the doctor on that often.

579
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:49.720
And what the Britt pointed out is if you go

580
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:54.039
to England, everyone has fairly bad teeth. Not like minor beautiful,

581
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.480
but like everyone's got all their teeth, but they're like crinkly,

582
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.359
they've got may one over here jokes about the breads,

583
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.559
but everyone has their teeth, was his point. Everyone gets

584
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.680
about the US working class standard of health care.

585
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:07.960
In the USA.

586
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.880
You have people that have perfect veneers and you also

587
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.799
have some people that don't have all their teeth. And

588
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.559
that was the traditional model, like you'd go to the

589
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.960
dentist when you had money for the dentists. Obamacare did

590
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.720
lift the floor for healthcare, but it lifted the floor

591
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.440
for health care at enormous cost because it was done

592
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.880
by the government. The government is so big and clunky

593
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.079
and and efficient. So for almost everyone else, including me,

594
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.119
I was in graduate school by this time, you saw

595
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.079
your premiums increase. If you ran a small business enough

596
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.240
and became almost unsustainable. So there were all these critiques

597
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:41.880
of Obamacare that became immediate and they were leveled very rapidly.

598
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.000
The thing is, I haven't seen the GOP come up

599
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.160
with an alternative, whether that's healthcare exchanges, whether that's something

600
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:49.799
like the faith based healthcare markets.

601
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:50.799
I haven't seen.

602
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:55.000
Home health savings. They've thrown out some ideas, but there

603
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.319
needs to be You're exactly right. See, this is the problem.

604
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.480
This is what's causing this to linger because as the

605
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:03.920
Republicans have not come out with a solid plan, like

606
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.279
as if they didn't all I mean, they've been fighting

607
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.519
this battle for what fifteen years now?

608
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:12.920
Yeah, So to me, the Republican alternative to all this stuff,

609
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.119
including Social Security by the way, would be private investment

610
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:18.639
where there's the same amount of money taken out of

611
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:20.440
your check and this applies to your poor as well.

612
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.280
Poor people pay what is it medicare, Medicaid fiico, right,

613
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.960
but that's fifteen or twenty percent and you get that money. Now,

614
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.079
there would be limits once you can spend it on,

615
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:32.320
as there are with child support.

616
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:33.960
So basically you take.

617
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.320
That and you you use some of it if you

618
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.280
need emergency aid for something else. But you put that

619
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.280
in robin hood or whatever, and you yourself grow your wealth.

620
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.519
And I think again, almost everyone who's working middle class

621
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.360
on up would say that's dramatically better for me than

622
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:50.800
the Social Security system.

623
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.480
But the problem, but the problem is is you get

624
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:55.719
people at the lower scale will and I heard some

625
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.880
politicians today and I just wanted to crash. I was

626
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.840
driving in the car almost an embankment. He goes, well,

627
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:06.119
you know, these people can't take care of themselves. Excuse me,

628
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.440
you know, like that's our job. I mean that, like

629
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.920
that's everybody else's job. Is that we got to take

630
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.320
care of the knuckleheads that don't want to take care

631
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.679
of themselves, so we continue to coddle them and cripple them.

632
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.320
Well, this is this is kind of the issue.

633
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.000
I mean, there's a famous tweet where a guy who's

634
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.760
like a project manager is ranting, we're all at the

635
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:29.599
mercy of the bottom twenty percent. Like my project's been

636
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.119
delayed for months because there's one homeless guy sleeping in

637
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:32.559
the building.

638
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:33.840
And it just goes on and on. Like you go

639
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:36.679
to school, your kids in class, all dumb kids.

640
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:39.000
One kid wants to start a fight that schools shut

641
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.280
down for four hours. We're all at the mercy of

642
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.119
the bottom twenty percent. I mean, your girls get pregnant

643
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.320
high school often with your girlfriend even interested in high school.

644
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:49.159
Like, it just goes on and on.

645
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.119
It's like a page long rant. But look up bottom

646
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.239
twenty percent for anyone in the audience. But I mean

647
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.199
I think that there's that's a that's a valid point.

648
00:35:58.440 --> 00:35:58.599
Uh.

649
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:00.800
And he's got like two tweets on just shorter. It's

650
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.400
like we're all up in mercy of the bottom twenty percent.

651
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.760
It's his rant condensed and it really is funny. But

652
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.760
at any rate, the question is how you morally view that.

653
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:12.519
I think we've often gotten deep into ethics on this show.

654
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.519
What the guy is saying, the GOP politician is saying,

655
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.039
and Republicans, if anything, tend to be more ethical than

656
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.159
the Burrows at some level I think we all know

657
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:22.760
is correct.

658
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:23.599
So getting to the.

659
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.199
Point, if you give me thirty percent of my income back,

660
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.400
which is you know it's probably the high five figures,

661
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.679
and you allow me to put that in e trade

662
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.239
or some gold or something like, clearly I'm gonna make better.

663
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:36.960
Returns on that than I am on social security.

664
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.760
Clearly, in twenty years, I'm gonna get more than sixty

665
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.559
three thousand dollars or whatever back on that. It's it's

666
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.679
gonna be substantially, substantially more. The problem, though, is if

667
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.920
you are a working poor guy and you are prone

668
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.599
to buy into scams like, they're gonna be whole crypto

669
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.280
markets targeting that center of the economy, like all those

670
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.400
crap coins you can buy in gas stations, the pills

671
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.960
behind the counter are going to have crypto coins like

672
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.800
it's funny. But at the same time, the bottom twenty

673
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.440
five percent of people are going to end up with

674
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.039
no savings at all. They're going to be growing vegetables

675
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.039
behind their houses, and the question is what do we

676
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.719
do about that? And I think historically the idea that

677
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.119
working poor families would be growing vegetables and would be

678
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.400
Your son is now old enough to go, he's in

679
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.079
high school, he's working a job that wasn't really a

680
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.639
problem for anybody else, like you might dad might be

681
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.639
a Walmart greeeder. Mom would probably be at home by

682
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:33.079
this time.

683
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:34.880
But today I think.

684
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.880
That we've grown used to the idea that that is uncomfortable.

685
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.519
So if the government privatized social security.

686
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:41.440
This is the point.

687
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.000
Gave the money to everybody, and twenty five percent of

688
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.920
the people wasted the money. A problem for men, even

689
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:48.800
in the upper middle class, would be gambling. Now that

690
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.840
you have draft kings and all that sort of stuff,

691
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.960
what is an investment? Can you invest in pro football?

692
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:55.639
You know?

693
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:57.639
Like if all these people that tapped the people, if

694
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:59.360
a quarter of the people throw them money away, which

695
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.840
is the usual pet, there's going to be a government

696
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.519
program designed to give them the money back. That's the

697
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.760
issue with the Republican privatization plan.

698
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.079
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About in Lives. My liberal teacher taught me will as

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you're saying, I think at some point, I mean, our

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constitution is designed for people who want to take responsibility.

781
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I mean, that's the ethos of this. If you don't

782
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want to take responsibility, and if there's a government who

783
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is willing to go ahead, I mean, and I guess

784
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leverage the assets of producing Americans in order to take

785
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care of people, because you know, we're all empathetic to

786
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a point. I mean, we're not going to sit there

787
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and want somebody to, you know, suffer. It breaks my

788
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.960
heart every time I go back to my home state

789
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:06.360
of California and you know, go driving back in the

790
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old areas where you know, I used to work in

791
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downtown LA at the radio stations there, and you see

792
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:16.760
seventy what have they got seventy thousand homeless people sleeping

793
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under the overpasses there. They're drug aduled, and I mean

794
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.599
it's really it is heartbreaking. But the problem is is that,

795
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.000
see we're looking at it, We're looking at a situation

796
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that's been ignored for decades, you know, and we didn't

797
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.119
come up with a solution, and we need to come

798
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up with a solution again, going back to what you know,

799
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.559
the early Pilgrims figured out socialism didn't work. They said, hey,

800
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let's try to know everybody will just all put it

801
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in there together. And then you had human instinct being

802
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:50.079
what it is, you hat people that were lazy and said, hey,

803
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I don't need to work and just feed me. And

804
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we got eight women here, so we're going to have

805
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the eight women do my clothes and everything else. Because

806
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they got away with it for two years until finally,

807
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you know, the rest of people said, hey, we're you know,

808
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somebody's going to get killed here, so we better just

809
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give everybody a farm, let them earn their way, and

810
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all of a sudden, you know, the community started thriving.

811
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.039
So you know, that was our experimentation into socialism back then.

812
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:16.320
But we forget that, you know, we don't want to

813
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:18.960
remember that part of history to say, look at we've

814
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.880
we've tried it. It didn't work. It's stupid. It debases

815
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:26.159
and dehumanizes the individual, and we've got to find a

816
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way to get that message across to these young kids.

817
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:29.920
That look at.

818
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.559
You know, our life is very short, really, you know,

819
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.639
the Bible says seventy eighty years. If you're lucky, you know,

820
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what do you want to do with that lifespan?

821
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:38.199
You know?

822
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.400
Yeah, I think that there again, I think there's a deep,

823
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.000
almost moral problem here. Like anyone who's ever done like

824
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.360
an ecstatic version of prayer for that matter, one of

825
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.320
the psychedelics common in college has felt the sense of

826
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.079
no ego, like if I were this perfect person all

827
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.960
the time, I could make a better society.

828
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.599
But the problem is there's also.

829
00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.599
A different you, which isn't bad either in the boxing

830
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.679
gram or hunting elk, which is very different and a

831
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.559
bit more predatory. You're not perfect and ego lists all

832
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:10.239
the time, and most people are, believe it or not,

833
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.119
less perfect and egoists perhaps than me or you. And

834
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.880
so when you set up society, you have basically you

835
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.920
can't imagine that your society is made up of angels.

836
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:21.760
You have to set it up as if it's made

837
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.840
up of people. And that's why communism doesn't work. It's

838
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.159
it's just pointless to say, well, if everyone were this

839
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.920
perfect being of pure light, this would be the best system.

840
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.719
Because people aren't, and that also has advantages, Like in

841
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.239
most religious traditions, the angels are jealous of the humans

842
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.760
we can have, let's say, marriages. You know, we can

843
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.000
eat food, Like there are significant advantages to being here.

844
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.199
Yeah, little do they know until the angels, if they

845
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.159
were allowed to get married, they'd go, oh my god,

846
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:48.119
what were we thinking?

847
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.840
I mean, they're like they're big physical questions, but I mean,

848
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.639
like it's just they're the commination of what a matter

849
00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:59.280
and energy I think is not a poor way to

850
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.360
exist as a being. We have to regulate some of

851
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:08.199
the animalistic aspects of that, but the overall framework is

852
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.320
a pretty positive one. Given the other two options, I mean,

853
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.719
and ghosts and demons, the theories about what the what

854
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.599
either extreme would be are interesting. We obviously see what

855
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:22.079
animals are, but at any rate communism yet it doesn't work.

856
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:26.599
And it gets back to what we're talking about here.

857
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:30.280
The question of civilized societies to some extent is how

858
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.280
much to give to the underperforming Basically, I mean like

859
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.719
when you're talking about La, there are seventy thousand bums

860
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:39.360
in La or whatever term we're supposed to use.

861
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:40.639
I mean, they're entire.

862
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.599
Era homeless people. Yeah, exactly.

863
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:48.719
Yeah, their entire areas of la that are tent camps,

864
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:50.639
and it is I've always liked it as a city.

865
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:54.079
It is disturbing to see.

866
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:58.079
They have no problem taking those Americans and putting them

867
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:02.000
in small houses and give them this, at very least

868
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.960
the basics that we give to people in our welfare tenements,

869
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.039
food and so on, a card that will allow you

870
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:11.159
to purchase warmth and meat. The issue tends to be

871
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.000
this is the same as the issue with the people

872
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.039
taking the Social Security money and spending it on drugs.

873
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.360
The issue tends to be that without the kind of

874
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.679
strict rules that we used to have in the past,

875
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:27.039
you can't just give non functional people liberty, Like you

876
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.920
can't take a homeless guy and also say here's ten

877
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.400
thousand dollars for a quarter of the year and an

878
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:35.559
EBT card, because it's very obvious what's going to happen. Right,

879
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.280
So traditionally what we used to do with homeless people

880
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.039
is here's a shelter with very strict rules that were

881
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.960
incredibly invasive, like you have to do this amount of

882
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.599
religious practice, no homosexuality, probably no sexuality, and wear clean

883
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.280
clothes in a shower is seven.

884
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:53.079
To fifteen in the morning.

885
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.840
And what happened was that fifty sixty percent of people

886
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.199
got out of those shelters and just became normal citizens.

887
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.519
Either were the breaking experiences you could otherwise have simply

888
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:04.519
weren't allowed. You just went out and got a job

889
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:06.599
as a brick layer or something, joined the union, and

890
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:11.760
became normal. Now we've essentially banned that process of conversion.

891
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.280
In fact, we use the term conversion therapy in this

892
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:18.000
setting and a bunch of others entirely negatively, like you

893
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:22.079
should never change someone from their current state. So it

894
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.840
becomes very difficult, and basically I don't think we can

895
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:27.559
continue this long term, Like I don't think you can

896
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.440
have the combination of almost total freedom, like hey, there's

897
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.760
a rave down the street with a welfare state, i e.

898
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.360
Other people have to give you some percentage of their.

899
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:39.800
Money the last thing. But Saudi Arabia actually it implemented

900
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:42.400
a new vices policy, and their policy is pretty much,

901
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:47.280
if you can afford the thing, and if you don't

902
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:50.400
get it in any trouble at all, you can do

903
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:53.599
whatever you want. Like alcohol is legal in the Kingdom.

904
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.000
Now the drug kraton is legal in the kingdom. There

905
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.679
are party houses in the Kingdom. But the two catches

906
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.840
are you have to make I think it's fifty thousand

907
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:02.360
dollars a year.

908
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:03.760
You don't want just.

909
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:07.159
Ordinary guys spending money that their wives don't have on

910
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.400
this stuff. And too like if you get caught the

911
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.239
first time, they're not going to beat your throwy in jail,

912
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.360
but you're getting this warning from the cake like this

913
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:14.360
can't happen again.

914
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.320
So those those are the two caveats.

915
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:18.679
Like, as long as that you can party given those

916
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:20.119
two things, I think that's quite healthy.

917
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:24.360
Yeah, well, you know bound boundaries clearly. I mean, we

918
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.280
try to live with boundaries, I mean regardless, you know,

919
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.159
self imposed or otherwise. But it's interesting, like you said,

920
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.920
you know, previously where they would bring homeless people into

921
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.159
a program, what they're finding out now is that many

922
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.000
of them they don't want the structure. So you know,

923
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:42.960
now you only got about five percent. I think there

924
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:44.639
was five percent of the people that were coming in

925
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.519
would actually stay there and put up with you know,

926
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:49.599
they'd much rather be out in the fields and do

927
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:53.119
whatever and do as they darn well please. And they've

928
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:56.199
been able to And what I'm i guess I'm concerned

929
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:59.239
with is that we're so far down the road. And

930
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.840
I hate to use this term, but it's almost like

931
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.960
some of these people are irredeemable will and if you

932
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.119
just cut your losses or I mean, and that's hard

933
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.639
to say that you're talking about a fellow human being

934
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:12.639
that you're going to just say, hey, look at you

935
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.360
know you just you want to be a drug addict.

936
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.079
You want to you know, we're gonna, I don't know,

937
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:18.800
courting you off somewhere. We're going to send you to

938
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:20.199
Australia or something.

939
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.239
I mean, I think a lot of societies would just

940
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:23.840
chill you.

941
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.159
I mean, it's hard to advocate that undercurrent conditions, you know,

942
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.599
But like my before getting to that point, because I mean,

943
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:33.639
I suppose as a medieval leader, I'd be fully capable

944
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:35.199
of just saying, you know, line up some crosses by

945
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.440
the road if we have this level of sexcribe.

946
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:37.280
And so on.

947
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.880
But before getting to that point, I would simply reinstate

948
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.480
the rules that make functionality possible. And actually, I think

949
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.559
that's the level we would get to before anything else.

950
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:46.840
I mean, when you see we're blowing.

951
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.639
So I hope so, but you got to get all

952
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.719
these coddlers out of the way, because look a look

953
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:56.159
at what you've done. You have raised a dependent class.

954
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.800
I mean we're talking generations now, will and again. And

955
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:02.960
for me, I think I'm a little like Charlie Kirk

956
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:06.559
in a sense that I think about their humanity as

957
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.559
an individual in the time here spent on earth. You know,

958
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:11.880
you want it to be the best version of yourself

959
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.199
and hopefully you have some kind of legacy in a

960
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:17.719
family that you've you know, you've you've passed the baton

961
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.119
onto to continue this great American experiment.

962
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.800
Yeah, I mean I think that, first of all, I

963
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:27.320
mean the second point is just accurate.

964
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.880
The I think that the people that would try.

965
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.840
To block this are less powerful than you would probably think.

966
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.440
In terms of people in the elite left, I mean

967
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:40.400
that that's like one or two percent of society.

968
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:41.880
The people think men can be women and so on.

969
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.480
And do you hate to describe it in just totally

970
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:47.400
ruthless terms, but in terms of people who are hulbos,

971
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:50.239
for example, they don't have a great deal of political power,

972
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.039
like they'll do whatever the people who are currently in

973
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:56.840
charge of society say at some level. I think before

974
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.000
we get into any kind of real abuses on the right,

975
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.440
we would simply say we're reinstating some of these old rules.

976
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.039
If you're homeless, we have a vacancy policy in the city,

977
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:08.760
so you're gonna go to this shelter. I mean, you

978
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.480
talk with the churches and women's organizations the zone and time,

979
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:13.639
you'd set up twenty of them that actually work on

980
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.440
like the warehouses we have now, and you're.

981
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:16.639
Gonna be there.

982
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.000
We're gonna throw you in the county jail where nobody

983
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.960
wants to be. And I think you'd suddenly see a

984
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.719
massive decrease in outdoor camping or whatever. And this has

985
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.079
been tried dozens of times. I mean, Eric Adams in

986
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.760
New York is actually pretty good. Mayor did this, and

987
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.639
the first thing that Mamdani is doing when he entered

988
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:40.239
office is removing that policy so you can again live outside.

989
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:42.760
So kind of showing a weird, a weird sense almost

990
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:47.920
of reverse priorities there, we're starting with the most marginalized

991
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.880
people would be the way he'd probably describe it. But anyway,

992
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.760
I mean, I think we can return toward normalcy. I

993
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.880
think the vast majority of people want to And an

994
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.760
illustration of that that's become very controvert. But only on

995
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.239
Twitter is the Trump administration blowing up the drug boats.

996
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:06.760
Where you have this weird illustration.

997
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.400
And I have no idea whether this is very technically

998
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:12.440
illegal under international law. I know that double tap strikes

999
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.920
on land clearly aren't. Like there's no rule that if

1000
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.519
you're attacking a Taliban base in northern Afghanistan, if the

1001
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.320
first drone flies over and wounds twelve guys, you then

1002
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:24.880
have to stop attacking.

1003
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:25.840
Because your enemies are wounded.

1004
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:28.360
But I don't know if there's some weird codhicol for

1005
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:31.039
pirates or something like that. But I also don't care,

1006
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:33.320
and I don't think anybody does. I mean, there are

1007
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:36.960
one hundred thousand fentanyl and cocaine overdoses last year, so

1008
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.719
it seems like a normal government policy. Like if the

1009
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:43.360
helicopter flies over once, or you're flying the black flag,

1010
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:43.920
you don't.

1011
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.639
Have a national flag on your boat.

1012
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.480
You got fifty oil drums on your boat, you know

1013
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:49.880
you're a danger boat, keeps moving, a missile hits, And

1014
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.360
I mean, I think that you see this shrieking from

1015
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.159
certain people like my god, the poor Narco traffickers, and

1016
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.320
I think the ordinary person is just looking at this like, well,

1017
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:00.360
of course the government's going to blow up internet national

1018
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:03.000
dope dealers if there were an x number of miles

1019
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:04.679
of our waters, And what are you even talking about?

1020
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.400
What does the government do of it? Take your tax

1021
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:07.199
money with that?

1022
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.679
I so you don't want those people and those politicians

1023
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:14.519
executing a war plan will because they don't even know

1024
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:17.239
who the enemy is. I mean, they're just so confused.

1025
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:20.199
It's crazy. We got to leave it there, But you

1026
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.000
know we're going to talk about that the next time

1027
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.840
we get together. We need to get into that a

1028
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.159
little bit more. He's a professor of political science at

1029
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.639
Kentucky State University, author of Taboo. Ten Facts you can't

1030
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:32.599
talk about but we do here and Live's my liberal

1031
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:35.440
teacher taught me, Doctor Wilfrid Riley. Thank you will take care.

1032
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:37.920
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1049
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1051
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Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez live.

1052
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:51.599
Hey right now six minutes after the top of the

1053
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:55.840
are Bill Martinez here, and Yes, Jonathan Cohn uh, the

1054
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.679
one and only, joins us now to talk about his

1055
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:02.960
brand new book. Jonathan as always, welcome to Michelle. Good

1056
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:04.920
to have you with us, Oh, great to be with you.

1057
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:05.960
Always enjoyed.

1058
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.679
Well, I'm so excited to talk about this new book, Avatar,

1059
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.880
which is going to be released very soon and soon.

1060
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:18.760
Again, right, yes, very soon. This is this is the

1061
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:24.880
newest book bill is It is probably the most explosive

1062
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:27.000
book I've ever written. I mean, I've written explosive books,

1063
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.679
but this one, The Avatar is going to really remove

1064
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:32.960
the veil behind what is happening in our world, what's

1065
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.440
happening on the political stage, what's happening with what's happening spiritually,

1066
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:42.800
what's happening with the future. It's ancient mysteries happening unfolding

1067
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:47.639
right now and really giving exact revelation of where we are,

1068
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:51.880
where we're going from the Bible. It's amazing things. And

1069
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:53.400
you know, I did the Return of the Gods, and

1070
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.239
this is going to do another level when we get

1071
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:57.840
into the realm of avatars. I know we're going to

1072
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:00.159
open it all up, but we don't even know what's

1073
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.079
going to happen when this thing comes out, because right,

1074
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:03.480
because it is that explosive.

1075
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:06.280
Well and uh, and I'm glad you mentioned the Return

1076
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:07.719
of the Gods because that was going to be one

1077
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:11.360
of my questions. Is this the next step, you know,

1078
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:12.880
from the Return of the Gods?

1079
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.360
Yeah, in some in some ways because because it's going

1080
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.880
to another level because the you know, the return of

1081
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.280
the gods. For those who don't know the mist, the

1082
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.679
basically the principle is that that if a nation or

1083
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:31.840
civilization that has been cleansed or exercised of paganism or

1084
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.639
these spirits these gods, which the Gospel did in Western civilization,

1085
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:39.119
it basically cleansed that out. If it should ever turn

1086
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:41.559
away from God, if it ever turned away from the

1087
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:44.360
Gospel empty itself, then what was cast out of it

1088
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.159
is going to come back into it. The actual ancient

1089
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:50.519
entities or spirits or gods are going to come back.

1090
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.119
And that is what we are witnessing in America, what

1091
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.079
we've been witnessing for the really progressively for the last

1092
00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:59.159
number of decades. But now it's going to another level.

1093
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:01.239
That it's you know, when you have God, when you

1094
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:04.280
have the pagan gods, you have avatars in the pagan world,

1095
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.400
that is, you have vessels or people or leaders who

1096
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.039
are actually used as instruments of these forces. And that's

1097
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.679
where it's going to get really explosive. But yeah, so

1098
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:18.079
it's going to another level affecting our government, really determining

1099
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.960
every election in the last few presidential elections, as well,

1100
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.159
well exactly, and as you say, when the gods come

1101
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.880
back seven times worse is what the Bible tells us. Jonathan,

1102
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.559
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean, you know, it's a

1103
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:35.280
dangerous thing for any quote Christian or Judeo Christian based

1104
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:37.960
culture or civilization to turn away from God. Look what

1105
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.599
happened when Russia did it. Look what happened when Germany

1106
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:43.480
did it. And now we've been watching it happen all

1107
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.480
around us. So yes, it is exactly that. It's you know,

1108
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:50.800
it's it's worse than a pagan or pre Christian civilization,

1109
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.360
is a post Christian civilization because pre Christian, you know,

1110
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.760
you might have a Nero, but post Christian you have

1111
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:57.280
a Hitler.

1112
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.840
Yeah exactly. Well let's get into it. Avatar. What is

1113
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:03.400
the avatar going to reveal?

1114
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:05.719
Well, it's going to reveal those things. This is gonna

1115
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.360
this is again, it's gonna be I believe mind blowing

1116
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.360
that it's going to be taking away the veil you're

1117
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:14.000
gonna see. I mean, behind the people on our national

1118
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.880
stage are ancient mysteries playing out. I mean, even behind

1119
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:21.079
the assassination attempt on Trump, there's an ancient mystery to

1120
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:25.400
an ancient priesthood. There there is so much and again

1121
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:27.719
it's going to be explosive. Could there actually right now

1122
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:31.119
be on the American national stage, political stage, Could there

1123
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:33.920
be one who is in effect an avatar of an

1124
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:36.239
ancient God. It's going to say it sounds crazy, it

1125
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:38.079
sounds wild, but it's actually true.

1126
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:41.199
Well exactly, Well, in the avatar you share something you

1127
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:45.000
never before have written about your encounters with the gods

1128
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:48.960
or spirits. So what happened to you in India when

1129
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.679
you sounded the biblical trump at the Schoffar?

1130
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.519
Yeah, well, I was in. I was in in front

1131
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.599
of like thousands and thousands of people at night, Indian

1132
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.039
people and robes, and they'd never heard the gospel, as

1133
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:03.719
most of them, and I'm going to share the gospel

1134
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.480
to them, but I decided to first sound the show

1135
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:09.000
far the biblical trumpet, and you know, and there, and

1136
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.960
the thing is, I did and something came back. We

1137
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:14.840
couldn't even make sense of it. It was like a wave

1138
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:19.000
came back. And if you can imagine being at an exorcism,

1139
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:23.199
except multiply it by masses, a mass exorcism, it was

1140
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.079
as if spirits were just fleeing. And the thing is

1141
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.039
that that I you know, when I looked later, I'm

1142
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.079
reading and you're in the Bible. It says when you

1143
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.400
sound the show far in the midst of war, the

1144
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.159
enemy is going to be defeated. And it's actually been

1145
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:38.320
an ancient tradition that or belief that when the show

1146
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.920
far sounded, you know, the enemy flees, or actually they

1147
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:44.000
used it in exorcisms. But the people in India, they're

1148
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.880
not reading the Bible and they're not reading a Jewish encycopedia.

1149
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:49.760
So yet it happened, you know, And after it happened,

1150
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:51.559
I was able to give the Gospel and pray and

1151
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:55.320
about seventy thousand people received the Lord, you know, from

1152
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:57.559
that happening. So this is the beginning of what the

1153
01:00:57.559 --> 01:00:59.960
Bible speaks about, says behind the gods, you know, Israel's

1154
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.079
I'm sorry. India is a land of millions of gods,

1155
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.239
so you're good. The Bible says behind the gods are

1156
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:09.079
spirits entities. So that's really part of that mystery. These

1157
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:09.719
things are real.

1158
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:12.320
So what did you think? I mean, you blowed the

1159
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.599
chauffeur and all of a sudden you sensed this reverse waves,

1160
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:18.320
so to speak. It wasn't a settling of the Holy

1161
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.920
Spirit with flames of tongue on people'shead. I mean, you

1162
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:27.320
you sense this movement, this spiritual movement out of where

1163
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.079
you're at. What what did what did you think when

1164
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:30.719
that happened?

1165
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.760
Well, when that first happened, we couldn't even make sense

1166
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:35.679
of it. It was too like overwhelming. Yeah, I realized it

1167
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.840
was like blood curdling screams like someone people like again

1168
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:42.400
of someone being being exercised of a spirit. But it

1169
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.480
was maths of people, I mean, you know, and again

1170
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:48.320
they didn't why did they had no idea about the

1171
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.039
show far in the Bible, you know. So these things

1172
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.679
are real. And I saw it in other lands as well,

1173
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:56.920
wherever they were worshiping gods. There are spirits, There are

1174
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.840
these things, and this is ultimate mystery is ultimately going

1175
01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:02.199
to come to America and what we are dealing with

1176
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:03.679
right now. But I saw it all over the world.

1177
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:07.400
I saw it in India, Cuba, Brazil, Nigeria, all over

1178
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:08.440
the same phenomenon.

1179
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:13.039
Well, you mentioned Cuba, So what happened on the mountaintop

1180
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:13.719
there in Cuba?

1181
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.280
Yeah, I was invited to go to Cuba. Fidel Castro

1182
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:18.360
opened the island for one month for the Gospels. They

1183
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:20.719
asked me to come and sound the so Far minister

1184
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:24.079
across the island, and I'm in one city. In the

1185
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:27.039
city is a gigantic a mountain. On top of the

1186
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:30.199
mountain is they're worshiping gods. They have a house of

1187
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:33.760
idols and they have sacrifices, and they're telling me it's

1188
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:35.760
like cursed up there. So I said, okay, I guess

1189
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:37.960
we're going up there. I go up there with the

1190
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:39.960
so Far and I was like, there's a man in

1191
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.119
front of the of the pavilion of the House of

1192
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.639
the Gods, and he sees me and he starts speaking

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to me. And I don't know the guy, but he

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It, blowing the so Far.

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And the thing is he was a Christian. He said,

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God told them to paint that paint that image, put

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it in the House of the Idols. And that night

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and next to it is this image of this guy,

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far was chipped. It's struck just where that sound comes out,

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struck the head of the isdle. You know in the

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Bible talks about Dagon and people say, oh, that's just

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a legend. No, it's not. God is real. And the

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thing is that that the word came down to the

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on the mountaintop, and revival broke out again the gods,

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this is a real thing, and it's interesting again you

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have the trumpet, the so far.

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Yes, right, without a doubt. We got about fifty seconds

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in this segment here left. Uh the t r OTG principle. Well,

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well that is we'll probably just introduce it and then

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we'll go to break and then we'll come back and

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unwrapid even more.

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Yeah, well, this is everything we just said is going

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to be. It's gonna have to do with America because

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if remember, if you drive God out, the gods are

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coming in or the spirits are coming in, and that

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is actually gonna be. This is actually gonna be determining

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what is happening right now, what's happened to our culture,

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what happened with the elections? Everything. We're going to open

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And we're back with you Bill Martinez here along with

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the best selling author Jonathan Kahn. And he's done it

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again with his next book coming out that we can't

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wait to get our hands on, titled The Avatar. We

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were talking about, you know, what's happening, all these things

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that are affecting America. You know, you and I've talked

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before how Israel is the center and the focus. I've

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often said that Israel is the our hand of God's

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prophetic clock, and what's passing our minutes and seconds. But

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somewhere within the minutes and seconds in the current calendar

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is America. Jonathan.

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Yeah, actually America was patterned after ancient israel I. Remember

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you know the West, which America is the inheritor of that.

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This is Western civilization, really the only civilization that was

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actually exercise of the gods. The Gospel came in and

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drove out all these things. But the warning is that

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if we ever turn away from God, they're coming back.

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And we empty the house. House isn't staying empty. You know,

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Look what we did, you know, we empty the schools.

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We said, we take prayer out, take take the Bible out,

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we empty that out. Well look at what has come

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into the schools, you know. So this is a principle.

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And the thing is that you know, when when for instance,

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remember the Olympics that just happened, right, and there was

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this blasphemous thing they had this Last Supper and then

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the Last Supper, what happened instead of they replaced Jesus

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with a with an ancient pagan god exactly what we're

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talking about. The ancient god was the god Dionysis, and

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it's really a symbol of what's been happening in our culture.

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So they have this guy as this God. Well, you know,

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there was a guy named Frederic Nietzsche who was a

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German philosopher, and he actually did the same thing. He

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drove out God. He said, we got to get rid

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of Jesus. In the nineteenth century, he wrote these, he

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wrote these books, you gotta get rid of it. And

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he actually lifted up the god Dionysus. Same one of

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the Olympics, he says, we and he actually was almost

1355
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a worshiper of this. And I think, you know, Dionysus

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drove his worshipers insane. Mad Well, Nietzsche strangely goes insane,

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and he starts signing his name as Dionysus, as if

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he was taken over by the spirit. And the thing is,

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his writings went on, and you know who picked it up.

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Adolf Hitler picked up Nietzsche's writings, and so did the Nazis.

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He became the philosopher of the Nazi movement. So look

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what happens when you take out God, as we were saying,

1363
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you take out God and you take out Jesus. Well

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what's gonna come is dangerous And look what and that's

1365
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where we are so that is a little real symbol

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of what we saw with the Olympics.

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Yeah, vacuum cannot exist. Yes, you know, if something is

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gonna something is going to fill that God's space, right.

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And it's gonna be God's It's gonna be it's gonna

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be darkness, right.

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Because the thing is it comes in as a counterfeit.

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And this is what fools people, right, it's it's the illegitimate. Yeah,

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it's you know, in Hebrew, the word for God is eloheim,

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but the eloheim also is used to speak of the

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false gods. It also can mean the gods. So it's

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either one Alohem or the other. Either God, you know, God.

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I don't care.

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If it's communism, I don't care if it's secularism. It

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doesn't matter. If you don't have God, the gods are

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coming in.

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Well. In the book the Avatar, when when is the

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actual publishing date of the Avatars? So we get.

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Levatar is coming out. The actual date is September second

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before that people can you I mean you can order

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looks like this if you can see it this is

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what's going to look like. So if you go, if

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you go online or you go on Amazon or anywhere

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right now, you'll see that and you can actually pre

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Well, in the avatar you talk about and we touched

1393
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a little bit on it, on the ancient template that

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reveals what is now happening to America.

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Yeah, well, it's amazing thing. One of these mysteries is

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that when Israel was falling away from God, the there

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were kings and queens who led this apostasy. Well, the

1398
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amazing thing is that there are American leaders who behind

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the actually most of the most of the major American

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leaders in the last half last quarter century actually have

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prototypes with these ancient leaders. I won't go through it

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because we don't have time, but it's amazing. Behind virtually

1403
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each of these leaders there's an ancient prototype. And what

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happens is it's basically when you read about the House

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of Ahab, you know, Ahab was leading the nation away

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from God, and it looked that it was gonna be

1407
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it was gonna be sealed away from God and it

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was going to go to judgment. But then God had

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a surprise, and that is the man named Jaehu. And

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Jay who is the mystery or the prototype behind Donald Trump.

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Jay who was wild, he was unpredictable. He was not

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a politician, He was a fighter. He uh, you know,

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it's amazing. He actually, you know, remember when Trump began

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his campaign from the very beginning, He's at Trump Tower.

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He comes down that staircase, he descends that staircase, dramatic

1416
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law which is the largest of the race. Well, you

1417
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know what, Jay who began on top of a staircase

1418
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and comes down and begins a race to the throne.

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And actually, Jay who makes an alliance with the religious

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conservatives of the land. So did Trump. Jay who comes

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to drain the swamp, So did Trump. Jay who comes

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to power by coming face to face with the nation's

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former first lady. So did Trump. And so it's amazing everything.

1424
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And it's not just the first coming of Trump, but

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what's happening right now, this mystery is even more more so.

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01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:33.199
Right now it's like Jayhu on steroids. You know, Jay who,

1427
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:36.079
in order think about it, in order to come to power,

1428
01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:39.760
he first came against the sitting king and then he

1429
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:43.640
came against a woman who had an anti biblical agenda.

1430
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:46.640
So look what happened in twenty sixteen. First he came

1431
01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:49.520
against Obama, but then he came against a woman with

1432
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:53.359
an umbiblical agenda, which was Hillary Clinton. But then in

1433
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:57.359
twenty twenty four, the template of Jay who replays, He

1434
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:01.199
first comes against the sitting king Joe Biden slaves him

1435
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:04.359
at that debate, and then he comes against a woman

1436
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:07.680
with an anti biblical agenda, which this case is Kamala Harris.

1437
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:10.880
So that's what so he wins. You know, interesting because

1438
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:14.000
in twenty twenty that wasn't the template. He was in power,

1439
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:16.520
he was the king, so he didn't prevail. But in

1440
01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:19.800
twenty sixteen or twenty twenty four, that's why he won.

1441
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:22.920
So even the mystery of our elections is part of

1442
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:24.800
this biblical paradigm.

1443
01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.560
And the people may have freaked out when Donald Trump

1444
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:33.079
wasn't reelected in twenty twenty, but God is sovereign, He

1445
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.960
had a plan, has a plan that is continuing to

1446
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.680
be revealed to us, and it's almost and I've been

1447
01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:43.279
sharing this with our audience, Jonathan, that Trump is an

1448
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:47.960
apocalyptic figure inasmuch as that he's pulling back the shroud

1449
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:50.960
his administration is pulling back to shroud and all these

1450
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:53.680
hidden secrets. I mean, we just found a burn bag

1451
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:57.319
at the FBI that had information that is critical that

1452
01:15:57.359 --> 01:15:59.239
we need to know right now that God says, you

1453
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:00.880
know what, You're ready for the truth.

1454
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:03.680
Yeah, yeah, you know what, you know, you know what, Bill,

1455
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:07.239
It's amazing because what did when Jehu came to power.

1456
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:11.199
You know what he did? He purged the government. It's

1457
01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:14.199
exactly what Trump is doing. He purged the House of Ahab,

1458
01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:19.479
He dismantled the temples of Bail. So Trump is dismantling,

1459
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:22.399
he's purging. He's and it's not that Listen, we don't

1460
01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:24.159
know where Jay who was that with God? We just

1461
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:26.000
know he was a vessel of God, you know, So

1462
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:27.840
we don't know what Trump, but he's a vessel. He's

1463
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:31.119
being used. So you're absolutely right, and it's all part

1464
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:32.640
of the mystery, you know. You know one thing the

1465
01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:35.119
Bible actually speaks about the sword of Jehu. You know

1466
01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:38.600
what happened on Trump's inauguration. He went is at anaugural ball.

1467
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:40.760
They hand him a gift. They had him a sword,

1468
01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:42.720
and he takes it up and starts waving it and

1469
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.159
dancing with it. Who does that. You know, Jay did

1470
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.159
it and Trump did it. So we're actually watching It's amazing.

1471
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:51.319
It's unfolding now, this mystery more than ever where we

1472
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:52.520
are and where we're going.

1473
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:57.359
You wonder if Trump really understands how God is using

1474
01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:01.319
him and all this symbology. Jonathan and you had a

1475
01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:02.960
chance to talk with him about some of this.

1476
01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:06.880
It's interesting that you said that I was led. You know,

1477
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:09.399
eight days before the election, I was called to speak

1478
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:12.119
at an event where Trump was coming, and Trump was there.

1479
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.039
I mean, Trump was there, and I spoke the word

1480
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:16.680
to like out to everybody, but it was to him.

1481
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:19.199
It went viral on the web, and so it gave

1482
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:20.880
a little taste of that. But it's interesting that you

1483
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.600
say it, Bill, because I actually feel that I'm strongly

1484
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.119
supposed to do exactly what you just said, because I

1485
01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:29.359
believe that God's not finished. He has something even higher

1486
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:31.680
with Donald Trump. Pray that God makes the opening. There

1487
01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:34.039
are people trying to do it. So thank you exactly,

1488
01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:36.399
and let me throw something in for you just quickly,

1489
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:39.399
and that is that. You know, here's when how long

1490
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:42.279
has Donald Trump been on the political stage. Well, people

1491
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.520
would say, well, twenty sixteen. No, the first time he

1492
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.319
was a candidate. People don't know this first time he

1493
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:50.760
was a candidate for president was actually two thousand. He

1494
01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:53.760
ran on the Reform Party. It was called Trump two thousand.

1495
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:57.039
He actually won primaries, He won California and went. Now,

1496
01:17:57.039 --> 01:17:59.439
the thing is that if you take that span, when

1497
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:01.520
will his life full year? B it will be the

1498
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:04.640
year twenty eight, twenty twenty eight, and it's twenty eight

1499
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:07.039
years from two thousand. Well, in the Bible it says

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01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:09.399
that Jay who was on the national stage for twenty

1501
01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:10.399
eight years.

1502
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:15.000
Wow, I love this. I mean and time and time again.

1503
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.399
This is what you bring, you know, to our audience

1504
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:23.199
is you bring a depth and understanding of God's faithfulness.

1505
01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:27.279
And the thing is about God. God tells you in advances.

1506
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:31.399
What other God does that? Jonathan right?

1507
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:33.640
You know? You know, yeah, he knows the end from

1508
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:36.000
the beginning and he reveals to his people. You know,

1509
01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:39.560
when people were asking me before Trump decided to run again,

1510
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:41.199
saying do you think it's gonna do? I said, well,

1511
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:44.079
the template in the Bible would say yes, and he

1512
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:45.960
did exactly.

1513
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:48.479
Well, we're gonna go to quick break. Stay with us

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because we've got more from Jonathan Cohn as we talk

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about his new book, He is here the number one

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And we're back with you America. Bill Martinez here along

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with the best selling author Jonathan Cohn. We're talking about

1582
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:45.479
the spranding you book the Avatar. You talked about presidents

1583
01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.560
and the most recent ones. Let's talk about Joe Biden

1584
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:50.960
and his involvement here.

1585
01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:54.359
Yeah, Joe Biden. The mystery of Joe Biden. I reveal

1586
01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:57.119
this in the Avatar that there's an ancient king in

1587
01:22:57.159 --> 01:22:59.760
the Bible part of this template I'm talking about, and

1588
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:03.119
that is the king called Jehoram. Now, Jehoram was weak.

1589
01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:06.399
Jehoram had known other ways of God, but turned against them,

1590
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.359
so did Biden. Jehoram's at the beginning of his reign

1591
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:13.960
suffers a disastrous military withdrawal that kind of darkens his

1592
01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.279
whole reign. So did Biden. It was it was Afghanistan

1593
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:21.000
that's changed everything during Listen to this. During Jehoram's reign,

1594
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:25.359
there are border incursions. Foreign people are coming and crossing

1595
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:29.680
the borders. Well, Joe Biden. Also during the reign of Jehoram,

1596
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:36.279
the land of Israel is attacked, invaded by Arabians and Philistines. Well,

1597
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:39.000
the Arabians. The word that's another word of saying Arab

1598
01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:42.600
and philistine. Today the people called the Palestinians. What that

1599
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:47.079
name means literally means philistine. The Arabic word for Palastinian

1600
01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:50.560
is Philistini. So it so there's an invasion. So with Biden,

1601
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:53.960
the American Jehoram Biden, it comes in. And the ancient

1602
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.640
invasion started from Gaza, the Gaza Strip, and they came

1603
01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:00.760
into Israel and they took hostages back to Gaza. That

1604
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:03.319
happened in the reign of the one who's the prototype

1605
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:06.840
of Biden. Also, towards the end of his reign, the

1606
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:12.680
Jehoram gets beset by physical infirmities, and so did Biden.

1607
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:16.000
He becomes enfeebled, so did Biden. And the thing is

1608
01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:18.840
that by the end of his reign, Biden, sorry, Jehoram

1609
01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:22.439
had one son left, his youngest son named Azaiah. At

1610
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:24.640
the end of Biden's reign, he had one son left.

1611
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:28.000
His name was Hunter. Now both of them didn't serve

1612
01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:31.319
the Lord, but Haziah. Listen to. This comes from a

1613
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:34.399
root word in Hebrew, which is ahaz which means to

1614
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:39.319
seize well in Old German, the word to seize is henton,

1615
01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:43.800
which is connected to the name hunter. So I mean,

1616
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:45.439
you can't make this up. It's amazing.

1617
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:53.239
Wow, that is amazing. So what did we already talked about, Jehu?

1618
01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:56.880
But Alato, let's go ahead and talk about the avatar

1619
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:58.840
opening the mystery of the god kings.

1620
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:01.680
Yeah, it's called the obnever reasons. You see, wherever you

1621
01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:05.079
have when you have these gods in pagan culture, cultures,

1622
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:07.840
in ancient culture, you have avatars. That is the belief

1623
01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:10.439
that the gods can appear as people, or they can

1624
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.079
you know, people can be their instruments or vessels. And

1625
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.880
usually it's the ruler because you know, if you look

1626
01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:19.439
at the Pharaohs, they were they were believed to be

1627
01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:22.399
living gods, you know. And so in the kings of Babylon,

1628
01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:25.359
kings of Asia, it's all over and that these see

1629
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:28.239
in the in the spiritual realm, if the spirits can

1630
01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:31.560
rule over the king, they can rule the nation. And

1631
01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:34.520
so America is at the point where we've we've let

1632
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:37.359
these things in now to the point where these spirits

1633
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:41.000
or these entities or gods, they're not content being coexisting.

1634
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:43.159
They want dominion. And so if they can get the

1635
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:46.079
government or get a leader. You've got the nation. So

1636
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:50.239
could there actually be an avatar in America? Now listen here,

1637
01:25:50.279 --> 01:25:54.000
they're in that in Hinduism, which is basically, you know,

1638
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:56.840
the the remnant of what was pagan would be called

1639
01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.199
Pagan religion, and you have millions of gods. But they

1640
01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:03.199
believe that the House of Brahmen, this this Brahman house

1641
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:07.680
of people, that that's particularly the house where avatars are born. Well,

1642
01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:11.000
there was someone born of the House of Brahmen whose

1643
01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:15.279
name was Kamala Harris. Born of them, she was given

1644
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:19.319
the name Kamala. Kamala. She was named after a goddess.

1645
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:23.319
It's the goddess Kamala. And not only her middle name

1646
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:26.760
is deb DeBie, what does it mean the goddess. So

1647
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:30.359
her name means Kamala the goddess. And actually Hindu writings

1648
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.880
they gave praise to Kamala the goddess. Okay, but not

1649
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:36.800
only that Bill, but her whole life is going to

1650
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:39.640
play out according to the mystery of this goddess. The

1651
01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:44.439
goddess according to the mythology Kamala, she begins by her rise,

1652
01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:49.279
born and rises by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris was

1653
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.680
born by the ocean, and she rises on San Francisco's

1654
01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:56.359
in the ocean by the ocean. Well, also the goddess

1655
01:26:56.720 --> 01:27:01.079
it becomes the number two ruler in the cosmos of

1656
01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:05.319
the Hindu cosmos, the vice the vice god, because she's

1657
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:09.600
married to the king god, which is Vishnu. And actually

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and so so you have Kamala Harris as the number

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two to the president of the land. And the president

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01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:18.119
was called Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe. Vishnu is called the

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01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:21.840
sleeping God. Okay, literally, And now that you know how

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it's kind of a strange's listen, it's not about Kamala Harris.

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01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:25.399
We've got to pray for everybody. They don't know what

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01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:27.920
they're doing. But Kamala Harris. Uh, you know. The strange

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01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:29.960
thing is that she was always laughing, they said, laughing

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01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:30.720
Kamala at.

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The wrong times.

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Yes.

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01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:34.359
Well, well, in Hinduism there is the there is the

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01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:38.520
belief there is the laughing goddess called called the Debi,

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01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:41.560
which is Kamala's middle name. So literally, and that goddess

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01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.800
would laugh while she brought destruction or she'd wore she'd

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01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:47.119
being destruction. So you have the laughing goddess but now

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01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:48.800
let me there's so much, but let me even take

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01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:52.159
it even deeper. There's a day on the Hindu calendar

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01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:56.119
where it's it's all in honor of Kamala, the goddess. Okay,

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01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:00.760
it's called it's called Shahad Pernuma Orma. And so the

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01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:03.560
thing is Kamala. Harris was born in nineteen sixty four.

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01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:07.000
She was born on October twentieth. She was born on

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01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:10.840
shiad Peranma, the day of the goddess Kamala. So literally

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01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:14.079
she's born on that day. Not only that bill, but

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01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:17.119
she but at night. There's a night that is called

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01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:20.000
that is called Koja. You don't have to remember this,

1684
01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:23.119
but Kojagara Pooja, which is called the night they believe

1685
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:26.800
that the goddess Kamala enters the world under the moonlight

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01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:29.720
the full moon, and they open their houses to receive her. Well,

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01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:33.920
Kamala Harris was born at night on that night Kojagara Pooja,

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01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:36.720
under the moon, under the full moon. She was born

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01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.319
on the night she entered the world, on the night

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01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:42.239
that the goddess is said to enter the world. And

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01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:44.640
let me give you one more thing, the Goddess Kamala,

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01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.439
that that there's one day where they celebrated as the

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01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:50.239
birthday of the goddess Kamala, and they tell the story

1694
01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:54.119
of how she was born by the ocean. Well, Kamala, Harris,

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01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.119
the woman Kamala was born on the birth the day

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01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:00.479
of the birth of the goddess Kamala, and so on,

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01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:03.880
as she's born, all around the world, they're chanting the

1698
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:06.600
name of Kamala, of the goddess all over the world

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01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:08.520
as Kamala comes into the world.

1700
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:12.800
Jonathan, here we were before this, we were concerned about

1701
01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:17.840
the Jezebel spirit represented in one Hillary Clinton. Now we

1702
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:19.960
have the rise of Kamala Harris.

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01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:24.399
Wow, well it's and you know what, and I don't

1704
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:26.279
know what we'll have time for. But that's even linked

1705
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:29.119
to the mystery as well, because because Jezebel was linked

1706
01:29:29.159 --> 01:29:32.079
to the gods, by the way, and Jezebel also had

1707
01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:35.319
a daughter, people don't realize this, whose name was Atalia.

1708
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:37.359
And I in the Avatar opened this up. But this

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01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:40.680
is also what happens to. Atalia is also the pro

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01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:45.319
the flesh and blood prototype of Kamala Harris. And I

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01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:48.399
mean it's amazing. I mean, I mean it's amazing. Even

1712
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:50.279
the way she was defeated is all part of the

1713
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:54.079
template of Atalia. It's all there. But all these people

1714
01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:57.119
are linked to the gods, you know, and so Kamala Harris.

1715
01:29:57.159 --> 01:29:59.760
And here's another thing, Bill that you know, in ancient

1716
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:03.880
time they would make pictures, images of the kings and queens,

1717
01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:08.279
merging them to the gods. They represent it. So in Egypt,

1718
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:11.000
hieroglyphics and all that. Well, an image appears on the

1719
01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:14.479
Internet about thirty days before Kamala Harris Wind goes to

1720
01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:16.760
the White House's Vice President. It's put up by her

1721
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:21.119
own family, and it merges her with a with a goddess.

1722
01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:24.079
I mean, it makes her as a Hindu goddess. I

1723
01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:26.359
mean crazy. But you know, and you want to put

1724
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:28.479
this kind of bring it home. There's so much to it,

1725
01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:31.199
but to bring it home as this America was founded

1726
01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:33.840
to be one nation under God, under the rule of God.

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01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:36.880
If she had won, literally, we would be under the

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01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:40.119
rule of one called the Goddess, whose name means the goddess,

1729
01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:43.920
which is a sign of a nation that was you

1730
01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:46.399
put away God, this is what you get. It would

1731
01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:49.439
have sealed our future. But God had the surprise and

1732
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:52.520
he gave us grace and gave us the last chance. Yeah,

1733
01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:54.279
that's just going to ask, you know, why did God

1734
01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:57.399
save us? Because I believe because of the prayers of

1735
01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:01.319
his people. I believe because as if people and you know, prayed.

1736
01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:05.079
I was gathering Bill you know in Washington there were

1737
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:07.479
you know, tens of thousands of believers and we were

1738
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:10.279
praying and praying and praying thirty days before the election,

1739
01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:13.079
and others were praying. Everybody was, you know, we were praying.

1740
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.479
God heard our prayers, and He's merciful. He's given us

1741
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:18.239
a chance. This is a window. But this even links

1742
01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:21.199
up to there. There's even a deeper mystery to Donald Trump.

1743
01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:21.520
I don't know.

1744
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:22.880
We may be able to get it at the end,

1745
01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:25.560
which is part of where we are right now, right exactly.

1746
01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:29.439
I mean you talk about a spiritual battle. I mean you,

1747
01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:32.399
in a sense are the watchmen on the wall that

1748
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:35.600
is revealing all this and saying, hey, this is coming. Well,

1749
01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:36.840
it's not even coming.

1750
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:40.600
It's here, right, it is here, and we are in it.

1751
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:42.159
It is real. I listen. One of the things I

1752
01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:44.239
want to show in the Avatar and in the books

1753
01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:46.279
is that this is real. I mean, this is not

1754
01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:48.920
this is not feeling. This is real. You can see

1755
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:50.800
the exact dates. You can see that this is real,

1756
01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:53.720
real people, real thing, real future. We are in a

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01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:56.279
war and we have been given a chance. And this

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01:31:56.359 --> 01:31:59.439
is the moment he told me about what where's this going? Where?

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01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:01.840
Where headache? And what do we need to know? What

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01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:03.560
does God want you know? It says in the Bible

1761
01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:05.920
the sons of Isigard knew the times and what Israel

1762
01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:08.159
sha to do? Where to be like the children of Isigard.

1763
01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:10.239
We are to know the times? And then what do

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01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:12.920
we need to do because this is a momentous time,

1765
01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:15.239
and this is a critical time can go either way,

1766
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:16.720
and we need to rise to it.

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01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:20.840
Well. If Bible says Jesus wept, He wept over Jerusalem

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01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:24.000
because they missed their appointed time right.

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And we cannot miss our appointed time.

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Got to go to break. We've got more from the

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I always tell Jonathan whenever I talk to him as

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he reveals these things, it's just so mind blowing. I

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tell him, I go, you chicken skin me, you know,

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you just give me goosebumps and holding on end for

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the longest time. He didn't quite He just kind of

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laughed and went along with me. He goes, well, you know,

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crazy Mexican's coming up with something. I don't know where

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it is, but you know, I'll just play with him.

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And that wasn't it. I was about five six years later,

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01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:04.199
you know, because I said, oh, you goosebump me and everything,

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01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:07.159
and and I go, you know, like chicken skin. You know, okay,

1859
01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:09.640
but you know here he's done it to all of us, right,

1860
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.640
we can all tell Jonathan he's chicken chicken skin, the

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whole bunch of us and we're talking about his new book,

1862
01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:18.079
The Avatar from the number one New York Times best

1863
01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:21.920
selling author Jonathan Kahn, an explosive new book that's going

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to change the way you see the world. Jonathan. Uh,

1865
01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:28.319
let's uh, let's talk about Donald Trump.

1866
01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:31.479
Okay, yeah, let's take it to another level. I mean,

1867
01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:34.000
there's an even deeper mystery. You know, when when Jay

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01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:37.520
who began his rise to the throne, they sounded they

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01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:40.880
proclaimed him king, and they sounded trumpets. So here trumpets

1870
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:42.880
were linked to JH. So you got a guy. You

1871
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:47.039
have a man named Trump, which in English means trumpet.

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01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:49.359
And the thing is that, what's a trumpet? You know,

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01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:51.600
a trumpet is a vessel of God. It's a vessel

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01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:53.760
in the Bible. It's the vessel I've member. We started

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01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:56.640
speaking about the trumpet in the nations, the trump sound,

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01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:57.600
you know, to.

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01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:00.239
Get your attention, right, you got to get your attention.

1878
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.319
Yes, exactly, and Trump gets your attention. And a trump

1879
01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:07.399
trumpet is jarring. It interrupts everything, and so is Trump.

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01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:11.239
But it's in the Bible. It was a vessel of

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01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:13.520
the power of God. And an amazing thing. You know.

1882
01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:16.560
We spoke about how the mystery of Kamala Harris, she's born.

1883
01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:19.319
She was born on a pagan holy day holiday when

1884
01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:22.680
all these people are worshiping this goddess. Well, Donald Trump

1885
01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:25.800
was born on a Friday, which is the Sabbath, which

1886
01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:28.640
is a biblical holiday holiday, and all of the world

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01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.680
people are worshiping God. And the thing is on the Sabbath,

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01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:35.039
there is always an appointed scripture, a word from the

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Word of God that is appointed for that particular day.

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And that was ushered in by Donald Trump. So when

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he was born, what was the scripture? The scripture is

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God telling Israel to bring forth a vessel. It's about

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bringing a vessel into the world, an instrument into the world.

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What instrument the trumpet? Literally, he's born. Trump is born.

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He Trump comes into the world. While the scripture is

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bringing the trump into the world. Okay, and so Trump's

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life is all about that. And so think about this

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bill and that election. You have on one hand a

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guy whose name is Trump or Trumpet, and you have

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a woman's whose name is Debi or Kamala Debi, which

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means goddess. And I told you in the beginning, you know,

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when the trumpet sounds, the tradition is the spirits or

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the gods have to flee. So you've got this election,

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you want to you want to pull away the val

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and see really what we were dealing with spiritually a

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trumpet and in both our vessels, a trumpet's a vessel

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and also an avatar is a vessel. So you got

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the two there. And so when the trumpet sounds, the

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goddess or the avatar is blown away, and that's exactly

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what happened. And this is linked to where we are

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right now. And in fact, you know, in fact, you

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know what I said, like what I said when I

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sounded the trumpet in India, that we have this like

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a mass exorcism in Cuba. It was the image of

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a trumpet that took away the crown of the goddess.

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So now we see this again. Well, the thing is

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not only that there's a mystery behind and we all

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we all remember when Trump was almost assassinated. You talk

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about spiritual warfare. I mean there was warfare over this.

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You know, he was almost killed twice, I mean, and

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this time was in Butler, Pennsylvania. But but the thing

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is that that that I want to bring it to

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where we are and what this is all about. Trump

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was you know, or let me say, jayhu Jah was

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the only king of the Northern Kingdom who the Bible

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records was actually anointed. He was anointed with oil by

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a prophet. Well, the first anointing in the biggest annointing

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in the Bible is the anointing of the priests. And

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they had a big ceremony and they were anointed to

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be able to serve God as there his ministers. And

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in order to be anointed, it wasn't just oil, it

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was they had to be touched with blood. And so

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the blood had to touch the ear of the priest.

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The one big annoying. The blood touched the touch. The

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blood had to touch the right ear. It touched the

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right ear of Trump. It had to touch the tip

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of the right ear. It touches the tip of the

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right ear. And then the blood is to touch the hand.

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First thing that Donald Trump do does is he reaches

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his hand touches the blood. That the blood had to

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touch the right hand. It's his right hand. It had

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to touch the thumb. The first thing that comes up

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is his right thumb. And now the blood was to

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touch the feet. Now we can't say because the cameras

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01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:18.319
didn't catch it. But in order for the blood to

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touch the feet, his shoes had to be removed. What

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01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:24.720
happens is Donald Trump's shoes are removed, They push him

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down where the blood went, and he literally is there

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without shoes. He calls for his shoes. The priest in

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the anointing had to have his shoes removed and minister

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without his shoes. But not only that, Bill, Notice when

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this happened. Notice what happened in the anointing of the priest.

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You have a man who's a candidate for the office

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of the priesthood. So here we have the candidate for

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the office of the presidency. And the thing is, it

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was a seven day ceremony. On the seventh day it

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is sealed, the priest is anointed. Okay, Now, Bill, if

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you count on the heat reckoning of time, every day

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ends and begins at sunset. So you have the day

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that it all happened, the assassination attempt, the blood touches him,

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then comes that's the first day. Then comes sundown to sundown,

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second day. Keep counting, and when is the seventh day.

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The seventh day was Thursday night, and that night is

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the night that Donald Trump received the nomination to become president.

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So the anointing was complete on the seventh day. I mean,

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so what it's saying is there is actually a purpose.

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And did you notice Bill that after that event, Trump

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kept talking about God, saying, there's a reason I'm actually

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there's a calling, I'm actually called to do God's will. Well,

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there is the priest is actually supposed to bring the

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nation to God. Well we've got to pray that that

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so that that's going to go into a mystery. Call

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that where we are now called the Black Obelisk. If

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you want, I can just.

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Do a yes, We've got five and a half minutes.

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You got it. You got it. There's no object on

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planet Earth that has an image of somebody from the

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Bible that was actually made when they were alive, except one,

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the Black Obelisk, and the Black Novelisk has an image

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of somebody from the Bible when that person was love.

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01:43:07.119 --> 01:43:09.479
You know what? You know who was Jay Who? And

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01:43:10.039 --> 01:43:13.359
the image is a jay Who bowing down on his knees.

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And that image never matched something until when Donald Trump

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01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:22.079
was pushed down on that stage. He was pushed down

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01:43:22.119 --> 01:43:24.800
and they took a picture. He's on his knees, and

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01:43:24.840 --> 01:43:27.680
that matches the ancient image of jay Who from two

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01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:30.399
and a half thousand years ago. And so here is

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01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:33.359
a message to America. The only way that America is

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going to be great again is if America comes to

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its knees, including Donald Trump, including all of us. You see,

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the only thing that can save America is revival. You know,

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you know, if we change the government, but we don't

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change the people, the unchanged people are going to change

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the government back, and those gods are going to return.

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We've been watching a massive rolling out back of the gods.

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Actually that's the agenda that Donald Trump is rolling back.

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But we need to replace that with a presence of God.

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We have a window that God has given us, and

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the window is for revival. If we don't see revival,

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we're gone. The only thing you can said. But if

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01:44:07.399 --> 01:44:10.279
we see revival, God can do something beyond what anything

2002
01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:13.119
we imagine. That's the point of Jehu. Jayhu was the

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01:44:13.199 --> 01:44:17.680
last chance given before. It's either judgment or revival, and

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we have to go full blast as never before. This

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01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:22.279
is what the avatar. Why I believe the Lord wrote

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01:44:22.319 --> 01:44:24.279
me lev me to write the avatar not only to

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01:44:24.319 --> 01:44:26.439
reveal these mysteries and we just touched on them. There's

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so much more. But the ultimate point is that we

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are in a window of time. It's crucial. We got

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to pray as never before for revival. We got to

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01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:35.239
actually not just pray. We got to live in revival,

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01:44:35.399 --> 01:44:39.119
choose revival, work for revival as never before, because that's

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01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:41.560
the only thing that can save America. We were born

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01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:43.520
for such a time as this, this is the moment.

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01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:48.800
Well, Jonathan, we have to embrace the pain. And you know,

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01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:51.600
if we embrace the pain and really realize how bad

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01:44:52.319 --> 01:44:56.199
it is and how worse it could have been, then

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01:44:56.600 --> 01:44:59.840
you're drawn to God. The spirit will bring you to God.

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So then you see the legitimate versus the illegitimate, and

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that will cause repentance. Like everything you read in the

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01:45:07.800 --> 01:45:11.199
Old Testament, it starts with repentance. And yes, you get

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01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:13.520
to revival, but you can't get to revival until you

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01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.479
realize how how we failed God.

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01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:21.000
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's the conviction of sin.

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01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:24.239
If my people will turn from variable ways, not just

2026
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:27.600
the world, we need to repent. That's when revival comes,

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01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.239
you know, That's when blessing comes. You know. So this

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01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:32.520
this is our hour. You know, this is what Jay

2029
01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:35.279
Who's about, This is what the trumpet's all about. This

2030
01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:37.399
is what the moment's all about. And we are This

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01:45:37.479 --> 01:45:40.880
is critical, This is major, This is momentous, This is biblical.

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01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:43.600
But we got a rise to it and be back people.

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01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:47.640
You know, as you ever before, you're calling out and

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01:45:47.840 --> 01:45:49.279
and people need to hear this.

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01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:51.079
My people.

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01:45:51.840 --> 01:45:57.560
Okay, there are sanctified designated people that God has set aside.

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Right.

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01:45:58.399 --> 01:46:00.239
You know, we talked a little bit earlier ABO about

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the remnant, and so the call is to God's people first, right, Yeah, Yeah.

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01:46:08.119 --> 01:46:10.560
The repentance begins with us, it says in why people,

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01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:13.119
then you know it's going to begin with us, you know,

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01:46:13.159 --> 01:46:14.600
so instead of we yes, we got to pray for

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01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:17.520
America as never before, but we have to realize that

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01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:19.880
we're part of it too. If we don't, we are

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01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:23.079
to repent. If we repent, revival begins with us. Let's

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01:46:23.159 --> 01:46:25.720
choose revival to walk and what do we need to do?

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01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:28.159
Let's do it. Let's not say tomorrow we're going to

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01:46:28.199 --> 01:46:31.119
get it together. Let's say today and God will begin.

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01:46:31.680 --> 01:46:35.560
Yeah. There has to be this sense of immediacy because

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01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:39.000
time is drawing nigh. And as you said, God has

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01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:42.039
blessed us. He has blessed us with this opportunity. You

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01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:43.840
and I talked about this the last time. Is that

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01:46:43.880 --> 01:46:45.960
God is in a sense kind of set time out

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01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:49.119
on the insanity and the chaos, lest we we would

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01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:51.520
go nuts and our heads would explode. Johnathan, we got

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01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:53.159
about a minute and a half left. I'm gonna let

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01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:55.520
you summarize and then tell people how they can get

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01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:56.800
their hands and order your book.

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01:46:56.840 --> 01:47:00.119
Now, yeah, what this is it? Guys? You know a

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01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:01.600
lot of you prayed for I wish I could live

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01:47:01.760 --> 01:47:05.319
in biblical times. Congratulations, you're in biblical times. Now, this

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01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:07.720
is only biblical and we got a job to do,

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01:47:08.039 --> 01:47:10.000
you know, So let's rise to it and with our

2064
01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:12.039
in our own lives, we can do it. God's gonna

2065
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.319
bless you if you say, yes, whatever you gotta do.

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01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:16.359
There's anything in your life that shouldn't be there, get

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01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:18.520
it out, anything that's not in your life that should

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01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:20.920
be you know it. Don't say tomorrow, Lord, I wanna

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01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:23.439
start rising today, and then let's pray as and let's

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01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:25.399
join me. Let's join me and Bill together and all

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01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:28.399
of us to pray as never before for revival for America.

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01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:30.439
God have his way with Trump, have his way with

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01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:33.840
America and the world, and God will answer our prayers

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01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:36.319
as for that. With the Avatar, we just touched on

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01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:38.039
some of the mysteries. If you can imagine it. It

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01:47:38.159 --> 01:47:40.399
is the most explosive I've ever written, and we don't

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even know what's gonna happen when it comes out. This

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is what it looks like. This is a mark up company.

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If you go online right now, you're gonna see it

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and you can get it. You can pre order it.

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And if you have people in your life who need

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to be touched or need to know or wake up,

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get it for them. Okay, but it's the Avatar, it's

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the It says the return of the Agents, the future

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01:47:57.720 --> 01:47:59.960
of America Jonathan Cotton. Now, the other thing is you

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want to get in touch with the ministry. The ministry

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I have least cold hope of the world. If you've

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got a hope of the hope of the world.

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Dot org.

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It's getting the Gospel around the world. You'll get a

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lot of free gifts and for petic updates and I'm everywhere,

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I'm on YouTube and all that stuff. There's a lot

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of fate jonathanck on YouTube side. Yeah right, it's gonna say.

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But if it says Johnathan connofficial, you know so, yeah so.

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And my books are everywhere, but you go anywhere once,

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it's out us everywhere. But you can get it right now.

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Well. And the thing is is we touched on earlier, Jonathan.

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The great news is the legitimate always pushes out the illegitimate.

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Right. I'm holding to that, Bill, Thank you for amen.

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Amen, God bless you Jonathan Cohn, Thank you so much.

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Congratulations on the book. We can't wait to get our

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hands on it. You always are a blessing. Take care

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of my friend.

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Thank you, Bill, you too.

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