Bill Martinez Live
Sept. 8, 2025

THE AVATAR, Jonathan Cahn’s explosive newest book will change the way you see the world.

THE AVATAR, Jonathan Cahn’s explosive newest book will change the way you see the world.
THE AVATAR, Jonathan Cahn’s explosive newest book will change the way you see the world.
Bill Martinez Live
THE AVATAR, Jonathan Cahn’s explosive newest book will change the way you see the world.

Jonathan Cahn, author of nine New York Times bestsellers, now releases what may be his most explosive book yet! THE AVATAR contains revelations so stunning and so shocking that they cannot even be revealed outside of its pages. Who are the avatars? And what do they have to do with the future of America and the world…and your life? Could they lie behind the outcome of every recent American presidential election and the nation’s future? THE AVATAR will reveal what the media will never tell you.

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0:00 The topics and opinions expressed in the following show are solely those of the hosts and their guests, and not those of W FOURCY Radio. It's employees are affiliates. We make no recommendations or endorsements for radio show programs, services, or products mentioned on air or on our web. No liability, explicit or implied shall be extended to W FOURCY Radio or its employees are affiliates. Any questions or comments should be directed to those show hosts. Thank you for choosing W FOURCY Radio. Bill Martinez here and yes, Jonathan Gone, the one and Only, joins us now to talk about his brand new book.

0:46 Jonathan as always welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us. Oh, great to be with you. Always enjoy Well. I'm so excited to talk about this new book, Avatar, which is going to be released very soon and soon again right, yes. Very soon. This is this is the newest book bill that I've written. It is it is probably the most explosive book I've ever written. I mean, I've written explosive books, but this one, the Avatar, is going to really remove the veil behind what is happening in our world, what's happening on the political stage, what's happening with what's happening spiritually, what's happening with the future. It's ancient mysteries happening unfolding right now and really giving exact revelation of where we are, where we're going from the Bible. It's amazing things. And you know, I did the Return of the Gods, and this is going to do another level when we get into the realm of avatars. I know we're going to open it all up, but we don't even know what's going to happen when this thing comes out, because it is that explosive.

1:48 Well, and and I'm glad you mentioned the return of the gods, because that was going to be one of my questions. Is this the next step, you know, from the return of the gods? Yeah, in some in some ways because because it's going to another level, because the you know, the return of the gods. For those who don't know the mist the basically the principle is that that if a nation or civilization that has been cleansed or exercised of paganism or these spirits these gods, which the Gospel did in Western civilization, it basically cleansed that out. If it should ever turn away from God, if it ever turned away from the Gospel empty itself, then what was cast out of it is going to come back into it. The actual ancient entities or spirits or gods are going to come back.

2:34 And that is what we are witnessing in America, what we've been witnessing for the really progressively for the last number of decades. But now it's going to another level. That it's you know, when you have God, when you have the pagan gods, you have avatars in the in the pagan world, that is, you have vessels or people or leaders who are actually used as instruments of these forces. And that's where it's going to get really explosive. But yeah, so it's going to another level affecting our government, really determining every election in the last few presidential elections as well well. Exactly. And as you say, when the gods come back seven times worse is what the Bible tells us. Jonathan, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, you know, it's a dangerous thing for any quote Christian or Judeo Christian based culture or civilization to turn away from God. Look what happened when Russia did it. Look what happened when Germany did it, and we're now we've been watching it happen all around us. So yes, it is exactly that.

3:30 It's you know, it's it's worse than a pagan or pre Christian civilization, is a post Christian civilization because pre Christian, you know, you might have a Nero, but post Christian you have a Hitler. Yeah, exactly, Well let's get into it. Avatar. What is the avatar going to reveal? Well, it's gonna reveal those things. This is gonna this is going again, it's gonna be, I believe mind blowing that it's going to be taking away the veil you're gonna see. I mean behind the people on our national stage are ancient mysteries play out. I mean, even behind the assassination attempt on Trump, there's an ancient mystery to an ancient priesthood. There there's uh, there is so much and again it's going to be explosive. Could there actually right now be on the on the American national stage, political stage, could there be one who was in effect an avatar of an ancient god. It's gonna say it sounds crazy, sounds wild, but it's actually true, well exactly.

4:22 Well, in the Avatar you share something you never before have written about your encounters with the gods or spirits. So what happened to you in India when you sounded the biblical trump at the show Far. Yeah, well, I was in. I was in in front of like thousands and thousands of people at night, Indian people and robes, and uh, they'd never heard the gospel, as most of them, and I I'm going to share the gospel to them, but I decided to first sound the show Far the biblical trumpet, and you know, and there and the thing is, I did, and something came back. We couldn't even make sense of it. It was like a wave came back and I could do you can imagine being at an exorcism, except multiply it by masses, a mass exorcism. It was as if spirits were just fleeing.

5:07 And the thing is that that I you know, when I looked later, I'm reading and you're in the Bible it says when you're say on the show Far, in the midst of war, the enemy is going to be defeated. And it's actually been an ancient tradition that or belief that when the show far sounded, you know, the enemy flees or actually they used it in exorcisms. But the people in India they're not reading the Bible and they're not reading a jews ensycopedia. So yet it happened, you know, and after it happened, I was able to give the Gospel and pray and about seventy thousand people receive the Lord, you know, from that happening. So this is the beginning of what the Bible speaks about, says behind the gods. You know, Israel is sorry, India is a land of millions of gods. So you're got the Bible says behind the gods are spirits entities. So that's really part of that mystery. These things are real. So what did you think?

5:53 I mean, you blowed the chauffear and all of a sudden you sense this reverse waves so to speak. It wasn't a the Holy Spirit with with flames of tongue on people'shead. I mean, you you sense this movement, this spiritual movement out of where you're at. What what did what did you think when that happened? Well, when that first happened, we couldn't even make sense of it. It was too like overwhelming. Yeah, I realized it was like blood curdling screams, like someone people like again of someone being being exercise of a spirit, but it was masses of people. I mean, you know, and again they didn't why did they had no idea about the so far in the Bible, you know. So these things are real. And I saw it in other lands as well, wherever they were worshiping gods. There are spirits, There are these things, and this is ultimate mystery is ultimately going to come to America and what we are dealing with right now. But I saw it all over the world.

6:45 I saw it in India, Cuba, Brazil, Nigeria, all over the same phenomenon. Well, you mentioned Cuba, So what happened on the mountaintop there in Cuba? Yeah, I was invited to go to Cuba. Fidel Castro opened the island for one month for the Gospels me to come and sound the sho far minister across the island. And I'm in one city and in the city is a gigantic a mountain. On top of the mountain is they're worshiping gods. They have a house of idols and they have sacrifices, and and they're telling me there's it's like cursed up there. So I said, okay, I guess we're going up there. I go up there with the so Far and I say, there's a man in front of the of the pavilion of the House of the Gods, and he sees me and he starts speaking to me.

7:27 And I don't know the guy, but he comes over to me and he says, I've been waiting for you. And he says, and he's holding in his hand a ceramic plate that has a painting of me on it, blowing the sho far. And the thing is he was a Christian. He said, God told him to paint that, paint that image, put it in the House of the Idols. And that night something happened that the strap broke apart, and the plate comes down and strikes the head of the idol of the Chief God of Cuba with a goddess named Oshun. And and the next morning the worshipers open up the pavilion. They their Chief God on the floor with the crown removed, and next to it is this image of this guy, this Jewish guy with a so far, and this and it's the show far was chipped.

8:08 It's struck just where that sound comes out, struck the head of the island, you know. And the Bible talks about Dagon and people say, oh, that's just a legend. No, it's not. God is real. And the thing is that that the word came down to the city and people started going to the churches bringing their idols and saying, smash our idols. We heard what happened on the mountaintop, and revival broke out again. The gods, this is a real thing, and it's interesting again you have the trumpet, the shofar. Yes, right, without a doubt. We got about fifty seconds in this segment here left. Uh the t R O TG principle, Well, well that is well, we'll probably just introduce it and then we'll go to break and then we'll come back and unwrap it even more. Yeah, well, this is everything we just said is gonna be, is gonna It's gonna have to do with America because if remember, if you drive God out, the gods are coming in or the spears are coming in, and that is actually gonna be. This is actually gonna be determining what is happening, right, now, what's happened to our culture, what happened with the elections? Everything. We're going to open up a lot of ancient mysteries. That's what I reveal in The Avatar. Well, I'll tell you we are standing by.

9:11 Let's go to quick break. When we come back, we've got more from Jonathan Kahn after this, stay with us, and we're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with the best selling author Jonathan Cohn, and he's done it again with his next book coming out that we can't wait to get our hands on, titled The Avatar. We were talking about. You know, what's happening, all these things that are affecting America. You know, you and I've talked before how Israel is the center and the focus. I've often said that Israel is the hour hand of God's prophetic clock, and what's passing our minutes and seconds. But somewhere within the minutes and seconds in the. Current calendar is America. Jonathan. Yeah, Actually America was pattern after ancient Israel. I remember, you know the West, which America is the inheritor of that. This is Western civilization is really the only civilization that was actually exercise of the gods, the Gospel came in and drove out all these things.

10:09 But the warning is that if we ever turn away from God, they're coming back, and we empty the house. House isn't staying empty. You know, Look what we did, you know, we empty the schools. We said we'd take pair out, take take the Bible out. We empty that out. Well look at what has come into the schools, you know. So this is a principle. And the thing is that you know, when when for instance, remember the Olympics that just happened, right, and there was this blasphemous thing they had this Last Supper and then the Last Supper, what happened instead of they replaced Jesus with a with an ancient pagan god exactly what we're talking about. The ancient god was the god Dionysis, and it's really a symbol of what's been happening in our culture. So they have this guy as this god. Well, you know, there was a guy named Frederic Nietzsche who was a German philosopher, and he actually did the same thing. He drove out God.

10:59 He said, we got to get rid of Jesus. In the nineteenth century, he wrote these he wrote these books you got to get rid of it. And he actually lifted up the god Dionysus, same one of the Olympics, he says we and he actually was almost a worshipper of this. And at the you know, Dionysus drove his worshipers insane bad. Well, Nietzsche strangely goes insane, and he starts signing his name as Dionysus, as if he was taken over by the spirit. And the thing is, his writings went on and you know who picked it up. Adolf Hitler picked up Nietzsche's writings, and so did the Nazis. He became the philosopher of the Nazi movement. So look what happens when you take out God, as we were saying, you take out God and you take out Jesus. Well, what's gonna come is dangerous and look what and that's where we are. So that is a little real symbol of what we saw with the Olympics. Yeah, vacuum cannot exist.

11:46 Yes, you know, if something is gonna something is going to fill that God's space, right. And it's gonna be God's It's gonna be it's gonna be darkness. Right, because the thing is it comes in as a counterfeit. And this is what fools people, right, it's it's the illage legitimate. Yeah, it's you know. In Hebrew, the word for God is elohem, but the eloheim also is used to speak of the false gods. It also can mean the gods. So it's either one Alohem or the other. Either God, you know, God. I don't care. If it's communism, I don't care. If it's secularism, it doesn't matter. If you don't have God. The gods are coming in. Well. In the book the Avatar, when when is the actual publishing date of the Avatars? So we get Levatar is coming out. The actual date is September second before that. People can you I mean, you can order it now and you'll probably get it early.

12:32 And it looks like this. This is a mock up, but it looks like this if you can see it, this is what's going to look like. So if you go if you go online or you go on Amazon or anywhere right now, you'll see that and you can actually pre order it. They do send it early, right, excellent. Well, in the Avatar you talk about and we touched a little bit on it on the ancient template that reveals what is now happening to America. Yeah, well, it's amazing thing. One of these mysteries is that when Israel was falling away from God, thek there were kings and queens who led this apostasy. Well, the amazing thing is that there are American leaders who behind the actually most of the most of the major American leaders in the last half last quarter century actually have prototypes with these ancient leaders. I won't go through it because we don't have time, but it's amazing. Behind virtually each of these leaders there's an ancient prototype. And what happens is it's basically when you read about the House of Ahab. You know, Ahab was leading the nation away from God, and it looked that it was going to be it was going to be sealed away from God and it was going to go to judgment. But then God had a surprise, and that is the man named Jehu.

13:38 And Jay who is the mystery or the prototype behind Donald Trump. Jay who was wild, He was unpredictable, He was not a politician. He was a fighter. He uh, he know, it's amazing. He actually, you know, remember when Trump began his campaign from the very beginning, he's at Trump Tower, he comes down that staircase, he descends that staircase, dramatic launch, which is the largest of the race. Well, you know what, Jay who began on top of a staircase and comes down and begins a race to the throne. And actually Jay who makes an alliance with the religious conservatives of the land, So did Trump. Jay who comes to drain the swamp, So did Trump. Jay who comes to power by coming face to face with the nation's former first lady. So did Trump. And so it's amazing everything.

14:23 And it's not just the first coming of Trump, but what's happening right now, this mystery is even more more so. Right now, it's like Jaehu on steroids. You know, Jay who, in order think about it, in order to come to power, he first came against the sitting king, and then he came against a woman who had an anti biblical agenda. So look what happened in twenty sixteen. First he came against Obama, but then he came against a woman with an umbiblical agenda, which was Hillary Clinton. But then in twenty twenty four, the template of Jay who replays he first comes against the sitting king Joe Biden lays them at that debate, and then he comes against a woman with an anti biblical agenda, which this case is Kamala Harris.

15:07 So that's what so he wins. You know, interesting because in twenty twenty that wasn't the template. He was in power, he was the king, so he didn't prevail. But in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty four, that's why he won. So even the mystery of our elections is part of this biblical paradigm. And the people may have breaked out when Donald Trump wasn't reelected in twenty twenty, but God is sovereign. He had a plan, has a plan that is continuing to be revealed to us, and it's almost and I've been sharing this with our audience, Jonathan, that Trump is an apocalyptic figure inasmuch as that he's pulling back the shroud.

15:47 His administration is pulling back to shroud and all these hidden secrets. I mean, we just found a. Burn bag at the FBI that had information that is critical that we need to know right now that God says, you know what, You're ready for the true Yeah. Yeah, you know what, you know you know what, Bill, It's amazing because what did when Jayhu came to power. You know what he did? He purged the government. Yeah, it's exactly what Trump is doing. He purged the House of Ahab. He dismantled the temples of Bail. So Trump is dismantling, he's purging. He's and it's not that. Listen, we don't know where jay Who was that with God? We just know he was a vessel of God, you know, so we don't know what Trump, but he's a vessel he's being used. Yeah, you're absolutely right, and it's all part of the mystery. You know. You know one thing the Bible actually speaks about the sword of Jehu. You know what happened on Trump's inauguration. He went is an anaugural ball. They hand him a gift, They had him a sword, and he takes it up and starts waving it and dancing with it. Who does that? You know?

16:43 Jay Who did it? And Trump did it? So we're actually watching it's amazing, it's unfolding now this mystery more than ever where we are and where we're going. You wonder if Trump really understands how God is using him and all this symbology. Jonathan and you had a chance to talk with him about some of this. It's interesting that you said that I was led. You know, eight days before the election, I was called to speak at an event where Trump was coming, and Trump was there. I mean, Trump was there, and I spoke the word to like like out to everybody, but it was to him. It went viral on the web, and so it gave a little taste of that. But it's interesting that you say a bill because I actually feel that I'm strongly supposed to do exactly what you just said, because I believe that God's not finished. He has something even higher with Donald Trump. Pray that God makes the opening. There are people trying to do it right exactly, and let me throw something in for you just quickly, and that is that. You know, here's when how long has Donald Trump been on the political stage. Well, people would say, well, twenty sixteen. No, the first time he was a candidate. People don't know. This first time he was a candidate for president was actually two thousand.

17:49 He ran on the Reform Party, it was called Trump two thousand. He actually won primaries, He won California and went Now, the thing is that if you take that span when will his last full year be the year twenty eight, twenty twenty eight's and it's twenty eight years from two thousand. Well, in the Bible it says that Jay who was on the national stage four twenty eight years, I love this. I mean and time and time again. This is what you bring, you know, to our audience, is you bring a depth and understanding of God's faithfulness. And the thing is about God. God tells you in advance. What other God does that? Jonathan right? You know, you know, yeah, he knows the end from the beginning, and he reveals to his people.

18:33 You know, when people were asking me before Trump decided to run again, thinking do you think it's gonna do? I said, well, the template in the Bible would say yes, and he did exactly. Well, we're gonna go to quick break. Stay with us because we've got more from Jonathan con as we talk about his new book. He is here, the number one New York Times bestselling author, Jonathan Cohn, the new book Avatar. Right after this, Stay with us, and we're back with you America. Bill Martinez here along with the best selling author Jonathan Kahn. We're talking about his brand new book, The Avatar you talked about presidents uh and the most recent ones. Let's talk about Joe Biden and his involvement here. Yeah, Joe Biden. The mystery of Joe Biden. I revealed this in the Avatar that there's the there's an ancient king in the Bible part of this template I'm talking about, and that is the king called Jehoram. Now, Johoram was weak.

19:23 Jehoram had known other ways of God, but turned against them, voted Biden. Jahoram's at the beginning of his reign suffers a disastrous military withdrawal that kind of darkens his whole reign. So did Biden. It was it was it was Afghanistan that has changed everything during Listen to this. During Jehoram's reign, there's there are border incursions. Foreign people are coming in crossing the borders, well, Joe Biden. Also, during the reign of Jehoram, the land of Israel is attacked, invaded by Arabians and Philistines. Well, the Arabians the world. That's another word of saying Arab and Philistine. Today the people call the Palestinians. What that name means literally means Philistine. The Arabic word for Palastinian is Philistini. So there's an invasion.

20:10 So with Biden, the American Jehoram Biden, it comes in. And the ancient invasion started from Gaza, the Gaza Strip, and they came into Israel and they took hostages back to Gaza. That happened in the reign of the one who's the prototype of Biden. Also, towards the end of his reign, the Jehoram gets beset by physical infirmities, and so did Biden. He becomes enfeebled, so did Biden. And the thing is that by the end of his reign, Biden, sorry, Jehoram had one son left, his youngest son named Azaiah. At the end of Biden's reign, he had one son left. His name was Hunter. Now both of them didn't serve the lord. But a Haziah. Listen to This comes from a root word in Hebrew, which is ahaz which means to seize. Well, in Old German, the word to seize is henton, which which is connected to the name unturned.

21:02 So I mean, you can't make this up. It's amazing. Wow, that that is amazing. So what did we already talked about Jehu. But but Alato, let's go ahead and talk about the avatar opening the mystery of the god kings. Yeah. Yeah, it's called the obnover reason. You see, wherever you have when you have these gods in pagan culture, cultures, in ancient culture, you have avatars. That is the belief that the gods can appear as people, or they can you know, people can be their instruments or vessels. And usually it's the ruler because you know, if you look at the Pharaohs, they were they were believed to be living gods, you know, and so in the kings of Babylon, kings of Asia, it's all over and these see in the in the spiritual realm, if the spirits can rule over the king, they can rule the nation. And so America is at the point where we've we've let these things in now to the point where these spirits or these entities or gods, they're not content being whole existing.

22:00 They want dominion. And so if they can get the government or get a leader, you've got the nation. So could there actually be an avatar in America? Now? Listen here, they're in that in Hinduism, which is basically, you know, the the remnant of what was pagan would we called pagan religion, and you have millions of gods. But they believe that the house of Brahmen, this this Brahman house of people, that that's particularly the house where avatars are born. Well, there was someone born of the House of Brahmen whose name was Kamala Harris. Born of them. She was given the name Kamala Kamala. She was named after a goddess. It's the goddess Kamala. And not only her middle name is deb Debi, what does it mean the goddess. So her name means Kamala the goddess. And actually Hindu writings they gave praise to Kamala the goddess. Okay, but not only that Bill, but her whole life is going to play out according to the mystery of this goddess, the goddess.

22:59 According to the mathagy Kamala, she begins by her rise, born and and rises by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris was born by the ocean, and she rises on San Francisco, that's in the ocean. By the ocean. Well, also the god is it becomes the number two ruler in the cosmos of the Hindu cosmos, the vice the vice god because she's married to the king god, which is Vishnu. And actually and so so you have Kamala Harris as the number two to the president of the land, and the president was called Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe. Vishnu is called the sleeping God. Okay literally, and no that you know how it's kind of a strange. Listen, it's not about Kamala Harris. We've got to pray for everybody. They don't know what they're doing. But Kamala Harris. Uh, you know.

23:46 The strange thing is that she was always laughing, they said, laughing Kamala at the wrong times. Yes, well, well, in Hinduism there is the there is the belief there is the laughing goddess called called the Debi, which is Kamala's middle name, so literally, and that god us would laugh while she brought destruction or she'd wore she'd be destruction. So you have the laughing goddess. But now let me there's so much, but let me even take it even deeper. There's a day on the Hindu calendar where it's it's all in honor of Kamala of the goddess. Okay, it's called it's called Shahrad Pernuma Ornima, and so the thing is Kamala. Harris was born in nineteen sixty four. He was born on October twentieth. She was born on Sharad Pernima, the day of the Goddess Kamala. So literally she's born on that day. Not only that bill, but she but at night. There's a night that is called that is called uh Koja. You don't have to remember this, but Kojagara Puja, which is called the night they believe that the goddess Kamala enters the world under the moonlight the full moon, and they open their houses to receive her. Well, Kamala Harris was born at night on that night Kojagara Puja, under the moon, under the full moon. She was born on the she entered the world on the night that the goddess is said to enter the world. And let me give you one more thing, the Goddess Kamala that there's one day where they celebrated as the birthday of the Goddess Kamala, and they tell the story of how she was born by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris. The woman Kamala was born on the birth the day of the birth of the goddess Kamala, and so on. As

25:19 she's born, all around the world, they're chanting the name of Kamala the goddess all over the world. As Kamala comes into the world. Johnathan, here we were before this, we were concerned about the Jezebel spirit represented in one Hillary Clinton. Now we have the rise of Kamala Harris. Wow, well it's and you know what, and I don't know what we'll have time for. But that's even linked to the mystery as well, because because Jezebel was linked to the gods, by the way, and Jezebel also had a daughter, people don't realize this, whose name was Atalia. And I in the Avatari opened this up. But this is also what happens to. Atalia is also the flesh and blood prototype of Kamala Harras. And I mean it's amazing.

26:02 I mean, I mean it's amazing. Even the way she was defeated is all part of the template of Atalia. It's all there. But all these people are linked to the gods, you know, And so Kamala Harris. And here's another thing built that. You know, in ancient times they would make pictures images of the kings and queens, merging them to the gods they represented. So in Egypt, hieroglyphics and all that. Well. An image appears on the Internet about thirty days before Kamala Harris Wind goes to the White House's vice president. It's put up by her own family and it merges her with a with a with a goddess. I mean, it makes her as a Hindu goddess. I mean crazy, but you know, and you want to put this kind of bring it home. There's so much to it, but to bring it home as this America was founded to be one nation under God, under the rule of God. If she had won, literally we would be under the rule of one called the Goddess, whose name means the goddess, which is a sign of a nation that was is you put away God, this is what you get. It would have sealed our future. But God had the surprise and he gave us grace and gave us the last chance.

27:07 Yeah, that's just going to ask, you know, why did God save us? Because I believe because of the prayers of his people. I believe because the remnants as if my people and you know prayed. I was gathering Bill. You know, in Washington there were you know, tens of thousands of believers and we were praying and praying and praying thirty days before the election, and others were praying. Everybody was, you know, we were praying. God heard our prayers, and He's merciful. He's given us a chance. This is a window. But this even links up to there. There's even a deeper mystery to Donald Trump. I don't know. We may be able to get it at the end, which is part of where we are right now, right exactly. I mean you talk about a spiritual battle. I mean you, in a sense are the watchmen on the wall that is revealing all this and saying, hey, this is coming.

27:49 Well, it's not even coming. It's here, right, It is here, and we are in it. It is real. I listen. One of the things I want to show in the Avatar and in the books is that this is real. This is not this is not feeling. This is real. You can see the exact dates. You can see that this is real, real people, real thing, real future. We are in a war and we have been given a chance and this is the moment he told me about what where's this going? Where? Where was the headache? And what do we need to know? What does God want you know? It says in the Bible the sons of Isiguard knew the times and what is Reel should do? Where to be like the children of Isiguard. We are to know the times? And then what do we need to do because this is a momentous time, and this is a critical time can go either way, and we need to rise to it well. Bible says Jesus wept.

28:33 He wept over Jerusalem because they missed their appointed time right. And we cannot miss our appointed time. We've got to go to break. We've got more from the one and only Jonathan Kahn stay with his slaves and gentlemen, and we're back with you. Glad you could join us and stay with us. You know. I always tell Jonathan whenever I talk to him as he reveals these things, it's just so mind blowing. I tell him, I go, you chicken skin me, you know, you just give me goosebumps and hold the other end for the longest time. He didn't quite. He just kind of laughed and went along with me because well, you know, crazy. Mexican's coming up with something. I don't know where it is, but you know, I'll just play with him. And it wasn't. I was probably about five six years later. You know, because I said, oh, you goosebump me and everything, and and I go, you know, like chicken skin. You know. Okay, but you know here he's done it to all of us, right, we can all tell Jonathan he's chicken chicken skin, the whole bunch of us. And we're talking about his new book, The Avatar, from the number one New York Times best selling author Jonathan Kahn, an explosive new book that's going to change the way you see the world. Jonathan. Uh, let's let's talk about Donald Trump. Okay, yeah, let's take it to another level. I mean, there's an even deeper mystery.

29:38 You know. When when Jayho began his rise to the throne, they sounded they proclaimed him king, and they sounded trumpets. So here trumpets were linked to Jah. So you got a guy. You have a man named trump, which in English means trumpet. And the thing is that what's a trumpet? You know, a trumpet is a vessel of God. It's a vessel in the Bible. It's the vessel I member. We started speaking about the trumpet in the Nations. The trumpet sounded, you know, to get your attention right. You got to get your attention right, Yes, exactly, and Trump gets your attention. And a Trump trumpet is jarring. It interrupts everything, and so is Trump. But it's in the Bible. It was a vessel of the power of God and an amazing thing. You know. We spoke about how the mystery of Kamala Harris He's born. She was born on a pagan holy day holiday when all these people are worshiping this goddess. Well, Donald Trump was born on a Friday, which is the Sabbath, which is a biblical holiday holy day, and all of the world people are worshiping God. And the thing is on the Sabbath, there is always an appointed scripture, a word from the Word of God that is appointed for that particular day, and that was ushered in by Donald Trump. So when he was born, what was the scripture? The scripture is God telling Israel to bring forth a vessel. It's about bringing a vessel into the world, an instrument into the world. What instrument the trumpet.

31:01 Literally he's born. Trump is born, he Trump comes into the world, while God, the scripture is bringing the trump into the world. Okay, and so Trump's life is all about that. And so think about this bill. In that election, you have on one hand a guy whose name is Trump or Trumpet, and you have a woman's whose name is DeBie or Kamala Debbi, which means goddess. And I told you in the beginning, you know, when the trumpet sounds, the tradition is the spirits or the gods have to flee. So you got this election, you want to you want to pull away the val and see really what we were dealing with spiritually a trumpet and in both our vessels, a trumpet's a vessel and also an avatar is a vessel. So you got the two there. And so when the trumpet sounds, the goddess or the avatar is is blown away.

31:43 And that's exactly what happened. And this is linked to where we are right now. And in fact, you know, in fact, you know what I said, like what I said when I sounded the trumpet in India, that we have this like a mass exorcism. In Cuba, it was the image of a trumpet that took away the crown of the god is so we see this again. Well, the thing is not only that there's a mystery behind we all. We all remember when Trump was almost assassinated. You talk about spiritual warfare. I mean, there was warfare over this. You know, he was almost killed twice. I mean, and and this time was in Butler, Pennsylvania. But but the thing is that that that I want to bring it to where we are and what this is all about. Trump was, you know, or let me say, Jay whu Jah was the only king of the Northern Kingdom who the Bible records, was actually anointed. He was anointed with oil by a prophet. Well, the first anointing in the biggest annointing in the Bible, is the anointing of the priests.

32:38 And they had a big ceremony and they were anointed to be able to serve God as there his ministers. And in order to be anointed, it wasn't just oil, it was they had to be touched with blood. And so the blood had to touch the ear of the priest. The one big annoyan the blood touched the touch. The blood had to touch the right ear. It touched the right ear of Trump. It had to touch the tip of the touches the tip of the right ear. And then the blood is to touch the hand. First thing that Donald Trump does is he reaches his hand, touches the blood. That the blood had to touch the right hand, it's his right hand. It had to touch the thumb. The first thing that comes up is his right thumb. And now the blood was to touch the feet. Now we can't say because the cameras didn't catch it, but in order for the blood to touch the feet, his shoes had to be removed. What happens is Donald Trump's shoes are removed, They push him down where the blood went, and he literally is there without shoes. He calls for his shoes. The priest in the anointing had to have his shoes removed and minister without his shoes. But not only that, Bill, Notice when this happened. Notice what happened in the anointing of the priest. You have a man who is a candidate for the office of the priesthood.

33:49 So here we have the candidate for the office of the presidency. And the thing is, it was a seventh day ceremony on the seventh day, it is sealed. The priest is annoying. Okay. Now, now, Bill, if you count on the Hebrew reckoning of time, every day ends and begins at sunset. So you have the day that it all happened, the assassination attempt, the blood touches him, then comes that's the first day. Then comes sundown, the sundown, second day. Keep counting, and you when is the seventh day. The seventh day was Thursday night, and that night is the night that Donald Trump received the nomination to become president. So the anointing was complete on the seventh day. I mean, so what it's saying is there is actually a purpose.

34:35 And did you notice Bill that after that event, Trump kept talking about God, saying, there's a reason I'm actually there's a calling. I'm actually called to do God's will. Well there is the priest is actually supposed to bring the nation to God. Well we've got to pray that so that that's going to go into a mystery. Call that where we are now called the Black Obelisk. If you want, I can just do yes, We've got five and a half minutes. You got it, You got it. There's no object on planet earth that has an image of somebody from the Bible that was actually made when they were alive, except one, the black obelist and the black novelist has an image of somebody from the Bible when that person was love you know what? You know who was day who? And the image is a jay who bowing down on his knees. And that image never matched something until when Donald Trump was pushed down on that stage. He was pushed down and they took a picture.

35:26 He's on his knees, and that matches the ancient image of Jayhu from two and a half thousand years ago. And so here is a message to America. The only way that America is going to be great again is if America comes to its knees, including Donald Trump, including all of us. You see, the only thing that can save America is revival. You know, you know, if we change the government but we don't change the people, the unchanged people are going to change the government back, and those gods are going to return. You we've been watching a massive rolling out back of the gods. Actually that's the agenda that Donald Trump is rolling back. But we need to reach placed that with the presence of God. We have a window that God has given us, and the window is for revival. If we don't see revival, we're gone. The only thing you can said. But if we see revival, God can do something beyond what anything we imagine. That's the point of Jehu Jayhu was the last chance given before. It's either judgment or revival, and we have to go full blast as never before. This is what the Avatar why I believe the Lord wrote me lev me to write the Avatar not only to reveal these mysteries and we just touched on them. There's so much more. But the ultimate point is that we are in a window of time. It's crucial. We got to pray as never before for revival. We got to actually not just pray, We got to live in revival.

36:37 Who's revival? Work for revival as never before, because that's the only thing that can save America. We were born for such a time as this, This is the moment. Well, Jonathan, we have to embrace the pain. And you know, if we embrace the pain and really realize how bad it is and how worse it could have been, then you're drawn to God. The spirit will bring you to God. So then you see the legitimate versus the illegitimate, and that will cause repentance. Like everything you read in the Old Testament, it starts with repentance. And yes, you get to revival, but you can't get to revival until you realize how how we failed God.

37:18 Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's the conviction of sin. If my people will turn from variable ways, not just the world, we need to repent. That's when revival comes, you know, that's when blessing comes. You know. So this this is our hour. You know, this is what Jay Who's about, This is what the Trumpet's all about. This is what the moment's all about. And we are this is critical, this is major, This is momentous, This is biblical. But we got a rise to it and be back people. You know, as you ever before, you're calling out and people need to hear this. My people, Okay, there are sanctified designated people that God has set aside. Right. You know, we talked a little bit earlier about the remnant, and so the call is to God's people first, right, Yeah, Yeah.

38:06 The repentance begins with us, it says in why People. Then you know it's going to begin with us, you know, So instead of we Yes, we got to pray for America as never before. But we have to realize that we're part of it too. If we don't, we are to repent. If we repent, revival begins with us. Let's choose revival to walk and what do we need to do? Let's do it. Let's not say tomorrow we're going to get it together. Let's say today and God will begin. Yeah, there has to be this sense of immediacy because time is drawing nigh. And as you said, God has blessed us, he has blessed us with this opportunity. You and I talked about this the last time. Is that God is in a sense kind of set time out on the insanity and the chaos, lest we we would go nuts and our heads would explode. Johnson, we got about a minute and a half left. I'm going to let you summarize and then tell people how they can get their hands and order your book.

38:54 Now. Yeah, well this is it, guys. You know there are a lot of you who prayed for I wish I could live in biblic times. Congratulations, you're in biblicult times. Now this is only biblical and we got a job to do, you know, so, let's rise to it and with our in our own lives, we can do it. God's gonna bless you if you say yes, whatever you gotta does, anything in your life that shouldn't be there, get it out, anything that's not in your life that should be you know it, don't say tomorrow. Lord, I'm gonna start rising today. And then let's pray as and let's join me. Let's join me and Bill together in all of us to pray as never before for revival for America. God have his way with Trump, have his way with America and the world, and God will answer our prayers as for that. With the Avatar, we just touched on some of the mysteries. If you can imagine it, it is the most explosive I've ever written. And we don't even know what's gonna happen when it comes out.

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40:20 Well, and the thing is is we touched on earlier, Jonathan. The break news is the legitimate always pushes out the illegitimate. Right. I'm holding to that, Bill, Thank you for amen, Amen. God bless you, Jonathan Cohn, Thank you so much. Congratulations on the book. We can't wait to get our hands on it. You always are a blessing. Take care of my friend. Thank you, Bill. YouTube