Is It Too Late To Rediscover America?

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FORCY Radio. Well, good afternoon, Bill Martinez. Here the question that

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is hanging in the balance, it
seems these days, no matter where you

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are in this kind of grit and
dair, i'd say you around the world,

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people are wondering is it too late
to rediscover America? What is going

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on? You know, America has
a sitting president on the brink of impeachment

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for bribery and the politically motivated indictments
of a former president foemanting a lack of

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faith and confidence in our country's leadership, and it is impacting every aspect of

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our American way of life, from
ourselves personally, our families, our communities,

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just about every institution that we used
to believe in. Right, Well,

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America must come back to truth if
it's going to save itself. My

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good friend Scott Powell is joining us. He's the author of Rediscovering America,

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a fellow at Stanford Hoover Institution,
currently a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

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Scott, Good afternoon. Good to
have you with us. Bill,

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It's great to be with you.
Well, I'll tell you just a little

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bit just to kind of let you
know what's happening. Little family business here.

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Our daughter is in Maui, and
you know, Maui has been burning

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for the last couple of days.
It's just been incredible. We see the

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devastation the footage there. It looks
like it is a war zone. The

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fires and the winds brought on by
Hurricane Dora have just annihilated the city of

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Lahinah. And our daughter and our
grandkids and son in law live in Lahinah

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and we just got confirmation Scott that
the houses around where they live in their

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community unfortunately burned down. Her house
is still standing. Is that a miracle

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or what? Lord? Yeah,
I mean, this is just amazing.

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So the thing, you know,
what's happened is they had to evacuate,

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and they made it just out,
just in time. The way things again,

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the hand of God h had had
them in a position where they were

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able to get away as the fire
was coming in so quickly upon them,

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you know, as the local officials
said, you know, winds blowing seventy

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eighty miles an hour. It moved
so rapidly they couldn't They were defenseless to

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do anything at all to retard the
spread of the fire, and it just

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devastated that local community. But you
know, the Hawaiian people, the Johanna,

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the families there being what they are, have all come together. The

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kids have relocated temporarily with several different
friends. I guess they're you know,

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maybe couch jumping or whatever, but
they're making it work with their friends in

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the Peali in the Dabeli Bay,
and uh, you know, working things

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out. As the days ahead are
going to be long. I'm sure there

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will be more tears. There's going
to be a lot of labor and uh,

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you know, heartbreak that will continue
in the months ahead as they rebuild

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and recover. Because that whole area, you know, Front Street, if

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you're familiar at all, with Lahina
where all the retail has taken place.

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That's that has all gone in fact
in including the Banian tree, that iconic

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Banian tree that's been around for over
one hundred years that has got burnt down

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to its roots as well, the
harbor across the way, all the boats,

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any of the boats that didn't get
out to see they were all burnt

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down. So it's like I said, you look at it and you think,

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oh my gosh, it looked like
a war zone. It's amazing.

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Well, the only good thing that
comes out of crisis is that people tend

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to come together. Yeah, so
let's let's pray for that, and you

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know they will recover. Yes,
yeah, Well, well the thing is

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as an intro I share that with
you because in some sense, when you

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look at America today, we've become
a shell of ourselves. And you and

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I've been talking about this. You
stated quite clearly in your book is it

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too late to rediscover America? And
you pose, you pose the question,

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and you and I have maintained our
faith in this great American idea, but

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more importantly, the people who still
who still believe in it Scott right,

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and there are a lot of people
that didn't believe in the in our country

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and the principles that are really the
foundational principles of our country. The most

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important one is that we're free people. That we have freedom, freedom to

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speak, freedom to think, and
freedom is the foundation upon which all progress

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is made because you know, if
you want to pursue a new idea,

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you want to be creative, you
have to have the freedom to do that.

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And so when we think about progress, progress is the outcome of freethinking.

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It is the outcome of people finding
solutions to problems, finding better ways

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of doing things. And usually most
major projects involve more than one person,

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So you've got to have debate between
people this question about what's the best way

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to proceed, and you've got to
be based on factual truth. You can't

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be you can't manage a business when
the books are cooked or when you don't

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have accurate numbers right right, So
the same in every field is the same.

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In science, scientific progress is made
by scientists having facts, using the

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scientific method to disprove various theories until
so they get closer and closer to understanding

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what is you know, what's the
reality? What's the truth? What can

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we you know? What have we
discovered here? What distilled this down to?

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We need that in our country in
order every society, if it wants

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to progress and succeed, needs to
have freedom exactly. So we know that

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history is on our side if we
can preserve our freedom, because countries that

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are unfree, like China cannot ultimately
succeed. Right well, exec and we

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see clearly what's happening. By contrast, you know, you said something is

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really important here and we need to
emphasize that. When we talk about freedom,

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you're talking about the very foundation on
which this country stands, and the

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very foundation on which it stands,
and where freedom comes from. It doesn't

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come from a political party. It
didn't come from the pilgrims at income,

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you know, from any European king. It only came from one king,

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and that is the King of Kings, the King of all kings, the

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Lord of lords, God Almighty himself. So that is the foundation on which

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this republic was built. Now you
take away any part of that foundation and

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it starts to crumble. And I
would dare say, Scott, and you

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point this out in your book,
this is what we're realizing, and this

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is why you said, and you
and I have been in agreement from day

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one of this. If we have
to return to first principles, and maybe

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you can address to the people into
into those that are watching what we mean

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by first principles. Well, first
principles are are they foundational principles of They're

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the building blocks if you will,
it's it's you could call it the foundation,

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or in some cases there's a critical
one, we might call that a

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cornerstone. The cornerstone keeps all the
other stones in place. And I would

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argue that that freedom, free speech, free thought is the cornerstone of all

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of the other freedoms right now.
The you know, the Founders, in

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their wisdom at the time of the
Constitutional Convention, after they had arduously crafted

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an amazing government that had three parts
to it, the executive, the legislature

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in judiciary that they and that and
that division that that division was intended to

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provide checks and balances so that abuse
of power could be mitigated. In other

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words, the Founders were recognized that
fallen nature, that sinful nature, abuse

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of power is a reality, and
therefore we have to create a system that

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can sort of keep abuse of power
in check. But at the same time

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they wanted to create a system that
honored people's rights and gave them maximum freedom

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so that they could, you know, make the most out of their lives.

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They could find meaning fulfillment. Ultimately, you know, Jefferson called it

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happiness, the pursuit of happiness,
and most people find that it isn't money

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that makes makes you happy. When
you when you profile and you talk to

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successful business people, you will find
that they're not necessarily completely motivated by money.

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More often they're really motivated by building, by creating new things, by

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solving problems, and many of them, by being acknowledged. You know that

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you're that you're worth something, and
that you're you're part of the conversation.

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We're talking with Scott Powell. He's
the author of Rediscovering America, currently a

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Senior Fellow at Discovery Institute, a
member of the Committee on This Present Danger

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China. Go ahead, Scott,
pick it up from there. So so

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that's our major what we see the
the the restriction on freedom now in America

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is really unprecedented. We've never experienced
this kind of fundamental challenge to our unalienable

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rights are god given, unailing the
rights which are protected in the Constitution in

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the Bill of Rights first Amendment is
under assault like we have never seen it

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before, and it is being assaulted
by none other than our government, which

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our government is trying to restrict speech, restrict access to information. And you

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know, we could trace this back
to at least the in sort of a

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big way, a seminal way,
you know, the something called Project mocking

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Bird, which was which was developed
after World War World War two and the

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Soviet Union became a big threat,
we had an unfolding Cold War. Somehow,

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it was believed that that Americans people's
you know, that we needed to

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prevent some views from being heard and
other views being allowed to be expressed.

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And so a Project mocking Bird involved
penetrating the media in America. This is

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back in the nineteen fifties, right, So people that talk about how the

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media is biased today, well it
has its roots at least in the nineteen

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fifties. Project Markingber was a major
operation and involved four hundred journalists in all

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the different branches. All the major
media, all the major newspapers, all

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the major TV networks at that time
had CIA operatives within them. Can you

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believe it? It's true? Well, that went on and it was not

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really discovered for at least twenty years, so you assume they never closed it

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down. So what we're experiencing today
with the government influencing social media, influencing

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the major media, this is nothing
new, exactly. Well, Scott,

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real quick, just interruption here regarding
Project Markingberg. Didn't that give rise to

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Senator Eugene McCarthy. Are you speaking
of Eugene or Joseph McCarthy or McCarthy.

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I'm sorry, yes, you know, I can't speak to that. I

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know that Joseph McCarthy was terribly maligned. In fact, he was a patriot

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and he found that the communists said
he identified communists and what are known as

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fellow travelers that had penetrated the US
government. And we still have those people

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today, I might add, oh, yeah, in bigger numbers, bigger

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yeah, exactly. You know they
don't allowed enumerates them, right, few

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of them pay tribute to Moscow.
The majority of the communists in our government

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now pay tribute to Beijing, to
the to the Chinese Communist Party. And

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we have people who look Joe Biden
is the most high profile example of this

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all where he basically was compromised and
I believe he's a controlled asset to a

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large extent. Yeah, no question, granted, divine point of that pretty

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clearly in her book, you know, the laptop from Hell, uh,

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the the captured elites. But I
believe as we continue to pull back this

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onion skin, we're going to realize
that there's a lot more people than we

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realized that have been captured by the
CCP. Scott, Oh, absolutely,

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And you know we don't necessarily have
to you know, finger them, identify

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all of them. I think the
people that have violated the law need to

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be they need to pay a price. They need to be prosecuted. Right

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if someone has committed treason sedition,
there should be a price to be paid.

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Now that we know going back in
our history that treason was a capital

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crime for which the death death penalty
was appropriate. I'm not making a case

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for that at all, but but
I think think it seriously though, Scott

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about because the people, you know, and it's funny Democrats will be the

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first to say, we want to
make sure this never happens again. Well,

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if you want to make sure it
never happens again, there has to

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be consequences, right, serious on
the streets of America. There's no consequences,

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so you keep getting more crime,
right, and I'm of the ILK.

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Now I'm becoming one that says,
look at the you know, you

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see all these young kids going out
and destroying cities and stealing and all this

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that's going on, and uh,
you know, and the question is people

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who ask, they go, where
are the parents? And I go,

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yeah, where the parents. They
should be jailed. Jailed the parents,

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And I'll tell you that'll that that'll
curtail some activity really quick. I think

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it might. Yes, I'm just
saying just though, just a thought.

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Well, I think you know,
Trump has recently come out and said that

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he would favor the death penalty for
for pedophiles. People who violated children should

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face the death penalty. Well,
uh, that's probably something that would deter

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uh some pedophiles, if not most. I think that's definitely what down the

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road, because right now we're so
mired we have no idea the depth of

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the pedophile ring that exists. I
mean, you have an idea because look

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what happened with Jeffrey Epstein and all
how quiet it's become. I mean it's

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like the you know, as they
said in the movie you know the cocker

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roaches have scrambled. I mean,
and and you're realizing, like you said,

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it's not necessarily that you have to
point them out, but you can.

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You can see by the fruit of
their policies and the things that they

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support, that they're really not serious
about stopping human trafficking. They are they

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are betters to the sexual trafficking of
young kids, pedophilia and this sexual perversion

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that's being thrust upon our young kids
in the public institutions, educational centers today

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across America. I think we're I
think that the all the information regarding Jeffrey

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Epstein and his so called Black Book
and so forth has been sequestered hidden because

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it would reveal too much that would
reach too many high places. And I

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believe that the deep state, we
might find out that the so called deep

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state that controls so many things actually
was using Jeffrey Epstein, that Jeffrey Epstein

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was part of this operation to compromise
high level people in government and the private

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sector. In the private sector,
we have none other than Bill Gates who

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frequented Jeffrey Epstein's Island and Plane,
and when he was interviewed about it,

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you could see by his body language
that Bill Gates was guilty. He would

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he showed guilt beyond a shadow of
a doubt for anyone that understands body language

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exactly so, and look what and
look what Gates is doing. He's part

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of this, you know, cabal
of people who want to depopulate the earth

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and are willing to use vaccinations to
do that, poison people. He's buying

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up farmland. Why is he doing
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because the big game plan is to
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ni any h a many faceted effort
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production on land, restricting fertilizer.
It goes on and on and on.

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What you find is that these things
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restricting fertilizer, used to the Green
New Deal, to you know, to

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to air pollution, to you know, to to you know, releasing too

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much CO two and methane. Uh. It's an incredibly it's an incredible uh

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confluence of factors that are going on. And so people need to become they

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need to understand the main streams of
this, uh, this operation to take

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our freedom away and and and ultimately
take the sovereignty of America away. The

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game plan is for America to to
end and be subsumed to be part of

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a new global order. America stands
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we have a constance. We're the
only country in the world that has a

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constitution which gives people rights that are
that are sacred, they're God given rights.

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And so America is the chief bulwark
against this, you know, this

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new world order, this globalist new
world order. And it is Christians within

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America that are the very front line. And that's why Christianity is under attack

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like never before. And we have
to be aware that we are under attack,

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but that God is on our side
and that we need to keep telling

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the truth, keep peeling that onion
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we want to we want to peel
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find out all of the truth and
that and how it's all related, how

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this, how the enemy is working. And then we need to stand firm

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and stand up and push back.
If we push back, if enough people

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push back, we can stop this. That's the important thing to understand.

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continue our conversation with Scott Powell.
His book Rediscovering America that is available in

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all the usual places. I must
read. It will be an inspiration to

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you because the things that are happening
in our country today, you know there

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is a big disconnect from our constitution, and you will begin to realize that

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your eyes are not lying to you, and then you will take the next

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step. And that is what we
always have been encourage our viewers, our

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listeners to do, and that is
to own your own knowledge. As Scott

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was saying earlier, the World Economic
Forum has a goal, you know,

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a one world government. Now we
know that a one world government will precede

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the legitimate one world government, because
that's what happened. You always get the

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counterfeit before you get to look at
them. So we're going to have to

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go through the counterfeit, and the
counterfeit tells us that I think it's by

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the year twenty thirty, Scott,
if I'm remembering correctly. According to their

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manifesto, Klaus Schwab said that by
twenty thirty you will own nothing and you

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will like it. And he says
also that by then as well, you

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will be eating bugs and you will
like it. Right, that's right.

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Well, I mean we laugh,
but I think they actually are serious.

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Yeah, so until they find out
that bugs are releasing methane worse than cows,

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but that science yet is yet to
come out. Yeah, you can

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be sure that they won't be eating
bugs, right, that the leaders will

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be eating cavea are and salmon and
steak and beef. It's us, the

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peons, the people that will have
to be serfs and slaves to the elites.

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So the beauty of America is that
we are a country of the people,

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by the people, and for the
people, and the original vision of

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our founders that really was carried out
for by imperfect governments and presidents over many

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decades. Through the eighteen hundreds.
I mean, we fought a civil war

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and that was over. It started
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Southern States felt that they had been
violated. It wasn't just that it was

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slavery at issue. They had many
complaints against Washington's right rule, at the

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least of which was taxation that they
were a lot of commerce was going through

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their port of Charleston and elsewhere,
and terrorists were being sent to Washington and

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they never got any money. So
it was very similar to the complaints of

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the of the founders in the original
Revolutionary War. Anyway, secession took place.

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That was the beginning that that was
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Underneath all that was the issue of
slavery. And you know, Lincoln was

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not doing well in the Civil War. The Confederacy was winning for the first

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sixteen months, and Lincoln was a
prayerful man. He took everything to the

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Lord in prayer, and he finally
got an answer why he why he wasn't

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getting God's favor. He realized that
I need to align the cause of the

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Civil War not with secession, but
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once he once he really understood that's
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up an Emancipation Proclamation, which was
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And the fate of the war changed
after that because because Scott, that

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was really the real issue, wasn't
it all along? It wasn't about slavery,

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because they knew that about Lincoln,
because Lincoln was very well known for

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being a very anti slavery political candidate. You know, he was very unusual

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in coming to the presidency from one
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served one term. That's never happened
before except with Donald Trump, who served

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no terms, who came from the
private sector, didn't come from a military

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background. He came strictly from the
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other thing two Scott, real quick, I'm sorry, just remind everybody that

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you know, he didn't get in
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I mean, he had many failed
candidates. So when you consider the timing

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the topic, I mean, if
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God that Abraham Lincoln was the man
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he Oh he was, he was. He was an amazing man. He

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wasn't perfect. In fact, in
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believe you could see his growth as
a Christian more deeply and profoundly than any

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other president because he was on his
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whole you know, he stepped into
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the presidency in March because inaugurations were
later back then, and they're already seven

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seven states had left the Union.
He'd lost seven states the very beginning of

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his administration. He has this crisis
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War, you know, broke out. He was on his knees perpetually because

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he really cared about the people,
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wasn't just a winning of the Union. It was preservation of the country that

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he really wanted to see and he
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be extended to all American people,
that blacks had all the rights of white

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people, and that that there's no
there's no compromise on that, there's no

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middle ground on that. We have
to we have to realize they need to

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get full rights. And so by
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another were they free from free from
slavery, they could vote, but we

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had black lives, but black laws
and then Jim pro laws. So segregation

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and discrimination followed us all the way
into the twentieth century. Skeptics would say,

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well, do you see America?
You know, uh, you know,

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you never really solved the problem we
have this racism. Well guess what

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happened. God raised up another remarkable
man. His name was Martin Luther King.

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He was not a perfect man.
No one whom God has worked through

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is perfect. God only has sinners
to work through. Period. Do we

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get that? Do we understand that? Can we agree on that? Yes?

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Absolutely? Okay, so Martin Luther
King, but he was he was

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dedicated to this cause of equality of
all people. He spent fifteen years of

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non violent civil rights activism that sent
him to jail. Twenty nine times,

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and ultimately an assassin's bullet took him, took him down, but he succeeded.

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And after the Civil rights movement,
there were a dozen laws you know,

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that were legislated over the next years
that gave Black's full opportunity. No,

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there was no barrier, nothing was
unavailable to them. In fact,

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as time passed, we even sort
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preferential treatment and employment practices. So
this notion that the woke culture would roll

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all of this back is absolutely insane
and must be stopped, because we were

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making remarkable progress, you know,
up through the really up through the eighties,

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and admittedly, you know, we
took some wrong turns with taking prayer

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out of school, with legalizing abortion, and one could argue that, you

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know, homosexual marriage, to diminish
the sacredness of marriage and therefore led to

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other things. And now we are
at a transgender moment, which is which

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is crazy because it's it defiles God's
creation. Right, God created, God

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created us. We can't improve on
that, We can't change that. No,

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Well, like you said, is
that and the thing that I find

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quite interesting is laws we are already
in place before the mid sixties. And

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it's interesting that we're talking about one
hundred years after Abraham Lincoln. Then you

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have the entrance of Martin Luther King
Junior and basically reminding people that laws were

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there. But as you as you
started out this particular portion of this segment,

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we're talking about the failings of man, the fact that we're human being,

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the fact that we're not perfect.
And it's interesting, especially when it

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comes to politics, how politicians strive
to reinvent the wheel over and over again,

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because oftentimes, Scott, I gotta
tell you, you know, they

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come up with laws and they act
like it's something new, and you're going,

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we already have that law. Why
don't we just enforce the law that's

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already in play. Why are we
going through all the shenanigans to create new

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laws when all we have to do
is follow the ones that are there.

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Now, you're going to give us
some new laws that you're not going to

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follow anyway, So why are we
going through this? Well, it's called

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kabuki theater. You know. They
go through this theater because they assume that

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the average person is has no memory
of what's already been passed, and they

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purport to solve a problem, right, and they got the problem that they

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create, and then they always solving
the problem that actually they end up making

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it worse. It's kind of like
again in the mid sixties, Lyndon Johnson

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decides, Oh, we're gonna have
a war on poverty. Well, you

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know, the poor people at the
time, go God, didn't even realize

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it was that bad. Right,
And so here we are. And I

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was talking with Charles Woodson from the
Woodson Institute, and you know, and

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I asked him, I said,
look at what are we fifty sixty years

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down the road. We've spent twenty
five maybe thirty trillion dollars since the War

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on poverty. How are we doing
after this investment? Terribly? We barely

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moved the needle for all of the
money that we've invested under this faux deal.

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And what it was all about is
what was the motivation of Lyndon being

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Johnson In his words, I can't
say it directly because it is an insult,

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but basically he said he told the
Southern Democrats, if we passed this,

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we will have those ends voting Democrat
for the next hundred years. Well,

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I believe that that's that was a
big part of it. I think

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we have to remember that if we're
to solve problems, we have to align

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all of the solution, all of
the solutions with the way God designed us.

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Amen. Amen. And when we
do that we will be successful.

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So creating a new you know,
a new plantation where black people are receiving

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welfare and they receive more more welfare
with the more children they have out of

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wedlock. You're you're that was that's
been so harmful to our country, not

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only in in busting up the black
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figure out of the home, what
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and authority in training for children to
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You have an explosion of crime real
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their brilliant deduction, they go their
problem with America as there's an epidemic of

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fatherlessness. Well, no kidding.
If you take them out of the home

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and you put them in jail and
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then this is what you've got.
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Bill Martinez here. Good to have
you with us as we continue our

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conversation with the author of Rediscovering America. He's a senior fellow at the Discovery

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Institute, member of the Committee on
this Present Danger, China. Scott powellers

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with us. Scott, I just
want to go back a little bit and

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talk about these foundational issues, the
benefits that we the people have received as

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a result of what I determined to
be our birthright, our birthright that came

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from God, not from politics.
Because I believe this whole American idea was

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an answer to prayer. The Pilgrims
for many years, you know, for

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I think ten twelve years, you
know, sought God, petitioned God that

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they would have a place where they
could come to and to be able to

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worship Almighty God freely. And God
answered their prayer and they honored it.

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And it was we entered into the
Father enters into covenants, and that he

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entered into a covenant with our founding
fathers, starting with the Pilgrims, and

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it went forth from there. But
out of that came our birthright, which

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is clearly and my humble opinion,
is enumerated in these founding documents, you

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know, the Declaration of Independence,
the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.

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I mean this, You know,
this information and the enumeration of these rights

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are so brilliant that you know that
it could never have come from one man,

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that it had to be from the
divine. Even our first president,

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George Washington admitted as much right he
should did absolutely. I mean what you

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know, I would like to you
know, we wouldn't do justice to our

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audience without giving him reasons for hope
in what is a dark time and and

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the hope really comes comes about by
understanding how God. You know, how

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God protects his people, how God
will enable his people, and how God

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will even God will even perform miracles
when we're faithful to him. This is

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this is the story of the Israelites
leaving leading Egypt under Moses's leadership. How

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was it that they weren't not you
know, they weren't annihilated by the greater

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forces of the Pharaoh's army is up
against the Red Sea because God, they

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were faithful. God intervened through Moses. The sea was open, and it

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wasn't just open for them, it
was closed up on the evil forces.

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So you know, when God moves, he not only helps his people,

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he can destroy God's people's enemies.
And I think those days are coming for

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us because that is the way God
has work throughout history. The beauty of

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rediscovering Americas, it tells all these
stories. And Bill, actually I would

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go back before the Pilgrims and point
out to your audience that Columbus was motivated

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by two factors in crossing the ocean. He believed the world was round,

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and that he could get to the
he could find a new route to the

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far East to India, to China
to the Spice Islands. They were conducting

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that trade around Africa and over land, and then when the Muslims blocked it

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off, Columbus was inspired, well, okay, if our way east is

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blocked, we can go west.
He had this vision and he was a

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great evangelist. He You know,
what's remarkable about Columbus is that he's like

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a fresh Christian where he was all
excited about spreading the good word of God's

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salvation to people who had never heard
it before. He was motivated to go

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to place where it was where he
was sure they'd never heard the gospel.

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And remember Christianity only was a Mediterranean
religion Northern Africa, Middle East, and

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and and Europe. Christianity had no
extension beyond that. So he knew by

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going anybody he moved he would meet
in going west, it would be good

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news for them. It would be
they never heard it before. And he

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was he had a passion for this. So the lesson of Columbus is that

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we can combine our practical you know, professional lives are our endeavors with also

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God's work. And he was a
remarkable guy because he combined that so well,

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and that it was that combination of
qualities that were seen in King and

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King Ferdinand and Isabella, who were
Spanish. They're the ones who chartered his

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three ships to go and find a
new passages to the East and to Christianize

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because they wanted, you know,
they'd driven the Muslims out of Europe South

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Spain and they were called to expand
Christianity. So people don't know this about

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Columbus. He was a remarkable man, not a personal man, none of

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them, nobody is. Yeah,
but the Pilgrims and the Puritans that followed

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them both it's amazing both of them
spoke about their position being equivalent to the

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Israelites leading Egypt in going to the
Promised Land. They both, both the

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Pilgrims and the Puritans viewed they're going
to the New World in the same way

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that the Israelites were going to the
Promised Land. They viewed coming to America

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as the Promised Land, exactly promist
Land. Well, and you see the

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model of God demonstrated in Uh then
this American idea and how it was so

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similar as you mentioned for the children
of Israel leaving you know, in the

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Exodus leaving Egypt coming to the Promised
Land, and so many similarities there right

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with the hand of God protect them. And here we are just like the

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Israelites fighting the number one military force
of their time, actually God fighting for

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them. Here the United States as
a as a colony, as a group

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of colonists fighting against the number one
military foys force. But for the hand

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of God. Uh. You know, America doesn't happen, right right,

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No, absolutely absolutely, and that
same you know, that same, those

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same patterns actually can be traced through
the history of America. It's incredible actually

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recently reading about Eisenhower, and Eisenhower
had the exact same words almost that Adams

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and Washington had in saying that America, the Constitution and a America was designed

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and would work only for a moral
and religious people, right, you see,

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and they'rein lives are Call's Hill right
now where the country is when you've

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got I mean, Scott, wasn't
that long ago. What in the nineteen

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eighties, ninety percent of America believed
in God. Now we're down to what's

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sixty two percent? I mean,
that is a huge slide. And look

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at the difference between then and now, right right, and the difference is

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God's not there. The difference says, having the Ten Commandments in the hallways

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of academia, in high schools and
elementary schools across the country, Let's take

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the Ten Commandments out of there,
Let's take God out of there. Now,

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look at the hallways of these these
public schools, right, and remember

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that one of the chief motivating,
one of the chief strategies and motivations of

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the of the evil one Satan is
is to take down the good. In

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other words, they they they have
no tolerance for moral people, for Christians.

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They want to bring everyone down to
their level of uncivility and rebellion.

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These are rebellious people, exactly.
Satan rebelled against God's order. We see

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it manifesting itself today in the spiritual
world around America. It's a spirit of

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rebelliousness exactly. It started in the
garden and it continues to this day.

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The only difference that we have versus
then and now is that our father in

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Heaven sent his only son to bring
us back home. Scott's right, that's

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right, and I do believe that
as we as more people who are confused,

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who are despondent, in despair,
demoralized by what's going on, they

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turned to God. In God's numbers
grow, We're going to see a turning

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the likes of which we've never seen
before. And we're seeing the audience.

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You know you are. You are
the salt and the light. Talk to

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your family, talk to your friends. There is a better way for us

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forward to live and live in fulfillment
and happiness. The Declaration of Independence articulates

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that we should pursue happiness. Indeed, God intends us to have joy and

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happiness, but we're not going to
get it by tearing everything down, returning

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to his ways. In that I
would remind everybody there's enormous freedom. You

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know. You know you don't have
freedom when you're driving on the highway to

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you know, to to violate lanes
and drive, you know, drive speedy.

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You know, in sports you can't
violate the rules. You can play

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hard on a football field, but
if you violate the rules, guess what

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your peelies right. And that's the
way life is. That you have freedom

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in this place, but we have
to follow a few rules. And the

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rules are there to protect us,
not to constrain us, not to enslave

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us, but to protect us against
making mistakes that hurt us. Right.

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Well, the thing is is freedoms
for everyone, and you can't extend your

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freedom and violate somebody else's freedom because
it's no longer freedom. Right. That's

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the beauty of this is. This
is why God, God has just given

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us just this awesome gift. And
if you really think about it, is

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it is the ultimate scott that we
have as humanoids on this planet. And

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guess what those evil forces at every
turn are doing everything they can to reject

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us and take it away from us, because it is that mighty force against

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evil, and this is why they're
doing everything they can to cancel God.

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Let's get God out of every institution, out of the Democratic Party. We'll

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take God to the platform. We'll
just go ahead and kill babies. We'll

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drive as a pledge of allegiance too. I might exactly. Yeah, we'll

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dress we'll dress men up as girls. We'll let you know, men go

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and compete with women. You know, this is this is what's going to

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take everything down, pure and simple. They want to take down every institution.

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They want us, you know,
they want they want to destroy us,

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to rubble so that so that they
can take over Basically, we've got

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thirty seconds left. I'm going to
let you summarize and remind everybody how they

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the book is a source of great
hope. You might call it a user's

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manual on how America was so successful
early in it's early in its period,

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and how we can save this country
today. It is a book to help

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us save America and empower us because
when we take reaction, God works.

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Amen, Scott Powell, thank you, my friend, for being with us.

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I appreciate you so much. He's
the author of Rediscovering America. For

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more information and to be a part
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go to Bill Martinez show dot com.

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May God bless you and keep you, and make His face shine upon you,

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and may you have peace, go
and be blessed beyond your imaginations.