Is it time to disarm the IRS?

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for choosing W FORCY Radio. Well, hello America, Bill Martinez. He're

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good to have you with us.
As always in We've got lots to talk

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about. We're gonna talk about the
i RS I. You're gonna talk about

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this government, aren't you Your money's
worth? I mean for all the money

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man here we are. We're looking
at what thirty two trillion dollars in debt?

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What do we get for this?
You know, for this money that

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they come and you know they take, They're not creating anything. The only

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thing they're doing is creating things that
can capture more of our money. Because

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our government is getting way out of
hand and more and more expensive. And

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I don't blame you you're asking the
same questions that we're all asking. You

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know, it's like, you know, like any other investment. But of

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course, you know, our government
doesn't look at it as an investment.

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It is the commandment you shall pay
the government or else. The question is

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is it time to disarm the IRS, especially in light of all the you

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know, debt sailing debate, Joe
Biden's movement to hire eighty five thousand more

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IRS agents, and you know that
it's not going to be you know,

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just for you know, the rich
and famous. There's no way, I

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mean, they're coming after us.
It's the same manner in which the whole

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you know, the whole IRS began
with, right, they started with the

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ninety nine. You know, we're
going to go after the top one percent.

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They've got all the money, so
we're going to go after them.

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And then they found out after a
year that that wasn't the best thing to

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do, that they had more money
in the hills of those ninety nine.

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So forget about the one percent because
they had their attorneys and they were not

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fun to play with. But we'll
go after and torment the ninety nine that

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aren't as equipped. Adam Majivski.
He's the author of Drain the Swamp.

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He is also the founder of Opening
Books. And we always love having Adam

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on with us because he breaks it
down. He's telling us what is happening

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with your money and all that we
send to the government. Adam Magiski,

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welcome to the show. Good to
have you with us. Well, great

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to be on the program, Bill, thanks for having me on. Well,

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here the debate, the dead ceiling
debate, and it really brings into

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question which I think really makes the
politicians and of course those in the government

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a little bit uncomfortable because we start, you know, we go, wow,

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thirty how did we get up to
thirty one point? What six six

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trillion dollars in debt? And what
are we getting for that? So if

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you take just a recent history over
the course of the last twenty two years

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on our national debt, it's Republicans
and Democrats and Republicans and democrats. I

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mean, just think about this,
Bill, and we've discussed this on your

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radio program. Back when George W. Bush, the Republican president, took

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office, our national debt was less
than six trillion dollars. Through Barack Obama,

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Donald Trump, and now Joe Biden, we're pushing thirty two trillion dollars.

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We're up nearly five over five times
on the national debt in just twenty

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two years. Most parties, Republicans
and Democrats, they're addicted to spending our

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taxpayer money. Yeah, and then
look again, at no time are they

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doing anything about bringing it down.
They're continuing to increase the liability, well

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beyond measures that the financial experts warness
and say, you know, what is

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the prudent thing to do in terms
of government spending in relationship to GDP.

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Right, Yeah, And so the
recent fight that we're all aware of is

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on the debt ceiling. And this
is the only way over the course of

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the past ten and fifteen years Republicans
have ever made any headway, it seems

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like, on federal spending. So
the leverage of the debt ceiling has worked

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historically for Republicans that you know,
Joe Biden staked out a position that the

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debt ceiling bill needed to be clean, and it opened the books dot com.

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We made the argument that a quote
unquote clean debt ceiling bill was actually

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dirty because although justice is blind,
Congress isn't. And we pointed out you

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know, there's three keys to understanding
federal spending right now in real time.

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Number one, institutionalized incompetence. Number
two, the ciders have gained and rigged

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the system, and number three the
criminals have gone wild. And we could

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break those three things down. But
what it means is if you had a

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clean debt ceiling bill, that you
would codify all of that dirty spending.

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And so that was the debate that
we just went through. Well, you

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know, let's let's go ahead and
break this down even further, because Adam,

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you're exactly right. I mean,
everything about the deep state and the

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Beltway is about sustainability. What can
they do to keep living, keep getting

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elected, and keep you know,
having control of our money? Right,

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yeah, exactly, So number one
institutionalized incompetence. Next week we're going to

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break a report or last year,
the seventeen largest federal agencies, the top

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eighty five federal programs, admitted to
misspending and improper payments of a quarter trillion

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dollars. It's actually stunning. They
had been too. So like if I

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say it's waste, broad corruption and
abuse, you and your audience can doubt

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me. But when the Feds say
it. It's got to be the truth.

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They've actually admitted they've paid the wrong
person, the wrong amount or payments

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under the wrong set of federal rules, to the tune of two hundred and

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forty three billion dollars last year.
And if you break that down per person

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in the country, it's rather stunning. It's eight hundred and twenty dollars per

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man, woman, and child across
the United States. So a family of

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four, your share of their admitted
improper payments is thirty two hundred dollars and

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bills. That's actually two average mortgage
payments exactly. And I M. I

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don't want to sound cynical, but
we know that everything that comes out of

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the government is a rough estimate.
And first of all, for them to

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come out and even admit that this
is what they've done is quite telling.

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It just again reminds you of kind
of like what happened with Lois Learner,

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Right, Lois Learner and you there
was going to be some bad news out,

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so she planted a question in the
press pool so that she could say,

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when asked about it later on,
oh, that's old news. We've

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already talked about it. And then
and then also the estimate. It's it's

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always an estimate, you know,
it's always being revised. So this is

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at this point what they'll admit to. So this is without an IG report,

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or maybe there's an IG report that's
about ready to come out, and

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this is why they you know,
they came up front and admitted it,

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right, Yeah, And this is
this is by and large outside of the

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rampant criminality within our COVID aid programs. So this is basically just regular,

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you know, everyday federal programs.
And what they admit to was improperly paid.

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Okay, So then you have,
you know, the insiders gaming the

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system. We've come out with some
reports. We've discussed this on your radio

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program in the past. Bill.
One of the reports that we came out

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with about thirty days ago was pretty
interesting. We took a look at the

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hop the wealthiest twenty nonprofit hospital systems
across the country who are making big profits

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and their CEOs are making Wall Street
sized compensation packages. So during COVID these

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twenty largest nonprofit hospital systems actually took
twenty three billion dollars with a b of

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congressional COVID aid bailouts and over a
three year period ahead of the pandemic in

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twenty nineteen through twenty twenty one,
you know, the pandemic, their net

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assets grew by one hundred and twenty
four billion dollars, so they took twenty

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three billion and times five, their
net assets grew. They made so much

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money during the pandemic, their net
net assets at they paid all their bills,

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they took all the COVID aid on
a net net basis, their net

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worth increased by one hundred and twenty
four billion dollars. And some of these,

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like seven of these CEOs of these
hospital groups last year made over ten

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million dollars up to seven million dollars
apiece. So did any of that COVID

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money or you know, that stimulus
that went to them. Do they have

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to pay that back or are they
just it's forgiven down the road, because

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you know the Democrats love to forgive
people of their debts. We've issued the

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clearing call to pay back and two
hospital groups have Mayo Clinic paid back half

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of theirs. I think they should
have paid the whole thing, but they

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paid back, you know, over
one hundred million dollars worth of their COVID

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aid bailout and Kaiser Permanente. They
paid all of nearly all of theirs back.

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They have a subsidiary out in Hawaii. They took eleven million for the

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subsidiary. They didn't pay that back, but they paid I believe it was

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a half million dollars five hundred million
dollars Kaiser permanent and pay back. And

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so that's the example. If Kaiser
can pay back their COVID aid, so

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can the other nineteen and so we're
not letting us go. We are and

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open the books. Dot Com,
you know, joined the tra his parency

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revolution. We are having theat We
want those CEOs brought up in front of

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these Congressional oversight committees having to justify
how when their net worth soared during the

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pandemic, how they can justify holding
on to twenty three billion dollars of US

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taxpayer money. Yeah, exactly,
Well, it behooves our legislative body to

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keep the pressure on them to make
sure the money does come back. As

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if they were successful with a couple, uh, you know a couple of

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these organizations, why why not across
the board? Exactly, So that brings

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us to our third point bill.
The criminals have gone wild, you know,

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over the period of the pandemic.
You know, we've got the largest

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public fraud in the history of the
United States that unfolded during our unemployment insurance,

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you know, starting with the Cares
Act at the peak of the endemic

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in April of twenty twenty, when
up to forty million Americans were hurting,

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they were tossed out of a job, and Congress swooped in with eight hundred

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billion dollars worth of unemployment insurance.
This was designed to help people who add

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real needs, people wants their jobs, and now we know up to half

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of it, four hundred billion dollars, was stolen by criminals, con artists,

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and crime syndicates from around the world. So the criminals have gone wild

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during the COVID era, the insiders
have game the system, and the federal

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bureaucracy is woefully institutionally incompetent. And
what's the president's solution for all of this.

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He's proposed a draconian income pax hike. As a matter of fact,

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he wants to take it beyond your
ink, wants to take it into an

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asset tax on assets you haven't sold
yet. Okay, so after all of

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them, they want more tax revenues
are an all time high. But the

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buying administration they can't spend enough.
They want to spend and even more and

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tax you more and penalize us the
citizen, the taxpayer. Unbelievable, got

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four. And we're talking with Adam
Anjievsky, founder of Open Thebooks dot Com.

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We're talking about our government spending and
are we getting our money's worth?

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Adam, So, look, we're
not getting our money's worth. We're literally

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getting ripped off. Our federal government
is literally ripping off its citizens. And

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I you know, for the three
points that we outline in the first segment

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here, it's not a dispute.
These are the facts. This is what

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government tells us, this is what
we have found, giving oversight and following

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the money at the federal level,
hard facts, no spin. And then

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the abject you know, massive corruption
and fraud and stealing at the federal level

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and the looting of our federal pandemic
aid. Yeah, you know, And

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we come back to that question,
is the government too big? It?

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Is it unmanageable? Are we expecting
unrealistic outcome here? Now we say that,

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now the FEDS would say, well, that's because we don't have enough

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people working for us already, right
any way, that would give them the

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option to bloat the government even more. They'd be all over that, right.

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Well, the head count in the
federal executive agencies, these are the

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one hundred and twenty four federal agencies, the alphabet super federal agencies like the

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IRS, like the Environmental Protection Agency, like the Social Security Administration, NASA,

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Health and Human Services, Veterans Affairs, all of these, there's one

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hundred and twenty four of those agencies
outside of the Pentagon, outside of the

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spy agencies like the CIA and others. But if the headcounts are at a

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modern day high now under Joe Biden, there's over one point four four million

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federal bureaucrats in those agencies, So
they can't make the argument they need more

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people. Look, this is exactly
why this moment in time is exactly why

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our founders, you know, put
it in. They wanted a government that

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was limited, and they rested the
power in this American experiment with the individual,

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with the citizens. They are supposed
to work for us. And that's

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why build transparency is so powerful,
and we believe it revolutionizes United States public

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policy and politics because it properly orders
the system. We get to review their

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spending and hold them accountable for tax
and spend decisions as it should be.

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Adam, I mean, this is
a democratic republic. The three most important

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words in our constitution is we the
people. But we the people cannot check

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out. We have to hold them
accountable. We're spending too much time looking

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at our cell phones or screens and
that sort of thing. I mean,

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look at the average time spent now
in America on these screens. Bureaucracies,

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governments, they love that kind of
diversion because they get to hide, they

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get to hide the pe while we're
focused on these other things. Right exactly.

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But you have to go back to
the constitutional basis of transparency. It's

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in the Appropriations Clause of the United
States Constitution, which is powerful. It's

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Article one, section nine, and
here's the transparency clause. There. It

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says that a regular statement and account
of the receipts and expenditures of all public

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money shall be published from time to
time. Well, look, there's a

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clear interpretation today. It's post every
dime online in real time, open the

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books. And there is a government
war on transparency. For example, the

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office of Vice President. They don't
they reject all Freedom of Information Act requests.

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He doesn't think she's she is bound
by the federal law on the Freedom

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of Information Act, and so she
rejects all requests for her office. So

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what does that mean. We don't
know who works for her office there.

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You know, she's a heartbeat away
from the presidency. We know White House

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payrolls. We don't know the payrolls
of the office of Vice Presidents into contracts

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and spending. We don't know who
she's paying, we don't know what vendors

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she has, we don't know what
contracts she's led. I mean, that's

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that's just one example the war on
transparency at the federal level. It starts

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with the office of Vice president.
Well, the arrogance of the vice president

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not to be held accountable. She
knew when she took this office that there

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was going to be accountability. But
unfortunately, this seems to be the rule

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of law, particularly with one party
other than and you know, than the

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other, and that is they're going
to waylay They're going to run out the

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clock because uh, you know,
they go in four year cycles. Either

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they're going if they get reelected,
hopefully they're in power and that stuff goes

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away and they and they got cover. Otherwise, if they do get reelected

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and you know, they don't have
the two they don't have control of the

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two other legislative bodies, particularly the
House. Uh, then it becomes a

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little bit of a challenge for him, and it becomes kind of a minor

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annoyance because Meanwhile, look at they
got four years, they're going to divert.

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They're going to straight arm us and
avoid answering those questions, and it'll

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get caught up in you know,
in court perhaps you know, on the

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outside, and by then they're out
of office, and guess what they're collecting

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their retirement. Thank you very much. Well, and we ask one question

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question whether it's at the federal level, the state level, or the local

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level. Our auditors that open the
books dot com, we ask one question,

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what government program is running well?
And we've never when we investigate,

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when we follow the money, we've
never found a government program running well.

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I don't care if it's in your
local township, your county, your state,

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all the way to the federal government. And that's why this transparency and

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citizen led revolution on transparency of public
expenditures is so important. We need to

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hold them accountable for their decisions.
And so you know, we're talking about,

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you know, what federal programs running
well? We can't find one.

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And what is the Biden administration solution. It's to text you more, but

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also to arm to staff up,
lawyer up, and arm up the irs

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to squeeze more from you and so
that's the proposal that passed that Biden signed,

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the eighty seven thousand new employees over
at the IRS bill. That's a

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doubling of the IRS workforce. Okay, that's one hundred percent increase. And

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our datat Open the Books dot com
we show a headcount at the IRS currently

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of eighty two thousand coming into this
year this fiscal year. Hiring eighty seven

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thousand would more than double the workforce. And then, of course we have

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shown and broke the national story that
the IRS has purchased thirty five million dollars

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worth of guns, ammunition, and
military style equipment since two thousand and eight,

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and ten million of that was purchased
since the pandemics started. So they

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are not only have they lawyered up, they're arming up, and it's time

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to scale back the federal arsenal.
Even though they double the size of the

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IRS, I'll guarantee you they still
won't be able to answer a phone.

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That's problem over there right now.
You know why they're all working from home

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right exactly. And the other the
other thing that is going to happen here

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with the IRS. You know,
like you said, they're armed up.

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They've got ammunition. They're not going
to be trained properly. This is a

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hot mess. And it's not just
the IRS, but how many other government

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institutions have weapons, you know for
these people that shouldn't even have we but

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you said they're going to what are
they doing with guns? Well, right

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now there are now more federal bureaucrats
with the Rest and Firearm Authority than there

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are United States Marines. So federal
officers with the rest and Firearm authority that's

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more than two hundred thousand, and
there's about one hundred and eighty seven thousand

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US Marines. We show and Open
the Books dot com. Since two thousand

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and six, that one hundred and
three federal agencies have purchased three point seven

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billion dollars. That's with a b
guns, ammunition, and military style equipment.

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So they definitely staffed up and armed
up. Okay, so you break

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that down, that is twenty seven
traditional law enforcement agencies. These are under

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the Department of Justice or the Department
of Homeland Security. These are traditional law

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enforcement agencies at the federal level,
like the US Marshals, like the FBI,

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like the Bureau of Prisons, like
the Secret Service, etc. You

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have seventy six traditional paper pushing civil
administrative agencies seventy six of them, like

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the IRS, like the EPA,
like the Department of Transportation, like the

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Social Security Administration. Is everybody wants
a gun and a badge? I guess,

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huh exactly? Who knew that the
National Institutes of Health founci's old agency

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had a police force of over one
hundred and three officers. We took the

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NIH police force and ranked it against
the nearly twelve thousand, two hundred local

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police departments that exist across the country, and it would on headcount alone,

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it would be larger than ninety five
percent of local police departments across the hunt

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out the government, Adam, I'm
convinced all you got to say is something

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like transparency or accountability, and they
tuck and run. They they don't want

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to deal with this I mean even
with the you know, Senate hearings or

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house hearings of some of these government
officials. It is unbelievable, how embarrassing.

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I don't know how they can you
know, go home and live with

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themselves other than I guess they're so
ideologically fixed that they feel like, okay,

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well, this is the game of
Captain mouse. The bureaucracy plays with

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we the people, I guess,
right while, and it's not surprising,

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you know, government is trying to
self actualize, you know, and become

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a bigger part of our lives.
And this is why there's genius in the

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founding of the country with the limitation
on government so individuals can flourish and make

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no mistake, this is a unique
and rare moment in the last five thousand

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years of human history because we're the
only people Bill and you know this that

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in our founding documents, it recognizes
our inalienable rights. Our rights come from

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God, they don't come from government. We instituted a government to secure our

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rights, and that's why we need
transparency to be able to hold that government

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accountable. Because knowledge is power,
exactly, Adam. This is why I

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believe we have to represent the Declaration
of Independence. The Declaration of Independence was

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our founding father's manifesto to the ruling
power of the time. Right they were

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they were not serving them and right
now the current government is not serving us.

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They're serving themselves. This idea of
being a servant to the people.

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Those are just words. They ring
hollow because you know them by what they

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produce, and what they produce are
things that favor them, like insider trading.

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How does somebody come in and work
for government for one hundred and seventy

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hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year
and they leave, you know, being

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you know, becoming multi gazillionaires.
How do they do that? Yeah,

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exactly, I think we know how
they do that. Yes, right,

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so you know, I think the
best I think maybe I think you might

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be able to find a clear answer. One hundred laptops hundred Biden's laptop two.

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But you know, but there's nothing
to see here, right because again

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that's part of that accountability transparency thing
that scares them. Well, our members

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of Congress with their sharp net worth
increases the Biden family that's coming to lie

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with their insider trading. Look,
these are just all symptoms Over the course

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the last twenty years, the size, scope and hour of government at oil

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levels has grown substantially. And you
know, the best example of this is

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what we're talking about here with the
Internal Revenue Service. So let's take a

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peek inside their gunlocker. Bill.
So, ahead of the pandemic, the

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IRS, the tax Agency owned four
thousand, five hundred weapons. They had

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stockpiled five million rounds of ammunition.
If you break down their gunlocker, what

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you'll find is six hundred and thirty
nine semi automatic shot guns. You've got

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five hundred and thirty nine long barrel
rifles. You've got fifteen submachine guns.

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I mean, who knew that the
IRS needed a submachine gun? Right?

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All right? Now? Since the
pandemic, you know, you've got a

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massive amount of purchases. Two point
five million dollars worth of ammunition, another

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two point five million dollars worth of
ballistics shields, and then other various gear

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for criminal investigative enterprises. That's how
it said. You got a half million

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dollars spent on those shotguns. You
got a half million dollars spent on those

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Smith and Wesson Air fifteen style rifles. You've got a half million dollars nearly

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spent on tactical lighting. They've got
so much gear that each of their twenty

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two hundred special agents they get a
tactical gear bag. They spent three hundred

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and fifty thousand dollars on tactical gear
bags. They owe so much stuff,

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Adam, I'd be curious to find
out when was the last time they were

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trained to use that stuff. You
probably have some of those agents that have

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a tactical gearbag that don't even know
how to open up the zipper because they've

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never been into it. We're all
to me, which is a bad thing

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to do. We should run an
investigation as to, you know, if

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they're following federal law on the training
of their special agents. Because as we

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all know, and it came to
light last fall in September, on the

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job posting of the IRS Special Agent, one of the requirements for the job

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you had to be willing to use
deadly force. Exactly when this trended on

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national Twitter, they immediately stripped it
off the internet, but about a week

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later they put it back on.
I mean, because it's honest. I

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mean, yeah, if you're an
IRS Special Agent, you have to be

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willing to shoot to kill. Yeah, you know that's amazing. I mean,

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here we are, We've got put
eighty thousand SWAT raids across the country

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every year, and I guess that's
not enough. Now we got to throw

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the irs into the mix, which
is reminiscent of the Wild West gang that

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can't shoot straight. I mean again, I'm thinking about training. You know,

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for those of us who are responsible
gun owners, we know the training

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is something that you have to do
ongoing. There was a commitment and based

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on what we're seeing from the IRS, where they don't even show up for

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work, you can't tell me that
the forty percent of the time they're not

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showing up for work, that maybe
they're spending time at the range or doing

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things that really advance their job and
their standing on behalf of the American people

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well, and sometimes you know,
they don't have to do too much.

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They don't have to pull out a
weapon. You remember, just a couple

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of months ago when the journalist Matt
Tiabi went yes Congress and testified, and

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on the same day he's in front
of Congress testifying about what he found in

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the Twitter files. He was one
of the lead journalists on that file.

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When Elon Musk opened up the books
of Twitter to show all of us what

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was really going on at the intersection
of federal government, federal pressure, and

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social media in this country. Well, Tiabi is testifying in front of Congress.

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Meanwhile back home, his home gets
a visit from an IRS special agent,

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and all that is is intimidation.
That's exactly the tax agency to intimidate

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a journalist when he goes in front
of Congress. Well they did that to

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the American people with the Tea Party
patriots, as you'll recall, what were

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they guilty of. They were guilty
of exercising their civic duty, their constitutional

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rights in saying, look at we
want to hold our government accountable. We

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want to know how they're spending the
money. We wanted downsize government. They

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had some ideas and Boiltea. The
Obama administration didn't like it, so they

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ended up kind of given a wink
and a nod to lowest learner and she

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slow walked their tax exemption. Many
to this day did not, and the

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Tea Party still as an organic organization, not to the level that it was

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growing and could have been. And
clearly what they've been able to do you

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talk about suppressing the vote. They
very skillfully were able to suppress the vote,

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and I believe affect the outcome of
at least ten voting cycles well in

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terms of like lowest learner, and
she was the tip of the spear on

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that. You know, they allowed
her to retire on a full federal pension.

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And here's the rub, we still
don't know how much she's receiving,

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uh, you know, guaranteed by
taxpayers, partially funded by taxpayers, her

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federal pension. Because all federal pensions, whether you're lowest learner or any retired

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bureaucrat or a retired member of Congress
or your US senator, those federal payouts

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are not subject to the Federal Freedom
of Information Act, so they're considered private

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information, which that law needs to
be changed. I means, we guarantee

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that pension, we help fund that
pension, we deserve to be able to

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see that pension. Yeah, there
are things that you reported open the books

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here, Adam. Is the new
minimum wage for a federal bureaucrat. I

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mean, we're not talking fifteen dollars
an hour flipping burgers and McDonald's. This

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is a pretty nice gig, as
a minimum wage as a federal employee,

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right, yeah, So it's one
hundred thousand dollars a year there are that's

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that's the average pay of the one
point four four million federal bureaucrats within those

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hundred and twenty four agencies that we
were talking about earlier. So not only

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can't the Biden administration claim they need
more workers because the head counts at a

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modern high, they are highly compensated
with the average cash compensation. This is

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not including the cost of benefits,
which are lucrative. Probably another twenty five

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thirty percent, right, I I
say forty percent now I used to say,

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but I think forty is much more
accurate. It's either thirty five or

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forty percent. You've got to tack
on to the cash compensation of one hundred

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brand So each of those one point
four four million federal bureaucrats, they cost

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tax payers on average about one hundred
and thirty five thousand to one hundred and

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forty thousand dollars per position. Adam, Why is it that the government is

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hiding names and hiding this information from
Like you said, this has to stop.

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What can we the people do to
demand that we get this information?

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Well, there is. I'm glad
you brought this up. There is a

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where wall though of the federal workforce
nowadays. The Buying Administration just redacted the

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names of three hundred and fifty thousand
of those federal employees, so we don't

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know who's receiving those paychecks. We
have to make there's twenty billion dollars,

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well probably now about thirty five billion
dollars hidden in the swamp, with the

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average pay of one hundred thousand dollars
apiece. And furthermore, there's about one

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hundred and eighty thousand locations where they
are supposed to be working that are redacted,

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So we don't know who by name
is receiving the federal paycheck, and

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we don't know where they're working.
This is a real problem. I want

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to put it in context. During
in twenty sixteen, during the last year

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the Obama administration, the Obama administration
redacted two thousand, three hundred names from

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the federal payroll. The Binding Administration
just redacted three hundred and fifty thousand names.

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Unbelievable. We got to go to
break. We'll pick it up from

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hundred eight nine oh seventy eighty eight. Welcome back, Bill Martinez here along

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with Adam ad Antiski, the author
of Open the Books, Drained the Swamp

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Operation Drained the Swamp, and of
course he's the founder and president of Opened

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the Books. And we're talking,
we're talking our money, we're talking transparency,

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00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.559
accountability of our government. Adam,
you're featuring a big story at opened

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00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:01.679
the Books dot com right now regarding
only earnst. And this is amazing for

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00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:07.960
our audience to hear that tracked over
one point three billion dollars. This is

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00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:15.960
US tax dollars sent to China and
Russia. China, I mean, are

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00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.480
these allies suddenly that we don't know
about what's going on here? Yeah,

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00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:24.880
I mean, we shouldn't be borrowing
money from China to paid China. That

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00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.599
doesn't make any sense. Here's why
our report bill is so important because Congress

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tasked the Government Accountability Office, the
GAO, with finding out how much US

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00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.320
taxpayer money flowed into China over the
course of the past five years, since

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00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:45.960
twenty seventeen, and the GAO found
less than fifty million dollars forty eight million

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00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:51.400
dollars. Well, we found ten
times as much because our auditors that opened

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00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.920
the books dot com we know how
to dig. We went through the subgrants

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00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:59.679
and subcontracts, and so we tied
out nearly a half billion dollars into China

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00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.719
and nearly another billion dollars over that
same period into Russia nine hundred million dollars.

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And we've found many troubling instances of
US taxpayers paying for things that are

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00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:17.559
quite frankly silly or raise questions of
national security. Exact, we're in a

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00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:23.280
war right now, a proxy war
at the least with Ukraine and Russia,

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and we're giving them money. This
does not make sense. See, this

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00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.679
is what's so confusing for the American
people. We don't know who to believe

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or what to believe anymore. Adam, I know it is confusing. Look,

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00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.079
we've been lost in space, for
example, with the Russians since two

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00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:45.880
thousand, at least two thousand and
five, when we've subsidized their space program

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to the tune of four point one
billion with a B dollars. Just in

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00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.400
the last five years we've put over
We've put around eight hundred million dollars over

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00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:01.079
three quarters of a billion dollars into
the Russian space program, including their number

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00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:07.719
one rocket vendor. Okay, so
think about this. Money's fungible, especially

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00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:13.079
in a Department of defense. So
if the Russians ever shoot a rocket at

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the United States, their rockets coming
over here, conceivably with technology that we

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the taxpayer helped to subsidize, exactly. Yeah. And then here we are

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with China, and there's this movement
and ongoing conversation about how we need to

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decouple from China, and it seems
like we're just getting deeper and deeper entrenched

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with them. Whether it's the Confucius
Institute at universities. We've got five six

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police stations operating within the United States. All this money and suspicion of what's

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going on between the Biden family and
that the reports that come out whistleblowers being

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00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.800
quieted. You know, this is
a hot mess at them. Well,

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00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:02.800
it's amazing how fast our federal agency's
lose track of US taxpayer dollars that they

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dole out. So, for instance, there's no place on Earth that's received

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more scrutiny over the course of the
last three years than the Wullan Institute of

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Virology. Right Yet, we found, working with the Earns team, our

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auditors found additional projects and additional US
dollars went into Wuan. We found one

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point one million dollars flowed from the
US Foreign Aid Office. This is not

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NIH the National in Health or the
CDC, the Centers for Disease Control.

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This is US AID, a foreign
aid office of the United States government.

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Here was the project that nobody knows
about. It was to identify known and

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unknown viruses in wildlife and see if
they can jump to the human species.

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This is material to the entire conversation
at the Wuhan Lab exactly. Yeah,

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and how does it now? Yeah? And how does this happen without President

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Obama not knowing about it? So
this was a sub sub assistance through Eco

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Health Alliance to the Wuhan Lab.
And since it's a subgrant of a subgrant,

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it's not disclosed by the FEDS.
We only know about it because one

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number of Congress heard about it from
a whistleblower, wrote a letter to us

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AID the Foreign Aid Office, and
they confirmed it in a letter. I

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have a copy of the letter,
but this has not been given any press.

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We found other projects from for instance, Cold Springs, Harbord's a national

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lab through NIH into the Wuhan Institute
of Virology. We still don't know the

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amount and we don't have good details
on the project, so there's still a

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lack of transparency at this Wuhan lab. Well, this is this is amazing.

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Of course, we're grateful, Adam
to you and the team for staying

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on top of this and keeping us
in formed. Remind everybody where they need

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to go to be in the flow
of the no so that they're part of

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the solution and not adding to the
problem here. I like that Bill be

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in the flow of the No,
that's good. Come to Open the Books

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well appreciated of any nature, any size,

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because we need to continue to support
the efforts that Adam and the team

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are doing on behalf of we the
people. And we don't take any government

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money. We're entirely funded by citizens, by people, So thank you Bill

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for pointing that out well. Adam
Angiski, I cannot thank you enough again

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for all the great work what you're
doing on behalf of our country in helping

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us save this country and to hold
our bureaucrats accountable. He is the author

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of Drain the Swamp, Open the
Books founder and President Adam Angiski. Thank

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you, Adam, appreciate the time
you take care of Thank you, Bill,

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God speed my friend. Well that's
going to be a rap for us.

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Thank you for sharing a part of
your day and as I say,

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being a part of the solution to
get this country back on track, to

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save this country our thanks to Adam
Angiski for more information and to be a

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part of the Bill Martinez Show or
this Mighty Martinez Movement and this Martinez movement

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to return to God and to save
our country. Check out Bill Martinez Show

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dot com. May God bless you
and keep you, make His face shine

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upon you, go and be blessed
beyond your imaginings. Thank you. In

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the plot Invaded the Pain of the
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