How Would God Define Affirmative Action? Does Hard Work And Merit Count?

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Radio. Well. In an age
and culture that wants to ignore God,

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it puts us on slippery ground.
History has demonstrated time and time again that

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the beginning of wisdom is the fear
of God. And I know sometimes when

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people first hear the fear of God, they think, oh, am,

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I you know supposed to fear.
Well, it's it's a different type of

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fear than our peny brains can understand, because we're trying to appreciate the infinite

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wisdom of a superior, almighty God. If you can get your brain on

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that a little bit, Okay,
so just stay with me for just a

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little because our next guest, Cameron
Arnett, we're going to be talking about,

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you know, God defining affirmative action. The marketplace has their own idea

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and their opinion about how affirmative action, you know, should work in our

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culture and how it's supposed to benefit. But Almighty God knows exactly what affirmative

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action, true affirmative action is.
You know, does hard work and merit

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count anymore? Well? As I
mentioned, the award winning actor and television

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film and theater who hails from Port
of Prince Haiti is also a film producer,

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director, and a syndicated talk show
producer and co host. He's here

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to talk about his life based on
faith, hard work, and merit.

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We're one on one right now with
Cameron Arnette. Cameron, welcome to the

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show. Good to have you with
us. Well, thank you so much

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for having me. I appreciate it. It's absolute madness out there, isn't

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it. I Mean, everywhere you
turn there's chaos and craziness. But the

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bottom line is that if you turn
on the inside, you should find Jesus

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Christ. If he is your Lord
and saving, that makes everything okay,

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right. He is the solid rock
on which we stand. And this has

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been a recurring theme that has been
cycling back this week, I think maybe

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the whole experience is directing, you
know, and pointing out what we need

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to focus on. You know,
we're told in the Bible that Jesus is

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that chief cornerstone, you know,
to the foundation of everything that God is

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established. And it's amazing more and
more as God is opened my eyes to

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see this, Cameron. I don't
know if it's hits you this way or

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not, but what it seems to
reveal to me is that Jesus as that

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chief cornerstone, that catstone of God's
creation and the infrastructure to produce righteous results.

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That is the also that stumbling stone
that humanity keeps banging its toe against

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and goes out or just says,
hey, look it, I'm just going

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to stay away from it all together
because it hurts when I get close to

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it. Right, that's right.
I mean he is there as the example,

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but he's also the one who enables
us to be like the example that

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he is. If we come to
him knowing that we are unable in ourselves,

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we are weak, we need that
savior, we need that Lord,

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then we end up finding the very
answer that we're afraid of. Like you

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said at the even the beginning,
and we talk about the fear of God

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because we don't understand what that's really
like. We understand it fear from a

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cornal, a fallen man perspective before
we stay away from it. But the

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reality of the situation is is to
reverence, it's to honor us, to

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hold him in awe, to see
and understand that he's God and we're not.

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And when we do that and we
see ourselves in the right perspective in

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our relationship, then He can be
that God to us forth in us and

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through us. And that's what he
intended before the foundation of the world.

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Well, it seems like we're always
in the middle of this paradox. We're

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at the cross roads constantly. And
here what you and I are talking about

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in terms of wisdom, you have
a choice. You can choose wisdom or

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you can choose stupidity, I guess
for lack of right and and so God

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says here, you know, be
wise. And if God is the source

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of wisdom, you would think that
we would want if if wisdom is your

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choice, then you'd want to lean
and gravitate to God, right, correct?

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I mean, we have to understand
that we're dealing with the creative the

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universe and sees the Creator. Then
that means that everything that makes any sense,

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that's ever right, comes from him. It emanates from him. So

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that's why we go to him for
wisdom, because without him we don't really

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even know what's going on. We
have to understand or have to go back

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to God just to be at the
starting point. And so until you do

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that, you don't even understand how
the dots connect, that the dots must

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even connect. And so without God, it's just impossible to make it from

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the perspective of understanding what true wisdom
is and using any bit of knowledge that

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you have in the right way that's
going to end up giving you the right

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end result. God is the source
of everything that is good, right and

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perfect, and so until we go
to him, there's no way that we

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can have any of that. Cameron, it's been quite a journey for you.

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I mean, here you are an
award winning actor and TV film theater.

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We're gonna be talking about this new
TV series from pure Flix. Uh

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that starts yourself and Karen Abercrombie just
a just a super talent and lady that

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you've been privileged to work with Let's
talk a little bit about your background.

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How did you get from Haiti to
Hollywood? Wow? Man, from Haiti

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to Hollywood. How do you like
that? Uh? You know the two

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ages. So you know, I
think from the from from the very beginning,

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you're dealing with the fact that if
if I didn't have parents who had

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a vision, a desire for greater
than I would have not seen a lot

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of day. You know, when
you take a look at the poorest country

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in the Western Hemisphere. Um,
um, So you you're, you're,

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you're, you're dealing with the fact
that, um, there's really not a

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lot of avenues for progress. There's
really not a lot of avenues for making

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things happen. Even right now when
you take a look at what's happening in

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Haiti is to chaos. And so, by the grace of God, um,

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I was birth to parents that had
a broader perspective. And so my

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mother came to America sent for my
father than my father's called them. They

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sent for the children. And so
we find ourselves, you know, and

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uh, and with with the opportunities
that are afforded to us here in America,

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and so in that trek, with
them also being kind of entrepreneur in

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their perspective. You know, we
we began to to learn and to thrive

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and to grow and to uh allow
God to just make a way for us.

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You know. Uh, our beginnings
were voodoo. I was gonna say,

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I was gonna say, that's what
Haiti is known for. And I'm

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glad you brought that up because you
know, from Voodoo to Jesus, I

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mean, are we going to Haitia
Hollywood here? You know, but but

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you know, but go ahead,
no, no, even before you deal

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with the whole Hollywood thing. From
that again, from from Voodoo to to

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Jesus. You know, one of
the things that God showed me even as

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I got saved, that even as
I got really deeper into the things of

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God, was that the thing about
Haitians is that they have an understanding of

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the supernatural. They just have the
wrong God. And so what happens is

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that once you give them the right
God allow them to continue in the belief

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in such a way as to be
able to receive His supernatural presence and to

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emanate out of them supernaturally. I
think what happens in America, we have

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a tendency to be a uh to
to follow or to learn a pretty stoic

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academic, you know, kind of
a god. But the reality is that

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you and you need dimensional God,
right, I mean he is, He

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is the whole spectrum, and he's
the natural, but also he's a super

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upon that natural and without the Holy
Spirit, there are things that God has

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made us in being like him,
let them, let them have dominion.

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And so until we tap in to
that supernatural power of the Holy Spirit,

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then we're limited just to walk as
natural man. And so the understanding of

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Haitians is that they dwell within the
supernatural aspect of life. They just have

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the wrong dads, so they end
up having the wrong supernatural result. Yeah.

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It almost kind of reminds me of
the Apostle Paul as he's going and

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talking to the Jews. They had
an idea, they didn't have the whole

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idea, but but but they were
spiritually in a sense, there was already

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some groundwork done there. And what
I'm hearing you say is the Haitians have

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this spiritual capacity that once the truth
enters in that's undeniable and God opens up

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their heart, they just chew this
up, don't they correct? Correct?

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Once you're connected to the true God, and you don't give up the supernatural

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aspect of belief of the supernatural,
then you have the whole aspect of the

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Kingdom of God man in your life. God didn't want us to live on

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this planet just as natural men,
especially not in this fallen state. And

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so when we receive Christ, there
is the understanding or the infusion of heaven

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by the Holy Spirit that we receive
to now turn this natural, everyday,

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chaotic, fallen world into a picture
of heaven. And you can only do

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that by obeying the one who's supernatural
and watch him confirm his word supernaturally and

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change things. God still wants to
part red seeds today, Yes, is

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that goal. Until we're able to
accept that that we won't see that happening

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in our lives and we'll have to
fend for ourselves when God wants to catch

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us up miraculously, and then for
us to learn then how to live up

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blessed lives. Cameron Arnette is whether
see award winning actor in television, film

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and theater who hails from port of
Prince Haiti. As we said earlier,

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we're moving from you know, Haiti
to Hollywood and getting background of the story

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which is just so fascinating, and
it again opens up our eyes to the

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faithfulness of God. You know,
Cameron, to hear you talk it takes

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me. I love the Book of
Genesis. I think sometimes I don't have

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to be careful because I could just
live there because there's so much about the

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foundation of our lives and what it's
all about. And even starting, you

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know, in the beginning there was
God and you had in between verse one

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and verse two we had darkness and
the void, and and you you hear

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how the Holy Spirit is hovering like
a mother hen with his wings wrapped around

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I mean, if you can imagine
the Holy Spirit, holy, pure,

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innocent, vulnerable, you know,
in a sense, kind of dropping himself

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upon the madness and chaos, just
you know, kind of needing, needing,

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and working his wings into the souls
of darkened humanity until they come to

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reality. And this is the way
I picture it, that this is where

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the lost souls of the world are
right now. They're in that darkness.

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But the God is so faithful that
his Holy Spirit is here needing their souls

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and their heart hearts so that they
can be open to appreciate the truth of

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God. Lest anyone perish right without
a doubt, you know, even in

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the perspective of you saying you know
you you know the book of Genesis and

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wanting to live there. When we
take a look at Jesus coming, we

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have to understand that the whole point
that the Father God is trying to do

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is get us back to Genesis one
and two. Right. Genesis one and

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two was its perfect intent. Right, And so fallen man gets kicked out

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of the garden and he has to
send for himself, and you know,

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the whole aspect of sin and everything
else. But when we received Christ as

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as our Lord and savior from internally, the Kingdom on the inside of us

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is actually trying by the Holy Spirit
to the to the intent that extent that

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we allow him to get us back
to a place within his lordship of Genesis

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one and two. We're supposed to
walk in the cool of the day with

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him. That's why we're supposed to
have that in that relationship, that intimacy

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with him. And as we allow
the Holy Spirit to get us and to

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renew our minds by the written word, then our lives begin to begin become

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that replica or that that that that
follow through of Genesis one and two,

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we were never supposed to fall into
three and four and five, right right,

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So when we when if we understand
that, then we get a picture

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or vision after receiving Christ as to
what he desires our lives to be.

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I have come that you might have
life and have it more abundantly, And

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so he wants a certain thing.
He has days of heaven for us on

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the earth. He wants to have
dominion on the earth in such a way

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as to replicate Heaven, and so
wants to get involved with him that way.

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Then not only do we change on
the inside, not only that do

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our families change, but then we
became come change agents to society. And

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that's why the church have to get
back to understanding its place and its purpose.

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But that's after actually allowing him to
be lord the way that he wants

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to be Amen. You know,
Cameron, Uh, you know, going

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back to one and two of Genesis. Uh, everything was copasetic, and

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was it was it was very very
nice, but for a bad choice,

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right choice, and and and here
it is and that's where that that is

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the history of humanity from that moment
of a bad choice. It's the repetition

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of bad choices that we live with
today we see the results of it,

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and these bad choices are a clear
violation of God's laws, his rules,

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and not for us, not to
punish us, but to reward us so

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that we would have joy eternal.
But we don't. We don't have it,

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and we stubbornly, somehow we get
stuck, you know, associating with

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the devil who light us into this
bad choice to think that somehow we could

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be as God. And look how
that's working out for us. Well,

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you know, the thing about the
lie is that Adam and Woman and I

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and I and I and I say
Woman because she didn't become Eve until the

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fall, and so Adam and Woman
were already like God, and so basically

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he had They had to be duped
into thinking that they weren't so that they

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can try to find a way to
be. And that was a lie.

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And so right now when we see
Prices as our Lord and savior on the

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inside of us, we are just
like him. And so now as we

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make those right choices after him,
then life begins to be drawn into the

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reality of who we are and what
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end up in a religious perspective,
having God, having a lord, having

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a savior, but continue to make
bad choices. And so when you make

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bad choices continue even though you have
Christ as your lord and savior, then

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what happens that you allow Satan to
come into your garden once again and to

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steal from you what was yours.
The issue is that now that you received

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practice your Lord and savior ask you
now learn to obey him. You find

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out that he is faithful, and
that faithfulness puts you back into that place

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not only of intimacy, but fulfillment
in him. You now allow through obedience,

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you allow or disallow rather Satan from
being able to steal hell and destroy

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Caroon help people understand that this is
a process. I mean, you and

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I obviously our mature and our walk
and our understanding of God. And I

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don't want our viewers to be so
overwhelmed here with the truth to you know,

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think that I'm such a mess.
How could God accept me? You

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know, I just ought to give
up and die here. You know.

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That's that's the thing though, It's
because you're a mess that God God accepts

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you. And so it's kind of
like having to reframe you know, God

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is not like man. Man wants
you to be flawless, or wants you

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to be excellent or you he wants
you to so do him good. That

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that's what he accepts you. If
you will do anything that I say,

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no, no, not while we
were yet sinner, as he came and

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died for us. You gotta earn
your You gotta earn your way, Cameron,

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working hard enough, right, And
that's the exact. And that's the

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exact, you know. Opposite is
that it's by the working of the Holy

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Spirit that you allowed to him to
work within you. That and he teaches

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you, he trains you, he
wooves you, He loves you. As

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a matter of fact, the whole
point of grace is the receiving of reward

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that you don't deserve exactly. So
it's not a matter of you deserving anything.

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It's a matter of you understanding he
has given you everything because he loves

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you. Why you didn't deserve.
So now receiving Christ, now you're his

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righteousness. Now in Christ you are
deserving, yes, but now you live

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out your obedience to Him out of
gratitude, not out of having to do

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that in order to get something from
him. Exactly. But it's the it's

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the you know, before Christ,
it was if you did this, you

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got that. Right now blue Christ
is because he did this, you already

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have that. Now you can live
this. Yeah, there's no there's no

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need because then at that point we're
focusing on the kingdom principle that it's you

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know, now we get back to
an intersection right where it's about God and

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his people. So it's not about
stuff, right, it's not about awards

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here on earth that are going to
ride away. It is about those two

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critical issues, your relationship with God
and your relationship with people. Because when

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you come to heaven, God doesn't
want you to come by yourself. He

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wants you leading a parade, doesn't
he. The way I see it,

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yes, populate heaven. I mean, you know, if you win souls,

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your wives, you know, the
whole point of life is you want

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to not only go, you want
to bring as many people as you can

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with you. And so the whole
thing is that God allows you to be

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like himself. This is a love
affair. Right. God has not mad

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at you, he's not angry with
you. He's not trying to beat you

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over over your head with a stick. None of that, of all the

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payment for sin he took upon himself. So he's not trying to make you

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repay again somebody that has already been
paid for, and so you have to

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get that clear out of your mind. As a matter of fact, the

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Bible tells us that we shouldn't even
have a sin consciousness because now that we

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receive practice our Lord and Savior,
we are blameless before him. We are

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as if sin has never been.
We've been justified by his blood, and

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so now you live out it justified
life. You go to him as someone

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as if who you have never sinned
and allowed that relationship to How How how

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did I say? How blessed is
a man that God does not impute sin

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unto? You go to him knowing
that there is no schism, there's no

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vision between the two of you,
and no longer has a place, yes,

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that position that God has placed you, and we've got to go to

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quick break. We're gonna pick it
up on the other side. Stay with

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us. We're with the award winning
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We're with Cameron Arnette. Cameron Uh.

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I want to share this with our
audience so they can see that you're the

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real deal here. You know,
we've got a clip from uh, you

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know, from this new television series
that's airing on pure Flix with you and

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Karen Abercombrey. Maybe you can do
the intro on it. Well, you

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know, this is Eleanor's Bench,
and basically Eleanor played by Karen uh.

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She is someone who has been from
the neighborhood, but now she's gone and

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moved on and become a judge.
And she has a choice to make,

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as we were talking about before,
as to whether she's going to stay on

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that bench or whether she's going to
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that that that she's needed to be. And so this is the clip

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as to where she finds out I
play Reginald, which happened ends up being

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a love interest and so um this
is kind of like a discovery moment that

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happens between them. Okay, great, Actually, what you have here is

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not the ell knowth bench. What
you have here is a people of um

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um my, uh my, uh
my, real my movie reel. Okay,

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so so this is going to is
it going to include Eleanor's bench or

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this is okay? All right,
eleanor bench is very recent. Okay,

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So so uh well, let's go
ahead and view your movie reel so people

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can see that you actually know what
you're talking about. You've done a few

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things, Cameron, I it's you
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Someson. I'm remembering, uh,
you know, the work that you did

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with the Kendrick Brothers and Overcome,
a great movie that was Thank you yeah,

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excellent, But what a what a
breath? And and that I mean

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when your family, you know,
the family you grew up with, when

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they when they see all this Cameron, I mean, do they like pinch

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themselves? And I know, like
when when my mom was alive and she

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saw that I was doing broadcasting.
I mean, you know, I was

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one of nine kids and uh,
kind of the rogue child, and of

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all things, here I am.
I'm I'm ending up in broadcasting, working

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in major market LA radio stations and
that sort of thing. And she swore,

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you know, to the day she
dot go, I know that wasn't

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you you you you you weren't you
weren't smart Brian enough, hotel enough to

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do that. It had to be
God exactly. Well, of course,

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always always has to be God.
That's why I tell people. Some of

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my friends, you know that they'll
say to me, they go, Bill,

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you know I watched this interview you
did it? Goes, where did

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you get that stuff? She go, because we know you you're not that

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smart. I think the one that
you have right now, I think that

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may be Eleanor's bench. Okay,
let's try this woman. Okay, yeah,

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yes, here's a spot woh wow, So this this is the mystery.

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Ain't no mystery? She said,
it ain't nobody's business the moon And

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all the time I thought, one, never mind what I thought. You

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like to make people think that you
live on the dark side. You are

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a fraud as a gangster. Oh
man, you want to see Johnny on

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this board. Boy's incredible and Jamara, he writes in spits of like nobody

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else. Now, I pulled them
boys off the neighborhood gang to help me

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do this. Well that's after they
tried to rob me and they got to

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beat down. So so you I'm
that producer. Wow, I'm got good

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kids. I mean, look all
they needed something more productive, like all

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the other guys that come through here. You know, I end up talking

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to them about their writing and ends
up being something about them. And I'm

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a producer. Oh read, you
are a lot more than their producer.

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So that's my big secret there.
You go. Wow, what what in

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this series? I've had a chance
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several of the episodes and it's so
movie. I mean, it's so well

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written. How did this come to
you? Cameron? You know, um,

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I had done a film prior to
this Literary University UM, working with

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with uh Scottie Curley and mister Charlton
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came about, you know, they
they brought me in and we talked about

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it and you know, read the
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said, it is so well written, it is so well done, and

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so we wanted to jump into it, you know, because the story that's

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being told resonates. I don't care
who you are, but the bottom line

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is that we're able to see what
God can do in the lives of people

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that some people may have thrown to
the side, may have put off to

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the side. But the reality is
that I don't care who you are,

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where you are, what you've done, where what you've been through. God

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Christ is enough and loves you enough
to do something with you if you will

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give yourself to him. And that's
what I love about this story. Well

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written, well done exactly. And
and Karen, who plays Eleanor, who's

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a judge, I mean she had
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life was good for her right right. You know, she came from the

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from the background of the neighborhood.
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we all have as parents who don't
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accomplished all the goals, made all

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the money, got all the prowess, and at a certain point in time,

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uh, you know, but it
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to us. And and she had
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was going to be that for the
money's sake or whether she was going to

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do that for the community and and
and being that answer that her mother was

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and be the continuation of that,
and be that legacy. And so uh,

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it's that that that tug of war
that she goes through. But she

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realizes that Reginald having stayed in the
neighborhood is an answer to the neighborhood,

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but in a different way than she
is. So they're they're really trying to

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do the same thing from two different
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And so um it becomes a great
synergy between them and the process of

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that discovery. It's it's a teaching
moment for all of us in that we're

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not we're not islands under ourselves again, like we talked about in the first

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segment, Cameron, is that it's
about our associations with people. It's not

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about stuff. It's about God and
the people that He brings into our lives

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that are part of the network that
we come together, that complement the infrastructure

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that He's already got in place,
that when we're true to that infrastructure,

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we get the kind of results that
you know, God talked to Kane about

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in that moment. That that to
me that what He said to Kane just

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is so wise and that echoes through
the millennium when he when he told Kane,

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he says, if you do right, will it not go well for

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you? And that warning, that
admonition is for us even to this day,

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this moment at the crossroads that you
may be right, that you may

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be right at right now, And
again it's the choice, are you gonna

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make a choice that supports kingdom principles
that are about those two critical things God

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and people. That's right, that's
right God, you know. And again

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you're dealing with the two great commandments. I love the Lord that God all

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the heart, mind and strength.
And the second one is like unto it,

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love that neighbor as thyself. And
so there is a combination of those

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two things. Once you receive Christ
that you are to be really about your

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life should should be a viewing of
those two aspects in full force as we

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as we do that, Yeah,
it goes well not only with us,

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but it also goes well to those
who will believe and follow and obey the

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same God that we obey. And
we are employed by God as and put

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into his family, employed by him
to bring heaven to earth. And it

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is a really beautiful thing, beautiful
calling, a beautiful relationship, and unfortunately

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sometimes religion makes it something that it's
not. Reality. Is that once you

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really have that relationship with God the
way that he intended, you allow him

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to love you, you allow him
to to to impart to you, you

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find that that this is you know, there's a saying that that that that

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goes if you do what you love, you'll you'll never work a day in

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your life exactly. And if you
if you really fall in love with God

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and allow him to love you,
you'll never know religion. You'll never know

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chaos. You know. Now,
I'm not saying that it's not around you,

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00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.920
but it doesn't emanate from within you
because a change has occurred, and

429
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it's a change of heaven and it's
not a change of a religion, because

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00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.800
now you have a relationship with the
living God, that that that loves you

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so much that he found a way
even though he couldn't look at sin,

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he found a way to crawl into
and too flesh that could have sinned,

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just to save you. Um,
God is man. The love of God

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is beyond anything that we could even
fathom. You know what I'm saying.

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We're only getting a glimpse, and
that glimpse is hard for us to really

436
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.960
understand. But that glimpse, if
you just take the time to stand with

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it will change you and transform you
and show you what God, God is

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really like and what is intent for
you it really is. Yeah, gotta

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go to quick break. We've got
more from Cameron Aren't at the award winning

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us. I'm Bill Martinez, and
we've got Cameron Arnette, the award winning

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actor in TV, film and theater
with us. Cameron. You know,

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we showed the clip from Eleanor Spence, which is just such a terrific series,

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and you know, I do want
to direct our audience so the viewers

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know where they can because they'll probably
want to binge watch this. I mean,

485
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this is so compelling, uh you
know, and this is like one

486
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of those things about these special TV
series that are so good. Yeah,

487
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you know, they can go ahead
and check it out on Pure Flicks right

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now is streaming it. As a
matter of fact, it has come on

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as number one as far as the
television series concerned, So please check us

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out. It's a six six episode
series right now, and so hopefully we'll

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be going into a second season,
well we hope. So wow, it's

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just it's so well written, well
produced, and I believe that the heart

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00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:43.559
of the storyline is so relevant today, isn't it. It is you know,

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when you when you when you're dealing
with what's happening in people's lives.

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You know, we just went through
hold the whole, COVID and everything else,

496
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and so the issues that are happening
are universal. And whether you're dealing

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with the the drugs, whether you're
dealing with the disparity, you know,

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all these things that are happening in
other people. You know, you you

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you, you start to see how
Christ wants to invade that situation and to

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make it right, how he wants
to show us the right decisions to make,

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and how he will come in and
rectify situation. And so I think

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throughout this you start seeing how even
even the judicial system and whatever it pitfalls

503
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may be. But there is a
God of heaven who is the the you

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know, creator and and and and
the head advocate you know, for us,

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And so that whole aspect of it. We start to see within this

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too that that God has an answer
and and and and he wants us to

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tap into him so that he can
actually provide that in whatever situation we may

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00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.719
be going through. It's because of
your background coming from Haiti, uh what

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I hear pretty consistently, Cameron is
that as a nation it is very dark.

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There's a lot of darkness there right, so that here you come to

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Christ and it's like God flipped on
the switch. The light is on.

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And this is what we're talking about, is that with God comes light,

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and with light comes the truth,
and with the truth comes life. You

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00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:25.039
know, the aspect of again the
darkness. I don't care what country you're

515
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from, what your background is,
what your culture is. All of us

516
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were found in whatever situational darkness we
were found in, and in every culture,

517
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in every country there's a specific kind
of darkness. Again, it's like

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00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:46.079
principalities and powers and so whatever that
darkness is, Christ is always the answer

519
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:52.639
for me. Having come out of
Haiti, we're dealing with the Satanic aspect

520
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of spirituality and voodoo and all these
kind of things. It's almost like when

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you take a look at you know, when you read the priptures, the

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mindset that you get is that these
are people that whether they were in religion

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or whether they were actually you know, following God for real, they were

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all of a spiritual mindset. And
so Haiti has a spiritual mindset, even

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though it's in the darkness setting exact
America. And it's almost like we avoid

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of a spiritual mindset. So therefore
we're in the blinded darkness. So Christ

527
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:30.719
still has to be the light that
illuminates and brings the real realization. Whoa,

528
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.000
we were all in darkness, and
so we need to know him and

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we need to follow him to stay
in the light. Yeah. Without Christ,

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Yeah, we're in darkness. Don't
matter where you are in the way,

531
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we don't even know we're groping and
we don't even know it exactly.

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And you know, as you talk
about, you know, a loving God,

533
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and this is so hard for us
to really get our brains around.

534
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But we're fine at human being human
beings. And God still loves us.

535
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He still cares about us, I
mean so much. So I mean the

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idea, you know, like I
I'll talk to guys, I say,

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would you would you send your son
to die for people that were mean and

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evil? Would would you? Would
you do that? Now we don't have

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the capacity to do it, but
God willingly did. His son willingly died,

540
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went to the cross so that we
would have true liberty. And and

541
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like for you and your experience,
you know, from Haiti to Hollywood,

542
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:29.119
and you know, and mine as
well. You get a taste of liberty.

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And once you've had that taste of
liberty and you've been at the banquet

544
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.679
table of God, everything else's inferior. And and and then it's just a

545
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constant, you know, desire to
be back in that flow in and in

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that in that alignment with God's holy
principles. Right, you know, the

547
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.119
Bible, the Bible says to us, you know, taste and see,

548
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yeah, right, that he's good. And so the reality that's a lot

549
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:02.199
of people have not yet tasted.
And unfortunately, sometimes when we go to

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find a taste, we end up
eating at the wrong table, table of

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religion, the table of drugs,
the table of sex, the table of

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00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:15.039
whatever, and so we end up
wrongly eating the wrong food. But when

553
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you get into a place of having
that real relationship with Christ, where he's

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00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:28.280
Lord and Savior, you learn you
end up having it having his heart but

555
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:34.119
also feeling his heart for you,
and there's nothing else like it, And

556
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you can't really even describe. That's
why, you know, we overcome by

557
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:45.280
the word about testimony. You know, you can't take away the testimony of

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00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.280
someone who has actually tasted and seen
that he's good. You talk about a

559
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lot of things, and so we
are hoping and we're praying, we're living

560
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:58.880
a life hopefully, especially on this
thing that we put on the screen and

561
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all these films. What I love
about that as people are able to see

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00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.719
what it's like to live a christ
like life and what God will do if

563
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.360
you'll give yourself to him, and
they see it visually. But we are

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trying our best to get or to
convey the actual love life of God to

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humankind because that's really what He came
to give, is that intimacy of understanding

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how much He is in love with
us. And so if your sin will

567
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:30.480
not keep you from God, yeah, he loves you while you were yet

568
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.119
a sinner, while you were doing
whatever you were doing. And so it's

569
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:39.400
it's just getting getting beyond the mindset
that God is trying to keep himself away

570
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:45.400
from you or keep something from you
because of what you may not yet be.

571
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.199
The reality is that is because you're
not that that he comes to you

572
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.760
because only he can make you that, and he does that by loving you.

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00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.400
It is his goodness that brings into
repentance, not his punishment. But

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00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.719
he's the he's the one that knows
the in from the beginning. He sees

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00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.840
us at our completed fulfillment, doesn't
he. I mean that that's that's how

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00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.800
he looks upon us. Uh,
for those of us who have testified and

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00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:15.679
made Jesus Christ their lord and savior. He sees you as perfect. Yeah,

578
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.079
he sees you as the as the
end results. Yes, exactly.

579
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.760
That is is just so awesome when
you when you think about that. Uh,

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00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:29.079
Karon, we've got about four minutes
left here, and you and your

581
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.639
wife, Uh, boy, you
know what we're talking about. This isn't

582
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:36.800
just I mean, you're living this
out. And and some people might say,

583
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:39.159
oh, camera man, you know
you're Hollywood, You're you got all

584
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these you got this reel of all
these great movies you're in. It's so

585
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.440
it's easy for you to talk about
this stuff, right, but uh,

586
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:52.119
you know, and especially in a
in a culture that wants to, you

587
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:59.760
know, uh promote you know,
victimhood and uh and and after Scotus's recent

588
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:04.840
decision about affirmative action, you know, they want to they want to look

589
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:10.519
at the half empty glass instead of
the half full glass. And so you

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00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:19.159
your experience sits as almost an offense
against people who have that mindset right.

591
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.599
Well, you know, Jesus Christ
himself is the affirmative action of us.

592
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:29.079
All we all needed, we all
needed someone to pay the price for us.

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00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.880
And so when you deal with affirmative
action, I tell people you never

594
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.679
start counting at five. You got
to go back to the beginning. And

595
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.960
so when when we start having discussions, and I know we have very little

596
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.320
time to have it, When we
start having discussions about affirmative action and whether

597
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.519
it's right, well it's wrong,
and how it should be and how you

598
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.119
know, we have to go back
to the very beginning of things and why

599
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.960
we needed them in the first place, why it should be there in the

600
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.519
first place, should it still be
there. There's so much conversation to be

601
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:59.840
had, but sometimes we start wait
at the back end of a situation.

602
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.400
And therefore that's why we can't find
any kind of common ground, is because

603
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:08.559
we start at a point where we're
trying to explain something that we don't have

604
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.239
any pre knowledge of it. That's
like somebody saying to me, like you

605
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.320
said, you know you've done all
these movies and everything else. That's easy

606
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.960
for you to say, Well,
you have to go back to the trek

607
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.440
that when I was in Hollywood,
they wanted me to do partial body nudity,

608
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.320
and when I said no, all
hell broke loose and I lost.

609
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.880
I got to think this from my
home lost. Everything ended up on the

610
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:32.239
street, you know, even coming
here from California to Atlanta. At a

611
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.559
certain point in time, I'm sleeping
on the floor of the church that I'm

612
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leading for. People don't know about
that. But because they don't understand that

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kind of testimony. Now, they
look at where you are now and they

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start and say, well, it's
easy for you to say, but no,

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you don't understand the trek. It's
like before you had Isaac, you

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had all this life and time of
Abraham and Abraham, all right, and

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so you have to deal with all
that, the fact that Abraham would have

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actually been in the land before if
his father had done what he was supposed

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to do. So, because even
there's even for knowledge of that and for

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life of that. He said,
well, this guy went through all this

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stuff before he even got to where
he had the Child of Promise. Exactly.

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You can't thought at the Child of
Promise say well, that's easy for

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you to do now you have Isaac. No, you got to go back

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to the beginning and deal with that. We can be so messed up,

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can't we? And it's a wonder, you know. It's why why the

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Solomon says, God, why do
you even care about me? You know?

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What is? Man? Oh?
My God? Exactly so unbelievable.

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Cameron Arnett, I cannot thank you
enough. If you're such a blessing.

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I so appreciate you. Congratulations on
your career, Congratulations for being such a

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stellar example of what hard work,
what merit, what dedication? And probably

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most of all you would probably say, what faith can do in anybody's life?

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Right? What goodness of God?
You know? Um, we feed

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on his faithfulness. He's a faithful
one and we happen to eat up all

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of how good he is. I
am a recipient of what I did not

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and do not deserve, and out
of the gratitude for him being so good

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to me, I live the life
that I live. Cameron Arnett, many

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blessings to you, sir, Thank
you so much for being with it.

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You bless us so much. Our
thanks to Cameron Arnette for more information to

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be a part of this mighty Martinez
movement to return to God. That's what

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we're talking about and to save our
country, save your families. Check it

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out Bill Martinez Show dot com.
May God bless you and keep you.

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Mak his face shine upon you,
Go and be blessed beyond your imaginations.