How Elections Are Stolen-Here Are 23 Ways

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FOURCY Radio. Well, hello and
welcome. This is Bill Martinez and we

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are live. You know, so
much is still lingering since the twenty twenty

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elections, and this sense of doubt
and lack of faith. Can twenty twenty

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four be a different, you know, a different process where most of America,

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let's say a majority of America would
have a sense of confidence that we

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in fact experienced a free and fair
election. I mean, even to this

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day, three years later than twenty
twenty, you've got sixty one percent of

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the country saying that they doubt the
results of the twenty twenty election. Of

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course, what we're living with right
now exacerbates I guess that perception and that

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opinion. Well, Joe Freed,
who was one of our first guests on

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our TV series, is back with
us. Joe is an accountant, and

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you've gotta love accountants. You got
to love CPAs because their numbers. People.

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They know when one in one doesn't
equal to any longer. They know

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instinctively, they know by experience when
the numbers are being fudged. And you

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love to have people like this can
break down the science, the real science

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of numbers and the validity of numbers. And Joe did that extensively and quite

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effectively in his book Debunked and Auditor
Reviews the twenty twenty Election and the Lessons

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Learned. Well. Since then,
he has now written a new book called

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How Elections Are Stolen And Here are
twenty three Ways Identifying election problems is easy.

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In his last book, as I
mentioned, called debunk Joe Freed identified

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many serious problems multiple times. He
says the difficult part is finding solutions,

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ones that have a chance of succeeding. Even simple solutions can be elusive when

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the wrong people are in charge of
our elections. Unfortunately, some state leaders

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want anything but election integrity. I
know that might be hard for some people

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to understand. I know when I
have conversations about this topic, people are

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still blatantly ignorant, and they choose
to be so because there is information,

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whether it's Joe's book other documentation,
that only raises the suspicion that twenty twenty

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was a compromised event, that it
wasn't free and fair as they said.

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Some state leaders still insists on anything
but election integrity. What they're concerned about

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is the outcome, not the process. In his new book, he describes

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twenty three serious problems that undermine the
integrity of our elections. Possible solutions are

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presented, and some which can be
implemented fairly easily if you have a want

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to Joe Freed, welcome back to
the show. Good to have you with

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us. How are you, sir, I'm fine. Thank you so much

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Bill for having me on your show. I appreciate you well. It's first

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of all, congratulations on debunked.
At every turn after you and I talked,

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it seemed like everybody wanted to interview
you and you know, get the

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facts because the fact of the matter
is is people are still confused and wondering,

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Okay, what happened in twenty twenty, right, that's true. And

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you know, if I can talk
briefly about what you were talking about about

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the lack of information. You and
I talked the other day about this a

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little about this trial I'm associated with, and I'm not going to name names

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because it's still going on, right, but it's instructive and I think your

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audience needs to hear this. For
one of the people who's being accused of

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wrongdoing on January sixth and in Georgia
and so forth, has been trying to

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get me as a witness for his
trial for months and it's been blocked repeatedly.

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And just a couple of weeks ago
I went, I thought before the

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judge to give testimony, and it
was blocked again. The prosecutors of objected.

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I never got to answer a single
question. It was all just objecting

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to me and my qualifications. So
now I have to brag a little because

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I'll show you how absurd that was. My audit qualifications are on paper,

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at least, they're like as good
as you can have because for twenty eight

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years I was authorized by the American
Institute of CPAs to peer review to review

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the quality of work of other CPA
auditors. I did that probably more than

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a thousand times, wow, a
thousand times hundreds of firms. And that's,

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you know, what, the most
important thing you can do, because

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that affects their licensing, whether they
will be allowed to continue as audit firms.

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I also come, Joe, real
quick, how many other CPAs are

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traveling in the at the level that
you're traveling in Having audited as many other

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CPAs as you would, you say, you're probably in the top one percent

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of all CPAs, probably in terms
of the numbers, at the top one

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hundredth of one percent. I mean, I admit I was not doing huge

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corporations. I was with Ernstan Young
for five years where we did work on

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big stuff. But my peer reviews
are what were of primarily smaller CPA firms

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audit firms, but still in terms
of the sheer volume of work and the

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standards I had to review, I
mean, I'm reviewing their quality control standards

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they generally accepted audit. And I
also did it at the governmental level,

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where I was reviewing Office of Management
and Budget standards and General Government Accountability GAO

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standards. In other words, so
all I'm trying to say is it's absurd,

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but they were saying they didn't think
I really knew enough about audits that

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I should challenge that you had the
credibility. YO. One other question before

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you finished the statement, though,
is how often were your reports rejected or

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challenged or negated? Really? Never, I mean there's always the review you

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do can be questioned, and there
were. Sometimes there'll be a technical peer

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reviewer who will say, did you
consider this or did you consider that.

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I've never had one out and out
rejected ever. So that's that. Now

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on the election front, not only
do I have the two books, but

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I've published in the last two years
over twenty five articles with American Thinker,

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with Western Journal and others. So
but they can't find anything. And I'll

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tell you why they won't let me
talk because months ago I was deposed and

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during those hours of deposition they learned
what I was going to say, and

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they do not want This is a
televised trial and they do not want it

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spoken. That's the only reason I
can think of. There's no jury involve

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is just a judge, but they
do not conta to hear. So that's

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all I can say. Sometime have
me back on Bill and i'll when it's

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all over, maybe I can say
a little more about the ins and outs.

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I can't even watch the trial,
by the way, because I'm a

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potential witness, but I've gotten I've
sort of pieced together in my mind what's

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going on from some of the feedback
I've gotten. Well, it's not only

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your experience, but we see what's
going on, you know, with our

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government, FBI interference, social media
interference. This has been a weaponized process

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through every three letter agency of our
government and as I said, social media,

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mainstream media, there is a specific
agenda and narrative that must be spoken

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of. If not, you will
be canceled. Whether we're talking, you

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know, climate change, whether we're
talking the border. You know, the

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idea of freedom of the press seems
to be more and more, Joe Freed

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in the rear view mirror, that
is for sure. And I was thinking

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before I came on your show.
I went back, and by the way,

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if people want to hear the first
show, it's on my sub stack.

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You can still listen to that one. You have it too, I'm

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sure, but yes, And because
I wanted to see what we covered last

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time, so I wouldn't be too
redundant, although I imagined you have new

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people that keep joining your show,
so that may be new for some people.

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Well, if nothing else, Joe, what I expected to do was

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at least have you give a summary
of your first book, which would lead

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us into why the second book,
how Elections are Stolen. So for those

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that you may have missed the first
interview, of course, on Joe's substack

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on our side at Bill Martinez Show
dot com, you can download it and

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watch it at your convenience. It
is just as pertinent today as it was

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then, Right, Joe, that's
correct. Well let me if you want.

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I'll get right into it. Bill, Yes, absolutely, go ahead.

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Okay, in Pennsylvania, I'm going
to go through as many states as

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I can. These are the swing
states, the critical states. And in

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Pennsylvania we talked about Jesse Morgan,
the truck driver who and I'm going to

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get back into that because that's a
very interesting story. Yes, first,

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I want to talk about something that
I failed to talk about the first time.

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And do you know something, It's
maybe the single most important election issue

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from twenty twenty. So I hope
your audience really focuses on this because this

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is really critical is this one incident
I'm about to explain to you really meant

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that the Pennsylvania election was not certifiable. Not certifiable. Here's what it is,

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the voter deficit. And what is
a voter deficit? When you have

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more ballots than you have voters,
that's a voter deficit. And here's what

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happened. On December twenty eighth of
twenty this is almost two months after the

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election, some of the legislators from
Pennsylvania, that would be Frank Ryan and

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Russ Diamond wrote put out a press
release and it was on behalf of themselves

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in thirteen or fourteen other legislators.
So this was like the combined view of

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fifteen or sixteen Pennsylvania legislatures. They
were very concerned because in nine days they

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were going to have January sixth and
the certification of the national election. And

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they said, what's going on.
We certified. Pennsylvania certified this election very

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early. Three weeks after the election. All right, the elections Nomber third

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on November twenty fourth, that's just
three weeks later, Pennsylvania certified that Joe

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Biden won. And they said,
now here it is now, it's December

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twenty eighth. So it's a month
and four days later and they're putting out

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a press release saying, we are
deeply concerned because it's come to our attention

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that there's hundreds of thousands more ballots
than voters. And they had an exact

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number, two hundred, two thousand
and three seventy seven, two hundred,

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two thousand and three seventy seven.
I don't know. They didn't say their

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source. I think I know the
source, but apparently they didn't want to

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say it. So anyway, if
you think that was beloney, the next

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day, in a backhanded way,
the Secretary of State's office confirmed it.

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They sent out that on the twenty
ninth. A day later, they sent

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out this very nasty response accusing them
of being spreading misinformation election conspiracies, of

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not of being ignorant and not knowing
anything about the way it works. And

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then they put in this statement they
said, we don't know where you got

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your information, mister Ryan and mister
Diamond, but we do know that some

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of our large counties have not yet
put their voter information into the registration system,

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and well, how could they certify
the vote? Then? Good question,

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and then they added bill they added
this, they said, The important

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thing is that we got the votes
in. That's what counts. We can

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do the we can add and match
the voters to the registration system later.

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Now this is already two months after
the election. They still haven't been able

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to match them. Unbelievable. It
is unbelievable. Let me explain something digress

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for a second here for your viewers. We're talking really the mail in votes.

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That's really what we're talking because the
people who walk in in person usually

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are pretty honest, right, and
they have ID yeah. Well, and

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usually that one person is attached to
a ballot, right right, it's easy.

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It's hard to commit fraud in person. Right. But oh, what

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was I going to say? I
was going to say I lost my trade

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of thought. Oh yeah, here's
it. I'm glad I remembered the here's

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the process, how it's supposed to
work. And the mail in ballot.

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They send in the mail in ballot, it's in an envelope. It's sealed

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up on the outer part of the
envelope. In Pennsylvania at least, this

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is how it works. They scan
a barcode and that puts it into the

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registration system. Now, why is
that important? Well, one, you

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got to make sure the guys are
the legitimate registered voter in Pennsylvania, not

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in California or somewhere. But also
that's the only way you know that he

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doesn't vote multiple times, because once
you put him in, he can't vote

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again because you'll see it, right, Okay. But and then once you

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do that, you open up the
envelope and you take out this ballot,

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which is totally anonymous. Nobody ever
in any state ever puts their name directly

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on the vote, so you don't
know that way, if it's a vote

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for Joe Biden or a vote for
Donald Trump, you won't know that so

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and so voted for Donald Trump or
Biden. That's always anonymous. So the

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envelope that contained the ballot is separated
from the ballot that's set aside. The

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ballot's taken differently, so it's no
longer identified with a with a voter.

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But I thought the barcode. Does
the barcode carry on to the ballot itself?

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No? No, and so Bill, what would happen is this if

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you were to do it the way
they're doing it, which is to vote

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first and then a week later or
a month later, scan that what if

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it doesn't scan in you know,
it's like at the supermarket you buy a

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package of hot dogs and they can't
scan it for some whatever reason. Well,

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in this case, if it doesn't
scan, it might be an illegitimate

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voter. But you can't go back
and retrieve the ballot. You don't know

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whose ballot that was. It's not
associated with that envelope anymore. Once it's

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taken away, there's no connection anymore, no way to connect it. So

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well, why can't you just pull
the ballot out of the count because you

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don't know which ballot it is.
You see, they don't match. If

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they did that, it wouldn't be
anonymous. If you're if you had a

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ballot envelope with your name on it, and they could later say, oh,

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we see Bill Martinez voted for Joe
Biden or for Donald Trump, because

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we can match that. You see. They don't want any possibility that your

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vote can be identified, so they
deliberately keep it totally anonymous. There's no

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way to trace the ballot ever into
the to the identification on the envelope.

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So this is what I think happened. I'll tell you to it. This

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is my theory. Now I'm just
talking. What I said so far is

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factual. I'll tell you what before
I give you my theory, I better

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take the next step after reading those
two things. Verity Vote a very fine

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analytical firm in Pennsylvania, amazingly good
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stumbled down one of their reports and
it was amazing. They reported that they

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had been tracking the voters in Pennsylvania
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October to February of the next year, week by week. And this is

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how it works. They have a
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subcategory all the voters that are registered
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So with that registration system, you
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week, let's say the last week
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far in each of the sixty seven
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far in this election. Then in
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see, well, now how many
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county by county. They did that
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that the final counties that put their
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Alleghany and maybe a couple others.
That wasn't until almost February. And you

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know what, Bill, at that
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twenty one thousand deficit voter deficit.
Now you can say, well, how

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do I know vote verity vote is
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I verified it. I actually asked
Heather Honey. Not only did I grill

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her on all aspects, I asked
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voter export file, which is a
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It's a big file. You have
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it on some sort of work paper
like Excel. You have to sort the

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columns. But when you do all
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got. And I did that,
and I tested sixty more than sixty percent

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of what was it. It was
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counties and all those numbers. It
was clean as can be. Her work

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was solid. I should say their
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She's got associates that work with her
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I have no reason to think there's
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on, it's amazing, Joe,
real quick. Just as if I might

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interject, is that when somebody has
integrity and they're honest, they give you

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this information. Anybody else if you
ask for this information, they go pounds.

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But go go get a FOI your
request, or go get a court

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order. There's no way I'm going
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I'll tell you their work papers are
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to shame. I mean, it
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no mistakes that I could see.
And I can now let me give you

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my theory that everything I said so
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okay. That and another we can
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not have certified when they did on
November twenty fourth, the state that when

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Frank Ryan and Russ Diamond wrote them
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were out of balance, and that
even when they finished, they were out

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of balance. They did not have
they could not cover those ballots with voters

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they didn't have that did not have
enough. That's effect. Now, let

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me and these numbers, Joe,
these numbers they knew, they knew of

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this discrepancy. But yet on January
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and certified these numbers. Right,
That's exactly right. And that's why.

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Obviously this testimony is important to people. But if they're blocking this testimony,

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they won't let Verity vote testify in
the particular trial I'm involved in, they

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won't let me testify. I wonder
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And then what are they going to
say when you know, when an

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auditor who who's per reviewed a thousand
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this is real. This is not
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How did it happen? Maybe maybe
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to begin with. I think this
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If you recall Donald Trump was up
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They knew they had just three short
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Pennsylvania, and they were probably in
a panic. They were thinking, oh

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my god, what's going to happen
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still up to say, fifty thousand
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very easy, so they they couldn't
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for whatever reason, they weren't working. It might have been their computer

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didn't have enough computer power. It
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mismatches that it was slowing them down. You know, there's a mismatch,

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it'sopped working. What's going on,
it's freezing the system. But whatever happened,

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they may have started off with legitimate
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they became very dishonest. They were
covering it up. Can you imagine the

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hutspot to go through your certification and
not tell your legislators. Hey, guess

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what, we have a problem here. We're going to certify the election,

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but we don't know for sure that
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know that they did this. That's
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They must have been See again,
like you and I talked about before,

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see, I think there's a chairman
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collusion, we don't know who it
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don't know that we've been able to
discern who was in charge, who orchestrated

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this whole program, because to get
what was it seven states to shut down

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all about at the same time,
ye you know, for an extended period

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of time so that they could reset
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And then by the time they reset
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down on its head, on its
face, it's extremely suspicious. But you

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know, like Denish Desuza said,
you know, he told me Joe when

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he went to jail and he met
with you know, his fellow convicts,

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the every day mantra was the con
never gives up the cony. You know,

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the convict never gives up the con
And this is what's going on here.

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We have not been able to penetrate
the cabal and the whole mechanism of

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voter fraud in twenty twenty. We
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We can see all the smoke and
look the facts and the numbers and

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say they don't add up. But
whether it's the Supreme Court or judges or

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state houses, nobody is willing to
take this up because of the power of

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the administrative state. Let's say,
let's leave it that the deep state has

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such a stranglehold on these state houses
and they're scared to death to come back

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and say, hey, there was
definitely a problem. There was fraud,

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and until somebody takes it seriously enough
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I mean, this is blatant cheating. This isn't an accident. They

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did this on purpose because they were
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but others. And when they're you
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and you've got I don't know,
maybe there could have been you know,

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a thousand people involved, maybe one
hundred, but they were all on the

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same team, and they all had
the same objective, and the objective was

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to make sure that the Oh Biden
won and Donald Trump lost. That was

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the objective, right, that's right. I don't know who's behind it.

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I will say one thing though,
that's interesting. Bill. I started to

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talk about this at the beginning of
the show, about how they didn't want

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me to be testifying in public right
these trials that are coming up in the

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January sixth trial, the Fanny Willis's
thing in Georgia, I think scare them.

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They're scared that they don't want to
hear this information. And so I

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wonder what they're going to do about
that, because you know they're going to

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obviously try to object to everybody.
Of course, I wasn't, by the

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way, the only one they were
blocking. They blocked it. Like from

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what I got gathered, I may
be wrong, but it sounds like thirteen

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people were blocked on this trial.
So they just don't want anybody talking about

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election fraud. Well, of course
you're blocked. The media is blocked.

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Partial is with the media, it's
partial acceptance because they're part and parcel and

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joined at the hip with this cabal
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blindfolded, you know, kept in
the dark over it. And this is

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why you can't have a conversation with
a fellow citizen who has now been you

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know, indoctrinated at such a degree
that they can't even accept any kind of

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question whatsoever. And you can ask
them in the nicest way, in the

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least offensive way, of how did
you come to that conclusion, and boy,

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I'll tell you, the IYRE gets
wound up really quick. And then

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you know they're attacking us for asking
a reasonable question, you know. And

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when I get that kind of response, I just figure, you know what,

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you're not interested in the truth.
And so let's just stop here and

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move on and we'll talk about the
sunshine and unicorns. Well, I say

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thank God for shows like yours,
Bill, because thank you for putting this

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on. I know it takes some
courage, because you will get pushed back.

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Just for him. We've gotten pushedback
three ways a Sunday. We've been

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canceled. There are some I mean, this is the thing. I mean

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with the TV show, we have
to be careful because YouTube, you know,

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if they don't agree and they say
it violates their you know, community

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guidelines or whatever, and what are
we violating? All we're all we're trying

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to do is elevate the intellect of
the listener. You know, we want

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to bless you with some information.
We're not coming down from the mountain on

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high with our hair glow saying we
just talked to God and this is what

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he told us. Now, this
is the evidence that has been procured.

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Now it's up to you own your
own knowledge. Don't take our word from

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it. But but I also say, don't take the word of eight second

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sound bites in some of these,
you know, media talking heads that want

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to tell you one thing, but
there's nothing, there's nothing to back it

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up. There's there's no evidence other
than them just telling you, well,

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Joe, you know you got to
believe this because we say so. Right,

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that's right. And Bill, I
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even proclaiming ever that Trump won necessary. We're just saying, look, there

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should be there should have been a
resolution of some of these. That's what

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I'm saying. Anyway, that there
should have been. You can't have people

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wandering around going I mean, you
know, you had Stacy Abrams for you

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know, I think she's still insisting
that she should be governor of Georgia,

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and she lost by eighty thousand.
Was so outrageous. People just they didn't

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give it any credibility whatsoever. But
I think that if Stacy Abrams had the

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backing that Joe Biden had, and
that had Jeff Kemp had been governor,

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Kemp had been maligned as badly as
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you know, she could have some
she could have some standing and some boorts

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behind her. But everything that led
up to the twenty twenty election, with

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ninety five percent of the media reporting
negatively about Donald Trump, Donald Trump didn't

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have a leg to stand on.
I mean, I mean he had lots

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of legs. I mean, you
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what ten million more votes than he
did in twenty sixteen. Everywhere you go,

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you see Trump pen signs. I
traveled through what twelve states the month

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before the election, and Joe I
only saw three signs for Biden Harris three

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signs in all of twelve states.
As I was traveling where, you know,

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comparatively, Donald Trump, we're seeing, you know, signs and posters,

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and you know, his rallies.
You had thousands of people attending his

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rallies and Joe Biden was lucky to
get a dozen people, right, But

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we're supposed to believe on its face, on its face, that Joe Biden

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was able to get eighty two million
votes. Well, it seems excuse me

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for questioning. Yeah, you know, the common sense, you know,

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just matrix here and what we're looking
at the you know, the specific benchmarks

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right, absolutely. And by the
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about twenty miles east of Cleveland.
Now Cleveland's a very Democrat city, right,

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But I'll tell you I'm in Lake
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that you did. It's mostly Trump
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very little enthusiasm, it seemed for
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I think it's less more now,
a lot less, right, right,

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So yeah, saying hey, don't
don't look at me. It was

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my neighbor, right of course.
And I'm surprised, frankly, if I

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were trying to put a sign up
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didn't because for one thing, I
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doesn't even support Donald Trump, okay, But for another thing, I'd be

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fearful of having my house trashed or
something, because there's a lot of patriot

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out there. Exactly, well,
a lot of people were, Joe.

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I mean, they didn't put bumper
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their cars were keyed. I mean, you know that this is just absurd

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that But you know, I'll tell
you what, if you keep in mind

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where that's coming from. It's not
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You know, the alleged quote unquote
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wasn't them that was doing the damage. Was the people on the left.

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Yeah. Absolutely, And well that's
the situation we're in. Well, listen,

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Bill, do you want me to
get into another Pennsylvania issue or let's

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go ahead because we've got we can
do that for maybe another five minutes and

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then and then we'll go ahead and
talk about how elections are stolen. We're

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talking with Joe fred he's the author
of the book How Elections Are Stolen,

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and he's going to talk about twenty
three ways. Of course, we'll have

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to do it with some rapidity because
we have only about twenty or so minutes

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left. He's also the author of
the book Debunked and Auditor reviews the twenty

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twenty election and the Lessons Learned.
If you're serious about understanding what happened,

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I mean it's up to you.
Sixty one percent of the country is walking

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in a haze wondering what the heck
happened. We suspect that there was some

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shenanigans taking place. This book Debunked, it may keep you up for a

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couple of nights, but it will
settle you because then you'll realize the truth

407
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something that our government has not been
interested in. You know, we spent

408
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.960
time impeaching the president, but how
much time did we spend, Joe,

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00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.839
Even to this day, have we
spent any time any of our taxpayer money?

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00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:30.279
Has any of that gone to investigate
the twenty twenty elections on a federal

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00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:35.720
level, I know, not on
a federal level, some on the state

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00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.200
level. They were, in fact
member in Wisconsin, they had a special

413
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:45.920
council Mike Gableman. Right now,
Look, I have a reason for saying

414
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:52.720
this. Mike Gableman was a former
Chief Justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

415
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Pretty high position. Would you say, well, yeah, I would think

416
00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.720
so, And then I think they
are term limited there when he left,

417
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:07.119
they appointed him special counsel to investigate
and audit the twenty twenty election, which

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he did for months. He reached
the conclusion that it shouldn't have been certified

419
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.880
in Wisconsin. Well, in the
trial I was referring to where I said

420
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:22.239
that they blocked me because they said
I wasn't expert enough. They blocked him

421
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.960
too, They said he wasn't expert
enough. I mean, who more expert

422
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:34.000
to the Chief Justice, who actually
was the special council investigating it. The

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00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:39.320
judge actually reprimanded him and said,
and I got this from from here,

424
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:43.360
you might say, after the fact, because I can't listen to the trial.

425
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.199
It told him that he had not
allowed to give an opinion on this

426
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.719
case because he's not an expert.
So this is what we're up against.

427
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:58.639
They're shutting down everybody, and even
in the courtrooms are shutting It's amazing.

428
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.639
Joe here, you have some of
this background and credibility. He's not allowed

429
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:07.079
to say something. But yet every
night on television there's talking heads that all

430
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.480
they know about is spouting off the
news. But yet they're they're they have

431
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.320
acceptable credibility. Yeah, that's the
way it is. Well, all right,

432
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.280
I digress it. Let me.
I gotta hurry up. Now we

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00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.480
talked about I'll just wrap up Pennsylvania
with Jesse Morgan again. Okay, for

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00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.719
the people that didn't hear it the
first time, Jesse Morgan truck driver drove

435
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.920
not just a little truck but one
of those big eighteen wheelers. I think

436
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.079
it was an eighteen wheeling right,
He had a regular route. The route

437
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.480
was from Long Island, New York, all the way to the capital of

438
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.760
Pennsylvania, that's Harrisburg, down to
Lancaster and back. That was his normal

439
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.960
route right now. One day he's
going it's October twenty first, right before

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00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:52.360
the election, and they're loading up
his trailer as they usually do. They

441
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.280
put the Lancaster mail in the front, and then they put behind it the

442
00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:00.360
Harrisburg mail, which was He said
ninety five percent of the load was Burg.

443
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.400
And the guy says, that's loading
it. He said, boy,

444
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:07.159
somebody wants to vote. You've got
ballots here. So he looks in these

445
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.440
he says, twenty four big gay
lords. A gaylord is like a four

446
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:14.760
by four by four cube. And
in the gay lords they have stacks of

447
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:20.719
trays and each tray can hold a
row of envelopes, many rows of envelopes.

448
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.840
Okay, so visualize this is stacked
with envelopes. He looks at him

449
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.760
and they're all for the election center
in Pennsylvania, and they have some of

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00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.320
them have handwritten return addresses. He
says, I know they were filled out

451
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.719
because the return addresses were all different. Right, So anyway, he gets

452
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:43.079
everything's normal. He gets to Harrisburg
and they won't let him unload, and

453
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:47.360
he's waiting for hours, six hours. Normally what they would happen is he

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00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:51.679
get in there, they take the
Harrisburg mail off. He keep going and

455
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.559
then go to Lancaster where they take
the Lancaster mail. Right, so,

456
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:59.119
after six hours he's steamed up.
He goes into the building. He asks

457
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.119
the expeder what's going on. She
said, you'll have to talk to the

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00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:06.280
postal supervisor. He goes to the
postal supervisor, who he said was very

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00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.599
rude to him and had said,
just take your load to Lancaster. And

460
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.559
he said, what are you talking
about. I'm here in Harrisburg. I've

461
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:17.519
got almost all my males Harrisburg.
I don't care take it to Lancaster.

462
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:21.760
So he said, well, all
right, well give me my paperwork,

463
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:23.320
because you always get paperwork, you
know, it tells you what you're taking

464
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:29.360
to wear. No, I'm not
giving you any So then he says,

465
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.559
well, I've been sitting for six
hours. I want my I want something

466
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.719
to show that so that I get
late paid. Yes, no, I'm

467
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.320
not giving you that. So he
takes it. He drives off to Lancaster.

468
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.920
He had no choice, really parks. It's late in the day.

469
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:49.559
He parks the he decouples the trailer
from the the truck, parks the trailer

470
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.719
in the normal spot. He parks
it in. Next morning he gets back,

471
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.280
it's gone. And that was a
big story. A lot of people

472
00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.239
missed it because if you were watching
ABC News or something, you never would

473
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.559
have heard the story. But if
you were watching the Free Press, which

474
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.159
might be like the Bill Martina Show, you would we would have heard about

475
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.360
this story. It was a big
story, and that's all we knew.

476
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.679
For the longest time. I kept
trying to get freedom of information information.

477
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:22.519
I got Blooney answers. One time
it was it could subject law enforcement to

478
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.480
harassment because it's the criminal matter.
The next time it was trademark and privacy

479
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.840
rights. It was nothing that It
was totally blow Joe. Where he parked

480
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:37.719
the truck and the cat and that
was it in a secured area? I

481
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.400
think, yeah, it was.
It was within the post office area.

482
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:45.360
It was in the post office in
its almost spot. I don't know if

483
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.639
the truck itself was because he then
drove off and parked the truck somewhere else.

484
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.119
But anyway, here's what I stumbled
on and I actually put out they

485
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.039
can find it on my substack,
and they can find it on an American

486
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:01.079
thinker. A few months ago,
not that long ago, I stumbled on

487
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:05.599
this closing memorandum and I said,
what the heck? How did I was

488
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:09.000
I missing this? It's dated way
back in February of twenty two. I've

489
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:14.559
been writing freedom of information requests and
getting no information, and they put a

490
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.599
closing memorandum out. Well, the
closing I know why they kept it a

491
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.559
secret. They didn't want to post
it. They didn't want anybody to see

492
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.760
it because it's full of boloney.
Here's what it says, if we got

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00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:32.320
time. They first of all,
they acknowledge everything that Jesse Morgan said about

494
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:36.880
his root. He did it.
Yes, it's true. There was Harrisburg

495
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.039
mail. It did go down to
Lancaster. They said. The next day

496
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:44.760
they had somebody else, without his
knowledge, take the Harrisburg mail off and

497
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.039
drive it back up. They claim
they drove it back up to Harrisburg.

498
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.000
I'm not sure I buy that,
by the way, because the closing memorandum

499
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:57.599
also said there was a printer in
the Rochester, New York area that printed

500
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.679
six hundred and fifty thousand ballots for
Pennsylvania, two hundred thousand to go to

501
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.760
Chester County, which is very close
to Lancaster, and four hundred and fifty

502
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:10.320
thousand to go to Philadelphia County.
Here's the kicker bill. Just listen to

503
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.400
this. The printers claims. This
is now a year and a half after

504
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:22.400
the incident, and now over fourteen
months after the investigation. The printer said

505
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:28.800
in the final closing memorandum it didn't
know if it drove those ballots in its

506
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.679
trucks or took them to the post
office to be mailed. And the post

507
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:37.159
office apparently didn't know either because they
left it open and apparently they had nobody

508
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.639
in Philadelphia County or in Chester County
they could tell. I know words.

509
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.400
There's four parties. Any one of
those four could have said this is how

510
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.119
they came or this is how they
were shipped. They left it open up

511
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.400
in the air, and they had
some line at the end that said for

512
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:58.159
the printer. The lawyer for the
printer said he would check into it and

513
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.880
let them know. This isn't their
is the final word. They're gonna let

514
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.760
him. He's gonna let the the
Inspector General of the post Office. Know

515
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.639
when he finds out a year and
a half half, can you say chain

516
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.519
of custody? Well, it's worse
than that, because Bill, there is

517
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.440
no such thing. I don't have. You don't have to be an auditor

518
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.760
as I am to know that any
big contract has to figure out who's in

519
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.639
charge of the freight. It's not
just a matter of the cost. It's

520
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:35.000
a matter of the liability. If
that truck crashes in between who who loses

521
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.400
the ballots? Is it the printer
that loses Who's responsible once the truck leaves

522
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:44.440
the printer? Is it the printer
or is it the other people? The

523
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.960
people getting it? That has to
be Everything has to be in the contract.

524
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:52.239
There's no way that wasn't in the
contract. This is all Bologne.

525
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.079
And if you order something from Amazon, you have to know if you're gonna

526
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.320
pay the shipping or if they're going
to pay the shipping. All this has

527
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:06.119
to be known. And it tells
me some of those ballots might have been

528
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.880
in Jesse Morgan's truck after all,
And they didn't want to say that.

529
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:15.519
Did anybody get a chance to take
a look at those ballots? Because if

530
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.719
they were printed there in Buffalo.
This was one of the accusations is that

531
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:28.119
these ballots were suspicious and look like
they had likely been printed with a dot,

532
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:34.880
a consistent dot on Joe Biden's name, but yet no other dots were

533
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:40.280
administered or were placed on any other
candidates down line, down ballot. I

534
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.719
doubt anybody. I don't think any
investigation took place, or if it did,

535
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.440
they didn't want to report what they
found because I don't know. This

536
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.280
has only come to my attention about
four months ago. I am not aware

537
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:59.039
of anybody doing anything about it.
It's inconceivable that they don't know how those

538
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.880
got shipped, and so I am
very suspicious. I think remember I said

539
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.840
they took them, and they claimed
they went back from Harrisburg. They took

540
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.159
him off of the truck in Harrisburg
without telling Jesse, and we shipped them

541
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.360
back to Harrisburg. No, maybe
they shipped them twenty minutes to the east

542
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.920
to Chester County two hundred thousand they
were looking for. He thought he had

543
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.760
about two hundred thousand. Maybe that's
where they went. And do you know

544
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:27.400
what the mainstream media said at the
time. I remember two or three fact

545
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.760
checks. They said, oh,
this is not possible. In fact,

546
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.320
Fox News reported this way too.
I can't remember his name, but he

547
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:42.639
said, this is impossible because in
Pennsylvania they have this registration system where every

548
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:47.360
ballot is checked immediately, that they
scanned in the barcode. Well, as

549
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.239
I just told you of twenty minutes
ago, they didn't do that. They

550
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:58.400
have no idea. And so they
were claiming that Jesse Morgan's story was debunked

551
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.000
by a facts that didn't exists,
that they by this claim that their system

552
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.760
was so tight that they double checked, and they triple checked, and they

553
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.159
knew absolutely that when you voted,
there was a voter for every ballot,

554
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:14.719
a baillot for every voter. It
was just like that. It was not

555
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:16.360
true. Well, it goes back
to what I've always said, in the

556
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:23.280
absence of fact, opinion rules,
and unfortunately, too many opinions replaced facts

557
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:28.000
that were needed. And this is
why you've got so many American majority of

558
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:35.639
the country still believes that the twenty
twenty election was ill legitimate and that you

559
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:39.559
know, President Biden is an illegitimate
president. But they don't care because they

560
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:45.000
got what they want and that's all
that matters. That's the problem with power

561
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.400
and control. It will step on
truth, it will ignore integrity, It

562
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.840
ignores the consent of the government,
it ignores all things that have to do

563
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:58.039
with the Constitution. Well, Joe, fraid I can tell you you've got

564
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.519
to come back, because we've only
got about five minutes left, and I

565
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.719
don't know that we can even begin
to do justice to your new book how

566
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:09.159
elections are stolen the twenty three ways. But I'm going to let you just

567
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:14.960
give us a real quick summary and
kind of tease the audience because you know

568
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.480
you will definitely come back as we
continue this conversation. And I knew there

569
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:24.320
were going to be updates since we
talked what several months back, that there

570
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:29.079
would be more information, and you
didn't disappoint me or our audience, so

571
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.280
we we thank you for coming,
you know, loaded loaded for bear.

572
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:37.480
I just wish we had more time
to unravel more. Well, thank you,

573
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.119
Bill. Thank God there's people like
you that are put letting me big

574
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.039
mouse like me talk. I appreciate
it. Well, all right, real

575
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:50.360
quick, here's some of the things
in my new book that it's not a

576
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.480
huge book. It's small compared to
debunked. It's only about forty five percent

577
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.760
is big, maybe in terms of
words, but it's organized in a different

578
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.639
way. This is more like an
action book. Is saying, here's a

579
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:07.159
checklist of problems and a checklist of
possible solutions. Some of those solutions are

580
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:14.519
tough, some are easy. First
of all, harvesting is a big problem.

581
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:21.079
Still. Fortunately you've got this group. Jay Valentine is running this group

582
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:28.320
called Omega for America, Omega the
number four America, and they are using

583
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:35.920
He's a high tech guy who's using
his something called fractal programming. He claims

584
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.679
it is like a thousand times faster
than an ordinary program. Is very fast.

585
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:49.199
They're going in and they're matching registration
lists to things like real estate lists

586
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.320
and other sources that are very solid, so they can match a voter in

587
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:57.039
an address. And they're finding all
sorts of problems. I mean, he

588
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.639
says, with one stroke of the
key, they'll find like a thousand people

589
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.559
at the same post office box,
or a thousand people registered at the same

590
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.079
parking lot. Then what they're doing, and they're doing this ahead of the

591
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:14.639
election. They're going to the Secretary
of State or Board of Elections whatever it

592
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:19.440
varies by state. And he's saying
here's you've got a problem, and you

593
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.960
better fix it because if you don't
fix it, then they're going to be

594
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:28.320
blowback after the election. So these
guys, these guys are a political,

595
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.800
Yeah, they are. They're a
political they're chech people, right. And

596
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.159
if you can get Jay Valentine on
your show, by the way, he's

597
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.039
a wonderful guy. He's a very
busy guy. But Jay Valentine, by

598
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:44.480
the way, his articles, he's
he's all over the American Thinker. He

599
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.039
has written a one hundred things on
that and it'll give you a flavor for

600
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:53.760
what he's like. He's a very
entertaining, very good guy to him to

601
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:57.320
talk to him. Very knowledgeable.
I mean, he's got knowledge. I

602
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.599
know I can only dream up.
Okay, So he's a great that's one

603
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:06.960
thing. Here's another thing, now, ballot harvesting. You know, True

604
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.079
of the Vote was trying their best
to and I think there's a lot of

605
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:15.679
credibility to True the Vote. By
the way, that was an attack that

606
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:22.800
was unfounded. Nobody bothered. I
looked at multiple at least six seven eight

607
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:28.400
fact checks, and not one of
them even described the methodology used by True

608
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.880
of the Vote. That's Jack that's
Greg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrick. That was

609
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the foundation for the movie two Thousand
Mules and there if they bothered, If

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they bothered, to listen to the
man. He's right on it on his

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website explaining the process they used,
which was not one, not two,

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but three separate sources combined with error
reduction processing in the post production stage.

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So they had a very But instead
what they would do is they called the

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local professor of something and they say, how accurate is GPS? And they

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say, oh, let me look
at my car manual and I'll tell you.

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I mean it was not one of
them bothered. How do you fact

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check somebody and don't even describe the
methodology use, just so you know how

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significant that is. Here's another thing
they'd ever put in. They didn't want

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to mention that the most authoritative website
you can have for this sort of cell

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phone stuff is a website called GPS
dot gov. It's the official one for

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the federal government. And right on
that, if you look at accuracy,

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they have a couple of pages on
accuracy. GPS. By the way,

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there's three elements and cell phones,
there's GPS, there's Wi Fi, and

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then there's a cell phone triangularization.
But the most accurate is is the GPS.

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Yes, they said that the GPS
was typically accurate to sixteen feet,

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not as accurate if there's trees and
stuff around. But but and this is

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the thing, Bill, if you
added a second single, the sixteen feet

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dropped to centimeters centimeters, there's two
and a half of those in an inch.

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And if it's a stationary object that
you're monitoring for a few days,

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like a drop box for example,
right millimeters. I can't even show that

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with my fingers, so's they didn't
want to bring that up that how much

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finer multiple signaling can be? I
don't know. Well, Joe, we've

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got to leave it there. Like
I said, so much more to talk

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about. Look forward to having you
back and we'll get deeper into your book

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how elections are stolen. Here's twenty
three ways. Joe Freed has been our

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guest. The author of Debunked is
well an auditor reviews the twenty twenty elections

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and the lessons learned. Joe is
a CPA, and he brings his brilliance

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to this discussion as it continues,
because it should, because that's what happens,

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Joe, when a lie has been
perpetrated, it just snags at us

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until the truth finally comes out.
Right, That's right, and I think

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in the long run, the truth
will come out. Amen to that,

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I'm telling Joe Free. Thank you
so much for being with us. Thank

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you, Bell, Thank you so
much. All right, God speed for

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more information and to be a part
of this mighty movement to return to God

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and to save our country. Check
it out Bill Martinez Show dot com.

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May God bless you and keep you, and make his face shine upon you.

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May He be gracious unto you and
give you his peace. Thank you

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so much for being with us.
Have a great day. Take care.