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W FORCY Radio. Well, welcome
to the Bil Martinez Show. Great to

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have you with us, sharing a
part of your day. You know,

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nine to eleven will always be one
of those days etched in our memories of

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the side sound, smells and heartbreak
lingers twenty two years later, right,

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there'll be memories marking the day along
with never again sentiments. How should America

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be responding over two decades later?
Well? Eric Karen, the former US

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diplomat and special agent and author of
the book Switched On, is with us

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to talk about what he witnessed as
he was in Washington, DC on nine

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to eleven. He shares what we
know now versus what we knew then Eric

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Karen, welcome to the show.
Good to have you with us. An

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honor to be on with you on
this somber day that, in my opinion,

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did not have to happen. Well, Eric, you were there in

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DC and you had shared with me
that even prior to nine to eleven,

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there was a lot of chatter going
on. There was something in the wind

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that was leading people to be,
uh, you know, to have their

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guard up right. Oh, absolutely, you know, it's I think we

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need to look back back first,
and well, some had been a lot

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and uh, we had a chance
to take him out in Sudan and we

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did not. He left Sudan,
went to Afghana stand and build his terror

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organization. And then we had,
of course the attacks on our embassies in

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Kenya and in Tanzania as well.
Two hundred Americans died. And then what

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we had the USS cold attack exactly
and we still did nothing and and and

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that's the problem is that these bad
guys will continue to kill and destroy whoever

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gets in their way. And prior
to nine to eleven, Bill, I

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was in DC and I was a
program manager, terrorism program manager, so

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I saw some of the threat chatter. If you will before nine to eleven,

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and I have to tell you that
the attitude for the most part in

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the US government was, Hey,
we're the big dogs, big dog,

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nobody will come to American hurt us. And we had this, we had

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this arrogance about us. And then
of course we had inter agency fighting going

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on as far as intelligent and sharing. And so when nine eleven happened,

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I was off that day, walked
into a Barnes and Noble with my two

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sons, and I heard the chatter
like, did you hear what happened?

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A plane hit the trade center?
Wow? And as soon as I heard

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it, I believe it or not, Bill, I blocked it out and

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I was with my six year old
son, and I went in the back

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of the Barnes and Noble. I
sat down with him and I read and

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I knew exactly what had happened,
and I knew my life would change from

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that moment on. And once I
left that Barnes and Nobles, you know,

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I was getting I'll be ready to
getting ready to go to work.

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And so nine to eleven Bill was
a preventable attack, but our elected officials

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were more concerned with globalization, if
you will, then keeping US safe right

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now, when you say they were
more interested in globalization, certainly we've been

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moving to is you know, globalistic
adherents and governance, kind of a one

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world government. We've been moving in
that direction for quite a while. Is

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that what you're talking about? Yeah, Bill, Yeah, absolutely so.

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So you know for the several decades
you know, we've been moving to globalization

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and where they are now and that
you know, globalization in some respects,

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right, it can be good,
but we need the adults in their room

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to keep keep the lid on things. What do I mean by that?

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Bad guys terrorists will exploit as they
did on nine to eleven for tis trade,

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travel, telecommunication for their benefits.
Right, So the criminal groups,

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terror groups will exploit shipping containers they
were exploit getting on an airplane. They

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will exploit the Internet for their criminal
enterprises. So our government turned the blind

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eye to security as it is today, and that's what's happening today. We've

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turned the blind eye to all the
threats that's coming to America. I e.

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Our southern border, are you know, ie the shipping containers that come

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in into America. Over fifty million
shipping containers that come into the US yearly,

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and so ports of entry this three
hundred and twenty eight Ports of Entry

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Bill. They all have to be
secure because bad guys go where it's soft,

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and we're very soft right now.
Just look at the Middle East,

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you look at Africa, it's on
fire. Well, you know, Eric,

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you know, as we're talking right
now, there's a report of what

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thirty two wars or conflicts happening around
the world right now, and it's just

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a matter of time before you know. Of course, certainly with our you

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talk about being so off, our
southern border is the epitome of softness right

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now, right it is absolutely I
mean there's any any any guests in it.

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How many millions of people have come
in, you know, you get

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ten million, twenty million, fifty
million, nobody really knows, but we

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do know what We know that some
of those millions are criminals. We know

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some of those are terrorists or associated
terrorists coming to harm us. There's over

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a thousand Joint Terrorism Task Force cases
going on today, Bill, across this

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country. They're bad guys here.
I've seen the bad guys. I've seen

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them, I've sat across the table
from them. I've seen images of the

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people as we all have people dying
at the hands of terrorists. And you

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met Africa right now, there's twenty
one shadow wars going on with the US

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government Special Forces Afrikaan in Africa,
what Niger fell, Chad my etcetera,

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etcetera, etcetera. These countries are
falling and they're being overtaken by extremists and

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people. I think, Bill,
I don't think we've learned our lesson,

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and I'm to say that we continue
to think what happens in Africa or the

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Middle East won't affect us, right, Yeah, it doesn't stay there.

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I think we've learned the hard way. But it is part of the problem.

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Uh, you know, I see
it, you know, being Vietnam

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era vet Okay, I didn't go, I didn't serve in Vietnam. I

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serve state side. But it seemed
like the psychology of waging war was a

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time when you had a lot of
civilian activity instead of military activity controlling the

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outcome of the war. There has
that kind of carried through. Is that

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still at a higher level than it
should be even today? And that's what

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compromises some of our thinking. Yeah, of course, of course, our

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you know, our elected officials need
to understand the number Their number one job

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is to keep our butts safe.
Yeah, you can't have trade and and

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and and economy, you know,
like trade with the our partners and flying

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all over the world and et cetera, et cetera. You can't have prosperity

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without security, exactly. And so
but our politicians have got it wrong.

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And that's we've seen the results.
They're they're afraid, they're timid. Some

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of the Benghazi attackers are alive,
and well, they're in Tripoli right now.

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Seen info. They're in Tripoli.
They're being heart they're being given a

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safe haven by the trip by the
Lebanese government exactly and Libya government. I'm

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sorry they are. And one just
flew to Afghanistan in the last few days,

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a one of the attackers from Benghazi
got on a plane and landed in

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Afghanistan. So Afghanistan, you know, we have the Taliban, as we

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know, have all this our sophisticated
equipment. Right now, we have Iranians

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declaring war against Israel. In the
US, we just haven't declared war against

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them because we have politicians who who
are attended. And the same thing with

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the Mexican cartels yes, exactly.
The Mexican cartels run run the Mexican government.

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The Mexican government there in control of
our southern border purposes, right,

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yes, sir, And you know, i'd say shut it down. And

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but unfortunately, Corporate America is partly
to blame because we've outsourced all our products

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into Mexico. The Fords, the
Gees, the pharmaceuticals, they're they're being

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manufactured in Mexico, and some of
those plants are run by the cartels those

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cities, and the government is run
by the hotel And so until we get

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serious, until we take the gloves
off, we're going to continue to have

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death and destruction here in America.
Yeah, Unfortunately, to relive another nine

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eleven is just beyond our imagination.
And I think that we're still you talk

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about being in shock and awe.
I think we're still in shock and awe

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from it. Even though we have
a new generation uh that has since been

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born that wasn't around during nine to
eleven. They hear some of the horror

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stories, but and and maybe they
relate to to the you know, the

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broken hearts around you know, family
and still the you know, whenever we

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talk about nine to eleven, the
horror that's on the faces of their relatives,

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but they still don't know. It's
kind of like when we were growing

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up and our parents were trying well, you know, they not that they

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really tried to tell us much about
World War Two, but we knew things

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about World War Two, but we
we knew it was like one of those

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uh, one of those subjects that
you know, they spoke about silently or

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was quite you know, it was
quiet. It wasn't necessarily an open conversation,

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but we know that it was hallow
in a sense, wasn't it.

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It sure was. But unfortunately,
we have a White House, a Democrat

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party who's talking to Shaik Mohammad,
responsible for the nine to eleven attacks along

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with some of bin lad and right
they're talking about sparing him the death penalty.

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So that's an example of what I'm
talking about. We are weak as

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a nation and the bad guys,
criminals, international criminals, and terrors know

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it. They know that Joe Biden
is weak and our government is weak right

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now, and it's should it should
scare everyone that we have a commander in

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chief that has a problem stringing three
four sentences together, right, or even

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exercising any kind of leadership. I
mean, when you think about two thousand

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and one, what happened here in
terms of the vulnerability of America at that

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point in time. I mean,
they had already did a test run in

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New York, as you know,
Eric and Bill Clinton did little as you

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as you cited earlier, there were
time and times again when we should have

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responded and we didn't, and they
saw us as being soft and they hit

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us at a time was that we
were most vulnerable, and we're so vulnerable

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on so many areas. Even our
military had been downgraded during that period of

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time, and it's almost shades and
memories of where we are today. Yeah,

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you're absolutely correct. Our police departments
across America are a week no one

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can no one. Police departments across
America cannot fill the vacancies fast enough.

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Right. And in the same thing
at the federal level, how are they

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going to Eric? I mean,
you've got local communities with this defund police

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effort, and they malign the police. The police go ahead and they take

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you know, those that could afford
to do it took early retirement and decided,

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heck, who needs to be around
this kind of environment? That you're

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going to lose your pension. Everything
that you've invested is going to be flushed

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down the toilet. And you know, and now these cities are going whoa

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wait a minute, you know,
let's let's no, we didn't mean defund.

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We want to refund police. Let's
get them. We're gonna, you

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know, put new funding in there
and look like what you think you're gonna

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be able to go to like a
Costco warehouse and go to Aisle thirteen and

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find twenty five year veteran police officers
ready to come back forget it. Yeah,

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and that's the same thing at the
federal level, CBP, Secret Service,

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FBI and most of those agents,
most of the federal enforcement agencies are

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having a difficult time filling the void
because nobody wants to put on that badge

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and gun and be crucified from making
an honest mistake. I mean, we're

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not robots, right, and you
know, we want to make sure that

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we're willing to die for you someone
we don't even know. But please support

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us, Please give us the benefit
of the doubt, and we when we

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do something wrong, of course,
hold people accountable, but don't crucify us.

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Don't crucify every good police officer,
law enforcement officer in America because now

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we have this almost an anarchy across
America right now exactly. Yeah, yeah,

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crime is through the roof, and
you know, and here it is.

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We've got this, uh, this
culture in our country that this respects

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law enforcement and uh. And then
as if that's not bad enough, let's

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bring all these illegal immigrants into the
country. They're flooding the system and uh.

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And then in these blue states,
in these cities that they don't want

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to, you know, keep people
in jail. There's no bail reform that

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allows them to get back on the
street right away. And then look what's

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happening. It's it's like a one
two three punch, yea. And and

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you know they're not hiding it.
This is not like a sucker punch.

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These people are you know, the
Democratic Party. They're coming at us and

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they're telling us what they're doing.
They're just they're telling us, we're gonna,

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you know, get in your schools
and educate your children the way we

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want to educate you now, and
we're gonna take over your nation, and

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we're gonna open the borders. And
because you know, the white Americans if

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you will, and I've been told
this by game bangers. Hey, you

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know what, We're taking your city
over, We're taking your country over.

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You know why, because we have
we don't just have one of two kids

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like most Americans, we have four
or five, seven kids. We're going

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to take over your town. And
the Muslim extremists do the same thing in

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the Middle East. They're doing the
same thing. They're harvesting babies actually for

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that purpose. And so if we
don't have good people, if we don't

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support good men and women of law
enforcement, they will take off the uniform.

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And I'm telling you, and we've
already seen it, police departments,

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local, state, and federal will
lower the standards and they will be forced

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to hire not very good officers and
in some cases maybe even associated BLM members.

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I'm waiting for the day that some
liberal mayor has a press conference and

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is proud that the first their first
police academy is filled with representatives of BLM.

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I'm waiting for it. Well,
look look at the craziness they're doing

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with Elon Musk. They got on
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in a space program that has a
highly sensitive material and information. Eric,

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I mean, this is how crazy
this has become, right, It absolutely

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is. You know, you're just
reminded me and I led it a.

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I led a mass undercover operation in
Massachusetts two thousand and seven eight where myself

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and members of the team we arrested
three hundred and sixty one illegal aliens at

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a US defense contractor. Wow.
In my book, I call it the

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wicked good investigation. But guess what
it turned out to be a wicked bad

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case because our politicians, Governor Deval
Patrick sending to Kennedy at the time,

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John Kerry, et cetera, et
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immigration NGEO groups. They demonized me. They demonized me, and I was

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interviewed by congressional investigators and we had
Homeland Security inspected, General investigations hearings because

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because we didn't execute properly and we
ripped babies away from mothers. And I'm

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thinking to myself, isn't this a
good thing? We just potentially have we

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not learned that the harvists are only
limited by their imagination bill, we have

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a defense contractor hiring illegal aliens that
could sabotage these goods, right, So

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anybody's interested, you can, you
can google it. It's US versus Michael

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Bianco and in New Bedford, Massachusetts, and you'll see the front page articles.

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And it was in Fox News and
CNN and yep, I was the

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one in trouble. Go figure.
We're talking with the air Care and Firmer

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decorated special agent who was in Washington, DC on nine to eleven. Eric,

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whatever happened to that tractor? Well, yeah, he played guilty.

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Uh he did. He did plead
guilty, did a year in the can

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as we say. Uh, some
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They were criminals. Some of them
were criminal illegal aliens. There was a

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document vendor across the street producing kind
of the forged documents for the owner just

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to keep on file in case he
was ever asked. But everybody knew.

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The mayor at the time knew what
the hell was going on, but everybody

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turned a blind eye to it.
And you know, the economy in many

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of our inner cities are hurting.
These were good jobs. Instead of giving

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them to good Americans, they were
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I'm but everybody, actually, and
not even many people on the Republican Party

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during that those years came to my
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This is amazing. I mean,
you know, and as you were talking

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about before, you know, we've
got the movement of the uniparty and anymore

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people are confused. You can't really
count on an R meaning an R anymore.

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I mean the D. You know, what a D means is pretty

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well obvious. What they do time
and again, and they're backing you know,

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Joe Biden's administration that's killing our economy, killing fossil fuels, you know,

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and rendering us dependent on Americans.
Yeah, look at the fetanel bill.

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Exactly, over a hundred thousand people
die a year. We're talking over

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a million people have died in America
since nineteen ninety nine, well over a

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million people. When are we going
to declare war against the cartel? Exactly?

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Well, how about China? China
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right, yeah, China. Absolutely, the Chinese are funneling containers well full

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of precursor chemicals to Mexico. You
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I mean, Iran is the same
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from China for for Heroin as well. I mean, I know firsthand I

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was involved in operation. We intercepted
fourteen tons when I lived and worked in

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Dubai, Bill and we intercepted fourteen
tons of a precursor Heroin agent going to

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Iran. Eric, Uh, how
does how does America withstand all this?

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I mean, it's like we're losing
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mean, Joe Biden is a G
twenty here and just a couple of days

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ago and he's talking about, you
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When is China ever played fair with
America? Now? You know,

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it's it's it's really, it's tragic
what's happening right now. It's China,

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Afghanistan, Russia, Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, most of Africa. It's

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all on fire. And so you
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with with with liberals that we didn't
elect, who are making the decisions for

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him because he's not able to let's
face it, you know, mister president

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signed here, Mister President signed that
he's not able to really understand the magnitude,

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you know, and ask the intelligent
questions maybe one or two or three

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questions about a topic, and so
who's really making the decisions. In my

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mind, we have unelected officials in
the White House executing policies that they should

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not be executing. But because this
president is not able to that should be

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you know, that should scare every
every American. And I think at the

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end of the day, Bill,
if I have time for this, I

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think we as a nation need to
get switched on. Yes, not to

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plug, not to plug the title
of my book, But we've lost our

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way. We lost our way as
families, as a community, as a

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nation because we're not living the core
principles that you were taught and I were

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taught that my dad, my Marine
Corps father taught me, and the three

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core principles of living a switched on
life. So vital education. It's a

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ticket to life's party. Without it, you're not getting in period. We're

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not able to think critically now.
So education strengthen the body. The body,

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sleep, eat, and exercise.
We know the importance of sleeping,

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eating and exercising every day. There's
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all kinds of degrees after the name
about sleep and how sleep is vital and

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eating properly, so sleep, eating, exercise. And then the third is

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the soul. Fee the soul through
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believe believe, believe in something God
stakes because you know, when your father

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and mother, brother dies, or
your cat gets hit by a car,

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you better have faith to understand the
circle of life and understand that we're all

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connected in this earth. And but
I think we've lost We've lost religion of

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any sort of faith, no doubt. And so without those three things,

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and they all three three things,
those three things mind, body, and

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soul have to be fed every day
or you're off balance. And I can

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tell you Bill, if I wasn't
switched on, I would be dead today.

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Wow. Well, you're exactly right, Eric. I mean, we

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on our show we've been talking about
returning the first Prince, and that's what

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you're talking about, these first principles
that you and I grew up with,

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that you honor your father with even
to this day as you pass on his

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wisdom, you know, to the
next generation. And I do the same

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as well. And you know for
me, uh, you know, the

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uh, the idea of the moral
backbone of this country has been so compromised.

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Our Founding Fathers. You know,
John Adams himself said that our Constitution

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was designed for only a moral people, a moral and righteous people. And

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so if you take morality out,
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if you take that out of play, well, you know, the

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Constitution implodes on itself. And this
is what we're experiencing today and why we're

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in such a chaotic position and going, you know, helter skelter, is

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because we've abandoned those founding principles and
uh and we and we don't know,

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we know we're on the wrong track. But I find it quite interesting.

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Eric. It's like when you ask
people, you go, how do you

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get back on the right track?
Well, you know, they look to

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the government, they're looking to other
things instead of realizing that they are a

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key component of the answer of getting
this country back on track, aren't they

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absolutely? Bill? You know,
it starts as correct as individuals, and

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we as adults need to educate our
children and prepare our children for the future.

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You know, just look at our
kids, and you know the mental

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illness and the amounts of suicide that's
happening across America. We've got the amount

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of school violence every day across America, the school violence. Why because kids

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aren't switched on. They're adults.
Their mom and dads aren't switched on.

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Mom and dad's not switched on,
and that they go home, they work.

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The kid comes home from school,
he goes in his room and closes

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the door for eight hours. Mom
and dad's not paying attention. They're not

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switched on the fact that the kid's
been in his room for eight hours watching

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porn or maybe building a God forbid
a weapon to hurt some buddy. We're

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not switched on as as families anymore. And that's that's part of it.

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Bill, That's really I think it's
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These core principles are so basic.
I listen, I don't have a

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PhD after my name, but based
on my research, my life as an

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agent and diplomat living around the world, I looked at it really simply just

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those three core principles, the mind, body, and soul, and the

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importance of feeding them every day because
life is hard and if you don't feed

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them, then you know you're off
balance. I say, it's a coat

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of armor. It's a coat of
armor that protects is not just in our

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physical world on the street to identify, avoid, and escape threats, but

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in our emotional world as well,
we need to be able to say,

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you know what, my loved one, my son, my wife, my

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use been is he's been. I've
noticed he's been drinking too much. And

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if I'm switched on, I'm going
to see a change in behavior, you

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know what. And I'm not gonna
wait, I'm gonna I'm switched on,

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and I'm gonna have a conversation with
him tonight and tell him, you know

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what, John, You've been drinking
too much. But if I'm not switched

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on and I'm distracted with all the
other pleasures of life, and you know,

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I'm not strong mentally, physically,
emotionally I'm distracted, then John's gonna

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end up, you know, as
an alcoholic, and your marriage is ruined

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exactly, and your kids are impacted
as well. You know, Eric,

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I would dare say that had we
been switched on h COVID that we experienced

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for two and a half years would
have been a different story, right yeah,

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man, Absolutely, As a nation, well get exactly strengthening the mind

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through education. If we were informed
and we've done our own independent church and

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we didn't listen to the bureaucrats in
Washington. We would have followed the science

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independently because you know, we we
can think, we're critical thinkers exactly.

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We would have seen that some of
what is being said didn't make sense.

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And and and it's amazing today how
how they you know, refute that and

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they realize that, you know,
without even apologizing and saying, hey,

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look at we may have gotten wrong, we may got ahead of our skis

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on over our skis on this.
We apologize. No, they you know,

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still hold to some sort of righteous
value of some sort. But meanwhile,

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uh, you know, we're not
all the better, and we could

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have I think what's happening, you
know, to your point, Eric,

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because people are making individual decisions and
though corporately we may not be smarter,

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individually, we're a lot smarter because
we're realizing that we live in a free

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country and that we can make an
individual decis for the safety of ourselves and

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our families. Right. Absolutely,
if we're switched on, we can do

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that. Yes, And we don't
want, we don't need the government to

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to do that for us. And
and and one thing that George Washington said,

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Bill and I have the quote right
here in front of me. I

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want to make sure I get it
right. Guard against the impostors of pretended

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patriotism. Guard against the impostors of
pretended patriotism, because yes, you're right.

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What during COVID, we had government
officials standing up saying, we know

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what's best for you. You can't
go to church, you can't attend funerals,

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you can't have family get togethers at
Christmas, because we know what's best,

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right, because we're we're we're with
the government. We're here to help

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you. And I think George Washington
was was warning us, what's about what's

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happening in America today? Of course
Ronald Reagan echoed that sentiment as well decades

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later. Right, Uh, you
know the scariest words you hear from the

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govern I'm here from the government,
here to help. Right. No,

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that's okay. We we've we've we've
got that covered. We're talking with Eric

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Karen, the former decorated special agent
who was in Washington, d C.

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On nine to eleven. If we
can, let's revisit uh here at this

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point, uh, you know,
nine to eleven, so you uh,

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when we were talking about it,
you're at a Barnes and Noble. You're

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with your son, and all of
a sudden, all this chatter, things

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that you you thought could could be
eminent are now realized. What goes through

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your mind at that point, Eric, You know it's funny, Bill,

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I can remember, like home,
Shoot, I hope, I hope I

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didn't hope, I hope I did
the right thing. Yeah, I hope

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I h CYA and made the notifications
that I had to make when I saw

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bits and pieces of the puzzle,
because that's you know, intelligence, you

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know, it's information and it doesn't
really become intelligence, and to we put

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it together right exactly, I had
information, and I said, gee,

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I hope I did the right thing
because God forbid, and you know I

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did. But unfortunately, as we
know today, many in the CIA and

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the FBI failed to protect us and
make the proper notifications. Like you said,

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Eric, some of this information was
available and they didn't share it across

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agency lines for whatever reason, for
ego or control or whatever. And of

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course there were laws after that.
President Bush made sure that that didn't happen

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again. But I have this sense
that, you know, some old habits

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are hard to die, and that
maybe some of those barriers have been reconstruct

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twenty two years later. Yeah,
yeah, is it as bad? I

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would probably say no. But the
Department of Homeland Insecurity, I'll call it,

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was developed, as you know,
after nine to eleven. It was

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a knee jerk reaction. The department
did not have to be formed, but

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Bush had to do something too for
the American people. It was all a

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pr stunt in my opinion, to
be honest with you, and and and

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it's still we still have a problem
today at our land, at our borders,

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three hundred and twenty eight ports of
entry, land, air and Sea.

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Would you believe that people coming to
America when they leave, we don't.

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We don't know whether or not they
left. Even to today, our

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computer systems here in America at our
land borders, airports, seaports, our

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system is still somewhat poor when it
when it comes to try visitors who come

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to Americans say goodbye and leave,
we don't really know they left. And

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that's what happened on nine to eleven. Some of these would be hijackers.

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They left and they came back to
America. Some stay overstayed their visas and

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we had no way of knowing and
tracking them, and so we're still we're

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still behind the eight ball and it's
unfortunate. And as you know, ICE

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responsible for enforcement in the interior tracking
illegal aliens. They have a heck of

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a job now because the floodgates have
been open. You know, we used

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to talk about ten million people twelve
million illegal aliens being there. Now it's

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fifty plus million. You think the
numbers that high? Fifty I thought it

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was well over thirty, but you
think over fifty, Oh yeah, I

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mean the numbers, I mean yeah, I mean that's just the land.

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No one's looking at shipping containers that
come into America. You know, fifty

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million, five h fifty million shipping
containers come into America. You want to

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guess how many looked at opened like
opened like one percent? Yeah, it's

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going to be impossible. And then
here we are realizing all the sex trafficking

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that's taking place, and we see
how victims are being transported in these containers.

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Absolutely every day across America. Containers
come to America, and some don't

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ask the percentage, but some of
those containers have men, women and children

425
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in them besides cocaine. And my
fear is a WMD agent because I know

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that Al Qaeda for sure, and
it's been documented was talking about using shipping

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containers to import WMD agents into America, vier shipping containers, and we are

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not doing enough in the area of
border security. Border security is national security,

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full stock. And Joe Biden is
the has been a gift to the

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Mexican cartels. They love Joe Biden. You think they're making between them and

431
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OPEC and Venezuela, Russia, they
love Joe Biden, Betty Betty good to

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Chinese as well. Absolutely, and
the cartels of making billions of dollars in

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the area of not just drugs,
but like as you mentioned, human trafficking.

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You know, when you look at
each each person on average, you're

435
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looking at between five to eight thousand
dollars a person to get them across on

436
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average, And it depends sometimes it
depends maybe the country of origin, like

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if you're from Iran or Iraq,
your price might go up a little more

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because it's it's that much harder.
We know that those individuals from those countries

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disguised themselves as Mexicans uh to get
into the US or try to get into

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the US. We know that just
last month you bes Ubekistani's Yes, they

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they crossed, they came to America, and we later learned it was reported

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in the Wall Street Journal bill that
that they had ties to the smuggling group

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had ties to ISIS, the Islamic
State. So you know, we have

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to be right all the time.
They just have to be right once and

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and you know they're and they're overwhelming
the system. There's no way that Border

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Control can keep up with it all, regardless of Joe Biden's special you know

447
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app that you get, I mean, Harris, she's on the job.

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Oh yeah, right, exactly.
Yeah. Has she been to the border

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yet now she uh, she lost
her map either that or she's trying to

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get there with an EV and there's
not enough arging portals between DC and the

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border to get her all the way
to the to the southern border. I

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guess well, I mean, and
you're right as far as today's concern bill,

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you know, we still have you
know, in fighting going on between

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agencies. We still have poor border
crossing computer systems that are not tracking visitors

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who who we think left, but
we really don't know because like as you

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know, in Europe and in Africa, believe it or not, when you

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enter, you get stamped in and
basically when you leave you got to go

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through outbound outbound in conspection as well. Here you don't do that. There's

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no outbound. Hey I'm leaving,
goodbye. Yeah. Yeah, your try

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and get out, try and try
and leave Israel without getting outbounded, right

461
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exactly. And so here I don't
I don't know. We can put men

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on the moon, but we can't
develop a computer system that tracks visitors.

463
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Yeah, you've got to have a
desire. They have no desire because unfortunately,

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every humanoid serves a different greedy interest
that some of these are taking full

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advantage, whether we're talking about NGO, as you're talking about Corporate America,

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you know, like these businesses you're
talking about that are hiring people on the

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cheap, you know, replacing Americans, uh, you know, with cheap

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labor. I mean, this is
you know, we need to be serious

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about this. And you know,
the way I look at it, Eric,

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is that you know, the blood
of slain Americans is on the hands

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of all these people participating in breaking
the law. Because in every state of

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the Union, we've had at least
one citizen who has been murdered at the

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hands of an illegal immigrant. Amen. These these officials should be held accountable.

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These are elected officials again, Bill, the number one job is to

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keep us safe, and many of
them are failing us. They get up

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and give nice speeches how they support
the men and women of law enforcement,

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they really don't, right. No, Yeah, that's clear that it is

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puffery. And we measure it and
see it for what it's worth because look

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at the results. Because if they
really did and they're really serious about it,

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then we wouldn't have the increasing crime
problem. You know, whether you're

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a blue state or a red state, but particularly of course what's happening in

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these blue states and these blue cities. It's just disgusting. I feel for

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these families. Like we were talking
about these these kids that can't go to

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the local park for fear that they
may be shut while they're on a playground.

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Yeah, look at him in Chicago's
like oh yeah, I mean it's

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like some weekends, twenty five to
fifty shootings a weekend, and it's like

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matter of fact, it's like it's
like, you know, we're almost a

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numb like when we used to get
the casual reports out of Vietnam. Right,

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they just became numbers. And that's
the way it is. After every

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weekend they give you a body count
of how many people were shot, how

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many were murdered in Chicago, and
it's just like, okay, all right,

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next time. And then what the
politicians want to play Paul politics because

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that's what they do best, and
say, okay, it's not it's not

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if you will a society, their
moms or dads or you know, poor

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choices. Now we're gonna blame the
gun. It's the guns. Well,

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yeah, we're gonna go out.
That's the good talking point. We're gonna

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And I'm like, will you,
you know, stop playing politics with people's

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lives exactly, both the dead and
the living. Come on, well,

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look what's Look what's going on in
New Mexico. The New Mexico eleven decided

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for thirty days emergency authorization taking all
guns. You cannot carry around Albuquerque for

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thirty days. And she even said, she goes, well, I know

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this may not help, but meanwhile
she's risking the security speaking of national security,

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but risking the security and safety of
New Mexicans. That's insane, right,

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And you know, and you've heard
the analogy. You reference the UK

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bill. They have no guns allowed
in the UK. It's very very strict

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00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.920
policies of ownership of weapons in the
UK. But you know, people are

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dying at the hands of what knives. Knives? Yeah, yeah, so

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00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:57.599
the gang bangers on the street and
fugs are killing people with knives, not

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guns. So come on, let's
let's let's just be honest about this issue.

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Relating to the violence across America.
The violence across America is due to

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many reasons. But our our education
system has a play as a role to

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play in this. Our borter security
certainly has a role to play in it

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because we're letting game bangers who are
twenty one becomes students in our elements,

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00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:31.519
our high schools and and and so
borter security, our education system, and

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of course our moms and dads need
to step up to the plate as well.

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But well, and in some of
these in some of these areas,

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Eric, as you know, fatherlessness
is the latest pandemic and what's been going

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on for decades, but this has
had a tremendous impact in minority communities where

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the father is not participating. And
as Rebecca, you know, Ramaswani pointed

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out that you know, when when
you were rewarding mothers to not be involved

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with the fathers, and uh,
we're rewarding all the wrong behavior. I

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mean, this is why you have
so much fatherlessness and fathers not participating in

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the upbringing of their children in these
minority communities. It is, it is

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an all out disaster. Well,
Bill, would you would it surprise you

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to learn that I recently read that
America leads the world in fatherlessness. Yeah,

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yeah, and yeah, I mean, and we know the results of

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that, Like you just mentioned half
the about half, we'll say about half

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people in jail and prisons don't didn't
have a dad, Yeah, and so

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yes, you know. And then
you know, I've said it once and

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I was attacked by some LGBTQ saying, well, what are you saying?

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Mothers can't be fathers? And I'm
like, you're missing the point. I

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mean, the point is boys,
young boys, young men need that male

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influence in their lives. And this
is not about LGBTQ plus plus plus right,

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00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:25.079
yes, yeah, moms females of
course have a major role to play

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in the lives of children, especially
daughters, but the dads, men have

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even higher role to play when it
comes to their sons. And you know,

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studies across this nation have shown that
that that the dads need dads.

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That's part of the mart that's part
of the problem. Would become a father

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of society. And here we are
high suicide rates, high alcohol and drug

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use because our teams aren't properly managed. If you wright well, the fact

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of the matter is, Eric,
you know, mothers can't be fathers and

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fathers can't be mothers. I mean
you're putting a round peg in a square

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00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:17.559
hole here. I mean God created
a male and female for a specific reason,

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and they need to be in the
family unit. They need to participate

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as a joint venture, each bringing
their own expertise and their own God given

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design to raising up that child.
And mothers are known for nurturing, fathers

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are known for adventure, and the
balance of those two dynamics is what raises

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a healthy child. I'm simple,
I'm oversimplifying. I get that. But

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the idea is is that we each
have a role to play in the raising

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of our children. We've got about
three minutes left here, Eric, and

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I just want to turn it over
to you in these last three minutes to

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where again, in reflecting back on
this ominous day of nine to eleven,

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twenty two years ago. What we've
learned from that day and what we need

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to do going forward in order to
get switched on and to have the America

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that we know is there and is
still possible. Thanks Bill for having me.

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You know, the world is on
fire and Americans need to understand they

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should care because we're all connected.
Now. What happens in Afghanistan, Iraq,

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or Syria or in Tanzania affects us. We learned that lesson the Hard

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Way or nine to eleven, that
bad guys have now the ability through globalization

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to reach out and touch us exactly. And so that and that's why water

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security is so important. It equals
national security. So we want to make

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sure drugs are not flowing into America
as it is right now, fat and

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all. We want to make sure
counterfeits are not flowing into America, so

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when I purchase my pharmaceuticals, they're
safe. Exactly. I want to make

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sure that that the men and women
that come to America to work are employed

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as slave labors in our restaurants,
and they're they're given a fear fear salary.

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Yeah, and so right now,
our country unfortunately built as it is

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00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.039
in disarray. Well, no,
I think the threat level is just as

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high as it was prior to nine
to eleven, and and it's it's unfortunate.

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It didn't have to be that way. But all we have to look

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at is what's happening today. Look
at Afghanistan, look at our southern border.

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Just those two issues alone. We
didn't have that prior to nine to

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eleven. We have that today.
We have a Taliban government with hundreds of

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00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.960
millions of all it's worth, a
sophisticated technology, military technology. It's not

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staying in Afghanistan. They have suicide
brigades now in Afghanistan. So this nation,

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this nation, Americans, need to
get switched on and understand the core

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principles that will keep us safe.
Educator, educators, strong mind, educate

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yourself strong mind. Through education,
it's your ticket to life's party bill.

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Without it, you're not getting in. Strengthen the body through sleep, eaten,

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00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:37.760
exercise every day, and strengthen the
soul through faith. We need to

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have the faith to understand that no
matter what happens, your father, your

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00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.800
brother, your dog dies, you
lose your job, you lose your wife,

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00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:51.599
it's gonna be okay. It's gonna
be okay. But we've lost our

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00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:58.360
way when it comes to our faith
in religion, and we're I'm not sure

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what Americans believe in these days,
and so I beg Americans to get switched

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on. To get switched on,
go to Switched On Life. You can

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get my book there or on Amazon. Bill exactly well. Eric Karen,

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a twenty five year decorated veteran special
agent Department Treasury, US Customs and A

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Department of Homeland Security and Ice,
author of the book Switched On the Heart

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and Mind of a Special Agent.
Eric, thank you so much for being

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with us. Appreciate it. Hey, God bless the Bill, and thank

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you for what you do. Sir, you got it. Our thanks to

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Eric Karen for being with us today. For more information and to be a

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part of this mighty movement to return
to God and to save our country.

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Go to Bill Martinez Show dot com. May God bless you and keep you,

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and make His face shine upon you, and may be gracious unto you

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00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:50.960
and give you peace. Thank you
so much for being with us. God bless