Former Decorated Special Agent Asks, Are You Aware of What’s Happening? Get Switched On

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good afternoon, Good to have you with

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us. Bill Martin is here.
For more information on the show, we'll

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tell you up front. Check it
out Bill Martinez Show dot com. My

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good friend Eric Karen is going to
be joining us in just a moment.

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Former special Agent, decorated officer,
and author of a great book called Switched

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On the Heart and Mind of a
Special Agent. He brings his years of

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passion and love for what he has
done in service to our country and shares

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with us some ideas that are necessary
in these prevailing times when you need to

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be situationally aware and you need to
be switched on, especially in light of

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what is being thrust upon us,
and that is this rank corruption at every

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turn within our government. Eric Karen, welcome to the show. Good to

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have you with us, Hey,
Bill, want an honor to be on

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with you, Sir. I always
enjoy our time together, Eric, and

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I think it's such value to our
viewers here in this particular format because it's

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the first time you and I've had
a chance to do this TV show together,

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and we're gonna have a little bit
more time to break it down.

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But before we get into situational awareness
in some of the specifics that you drain

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about all the time, let's take
a look at the current landscape. I

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mean what was revealed here yesterday with
these two whistleblowers. Boy, if this

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doesn't add to um, you know, our suspicions and our convictions that we've

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held all along, and that is
the deep corruption, corruption of the bureaucracy.

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Yeah, Bill, Yeah, it's
it's sad um. You know.

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Over a year ago, Bill,
I call for a complete colonoscopy of the

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federal government. I really did,
Uh, The FBI, the DOJ,

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Homeland Security all need a colonoscopy,
including the CIA. Right. Unfortunately,

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the cancer spread so bad during the
during the last year, and the evidence

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is very clear. The FBI needs
to be abolished, right and it's very

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you know, people will say,
well, it's that's difficult to do.

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How could you say that? And
who's going to do the job. Listen,

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First of all, the FBI has
spied on a presidential candidate illegally,

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they opened fiser investigations against a sitting
president. They spied on churchgoers, They

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arrested and prosecuting people relating to abortion. It goes on and on, and

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that can't stand in America, and
so other agencies. Bill can take up

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the slack, if you will.
Those responsibilities can be done by DA and

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Homeland Security for the American people to
regain its trust in the federal government.

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Really, the FBI needs to be
abolished in its responsibilities given to the other

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agencies. So it's a fresh start, you know, a race, a

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race or race exactly. We made
mistakes, devastating mistakes. We lied on

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affidavits, and we illegally prosecuted people, and so yes, other agencies can

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do it. So yeah, colonoscopy
certainly for the CIA, and the DOJ

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is in order as well, well, maybe all the other three letter agencies

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as well, because the corruption has
metastasized to such a degree. Eric,

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before my father passed away, I
think it's been like fourteen years, he

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and I were having a deep discussion
about the government and we both agreed that

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maybe we should call time out on
the government, that we needed to go

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in and almost put it into receivership, you know, like a chapter eleven

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to where we could have somebody come
in from the outside and really look at

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the inefficiencies, whether we're talking about
the Department of Defense, just right on

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down top to bottom. As you
say, I mean, while we got

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the court out and we're going to
do the colonoscopy, let's just do it

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throughout the entire bureaucracy, so to
speak, because it is that can not

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be afraid exactly to take action.
Yeah, Republican Democrat, if you will,

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A Congress needs to say put the
interests America first, Yes, America

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first. And what needs to happen
here is that that colonoscopy and those agencies,

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if you will, like the FBI, should be abolished. We can

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do this. It's not like rocket
science. If you will, not putting

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a person on the moon, we
can. We can abolish the FBI,

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EI, the other agencies d EA, Homeland Security and other agencies atf can

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all pick up their responsibilities. It's
not rocket science what they do well.

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Eric, you know this firsthand.
In watching these whistleblowers, I tell you

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it pained me because I'm seeing two
qualified individuals. It just so happens that

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they're landing on the wrong side of
the power structure right now. So they're

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being maligned and traded like Bariah,
but that they have put on the line.

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You know, Utah about our founding
fathers, going to first principles.

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You know that we often talk about
what they put on the line, you

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know, their lives, their treasure, their reputations, their honor. That's

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what these two men did yesterday.
They put a pull on the line.

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What for what for the sake of
our country? And I couldn't help but

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think, Eric, and you know
better because you've been there, is that

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how many other people just like you
know, just like Shaffley and the other

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whistleblower, Ziegler, how many others
like them. They just want to serve.

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They want to, you know,
exercise their giftings and talents on behalf

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of we, the American people,
And they're being stifled because of the corruption.

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Yeah, George Washington said it best. Bill, he said, guard

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against the impostors of pretended patriotism.
And that's what the Democrat Party, I

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call it the socialist Democrat Party these
days. Um, that's what's happening is

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that their humanizing police at the local
level. They're demonizing agents, good agents

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who are being honest and presenting facts
and documents and evidence, real evidence that

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shows that unfortunately, our president is
corrupt, our current leader of the free

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world is corrupt. The evidence is
very clear. I've said it for the

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last year. Follow the evidence,
the suspicious activity reports that banks are required

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to issue and fill out in submit
those documents to the Art Treasury. They

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speak on them. They speak very
clear what was happening. And so the

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irs agents who I've worked with very
closely, very competent, very smart.

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These are being counter type guys.
A lot of them are countants, a

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lot of them are attorneys. They
know what they're doing. They follow the

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evidence. I follow the evidence with
them, and it's very clear to me

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that you have a corrupt president.
The Biden crime family has enriched himself using

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his office, and there's clear there's
very clear regulations from the Apartment of Justice

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that I have in my hand.
An employee may not use his official position,

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including information learned by virtue of his
position, for his personal benefit or

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the benefit of others. This is
in black and white from the Department of

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Justice. That's very clear to me
what was happening with the Biden crime family.

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And then on top of that bill, let me just say, you

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have the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act,
a criminal charge that is very clear what

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Joe Biden was doing. He was
and these are all felonies, Eric,

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right, these are all felonies.
Absolutely, Yeah, this is a felony,

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the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. It's
been charged on many occasions in America

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that US attorneys throughout America. We
have task forces, we have we have

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several task forces. This is what
they do. They go after current or

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former government officials around the world who
enriched themselves illegally. Unfortunately, we won't

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prosecute our current president who violated the
Foreign Corrupt Practices at right. You know,

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we're talking with Eric Karen, author
of the book Switched on the Heart

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and Mind of a Special Agent.
As we you know, do a deeper

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dive on what is going on,
because whether it's the mainstream media. Our

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own government has a specific narrative that
they want us to believe. It's like

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they're jeddying us, Eric, you
know what I mean. And it's amazing

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to me that even with the polling
and the low approval ratings that this president

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has right now, that there's anybody
I mean, you know, it'll vacilate

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anywhere from thirty to forty per And
you wonder, you go, what are

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they seeing that I'm not seeing that
they think that this president is doing a

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job worthy of reelection. Yeah,
well, it's exactly. You've got to

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be living on Mars to think that
he's doing a great job. The economy,

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crime, inflation, et cetera,
et cetera. It's just it's terrible.

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You know, on average, fifty
thousand suicides. There's a million people

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who who overdose since nineteen ninety nine
in America, a million people bill a

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million people you know, overdosed in
America and died a million. I mean,

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we're so distracted right now that I'm
very concerned again, how foreign adversaries

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are watching Joe Biden every day and
they see that he's weak, and Iran

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sees he's weak. North Korea sees
he's weak. Afghanistan Taliban sees he's weak,

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and right now they're having a field
day, I don't know, against

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and against America, if you will, and demonizing and really, you know,

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crime is rampant throughout this world and
Joe Biden can barely string three sentences

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together right well, as you say, Eric, I mean again, as

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a special agent, you can appreciate
this because he's put at risk our military

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forces, other special agents are border
patrol because he is so weak, and

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he's left them all very vulnerable.
And I'll tell you it was quite scary

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the other day. Don't know,
if you saw this video of him reading

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trying to read something, I mean, he couldn't even say it, you

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know, sitting down across, you
know, from the president of Israel,

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and the president of Israel kind of
looked up to the media and the people

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in the audience like is this for
real? I mean, tell me,

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tell me, I'm just experiencing a
nightmare here. I mean, you know,

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to your point, he couldn't even
read, you know, from a

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cheat sheet what he was supposed to
say. It was like you're mumbling.

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It was sad, it was and
you know, but think about it.

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You have him at the center.
Who's around him, who's pulling the strings?

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Has often has been asked, and
we have these these other individuals who

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are extreme progressive liberals pulling the string
and say, mister President, say this

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today? Does the president do this
today? He has no idea the implications

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of what he's saying or what he's
doing half the time, but he's like

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a little puppet being controlled. And
it's very dangerous because we've seen the shift

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in America in less than two about
two years. Right, Well, it's

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a continuation of Barack Obama's administration.
In essence, this is becoming his third

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term. And if you remember that's
what Barack Obama was asked, you know,

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would you be interested in serving a
third term? Because not necessarily,

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but I wouldn't mind being in the
ear of the president who was in the

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White House, so that I could
have a direct influence on policy. Yeah.

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Well, boy, it sure seems
like that's the case that he You

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know, it's a dream come true
for Barack Obama at the expanse of everyday

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Americans like you and I. That's
right. And you know, we talk

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about border security equals national security exactly
and you know under Obama, you know,

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he came out with a memo that
said to Homeland Security and other officials

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saying that you cannot call the illegal
aliens illegal aliens anymore. You need to

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call them undocumented. And now i'm
Joe Biden administration. Now it's non citizens.

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You have to call them non citizens. And you you know, in

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some cases, states are issuing licenses
and some states want to give them,

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city want to give them voting.
So, yeah, the progressive movement has

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certainly moved very far to the left. And and so we as Americans need

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to really, you know, wake
up and understand what's happening. That our

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first Amendment, our fourth Amendment,
our freedoms are being attacked unfortunately, and

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yes, we need to stand up
peacefully in protest. Right Well, and

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the thing is is that let's go
back and we talk about first principles.

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How this country began. It began
as a revolution, and perhaps we've gone

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full circle, Eric, and what
happens in a revolution. Yes, I

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think the heart of most people is
that, you know, they don't want

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bullets flying, you know, they
don't want people dying. But look at

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our founding fathers, the patriots,
the early patriots of this great country of

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ours had to be willing to pay
the ultimate price, and they did in

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many cases. So you can't control, you know, when people get this

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upset. I think Ramaswami had said
it before that you know, when people

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are first irritated, they start to
say something. If you don't hear them,

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they'll start to shout. If you
don't hear the shouting, then they

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go to the next level. In
so many words, and when they go

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to the next level, you know, humans being what they are, and

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as you're saying here, I mean, we got people committing suicide, the

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crime rate out of control, people
are losing hope and realizing at the same

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time that the common denominator in all
this mess is Joe Biden and the Democratic

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Party. Yeah. You know,
for the last few years, Bill,

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since I've retired and wrote my book
Switched on the Heart and Mind with a

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Special Agent, I've had a chance
to be on various shows and I feel

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kind of like the Paul Revere up
here in Massachusetts, you know, ringing

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the bell to the American people,
and it's it is frustrating that a few

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people are listening to what you are
saying. And I'm saying, you know,

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and I'm hoping that that over the
course of the next few years,

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people will pay attention because yes,
our freedoms are certainly under attack, and

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so yes, we need to get
switched on. We need to live the

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switched on principles because life is hard. Well, look what they're doing,

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I mean, look what they're doing
to our kids, you know, grooming

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our kids. And you know,
you talk about open borders. There's a

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very popular movie right now that is
engaging people across the country, The Sound

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of Freedom, about human sex trafficking
and the human sex trafficking that is demonstrated

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in this movie, you know,
shows that it is the kids, it's

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young kids under ten years of age, Eric, that are getting captured and

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thrown into these uh you know,
these sex camps. And this is all

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coordinated through our southern border and the
cartels, and the Democratic Party is complicit

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in this enterprise. That's right,
You're right, um, And we're actually

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the Homeland Security and Health and Human
Services and others. The Catholic charities of

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putting children in homes with predators amazing
and that's that's been documented. So Bill,

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listen, I've traveled to Africa these
last years and doing training for foreign

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governments in the area of transnational crime. And you know right now there are

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thirty million people enslaved throughout America.
Thirty million people enslaved. That is that

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for their labor or their we're talking, we're talking around the world here right

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right, million people and in all
forms, right, you know, sexual

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exploitation, labor, it's happening here
in America. Label labor exploitation, oregon

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harvesting, which I'm familiar with,
child sacrifices that are happening throughout the world.

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It goes on on and on.
Doctors in Uganda, sixty two doctors

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or under investigation in Uganda for oregon
harvesting. And don't think it's not happening

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here either, Bill, It's all
of what I just mentioned is happening here

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in America. And that's why we
need border security here in America. We'd

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learned that hard lesson on nine to
eleven. Bill, that in and three

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thousand Americans died on nine to eleven
because we are soft, and it was

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nineteen terrorists roughly, and we have
I guess last year alone, over one

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hundred known terrorists came through our southern
border. And I think that's an interesting

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number. I mean, it's a
is it a hundred? Is it two

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hundred? Is one thousand? It
just seemed to me like it was an

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estimated number. They don't know,
Erica, but at least they'll admit to

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a hundred. But you know,
again, think about it, it was

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only nineteen terrorists that did all the
damage on nine to eleven, brought the

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world to its knees built And and
you know what, you know in Africa

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there are ten thousand, over ten
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I mean, we hear about al
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of terror groups running around Africa.
We have twenty some odd shadow wars going

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on in Africa. I can tell
you the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force that

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I used to be part of and
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served overseas. This over a thousand
Joint Terrorism Task Force cases going on

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today? Well today, and so
should do we need to get switched on?

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Do we need border security? Absolutely? And you know when I was

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just I just came back from Kenya
and I'll tell you what, Eric,

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Let's let's pick that part up the
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along with Eric Karen. He is
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hey, we're giving us here real
ladies and gentlemen, Your eyes are not

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lying to you the pain that you
are realizing. In spite of Joe Biden's

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pronouncement that biden Omics is all that
and a bag of chips, we know

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better, We know the reality of
it. The fact of the matter is

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America is in crisis. Our first
amandment, America's cornerstone has been attacked by

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the Communist Democratic Party, and as
Trevor Loudon has been reporting, there are

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over a hundred card caring socialist Democratic
Socialist that you've elected to office. And

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it amazes me. Eric because you
know, when you go into office,

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you have to raise your right hand, you have to give a testament,

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a vow that you will protect our
country, the citizens of the country,

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we the people, against all enemies
foreign and domestic that would do anything against

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our constitution. And the fact of
the matter is is that here we are

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today and the very thing that Abraham
Lincoln in so many words warned us about

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that any loss of our democracy and
this great American idea would come more from

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the inside than existentially. Right.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Essentially,

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they're like double agents, Bill.
Yeah, I'm very familiar with them.

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And these people are undermining our constitution. They're attacking our constitution and it's unfortunate.

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We have to recognize it take the
appropriate actions, meaning we need to

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get them out of office when we
can, impeach them when we can.

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And that's what we need to do. We need to start taking back our

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freedoms here, I mean our free
him a speech is under attack and it's

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you know, Joe Biden in the
Biden crime family, and we see the

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tier two tier system of justice that
can't stand in America. That might happen

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in Kenya, Uganda, the Congo
it cannot happen here in America. We

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are the example for the rest of
the world to pay attention to watch.

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You know, I had some Kenya
official tell me so, Eric, I

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want you to know, when America
sneezes, the rest of the world catches

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a cold, right, and so
everybody's watching us now. It definitely flows

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downhill fast, from a cold to
a flu, to the shanks to COVID.

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I mean, you know, just
go right on down the line,

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and at the end there's misery and
there's death. Unfortunately that's associated with that.

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America. As John Winthrop said,
that was to be that light on

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a shining hill, that light of
hope, the light of liberty. And

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though it's been dimmed a little bit
right now, some may say even more

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than a little bit. Uh.
You know, I think my faith,

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Eric is still with the American people. I believe that we're strong enough cumulatively,

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and that by coming together being united, not as Democrats or Republicans,

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but as Americans coming together as one
united but we can get this country back

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on track and get these knuckleheads out
of office that are taking advantage of us

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and ingratiating themselves. They're not like
the early servants of our founding fathers,

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who came to serve the country,
not to be served unfortunately, this professional

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elected bureaucracy and class of people,
elites that think that somehow, you know,

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we're just so blessed to have them, you know, with their fancy

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degrees and all this other stuff.
I mean, look at what they've done

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in time and again, you know, we haven't been winning wars. We

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devastated America by not handling the COVID
pandemic, and we're even warned that,

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look at this is just the beginning. Another pandemic is just around the corner.

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And and what's the answer. The
Biden crime family and the Democrats they

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want to you know, they want
to subordinate our sovereignty to the who,

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the who, who mishandled this from
day one, who still even today cannot

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tell us where the origin of COVID, you know, where it came from.

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But we're going we're going to trust
them to be in control of our

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health an outside agency. This is
insane. Yeah, I mean, let

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me just say the Biden Biden,
who is Biden done? For the last

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two years. He mishandled the Afghan
withdrawal and got Americans killed. Crime is

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rampant in America throughout America. Look
at Philly and Chicago, Oh, etcetera,

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etcetera. And he's gotten us.
He's gotten us into a war that

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is soon to be leading a World
War three exactly. I mean hello.

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And so you know at the base
of the Statue of Liberty on your point

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Bill, it says, give me
or bring up, bring me you're tired,

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your poor, your humble masses yearning
to breathe free right. That was

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supposed to be for aliens if you
will coming to America, that statement now

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is for Americans who wanted to be
free right exactly. But look at just

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like our early at patriots, Eric, they stood up in America, we

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the people must stand up. And
the difference that we have, we have

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such a greater advantage when you think
about it, because you know, those

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early patriots, they didn't have a
declaration of independence, they didn't have a

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constitution, they had an idea,
and they were frustrated because the way the

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current government was mistreating them. And
it's amazing when you read the Declaration of

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Independence in the context of today.
You tell me that this isn't appropriate and

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this doesn't apply to the current environment
that this government has put us in.

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Yeah, absolutely, you touched on
this bill. They had faith, yes,

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And you know faith and fear opposing
energies, isn't it. Yes,

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faith fear. Our founding fathers have
faith. They didn't have fear because if

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we had fear, if they had
fear, God only knows what would have

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happened to our country, right,
and so where we would be at today.

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And so that's why it's so important
that we have faith as individuals,

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as a nation. And unfortunately,
of course the Democrat Party wants to do

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away with religion faith in America.
Well, they omitted God. They decided

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in two thousand, Eric to take
God out of their party platform. And

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look what's happened to the Democratic Party
since then. I mean, and you

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can go back to the what mid
sixties when the country, Oh, this

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separation of church and state had to
happen because of public education and the pressures

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that were put on by the unions, and we took the Ten Commandments out

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of the hallways of the classrooms.
Now look at the classrooms of today.

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They're a combat zone. Eric,
They're not educational facilities any longer. They're

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indoctrination camps. No, yeah,
you're absolutely right, Bill. Look at

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our schools, our public schools and
private schools throughout America, the way they're

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functioning. Now. Look at our
police departments today as well, in how

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they handle crime in America. They're
not able to police in America these days.

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Right. That's why I've got many
friends who are police officers. I

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have many friends who are still special
agents in border patrol. You know what

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the border patro slogan is. Now, there's a patch. I have the

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patch, the welcome patrol, the
welcome patrol. The Morales log throughout America

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in the school districts, Morales log
at the police level, if you will.

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And you know, people are fleeing
these cities, and who's filling the

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void? Number one? Illegal aliens
are filling the void in our inner cities.

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And liberal mayors love it because they
have six million dollars from Joe Biden

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for this hotels, phones, food, and you know, the businesses love

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it because they're making money on the
backs of illegal aliens. But you and

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I, yeah, we're not benefiting
from the flood of what twenty thirty million

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illegal aliens that have just come in
and last year. Yeah, but even

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from that standpoint, from a money
making standpoint, there's got to be a

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cost benefit analysis. You are chasing
away um tax paying citizens out of these

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blue states, and they're primarily blue
states. I mean, there's such an

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exodus. It's incredible that's taking place. California, for example. As expensive

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as as it's become for them,
I don't know that they will ever be

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able to meet a budget after they
chase so many people. And these are

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you know, these are businesses that
were you know, paying you know,

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good taxes if you can say tax
money to the state, and they're gone,

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Eric, And this is happening across
the country, and so the government

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can only give you so much money
because otherwise you're back to what Margaret Thatcher

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said is socialism works until you run
out of other people's money. Right,

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you're absolutely right. Yeah, you're
right. California, New York, New

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Jersey, Illinois, in Massachusetts top
five. Yeah, And and they're all

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going to states with low crime,
jobs and the rule of law. And

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you know, I gotta tell you
Bill, globalization, like it or hate

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it, it's here to stay.
But our government, the US government,

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00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:20.719
all governments really need to understand that
bad guys will exploit globalization for their own

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00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:28.880
goodness right right exactly, they exploit
trade travel and tell a communication for their

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criminal purposes, meaning you know,
trade well because they're going to import I

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don't know, a thousand kilos of
cocaine and shipping container travel. Um,

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I need to go to a you
know, I need to travel to Bangkoks

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so I can exploit in traffic children
in Bangkoks. So I get on a

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plane and I'm in Bangkok within twenty
four hours and then tell a communication same

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thing. I have dirty money.
I need to move the dirty money over

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the over the internet. So it's
our responsibility, our the US government's responsibility

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to recognize that, yes, there
are bad people who are hurting us,

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who will exploit our freedoms, and
we must be on guard to the fact

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that they will exploit trade travel exactly
and they're not looking out for our best

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interests, no doubt at all.
Got to go to break. We've got

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more from the former US diplomat and
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We're talking with Eric Karron, former decorated

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special Agent, and Eric, I
do want to go into a deeper dive

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in your book. But before we
do, just to kind of encapsulate and

483
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.320
summarize what we've been talking about,
is we're being lied to three ways to

484
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.880
Sunday. Whether it's Marek Garland,
clearly he's lied to us, he's lied

485
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.480
to Congress, so he's in jeopardy
here. So we're going to see what

486
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:52.360
Congress does in terms of some sort
of contempt charge, some sort of you

487
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.559
know, you know, some sort
of consequence, because this is what the

488
00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.960
American people are longing for. So
whether it's Mark Garland, Christopher Ray,

489
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:06.800
it just seems especially based on the
reports that we're getting, you know,

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00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.559
from these whistleblowers in particular, and
what we're finding out, whether it's from

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00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:15.679
you know, the the you know, the Twitter emails and more and more

492
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.760
discovery that we're that's being revealed to
us. You know, they're they're just

493
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.360
covering their rear ends and they're lying
three ways to Sunday. And if we're

494
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:28.079
going to clean this up up,
like you say at colonoscopy, we've got

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00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.639
to get all the negative, all
the lines out of the way so that

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00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.880
we know what we're dealing with.
Right. Yeah, absolutely, Bill,

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00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.840
And thank you for the courage that
you have for your show, your radio

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00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:44.079
show and this show, um,
because without it, people aren't hearing the

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00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.920
truth because you know it is it
is censored. Um. And we've all

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00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:53.239
been censored Tory, UM. And
so it's it's important, and yeah,

501
00:41:53.239 --> 00:42:00.960
it's it's about time that you know, our attorney general and others held accountable

502
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:07.440
for their for their actions and lies. Um. It's very clear that they

503
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:13.440
they're trying to protect Joe Biden and
in the Biden crime family, and that

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00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.679
cannot stand in America. The other
thing is, Bill, and I've mentioned

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00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:21.639
this on your radio show, the
CIA is at the center of all of

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00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:27.000
this exactly. Very little about the
Central Intelligence Agency that you notice in these

507
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:31.880
herrings. No one's talking about the
CIA and how the CIA was at the

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00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.599
middle, at the center of the
Biden crime family. Right, This in

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00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.519
essence is the deep part of the
deep state, aren't they the CNIA,

510
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:46.519
Yes, yeah, exactly what they're
doing to us is what they've done to

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00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.440
other countries. I mean, they're
experts in this kind of psyops operation,

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00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.880
are they not? Yeah? So, Bill. A side note is that

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00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.559
I investigated the CIA for obstruction of
justice under Bill Clinton. It's in my

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00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:09.280
book relating to the tech transfer and
relating to China and defense contractors illegally shipping

515
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.920
a US technology to China for their
missile program. I ended up investigating the

516
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:21.880
CIA relating to that criminal cage because
they went behind our backs and they knew

517
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.880
we had a grand jury ongoing grand
jury investigation that they said they were helping

518
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:31.840
us on. They gave the targets
a quote unquote roadmap to our investigation.

519
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.079
Now, I spent six months at
Langley in the basement with their OIG guys,

520
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.400
so I have a little good insight
as to how the CIA operates.

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00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:46.360
And so let me tell you that
when Hunter Biden, Joe Biden meeting with

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00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:52.679
the head of the Chinese spy agency, that doesn't happen without the CIA knowledge.

523
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:59.519
Exactly. Yeah, now, you're
exactly You're exactly right. This is

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00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:04.920
how impromised we are. We are. We're a bit delusional, Eric right

525
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.920
now, and this is why you're
calling for a colon uskpie of our government.

526
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:13.039
We're a bit delusional to think that
our democratic republic still exists because this

527
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:17.840
is being run and the levers of
power are being controlled by the deep deep

528
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.119
State and the CIA. They're the
mad hatters behind it all, are they

529
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.960
not? And yeah, I mean
absolutely they are at the tip of the

530
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:32.119
spear. Deal j most of the
time, not all, but most of

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00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.599
the time will crumble and fold if
the CIA says back off. Right,

532
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:43.079
And I can tell you firsthand,
I've had several cases with the CIA,

533
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:49.800
their CIA employees or CIA informants who
went rogue and the DOJ did nothing.

534
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:55.639
And that huge Laurel investigation is a
perfect example. It's in my book Switched

535
00:44:55.679 --> 00:45:00.639
on the Heart and Mind, Special
Agent. It's in my book I show

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00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:07.000
how the DJ folded when the CIA
basically told him the back off. Well,

537
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:12.000
look what happened with the Biden investigation. You know, the tentacles of

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00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:19.159
the CIA are involved here because Justice
decided not to pursue. They gave advanced

539
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.159
notice to Hunter Biden's attorneys that they
were going to come in and you know,

540
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:30.800
check out a storage area. You
know papers that Joe Biden has had

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00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:37.039
in his garage and elsewhere. He's
had advanced notice. But certainly Donald Trump

542
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.719
was not treated the same way,
right, not at all. And essentially,

543
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:44.400
essentially, the Bidens were a conduit, if you will, a vessel

544
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.079
into the Chinese spy agency and the
CIA thought hey, it'd be great to

545
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.920
set up come these different types of
companies and do joint ventures and we get

546
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.239
to control and listen and do whatever
we got to do. And yeah,

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00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.760
the Bidens are kind of you know, criminals, but you know they're helping

548
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:01.199
us too. So at the end
of the day, I'm sure about a

549
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.119
year from now, you're gonna hear
the Hunter Biden and Joe Biden were great

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00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:10.039
American citizens for working on behalf of
the CIA, right, imagine that story.

551
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:14.559
Well that's a narrative yet to be
told. But hey, look at

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00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.920
we've heard, We've heard a lot
worse. Your book Switched On Eric is

553
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.119
so important that people need to read
because of what we're talking about. I

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00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.760
mean, the dangers are you know, they're near, they're present, and

555
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.719
they're growing, they're not going away. I mean the corruption, you know

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00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.880
what we're seeing at the highest levels
of our government. And so what does

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00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:42.239
that do? That infects the body
politic You know, there's no wonder that

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00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:47.320
New York is so crime written in
Chicago and all these major especially democratic cities

559
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:53.760
because they're following the lead of what
our government is telling them. It's okay.

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00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:59.639
And then oh yeah, now I
think it's Illinois right that you don't

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00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.119
have to have any bail. You
know, they've passed a law so you

562
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.719
don't even need to have any bail. You're gonna go in, you're gonna

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00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.960
go out. That's it. Oh
yeah, I mean look at the port

564
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:14.639
marine who who defended a goodness.
Don't even get me started on that in

565
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.599
New York. I mean he's prosecuted. You kidding me? And so as

566
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.480
Americans, we need to get switched
on. And I can tell you Bill,

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00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:28.480
if I was not switched on in
life, I would be dead today.

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00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.360
I would be dead, meaning both
in my physical world as a special

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00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:37.239
agent because I did undercover operations.
I did a lot of search warrants and

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00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.840
arrests throughout my twenty five years.
If I wasn't switched on and it made

571
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.519
a mistake, it could cost me
my life right and now on the flip

572
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:50.719
side of the coin, both in
my if you will, emotional spiritual world,

573
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:54.239
if I wasn't switched on, I
would be dead today because of my

574
00:47:54.360 --> 00:48:01.199
PTSD that I suffered and my suicidal
thought that I had on the job after

575
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:07.559
I left a job actually and the
struggles with PTSD, and so What Switched

576
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:13.639
On helped me do is overcome the
stresses if you will, of life.

577
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.400
And it helped me make good decisions. And that's why I want people to

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00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:22.320
get the book because because it's literally
I tell war stories in the book,

579
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:27.039
but it's it's and in some self
help as well in the book. And

580
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.519
so Switched On the Heart and Mind
of Special Agent the website Switched on Life,

581
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.199
and I talk about my core principles. If I have one minute,

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00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.480
bill, yes you do, go
ahead. The core principles of living a

583
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:45.039
switched on life that I learned from
my Marine Corps father folks at ten at

584
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.559
ten years old and my dad,
my hero died when I was fifteen years

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00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:53.920
old. The police officer died on
the job. Switched On the principles strengthened

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00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.159
the mind through education. It's a
ticket to life's party. Without it,

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00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.559
you're not getting in the mind.
It's I call it a muscle. I

588
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.760
know it's not a muscle. You've
got to practice it every day. Got

589
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.239
to be exercised exactly the mind,
the body. My dad would say to

590
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:14.679
me the three most important things we
do every day sleep eaten exercise, sleep

591
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:22.400
beaten exercise the body and the third
is faith. Strengthen the soul through faith.

592
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.280
When fear comes, knock and bill
on our doors, and it will

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00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:32.079
send faith to answer. So those
are the three core principles I live by

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00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:38.679
every day. They're equally important,
and they have to be fed every day,

595
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:45.000
Yes, every day. So that's
how I live my life. Well,

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00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.400
Eric, Karen, you've blessed us
with your life story, with your

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00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:53.639
experience, the nuggets of wisdom you
know that started with your father passed on

598
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.480
and you've been passing on to your
kids and now to our audience as well.

599
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.960
And I cannot thank you. And
that. How can people get their

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00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.360
hands on your book? Switched On? Yeah, of course Amazon, It's

601
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:09.360
there on Amazon. Switched On the
Heart and Mind of a special Agent.

602
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:15.440
The audiobook is phenomenal book built.
I love it. And then Switched on

603
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:20.000
Life is my website. You'll see
the articles I write for A Blue magazine

604
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:28.559
and other newspapers from the Washington Times
and other articles I've written relating to crime

605
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:34.440
in America in national security. So
Switched on Life and I hope people get

606
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.480
to get switched on. Well,
there it is Leis and gentlemen, just

607
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:40.079
for you, Eric care in the
former decorated Special Agent Eric. Thank you

608
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:44.880
so much for being with us.
God bless you. You take care and

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