Sept. 27, 2023
Former Capitol Police Officer Tarik Johnson Shares The Truth Of What Really Happened On Jan. 6

Tarik Johnson, a 22-year veteran on the Capitol Hill force, considers himself to be an expert in his field. January 6th, as the on-site commander in charge of securing the certification of the 2020 presidential election. Despite pleas for help on Jan....
Tarik Johnson, a 22-year veteran on the Capitol Hill force, considers himself to be an expert in his field. January 6th, as the on-site commander in charge of securing the certification of the 2020 presidential election. Despite pleas for help on Jan. 6, Johnson said he did not hear anything, not even from Capitol Police chief assistant Yogananda Pittman, who allegedly kept vital information about the protests from him. He’s here to tell his side of the story, so you can decide for yourself.
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Well, good to have you with us.
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I'm Bill Martinez, and I'm excited
to be sharing with you our next
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guest, former Capitol Police officer Tarret
Johnson T K. Johnson, Here to
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tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but what really happened on
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January sixth. I know, I
understand, you know, we've had congressional
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hearings, there's been, you know, so much reported about January sixth,
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But I can tell you the majority
of Americans are still scratching their head,
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going, wait a minute, we're
being worked here. We're not being told
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the whole truth. There's something seems
to be missing from this controlled narrative.
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And I will say this upfront.
Yes, there were some heroes on January
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sixth, and let's say on both
sides, okay, but I think that
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there are some heroes that were not
acknowledged. And after you hear T.
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K. Johnson's story, you'll understand
what I'm referring to. T K.
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Johnson was twenty two year veteran on
the Capitol. He'll force he considers himself
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to be an expert in the field. He will tell you he worked hard
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through all of certifications to learn what
to do and how to responsibly step up
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and handle his position on January sixth
as the on site commander who was in
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charge of securing the certification of the
twenty twenty presidential election. Despite please for
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help on January sixth, Johnson said
he did not hear anything, not even
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from the Capitol Police Chief Assistant Yogananda
Pittman, who allegedly kept vital information about
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the protest from him. Let's welcome
Tarik Johnson t K. Johnson to the
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show. TK. Welcome to the
show. Good to have you with us.
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Thank you for having me on,
Bill, I appreciate it very much.
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Well, I'll tell you our audience
is one that believes in the truth,
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the whole truth, and nothing.
But that's what this show is all
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about. So we're grateful to you
to come on, to have the courage
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to tell your story because we know
what happens in Washington, DC. The
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theme is it must stay in Washington, DC, and it must be controlled
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by those who control the narrative.
If somebody gets outside of that line,
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then you feel the full pressure of
the forces that wants you to comport correct.
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That is absolutely correct. So let's
let's go back prior to January the
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sixth. I mean, here you
are, you know what you're doing.
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Explain to our audience your background.
I said that you know because I've heard
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you say time and again in other
shows that you consider yourself an expert,
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and I believe that you are an
expert. You speak with conviction, you
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speak with experience. Explain to our
audience why you were the one that needed
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to be there in the place that
you were at on January sixth. Okay,
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let me start with giving the audience
a little bit about my background.
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Okay, I was actually on the
police department for twenty three and a half
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years at the time I resigned in
September of twenty twenty two. I started
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out as a regular officer in the
rank of private and I started March nineteen
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ninety nine is when I started,
and I took a test to get promoted
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to special Agent. I was primarily
assigned to Senator Patrick lay Here of Vermont,
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and I did that for approximately two
years. And then I took the
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Sergeant's exam and I passed the Sergeant's
exam the first time I took it.
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Got promoted to sergeant in December of
two thousand and four. And I worked
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pretty much every division on every section
on the Capitol Hill other than the Library
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Congress. In my time as a
sergeant. I won Office of the Year
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in two thousand and twelve. You
can probably google that google my name.
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There was a tunnel with bus fire
in the D Street Tonnel and twenty twelve
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and I had to help evacuate officer
officers. I had the help of officers
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to evacuate people out of that tunnel. When we got them out safely,
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and me and along with two other
officers, we were awarded the Office of
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the Year. In two twelve,
I took the Lieutenants Exam and I was
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promoted to lieutenant in June of twenty
eighteen, and I was assigned to the
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Capitol Division. And I worked the
Capitol Division from Junior twenty eighteen until January
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sixth of twenty twenty one, the
time of the County of the electorial votes.
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That was my actual last day of
working at the Capital Pliceow and I
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was suspended for approximately seventeen months.
And when I returned to work, I
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processed in during their first week,
I went out on lead, and then
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I processed out after about two months
of being on lead, and I left
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the department on September twenty third of
twenty twenty two. I knew that I
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could never go back to work again, knowing everything that I knew that Yoga
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Nan Depittment had done before on and
after January six, I could never work
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for her again knowing what I knew. Was there any any consequence for Miss
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Pittman and her failure? It appears
to be a failure of duty. Here
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it was more than a failure of
duty. She had intail that we needed
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on actually needed the intail before January
six. She had the intail. She
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got the intail sometime late December of
twenty twenty one. Of the main focus
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or the main report that she had
was an intail report, and it was
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numbered twenty one t D one fifty
nine and it basically led laid out what
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was going to occur on January sixth. She had it and she sat on
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it, and she didn't give it
to Chief's Son, who was the actual
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chief of the Capital Police during that
time, or the other assistant, which
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was her counterpart, assistant, Chief
Chad Thomas. She didn't give it to
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him either. And Chad Thomas was
directly in charge of my bureau, which
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was operations, so we would have
had to prepare the officers for what was
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going to occur that day. She
got the intail. She was supposed to
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give that intail to Chief Son and
Chief Thomas so we could prepare for January
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six and she didn't do it.
Who gave her the intel? The intail
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report was created from her unit.
She was in charge of I c D.
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That's our intail division. She's in
charge of that. They go out
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to get the intel, gathered the
intelligence, they put it on the report,
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and they send it to her.
She got the report and she didn't
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send it out to anybody. Else
from her unit. Now, the people
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who created and would have been responsible
for gathering the intail, they can't just
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send it out of her bureau,
but our permission, she has to do
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that, and she didn't do it
well. And this is important for people
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to understand the strength adherence to chain
of command right correct. So here it
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is, she has the information the
latter part of December. At any point
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from that that day, where now
we're three years down the road, was
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anybody able to find out who told
her not to distribute that information or was
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that a unilateral decision on her part. She has never been asked that question
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publicly as of yet, and she
hasn't even been in front of a congressional
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hearing to be go ahead. Yeah, she's been in multiple in front of
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multiple congressional hearings, but that wasn't
the question that was asked with her in
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Some people would say the the committees
that she was that she came before were
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pretty friendly to her, so she
was never really asked to tough questions.
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Well, and that was the thing, and I mentioned this in the opening
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TK that there was such a spirit
within Congress of just you know, I
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know, extreme glory and honor to
all Capitol police, that is, if
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they did everything correct. I mean
even to the point where you have a
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Capitol police officer shoots and kills a
civilian and first of all he's protected,
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and then afterwards he's almost made into
a hero. Well, I know a
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lot of people have difference of opinion
as it relates to the shooting, and
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what I've always said, I'm not
going to be able to convince you anybody
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else if he should have if he
shouldn't have done it. I see that,
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and I see this repeatedly, and
I think that all of us will
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agree on this. He should have
never been put in that situation in the
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first place, exactly right. If
the intail would have been distributed the even
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the people, the demonstrators who broke
into the Capitol that day, they wouldn't
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have been able to do that.
Their lives were changed because you had Yoga
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n Department. And I routinely call
her a She's an unethical, overly ambitious
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moral commander, is what she was. She had the intail that would have
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that son needed, and had he
been able to use that intail that she
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had, he could have went to
the sergeant at arms on the Senate in
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the House, the House Sergeant at
arms, his name was Paul Irving.
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The Senate Sergeant at Arms was Michael's
Stinger. So he has to get their
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permission to get the National Guards assistance. And from him speaking to both of
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them, the intail didn't support then
that his request for the National Guard.
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That's only because he didn't have the
intail report that Yoga Nan Department sat on,
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so he could he could have gotten
the intail. He could have gotten
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the the intail report from her,
forwarded that intail report over to Paul Irving
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and Mike Stinger, and then he
would have more than likely got more help
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from the National Regard and more law
enforcement officers there on the side. And
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what I routinely have said is this
is that and I know that everybody's going
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to blame the demonstrators for what they
did, and I understand people's position.
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If somebody did something they illegal,
they need to be held accountable exactly.
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So the issue is not that the
demonstrators are being held accountable. They're absolutely
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being held accountable, even some even
unfairly being held on accountable accountable because you
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don't know what yoga and the Pittman
did before and doing January sixth, which
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contributed to their extra charges or could
what she did be a mitigating factor in
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their sentencing and their prosecuteds. I
believe so, but we won't know until
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she is asked the correct questions.
And one of the things that I've said,
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and I was gonna say this a
minute ago, laws are here to
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protect people. That's what you make
laws, and that's what law enforcement officers,
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that's what we do. We were
supposed to protect the demonstrators from themselves
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by having the appropriate show of force
there, and a lot of those people
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would have said, you know what, I'm not going to go any further.
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I'm not going to try to push
past all these natural guard people.
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Some of those people would have went
home. But basically, Yoganana Pittman not
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giving that intail report to Chief Son
and Chad Thomas basically compromise our security to
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the point where it was almost inviting
people in. I was gonna say,
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yeah, exactly. It seems like
the way you look at it, and
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like you said, everybody's gonna have
a different story. We're all seeing it
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from a different angle. But I
remember, as I was seeing it unfold
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I'm looking at this, I'm going
this appears like a bit of a setup,
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and then you start hearing more of
the background your story. Steven Son
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has since written a book called A
Courage under Fire. He talks about being
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out numbered fifty eight to one,
and to support what you're saying, he
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said, he asked for National Guard
three days prior, but it was denied.
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So and we already know that President
Trump had already authorized the use of
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National Guard, because that's one of
the first things that need to happen,
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so they had clearance there. Nancy
Pelosi and Mariel Bowser also had to go
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along and see it. Mariel Bowser
later said she didn't like the optics of
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having the National Guard there in the
situation. So a lot of whether Mariel
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Bowser, I just can't imagine Nancy
Pelosi didn't have the information to understand that
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there were going to be hundreds of
thousands of people, you know, coming
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to the Capitol Building protesting the outcome
of the twenty twenty election. That was
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quite you know, to me,
that was quite obvious. And so now
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you're starting to see this unfold,
and being the experienced police officer that you
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are. You're starting to realize whoa
I mean, the tools that you should
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have, they're not there. You're
trying to communicate with yoga Unda Pittman because
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she's in charge. She's at command
center, right, she is the one
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to authorize all movements and any kind
of decisions that need to be made to
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handle the crowd. Correct. That
is correct, And you are a little
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bit incorrect on one thing you said. You said that it basically it may
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have been a setup. It was
absolutely set up. And and me being
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an experienced law enforcement officer, and
I was a commander my job. I
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was one of the command enders and
charge of security for the certification of the
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election. You know, So I'm
an expert in my field and I'm great
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at what I do. So I
know what the ramifications are if Yoganana Pittman
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has the type of intelligence that she
has and she sits on it. So
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now I don't know if the average
person that is listening to your broadcast,
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no, but I do know Chief's
son knows you can't withhold that type of
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intelligence without a consequence, and that's
what she did. So we need to
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dive into that. But it even
gets worse though, Bill So if you
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listen to now, this is what
every American needs to do, every single
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American. If you have any doubts
to whether January six was a set up
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or that, just listen to the
radio transmissions, and you need to listen
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to primarily two voices. You need
to listen to my voice. My call
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side was four or five J John. And you need to listen to Yoganana
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Pittman's voice. Her unit was unit
too. You need to listen to all
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the radio transmissions from at the very
least from one o'clock to four o'clock.
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And you listen to my radio transmissions, and you listen to Yoga on the
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Pittman's transmissions. The radio transmissions bill
are public. If anybody needs to know
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if this is a setup, just
listen to the radio transmissions. That's all
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you have to do. Their public. How many times did you request help
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from Yoga the Pittman and she didn't
answer you. I probably begged her for
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assistance, maybe at least five to
seven times at least, and I got
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to a point bill where I got
tired of begging her, and I had
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to make decisions, and I was
angry. And if you listen to the
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radio transmissions. I did make some
snide comments because I was angry that this
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was occurring and you're not helping.
And one of the reasons. Now,
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I don't know if you know this, Bill, but I was the one
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to make the call to evacuate the
Senate. Yes, I was aware of
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this, Yes, exactly, go
ahead, tell our audience. Okay,
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So now the audience may not know
this, but I was the one that
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evacuated the Senate. I ordered the
evacuation at at two twenty eight without authorization
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from your noization. You asked her, You asked her for it, she
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refused to give it. But you
knew that this was starting to become dire,
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that a command decision had to be
made, and you knew when you
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were making that decision that you were
out of the chain of command. And
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the reason too. And people are
going to try to beat up on the
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demonstrators too, But this is the
thing. They were angry. You had
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people who actually believed that the election
was stolen from them, So you know
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that they're angry, So why not
just get the members of Congress out of
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the building to de escalate the situation, to protect the demonstrators from themselves.
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And that's what I did because had
I not done that, that if you
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would have been in the Capitol and
you would have ran into a member of
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Congress, even though like all you
did, you didn't commit any bonds,
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but you bumped into a member of
Carlos. They may have added the terrorism
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enhancement to your charge of unlawful entry
and you just accidentally happened to bump into
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them. The other thing too,
TK, I'd like to get your read
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on this, and that was the
use of force. We've spoken with several
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use of force experts and said that
the use of force that day was off
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the charts, it was out of
the books. It was inappropriate. That
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added to the anger of the crowd, because when you go to dispersees,
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you know, you're an expert in
this, you know better than I do,
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certainly, And I'm only repeating information
reports that I've gotten from other experts.
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They said that whenever you send off
canisters or rubber bullets, there's always
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to the ground, it's to the
feet, it's never to the upper body
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or the heads of the demonstrators.
And what happened repeatedly was these shelves were
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being aimed and targeted at the heads
or chests of people, and we know
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two people had heart attacks there.
But they said that clearly, these experts
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in use of force said that if
you if you you know, they determined
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this over experience, that you incite
the crowd by by hurting them, by
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by aiming at their chest and their
head and doing damage, you do not
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disperse because the objective of use of
force is to disperse the crowd, and
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they did just the opposite. They
actually incited the crowd. Is what the
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use of experts said. Is that
fair to say from your perspective? You
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know what I will say this.
I will say yes, but let me
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let me add this caveat Okay,
if you want that to happen, all
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you have to do is sit on
the intelligence. Right, yeah, yeah,
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this is going to happen. Now. Had we had the intelligence prior
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back in December one, Pittmany had
it, we would have done what we
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call tabletop exercise. We would have
started to prepare because most of the officers,
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metropolitans and Capitol police had never been
involved in a situation like that where
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there were so many people. Defense
line was broken. Also, when you
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have your command leadership ghost you when
you're begging for help. So the officers
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have never really been in this situation
and build. This is why I consistently
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say the officers and the demonstrators were
all set up. They set this up
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for this to happen, because you
didn't prepare us for a situation like that
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exact, and we would have had
weeks and weeks to prepare for it had
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Yoganan Depittment gave us the intelligence.
So which if you want that to occur,
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you hope you withhold the intelligence.
And that's what occurred. Everybody on
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the ground was set up. And
I'm hoping that I prayed every day almost
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that we get together, the law
enforcement officers and the demonstrators there. We
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get together and let's focus on what
Yoganan depittment because she was the one that
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did this to all of us.
She victimized all of us, and I
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believe she should be the focus of
the everybody that was on the ground at
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day, police and demonstrators exactly.
T K. I do want to scroll.
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I did take down the information on
the gift send go dot com forward
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slash t K. Johnston and we're
scrolling. That explained to our audience We're
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just gonna pause for just a moment
and help you because, in my humble
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opinion, you know, you are
one of the unnoted heroes of what happened
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on January the sixth, and we're
going to get into more detail. But
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for our audience that would like to
help you out, explain, uh,
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you know, the Gifts Send Go
program that you have. You know,
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I'll explain it briefly, and thank
you for putting it on here too.
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For me, I didn't expect that, but thank you very much. I
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said it a friend of mine set
it up because I never wanted to ask
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for any help. I never knew
that. I thought that after I came
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out and started speaking pub about what
really occurred on January six that this would
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be over quickly and I can go
get a regular job be fitting up my
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skills and abilities. But when you
talk about a job like that, there
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are a lot of restrictions that you
can't do can't talk to the media.
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And I didn't want a job like
that because I could not not speak about
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what really occurred on January six because
people are hurting. So I got a
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job moving furniture and setting up table
and chairs for events, which was easy,
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didn't pay much, so I took
a huge pay cut, but I
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didn't care about that because I don't
really care about money. So now this
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has languished on way longer than I
thought, because then I realized that in
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addition to the cup, the setup
that yoga on the pitment can conct it,
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there was a major cover up and
that was led by the current Chief
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of Police, Jay Thomas Major.
So I've been fighting on both ends.
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So if you look at my Twitter
feed, sometime I'm discussing pitment, sometimes
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I'm discuss a major and I'm not
focused on getting a job that I can
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do that would fix my financial situation, because this is what I want to
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do. This is what I dedicated
my life too, is getting J six
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justice for everybody that was agreed on
both sides of this. Well, the
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other thing too, that's hanging in
the balance of all this, TK is
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your first Amendment right, your freedom
of speech. And here you have a
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choice. You can stay employed by
the Capitol Police Department. And here,
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in a sense, you were compelled
to resign your position what less than two
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years from retirement and all benefits,
right, Okay, So you could have
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been a quote unquote good boy,
as they say, and taken one for
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the team, bit your tongue.
But for the sake of our constitution and
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the First Amendment right to make sure
that the whole truth and nothing but is
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put out there, you surrender your
financial security. I mean, our audience
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needs to understand that this I mean
you talk about I mean you know here,
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you've got Steve Sutton, who writes
a book Courage under Fire. You
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are a profile. Encourage you and
of yourself and the story and your family
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that's all involved in this. Yeah, I could write a book, but
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I'm not focused on doing any of
that. There are people that are probably
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in jail that are innocent. There
are people that are in jail even if
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they are guilty of something, they
may have more charges attributed to them.
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So I can't focus on me making
money now. The gifts and gold that
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I set up, well, a
friend of mine set up for me because
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he was like TK. He says, you're only in the second quarter of
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this fight. You know, I
didn't expect it to go this long,
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and he said, you need funds. So he told me that this is
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basically what I had to do,
and he was right. Because I was
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you know, I looked at my
thank God, thank god your friends to
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yeah, no question, and then
he got me on the right track.
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And then I was working a security
job on the weekend. So because of
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the gifts and go that I set
up, I didn't have to work every
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single weekend anymore. And it got
me time to do a lot of J
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six's work, and I got a
lot of accomplish I got a lot accomplished.
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I've done a lot of interviews,
so I got some stuff that you
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care of, you know so,
and it is because of the community,
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and I appreciate it. Well,
I want you to know we honor you,
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We honor your courage to come on
the show to tell your story because
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this is so important because we know
the information that we're getting from the government.
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It is one sided. It is
a narrative. I mean, even
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to the point, as you know, the J six Committee that spent a
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lot of the people's money to investigate
what happened in January sixth, and they
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were told before they disbanded to hold
onto all the evidence. And these scoundrels,
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you know, Bleach, bet you
know, they did a Hillary Clinton.
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They got rid of all the evidence, all the information that we the
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people paid for. They destroyed it
so that the incoming new majority of the
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Republican Party would no longer have access
and all the basis and background information of
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everything that they had conducted in the
previous months. I can tell you this.
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They didn't delete anything from me because
they never interviewed me. They never
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interviewed me. I never got to
testify. Why why do you think that
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they didn't interview you? Because they
knew what I was going to say.
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They knew that the narrative because I
called. Now, I don't know if
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you know about this bill, but
I knew it was Yogan on the Pittman's
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fault immediately, and I called on
January knife to report it. I was
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looking for FBI contact, so I
called a friend of mine, Senator Patrick
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Lahire Vermont, and I told him
what Yogan on the Pittman and what she
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was doing. And an hour after
I made the call to him because I
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was because when I called him,
I just wanted the FBI contact and let
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them know that this is not what
it looks like, you know, because
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she literally let this happen. And
I told Senator Lady she was gonna let
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everybody die that day. She wasn't
going to help anybody. And when I
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say that, it would have been
I did it for. I did it
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for the officers, demonstrators and the
members of Congress. Told him what she
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was doing, and then he said
he was going to give me an FBI
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contact or he's going to call his
chief of staff. We humped the phone.
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An hour later, the Capitol Police
called me and told me I was
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suspended. So I found out later
that Pittman had already known everything and she
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suspended me, so they knew I
didn't help you. I mean he could
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have. He could have put you
under you know, a whistle blower status,
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couldn't have I don't know exactly what
he could have done because the whistle
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blower protections for Capitol Police officers are
extremely poor. And with Jay Thomas Manger,
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who was the current chief, he
basically he's not allowing Capitol Police officers
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to be covered under the Whistleblow Protection
Act, so they can't go out and
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speak without fear of retaliation. So
that's what they're doing, right. So
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you got thrown under the bus real
quick. Uh and uh, and you
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were put on suspension, suspension for
seventeen months. Was that without pay or
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with pay? It was with pay, but obviously no overtime. I had
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to stay in the house. I
couldn't leave my house from the hours of
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eight to four. I couldn't have
a minute. You had to stay in
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the house. Your arrest. I
was on the house. It's basically effectively
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a house arrest. I couldn't step
off my property. I couldn't go for
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a jog in my neighborhood. After
sixteen months, they did give me permission
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to go for a run in my
neighborhood. After sixteen months, Yeah,
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I went ats but and I was
so stressed. During this particular time,
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I was checking my mail one day
and I dropped the mail came out.
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Was a windy day, so the
mail came out of my mailbox and went
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into the street. And I didn't
know if I could go pick it up.
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What I would call him the Capitol
police first. I was that because
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I knew what they were going to
do to me. So I so I
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literally looked at the mail and tried
to make a decision. Should I pick
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the mail up or should I call
the Capitol police first? Because I would
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have to step into the street.
To get my mail. So did they
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have your home jail fence, so
to speak to where they would have known
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that if you stepped over a barrier. No, they wouldn't have known that.
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But my mentor like, because I
was suspended so long, not knowing
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what they were going to do,
but knowing that they were going to crush
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me, I was I didn't want
to make my situation worse if they would
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had a camera. They were looking
at me because they said, you stepped
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off your property. We told you
not to step off the property. You
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are now suspended and fired, you
know, suspended without pay, waiting for
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termination. So I said, I'm
not taking any chances. But I said,
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you know what, I gotta get
my mail. I ran got my
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mail. Worried from the few days
call. My attorney told my attorney that
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I stepped off. My attorney probably
thought what I was nuts, But I
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was stressed because can you can you
say paranoid? Understandably paranoid paranois because I
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couldn't understand after everything that I did, that they I evacuated this senate,
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I evacuated the house. I laid
those evacuations. My officers had to do
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the work, but I instructed them
over the radio. Yeah, all,
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yeah, all this is on radio
transmissions. Like I don't know if you
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had a chance to listen to it, but if you listen to it,
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because a lot of people probably say, I'm not going to listen to it
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because it's a way because we're trying
to attack of demonstrators. No, don't
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listen for the officers' reactions. Listen
to what leadership did specifically unit to.
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Just listen to the radio transmissions from
one to three to four. And if
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you can't see that with the colonel
January sixth was a setup, then you
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have to be deaf. Just listen
to the radio transmissions exactly. Well,
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TK, when you when they suspended
you for seventeen months, did they say
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right off the bat it was seventeen
months or was it, well, six
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months, where we're going to do
in another six months? How did they
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determine seventeen months? Well, I
get it just worked out that way due
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to various reasons. I won't get
into everything, but part of it was
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I was under criminal investigation for wearing
a mega hat. So I don't know
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if you know about the megahat situation. Now we've got we've got a picture
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of you with the magahat and uh
and of course the picture of the maga
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hat as well. And people need
to hear the story of how that magahat,
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you know, in a sense,
probably saved your life, allowed you
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to have access to save the lives
of fellow officers that were trapped. Yes,
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and and doing that interaction, I
was criminally investigated because two of the
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people who helped me get up those
steps and back down were oathkeepers and I
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had never even heard of an keeper
before. Jane were six and then yeah,
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and then and so now we know
what the oath keepers were because of
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basically the trial and everything. But
they just wanted to help me get my
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officers who were trapped and some one
of the officers had made a radio transmission
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that they were gassed and mace and
they couldn't move and they were stuck at
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a certain part of that the top
of the capital. Right. Yeah,
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I'm trying. Yeah, there's there's
some stuff that I can't talk about when
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it comes to that, so but
more becoming out later. But those two
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men helped me get up the steps, give me all. These are the
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two oath keepers that helped that help
you they made away. They could make
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a way in the crowd because the
people knew the oath keepers were friendly and
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they were supporting you to get you
know, to liberate these officers who were
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trapped up there. Right and along
the way. Uh, one of the
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people put some Maga hat on your
head, and that kind of gave you
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a little bit of cover, didn't
that well. I got the Mega hat.
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I tried to get the officers out
twice. The first time I was
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unsuccessful, and then the second time
I was able to get him with the
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help of those two o keepers.
So on the first trip when I went,
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when I went up and I went
back down, on the way back
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down, somebody reached over and stuck
a Mega hat on my head. I
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didn't know what he was doing.
And then he put the Mega hat on
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my head and I asked him if
I could keep it, but he wanted
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the hat back, and another person
in the crowd was listening and he said,
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when you can have my hat if
this guy wants his bat. So
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I can't remember which hat I ended
up with, but I ended up with
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one of those hats. And then
when I got to the bottom of the
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steps, maybe twenty minutes later.
It's when I kept a hat on while
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I was standing out there, and
then obviously you see a block officer with
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a mega hat on. It made
an interesting commerce. So that who some
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people came up to me and started
talking to me, and I told him
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what I needed, and then we
went up there and got the offices down.
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Let me ask you if we can
rewind for just a moment. You
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know here January sixth, you see
all this unfolding, You say, wow,
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this is a trap. This is
set up. What happened when the
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Capitol came under attack with BLM and
Antifa? What was it eight months earlier?
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Was there a prequel? Was there
advanced notice? Was their planning?
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Uh? You know? And information
that was given to Capitol police about the
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potential disruption and protest of BLM and
Antifa? Well, actually the be it
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the Black Lives Matter that was at
the White House, that wasn't at the
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Capitol. Well but okay, but
still in the vicinity regard right, because
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they were there at what Lafayette Square
across the street from the Capitol, tried
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to burn down the church. As
we know, President Trump had to be
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secure. But but regards I mean
you've got, uh, you've got a
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government, a federal you know,
the White House in this bitter case being
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put under siege. Did you were
you given or were you responsible at all
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in dealing with that that protest?
No, not at all, because you're
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you're you're confined to the Capitol.
Uh, solely one hundred percent right to
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the Capitol, the Capitol buildings like
we have the Library, Congress, we
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have the the the Senate buildings and
the House of Representatives buildings, so that
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that's my expanded control idea. Was
there any intel, any after action report
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of what happened with BLM and ANTIFA
shared with Capital police? Because I got
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I mean, you're you're not that
far away in the Capitol building in the
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White House and you're talking about security. Was there any discussion and shared information
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between you know, between Capitol Police
and and uh, you know, you
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know, the police Department of DC. Not to my knowledge, But that
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wouldn't have went to me. That
would have went more likely to Yoga on
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the Pittman. That would have went
to her unit, maybe Chad Thomas unit.
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But no, that wouldn't it wouldn't
have made it to me. Well,
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based on your experience, do you
think that would have been useful as
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far as just training purposes, Understanding
any information, all of it would have
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been useful, you know, especially
the intel saying that what was going to
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actually occur at the Capitol would have
been absolutely useful. And we couldn't even
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get that. So, you know, expecting Pittman to give us, you
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know, intel and talk to us
about Antifa and Black Lives Matter when she
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wouldn't even tell us what was going
to happen at our own building that she
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knew. No, Yeah, exactly. Well, we're talking about the former
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Capitol Police officer T. K.
Johnson sharing the truth, the whole truth,
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and nothing but what really happened on
January sixth, and it is the
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truth and his commitment to his command
in securing the Capitol Building and those in
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it, Senators and congressman and congresswomen. He ends up being suspended, He
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is no longer part of the Capitol
Police. Sadly, you think of somebody
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with this kind of experience and talent
and to not have him be a part
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of the operation to this day,
I believe, in my humble opinion,
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is a great loss to our country
and the Capitol Police force Now let's go
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back and revisit for a moment.
Here. You shared very quickly when it
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came down for you to make a
decision, You're you're on comms trying to
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get yoganand to Pittman to make a
decision to clear, to clear the Senate,
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to clear Congress, Get the Congressman, get the senators, get them
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to safety. Because you know,
even as Stephen Sun said and these numbers,
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I had not heard the numbers fifty
eight to one. I know you've
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said before that you were greatly out
manned that I guess the bottom line is
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if this was truly an insurrection,
uh you you, and I say you,
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the Capitol police would have been easily
outgunned and overwhelmed. And no,
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this was not an insurrection. I've
said this multiple times. Now. I
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would have said, like I did, say it was an insurrection like in
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twenty twenty one, but I started
finding out more information, and people have
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to be able to change their position
when presented new facts, and in fact,
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just don't present that this was just
basically a cool set up by yoga
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non depittment. Now, she did
it because I believe she did it because
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she wanted Son fired as the chief
of police, and she wanted to gain
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favor from Nancy Pelosi's why she did
it. So now, yeah, So
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all you have to do, I
would say, if if anybody really wants
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to know would have really occurred on
January sixth, have to listen to the
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radio transmissions first and then work your
way back and then find out what intail
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she had before January six That's all
you have to do. Once you listen
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to the radio transmissions, which the
committees that were in twenty twenty one and
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twenty twenty two, never focus on
those radio transmissions of yeah, and if
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you had, all you have to
do is get somebody who doesn't have a
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vested interests. They can be Republican, the Democrat, it doesn't matter,
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doesn't have a vested interest in the
outcome of the investigation, to just to
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look at it, listen to the
radio transmissions, ask certain questions, and
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then you'll easily know because and I
said this multiple times, if the amount
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of people that were there, if
they wanted to take over the capital,
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we couldn't have stopped them. Right
now, even the movie three hundred,
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I know you heard of that movie
three hundred and those and I don't know.
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If you know, all those people
died, they all died in that
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movie. So people, it wasn't
like they beat up ten thousand people.
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They die, yes, But and
and the thing was they were just trying
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to hold like that ridge for a
certain amount of time. They knew they
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were going to die, but they
wanted to hold a ridge for a certain
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amount of time. And we were
outnumbered. And the thing was we weren't
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protecting a ridge. They could have
came in, and they did come in
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on all sides of the building.
We were surrounded fairly quickly if they wanted
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to get in. Now, obviously
we know there were some violence that occurred
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on January sixth, but if they
wanted to take over and kill all the
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members of Congress, we couldn't have
stopped them if that was the purpose of
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everybody there. So when you when
people get charged, they should only be
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charged with what they did. The
problem that you had, Bill, is
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that everybody that is getting arrested for
January six when they at the defense table,
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the jury is looking at all of
them as the insurrectionists. Right.
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That's that's the difficult part they want
to get because it's the narrative it's the
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narratives out there. I mean,
you use you use a professional multi media
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producer director who cherry picks information and
clips you know, from January sixth,
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and presents it in the most negative
of light to be consistent with what they
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wanted us to know. This is
the thing that we say repeatedly on the
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show. TK and I asked the
question, who told you? Who told
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you it was an insurrection? Do
you know that? And I challenge our
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audience and said, look, even
like here, you and I are talking,
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and you're answering questions, and you're
being very forthright, and I'm grateful
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for your honesty and transparency on this, But I caution our audience all the
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time. I said, look at
don't just take my word for it.
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Don't just take tk's word for it. He's told you several times where to
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go and listen for some information and
see if your journey into fact finding will
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either reaffirm or deny what he's presented
to you. Is that fair to say?
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That's perfect to say, just I'm
not asking anybody to believe me.
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All I'm asking you to do is
do your own research. All you have
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to do is listen to the radio
transmissions and listened for unit two and that's
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Yoga non depittment, and listen for
me for oh five, Jay John,
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and then you make the determination if
what I did deserve to be suspended for
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seventeen months and basically constructively fired.
But at the end of the day,
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I never was going to go back
because I could never work for Yoga on
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depittment knowing what she did on that
day alone. When I found out after
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I resigned was even worse, and
all the people who came out, the
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whistleblowers who came to speak against Yogan
on the pittment and how she, along
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with Jay Thomas Major, crushed him. I'm glad I left. How how
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many years did you work under Yoga
underpittment? She was there for twenty two
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years. I was there for twenty
three. She was my direct commander one
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time. While I was there,
I was a sergeant at the Capitol.
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She was a captain and now as
assistant chief. If I'm at in her
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bureau, I don't work directly for
her, but she's technically one of my
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bosses, you know. But but
she's been over me, probably for I
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think she got promoted around two thousand
and eight two thousand and nine to lieutenant
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or something like that. So from
two thousand and nine to two thousand and
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twenty one, did you suspect that
there was a breakdown in leadership? Did
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you observe something that would cause you
to be cautious prior to January the sixth?
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Nothing she put Dick, They didn't
put anything out to operations. Now,
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I'm an operation commander at the Capitol, and you don't tell me what's
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going to occur on January sixth when
you knew exactly who who invited who opened
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the doors to the Capitol building and
invited who authorized those officers too? Because
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we see it on video where they're
waving, uh, you know, the
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protesters into the building. Who authorized
that? Well, now a lot of
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now I don't know. You have
to look at the times that this occurred
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at the ding like I would have
to go back and see the times and
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actually see the video. But a
lot of times when they were when people
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were just basically allowed into the building, the Capitol had already been evacuated of
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members of Congress, on Senator and
the House. And this is what I
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believe. Unless somebody shows me something
that that counters that and we knew that
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it was the officers. And I
haven't spoken to the officers, and I
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haven't spoken to many officers since I
left because I never really went back.
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I never went back to work again. But it tk you got friends there,
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you got you got brothers in arms. I mean to cut yourself off
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and not have that that connection that
to that's got to be personally painful.
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Well, yeah, you know my
wife worked there too. I met my
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wife did we got married, So
you know, my wife was there.
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And it's funny because they said all
hands on deck. My wife was an
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officer there was at home and she
wasn't sick of anything. They just told
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her to stay home and basically relaxed. So it was not all hands on
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deck. You should have had everybody
there that wasn't done. There was so
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much that needed to occur on January
sixth, but didn't happen. What what's
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happened? Anything happened adversely to your
wife because of your situation. She was
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old enough to retire. I wasn't
there. My wife's a little bit older
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than I am, so she got
to retire and I could not. She
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had her twenty five years and she
left, I see okay, so she
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knew that this was a bad situation, and I imagine heartbroken to see what
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they had done to her husband.
We've got about five minutes left here,
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TK, and I want to give
you an opportunity to kind of summarize your
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story, remind everybody about Gifts and
Go how we can come along, shide
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and support you and your family.
I don't be brief with the Gifts and
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Goal. If you can help help, it keeps me in the fight,
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keeps me on Twitter, it keeps
me doing interviews. I don't have to
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work so much. I can take
off from my part time job which I
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work security on the weekends, and
my Gifts and Goal has helped me not
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do that. So I can do
interviews and still spend a little bit of
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time with the family. And I
don't have to focus so much on trying
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to get a new job and to
be silenced in anyway, because I don't
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want that. Now. I want
to summarize this too, and I want
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to break basically make it as simple
as I can. Jane Wary sixth,
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there's two fundamental principles about January six
Number One, you had the the setup
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of what occurred on that day that
was led by Yoga Nan, the Pittman
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you had, you had the cover
up which is occurring now that is led
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by Chief Jay Thomas Major. He
wants the Jay six narrative to remain the
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same for political purposes because he and
his wife are heavily involved in the Democratic
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Party and he needs for the narrative
to stay exactly what it is to ensure
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that Donald Trump doesn't get elected and
re elected in twenty twenty four. So
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that is his primary purpose and he
has to do that by protecting Yoga Na
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depittment. And I go into great
detail on Twitter, So if anybody wants
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to follow me on Twitter, please
do and you'll be getting updates and I
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give ten bits of information. So
you need to know that the Pittman,
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that Pittman was the cause she was
to set up and Jay Thomas Manger is
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the cover up. That's what you
need to know. You need to know
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that the radio transmissions are public and
you need to listen to those radio transmissions.
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Unit two which is Yoganan depittment,
Unit four or five Jay John which
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is me. Listen to that,
and then you have to look at and
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listen to some of the congressional inherents
that Yoganana pittmand specifically when it comes to
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the intelligence that she did not ask
to Chief Major, I'm sorry, Chief,
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to Chief Thomas and to Chief Son. Now you're gonna listen to if
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you listen to the congressional testimony that
she gave in February, she's going to
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say that she did give it,
but that wasn't true and she never went
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back to correct the record. That
needs to occur. And now at the
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end of the day, and the
audience needs to know this, The J
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six community needs to know this that
they're not going to be able to cover
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this up forever. They just need
to cover it up and keep everything concealed
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as much as they can until after
twenty twenty four. Then they can start
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letting some stuff go. But the
election, the presidential election will already be
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over. So if you keep the
narrative the same, then obviously you're going
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to get if you're going to vote
Biden. If you're Ardent Biden support,
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you're voting Biden. If you're Art
Trump supporter, you're going to vote for
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Trump. But if you're in the
middle, those are the votes that Jay
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Thomas Major wants to go to Biden
and how people just repeatedly that the United
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States Capitol Police should not be used
as a democratic weapon against former President Donald
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Day Trump used to remain neutral,
period, They need to be neutral.
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One final question here where Steve Sun
and all this Steve Sun is still a
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process and everything. And I think
that if you listen to his last interview
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that he did on on Tucker on
X and he did the he did,
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he gave congressional testimony, and he's
starting to probably see that Pittman had a
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bigger I guess role and what occurred
in gaining where six So, like you
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said, the truth is finding its
way out. Uh TK, we got
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to leave it there. I cannot
thank you enough for your courage, for
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your support of the US Constitution.
You're a fellow constitutionalist, and I gotta
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tell you I love you for that, because this is what we need.
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We need patriots that aren't about a
party, but they're about the American idea,
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the American idea that was born out
of our Declaration of Independence and our
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US Constitution. And clearly there are
forces they want to do everything they can
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to topple our rights as citizens as
enumerated in our US Constitution. Again,
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I remind our audience to uh,
you know, go to the to the
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campaign to support TK. Remind them
of the website again TK, where they
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can go. You can go look
at my profile on Twitter. You can
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find me. I think my name
is well, you can see my name
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right there, Tarik Johnson. You
can put that in and you can find
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my profile and you'll be able to
find my gifts and go there. But
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more importantly, follow me and you
will be getting up to date information on
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the J six cover up because that's
primarily what I'm focusing on. If you
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look at my most recent tweets,
I'm focusing on Jay Thomas Major because I
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know what he's doing and I know
why he's doing it. So that's my
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focus exactly. T K. Thank
you, God speed, my friend,
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take care of Thanks for having me, Bill, take you out it Our
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thanks to t K Johnson for being
with us today. For more information and
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to be a part of this mighty
movement to return to God and to save
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our country. Go to Bill Martinezshow
dot com. May God bless you and
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keep you and make his face shine
upon you. May he be gracious unto
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you and give you peace. Thank
you so much for being with us.
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Have a great day.
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Well, good to have you with us.
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I'm Bill Martinez, and I'm excited
to be sharing with you our next
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guest, former Capitol Police officer Tarret
Johnson T K. Johnson, Here to
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tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but what really happened on
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January sixth. I know, I
understand, you know, we've had congressional
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hearings, there's been, you know, so much reported about January sixth,
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But I can tell you the majority
of Americans are still scratching their head,
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going, wait a minute, we're
being worked here. We're not being told
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the whole truth. There's something seems
to be missing from this controlled narrative.
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And I will say this upfront.
Yes, there were some heroes on January
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sixth, and let's say on both
sides, okay, but I think that
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there are some heroes that were not
acknowledged. And after you hear T.
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K. Johnson's story, you'll understand
what I'm referring to. T K.
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Johnson was twenty two year veteran on
the Capitol. He'll force he considers himself
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to be an expert in the field. He will tell you he worked hard
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through all of certifications to learn what
to do and how to responsibly step up
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and handle his position on January sixth
as the on site commander who was in
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charge of securing the certification of the
twenty twenty presidential election. Despite please for
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help on January sixth, Johnson said
he did not hear anything, not even
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from the Capitol Police Chief Assistant Yogananda
Pittman, who allegedly kept vital information about
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the protest from him. Let's welcome
Tarik Johnson t K. Johnson to the
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show. TK. Welcome to the
show. Good to have you with us.
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Thank you for having me on,
Bill, I appreciate it very much.
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Well, I'll tell you our audience
is one that believes in the truth,
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the whole truth, and nothing.
But that's what this show is all
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about. So we're grateful to you
to come on, to have the courage
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to tell your story because we know
what happens in Washington, DC. The
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theme is it must stay in Washington, DC, and it must be controlled
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by those who control the narrative.
If somebody gets outside of that line,
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then you feel the full pressure of
the forces that wants you to comport correct.
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That is absolutely correct. So let's
let's go back prior to January the
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sixth. I mean, here you
are, you know what you're doing.
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Explain to our audience your background.
I said that you know because I've heard
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you say time and again in other
shows that you consider yourself an expert,
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and I believe that you are an
expert. You speak with conviction, you
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speak with experience. Explain to our
audience why you were the one that needed
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to be there in the place that
you were at on January sixth. Okay,
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let me start with giving the audience
a little bit about my background.
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Okay, I was actually on the
police department for twenty three and a half
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years at the time I resigned in
September of twenty twenty two. I started
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out as a regular officer in the
rank of private and I started March nineteen
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ninety nine is when I started,
and I took a test to get promoted
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to special Agent. I was primarily
assigned to Senator Patrick lay Here of Vermont,
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and I did that for approximately two
years. And then I took the
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Sergeant's exam and I passed the Sergeant's
exam the first time I took it.
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Got promoted to sergeant in December of
two thousand and four. And I worked
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pretty much every division on every section
on the Capitol Hill other than the Library
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Congress. In my time as a
sergeant. I won Office of the Year
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in two thousand and twelve. You
can probably google that google my name.
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There was a tunnel with bus fire
in the D Street Tonnel and twenty twelve
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and I had to help evacuate officer
officers. I had the help of officers
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to evacuate people out of that tunnel. When we got them out safely,
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and me and along with two other
officers, we were awarded the Office of
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the Year. In two twelve,
I took the Lieutenants Exam and I was
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promoted to lieutenant in June of twenty
eighteen, and I was assigned to the
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Capitol Division. And I worked the
Capitol Division from Junior twenty eighteen until January
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sixth of twenty twenty one, the
time of the County of the electorial votes.
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That was my actual last day of
working at the Capital Pliceow and I
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was suspended for approximately seventeen months.
And when I returned to work, I
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processed in during their first week,
I went out on lead, and then
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I processed out after about two months
of being on lead, and I left
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the department on September twenty third of
twenty twenty two. I knew that I
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could never go back to work again, knowing everything that I knew that Yoga
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Nan Depittment had done before on and
after January six, I could never work
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for her again knowing what I knew. Was there any any consequence for Miss
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Pittman and her failure? It appears
to be a failure of duty. Here
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it was more than a failure of
duty. She had intail that we needed
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on actually needed the intail before January
six. She had the intail. She
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got the intail sometime late December of
twenty twenty one. Of the main focus
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or the main report that she had
was an intail report, and it was
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numbered twenty one t D one fifty
nine and it basically led laid out what
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was going to occur on January sixth. She had it and she sat on
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it, and she didn't give it
to Chief's Son, who was the actual
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chief of the Capital Police during that
time, or the other assistant, which
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was her counterpart, assistant, Chief
Chad Thomas. She didn't give it to
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him either. And Chad Thomas was
directly in charge of my bureau, which
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was operations, so we would have
had to prepare the officers for what was
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going to occur that day. She
got the intail. She was supposed to
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give that intail to Chief Son and
Chief Thomas so we could prepare for January
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six and she didn't do it.
Who gave her the intel? The intail
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report was created from her unit.
She was in charge of I c D.
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That's our intail division. She's in
charge of that. They go out
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to get the intel, gathered the
intelligence, they put it on the report,
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and they send it to her.
She got the report and she didn't
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send it out to anybody. Else
from her unit. Now, the people
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who created and would have been responsible
for gathering the intail, they can't just
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send it out of her bureau,
but our permission, she has to do
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that, and she didn't do it
well. And this is important for people
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to understand the strength adherence to chain
of command right correct. So here it
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is, she has the information the
latter part of December. At any point
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from that that day, where now
we're three years down the road, was
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anybody able to find out who told
her not to distribute that information or was
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that a unilateral decision on her part. She has never been asked that question
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publicly as of yet, and she
hasn't even been in front of a congressional
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hearing to be go ahead. Yeah, she's been in multiple in front of
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multiple congressional hearings, but that wasn't
the question that was asked with her in
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Some people would say the the committees
that she was that she came before were
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pretty friendly to her, so she
was never really asked to tough questions.
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Well, and that was the thing, and I mentioned this in the opening
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TK that there was such a spirit
within Congress of just you know, I
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know, extreme glory and honor to
all Capitol police, that is, if
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they did everything correct. I mean
even to the point where you have a
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Capitol police officer shoots and kills a
civilian and first of all he's protected,
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and then afterwards he's almost made into
a hero. Well, I know a
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lot of people have difference of opinion
as it relates to the shooting, and
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what I've always said, I'm not
going to be able to convince you anybody
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else if he should have if he
shouldn't have done it. I see that,
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and I see this repeatedly, and
I think that all of us will
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agree on this. He should have
never been put in that situation in the
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first place, exactly right. If
the intail would have been distributed the even
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the people, the demonstrators who broke
into the Capitol that day, they wouldn't
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have been able to do that.
Their lives were changed because you had Yoga
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n Department. And I routinely call
her a She's an unethical, overly ambitious
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moral commander, is what she was. She had the intail that would have
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that son needed, and had he
been able to use that intail that she
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had, he could have went to
the sergeant at arms on the Senate in
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the House, the House Sergeant at
arms, his name was Paul Irving.
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The Senate Sergeant at Arms was Michael's
Stinger. So he has to get their
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permission to get the National Guards assistance. And from him speaking to both of
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them, the intail didn't support then
that his request for the National Guard.
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That's only because he didn't have the
intail report that Yoga Nan Department sat on,
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so he could he could have gotten
the intail. He could have gotten
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the the intail report from her,
forwarded that intail report over to Paul Irving
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and Mike Stinger, and then he
would have more than likely got more help
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from the National Regard and more law
enforcement officers there on the side. And
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what I routinely have said is this
is that and I know that everybody's going
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to blame the demonstrators for what they
did, and I understand people's position.
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If somebody did something they illegal,
they need to be held accountable exactly.
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So the issue is not that the
demonstrators are being held accountable. They're absolutely
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being held accountable, even some even
unfairly being held on accountable accountable because you
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don't know what yoga and the Pittman
did before and doing January sixth, which
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contributed to their extra charges or could
what she did be a mitigating factor in
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their sentencing and their prosecuteds. I
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she is asked the correct questions.
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and I was gonna say this a
minute ago, laws are here to
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protect people. That's what you make
laws, and that's what law enforcement officers,
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that's what we do. We were
supposed to protect the demonstrators from themselves
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by having the appropriate show of force
there, and a lot of those people
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would have said, you know what, I'm not going to go any further.
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I'm not going to try to push
past all these natural guard people.
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Some of those people would have went
home. But basically, Yoganana Pittman not
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giving that intail report to Chief Son
and Chad Thomas basically compromise our security to
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the point where it was almost inviting
people in. I was gonna say,
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yeah, exactly. It seems like
the way you look at it, and
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like you said, everybody's gonna have
a different story. We're all seeing it
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from a different angle. But I
remember, as I was seeing it unfold
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I'm looking at this, I'm going
this appears like a bit of a setup,
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and then you start hearing more of
the background your story. Steven Son
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has since written a book called A
Courage under Fire. He talks about being
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out numbered fifty eight to one,
and to support what you're saying, he
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said, he asked for National Guard
three days prior, but it was denied.
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So and we already know that President
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National Guard, because that's one of
the first things that need to happen,
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so they had clearance there. Nancy
Pelosi and Mariel Bowser also had to go
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along and see it. Mariel Bowser
later said she didn't like the optics of
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having the National Guard there in the
situation. So a lot of whether Mariel
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Bowser, I just can't imagine Nancy
Pelosi didn't have the information to understand that
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there were going to be hundreds of
thousands of people, you know, coming
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to the Capitol Building protesting the outcome
of the twenty twenty election. That was
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quite you know, to me,
that was quite obvious. And so now
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you're starting to see this unfold,
and being the experienced police officer that you
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are. You're starting to realize whoa
I mean, the tools that you should
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have, they're not there. You're
trying to communicate with yoga Unda Pittman because
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she's in charge. She's at command
center, right, she is the one
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to authorize all movements and any kind
of decisions that need to be made to
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handle the crowd. Correct. That
is correct, And you are a little
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bit incorrect on one thing you said. You said that it basically it may
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have been a setup. It was
absolutely set up. And and me being
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an experienced law enforcement officer, and
I was a commander my job. I
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was one of the command enders and
charge of security for the certification of the
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election. You know, So I'm
an expert in my field and I'm great
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at what I do. So I
know what the ramifications are if Yoganana Pittman
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has the type of intelligence that she
has and she sits on it. So
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now I don't know if the average
person that is listening to your broadcast,
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no, but I do know Chief's
son knows you can't withhold that type of
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intelligence without a consequence, and that's
what she did. So we need to
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dive into that. But it even
gets worse though, Bill So if you
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listen to now, this is what
every American needs to do, every single
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American. If you have any doubts
to whether January six was a set up
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or that, just listen to the
radio transmissions, and you need to listen
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to primarily two voices. You need
to listen to my voice. My call
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side was four or five J John. And you need to listen to Yoganana
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Pittman's voice. Her unit was unit
too. You need to listen to all
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the radio transmissions from at the very
least from one o'clock to four o'clock.
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And you listen to my radio transmissions, and you listen to Yoga on the
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Pittman's transmissions. The radio transmissions bill
are public. If anybody needs to know
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if this is a setup, just
listen to the radio transmissions. That's all
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you have to do. Their public. How many times did you request help
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from Yoga the Pittman and she didn't
answer you. I probably begged her for
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assistance, maybe at least five to
seven times at least, and I got
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to a point bill where I got
tired of begging her, and I had
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to make decisions, and I was
angry. And if you listen to the
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radio transmissions. I did make some
snide comments because I was angry that this
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was occurring and you're not helping.
And one of the reasons. Now,
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I don't know if you know this, Bill, but I was the one
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to make the call to evacuate the
Senate. Yes, I was aware of
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this, Yes, exactly, go
ahead, tell our audience. Okay,
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So now the audience may not know
this, but I was the one that
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evacuated the Senate. I ordered the
evacuation at at two twenty eight without authorization
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from your noization. You asked her, You asked her for it, she
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refused to give it. But you
knew that this was starting to become dire,
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that a command decision had to be
made, and you knew when you
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were making that decision that you were
out of the chain of command. And
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the reason too. And people are
going to try to beat up on the
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demonstrators too, But this is the
thing. They were angry. You had
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people who actually believed that the election
was stolen from them, So you know
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that they're angry, So why not
just get the members of Congress out of
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the building to de escalate the situation, to protect the demonstrators from themselves.
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And that's what I did because had
I not done that, that if you
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would have been in the Capitol and
you would have ran into a member of
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Congress, even though like all you
did, you didn't commit any bonds,
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but you bumped into a member of
Carlos. They may have added the terrorism
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enhancement to your charge of unlawful entry
and you just accidentally happened to bump into
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them. The other thing too,
TK, I'd like to get your read
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on this, and that was the
use of force. We've spoken with several
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use of force experts and said that
the use of force that day was off
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the charts, it was out of
the books. It was inappropriate. That
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added to the anger of the crowd, because when you go to dispersees,
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you know, you're an expert in
this, you know better than I do,
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certainly, And I'm only repeating information
reports that I've gotten from other experts.
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They said that whenever you send off
canisters or rubber bullets, there's always
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to the ground, it's to the
feet, it's never to the upper body
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or the heads of the demonstrators.
And what happened repeatedly was these shelves were
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being aimed and targeted at the heads
or chests of people, and we know
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two people had heart attacks there.
But they said that clearly, these experts
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in use of force said that if
you if you you know, they determined
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this over experience, that you incite
the crowd by by hurting them, by
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by aiming at their chest and their
head and doing damage, you do not
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disperse because the objective of use of
force is to disperse the crowd, and
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they did just the opposite. They
actually incited the crowd. Is what the
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use of experts said. Is that
fair to say from your perspective? You
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know what I will say this.
I will say yes, but let me
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let me add this caveat Okay,
if you want that to happen, all
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you have to do is sit on
the intelligence. Right, yeah, yeah,
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this is going to happen. Now. Had we had the intelligence prior
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back in December one, Pittmany had
it, we would have done what we
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call tabletop exercise. We would have
started to prepare because most of the officers,
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metropolitans and Capitol police had never been
involved in a situation like that where
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there were so many people. Defense
line was broken. Also, when you
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have your command leadership ghost you when
you're begging for help. So the officers
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have never really been in this situation
and build. This is why I consistently
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say the officers and the demonstrators were
all set up. They set this up
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for this to happen, because you
didn't prepare us for a situation like that
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exact, and we would have had
weeks and weeks to prepare for it had
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Yoganan Depittment gave us the intelligence.
So which if you want that to occur,
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you hope you withhold the intelligence.
And that's what occurred. Everybody on
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the ground was set up. And
I'm hoping that I prayed every day almost
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that we get together, the law
enforcement officers and the demonstrators there. We
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get together and let's focus on what
Yoganan depittment because she was the one that
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did this to all of us.
She victimized all of us, and I
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believe she should be the focus of
the everybody that was on the ground at
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day, police and demonstrators exactly.
T K. I do want to scroll.
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I did take down the information on
the gift send go dot com forward
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slash t K. Johnston and we're
scrolling. That explained to our audience We're
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just gonna pause for just a moment
and help you because, in my humble
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opinion, you know, you are
one of the unnoted heroes of what happened
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on January the sixth, and we're
going to get into more detail. But
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for our audience that would like to
help you out, explain, uh,
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you know, the Gifts Send Go
program that you have. You know,
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I'll explain it briefly, and thank
you for putting it on here too.
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For me, I didn't expect that, but thank you very much. I
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said it a friend of mine set
it up because I never wanted to ask
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for any help. I never knew
that. I thought that after I came
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out and started speaking pub about what
really occurred on January six that this would
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be over quickly and I can go
get a regular job be fitting up my
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skills and abilities. But when you
talk about a job like that, there
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are a lot of restrictions that you
can't do can't talk to the media.
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And I didn't want a job like
that because I could not not speak about
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what really occurred on January six because
people are hurting. So I got a
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job moving furniture and setting up table
and chairs for events, which was easy,
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didn't pay much, so I took
a huge pay cut, but I
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didn't care about that because I don't
really care about money. So now this
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has languished on way longer than I
thought, because then I realized that in
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addition to the cup, the setup
that yoga on the pitment can conct it,
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there was a major cover up and
that was led by the current Chief
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of Police, Jay Thomas Major.
So I've been fighting on both ends.
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So if you look at my Twitter
feed, sometime I'm discussing pitment, sometimes
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I'm discuss a major and I'm not
focused on getting a job that I can
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do that would fix my financial situation, because this is what I want to
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do. This is what I dedicated
my life too, is getting J six
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justice for everybody that was agreed on
both sides of this. Well, the
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other thing too, that's hanging in
the balance of all this, TK is
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your first Amendment right, your freedom
of speech. And here you have a
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choice. You can stay employed by
the Capitol Police Department. And here,
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in a sense, you were compelled
to resign your position what less than two
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years from retirement and all benefits,
right, Okay, So you could have
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been a quote unquote good boy,
as they say, and taken one for
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the team, bit your tongue.
But for the sake of our constitution and
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the First Amendment right to make sure
that the whole truth and nothing but is
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put out there, you surrender your
financial security. I mean, our audience
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needs to understand that this I mean
you talk about I mean you know here,
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you've got Steve Sutton, who writes
a book Courage under Fire. You
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are a profile. Encourage you and
of yourself and the story and your family
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that's all involved in this. Yeah, I could write a book, but
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I'm not focused on doing any of
that. There are people that are probably
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in jail that are innocent. There
are people that are in jail even if
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they are guilty of something, they
may have more charges attributed to them.
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So I can't focus on me making
money now. The gifts and gold that
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I set up, well, a
friend of mine set up for me because
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he was like TK. He says, you're only in the second quarter of
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this fight. You know, I
didn't expect it to go this long,
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and he said, you need funds. So he told me that this is
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basically what I had to do,
and he was right. Because I was
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you know, I looked at my
thank God, thank god your friends to
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yeah, no question, and then
he got me on the right track.
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And then I was working a security
job on the weekend. So because of
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the gifts and go that I set
up, I didn't have to work every
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single weekend anymore. And it got
me time to do a lot of J
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six's work, and I got a
lot of accomplish I got a lot accomplished.
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I've done a lot of interviews,
so I got some stuff that you
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care of, you know so,
and it is because of the community,
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and I appreciate it. Well,
I want you to know we honor you,
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We honor your courage to come on
the show to tell your story because
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this is so important because we know
the information that we're getting from the government.
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It is one sided. It is
a narrative. I mean, even
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to the point, as you know, the J six Committee that spent a
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lot of the people's money to investigate
what happened in January sixth, and they
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were told before they disbanded to hold
onto all the evidence. And these scoundrels,
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you know, Bleach, bet you
know, they did a Hillary Clinton.
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They got rid of all the evidence, all the information that we the
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people paid for. They destroyed it
so that the incoming new majority of the
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Republican Party would no longer have access
and all the basis and background information of
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everything that they had conducted in the
previous months. I can tell you this.
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They didn't delete anything from me because
they never interviewed me. They never
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interviewed me. I never got to
testify. Why why do you think that
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they didn't interview you? Because they
knew what I was going to say.
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They knew that the narrative because I
called. Now, I don't know if
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you know about this bill, but
I knew it was Yogan on the Pittman's
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fault immediately, and I called on
January knife to report it. I was
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looking for FBI contact, so I
called a friend of mine, Senator Patrick
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Lahire Vermont, and I told him
what Yogan on the Pittman and what she
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was doing. And an hour after
I made the call to him because I
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was because when I called him,
I just wanted the FBI contact and let
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them know that this is not what
it looks like, you know, because
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she literally let this happen. And
I told Senator Lady she was gonna let
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everybody die that day. She wasn't
going to help anybody. And when I
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say that, it would have been
I did it for. I did it
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for the officers, demonstrators and the
members of Congress. Told him what she
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was doing, and then he said
he was going to give me an FBI
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contact or he's going to call his
chief of staff. We humped the phone.
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An hour later, the Capitol Police
called me and told me I was
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suspended. So I found out later
that Pittman had already known everything and she
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suspended me, so they knew I
didn't help you. I mean he could
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have. He could have put you
under you know, a whistle blower status,
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couldn't have I don't know exactly what
he could have done because the whistle
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blower protections for Capitol Police officers are
extremely poor. And with Jay Thomas Manger,
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who was the current chief, he
basically he's not allowing Capitol Police officers
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to be covered under the Whistleblow Protection
Act, so they can't go out and
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speak without fear of retaliation. So
that's what they're doing, right. So
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you got thrown under the bus real
quick. Uh and uh, and you
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were put on suspension, suspension for
seventeen months. Was that without pay or
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with pay? It was with pay, but obviously no overtime. I had
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to stay in the house. I
couldn't leave my house from the hours of
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eight to four. I couldn't have
a minute. You had to stay in
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the house. Your arrest. I
was on the house. It's basically effectively
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a house arrest. I couldn't step
off my property. I couldn't go for
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a jog in my neighborhood. After
sixteen months, they did give me permission
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to go for a run in my
neighborhood. After sixteen months, Yeah,
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I went ats but and I was
so stressed. During this particular time,
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I was checking my mail one day
and I dropped the mail came out.
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Was a windy day, so the
mail came out of my mailbox and went
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into the street. And I didn't
know if I could go pick it up.
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What I would call him the Capitol
police first. I was that because
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I knew what they were going to
do to me. So I so I
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literally looked at the mail and tried
to make a decision. Should I pick
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the mail up or should I call
the Capitol police first? Because I would
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have to step into the street.
To get my mail. So did they
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have your home jail fence, so
to speak to where they would have known
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that if you stepped over a barrier. No, they wouldn't have known that.
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But my mentor like, because I
was suspended so long, not knowing
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what they were going to do,
but knowing that they were going to crush
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me, I was I didn't want
to make my situation worse if they would
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had a camera. They were looking
at me because they said, you stepped
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off your property. We told you
not to step off the property. You
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are now suspended and fired, you
know, suspended without pay, waiting for
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termination. So I said, I'm
not taking any chances. But I said,
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you know what, I gotta get
my mail. I ran got my
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mail. Worried from the few days
call. My attorney told my attorney that
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I stepped off. My attorney probably
thought what I was nuts, But I
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was stressed because can you can you
say paranoid? Understandably paranoid paranois because I
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couldn't understand after everything that I did, that they I evacuated this senate,
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I evacuated the house. I laid
those evacuations. My officers had to do
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the work, but I instructed them
over the radio. Yeah, all,
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yeah, all this is on radio
transmissions. Like I don't know if you
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had a chance to listen to it, but if you listen to it,
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because a lot of people probably say, I'm not going to listen to it
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because it's a way because we're trying
to attack of demonstrators. No, don't
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listen for the officers' reactions. Listen
to what leadership did specifically unit to.
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Just listen to the radio transmissions from
one to three to four. And if
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you can't see that with the colonel
January sixth was a setup, then you
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have to be deaf. Just listen
to the radio transmissions exactly. Well,
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TK, when you when they suspended
you for seventeen months, did they say
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right off the bat it was seventeen
months or was it, well, six
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months, where we're going to do
in another six months? How did they
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determine seventeen months? Well, I
get it just worked out that way due
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to various reasons. I won't get
into everything, but part of it was
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I was under criminal investigation for wearing
a mega hat. So I don't know
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if you know about the megahat situation. Now we've got we've got a picture
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of you with the magahat and uh
and of course the picture of the maga
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hat as well. And people need
to hear the story of how that magahat,
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you know, in a sense,
probably saved your life, allowed you
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to have access to save the lives
of fellow officers that were trapped. Yes,
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and and doing that interaction, I
was criminally investigated because two of the
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people who helped me get up those
steps and back down were oathkeepers and I
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had never even heard of an keeper
before. Jane were six and then yeah,
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and then and so now we know
what the oath keepers were because of
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basically the trial and everything. But
they just wanted to help me get my
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officers who were trapped and some one
of the officers had made a radio transmission
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that they were gassed and mace and
they couldn't move and they were stuck at
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a certain part of that the top
of the capital. Right. Yeah,
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I'm trying. Yeah, there's there's
some stuff that I can't talk about when
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it comes to that, so but
more becoming out later. But those two
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men helped me get up the steps, give me all. These are the
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two oath keepers that helped that help
you they made away. They could make
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a way in the crowd because the
people knew the oath keepers were friendly and
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they were supporting you to get you
know, to liberate these officers who were
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trapped up there. Right and along
the way. Uh, one of the
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people put some Maga hat on your
head, and that kind of gave you
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a little bit of cover, didn't
that well. I got the Mega hat.
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I tried to get the officers out
twice. The first time I was
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unsuccessful, and then the second time
I was able to get him with the
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help of those two o keepers.
So on the first trip when I went,
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when I went up and I went
back down, on the way back
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down, somebody reached over and stuck
a Mega hat on my head. I
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didn't know what he was doing.
And then he put the Mega hat on
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my head and I asked him if
I could keep it, but he wanted
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the hat back, and another person
in the crowd was listening and he said,
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when you can have my hat if
this guy wants his bat. So
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I can't remember which hat I ended
up with, but I ended up with
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one of those hats. And then
when I got to the bottom of the
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steps, maybe twenty minutes later.
It's when I kept a hat on while
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I was standing out there, and
then obviously you see a block officer with
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a mega hat on. It made
an interesting commerce. So that who some
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people came up to me and started
talking to me, and I told him
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what I needed, and then we
went up there and got the offices down.
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Let me ask you if we can
rewind for just a moment. You
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know here January sixth, you see
all this unfolding, You say, wow,
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this is a trap. This is
set up. What happened when the
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Capitol came under attack with BLM and
Antifa? What was it eight months earlier?
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Was there a prequel? Was there
advanced notice? Was their planning?
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Uh? You know? And information
that was given to Capitol police about the
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potential disruption and protest of BLM and
Antifa? Well, actually the be it
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the Black Lives Matter that was at
the White House, that wasn't at the
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Capitol. Well but okay, but
still in the vicinity regard right, because
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they were there at what Lafayette Square
across the street from the Capitol, tried
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to burn down the church. As
we know, President Trump had to be
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secure. But but regards I mean
you've got, uh, you've got a
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government, a federal you know,
the White House in this bitter case being
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put under siege. Did you were
you given or were you responsible at all
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in dealing with that that protest?
No, not at all, because you're
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you're you're confined to the Capitol.
Uh, solely one hundred percent right to
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the Capitol, the Capitol buildings like
we have the Library, Congress, we
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have the the the Senate buildings and
the House of Representatives buildings, so that
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that's my expanded control idea. Was
there any intel, any after action report
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of what happened with BLM and ANTIFA
shared with Capital police? Because I got
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I mean, you're you're not that
far away in the Capitol building in the
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White House and you're talking about security. Was there any discussion and shared information
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between you know, between Capitol Police
and and uh, you know, you
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know, the police Department of DC. Not to my knowledge, But that
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wouldn't have went to me. That
would have went more likely to Yoga on
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the Pittman. That would have went
to her unit, maybe Chad Thomas unit.
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But no, that wouldn't it wouldn't
have made it to me. Well,
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based on your experience, do you
think that would have been useful as
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far as just training purposes, Understanding
any information, all of it would have
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been useful, you know, especially
the intel saying that what was going to
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actually occur at the Capitol would have
been absolutely useful. And we couldn't even
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get that. So, you know, expecting Pittman to give us, you
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know, intel and talk to us
about Antifa and Black Lives Matter when she
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wouldn't even tell us what was going
to happen at our own building that she
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knew. No, Yeah, exactly. Well, we're talking about the former
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Capitol Police officer T. K.
Johnson sharing the truth, the whole truth,
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and nothing but what really happened on
January sixth, and it is the
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truth and his commitment to his command
in securing the Capitol Building and those in
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it, Senators and congressman and congresswomen. He ends up being suspended, He
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is no longer part of the Capitol
Police. Sadly, you think of somebody
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with this kind of experience and talent
and to not have him be a part
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of the operation to this day,
I believe, in my humble opinion,
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is a great loss to our country
and the Capitol Police force Now let's go
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back and revisit for a moment.
Here. You shared very quickly when it
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came down for you to make a
decision, You're you're on comms trying to
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get yoganand to Pittman to make a
decision to clear, to clear the Senate,
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to clear Congress, Get the Congressman, get the senators, get them
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to safety. Because you know,
even as Stephen Sun said and these numbers,
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I had not heard the numbers fifty
eight to one. I know you've
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said before that you were greatly out
manned that I guess the bottom line is
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if this was truly an insurrection,
uh you you, and I say you,
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the Capitol police would have been easily
outgunned and overwhelmed. And no,
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this was not an insurrection. I've
said this multiple times. Now. I
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would have said, like I did, say it was an insurrection like in
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twenty twenty one, but I started
finding out more information, and people have
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to be able to change their position
when presented new facts, and in fact,
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just don't present that this was just
basically a cool set up by yoga
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non depittment. Now, she did
it because I believe she did it because
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she wanted Son fired as the chief
of police, and she wanted to gain
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favor from Nancy Pelosi's why she did
it. So now, yeah, So
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all you have to do, I
would say, if if anybody really wants
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to know would have really occurred on
January sixth, have to listen to the
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radio transmissions first and then work your
way back and then find out what intail
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she had before January six That's all
you have to do. Once you listen
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to the radio transmissions, which the
committees that were in twenty twenty one and
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twenty twenty two, never focus on
those radio transmissions of yeah, and if
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you had, all you have to
do is get somebody who doesn't have a
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vested interests. They can be Republican, the Democrat, it doesn't matter,
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doesn't have a vested interest in the
outcome of the investigation, to just to
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look at it, listen to the
radio transmissions, ask certain questions, and
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then you'll easily know because and I
said this multiple times, if the amount
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of people that were there, if
they wanted to take over the capital,
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we couldn't have stopped them. Right
now, even the movie three hundred,
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I know you heard of that movie
three hundred and those and I don't know.
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If you know, all those people
died, they all died in that
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movie. So people, it wasn't
like they beat up ten thousand people.
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They die, yes, But and
and the thing was they were just trying
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to hold like that ridge for a
certain amount of time. They knew they
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were going to die, but they
wanted to hold a ridge for a certain
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amount of time. And we were
outnumbered. And the thing was we weren't
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protecting a ridge. They could have
came in, and they did come in
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on all sides of the building.
We were surrounded fairly quickly if they wanted
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to get in. Now, obviously
we know there were some violence that occurred
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on January sixth, but if they
wanted to take over and kill all the
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members of Congress, we couldn't have
stopped them if that was the purpose of
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everybody there. So when you when
people get charged, they should only be
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charged with what they did. The
problem that you had, Bill, is
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that everybody that is getting arrested for
January six when they at the defense table,
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the jury is looking at all of
them as the insurrectionists. Right.
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That's that's the difficult part they want
to get because it's the narrative it's the
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narratives out there. I mean,
you use you use a professional multi media
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producer director who cherry picks information and
clips you know, from January sixth,
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and presents it in the most negative
of light to be consistent with what they
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wanted us to know. This is
the thing that we say repeatedly on the
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show. TK and I asked the
question, who told you? Who told
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you it was an insurrection? Do
you know that? And I challenge our
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audience and said, look, even
like here, you and I are talking,
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and you're answering questions, and you're
being very forthright, and I'm grateful
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for your honesty and transparency on this, But I caution our audience all the
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time. I said, look at
don't just take my word for it.
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Don't just take tk's word for it. He's told you several times where to
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go and listen for some information and
see if your journey into fact finding will
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either reaffirm or deny what he's presented
to you. Is that fair to say?
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That's perfect to say, just I'm
not asking anybody to believe me.
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All I'm asking you to do is
do your own research. All you have
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to do is listen to the radio
transmissions and listened for unit two and that's
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Yoga non depittment, and listen for
me for oh five, Jay John,
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and then you make the determination if
what I did deserve to be suspended for
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seventeen months and basically constructively fired.
But at the end of the day,
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I never was going to go back
because I could never work for Yoga on
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depittment knowing what she did on that
day alone. When I found out after
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I resigned was even worse, and
all the people who came out, the
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whistleblowers who came to speak against Yogan
on the pittment and how she, along
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with Jay Thomas Major, crushed him. I'm glad I left. How how
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many years did you work under Yoga
underpittment? She was there for twenty two
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years. I was there for twenty
three. She was my direct commander one
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time. While I was there,
I was a sergeant at the Capitol.
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She was a captain and now as
assistant chief. If I'm at in her
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bureau, I don't work directly for
her, but she's technically one of my
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bosses, you know. But but
she's been over me, probably for I
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think she got promoted around two thousand
and eight two thousand and nine to lieutenant
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or something like that. So from
two thousand and nine to two thousand and
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twenty one, did you suspect that
there was a breakdown in leadership? Did
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you observe something that would cause you
to be cautious prior to January the sixth?
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Nothing she put Dick, They didn't
put anything out to operations. Now,
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I'm an operation commander at the Capitol, and you don't tell me what's
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going to occur on January sixth when
you knew exactly who who invited who opened
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the doors to the Capitol building and
invited who authorized those officers too? Because
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we see it on video where they're
waving, uh, you know, the
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protesters into the building. Who authorized
that? Well, now a lot of
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now I don't know. You have
to look at the times that this occurred
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at the ding like I would have
to go back and see the times and
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actually see the video. But a
lot of times when they were when people
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were just basically allowed into the building, the Capitol had already been evacuated of
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members of Congress, on Senator and
the House. And this is what I
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believe. Unless somebody shows me something
that that counters that and we knew that
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it was the officers. And I
haven't spoken to the officers, and I
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haven't spoken to many officers since I
left because I never really went back.
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I never went back to work again. But it tk you got friends there,
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you got you got brothers in arms. I mean to cut yourself off
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and not have that that connection that
to that's got to be personally painful.
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Well, yeah, you know my
wife worked there too. I met my
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wife did we got married, So
you know, my wife was there.
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And it's funny because they said all
hands on deck. My wife was an
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officer there was at home and she
wasn't sick of anything. They just told
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her to stay home and basically relaxed. So it was not all hands on
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deck. You should have had everybody
there that wasn't done. There was so
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much that needed to occur on January
sixth, but didn't happen. What what's
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happened? Anything happened adversely to your
wife because of your situation. She was
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old enough to retire. I wasn't
there. My wife's a little bit older
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than I am, so she got
to retire and I could not. She
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had her twenty five years and she
left, I see okay, so she
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knew that this was a bad situation, and I imagine heartbroken to see what
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they had done to her husband.
We've got about five minutes left here,
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TK, and I want to give
you an opportunity to kind of summarize your
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story, remind everybody about Gifts and
Go how we can come along, shide
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and support you and your family.
I don't be brief with the Gifts and
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Goal. If you can help help, it keeps me in the fight,
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keeps me on Twitter, it keeps
me doing interviews. I don't have to
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work so much. I can take
off from my part time job which I
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work security on the weekends, and
my Gifts and Goal has helped me not
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do that. So I can do
interviews and still spend a little bit of
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time with the family. And I
don't have to focus so much on trying
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to get a new job and to
be silenced in anyway, because I don't
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want that. Now. I want
to summarize this too, and I want
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to break basically make it as simple
as I can. Jane Wary sixth,
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there's two fundamental principles about January six
Number One, you had the the setup
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of what occurred on that day that
was led by Yoga Nan, the Pittman
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you had, you had the cover
up which is occurring now that is led
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by Chief Jay Thomas Major. He
wants the Jay six narrative to remain the
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same for political purposes because he and
his wife are heavily involved in the Democratic
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Party and he needs for the narrative
to stay exactly what it is to ensure
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that Donald Trump doesn't get elected and
re elected in twenty twenty four. So
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that is his primary purpose and he
has to do that by protecting Yoga Na
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depittment. And I go into great
detail on Twitter, So if anybody wants
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to follow me on Twitter, please
do and you'll be getting updates and I
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give ten bits of information. So
you need to know that the Pittman,
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that Pittman was the cause she was
to set up and Jay Thomas Manger is
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the cover up. That's what you
need to know. You need to know
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that the radio transmissions are public and
you need to listen to those radio transmissions.
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Unit two which is Yoganan depittment,
Unit four or five Jay John which
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is me. Listen to that,
and then you have to look at and
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listen to some of the congressional inherents
that Yoganana pittmand specifically when it comes to
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the intelligence that she did not ask
to Chief Major, I'm sorry, Chief,
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to Chief Thomas and to Chief Son. Now you're gonna listen to if
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you listen to the congressional testimony that
she gave in February, she's going to
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say that she did give it,
but that wasn't true and she never went
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back to correct the record. That
needs to occur. And now at the
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end of the day, and the
audience needs to know this, The J
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six community needs to know this that
they're not going to be able to cover
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this up forever. They just need
to cover it up and keep everything concealed
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as much as they can until after
twenty twenty four. Then they can start
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letting some stuff go. But the
election, the presidential election will already be
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over. So if you keep the
narrative the same, then obviously you're going
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to get if you're going to vote
Biden. If you're Ardent Biden support,
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you're voting Biden. If you're Art
Trump supporter, you're going to vote for
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Trump. But if you're in the
middle, those are the votes that Jay
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Thomas Major wants to go to Biden
and how people just repeatedly that the United
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States Capitol Police should not be used
as a democratic weapon against former President Donald
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Day Trump used to remain neutral,
period, They need to be neutral.
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One final question here where Steve Sun
and all this Steve Sun is still a
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process and everything. And I think
that if you listen to his last interview
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that he did on on Tucker on
X and he did the he did,
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he gave congressional testimony, and he's
starting to probably see that Pittman had a
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bigger I guess role and what occurred
in gaining where six So, like you
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said, the truth is finding its
way out. Uh TK, we got
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to leave it there. I cannot
thank you enough for your courage, for
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your support of the US Constitution.
You're a fellow constitutionalist, and I gotta
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tell you I love you for that, because this is what we need.
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We need patriots that aren't about a
party, but they're about the American idea,
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the American idea that was born out
of our Declaration of Independence and our
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US Constitution. And clearly there are
forces they want to do everything they can
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to topple our rights as citizens as
enumerated in our US Constitution. Again,
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I remind our audience to uh,
you know, go to the to the
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campaign to support TK. Remind them
of the website again TK, where they
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can go. You can go look
at my profile on Twitter. You can
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find me. I think my name
is well, you can see my name
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right there, Tarik Johnson. You
can put that in and you can find
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my profile and you'll be able to
find my gifts and go there. But
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more importantly, follow me and you
will be getting up to date information on
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the J six cover up because that's
primarily what I'm focusing on. If you
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look at my most recent tweets,
I'm focusing on Jay Thomas Major because I
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know what he's doing and I know
why he's doing it. So that's my
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focus exactly. T K. Thank
you, God speed, my friend,
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take care of Thanks for having me, Bill, take you out it Our
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thanks to t K Johnson for being
with us today. For more information and
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to be a part of this mighty
movement to return to God and to save
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our country. Go to Bill Martinezshow
dot com. May God bless you and
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keep you and make his face shine
upon you. May he be gracious unto
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you and give you peace. Thank
you so much for being with us.
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