Finding Good News In A World Of Bad News

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0:47 Kelly White's going to be joining us in just a few moments, the American reporter for the new tang Dynasty Television. I know you'll recognize Kelly from his Fox News days, who was a co anchor of America's News Headquarters on Saturday was based in the network's Washington, d C. Bureau because he just wanted to have a lot of fun, and why not, we're going to be talking about you know, what's happening in our world, a lot of I guess, for lack of a better word, you just got to call it what it is, a lot of evil, and it is disturbing, there's no doubt, and there's a question, you know, of hopelessness that seems to be on the rise because of all the crime and the murder and just to you know, just seems to be the the unwinding of civilizations. It's it's pretty crazy, isn't it. Well, Kelly Wright joins us now, Kelly, welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us. Feel it's a pleasure to join you this hour. Thank you for having me on.

1:44 Well, Kelly, uh, you know, from your perspective, I mean, you're a TV anchorman. You're dealing with the news on a daily basis, as I am, it's pretty crazy, isn't it. How do you define insanity? You keep doing the same things over and over and over again, expecting a result or a solution that's positive, and it just doesn't go that way. So yeah, to your point, it is crazy, absolutely crazy. Yeah, it was interesting. I was reading a survey over the weekend, Kelly. He said, forty percent over forty percent of America believe it or not, feel that we're in the last days and the signs are there. You know, when you look at it from a spiritual component, here a lot of like you say, a lot of darkness, a lot of insanity, a lot of chaos. You know, when you read the Word of God, you know it points to these kind of signs that are becoming more and more evident. Indeed, if you look at things from an eschatological standpoint or apocalyptic standpoint, which basically boils down to revelation revealing through the Word of God what is unfolding in the last days and times. To your point, they're that forty percent of Americans who believe that we are at the end of our rope, they would believe, of course that the Bible, the Word of God, adheres to that or at least validates that. Of course, no man knows the hour or the day or the time according to scripture through the words of Jesus Christ himself, and him going so far as

3:19 to say that he doesn't even know the hour, only to follow, but he has certainly given us the fair warning of what's going on. Well, yeah, we need to be able to understand the times. I mean there have been historically, whether we're the Brians or the Issacar brothers, you know that they always looked into these things. They were observers of the signs of the times. And again we're not predicting, but I think we need to heed some warning here. And I think it's quite interesting that here we are, as we are engaged in the advent season. Last week was the week of hope, this week is the week of peace, and as we go through these successive weeks leading to Christmas morning, when God gave us the greatest gift of all time. I don't think that this is all just by circumstance.

4:12 I believe, you know, you can see God's hand on this right now, in the midst of what's going on in Ukraine, what's happening in Israel. Here we are in this advert season, coming against the darkness. Yeah. And isn't it good though, that we can have people who operating the news and believe in the good news operating in the bad news world. It can actually elevate that truth and that hope with conviction and courage and boldness, but also in a respectful and gentle way, in order to let people know that no matter what's going on, if you trust in God and not a man, don't give up hope because hope is always going to endure and prevail, and actually putting it in that work where you're trusting in God that hope is invincible, right exactly. Well, the thing is, Kelly, you know you feel the same way, do I mean, we care about our viewers and our listeners. You know, we want to bless them.

5:12 We want to, yes, you know, objectively tell them what's going on, you know, what's happening in the news, and and what we you know, what we can do about it. Because I think at the conclusion of any kind of conversation, people go, okay, so now what do we do? Right? Yeah, So the question, that's a good question. You bring in the object of report. You tell people what's going on as it relates to Israel, or as it relates to Ukraine and Russia and all that's going on. Even here at home in the United States of America, where we're conflicted with mass shootings at at a rapid pace, and just the uncertainty in our government, the divisive politics that goes on. It just seems like, you know, all hell is breaking loose. And no one's around to bring it in under control. But that's not true. That goes into what's going on. Yeah, and the world can be a very fear mongering kind of place, but the reality is, yeah, talk about the negative things that go on, but then find that way to get from the problem to the solution, and let the solution be rooted and grounded in truth as well as faith and hope and love, because that is going to help every American household if they will trust in God and not necessarily their government, but if they'll trust in God, the Kingdom of God, then they'll have an answer that will also help them have a mental clarity, peace of mind,

6:44 sound judgment, love, and not a spirit of fear. So that's what I try to do with my show, America's Hope. I've been trying to do even when I was at Fox. I was always trying to say, Okay, we've got these negative things going on, let's not disciss that, but let's also a search for that truth that's under the surface and that light that's shining through the darkness. If we don't show that light though, both of us who are actually the ones who are actually giving the news on a daily basis. And I understand the news internership, have been working it for thirty plus years. I know how objectivity is always part of our brand where you want to be able to take in all sides. So there's a left side, there's a right side, and there's a wrong side, and there's a bad side, but there's also the truth of God's kingdom. And that's what I had to grapple with in my career, being able to look at right and wrong and good and evil and reporting stories from a fair and balanced kind of way, which I still seek to do and always will.

7:48 But then, Bill, I always had this frustration. I had this frustration of saying, yeah, you know, I'm giving you this news, but man, if I could just open up and tell you what the truth of God's word is, right, that might not be so concerned about what's going to happen tomorrow because you'll have this folk that endures exactly well. And I think that's the challenge. Like you, I mean, I've been in the business for over fifty years, and it's become notably challenging whenever you got into the ultimate answer, because you and I understand the answer is a spiritual answer and when you are in secular media, and I can tell you I've been involved with even Christian groups that are uncomfortable sometimes, you know, which is amazing to me because like, wait a minute, you know, you have been You've been charged with the responsibility of taking the good news to Jerusalem, Judas a Maria, the othermost parts of the world. That's our responsibility.

8:50 And God has blessed you with his platform, and so it's And I was going to ask you how much of a challenge that has been in your career because you've been involved with, you know, just as I have with you know, secular entities that sometimes go well, you know, tell you you may have overstepped the line a little bit. I used to get that all the time, you know, so I always knew I was I always knew I was doing good whenever I got that phone call, you know, yeah, I get that and uh and and now I you know, I'm really blessed. Throughout my career. I've worked at the seven hundred Club, I've worked at CBN, and then I had the freedom to to actually, you know, let it all, uh get out into the open. And then I've worked for Secutor UH Networks and stations and and all of them have been very respectful of my faith, and I've been respectful of theirs. However, when I really started stepping into the deep, buh, that's when I would get the you know, the rain end. Let's rain them in, let's pull them in. Exactly. So the network that I'm with now nt d UH is well as epic times. I remember when they they heard about my program, America's Hope, and they knew that I wanted to do this, and when they questioned me about you know what, they didn't question me.

10:11 They were saying, hey, you know, we might want to try this, and I said, well, you know, there's some people are going to be against this, and they said, well, is it a religious show? I said no, but it's a show that talks about hope and if you're in America based on our Judeo Christian principles and values, faith will come into the equation. Notice I didn't say religion. I absolutely hate that words, because so did Jesus. Yes, exactly, I said faith will come into the equation and I don't want to be afraid, afraid or shy away from that. So remember I was giving them some of the critics version of what America's Hope would looked like. I remember one person telling me, why are you going to call it America's Hope? I can just hear the conservative blowharts talking about this and waiving the American flag, And to the credit of the NTD leadership, they looked at me and said, well, what's wrong with hoop? And then they said, and what's wrong with the American flag? Right? So I thought about it, and I prayed about it, said okay, yeah, let's give this the old College dry, but let's give it a real good try. And so this passed. July fourth, of course, the Declaration of Independence and the Independence Day for America, we celebrated the launch of America's Hope, and we did it in New York City, and we talked about the story of what unfolded at Saint Paul's Church exactly right there aground zero. It's still standing today. And it happened, of course, in seventeen eighty nine. That's when George Washington, our first

11:45 president, raised his hand not far away from that church at Federal Hall and was inaugurated as the first President of the United States. And then he said, let's walk over to Saint Paul's Church for the inaugural Indaugro prayer service, and so e along with Alexander Hamilton and Ben Franklin and all the founding fathers who were in New York City at that time. Many people aren't aware of the fact that New York was actually our first nation's capital. Exactly. It was great to start it from there and then to tell the story the spiritual dimensions of how our founding of this great nation took place. You know, from the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and then the US Constitution. We hold these truths to be self up and that all men are created equal, and that we're endowed by our creator with certain unailable rights, the rights to what life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Now where we all free back then will no history will show that. But history does show is that we were able to take the birth effect of slavery and turn that in to something evil and actually having abology of that and then the abolition movement and then moving or moving forward is our country perfect nose. So that's why the Constitution says in order to form a more perfect union exactly. Yeah, it was that aspirational perspective, yes, that our founding fathers had that was

13:16 really inspired by divine providence, which George Washington cided time and again and the other founding fathers. But you know, the thing that was so unique about this country, going back to what you were saying earlier, Kelly, right, was that, you know, this is the first time where the people were going to be in charge. It was the organizational chart was turned upside down. There is no king at the top, there were no czars, there were no potentates. It was going to be we the people. And you know what what responsibility for we the people to orchestrate this, you know, this republic? And this is where we have fallen short. See, it's a representative form of democracy, but it doesn't abdicate your responsibility in order to affect the government itself. And this is where we've gotten laxed over the decades and thought, Okay, we're going to let these alleged elites take over.

14:22 And now we have the rise of elitism and they've marginalized the forgotten man and woman. And what's happened is that instead of politics being downstream the culture, that paradigm has been flipped and now you have the culture downstream politics, and we got the tail shaken the dog here, Kelly, Well, we do, and we've forgotten one of the most important credos of our nation, and that's in God we trust. In addition to that government by the people and for the people, and when the people are not being represented totally and with respect, by the way, because there are many elite people who are not respecting the American people and not hearing from the American people. And you just talked a few moments ago about that study out there talking about how forty percent of Americans believe that we're witnessing the end times. And then you look at George Barnett, who's done exceptional research on the faith based community, the church, and talking about where we are even in with regard to the church.

15:31 So there are a lot of things going on in our government institutions as well in our churches and in our places of work where the truth is not being told. The truth has been marginalized, and we have a lot of misinformation at propaganda, which is why we have protests on college campuses for all the wrong aspects of why we should be protesting. Yes, let's respect everyone freedom of speech, and their right to free speech and their right to do the things that they've done in terms of protesting. But when it comes to genocide, let's get that right. And we saw recently that three college presidents of some very elite institutions got it wrong exactly well, and one has stepped down and they're waiting on the other two as a result of this. But you see, what it speaks to, Kelly is the level of maturity.

16:29 See, our nation has been done down, and we need to really take an assessment of where we are right now. When you have three elite university presidents not knowing how to answer a very academic question, that's almost as silly as a Supreme Court nominee not being able to answer what a woman is what a woman is. See, this is where we are right now. We're so unanchored, you know, from the truth. We've exchanged the truth for a lie. I mean you're going to have something. You know, this relative truth idea is a lie in and of itself, because there is absolute truth. But we want to try to think, you know, and argue differently. But we do this at grave expense, because you might as well argue that gravity doesn't exist right, that's right, that's right, and gravity does exist. Yeah, let's come off the roof and you'll find out, right, yeah, or if you want to, you know, like some of these people, it's so comical in a sense. I mean it's Babylon b type of stuff. Is that you get gays, for example, who are you know, storming the streets of America shouting, you know, from the river to the sea, and not even knowing what they're supporting. It's like, well, wait a minute, do you realize the people you're supporting by that slogan? If you were there in their country, you'd find out about the low gravity really quick because they have been reputed to throw homosexuals off

18:00 the top of buildings. Well, you know, during the time that Isis was really really running rapid and beheading a lot of people. They were beheading not only Christians, but they're also beheading people within their own faith, Islam. And I've reported on a lot of those stories and I will never forget seeing how they treated one homosexual man. I'm trying to remember the exact location. It was somewhere near Syria, and Isis have actually invited everyone to that center. They took that man to the top of the roof and literally threw him to his death because of his sexual preference. Here in America. That would not happen here in America. There is a respect and appreciation for human life. The other thing that I've seen going wrong with as it relates to radical Islam, says I covered the war in Iraq. I saw how the Sunnis and Shias and the insurgency that was unfolding in Iraq was actually causing a lot of problems for innocent people who wanted freedom, Innocent people who were actually thinking the United States and other members of the Coalition of the Willing for coming to Iraq and getting rid of Saddam Husseang as well as trying to open up the doors for freedom. Now politically, looking back on that, we did a lot wrong there in terms of how we moved forward. But the freedom

19:30 that many people were looking for, they were actually getting that. And then to see how things went sideways in terms of the rise of the insurgency and abus A Cob I watched him behead Nick Berg. I was one of the reporters reported that, and I had to watch it on closed circuit tells you because this is what this group was feeding out to us. So I'd say all that to lead up to this. The propaganda machine of these of these terrorist groups and organizations, what's fueling that one. It's a hatred for anything foreign to what they believe, and they do want to establish a caliphate at all expenses. And it's not just in Israel. It isn't just in other parts of the country in terms of Ukraine and Russia. But it's also happening in Nigeria. I just recently reported on my show just the other day how how sinister it's become in Nigeria for Christians, most notable coomers. They are on the one the wanted liss by radical Islamic groups like Bogo Haram. There's a faction of al Qaeda there, a faction of Isis there, and they are literally running throughout these Christian populated areas and killing Christians, abducting women, raping women. And this is this is the kind of thing that's going on,

21:02 and not many people are really reporting it exactly, and we have to put that news out there right well, and uh, and this is this is important. This is happening. I mean right now, there's thirty two wars around the world right now. That's going on, Kelly, and as you know, and you know, it's hard to keep up with it, and it's hard also to think, Okay, who do you help here. I mean, we're in the midst of, you know, dealing with Ukraine and Russia, which is so bizarre because I see this at times it's like we're supporting both sides, just like we are with Israelmas and you know, our foreign policy, our our State Department is very confused and it just doesn't it doesn't make sense. And again, this is where you know, the government and the manifestation of our policies, and that should be representative of the culture. Seeing most people think that it is until they find out that it's not. That's why they were shocked when you know, some of this information from Snowden and others was coming out revealing, you know, some of the things that America was doing all in the name of regime change or you know, liberty and this sort of thing, you know, getting involved in cultures that have been going on for thousands of years. And here you've got to, you know, a country that's been around for a couple hundred years, like we know better, well, you know there there is the threat of

22:33 American cockiness or conceit or arrogance, if you will, and some of our leaders have done that. And I'd have to say the blame goes on both sides of the aisle and Republican and Democrat administrations and and and really when I say the blame, I think the blame is mostly due to a short sighted this that we have in terms of foreign policy, and that we don't always listen to each other. One of the problems that we had in nine to eleven year recall is that we didn't have adequate information sharing, you know, within our own country and our own agencies. How ridiculous is that? Right?

23:17 And I will say this though, I will say that, and I have to make this very clear. You know, I could sit here and point fingers in America through and through, but I really think the finger that I have to point the most is at me, at myself. And I say that to every American citizen. If you don't like what's going on in this country, take a look in the mirror, exactly, because the greatness of our nation begins at the homes of our people. And if home is where the heart end, then what's in my heart? Do I love God with all my heart? And so do I love my neighbor as myself. And my neighbor may not look like me, may not believe as I believe. But is he or she? Will I speak to them? Will I be there to help them? I live in a very diverse neighborhood. I have neighbors who are from every walk of life, every different queue and nationality and ethnicity, and every type of faith. I respect them, I love them. If they need me, I'm going to be there for them.

24:23 But that's important. We've got to be able to start being our brother's keeper, not our brother's killer, right, And that really comes from dialogue. The greatest thing that God wants all of us to have is this relationship with Him and then a relationship with each other. So my point is that we the people. That means that we have a responsibility to vote people out of office that we don't like or favor, or we believe are not doing what we want as a nation. And then we also have to work together. Not just talking about presidential politics or or congressional politics. I'm talking about even politics about who you're choosing to be the representative of your child's school exactly.

25:10 Be that proactive and proactive in a sense that we're going to reach out to help each other. You know, we just Clarksville, Tennessee, outside of Nashville. You know, I was so happy to see people saying I'm safe, I'm safe, I'm safe. I have friends in Nashville, and I was just trying to see when we have disasters, America is the most benevolent Oh my goodness, yes, exactly the planet. And so my point I'm really trying to get to here is that build the most important thing I think America's need to know is that they are a beacon of hope to the rest of the world, and we should not forget that. We must be a beacon of hope to each other exactly. Now. I think it dovetails with what we said earlier, Kelly, and that is that it does start with us individually. That is the most dramatic thing that we can do if we take care of ourselves and we repent and come back to God. Well, I mean, I mean God right there. Man, He said a very big word repent, Because there are a lot of churches in America where the preachers ain't preaching repentance, and a lot of people don't want to hear what do you mean repent? What does that even mean? You know? What do you mean reconciliation and restoration? You know? And that's a good question.

26:30 That's a good question. Though, if you don't know what repent means, you've got to understand this is prescriptive with God. If you think that you're going to get this thing turned around. I mean, we've got two thirds of the country says we're on the wrong track. Great observation. Okay, what does the right track look like? And we've been saying time and again we need to return to first principles. Well, first principle starts with our relationship with God. That's that's what you know, gave the birth to this nation, this idea, honored the prayers of pilgrims, and God blessed us with this great American idea, and it was up to us, we the people, to cherish that and honor that birthright right. And we know how God feels when you do not honor your birthright. He wasn't real happy with Esau when he disregarded his birthright. In fact, you said that Jacob, he loved Esa, he hated and he hated Esau because he disrespected his birthright. So there's got to be something significant about that, Kelly Well.

27:32 And the significance goes all the way down to how this America that we loved so dearly was created. You see. That's what sets us apart from every other nation on the planet, with exception of Israel. And that's the fact that we made a fact in making that declaration of independence and that constitution with God Almighty. And there's no other document like that except for what God made and covenant with Israel. So there's the linkage. And many people are protesting they don't understand that God centered, kingdom focused linkage that we have with Israel, which is why there is this symbiotic relationship and why and Iran can say we want to go after the little Satan, which they view as Israel, and then the big Satan, which they view as America. Exactly how does that happen. It happens because of the Judeo Christian principles that went into our founding document. The founding fathers had looked at all forms of government and they realized that the only form of government that was going to work would be one that would acknowledge God, our creator, and then our responsibilities as his subjects here on earth to actually be his ambassadors. That's what the Pilgrims really had in mind. Right, we could get it. We can talk about all the things that went wrong. Well, every human being is flawed. Man, I made so many sins, and that's why saying Lord, thank you for your forgiveness, find repentance, thank you for salvation through Jesus Christ on

29:06 the cross of Calvary, and knowing you in the power of your resurrection and the fellowship of your suffering, which means what there's victory in my relationship with God, then with my wife and family, and then with my friends and my neighbors, and then even with my enemies. And I've been in some situations where I've had to deal with enemies and I'd rather deal with them in love than on the battlefields of the world. But I realized that wars have to be fought because freedom ain't free. That's right, and so we've got to protect it with our very life. Realizing that the men and women who serve in arm's way of our United States Armed Forces, I plau them each and every day for what they do because less than one percent of Americans are actually serving in the United States military, you know, and they have to willfully decide to join. And when they raised their hands, and I've served before, when they raised their hands, they're dedicating their awt to protecting this nation. Right Well, Kelly, just like you when you take that oath of office, which I did when I became a marine. Is that oath is till death to his part. It never expires, does it? No, it really doesn't. And that's, you know, to that point.

30:22 That's the other reason why when when what happened on October seventh, you know, two months ago in Israel, you saw many people even here in America saying, I've got to go to Israel because they had taken an oath the servant in the Israeli Defense forts and many of them went there. You even saw Americans here looking what was happening in Ukraine and Russia saying I've got to go. And as you talked about before, Bill, there at least thirty two wars. And that goes back to exactly the way we opened up this conversation about the forty percent who say man we're at the end times. And Jesus says himself in Matthew twenty four, you know, in twenty five, you know what this time would look like, wars and rumors of wars.

31:04 And then you've got Paul the Apostle over in tewod Timothy three, and he's advising Timothy what's going to happen these last days and times? And perilous times will come and men will be lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, of a form of godliness but denies power, always hearing the truth and never understanding. And said, man, is that not where we are today? Yeah? Exactly, Yeah, the love of many will wax cold. I mean that that idea, you know, going back to what you're talking about about, you know, not having a relationship with your neighbor because your heart is so cold and callous that you have no capacity to love your neighbor. You know that that idea shudders me. Kelly, I don't know about you.

31:45 Right Well, it's a pathetic state of affairs when we allow ourselves to succumb to our own selfish ways and selfish desires. That's part of the problem we have. Uh, if we're going to point fingers at what's going on one of the problems again, going back to looking at the man in the mirror. When we do wrong, we need to right the wrong. I think, you know, doctor King sentat very clearly that darkness can I drive out darkness. Only light can do that. And hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that. We have to set ourselves up to atmosphere of serving each other. And what it was really echoing at that point was a version CoA Losges about how we need to set our affections and our desires and our aspirations on things above. Yes, will not you know, rust or be stolen? And what's the greatest gift we can give each other to love each other exactly? Yeah? Amen, Well, Kelly, I just so appreciate your heart, and I'm getting to know you a little bit more, and I'm appreciating this time our viewers as well, because you know this is true, and this is what will set you free. This is what will get you out of the darkness and the chaos. It's like I always go back to the opening verses of the Book of Genesis. In the beginning God and and and how the spirit of God hovered over the darkness and and

33:17 I and I see that being a bit of analogous, uh, with with our very souls is how the spirit of God hovered over the darkness of our very soul, you know, to bring us into the light and uh, you know, and it is such a blessing that it's it's hard to put in words, but it is a personal experience that we want everybody to enjoy and as much as possible this side of heaven, because I believe that, you know, as watchmen on the wall, we're going to be accountable. You know, we're accountable to get that gospel message out there. And that's why I appreciate you coming on today so that we could, you know, we can talk about these things, because there's not many shows like this or platforms like this where we can be so open about our faith. But see, this is where the answer lies. It doesn't it doesn't lie in a political figure like you said when we first started this conversation. It doesn't lie in anything that is temporary or you know, associated with the temporal aspect of our life here on this plane. We have to look to the eternal because that's that's where that's where we're going to be at from you know, for eternity. I mean, you know, here maybe seven you know, if you're lucky, maybe eighty years of life. But you know, eternity is a long time, indeed, it is. And the question is how do

34:49 we want to spend it? Yeah, and who we want to spend it with? Well, spend it with. So it's better to invest in God now and love him right now. And you know, the thing is, I just want to get back to that point about America and some of the things that we have done. We've done a lot of great things where the most generous nation on the planet, we're still seen as a beacon of hope to many people, which is why so many people are trying to come here legally and illegally. And then there are many people who want to attack us and bring us down because of what we've been blessed with. God has richly blessed this nation, and we shouldn't resigned that. The problem that we sometimes have in our foreign policy and the way we do things through our geopolitics is that we have this we have developed this arrogance and this pride, and pride always goes before a fall, and I would. I would caution our leaders to really pay attention when Senate Chaplain Berry Black is having a prayer service, get in there soak up some prayers. Same thing with our members of Congress because they have a house chat. I think it would be a good thing if members of Congress could do that more often, and members of all of our state legislators could do that as well as our city council members, rather than picking each other apart because one's liberal or one's conservative, but one's Democrat or one's Republican. It's time that we become kingdom minded, and that means

36:20 you've got to be able to, first of all, have an understanding of whose kingdom we're actually serving. Is it going to the kingdom of righteousness, peace and join the Holy Ghost, or is it going to be a kingdom of evil, treachery and tearing each other apart through killing each other. I think I'd rather take righteousness, peace and join the Holy Ghost. And I'd also like to take on that spirit of humility that Solomon talked about when they were dedicating the temple and also saying, if my people were called by my name, would humble themselves and turn from their wicked way, seek my face and pray. Then from heaven I will hear their prayer and to give their sins and heal their land. Our land needs healing, we know, yes, exactly well. And the thing what you point out here, see this is the power of prayer when we come together, is that you must approach God with humility and truth. And when you do so, that's when the hearts of men change and we realize that it's not about us, just like you said, Kelly, very appropriately, it's about serving one another. And you've got to imagine the model in paradigm. I mean, you've been around it in DC all these years, and it is sad in some regards because I see these politicians who come in and their freshman year and their first orientation class, and they're all idealistic and eager to serve their constituency back home,

37:52 and they come into the meat grinder and they lay it out very clearly saying, Okay, you made it here, and you know, guess what your number one job is and they think, well, to serve our constituency. They go, No, your number one job is to get reelected. And you're gonna say that, right, yeah, So so right off the bat, you're starting on the wrong foot, and so anyway, go go ahead. And I was just quite agree with you, because that becomes the mantra, get reelected at all costs. Make sure you put the right people in place, you sit on the right committees, you make the right kind of points. Not scoring points with your constituents so much, but scoring points with how you get the lobbyist to give you more money for that next campaign.

38:39 So it's always the next campaign as opposed to let's get America right exactly. Let's get America on points so that we can rise and become more than just a beacon of hope, but a beacon of love and freedom and peace, not only for ourselves but for the rest of the world. Let's export the goodness and kindness of this country and the greatness of this country, as opposed to exporting some of the confusion that we've done because of what we've which leads to destruction. You know, I talked to an African president at the turn of the century in nineteen ninety nine, Matthew Karaku, who at one point had been a dictator for the country beneath and when communism. Communism fell, he made his country, jurned his country to a constitutional republic, and a young pastor led that former dictator to a relationship with Jesus Christ. And then all Matthew Caracu could do was talk about this new found love that he had for someone that was greater than him. Wow. And he began to feel that he needed to apologize for the misdeeds of his ancestors past. Well what misdeeds were those, you might ask, was the misdeeds of the trans Atlantic slave trade. And he invited the president of Ghane at the time, Gerald rawlind So Ghana and benin vened this conference, and they set it for December nineteen ninety nine because they wanted to make sure they would go into the new century with brokenness and healing and reconciliation and repentance. Just exactly how I was

40:15 there. I saw that with my own two eyes, was working for a small well, not a small station, but to have wavy TV in the Norfolk, Virginia area. And I'm going to make this for a short out truncated. At the end of the day, when he had all these descendants of slave traders, slave merchants and everything, people who were wealthy were saying that the wealth that I enjoyed today, I fear was because of my forefathers and slaving people. And then Karaku himself said, we sold our own into captivity, and Gerald Rawlins of Ghana said, we didn't just sell our We didn't sell our feeboa a week, we sold our best and it led to a brains room that we have in Africa to day. The President, Matthew Carrick, who stood before that audience, he said, I want to apologize to you for the misdeeds of our past, this dasharly deed inflicted upon mankind.

41:09 I apologized to you in the name of Jesus Christ. I seek your forgiveness. There was silence in the room and then you could hear whimpering and then crying, and I can emotional talking about it now. But in a private audience with him along with some other members from America from our team, I asked the President, said, President character, now that you've done this, what's your message to America. He said, Americans must always understand they are a beacon of hope to the rest of the world. Then I asked him and said, more specifically than since you apologize for the misdeeds of the ancestors past in not initiating the slave trade, but perpetrating by selling their own into captivity. What's your message to African and Americamericans? Build? What he told me? Knock me off my chair? He said, you must tell African Americans never see themselves as victims, but as victors. We see you as modern day Joseph's who helped build the global economy we enjoy today. Wow.

42:17 Wow, is that powerful? I've never been the same since. Does it mean? And I'm not a perfect man, flawed. I'm a sinner saved by grace. And I know a lot of people will pump me up and say, hey, yeah, this guy, this guy. Then I had my situation with thoughts. I still love the people, their thoughts, news. But more importantly, I love God and I love that word repentance. Yes, and I love that word of modern, modern day Josephs because I recognize that black and white, we have built this nation together, Native Americans, we have built this nation together exactly like what a message can if that message alone, Kelly could get out and impact our culture here in America.

43:12 You see, that was that was inspiration that had to come, That insight had to come from the throne room of God. That was revelatory, right, yeah, yeah, revelatory to him. And then just an analogy and if African American, if if black youth and even older men and women understood that they were perceived as being modern day Joseph who helped build the global economy. The one thing I did when I got back, before I put the story on the air, I went to Jamestown, which was the first settlement, and I lost the curators. This experiment called America. Would it have worked without the input of Africans? And they looked at me and said, no, no way, because of the ingenuity and knowing how to develop the cash crop tobacco and then cotten and and then of course it oftenly turned into not just the ingenuity and the mind that we put into it, but it also turned into you know, the labor the channel slavery, which was which was just the mocking nations and the wrong and misdeeds of men, you know, rather than realizing we can do more together if we respect each other and respectfully move this nation forward. Well, greed got in the way, sin got in the way. Let's call it what it is. Slavery was sin and we're getting through that, but we're still dealing with the vestiges of it and people are trying to say, oh, I forget about it.

44:42 Well, there's still this PTSD that goes down through the generations. What Matthew Kerricu did so liberating because of what Christ did through that apology was bring people together. And then what he revealed to me, Wait, you're modern day Joseph. If people understand their DNA and who's in their DNA, then that changes their whole perception. Say, America is going through an identity crisis right now, that's all. We don't know what we're doing walking around left and right kind of bewildered and be fuddled. If we get back to a kingdom mindset exactly and realize that we're we're better together than apart, the future is definitely when they could be righter, well as much as it can be this side of heaven. But you know, when the King of Kings and Lord of lords takes his rightful throne, all that will be settled, right, and these things that Caricu referred to, I mean, wow, I mean this is just so uplifting and encouraging because it reminds you again, go back to the word of God. What men, you know what Satan meant for bad, God makes for good right for those who are called, who love God, who are called according to His purpose. God. God still his hand is still in this Oh yeah, right, and with all that was going on with slavery, and here you are, I mean, his his

46:14 perception to look at it is modern day Joseph's. And well, I'll tell you that that gives you a whole different perspective about the role that not only blacks, but other minorities that were responsible for building the infrastructure of this great country and the things that we enjoy, right, yeah, yeah, you know. And one thing that we have to do as America is we have to educate ourselves. We have to travel, we have to read, we have to study, and then we have to respect the other cultures that help build this great nation because we are I like to say, we're a melting pot of people. Oh yeah, without a doubt, every ethnicity brings something of value to this country. I was just my driver the other day in New York City was from El Salvador, and he talked about how the leadership there is cracking down MS thirteen right exactly punishing there. I'm there saying if anyone's a member of MS thirteen, you're facing thirty years in prison, no questions asked. And the result and the net result of that was what And then that result of that is that they're cutting down the crime. He says that he's exactly exactly and that's what and that's what needs to be done in Guatemala as well. But the point where that he was trying to make, he said, he looked at me, and I introduced myself to him.

47:37 He says, Kelly, let me tell you something, as as a foreigner who came to this country, I don't get it. I don't know why you guys don't understand what a beautiful country you have. I love this country. This country gave me an opportunity to make six figures. And I don't have a degree, and I've got enough now to take care of my mother. And she's in you know, she's doing well there. And I have a place there, and I have a place here, and I work hard, and I believe in God, and I believe in this nation called America. And I said, man, that's the kind of story. It was beautiful, you see. But that and those stories are part of the Naked City, as they say, is you know that series that we grew up with. It's out there, whether it's stories like this or you know, a situation of about abortion, other things that have happened not that have not fared so well, you know, for us in this country. But you know, I'm with you, Kelly. We can have hope because the hope giver is still in charge and and last time I checked, he still gets the last word right, absolutely absolutely. You know. Look, I could talk to you forever. I know you don't have forever to talk to me until we're going to happen together. But yeah, we talked about abortion.

48:54 So let me let me just bring in something I had recently. Okay, we've got we've got about it. We've got about a minute left. So I'm I just threw that out there and I go, oh my god, Okay, I'll solve this in a minute. So one lady said she was She's from Atlanta, African American woman. She said, look, raruthur King Junior said he had a dream. Why are we trying to abort the dream? Yeah? Wow, believe well, sadly, we're not trying. We are. We have been one hundred million innocents have been murdered because of the abortion industrial complex. And this is all part and parcel of the truth that we need to deal with, we need to repent over because God has given us his word that if his people, his people who are called by His name, will humble themselves and pray turn from their wicked ways, then God will hear us. He will hear us, He'll forgive us our sins and heal our land. What a glorious day that will be, Kelly Wright, I appreciate you inviting me on. You know, I'm a journalist, but I'm a good news man, all leaving the power of the good news.

50:15 Amen, opportunity. Well, I love that, Kelly Wright. Thank you, Thank you so much for being with us. Continue to be blessed and look forward to our paths crossing again, as I'm sure it will. It would be my pleasure. God bless you, God bless you. Kelly Right, the American reporter for The New Tang Dynasty at Television formerly with Fox News, co anchor of America's News Headquarters on Saturday, based on the network's Washington, DC bureau, well, thank you, thank you to Kelly Wright, and thank you for sharing a part of your day with us. May God bless you, May his face shine upon you, May he be gracious unto you, and may you realize his piece abundantly. Thanks again and for being with us, God bless take care.