Finding Good News In A World Of Bad News

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Hello and welcome. This is Bill
Martinez and we are live. Great

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to have you along with us sharing
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Kelly White's going to be joining us
in just a few moments, the American

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reporter for the new tang Dynasty Television. I know you'll recognize Kelly from his

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Fox News days, who was a
co anchor of America's News Headquarters on Saturday

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was based in the network's Washington,
d C. Bureau because he just wanted

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to have a lot of fun,
and why not, we're going to be

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talking about you know, what's happening
in our world, a lot of I

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guess, for lack of a better
word, you just got to call it

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what it is, a lot of
evil, and it is disturbing, there's

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no doubt, and there's a question, you know, of hopelessness that seems

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to be on the rise because of
all the crime and the murder and just

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to you know, just seems to
be the the unwinding of civilizations. It's

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it's pretty crazy, isn't it.
Well, Kelly Wright joins us now,

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Kelly, welcome, Michelle. Good
to have you with us. Feel it's

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a pleasure to join you this hour. Thank you for having me on.

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Well, Kelly, uh, you
know, from your perspective, I mean,

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you're a TV anchorman. You're dealing
with the news on a daily basis,

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as I am, it's pretty crazy, isn't it. How do you

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define insanity? You keep doing the
same things over and over and over again,

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expecting a result or a solution that's
positive, and it just doesn't go

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that way. So yeah, to
your point, it is crazy, absolutely

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crazy. Yeah, it was interesting. I was reading a survey over the

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weekend, Kelly. He said,
forty percent over forty percent of America believe

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it or not, feel that we're
in the last days and the signs are

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there. You know, when you
look at it from a spiritual component,

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here a lot of like you say, a lot of darkness, a lot

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of insanity, a lot of chaos. You know, when you read the

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Word of God, you know it
points to these kind of signs that are

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becoming more and more evident. Indeed, if you look at things from an

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eschatological standpoint or apocalyptic standpoint, which
basically boils down to revelation revealing through the

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Word of God what is unfolding in
the last days and times. To your

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point, they're that forty percent of
Americans who believe that we are at the

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end of our rope, they would
believe, of course that the Bible,

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the Word of God, adheres to
that or at least validates that. Of

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course, no man knows the hour
or the day or the time according to

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scripture through the words of Jesus Christ
himself, and him going so far as

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to say that he doesn't even know
the hour, only to follow, but

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he has certainly given us the fair
warning of what's going on. Well,

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yeah, we need to be able
to understand the times. I mean there

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have been historically, whether we're the
Brians or the Issacar brothers, you know

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that they always looked into these things. They were observers of the signs of

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the times. And again we're not
predicting, but I think we need to

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heed some warning here. And I
think it's quite interesting that here we are,

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as we are engaged in the advent
season. Last week was the week

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of hope, this week is the
week of peace, and as we go

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through these successive weeks leading to Christmas
morning, when God gave us the greatest

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gift of all time. I don't
think that this is all just by circumstance.

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I believe, you know, you
can see God's hand on this right

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now, in the midst of what's
going on in Ukraine, what's happening in

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Israel. Here we are in this
advert season, coming against the darkness.

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Yeah. And isn't it good though, that we can have people who operating

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the news and believe in the good
news operating in the bad news world.

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It can actually elevate that truth and
that hope with conviction and courage and boldness,

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but also in a respectful and gentle
way, in order to let people

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know that no matter what's going on, if you trust in God and not

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a man, don't give up hope
because hope is always going to endure and

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prevail, and actually putting it in
that work where you're trusting in God that

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hope is invincible, right exactly.
Well, the thing is, Kelly,

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you know you feel the same way, do I mean, we care about

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our viewers and our listeners. You
know, we want to bless them.

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We want to, yes, you
know, objectively tell them what's going on,

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you know, what's happening in the
news, and and what we you

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know, what we can do about
it. Because I think at the conclusion

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of any kind of conversation, people
go, okay, so now what do

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we do? Right? Yeah,
So the question, that's a good question.

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You bring in the object of report. You tell people what's going on

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as it relates to Israel, or
as it relates to Ukraine and Russia and

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all that's going on. Even here
at home in the United States of America,

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where we're conflicted with mass shootings at
at a rapid pace, and just

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the uncertainty in our government, the
divisive politics that goes on. It just

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seems like, you know, all
hell is breaking loose. And no one's

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around to bring it in under control. But that's not true. That goes

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into what's going on. Yeah,
and the world can be a very fear

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mongering kind of place, but the
reality is, yeah, talk about the

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negative things that go on, but
then find that way to get from the

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problem to the solution, and let
the solution be rooted and grounded in truth

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as well as faith and hope and
love, because that is going to help

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every American household if they will trust
in God and not necessarily their government,

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but if they'll trust in God,
the Kingdom of God, then they'll have

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an answer that will also help them
have a mental clarity, peace of mind,

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sound judgment, love, and not
a spirit of fear. So that's

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what I try to do with my
show, America's Hope. I've been trying

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to do even when I was at
Fox. I was always trying to say,

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Okay, we've got these negative things
going on, let's not disciss that,

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but let's also a search for that
truth that's under the surface and that

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light that's shining through the darkness.
If we don't show that light though,

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both of us who are actually the
ones who are actually giving the news on

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a daily basis. And I understand
the news internership, have been working it

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for thirty plus years. I know
how objectivity is always part of our brand

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where you want to be able to
take in all sides. So there's a

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left side, there's a right side, and there's a wrong side, and

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there's a bad side, but there's
also the truth of God's kingdom. And

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that's what I had to grapple with
in my career, being able to look

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at right and wrong and good and
evil and reporting stories from a fair and

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balanced kind of way, which I
still seek to do and always will.

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But then, Bill, I always
had this frustration. I had this frustration

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of saying, yeah, you know, I'm giving you this news, but

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man, if I could just open
up and tell you what the truth of

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God's word is, right, that
might not be so concerned about what's going

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to happen tomorrow because you'll have this
folk that endures exactly well. And I

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think that's the challenge. Like you, I mean, I've been in the

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business for over fifty years, and
it's become notably challenging whenever you got into

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the ultimate answer, because you and
I understand the answer is a spiritual answer

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and when you are in secular media, and I can tell you I've been

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involved with even Christian groups that are
uncomfortable sometimes, you know, which is

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amazing to me because like, wait
a minute, you know, you have

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been You've been charged with the responsibility
of taking the good news to Jerusalem,

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Judas a Maria, the othermost parts
of the world. That's our responsibility.

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And God has blessed you with his
platform, and so it's And I was

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going to ask you how much of
a challenge that has been in your career

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because you've been involved with, you
know, just as I have with you

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know, secular entities that sometimes go
well, you know, tell you you

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may have overstepped the line a little
bit. I used to get that all

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the time, you know, so
I always knew I was I always knew

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I was doing good whenever I got
that phone call, you know, yeah,

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I get that and uh and and
now I you know, I'm really

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blessed. Throughout my career. I've
worked at the seven hundred Club, I've

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worked at CBN, and then I
had the freedom to to actually, you

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know, let it all, uh
get out into the open. And then

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I've worked for Secutor UH Networks and
stations and and all of them have been

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very respectful of my faith, and
I've been respectful of theirs. However,

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when I really started stepping into the
deep, buh, that's when I would

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get the you know, the rain
end. Let's rain them in, let's

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pull them in. Exactly. So
the network that I'm with now nt d

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UH is well as epic times.
I remember when they they heard about my

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program, America's Hope, and they
knew that I wanted to do this,

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and when they questioned me about you
know what, they didn't question me.

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They were saying, hey, you
know, we might want to try this,

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and I said, well, you
know, there's some people are going

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to be against this, and they
said, well, is it a religious

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show? I said no, but
it's a show that talks about hope and

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if you're in America based on our
Judeo Christian principles and values, faith will

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come into the equation. Notice I
didn't say religion. I absolutely hate that

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words, because so did Jesus.
Yes, exactly, I said faith will

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come into the equation and I don't
want to be afraid, afraid or shy

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away from that. So remember I
was giving them some of the critics version

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of what America's Hope would looked like. I remember one person telling me,

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why are you going to call it
America's Hope? I can just hear the

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conservative blowharts talking about this and waiving
the American flag, And to the credit

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of the NTD leadership, they looked
at me and said, well, what's

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wrong with hoop? And then they
said, and what's wrong with the American

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flag? Right? So I thought
about it, and I prayed about it,

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said okay, yeah, let's give
this the old College dry, but

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let's give it a real good try. And so this passed. July fourth,

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of course, the Declaration of Independence
and the Independence Day for America,

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we celebrated the launch of America's Hope, and we did it in New York

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City, and we talked about the
story of what unfolded at Saint Paul's Church

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exactly right there aground zero. It's
still standing today. And it happened,

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of course, in seventeen eighty nine. That's when George Washington, our first

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president, raised his hand not far
away from that church at Federal Hall and

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was inaugurated as the first President of
the United States. And then he said,

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let's walk over to Saint Paul's Church
for the inaugural Indaugro prayer service,

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and so e along with Alexander Hamilton
and Ben Franklin and all the founding fathers

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who were in New York City at
that time. Many people aren't aware of

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the fact that New York was actually
our first nation's capital. Exactly. It

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was great to start it from there
and then to tell the story the spiritual

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dimensions of how our founding of this
great nation took place. You know,

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from the Declaration of Independence, the
Bill of Rights, and then the US

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Constitution. We hold these truths to
be self up and that all men are

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created equal, and that we're endowed
by our creator with certain unailable rights,

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the rights to what life, liberty
and pursuit of happiness. Now where we

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all free back then will no history
will show that. But history does show

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is that we were able to take
the birth effect of slavery and turn that

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in to something evil and actually having
abology of that and then the abolition movement

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and then moving or moving forward is
our country perfect nose. So that's why

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the Constitution says in order to form
a more perfect union exactly. Yeah,

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it was that aspirational perspective, yes, that our founding fathers had that was

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really inspired by divine providence, which
George Washington cided time and again and the

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other founding fathers. But you know, the thing that was so unique about

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this country, going back to what
you were saying earlier, Kelly, right,

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was that, you know, this
is the first time where the people

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were going to be in charge.
It was the organizational chart was turned upside

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down. There is no king at
the top, there were no czars,

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there were no potentates. It was
going to be we the people. And

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you know what what responsibility for we
the people to orchestrate this, you know,

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this republic? And this is where
we have fallen short. See,

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it's a representative form of democracy,
but it doesn't abdicate your responsibility in order

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to affect the government itself. And
this is where we've gotten laxed over the

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decades and thought, Okay, we're
going to let these alleged elites take over.

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And now we have the rise of
elitism and they've marginalized the forgotten man

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and woman. And what's happened is
that instead of politics being downstream the culture,

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that paradigm has been flipped and now
you have the culture downstream politics,

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and we got the tail shaken the
dog here, Kelly, Well, we

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do, and we've forgotten one of
the most important credos of our nation,

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and that's in God we trust.
In addition to that government by the people

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and for the people, and when
the people are not being represented totally and

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with respect, by the way,
because there are many elite people who are

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not respecting the American people and not
hearing from the American people. And you

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just talked a few moments ago about
that study out there talking about how forty

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percent of Americans believe that we're witnessing
the end times. And then you look

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at George Barnett, who's done exceptional
research on the faith based community, the

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church, and talking about where we
are even in with regard to the church.

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So there are a lot of things
going on in our government institutions as

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well in our churches and in our
places of work where the truth is not

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being told. The truth has been
marginalized, and we have a lot of

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misinformation at propaganda, which is why
we have protests on college campuses for all

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the wrong aspects of why we should
be protesting. Yes, let's respect everyone

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freedom of speech, and their right
to free speech and their right to do

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the things that they've done in terms
of protesting. But when it comes to

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genocide, let's get that right.
And we saw recently that three college presidents

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of some very elite institutions got it
wrong exactly well, and one has stepped

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down and they're waiting on the other
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you see, what it speaks to, Kelly is the level of maturity.

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See, our nation has been done
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an assessment of where we are right
now. When you have three elite university

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presidents not knowing how to answer a
very academic question, that's almost as silly

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as a Supreme Court nominee not being
able to answer what a woman is what

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a woman is. See, this
is where we are right now. We're

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so unanchored, you know, from
the truth. We've exchanged the truth for

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a lie. I mean you're going
to have something. You know, this

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relative truth idea is a lie in
and of itself, because there is absolute

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truth. But we want to try
to think, you know, and argue

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differently. But we do this at
grave expense, because you might as well

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argue that gravity doesn't exist right,
that's right, that's right, and gravity

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does exist. Yeah, let's come
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right, yeah, or if you
want to, you know, like some

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of these people, it's so comical
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b type of stuff. Is that
you get gays, for example, who

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are you know, storming the streets
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the river to the sea, and
not even knowing what they're supporting. It's

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like, well, wait a minute, do you realize the people you're supporting

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by that slogan? If you were
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about the low gravity really quick because
they have been reputed to throw homosexuals off

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the top of buildings. Well,
you know, during the time that Isis

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was really really running rapid and beheading
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not only Christians, but they're also
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And I've reported on a lot of
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seeing how they treated one homosexual man. I'm trying to remember the exact location.

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It was somewhere near Syria, and
Isis have actually invited everyone to that

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center. They took that man to
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him to his death because of his
sexual preference. Here in America. That

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would not happen here in America.
There is a respect and appreciation for human

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life. The other thing that I've
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radical Islam, says I covered the
war in Iraq. I saw how the

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Sunnis and Shias and the insurgency that
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lot of problems for innocent people who
wanted freedom, Innocent people who were actually

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thinking the United States and other members
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to Iraq and getting rid of Saddam
Husseang as well as trying to open up

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the doors for freedom. Now politically, looking back on that, we did

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a lot wrong there in terms of
how we moved forward. But the freedom

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that many people were looking for,
they were actually getting that. And then

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to see how things went sideways in
terms of the rise of the insurgency and

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abus A Cob I watched him behead
Nick Berg. I was one of the

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reporters reported that, and I had
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because this is what this group was
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all that to lead up to this. The propaganda machine of these of these

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terrorist groups and organizations, what's fueling
that one. It's a hatred for anything

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foreign to what they believe, and
they do want to establish a caliphate at

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all expenses. And it's not just
in Israel. It isn't just in other

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parts of the country in terms of
Ukraine and Russia. But it's also happening

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in Nigeria. I just recently reported
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how sinister it's become in Nigeria for
Christians, most notable coomers. They are

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on the one the wanted liss by
radical Islamic groups like Bogo Haram. There's

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a faction of al Qaeda there,
a faction of Isis there, and they

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are literally running throughout these Christian populated
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raping women. And this is this
is the kind of thing that's going on,

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and not many people are really reporting
it exactly, and we have to

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put that news out there right well, and uh, and this is this

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is important. This is happening.
I mean right now, there's thirty two

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wars around the world right now.
That's going on, Kelly, and as

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you know, and you know,
it's hard to keep up with it,

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and it's hard also to think,
Okay, who do you help here.

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I mean, we're in the midst
of, you know, dealing with Ukraine

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and Russia, which is so bizarre
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we're supporting both sides, just like
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our foreign policy, our our State
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it doesn't make sense. And again, this is where you know, the

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government and the manifestation of our policies, and that should be representative of the

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culture. Seeing most people think that
it is until they find out that it's

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not. That's why they were shocked
when you know, some of this information

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from Snowden and others was coming out
revealing, you know, some of the

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things that America was doing all in
the name of regime change or you know,

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liberty and this sort of thing,
you know, getting involved in cultures

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that have been going on for thousands
of years. And here you've got to,

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you know, a country that's been
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like we know better, well,
you know there there is the threat of

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American cockiness or conceit or arrogance,
if you will, and some of our

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leaders have done that. And I'd
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sides of the aisle and Republican and
Democrat administrations and and and really when I

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say the blame, I think the
blame is mostly due to a short sighted

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this that we have in terms of
foreign policy, and that we don't always

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listen to each other. One of
the problems that we had in nine to

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eleven year recall is that we didn't
have adequate information sharing, you know,

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within our own country and our own
agencies. How ridiculous is that? Right?

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And I will say this though,
I will say that, and I

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have to make this very clear.
You know, I could sit here and

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point fingers in America through and through, but I really think the finger that

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I have to point the most is
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say that to every American citizen.
If you don't like what's going on in

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this country, take a look in
the mirror, exactly, because the greatness

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of our nation begins at the homes
of our people. And if home is

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where the heart end, then what's
in my heart? Do I love God

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with all my heart? And so
do I love my neighbor as myself.

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And my neighbor may not look like
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But is he or she? Will
I speak to them? Will I

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be there to help them? I
live in a very diverse neighborhood. I

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have neighbors who are from every walk
of life, every different queue and nationality

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and ethnicity, and every type of
faith. I respect them, I love

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them. If they need me,
I'm going to be there for them.

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But that's important. We've got to
be able to start being our brother's keeper,

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not our brother's killer, right,
And that really comes from dialogue.

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The greatest thing that God wants all
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Him and then a relationship with each
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the people. That means that we
have a responsibility to vote people out of

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office that we don't like or favor, or we believe are not doing what

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we want as a nation. And
then we also have to work together.

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Not just talking about presidential politics or
or congressional politics. I'm talking about even

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politics about who you're choosing to be
the representative of your child's school exactly.

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Be that proactive and proactive in a
sense that we're going to reach out to

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help each other. You know,
we just Clarksville, Tennessee, outside of

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Nashville. You know, I was
so happy to see people saying I'm safe,

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I'm safe, I'm safe. I
have friends in Nashville, and I

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was just trying to see when we
have disasters, America is the most benevolent

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Oh my goodness, yes, exactly
the planet. And so my point I'm

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really trying to get to here is
that build the most important thing I think

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America's need to know is that they
are a beacon of hope to the rest

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of the world, and we should
not forget that. We must be a

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beacon of hope to each other exactly. Now. I think it dovetails with

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what we said earlier, Kelly,
and that is that it does start with

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us individually. That is the most
dramatic thing that we can do if we

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take care of ourselves and we repent
and come back to God. Well,

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I mean, I mean God right
there. Man, He said a very

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big word repent, Because there are
a lot of churches in America where the

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preachers ain't preaching repentance, and a
lot of people don't want to hear what

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do you mean repent? What does
that even mean? You know? What

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do you mean reconciliation and restoration?
You know? And that's a good question.

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That's a good question. Though,
if you don't know what repent means,

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you've got to understand this is prescriptive
with God. If you think that

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you're going to get this thing turned
around. I mean, we've got two

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thirds of the country says we're on
the wrong track. Great observation. Okay,

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what does the right track look like? And we've been saying time and

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again we need to return to first
principles. Well, first principle starts with

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our relationship with God. That's that's
what you know, gave the birth to

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this nation, this idea, honored
the prayers of pilgrims, and God blessed

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us with this great American idea,
and it was up to us, we

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the people, to cherish that and
honor that birthright right. And we know

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how God feels when you do not
honor your birthright. He wasn't real happy

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with Esau when he disregarded his birthright. In fact, you said that Jacob,

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he loved Esa, he hated and
he hated Esau because he disrespected his

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birthright. So there's got to be
something significant about that, Kelly Well.

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And the significance goes all the way
down to how this America that we loved

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so dearly was created. You see. That's what sets us apart from every

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other nation on the planet, with
exception of Israel. And that's the fact

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that we made a fact in making
that declaration of independence and that constitution with

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God Almighty. And there's no other
document like that except for what God made

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and covenant with Israel. So there's
the linkage. And many people are protesting

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they don't understand that God centered,
kingdom focused linkage that we have with Israel,

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which is why there is this symbiotic
relationship and why and Iran can say

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we want to go after the little
Satan, which they view as Israel,

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and then the big Satan, which
they view as America. Exactly how does

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that happen. It happens because of
the Judeo Christian principles that went into our

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founding document. The founding fathers had
looked at all forms of government and they

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realized that the only form of government
that was going to work would be one

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that would acknowledge God, our creator, and then our responsibilities as his subjects

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here on earth to actually be his
ambassadors. That's what the Pilgrims really had

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in mind. Right, we could
get it. We can talk about all

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the things that went wrong. Well, every human being is flawed. Man,

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I made so many sins, and
that's why saying Lord, thank you

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for your forgiveness, find repentance,
thank you for salvation through Jesus Christ on

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the cross of Calvary, and knowing
you in the power of your resurrection and

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the fellowship of your suffering, which
means what there's victory in my relationship with

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God, then with my wife and
family, and then with my friends and

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my neighbors, and then even with
my enemies. And I've been in some

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situations where I've had to deal with
enemies and I'd rather deal with them in

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love than on the battlefields of the
world. But I realized that wars have

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to be fought because freedom ain't free. That's right, and so we've got

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to protect it with our very life. Realizing that the men and women who

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serve in arm's way of our United
States Armed Forces, I plau them each

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and every day for what they do
because less than one percent of Americans are

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actually serving in the United States military, you know, and they have to

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willfully decide to join. And when
they raised their hands, and I've served

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before, when they raised their hands, they're dedicating their awt to protecting this

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nation. Right Well, Kelly,
just like you when you take that oath

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of office, which I did when
I became a marine. Is that oath

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is till death to his part.
It never expires, does it? No,

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it really doesn't. And that's,
you know, to that point.

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That's the other reason why when when
what happened on October seventh, you know,

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two months ago in Israel, you
saw many people even here in America

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saying, I've got to go to
Israel because they had taken an oath the

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servant in the Israeli Defense forts and
many of them went there. You even

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saw Americans here looking what was happening
in Ukraine and Russia saying I've got to

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go. And as you talked about
before, Bill, there at least thirty

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two wars. And that goes back
to exactly the way we opened up this

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conversation about the forty percent who say
man we're at the end times. And

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Jesus says himself in Matthew twenty four, you know, in twenty five,

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you know what this time would look
like, wars and rumors of wars.

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And then you've got Paul the Apostle
over in tewod Timothy three, and he's

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advising Timothy what's going to happen these
last days and times? And perilous times

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will come and men will be lovers
of pleasure rather than lovers of God,

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of a form of godliness but denies
power, always hearing the truth and never

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understanding. And said, man,
is that not where we are today?

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mean that that idea, you know, going back to what you're talking about

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about, you know, not having
a relationship with your neighbor because your heart

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is so cold and callous that you
have no capacity to love your neighbor.

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You know that that idea shudders me. Kelly, I don't know about you.

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Right Well, it's a pathetic state
of affairs when we allow ourselves to

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succumb to our own selfish ways and
selfish desires. That's part of the problem

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we have. Uh, if we're
going to point fingers at what's going on

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one of the problems again, going
back to looking at the man in the

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mirror. When we do wrong,
we need to right the wrong. I

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think, you know, doctor King
sentat very clearly that darkness can I drive

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out darkness. Only light can do
that. And hate cannot drive out hate.

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Only love can do that. We
have to set ourselves up to atmosphere

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of serving each other. And what
it was really echoing at that point was

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a version CoA Losges about how we
need to set our affections and our desires

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and our aspirations on things above.
Yes, will not you know, rust

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or be stolen? And what's the
greatest gift we can give each other to

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love each other exactly? Yeah?
Amen, Well, Kelly, I just

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so appreciate your heart, and I'm
getting to know you a little bit more,

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and I'm appreciating this time our viewers
as well, because you know this

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is true, and this is what
will set you free. This is what

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will get you out of the darkness
and the chaos. It's like I always

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go back to the opening verses of
the Book of Genesis. In the beginning

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God and and and how the spirit
of God hovered over the darkness and and

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I and I see that being a
bit of analogous, uh, with with

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our very souls is how the spirit
of God hovered over the darkness of our

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very soul, you know, to
bring us into the light and uh,

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you know, and it is such
a blessing that it's it's hard to put

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in words, but it is a
personal experience that we want everybody to enjoy

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and as much as possible this side
of heaven, because I believe that,

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you know, as watchmen on the
wall, we're going to be accountable.

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You know, we're accountable to get
that gospel message out there. And that's

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why I appreciate you coming on today
so that we could, you know,

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we can talk about these things,
because there's not many shows like this or

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platforms like this where we can be
so open about our faith. But see,

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this is where the answer lies.
It doesn't it doesn't lie in a

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political figure like you said when we
first started this conversation. It doesn't lie

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in anything that is temporary or you
know, associated with the temporal aspect of

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our life here on this plane.
We have to look to the eternal because

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that's that's where that's where we're going
to be at from you know, for

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eternity. I mean, you know, here maybe seven you know, if

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you're lucky, maybe eighty years of
life. But you know, eternity is

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a long time, indeed, it
is. And the question is how do

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we want to spend it? Yeah, and who we want to spend it

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with? Well, spend it with. So it's better to invest in God

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now and love him right now.
And you know, the thing is,

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I just want to get back to
that point about America and some of the

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things that we have done. We've
done a lot of great things where the

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most generous nation on the planet,
we're still seen as a beacon of hope

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to many people, which is why
so many people are trying to come here

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legally and illegally. And then there
are many people who want to attack us

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and bring us down because of what
we've been blessed with. God has richly

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blessed this nation, and we shouldn't
resigned that. The problem that we sometimes

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have in our foreign policy and the
way we do things through our geopolitics is

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that we have this we have developed
this arrogance and this pride, and pride

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always goes before a fall, and
I would. I would caution our leaders

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to really pay attention when Senate Chaplain
Berry Black is having a prayer service,

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get in there soak up some prayers. Same thing with our members of Congress

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because they have a house chat.
I think it would be a good thing

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if members of Congress could do that
more often, and members of all of

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our state legislators could do that as
well as our city council members, rather

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than picking each other apart because one's
liberal or one's conservative, but one's Democrat

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or one's Republican. It's time that
we become kingdom minded, and that means

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you've got to be able to,
first of all, have an understanding of

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whose kingdom we're actually serving. Is
it going to the kingdom of righteousness,

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peace and join the Holy Ghost,
or is it going to be a kingdom

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of evil, treachery and tearing each
other apart through killing each other. I

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think I'd rather take righteousness, peace
and join the Holy Ghost. And I'd

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also like to take on that spirit
of humility that Solomon talked about when they

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were dedicating the temple and also saying, if my people were called by my

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name, would humble themselves and turn
from their wicked way, seek my face

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and pray. Then from heaven I
will hear their prayer and to give their

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sins and heal their land. Our
land needs healing, we know, yes,

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exactly well. And the thing what
you point out here, see this

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is the power of prayer when we
come together, is that you must approach

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God with humility and truth. And
when you do so, that's when the

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hearts of men change and we realize
that it's not about us, just like

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you said, Kelly, very appropriately, it's about serving one another. And

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you've got to imagine the model in
paradigm. I mean, you've been around

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it in DC all these years,
and it is sad in some regards because

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I see these politicians who come in
and their freshman year and their first orientation

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class, and they're all idealistic and
eager to serve their constituency back home,

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and they come into the meat grinder
and they lay it out very clearly saying,

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Okay, you made it here,
and you know, guess what your

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number one job is and they think, well, to serve our constituency.

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They go, No, your number
one job is to get reelected. And

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you're gonna say that, right,
yeah, So so right off the bat,

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you're starting on the wrong foot,
and so anyway, go go ahead.

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And I was just quite agree with
you, because that becomes the mantra,

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get reelected at all costs. Make
sure you put the right people in

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place, you sit on the right
committees, you make the right kind of

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points. Not scoring points with your
constituents so much, but scoring points with

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how you get the lobbyist to give
you more money for that next campaign.

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So it's always the next campaign as
opposed to let's get America right exactly.

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Let's get America on points so that
we can rise and become more than just

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a beacon of hope, but a
beacon of love and freedom and peace,

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not only for ourselves but for the
rest of the world. Let's export the

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goodness and kindness of this country and
the greatness of this country, as opposed

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to exporting some of the confusion that
we've done because of what we've which leads

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to destruction. You know, I
talked to an African president at the turn

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of the century in nineteen ninety nine, Matthew Karaku, who at one point

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had been a dictator for the country
beneath and when communism. Communism fell,

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he made his country, jurned his
country to a constitutional republic, and a

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00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:34.880
young pastor led that former dictator to
a relationship with Jesus Christ. And then

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all Matthew Caracu could do was talk
about this new found love that he had

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for someone that was greater than him. Wow. And he began to feel

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that he needed to apologize for the
misdeeds of his ancestors past. Well what

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misdeeds were those, you might ask, was the misdeeds of the trans Atlantic

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slave trade. And he invited the
president of Ghane at the time, Gerald

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rawlind So Ghana and benin vened this
conference, and they set it for December

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nineteen ninety nine because they wanted to
make sure they would go into the new

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century with brokenness and healing and reconciliation
and repentance. Just exactly how I was

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there. I saw that with my
own two eyes, was working for a

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small well, not a small station, but to have wavy TV in the

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Norfolk, Virginia area. And I'm
going to make this for a short out

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truncated. At the end of the
day, when he had all these descendants

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of slave traders, slave merchants and
everything, people who were wealthy were saying

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that the wealth that I enjoyed today, I fear was because of my forefathers

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and slaving people. And then Karaku
himself said, we sold our own into

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captivity, and Gerald Rawlins of Ghana
said, we didn't just sell our We

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didn't sell our feeboa a week,
we sold our best and it led to

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a brains room that we have in
Africa to day. The President, Matthew

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Carrick, who stood before that audience, he said, I want to apologize

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to you for the misdeeds of our
past, this dasharly deed inflicted upon mankind.

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I apologized to you in the name
of Jesus Christ. I seek your

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forgiveness. There was silence in the
room and then you could hear whimpering and

526
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:27.199
then crying, and I can emotional
talking about it now. But in a

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private audience with him along with some
other members from America from our team,

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I asked the President, said,
President character, now that you've done this,

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what's your message to America. He
said, Americans must always understand they

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are a beacon of hope to the
rest of the world. Then I asked

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him and said, more specifically than
since you apologize for the misdeeds of the

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ancestors past in not initiating the slave
trade, but perpetrating by selling their own

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into captivity. What's your message to
African and Americamericans? Build? What he

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00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.440
told me? Knock me off my
chair? He said, you must tell

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African Americans never see themselves as victims, but as victors. We see you

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as modern day Joseph's who helped build
the global economy we enjoy today. Wow.

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Wow, is that powerful? I've
never been the same since. Does

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it mean? And I'm not a
perfect man, flawed. I'm a sinner

539
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.360
saved by grace. And I know
a lot of people will pump me up

540
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:31.559
and say, hey, yeah,
this guy, this guy. Then I

541
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.159
had my situation with thoughts. I
still love the people, their thoughts,

542
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:43.760
news. But more importantly, I
love God and I love that word repentance.

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Yes, and I love that word
of modern, modern day Josephs because

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I recognize that black and white,
we have built this nation together, Native

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Americans, we have built this nation
together exactly like what a message can if

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00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:10.639
that message alone, Kelly could get
out and impact our culture here in America.

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00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.719
You see, that was that was
inspiration that had to come, That

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insight had to come from the throne
room of God. That was revelatory,

549
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:25.079
right, yeah, yeah, revelatory
to him. And then just an analogy

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and if African American, if if
black youth and even older men and women

551
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.400
understood that they were perceived as being
modern day Joseph who helped build the global

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00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:43.920
economy. The one thing I did
when I got back, before I put

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the story on the air, I
went to Jamestown, which was the first

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settlement, and I lost the curators. This experiment called America. Would it

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00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:57.119
have worked without the input of Africans? And they looked at me and said,

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00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:04.920
no, no way, because of
the ingenuity and knowing how to develop

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00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.920
the cash crop tobacco and then cotten
and and then of course it oftenly turned

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into not just the ingenuity and the
mind that we put into it, but

559
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it also turned into you know,
the labor the channel slavery, which was

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which was just the mocking nations and
the wrong and misdeeds of men, you

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know, rather than realizing we can
do more together if we respect each other

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and respectfully move this nation forward.
Well, greed got in the way,

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sin got in the way. Let's
call it what it is. Slavery was

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sin and we're getting through that,
but we're still dealing with the vestiges of

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it and people are trying to say, oh, I forget about it.

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Well, there's still this PTSD that
goes down through the generations. What Matthew

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Kerricu did so liberating because of what
Christ did through that apology was bring people

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together. And then what he revealed
to me, Wait, you're modern day

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Joseph. If people understand their DNA
and who's in their DNA, then that

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changes their whole perception. Say,
America is going through an identity crisis right

571
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.719
now, that's all. We don't
know what we're doing walking around left and

572
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.280
right kind of bewildered and be fuddled. If we get back to a kingdom

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mindset exactly and realize that we're we're
better together than apart, the future is

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definitely when they could be righter,
well as much as it can be this

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side of heaven. But you know, when the King of Kings and Lord

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00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.960
of lords takes his rightful throne,
all that will be settled, right,

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and these things that Caricu referred to, I mean, wow, I mean

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this is just so uplifting and encouraging
because it reminds you again, go back

579
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to the word of God. What
men, you know what Satan meant for

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00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:04.360
bad, God makes for good right
for those who are called, who love

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God, who are called according to
His purpose. God. God still his

582
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.039
hand is still in this Oh yeah, right, and with all that was

583
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.559
going on with slavery, and here
you are, I mean, his his

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perception to look at it is modern
day Joseph's. And well, I'll tell

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you that that gives you a whole
different perspective about the role that not only

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blacks, but other minorities that were
responsible for building the infrastructure of this great

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00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.840
country and the things that we enjoy, right, yeah, yeah, you

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00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.599
know. And one thing that we
have to do as America is we have

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to educate ourselves. We have to
travel, we have to read, we

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00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.039
have to study, and then we
have to respect the other cultures that help

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build this great nation because we are
I like to say, we're a melting

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00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:53.880
pot of people. Oh yeah,
without a doubt, every ethnicity brings something

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of value to this country. I
was just my driver the other day in

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New York City was from El Salvador, and he talked about how the leadership

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there is cracking down MS thirteen right
exactly punishing there. I'm there saying if

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00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:15.760
anyone's a member of MS thirteen,
you're facing thirty years in prison, no

597
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:22.559
questions asked. And the result and
the net result of that was what And

598
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.400
then that result of that is that
they're cutting down the crime. He says

599
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.119
that he's exactly exactly and that's what
and that's what needs to be done in

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Guatemala as well. But the point
where that he was trying to make,

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he said, he looked at me, and I introduced myself to him.

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00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.280
He says, Kelly, let me
tell you something, as as a foreigner

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00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:44.159
who came to this country, I
don't get it. I don't know why

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you guys don't understand what a beautiful
country you have. I love this country.

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00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.079
This country gave me an opportunity to
make six figures. And I don't

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00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:58.360
have a degree, and I've got
enough now to take care of my mother.

607
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.039
And she's in you know, she's
doing well there. And I have

608
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.800
a place there, and I have
a place here, and I work hard,

609
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.719
and I believe in God, and
I believe in this nation called America.

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And I said, man, that's
the kind of story. It was

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beautiful, you see. But that
and those stories are part of the Naked

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City, as they say, is
you know that series that we grew up

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with. It's out there, whether
it's stories like this or you know,

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a situation of about abortion, other
things that have happened not that have not

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fared so well, you know,
for us in this country. But you

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know, I'm with you, Kelly. We can have hope because the hope

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giver is still in charge and and
last time I checked, he still gets

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the last word right, absolutely absolutely. You know. Look, I could

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talk to you forever. I know
you don't have forever to talk to me

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until we're going to happen together.
But yeah, we talked about abortion.

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So let me let me just bring
in something I had recently. Okay,

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we've got we've got about it.
We've got about a minute left. So

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I'm I just threw that out there
and I go, oh my god,

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Okay, I'll solve this in a
minute. So one lady said she was

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She's from Atlanta, African American woman. She said, look, raruthur King

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Junior said he had a dream.
Why are we trying to abort the dream?

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Yeah? Wow, believe well,
sadly, we're not trying. We

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are. We have been one hundred
million innocents have been murdered because of the

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abortion industrial complex. And this is
all part and parcel of the truth that

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we need to deal with, we
need to repent over because God has given

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us his word that if his people, his people who are called by His

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name, will humble themselves and pray
turn from their wicked ways, then God

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will hear us. He will hear
us, He'll forgive us our sins and

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heal our land. What a glorious
day that will be, Kelly Wright,

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I appreciate you inviting me on.
You know, I'm a journalist, but

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I'm a good news man, all
leaving the power of the good news.

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Amen, opportunity. Well, I
love that, Kelly Wright. Thank you,

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Thank you so much for being with
us. Continue to be blessed and

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look forward to our paths crossing again, as I'm sure it will. It

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would be my pleasure. God bless
you, God bless you. Kelly Right,

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the American reporter for The New Tang
Dynasty at Television formerly with Fox News,

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co anchor of America's News Headquarters on
Saturday, based on the network's Washington,

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DC bureau, well, thank you, thank you to Kelly Wright,

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and thank you for sharing a part
of your day with us. May God

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bless you, May his face shine
upon you, May he be gracious unto

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you, and may you realize his
piece abundantly. Thanks again and for being

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with us, God bless take care.