FBI Director Wray Says It’s All Red Lights Of Danger For America

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FOURCY Radio. Well, hello and
welcome. This is Bill Martinez and we

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are live. Great to have you
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day. For more information on the
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Martinez Show dot com. John Guandola
is going to be joining us in just

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a moment, the counter terrorism expert, former FBI hent and co author of

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Sharia The Threat to America. We're
going to talk national security. The headline

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here, as FBI Director Ray says, it's all red lights of danger for

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America and why not for all that
we're hearing open borders as many as twelve

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thousand last week on a couple of
days, illegal immigrants coming into the country.

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On average, we're talking about five
to six thousand illegal immigrants entering the

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United States illegally on a daily basis. It's no wonder our borders overwhelmed.

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It's no wonder that Congress is holding
back the purse on giving money to Ukraine

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without addressing the southern border. I
say Ukraine and the Israel is also in

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that package of debate as well.
The fact of the matter is the dangers

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are clear, they're imminent, and
they're no longer existential. John Guandola,

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welcome to the show. Good to
have you with us, sir. Thank

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you, Bill, It's great to
be on with you as always. Well,

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John, you have been for decades
sounding the alarm, and clearly the

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administration right now doesn't care about an
alarm. As you and I discussed the

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last time, this is happening on
purpose, by design. You can't say

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it's a level of incompetence because I
think you give them too much credit.

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They are doing what it is that
they want to do, whether it's Ma

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orc As, Joe Biden, Kamala
Harris, the whole cabal. Right,

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that's absolutely right, and as you
and I have talked about on this show,

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everything we've been experiencing the last five
to ten years in the United States.

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Is the intentional outcome of these hostile
movements, the Communist movement, the

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Jahati movement, their collaborators and their
financiers, and it's all been coming to

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fruition these last few years. Who's
at the top of the heap? Is

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it the World Economic Forum? The
globalists? Who are the main string pullers

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here? John Well? In the
United States, the Democrat leadership is You

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can make a very strong argument,
and I do that the Democrat Party has

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been taken over I would argue for
more than two decades by the communist movement

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in the United States. You just
look at their platform, you look at

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their actions at mimics those things.
At the international level, absolutely you've got

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but it's more than just the World
Economic Forum, but definitely they are a

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main driver because they're completely enmeshed and
working directly with the leadership of both the

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communist movements and the Islamic movement.
You've literally got one of the most senior

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leaders in the global Islamic movement,
the Secretary General of the Muslim World League,

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Muhammad Alissa, working directly with the
World Economic Form and with major parts

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of the international communist movement. So
here's at the top of the Jahadi food

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chain, working with the klaud Schwab
and the top of the one world government

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tyrannical World Economic Forum, and the
World Economic Forum is working directly with leaders

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in the United States, North America, Europe, Asian and elsewhere and has

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trained them. You've got people like
you mentioned Director Ray of the FBI participated

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in the last couple of War Economic
Forum conferences. So you know, it's

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a mess. But who's at top
of the food chain. It depends on

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whether we're talking at the international level, but whether we're talking in the United

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States level, it's Barack Obama and
the Democrat Party. And really equal to

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that is the Republican leadership, who
is holding the door open for everything the

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Democrats and the Communists and Jahatis are
doing. It is amazing to think how

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our country has been so hijacked,
John, And that's a shock to people,

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whether it's Trevor Lauden and his extensive
research that he's been reporting on and

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talking about, how the communists have
inculcated every branch of government. Over one

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hundred card caring communists are elected officials
it makes you wonder how duplicitous they are.

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And you don't have to wonder very
long, because the fact of the

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matter is they are. Though they
put their hand on a Bible and swear

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allegiance to protect our country from all
enemies, born and domestic, it's as

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if their fingers are crossed behind their
back as they make this false vow.

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And this is the kind of stuff
that has been going on, like you

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said, for decades, and it
has permeated every aspect of our lives.

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I mean so much so that here
recently, just even over the persecution of

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Jews in America, we have three
Ivy League schools that can't even call it

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for what it is. One finally
did and she stepped down, but the

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other two are holding ground right now. Harvard, I guess has decided to

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hold on to their president. But
you know, this really speaks of such

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an antithical philosophical position that is against
one hundred percent of our constitutional rights.

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Well, that's right, And so
there's two big things you bring up there.

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First, the at the university and
collegiate level. It's been over seventy

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years that the Communists have gone into
the United States. University collegiate system and

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penetrated that they're now into the elementary
school, junior high, high school level.

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They created many of these teachers' unions
and other organizations. You know the

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Google Classroom that's now very popular.
What does that allow those who want to

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control the narrative to do well.
It takes away the creativity and initiative of

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teachers and allows the leadership at the
national level, through Google Classroom, to

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say, here's what you should teach, here's the format you should teach it.

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And again, if you don't use
this, then we're not giving you

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federal funding. I mean it's always
tied to dollars. And so what you

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mentioned at the beginning, I think
people are shocked when they realize how coordinated

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the effort is and how advanced it
is. Well, and as you say,

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I mean they've taken over they educate. Well, that happened at the

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turn of the last century when Dewey, you know, who's known as the

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father of public education. I mean
just a little bit. You don't even

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have to go into a deep dive, and you understand philosophically where this guy

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was coming from. So it's no
wonder, but it was all part of

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that attitude of a slow, consistent, steady walk through the institutions, and

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here they are today, and it
seems that things are moving so much faster,

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John, because we're beyond the tipping
point. We're on the down side

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of the hill and picking up speed
as we're going down and crashing and burning.

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I would argue that's true, and
I think it is going to be

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very difficult to turn this around,
but I believe it's possible. Certainly,

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it would be nice to have God's
direct intervention, But have we done anything

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to deserve it. We're still murdering
babies in this country. We are still

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allowing corrupt we're voting for the people
are putting into power people that are corrupt,

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people that provide individuals and leadership phosicians
that provide the citizens whatever they want

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with those sense of responsibility or duty
as a citizen, right, I think,

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so long as the people are acting
in this way, we're really we're

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asking for the whole thing to come
down. Now, those people who are

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patriots, and I believe there are
a lot of them, really need to

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understand, as you and I have
discussed on this show previously, it's at

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the local county level, that people
have to flush the bad people out,

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the communist jihatis, their financiers,
and their collaborators, and re establish the

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founding principles in elementary schools, junior
high schools, high schools, in the

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business community, in the churches,
in the synagogues. And until those things

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are done, there's going to be
no impact on what the enemy is doing.

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John Gundola is this is whether it's
the counter terrorism expert, former FBI

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agent, John, this is why
you've been training people at a local level,

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because it's most effective. Things can
happen with incredible rapidity, but there

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needs to be employed a specific strategy
here to get you the net results.

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And we're losing time here. We
don't have a lot of time to waste.

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We've got to make up for lost
time because you know, shame on

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us. We the people thought we
could trust the elected officials. We didn't

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realize that. You know, we're
seeing it manifest clearly, even though the

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Democrats resist that there's no evidence.
I think there's enough evidence to see that

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the Biden family has been bought and
sold and they're corrupt. Okay, and

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it's not just the Biden family.
The fact that You've got so many Democrats

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running interference and supporting this kind of
behavior. Really is a telltale sign.

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In my humble opinion, John,
It's like this thing is so pervasive in

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the ruling class that the in class
can't see it. I've been asking forever

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here you know that you've got this
consistent forty percent that supports Joe Biden,

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And I'm going, where are they? Who are they that would support you

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know, energy dependents, would support
less jobs, support inflation, support the

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cost of our living the way that
it has accelerated under the leadership of Joe

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Biden, not to mention open borders
and what boats down the road for America's

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citizen, who would support that?
And then, of course last week we

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saw the debate between Gavin Newsom and
Ron DeSantis, and I go, there's

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one, there's one of the forty
percent that is all in for this insanity,

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and he is the apparent heir standard
bearer for the Democratic Party. If

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Joe Biden should hiccup, there's lots
of people who believe that he should be

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the candidate of choice as you know, a potential you know, president,

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if not soon then down the road. Yeah, So there's a lot to

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unpack there. I agree with your
assessment. I would say you mentioned and

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we talked about this is what they're
doing is intentional. If we just go

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back, not too far, just
look at the last seven or eight years,

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and what we see is from the
time mister Trump came into office and

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even before the Russia collusion law.
And there's that, and we have all

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the evidences on the table now that
the leadership of the Democrat Party broke federal

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law. And in addition to that, and I would argue for those wondering

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how they break federal law, because
I think there were a number of federal

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laws broken when you so you've got
first say this, they said one thing

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under oath and then they said something
publicly that's not a violation of the law,

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but it shows you that they know
they were lying. But when they

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took action as official action, as
a part of their duties, then they

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are abusing power, which is a
violation of federal law. And we put

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members of Congress in jail for that. And I would argue that this is

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a part of a criminal conspiracy that
can be handled under the Rico statutes racketeering

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statutes to conspire to overthrow the president
of the United States as well as overthrow

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the US government, because it's part
of a much larger operation to do that.

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And these are the same personalities,
the same thirty or forty people that

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are involved, and many of them
are members of the US Senate and US

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Congress or in other positions of power, like a level positions. So you've

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got that as well as like James
Comy, and Andrew McCabe and Peter Struck

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who took actions that were definitely in
violation of the law. They lied to

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federal judge, they lied about the
affidavit, all of that stuff that's all

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documented. We all know that.
Now, now walk forward when you have

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fifty one members of the intelligence community, to include the Director of National Intelligence,

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five CIA directors, the General Council
for the CIA, the General Council

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for the NSA, the directors of
the National counter Terrorism Center, Secretary of

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Defense. This level of people who
lie intentionally to the public that the idea

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that there's something criminal that will be
exposed on Hunter Biden's lap. They call

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it Russia disinformation. They intentionally lied, this is the key. They intentionally

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lied to advance an enemy operation whose
goal is to advance the communist Chinese,

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to advance the communist movement in the
United States, and because they're working seamlessly

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at the local and national level with
the Jihadis to advance operations and criminal networks

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and movement capital m movements whose goal, whose stated goal is to overthrow the

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US government. These people are in
violation law. This is sedition, it's

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treason, it's conspiracy to commit a
murder, it's money laundering. There are

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so many criminal violations in here,
and it's not going to get fixed at

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the federal level because nowhere in the
Republican Party is anybody doing really anything of

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substance about it. And again I
want to be clear, the Republicans are

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not only not doing anything, they
are holding the door open for all of

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these enemies. Yes, yeah,
John, it's I mean talk about conspiracy,

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because that's the thing that comes to
mind. I mean, they keep

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trying to pin the label of you
know, conspiracy and insurrection on Donald Trump

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when it is they themselves. I
mean, there are so many bodies of

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conspirators lying around you can't even count
them all, you know, from from

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the Democratic side, and to your
point, I agree, the Republicans are

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compromised to you know, to the
point that you know, at some point,

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you know, like the revolutionaries of
our founding John, they had to

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pull it all on the line,
you know, their reputation, their treasure,

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their very lives. And you know, I think we could be at

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that defining moment now, and and
I believe that if any of that's going

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to happen, it would happen more
likely on the side of the Republican than

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it is the Democrats. The Democrats
are so there's such ideologues, and they've

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rendered themselves, as Jordan Peterson would
say, stupid, to the point that

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forget about the Constitution, forget about
their constituency, forget about their fellow American.

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It is about a whole different agenda
that is wrapped in conspiracy that involves

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every aspect of government and even the
mainstream media, social media, how they've

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piled on to offer cover and to
ignore and really abandon their reason to exist.

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They are mi i A in their
duty to the American people, which

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is to hold the government accountable,
is it not. Yeah, that's exactly

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right. And so it's interesting when
when people say, you know, these

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guys, these men, these women, whether it's your mayor, your governor,

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the president, you're you know,
member of the House or US Senate.

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When we complain about the problem is
the American people, and the American

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people have failed to do their duties
and failed to bear the responsibilities of ensuring

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those in position of governance are adhering
to the standards of the Declaration, the

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Ideal and doing what you said at
the top of the show, swearing an

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oath to protect and defend against all
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And what we see is a large
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percentage in the Senate who are traders, flat out traders. They are communists,

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they're Jihadis, they're anti Americanists.
Some of them are Satanists. These

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are people that are perpetrators of evil
in the system, and they're in violation

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of their ows and they should have
been removed from power. And many Americans

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don't know what to do. And
that, honestly, Bill, that's why

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for so long, for so many
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my colleagues, we've been working to
train citizens at the local level because

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I learned over the last eighteen to
twenty years, you know, I was

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very optimistic and idealistic. That when
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I was working with members of Congress
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FBI directors who were good people,
that Hey, when myself and one of

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my colleagues, who are the first
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the real threats first the Jahati threats. Why was all Kainda doing what it

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was doing, the Muslim brotherhood movement
in the Jahati movement in the United States

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and Europe? Why were they doing
it? How were they doing it?

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And getting people to understand it was
very different. It's much different than just

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people blowing things up or flying planes
into buildings. They're wearing suits, and

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they're driving policy at the State Department
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White House. And when people start
to understand that, and then when you

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see they're actually working with the communist
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nineties today where today, as I
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it's amazing, John, to your
point, you know, after nine to

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eleven, how much cover was given
by the administration, you know, George

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W. Bush, you know,
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Muslims, and I can understand how
things could get, you know, potentially

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out of control and we could have
a knee jerk reaction like what happened in

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World War Two with the Japanese.
But regardless, I mean, it was

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like we went overboard here. We
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much so that our brains fell out, and we allowed these insurgents to come

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into every aspect of our government and
to be in positions of control where they

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were influencing policy and you know,
flat out breaking the law, like you

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know what happened with these three amigos
recently, one of which finally lost his

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clearance, but he was the one
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into the oil business. Right,
that's right, You've got I mean,

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the I would argue if you look
at these individuals inside the system that are

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agents of hostile foreign powers like Iran, in positions of for instance, the

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chief of Staff for ASD Solik,
the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations

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Low Intensity conflict arguably one of the
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and there's the enemy that level of
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I would argue it's unrecoverable right now. And I've said this on your show

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before. It's not like new It's
unrecoverable. These departments have got to have

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a massive purge. And I'm going
to say it again. I believe everyone

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in all branches of the service with
a star on their shoulder should be fired,

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should have been fired on inauguration day
for the Trump administration. And I

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was able to make that recommendation,
which was not a year or two.

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That's his choice, and he paid
the price for it, right and he

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got I think mister Trump's failure to
purge the system like needed to happen,

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and he completely failed to do it. Then he paid the price for it,

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and he was it was explained to
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I think I think that you know, there's no excuse for Donald Trump,

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because I think he's a smart guy. Uh, and in certain regard he

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should have known better. But see
this speaks to the complexity of you know,

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of our government. How many layers
are involved here. Uh, and

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you've got somebody who has what one
hundred days to bring in staff, uh,

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you know, to try to understand
what's going on. He he doesn't

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think that the outgoing president is so
diabolical that he's going to move what four

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thousand of his administration members into the
bureaucracy, so he he sets them as

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moles within the incoming government. That's
right. How is Trump going to understand

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and know that nuance, especially being
an outsider. Well, so if you

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or I were president, just let
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and you asked if it was you, and you asked me, John,

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what would you want me to do
in my first two weeks? I

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would say, well, let's start
with shutting down the Agriculture Department, the

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Department of Education. Shall we go
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what are we doing? I would
cut the number of cabinet departments by

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two thirds. I would cut the
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And then after doing that, I
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and above in the military, and
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bring people in who are lieutenant colonels
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would have a vetting process. But
you know the fact that we have isis

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al Qaeda and Hamas working in the
government. You've got Iranian Pakistani agents working

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in the government. You've got Chinese
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tell you your vetting process sucks.
So right then I would have a team

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of people, and I already know
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the ones who would be vetting everybody, and it would be a slower process,

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but you wouldn't get the kind of
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in our government. No, I
agree. First step. Now, the

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second step is you have got to
go into the bureaucracy and take those people

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and fire them by name. And
that's going to take probably your first six

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months in office. But most of
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know who those people are. And
so you just say, okay, these

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fifteen hundred people you're fired today,
get out right, and don't take anything

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with you. Just you're not Your
access to that building is out. But

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if we've already closed down, for
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don't need to worry about it.
I would shut the un down and send

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all those people gone. That is
a counterintelligence sift. So there are major

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things mister Trump could have done that
he failed to do. And it's not

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again, I agree with you,
it's not a picking on Donald Trump,

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but he walked into a complete storm
unaware. But by making a guy like

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Rent's previous, you're chief of staff, you're just asking to get your butt

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handed to you in the first you
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it's almost like you need to have
like a godfather moment. Remember when

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they went to war and they had
to fire the family attorney and Michael tells

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him, says, look at you
know, hey, you've been our family

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attorney. But we're going we need
a wartime conciliary. And this is what

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you know, conservatives are, what
people, patriots who believe in this country

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require, is we're going to need
a wartime president, a wartime conciliary.

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We're going to need people who don't
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parties. Their commitment is to the
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equally to your point, John,
we the people need to step up.

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I mean, the fact of the
matter that this document leads with we the

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people. Boy, that says right
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it's almost like, I think that
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It's not just the military or law
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take an oath of office that we
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the military, because we all have
skin in the game and we need to

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understand that. And we also need
to understand how we got where we are

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right now. Why forty percent of
the American people are so prejudiced and compromised

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because the government has bought and sold
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they've bought their vote. They have
you know, for minorities and blacks

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in particular, they've put them back
on the plantation. We have a modern

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day plantation that has been constructed for
them by the Democratic Party and that it

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has kept them down. And you
know Joe Biden talks about systemic racism,

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Well, the systemic racism that exists
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Democratic Party and that's what gives them
a big part of that forty percent base.

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The other part is the bureaucrats who
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why you know, the what the
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DC, because these are all bureaucrats
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making huge amounts of money at our
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What return does the taxpayer get?
We get bupkis we're getting We're getting

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robbed three ways to Sunday here,
John. So again, that is a

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I concur and I would say that
the greatest failure, I believe is a

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failure of the leadership. And so
you brought up some issues. You brought

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up the issue earlier of the border. So let me use that as an

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example. And I'll begin with an
example from my time time in the FBI.

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We were having a discussion about counter
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charge of the Washington Field Office on
a particular decision, had his general counsels

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sitting next to him, and his
response to a question about will we do

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this thing was well, if it's
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And I didn't say it publicly,
but I said it privately. That's

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incorrect. You're the leader, he's
the general counsel. If you delegate your

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leadership to him, you're doing something
you're not authorized to do. You subordinating

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your leadership. It's exactly what you're
doing. It's the same. It's the

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same thing. If I use I
live in Texas, if I look at

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our governor who says, well,
I'd like to do these things, but

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the lawyers say this, and the
federal government's saying this, Hey grow a

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set of testicles. Exactly, do
what needs to be done to protect the

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citizens under the Texas Constitution, the
US Constitution, and stop worrying about bureaucratic

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bull crap. Exactly what. We
have leaders that have little courage and little

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capability to lead. But the people
of Texas are tolerating it, and again

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they're going to get I know,
I'm a citizen in Texas, but I'll

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support it, and I've been very
vocal about it and actually worked with legislators

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to try to do something about it
as well as citizens. But people are

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going to get what they get.
If you keep electing Chuck Schumer to Senate,

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well, tough, you're getting now
what you deserve. Exactly. If

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you elect criminals and corrupt people to
office, you're going to get what you

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deserve. Right and John, I
think the thing that is disturbing about this

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is that people don't even realize the
power that is available to them. Leadership

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has, as you said, subordinated
their authority, their rightful positions to you

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know, That's what leadership does.
Leadership takes you to where you need to

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be versus where you are, but
there needs to be that proper assessment and

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commitment. Again, leadership has a
clear understanding of how much pain people are

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in in the current condition and how
much better it can be if you take

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the next step, and that's what
you lead people to and you make up

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that difference. You don't run a
government by polling. But what's happened in

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i'd say the last twenty thirty years
or so, we've been a government that

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has been run by polling and not
leadership. And that's why it's so easy

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for, you know, for leadership
to be so compromised and for us to

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get the leadership that we get.
Now Here comes Donald Trump on the scene,

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and is what. Donald Trump's a
leader. He's a chief executive officer.

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He's been that most of his life, and he demonstrates those characteristics and

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principles. And what happens. Half
the country goes sideways. They go brain

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damaged over it because they're not used
to having somebody who is a bona fide

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leader. Does that make sense?
Absolutely? It does, absolutely, it

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doesn't. It It goes to the
point that I think the failure of citizens

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to understand what the founding principles are
and how the country's supposed to run,

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holding their leaders accountable, and then
electing people who are actually leaders. To

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me, that that's the failure.
That's the whole thing right there. You

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have citizens that don't know or don't
believe they actually have duties as citizens and

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responsibilities. I think you just vote
or you don't. That's kind of it.

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You live your life and you leave
everyone else alone. No, that's

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not it at all. Right,
you are supposed to be holding your officials

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accountable. So if you wake up
one day and say, hey, how

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did this happen? How come we've
got this? You know, how do

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we end up with these five lions
wandering around our house eating our children?

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Well because you let them in,
that's right exactly, and then you feed

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them and then you ignore them.
So you're getting what you deserve. We

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are getting as a nation what we
deserve right now, I'd argue, actually

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we're not. We haven't yet gotten
what we deserve, and can we stave

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it off. I don't know the
world but for a few patriots, John,

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I think you know to your point, and people need to grasp this

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and hopefully they have the capacity to
understand this. When you look at congressional

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leadership today, Senate and the House, let's just look at those two bodies

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there. Who are the ones that
stand out? I mean it's not everybody,

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it's very few. And when these
members stand out and represent as your

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as you're you know, characterizing here
leadership qualities, what happens The Natives go

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nuts, don't they? Well,
that's right, because the system is set

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up to correct. You put you
in that lane, and those people that

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are out of the lane, well, then you they make sure you don't

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get the money. You know,
you can just take a simple example of

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Congressman Allen West. They literally redistrict
his redistricted his district so he didn't get

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him out of there. Yeah,
I mean, this is like the system

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is so bloody corrupt and Americans are
but these things take time. Americans are

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coming to see it. And I
agree with what I think was your assessment

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that I don't see this happening without
serious and significant action on the part of

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the citizens. And I don't this
isn't going to just go away. Yeah,

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John, you and I have had
some conversation on this but I think

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you know where I'm coming from.
Ultimately, this is a spiritual issue.

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It starts in the hearts of every
man and woman who calls themselves an American,

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and we need to pause a moment
and do an assessment of who we

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are in character, morality, you
know, the values that we hold to.

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I believe in many regards that what
America is suffering from is a spiritual

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condition. And what America is is
infected with right now has been this evil

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that has been allowed to permeate our
education, permeate marriages, permeate families.

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I mean, look at us.
I mean, we're not happy enough to

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kill one hundred million babies since in
the womb, and now we have to

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alter them. So if they don't
like their sex, we come up with

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this theory that we can chop off
their genitals and somehow they're happier, when

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there's no indication or evidence that that
is the case whatsoever. If anything,

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the misery continues along with the suicide
index. So all this insanity that you

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referenced when we first started talking about
is part and parcel to our spiritual condition.

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And I don't know how much more
America can handle as a country.

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And it's not just America, because
I see this happening around the world,

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this same type of condition, because
of what's happening at the globalist level,

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as you talked about the World Economic
Forum, these uber elites, these oligarchs

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that want to control it all.
This movement is a concerted movement that really

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puts us in the crosshairs of good
and evil. And you've got to choose.

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America's citizens have got to choose at
this crossroads. Do they want good,

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do they want evil? Do they
want life or do they want death?

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It's pretty much an academic question and
answer you one that I know that

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some presidents of universities have a hard
time answering. Even a Supreme Court justice,

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a justice who had a hard time
answering what a woman is. I

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mean, even it is academic,
in my humble opinion, But you have

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to be humble, and we have
to be a bit introspective to see,

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look at are we getting Like you
asked, you said, are we getting

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the government that we desire? We're
getting the one we deserve, but it's

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not the one that we desire.
I don't think so that is the root

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of it. And I will share
with your audience. That's the reason that

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the work I've done since I've been
doing it, it's not enough to know

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the real threats, both organized and
the disorganized threats and do something about it,

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which I've always trained people to do, really since shortly after nine to

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eleven. But that's why it included
and what I shared that it's got to

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be that too pronged approach. You
have to re establish the founding principles exactly.

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And what I'm shocked at is Americans
who identify as patriots and Christians or

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patriots and faithful people to the God
of the Old and New Testament, they

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will when I begin laying out and
teaching about the Founding Principles, I would

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say close to ninety five percent are
unaware. And these are people that consider

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themselves active patriot, you know,
Christians, Christian patriots. And that's a

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big problem when citizens don't understand.
Like I'll give an example. You know,

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at the time that the Constitution,
the US Constitution was ratified, every

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state constitution in America required a public
profession of Christian faith the whole public office

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to elect an office. Right now, here's the question I'll pose without you

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know, standing on one side of
the issue or the other. And I'm

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doing this intentionally. Did the legislatures
of all those states, and the governors

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of those states, and the leadership
of the federal government at the time,

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did they all get wrong their understanding
of how we were supposed to be governed,

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or today we're getting it right.
I'm just asking the question, because

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when you ask the question, it
answers itself exactly. George Washington and John

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Adams and John Jay and Thomas Jefferson
and Ben Franklin and James Madison and Alexander

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Hamilton and Samuel Adams, they are
and so many others didn't get it wrong.

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They got it right. And they
understand that those biblical principles and the

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principles more as important, but really
more broadly of natural law that are the

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more make up the moral standard legally, legally. At the time of the

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founding, they used Blackstone's commentaries as
the primary source of law that made it

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clear that those two principles have to
undergird the law, and no law can

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be made that constitute the principles of
natural life, law and Holy scripture because

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it undergirds our government and our legal
system. And until it's returned to that

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the chance of this country not imploding
are zero. It's meant going to happen.

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Yeah. I even John Adams,
uh, you know, said quite

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clearly that the Constitution was designed for
a moral and righteous people. I mean

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these are Christian terms, these are
biblical terms. And uh. And today

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I mean, look what Look what's
happening in our congress. Look what's happening

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in our government. Uh. You
know, those virtues are obviously missing and

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and it's very anemic. Uh.
And so this is what we have running

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our government. Uh. And this
is also why you've you've had a tipping

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point here, John, because what
should happen is government should be downstream the

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public, right the people. And
it's the other way around. What it

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is now is you've got the people
downstream the government. So the government right

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now is dividing us. They're getting
in all this racial divide, in these

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wedge issues, and they're telling people
what they're to believe and how they are

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to behave. It's okay of a
segment of our community wants to go totally

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revolutionary and go smash and grab,
take one thousand dollars worth of property,

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destroy local businesses due two to four
billion dollars of damage, you know,

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based on a lie and a lie
that we know that has been cleared up

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by the science. Remember, we're
supposed to follow the science, and the

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science has come back and give us
the truth. But no, we can't

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handle the truth because our government we
don't have the leadership. As you mentioned,

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it has subordinated it's leadership role to
the mob, and the mob is

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controlling the United States of America today. Yeah, I think it's practically demonstrable,

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and that's what I do for a
living, that the key components of

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our government are captured. Yes,
and at the federal level at least,

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I would argue in a lot of
local jurisdictions, And again I always ask

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the question, name one governor that
has actually identified these two movements, the

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communists and Islamic movement, and is
actively working against them. Some, a

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very small number, are working against
the policies that these movements have put into

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place, and so we're in a
battle against policies. But no war has

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ever been won by changing a policy, exactly fixing an issue one by crushing

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enemies exactly, vanquishing them, or
getting a complete and unconditional surrender and so

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so long as we are trying to
fix policies, you know, CRT in

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school or drag Queen Hour, or
the right to free speech, very important

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election issues, the border issues,
right to life. I believe all these

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things are important that we deal with. But they are throwing so many at

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us at a time. Yes,
we're incapable of doing anything about. You

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got to go to the route.
You got to go to the big party,

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not just the little part sticking out
the issues. You got to go

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to the enemy, the communist movement, the islomic movement, and they exist

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in local communities and we can identify
them. And what I teach people to

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do is how to identify the leadership
the organizations and flush them out of your

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community or render them much less effective
while again re establishing founding principles in the

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local community. And well, John, I think we can learn a lot

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with what's happening with Israel in Jmas. Israel in Amas. This situation is

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such that Israel doesn't have a choice. They have got to rid the Land

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of Hamas. There's no cohabitation.
I mean, how do you cohabitate with

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somebody who wants you dead? I
mean, that's absurd. And we've got

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you know, people in our government, you know, Anthony Blincoln, the

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President of the United States, still
believing in some sort of two state solution.

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So that is exactly the same thing
that you're talking about right now in

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our everyday lives here in America.
You cannot embrace corruption and think that you're

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somehow going to be immune to it. And embracing means that you re elect

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these people who are corrupt. You
acquiesce, you don't take a stand,

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you don't hold to your birthright as
an American citizen. You cannot subordinate.

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See, this is the problem,
like you said, And I think it's

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great that you brought this up,
John, because what has happened is we've

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systemically subordinated our rights, the rule
of law, our morality to lesser thans,

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and we're getting what we deserve.
Yeah. You you know. The

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reason I love this discussion is I
think we keep sharing with each other these

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ideas that I think your viewers will
benefit from going a little deeper. And

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so let's take that the two state
solution issue. Okay, we've got we've

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got about three minutes, John,
So I want you to address that and

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a call to action, because we
the people need to come together and do

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something about this. So this is
a good way to kind of cap it

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off. Okay, So either of
these people you mentioned, mister Blincoln and

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quite frankly all the others in this
the US administration and also in Israel,

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who think that there's a way to
be peace with people who say my goal

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is to rid the earth of you, We want to kill all of you.

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And then Jewish leaders, Israeli leaders
have said, yeah, we hear

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that, but we want to find
a way to coexist. Those people are

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either catastrophically stupid, they are incapable
of leading because their makeup is so soft,

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and it might just be out of
a good hearted place, and I'll

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give them that benefit of the doubt, but they're incapable of making good leadership

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positions, or they're batting for the
other team. If someone can think of

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a fourth option, I'm open to
it. The reality is the Islamic movement

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has clearly said un Islamic governments cannot
exist on the planet. We have to

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destroy him and primarily we have to
rid the world of every Jew and the

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state of Israel. Yeah, and
every non month we have to deal that

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realistically, So to your point to
close, the call to action is in

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the United States, which quite frankly
is where my effort is and the work

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that myself and my colleagues utilize.
You got to do it at the local

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level, you know. I encourage
people. You know, Johnguondola dot com

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is my website. People that want
to get trained. Were the only ones

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in the United States doing this training
you how to identify these threats, how

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to lawfully rid your community of them
or again render them much less effective,

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and re establish the founding principles.
I believe in the United States that's the

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only way to do it. The
federal system is catastrophically corrupt, and most

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state governments, including good ones,
good ones like Texas, are failing to

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do their duty. So it's not
happening at the federal or state level.

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It's got to be at the local
county level. Well, there it is,

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ladies and gentlemen. Again the website
John that they can go to for

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more information, John Guandolo dot com, g U A N D l O

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dot com. There it is,
John Gundola. Thank you so much for

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being with us. I appreciate it. God bless thank you, Bill,

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God bless you. Our thanks to
John Gundola, the counter terrorism expert,

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former FBI agent, and co author
of Shariah The Threat to America, and

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our thanks to you for joining us
today and being a part of the solution

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and not adding to the problem.
May God bless you and keep you.

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May make us face shine upon you. May He be gracious unto you and

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give you his peace. Thank you
so much for being with us. Take

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care, God bless