July 11, 2023
FBI Cover Up Protects Biden, Stymies Congress

Last month, Senator Chuck Grassley delivered a bombshell: The unredacted version of a certain FBI FD-1023 form, which Grassley and House Oversight Committee chair James Comer have both seen, alleges that a Ukrainian executive of Burisma Corporation...
Last month, Senator Chuck Grassley delivered a bombshell: The unredacted version of a certain FBI FD-1023 form, which Grassley and House Oversight Committee chair James Comer have both seen, alleges that a Ukrainian executive of Burisma Corporation has recordings of conversations with both Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, in which their corrupt quid pro quo dealings were discussed. Steve Bonta, the Executive Senior Editor for The New American Magazine is reporting.
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W FORCY Radio. Hey, great
to have you with us, sharing a
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part of your day. We're gonna
be talking about the FBI cover up,
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right, I mean, it's obvious
they're protecting the bidens and along the way
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they're also styming Congress. This is
the topic of today's conversation with Steve Bonta.
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Steve as the executive senior editor for
The New American magazine. Last month,
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a Senator Grassley, the Republican from
Iowa, delivered a bombshell, the
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unredacted version of the certain FBI FD
ten twenty three from We're hearing a lot
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about the ten twenty three form,
and we'll hear more about it today Senator
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Grassley and House Oversight Committee Chair James
Coomer, the Republican from Kentucky, have
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both seen that it alleges that a
Ukrainian executive of Barisma Corporation has recordings of
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conversation with both Hunter Biden and Joe
Biden. Right now, let's bring Steve
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Bonta on the show. Hey,
Steve, good to have you with us.
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I Bill good to be here.
Well, they've got recordings here.
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And as Senator Grassley said that Wise
was the guy who had the recordings.
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It was kind of backup insurance.
And it seems that's the coin of the
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realm these days when it comes to
the Beltway. Right. Well, yes,
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and just a point, we don't
know who has the recordings at this
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point, so I don't think it's
not clear whether even the FBI has them.
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It's simply been alleged that this unnamed
executive in Ukraine made them squirreled them
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away somewhere. Whether the FBI has
copies, we don't know, and I
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don't not sure that Congresses figured that
out yet, although there are rumors of
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what the Comber is going to release
more pretty damning information sometime this week about
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this whole issue is going to be
another drop of I guess text messages and
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this kind of thing. So we'll
see the saga continues, right exactly.
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Now, this person, this Ukrainian
executive, can you give us a little
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bit more of his background. We
don't know anything about him. All we
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know is he's a Ukrainian guy.
It's not clear whether he's a government official
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or quasi government official or I mean
it, presumably he's a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch
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of some description, but that doesn't
narrow the field down too much. Someone
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who had dealings with the Bidens within
the last you know, five or ten
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years, and someone who felt that
he clearly needed insurance policy. This was
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at least the way Senator Grassley put
it when he was the person. Ironically
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it was. It was not Comers
actually, Senator Grassley who first mentioned this
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in a speech in the Senate,
that these recordings are alleged to exist,
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but whether they exist at all on
this side of the Atlantic, no one
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seems to well, no one knows
publicly yet. Anyway. Yeah, well,
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Steve, after that infamous video of
Biden bragging about how he got the
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prosecutor from Ukraine fired, unless he
would step away from the investigation of Barisma
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and his son. You can't blame
you know, this latest rendition of why
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somebody would want to make sure that
they were protect acting their backs because they
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couldn't even trust their own government much
last America and Joe Biden is president right
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well, sure, and this has
been borne out of course by the gal
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Luft's story. Yeah, I don't
know if he's been following that, but
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just a couple of hours ago the
official indictments against gal Luft were unveiled now
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revealed that he is in fact still
alive and on the run and living in
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disclosed location. This is the guy. He probably poses a bigger threat than
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any of these other whistleblowers or text
messages because he's an Israeli citizen. I
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think he's an American citizen. Also
because he mentions in the videos he would
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really say that he has voting rights. But he has privy knowledge of biden
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wheelings and dealings with CFR, with
the with Sorry c with the Chinese Energy
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Company, and the members of the
Chinese Communist Party, and they went after
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him right after the Republicans won the
election last November. That he's the guy
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they've been targeting. They had tried. They had him arrested or detained in
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Cyprus pending exhibition hearings. They're trying
to end together in the United States and
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basically put him away so that he
can never talk to Congress, or that
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he does, they can always say, well, you see, he's actually
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a felon and you can't trust his
word, and so forth and so on.
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Yeah, they're doing everything they can
to bruise him up, There's no
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doubt about it for obvious reasons.
It was my understanding that he was in
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some respect some sort of government operatives, So he's worked inside the FBI and
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the CIA. Is my understanding is
that yours as well? What Gatloft?
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Yes, so he was the co
director maybe still is technically of a foreign
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affairs related think tank in Washington,
d C. He's a kind of an
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academic. But he also was a
former colonel in Israeli military, which leads
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me to suspect probably. I mean, there's no love lost between Benjamin net
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and Yahoo and the current the Biden
administration, so they may well have spirited
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him out of Cyprus and or hiding
him somewhere and maintaining plausible deniability, so
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the US can't can't come down in
Israel and demand they hand him over.
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Um. He also, his own
admission was connected to the it was involved
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in this, this this whole Biden
thing with the Chinese energy company, So
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he's not necessarily saint in his own
right. He does if you've if you've
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watched the twelve minute videotape that he
sent to the New York Post, say
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that, yes, he certainly comes
across as very plausible. Problem is,
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as far as we know, he
can name names all he wants, but
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he has no videotapes and no documentary
proof. And he's already saying, well,
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you know, if the Department of
Justice has this case again, then
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why don't they unseal the minutes of
this meeting in Brussels that he had back
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in twenty nineteen when he first tried
to warn the dj he didn't realize he
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was basically warning the enemy about themselves
at the time, but in any case,
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he tried to warn them that you
know, you think you think Trump
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is corrupt, well Biden is even
worse. And it's communist China that he
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has dealings with, and they just
took that and squirreled it away, and
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I'll bet Congress will never be able
to get it's its hands on it as
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long as obviously Biden's in the White
House. Exactly. Well, in this
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meeting in Brussels involved what six DOJ
officials or you know, participants associated with
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the Department of Justice. Well allegedly, I mean, that's what Luff is
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saying. And of course the Justice
refuses to say anything. They're they're stonewalling
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like crazy. But I think,
you know, Luff made a very plangent
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point when he said in this recording, you know, it's not a coincidence
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that these guys waited years and years
and then all of a sudden, when
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the Republicans take control of the House
and they know they're serious investigations coming boom
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in December, suddenly they decide they're
going to come after him and try to,
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you know, to hustle him off
stage before he can can do any
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damage to them, before he can
So he clearly is the key guy.
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He seems to know more than anyone
else, and that's why he's on the
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run now and they're hunt trying to
hunt him down like a wild animal,
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and you know, do whatever they
end as silence him. Well, yeah,
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without a doubt, I don't blame
him for being nervous. I mean,
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we know what happens with people that
are not holding to the party line.
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But the other interesting thing also when
you consider the environment here Steve right
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now, is we're hearing more about
whistleblowers. I mean, there seems to
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be chinks in the armor that uh, you know, are coming out.
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I mean, especially the IRS whistleblowers, which you know, on the surface
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is very dangerous because I mean,
their careers are done right well, it's
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you know, by their own testimony. It's worse than that their careers are
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not only finished, their lives they're
finished. Yeah, at least that the
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IRS is trying very hard to to
ruin them so utterly that they and of
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course these various FBI whistle blowers as
well, you know, ruin these people
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to make sure that that any others
who might want to come forth and tattle
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to the American people about what's going
on behind the scenes are maximally disincentifized from
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doing something. Well, it's no
wonder oh, as A Gallop took a
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recent poll and something like sixteen of
the institutions, the majority of Americans believe
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are compromised and corrupt. Well,
sure, the majority of Americans are correct.
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This is not a new thing.
I mean, you and I are
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both old enough to remember the Clinton
years and how appalling what was when all
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of that corruption came out. It's
only gotten worse. But we unfortunately,
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you know, on the one hand, we had the ideal of a government
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under the constitution, rule of law, limited equal rights for all, and
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then on the other we have this
increasingly stark reality that there is a bunch
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of usurping gangsters that seems calling the
shots, and not just in the White
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House, but in all of the
levels of the executive branch and to a
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considerable extent in Congress as well.
Yeah, I mean, it is amazing
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how quick seemingly it occurred. I
mean, we can go back and look
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back in the most recent era of
the Only years and what President Obama meant
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when he talked about the fund the
mental transformation of our country. Little did
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we know to what degree and what
depth uh he was intending. And the
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remnants of this administration continue and they're
boy, they're deep in the deep state
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and or uh at at all at
all levels and with and I think with
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desperation, and maybe you sense a
little bit more of this desperation because you
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know, I think at the end
of the day, Steve, we can
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have some hope that there are people
like uh, like these whistleblowers, these
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i RSI whistleblowers that are willing to
put it all on the line for the
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sake of this great American idea and
the high values that our country stands for.
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I mean, all it takes is, you know, maybe a couple
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of more and maybe the dominoes really
start to fall where there's no recovery.
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Well, it could be. I
mean I am very optimistic, but in
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the short run, I think it's
not going to be easy. It's going
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to be probably a long slog to
really win our country back. I mean,
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these powers have become so entrenched and
so arrogant, and so smugly secure
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of their own you know, unassailability
that you know there and there and with
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some justifications, it's hard hard to
get to them. We're seeing this now.
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You know, the the FBI and
the DOJ have effectively told Congress to
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go scratch on a number of occasions. Congress, Yeah, an institution that
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created them. They're telling them.
No, no, no, we're not.
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We're not going to reveal this.
You can go away. We don't
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care what you do, you know. And it's it's kind of frightening to
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see that this, this executive branch
user patient that's going on, this is
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really treasonous, isn't it. I
mean, it just in ways that you
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and I would understand it to be. But you know, I think Jordan
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Peterson said it quite clearly that you
can become so ideologically fixed that you render
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yourself stupid. And it seems that
these group of acolytes have really, you
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know, abandoned ship when it comes
to common sense or any kind of sense
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of truthfulness. Well, in a
constitution republic, user patient is treason.
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It's a form of treason. But
you know, we like to use polite
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language, so of course, as
they used to say, none dare call
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it treason. This is part of
the reason for the pick that we're in,
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yes, is that they get away
with it out the way, with
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it for so long without being confronted. And I have to say, Bill,
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I mean I am pretty impressed with
the confrontational approach and the very competent
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investigation that's been ensuing from the House, you know, the Ways and Means
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Committee and all these others. You
know, they're doing a good job so
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far. Yeah, we'll see if
anything actually comes with because the American people
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are waiting to say, well,
are there actually going to be is there
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going to be accountability? Extend?
Are we just look at all the terrible
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things? And then they just decide
and wait for the next election number one
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question. You're exactly right from the
voters. Is there going to be accountability?
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It is taking time, but it's
like anything else. You know,
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you wake up one morning say wow, where did that extra thirty pounds come
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from? And it takes a while, you know, to right the ship
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and lose the weight. And we're
having to go through the process. So
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yes, I give them credit and
I appreciate, uh, you know,
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their their attention to detail because you've
got to really, I mean, this
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is a very strategic, multi level
game of chess, so to speak,
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and you're just hoping that you can
get them in the right position to where
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you can checkmate them. Because they've
had people, you know, come to
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Congress and they flat out, like
you say, they have the audacity to
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tell our elected officials go pound sand
and then they take their own version of
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the fifth and do everything they can
to deflect office skate and avoid answering the
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questions, and to run out the
clock, so to speak, because what
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the Beltway bureaucracy knows is there's new
management coming. I mean, the chances
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of new management coming are there,
and they can only hope, you know,
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for all that they've got all this
in the game, that they've got
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in this, they can hope that
maybe they can rig the twenty twenty four
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election and live another day, or
maybe end up with a golden parachute like
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call me and the rest of them
got right? Well, yeah, And
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I mean we need to bear in
mind that this hasn't happened overnight either.
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This is the product of several generations
of patient Fabian gradualism on the part of
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what we now call the radical left
and the deep state to erect this sort
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of parallel government that wields all the
safe facto power and defiance of the law.
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You know, what we're looking at
now, historically, I think,
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is we're going to answer, perhaps
for posterity one for all, whether it
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is possible to reform a constitutional republic
under the law without having recourse to what
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people always had in the past,
which is tyranny followed by violence, followed
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by fragment, all the rest of
the stuff, the usual remedy. We'll
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get desperate and things run out.
The question is whether the constitution is resilient
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enough, whether our republic is resilient
enough, whether our culture, our Christian
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culture, is resilient enough that we
can ultimately turn this thing around, probably
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over the course of the next several
generations, and restore a semblance of constitutional
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legitimacy to our government. Well,
Steve, I had to tell you that
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this whole situation has been so bothersome
for me. And as I go back
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and as I mentioned Jordan Peterson and
about you know, people being in their
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silos and the bureaucrats holding you know, defiantly to their their ideology, it's
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no wonder. I mean that they
were able to convince you can call them
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rhinos, and so they were already
leaning in that direction, but they they
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had to convince them. Going back
to Donald Trump, that first of all,
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he had to in a sense kind
of using Donald Trump's terms of how
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he was able to you know,
Trump putin and even jee was he just
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put out there. He gave them
ten percent doubt that he figured all he
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had to do was have them question
maybe ten percent possible the possibility that Trump
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would retaliate in means that was not
going to be beneficial for Russia or China.
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And it's interesting what the deep state
has done is they put in ten
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percent doubt in the minds of the
electorate, in our elected officials, with
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Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell in them
to question that maybe Trump could be an
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operative. I mean, you got
John McCain involved, John McCain, you
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know, one of the heroes of
the Senate, involved in transporting this false
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document, this dossier, the Steel
dossier. He's participating in this. So
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you've got the machinations of the Republican
Party and the Guard participating with the Democrats
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invalidating their own standard bearer, their
own president. And you know, this,
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this ideology, like like a cancer, metastasized and spread throughout the body
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politic and especially there on the Beltway, leaving that doubt that maybe Trump was
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illegitimate in some form. And you
know, and here what we got.
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We could have had Obamacare gone,
but John McCain with his infamous thumbed down
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you know that he had to look
so arrogant and defiant about what he did,
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the damage that he did to our
country. And at the end of
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the day, you look at those
four years that Trump gave us energy and
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dependence, a secure border, no
wars, wars that everybody said, oh,
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you know, this illegitimate president,
he's going to take us to ward.
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You know, if anything, he
started to move us out of Afghanistan
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after twenty years now, the way
it was finally executed, obviously, there's
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lots to be debated on that,
and many of us do not agree with
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how Joe Biden executed the exit out
of Afghanistan. But when you look at
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all the other things that Donald Trump
did on behalf of our country, uh
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and and and with the resistance that
he had to put up with and tolerate,
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even from his own party, it's
a wonder that he was able to
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do when he was able, what
he able, was able to accomplish what
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he did. Steve, I went
on there for a while, so you
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know, I did I lose you
here, That's that's okay. Yeah,
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I think I gave you a lot
of informations there, but it's just I
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mean, I'm trying to understand and
and maybe uh you might be able to
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encapsulate or at least help me further
understand this mindset, this ideology that uh,
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you know, the bureaucrats bought into. And that's in part what we're
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dealing with today is that the Democrats
on the left have really gone over the
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top in thinking that anybody that uh, you know, adheres to conserve it
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values are Donald Trump or just evil. Well, I mean, as far
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as the ideology is concerned, I
think that that we can sum up it's
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the ideology of power, and it's
it's recognizable anywhere any time or place in
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history. It has more or less
the same contours. And the people who
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are yeah what a deep state are
people for whom power is not the means
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really but the end, as orwell
portrayed, you know, in nineteen eighty
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four and so forth, that power
is what they want. Power is for
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them, you know, the ultimate
form of pleasure. So that's the ideology.
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And as far as Donald Trump concerned, it seems to me, I
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mean, there are a couple of
things that need to be said. First
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of all, I think he seriously
underestimated the power of the deep state.
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Oh, without a doubt, seriously
underestimated, and he continues to estimate them
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because there, I mean, if
if you want to, if you want
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to see what the deep state thinks
they have in store for Donald Trump,
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and barring a miracle, this is
probably how it'll wind up. Look at
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Brazil. So Jayibulsunaru, who was
the president of Brazil, great guy,
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friend of Trump, admirer of Trump, anti communist, you got rid of
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the Marxist influence, started you know, to enormous strides toward towards returning Brazil
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to some sort of a free country. After he'd been wrecked by Lila da
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Silva and others of his ilk and
he was defeated by electoral fraud last year
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and last week. Then that,
Steve, let's do this. Let's let's
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let's break for now, we'll come
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I'm Bill Martinez. For more information
on the show, you can check it
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out Bill Martinez Show dot com.
Our guest is Steve Banta. Steve is
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with the American magazine Steve Real Quick. Well, well we got you here.
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Let's talk a little bit about your
book. You and I haven't had
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a chance to get into much detail
because we get going and talking about current
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events, which are all that important. But maybe you can tell our viewers
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about your book. Okay, Well, the book is a written about twenty
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years ago, so it's it's a
little bit dated. There's some more information,
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and we're thinking about doing an update. Pretty I thought I thought you
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did an update. I thought there
was a Kendall. Maybe there's a Kendal
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version of the older book. I
guess maybe there is, yeah, But
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I mean, in particular, if
we update it, it's about the United
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Nations system, the history and so
forth. I think probably the you know,
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the major development in the last twenty
years or so has been the rise
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of this global environmentalist movement that has
really really become sort of the lynchpin for
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the whole movement to transform the United
Nations into more of a true global government.
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It's really become the chief pretext.
So that's that's an important thing that
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was just getting started back at the
beginning of this century when I wrote that
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book. So much has happened in
twenty years, and as you say,
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fast forward, and here we are
in the United Nations now conjunction with the
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WHO potentially setting up these agreements with
all the countries of the world to have
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the WHO be in charge of the
of the administration of any pandemic going forward.
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This is incredible to me because it
wasn't like we can come away after
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the two and a half years of
the experience that we went through in dealing
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with this pandemic and the you know
what the WHO did at the end of
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the day. I can't come and
say, wow, I'm sure glad to
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WHO was there because they did such
a great job. And now we're going
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to reward them. The Biden administration
wants to elevate them to be, you
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know, the finals say and the
arbitrator of you know, in a sense,
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we're surrendering our sovereignty, but they
will be the last word when it
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comes to dealing with a pandemic here
in the United States. But that's just
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mind blowing to think of that possibility. But it's it's more than a possibility.
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Is they continue to move closer to
securing that arrangement? Well, yeah,
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and I mean, did you know
that this month, within a few
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days, I'm not sure of the
exact date, there's going to be a
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meeting by an obscure UN organization that's
in charge of the regulation of international shipping,
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and they're going to try to impose
the first ever un administered global tax.
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Did you know that? Yes that
I was aware of this last month
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in a meeting in Paris that nobody
paid any attention to, although it had.
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I mean, the roster of attendees
was a veritable who's who of globalist
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including a number of heads of European
state and a couple you know, I
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believe what's what's her name, Janet
Yellen was there, So so there were
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ye, So you're going, what's
your name, Jenny Ellen? That's what
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the Chinese said. Just a couple
of day, Yeah, missus cawtow.
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But in many events, um so
at this meeting, which was held in
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late June in Paris, The purpose
of the meeting was to figure out a
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compulsory mechanism to fund this new loss
and damage International Wealth Distribution program that was
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agreed upon last year at the COP
twenty seven UN Environmental Summit in Charmel Shak,
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Egypt. And the idea there is
that climate change is all the fault
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of the rich countries, and so
they now have to begin paying reparations for
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climate loss and damage to the poor
countries to the tune of literally trillions of
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dollars. Probably, how do you
get the rich countries to do that.
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It's one thing for them to all
mouth the platitudes and so forth and promise
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that they're going to pony up the
money, but that it's another thing to
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force them to do it. So
the idea they hit upon last month was
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why don't we impose a UN tax
on all international shipping. And we're going
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to call it a carbon emissions tax, okay, and so, and we're
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going to collect it and and and
so forth. And it was agreed upon,
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received with rapturous enthusiasm, and supposedly
it's going to be formal this month
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and then probably be brought to being
next year or in twenty twenty five,
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and at that point the UN system. That will be a major inflection point
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in the history of the UN system
because for the first time it will be
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able to tax directly. It will
have a stream of revenue independent of the
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donations of member states, and that
is of course one of the key ingredients
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to becoming a true global government is
having the power to tax. Exactly.
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Wow, this is this is going
to be I can't imagine if Donald Trump
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gets elected in twenty twenty four that
Donald Trump is going to go along with
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paying attacks. What do you think
I can't Actually to circle back to what
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we were talking about before my internet
failed here before the break, you know,
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I mean, one mistake we shouldn't
make is assume that just electing Donald
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Trump is going to be kind of
the end all, because you know,
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I mean, obviously the deep state
is shown how much power they wield over
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the elector process. And of course
while they they're just out and and daring
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people to to do, including Congress, do anything about it. They've indicted
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Donald Trump. They're planning to do
to him what Brazil is trying to do
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to Bolsonado, put him in prison
for the rest of his life, and
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the solution. Obviously, it's nice
to have a president like Donald Trump in
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the White House who seems to take
his oath of office and fealty to the
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Constitution relatively seriously. But the power
and extent and wealth and influence of the
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deep state, as manifest in the
FED, in the judicial system, in
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the regulatory agencies, obviously, in
the business world, the woke businesses and
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so forth and so on, that
aren't even you know, really part of
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the government, is so considerable.
That's yeah. I mean, I mean,
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I think a more realistic solution,
the real way to regain control of
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our country, in addition to retaking
the White House, is to retake Congress
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and also the state legislatures. I
mean, after all, we are a
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federal republic. The states are or
used to have considerable power under the Constitution,
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and so, you know, but
that's going to require a more energetic
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and educated electorate for that to happen. And this is a maybe a slow
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process, but there's a lot of
indications that, as you said before,
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you know, we are turning the
ship around. Yeah, and I think
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that people are starting to get a
grasp of what the truth is here.
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Steve. I'm optimistic. In fact, I'm going to tell you I had
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actually believed that twenty twenty was going
to be such a resounding defeat of the
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Democrats that they were going to have
to, you know, step away for
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a while, and I mean for
maybe even ten years to kind of reconnoiter
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and reinvent themselves. That didn't happen
for obvious reasons, no doubt, and
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they were able to live another day. But I think that what comes into
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play here, Steve, is that
old pennzoil commercial is that you can pay
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me now or pay me later.
Obviously, when you pay sooner, the
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pain of the payment is a lot
less as opposed to later. And I
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believe this to be true. Is
the Democratic Party is going to realize the
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added expense and the pain of paying
for their sins, so to speak,
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later the deep state, no doubt
about it. But all this is coming
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to light now. Keep in mind, if you remember, we didn't hear
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about the deep state until Donald Trump
came into play, And so how much
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could Donald Trump really know about the
deep state, even fake news without having
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to be inside the bubble? And
he paid the price. He went inside,
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saw what was going on, and
called it out. But now it
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takes You're exactly right, It takes
an intelligent and an informed electorate to see
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what's going on. I'll tell you
this little story. Over the weekend,
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I get a call from the RNC. They're fundraising, right, Hey,
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you know, can you give us
a hundred bucks? And here's all these
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great things, you know, on
behalf of Conservatives and the Republican Party we're
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doing and YadA, YadA, YadA
YadA. And I'm listening. And normally
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I don't take those phone calls.
I see what they are, and I
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just I just ignore them. I
send them, you know, the voicemail.
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But I thought, okay, I
had a couple of minutes. I
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wanted to listen to what. I
wanted to listen to the pitch. So
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for two and a half minutes,
you know, she's going on and on
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about all these great things, the
Republican Party, everything else. And so
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finally, after about two and a
half minutes, I said, you know,
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ma'am, first of all, are
you a real person? Are you
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a robot? I don't know if
I'm talking to be because she was just
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going on. It was, you
know, kind of a set speech.
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And she goes, oh, well, I'm I'm on a computer and i'm
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you know, I'm reading the previ
I said, well, yeah, that's
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obvious because you're just like ripping through
this stuff. And I said, but
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let me let me say this to
you. You know, I do a
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daily show, and in a sense, I am giving the Republican Party and
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Conservatives in kind promotion because this is
what I believe in and I'm promoting that.
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I said, but for two and
a half minutes, you've been telling
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me all this stuff. But I
want you to know the number one issue
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with my audience and viewers is this, and you need to take note of
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this, because in two and a
half minutes you didn't even mention this,
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and that is we want to know
that the RNC is securing the vote.
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Dead silence, she had nothing to
say other than when she caught her breath,
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she goes, well, can you
at least give me fifty dollars?
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Well, I mean, obviously,
like everything else in this world, you
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do have to have money, you
know, to run for office. I
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mean, I sort of sympathize for
that with that, but but it's true.
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I mean a lot of people,
you know, here's the here,
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here's the thing, Bill, I
mean this term conservative that we that we
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bandy about so freely, What what
does it actually mean to be conservative?
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And I would submit that that being
conservative of is important, but it's it's
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it's the beginning. A lot of
people out there are very conservative but aren't
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necessarily well informed. And so when
the Republicans come out with a nice sounding
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thing that reverberates with their conservative instincts, they don't necessarily ask themselves, well,
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is this actually, you know,
constitutionally legitimate, you know, a
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wise idea in the long run,
if this or or perhaps the key question,
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okay, if Republicans in power pass
measure X that sounds conservative and sounds
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great as long as it's wielded by
Republicans who might trust, how will this
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same measure be applied when inevitably the
Democrats come to power again without a doubt.
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Quick, let's let's let's stay on
that thought for just a moment.
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Bill Martinez here very quickly. When
you go to Bill Martinez show dot com,
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that is our website, all the
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all these interviews available to you at
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and family. Because what the show
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your own knowledge. Hopefully, these
things that we're sharing with you, Steve
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and I is that you just don't
take our word for it. You've got
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to own the knowledge yourself. Hopefully. What it does is motivate you to
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dig deeper so that you know,
as Steve was sharing with you, is
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that so often conservatives in their conservatives
by name only, I mean because it
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kind of like it feels good and
it's comfortable. But in this day and
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age, you've got to know what
you stand and what you believe in.
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The Other thing that we've been promoting
time and again seriously is to know the
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difference between the legitimate and the counterfeit. There's lots of you know, fake
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news, anonymous reporting and that that
we've been bombarded with, and we just
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cannot accept that. We need to
make sure what we you know, what's
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coming into our minds and our spirits
is legitimate. But if you don't study
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the legitimate, you're going to get
fooled by the counterfeit. And we know
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the Democrats, they've been working at
their craft and doing this for a long
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time and they're really good, and
you've got to give them credit for what
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they've been able to do. The
other thing that you will notice when you
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go to our website there is a
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Absolutely, that's what this is all about.
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your donation to you know, keep
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our efforts to you know, to
write the ship here. As Steve said,
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you know, that's what we got
to do. We've got to write
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the ship and we've got you know, Steve Bonta, what seventy percent of
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the country, according you know,
according to Rasmussen, believes that we're on
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the wrong track. Right. Well, that's my understanding. I don't I
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know, I don't know how they
phrase the question. Yea, so we'd
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say beyond the wrong track? What
does that mean? Maybe some people think
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are thinking, well, you know, the United States is on the wrong
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track because my favorite sports team didn't
win. I mean maybe, you know,
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I don't know what that means.
If it's it's a very very vague,
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open ended question, and it doesn't
necessarily translate into ballot box results.
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But well, yeah, exactly,
there's a sense of deep dissatisfaction. I
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think that's fair to say, Well, well, clearly that and as my
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just you hear that number, I'm
always suspicious when you know they'll say,
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well, you know, thirty five
forty percent of the country thinks Joe Biden
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is doing a good job. Now, I got to tell you, in
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my circles, maybe I'm just I
don't know, you know, I got
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to broaden my circles, but in
the circles I travel and even in my
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travels across the country, asked me
how many people I've run into that have
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said Joe Biden is doing a great
job? How many? Zero? Okay,
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yeah, well I haven't run into
end of those either. But of
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course, you know, you know, I mean, we on the so
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called right, we tend to associate
with like minded people in church and work
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and this kind of thing. But
um, no, I daresay if you
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were to go to get the average
you know, large university campus, I
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mean, you'd probably find the overwhelming
majority of people would express satisfaction with what
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Joe Biden's doing. I mean,
I occasionally do deliberately expose myself to the
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CNN and the MSN, NBC type
news media just to see what they're saying.
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And it's like they live in a
different cosmos, it really is.
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And or NPR, you know,
listen to NPR, and all of these
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media organs pretty much portray Joe Biden. Is this urbane, rational East Coast
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liberal elite uncle Joe, kindly old
guy. Yeah, he's getting a little
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bit long into the tooth, but
he's still, you know, the steady
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hand at the tiller after that baffle
Donald Trump. There are a large number
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of people, particularly on the you
know, the east and the left coast
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and the larger interior urban areas who
believe this, and of course on university
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campuses, and they do constitute a
pretty substantial, you know, percentage of
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the population. Partly it's because they
agree with the agenda, I mean,
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the wocal agenda is is really quite
popular, particularly among people under thirty,
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and partly because they are more or
less satisfied with with with what they're getting
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from and they don't consume Fox News, they don't watch the show and other
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shows like it online on the airway
and so forth, and so on,
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so they just they literally many of
them don't even know all of this.
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But see do they get do they
get a special discount but go to the
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grocery store or something? I mean, is there a special you know card
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if you're a card carrying Democrat that
you know, you get a reduction in
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your groceries or when you go to
the gas, I mean go to get
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gas. I mean these are real
issues. I mean, you talk about
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tabletop issues. The other thing too, I might add, uh, you
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know the coveted you know, suburban
housewives. You know that the Democrats have
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such a stronghold on I think there's
a disturbance in the forest in light of
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Joe Biden, you know, as
you just you know, you just characterize
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this vuncular, you know, old
statesman who's been around forever and a nice
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guy, and then we say what
he's done in rejecting his seventh grandchild,
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the uh, the suburban housewife that
doesn't sit well with them? Well yeah,
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I mean, but I mean,
speaking from personal experience as someone who
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was raised in the East. I
don't live in the East now, but
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it's raised in the East by kind
of an old Eastern family with you know,
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pretty much liberal ideas, you know, being raised with that, I
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do have some maybe some insight into
the mindset, right. And so here
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are a couple of things that you
show you're telling you're telling me they're not
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going to invite me for Christmas,
for Thanksgiving dinner? Is that what you're
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telling me? Yeah? Well,
I mean, but there here a couple
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of things about the about the liberal
mindset, and it is a mindset,
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and it goes back a long ways. I mean, it goes back to
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the In some ways, it's almost
a modern, a sort of deformed version
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of Puritanism because many of the things
that they do are very much in line
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with with the old Puritans. They
don't see it, but that the old
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New England Puritanism very except that Puritans
were religious and god fearing and Christian.
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The liberals, of course, typically
are not. But but a couple of
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you know, a couple of things. First of all, your average liberal
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liberal is someone who lives in a
bubble as far as their income is concerned.
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If you live in you know,
Prince George's county and you're you're you're
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making this huge income, you know, as a lobbyist in DC or something
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like this, or if you if
you're a tenured professor at the University of
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Chicago or something like this, you
don't care that much about the price of
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gas or the price of grosses the
way say a farmer in Iowa would okay,
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or a small business owner in any
you know, you know, Main
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Street, USA type of setting.
The fact is they make a lot of
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money now because they have rejiggered the
system in such a way that people who
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that these people who literally produce nothing
of value, who are festooned with law
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degrees and and and MBAs and degrees
and you know, government management or whatever
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it happens to be, can go
and live in the greater DC area or
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the greater New York area or the
greater Chicago area or whatever and do whatever
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it is they do in their jobs
in which they have praised basically nil possibility
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of ever being fired. They have
a golden parachute and what the Chinese called
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an iron rice bowl, very nice
expression in Chinese, which is Chinese free.
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A government job that will will guarantee
you know, rice in the pot
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your entire life, and that's what
they have. So from their perspective,
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you know, these you know,
stock market fluctuations and economic recessions are just
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trivial to them, I mean the
average. I mean, remember, the
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wealthiest counties in the United States are
the ones that ring Washington, d C.
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Exactly. They're not wealthy because the
people living there are the next generation
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of Sam Walton's you know there there. This isn't because they've got a bunch
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of wealthy entrepreneurs who are erecting you
know, great you know engines of capitalism.
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No, they are all the parasitic
classes who have turned parasitism on the
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body politic into the ultimate you know, career and safety net. Exactly.
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Wow. Yeah, I have relatives
and friends who are have been beneficiary as
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of this system, and it's remarkable. So so, if you are a
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person who has who you know,
who likes going to school, taking classes,
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getting degrees, why in the world
would you take the risk of going
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to do something productive like working in
a private corporation or start having forfends,
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start your own business with that degree, or even start your own law practice
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and help people, let's say,
and when you can go to DC or
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Manhattan and get a job in which
in which you know your coffers are going
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to overflow with taxpayer funds and you
don't have to worry but every getting fired.
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What a marvelous existence that is.
So they live in this cloud cuckoo
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land of their own construction that we
have permitted them to create and sustain and
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build up. But of course now
they're fighting savagely to keep it. And
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as you rightly observed, I mean, they certainly perceived Trump, who was
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and remains you know, a consummate, you know, free market entrepreneur.
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Uh, you know, they see
him as a mortal threat to this whole
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system of theirs. Well, Steve, as we wrap things up here,
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I'm going to give you an opportunity
to remind our viewers how they can connect
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with the New American magazine and connect
with you and uh you know follow you
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know, follow your commentaries. Okay, well you can. You can read
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the New You can subscribe to the
New American. Visit our website at the
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New American dot com. We also
have a daily show which I frequently co
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host. So yeah, and we
like to bill ourselves as providing the truth
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behind the news. We are not
driven just by the twenty four hour news
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cycle, but we are We aim
to help people understand what's going on.
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You know, the reality the principles
undergird all of this. Well, and
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what you do show aligns with the
philosophy of our show and our commitment to
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bring the truth to the people and
to you know, give them this information
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to be able to have an opportunity
like this, Steve, to go and
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give them a deep dive into these
topics again, so that they would be
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motivated enough to own their own knowledge, do some discovery on these issues,
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so that they will not be fooled
because you know, as you said,
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the ruling elites, they're not going
to give up the control and power that
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easy. We're going to have to
take it away from them, aren't we.
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Well, absolutely, and and and
just bear in mind, I mean
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this republic was created for virtuous people, and that that means moral virtue.
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It also means understanding. And neither
of those two things are necessarily easy to
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develop and to maintain. But we
have to as citizens in this American Republic,
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otherwise we will lose our republic to
the unvirtual Well, Steve Bonta,
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the executive senior editor for The New
American magazine. Steve, thank you so
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much for being with us. I
appreciate the time for more information and to
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be a part of this mighty Martinis
movement to return to God and to save
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our country. Check it out Bill
Martinez Show dot com. May God bless
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you, and may keep you and
make His face shine upon you. Go
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W FORCY Radio. Hey, great
to have you with us, sharing a
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part of your day. We're gonna
be talking about the FBI cover up,
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right, I mean, it's obvious
they're protecting the bidens and along the way
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they're also styming Congress. This is
the topic of today's conversation with Steve Bonta.
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Steve as the executive senior editor for
The New American magazine. Last month,
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a Senator Grassley, the Republican from
Iowa, delivered a bombshell, the
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unredacted version of the certain FBI FD
ten twenty three from We're hearing a lot
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about the ten twenty three form,
and we'll hear more about it today Senator
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Grassley and House Oversight Committee Chair James
Coomer, the Republican from Kentucky, have
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both seen that it alleges that a
Ukrainian executive of Barisma Corporation has recordings of
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conversation with both Hunter Biden and Joe
Biden. Right now, let's bring Steve
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Bonta on the show. Hey,
Steve, good to have you with us.
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I Bill good to be here.
Well, they've got recordings here.
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And as Senator Grassley said that Wise
was the guy who had the recordings.
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It was kind of backup insurance.
And it seems that's the coin of the
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realm these days when it comes to
the Beltway. Right. Well, yes,
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and just a point, we don't
know who has the recordings at this
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point, so I don't think it's
not clear whether even the FBI has them.
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It's simply been alleged that this unnamed
executive in Ukraine made them squirreled them
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away somewhere. Whether the FBI has
copies, we don't know, and I
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don't not sure that Congresses figured that
out yet, although there are rumors of
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what the Comber is going to release
more pretty damning information sometime this week about
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this whole issue is going to be
another drop of I guess text messages and
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this kind of thing. So we'll
see the saga continues, right exactly.
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Now, this person, this Ukrainian
executive, can you give us a little
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bit more of his background. We
don't know anything about him. All we
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know is he's a Ukrainian guy.
It's not clear whether he's a government official
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or quasi government official or I mean
it, presumably he's a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch
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of some description, but that doesn't
narrow the field down too much. Someone
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who had dealings with the Bidens within
the last you know, five or ten
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years, and someone who felt that
he clearly needed insurance policy. This was
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at least the way Senator Grassley put
it when he was the person. Ironically
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it was. It was not Comers
actually, Senator Grassley who first mentioned this
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in a speech in the Senate,
that these recordings are alleged to exist,
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but whether they exist at all on
this side of the Atlantic, no one
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seems to well, no one knows
publicly yet. Anyway. Yeah, well,
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Steve, after that infamous video of
Biden bragging about how he got the
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prosecutor from Ukraine fired, unless he
would step away from the investigation of Barisma
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and his son. You can't blame
you know, this latest rendition of why
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somebody would want to make sure that
they were protect acting their backs because they
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couldn't even trust their own government much
last America and Joe Biden is president right
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well, sure, and this has
been borne out of course by the gal
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Luft's story. Yeah, I don't
know if he's been following that, but
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just a couple of hours ago the
official indictments against gal Luft were unveiled now
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revealed that he is in fact still
alive and on the run and living in
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disclosed location. This is the guy. He probably poses a bigger threat than
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any of these other whistleblowers or text
messages because he's an Israeli citizen. I
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think he's an American citizen. Also
because he mentions in the videos he would
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really say that he has voting rights. But he has privy knowledge of biden
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wheelings and dealings with CFR, with
the with Sorry c with the Chinese Energy
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Company, and the members of the
Chinese Communist Party, and they went after
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him right after the Republicans won the
election last November. That he's the guy
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they've been targeting. They had tried. They had him arrested or detained in
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Cyprus pending exhibition hearings. They're trying
to end together in the United States and
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basically put him away so that he
can never talk to Congress, or that
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he does, they can always say, well, you see, he's actually
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a felon and you can't trust his
word, and so forth and so on.
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Yeah, they're doing everything they can
to bruise him up, There's no
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doubt about it for obvious reasons.
It was my understanding that he was in
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some respect some sort of government operatives, So he's worked inside the FBI and
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the CIA. Is my understanding is
that yours as well? What Gatloft?
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Yes, so he was the co
director maybe still is technically of a foreign
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affairs related think tank in Washington,
d C. He's a kind of an
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academic. But he also was a
former colonel in Israeli military, which leads
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me to suspect probably. I mean, there's no love lost between Benjamin net
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and Yahoo and the current the Biden
administration, so they may well have spirited
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him out of Cyprus and or hiding
him somewhere and maintaining plausible deniability, so
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the US can't can't come down in
Israel and demand they hand him over.
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Um. He also, his own
admission was connected to the it was involved
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in this, this this whole Biden
thing with the Chinese energy company, So
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he's not necessarily saint in his own
right. He does if you've if you've
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watched the twelve minute videotape that he
sent to the New York Post, say
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that, yes, he certainly comes
across as very plausible. Problem is,
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as far as we know, he
can name names all he wants, but
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he has no videotapes and no documentary
proof. And he's already saying, well,
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you know, if the Department of
Justice has this case again, then
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why don't they unseal the minutes of
this meeting in Brussels that he had back
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in twenty nineteen when he first tried
to warn the dj he didn't realize he
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was basically warning the enemy about themselves
at the time, but in any case,
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he tried to warn them that you
know, you think you think Trump
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is corrupt, well Biden is even
worse. And it's communist China that he
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has dealings with, and they just
took that and squirreled it away, and
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I'll bet Congress will never be able
to get it's its hands on it as
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long as obviously Biden's in the White
House. Exactly. Well, in this
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meeting in Brussels involved what six DOJ
officials or you know, participants associated with
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the Department of Justice. Well allegedly, I mean, that's what Luff is
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saying. And of course the Justice
refuses to say anything. They're they're stonewalling
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like crazy. But I think,
you know, Luff made a very plangent
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point when he said in this recording, you know, it's not a coincidence
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that these guys waited years and years
and then all of a sudden, when
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the Republicans take control of the House
and they know they're serious investigations coming boom
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in December, suddenly they decide they're
going to come after him and try to,
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you know, to hustle him off
stage before he can can do any
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damage to them, before he can
So he clearly is the key guy.
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He seems to know more than anyone
else, and that's why he's on the
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run now and they're hunt trying to
hunt him down like a wild animal,
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and you know, do whatever they
end as silence him. Well, yeah,
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without a doubt, I don't blame
him for being nervous. I mean,
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we know what happens with people that
are not holding to the party line.
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But the other interesting thing also when
you consider the environment here Steve right
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now, is we're hearing more about
whistleblowers. I mean, there seems to
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be chinks in the armor that uh, you know, are coming out.
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I mean, especially the IRS whistleblowers, which you know, on the surface
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is very dangerous because I mean,
their careers are done right well, it's
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you know, by their own testimony. It's worse than that their careers are
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not only finished, their lives they're
finished. Yeah, at least that the
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IRS is trying very hard to to
ruin them so utterly that they and of
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course these various FBI whistle blowers as
well, you know, ruin these people
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to make sure that that any others
who might want to come forth and tattle
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to the American people about what's going
on behind the scenes are maximally disincentifized from
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doing something. Well, it's no
wonder oh, as A Gallop took a
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recent poll and something like sixteen of
the institutions, the majority of Americans believe
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are compromised and corrupt. Well,
sure, the majority of Americans are correct.
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This is not a new thing.
I mean, you and I are
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both old enough to remember the Clinton
years and how appalling what was when all
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of that corruption came out. It's
only gotten worse. But we unfortunately,
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you know, on the one hand, we had the ideal of a government
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under the constitution, rule of law, limited equal rights for all, and
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then on the other we have this
increasingly stark reality that there is a bunch
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of usurping gangsters that seems calling the
shots, and not just in the White
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House, but in all of the
levels of the executive branch and to a
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considerable extent in Congress as well.
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how quick seemingly it occurred. I
mean, we can go back and look
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back in the most recent era of
the Only years and what President Obama meant
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when he talked about the fund the
mental transformation of our country. Little did
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we know to what degree and what
depth uh he was intending. And the
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remnants of this administration continue and they're
boy, they're deep in the deep state
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and or uh at at all at
all levels and with and I think with
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desperation, and maybe you sense a
little bit more of this desperation because you
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know, I think at the end
of the day, Steve, we can
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have some hope that there are people
like uh, like these whistleblowers, these
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i RSI whistleblowers that are willing to
put it all on the line for the
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sake of this great American idea and
the high values that our country stands for.
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I mean, all it takes is, you know, maybe a couple
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of more and maybe the dominoes really
start to fall where there's no recovery.
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Well, it could be. I
mean I am very optimistic, but in
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the short run, I think it's
not going to be easy. It's going
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to be probably a long slog to
really win our country back. I mean,
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these powers have become so entrenched and
so arrogant, and so smugly secure
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of their own you know, unassailability
that you know there and there and with
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some justifications, it's hard hard to
get to them. We're seeing this now.
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You know, the the FBI and
the DOJ have effectively told Congress to
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go scratch on a number of occasions. Congress, Yeah, an institution that
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created them. They're telling them.
No, no, no, we're not.
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We're not going to reveal this.
You can go away. We don't
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care what you do, you know. And it's it's kind of frightening to
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see that this, this executive branch
user patient that's going on, this is
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really treasonous, isn't it. I
mean, it just in ways that you
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and I would understand it to be. But you know, I think Jordan
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Peterson said it quite clearly that you
can become so ideologically fixed that you render
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yourself stupid. And it seems that
these group of acolytes have really, you
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know, abandoned ship when it comes
to common sense or any kind of sense
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of truthfulness. Well, in a
constitution republic, user patient is treason.
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It's a form of treason. But
you know, we like to use polite
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language, so of course, as
they used to say, none dare call
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it treason. This is part of
the reason for the pick that we're in,
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yes, is that they get away
with it out the way, with
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it for so long without being confronted. And I have to say, Bill,
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I mean I am pretty impressed with
the confrontational approach and the very competent
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investigation that's been ensuing from the House, you know, the Ways and Means
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Committee and all these others. You
know, they're doing a good job so
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far. Yeah, we'll see if
anything actually comes with because the American people
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are waiting to say, well,
are there actually going to be is there
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going to be accountability? Extend?
Are we just look at all the terrible
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things? And then they just decide
and wait for the next election number one
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question. You're exactly right from the
voters. Is there going to be accountability?
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It is taking time, but it's
like anything else. You know,
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you wake up one morning say wow, where did that extra thirty pounds come
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from? And it takes a while, you know, to right the ship
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and lose the weight. And we're
having to go through the process. So
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yes, I give them credit and
I appreciate, uh, you know,
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their their attention to detail because you've
got to really, I mean, this
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is a very strategic, multi level
game of chess, so to speak,
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and you're just hoping that you can
get them in the right position to where
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you can checkmate them. Because they've
had people, you know, come to
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Congress and they flat out, like
you say, they have the audacity to
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tell our elected officials go pound sand
and then they take their own version of
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the fifth and do everything they can
to deflect office skate and avoid answering the
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questions, and to run out the
clock, so to speak, because what
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the Beltway bureaucracy knows is there's new
management coming. I mean, the chances
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of new management coming are there,
and they can only hope, you know,
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for all that they've got all this
in the game, that they've got
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in this, they can hope that
maybe they can rig the twenty twenty four
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election and live another day, or
maybe end up with a golden parachute like
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call me and the rest of them
got right? Well, yeah, And
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I mean we need to bear in
mind that this hasn't happened overnight either.
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This is the product of several generations
of patient Fabian gradualism on the part of
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what we now call the radical left
and the deep state to erect this sort
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of parallel government that wields all the
safe facto power and defiance of the law.
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You know, what we're looking at
now, historically, I think,
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is we're going to answer, perhaps
for posterity one for all, whether it
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is possible to reform a constitutional republic
under the law without having recourse to what
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people always had in the past,
which is tyranny followed by violence, followed
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by fragment, all the rest of
the stuff, the usual remedy. We'll
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get desperate and things run out.
The question is whether the constitution is resilient
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enough, whether our republic is resilient
enough, whether our culture, our Christian
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culture, is resilient enough that we
can ultimately turn this thing around, probably
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over the course of the next several
generations, and restore a semblance of constitutional
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legitimacy to our government. Well,
Steve, I had to tell you that
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this whole situation has been so bothersome
for me. And as I go back
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and as I mentioned Jordan Peterson and
about you know, people being in their
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silos and the bureaucrats holding you know, defiantly to their their ideology, it's
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no wonder. I mean that they
were able to convince you can call them
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rhinos, and so they were already
leaning in that direction, but they they
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had to convince them. Going back
to Donald Trump, that first of all,
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he had to in a sense kind
of using Donald Trump's terms of how
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he was able to you know,
Trump putin and even jee was he just
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put out there. He gave them
ten percent doubt that he figured all he
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had to do was have them question
maybe ten percent possible the possibility that Trump
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would retaliate in means that was not
going to be beneficial for Russia or China.
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And it's interesting what the deep state
has done is they put in ten
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percent doubt in the minds of the
electorate, in our elected officials, with
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Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell in them
to question that maybe Trump could be an
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operative. I mean, you got
John McCain involved, John McCain, you
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know, one of the heroes of
the Senate, involved in transporting this false
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document, this dossier, the Steel
dossier. He's participating in this. So
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you've got the machinations of the Republican
Party and the Guard participating with the Democrats
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invalidating their own standard bearer, their
own president. And you know, this,
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this ideology, like like a cancer, metastasized and spread throughout the body
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politic and especially there on the Beltway, leaving that doubt that maybe Trump was
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illegitimate in some form. And you
know, and here what we got.
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We could have had Obamacare gone,
but John McCain with his infamous thumbed down
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you know that he had to look
so arrogant and defiant about what he did,
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the damage that he did to our
country. And at the end of
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the day, you look at those
four years that Trump gave us energy and
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dependence, a secure border, no
wars, wars that everybody said, oh,
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you know, this illegitimate president,
he's going to take us to ward.
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You know, if anything, he
started to move us out of Afghanistan
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after twenty years now, the way
it was finally executed, obviously, there's
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lots to be debated on that,
and many of us do not agree with
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how Joe Biden executed the exit out
of Afghanistan. But when you look at
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all the other things that Donald Trump
did on behalf of our country, uh
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and and and with the resistance that
he had to put up with and tolerate,
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even from his own party, it's
a wonder that he was able to
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do when he was able, what
he able, was able to accomplish what
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he did. Steve, I went
on there for a while, so you
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know, I did I lose you
here, That's that's okay. Yeah,
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I think I gave you a lot
of informations there, but it's just I
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mean, I'm trying to understand and
and maybe uh you might be able to
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encapsulate or at least help me further
understand this mindset, this ideology that uh,
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you know, the bureaucrats bought into. And that's in part what we're
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dealing with today is that the Democrats
on the left have really gone over the
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top in thinking that anybody that uh, you know, adheres to conserve it
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values are Donald Trump or just evil. Well, I mean, as far
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as the ideology is concerned, I
think that that we can sum up it's
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the ideology of power, and it's
it's recognizable anywhere any time or place in
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history. It has more or less
the same contours. And the people who
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are yeah what a deep state are
people for whom power is not the means
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really but the end, as orwell
portrayed, you know, in nineteen eighty
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four and so forth, that power
is what they want. Power is for
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them, you know, the ultimate
form of pleasure. So that's the ideology.
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And as far as Donald Trump concerned, it seems to me, I
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mean, there are a couple of
things that need to be said. First
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of all, I think he seriously
underestimated the power of the deep state.
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Oh, without a doubt, seriously
underestimated, and he continues to estimate them
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because there, I mean, if
if you want to, if you want
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to see what the deep state thinks
they have in store for Donald Trump,
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and barring a miracle, this is
probably how it'll wind up. Look at
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Brazil. So Jayibulsunaru, who was
the president of Brazil, great guy,
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friend of Trump, admirer of Trump, anti communist, you got rid of
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the Marxist influence, started you know, to enormous strides toward towards returning Brazil
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to some sort of a free country. After he'd been wrecked by Lila da
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Silva and others of his ilk and
he was defeated by electoral fraud last year
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and last week. Then that,
Steve, let's do this. Let's let's
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let's break for now, we'll come
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I'm Bill Martinez. For more information
on the show, you can check it
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out Bill Martinez Show dot com.
Our guest is Steve Banta. Steve is
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with the American magazine Steve Real Quick. Well, well we got you here.
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Let's talk a little bit about your
book. You and I haven't had
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a chance to get into much detail
because we get going and talking about current
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events, which are all that important. But maybe you can tell our viewers
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about your book. Okay, Well, the book is a written about twenty
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years ago, so it's it's a
little bit dated. There's some more information,
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and we're thinking about doing an update. Pretty I thought I thought you
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did an update. I thought there
was a Kendall. Maybe there's a Kendal
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version of the older book. I
guess maybe there is, yeah, But
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I mean, in particular, if
we update it, it's about the United
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Nations system, the history and so
forth. I think probably the you know,
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the major development in the last twenty
years or so has been the rise
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of this global environmentalist movement that has
really really become sort of the lynchpin for
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the whole movement to transform the United
Nations into more of a true global government.
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It's really become the chief pretext.
So that's that's an important thing that
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was just getting started back at the
beginning of this century when I wrote that
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book. So much has happened in
twenty years, and as you say,
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fast forward, and here we are
in the United Nations now conjunction with the
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WHO potentially setting up these agreements with
all the countries of the world to have
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the WHO be in charge of the
of the administration of any pandemic going forward.
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This is incredible to me because it
wasn't like we can come away after
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the two and a half years of
the experience that we went through in dealing
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with this pandemic and the you know
what the WHO did at the end of
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the day. I can't come and
say, wow, I'm sure glad to
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WHO was there because they did such
a great job. And now we're going
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to reward them. The Biden administration
wants to elevate them to be, you
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know, the finals say and the
arbitrator of you know, in a sense,
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we're surrendering our sovereignty, but they
will be the last word when it
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comes to dealing with a pandemic here
in the United States. But that's just
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mind blowing to think of that possibility. But it's it's more than a possibility.
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Is they continue to move closer to
securing that arrangement? Well, yeah,
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and I mean, did you know
that this month, within a few
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days, I'm not sure of the
exact date, there's going to be a
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meeting by an obscure UN organization that's
in charge of the regulation of international shipping,
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and they're going to try to impose
the first ever un administered global tax.
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Did you know that? Yes that
I was aware of this last month
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in a meeting in Paris that nobody
paid any attention to, although it had.
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I mean, the roster of attendees
was a veritable who's who of globalist
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including a number of heads of European
state and a couple you know, I
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believe what's what's her name, Janet
Yellen was there, So so there were
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ye, So you're going, what's
your name, Jenny Ellen? That's what
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the Chinese said. Just a couple
of day, Yeah, missus cawtow.
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But in many events, um so
at this meeting, which was held in
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late June in Paris, The purpose
of the meeting was to figure out a
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compulsory mechanism to fund this new loss
and damage International Wealth Distribution program that was
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agreed upon last year at the COP
twenty seven UN Environmental Summit in Charmel Shak,
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Egypt. And the idea there is
that climate change is all the fault
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of the rich countries, and so
they now have to begin paying reparations for
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climate loss and damage to the poor
countries to the tune of literally trillions of
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dollars. Probably, how do you
get the rich countries to do that.
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It's one thing for them to all
mouth the platitudes and so forth and promise
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that they're going to pony up the
money, but that it's another thing to
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force them to do it. So
the idea they hit upon last month was
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why don't we impose a UN tax
on all international shipping. And we're going
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to call it a carbon emissions tax, okay, and so, and we're
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going to collect it and and and
so forth. And it was agreed upon,
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received with rapturous enthusiasm, and supposedly
it's going to be formal this month
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and then probably be brought to being
next year or in twenty twenty five,
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and at that point the UN system. That will be a major inflection point
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in the history of the UN system
because for the first time it will be
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able to tax directly. It will
have a stream of revenue independent of the
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donations of member states, and that
is of course one of the key ingredients
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to becoming a true global government is
having the power to tax. Exactly.
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Wow, this is this is going
to be I can't imagine if Donald Trump
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gets elected in twenty twenty four that
Donald Trump is going to go along with
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paying attacks. What do you think
I can't Actually to circle back to what
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we were talking about before my internet
failed here before the break, you know,
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I mean, one mistake we shouldn't
make is assume that just electing Donald
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Trump is going to be kind of
the end all, because you know,
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I mean, obviously the deep state
is shown how much power they wield over
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the elector process. And of course
while they they're just out and and daring
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people to to do, including Congress, do anything about it. They've indicted
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Donald Trump. They're planning to do
to him what Brazil is trying to do
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to Bolsonado, put him in prison
for the rest of his life, and
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the solution. Obviously, it's nice
to have a president like Donald Trump in
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the White House who seems to take
his oath of office and fealty to the
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Constitution relatively seriously. But the power
and extent and wealth and influence of the
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deep state, as manifest in the
FED, in the judicial system, in
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the regulatory agencies, obviously, in
the business world, the woke businesses and
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so forth and so on, that
aren't even you know, really part of
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the government, is so considerable.
That's yeah. I mean, I mean,
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I think a more realistic solution,
the real way to regain control of
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our country, in addition to retaking
the White House, is to retake Congress
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and also the state legislatures. I
mean, after all, we are a
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federal republic. The states are or
used to have considerable power under the Constitution,
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and so, you know, but
that's going to require a more energetic
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and educated electorate for that to happen. And this is a maybe a slow
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process, but there's a lot of
indications that, as you said before,
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you know, we are turning the
ship around. Yeah, and I think
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that people are starting to get a
grasp of what the truth is here.
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Steve. I'm optimistic. In fact, I'm going to tell you I had
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actually believed that twenty twenty was going
to be such a resounding defeat of the
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Democrats that they were going to have
to, you know, step away for
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a while, and I mean for
maybe even ten years to kind of reconnoiter
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and reinvent themselves. That didn't happen
for obvious reasons, no doubt, and
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they were able to live another day. But I think that what comes into
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play here, Steve, is that
old pennzoil commercial is that you can pay
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me now or pay me later.
Obviously, when you pay sooner, the
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pain of the payment is a lot
less as opposed to later. And I
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believe this to be true. Is
the Democratic Party is going to realize the
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added expense and the pain of paying
for their sins, so to speak,
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later the deep state, no doubt
about it. But all this is coming
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to light now. Keep in mind, if you remember, we didn't hear
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about the deep state until Donald Trump
came into play, And so how much
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could Donald Trump really know about the
deep state, even fake news without having
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to be inside the bubble? And
he paid the price. He went inside,
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saw what was going on, and
called it out. But now it
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takes You're exactly right, It takes
an intelligent and an informed electorate to see
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what's going on. I'll tell you
this little story. Over the weekend,
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I get a call from the RNC. They're fundraising, right, Hey,
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you know, can you give us
a hundred bucks? And here's all these
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great things, you know, on
behalf of Conservatives and the Republican Party we're
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doing and YadA, YadA, YadA
YadA. And I'm listening. And normally
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I don't take those phone calls.
I see what they are, and I
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just I just ignore them. I
send them, you know, the voicemail.
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But I thought, okay, I
had a couple of minutes. I
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wanted to listen to what. I
wanted to listen to the pitch. So
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for two and a half minutes,
you know, she's going on and on
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about all these great things, the
Republican Party, everything else. And so
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finally, after about two and a
half minutes, I said, you know,
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ma'am, first of all, are
you a real person? Are you
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a robot? I don't know if
I'm talking to be because she was just
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going on. It was, you
know, kind of a set speech.
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And she goes, oh, well, I'm I'm on a computer and i'm
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you know, I'm reading the previ
I said, well, yeah, that's
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obvious because you're just like ripping through
this stuff. And I said, but
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let me let me say this to
you. You know, I do a
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daily show, and in a sense, I am giving the Republican Party and
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Conservatives in kind promotion because this is
what I believe in and I'm promoting that.
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I said, but for two and
a half minutes, you've been telling
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me all this stuff. But I
want you to know the number one issue
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with my audience and viewers is this, and you need to take note of
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this, because in two and a
half minutes you didn't even mention this,
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and that is we want to know
that the RNC is securing the vote.
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Dead silence, she had nothing to
say other than when she caught her breath,
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she goes, well, can you
at least give me fifty dollars?
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Well, I mean, obviously,
like everything else in this world, you
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do have to have money, you
know, to run for office. I
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mean, I sort of sympathize for
that with that, but but it's true.
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I mean a lot of people,
you know, here's the here,
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here's the thing, Bill, I
mean this term conservative that we that we
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bandy about so freely, What what
does it actually mean to be conservative?
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And I would submit that that being
conservative of is important, but it's it's
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it's the beginning. A lot of
people out there are very conservative but aren't
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necessarily well informed. And so when
the Republicans come out with a nice sounding
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thing that reverberates with their conservative instincts, they don't necessarily ask themselves, well,
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is this actually, you know,
constitutionally legitimate, you know, a
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wise idea in the long run,
if this or or perhaps the key question,
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okay, if Republicans in power pass
measure X that sounds conservative and sounds
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great as long as it's wielded by
Republicans who might trust, how will this
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same measure be applied when inevitably the
Democrats come to power again without a doubt.
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Quick, let's let's let's stay on
that thought for just a moment.
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that so often conservatives in their conservatives
by name only, I mean because it
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kind of like it feels good and
it's comfortable. But in this day and
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age, you've got to know what
you stand and what you believe in.
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The Other thing that we've been promoting
time and again seriously is to know the
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difference between the legitimate and the counterfeit. There's lots of you know, fake
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news, anonymous reporting and that that
we've been bombarded with, and we just
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cannot accept that. We need to
make sure what we you know, what's
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coming into our minds and our spirits
is legitimate. But if you don't study
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the legitimate, you're going to get
fooled by the counterfeit. And we know
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the Democrats, they've been working at
their craft and doing this for a long
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time and they're really good, and
you've got to give them credit for what
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they've been able to do. The
other thing that you will notice when you
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go to our website there is a
donate button and I had a couple of
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people say to me, is it
built? You know? Can I donate
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and use as a tax deduction.
Absolutely, that's what this is all about.
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We have a five H one C
three Hill of Hope that we partner
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with, So when you click on
the donate button, you can donate use
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it as a tax deduction however you
need whenever you're doing your filings and if
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you find yourself in need of a
tax deduction. We appreciate your offering and
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your donation to you know, keep
this show on the air and to support
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our efforts to you know, to
write the ship here. As Steve said,
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you know, that's what we got
to do. We've got to write
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the ship and we've got you know, Steve Bonta, what seventy percent of
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the country, according you know,
according to Rasmussen, believes that we're on
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the wrong track. Right. Well, that's my understanding. I don't I
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know, I don't know how they
phrase the question. Yea, so we'd
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say beyond the wrong track? What
does that mean? Maybe some people think
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are thinking, well, you know, the United States is on the wrong
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track because my favorite sports team didn't
win. I mean maybe, you know,
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I don't know what that means.
If it's it's a very very vague,
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open ended question, and it doesn't
necessarily translate into ballot box results.
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But well, yeah, exactly,
there's a sense of deep dissatisfaction. I
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think that's fair to say, Well, well, clearly that and as my
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just you hear that number, I'm
always suspicious when you know they'll say,
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well, you know, thirty five
forty percent of the country thinks Joe Biden
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is doing a good job. Now, I got to tell you, in
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my circles, maybe I'm just I
don't know, you know, I got
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to broaden my circles, but in
the circles I travel and even in my
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travels across the country, asked me
how many people I've run into that have
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said Joe Biden is doing a great
job? How many? Zero? Okay,
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yeah, well I haven't run into
end of those either. But of
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course, you know, you know, I mean, we on the so
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called right, we tend to associate
with like minded people in church and work
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and this kind of thing. But
um, no, I daresay if you
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were to go to get the average
you know, large university campus, I
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mean, you'd probably find the overwhelming
majority of people would express satisfaction with what
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Joe Biden's doing. I mean,
I occasionally do deliberately expose myself to the
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CNN and the MSN, NBC type
news media just to see what they're saying.
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And it's like they live in a
different cosmos, it really is.
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And or NPR, you know,
listen to NPR, and all of these
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media organs pretty much portray Joe Biden. Is this urbane, rational East Coast
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liberal elite uncle Joe, kindly old
guy. Yeah, he's getting a little
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bit long into the tooth, but
he's still, you know, the steady
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hand at the tiller after that baffle
Donald Trump. There are a large number
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of people, particularly on the you
know, the east and the left coast
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and the larger interior urban areas who
believe this, and of course on university
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campuses, and they do constitute a
pretty substantial, you know, percentage of
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the population. Partly it's because they
agree with the agenda, I mean,
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the wocal agenda is is really quite
popular, particularly among people under thirty,
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and partly because they are more or
less satisfied with with with what they're getting
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from and they don't consume Fox News, they don't watch the show and other
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shows like it online on the airway
and so forth, and so on,
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so they just they literally many of
them don't even know all of this.
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But see do they get do they
get a special discount but go to the
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grocery store or something? I mean, is there a special you know card
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if you're a card carrying Democrat that
you know, you get a reduction in
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your groceries or when you go to
the gas, I mean go to get
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gas. I mean these are real
issues. I mean, you talk about
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tabletop issues. The other thing too, I might add, uh, you
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know the coveted you know, suburban
housewives. You know that the Democrats have
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such a stronghold on I think there's
a disturbance in the forest in light of
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Joe Biden, you know, as
you just you know, you just characterize
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this vuncular, you know, old
statesman who's been around forever and a nice
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guy, and then we say what
he's done in rejecting his seventh grandchild,
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the uh, the suburban housewife that
doesn't sit well with them? Well yeah,
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I mean, but I mean,
speaking from personal experience as someone who
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was raised in the East. I
don't live in the East now, but
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it's raised in the East by kind
of an old Eastern family with you know,
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pretty much liberal ideas, you know, being raised with that, I
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do have some maybe some insight into
the mindset, right. And so here
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are a couple of things that you
show you're telling you're telling me they're not
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going to invite me for Christmas,
for Thanksgiving dinner? Is that what you're
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telling me? Yeah? Well,
I mean, but there here a couple
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of things about the about the liberal
mindset, and it is a mindset,
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and it goes back a long ways. I mean, it goes back to
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the In some ways, it's almost
a modern, a sort of deformed version
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of Puritanism because many of the things
that they do are very much in line
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with with the old Puritans. They
don't see it, but that the old
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New England Puritanism very except that Puritans
were religious and god fearing and Christian.
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The liberals, of course, typically
are not. But but a couple of
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you know, a couple of things. First of all, your average liberal
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liberal is someone who lives in a
bubble as far as their income is concerned.
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If you live in you know,
Prince George's county and you're you're you're
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making this huge income, you know, as a lobbyist in DC or something
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like this, or if you if
you're a tenured professor at the University of
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Chicago or something like this, you
don't care that much about the price of
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gas or the price of grosses the
way say a farmer in Iowa would okay,
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or a small business owner in any
you know, you know, Main
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Street, USA type of setting.
The fact is they make a lot of
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money now because they have rejiggered the
system in such a way that people who
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that these people who literally produce nothing
of value, who are festooned with law
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degrees and and and MBAs and degrees
and you know, government management or whatever
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it happens to be, can go
and live in the greater DC area or
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the greater New York area or the
greater Chicago area or whatever and do whatever
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it is they do in their jobs
in which they have praised basically nil possibility
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of ever being fired. They have
a golden parachute and what the Chinese called
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an iron rice bowl, very nice
expression in Chinese, which is Chinese free.
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A government job that will will guarantee
you know, rice in the pot
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your entire life, and that's what
they have. So from their perspective,
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you know, these you know,
stock market fluctuations and economic recessions are just
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trivial to them, I mean the
average. I mean, remember, the
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wealthiest counties in the United States are
the ones that ring Washington, d C.
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Exactly. They're not wealthy because the
people living there are the next generation
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of Sam Walton's you know there there. This isn't because they've got a bunch
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of wealthy entrepreneurs who are erecting you
know, great you know engines of capitalism.
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No, they are all the parasitic
classes who have turned parasitism on the
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body politic into the ultimate you know, career and safety net. Exactly.
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Wow. Yeah, I have relatives
and friends who are have been beneficiary as
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of this system, and it's remarkable. So so, if you are a
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person who has who you know,
who likes going to school, taking classes,
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getting degrees, why in the world
would you take the risk of going
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to do something productive like working in
a private corporation or start having forfends,
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start your own business with that degree, or even start your own law practice
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and help people, let's say,
and when you can go to DC or
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Manhattan and get a job in which
in which you know your coffers are going
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to overflow with taxpayer funds and you
don't have to worry but every getting fired.
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What a marvelous existence that is.
So they live in this cloud cuckoo
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land of their own construction that we
have permitted them to create and sustain and
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build up. But of course now
they're fighting savagely to keep it. And
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as you rightly observed, I mean, they certainly perceived Trump, who was
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and remains you know, a consummate, you know, free market entrepreneur.
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Uh, you know, they see
him as a mortal threat to this whole
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system of theirs. Well, Steve, as we wrap things up here,
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I'm going to give you an opportunity
to remind our viewers how they can connect
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with the New American magazine and connect
with you and uh you know follow you
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know, follow your commentaries. Okay, well you can. You can read
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the New You can subscribe to the
New American. Visit our website at the
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New American dot com. We also
have a daily show which I frequently co
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host. So yeah, and we
like to bill ourselves as providing the truth
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behind the news. We are not
driven just by the twenty four hour news
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cycle, but we are We aim
to help people understand what's going on.
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You know, the reality the principles
undergird all of this. Well, and
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what you do show aligns with the
philosophy of our show and our commitment to
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bring the truth to the people and
to you know, give them this information
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to be able to have an opportunity
like this, Steve, to go and
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give them a deep dive into these
topics again, so that they would be
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motivated enough to own their own knowledge, do some discovery on these issues,
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so that they will not be fooled
because you know, as you said,
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the ruling elites, they're not going
to give up the control and power that
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easy. We're going to have to
take it away from them, aren't we.
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Well, absolutely, and and and
just bear in mind, I mean
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this republic was created for virtuous people, and that that means moral virtue.
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It also means understanding. And neither
of those two things are necessarily easy to
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develop and to maintain. But we
have to as citizens in this American Republic,
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otherwise we will lose our republic to
the unvirtual Well, Steve Bonta,
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the executive senior editor for The New
American magazine. Steve, thank you so
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much for being with us. I
appreciate the time for more information and to
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be a part of this mighty Martinis
movement to return to God and to save
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our country. Check it out Bill
Martinez Show dot com. May God bless
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you, and may keep you and
make His face shine upon you. Go
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and be blessed beyond your imagination.
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