Fasting for a Change: A 21-Day Journey of Discovering Who God Created You to Be

0:00 The topics and opinions express in the following show are solely those of the hosts and their guests and not those of W FOURCY Radio. It's employees are affiliates. We make no recommendations or endorsements for radio show programs, services, or products mentioned on air or on our web. No liability, explicit or implied shall be extended to W FOURCY Radio or it's employees are affiliates. Any questions or comments should be directed to those show hosts. Thank you for choosing W FOURCY Radio. Well, welcome, glad you could join us. I'm Bill Martinez and we are live. For more information on the show, you can go to Bill Martinez Show dot com. With the year wrapping up and the start of can you believe how fast it's gone? Right? But what we generally do at the end of the year, at least has been my tradition is you you know, you look back, you look in the rearview mirror and consider the thing that you've got right, maybe the things you could have done better. And in the new year, you know, what are you going to do? Are you open for a change? Are there some things that we need to do differently? Well? Our next guest Tammy Hotson Pillar, who has been a dear friend for so many years. And I love this lady so dear because as a sister in Christ, a prayer warrior, just an outstanding person. I mean, somebody that you would love to know.

1:32 I mean, she's just so dear because she's so honest and all these great attributes that she has. It's no wonder that other women gravitate to her because of the just a positivity and being such a woman of God and a woman of prayer. She has focused on fasting for a number of years and she's become an evangelist in a says for fasting basically because it works. And so her new book is titled Fasting for a Change. It's a twenty one day journey of discovering who God created you to be. Are you ready for that journey? Well, Tammy Hodson Pillar is with us and I want her to join us now. Tammy, welcome to the show. Good to have you with us, So Bill, thank you so much. It's always an honor to be on your show. You are a good friend of my husband Phil and I and been in our church and we've been on your show, and I just kind of an honor to be with you today. Well, I hope you don't mind me bragging on you, because I think the world of both you guys, And this is our time, you know, Phil and I we're blessed to talk most weeks and we have that time, and I don't get as much time with you. I think he protects you.

2:50 Well, I don't know. I don't know about that. I'm always busy either with our women's ministry or writing a book or But of course I love listening to your show. I love hearing him on your show, and just appreciate you so much. Yeah, we do have a great chemistry. It's a lot of fun the way we've played off each other. And you know the history because you were there in the early days. Phil was one of the first guests that we had on Bill Martinez Live. When I was in Los Angeles at k Bright Radio. He came to the studios and was one of the first guests that we had because at the time, Tammy, after I graduated from Bible College, and I felt like God was calling me back behind the microphone, and I thought, well, God, you know, I was a juvenile before I was behind the microphone. But I'm you know, playing music and taking requests and you know, talking about these basic, mundane kind of things. But to get behind the microphone and talk about the things of God, well, I'll tell you it was rather a bit of a wake up moment and one that was a bit nerve wracking. But I said, Okay, Lord, if this is what you're telling me to do, then I need to pursue something that is going to be consistent with a biblical worldview in pursuit of the truth. And I felt like that's where God was leading me. And here we are fifteen years later, and you and I are on We're on television now. You know, I just just hit me in my spirit, and I think, who's ever listening right now on the show? Is God open stores of opportunity for all of us. There's platforms for all of us. And you may not be a radio host,

4:23 but you have social media. You can jump on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter or whatever platform you use. We all have an audience to share the gospel. And you've been a faithful servant obviously through radio and now television. So all of us need to get on these platforms, and we need to share our voice, our convictions, the claims of Christ. So yeah, kudos to you for using this platform for so long. But I'm so grateful to be on your show today and talk about my new book, Fasting for a Change Now, and I do want to get in that. But you just touched on something right now in terms of what we all can contribute here. We need to activate. We need to activate for the kingdom and kingdom principles. It's kind of like what happened with the prophet when he was served, you know, the bad soup, the bad porridge, right, because there was there was death in the porridge. And what did he ask for, Tammy? He asked for get me the good stuff. Let's dilute the evil with the good stuff. And so what you were just saying, that's what came to mind is that this is what we need to do, is people who are in control of the good stuff, we need to pour that into the culture, don't We absolutely? Absolutely? And you know, as an advocate, both as a pastor of a church as a life coach, I work with the Women's ministry. The one thing I do is to empower people, to encourage and inspire people. You know, it's so easy for us to look at someone else and think I can't do it. You know,

5:54 they have a larger platform, or they have a larger voice, or they have more money or bigger resource. But I'm just saying this on right now in my spirit, everyone has a platform to share convictions and truth, and so I just wanted to encourage someone right now before we jump into the book and what we're doing. We're living in a day bill. It's incumbent upon us. I mean, we've seen what's happened since COVID in the last three years, since this pandemic, and the enemy has been very strategic. I was on your show last year and we talked about the enemy brought a spirit of destruction, of fear of lies, and we are beginning to wake up. I think the church is even beginning to wake up and say we fell for the lie of the enemy. And one of the reasons when when we get to the book is when Holy Spirit spoke to me, he said, would you be willing to fast for a change. You know, I believe we need a change in America. We're getting ready to go into an election shortly, and I really really believe that we can see a change in America, but it has to start with us. The change has to start with us, the Church, bride the believers, and when the change happens, we'll see a corporate change in our country. Exactly. Well, when you go back and consider the two hundred and forty seven year history of this country, where did it begin? It came out of the churches, right, that was the catalyst for all this great unless we forget. So we need to go back and re embrace those founding principles, those what I call, you know, first principles, and re embrace those to get this country back

7:25 on track. Because you're exactly right down me. I mean, should God terry okay, we don't know. I mean you and I we've talked about the prophetic. You know Phil as well. You know he's a prophecy expert. We look at all the signs and wonders and we go, okay, Lord, if it's not the final chapter of revelations, then we need to be about the father's business. What is the father's business right now? Should this not be the exact appointed time? Well, you remember at Thesalonians when they all sat aroun and they're waiting for you know the end to come. And he said he basically one thing he said was you don't work, you don't need get up. You don't know the day or the hour that our Lord's coming. So we're going to work. We're going to be ambassadors, we're going to be the children of God. And you know, I just want to say this is probably a new topic for your audience because most Christians don't understand fasting. I mean, I'd love to delve into why fasting.

8:24 I mean, we can pray for revival, you know, we can activate revival, but why fast Hammy, I mean people asking all the why. Yeah, and that's a good question. And I'm going to let you unwrap that right now. Why fasting? Okay, so let me just say this. I grew up in the church like so many of us did, and fasting was not a component that was taught to me. It wasn't one of the spiritual disciplines. I learned about prayer, you know, I learned about worship, I learned about reading the Word of God. But I did not learn about fasting. And yet Bill the Bible's replete story after story after story, Old and New Testament on fasting. So why fasting. Why did Jesus say, when the disciples came to him and they could not cast the demon out of this little boy? He looked at him and he said, howbeit this kind only comes out by prayer and fasting. Why is it in Matthew six, when the disciples came and he took up up on the mountain, and he says, when you give, when you pray, when you fast, the church is supposed to fast. So let's talk about this a little bit. Most of your listeners and viewers probably know that we're right now.

9:33 We're living in a day of what's called intermittent fasting. It's kind of a new sheet cool thing to do. We're all fasting for weight loss, or we're fasting for our health. And I will first of all say, the enemy will take anything biblical and he will try to substitute it. So this isn't a physical fast for my physical well being, although there will be the benefits of it. This is a spiritual discipline where I literally and learning how to take my flesh and say no to food. Now, let me go a little deeper here, Bill, because most people don't understand this. The word in the original language fast in the Greek means no food. In the Hebrew it means shut your mouth. So literally it's a picture of not eating or consuming food. It's not about fasting from social media or Netflix or shopping, which are some things churches are trying to teach today. I say, I think it's great to omit those things from your life. But when we're talking about a spiritual fast, bill, it's me saying to my flesh, no, to the desires of my flesh. So I say yes to kingdom principles and kingdom prayer request exactly, well, this is this is God mandated.

10:48 I mean we have to follow what God has said, not what man said. Right, sure, well absolutely, I mean it's a spiritual discipline. And you know so for me, I fast on a regular basis. Now I want to say to those listening, I'd love to have you join us starting January twenty first for a twenty one day national corporate fast. So I'm inviting churches. My book is out. I'd love you to get my book on my website or on Fasting for Amazon you can find it. But I lead you in a twenty one day fast, and I have coaching videos every morning for you for twenty one days on my website, and I'll walk you through these twenty one days that we're looking for personal change in our life.

11:28 And I've chosen twenty one categories that we will ask God for personal change in our life. But what it is, Bill, it is me. And I've now been fasting for many years. I've learned the power of saying no to the gratifying of my flesh and saying yees. So when my stomach grumbles, or when I'm on that clock for breakfast, lunch, dinner, a snack, whatever it is, I say no. I literally then am pressing in and saying, Holy Spirit, I'm asking you for this, for this, for this, And it is a war, Bill, It's a spiritual war. For those twenty one days. My stomach's going to ground my desires for that chocolate chip cookie, for that whatever it is I want to go after. But when you had to say chocolate chip cookies, huh, you knew my weakness, especially with nuts. I tell people, Dammy, just sidebar here real quick, is that when we get to heaven, it's chocolate chip cookies with nuts. Well, I'll remember that when I send you some Christmas cookies. Okay, but what it is, but do it before, do it before January, because I'm in with you on the journey.

12:31 Okay, we'll thread on the tree first together. But everybody listen up. That what it is is, I'm learning how to say no to my flesh. And I coach people all the time. Bill. If I can say no to food, I can say no to other things exact, to other temptations that come my way or things that the enemy brings my way. So it's literally learning we can activate our flesh by saying no to certain things. Now, literally, I'm not trying to get everyone to fast three hundred and sixty five days a year. You fast, Holy Spirit prompts you to fast. You might fast if you're grieving or for a prayer request, or for a healing or a breakthrough or a miracle or a job or so there's certain times where Holy Spirit will say, Tama, will you fast today right?

13:13 Or were you fast this week? And in my book, Bill, I go through the different types of fast and you know what happens if I'm diabetic, or what happens if I'm this or that, And I want to coach people in that. But what I want to teach your audience today, is that there is a biblical principle on fasting and learning how to say no to our flesh to press into the things of the spirit for supernatural miracles and divine change. Well, God says in his word that there is that that holy designated, sanctified fast, right, and that is the fast that is designated by God. Again, like we talked about in what you were saying earlier, Tammy, that this comes from you know what God has told us to do. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I remember being on your show last year. This is actually my book on fasting. And last year I wrote a book called Fasting for Miracles, And as you know, I was believing God for some supernatural miracles, and so that was what I did all year long. I read through that book it's again twenty one days, and pressed into the supernatural realm of miracles. But again this year when I began to write this next book, it was for a change, because Bill, I have seen what's happened to America over the last three years.

14:24 I've seen what's happened to our churches. Is they shut down, they became weak and woke. And I'm not trying to be judged. I'm not the judge of anyone, and christ bride is his bride. But I've seen how we've become weak, and I just think we have to change. We have to personally change. I mean, that's why I'm a life coach. I encourage people to have personal growth and personal change. But I believe that fasting, combined with our prayer and that petition to God, we literally can see breakthrough. We can see God take us deeper. We can press in to the supernatural things of God that I really believe his church has really substituted for the things of the world. Yeah. Yeah, because we can either take the admonishment of one another or what are you going to do when when Jesus comes for his bride and he has to say, you know, get away from me. I didn't even know you. Yeah right, well, I think you know that verse. It really hits us all because we sometimes it's scary because we think to ourselves, oh my a believer, I don't want the Lord to look at me and say, depart from me. I never knew you. But I do think there's those who have come into what they think is to a relationship with Jesus Christ by works, and you know, some people will even enter into a fast by works. You know, I'm on a lot of Catholic radio shows. I'm interviewed often with my fasting books, and Catholics I respect them because they understand fasting. You know, Protestants and Evangelical churches don't often fast, and Catholic churches are so interesting. A

15:56 lot of my radio shows, they'll say, you really act like you believe even this stuff. And one not long ago, Billy goes, you look like you're doing this out of conviction, and I said to him, I said, you know, you've got to be sure that you're fast isn't brought before the Lord as something that's routine or wrote or a you know, and that's the one thing that Jesus condemned, or the pharris condemned the Pharisees of exactly is they use their works. They were bringing their works. We can never bring our works. We bring our The only righteousness we have is in the Lord Jesus Christ. So make sure, my friend, when you're fasting, it's a spiritual discipline, and you realize, hey, this is I'm going to enter into something difficult, but it's something I choose to do as a spiritual discipline. Right, yeah, between you and God. It's not like you're going around and people see you and you're frowning and looking awful, and you know somebody goes, Tammy, what's wrong. I'm fasting right right right? Well, you know Bill along those lines in my book, I talk about this because there's multiple fast in the Bible. We know that there's corporate fast. We know that you know Esther called a corporate fast, Joel called corporate fast. Many corporate fast and that's why I want to encourage your audience to join us in this nationwide corporate fast for our country. But then again, there are times of private fast. We know that David, after he had his affair with Bathsheba and he was broken over the death of his son, this child that he had, he went into a fast. There are many times in brokenness and repentance that we go into a very private personal

17:30 fast before God. So you have to determine what this fast is about. What are you fasting for? What do you want God to do? Are you bringing people around with accountability and like mindedness and you're fasting together corporately or is it a personal, private, broken fast. And you know, again, this reminds us of what we talked about last time. As you go through this experience, we highly recommend you journal this. This is so incredible because you will be so blessed because at the end of the twenty twenty one day journey, you're going to be able to look back and see how the Spirit has worked in your life, what changes actually happened, not only for you personally, but corporately, what happened in your marriage, what happened in your family, what happened here in this country. You know, are we going to be able to create a movement of revival because that's what's necessary right now for this country to get back on track. Should Jesus Terry? Yeah?

18:32 Well, and you know you've said so many great things right there, Bill, And you know, sometimes I ask myself, are we broken enough yet? And I don't know how we can be any more broken as a country. I mean, my husband was just showing me some things, and of course, you know he's got his media outlet, American Faith dot Com. I'll put all plug in for that. But he's always making me aware of news articles and I'm just like, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear all that stuff. But I see the brokenness of our country and it reminds me of the brokenness of Israel so many times in the Old Testament and even in the New Testament when the Church was broken. And I have to say, God, how broken do we have to be before we see that next great awakening? Before we see that revival? But you know who starts with. We know what Second Chronicles tells us. If my people who are called by my name will right term for the wicked ways, humble them self, repent, then I will hear And it's incumbent upon the Church. We cannot play. We can't blame the Republicans, the Democrats, our president, although I'd love to put some blame there. It's really the Church and its spiritual disciplines. I mentioned that bill because I've just done a whole podcast series of spiritual disciplines, several of them. They are are my website if any of your viewers want to look at in my Tammy hotsonpillar dot com. But I walk you through spiritual disciplines and how we literally have to understand things like prayer, fasting, Bible study, praise, all these things that we have to incorporate in our life. And Bill, I know what the church looks like today. We're

20:03 soft or entitled, We're hungry for money, we're hungry for success. I look at social media. I think, what's happened to the church. We've got to come to a place of understanding, getting back to that still small voice of God. Exactly repentance. Well, this is where Tammy, the Book of Revelations, in the early chapters come into play. As Jesus went through the lamp stands and he was a judging the church, the condition of the church, and that is so appropriate today to your point, and in my admonishment to the churches and the leadership is that you reread that chapter specifically and determine where are you, what lampstand do you represent? You know, in today's world. And because you know there there is time to change, you know, thank God, you know that we are here, that we can still respond to the admonishment of Second Chronicles seven fourteen. If if you know, if you're considered, if you consider yourself, you know God's people okay, yeah, that are called by his name, then you can still make a choice today, right right? Well amen, amen, and we see those seven churches and we have to all look and say what shadow do we represent of which church? And you know, back to what I'm saying in this whole thing, I think for me over the last few years, Bill, and I've been a believer a lot of years. As you know

21:36 my husband I passor church for many many years. There is this and sometimes I don't mean it emotional, but it's tender in my heart. There is such a desire in my heart to see the church revived. And that's why these things like fasting have really moved me. You know, I just want to take a moment and say this to some of your audience. Some people say to me things like I mentioned what's him I'm diabetic. I don't really know if I can fast or I have to eat because I low blood sugar. And in my book I referred all these on my website. But if I can just take a moment and speak, because some people all us is why they can't fast. First of all, everyone can fast from something. You can fast from chips and salsa or guacamole. You can fast from wine, you can sugar. There's certain things you can fast from or may get simple. Let me just say to those who have never fast, before you get fast, just breakfast, Just start and say I'm going to go for twenty one days and not eat breakfast and then have a morning meal. Excuse me, I have your lunch at noon, or if you're diabetic, you can have juice for breakfast and then don't eat anything. What you're trying to do, my friend, is you're just trying to offer this to God.

22:48 Start small, and be successful in your first fast, and go to your next fast and your next fast. But what you want to do is you want to show the enemy that you're serious with the things of God. So you say, Lord, I'm going to enter into this twenty one day fast with Tammy. I'm going to do a corporate fast for twenty one days, and I'm not going to eat from sun up till noon, and I'll have juice. I'm diabetic, because I don't want you to ever do anything that's going to harm your body exactly. But what you're going to do then is you're going to offer those first morning hours to the Lord in prayer. And when you want that piece of toast or that egg or that muffin, you're going to say no, I'm not going to have that for twenty one days. Because what I'm going to do is, I'm going to offer this to God. I'm going to go through these twenty one days with Tim. I'm going to get her book. I'm going to fast for a change for twenty one days. She's going to walk me through this. I'm going to offer these few hours every morning to God. Now, if you're like me, I do a sun up to sundown fast, so I don't eat breakfast or lunch, and then my husband and I eat in the evening. We eat our meal at five o'clock. So that's what we do for twenty one days.

23:52 I'm not starving. It's not going to hurt me. I get plenty of food. But what I'm doing is I am tempering my flesh up, doing my flesh. I'm saying no to my flesh and the desires. You know, don't give in to the gratification of the flesh. So I'm showing myself Tammy. If I can say no here, I can say no in other temptations. So it literally has built me up, Bill. It's made me so strong in my faith when the enemy comes and he tempts me with ungodly things, temptations, thoughts, whatever it is. I've said, Tammy, you've learned how to say no to food. You can say no to Satan in other ways. That's why I think food fast are so important for us to learn. They empower us to say no to the enemy. And again in my book and on my website, I literally walk through all the different fast Do a juice fast, do it Daniel fast. There are so many things you can do, but start small and be successful in your first fast, so you'll want to do other fast and in the journey, Tammy, My experience has been is that you kind of know when you've you kind of hit the groove of fasting because the attacks will multiply and they intensify, right, because the devil doesn't want you to do this. The you know, the flaming arrows will be coming at you. But this is why you need to war. You up with the full armor of God right and know how to quench those fiery darts, but also be encouraged. And that's the thing. I use that as encouragement the attack and I go, oh,

25:23 you know, thank you Satan. You just reminded me, you know of what I'm doing, you know, and why I'm doing this, And so again we can be thankful in all things. And that's another way in which we can well. And we never want to scare people going walfy fast. It's going to be you know, the enemy is going to be on my tail. Well, I want to say, if you fast, you're going to have power from on high. Yeah, you may have temptations. Of course, we remember it in Matthew four when Jesus was fasting for forty days. That's when Satan came and he tempted them. We know Moses on the mountain fasted for forty days, and you know he had all kinds of things that he was dealing with. Elijah faster for forty days after Jezebel, and then God brought him into really his next assignment. So we understand so many times that we see these great men and women of God fast. So I want to say to you, don't fear the enemy's arrows when he comes at you at a fast. Look and say, Satan, you're a liar.

26:18 You have no authority over me. Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. I am a conqueror. Through Christ Jesus, I am a victor. Do you see how I literally have learned to speak back to Satan. Jesus spoke to Satan and Matthew for and Luke for get thee behind me. He quoted the word of God. This is how you learn to battle the enemy. So when you're dealing with that pornography that pops up, that temptation that comes that alcohol that comes up, that anger that comes up, that defeat that comes up, that anxiety that comes up, whatever the enemy is trying to bring to you, you learn to say, Satan, you are a liar. You have no authority over me, and you have to understand the power that's in you. You know that you are equipped to be more than a conqueror. Because what happens is we live in what we think is this dualistic society that Satan and God have the same power and it's just whoever we give our attention to. That is not true, my friend, We don't live in a dualistic society. Satan does not have the same power as God. You say, get thee behind me.

27:21 All power is in you, All authority is in you. So don't go into a fast fearing that the enemy's going to come after you. Go into the fast believing that you're going to have your breakthrough and God's got so much more for you. Yeah. Amen, Stronger is he that is in you than he in the world. We're talking with Tammy Hodson Peller, dynamic author, speaker, life coach, prayer warrior, leader of a national women's movement, and of course co pastor of influenced Church of Anaheim Hills, California. Tammy, you have fasting has become a lifestyle. You've experienced this in so many ways, and the testimonies even from the last series from people that were able to bring down strongholds and realize, you know, the positive benefits of fasting and how that's been incorporated in their life. Can you share some of the stories with us please, You know, we've had so many as you know, Bill, I've done your shell numerous times. But the thing I see the most of personally is cancer that's gone and women that cannot conceive that become pregnant, and honestly, those yeah, you guys, you guys had a bumper crop last year. We have and honestly, not just baby be.

28:37 I mean, we just had a baby dedication that we couldn't get them all on the stage. But I can't tell you how many of those women could not conceive and went to our prayer wall. We'll mention this. We have a prayer wall at our church Incomes Church here in Anaheim, and we literally activate our faith both with and I remember what Jesus said, prayer and fasting. So often, your fast is your prayer, but don't forget to talk to him, communicate with him, to write things down, to look at it. In my book, there's a lot of journaling, and I give you coaching tips, and I give you all kinds of discussion questions, but activate that write it down. So again, we've seen so much cancer gone. We've seen so many people that have started businesses. As you know here at our church, my husband are both entrepreneurs. We've seen people through the last three years. As we know, our economy is hurting tremendously right now, and we've seen people that have lost their jobs that we've coached and we just helped them recreate themselves and start businesses. So many businesses, I will tell you here at Influence Church, financially we're stronger than we've ever been because God is just bringing favor to businesses and business owners in our church.

29:44 So it's not always just an illness that you need. It sometimes is a breakthrough with a job. Sometimes, honestly, we've seen so many prodigal kids come back, so many parents who thought their kids were gone. We've seen I'm going to go ahead and say it, we've seen parents these children were really struggling with their sexual identity, not knowing who they were, and we began to pray and fast over that these children would understand their identity, who they were created to be in the womb, who God called them to be in the womb. And so we've seen so many young kids come into their identity over and over and over, miracle story, through fasting and prayer. Tammy, think about it. You just touched on something that has impacted our culture so dramatically. Could you imagine if the churches came together with that mindset and understanding, we would crush this evil spirit that has been given place right right absolutely well to your point, the church needs to rally. You know, I've said this on your show before, and we are not in competition with any other church I don't pass a church and go wow, wonder how many people attend there? And the Holy Spirit led me many years ago.

31:00 Every time I go buy a church, I lift my hand over that church and I say, if that is a Bible believing evangelical church, that it is sharing the gospel. I pray I bless it in Jesus' name. Because we can't be competition with one another. We must come together. We must unify. Now. Of course, that's what revival is when he revives the Saints, when he wakes us up and he unifies us and he brings us together. But we have this competitive spirit today and we have to break that off. We have to really pray. And you mentioned when you introduced me that I'm a prayer warrior, one thing I do every single day. Right before I jumped on this show, I was out on my prayer walk and I literally pray when I pass churches and homes and God, just wake up and bring revival to your church. Wake up and bring revival to these homes.

31:45 Wake your children up. That's what we've got to see to see this corporate revival in our country, in our nation. Exactly, Tammy hots and Pillar is with us. We're talking about our new book, Fasting for a Change, a twenty one day journey of discovering who God created you to be. The book when is the official release of the book, Tammy actually just comes out you can get on Amazon now. Was released this week. I believe we actually, we actually will have our fast starting corporately on January twenty first, so everyone can join me. And again my website right there. My name just Tammyhtsonpillar dot com. And as you know, Bill, I do morning coaching videos. So for twenty one days, I will be your personal life coach, free of charge and just to hold you accountable to these twenty one days of fasting. So we're going to be fasting for things like loyalty. We're going to talk about determination, We're going to be talking about commitment. We're going to be twenty one days of just really things. God is late on my heart that we personally need change in our life. And then, as I've mentioned to everyone, we all have our own personal things we know we need change maybe in our homes and our families and our children, in our finances. So we're going to really be fasting for breakthrough and for change in our life. Can you unwrap that a little bit more?

33:07 And maybe let's just talk about the first two days. What can we expect in the first two days of the twenty one day journey. Well, the first day we're going to be talking together. We're going to talk about fasting for confidence. And I love this one because I started in Genesis and this is we've alluded to this, So this is great. Bill. I talk about how God made us in his image with confidence. Do you know that Adam and Eve were confident in the garden of Eden. They had all confidence in everything because God had given them everything. And it wasn't until the enemy came and lied to them and said he showed them a tree that God did not want them to go to. And let's talk about this. Why would God try to keep them from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

33:51 Because He did not want them to ever have to deal with good and evil. He didn't want them to have to choose good from evil. He wanted them to live in confidence and abundance and victory. But he gave them, like he does every one of us, a free will. And once they chose from that tree, all confidence broke down and Satan came and he began to lie to them. Did God really say? And so he will try to break down your confidence. That's where he starts. But we again, like we said, are made in the image of God. So day one is fasting for confidence, the confidence that God wants you to know who you are as a child of God. So I'll walk you through that day, give you some coaching tools, some steps. I will have some journal entries, some discussion questions. So for that day we start with fasting for confidence. Yeah, I like that who you are and who you are right absolutely men. And then what I do Bill is I take a biblical character with every one of these and the twenty one days, So it'll be Adam and Eve in the first day, and then day two is determination fasting for determination, and I talk about Nemi yuh. So literally for twenty one days we'll have a topic and then I give you a biblical character who gives us a great example of patients would be job, the job of patients of job.

35:10 But for twenty one days we're literally going to walk through characteristics so that we literally in our spirit can grow and be who God called us to be. So what do you say tom to you know, people who have never fasted before. You know, they're listening to they're watching this thing and say, wow, this really makes sense. I'm going to really purpose in my heart. This is going to be, you know, more than a New Year's resolution. This is going to be a gift, because this really is a gift, isn't it. Yeah, well, you know what, It's a choice because it's a spiritual discipline. And I like to tell people it's an offering that you're bringing to God. You know, we bring him an offering of our prayer, we bring him an offering of our resources, but did you know you can bring him an offering of your fast. And so literally what you're doing is you're saying to him, Father, I'm giving you this break time, this afternoon time I'm bringing I'm giving you my food, and I'm offering that to you in exchange for my faith. I'm offering this fast because I'm asking you to do something. I'm asking you to grow me up, mature me, answer my request, meet me spiritually. And when I talk about this change, of course, as I mentioned, I really thought about our country when I wrote the book. But because I deal with so many people in the church, and I coach so many people, I realize we all need to change. Bill. That's the truth exactly. We all have areas of weakness and immaturity, areas we justified bad behavior, every one of us. Because we're human. We have those elements in our life.

36:42 So if we'll get serious with God, and again, I want your audience to understand that fasting is biblical and it's taught and literally it's expected. Let me just make reference. Do you remember when the disciples of John the Baptist came and they said to Jesus, how come your disciples aren't fasting like we are? And Jesus said, there is a time to fast, but right now the bridegroom is here. You don't ever fast during a wedding. Right in a wedding, we're celebrating, we're having a great time enjoing the food. But when the wedding is over, you will fast again. And Jesus was saying, here, I am the bridegroom, so you're not going to fast while I'm here, but there will be a time again when you fast when I'm gone. So there's times over and over that Jesus is saying, you're supposed to fast, and look who wants to fast. We all want to eat, We all enjoy food. We live in a day and age where food is everything. So it literally is a sacrifice. It's an offering. It's giving something to God to teach you something about God. You know, you mentioned faith him and I was last week studying in the Book of Hebrews. In the fifth chapter, the final verse about it was, you know, I felt like the Apostle was wanting to Rabbits by the shoulders and say, grow up, you need to mature because where we are right now and looking at the condition of our society today, we have you know, getting back to what happened in the garden, is that we're not discerning

38:14 good from evil very well. I mean, look at what's happening right now with Israel. The situation's happening here in the streets of America. People are not discerning the difference between good and evil. And I saw this kind of this going hand in hand and what we're talking about today in terms of fasting, this is a movement of maturity where we will mature by faith in our walk with God so that we would be better at discerning good and evil, because we're told in the last days that we will not be very good at discerning good from evil, that that which is called evil will be called good, that which is good will be called evil. And we're seeing that represented and that demonstrated in the and now are we not absolutely well? We know one of the things the Word tells us in the last days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of evil.

39:10 And the Bible also tells us well in those days when they call evil good and good evil. And so we see that, and to your point, it is on us to spiritually mature. Yes, no one can food feed me. I mean, I am under the greatest teacher. On Sunday mornings, my husband shout out he is the greatest teacher of doctrine and the Word of God. But I have to listen. I have to have ears to listen, and then I have to put into practice. I have to get up in the morning and have my prayer time. I have to have my reading of the Word. You know, I this week went through a little setback personally, just kind of sharing with your audience, and was taken by surprise and something that happened that that hurt me deeply, and just it was something that happened in our family and one of my grandchildren just a will set back with one of them, and I just had and to pray, and I had to be able to pray for supernatural healing in that little baby's life.

40:04 And I was like, God, where are you? God, where are you? And I'm struggling right now, where are you? And it's interesting, Bill, in full disclosure, it doesn't matter how close you are to God. We're all going to go through periods where we're like, God, where are you? But I will tell you in the midst of this week, getting back deep into the Word of God, praying and fasting and going on my walks with God. There is no one else to turn to but God. And that's what spiritual growth is all about. If I didn't have a foundation in my faith, if I didn't have a deep root system, I could have been one who would depart from the faith. And that's what we're seeing Christians departing from the faith because they don't have a deep root system. So let me say to you, who ever listening right now, no one can do it for you. You have to discipline yourself. You have to read the word, you have to pray, you have to relationship with God. You've got to talk to him, you have to fast, have to do these things because have you ever looked at someone that has a beautiful relationship with God and say I wish I had that? Well, it didn't just come. They developed it through maturity, through desire, through discipline.

41:15 It's on all of us to do that well, you know, and you read stories of people that you would consider you know, holy and saints, you know, by human measure. I think of Mother Teresa for example, and she went through a dark spell in her life where you know, she felt like okay, but it was faith that carried her through because, like you said, when it comes down to it, who are you going to believe? Who were you going to hang on to? You know, I think in my journey many times, you know, I have friends say how you doing. I say, I'm hanging on to the edge of Jesus garment. There you go, He's dragged me, you know, yeah, And I'm okay. I mean I'm okay with that, and I'm okay with being that vulnerable and honest about it, because that was a big turn for me in my prayer life, Timmy, when I realized that I could be honest with God because I'd gone through a season where I went through the refiner's fire and it was painful, and it got to a point, Tommy, for about six months, I couldn't pray the Lord's prayer, and that's my favorite prayer. And when I would get to that point of you know, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, I had to tell Gods to God, I've had enough of your kingdom right now? Yeah, can I you know, I'll be honest with you and I and I thought for sure there was going to be a bolt of lightning and I was just going to be, you know, just a bit of call on the road or something, you know. But at that moment, I felt my prayer life and my relationship with God went through a new dimension because I could be honest and

42:52 say this is what this this sucks? You know, yeah, well, you know I love it. The scripture that says the goodness of the Lord compels us. And even in the midst of as I just shared something that happened, I'm like, God, where are you? And all of this His love surrounds us and so for those of you who might be bitter right now or broken or angry at questioning God, he can handle it, first of all. But don't stop talking to him, because the more you pursue him in conversation. And sometimes I like to say this, I've say in a lot of my coaching videos. We have to be still and know that he's God, because he wants to minister to us, and he will at times just whisper. He wants to whisper. And so for me, I I get up in the morning, I'm like, God, this one hurts.

43:38 Where are you? I need you? If I will be still, the goodness of the Lord compels me. And you know there's nowhere else to go. You can turn away from God, but you'll find yourself turning right back to Him because there is no one else to go to. And again, I believe that my fasting has sharpened me. It's taught me how to literally hear him, to see him, to believe him. Now, I'm one of those believers who believe in the evidence, and I believe the evidence is seen. Sometimes I have to just see the sunrise and the sunset to see the goodness of the Word. But I call on that, I call on the scripture. I believe it. I don't you know. I might have a moment of doubt. I'll be honest with you at times, but it doesn't stay. I don't stay there because God is a good God, and a lot of times if I do, go through the refiner's fires, because you know, there's so much gold in me. There's so much gold in me, said Tammy, there's so much in you. Yeah, I got to get the dross off and it doesn't feel good. And I'm saying to someone who's listening right now, Yeah, they're saying, yeah, Tammy, listen to you. I'm telling you just stay the course. Stay the course, my friend. I'm going to challenge you to go on this fast with me, and I'd love to hear from you. Let me just throw this out right now. You can email me at Tammy hootsonpillar dot com.

44:53 I return those emails and just tell me your story, and I will pray with you and I will put a prayer requestion on wall for you. But, my friend, surround yourself with believers. Surround yourself with people to hold you accountable. Put people when you can't hear God's voice. Put people in your life that will recite it to you. Open up the word of God and just pray it over yourself. Pray it over yourself. So don't forget. Pray fast, go with God. Read the word of God. God is there for you. Amen. You know tell me. We were just talking with doctor Roley Washington and his new book is called his title one Word, Okay, how to heal you know, from hurts and you know, conflicts in relationship, in relationships and that he said, the one word is relationship. You know. To your point is that we need to fortify ourselves.

45:47 You know, first of all, we need to be in relationship with God. We need to have that vertical relationship because you can't give what you don't what you don't have. You know, it's God that dispenses his grace, his mercy, his life through us and out of that outpouring. And it isn't outpouring, it's not that we hold on to it. It just flows through us. And what flows through us is what builds that that horizontal relationship with people. And it's so important because we need each other. Right amen. Amen, Well, you know that's a good word. Of course, we know that's a beautiful picture of the cross. It's our relationship with Christ and then a relationship with mankind. And we can't have a relationship with mankind if we don't have a relationship with Christ, not a healthy one at least, And so that is a beautiful, beautiful picture. But again I want to just encourage your audience just to stop and ask you know, to your point what you talked about a relationship. I mean, my relationship with God is first and foremost, and I've had to develop that over the years.

46:47 And I have a great relationship with my husband. I have a great relationship with my children and my grandchildren. I've got great girlfriends, but none of that can compare to the relationship that I have with Christ. And if you fear him, or you're angry at him, or you doubt him, again, be truthful enough to at least call out to him and try to build that relationship. How do you build a relationship with a spouse. You talk to them, you do things with them, you interact with them, you don't avoid them. Well, you can't avoid God. You have to pursue God, and when that happens, you'll definitely build a relationship with him. Well, Tamman. We got about two minutes left here, and again I want you to remind everybody again the book Fasting for Change, twenty one day journey of discovering who God created you to be. When it will begin, you will be joining us because like I said, count me in.

47:40 I'm in one hundred percent. So we will be there and you can join us on this twenty one day journey as we fast for a Change. So again, remind him how they can get their hands on the book, what's the next decision, the next step that they must make, and how they can stay in touch. Well, you see right there my name, so just check me out, really simple. Go to my website. It's my name, Tammyhotsonpillar dot com. And of course you can always follow me on social media Instagram or Facebook. We put all the posts and the videos up every day there. But I want to be your fasting coach. Go to Amazon right now you can get the book Fasting for a Change. You'll also see my other fasting books so they may trigger some interest in your mind as well. But join us. Starting January twenty first, we're going to fast for a Change. We're going to start the new year with resolutions that work.

48:32 We're going to fast together and we're really going to see breakthrough in our personal lives and our church live and our home life. But I thank you for this opportunity, and again, I'd love to have you follow me. I'm always posting great words of affirmation check out my podcast because I really want to be a life coach to you and a person of inspiration. So thanks Bill for the opportunity. I really appreciate you and look forward to your audience joining us on this fast. Tammy bless us and close us in prayer. Would you please, Father, God, we come to you corporately asking for revival. Father, we do it both in humility and in faith. Father, we know we need some course correction as a nation. We know that we need to get on our knees and we need to seek you and you alone. God. I know that we are in the midst of both a crisis, a recession, a broken nation, and so Father, we just pray that you would do what only you can do. You are a a father, You are our good, good Father. So we pray for a revival. We pray that Father, we'd be obedient where you tell us to be. And God I just pray that as people are really listening right now, that we would join together personally on this fast and the Father, we would activate our faith, that we would see you do supernatural things in our lives and in our homes. We thank you for what you're doing in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen, Tammy Hotson Pillar, You're awesome, but you know that. Thank you every day you got it. She's a dynamic author, speaker, life coach, prayer wirier you know now and leader of a

50:04 national woman's movement. Author of this new book, Fasting for a Change, a twenty one day journey of discovering who God created you to be. Our thanks to Tammy Hodson Pillar. Our thanks to you for joining us today. May God bless you and keep you. May's face shine upon you. May He be gracious unto you and give you peace. Thank you so much, God blessed. Take care,