Divided We Stand: The Globalist Scheme for a One-World Government

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for choosing W FORCY Radio. Well, good afternoon, and welcome to Bill

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Martinez and our show. Thank you
for sharing a part of your day and

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listening up to what we have to
share with you. Right now, as

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the question remains on the minds of
many Americans, like what has happened to

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our country? It's like it's slipping
through our fingers, and with such rapidity,

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right, I mean just didn't matter
of years, not even decades.

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It just seems that we're losing almost
on a daily basis, more of our

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liberties and more of the constitutional republic, which next week we're going to be

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celebrating Constitutional Day, right, a
time for us to get together and probably

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reintroduce ourselves to those tenants and the
values that started this great American idea.

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Well, the ideologically left, no
doubt, is transforming America into something other

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than what our founding fathers had intended. Remember our national motto, epluribus unum

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no longer means out of many one, but has been replaced with X multi

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out of one many. In Divided
America, it means identity. Consciousness reigns

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as we become polarized by calls for
diversity, equity, and inclusion. That

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radical, radical view is echoed by
the intimidated business world, most media,

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the corrupted educationalistablishment, especially the deep
state big government. In Divided We Stand,

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the author Bob mcginn'st the former Army
lieutenant colonel, reveals this insidious agenda

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and explores where it intends to take
America and accelerate steps to the prophetic end

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times. Bob McGinnis, welcome to
the show. Good to have you with

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us, sir, pleasure. Thanks
for having me in your book, Divided

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We Stand. The globalist scheme for
a one world government. What motivated you?

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Why did you have to write this
book? Bob Well, I felt

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that a country was spending out of
control, and as a result, Bill

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I said, Look, I've been
watching the culture for decades. I wrote

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a book. The deeper stated,
I wrote a book, give me Liberty,

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not Marxism, and I just saw
this cultural revolution coming to this country

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in a way that was trying to
transform our entire society. And having spent

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a little bit of time in Hong
Kong during the Cultural Revolution, I had

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bits and pieces of what that meant
for that country, and it was a

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radical transformation, you know, really
the killing of one hundred million people and

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the transformation of all the major institutions
under the leadership of Mauseu Tong. And

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of course the studying history, you
see that the French Revolution just turned that

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country upside down. It was a
cultural revolution, not unlike what we're seeing

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attacking the very institutions of America today. So that's a bit of background.

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I'm very concerned about the direction we're
going, and it's my prayer that we'll

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get some good leadership here and begin
to turn this around. Exactly. Well,

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it starts with we the people,
Bob. I mean, we the

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people had the government we've allowed to
you know, give rise in our country

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and to limit our liberties. Your
books that you had mentioned were quite prescient.

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I mean, you saw what was
happening on the horizon, You saw

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this coming, and you sent out
a warning. I mean you you're like

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the watchman on the wall whose duty
is to warn people, and you've warned

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us. Yeah, well, that
certainly was how I saw it, Bill,

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You know, as I saw working
in government for well over fifty years

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now, I see you know how
the administrative state and how you know,

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quite frankly, when I talk about
the deeper state, I'm talking about the

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spiritual aspects of what goes on in
Washington and how certain people are taking captive,

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not just by the Chinese or the
Russians or some of our enemies,

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you know, the spiritual components to
what goes on in Washington. And and

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you know, even before I was
in Washington, my own mother worked and

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they're working the Ford Wide House work
on Capitol Hill, and I had contacts

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throughout the city that demonstrated to me
that we were in deep trouble. We

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needed godly leadership. We needed leadership
that understood what our founders had in mind,

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and we needed the consent of the
people to direct what was going on

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in Washington, and not a bunch
of wayward, evil miscreants as I've seen

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it over the years. Bob,
you were probably one of the earliest ones

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to call out the deep state.
You knew that this bureaucratic enclave of unelected

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officials were, you know, slowly
but surely marching through progressively through the institutions,

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but particularly our government that had already
started back at the turn of the

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century with education, and they had
quite the stranglehold. So by you know,

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the mid fifties here they were able
to excuse me, they were able

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to take the Ten Commandments out of
the hallways of our educational institutions, and

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then it was just a matter of
time before they were able to fully take

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over. To the point now that
we have books that are made available to

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young kids that we never thought in
a million years would ever be possible.

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They're just absolutely disgusting in parents.
When they go to school board meetings and

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read excerpts of the books. The
parents are told not to not to read

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it out loud. Well, wait
a minute, you're exposing my kids to

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this. And yet at a board
meeting with adults and the people who have

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approved this curriculum and these books to
be in the school libraries. You don't

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want to hear what our kids are
being exposed to. What hypocrisy. Yeah,

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it is, we've gone full circle
or almost there. You know.

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We started off in this nation with
homeschooling, and you know Abraham Lincoln,

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you know, learned how to read
and write at his mother's knee. You

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know, even George Washington was taught
you know, by his parents, predominantly

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done in Fredericksburg, but he picked
up some other things on the side.

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The reality is that we transition and
as you indicated, especially with a progressive

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movement in the late eighteen hundreds,
we began to take over the education establishment.

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And then when John Dewey came in
in the thirties, he just radically

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transformed education and really put government in
charge of the rearing of children. And

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it was also in the nineteen thirties
that John Dewey, you know, got

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a pocket full of money from rich
Rockefellers, and he brought over all the

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Marxist out of the nineteen sixty eight
Frankfurt School and sent them into journalism courses

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into Hollywood and elsewhere, and they
began to pollute not only you know,

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the education establishment, but also the
journalism and media establish Yeah, exactly,

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and they just they came over and
by their own statements, these Marxists,

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interestingly, who were Jews fleeing Nazi
Germany, had every intention of destroying America,

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imploding America. It reminds me certainly
of what the Russians tried to accomplish

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themselves when Nikita Khrushchev in nineteen fifty
six, you know, pulled off a

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shoe and hit the podium at the
UN and said America is going to destroy

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itself from within. And precisely that's
what we're beginning to see with Marxisms creeping

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into education, into media, you
know, trying to establish itself firmly in

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government and then to take over through
socialistic Marxists ways our entire country. And

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we've got to push back and push
back hard. Well, Bob, we

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have to reclaim our birthright. I
mean, our citizenship of this great American

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idea is part of our birthright.
And of course it's clearly enumerated. I

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mean, you can say, in
a sense, our Constitution is our birth

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certificate, isn't it? It really
is. The Constitution was written in blood.

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Quite frankly, during the Revolutionary War, and those authors understood what was

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at stake here. They wanted to
put the consent of what was going on

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in the hands of the people and
have them direct their representatives as to how

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things should happen. And it wasn't
a mistake that we had those first ten

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Amendments, the Bill of Rights that
exactly guaranteed our liberties of speech, of

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religion, to bear arms, and
so forth. And yet we're beginning to

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see those very liberties being robbed from
us by a solitarian government that seems to

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think that they're really in charge,
and they've really flushed the whole idea of

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the consent of the people without a
doubt. We're talking with Bob McGinnis,

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author of the book Divided. We
stand the globalist scheme for a one world

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government, and you need to understand
this one world government doesn't include the United

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States of America. They want the
United States of America to be absorbed within

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this greater idea of governance. Right, Oh, there's no question about it.

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You know. It's the globalist that
would ship our job overseas, much

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like they have to the Chinese,
would use the income of this country to

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foster some of the radical views,
whether it's climate horrors or it's some other

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miscreant transsexual ideas repritrated on the population. These are things that the likes of

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the President Chief of Beijing has announced
that he has every intention of reclaiming the

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rightful place of the Middle Kingdom the
Chinese people. And of course this is

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payback for what the West did to
them in the eighteen fifties to eighteen sixties

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with the Opian War, and of
course the shipment of venting on into this

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country to kill hundreds of thousands of
Americans is part of that payback. But

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it's only part of it, because
not only do they rob us blind of

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intellectual property, they steal our weapons
systems, They buy our politicians to get

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their way. And you know,
unless we really turn back the page to

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where we came from as a nation, I don't see that we have a

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lot of hope. No, you're
you're exactly right, Bob, because you

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know you know this having been in
the military. Uh, your experience in

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life is that when things go wrong, you've got to hit the pause button

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and think, Okay, where where
did we get it wrong? Where did

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we make the wrong turn? How
do we need to course correct because that's

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what you know, prudent people do, successful people do when they're constantly evaluating

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and making adjustments based on wrong turns
along the way, because that's just natural.

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It's going to happen, right.
But if you don't course correct,

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then you're going to become victimized.
No, no, no question about it.

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Certainly the idea that government is the
answer to all our problems. You

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know, you can go back to
lb when you know we had the world

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in poverty. What did he do? He basically made, you know,

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split up many poor families and sent
off the husbands and made the mothers and

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children dependence upon government. And that
has continued through many, many decades,

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and it's really destroying the American family, which has always been kind of the

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building block of a great nation.
You know, every founder of nations across

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the world understand that you need a
mother, a father, and children to

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work together to pay the taxes,
to become educated, to get jobs,

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and so forth. And yet you
know that very building block of society was

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something that our big government is trying
to destroy. Well, they absolutely did.

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I mean, look at all.
I was talking to Bob Woodson last

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year about this very fact Bob that
uh, you know Woodson of course from

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the Woodson Center. And you know, I said, Bob, look at

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we've spent I don't know, twenty
five maybe even thirty trillion dollars in the

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war in poverty since nineteen sixty four. We've hardly moved the needle for all

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that money that we've invested, I
said, I said, what where did

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the money go? And it was
all to buy votes? And because that

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was Lyndon Mainz Johnson, that's what
he told the Southern Democrats said they look

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at you know, if we give
them this money, we're going to have

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he referred to them in the N
word. He says, we'll have them

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voting Democrat for the next hundred years. Yeah. Yeah. The Democratic Party,

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of course, eighteen sixty eight formed
the KKK and hasn't been, you

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know, very apologetic about such a
tragedy on this nation after the Civil War

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that cost us six hundred and thirty
thousand American lives about two percent at the

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time. You know, the destruction
of the family, the destruction of the

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marriage, and the watering down of
the important in the importance of marriage,

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and also the you know, the
value we place on life for life,

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you know, and yet you know, forty percent of African American children die

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in the womb because of these bankrupt
policies. Now, I know people are

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going to disagree on abortion policy,
but forty percent of an entire race in

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a country is destroyed in the womb, that seems to be not only a

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tragedy, that's that's genocide. As
far as I'm concerned, it was planned,

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that's the way, Margaret Sanger,
the eugenicist. They planned it out

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that way, they got the net
result. And it's beyond me that minorities

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will continue to support a party that
continues to target their children in the womb.

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I mean, the other day,
Kamala Harris, the vice president,

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you know, was kind of upset
that people were saying the Democratic Party was

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the party of a that she felt
that that wasn't true. And the question

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was asked, well when do you
say that? You know, what is

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the date? Is it fifteen weeks, is it twenty five weeks, thirty

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weeks? She refused to answer,
uh, you know, because we know

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what the Democratic Party stands for.
It doesn't stand for life, and especially

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when it comes to minorities, yeah, yeah, I know our governor,

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our former governor here in Virginia.
You know, he famously said, even

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after the birth of the baby,
mother in the physician can sit down there

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and discuss whether or not to keep
it alive. Yeah, we're gonna We're

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gonna give a comfort care. Remember
remember he said comfort care. These people

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are so radical. You know that
Margaret Singer was progressive, just like John

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Dewey, just like others that are
ruined the very institutions that our founders had

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every intention of preserving, and they
violate our civil liberties. They want us

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to go in direction that are just
contrary to certainly what the God that I

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worship exactly let's go. But that's
that's not surprising. They are doing and

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using government in such a way to
day that it's destroying and not only those

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freedoms, but it's it's putting in
place a very frightening type of governance that

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is almost like what we see in
places like the Republic of China, see

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it in the former totalitarian Russia.
That's becoming more like that every day.

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And we don't need that, nor
do we want that. But yet,

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you know, government is overbearing.
Government is trying to take over, you

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know, the civil liberties and the
independence that we once enjoyed as as Americans.

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Well, life is so foundational to
the ethos of this great American idea.

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If you abuse and disrespect that,
then there is a price to be

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paid. I've maintained, Bob,
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v. Wade. And we can
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Trump for this, and that is
for him steating three Supreme Court justices that

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voted for life and turned back Roe
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Uh, you know, from the
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be a government issue. Remember they
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going to use tax fair money to
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lie. They've been doing that.
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Party to pick up the argument,
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the States. To me, this
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and the husband or the father and
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that's between them. I don't I
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I'm I'm sorry that they're they're contemplating
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But today Thank God for all these
other centers, these pregnancy centers that are

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about bob and offering alternatives, you
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you know, we've got we've got
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wanting to adopt children. And uh, and people are disrespecting life so pal

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mall and uh and so callous and
matter of fact that you know, a

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society cannot continue with this type of
disrespect on its children. Yeah, if

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you destroy your next generation, how
are you going to preserve the country that

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you have. The destruction of the
family, The manipulation of children by government,

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the manipulation of what we is right
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by our mass media. All of
these, you know, plus the attack

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on the freedom of worship and you
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COVID nineteen. But allowing strip clubs
and bars to continue to operate just doesn't

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make any sense. I know,
our founders would vigorously have objected had somebody

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even attempted to argue that that was
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you know, it's the left,
the leftists and these neo Marxists that

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are pushing these agendas that are so
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Yeah, I think our founding fathers
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thing that God said to Israel,
who told you to do such a thing.

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I would never imagine to ever ask
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hot fires of bell and Molich.
I mean, you know, and this

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is this is where we are.
But as we continue, as you say

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in your book Divided, we stand
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Bob, you know, forget about
our idea of humanity and liberty U at

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that point, you know, under
the globalist scheme, we're we're chatteled.

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You know, we're meaningless, aren't
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and they could care less, uh, you know, like the they're trying

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to force the Dutch to eat bugs
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And they're trying to rob us of
the electronic devices that that keep us

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alive, air conditioners and you know, and other apparati that we have in

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our homes in the name of climate
change. These things are totally unacceptable,

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but you know it's being allowed,
unfortunately, I think, to a certain

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degree, even by both parties.
You know, our founders, especially James

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Madison was opposed to having just two
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eventually they'll both be corrupted. I'm
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a lot more pluralism than we currently
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an option that I certainly explore and
divided we stand because I think pluralism is

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helpful. I've seen it, you
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Europe. You know, they didn't
do it perfectly, but they The trend

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that we see in this country isn't
all that favorable. But you mentioned,

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you know, the kind of the
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exactly, the World Economic Forum and
the people that you know gather annually in

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Switzerland to consider our future. They
see themselves as godlike people, you know,

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like George Soros calls themself God.
And they see that they're going to

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stipulate what the world is going to
become. They can fly off on their

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jets and they can eat whatever they
want and live in these giant houses like

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you know, a former vice president
that comes to mind, Vice President Gore,

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you know, as houses there in
California, as houses in Tennessee and

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in Virginia and elsewhere. But you
know, these people are such hypocrites that

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you know, they don't even appreciate
how they look to the rest of America,

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much less to the world. But
you know, globalism is what they

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have in mind. They want us
to be obedience. They want us to

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take the shots they tell us we
have to take, to eat what we

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have to eat, live where they
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to educate us and our children to
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And I don't want that, and
I don't think our founders want it,

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and I don't believe most Americans want
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that we are divided almost in half. And we haven't seen such divisions since

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the American Civil War. And you
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you know, right before we went
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there in Charleston Bay that Lincoln called
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We were divided about, of course, at that point, slavery. But

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today we're divided about ideology, about
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this country. And unfortunately, much
of the left, the leftists especially who

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are albeit Marxists and certainly socialistism.
I don't want to drag this country in

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a way that you know, our
founders never had envisioned. And certainly I

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don't think those of us on the
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Weight we want to return to the
good old days. If if that were

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possible, to recover what Trump's freedom, Bob, I mean, think about

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that. Once you've had a taste
of freedom, why would you want to

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give that up? I mean,
we've got we've got billions of people wanting

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to come into this country for this
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a hill. I have faith.
I mean, it's it's easy to get

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discouraged, and I get that,
uh, you know, with what's happening

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in our country, because people are
ignorant of our constitution, they're ignorant of

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our liberty. But I still believe
that experience defines preference, and like defying

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the law of gravity, you can
continue to do that and you find out

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that it hurts, it's very painful, and maybe the next time, eventually

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you'll make better decisions. And here
we are. We've had an entitled generation

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that has been indoctrinated by these progressives
that are leading him down the yellow brick

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road to nowhere and imprisonment because they
will be as Claus Schwab is famous for

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saying, by the year twenty thirty
is his vision that you will own nothing

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and you will like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's partly the

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brainwashing that we saw during the Chinese
Cultural Revolution the Red Guard ran around.

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our purposes, the right pronouns,
and salute the right people, then you

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either ended up in jail, uh
some concentration camp or something worse. One

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hundred million arguably dine. You know
the fact that you know, we have

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the left that is allowing crime to
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We have an open border that is
just bleeding all sorts of people that

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you know, seek the American life. But at the same time, you

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know, they're robbing from those of
us that are here, you know,

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the life that we're slowly losing as
a direct result of this infiltration through the

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southern border. And then of course
these leftist policies that overspending, destroying the

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dollar, not taking advantage of our
natural resources, the carbon that is below

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our surface that can fuel our economy. You know, they have such bizarre

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ideas that are undermining the very prosperity
in the very direction that our forefathers and

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most of us, certainly on the
right, have a vision for this country.

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Bob, How can they in any
kind of conscience not see that they're

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hurting everyday Americans right now. I
mean, you've got at least fifty percent

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of the country in dire straits.
They're hurting severely, and the number one

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reason is because of the policies that
have been enacted by this president. I

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mean, to take away our energy
independence, to double the price of our

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gasoline, and look what he's done
with, you know, bibonomics and inflation

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at every turn, and then he
wants to tell us that it's working.

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Yeah, I don't know for who. I don't either, you know,

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I just don't see that it's rational. And perhaps that's part of the purpose.

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Those that are really pulling the strings
of the puppet, mister Biden in

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this case, who can't really seem
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Those people are are doing the bidding
and telling him what to say on

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the cards that they give him when
he stands before the press. So you

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know, we have Bidenomics which is
destroying the dollar, bidonomics that is really

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bringing hunger to a large section of
this country, making housing unaffordable for many

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people. And then of course at
the gas tank, all of us are

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reminded every time we go there on
exactly basis how hard this is and it's

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absolutely preventable, unnecessary, and yet
they're pushing this climate agenda that is not

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based on true science, but it's
based on radicalism. And that radicalism,

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much like all the things they've pushed
over the years, is going in a

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direction that is not face very the
best interests of this country. They need

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to be held accountable, Bob,
because they've they've spent over five trillion dollars

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of the people's money on this boondoggle. I mean, this is like don

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Quixote fighting windmills. In my humble
opinion, Uh, you know, there's

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no there's no science. I mean
you've got uh, you know, noted

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scientists what and two Nobel Price scientists
as well that are part of this latest

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signing on of saying there's no such
things as climate change as being presented by

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these radicals. Yeah, well,
yeah, Unfortunately, they've captured such a

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large swath of the left that they're
they're beating the drums in the direction that

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they want them to go. And
so, you know, whoever you believe,

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The Wall Street Journal says we're about
nine of the people agree we're going

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in the wrong direction, divided,
and then we're on the wrong track.

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Interestingly, almost seventy five percent say
that. You know, the guy in

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the White House is too old to
serve anymore. He doesn't seem to have

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the energy, much less the mental
stamina and agility to do the sophisticated job

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that we require for president going forward. So all of these issues, you

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know, just resonate. I think, you know, when people start to

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get serious about the direction and whether
or not they're better off today than they

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were three four years ago, I
think, you know, even those that

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are truly trying to be objective can't
come to any other conclusion that these people

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have sunk us into such a hole
that we're not sure how we're going to

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get out. Well, and that's
the thing, I mean, we've got

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two more years of this kind of
ridiculous lack of leadership. I guess I

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mean, you can fill in any
adjective you want. It's not good.

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No, it's not. And we're
certainly hopeful that the Republican Congress, though

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it's a slim majority, can you
know, at least create enough obstacles in

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the way of this administration to prevent
more of this radicalism from you know,

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maturing. But what I'm concerned about, Bill, is that our enemies have

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been watching us so intense and as
a direct result of major missteps, whether

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in Afghanistan or in our southern border, or the economic decisions by this administration

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and at that time by the Democratic
Congress, that we end up in a

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in a dire situation that invites aggression. I believe directly that Vladimir Putin never

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would have attacked in the Ukraine had
we had a different administration and not had

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the debacle in Afghanistan which demonstrated our
weakness. I believe the Chinese are testing

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us left and right today and are
licking their chops at the potential of taking

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over much of who we are,
either directly or indirectly. So these are

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dire situations, and yet you know, this administration seems to be you know,

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totally a wall when it comes to
understanding the ways of this world and

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the direction that we ought to go
and not this corrupted direction that we're currently

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on. Well, as a former
Army lieutenant colonel, you know this,

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Bob, You know that that strength
needs to be projected. And if you

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project weakness, then you've got Russia
taking over Crimea. You get Russia,

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you know, invading Ukraine. You
get China, you know, taking over

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and militarizing the South China seas U
Kim John un is firing missiles, He's

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he's testing missiles with a with a
nuclear warhead. Potentially that was very successful

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a couple of days ago. I
mean at every turn. Look at Iran,

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I mean, you know, Barack
Obama insisted, you know, after

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sending palettes of unmarked money, uh, you know, to Iran that they

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would never go nuclear. Well we
knew that was a lie from the get

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go. And here they are at
any moment, and and Israel cannot stand

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for that, Bob, And they're
going to have to do something of a

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unilateral nature to make sure that Iran
does not go nuclear. And so then

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what happens to uh, what happens
to the stability or the lack of stability

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in the Middle East at that point. Yeah, yeah, they certainly with

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the Chinese being nice to the Saudis
and the Saudis having been stiff armed by

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the Biden people, you know,
that makes the Middle East with an Iran

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that is likely to become nuclear.
Certainly there are only steps away from that.

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We know how much enriched uranium they
likely have, and that they've had

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the plans from the Packs and from
the Chinese for some good long time.

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So when you put all that together, you know, I can understand the

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residents say. The real concern that
Benjamin Netanyah, who has expressed time and

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again with plenty of evidence that the
Iranians are going in a direction that is

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not healthy for the region, much
less for the world. Same thing with

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Kim Jongan, who, of course
here recently has agreed to likely sell munitions

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that the Russians can't seem to produce
in sufficient quantities to sustain the war.

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In Ukraine, one artillery rounds some
anti tank munitions. So when you put

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these things together and you see that, you know, we're being attack left

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and right through their cyber armies,
which are very effective, those in Russia,

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those in China, and North Korea
and elsewhere. And when you consider

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that, you know they're going out
after you know, not only our money,

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but they're also going after to influence
the voting in this country through a

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variety of mechanisms, some of which
are cyber, some of which are direct

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interference their proxies. These are these
are issues of grave concern, and I

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would hope that, you know,
the American public, left and right,

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would recognize that this great nation that
we have, it's salvageable if we only

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begin to wake up to the reality
as to what these people are doing and

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party neutral here, let's let's think
of the best interests of America. And

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I would hope that we begin to
see that in crystal clear. Well,

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well, I would agree with you, even if we were to move more,

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as you suggested, uh into pluralism. Uh. You know. John

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Naismith in his book Megatrends, I
know, some twenty five plus years ago,

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said that the two party system was
like two dinosaurs mating on. Never

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forget that. And I keep thinking, Okay, when the when is the

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end of this two party system,
because in a sense, it's kind of

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morphed into a uniparty, so to
speak. But we need, we needed

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a divergence of view, but at
the end of the day, we need

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to come together united on what we're
trying to accomplish here. Maybe from different

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directions, that's okay, but I
think we need to agree on the principal

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issue of what being an American is
all about. Is that fair to say?

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No, I think that's fair to
say. You know, I mentioned

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James Madison when he was in the
White House Dolly. Madison was very effective

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at, you know, bringing people
from both of the major political parties into

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the White House, and the comment
was that no one knew who a party

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affiliation was the other because that wasn't
the thing that they tried to accomplish.

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They wanted people to talk. They
wanted people to try to get civil and

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get along on not like Aaron Burr
and y and h. Hamilton. Hamilton

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truly matched eighteen o four and Hamilton
bit the dusk. That's not how to

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settle differences. We need to settle
our differences by you know, learning how

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to make rational arguments without getting heated. You know, that's one of the

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things that Madison said, rhetoric.
We don't teach that in school anymore,

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you know, you shouldn't have to
get red in the face in order to

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make your point. Uh, And
certainly you don't need to shoot your your

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your bull. But you know,
back in what was it eighteen fifty seven,

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I think it was that a Sumner, a senator out of Massachusetts,

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was making a speech against slavery in
the Senate floor and he attacked a verbally

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a Southern senator from South Carolina.
And the very next day, the nephew

439
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of that Southern senator came over to
the Senate chamber and beat almost to death

440
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with a cane Sumner. And that
was that the atmosphere in which our Congress

441
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was in in eighteen fifty eight.
No, no wonder. You know,

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two years later we couldn't decide,
you know, on a Democratic candidate for

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both the North and the South,
much less a Republican, and so we

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had these split ballots, and you
know, Lincoln walks into the White House

445
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what on thirty six percent of the
total Northern vote. So, you know,

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things just don't make sense. We
don't need that in this country.

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What we need to do is find
out how to be civil. We need

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to think about the best interest and
the preservation of civil liberties, and we

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need to get our economy going in
a right direction and allow people to take

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care of themselves, their families and
educate their children in ways that they want

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to well. As you point out
what happened in eighteen fifty seven, Bob,

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you know that should have been a
clear indicator that we were letting loose

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of our moral anchorings. Morality holds
this to a certain discipline and level of

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civility. You cast off morality,
all goes you know, everything goes right.

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It certainly does. And unfortunately,
I think if this goes back to

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the influence of the church within this
American population, and we've seen a rather

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precipitous dick kine and not only affiliation
with a faith community, but also participation

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in that faith community. You may
say you're quote a Christian, but you

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may never go to church. So
it's it's it's more of an ethnic association

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of sorts of affiliation exactly. So
you know, where do you get your

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morals? Are you getting your morals
from watching TV? Are you getting your

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morals from you know, some local
hangout place, or you're getting your morals

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from your family that is invested in
your local church or synagogue or whatever,

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so that you have some moticum of
direction that's outside of yourself, that says

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what's right and wrong and certainly what's
in the best interests of my family,

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my community, and my nation.
Well, Bob, you bring up a

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great point here, and that is
that there's a call to America. You

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know, in much as you've done
and what you've written about is being that

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watchman on the wall, is that
America needs a renewal. We need a

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revival to where we turn our hearts
away from our own selfishness and turn it

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towards God and ask for God to
forgive us. I mean clearly in Second

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Chronicles seven fourteen, God gives us
the specifics, and it starts with people

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who are called by His name.
As you mentioned, people may say they're

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a Christian, but are you called
by his name? And if you are

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called by His name, and you've
had enough at the silliness that's happening in

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our country, and you can look
and see the forecast and the trajectory that

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this country is on, and what
kind of America we're turning over to our

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our kids and our grandkids. And
if that doesn't disturb you enough to turn

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from your wicked ways, than Heaven
help us. Yeah, absolutely, Bill.

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You know, we we look around
and we see, you know,

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people taking over our schools and trying
to teach our children, you know,

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that they can be girls can be
boys, and boys can be girls.

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The whole idea of ontology is thrown
out the window. Yeah, they try

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to teach things that, you know, like the parents that go to school

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boards and read out of books that
are taken from the local library, and

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the and the school boards just object
to hearing that trash. And yet that's

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what they've allowed in our schools.
Even the you know, the stuff on

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our media, our television. You
know, it's it used to be leave

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it to beaver and father knows best
us, but today it's I mean,

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it's just rants. Its stuff that
is value programming, and our children in

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ways that you know, we could
only have had nightmares about years ago.

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So we find that the culture is
diminished us as people. It's it's kind

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of seared our conscience to a large
degree. So we act in ways unfortunately

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that it's more accepting to what the
leftists are pushing rather than what our founders

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would have pushed when they were alive. You know, two hundred and fifty

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years ago. So these are these
are issues of brave consequence. I would

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it's certainly my prayer that you know, people of faith would not be uh,

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would not faig, They would be
outspoken about what is right and what's

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wrong. They won't you know,
cave to the abuse of the left and

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certainly become instruments as some on the
left are arguably of proxies of Satan and

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his demonic armies or those that have
been recruited in ways that represent the evil

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that he perpetrates. So I believe
that it's a very real dimension here.

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And that's why when I wrote about
deeper State and talked about the spiritual issues,

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and today when I talk about Divided, we stand. You know,

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I have a couple of chapters and
they're talking about, you know, how

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how Satan enticed Jesus himself and then
of course to Jesus, you know,

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said away with you this is he
didn't want the world, He didn't want

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all the treasures. He wanted obedience
to God. And yet you know,

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of course that's exactly what Satan doesn't
want. He wanted obedience to him.

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And we find that it played out
today and in the world in which we

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live, where you know, so
much of the evil perpetrators out there that

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are behind some of these radical policies
are pushing an agenda that is increased,

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probably evil and not in our overall
best interests. Well without a doubt,

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and as you recall in that moment
there, uh, you know, when

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Jesus was being tempted, he demonstrated
to us what the sword of the Spirit

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looks like. It was the word
of God that he used against Satan,

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and what could Satan do? You
know? He tried two other times,

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the total of three times to entice
Christ. But each time Jesus responded with

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you know, the sword, the
sword of the Spirit, which is very

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effective. And so it's a clear
definition of what is available to us,

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as you say, because you know, darkness is coming over the land and

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there's lightbearers. As people of faith, we are the ones that can you

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know, bring the light of God
to the dark corners of the world,

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can we not? Absolutely? You
know, I've said many times that because

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of my background in Washington, I
think I may have mentioned to you that

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the darkness of Washington. Unless you're
a deep insider, you don't appreciate.

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You know that evil is attracted to
power, right. Washington, of course,

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is known for power. Years ago. My own mother was the personal

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assistant to Jane Dixon, which was
the psychic that had great access into the

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White House and you know, worked
with many of the first ladies and senior

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officials in government for years. So
if our senior government people were tethered to

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psychics and trying to have these extra
outside of their body experiences and so forth,

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and that's what they were doing.
That occultic sort of direction, I

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think is something that is very present
in Washington. And I used to I've

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come across in my years in Washington
a lot of people that self identify a

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switches and and I've called that out
and some of the media, of course

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they get you know, thoroughly castigated, ridiculed for that, but you know,

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they were the ones that told me
about it. And so when I

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describe Washington, I say, there's
there's like a dark cloud that seems to

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pervade over the entire you know,
assembly of government officials. And so when

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you have to understand that it's not
just the administrative state that's doing the beckoning

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of some of the leftists. But
it's also the evilness that is, it's

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well established itself in Washington. As
a direct result, we have, you

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00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.119
know, some very bad policy,
some very bad leadership, and yet it

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just has sunk its teeth to keep
a tight rein over that power, because

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you know, Satan has no intention
of relinquishing power. And yet godly people

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not only should be praying, but
that they should be bold in declaring the

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truth of Christ in a fallen world. And that's what we are. We're

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here until God calls us home,
and until that time, let's be persistent

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in being light on the hill,
being salt to in some cases wounds that

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need healing. Exactly Well, as
you say, Bobbin, as we know

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the way we're designed, we're going
to worship something, and either we're going

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to worship the legitimate or the counterfeit. And what you have shared with us

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is consistent with others have shared who
have been there in the belly of the

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beast, is that there is darkness
there in these institutions. Well, how

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can we expect any kind of righteousness
to come out of darkness? Well it

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is hard, but yeah, persist, and of course, to a certain

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degree, those that are light are
going to be attacked? You know,

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I think of you know, when
I was at the Family Research Council years

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ago, we were constantly under attack. And in fact, the Southern Southern

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Poverty Law Center inspired someone number of
years ago exactly shoot up a weapon and

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wounded a friend of mine who was
the security guard at the front desk.

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So these issues have grave consequences,
and it's not just the policy, but

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it's how they treat people and who
really is in charge, you know,

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I think of the situation. I
a good friend of mine, Charlie Cooper.

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He was a lieutenant general, but
when he was a very young officer,

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he was the the aid to the
Chief Naval Operations back in nineteen sixty

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five, I think it was,
and Charlie escorted the Chief and the other

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chiefs of the services in to meet
with LBJ. Lyndon Baines Johnson, the

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President, and they were trying to
tell the President we need to get out

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of Vietnam. And at the time
we had less than a hundred thousand soldiers

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there and LBJ. You, Charlie
went in with these four four starter flag

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officers and the President and he was
the only one there. He was holding

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the map, and they were saying, we don't need to do this anymore,

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mister president. And so what happened. LBJ and his political way of

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00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.519
looking at the World's cursed them out, kicked them out of office, and

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00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:45.199
directed Mcnamerican radically increased the number of
troops we sent over there, and so

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00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:51.719
years later, in nineteen seventy five, we finally pulled out, but it

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wasn't until we had lost fifty eight
thousand Americans and you know, well over

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one hundred thousand were wounded and arguably
almost twillion dollars spent. So you know,

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that's darkness. As far as I'm
concerned, the motivations of some politicians

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does not fit the image that many
of us want for America, much less

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does it represent the values that our
founders gave us NECAD. You know,

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without a doubt, Robert McGinnis has
been our guest, former Army lieutenant colonel,

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author of the book Divided We Stand
the Globalist scheme for a one world

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government. Robert, we've got about
a minute left here. I'm going to

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let you summarize and remind everybody how
they can get their hands on your book.

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Well, you know, Divided We
Stand is available on Amazon, Barnes

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00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:47.920
and Noble, uh, certainly any
of any place you can buy books.

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00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:53.440
It's even my publisher, Defender Publishing. And so I'd encourage people to pray

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00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:59.719
about it, you know, perhaps
go and buy a copy. See you

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know, the history of division,
it goes all the way back to Genesis

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chapter three, you know, when
you know Adam and Eve were tempted by

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the great divider, Satan himself,
and we've seen divisions played out all the

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way up to the present time.
It's the key tool of the leftist today.

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They're dividing us on race, on
gender, on money issues, on

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politics. We need to do away
with division as best as we can,

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because it's in our mutual best interests. James Madison said, we have to

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somehow find an accommodation for civility in
our culture, and I think if we

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do that then our nation can be
resurrected. Well, Bob, I think

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we've done it before, and the
fact that we've done it before gives us

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encouragement that we can do it again. So, you know, by God's

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grace and mercy, may it be
so. Bob McGinnis, thank you so

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much for being with us. I
appreciate you. Thank you, Bill,

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our thanks to Bob McGinnis for being
with us. For more information and to

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be a part of this mighty movement
to return to God and to save our

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country. Go to Bill Martini show
dot com. May God bless you and

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keep you, and make his face
shine upon you, and may He be

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gracious unto you and give you peace. Thank you so much for being with

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us. God blessed. Take care.