Aug. 25, 2025

Careful How You Treat Your Enemies For Fear Of Retribution

Careful How You Treat Your Enemies For Fear Of Retribution
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Season 2

Keith Gross, legal analyst and former Assistant State Attorney and prosecutor for the State of Florida. He’s a business owner and author of Dirt Roads to Runways. It's a crossroads of Justice and Retribution. Without consequences the misbehavior is never corrected and only gets worse and acceptable. We’re talking the latest in targeted lawfare toward you and Trump, congressional investigation into the mental health of President Joe Biden and the "Auto Pen Pardons."

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Hey glad you can joined us. Bill Martinez here and

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we are live. Keith Gross is going to be joining

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us in just a moment. And Keith is an attorney.

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Incredible background. He's been on our daily show many many times,

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and former you know politico type, He's gone through the

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drill in all. His background is quite quite incredible here.

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He's a legal analyst and former assistant state attorney and

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prosecutor for the state of Florida, and he served in

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the National Guard, a business owner and author of dirt

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roads to runways, and a potential I have to say

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potential in air quotes here a political candidate. Maybe he'll

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break some news and tell us more about that later on.

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But we're going to be talking about, you know, how

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to treat your enemies, because as the Democrats are finding out,

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and I guess they kind of understood, after all that

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they put Donald Trump through for what almost ten years.

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I mean, when you think about it, maybe you could

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even go back longer than that. You had to know

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that there was going to be some opportunity for what

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you might call retribution. I think some have noted that

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maybe on a couple occasions on the campaign trail, Trump

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had inferred as much. If he didn't outright say that,

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but why shouldn't the Democrats be nervous because had the

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terrible tables been turned, well, you got to know they'd

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be all in for retribution. And so the Democrats are

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finding out and some of this stuff is quite interesting,

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the way this retribution is playing out, because it's coming

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back on themselves. Like what was the pastor Obama's pastor

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had said about the chickens coming home to roost? And

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that's exactly what seems to be happening with the Democratic

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Party right now. But right now I want to bring

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on Keith Gross to the show. Keith welcome to the show.

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Good to have you with.

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Us, Good to be with you, Bill Well.

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Keith, don't you love retribution? I'm I mean, the Bible

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says you will reap what you sew, and the Democrats

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are finding out the hard way. Although I don't know

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that Republicans have the stomach or the audacity to do

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the kind of things to a political candidate that the

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Democrats have done to Donald Trump.

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Well, you know, I'm not even sure I would call

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it retribution. I would call it accountability. I would call

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it enforcement of the law. And when we look at

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the last four years before Donald Trump was back in

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the White House, they were targeted. Conservatives were targeted by

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the left. You had state attorneys in New York and

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that was their entire campaign, is I will get Donald Trump.

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Look at Fanny Willis and the way they indicted not

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just Donald Trump, but people in his orbit who, many

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of whom did nothing wrong, weren't even really accused of

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doing anything wrong other than supporting the president. So it's

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accountability time. They say, no one is above the law.

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And ironically enough, the Conservatives that were targeted didn't do

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anything wrong, but these folks did. The folks that are

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being targeted now, did commit serious crimes.

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Well you got Fanny Willis. You have Letitia mcevel that

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I call her of New York, who you know, said hey,

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you know, this is what I'm being elected for, which

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you know they say, well, you're not supposed to do that.

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Well she did. And the thing was surprising is why

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New Yorkers would support that. I mean, what was done

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Trump evil as a citizen in New York. I mean

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what he did in terms of you know, jobs that

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he provided, what he did for the ice skating rink,

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I mean, on and on. I mean he was a

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philanthropist on many levels. And yes, I get it. Some

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people you know have told me, Bill, you don't know.

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You know, we did business with Donald Trump and this

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thing went south and whatever, and there was bankruptcy laws

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and whatever that protected him. Well you know that's why

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bankruptcy laws are there. And I'm sorry that you got

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injured in everything, but by and large, even like this

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big case that finally got thrown out which was absurd

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from Erdawan five hundred million dollar judgment against Donald Trump,

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which was such a joke, I mean was I mean,

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you're an attorney, Keith I mean, this whole process. What

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they did to Donald Trump was a kangaroo operation.

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It was a kangaroo operation. And it wasn't just one court.

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You know this five hundred million dollars verdict that was

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the one about his pre of mar A Lago, Right,

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And it's unreasonable that the folks in the New York

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court system thought they could substitute their idea of what

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a reasonable value is for that of the market. They

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were trying to find a way to frame Donald Trump

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for any wrongdoing they could. They made up crimes. They

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did it in multiple courts. They passed a bill allowing

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that crazy lady to accuse Donald Trump of sexual misconduct

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and sue him in court, even though the statute of

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limitations had long since passed. They passed a legislative act

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specifically to target him right.

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Well, and then on top of that, Keith, they came

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and said, well, we don't find any judgment that there

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was any sexual involvement, but we're still going to level

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a judgment. What was an eighty million dollar judgment.

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For defamation because he said I didn't rape that woman. Yeah,

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what else you're supposed to do when somebody makes a

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false accusation, you say, no, I didn't. They're lying. And

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then this woman sues him saying he defamed her character,

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calling her a liar.

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Well, Monica Lewinsky might want a little bit of that

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eighty million dollars.

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Huh.

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I mean, you know, after all, there was a former

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president who said he didn't have sex with that woman.

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I don't know a blue dress as differently, But you know,

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what can you say?

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You know, it's a wild thing to see, Bill, But

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I'm glad to see that the Trump administration is not

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backing down. They are bringing accountability. There hopefully will be

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some serious prosecutions.

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There needs to be, because this is what the American

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people are looking for. I mean, the bottom line is justice, right,

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people want, people want justice, and what's done to Donald Trump,

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see people need and I get I think people are

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starting to understand what was Donald done to Donald Trump

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was done to we the people. You know, the millions

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of dollars, the lives that it cost, you know, with

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all that they did to destroy his first administration. I

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mean there's implications with COVID, even going back to Hillary Clinton,

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what happened in ben Ghazi? You got the missing emails

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and was there any association with those emails and the

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death of an ambassador to our country. I mean, there's

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just so many questions that are left unanswered, and you know,

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she was too big to jail, and I guess you

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know that's the way it worked out. Because even James Gomi,

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if you remember on that faithful night when he came

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down with all his examination and as he's going down

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through this list, I'm going, oh my god, he's going

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to indict her, and then all of a sudden he

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makes a hard left and says, no reasonable prosecutor would

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go after her. I mean, that's like it was almost

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like from the same playbook that her used to justify

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why he couldn't go after Joe Biden, right absolutely.

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I mean they basically said, look, we got the evidence,

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we saw that he committed a crime, but he's really old,

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so we're not sure a jury's going to like the

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idea of prosecuting someone who's old, and maybe he's mentally incompetent.

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Therefore we just can't prosecute him. What we've seen for

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a long time is when the Democrats are in power,

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they let this stuff slide. If it's a Democrat that

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does wrongdoing, they find some excuse not to prosecute it.

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But they took every step they could to try to

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derail President Trump's next term. They tried to lock up

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his friends, associates, attorneys, and everybody else that worked for him.

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When the Democrats have the ball, they run it downfield

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as fast as humanly possible, willing to break any rule

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necessary to get the ball downfield. And when Republicans have

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the ball for a long time in the past, they've

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moved it forward at a snail's pace, making sure to

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cross all the t's, dot all the i's. They don't

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want to hurt anybody's feelings. I'm glad Donald Trump is

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finally running the ball down the field just as fast

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as the Democrats would have they had it well.

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And the thing is, could you imagine if Donald Trump

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had everybody in the GOP in step with him? I mean,

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as it is, as you say, he runs down the field,

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and then he's got to stop, and he's got to

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put a backbone back in these guys and give him

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a spine, and then you get him back into play

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against come on, follow me, you know kind of deal.

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And he's clearly leading the way. But could you imagine

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how much better we would be if they were up

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to speed with him, because he is moving at the

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speed of light.

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Oh yeah, if we had a Congress that would actually

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pass his agenda without question, that would confirm all of

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his nominees quickly. Yes, the president could be getting a

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heck of a lot more done for the people, and

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that's what the people wanted. You saw the people show

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up at his rallies. They showed up and voted like

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never before. They made sure that that election really was

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too big to rig because we learned our lesson last time.

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Now we've actually got to get the work done. I

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think the president is doing everything he possibly could, and

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he needs a Congress to back him up.

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Well, the thing that I love in terms of accountabilities

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you said earlier, Keith, is that the contrast is quite obvious.

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You know, whether it has to do with the legacy

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media social media platforms, you know, the Democrat talking heads

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like Adam Shift and Swallwell and Nancy Pelosi, go right,

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Hakeim Jefferies, go right on down the list. I mean,

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they are so lost in the wilderness. They have really

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done this to themselves. They destroyed their brand much the

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same way that Dylan mulvaney did with bud Light, Right.

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Yeah, I mean the Democrats have latched on to the

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most far left ideas that you can imagine. Now they're

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outright backing a communist in New York City. It looked

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like they were about to have a communist in Minneapolis,

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but they've walked that back and said, turns out the

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vote was rigged. They cheated. There was a lot of

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irregularities in the machines and the ballots.

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Well imagine that. I mean, after all the research that's

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being done on these machines and then they're determining Keith

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that hand ballots. They're ninety percent cheaper to do it

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that way than with these machines that are so easy

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to rig. I don't know if you saw this one

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technician who came on, but he did. He changed the

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the outcome of the machines with a ballpoint pen.

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Absolutely. I mean, there's no reason we don't use paper

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ballots with serial numbers. There's no reason we can't count

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these things in one day. I mean, think about the

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number of voters in most precincts. It's a lot smaller

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than you would imagine. We can get this sort of

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thing done. We don't need to let it be a

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drawn out process full of cheating.

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Well, the Constitution says we're reserved one day, and now

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you've got States going, oh, two weeks. I like two

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weeks better than one day. Well, you know, the longer

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term you have, the more opportunity and window for cheating

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you allow. I mean, it's even like these mail in ballots.

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I thought it was curious that Vladimir Puting. One of

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the things that he said to Donald Trump right away

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in their recent meeting was you know, these mail in ballots.

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You know that's the best way for you know, fraudulent voting.

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Is why I think ninety percent of Europe doesn't do

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mail in ballots, of not one hundred percent.

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in the United States as long since past. That's something

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you get to do in a high trust society, and

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unfortunately America is moving away from being a high trust society.

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break the law, bend rules, and do whatever it takes

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to get their agenda pushed forward. I mean, that's how

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it seems a lot of these Democrats operate. They think

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that their mission is so righteous that they can lie,

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cheat and steal to accomplish it. They don't value the

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fact that other people disagree with them and that other

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people are out voting them. They think other people are

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just wrong and they know better. That's a terrifying idea.

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Well, they're so ideologically fixed and their philosophy is so flawed.

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But when you are in group think and you're siloed,

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as Jordan Peterson says, you can, you know, you can

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become so ideologically fixed that you render yourself stupid. And

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this is sadly where the Democratic Party is right now,

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and it's unfortunate that that's where they're at. And I

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say unfortunately because you know, for the most part, this

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country is built on a two party system. But what

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happens is when it's so adversarial. See, at the end

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of the day, you can have two parties, but the

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end of the day, you need to come together and say, hey, okay,

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look we lost this time. You know, we'll work harder

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next time and offer a better message to the people,

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and you know, hopefully we'll win next time. And then

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we move on and uh, you know, support the smooth

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transition into a new administration and support the president that

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the majority of the country has chosen, right, whether it's

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my popular voter or by the electoral college, but regardless,

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it's it's who we voted for, and we need to

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get behind it. But unfortunately, you know, politics has become

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so dirty. And I've said Keith that part of the

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problem is is that, see, politics was always set up

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in such a way that it would be downstreamed the culture. Okay,

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so the culture would influence politics. But what's happened there

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was a switch that came over, and I'm not sure

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exactly when, but it flipped to where culture is downstream politics,

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and I believe that's contributing to the meanness that people

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have toward one another and this incivility. The other thing

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that you mentioned clearly is the fact that, you know,

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I think our consideration for morality has fallen off as well.

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You know, John Adams said that our Constitution was designed

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for a moral people, a moral and righteous people, and

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we've lost that grip of morality and righteousness. I'm not

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saying totally. I still believe a majority of Americans are

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still moral, but there's still too many that are immoral

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that think it's Okay, it's justified because you know, after all, Kate,

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you know that Donald Trump gut he's a fascist. He

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is Adolf Hitler incarnate, and you know, we got to

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do whatever we have to do in order that, you know,

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we keep him out of the white at any costant.

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talk about the divide between the left and the right

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these days, and it seems like it's more of a

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modern problem because we used to at least have major

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agreement on most issues between the left and the right.

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At the end of the day, we might disagree on

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how to get there, but we all agreed that the

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constitutional values needed to be upheld. Now we're seeing a

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left that has no interest in upholding constitutional values, and

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they aren't a moral society. More often than not lately,

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they aren't able to be governed in a way that

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our constitution provides because they just don't honor the constitution.

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because when you think, you know, here we have I

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don't know ever in our lifetime, Keith, that there's been

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so many what you would call eighty to fifteen ninety

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ten type propositions, right, you know, whether we're talking the border,

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whether we're talking about you know, sex and sports, sex

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in each other's locker rooms, transgender, I mean, go down

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the list. I mean, these are like eighty five to

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fifteen ninety ten types of issues. And the Democrats consistently

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are on the short side of the deal. And you

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think what I mean, when you come over for dinner

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for Thanksgiving, it's hard to have a conversation. There's not

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many topics left to talk about that's not going to

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tick you off. And have you thrown biscuits across the room?

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You know what I'm saying, Well, sometimes maybe it's appropriate

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to throw a few biscuits. Because folks need to get

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good at talking about politics again. They need to understand

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that their fellow man has a valid perspective, even if

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it's different from them. But a lot of folks on

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the left have taken up this idea that they need

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to support the underdog. And now they think that supporting

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literally anyone who goes against conventional society conventional values, must

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be that underdog who is worthy of their support. And

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as a result, they end up going against American values.

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I mean, that's what we're seeing in New York right

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now with this mom dommy communist. They're saying, folks can't

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afford bread, so therefore we need to confiscate private property,

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run a government operated grocery store, and to heck with capitalism.

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But that's a a crazy thing. I mean, why not

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just help these people succeed by getting the government out

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of the way, reducing regulation and let them go earn

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a living.

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But yeah, without a doubt, you know, and you mentioned

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the underdog. You know, we had this situation in Florida

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where I live and not Fort not more than forty

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five minutes from where I live up in Fort Piers,

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where you had a licensed truck driver licensed from the

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state of California. Oh, by the way, a commercial license,

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and he makes an illegal U turn. The guy barely

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knows the language. When they gave him a language test

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of the sixteen questions, I think he could only answer

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three correctly. And Keith, I don't know, did you see this.

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There was something like two point seven million or one

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point seven but I mean, an incredible number of people

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her championing his cause.

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Was a pretty appalling to see that. You know, this

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guy killed people by breaking our laws. He shouldn't have

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been in our country at all. He was here illegally.

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He never should have been given a license, but he was,

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of course by some sanctuary state California. The real question

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is why aren't these California politicians being prosecuted by the

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federal government for aiding and a betting the illegal aliens. Instead,

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the rest of us are stuck with a bunch of

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criminals who are taking our jobs, getting people killed on highways,

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and they shouldn't even be here exactly.

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Keith, you're an attorney. I mean, is there any kind

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of civil liability to where these families could go back

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and go sue the heck out of you know, Governor Newsom.

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Because Governor Newsom, I gotta tell you, I mean, I

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was born and raised in California, and I saw when

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this happened, you know, shortly after I mean nine to eleven,

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I'm talking within ten years or so, you know, California

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really went. They just they're so open minded, their brains

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fell out. And then Newsom comes in and here, you know,

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right after nine to eleven, remember we everything you know,

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heightened at airports, you had to have correct documentation, your

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shoes were taking I mean they were taking everything off

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of you in order to get on an airplane because

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everything had to be you know, really tight security and everything.

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And then what does Newsom do is that he signs

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an order a bill so that illegal immigrants can get

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driver's license. So now they have access to airports and

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airlines across the country. So what happened to our national

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security and all because Governor Newsom wanted to give them

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a driver's license? And then part two of that was, oh, yeah,

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anybody that has a driver's license get guess what they get.

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We're going to send them a ballot.

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It's really a problem that Democrats want to selectively enforce

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the laws. They don't like immigration laws, so they just

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think they should be allowed to ignore them. And we

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need to have federal prosecutions for these state governments that

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allow aliens to take benefits like driver's licenses from states.

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These are ultimately federally funded benefits for the most part,

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and the federal government should step in and enforce the law.

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They should prosecute state politicians who issue these licenses. Your

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original question, can the families who lost people due to

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this illegal immigrants U turn. Can they sue, Yeah, they

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can sue. Will they win? Probably not. Unfortunately, the government

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has kind of rigged the cards against the people over

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the last few decades, and the concept of immunity has

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been so broadened that it's virtually impossible to hold a

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government official who even one who conducts serious negligence like

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we're seeing with the California driver's license issuance, really hard

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to hold them accountable and win that case in court

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because immunity is just too broad. We need legislation about

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this to narrow the scope of that immunity. But more importantly,

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we need the US Department of Justice to start locking

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these people up because they are helping illegal aliens evade capture.

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Well. And these as you said, you know these illegal

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aliens coming. First of all, they break the law, you know,

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coming into our country without you know, proper authorization, and

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they steal from the American people. I mean, who who

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do you let into your home to come in and

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start sealing stealing your groceries and seal food off your

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table that is supposed to go to your kids. But

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on a larger scale, and you know, we're allowing them

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to come in. I mean, this is so unjust, it's

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not right on so many levels for even the immigrant.

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And so what happens the Democrats here, they let them in.

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They have to operate in the shadows. And it's almost

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like we're back at the turn of the twentieth century again,

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where you had the rise of mafia's operating in these

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cities because they had a lot of illegal immigrants in there.

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And who could they go to. Well, I can go

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to a mafia boss. Mafia boss will do my bidding.

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I can't call the police. And so who do these

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illegal immigrants go to. Well, they've got gang members now

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that operate as their you know, quasi government and their

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police force to do their bidding. They're not going to

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dial nine to one one. And so the Democrats in

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their thinking go, well, they're not going to call nine

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to eleven. So maybe we ought to do is we'll

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turn our cities into sanctuary cities and everybody will be saved. Well,

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how's that working for you? It's not so safe in

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these sanctuary cities. This is why when Donald Trump is

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doing what he's doing to bring these sanctuary cities back

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up to code again and have law enforcement. You have

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these local citizens going, thank you, Donald Trump. I have

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been able to take my kid to a park in

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ten years.

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It gets back to this idea that the left and

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right are just unnecessarily divided. We should at least agree

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that all of the laws need to be enforced. If

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the folks on the left don't like the law, well

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then try to change it in Congress. But you can't

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just ignore the law and let a bunch of illegals

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take over. That's that's unacceptable.

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Well, well, you know, when we started we talked about,

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you know, how retribution is working out. Some of it

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is it's just a natural inertia of things. You know,

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you can only do so much evil and eventually it'll

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come back and get you. And this is what seems

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to be happening, you know, particularly with the Democrats, and

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it bothers me. Keith, I got to tell you to

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constantly be pointing fingers of the Democrats. And I know

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some people say, well, the Republicans do it too. Well,

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you know, it doesn't make it right. And even if

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the republic whoever they are, they should be they should

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be held into account if if there's you know, if

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they've broken the law they should be. I mean, here

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it is, you put Donald Trump through all kinds of

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hell and what have you. And you know, even with

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this last judgment, the courts didn't even support Ernawan to

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have one dollar substantiated of the five hundred million dollars

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that he assigned to Trump. What does that say?

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The idea of equal justice has got to be restored.

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And if that means holding a lot of these deep

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state actors like John Bolton accountable, well I think that's

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a good start in the right direction. It shouldn't matter

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whose party you're in, what your political views are. If

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you break the law, it should be enforced uniformly. In

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the meantime, we've got a lot of progress happening. You know,

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there's progress happening on holding these people accountable. But we've

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already seen the illegal immigrants that were coming across our

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border stop. All it took was a new president. And

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I said this all along during the campaign season. Everybody said, well,

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we need this new bill or we need this new funding. No,

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you just need a president willing to enforce the laws

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that are already on the books.

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Keith in one day, in one day, he turned the

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border around Yep, like you said, there wasn't any big

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00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.599
act of Congress or anything like that. Man, We've been

465
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waiting for Congress to act on immigration for how many years? Decades?

466
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.640
It's been going on and on, and they all they

467
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.359
can do is, oh, let's find a way to amnesty

468
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.039
these illegal immigrants, and going wait a minute, you don't

469
00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:00.480
even have a handle of this. You know, we have

470
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.680
an immigration system, it's pretty effective that allows for about

471
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.119
a million immigrants to come in and they do so legally.

472
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.079
They also do it in a way that is not

473
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:15.119
a burden on the taxpayer. You know, there's certain regulations

474
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.039
that have to have to be in line here. And

475
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.799
these people that come in like this, guess what they

476
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.720
want to do, Keith. They want to assimilate. They want

477
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.799
to be a part of the American dream. And the

478
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:27.559
only way you can be part of the American dream

479
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:28.759
is you've got to be in the boat with the

480
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:30.160
rest of us, don't you.

481
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.079
You've got to come to this country and join the

482
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fabric of American society. You have to assimilate. You can't

483
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:37.480
do like these folks are doing in Minneapolis and try

484
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.359
to build mini Somalia up there. Change the state flag

485
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.279
called a prayer in what used to be a great

486
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:47.200
American city. I mean, they've totally tried to build their

487
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:52.440
foreign nation in Minneapolis, instead of joining a thriving community

488
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.799
with manufacturing, great jobs. They could have joined all of

489
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.480
that adopted American values, and instead they insist in keeping

490
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.440
their third world paradigms and worse, trying to impose those

491
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:06.680
third world paradigms on Americans.

492
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:10.720
Exactly, Well, where's the leadership in Minneapolis, Keith, you know,

493
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.119
just like where's the leadership in Baltimore or DC? You

494
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.079
know where Trump has to come in and bring the

495
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:20.839
National Guard in and just like at the at the border. Yeah,

496
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.319
I mean, what has it been almost two weeks? Nobody's

497
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:25.599
been murdered in d C. People going to walk the

498
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.480
street and actually, like like one couple they were being interviews, said,

499
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:30.400
you know, we're able to go out to dinner again.

500
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:31.920
We haven't been able to go out to dinner in

501
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:33.480
the longest time. We forgot what it was.

502
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.000
Like leftists have gotten so soft that they're allowing the

503
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.880
criminals to take over. That's the lack of leadership. It's

504
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:43.400
that these people have such a utopian, idealistic vision that

505
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.559
they are blind to reality. It sounds so nice not

506
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.839
to lock people up until you realize that when you

507
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.519
don't walk up bad guys, they hurt people. Law enforcement

508
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.000
needs to be given free rein to enforce the law,

509
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.880
and prosecutors need to be directed to actually put them

510
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.559
in jail, not just let them out the back with

511
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.880
a slap on the wrist or a small cash veil.

512
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:05.640
We've seen that happen in all the blue cities all

513
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:09.079
over the country. The story just keeps repeating, and leftists

514
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:11.200
aren't standing up and saying, you know what, we were wrong.

515
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.559
Soft on crimes, a terrible idea, gets people hurt, they

516
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.039
still think they're right. It's the most illogical, insane thing

517
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:19.000
I have ever seen.

518
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:21.519
Well, and this is why the people on the right

519
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:24.640
who have had success time and again, we need to

520
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.480
hold our ground, you know, and you know there's no apology.

521
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:30.720
I mean, what are we doing. We're saving lives here,

522
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:35.480
We're allowing people to enjoy their communities again, families to

523
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.920
thrive again. And where are they thriving? In these red states,

524
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:43.119
not the blue states. The blue states. People are escaping.

525
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:44.640
I mean, you don't even want to stand at the

526
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.519
exit doors. And in these blue states like New York

527
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:50.000
and California. You're gonna get run over by U hauls

528
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:51.319
getting not a dodge.

529
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.640
Yes, And you say blue states, and heck, if you

530
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.039
delete a few of those blue cities within each of

531
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:00.680
those states, it's a red state. Don't really even have

532
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.200
blue states in this country. We have a few bright

533
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:08.079
blue cities that either outvote or defraud the vote and

534
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.559
outweigh the rest of us. We shouldn't be ruled by

535
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:11.599
a bunch of blue cities.

536
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.400
Well, and it's the thing, you know, and basically, you know,

537
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.599
I read that is as a hint towards jerrymandering. I mean,

538
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.920
the Democrats have become you know, ten degree black belts

539
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:24.480
and jerrymandering. They've been doing this getting away with it

540
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.160
for over ten years plus. You know, Eric Holder was

541
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.960
like the jerry mandering czar for the Democratic Party, especially

542
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:37.079
after he left the Biden and the Obama administration. And

543
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.920
you know, and so now Republicans have woke up, thank

544
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.359
you very much, Donald Trump, and said, hey, guys, you

545
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.720
don't need to roll over anymore. I mean, you know,

546
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.119
to the victor belong to spoils, and we need to

547
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.759
level out the playing field here. You can't have forty

548
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.319
five percent of a state voting Republican and getting zero

549
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.960
seats representation. I mean, it's like the illegal immigrants have

550
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:01.319
better representation than forty five five percent of the citizens.

551
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:02.720
How does that math work out?

552
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.920
Keith, No, That's exactly the problem with the Democrat Party

553
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.880
is they scream and cry and accuse, and in reality,

554
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.319
they are the ones who have been jerrymandering these states

555
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:14.480
for decades.

556
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:14.799
Now.

557
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.319
It's not just one or two states, it's a dozen

558
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.039
states where it's more than thirty or forty percent of

559
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.960
the vote is Republican, but zero of the congressional seats

560
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.720
are Republican seats because they have jerrymandered the heck out

561
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.920
of those states for decades. Now you finally see a

562
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.599
state like Texas stepping up and working to fix that,

563
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.599
in a state like Florida threatening to, and the Democrats

564
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.920
are up in arms saying it's just unbelievable that the

565
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.759
Republicans would do this. They don't want to admit that

566
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.160
they've been doing it for decades.

567
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.599
Well, and it ticks me off, Keith frankly and putting

568
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.839
it moldly that they of course they right away knee

569
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.640
jerk throw the race card out. They're being racist. It's

570
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:57.440
all designed, you know, to oppress blacks. And when you

571
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.799
look at how the design of the map is being

572
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.680
reconstructed in Texas, for example, it's very fair. It actually

573
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.559
opens up, I believe, two seats or you know, for

574
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.640
black representation, if the people locally so choose, you know,

575
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.440
for a black representative, right. I mean, if it had

576
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:16.960
been the Democrats and said, oh, we're going you think

577
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.240
they're going to open up seats for Republicans, I haven't

578
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.039
heard one time where they've opened up his seats. And

579
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.880
the only time seats get opened up on some of

580
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:28.720
these blue states is because there's an outside supposedly an

581
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:33.160
independent commission, like they have in California. And but yet

582
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.680
some of these outlines of these states, I mean, it's hysterical.

583
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.319
I mean, I think the Democrats are going to rue

584
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.359
the day that they brought this up to issue, because

585
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.000
now it's being scrutinized. The voter is starting to see

586
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.400
this themselves and they go, oh, now I get it.

587
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:54.640
I understand now why certain legislation is coming down the

588
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.480
pike the way it is and why it's so biased

589
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.759
is because we really don't have a voice here, we

590
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.720
don't have a rep we don't have any representation. And

591
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.640
when you're talking like you said, thirty five forty five

592
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.160
percent of the electorate with zero representation, you know, I'll

593
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:13.200
tell you that makes for a lot of unhappy campers.

594
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:14.880
I would think Keith for sure.

595
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.680
And we're seeing the misuse of the Voting Rights Act

596
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.920
by Democrats for exactly what it is lately. And courts

597
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.599
have been striking down these challenges like they did recently

598
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.319
in Florida where they struck down a challenge or redrawing

599
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.240
the map and they said it was, you know, not

600
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.559
appropriate under the Voting Rights Act, that it was racist.

601
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.599
But the reality is Democrats have been enslaving and abusing

602
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:39.720
black Americans since hundreds of years now, and here they

603
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.920
are using them again, throwing a race card out, trying

604
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.240
to say that that's the reason Republicans can't redraw districts,

605
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.119
even though it would be a fair map drawing in

606
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:53.039
any other sense. It's the same reason that Democrats oppose

607
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.960
voter ID when it comes to voting in person, they say, well.

608
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:03.400
What is keith percent issue? Say voter ID, Yes, we

609
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:07.119
support that, but again, eighty twenty give me twenty percent.

610
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.000
That's where the Democrats are at.

611
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.759
It's crazy, It's really wild. You know, it should never

612
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.039
be controversial in America that you need to prove that

613
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.359
you're a US citizen and that you are who you

614
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.039
say you are to cast a ballot to control the

615
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.640
outcome of our country. It's one of the most sacred

616
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.920
things you get to do as a citizen. It needs

617
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:24.680
to be protected.

618
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.440
Well, it's it's the consent of the government. How do

619
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.839
you claim you have the consent of the govern if

620
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.640
you've stuffed a ballot box, you've done away with free

621
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.279
and fair elections. I mean even in California, for example,

622
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.480
Judicial Watch just got a decision and this was they

623
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:46.279
had three million voters, Keith, three million voters that were

624
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.680
on their voter roll that were dead. They're dead. Okay,

625
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.119
Now you would think, okay, these guys are dead, we

626
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.759
need to take those three million. Oh no, they fuss.

627
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.319
They've thought they were able to get you know, one

628
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.279
point five million off the voter road because there's still

629
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.079
not convinced the other one point five or dead, you know.

630
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.640
And the other thing is that it's interesting because only

631
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.079
in California you can die a Republican and come back

632
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:10.799
and vote a Democrat. Yeah.

633
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.519
I've seen some bumper stickers around my town here in Florida,

634
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.759
and that's that's what some of these bumper stickers say.

635
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.799
They say, Hey, when I die, don't let me vote Democrat.

636
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.240
But you know, but you know, it's it's funny. But

637
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.240
on the other hand, it's affecting the body politic, it's

638
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:33.599
affecting policy. You know, look at what happened. You know,

639
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.240
Joe Biden's in there for four years. You mentioned, you know,

640
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.200
you get the Robert Hurr report says the guy's incompetent,

641
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.519
he's mentally deficient. He couldn't handle a you know, a

642
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.519
courtroom environment, he couldn't handle a judicial process. And then

643
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:51.759
what do they do. They send him back to the

644
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.160
Oval office with the nuclear codes. It's like, hey, come on,

645
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.160
give me a break. You need to put a bag

646
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.720
over this guy's head, take him to Delaware and leave

647
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.319
him and give him his soup, you know, three times

648
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.880
whatever it is, I mean, the guy, I mean, you've

649
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.960
got a special prosecutor who spent all this time interviewing

650
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.480
him and the conclusion is he's he's a hot mess.

651
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.639
And we go, oh, but I guess he's not hot

652
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.280
mess enough, so we're just gonna let him go and

653
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.000
finish out the last to what the last two years

654
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.519
or one and a half years of his administration, and

655
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.079
then look what happens, you know, then we get the

656
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.320
mad auto pen in the last what month and month

657
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.480
half of his administration that you know they're looking at

658
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:34.440
that God only knows how many of those could probably

659
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.400
be null and void, including which I would love, you know,

660
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.800
doctor Fauci, and all the stuff that he put us through.

661
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.000
And then you know the hundreds of thousands of people

662
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.320
that died based on his advice and counsel that he

663
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.119
knew so much about right.

664
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.119
And the freedoms that we lost because the one operated

665
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:56.239
like a band of tyrannical crazy people. They thought it

666
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.159
was okay to override the Constitution and ignore all of

667
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.920
our rights in the name of public safety, supposedly based

668
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.639
on fake advice, bad science, and concealed reality. So I'm hopeful,

669
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:09.840
like I think a lot of us are, that we'll

670
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.079
see some real accountability for the end of Biden's term

671
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.280
and the fact that people use the auto pen effectively

672
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.840
stealing the power of the presidency without his authorization, knowledge

673
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.480
or mental capacity. I hope we'll see some investigations into

674
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.000
the failure of the cabinet to enact the twenty fifth

675
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.840
Amendment that they had a duty to do. They swore

676
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.480
an oath to us, to the people, to uphold our constitution.

677
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.760
But when it came time to call out the fact

678
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.239
that we had a mentally incompetent person sitting in the presidency,

679
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:40.800
they didn't do that. They let it slide. If a

680
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.079
Republican had done the same thing, it would be you know, meltdown.

681
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.719
But they did it, and they think we're just supposed

682
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.159
to move on and forget. I don't, like I said,

683
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:53.159
I wouldn't call this retribution. I would call this do accountability.

684
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.239
Right. Well, Keith, you know the thing is, go back

685
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.639
toward the last year of Donald Trump. It was Nancy

686
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:03.920
Pelos that was championing the twenty fifth Amendment, right she

687
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.480
was trying to force that into issue to have that employed,

688
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.119
and was challenging the cabinet, Donald Trump's cabinet to employ

689
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:13.800
the twenty fifth Amendment, claiming that he was you know,

690
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:18.760
mentally deficient, you know, back then. And it's just just amazing.

691
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.880
So here it was, and I remember when she did that,

692
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.360
I said, this could come back and haunt them. But

693
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.719
of course, the Democrats being who they are, like you said,

694
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.280
you know, a Republican, if they do something that is unacceptable,

695
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.480
they can't get them out of there fast enough. But

696
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.719
if it's a Democrat, boy, the wagons circle around them.

697
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.760
They stand alongside. You know, whether it's Hillary Clinton's you know,

698
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.039
thousands of emails they got lost that you have no

699
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.679
idea what happened to them. But I think that you know, again,

700
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.920
if it ever really comes out, because she managed to

701
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.159
destroy and you know, as an attorney, I mean she

702
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:56.360
destroyed evidence.

703
00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.159
Keith's a pretty serious deal and we never saw accountability

704
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.719
for that. Unfortunately, we probably never will because so much

705
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.800
time has passed. But Democrats they do the same thing

706
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.800
every time they all come out. They say the same thing,

707
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:10.960
like they're reading from a script. And the next thing

708
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.119
they do is try to shift the narrative, usually by

709
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.800
accusing Republicans of whatever it is they were just doing.

710
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.039
Oh they project, Yeah, there's no doubt, Keith. The deal

711
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.400
is is that you know, here we are. You know,

712
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.559
we've been talking for almost forty minutes here, and there

713
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.320
is so many things that they need to be held

714
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.880
accountable for. And it's like, can the people keep up

715
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.360
with it all? Because whether we're talking, you know, what

716
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.760
Obama did during the transition and even before then, what

717
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:41.440
he did with the tea parties, I still maintain that

718
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.519
he and lowist Learner have affected at least nine votings.

719
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.519
I mean, you talk about voter interference. What they did

720
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:51.400
by not giving tax exemption, which was a routine exercise

721
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:56.039
for the IRS to do for nonprofit organizations. But Obama,

722
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.960
just like LBJ did back in the mid sixties about churches,

723
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.800
Obama said, no, we got it, we got it. We

724
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.400
can't let these people have this kind of force and energy.

725
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.199
You cannot, you know. He kind of wink winked at

726
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:11.559
Lois Learner and look what she did, you know, and

727
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.079
she got in the way, interfered. And that still hasn't

728
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.599
been rectified. And I still say at least nine voting

729
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.079
cycles in counting that it affected. I mean, that is

730
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.760
voter interference on its face. So to think that Obama

731
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.559
was above doing the kind of things that have been

732
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.480
reported in terms of what he did to Trump, it's

733
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.159
not far fetched. I mean, it's consistent with his character

734
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:38.000
I would think.

735
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.679
Yeah, and there's only so much you can do to

736
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:41.880
go back in history and try to right wrongs. But

737
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.800
I think Donald Trump is prioritizing things. He's got a

738
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.719
lot of really smart people working in his administration. They're

739
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.519
working around the clock, and they're moving things. They're not

740
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.400
afraid to disrupt the status quo. I mean, look at

741
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.280
what they did with USAID and now suddenly Antifa's out

742
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.039
of money and the Democrat Party's not getting donations. I mean,

743
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.000
I think they found ahead of the snake and they

744
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.360
cut that off. So I know they're working down the chain.

745
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.480
They're working towards the rest of these problems that still exists.

746
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.360
And maybe four years isn't long enough to get real

747
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.639
change on every front, but I know they're going to

748
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:14.639
get the high points. They're going to get the biggest

749
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.599
things that we need to get done. And that's more

750
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.679
than we've ever had before. So I'll take it.

751
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.079
Well, this is why I said one of the reasons

752
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.280
why I said that we had to look at four

753
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.079
plus eight, you know, four years of Trump, eight more

754
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:29.320
years of a Republican And the thing is is it's

755
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:32.320
kind of been a gift that the Democrats have given

756
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:38.239
to the American people by you know, by getting lost

757
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:41.760
out in the wilderness. Right now, they're stranded because they've

758
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:44.000
abandoned who they are. They don't know who they are,

759
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:49.239
and in their desperation, they're just going more and more left.

760
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:53.119
And you know, here the American people have already spoken

761
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.400
time and again. Walk doesn't work. I don't care if

762
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.719
you're talking bud Light, Disneyland. I mean the billions of

763
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.760
dollar probably, I mean you started adding it up, be

764
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.320
trillions of dollars that these businesses have lost under this

765
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:10.760
these woke policies and DEI and that and the Democratic Party,

766
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:14.119
and you bring up something that you know, no one

767
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.119
has said before, but I think you're spot on, Keith,

768
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.599
and that is in talking about this money like that

769
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.360
was going to USAID and these other entities, how that

770
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.119
was coming back to the Democratic Party. And interesting you

771
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.800
choke off that part of the snake. And look at

772
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:34.880
their fundraising. What are they won eighth one seventh of

773
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:38.119
what the Republicans are right now in fundraising?

774
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:40.920
Pretty wild to see, and there is still a lot

775
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.920
of progress to be done. And like you said, I'm

776
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.760
looking at it that way. I'm looking at it in

777
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:47.519
hopes that we're going to have eight years of a

778
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.000
jd Vance administration. Right, the Democrats made a big mistake.

779
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.880
They came for Donald Trump and they missed. They gave

780
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.360
him four years to plan, four years to prepare and

781
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:02.119
find good people, knowing how underhanded the Democrats are and

782
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.960
knowing how rough it's going to be. So now he

783
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.960
went back into office knowing all the dirty tricks they're

784
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.400
going to try to pull, and instead of getting distracted

785
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.840
trying to defend against their ridiculous allegations, this time he's

786
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.880
just ignoring it, rolling on and doing the work he

787
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:16.519
wanted to do.

788
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:17.199
Right.

789
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.519
The real thing the Democrats aren't ready for is jd

790
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.800
Vance because he's seen all of this happening. He is

791
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.360
whipped smart, He's a brilliant attorney. Right. He is going

792
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.679
to get in there and be more ruthless than the

793
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.719
Democrats can possibly imagine. If they think Donald Trump's hard

794
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.159
to deal with, wait till they get jd. Vance, because

795
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.480
he's going to take the He's going to take that

796
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.639
tour from Trump and keep running.

797
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.400
Well, you imagine the playbook that Trump has developed over

798
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:45.760
these years, Keith, It's impressive, and he's going to hand

799
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.239
that off to the next administration. I mean, you talk

800
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:56.280
about White House secrets, you know that Trump has that

801
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.800
are just hey, this is what they do. This is

802
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.920
the playbook, don't you know, stay the course. And that's

803
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:04.920
the thing that I appreciate that you you just brought

804
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.400
out about Trump. He is he is dead eye focused

805
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.079
on this. You know, he doesn't seem I mean, he

806
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:13.400
still he still loves to troll the media. I think

807
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.320
it's amusement for him at times. And I get and

808
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:18.639
I get it some Republicans they get nervous about it.

809
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:20.719
I said, look, he's just having fun, don't you know.

810
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.280
Just relax. You know, politics, even in the midst of

811
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:26.360
this insanity, can can still be fun, can it, Keith.

812
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.800
It definitely can. And he seems to have fun with it,

813
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:30.320
like he point. I mean, he says it out right,

814
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.480
he says, you know, it's called we're gonna go do

815
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.480
a little trolling. And he goes to something just to

816
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.719
get him wound up. And it's really fun to watch

817
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.880
him get going after he goes and winds them up.

818
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:41.760
Well, And it's a little bit easier to have fun

819
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:45.000
when you're winning, yep, right, And I mean at every turn.

820
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.559
I mean, we just we just keep on winning. And

821
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.440
that's why you know, these these socialists, when they come

822
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.760
in and they try to do something, you might have

823
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.800
a bit of a falling like mom Donnie has in

824
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.840
New York, and it's like, what a train wreck that

825
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.920
that's going to be. I mean, already these businesses are

826
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.639
not participating. They're looking at an exit. I mean, if

827
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.440
you were, if you were a corporation in New York,

828
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.079
I mean you're looking for you're looking for an exit

829
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.199
plan or plan B. Because if this guy gets into office,

830
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:18.320
I mean here he is. I mean government, government stores,

831
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:21.119
grocery stores, I mean grocery stores there in New York

832
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.639
lucky at one and a half two percent. They operate

833
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.119
on a margin. Government doesn't know about one and a

834
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:27.119
half or two months.

835
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:29.639
No, they're going to lose money, but citizens are going

836
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.000
to think it's great. They're going to see discount groceries

837
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:33.719
and think that's awesome. They're not going to see the

838
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.920
fact that massive tax revenues are offsetting the losses behind

839
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.480
the scenes, and they're not going to care because they're

840
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:41.960
probably not the ones paying those taxes. But what it

841
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:43.760
is going to do is run all the people who

842
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.639
pay the taxes out of town.

843
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.760
Right exactly. And the thing is, you know, it's interesting

844
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:50.880
because when it came up, it was not that long

845
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.760
afterwards that in Missouri they had a government run store

846
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:57.239
and they were showing how it was shutting down and

847
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.440
all you saw was a bag of I think hot

848
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.960
dog buns on the shelf, one one bag. So it's like,

849
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:05.519
so much for that success. But you know, the thing is,

850
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.079
like like anything, you always want to look at a

851
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.000
what's what somebody has done, tells you what there's what

852
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.559
they're going to do. And communism is the same way.

853
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.000
Socialism is the same the same way. You look back

854
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:21.760
in history and you can't even recount one one country

855
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.400
that said socialism was the best thing that ever happened

856
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.719
to me as opposed to capitalism, for example, because that's

857
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.199
really what the war is all about. It's either going

858
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.400
to be capitalism or it's going to be socialism or

859
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:38.039
socialism light, or some derivation of an ism that they

860
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.519
that they have to offer. And you know, they may

861
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.320
they may get exactly what they're asking for and have

862
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.880
to find out that gravity still exists, right they might.

863
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.039
You know, folks are dying to come to America from

864
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:56.199
communist and socialist countries, not the other way around, generally speaking.

865
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:59.440
And it's just like crime, it's about incentives. If you

866
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.679
incentive as something, you get more of it. If you

867
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.800
disincentivize or punish something, you get less of it. What

868
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:06.760
do you think is going to happen in a capitalist

869
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.480
society when you take away the incentive that if you

870
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:11.639
go out build a business and earn good money, you

871
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:13.880
get to keep that money and you know, enjoy the

872
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.039
fruits of your labor. You take away the fruits of

873
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.360
the labor, there's no point in doing the labor anymore.

874
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.280
And that's how pretty much every communist country in history

875
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.159
has fallen apart and starved its citizens because people just said, well,

876
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.000
if I'm not going to get anything for doing all

877
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:28.960
this work, why work I get the same amount off

878
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:29.559
I don't work?

879
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.920
Well exactly, Well, that's like you know, unions. That's why

880
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:37.039
unions have, you know, in terms of the private sector.

881
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.239
You know, at one point there were about thirty three

882
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.079
percent of the labor for us. I think it's down

883
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.079
to less than ten percent. And so where did they grow?

884
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.119
They grew in government. And that's why it's so hard

885
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.159
in some cases to do the things that Elon Musk

886
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.599
and Doge proposed because you had to deal with unions,

887
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.760
and you know, and it's it's it's tedious. But I

888
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.440
love what Trump is doing in terms of give hope

889
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.679
to the American people, Keith, and I know you do too,

890
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:07.000
because it's about having a fair shot at it, you know,

891
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:11.119
and also to be able to keep the fruit of

892
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:13.440
your labor and all your hard work right.

893
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.880
Absolutely, and talking about these unions in government, I mean,

894
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.719
that's just about restoring the constitutional order. The idea that

895
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.199
a union can override the constitutional authority of the executive

896
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.079
branch head the president in hiring and firing. That's just

897
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:32.800
an anti constitutionalist idea. No contract can override the Constitution,

898
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:35.360
that is the supreme law of the land. We need

899
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.800
to have more people on the bench who understand that

900
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:41.159
and who will start to uphold the constitutional provision against

901
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:45.119
invalid laws and some invalidating laws that conflict with the Constitution.

902
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.519
And we need to send people to Congress who believe

903
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:52.920
the same thing, Keith. We can't have wishy you know, Republicans,

904
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:59.280
you know, spineless legislators who go in and want to

905
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:03.800
you know, you know, be invited to cocktail parties and

906
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.239
be more interested in getting re elected than doing the

907
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:09.639
people's business. We've had too much of that. You know,

908
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:12.679
we have an opportunity right now. We're seeing the truth

909
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.360
of the matter, and we have an opportunity to correct course,

910
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.440
as you say, and hopefully the American people can follow

911
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:23.320
Donald Trump's lead. And if you lack a spine, find

912
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.599
your spine, whatever it is that you need to do

913
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.599
in order to turn this country around and to turn

914
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.360
over to the next generation, and America that's greater than

915
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.960
it's ever been. And here we are. I think the

916
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.800
potential is there, Keith, with you know what we're doing

917
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.440
with tariffs and what Trump is doing with peace. I

918
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.320
don't know how long this thing can last, but why

919
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.360
not make the most of it while the sun is shining,

920
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:49.119
I'd say.

921
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.159
Bill, I think it's going to last. This is the

922
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.079
generation where we can start to restore the freedoms that

923
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:56.000
have been lost over the years, where we can push

924
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:59.320
back against government regulation, and where we can push back

925
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.000
against the bat foreign trade deals that America has been

926
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.920
stuck with for a long time. We've finally got a

927
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.639
president who is only worried about one thing, and that

928
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.159
is caring for Americans. He's not worried about being looked

929
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.320
upon kindly by the rest of the world. He cares

930
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.480
about taking care of Americans, and that's what a president

931
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.639
should do. So now we need to make sure that

932
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.679
the people in Congress back him up pass laws to

933
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.480
support his agenda. And I think that's going to keep happening.

934
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:26.840
It's not just right now. When you look at the

935
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.000
voting demographics with the young kids, now twenty year olds

936
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.320
are voting more conservatively than seventy five year olds. They've

937
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:37.400
seen the downside of a tyrannical government. They've seen excessive

938
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.440
bureaucracy in action, and they know we need less government

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in our lives if we want to have freedom.

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Well, Keith Grocer're awesome, Thank you. I appreciate your insight

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and encouragement. And I understand you may be running for office.

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Can I say that, Well, I haven't announced yet.

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I'm not ready to make any announcements, but I certainly

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haven't ruled it out. You know, I've been asked to

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run and it's definitely not ruled out at this stage.

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I live up in the Florida Panhandle, as you probably know,

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infessional district too, and I'll say it's not ruled out.

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Well, that's I'll take that bit of good news and

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bit of encouraged by our audience. Will as well. Keith Gross,

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legal analyst, former assistant state attorney and prosecutor for the

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state of Florida. You've served in the Montana National Guard.

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He's a business owner, he's the author of dirt roads

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to runways. And we'll wait and see if he is

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and becomes a political candidate for the Panhandle there in

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District two in Florida. Keith, we need you.

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We need a lot of work to be done in Congress,

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and right now we see a lot of fancy dinner

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parties and a lot of folks that want to keep

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their jobs rather than do it. I think it's time

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to get some change, get some energy up there, and

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get things.

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Done well again. Keith, thank you so much for being

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with his stake care. Be blessed you. Keith Gross has

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been our guest. I'll tell you what. Just appreciate his

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insight and his experience and what we're able to talk about.

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I hope you've been blessed by the conversation. And that's

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going to be a wrap for us. Thank you. May

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God bless you and keep you. May make His face

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shine upon you. May He be gracious unto you and

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give you peace. God bless