Bidenomics, Working, Not Working? What Is Your Wallet Telling You?

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FORCY Radio. Well, welcome to
the Bill Martini Show. Greg, to

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have you with us. The question
that many Americans are asking and the reason

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they're asking the question because they're being
told something different than what reality is demonstrating

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to them, and that is Bidenomics
working not working well. What is your

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wallet telling you? Well, there's
enough common sense to go around to tell

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us that we're being spun and being
spun hard at every turn because what the

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President is telling us and what this
administration is telling us is not squaring up

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with the reality of every month and
the paycheck that we get. Sadly,

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we find ourselves with more month than
paycheck. That's where we are over sixty

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percent of America is living paycheck to
paycheck. We've now accumulated well over a

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trillion dollars in credit card debt,
and that is nasty. A trillion dollars.

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I mean, think of it.
I mean, I guess we can

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compare if you want. Thirty three
trillion dollars in debt that our country just

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eclipse the other day and nary was
there a shrug of the shoulders and announcement

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and nothing. It's just like,
well, thirty three trillion dollars. So

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what, oh boy, we have
a lot to sew. What about that

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in just a moment with our next
guest, Because even as the resident touts

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the success of Bidenomics, member he
keeps saying it's working. It's like working

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for who, Joe, Please help
me understand well the Americans. Americans are

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expecting the economy to get worse over
the next year than they think it will

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improve, according to Rasmussen. Meanwhile, Biden says it's working. The reality

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and pain of Bidenomics is drowning out
his spin about the Biden economy. Meanwhile,

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the President has the temerity to take
a swipe at Trump's economy as part

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of his labor speech to union members. Well, our next guest, doctor

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Michael Busler, the public policy analyst
and economics professor, notes that the federal

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deficit is expected to nearly double this
year. Doctor Bustler, welcome to the

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show. Good to have you with
us. Well, thanks for having me,

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Bill, I know it's always my
pleasure to be here. Well,

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we need smart guys like you,
Michael, you know, to break this

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down because unfortunately there's a dereliction of
duty from the mainstream media that is dumbing

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down the American people and buying into
this Fox narrative that Biden's economy is working

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for America when they know, darn
well it's not. So. I don't

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know how you define working for America, but let's take a look at what

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is involved with biden nomics. The
first thing the president did when he got

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into office, excuse me, is
declare war on fossil fuels. Right can

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soil the Keystone Pipeline. He made
the permitting process more difficult. He withdrew

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permits to drill on federal lands,
and he essentially said to the banks,

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don't lend to the petroleum industry because
there is no future there. As a

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result of that oil production dropped from
twelve point five million barrels a day when

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he took office to eleven million barrels
a day. Now it has rebounded somewhat,

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but it dropped down to eleven million
dollars a day. When you decrease

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the supply of anything, the price
is going to go up. And what

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happened to energy prices? They went
up significantly and that was a large contributor

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to inflation. What else is involved
in by noomics, Well, he decided

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to increase federal spending substantially and increase
the federal deficit. As you mentioned,

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the public debt, which is the
accumulation of all deficits over time, has

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now exceeded over thirty three trillion dollars. President Biden has added significantly to that.

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He's run up approximately six trillion dollars
in his first three years. The

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federal government's fiscal year ends on September
thirtieth. The deficit for this year will

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be about two trillion. Add that
to the one trillion last year and the

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three trillion the year before, and
you end up with a six trillion dollars

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added to the public debt. That
means that when you increase government spending,

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and it creates a deficit that leads
to excess demand in the economy, and

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that excess demand in the economy pulls
prices up. So we had inflationary impact

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from energy prices going up. We
had an inflationary impact from excess demand in

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the economy. And then the Federal
Reserve, and I call this shockingly irresponsible

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behavior. In twenty twenty one,
the economy was growing at a six percent

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rate, yet the Federal Reserve for
the entire year and well into twenty twenty

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two, kept interest rates near zero
and kept expanding the money supply by purchasing

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two hundred and forty billion dollars a
month of government bonds that also created excess

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demand. Michael hang On, just
second, let me ask you this,

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like I mean, the Federal Reser. We're talking people that understand, you

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know, monetary policy, and they
should be on top of this in such

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a way to where they should know
what's on the horizon and what to anticipate.

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And you're telling me that they totally
ignored the signs, knowing the trajectory

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of the economy was going to move
in a certain direction, but yet they

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recklessly went forward with a policy that
was unsustainable. So the goals of monetary

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policy are supposed to be price stability, keep inflation low, full employment,

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keep unemployment low, and growth in
the economy. For some reason, they

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forgot or ignored the price stability part, and as a result of that,

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prices weren't stable, and they contributed, along with bionomics, to the excess

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demand and the economy. Finally,
in June of twenty twenty two, the

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annual inflation rate had hit over nine
percent. Chairman Powell said, well,

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the economy doesn't work for anybody when
prices are rising, so now price stability

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becomes one of our goals. They
were so far behind that it had to

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dramatically raise interest rates, and over
the next six months they raised them significantly,

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from near zero up to about five
percent. They raised somewhat going into

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twenty twenty three. But right now
the federal funds rate is between five and

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a quarter and five and a half
percent. The Federal Reserve in about an

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hour is going to say what they're
going to do with interest rates. Now.

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The popular belief is they're going to
keep them constant. I think it's

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a big mistake. They should take
them up a little bit. Higher to

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help fight this inflation problem. Well, and the thing is, Michael,

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when this movement was happening, I
mean, this was in light of COVID,

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right, So we had some disturbances
in the force of supply chain.

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This wasn't a mystery to people,
right, and they seem to ignore that

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reality as well. Now, my
view is that supply chain disruptions did not

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add significantly to inflation. While certain
markets like chips and things had supply chain

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disruptions, by July of twenty twenty
one, Remember we shut the economy down

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in April of twenty twenty. By
July of twenty twenty one, in total,

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the economy was producing at the same
level as before the pandemic. So

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while there may be some disruptions in
certain markets in the aggregate, in total,

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supply problems were not the supply issues
rather were not the problem. It

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was excess the demand from the federal
government through their bidonomics program and the federal

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reserves shockingly irresponsible policy by letting interest
rates stay where they were. Well,

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of course, the other thing that
came roaring back was because we're talking,

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you know, President Biden, the
Democrats and the haters of anything that worked

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previously under the previous administration. Anything
that had Donald Trump's initials on it,

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they had to get rid of it. And of course one of the major

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issues was regulation Nation. It came
back with a roar, didn't it.

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It certainly did President Trump. When
he got into office, he said,

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I'm going to get rid of two
regulations for everyone that will be added.

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That reduction in regulations made it much
easier for business to expand and grow.

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And although we didn't get quite the
growth under the Trump administration that we'd like,

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we were on the verge of getting
that growth. In twenty twenty before

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the pandemic, President Biden came into
office, and he said, well,

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the government's got to regulate everything.
So we're going to add more regulations,

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and we're going to protect the people, and we're gonna save the environment.

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We're going to add all these regulations
that tends to slow down supply. And

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when I slow down supply, it
tends to raise prices. Well, and

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there you go. I mean,
let's go ahead and bring regulations back because

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they work so well. I mean, let's forget about the empirical evidence and

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what has happened time again, whether
it was the Reagan years. We saw

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it a bit during the Bush years, certainly a lot more during Trump.

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And this is in spite, Michael, of the resistance that was on full

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display by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. It's a wonder that America even did

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as well as it did because of
the antifical forces and the headwinds that hit

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the Donald Trump economy and the American
economy. You know, Bill, and

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I've talked about this on your show
before. If you look at the big

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picture here, how did the US
go from the birth of a nation to

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the largest, most powerful economy in
the world in about one hundred and fifty

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years. Other nations were hundreds,
in some cases thousands of years older.

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How did that happen? Again,
We've talked about this before. Four based

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principles. In my view, we
encouraged individual freedom as long as you didn't

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infringe upon anybody else's rights and pretty
much do what you wanted to do.

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Secondly, we encouraged individual responsibility as
long as you were physically or mentally able

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to take care of yourself. Everybody
took care of themselves. You had a

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family, of course, helping,
but everybody took care of themselves. Thirdly,

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we had very low rates of taxation, so you knew whatever you earned

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you were going to keep most of
it, exactly in this incentive. And

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fourthly, we had a limited role
for government. The government provided defense of

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the country, a legal system,
etc. But in terms of business and

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the economy, they sort of got
out of the way. So individual freedom,

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individual responsibility, low rates of taxation, and a limited role for government,

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in my view or what allowed the
country to grow as fast as it

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did. The Biden administration is doing
exactly the opposite in all four areas.

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They want to limit individ freedom.
They want to control the healthcare market,

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eventually the education market, and a
bunch of other markets, limiting individual freedom.

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They want to replace individual responsibility with
social responsibility. The government will take

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care of you, don't worry about
it, so social responsibility, not individual.

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Thirdly, they like taxes to go
up because some people aren't paying quote

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their fair share. We want taxes
to go up, and they're trying to

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raise taxes wherever possible, so they
want higher rates of taxation. And fourthly,

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they want enlarge role for government,
where the government's evolved in virtually everything,

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so it goes against the principles that
made this country great. That's why

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we have a lot of the inflation
problem. The economy is about to likely

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go into recession shortly. And when
you end up with a stagnant economy and

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still having inflation, that's a stagflation
problem. We haven't seen that really since

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the end of the nineteen seventies exactly. Well, Michael, the government says

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they will take care of you until
you become a burden, because we've we've

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seen that in other countries that are
Marxists or socialist. You know, if

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Margaret Thatchers says, all's well until
you run out of other people's money.

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And at thirty three trillion dollars,
I mean, we may be getting to

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that point because you know, as
you and I discussed before, maybe it's

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just a you know, interest rate
hike, there's some other you know,

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calamity of an international level that affects
the economy. I mean, we could

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be in serious trouble here really quick. You know, we certainly can.

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The public debt now exceeds thirty three
trillion dollars. The economy GDP will be

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about twenty four trillion. So most
economists would say, if you keep the

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public debt under one year's GDP can
probably handle it significantly over that, and

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that's causing problems. What are the
problems. There are two problems. One,

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you have to pay interest on that
debt, and when the government incurs

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a deficit, they sell a ten
or twenty year bond. What happens when

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those bonds mature and have to get
paid back, they don't have the money

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to pay it back, They sell
new bonds to pay back the old bonds.

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They roll over the debt, and
that's what we used to call a

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Ponzi scheme exactly. And the problem
is much of that debt was taken out

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when interest rates were one one and
a half percent. Now they're three to

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four percent, so you're replacing that
and interest rates are going to go up.

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This year, interest charges will be
nearly half a trillion dollars, about

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five hundred billion dollars. As we
continue to accumulate debt and roll it over,

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the interest charges are going to end
up being a one trillion dollars a

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year. You have a five roughly
five and a half six trillion dollar budget.

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That's taken a big chunk out of
the budget, and it's money that

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we can't use for something else.
Let me add one more thing. With

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that public debt, we're stuck in
a very deep hole. The first thing

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you do when you're stuck in a
deep hole is to stop digging. Exactly

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what we have to do is somehow
reduce this deficit and try to balance the

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budget. If we can't quite balance
it, get the deficit down as large

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as possible. In the next couple
of weeks, it will probably be a

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lot of discussion about doing that and
raising the public the public debt and perhaps

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avoiding a government shutdown. Well,
we're talking about doctor Michael Bustler, the

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public policy analysts and economics professor Michael. In my humble opinion, I don't

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see us being able to dig ourselves
out of this debt when the Democrats are

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in leadership and they're in charge.
They just do not have the capacity.

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And I'm not sure even the Republicans
do because unfortunately, what has happened on

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the Beltway is we have a uniparty
that is formed. I mean, you

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can't really even believe much anymore in
the R or the D that precedes the

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name of the elected official. They
seem to be focused on another agenda.

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I think of all things being equal
because of the potential. I just believe

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the incredible potential of you know,
what do we have to do three hundred

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and fifty sixty million Americans here.
I just believe in the potential. My

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hope is in the American people that
given the opportunity like we had, you

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know, two three years ago,
we could possibly make a dent and start

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to dig our way out of this
mess by doing GDP numbers that are reflective

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of the potential of the citizenry of
this country. I mean, if we

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bear down, bring some of this
manufacturing back to the country again, become

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energy and dependent, become a net
exporter of natural resources and gas and oil,

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Michael, I mean, we could
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a service to the world as we
have been, because you imagine with those

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kind of resources. There's a lot
of our former allies have are gravely disappointed

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because they can no longer count on
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Afghanistan, but all these other goofy
policies that has sent them to the arms

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of the Russians or you know,
to Venezuela or some other uh some some

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other country that is not necessarily going
to think in their best interests. Yeah,

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and that's the problem. That the
key here that you mentioned is energy

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independence. Yes, if we can
get that, energy independence will get the

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price of energy down. And not
only doesn't that just doesn't mean you pay

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less for gasoline and heating oil,
but all of the energy to power the

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manufacturing industry becomes less less expensive.
And as that happens, it puts downward

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pressure on price and it will stop
a lot of this inflation. And then

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from a geopolitical standpoint, we don't
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that I think is extremely important.
We don't have to be relying on anyone

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for energy, and we have enough
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And you know, the other thing
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President Biden tapped into the strategic Oil, taking about half of it. Now

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at some point we're going to have
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very expensive. Much of the oil
that was in there we bought at a

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negative price because we didn't pay for
it. It was a negative Why was

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it that they paid us this historic
when the pandemic hit and all the economies

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of the world shut down, These
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they need to dump them, empty
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Nobody was buying the oil. The
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one time it got down to minus
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would pay you thirty seven dollars a
barrel to take the oil. Well,

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Trump said, I'll take all that
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replenished the strategic oil reserve with oil. Not only didn't we pay for they

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paid us to take. He Biden
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he's got it. At some point
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And now oil is up over ninety
dollars a barrel exact oil producing The oil

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producing nations want the price to get
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so when that gets replenished, it
will be extremely expensive. And without us

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producing energy, we have no control
over what happens with the rest of the

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world markets, and those energy prices
are going up already. Oils up to

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about ninety four dollars a barrel.
If you bought gasoline in the last month

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or two, you know you're paying
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National average number four dollars a gallon. Michael's up to four dollars a gallon,

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and that just see people have to
buy energy. You know you need

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energy. Now you can cut down
someone and you're driving if you can.

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But for the most part, our
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our car from one place to another. I saw one study of Harvard professor

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did It said the greatest factor getting
people out of poverty is access to an

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automobile so that they can drive and
go where opportunity exists. With high energy

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prices and with automobiles, we're in
the midst of a labor strike here,

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automobile costs are going to go up. And with the administration pushing electric vehicles,

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which are much more expensive than gas
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Now people can't get a car,
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afford the gas exactly where they're not
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Now, I want to go back
to what you talked about, and that

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was the decision by President Biden to
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The timing of That is quite curious. It's beyond curious. It's obvious

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he did it for the midterms.
It was a political decision. Now,

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what all Americans need to keep in
mind that strategic oil reserve is sacrosanct.

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That is there in case of a
national emergency, God forbid we go to

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war some other you know, national
emergency would take place to where we would

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need access to this fuel, not
because Joe Biden needed votes or the Democratic

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Party needed votes. That's what they
used it for. And I'll tell you

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if that doesn't make you mad as
hell, I don't know what else it's

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going to take. Because we've been
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of the policies of this single president. And I say to the American people,

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as I said early on, Michael, this is not your fault.

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You didn't do this. Joe Biden
did this. Okay, Joe Biden,

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the Democrats and their policies have done
this to us. And you cannot forget

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that that at every turn it was
purposeful and it wasn't a mistake. It

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wasn't an accident. This has been
done by design to put the American people

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in pain so that big government would
come in and be the solution, be

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the savior of the very problem that
they created for us. And that's been

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the government, the Democratic Party's playbook
really for many, many, many years,

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eat as they end up causing these
problems, and then bring the federal

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government into solve these problems. The
thing with energy. So you say,

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why did President Biden do this?
So some reason he would argue that the

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there's climate change, it's an existential
threat if we and it's all caused by

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the use of fossil fuels and the
carbon emissions, and if we don't do

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something to stop it today, we're
going to end up not having clean,

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clean air to breathe. Now that
they've they've been saying this for over twenty

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years, Michael. You know,
it's like everything was supposed to be melted.

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The East and West coast should be
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with all their predictions. This is
all based on false theory. I mean,

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we've had a recent report from sixteen
hundred scientists and Nobel Prize winners too

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have said that, you know,
the theories that Joe Biden and the United

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Nations are pushing on the world is
a bunch of bunk. You know,

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and this isn't the first time this
kind of thing has happened. I'm old

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enough to remember. Back in the
early nineteen seventies, the scientists got together

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and they concluded in fifty years the
Earth would experience an ice age, and

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when that ice age occurs, we're
gonna have all kinds of problems. Well,

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obviously that didn't happen. Then in
the eighties there were theories the population

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is growing faster than our ability to
produce food, so people are going to

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start starving to death. Well that
didn't happen either. Now they've been on

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this climate change and there Look.
Look, the reality is that the climate

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has been changing for thousands of years. I mean, the climate just changes.

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The Biden argues it's mostly caused by
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carbon dioxide that it expews. Fourth, there's a lot of scientific, as

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you point out, opinion that says
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to destroy the entire economy because it's
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We have to find a compromise position, and I think we were trying to

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do that. Under the Trump administration. Our carbon emissions were going down even

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though our energy production was going up. So there is a compromise position here.

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We can reduce carbon emissions without hurting
the economy. And Michaels doesn't want

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to hear it. Help me out
here, how do you compromise with stupid?

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I mean, I mean help really, I mean that sincerely. I

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mean I have a granddaughter. She's
being indoctrinated. And I was talking to

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her and she said she wanted to
become an ecologist when she grew up.

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Of course, the flag went up
immediately, and I said, well,

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okay, so help me understand.
Do you believe that climate change is man

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made and man caused? And she
didn't hesitate, said right away, I

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said, okay, So I didn't
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at that point she's been well indoctrinated
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system, and uh, you know, she she was not open, and

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it was okay, I was going
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I love her, and uh,
I know at some point in her

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experience she will grow up, you
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because we've all, you know,
during our our teen years and as we

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were growing up, we bought into
some pretty silly theories that she'll recall.

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But you know, experience defines preference, and I know that eventually she'll come

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to the reality. But you know, the thing is is that we need

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to be vigilant about where we get
our information when you have a government that

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is using the people's money to pay
for biased reporting from scientists, And how

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dare these scienceists sell their souls out? You know? And and it's and

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I do blame them. I can't
say that I don't blame I blame them

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because they have made a decision to
surrender their intellect in order to go along

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with this bow narrative so that they
can continue to collect on government dollars,

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which is the people's tax money,
to try to convince us that, you

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know, the global warming is an
issue. Yeah, you know, Bill,

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you bring up a real good point
where our educational system, it's our

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tax tax dollars that pay for that, and as taxpayers, we should have

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at least some say in what where
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The cost to educate students keeps escalating
and their quality of the education,

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as measured by the test scores,
keeps declining. I live in New Jersey.

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It costs over twenty thousand dollars a
year to educate a student in New

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Jersey. I mean that's more than
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So something's out of whack here,
and they keep asking for more fun

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and more resources and higher salaries and
they're simply not doing the job they're supposed

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to do. Equally bad is higher
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was started as a liberal arts college, so as a result, they're still

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very liberal arts oriented. Well,
I get some of my students, particularly

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undergraduates. They're so indoctrinated into a
certain way of thinking that it just baffles

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me. The purpose of higher education
is to learn certain things, but primarily

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you want to teach students critical thinkings
exactly so that they can figure things out

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for themselves. I tell my students
I don't do it anymore. But I

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used to teach a course in argument
and persuasion that took a look at different

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points of view. Whenever I brought
anything up the liberal position, ninety percent

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of the class favored the liberal position. And I said to them, listen,

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you've got it that that may be
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that, you have to take a
look at the other side and see what

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makes sense. These professors I think
are doing and they're my colleague, so

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I hesitate to say this, but
I think they're doing a tremendous disservice to

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the student by putting forth just one
side of an argument. Whatever of course

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they are, Michael, I mean, the bottom line is that, like

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you said, the number one objective
is to teach kids how to think,

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to exercise critical thinking, because that
is the that is foundational to the advancement

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and the growth of Western civilization.
What they should do is they should present

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both sides of an argument and then
say to the student, you figure it

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out, what side do you think
makes the most sense, and then when

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you go to vote and vote for
candidates that support the view that you think

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makes makes the most sense, well, bring but bring your argument back to

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class so we can talk about it, so we can debate about it.

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Because that's the American idea, This
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our number one amendment of our Constitution
is freedom of speech, because it advances

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the intellect. If wherever you take
away the freedom of speech, you purposely

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dumbed down the constituency, don't you. That's exactly right. In the undergraduate

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classes in particular, I bring up
some discussion and I say, look,

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what's the primary function of business.
The primary function, I say to them

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is to make a profit. Some
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have. So I ask the students
what they think, and they say,

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no, that's not right. Business
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be concerned with the employees that work
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They should be concerned with what the
customers want. And I say, they

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have to do that if they're going
to be profitable. But let the market

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decide. So if business does something
and the market says and the market doesn't

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buy it, then business says it's
not profitable, they aren't going to make

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it any right, exact. But
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this stuff, it's really counterproductive to
making an efficient and growing economy. Well

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again again, this is what drives
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in. It's all based on theory, you know, diversity, equity,

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inclusion, all theory. Okay,
well, how's that working out? It

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didn't take long, you know,
In the last couple of years now you're

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starting to see where corporate America is
trying to find a way to get unhinged

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from it. I mean it is
a little bit of a dance because the

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d EI acolytes have ingrained themselves in
corporate America. So all they can do

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is if they had a staff of
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d I d EI agents, you
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where maybe they have three or four, so they're still there. You know,

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they're like cocker roaches that have grown
another head. They somehow can survive

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everything. But this is a mess. I mean that we, you know,

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I find ourselves here in modern America
that we're willing to just let go

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of the empirical evidence and proven his
historical lessons that we've learned over the past,

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Michael, and surrender them to this
theoretical idea that ends up costing America,

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whether it's Disney losing you know,
billions of dollars bud Light, look

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at the mess they got themselves into
Target. I mean, there's such a

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long and growing list of you know, corporate America types that decided to go

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woke and go broke, you know, and it's terrible, and you're right

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at is changing it. You know, I'm going through something right now.

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We have to hire a new faculty
member. Now, as far as I'm

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concerned, I want to get the
best quality person. I don't don't care

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what color is skin is. I
don't care what gender the person is.

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I don't care what he identified fies
with. All I care about is getting

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the most qualified, financed professor on
the faculty. The university has on the

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search committee what they call a search
advocate, and search advocate, make sure

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that you're looking at all genders,
make sure you're looking at all races,

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make sure you're looking at everything equally. I'm afraid I'm going to end up

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hiring somebody that fits checks the boxes
that they want, but is not the

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best quality professor. And you just
can't keep doing that if you're interested in

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turning out the best quality student.
And this happens in business all the time.

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They have all these diversity goals,
and look, I've seen the studies,

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and the studies say that a more
diverse workforce tends to work better,

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is what this. Studies say.
Diversity tends to be a good thing,

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and it probably is. But the
thing is when you go to hire people,

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you can't hire somebody just based on
their skin color or the exactly tender.

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You have to base hiring on the
best qualifications to get the best person

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who will give our students the best
education, and that benefits us and it

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benefits the student. They don't seem
to see it that way. See what

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they failed to look at is leadership, Michael. Leadership sets the tone.

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Yes, I've gone into some organizations
that are rather diverse, but it starts

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a top and it isn't anything that's
legislated. It's just in the personality of

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the leader themselves that doesn't look at
people's skin color. They just look at

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it as hey, are we winning
or losing? You know, are you

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doing the job? I mean it's
like, you know, when I was

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a kid growing up, Michael,
you know, and our little league teams,

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you know, we had minorities playing, you know, and I didn't

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even think about the minority. I
didn't know that they were minorities until I

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went to colleague, you know exactly. It was like it was insane.

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All I cared was, hey,
could you hit the ball? If I

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throw the ball, team you could
catch you and tack the guy out.

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Hey, you got the same color
uniform I do. We're on the same

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team. Hey, it's all good, man. I go to college and

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all of a sudden, I'm supposed
to have this different perspective because you know,

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a guy grew up with his black
You gotta be flipping kidding me.

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Yeah, you know, it's not
so bad now because I'm a full professor

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with tenure and I'm a senior faculty
member. But when I was in my

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junior years and before I had tenure, I had to hold my tongue.

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I bet whenever I remember Lewis a
discussion back in twenty ten on Obamacare,

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and I had what my views are. I couldn't put my views forth because

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they were very much in favor of
even going further socialized medicine. If I

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started to talk about some of the
negatives with that, my wife's Canadian,

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I see with this social socially,
yeah, exactly right, So I know

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exactly how how it works. But
I couldn't speak any of that. And

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if I did, you know,
people have looked down on me. And

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you know, is this the kind
of guy we won on our faculty.

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We better not give me a tenure
even after I got tenure, when I

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applied for for certain things, there
were a lot of faculty members that just

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didn't approve of anything I did,
and I couldn't get anything. I stopped

448
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applying for anything simply because I didn't
follow what they believed things should should be.

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I was looking for freedom, and
I was looking freedom of expression,

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freedom of the press, and I
was always looking for the highest quality person,

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regardless of any physical characteristics. What
do they think about the Constitution,

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Michael? This past weekend we celebrated
Constitution Day. I mean, is it

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just a worthless document to them?
You know? It's funny. I asked

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them about that, and they said, well, the Constitution was written hundreds

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of years ago. It should be
a living and they use the word a

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living document that gets changed over time
as things changed. Now there have been

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amendments to the Constitution, and we
understand that. But even with that,

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there's certain parts of the Constitution that
really don't quite apply today like they used

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to. They write the bear arms, was you know something you're worried about

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back in the seventeen hundreds. You
don't need to write the bear arms today.

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So tell those tell those families on
the southern border. They're being threatened

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every day with illegal migrants coming through
their property. Right, yeah, you

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know that whole immigration problem. I
was listening to this morning to Merrick Garland

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testifying, and they line came along
the bottom four thousand people in El Paso,

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Texas, I think it was.
We're caught today exactly four thousand people

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just today, and then they just
catch them and release them in the society.

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And now you have them all over
the place. Look at New York.

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Come back and come back in eight
years. You'll have a meeting in

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eight years. I mean, you've
you probably have scored yourself a wife along

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the way, or maybe you brought
one with you, and she's bared three

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kids. So now we've got three
additional citizens that we didn't bargain for in

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this program. And now the father
or the mother is illegal. They can't

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pass the test, and so we're
going to kick them out of the country,

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but their kids are going to stay
here. Right. You can't kick

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somebody out of the country who's got
three kids. That's just an inhumane thing

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to do. So they come in, they have kids, the kids are

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American citizens, and they think that's
their ticket to staying here because nobody who

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has any kind of a heart would
try to deport a parent. Of course,

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00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:58.039
the kid is still here. We
really need to do something as soon

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as possible. Really, I mean, this thing is to me, there's

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constitutional grounds here, Michael, that
the President of the United States majorcists has

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ignored. You know, the number
one job of government, and that is

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national security, to protect its citizens. You have illegal migrants coming in who

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have sworn in allegiance to the cartel. In fact, they've even paid for

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that allegiance, and they're coming in
to do the cartel's bidding, whether it's

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human trafficking, funneling drugs into this
country. We just had yesterday what a

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one year old at a daycare center
die because they came in contact with ventanyl.

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Yeah, it's absolutely horrible the amount
of drugs coming across the border.

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And Secretary Majorcas testifies in front of
Congress the border is secure. Oh my

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goodness, heard him say it three
times, two different occasions. The border

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is secure. I wish somebody would
just ask him, what's your definition of

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a secure border? Exactly? Well, it's clear that you know, our

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definition and his definition of border secure
are two different things. And like we

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said earlier, Michael, this isn't
by accident. They're doing this on purpose.

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And again I tell the American people, it's not your fault. But

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you know, we have to act. We've got to put pressure on this

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government because something's going to give.
I mean, look what's happening in New

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York, Michael. I mean the
people are up in arms, eight million

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people and they got what one hundred
thousand plus they here. They are bragging

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about, oh, we're a sanctuary
city. Well, now you know what

501
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:45.079
a sanctuary city looks like. And
you can't even handle the massive humanity that

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you've invited. And now what are
they doing. They're looking to the Feds

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that will actually looking to us as
taxpayers to pay for the problem that they

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created. And what about everywhere else
in the country Texas, Texas, the

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00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:06.000
New York was worried about one hundred
thousand people. Texas must have a million

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00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:10.519
people or more coming through there that
they have to do something about. And

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they're not really getting any help from
the federal government. This is something the

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00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:20.639
border wall should have been finished.
We would have been able to keep illegal

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migrants out. Look. Look,
this country was foreigned with immigrants. My

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parents were immigrants, but they came
into the country legally. Legally. The

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US allows over a million people to
come into the country legally. That's more

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than every other country in the world
combined. Exactly. Well, we're very

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welcoming, but we have to limit
it. There's only something. Let me

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tell you this. You bring up
a good point. We have a million

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people every year. They're allowed to
come into the country legally. They are

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sponsored so that they're they're not any
liability whatsoever at taxpayer. What a novel

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concept, right, And they're probably
thinking, gosh, man, what am

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I doing. I'm coming here legally. Maybe I had to do an in

519
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.880
run like everybody else, and I
get free medicare, I get you know,

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free medical I get free education and
everything. You know. That's better

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I come in legally because here they
come in and they're looking for a job.

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Well, guess what, the legal
migrants are taking up those jobs that

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they would have gotten. Yeah,
and that kind of thing is going to

524
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.159
be worse because these people are going
to try to work somewhere. I think

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the government is even I don't know
where they started giving work permits to some

526
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of them. And I know some
of the Democrats have been advocating that it's

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not a problem now the unemployment rate
is law, and actually more job openings

528
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.719
are unemployed people. But things are
going to change in the very near future.

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And these migrants are willing to work
for a lot less money than Americans

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are and it's gonna well, they'll
they'll work under the table. That's the

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other thing that's shameful. And it's
shameful that the businesses will pay an illegal

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00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.719
migrant under the table. They're not
helping the cause for America here. They're

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contributing to the problem. Michael,
Yeah, they are. Unfortunately, they

534
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.920
say, look, I live in
a short c short town and it's hard

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to get people to work in some
of these in the hospitality industry, there

536
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are illegal immigrants there. And the
business people tell me, I can't get

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anybody else at any wage. Yeah, but pay them a fair wage that

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is commensurate with anybody else that would
be a citizen. Don't go on the

539
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cheap okay. And when you take
advantage of people like that, it's it's

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not right for them individually. And
plus on, you know, when things

541
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:43.440
turn around and you go to hire
somebody, you know, now you're hiring

542
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:47.440
them based on an unlivable wage.
You know, people can't live on fifteen

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00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:53.079
dollars twenty dollars an hour. That's
ridiculous what the Biden administration and biden Omics

544
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:59.559
has done, Michael. Yeah.
Unfortunately, some of these businesses say to

545
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:01.559
me, look, I can't get
anybody, and if I can't get anybody,

546
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.559
my business is going to shut down. The only ones I can get

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00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.000
are illegal immigrants, and I'm now
forced to break the law because I have

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to pay them under the table.
But my survival depends on it. So

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we've created a very difficult, bad
situation. The sooner we can get to

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fixing this, the better. The
problem is, the Biden administration just continues

551
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to ignore it. As I said, four thousand people I saw on TV

552
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came exactly across in El Paso,
Texas just today. Well, what are

553
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:37.599
we talking is administration somewhere estimated five
to seven million in the illegal That's what

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I've seen about. Yeah, I've
seen it's a huge number. And like

555
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you said, you know, like
anything, the longer you wait to fix

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the problem, the more complicated it
becomes. You Like we were talking about

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00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.360
eight years later, we got two
three anchor babies that are now involved in

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the situation. You've got people who
are beholding to the cartels there. Well,

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00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:07.679
they're well entrenched in the business of
the cartel industry within within the supply

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chains throughout this country. I was
looking at a map here recently Michael and

561
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:16.840
has showed where the cartels where their
tentacles have moved into just about every state

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of the Union. I mean,
think about that, you know, sex

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trafficking. That was the other thing
too that I was reading an article here

564
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that what's happening is this is you
know, this really says about the type

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of person who's coming into the country. Sadly, is that people are being

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sent into the country. Parents are
sending their daughters into the country knowing they're

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going to be sex trafficked, with
this hope that once they get into America,

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they will be the hook and the
string that will draw them into the

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country because then they will be sponsored
by their daughter who is being used in

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human sex trafficking. And if that
daughter lives long enough to be able to

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do that. The parents are are
so desperate and they're so a moral to

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do that to their own children because
to think that, you know, they

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could likely be dead by the time
you become a citizen of the United States.

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Somehow that makes sense that in their
you know, in their world.

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To me, I think that is
uh, You've got to be morally bankrupt

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to think that. Yeah, And
the Democrats say, well, look,

577
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these are poor people, they really
need help. They're living in very difficult

578
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situations. We should let them all
in. Look, I'm very sympathetic to

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all those people too. There are
people all over the world like that exactly,

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and there's way ways to help them
without compromising. You know, the

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goose that's laying golden eggs here.
You know, that's a simple That's a

582
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.599
simple answer is saying, oh,
yeah, we'll just let them in here.

583
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.400
That's that's a simple. But that's
not the right solution. Why do

584
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.760
you want them to leave, you
know, two thousand and three five thou

585
00:46:54.880 --> 00:47:00.239
eight thousand miles away from home to
come here to the United States when their

586
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.320
culture and everything that they're familiar with
is eight thousand miles away. Michael,

587
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.719
Look, we're sympathetic to whatever problems
they have, but it looks like the

588
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people that are coming in are not
just people from South America that are in

589
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:17.840
difficult situations. We're getting people from
all over the world, Russians and Chinese

590
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and understand, and all these people
are coming say hey, you just have

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to get to Mexico and you can
walk into the US and they'll they'll let

592
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you come in. And the Democrats
are happy to let them in and go,

593
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.079
wait a minute, we we just
you remembered nine to eleven. It

594
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took nineteen people to do all the
damage they did in two thousand and one.

595
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:44.480
And we know at least there's been
over two hundred known terrorists on the

596
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.280
watch lists. We're not even counting
the gotaways. We don't even know who

597
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:52.239
they are and what they're all about. But we've got two hundred Manchurian candidates

598
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.440
so to speak, that are,
you know, to the ready to do

599
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.760
some serious damage on our country.
You know. I hope the American public

600
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really wakes up to all this by
the next election. We can't afford to

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have Biden and the Democratic policies go
another four years. It will destroy the

602
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country. I wrote a column when
Biden first got into office. I said,

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if he implements all of these policies, it will destroy the country.

604
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He's implementing them, and it is
destroying the country. I hope Americans when

605
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they go to vote, look away
from the Democratic Party and look towards some

606
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.000
of the more sensible positions of the
Republican Party, because four more years of

607
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:45.239
this kind of philosophy and these policies
will really wreck havoc with the country.

608
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.519
Now we talk about these migrants,
well, a lot of these migrants are

609
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.559
children, So now they have to
be put into schools. Some of them

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00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:59.760
don't speak English. So now you're
going to hurt the American students who have

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00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:04.360
the immigrants. They're going to go
further, They're going to go further down

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the list in terms of how well
the educational system is doing, because this

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is impossible. You're putting an incredible
amount of andditional weight on public school teachers

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that are already they're already overwhelmed with
what they're dealing with right now, Michael,

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to your point, Michael, we
got to leave it there is always

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cannot thank you enough for you know, coming on the show and being able

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to exercise critical thinking and also to
exercise our number one amendment, our first

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amendment of our constitution, freedom of
speech. Thank you Michael for being with

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us. Thanks for having me,
Bill, It's always my pleasure to look

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forward to doing it again. You
got it always. Our thanks to doctor

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Michael Bustler for being with us today
for more information and to be a part

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of this mighty movement. So return
to God and to save our country.

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Check it out Bill martinashow dot com. May God bless you and keep you,

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and make his face shine up up
on you. May He be gracious

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unto you and give you peace.
Thank you so much for being with us.

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Have a great day.