July 14, 2025

American Law vs. Globalist Barbarism

American Law vs. Globalist Barbarism

Anton Chaitkin, Historian and Author of Who We Are: America's Fight for Universal Progress, from Franklin to Kennedy: Volume II - 1830s to 1890s. An AUTHENTIC American nationalist champions the scientific progress and high living standards of all aspiring nations, against the arrogance of globalism to set rules for the world. At the heart of our national crisis lies the critical distinction between globalism and globalization.

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Hello and welcome. I'm Bill Martinez. Good to have you

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with us here. I'm Bill Martinez Live. We're going to

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talk American law versus globalist barbarism, and you know it's

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going to be a bit of an opportunity here to

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again review the meaning of words and where we are

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today and how the language has influenced our perspective and

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really distorted so much of what's going on in the

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body politic today. And Antonin Schenkin, I tell you he's

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been such a breath of fresh air for me, having

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been on our daily show on several occasions, and I

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had to have him on this show to where we

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could have a little bit more time to go into detail.

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Anton is a historian and author of two books, actually

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more books than that, but two in particular that we're

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going to focus on, titled Who We Are America's Fight

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for Universal Progress From Franklin to Kennedy Volumes one and two,

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which takes us from the early years back in the

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seventeen hundreds and then picks up from eighteen thirty to

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eighteen ninety. It is America's Fight for Universal Progress from

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Franklin to Kennedy. That's volume one, the seventeen fifties, eighteen fifties,

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and boy, I'll team. If you have any desire to

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understand what's going on in our country today, you must

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you must look at history, because we just didn't happen here.

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I mean, this has all been a progressive evolution, I

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might say, on where we find ourselves today and so ununited.

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When initially we got together and we seemed a distinct

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majority of people were on board to move us in

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the direction of unity. But right now the battle rages.

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So Antonine Schaikin, I want to bring you on right now,

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and ladies and gentlemen welcome. Anton Chakan, the historian and

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author that I've been bragging about. And I tell you

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it's such an honor and pleasure to have you on

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the show here Anton, Thank.

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You so much. Bill, Yeah, good to be here.

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Well. And you have you know, quite the history.

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You know.

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Not only are you an author, you know your father.

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You come from a legacy, you know, considering you know

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your father and New York attorney who fought in courts

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to break Wall Street and London London sponsorship of Adolf

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Hitler's dictatorship in Germany. Yes, you heard that right. Many

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of the lawsuits were against international Nazi interests managed by

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Prescott Bush, the father and grandfather of the two Bush presidents.

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Of course, a book that you wrote about George Bush Senior,

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the Unauthorized Biography, which was probably the only serious Bush

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Senior book, which helped defeat Bush's nineteen ninety two re

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election attempt, right it did.

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It's too bad what happened with the next president turn

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out to be Bill Clinton. But the problem we're facing

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with the Bush family and with the bank they worked for,

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the Harriman Bank and Morgan and all those New York

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and their affiliated London mother banks, is that they represent

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a faction that was opposed to the American Revolution. These

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are Americans or people in London during the time of

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our revolution. And these are Americans who stayed here even

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though they were opposed to the country, and they were

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in Boston, or they were in South Carolina places like that.

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These are the Tories, and this faction are the imperial faction.

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They were the slave owners and others, and they are

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the ones that have always pushed for foreign wars which

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would be opposed to the interest of the country, like

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the invasion of Mexico, for example, or the invasion of

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the Philippines. They were not on the side of the Union.

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And these are the wars. But let's look at the

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real heart of this issue, and that is the ability

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of the United States to take its place in the

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world as a great eight manufacturing power, with science and

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high skills for its population, and with a whole large

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population that was all on board, as you said, behind

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national purposes. You need strong borders for that, But that's

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not the real issue. Is the kind of a nation

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that you're building that's capable of having tremendous manufacturing power

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and science power. Later on the space programs like that.

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The other faction the imperial faction, the British Empire have

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always opposed this kind of civilization.

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And now that the rest that that the world is

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moving fast towards every country either being an advanced country

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or having the capability of becoming an advanced and developed country.

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These horrifying characters in the in the in the globalist

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established where the enemies of our country, they are moving

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for wars and other measures of chaos that will, in

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their interest, in their hope, will destroy the present civilization

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as we know it. They don't. They do not agree

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with advanced industrial civilization. They want to go back to

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a chaotic and weakened state for mankind and a smaller population.

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Well, it's kind of a different form of slavery, is

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it not. I mean, it's kind of one size fits

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all type of governance.

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Yeah, that's what they want, but they do not so

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on our side. The people that developed our country, as

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I've shown in these in the histories, the New History

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of the Country that i'm the first two volumes, third

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volume out, well, I'm going to be working on now

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twentieth century. The people who developed our country and it's

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power were nationalists, and they were also looking for universal

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progress that means for all mankind. They helped other countries,

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countries like Japan, Germany, Russia, They tried to help China,

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they went for they even tried they tried to help

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Mexico later on. They were in the twentieth century. We're helping,

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We're looking to help Iran and other countries like that.

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And so the issue is, are our country and other aspiring,

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upward rising countries as we rose, have to work together

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against this imperial power, this globalism. And so this is

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the issue now before us. If we allow these globalists

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now to put us back on the road to nuclear

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war as we were going under Biden, you were headed

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for nuclear war with Russia, but also for nuclear war

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with Iran and nuclear war with China. All of those

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things were being pushed by the globalists running the government

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when Biden was president, you know, and again when Trump

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is president and he's not existing them like he should.

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Yeah, well they thought and they you know, when Trump said,

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you know that Joe Biden was taking us to World

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War three, they thought that Trump was being hyperbolic. But

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I don't think they realized, well, the masses didn't realize

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how close we were.

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That's right. And he was his challenge to the globalist

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establishment in his campaign, not by what he did, but

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what he said and how he rallied people. His challenge

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was on two counts. The first count was stop these wars.

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Shut them down. Shut Down Israel's war against its neighbors.

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That's insane. That's going to lead to World War three too.

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Shut Down the attempt to have a nuclear war with China.

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Where does that lead? That's crazy. The other thing that

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Trump said was We're going to use tariffs to interfere

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with trade in our favor to build up our manufacturing. Now,

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you can't just do it with tariffs, but tariffs are

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historically proven instrument for nationalists to build up manufacturing, along

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with infrastructure sponsored by the federal government and so forth.

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The problem with the way Trump was able to deal

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with these things when he became president is that he

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never went right before the public and said, we need

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a decisive break with the globalist system. Let me tell

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you who the enemy is. Let me tell you about

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the offshore banking system. Let me tell you who really

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controls the drug cartels in Mexico. And it's not some

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cheap gangster in Mexico. These international Banks.

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Let me tell you are the deep state, Anton, because

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we only hear we hear more about the deep state

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than we hear about this globalist dynamic that you're presenting.

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The deep state usually refers to people within our government

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in Justice Department or other agencies or intelligence agencies who

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are who are not elected, and who carry out, you know,

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aims which are opposed to our national interests, but including

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assassinating our presidents.

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Right.

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But this is this is part of a larger a clique,

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a transatlantic clique, especially with this so called special relationship

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with England. How did we get into that by abandoning

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our independence? Especially when Teddy Roosevelt became president, he was

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not the hero that the party leadership make him out

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to be. Teddy Roosevelt said, we need to have English

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speaking peoples rule the world in an empire. Now, what

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does that really mean. It means cancel the declaration of independence.

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It means we don't need to go west and build

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up family farms and and manufacturing in the Western States.

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All we need to do is build a big navy

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and go beat up on some countries overseas, and we

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can let the British Empire give us the the strategy

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for the world, and what's that strategy constant war World

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War one to begin with. Then you then you devise

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other means of crushing Germany and Russia. First of all,

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World War One gives you communism. Yay, that's a new enemy.

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Isn't that wonderful? No, it's not wonderful. Then you then

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you build up Hitler like these guys did on Wall

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Street in London, and then that gives you another world war.

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And that's busy wonderful.

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No, it's not wonderful.

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Yeah, And that's Bush building a Hitler too, right.

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It was that that Bush family. So when our people

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are globalists, not our people gave the hired Osama bin

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Laden to fight communism in Afghanistan in nineteen seventy nine,

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when our people under Reagan without it wasn't Reagan doing

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it was Bush and Ali North and people like that

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in the Reagan administration when they gave arms to the

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Mullus in Iran and got money from that to so

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called fight communism in Central America. What was the result

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of those of those adventures? Was it stability and American interests? No,

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it was calculated to result in chaos and anti American

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sentiment throughout the world. That was the purpose of it.

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So you want to if you want to solve these problems,

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you have to say to yourself, do we really believe

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in the values of the United States and Western civilization?

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First of all, monotheism, what does that mean? It means

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first of all that God created all men, and so

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therefore we are all of one blood. In the world,

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human species is completely different from the animals. We're all

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one blood. So therefore we have the same interests as

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our brothers in every other country. We should have it

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the way that you the way that you are going

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to be fooled as a patriot, where the way the

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globalists will fool you into the trap of war is

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by having you say I will be better off than

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some other country, in which we will try to keep

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them down while we get resources or while we have power.

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You know. The New York Times, in an article a

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couple of days ago, refers to the American empire that's

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being challenged by Iran, Russia and China. We're not an empire.

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If we are, we don't exist as a nation. We

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are going to exist as a nation in the future.

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If we build up our power, to invent, to discover,

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to go into the deep space program, to do nuclear power,

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to do great dams, to do modern steel mills with

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real high temperature processes. And this is our future along

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with other countries in the world. There's no reason we

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can't be friends with Iran, with China, with Russia, with Egypt,

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with Brazil, all of these countries. We have to build

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up our power and that is the secret. The secret

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here is that the globalists are the ones that took

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down the advanced manufacturing capabilities, the advanced power in the US,

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Britain and Germany right, and while they hollowed them out,

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they set up this offshore criminal banking system and to

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be parasites against US all and made rules that say

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that the US will only be able to have any

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influence by making war on other countries instead of being

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the problem solvers as we used to be.

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And how do we decouple ourselves from that anton The.

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First step is that people have to say that they

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want to survive. Right now we're headed towards nuclear war again,

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and so we have to make a decisive break with globalism.

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That means you have to understand what we need, What

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do we need what kind of a working force do

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we need in the United States? Think about it.

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First, we've got to understand the enemy.

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We have done no, no, the enemy. The enemy is global,

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as you can define the intelligence. Israel is part of

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that whole thing with Britain and with corrupted elements in

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our intelligence sector. But the first thing is to understand

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what are our real needs. We need to have a

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massive increase in manufacturing. We need state of the art

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infrastructure infrastructure, we need high speed, modern transportation. We're going

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to have to build nuclear power plants across our country.

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What kind of workforce do we need. They need to

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be literate, they need to be optimistic, they need to

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be large and growing. That means we have to decide

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that there was a terrible mistake made when we took

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the advanced heavy industry down in the nineteen seven in

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these and agies. That was a terrible thing to do

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to our country.

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Right and to our people and the deal. This is

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when you go back, let's rewind to the very beginning

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that you introduced this whole topic. Is that you know,

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we broke away from America, broke away from the European idea,

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and all of a sudden we had, we had all

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these people that had this pent up energy, and I

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think we got a little bit of a taste of

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it here recently after Barack Obama. Barack Obama had really

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put a lid on the productivity of America at large.

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When Donald Trump came in, he unleashed it. He took

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the lid off, and look what happened. Our productivity went

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through the roof. Barack Obama was predicting, you couldn't do

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You know, you're not going to do better than two

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percent GDP. Trump said, hey, I think we could do

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four or five percent, and Obama laughed at him. He

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just didn't believe it. But to your point, we've got

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all this brilliance and potential within America, three hundred and

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fifty million Americans. If we're unleashed, well, I'll tell you

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we are a force to contend with and a force

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not to contend with others in an adversarial manner. I

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agree with you, but in a way that will help

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others and all in the name of God who created

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this popcorn stand.

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To begin with, let me see if we can define

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the problem between in the terms of the United States

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and Mexico okay, all right. In the late nineteen seventies

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early nineteen eighties, there was a president of Mexico, Jose

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Lopez Portillo po Rtillo. He proposed that Mexico should build

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nuclear power plants and he was active on that. He

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proposed that they should have scientific, modern manufacturing and scientific

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agriculture with tractors, the whole thing industrialized, have a high

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wage economy, use their oil. Along with Venezuela, which then

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was not controlled by leftists, the two countries would help

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to develop the other countries of Latin America. And so

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this is before we had a major drug culture in

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the United States. So what happened The United States was

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taken down after the murder of Kennedy, right, taken down

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by these globalist strategy, and Mexico was prevented from industrializing

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the way that they wanted to and they should have.

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The globalist strategy was enunciated by Henry Kissinger. He said,

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flat out, what did he say, we do not want

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a Japan south of the border? Why not would that

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be bad for us to have a high wage modern

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country down there if they're industrialized and the people have

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a tremendous stake in building a future because they're they're

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they're getting a good living. They want to day in

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their country. They don't need to swarm across the border

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in desperation to try to find a better life. In

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that case, who is going to be a cow cowing

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and bowing down to the drug cartels. We are not.

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If we could be rebuilt in the right way, then

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our people would not be drug addicted as they became

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after we lost our industrial base. Both countries are going

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to sink or swim together on the basis of modern

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high wage industry. So we there was a terrible deal

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that was proposed by the Rhino Republicans and was put

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in put through by Bill Clinton called NAFTA. What was

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that free trade, cheap labor. We're going to get pop

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labor out of Mexico, take down the border, and make

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sure that nobody makes a good living. Who does that benefit.

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I'll tell you who it actually benefited. It benefited the

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largest banks in the United States and Britain. These are

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basically British banks like the HSBC bank that control the

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drug cartails that laundered their money. That's who benefited. And

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they also laundered money for the terrorists in the Middle East,

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Osama bin Laden al Qaeda. Why what is their objective?

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As I said to begin this, they are looking to

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take down the kind of industrial civilization that has been

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building up since about the seventeen eighties, at the time

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of the American Revolution, when we had the steam engine

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and so forth. That helped the British Empire for a while,

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but they saw that they could not really prevent the

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rest of the world from becoming powerful modern countries, and

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they don't want that, so they said, we would rather

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have the end of modern civilization, and that's what they're

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aiming at instead, which includes drug addiction. Look at the

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movie that they put out, the dystopia. All you see

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in these movies in the future, What is it going

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to be in the future? People living after a nuclear

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war some other terrible apocalypse. Why why do it have

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to be like that? That's what our children are being

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taught that you have no possibility of having a modern

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future where all the nations are cooperating to do exciting projects,

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where you make money and you do good business and

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have high skills. That's a much better world, a much

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more stable world. The anime globalists do not want stability

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and that should be our aim. The only way you

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get stability is by having progress. Exactly, you have to stay.

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We're determined that we will survive, and the only way

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to survive is to have a decisive break with these globalists.

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First of all, by saying, anybody that's proposed going back

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to war with Russia and having Israel to keep up

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its wars against Iran and US going to war with China.

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Anybody who proposes that is a snake, who is posing

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as some sort of a conservative. These are the globalist

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enemies of ourselves and mankind.

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How do we handle let's say, not us, but as

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Donald Trump and his team handle Ukraine Russia right now.

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Listen to what they're saying. The Russians are what is

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their objective? They said that we will not allow ourselves

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to be surrounded by NATO. We want to have a

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stability in this region. Why did they go way did

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the Russians go into Syria with their troops? They did

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that before they went into Ukraine. We went in there

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because the British then reinforced by the United States. We're

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attacking one country after another. Remember the Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,

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and other countries. Bombing them, overthrowing and murdering the leaders.

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We would call them terrible dictators. The purpose of that

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it was marching close to the Russian border, and the

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Russian said, well, obviously the next step there is to

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overthrow the government of Russia. Now, you know, we used

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to have people talking about doing that when they had communism.

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What's the excuse for it? Now? Think about what the

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real reason for this is. Why should we have a

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war with Russia? Are they really our enemy? No? Who

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says that they are our enemy? Who says that any

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of these countries should be our enemy. You can be

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a rival in certain ways with countries, but you can

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say that we will do well in this rivalry by

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building up our skills in our power. That's the way

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you handle these things.

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Right, exactly well. And the thing is is that, I mean,

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we have violated so many agreement I say we the

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United States and our policies. I mean, we had an

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agreement with Ukraine they had to surrender their nuclear weapons

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and we're told that, you know, by Bill Clinton, that

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we would protect them with a promise, and look what happened.

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Why don't we just say now that we want to

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guarantee the security of both Russia and Ukraine and forbid

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any attack from either side, and then do the same

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thing between Israel and the neighbors. You have to shut

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this thing down in Israel exactly. Look the wars between

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Israel and the neighbors. What is that really about? If

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an American, I'm going to say something that's pretty tough here,

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if an American were a British person says that bib

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nat in Yahoo or some Israeli settler who is carrying

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out massacres, if he's if an American says that that

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is is a representative of the Jewish faith. To me,

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that is anti Semitism right there, because the Jewish people

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brought help to bring Monotheism to our world. And in

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Monotheism all men are of what brothers. And so therefore,

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if you if you defy God by saying that that

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that really didn't happen, there is no God of that sort,

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that is not You're you're slandering the Jews. And that's

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what bib Nan Yahoo is doing. And we and the

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power behind Israel doing the wrong thing? Is is the

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Anglo Americans and I don't mean America, because is this

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an America's interest. No, is it in anybody's interest in

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that region. No, who's benefiting from it? Only those who

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seek to take down civilization. There's no endpoint. You go

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to war with Iran, what's the endpoint of that war?

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How can you? How can you calm Iran down when

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you know they're shouting, you know, death to Israel, death,

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death to America.

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Okay, let's let's look back at the American Indians when

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they said the death to the white Man. What was

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going on? We were being people in our country. We

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were going into settled Indian villages. I'm talking about agricultural

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villages and carrying out a massacre and stealing the land.

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Did we really need that land to settle the West. No,

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there's vast spaces that we never occupied. R So we

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broke one treaty after another with the Indians. Was it

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necessary for us to build up our power and get

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a great population that overwhelmed the Indians. Yes, that's the

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way we were going to build up the power to

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stand up in the world. But we we should have

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given the Indians when we took away their way of

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life by having this superior technology. We should have given

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them the helping hand to say here's how you could

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join us and thrive in our in our technological civilization.

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We still owe it to them to do that their communities.

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So you don't, you don't. A wise person does not

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react when somebody is shouting something in hostility or despair.

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A wise person goes back to what we did at

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a better time, when we had a better philosophy, when

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we were we were encouraging Iran to take over their

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own resources, when we were encouraging Mexico to do the same,

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takeover their oil away from foreign oil companies. Is that communistic? No,

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it's nationalism. You know what we criticized the Communists for

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under the Soviets was by going into like East Germany

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and taking taking their their machines and taking them back

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to Russia. That's an empire. That's not that's not you know,

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some ideal of leftism. It's just it's just stealing. So

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what when a country, every country has the right and

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really the duty to its own citizens to advance. If

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we stand up for that right in Iran and don't say, well,

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we're going to bomb you until you give up so

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and so give up having nuclear science, we were the

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ones who started nuclear science in Iran Eisenhower's piece Atoms

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for Peace program, Kennedy organized the whole International Atomic Energy

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Agency to carry out joint projects of nuclear power, plants

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for desalinating water, among other things. Right, and to also

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have the kind of agreements to say we don't want

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them to get the nuclear bombs. The public has been

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brainwashed against nuclear power, thinking that if you have nuclear

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power in nuclear science, it automatically means a nuclear.

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Bomb and right, nuclear war.

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They say the same thing against oil and coal, that

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you can't have intensive energy of any kind without it

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destroying the world. Now it's global warming, it's or something else, right,

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But this is an attack against industrial civilization. We have

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the same interests as the as the nation of Iran.

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Don't talk about them. Don't talk about some dictator in

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some country. You have to concentrate on the needs and

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the underlying interests of that nation as a nation. That

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way you can deal with all the countries. Can you

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name a country that has a true republic and democracy?

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What country has that now in the.

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World, Well, we're the closest thing to it.

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Well, we might be if we weren't under globalist rule,

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if we weren't having them. Who runs our intelligence agency,

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who runs the media, it's all an international clique. Who

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runs the academia, who runs our education? Right, who's putting

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us in these wars? That's not legal, that's not American law,

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that's not a constitution. What about the European countries. They're

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under the dictatorship of the European Union and people hate it.

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There are millions of people in Europe, tens of millions

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in Americans, and proud people all over the world who

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are against these wars and are restive against the rule

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of the globalists and believe in national sovereignty. That's what

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we have to address. You have to have the courage

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to have a decisive break with globalism.

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And going back to what you were saying earlier, Inton,

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and you're right, is that the vision, the clear vision

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of this potential concept, this idea, And I just say,

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you know, we realized it early on. We did with

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00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.799
the American dream and the idea that we first started with,

476
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.319
but then we lost our way.

477
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.960
Idea of improvement, improvement and the idea you know, if

478
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.880
the population, we would we should have an educational system

479
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:48.480
that moves people and inspires people to cheer for man's

480
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:54.079
increased control over nature to increase man's power. Right now,

481
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.079
they're being taught the opposite, that we should take down

482
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.519
all the dams, that we should blow up the fact factories,

483
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.160
that we should go to war with any country that

484
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:08.559
tries to increase its power to to to produce and

485
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.079
to have to take a high station in the world.

486
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:17.160
That's wrong, that's a completely wrong idea. That's imperialism. And

487
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:23.519
we the the clear record of our country's history is

488
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:28.640
that when we defied the empire and built up our

489
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:33.720
manufacturing and our great power to produce in many ways

490
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:38.359
and with science, that that this was done by people

491
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.799
of goodwill who were nationalists, and by nationalists, I don't

492
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.000
mean that they were they were wanted to destroy some

493
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:50.000
other country. Hitler was not a nationalist. He's an imperialist,

494
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:55.640
right right, So you can say you can say that

495
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.240
you're you're a nationalist only if you're following in the

496
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:05.799
tradition of the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln. Wanted the

497
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:11.400
other countries to thrive and become powerful by our side

498
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:15.360
so that we could all resist the arrogance of the

499
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:16.320
British Empire.

500
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.440
How could George Washington not see, you know, from this

501
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:25.840
meager military assemblage of farmers in that what we were

502
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.880
able to accomplish and going forward and not how could

503
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.880
he not see how that would transfer to other nations

504
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:36.159
if they themselves were blessed with the opportunity to take

505
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:37.400
self responsibility.

506
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.480
That's the idea. That's the city on the hill. It's

507
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.199
not imposing our way of life on somebody. That's what

508
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:46.519
the Pilgrims were talking about. And there were good people

509
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.960
in Virginia too, Spotswood, the Governor Spotswood, who had the

510
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.719
Knights of the Golden Horseshoe, and that was a group

511
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:58.719
of men that wanted to have Western settlement and good

512
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.480
relations with the Indian. Yes, the British tried to put

513
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.679
the races against each other at all times, and they

514
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.880
try to put nations and religions against each other now

515
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.280
and race nonsense.

516
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.119
Now you mention these bruises that we've had along our

517
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.519
way in our history that need to be reconciled, whether

518
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.639
it's with the Indians or you know, slavery and and

519
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.440
that sort of thing where we stepped out of those

520
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.119
holy rights and uh and morality that were God given

521
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.559
that when we followed God's law. We we did the

522
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:35.880
right thing. We did right by each other. I mean,

523
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:39.000
we had agreements, as you said, with the Indians, we

524
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.599
broke our promises. With Black Americans, we did. And I'm

525
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.039
not saying we should live forever, you know, with that,

526
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:49.239
but we need to reconcile it and move forward. And

527
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.840
I think a lot of ways we have, but there's

528
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.079
still some people that want to continue to scratch that

529
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.639
itch and you know, create this adversarial perception right.

530
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.920
And really learn something that's important for us now by

531
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.119
looking at what was called reconstruction the period after the

532
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.760
Civil War, and they were there were the ones who

533
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:15.079
wanted to really make sure that the freed black people

534
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.440
got their rights. Were the nationalists based in Philadelphia, and

535
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.039
what they wanted to do was to change the South

536
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:28.400
in the interest of the Southern people, black and white,

537
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:33.880
by building industry and using the different kinds of resources

538
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:39.840
in the South, natural resources like coal, an, iron, and

539
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:45.719
water power. And also also to use the people of

540
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.800
the South and make them literate, make them educated, and

541
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.440
to if you change the South and make it a

542
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:59.039
modern industrial area with family farms, you sweep away the

543
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:00.559
old plantation exactly.

544
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.360
And it was already done in the North Anton, right,

545
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:06.519
I mean you had all this going on. That's wrung

546
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.840
and that's and that's really why the North was able

547
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:10.239
to win.

548
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:16.039
But but what happened is that these Northeastern so called

549
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.960
liberal financiers, who some of them had been abolitionists before

550
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.840
the war, but now these are the bankers in Boston

551
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.760
and New York. These are the financiers connected to the British.

552
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:33.239
They did not want to transform the South in this way.

553
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.440
What they wanted to is to continue to have cheap

554
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.800
labor in the South. So you need to continue the

555
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.159
plantation economy and have the blacks be the sharecroppers or

556
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.920
just you know, jail prisoners and work as virtual slaves.

557
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.559
Is that in the interest of the white people of

558
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.440
the South. No, it stayed backward, exactly the interest of everybody.

559
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.480
We in America, just like in UH, the the the

560
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:06.880
are monotheistic religion. Uh. In America, we believe in the

561
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:12.199
harmony of interests between different people from different walks of

562
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:16.639
life and between different countries. Right that all people will

563
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.280
rise if you if you if you're building up the

564
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.599
power to produce and have have good civilization. Exactly what

565
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.719
does the enemy say. The enemy says that if you

566
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:31.480
allow people who are on the bottom of the world,

567
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.159
or the undeveloped, or the underclass people in the in

568
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.039
the in the bottom rungs of society, if you allow

569
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.159
them to rise and get more powerful and more educated,

570
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.840
they will want to kill you. That's what the enemy

571
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:49.920
says that, so therefore you have to keep them down.

572
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:54.519
But who says that? Also the the terroristic leftists, right right,

573
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.519
that's the that's their idea of class struggle. Where does

574
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.480
that come from? It comes from the empires who hire

575
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:05.360
stooges to spout some theory about the necessity of people

576
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:09.039
killing each other because they have clashing interests. They don't

577
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.320
have clashing interests, right, If somebody acts like a tyrant

578
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.760
in a company, like a coal mine owner, if he

579
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.360
acts like a tyrant and tries to smash his workforce,

580
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.760
then yes, they have competing interests between the boss and

581
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.480
the workers. But if you're building a modern, you know,

582
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:32.920
kind of industry with really advanced research going on and

583
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:37.159
advancing wages, don't don't the workers in that industry have

584
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.760
a common interest with the people building the industry. Of

585
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:41.360
course they.

586
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:44.320
Do, absolutely, you know, and to hear the story here,

587
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.360
I flash back to Egypt and what happened. What happened

588
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.360
with the Jews, right, I mean here they are, they're

589
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:57.559
they're becoming prolific, they're they're a force unto themselves. And

590
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.519
the Pharaoh couldn't handle it. He got threatened by he

591
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.320
didn't know how to harness and maximize that human potential.

592
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.000
And what he did he reduced them to slavery and

593
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.239
whatted to do it ended up killing his own you know,

594
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:11.119
his own rule.

595
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:13.320
Yeah, I think you know, if you go back in

596
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.719
Egyptian history, you had two factions there too. You had

597
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.280
the There was a people that are supposed to have

598
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:26.199
been sun worshipers, but they're really worshiping one god similar

599
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.480
to our monotheism. And they were very scientific people. They

600
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:35.599
did astronomy. They they there's even sections of the pyramid

601
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.440
inside the Great Pyramid which are uh uh uh you

602
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:44.079
know tunnels for uh serving the interest of doing astronomy

603
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:49.519
in different ways. So that you had a scientific and monotheistic.

604
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:54.039
Uh uh element and leadership element in Egypt, and you

605
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:58.880
also had people who were bent on war and revenge

606
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.000
and and destroying other cultures.

607
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:06.239
And so in every part of the world. Humanity has

608
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.400
always had this kind of a contest between people that

609
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:15.199
want to build up our our uh looking up and

610
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.719
trying to find out how, what what how God made

611
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.440
this universe? What's it all about? Well, how can we

612
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.480
use it for our betterment? That's one side, versus people

613
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:32.440
who say I am going to to use the weaknesses

614
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:36.199
of other people get them to work for me, to

615
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.760
put the human race under my power or under the

616
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.119
power of my family or my clique. Those are the

617
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:48.360
two different outlooks that I've always been competing. But especially

618
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.079
within the United States. You know, people in foreign countries

619
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.239
don't understand this about the United States, and Americans have

620
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.920
lost this this point, this point of reference, especially since

621
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.519
the murders of the nineteen sixties, where the globalists have

622
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:06.000
tried to wipe out our history because it's a threat

623
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.480
to them. Is actually doing good in the world and

624
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:16.920
fighting them that this imperial faction is murder is doomed

625
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:18.760
for their control over mankind.

626
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:20.679
Well, they've got to be going crazy. I mean, here

627
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.639
we are, we're starting our two hundred and fiftieth year

628
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.559
anniversary recounting history. Oh, this has got to just drive

629
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:28.199
them nuts.

630
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.920
So i'd like to have, you know, I'd like to

631
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:35.840
really have an interaction with this new history of the

632
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.639
country that I've been working on. I'd like to have

633
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.239
an interaction with homeschoolers, in particular, with people that are

634
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:50.920
interested in looking at the precise way that America rose

635
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:57.159
and see that as something that we can repeat under

636
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:01.639
new circumstances and rise again. Right, we have to rebuild

637
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:04.360
the country. It's not just a matter of you know,

638
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.320
building a factory. You really have to rebuild this country. Right.

639
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.800
The thing is good about what you're saying, though, Anton,

640
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:13.360
is that we did it before.

641
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:14.280
That's right.

642
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.559
It's not like we're starting like they did. I mean,

643
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.400
they started with a clean sheet of paper and you know,

644
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.079
from zero, and they were able to build it. So

645
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.360
if we if we look back in history what they

646
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:27.800
were able to do, and as you mentioned, it first

647
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.519
starts with the vision itself and understanding of what we're

648
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.079
trying to do here and holding to that value, which

649
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.760
I think is pretty well stated, whether it's in our

650
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.000
Declaration of Independence in our Constitution. Maybe there's some minor

651
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.599
tweaks in the Constitution, but by and large those are

652
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.000
pretty those are two pretty good documents yeah.

653
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.280
They they established the idea that that the law of

654
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:55.480
a country, uh, and the the the nature of the

655
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.559
country is based on this what what we called natural

656
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.639
natural law, that all men are created equal, that the

657
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:10.119
rights that we have are really rights that belong to

658
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.800
all people God gave, and that we that we will

659
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.679
uh well, we will be able to use self government

660
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:23.360
uh under this kind of a law to to to

661
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.440
increase our status and our stature and our knowledge and

662
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:28.199
our powers.

663
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:29.039
Uh.

664
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.559
And so uh you know, the real the real fear

665
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.400
that people have and and a lot of people are

666
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:42.119
you know, get depressed and demoralized and and stop being activists.

667
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:46.239
The real fear they have is don't they would say,

668
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:52.519
don't the great uh you know, secret powers, the bankers,

669
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:56.280
the the the aristocrats of of the old world, and

670
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.280
and the the intelligence agencies, the cults that they have

671
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:06.239
put together, the secret societies. Don't these this faction have

672
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:14.440
virtual superpowers to keep control over our existence. And what

673
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:20.320
I have to constantly refer people to is that the

674
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:27.119
United States has several times reversed that kind of power

675
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:31.280
over our society and by the same faction. Maybe slight

676
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.599
differences at different times, but it is the same British

677
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:41.079
alliance with their stooges and their partners within the United States.

678
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:48.440
We have defeated them, Yes, not permanently, but enough several times.

679
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.920
We've done this in order to make great advances. And

680
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.679
you know, one of the biggest times is right after

681
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.960
the Civil War, that's in volume two of Who We Are.

682
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:06.599
And we did our huge manufacturing development exactly, built railroads,

683
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:12.199
and we perfected many industries, and we started Edison, started

684
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:17.960
the electrical industry and had to fight Wall Street to

685
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.880
build the first power plants all over the country, and

686
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.039
had partners in other countries who had to fight for

687
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:28.079
this as well, against that imperial power that said no

688
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:32.400
mankind should not have electricity. People will become too ambitious.

689
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.159
They will want to they will want to act as

690
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.719
if they were only a little lower than the angels.

691
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.800
That's not good. They should think of themselves as dirt.

692
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.920
They should think of themselves as groveling peasants. Then we

693
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.199
can control them exactly. Do not be ambitious. That's the

694
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.159
way that this enemy wants us to think. They want

695
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.480
people to be depressed and demoralized. They want people to

696
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:00.639
be drug addicted.

697
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:03.639
So there it's all about again it's all that same,

698
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.440
that same reframe power and control. We've got about a

699
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.480
minute left here. I'm gonna let you some I mean,

700
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:10.599
you've done such a great job on this anson Chak

701
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:13.119
and I I just so appreciate you coming on, and

702
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.119
I'm gonna let you summarize and UH and bring us

703
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:17.480
home here on this deal go ahead.

704
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.840
We have a choice now, which is whether we will

705
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:26.039
allow uh, people who hate the United States and what

706
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.559
it stands for, to put us in war. Right now,

707
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:34.119
they're talking about three different fronts and it's the same war.

708
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.760
Go to the intelligence age, you can go to the

709
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:40.079
corrupted areas of the military. Go to the media that's

710
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:45.400
trumpeting this stuff. Russia, Iran, and China. They're not They're

711
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.360
they're they're not the same. Uh, it's not. They don't

712
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:53.400
have some axis that we have to defeat. What we

713
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.639
have to what we have to see is that the

714
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:02.199
war itself is our problem. That the war itself is

715
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.000
designed by these people, the same way they have done

716
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.920
with all the other wars that we've done since, especially

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since the murder of Kennedy. Is designed to destroy our civilization,

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to destroy America's past and America's power and influence in

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the world. It's designed to wreck civilization and we cannot

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permit it. People who propose these wars are, in my view,

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the worst traders to our country. That's the problem that

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we're exactly well.

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They want us to be less than so that they

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can be more than. That's the dynamic that's going on again.

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Anton Chak and the historian and author of Who We

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Are Volumes one and two books are available. And I'll

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tell you this is something that you really want to

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have with you. You will refer to it constantly. You'll keep

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it by your bedside, I'm sure, and refer to it.

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It is so well done. I just am so grateful

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for you, Anton, for coming on the show. I'm grateful

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for your you know, for your education and your knowledge,

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your your commitment to helping this next generation avoid the

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mistakes that we fell and got trapped in. And there

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is a way out there. There is There is hope

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for us, isn't there.

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I believe there is if you study the history that

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that we've made such beautiful advancements when we stuck to

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our mission right. The mission is improvement embodied in the life.

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I think of Benjamin Franklin, the happiest man on the

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planet because he was involved with improving everything, and he

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had friends who were scientists and admirers of the Americans,

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the colonists who wanted to be free of the British.

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He had friends all over the world just by doing

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the right thing and by exciting investigations of electricity and

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different aspects of nature.

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That's who we are exactly. Well, Anton, we got to

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leave it there. Thank you so much for being with us.

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Take care, God speed, my friend. Thank you, our gratitude

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to Anton Shakin as I mentioned, the historian and author

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of Who We Are America's Fight for Universal Progress From

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Franklin to Kennedy Volume two, and then Who we Are

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America's Fight for Universal Progress From Franklin to Kennedy Volume

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one that takes you from seventeen fifties to the eighteen fifties.

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Well say, a great read and a great refresher for

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a time such as this. Thank you for sharing a

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part of your day with us. I pray that this

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has been beneficial to you, that it is causing you

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and motivating you to do a deeper dive. You know,

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as we say, you must own your own knowledge and

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hopefully We're encouraging you to do that because it is

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important that we do not surrender our intellect and be

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controlled by those whose interests are not consistent with our

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Judeo Christian principles. God bless you. Thank you for being

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with us. May God bless you and keep you. May

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make His face shine upon you. May he'd be gracious

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unto you and give you peace. Take care,