Alex Traiman Jerusalem Bureau Chief Reports on the Latest from the Israel Hamas War

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Radio. Well, hello, and
welcome to the Bill Martinez Show. We

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are live. We're going to be
talking with Alex Drayman, Jerusalem Bureau Chief,

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reporting on the latest from the Israel
Hamas war. We've got, of

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course, the continual reports of international
pressure for a cease fire to hostage negotiations.

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I think Golden Myyir said it quite
rightly. She's in essence, and

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this is interpretive because she didn't say
it specifically about Hamas. These are my

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words. But if Hamas would drop
their weapons and surrender, the killing will

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stop. But if Israel drops its
weapons, Israel would be no more.

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For Israel, It's a life or
death option. For hamas it's a continual

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march of Iran sponsored terror and violence
beyond the Middle East. Alex Treman joins

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us now, Alex, welcome to
the show. Thank you so much for

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having me. Bill Well Goldenmeyer's cautionary
words echo through the years and very appropriate

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even today. Right. Oh,
absolutely, you could see that Israel has

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genocidal terror organizations committed to its destruction
on its borders. Not only on its

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borders, also inside its own territory
and interdinced Samaria commonly known as the West

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Bank, and even inside of mixed
air of Israeli cities. So Israel is

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really circled by a ring of fire
that's really been created and funded by Iran,

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and Israel is no choice but to
defend itself against this genocidal terror.

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Well, Alex, the West doesn't
quite understand just what you just said in

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terms of the intermixing of Arabs and
Israelis in Israel. When I visited Israel,

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this was the thing that was an
eye opener for me is that Arabs

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had no problem going into Israel controlled
land. In fact, many told me

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quite frankly, that they felt safer
in these Israeli controlled areas. But you

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could not have Israelis going into Arab
controlled areas. In fact, disappointingly for

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me, you know, and people
may be surprised, but even Bethlehem is

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not controlled by Israel. And in
fact, when we were there visiting because

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of a knife intafada, we could
not go into Bethlehem. And we're all

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Christians, and what do you think
we want to see? Bethlehem is one

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of the sites it's so important for
us. But I guess even now Bethlehem

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is cordoned off as well. Right, Yeah, Bethlehem is under the authority

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of the Palestinian authority. It's only
maybe a few miles from the southern border

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of Jerusalem. People don't realize that
before the Oslo Accords were signed, that

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Bethlehem used to be a Christian majority
city. After Yasir Arafat was brought back

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into Israel to head up this Palestinian
authority and to try to work on a

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peace process, that the Christians stormed
the Church of the Nativity. There was

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a hostage situation there for I believe
about forty days. And since then Bethlehem

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went from a town that was eighty
percent Christian to a town that's less than

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fifteen percent Christian. Yeah, it's
so rich for Yashir Arafat to talk about

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peace with Israelis when his belief was
that he wanted Israel to be no more.

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I mean, the chance of you
know, from you know, from

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the river to the sea, the
pronouncements of genocide against Israelis has been a

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continual, a continual mantra of the
Palestinians and so here, you know,

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and even now, you know,
you want to talk about a two state

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solution. How do you negotiate a
two state solution when the other party wants

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the other party just extinct? Yeah, you can't make peace with terrorists.

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I mean, I think that that's
one of the most obvious ideas that could

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be circulated, but it's so confusing
to so many and people. The international

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community has been pushing Israel to turn
around and to make peace with a vow

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terrorist that seek the continued violence and
destruction of the state of Israel. You

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know, I think you made a
very very important point earlier before about how

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Arabs feel safer inside Israeli control towns. And this is the paradox of the

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Israeli Palestinian conflict, is that the
areas where Israel has the least amount of

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control are the areas that become the
largest havens of terror, the most weaponized

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areas of terror, and the areas
in which the IDF has control, and

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in the areas where Israel has even
economic and administrative control are all safer than

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the places in which Israel doesn't have
control. Yeah, it is absolutely insane

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to think, you know, how
we got here, and especially you know,

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when I go back and consider what
happened in the Sixth Day War alex

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Is that Israel had that opportunity to
control everything. I mean, by rights,

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they owned that land. I mean, you know, let's not even

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go back thousands of years, but
just in the content, I mean,

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they defeated the enemy and they had
control, but I guess for the sake

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of appeasement and acquiescent in the process, they ended up, you know,

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convoluting things and instead of controlling their
own destiny. And I would think that,

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you know, those that look back
during that period of time just saying,

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boy, we just you know,
we thought we went in with good

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intent, thought this would solve the
problem. But it hasn't. And it

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continues well in nineteen sixty seven,
which is referred to as the Sixth Day

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War. Within a very very short
period of time, Israel went from being

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on the brink of destruction to an
absolute all out victory in which it all

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of a sudden conquered land that it
really had no intention or no belief that

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it could conquer, and all of
a sudden, within this one week period,

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Israel more than tripled in size,
and they didn't know what to do

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with it, and they didn't know
if it could last. And unfortunately,

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they didn't appreciate the opportunity of the
moment, and they made some horrific mistakes.

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And hopefully we are now in a
moment that is similar to nineteen sixty

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seven. Obviously six weeks, not
six days, but I think that the

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results of this war could be as
large as victorious as nineteen sixty seven.

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And let's just hope that the Israeli
government doesn't make the same kind of mistakes

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that they made in the aftermath of
nineteen sixty seven. Well, what happened

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in sixty seven, clearly, Alex, in my humble opinion, was because

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of the hand of God time and
again, historically, you look at what

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happens with Israel's chosen land, and
you see the divine intervention to protect his

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land and his people. And I
think therein lies the opportunity for Israel and

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its leadership to return to God in
a way to say, Okay, God,

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this is happening. You know what's
happening. Why is it happening?

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And what are we supposed to do? Because because I still see, I

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mean, set aside what Joe Biden, set aside the international pressure, the

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United Nations. We know where they're
coming from. It's still consistent. You

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know, they are participating in uh, you know, in this uh anti

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Zionism movement, everything that is against
Israel. So that we get that.

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But what what I think that we
have an opportunity here is to call on

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the hand of God once again to
turn to God and say, God,

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look at you know, and you
know what's just what's right? What you

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know? What should happen? Because
uh, this is not Arab land,

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this is God's land. And I've
been saying, Alex. In fact,

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I think I may have said it
the last time you and I talked,

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is that I don't think God needs
a real estate agent, do you exactly?

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You know this war started on the
Jewish Holy day of Skata. It's

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the day on the calendar in which
the Jewish people we begin the weekly cycle

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of reading the various to portions.
And there's an idea in Judaism that you

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live with the Toro portion of the
week. And just this week we read

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about the story of Isaac, and
Isaac goes down to settle in the area

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called Garar, and Garar is known
as is what was modern is modern day

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Gaza. And we also know that
Isaac one of the unique qualities that he

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never left the Holy Land of Israel. So if he never left the Holy

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Land of Israel in his lifetime and
he settled in gar and garas Gaza,

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that goes to teach you that Gaza
is actually historical, biblical Israel exactly.

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Well, of course, and then
we're coming off the Jubilee, right,

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alex And what happens in the Jubilee
is things returned to its origin. So

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you know, again in looking at
this spiritually and scripturally, you know,

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I just see it so clearly that
and it's bothered me from day one when

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you know our government, you know, I'm here in the United States,

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you're in Israel, and I think
our government is so ignorant of spiritual matters

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and scriptural context, that they would
interfere with what God is going to do.

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And they do this at their own
peril. Because what has happened time

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and time again, Alex and I've
been, I've been, you know,

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documenting this is that every time America
interferes with God's foreign policy and God's you

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know, God's control of his chosen
land. And whenever you know, this

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country has tried to push a two
states solution, it has followed within you

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know, twenty four to forty eight
hours of a natural disaster. And this

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isn't you know, just once or
twice. I think there's about a dozen

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documented instances when this has occurred.
You would think our country and our leaders

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would know well enough that you are
you are treading on Holy land and you

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better be careful. Yeah, you
know, I think you can look at

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the precedent, right, the United
States took over the mantle as the world's

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moral policeman and moral leader from the
British right, and the British had a

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huge empire around the world, and
the British had a singular mandate. If

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you type British mandate into Google,
you look what the mandate for Britain was

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it was called the British Mandate for
Palestine, and what the British were supposed

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to do under this mandate was to
create a Jewish state in all the land

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that is currently Israel, which includes
judae At, Samaria, the West Bank

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and Gaza, and also all of
Jordan was all supposed to be for a

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Jewish state after World War Two,
after the Jews suffered the horrific ethnic cleansing

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genocide of the Holocaust, and this
was their singular mandate, and they failed

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to do that. Not only did
they divide the land and install a Hashemite

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rule in Jordan and cut it cut
three quarters of the land, but now

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they similarly tried to divide the land
again between Jews and Palestinians. So they

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failed in their mandate, and what
happened to them as an empire, They

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lost their entire empire because they did
not fulfill their singular mandate to create a

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Jewish state in all the land which
was at the time called Palestine, and

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Palestine back then referred to a Jewish
state, not an airborne right exactly.

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Well, you see this is the
correct narrative. But yet the propagandis and

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United Nations, the Arab nations which
want you to believe differently. They want

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you to believe that the Palestinians have
a historic right to that land. But

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I don't. I can't connect the
dots and get there where they're at.

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I mean, just look at history. You know, who was a Palestinian

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king in the land before arch terrorist
Yazar era Fat. You know, where's

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the Palestinian money, Where's the unique
Palestinian culture and poetry? You know,

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there's this none of that. The
po which was founded by Yaser Arafat and

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committed to Israel's destruction, was founded
in nineteen sixty four, three years before

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Israel took over the lands that were
occupied by Jordan and Egypt in nineteen sixty

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seven in that war. And those
are the lands that the Palestinians call for

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a Palestinian state. There's never been
a Palestinian state in Israel. The Jewish

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people are the indigenous people of the
land of Israel. That's why they're called

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the nation of Israel. Jews are
called Jews because they're from the biblical province

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of Judea. And the people that
want there to be a Palestinian state in

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the West Bank. What they want
is the only county in the entire world

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called Judea. They wanted to be
juden Rhine or free of Jews. We're

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talking with Alex Treman, Jerusalem Bureau
Chief, and we're talking, you know,

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of course obviously what's happening in Israel, and you know, just going

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back historically, because this is important. These are things that have been lost

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in translation. People some have lost
in translations, some people didn't even know

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this, and just a simple academic, you know, illustration of how we

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got here and here we are.
You know, I think it's quite interesting

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that with the Palestinians, Alex is
that the Palestinians and Hamas, I don't

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see the other Arab nations wanting to
take them in exactly. You know,

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you have a situation in which the
Palestinians in Gaza are landlocked right now.

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They're certainly not coming into Israel.
We saw three thousand of them enter Israel

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on October seventh and try to murder
as many Israelis as they possibly could.

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So certainly refugees are not going to
foo into Israel. But Israel does not

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control the entire border with Gaza.
Gaza has a seven mile border with Egypt.

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Egypt does not want even one Palestinian
on their soil. The Jordanians,

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which their country is more than sixty
percent Palestinian, don't want a single additional

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Palestinian from Gaza on their soil.
And all these nations that care so much

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about the Palestinians are claimed to care
so much about the Palestinians won't take a

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single Palestinian on their soil, and
they keep them in Gaza. They won't

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get that border open. And then
they accuse Israel of humanitarian crimes when they're

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denying refugees the basic human right of
leaving a war zone? Alex is it

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fair to consider that these other narrow
Arab nations who have you know, who

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look at these Palestinians in the Gaza
that have been so indoctrinated, you know

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since what eight seven with Hamas,
and they have been oppressed by this government.

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Are they fearful that if they interject
these Palestinians who have been indoctrinated by

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Hamas, that they could bring that
into their into their countries. I think

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that's part of it, and I
think that the other part of it is

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that they are using the Palestinians,
using and abusing the Palestinians as a lever

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against the State of Israel and to
intentionally weaken the state of Israel. And

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really the entire international community has been
doing this. Because you mentioned the UN

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You know, there's a special UN
agency called UNRA, the United Nations Relief

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and Works Agency, that is the
only refugee crisis in the entire world that

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has its own UN agency. All
other refugees in any other place are under

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a singular agency. In Palestinians are
under one specific agency, UNRA. This

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UNRA funds schools in the Palestinian Authority
in Jerusalem and Gaza that are teaching kids

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to hate, you know, and
you look at the textbooks. They have

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math books that you know, for
many years was the math problem was if

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you have ten Jews and you kill
seven, how many Jews are left?

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Right? And so this is UNRA, and UNRA also fails to solve the

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refugee crisis. Not only that it
perpetuates refugees, so that even the third

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and fourth generation of of re descendants
of refugees are considered refugees. This was

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an entire country of refugees, but
how many how many refugees are there in

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Israel. None, because Israel settled
them exactly. You know, the UN

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just perpetuates this crisis, and the
Western world they fund and run, they

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perpetuated as well well. And you
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money that they gave to to Hamas
was used for weaponry use for you know,

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building out their tunnels. Yeah,
not just unra you know, Qatar

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and the Palestinian and Kamas get direct
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Billions and billions of dollars, first
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miles worth of subterranean tunnels like little
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Hamas uses to attack Israelis goes into
rockets. They fired just in the last

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six weeks, ten thousand rockets Israel, and they've invited death and destruction on

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their own people. Instead of taking
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their people, they've used it to
attack Israel. And what do they have

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to show for that? You know, Well, it's clear they don't care

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about their people. I mean,
because Alex they had to know. Even

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though it was a small number.
We understand of Hamas leaders that were aware

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of what was being planned, what
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seventh. The Palestinians in mass did
not know what was going to happen,

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but the leaders had to know that
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was going to come after them and
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Yeah, I think that people don't
understand the Hamas strategy. They carried

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out an attack that they knew was
going to draw in a horrific counter attack

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by the IDEF. This was the
purpose of the operation. And you would

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ask the normal question, well,
why would a weak terror organization invite one

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of the world's strongest armies to attack
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militarily win. And the answer to
that question is because what they actually wanted

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is for Israel to kill as many
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in London, in New York and
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and parents and elsewhere, you understand
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against the Jewish state and This is
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Israel through the prism of international opinion
and diplomacy. This is the strategy of

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Commas. Yeah, it's quite revealing
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even how the West is mishandling this
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condemning universe state presidents and leadership for
not standing up and helping, you know,

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their kids, their students, you
know, understand what's going on,

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because really, if you do not
understand good and evil, it speaks of

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your lack of maturity and education,
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any other way you can put it. Alex. Yeah, I mean what's

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been going on in the college campuses
is not a new phenomenon. You know.

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I was living in the United States
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programs on college campuses back in the
early two thousands, and we started then

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to see the first Israel Apartheid weeks
popping up on campuses run by organizations including

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the Students for Justice in Palestine which
have direct connections to Ramas and the Jewish

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community, and the US government and
university presidents and donors didn't want to do

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anything about it back then, and
they let this situation fester. And not

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only has the situation on the university's
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where it's literally unsafe for Jewish students
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but in other cases, you know, to to state their own opinions.

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In Middle East studies classes, you
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a passing grade. But you know, not not only that, but the

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students that that encountered these Israel apartheid
walls twenty years ago, well guess what

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now they're the ones teaching the college
campuses exactly, they're teaching in high schools,

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and in some cases they're they're members
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this is this is how how good
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say, in terms of being able
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control them in the manner in which
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it's interesting how in such a short
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because if it was the other way
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after nine to eleven. You know, the Muslim community was greatly protected.

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Uh you know, hate crimes were
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there's something done against the Jew in
America I'm talking about specifically, you know,

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there's all kinds of consternation and and
you know, people grabbing their pearls

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show to speak and oh, how
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Well, wait a minute, if
it's a hate crime in dealing with

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a Muslim, why isn't it a
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Jew. Yeah, we just saw
even since this war started that Kamala Harris

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was chairing some committee on Islamophobia in
America. When you see the anti Semitic

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incidents are skyrocketing up something like one
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situation is very dire and dangerous.
But you know, there are there are

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signs that the that the Jewish community
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even not non Jewish, is waking
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come out to Washington to support Israel, and we're starting to see a lot

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of the don't owners of these universities
say, you know, we're not going

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to give money. And we've heard
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Haley and others and even Donald Trump
say, you know, you can say

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whatever you want on a college campus. We can't stop that. But if

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you're going to harbor and f foster
anti Semitism on the campus, you don't

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need to be receiving federal funding for
that. So perhaps maybe there will be

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some positive changes that come out from
from this disaster. Well, I often

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tell my kids experience defines preference.
We're getting a lot of experience right now,

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and so it's up to you know, certainly in our case in America,

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we the people, the Americans,
to make up their minds and realize

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that they cannot let it happen.
I mean, this is how we got

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here and find ourselves in this position
here in America today, Alex is that

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we have been asleep at the wheel. Admittedly, and the churches, you

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know, particularly that support Israel are
waking up in record numbers. And because

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we go back and you know,
appreciate what God said very clearly is you

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know, in that Abrahamic confidant that
those who bless you will be blessed,

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and those who curse you will be
cursed. And this is what we're seeing.

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And and there are reports clearly on
the side of you know, those

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peoples who are blessing Israel. You
know, God's true to his word and

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nothing has changed. That's still the
case. And those who curse curse Israel

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are are getting the curse of God. And you know they can be in

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denial, but you know, you
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Gaza as just a minor example.
Other reports that you know media does not

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want to report on are also evident
as well, because again, God is

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faithful to his word. Yeah,
absolutely right. You know, a former

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US, former Israeli Ambassador to the
United States, Ron Dermer, who's now

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Minister Ofrategic Affairs and a member of
Prime Minister Nataniel's war cabinet. You know,

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he said very clearly that the bedrock
of American support for the state of

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Israel is rooted in the Christian Zionist
community, exactly in terms of the numbers.

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And you look around the world right
now, you see how Israel gets

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beat up in international forums and by
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And you know, Israel can use
a strong friend in the United States.

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And if it wasn't for the Christian
Zionist community. I don't know how

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many friends Israel would have in the
world, but there's a risk because we

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see even among younger people are influenced
by TikTok and other social media channels,

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the support for Israel is waning as
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So I think that the Christian Zionists
out there, especially, they have

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to do their best to really educate
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the way that their parents did,
to make sure that Israel does have a

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strong ally, in fact, the
strongest ally in the entire world, which

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would be the United States exactly well, barring barring a revival, barring a

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return to God in an awakening of
the United States. You know, you

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look at the trajectory of what's happening
in the Middle East. I've always maintained,

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Alex that when Israel became a nation
again in nineteen forty eight, on

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God's prophetic clock in his schedule,
in his calendar, it was if the

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hour hand of God's prophetic clock was
set, And what's been passing since nineteen

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forty eight are minutes and seconds.
So you know, most of us are

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not fooling ourselves. You know,
we're praying for revival. Should God decide

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to you know, give America the
world and then of a moment, so

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to speak, a chance to return
to Him and be revived, you know,

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we will be eternally grateful. But
regardless, if we are on the

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timeline and we continue to move to
the final chapter of Revelations of the Book

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of Revelations, then we will we
still be will be thankful to God because

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we know how it ends. And
uh, you know that that the Messiah

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will come. There will be a
new heaven, new earth, that peace

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will be the order of the day, and this contention and this fallen world

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that we've been dealing with will be
no more. But until then, you

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know, we're we're fighting the good
fight of faith, uh, being aligned

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in in unity with you know,
with the Holy Trinity, the Father's Son

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and Holy ghosts. Uh to do
His will and do his bidding here until

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until He should come again. And
that's uh, you know, that is

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our prayer and that is our our
expectation. That's where our faith lies because

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we serve a faithful God. Yeah. Absolutely, you know, Christians really

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have to delve into their faith this
time. Obviously, the Jewish faith has

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some different beliefs, you know,
but it looks like that. And what

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what Christians and Jews share in terms
of common values are are so deep and

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and in terms of the vision of
the future of what Jews and Christians believe,

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it is it is a peace in
Israel, and it's a it's a

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it's a temple in Israel as a
house of all nations. UH. And

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I think we're living in various very
special times where we're seeing the complete rebuilding

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of Israel and of Jerusalem, UH. And you're actually seeing your witnessing,

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living in real time, the total
transformation of the Middle East, in which

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countries like the United United Arab Emirates
and Bahrain, UH and Morocco in Northeast

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Africa and North Africa, Sudan have
all already normalized relations with Israel. Saudi

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Arabia, the Seat of Islam UH
is on a path towards normalizing relations with

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Israel. And at the same time
we're seeing how Israel is actively at this

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moment fighting against UH and defeating the
forces of evil in the region, all

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of which are are funded by Iran, which is this maniacal h. You

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Muslim Islamic Republic that that just seeks
a hedge of money in the region.

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Uh. And if Israel will will
succeed in in wiping out Kamas, destroying

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Hasborah, you know, I think
that you're going to start to see even

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faster development of Israel as a as
a regional superpower, as a global superpower,

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and a country that's able to make
peace with all of its neighbors exactly,

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you know, Alex, between now
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you know, the Christians, uh, the Christians doctrine and Jewish doctrine.

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I'm excited because we all end up
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know what I'm saying. I mean
in between times. Okay, you know,

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well, you know, we'll get
through it, but we're we're all

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heading to the same exit here.
And I'm excited about that. And that's

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what That's what holds us, holds
us together. I want to go back

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and talk a little bit about you
know, what Hamads thought was going to

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happen. And I think they you
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even considered that Hesbola would have been
more involved. They have been sending missiles,

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you know, from the north into
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we don't see a full release of
whatever one hundred and fifty thousand missiles supposedly

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they have to the ready and pointed
at Israel. Yeah, exactly. You

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raise an important point that Jusboa is
actually the larger of the terror proxy,

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poses a much more dangerous threat to
Israel even than Hamas. There's over one

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hundred and fifty thousand missiles pointed at
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And these are not like the Casam
rockets that Hamas is firing. These are

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long range missiles. Many of them
are precision guided. They can deliver much

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more serious payloads than the Kassam rockets
that Hamas has and and it's a very

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very dangerous threat. And while they
haven't started firing all of their weaponry,

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UH, they have already fired over
a thousand times mortars, anti tank,

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precision guided missiles UH and drones into
Israel. And the border between Israel and

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Lebanon has just continued to heat up. UH. And it does seem like

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the red line UH is about to
be crossed. I mean, the international

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community is pushing Israel not to reply
with full force to the Haasbelo aggression.

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think that it's very very likely that that

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Israel will have simply no choice and
we'll have to go into southern Lebanon.

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You'll start to see the scenes in
Lebanon similar to the ones you're seeing now

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in Gaza. Well, the other
thing too, you got the Hooties that

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are sticking their thumb in the eyes
of Americans. You've got to you've got

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to military outposts in Iraq that are
being bonded. Uh. This is all

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being sponsored by Iran. Uh.
You know we have been saying for you

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know, ever since this began,
is that we have never been closer to

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you know, such a huge regional
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of fire around Israel, and they

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have their proxies in Yemen, the
Juties, as you mentioned, they have

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Hasboa, which we discussed in Kamas. They've also they also have branches of

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Grizbela in Iraq and also in Syria. And we've seen attacks already all throughout

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the region. The Hooties are firing
cruise and realistic missiles at Israel. They've

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already hijacked a commercial vessel and the
Red Seat. You know, just last

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week we saw again we saw the
attack of American bases inside the Rocks.

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carrying out attacks in Syria. So there's

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this is already a regional war and
the question is if players outside the region

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will get involved. I think that
Israel can handle uh these challenges by itself.

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But at the same time, we
see that the United States has already

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sent over to USS carrier groups,
the Eisenhower and the Ford carrier groups.

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There's enough firepower from the United States, more than most nations possess, and

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and they they have started to use
a little bit. But maybe there's a

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reason that it's all here. And
even though the US is trying to use

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that equipment just as a deterrent,
you can't rule out the possibility that that

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equipment is actually put into into full
force and may even strike her on at

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some point. Well exactly because you
know, in part when we first started

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seeing what was going on, we're
wondering, you know, where the forces

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coming there, you know, to
the Mediterranean, the Red Sea, you

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know, to you know, a
deterrent on both levels, not only for

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Iran and the proxies, but maybe
a bit of deterrent for Israel. You

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know. Again, you know,
we look at it, you know,

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and our reporters look at it here
in the United States in such a way

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as that we are you know,
you know, we're bothered by some of

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the policies and things that are said
out of this administration. And I appreciate

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that Israel has to be political,
they have to be grateful to this administration

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because they don't want to get get
them upset. But I'm sure probably behind

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closed doors, they they may wonder
at the duplicity at times and get confused

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of whether or not they're dealing with
Cutter or they're dealing with the United States

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correctly. You know, the United
States for all of its support for Israel,

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which is tremendous and there's a lot
of defense cooperation, and the United

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States is Israel's best ally and Israel's
America's best ally. But at the same

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time, when you look at the
policy of the United States, they provide

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funding to the Palestinians, they pressure
Israel to seed land to Palestinians, despite

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the fact that the Palestinians have done
nothing over many years to indicate that they

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want to make peace with Israel.
But worse yet, they've been providing funding

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to Iran, and Iran is using
these funds to do two things. Number

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one to develop illicit nuclear weapons as
it calls for death to Israel, and

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two to fund its terror proxies all
over the region, including terror proxies that

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sit on and even inside Israel's own
borders. So you have to ask yourself,

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you know, why is it that
are that an ally is funding is

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funding the enemy at the same time. Yeah, that's what I mean.

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This is the duplicity of this country. And I'm sure you've been following this

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as well. What did you make
of the reports and the reveal that a

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lot of this funding, Yes we
know that it has come from Iran,

442
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but a lot of it's being done
through the mechanism of bitcoin. Yeah,

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you know, the IDEF has been
tracking this for a long time and has

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actually gone into digital wallets and Gaza
to remove funding that's come via bitcoin.

445
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:30.079
You know, this is part of
the whole cyber war that takes place below

446
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the surface. Right now, everybody's
looking at the you know, the the

447
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.800
air force strikes and the rockets being
fired in the tunnels, But these wars

448
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are economic wars there, they are
cyber wars. There are you know reports

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that October seventh involved a cyber hack
on on IDF communications infrastructure, which would

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explain why it took so many hours
for the IDF to respond to the infiltration

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on October seventh. So you know, all these methods are all part of

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the greater, the greater war for
Israel security. Yeah, without a doubt.

453
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I wanted to address, you know, the hostage exchange reports. You

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know this past week that there was
going to be an exchange of up to

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fifty hostages. I will advise our
viewers that we are pre recording this so

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they're you know, no, like
you know, there will likely be an

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update on whatever we talk about regarding
the hostages. But you know, the

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mechanism is that Israel will cease I
guess, do some sort of cease firing

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or dial back. It's you know, it's offensive against Tamas in order to

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allow for this exchange women and children
only, right, Yeah, So the

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way this has been reported as it's
been drawn up, is that a mosque

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will turn over to Israel up to
fifty women and children, some mothers,

463
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some elderly and female children also in
exchange for four days of quiet, and

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the Camas would deliver the hostages and
increments of twelve or thirteen a day for

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four days in exchange for quiet,
and also in exchange for Israel releasing one

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hundred and fifty Palestinian prisoners from Israeli
jails. And these are individuals that were

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arrested while performing acts of terror.
Many of them have arrested for attempted murder.

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You know, you were hearing stories
of like a woman who walked up

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to an Israeli soldier and tried to
stab the soldier. You know, we

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hear you know, they say that
the Palestinian prisoners are women and what they're

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calling miners up to the age of
nineteen, but that many times is including

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eighteen nineteen seventy year old males,
that we're trying to commit terror attacks and

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we were caught in the act before
they were able to succeed as they as

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it will to murder Israelis. And
so you know, Israel is going to

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be returning, according to the deal, a ratio of three to one of

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visitors that were committing acts of murder
against Israelis in return to get innocent civilians

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who were kidnapped and taken hostage on
October seventh. Yeah, that's disturbing.

478
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But again this speaks of the international
pressure and how effective it's been to force

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Israel into this compromise, because you
know, on on its face, it's

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not a fair exchange, is it. I mean, obviously three for one,

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00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.760
you can do the math yourself.
But more important than that is the

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question of does this pause make the
fighting more dangerous for IDF soldiers? Right?

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If Hamas is able to use this
time to to come out of its

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tunnels, able to regroup, re
arm, right to put ceales back together

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that might have been split up,
you know, would the risk is that

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IDF soldiers could be killed as a
result of this pause in the fighting.

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So there's a lot of risk.
But it also goes to show just how

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much Israel truly values the lives of
its own citizens that it would be willing

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to do so much in order to
get back these women and children, just

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because they cherish each life so much
exactly. And then the families of the

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remaining hostages, this has to be
heartbreaking, you know, I mean at

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any level, and of course it's
been these families that have been very outspoken

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you know, towards the government.
You can't blame them. It's not like

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the government is being at least I
don't see it, Alex, that the

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government is you know, being laissez
faire about it or they don't care.

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00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:06.480
I think they've been very compassionate about
it. You know, Otherwise, if

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the hostages didn't matter, they would
have already leveled the gaze a long time

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00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:15.840
ago. Right, Oh, absolutely, I mean, I think one way

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of looking at the conflict could have
been to say, the hostages don't matter.

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We have to consider the hostages dead, and the purpose of the operation

501
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.719
is to make sure that Kamas can
never take a hostage again. But that's

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00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.159
simply not the way it works in
Israel. And I tell you, every

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00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:37.119
single Israeli feels the pain of the
families that haven't seen their loved ones in

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00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.880
six weeks. We're talking about elderly, we're talking about Holocaust survivors. We're

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00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.039
talking about women, We're talking about
children, we're talking about toddlers. There

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00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:52.320
was a mother that is reported to
have given birth while pregnant, mother while

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00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:58.079
while in captivity. And you know, there's so much pressure. I wouldn't

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00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.559
want to be nobody would want to
be one of these families, especially on

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00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:06.360
the eve of a deal like this, not knowing if your loved one is

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00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.559
going to be coming back, you
knowing with anticipation to see if one of

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00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:14.559
those people coming across the border is
your loved one, and then waiting the

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00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.800
next day and the next day and
the next day to see if that's going

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00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.440
to happen, and then what happens
if if the loved one is not one

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of those fifty that was returned,
and one for chances of getting them back

515
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:29.679
later after this deal is over,
you know. So it's it's a tremendous,

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tremendous pain, and you it kind
of makes you understand why the Israeli

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government would go to such lens to
bring back the hostages, even when on

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00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:44.639
a military level it seems to be
a miscalculation. Well, I can tell

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00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:49.719
you here in the West, having
celebrated Thanksgiving, which is a time for

520
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:58.239
family hearts, compassion, hearts toward
Israel and toward these family who are missing

521
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.199
family members, we look and relate
to it in such a way as what

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00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.480
would it be like at our Thanksgiving
dinner table one of the members of our

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00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.880
family, and we do have this
Uh, anyway, just in you know,

524
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with all that's happened, you know, Uh, death is part of

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00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.159
the experience and no matter what nation
you're in. But when we see what's

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00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:24.480
happening in Israel and that there are
family members that are missing and not with

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00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:29.840
their families. Not that you're celebrating
Thanksgiving, but you know, you're celebrating

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00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.599
the holidays, you're celebrating the Sabbath. You know there are other instances.

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00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.760
Yes, we can, we can
relate to it. We've got a couple

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00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.840
of minutes left here, Alex,
and I wanted to get your read on.

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Uh. You know, the idf
has been very particular about sending footage

532
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:58.480
to media and demonstrating how Hamas has
violated the Geneva Accords by utilizing schools and

533
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:02.719
where they've you know, you've seen
missile launchers out of their classrooms. Excuse

534
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:08.119
me, you've seen also the tunnels
underneath the hospital. And yet you will

535
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.800
have some in the international community going, well, we haven't verified it,

536
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.119
we'll go verify it then. I
mean, this is information that the IDF

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00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:21.639
IS has proposed. I don't know. I think that maybe there might have

538
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:27.000
been one instant if I remember correctly, where there might have been something suspect,

539
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.000
and the IDEF said, well,
we may you know, we may

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00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:36.119
have misrepresented something there. But I
think they've been very fourth right in presenting

541
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:42.440
these pictures in order to counter the
propaganda narrative that's been put out there by

542
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.360
you know, by the Arab countries, by Iran, and by the United

543
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:52.599
Nations. If you look at this
Alshifa hospital, which is a command center

544
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of Kamas, It's been known for
years the Al Shifa hospital is a command

545
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center for Kamas. And yet Israel, because of the double standards, has

546
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.840
had to lay the groundwork for that
attack. Because they couldn't just go in

547
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.599
there and storm the hospital. They
had to like lay the groundwork with the

548
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:13.599
international community to explain over and over
and over again that this was a Kamas

549
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.400
command center before they were able to
go in. And you know what happened.

550
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:22.320
They went in after telegraphing that attack, and because they gave so much

551
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.599
notice to Hamas that they were going
to attack this hospital. What happened is

552
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:32.280
that Kamas took out most of the
equipment and also the hostages that Israel believed

553
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:37.880
were being held in the hospital basement, they moved them out and so Israel

554
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.639
lost the opportunity to take over the
command center and to get back into hostages,

555
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.159
specifically because it had to go out
of its way to make the case

556
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of why it had to attack the
hospital. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

557
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Well, you know, the video
is there. I believe that the IDF

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Israel has been over backwards, you
know, to to you know, present

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00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.920
these violations of you know, the
Geneva laws. I think there's like one

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hundred and sixty one laws Israel is
accused of, you know, being you

561
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.840
know, criminals and offenders of the
law. But you have clear evidence that

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00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.679
it's been hammas, that it violated
the international you know, order of law.

563
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:28.679
Have they not, bill The IDF
is done more in the history of

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warfare to protect innocent civilians than any
other army. People and militaries are going

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to look back at this conflict as
the gold standard for how armies should conduct

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themselves with regard to civilian casualties.
And yet for all the efforts that Israel's

567
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.559
doing to make sure that that there
are not civilian casualties, that there's not

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00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:53.159
collateral damage, even so, Israel's
accused more than any other military in the

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00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:59.639
world of creating a humanitarian crisis.
So we just see here a horrific double

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00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:04.079
stand that I think is rooted in
nothing short of anti Semitism. Well,

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as we wrap things up, we've
got about a minute left. Alex Strahman,

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I wanted to give you an opportunity, you know, to you know,

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summarize and you know, and to
share your thoughts with our viewers here,

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00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.719
not only in America, but around
the world, because these channels reach

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out and they go global, and
you know, so here's your chance to

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00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:34.599
relay your message to the world.
Well, two messages. Number one that

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the IDEAF is going to win this
war because it has to. But second

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00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:45.440
that the information that people digest about
the war, about the conflict is oftentimes

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00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:51.280
unreliable. And that's particularly when you're
talking about the AP, CNN, BBC,

580
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:55.719
New York Times and others. And
it's very very important to identify good,

581
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:01.760
accurate, high quality sources of information
working every day at Jewish Whosyndica JNS

582
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:07.000
dot org to be that reliable source
of news. And so we invite everybody

583
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.599
to come and to get their daily
updates on what's happening in this war directly

584
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.039
from us. Well, Alex Tremanakanna, thank you enough. I appreciate the

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time for you coming on the show
to give us this update and an important

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00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.719
part of the history that I believe
that many of us need to be aware

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00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:28.559
of and need to remember as well. Thank you so much for being with

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us. Take care. Thank you, Bill, our gratitude and thanks to

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00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:37.639
Alex S. Treman, Jerusalem Bureau
Chief with the latest on Israel Hamas' war,

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and our thanks to you for sharing
a part of your day with us.

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Thank you and continue to be vigilant
in order to not only get this

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country, but the world to return
to God. Thank you so much for

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being with us. May God bless
you and keep you. May His face

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shine upon you. May He be
gracious unto you and give you his piece.

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God bless. Happy Thanksgiving ladies,
gentlemen, Take care, God bless