The Bill Martinez Show 09 11 26

0:01 Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Bill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now, Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning. We're back with you. Bill Martinez here along with my good friend, Bill Federer from the American Men in Fame. Mr. Bill, how you doing? Oh, great. Good to be with you. Hey, great to have you here to talk about a big moment in history, 9-11. It's amazing, Bill, to think It was 25 years ago, huh? Yeah. You know, if we say December 7th, what do we think of? Well, bombing Pearl Harbor. And so that is sort of similar to the way that 9-11 is to Islam.

0:45 And when you understand that Islam is not an individual religion, there's no concept of a individual relationship with Allah. That doesn't exist. It's a group. It's a community. It's a team of And so if your team loses the playoffs time after time after time, how does your team regain its honor, its respect? Well, maybe winning the playoffs. And so we'll see that they lost on September 11th several times, major battles. And that is why it is thought they chose that day to attack. And it's amazing because you say they choose to win, but it's winning at any cost. Right. Because the ends justify the means. And here in the West, we think a little bit differently. We think somehow there's a level playing field. You have a clock that you're working against or maybe there's innings when it comes to baseball. You know, there's a beginning and the end. And with Islam, the end is will only be when the Mahdi returns.

1:48 Right. Yeah. According to the Shiites. But both the Shiites and the Sunni want a one world government. called the Caliphate, led by one supreme leader called a caliph, a caliph. And it goes back to Muhammad. So Muhammad was a religious leader, a political leader, and a military leader, fought in 66 battles and raids, killing thousands of people. And his followers did the same, conquering Christian areas of the world. All of North Africa used to be Christian. Egypt used to be Christian. Syria used to be Christian. Turkey used to be Christian. And their goal is to have a one-world Antichrist government. And I say that intentionally because Surah 572 in the Quran says, if you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, you have committed the unforgivable sin called shirk that condemns you to the fires of hell.

2:41 You cannot be any more anti-Christ than by saying, if you believe in Christ, you go to hell. Which is interesting because by comparison, right? The antithetical in the Christian religion is if you declare Christ, then... that says that the Holy Spirit is in you and your eternal life is secured by, you know, by acknowledging Jesus as the son of God. And, and typically the, the Muslims believe just the opposite. Yeah. So God is just, and he has to judge every sin because if he does not judge his sin, even the smallest, his silence would be giving consent to the sin. And if he gets consent to sin, he's denying his just nature. And he cannot deny himself. So he has to judge every sin, which means he can never be loved back until he came up with a plan. And the plan was his own son would become a man and take the judgment in our place. And so God is on one side. He's just. We're on the other side.

3:38 We've sinned. And in between is the lamb and the lamb takes the judgment for the sin instead of us taking the judgment for the sin. Then that's the more or less the religion of Abel, right? Cain and Abel. And so everybody that trusts in the Lamb from Abel onward, right, is approaching God through God's mercy that was shed through the Lamb. And John the Baptist pointed to Jesus and said, Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world. Cain is the religion of Islam. Now, any religion of works, it's in that category, but Islam is specifically the religion of Cain because it specifically denies a lamb. It denies Jesus. Right. And Cain wanted to please God, but he did it through his works. And we know it's works because God told Adam, the ground is cursed for your sake. You'll bring forth fruit by the sweat of your brow. Sweat is work. And when Cain's works were rejected, it says his countenance fell. His pride was hurt. He was embarrassed in front of his community, his umma. It was small.

4:34 It was the mom, dad, and brother, but that was enough. And he gets filled full of hatred and wants to do the first honor killing. He wants to kill his brother who's responsible for embarrassing him in front of his group. And so that's what Islam does. So it's almost like the spiritual descendants of Cain want to kill the spiritual descendants of Abel. And so Islam fits into this category. And we see again that there's a 1400 year history and we see that it was stopped at least three major times on September 11th. And if you want, I can capsize. Yeah. Yes, please. This is why I wanted to bring this because, you know, people, you know, they're kind of amazed when they realize what, uh, you know, what a date means.

5:22 And it's, it's not, it's not by, you know, coincidence. I mean, you have to know that God almighty who plans everything and is in control of everything understands this. I mean, because even when you look at nine 11, uh, in 25 years ago, you know, Jonathan Cahn wrote an incredible book, which really launched his career and was followed by, you know, what now a total of 10. He's on his 11th bestselling book, but that was the Harbinger and the Harbinger laid out what happened on nine 11 from a spiritual perspective and a spiritual worldview and how consistent it was with what happened in Isaiah nine, Isaiah 10, Isaiah nine, Isaiah 10, uh, in the old Testament. And, And America's response was similar to Israel's response at that time, fast forward hundreds of years, you know, to 2001. And it was total defiance. It wasn't any pause to consider that, hey, maybe we've messed up here. Maybe we've angered God. Maybe we need to think about this stuff. And it was amazing, Bill, because in his book, The Harbinger, he spells out step by step the pattern of the Old Testament, how it was repeated thousands of years later. on 2001 and 9-11.

6:39 It's incredible. But anyway, 9-11 again repeats itself. So go ahead and remind us of the historical significance of 9-11. 1565, Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent sent the Algerian Admiral Dragut to Malta, this little island just south of Italy, where the Apostle Paul had shipwrecked right And so Dragut is the admiral. He's got 200 ships, 40,000 Muslim soldiers. He's pounding away. And he says, unless we have smoked out this nest of vipers, we can do no good anywhere. Queen Elizabeth I said, if the Turks should prevail against the island of Malta, it is uncertain what further peril might follow to the rest of Christendom. If they can get Malta, they can get Western Mediterranean, and then they can get the coast of Italy, France, and Spain and So the Knights of Malta were led by a 70-year-old Frenchman, Jean Parissat de Lavalette. So this Lavalette gets the word.

7:41 He said, A formidable army composed of audacious barbarians is descending upon this island. These persons, my brothers, are the enemies of Jesus Christ. Today it is a question of the defense of our faith as to whether the gospel are to be superseded by the Koran. God, on this occasion demands of us our lives already vowed to his service. Happy will be those who first consummate this sacrifice. And so he tells them that no reinforcements are coming. It's just us, these knights of Malta. The Turks attack. They're pounding away with their cannons, and they blast through one of the castles, and the young men escape and make it up to the main castle. And La Valette says, what.

8:23 Are you doing here? You're supposed to fight till you die. Well, they go back, and they fight, and then they die, and he pounded. They pound away at another castle. Finally, they blow a hole through the last castle. And Lavalette stands there in the gap. And all the guys run to the back. And then they say, well, you know what? We're going to all die anyway. We may as well die with him. But they don't just go back to the hole in the castle. They pour out. And the Turks didn't expect to blow a hole in the castle. And out of that hole, poor soldiers. And since the castle was on a hill, they get chased. And they're tripping over themselves, falling. Down the hill. Finally, one boatload of reinforcements arrives. and their Admiral Dragut is killed, and the Muslims sail away on September 11th, 1565, considered the first major defeat of the Muslim navy on the Mediterranean. The second is 1683, and you have 200,000 Muslim Turks surrounding Vienna, and they're starving the inhabitants. The Sultan Mehmed IV sends a message to the Austrian King Leopold I, await us in your residence so we can decapitate you. And so the Polish King Jan Sobieski takes 80,000 Polish-Austrian-German troops and leaves Poland. He takes the entire Polish army and leaves Poland. And he comes to Vienna's rescue on, you guessed it, September 11th, 1683. He has one of the largest cavalry charges in world history. Uh, the first day they fight and it's sort of a tie second

9:54 day they're fighting and he whistles and down. I'll tell you what, let's hold for just a second. We'll just go to quick break. Hold on to that. whistle. We got more from Bill Federer after this. A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from 69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation. This study underscores the remarkable work out-of-school time programs do to help students discover the joy in learning while preparing them to succeed now and into the future. The study finds rural and low-income students are less likely to get frequent STEM opportunities, with rural programs also offering fewer opportunities in computer science and technology. Jody Grant, Executive Director of the After-School Alliance.

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15:04 Oh, it does. And the Battle of Vienna, September 11, 1683, you have the second day of the battle. Down the hillside comes 40,000 of these Polish cavalry on big hussar horses, sort of like Clydesdales. And I mean, the earth is rumbling, and the soldiers had made wings for their back. You know how soldiers put horns on their helmet? And it makes a whistling noise, like a jet taking off. And the Muslims are in confusion, and they leave, and they leave so fast, they leave their tents in place. And Jan Sobieski, the Polish king, goes into the tents and finds bags of beans, coffee beans, and realizes this was the new drink the Muslims had that allowed them to fight day and night. And the word coffee comes from the Arabic word kafir, which means infidel. because the beans came from Ethiopia, and that was the one country to stay Christian in Africa.

16:00 So the Muslims called the Christians kaffirs or infidels. So this was the kaffir bean or the coffee bean. Now, they weren't sure if they should drink it, so they took a cup of it to Pope Clement VIII. He tasted it and said, this is too good to let the devil have. Let's baptize it, and then coffee spread across Europe. So have you had your cup of infidel today? Right. And so the. Polish general, George Fran Kleszowski, opens the first Vienna coffee house, coffee spreads across Europe. And so Sobieski is considered the savior of Western civilization. President Theodore Roosevelt said, from the hammer of Charles Martel to the sword of Jan Sobieski, Christianity owed its safety in Europe to the fact it could fight as well as the Mohammedan aggressor. Well, the Muslim soldiers were so upset that they lost, they cut off the head of their general, Mustafa Pasha. They put it in a silk bag and sent it to Sultan Mehmed IV, saying, here, it's his fault. And his last words were, make sure you tie the knot in the bag right. Anyway, so Hilaire Belloc, he was in England, one of the great Edwardian writers, sort of the same time as, you know, you have... J.R.R. Tolkien and so forth writing. But Hilaire Belloc says, less than 100 years before the American War of Independence, a Mohammedan army was threatening to overrun and destroy Christian civilization. Vienna was almost taken and only saved by the Christian army under the command of the King of Poland on a date that

17:32 ought to be among the most famous in history, September 11th, 1683. Wow. This is Hilaire Belloc saying this date, September. So everybody knew this was the date. Now, one more time, 1697. You have 100,000 Muslims invading Serbia, Belgrade. And the Austrians helped free Belgrade. The Ottoman Turks recaptured it. And the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch led thousands to flee. It's called the Great Serbian Migration. And the Habsburg prince was Eugene of Savoy. And one of his young soldiers was James Oglethorpe, who later founded Georgia. But Eugene of Savoy led the counterattack and they killed 30,000 Turks. Only 400 of the Holy League were killed, but 30,000 Turks were killed. It's called the Battle of Zenta, Z-E-N-T-A. And it took place on, you guessed it, September 11th, 1697. So these three major defeats.

18:40 The Battle of Malta, September 11, 1565, September 11, 1683, September 11, 1697. These were the beginnings of the end of the Ottoman Empire, and it kept losing battles until the end of World War I. The Ottoman Empire was disbanded. The caliphate was destroyed or dissolved, and that's when you had Muslim leaders wanting to be more secular, and that's when four years later, In Egypt, a school teacher named Hassan al-Banna said, we have to reestablish the caliphate. We don't have an army, so we have to do it subversively. So he invented the Muslim Brotherhood to sneak into countries as religious Muslims and then turn political and militant and do assassinations. Anyway, so... You know, and.

19:27 It's interesting, Bill, because here it is, for this time and period, Christians were able to withstand the onslaught of Muslim aggression. And so suddenly... things began to turn. And you could probably look at it in terms of how the Christian religion became secularized and laxed. and drifted from core principles. And as a result, just like in the Old Testament, like we were talking about in Isaiah 9-10, is the children of Israel, like the West, turning their back on God and drifting away from God and becoming more secularized. And as they did, as the You hear the cry of Jews saying, God, you don't go out with our armies anymore. Right?

20:15 Yeah. Yeah. And so they have a fast way and a slow way to spread Islam. Fast way is the sword. It's called jihad. Slow way is through immigration. It's called Dawah. D-A-W-A-H. Dawah. It's immigration jihad. And they infiltrate. It's the Muslim Brotherhood plan. You infiltrate just being a religious Muslim, and then you come into a country and you build a community, and then you get involved in politics, and then you have random outbreaks of violence, and the previous inhabitants of the neighborhood no longer feel safe, and they move out of town, and you take over the neighborhood. That's why you have people concerned when New York Mayor Mondami said February 26, 2026, Islam, a religion built on a narrative of migration. The story of the Hijra reminds us that the prophet Muhammad was a stranger to who fled Mecca and was welcomed in Medina.

21:12 And five years later, there wasn't a Jew left in Medina. They were chased out, killed or enslaved. And so this process is you come in as an immigrant, as a refugee, you build a community and get involved in politics. And then you start voting in Sharia and then you have random outbreaks of violence and rapes and knives and acid attacks and the previous inhabitants of the neighborhood no longer feel safe. And they move out and you take over the neighborhood. And, uh, so we're sort of halfway between the second and the third stage. Uh, but Europe is, is pretty well gone. Um, but in some, but in some cases here in America, we're, we're there. I mean, they have moved people out. They've taken over communities. Uh, Christian churches have been abandoned. They've turned them into mosque in some cities, uh, Sharia law. They're, they're, you know, demanding that, uh, They have Sharia courts. They have their own law in their areas here in, you know, in America, Bill.

22:07 Yeah, so it's a parallel legal system. So forget what the Constitution and the federal state laws are. In our neighborhood, we're following our Sharia law. Very similar to the MS-13 gang, which takes over a neighborhood. And they market with the spray paint, with the tennis shoes over the power lines. and they have their own laws. They have their laws for pimps and prostitutes and who gets the booty and how you have to pay back your drug lord. And then they have sex trafficking of girls, very similar to Islam, where you have child brides. And if you leave MS-13 gang, they kill you. It's called blood in, blood out. Same way with Islam. They say, okay, we're going to take over a neighborhood and we're going to have our own laws.

22:50 We're going to have You can have four wives. You can put them on welfare. And the guy visits his wives. The more kids they have, the larger the checks get. He's living like a prince with his harem, all paid for at state expense. And Muhammad Junga's wife was nine. And so a lot of these have their young child brides. And if you want to leave Islam, they kill you. It's called the Riddle Laws. I spoke at a conference with Rick Green and Gene Bailey a while back. And right next to me on the podium was Nazar Hussein. And Nisar Hussein is a Pakistani Muslim in England who became a Christian. And his friends tried to kill him multiple times. There's video cameras from his apartment complex on the street where they get out of the car with baseball bats and they're pounding him on the street and they climb over the fence and throw bricks through his car and firebomb his car.

23:38 He has to flee at 3 a.m. So they don't track him. And he started an organization in England called Legalize Apostasy. I'm like, say that again. Yeah, Legalize Apostasy. Make it legal that you can leave Islam and not get killed. Today, right? This is right. So these are the neighborhood laws. This is a parallel legal system that they want to set up. And so the oath of naturalization to become a citizen in America, you're supposed to forswear and abjure any allegiance to any foreign king power or political system and swear allegiance to the Constitution and make the oath without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. And so how can you say I want a one-world caliphate under Sharia law, yet I want to uphold this constitution? They view Sharia law as top-down divine law, and they view our constitution as man-made law, bottom-up. And they hate man-made law. So there's a problem. When they want to come in, they want to get elected, and then they want to gradually institute our holidays, and then they want to de-emphasize Christian holidays, and then change them into spring break, and in winter break rather than Easter and Christmas. And then they want to shame you and say, you're hateful and you don't know it.

24:50 You're like, what? Well, you have Saturday and Sunday off. That's offensive to us Muslims. Friday is our holy day. And you need to relearn everything and make yourself. And so they end up coming in and then end up taking over. And it's judgment. Deuteronomy 28 says blessings and cursings. And if you hearken to the voice of the Lord, you'll be the head, not the tail. But if a nation does not hearken to the voice of the Lord, The stranger will come in amongst them and rise up above them, and they will be the head and you'll be the tail. So how did God judge ancient Israel when they sinned? He let the stranger come in. The Amalekite, the Edomite, the Moabite, the Termite, Mosquitobite, Parasite, all the ites. And then they repented, and then he raised up a deliverer. Then they were good for 40 years until they backslid again.

25:33 So dead things attract devourers. A dead dog is going to attract buzzards. A dead bird is going to attract ants. And a spiritually dead nation is going to attract devourers. And what do you do when you're under judgment? Repent really fast. Jeremiah 18 says, if I pronounce judgment on a nation and they repent, I won't judge them. It's like a magnet attracting judgment, but you repent and flip the magnet. It repels the judgment and it attracts God's blessings. And all repentance is individual. It's not somebody out there. It's me. It's each one of us returning to our first love and reading the Bible and praying and praising the Lord and getting involved in letting him use us to... share the gospel and run for office and protect the innocent kids.

26:14 We love the Muslim. We want them to get saved. But we also love our teenage girls and don't want them being caught up in rape gangs like there are in England. Well, Bill Fetter, we got to leave it there. How can people be in touch with you and participate with the American Minute? Well, thanks. My website is AmericanMinute.com. Have you written a book or do you have a manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher? Christian Faith Publishing supports authors like yourself to bring their books to life. And right now we're offering you a free writer's guide designed to steer you towards book completion. Christian Faith Publishing evaluates each manuscript we receive. If your book earns approval, we take care of everything. Editing, designing, print, promotion and widespread online and in-store distribution picture your book gracing the shelves of specialty christian bookstores amazon barnes and noble and numerous other retail destinations it's time to get that manuscript published and to work with a publisher who shares your values of integrity and honesty you can get your book published get your manuscript reviewed and a free writer's guide today 800-439-1588.

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30:04 Welcome, Bill Martinez here along with the American Minute creator, Bill Federer. Hey, Bill, how are you? Great to be with you. Well, good to have you with us to talk about this incredible date, the 25th anniversary of 9-11 and what that has done to America and what it continues to do to America. I mean, the rippling effect of what happened on 9-11 continues to this day. 25 years later, won't you say? Yeah. You know, one date I mentioned previously that Islam is a team religion. There's no concept of an individual relationship with Allah. It's Uma. It's a community. Your salvation is belonging to this community. And if you leave Islam, they kill you. So you get some emotional support when you join, but if you want to leave, they team up and kill you. And So your salvation is with the group.

31:04 So they have no concept. So as a group, as a team, if your team loses the playoffs, how does your team regain the playoffs? Maybe win, right? They regain your honor by winning the playoffs. And so if they have September 11th is when the Muslims lost the Battle of Malta, 1565, the Battle of Vienna, 1683, the Battle of Zenta in 1697. These were major losses. that marked their history. And so that's the thought of why they picked September 11th to try to reclaim their honor by saying this is the date they're going to win. And one is September 11th, 2012. Benghazi. A little background people don't remember is the United Nations that Eleanor Roosevelt in 1948 adopted the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Now, the entire U.N. left out the creator. So it's just what the countries agree upon. And so she says, U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 18. Everyone has a right to freedom of thought, conscience, religion. The right includes freedom to change his religious belief. Sounds nice. Except 57 countries inside the U.N. decide to start their subgroup inside the U.N., called the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, OIC. And they said, well,

32:35 guess what? We're not going to allow freedom of religion. You cannot convert to another faith. Women are not equal to men. The guy can have four wives. He can discipline his wife, but he's not supposed to leave a bruise. I mean, this is all the Sharia law. So in 1990, the OIC passed the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights that says it's the death penalty for leaving Islam. You punish women who are victims of rape. You allow men to be polygamous. You permit wife-beating, and you censor speech insulting Islam. Now, who was there at this event was Hillary Clinton. And so she helps organize this closed-door meeting of the OIC, which criminalizes any speech insulting Islam.

33:23 Here is the modern-day feminist, so to speak, Hillary Clinton... participating in an anti-feminist, you know, collaboration, right? For lack of a better word. This is incredible. And by definition, anything that's not Islam insults Islam. So when they say they want to criminalize speech insulting Islam, they want to criminalize anybody. So it wants to make the whole world into dimmy status. So when Khalifa Omar was conquering Jerusalem and they didn't have an army because the Seventh-century war between the Romans and the Persians, or Iran, left both Persia and Iran weakened.

34:04 There was no army that could come to Jerusalem's rescue, and so the leader of Jerusalem, the patriarch, brokers a deal. Instead of two choices, convert or die, you get a third choice. You can be a dhimmi, a second-class citizen that cannot insult Islam and has to pay taxes to your new Muslim overlords. And that went into the DNA of Islam, so where you cannot insult it and you have to pay Like in Minneapolis, Minnesota, the people have, immigrants have no problem living off the tax fraud. Oh yeah, sure. So the OIC has their general secretary Ekmelden Isanulgul. I obviously did not pronounce that correctly, but he said the Istanbul process initiated by Senator, excuse me, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton must be carried forward. And then Clinton added, we now need to move to implementation. So that was, uh, at the, uh, end December of 2011. And so now a year later, you have 2012 on September 11th, uh, ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya has been requesting and requesting and requesting security from Hillary Clinton. She keeps denying it.

35:18 And then there's the Benghazi attack. Um, and, uh, Hillary immediately blames the attack on speech insulting Islam. It's these people that made a YouTube video and insulted it and stirred the Muslims up. So we need to ban people worldwide from insulting Islam. U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, added to that narrative. And then President Obama. Yeah, she went on all the Sunday shows backing up that narrative. And then Obama at the UN General Assembly said the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. And so this is gaining steam until somebody begins to find Chris Stevens's journal. And he's talking about how they've been threatening to attack for months and months and months. It's like, okay, the threatened attack had nothing to do with a video insulting Islam. It was a total creative, created narrative. And so we then find out that Benghazi, Hillary Clinton, was funneling arms from Benghazi over to Syria to oust the leader Assad. So Hillary was running this gun running operation there. So the U.S., under Obama...

36:46 was arming and training the terrorists, so much so that in 2016, Tulsi Gabbard introduced a Stop Arming Terrorists Act. And the New York Times had the article that says, President Trump has ended the clandestine American program that provided arms and supplies to the Syrian rebel groups. And so this is what was happening. We were arming and training terrorists the fundamentalist Muslims to overthrow the moderates so they could put in Sharia. You had Mubarak, who was our ally in Egypt, and he was friends with America. Obama goes over there and disinvites Mubarak and fills the room filled full of Muslim Brotherhood people. And so this was, again, September 11th. We have the 2012 is the date of of this attack in Benghazi. And we have shown that they have attacked on this date over and over again.

37:52 Yeah. And but to this day, this is the thing that really upsets a lot of Americans, Bill, is to this day, there's no consequences. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, his entire administration, you know, doing all this supposedly in this, quote unquote, scandal free administration. Right. They do all this, create this problem. An ambassador is killed along with three other soldiers, American soldiers and patriots. And, you know, there's no consequence. There's no payment for it. You know, about two months ago, I was having dinner with a person who worked in the government under Mayorkas.

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42:47 Bill Federer, the American Minute. Creator, is back with us right now. And you were just relating the story about Mayorkas. You know, it wasn't by accident. It kind of reminds me of during the Biden era. Remember when those stickers that they had, you know, with Biden on the gas pumps going, I did that. You know, it was like it's. I mean, like all this craziness that came in, you know, for four years under Joe Biden. Yeah, it's him and his people. They did it. Yeah, yeah. And it was interesting that here's somebody that worked under Mayorkas.

43:29 And we were talking about all the immigrants that came across the border. He goes, oh, yeah, millions of them. We did it. They actually down in Panama where they had the Darien Gap. That's right. Exactly. Very dangerous that our U S government cleared about a third of it and made it so that, and then they, they had a U S it's almost like a mall for them to, you know, get refreshed and buy stuff. It was like a, a. Little T-shirts and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. And so it was a, a inside U S government plan to flood America with these illegals. And lots of them were Chinese military people. and also Islamists coming across the border.

44:14 Bill, why? I mean, do they hate America that much that they wanted to disassemble this great country of ours? Was that their motivation? Yeah, it's the globalist plan. I mean, it goes back 50, 100 years, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations. You have Klaus Schwab, and he says that the United States is the last roadblock to establishing a world government. You have, Brock Chisholm was the first director of the World Health Organization. And he said, to achieve world government, we must necessarily remove from the minds of men their national patriotism. And, you know, so they actually, you know, give money to support these leftist groups, but then they also give money to woke seminaries to teach for Christians not to get involved in politics. It's like, okay, you don't get involved, but we're going to give money for you to do get involved. And you got Christians buying it. I mean, Muslims move into neighborhoods and they vote a hundred percent. Again, it's not a personal relationship with Allah religion. You do what your imam tells you. What the imam says is permitted is permitted. It is called halal. The imam says it's not permitted. It is not permitted. It's called haram.

45:32 And so Muhammad liked cats. Cats are halal. They are permitted. Muhammad did not like dogs. Dogs are haram. They're not permitted. So sharia is a long list of do's and don'ts, and it's the local imam that keeps the list. And if you don't follow it, he will embarrass you publicly in front of everybody in the community in the mosque, and then he'll celebrate you if you do what he says. It's like what a teacher does in a classroom. So if a student holds old traditional values, the teacher will shame them and embarrass them in front of their classmates. It's called social-emotional learning, where you inflict emotional harm on the child for holding old-fashioned views. And then you celebrate a kid if they come out transgender. And all these little kids want to be invited to the party, and nobody wants to be left off the team. So you're manipulating their desire to be accepted to push an agenda.

46:26 It's the same way what the imam does. So Islam is a peer pressure religion. It's not an individual. And if the imam says, okay, this is what's permitted, that's fine. But if it's not permitted, you can't do it. And this is why, again, people need to understand why people hate Donald Trump so much, because he's always maligned as being a nationalist, make America great again. It's about the great American idea and preserving that. Well, that's an anathema against the World Economic Forum and this movement for a one world government. Yeah. And so we're barely getting 30% of Christians who vote, Muslims come in, they vote nearly 100%. Yes, exactly. And they have no problem with voter fraud. There's James O'Keefe type videos of Detroit area where they sit around their kitchen table and forge ballots. And then at midnight have a auction. And then whoever wins, they have some young guy drop the ballots off in a drop-off box. And so they don't have a concept of one person, one vote.

47:26 It's our team against their team. And whatever our team can do to win. And they morally justified because their goal is a one-world Islamic government called the caliphate. So whatever can help them reach that goal is morally justified. Where we have a moral goal of you're not supposed to lie. But they can lie in Islam. It's called taqiyya, sacred lying. Now, there's lots of moderate Muslims, and they prefer to be moderate. But if the fundamental ones are gaining the momentum and threatening to kill them, then they don't want to be killed. And so they end up joining and it turns into a snowball effect.

48:06 Well, it's an easy transition for them. Honey, guess what? You're going to put on the burka, you know, because the power is taken over. Chuck Missler, who I studied under in California for a while, he was, you may know that name. He was a, I think it was a nuclear scientist. This guy was a brainiac. And he had talked about this, gosh, I remember at a conference that I was with him you know, probably about, uh, 25 years ago, at least, uh, of course he's since passed, but he said, this is how Muslims work up until about 5%. You know, they're compliant. They just kind of go along to get along. Uh, but like you said, Takiyah is in the works, you know, they lie, the end justifies the means. Uh, there's no conscious, there's no shame for that. Uh, but then when they start to get over 5% of the population, that's when they begin to move and, uh, take over things like, you know, you see what's happening in, uh, in Minneapolis. Bill, 82,000 Somalis, like you said, they vote as a bloc, and they've taken over the entire state. Yeah.

49:06 By the way, I got the privilege of speaking at several of Chuck Missler's conferences in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, before he passed, and it was a real honor. But yeah, and the dilemma is the moderate Muslim would prefer to be moderate and enjoy Western food and freedom and dress and fashions. But if the fundamental ones are threatening them and there's no one on the other side pushing back, It's like a drug dealer taking over your neighborhood. And you call the police, they show up and arrest the drug gang. Are you going to call the police again? Yeah. But if you call the police and they don't show up, worse, the drug gang comes to your door and says, we have somebody inside the police department. They said you called and snitched. If you do it again, we'll kill you.

49:55 Are you going to call the police anymore? Probably not. Yeah, exactly. And so if the terrorists do an attack and the non-Muslim world comes down really hard Then they're like, yeah, well, we enjoy the freedoms of the non-Muslim world. But if they don't come down hard, worse, the non-Muslim West finances and supports and leaves $ 85 billion worth of our latest weapons like Biden did in Afghanistan to the Taliban. And like, you know, Reagan, I loved him. But when the U.S. barracks, Marine barracks were blown up in Lebanon in the early 1980s, his response was to pull all the Americans out. And they're like, yeah, America's a paper dragon. Or like Jimmy Carter, the Shah was our friend for 37 years and had freedom in Iran. But Jimmy Carter pressures him to leave in 1979 and brings in the Ayatollah. And so when the non-Muslim world sees America, not only not standing up, but facilitating the fundamental ones, then they're like, well, we don't want to get killed. They're not going to defend us.

50:58 I guess we have to lean in the fundamental direction. And it turns into this snowball effect. Well, Bill, we got about a minute and a half left here. So I'm going to let you summarize and wrap things up on this, the 25th anniversary of September 11th, 2001. What we saw happen in Shanksville, what we saw happen at the Pentagon, and what we experienced there in lower Manhattan. Yeah, Robin Simcox of the Heritage Foundation said on January 29th, 2018, Some of the problems the Trump administration is now trying to resolve are those the Obama administration helped create. Trump deserves credit for hastening the downfall of the ISIS caliphate. However, the war is not over. The threat has mutated and will continue to mutate. Islamism is an ideology with its own propulsion. So we have to be on guard. A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. There's a great quote from Eisenhower. When the communists were coming into America wanting to use our freedoms, And then overthrow the government so they could establish communism. Eisenhower said no group can use the Bill of Rights to destroy the Bill of Rights. In other words, you can't come in and say we want freedom of religion, but our goal is Sharia. Well, we are not going to allow freedom of religion. We have to understand this. So the book I wrote on it is called What Every American Needs to Know About the Quran, A History of Islam in the United States. What Every American Needs to Know About the Quran. And my website is AmericanMinute.com.

52:32 Well, Bill Fetter, always a privilege and honor to have you on the show. Thank you so much for the time. Again, the website one more time and how they can subscribe to the American Minute on a daily basis, Bill Fetter. Oh, thanks. It's AmericanMinute.com. And you can put your email in there and you'll get history emails from me. We call ourselves ASAP Travel for one reason. We can help you book a ticket ASAP. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time. You get through right away. No searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fares on the big name airlines. You know them. We can't tell you their names. You can fly domestically or internationally and save more money than you could if you call the airlines directly. Our proprietary software goes underneath the hood of the major airline booking systems and finds you the best rates available. So if you're ready to make your travel plans right now, business or vacation travel, we have all the major airlines always at great rates. Call ASAP Trips and we'll have your ticket in your inbox in 15 minutes. Call this number now.

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54:16 Thank you, Bill. Good to be back. Well, a little bit of the background here for those of you that I don't know how you'd be missing Terry because she's she's been. so out there when it comes to life. She's the author of Pro-Life Activist and founder and president of the Hosea Initiative in 2009. She was personally commissioned by Dr. Bernard Nathanson, NARAL's co-founder. He was the architect of the modern abortion movement to share his deathbed conversion and reveal how America was deceived about abortion. And this has been a This has been her recent march and commitment for a decade plus now, right, Terry? That's it. Oh, yeah, plus, a decade plus.

54:59 Yeah, don't forget the plus, yes, exactly. His legacy is so, it's more relevant today, Bill, than any time in history because he's the one who deceived, he and his partner, Lawrence Slater, deceived the United States Supreme Court into that whole Roe v. Wade decision. He's the one who trained Planned Parenthood doctors on how to, quite frankly, slaughter babies in the womb. And he's the doctor who did what Dr. Fauci said to do, which is follow the science. Right. After Nathanson starting in 1973, the same year we got Roe v. Wade, what Americans don't know is that the father of the modern day abortion industry followed the science of real-time ultrasound, which was a brand new invention back in 1973. And he was an atheist. As an atheist, he saw that baby moving and yawning and stretching on real-time ultrasound. And the father of America's industry of abortion begins... his pro-life conversion. And nobody knows his story.

56:07 Right, exactly. Well, and you were charged to be the one to carry this message out. And it was a huge mea culpa on Nathanson's part because, you know, he had to realize, like we all do, is that we're going to be judged. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm glad you mentioned that because I interviewed him on December 1st, 2009. at his apartment in Manhattan, New York. And he had been pro-life, 100% pro-life since 1979. So it took him from 1973 to 1979 to make that 100% conversion. Rape, incest, life of the mother. There's no reason to ever go kill the baby. You know, it's the life of the mother. It's, well, if the mother's life is in danger, remove the baby, but remove the baby at least with the intention of trying to preserve the baby's life, right? Okay, so he had been pro-life 100% since 1979. He spent the second half of the 1980s contemplating suicide. because he had really come to grips with what he had done in unleashing this culture of death.

57:23 He, along with how many women that had abortions that have committed suicide or have been, you know, have certainly considered suicide. We know that, that it's very well documentary. Yes, it is. And that's, that's very much covered up. And in fact, the other day I was talking with a lady who used to be a physician's assistant. She's now retired, but she was a PA physician assistant at the VA hospital. And she said years ago, so we got Roe v. Wade, 1973. I believe she was talking about like the late eighties into the nineties, maybe into the early two thousands as well.

58:05 And she said, all of a sudden, they started seeing women coming in in their 40s and 50s in the VA hospital, and they were having anxiety attacks. And she'd run all sorts of tests and all this. Nothing would ever show. And then she learned that the questions she needed to be asking is do you have abortion in your past? Your history, yeah. And she said, I'm like, you mean every, and she's like, yes, Terry, every single woman who was coming in with those symptoms, all of them said yes. And they'd either burst out crying or they'd realized that they had never dealt with that grief. And so we have a nation, Bill, with millions of women who are dealing with this or they've never dealt with it. And so why is Nathanson's story so relevant?

58:58 Here it is. Because nobody, nobody, including that woman who's had three or four or five abortions, okay, because she just didn't know, nobody can out-abort Dr. Bernard Nathanson. He was personalized. responsible for 75,000 abortions, including two of his own children, okay? And he came clean. He did his 100% pro-life conversion as an atheist. And then on December 8th, December 6th? Oh my gosh, I'm blank. December 8th, 1996, Dr. Nathanson became a baptized child of God at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City. He laid down his way to the Lord's way, and he received the love and mercy of Jesus Christ, which is why we're doing that Mercy for Life Sunday, October 11th.

59:51 Okay, seeing, being since you brought this up, now this is a a nationwide coordination. You got 250 plus churches involved, united in prayer and interceding on October the 11th this year on America's 250th birthday. Go ahead and tell us more about that. Yeah. So our, you know, it's our birthday, 250 years, all year long, right? And we went into prayer, you know, trying to figure out what do we gift a nation in its 250th anniversary of independence and freedom And what our nation needs more than anything is God's unfathomable mercy for our apathetic response to legalized abortion. Because we now have 65 million children who have died at the hands of an abortionist. And so what we're doing is we've launched this. I mean, our goal is minimum 250 churches.

1:00:49 We need more churches signed up when we want them in all 50 states. Not one state left behind. And so what is it? It's during Mass, after Mass, during the prayer service or after the prayer service or whatever. And even if the pastor says, no, I'm not going to participate in this. Well, then let the body of Christ come together after the prayer service or the Mass and lift up very specific prayers. And we have those prayers posted. On the website. It's right there. So if people go to Hosea4u. org, so it's H-O-S-E-A, like the book in the Bible, Hosea, the number four, and then Y-O-U, Hosea4u. org. And look for the tab up top that says Mercy for Life. Click that open.

1:01:43 It explains everything I just went over. It shows you the four or five buckets of prayer that And then as you scroll down, we have all the different downloads. Like, what do I take my pastor to introduce this? And we have a letter to the pastor. We have general information form. We've got the top 10 facts about Dr. Bernard Nathanson. And then below that section, we have the one page of prayers of the faithful. And it covers everything. And if the church, if the body of Christ, and I don't care what flavor, okay? If the body of Christ would come together on October 11th during mass, after mass, during the prayer service, or after the prayer service, if the pastors aren't going to lead, well, then you got to lead for them. And that way, if they're too afraid of this issue and just lift up these prayers, seeking God's unfathomable mercy. And so we need churches in all 50 states. So people go onto the website, they click on, I'm interested in bringing this to my church and go ahead and give us your contact information. Once you've gotten approval from your pastor, come back and fill it out again and give us the name of the church, the pastor's name, maybe the contact info. But worst case scenario, let not one church go by where somebody from that church is not is at least one person at the church lifting up these prayers.

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1:08:12 And what a lot of pastors, priests included, do not really, it's hard for them to get their brain around. But, you know, Barna has done research on this, other groups as well. Approximately a third of the women in the pews on Sunday or during their weekend services have experienced an abortion. So now let's relate that to the families in the pew. You probably are getting maybe about 40, maybe even close to 50%. So almost half of the people in the pews, they're attending church, have been affected by an abortion. And it is one of these silent mental killers that is devastating women. And I dare say, you and I talked about this last time, is more and more men are coming to the reality because men are natural protectors of the family. And they're coming to the realization. that, oh, my God, look at what I've done.

1:09:03 Can God forgive me? And yes, God can forgive and God will forgive. All one has to do is repent for his or her sin for the involvement of abortion. Fall on your bended knee, pour your heart out to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And he promises us he will forgive you. That's the beginning of that whole healing process. That's what Dr. Nathanson had to do. He spent a number of years going to psychologists, psychiatrists. He went back, even though he did not have an, what do you say, an ounce of faith in his life. But he went back to a Jewish rabbi and he said, you know, I feel really bad about all the abortions and unleashing that. But the rabbi didn't have the answers for Dr. Nathanson. And just, I mean, his path crossed with a clergyman, happened to be a Catholic priest. And for five years, Dr. Nathanson and the Catholic priests would read the Bible, would read great books like from G.K. Chesterton, Thomas Merton, reading all these great writers of the past. And somewhere in the five and a half years, Dr. Nathanson stopped contemplating suicide, and he began contemplating the love and mercy of who we call Jesus Christ.

1:10:34 Yeah. And that's when he was baptized, December 1996. So what God, I believe, is doing with this powerful, true story of Dr. Nathanson, it's leading the way to help people realize that, well, wow, if God could forgive Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who unleashed all this onto our nation, surely God could forgive me. And that's what's happening, Bill. And I believe October 11th is going to be a breakthrough for our nation. So in a perfect world, this is what it would look like in a perfect world. The pastor would say, oh, I think this is a great idea. He or she would equip every family of their church with at least one fact check booklet, which people can go get those on our website. It's called America's Abortion King, His Journey from Deceit to Divine Mercy. It's very inexpensive and it's even less expensive. It's like $ 4 or so for an individual.

1:11:41 The church or anybody can get a case of 200, which it ends up being like $ 1. 70 or something per booklet. And it teaches you just enough of the Dr. Bernard Nathanson legacy, the eight-point strategy of deception, his parting message to America, which he told me to deliver. And I would be remiss if I did not share that. So in a perfect world, the pastor says, yes, we're going to do this. Every family gets equipped with a fact check booklet. And he starts teaching people about Dr. Bernard Nathanson, perhaps even before October 11th. And then the church together, collectively, let's lift up those prayers. We'll get signed up for our email so we can continue because we're all about expanding We call it educate for action. Expose the lies, educate for action, stop the killing. I believe, Bill, when we do what the word of God says, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. It doesn't say my people are destroyed for voting for the wrong political party or da-da-da-da, which does have major implications. But the main thing is... It's for lack of knowledge. So, you know, I meet people every day who did not know that there are many politicians and there's a political party. I'm not going to name which one, but they are for killing babies all nine months of pregnancy, including when the baby's coming down the birth canal. And that could be like.

1:13:09 You know what? I really don't want this baby. Go kill it. I don't want this baby. That's literally legal now in, well, quite frankly, if you look at, anyway, in many, many states, they've now ratified that in law and we're losing the states. I mean, Roe v. Wade's overturned, but now it's, it's a, the issue is in the state's hands and we're losing the states left and right. And this is why Nathanson's legacy is so important. We have to wake up first, the body of Christ, And if we can get those people educated, they can go educate other people who may not know the Lord yet. And guess what? We've created a revolution to unite the United States of America.

1:13:49 Right now, we're a divided country. We have to be the United States of America. And the number one thing we have to be united on is united on life, united on the fact that every single human being has the right to life. Exactly. Well, what united us in the first place, Terry, was the word of God. And it's the word of God that will break that stony heart. That needs to come to the forefront because there is a call for repentance. But you don't repent if you don't know what you're repenting for. Right. Exactly. And so you need to bring that needs to come into focus is that what we have done is we grieved a holy God. And when you get your brain around that, and I think that's what Bernard Nathanson finally came to that realization, is that he offended God. But as you said, God in his grace and mercy is just waiting for us to say, Father, I am sorry.

1:14:46 Please forgive me. And I think people will find themselves very blessed and amazed at how forgiving God is. May I tell you one story about a man I met at a Baptist church ever so quickly? Okay. It drives the point home. There was a Baptist minister in Virginia who wanted me to come and present all about Dr. Bernard Nathanson. I call it the deadliest American hoax. It's about an hour presentation. And the church was packed. It was on a Wednesday night. Wow. And when it was over, people were walking up thanking me. But one man walked up and I must have been standing on the the step, because I remember sort of looking down at him. And the reason I share that is because he was looking up at me in the most childlike way. That's the only reason I'm sharing this.

1:15:36 Like I'm looking down at him, he's looking up at me and he said, Ms. Beatley. And this guy was 50 some years old, pushing 60. And he said, thank you for coming and sharing this legacy. He said, until tonight, he said, I've been going to this church since I was a little boy. I'm here every Wednesday night, every Sunday night. And he said, and it's not the pastor's fault. He said, but I literally thought abortion was literally a woman's right. It was a woman's right to choose until I learned tonight that that was one of the eight points of propaganda Dr. Nathanson devised. I'm like, Thank you.

1:16:18 And I've told that what I just told you and your listening audience, I've told that all across America, this, this battle, I consider it done when more and more men step into the fray, step into this battle. And it starts with get educated. Okay. I don't say this to just tout the book because I want millions of books sold. No, I wrote it to educate America. We've got two things. We've got the big book called what if we've been wrong and, And you can go right to Amazon and get that. And then we've got the fact check booklet. And we wrote that because we knew not everybody's going to read the big book and learn the real full, full backstory. But that fact check booklet, which is like $ 4 or $ 4. 50, something like that, it teaches everybody just enough. And it's so nice. You don't want to throw it away. And you can sit down with somebody and share. Like if your granddaughter says, you know, granddad, I'm pro-choice. I just graduated from college, and I learned it's a woman's right to choose. Well, granddad could say, sweetheart, I know you think you're pro-choice, which technically means pro-abortion.

1:17:26 But sweetheart, have you ever heard of the man named Dr. Bernard Nathanson? No, granddad, I've never even heard of him. Who's that? Well, sweetheart, come on over here. I'm going to sit in my recliner, and you sit over there, grab the pillow and the blanket, and I'm going to tell you a story. about a man named Dr. Bernard Nathanson. And I promise you, Bill, that if we can teach men and women across America to share this beautiful, beautiful story from deceit to divine mercy, we will be lighting a fire of truth across our nation. And we will, I'm already seeing it, but we, millions of more people will see this. Romans 8, 28 God promises us, it's a promise that all things work together for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to his promise.

1:18:23 That even includes the legacy of Dr. Bernard Nathanson. It's like people would be like, what good can come from Bernard Nathanson's story? What good can come from it is make it widely known because he didn't die an abortionist, Bill. He died a baptized child of God, fully repentant for this culture of death. He left behind, and he wanted everybody to know this. And I'll wrap it up with this. At the end of the interview on December 1st, 2009, I didn't go there for this. In fact, I didn't even think the interview was going to happen. But I didn't have this question written down. I asked it because I felt so sorry for this 83-year-old terminally ill dying man.

1:19:08 He was dying of cancer. And he was very, very frail. And at the end, I said, Dr. Nathanson, I know you're too sick to get your message out anymore. If you have a message for America, and if you tell me what it is, I promise you I'll deliver it across our country until it becomes common knowledge for Roe v. Wade's overturned or I die, whichever one comes first. And Dr. Nathanson, and honestly, I thought he was going to say, Terry, my day is done. You know, I'm not going to be around very much longer. You pro-lifers take it from here. He didn't, Bill. He looked up at me and he said, because I think I was standing them. And he looked up at me with the only time there was a little glimmer of hope in his eyes. And he said the following. He said, yes. He said, teach the strategy.

1:19:59 of how I deceived America. Wow. And that's all in that little $ 4 fact check booklet. And then he said, and then tell America that the co-founder of NARAL Pro-Choice America, which was the pro-abortion political action organization he founded in the late 60s. So he said that the co-founder of NARAL Pro-Choice America says to love one another, abortion is not love. Stop the killing. The world needs more love. And I'm all about love now. Wow. Terry Beatley, the author, pro-life activist and founder and president of the Hosea Initiative. Terry, again, the website as we wrap up.

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1:23:36 Hey, welcome back. Good to have you here, Bill Martinez. For more information on the show, you can go to BillMartinezLive.com. Got a real treat for you. Hall of Famer, Rondé Barber's in the house, getting ready to talk fantasy football stress and all kinds of good football history and fun. I got to tell you, Rondé, in preparation, I was looking at some old footage, just remembering your career, 16 years in the NFL, Hall of Famer. Wow. How much fun is that? It was fun. You know what? I wouldn't change it for anything. Even the slow start that I had to my career, which was very stressful, by the way. The next 15 years were pretty good. Got a Super Bowl championship and ended up with a gold jacket. So I had a good run, man.

1:24:19 It was awesome. Well, between you and your twin brother, I mean, it must be fun whenever you guys get together and be able to reminisce, huh? It absolutely is. He did go to a Super Bowl here in Tampa and lost. And I did go to a Super Bowl and won. And he has yet to put on a gold jacket. So I got bragging rights. That's all I know. Well, you're older. So the older brother should always get bragging rights, right? Yes. Yes. And mom likes me best. But we won't remind him of that. Well, we know that football has become a 24-7 experience between fantasy lineups, nonstop injury updates, social media, sports betting, and, of course, the emotional roller coaster of wins and losses. And fans are staying connected long after the game ends. But as we know, football doesn't always end with a final whistle.

1:25:05 And Rondé Barber is with us right now. He's teaming up with Dentech. And the number one OTC dental night guard brand to share surprising findings from the new Dentek football stress test and to help us manage this seasonal stress that goes along with football, right? Absolutely. Football is not just a few hours on Sundays anymore. Actually, it's like every day. It seems like the NFL season starts on Wednesday this this next week. So, yeah, it's a 24 hour proposition these days. So it's it's definitely different than it was in my playing day. Well, what is it about the football season that makes it so stressful, Rondé?

1:25:47 Well, this study with Stentec stress test study, football stress test, tells you how long it actually stays with people. 78% of fans say that after the game ends, they're still thinking about it. And then 77% are thinking about it when they go to bed. And if you're like me, you're trying to check scores like 40% that responded in this study. from bed. You're sitting in bed, still thinking about football. So I think the biggest takeaway is that it sticks with you way longer than, than, than you probably think that it does. Well, see, that explains the teeth grinding I've been going through, right? I mean, look at your teeth. You got, you got beautiful teeth. They're all right there. They look great. And you see, but you know, and it's amazing. I mean, you're there banging heads with people. I'm sitting there watching, grinding my teeth while I'm sleeping. What's wrong with it?

1:26:36 That's why you need the Dentek nighttime dental guards. Like seven out of 10 people say they clench or grind their teeth while they're watching football games. And then that translates to when you go to bed. So Dentek has a solution for you. And that's why I'm teaming up with these guys to help try to manage some of that stress that you put on your teeth. Well, exactly. Speaking of this football stress test, any surprises out of this test for you? I think the biggest surprise is literally how long football stays with you. So many fans think that they're just going to watch the football game and it ends. But, of course, it stays with you, especially if your team loses.

1:27:17 So this study, 59% of people from this study said losing is the number one reason that they cause stress. But, of course, that also doesn't factor in what your fantasy football team is doing. Are you following on social media? Are your friends chirping you in text messages? Do you have injury status on your team or your fantasy team? Those type of things cause a lot of stress, and that's what Dentex tried to help alleviate. So what happens, I mean, it's one thing during the season. You've always got next weekend to kind of decompress and take some pressure off your teeth. But after a Super Bowl, I mean, you're waiting months and you're grinding your teeth for months after Super Bowl, right?

1:28:03 Yeah, that's that's a different type of stress. The repeat that needing to repeat stress is totally different than the in the moment trying to win it. Stress and and trust me, we tried to repeat in 2020, 2003 season and it didn't go as planned. But, you know, well, yeah, like you said, that's the hope and aspiration of every team out there. First of all, get the first one and then you go to repeat. And as all athletes who have been there, I mean, you know, you represent less than one percent of humanity on the planet. Right. They go through this kind of talking about stress. But and I've heard it said over and over. again, sometimes it's just a matter of luck. It's just getting the right break. It's one, one play makes the difference. after all those seasons and everything and so close to get a chance to repeat and maybe it's one play that determines it, right?

1:28:54 Right. Well, some people, including myself, don't believe in luck. You know, I'm one of those guys that says preparation, meeting opportunity is what people will then construe as luck. But a lot of it is just. Being, you know, obviously capable of doing it as individually and as a team, but then just putting yourself in a position where, to accomplish what, what you think that you can, or what your, your, you know, your, your team and your, and your organization. Has laid out for you to accomplish. So, I mean, you get some lucky bounces, I guess the ball, it's an oblong sphere. So the ball is going to bounce some awkward ways and, you know, you might get lucky here and there, but the reality is I think you create your own.

1:29:35 No, I agree with you 100%. I mean, luck is what the journalists write about because they're not there, right? I mean, it's got to be luck. I don't understand it, but it's got to be luck or something, right? But little do. They know, all the sweat, tears, and everything that you went through in preparation, all the practices and the whole season and everything. it comes down to that moment, right? It really does. And if you can capture a moment, it's funny because Eminem song, you know, capture that moment, you know, that was our theme song that year. And all we were trying to do in 2002 was just capture a moment. And it was a one moment led to another moment to another moment. Next thing you know, you're standing, you know, in the center of the field with the Lombardi trophy, you know, in February, which was pretty awesome.

1:30:18 That, that, that's just has to be. And then of course then, You get the Hall of Fame experience and everything. I mean, what a career. I mean, do you feel like your life has just been one continuous catching of lightning in the bottle? Yeah. You know what? You could say that. I wish I could say that I planned it all that way, but that's not at all how it played itself out. You know, the reality is, you know, you start this game when you're young and you keep taking the next step. What's the next step? High school, then college, then the pros. And then, you know, you start taking inventory at the end. And for me, that ended up, you know, resulting in a gold jacket. So I consider myself pretty fortunate.

1:30:58 Yeah. And today, I mean, these young kids, Rondé, I mean, when when you were growing up and you were going through the process, you know, it seemed, you know, compared to these young kids today. I mean, it's almost like they're born and they're they're they're putting a football helmet on them and they're going in and they're they're competitive. They're involved in travel teams already right out the gate. Right. That's with all sports. Football, for sure. But my daughter played lacrosse. It's like that. You start early and it's curated throughout your entire life. And by that, by having that in place, people know about kids well before they knew about them when I was playing. You had to actually get to the promised land before people started talking to you. Now, these kids are 13 and 14 and people have a radar on them already. So They're actually probably dealing with more stress than we ever did.

1:31:49 Yeah. Well, since fantasy football is such a big part of the experience now, it's become so much a part of Americana. So what are you watching as the season gets underway? I'm thinking about my fantasy team. What running back do I want that's going to score the most points? Is that Bijan? Is that Jameer? Is that C Mac? You know, I personally, my personal favorite is Jonathan Taylor. But yeah, it's that it's obviously, do I want the bucks to do well? Of course I cover them in the preseason. I want to see how Baker and his team's going to, you know, rally after not winning the NFC South for the first time in five years and But, you know, I think I do fancy football like everybody else. Which defense do I want? Do I want the Houston Texans? Probably.

1:32:32 Pretty good. Or Denver. You know, those type of decisions are what this part of this year is. It's a ritual of this time of year. Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm here on the East Coast. I moved out here to Florida about 15 years ago. So, yeah, it's go Bucs for me, too. So. As we wrap things up, Rondé, what should fans take away from the football stress test and where can they learn more? They can learn more at Dentek.com. And if you're like a lot of people, including myself, and you have that jaw soreness or the morning headaches or the tooth sensitivity, the Dentek nighttime dental guards are a great solution for you. They have a great line of products. Check it out, Dentek.com.

1:33:14 This stress test is very eye-opening, and I think a lot of people could benefit from this solution. Well, Rondé Barber, Pro Football Hall of Famer, respected football analyst who spent his entire 16-season NFL career with the Tampa Bay Bucs. Rondé, thank you so much for being with us. Take care. Thanks for having me on, buddy. A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from 69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation. This study underscores the remarkable work out-of-school time programs do to help students discover the joy in learning while preparing them to succeed now and into the future.

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1:37:43 Mr. Adam, how are we doing? Bill, I'm great. How are you doing? Hey, I'm doing terrific. I want to talk passion of the Christ. Yeah. I mean, as if my knees didn't give me enough reasons to feel old, I can't believe it's been 22 years since that came out, which Now, I'd have to check my dates, but it practically predates Facebook, YouTube, and the iPhone. So that's how old this movie is. But, of course, it is the tale that transcends time. And the reason that we're seeing a re-release of The Passion of the Christ in theaters in conjunction with Fathom Events is that Mel Gibson is hard at work on his next project, the sequel, which is The Resurrection of the Christ.

1:38:28 It's going to be in two parts. It comes out in 2027 and 28. My guess is there will be some preview material here, which is why they're releasing it. But I think for my money, Bill, this is the most impactful movie about Jesus that's ever been made. And I And that is, it's both a feature, and I won't call it a bug, but I think obviously part of the reason it's so impactful is that Mel Gibson gives us the most unflinchingly realistic depiction of what probably happened to Jesus that has ever been put to film.

1:39:08 And it is one of the hardest, if not the hardest movie you may ever watch. I mean, Schindler's List is hard. Saving Private Ryan is hard. They're hard movies, but um, what Gibson does in bringing us the last few hours of Jesus life before the crucifixion, uh, it's a masterpiece bill. I totally, just in terms of movie making, um, I don't think anything is even really in the same ballpark. Uh, but it does come with that violence that is, uh, it's not a movie that I want to see very often because it's a very, very hard movie to watch. Yeah. It's tough. The scourging scene, no doubt. Uh, I've been at theaters. I've seen women pass out. Many people walk out of it. It's so hard to endure. My prayer is that whatever the reaction, that it is something so powerful that however hard your heart may be, I don't know how it maintains that kind of resiliency. It just can't help but crush you. But My first thought when I, of course, this has been for a couple of years, when I'd heard that Mel Gibson was in the planning stages of doing a follow-up. In a sense, it's a follow-up, but not, because it's not the same cast.

1:40:32 No, he's recasting because it's been too long. But, you know, I thought, oh, how could he possibly top this? And I'm sure that probably goes through his mind as well, and those that are working on this project, because... As you said, the Passion of the Christ was just so incredibly wonderful on many levels. And I say that, but it is just so powerful because it was there. I mean, wasn't it originally? Didn't they rate it X originally? You know, it may have. It may have been. It was, it's so, it's so shockingly powerful. you know, raw in its depiction. And again, I think you, you hinted at it. I think the scourging scene is actually worse than the crucifixion scene. And, but we know from history that when you whip somebody with a whip that has nine different flails with bits of metal and bone and stuff woven into it, it just turns you into hamburger.

1:41:39 It's one thing to read about that, Right. It's another thing to say, because sometimes people wouldn't even make it to a crucifixion, right? It would just, they would die from that alone. It was tantamount to an execution in and of itself. And, you know, I think because of that, virtually every other Christian movie I can think of, and again, I'm generalizing, but most of them sanitize that to some extent. Right. Because it's just, it's horrible. Right. It's, you know, we see Jesus on the cross and he's sanitized. Right. You know, today it's like, no, if you saw Jesus on the cross and this is, I think what, you know, Mel Gibson presented in the passion of the Christ, as you said, I mean, the body of Christ was turned into hamburger. He was sliced up and these executioners, these guys were, you know, 10 degree black belts in utilizing that skirt.

1:42:33 Right. I mean, you know, as the Bible said, you just, You know, you're just carving rows into, you know, into the body. Right. Exactly. And I OK, so I'm pulling this memory out and memories can be fickle things. But I seem to recall reading an interview with Jim Caviezel. Oh, yeah. Talking about what you're going to talk about the filming of that scene. And obviously he has prosthetic, you know, special effects stuff on his back. But there were parts of those whips that got past it and actually got to him. And he said even just a tiny fraction of the end of the whip was more searingly painful than anything he could have imagined. Is that what you were thinking?

1:43:16 Yeah, well, exactly, because I your memory is correct. I interviewed him and he told he was telling me these stories. This is Bill. I got him just like and I'm thinking, wait a minute. I barely got hit and it took the breath out of me. And immediately he's thinking of what Jesus endured. And of course, the whole experience of Passion of Christ, and you and I may have touched on this, and I was just so privileged to have him, you know, was NRB and had the opportunity, it was a blessing to interview him. And he was just so gracious. And he started telling me stories like the time that, you know, Mel Gibson calls for a lunch break. And he's there on the cross. He's hanging on the cross. He's going, hello, Jesus on the cross all by himself.

1:43:59 I want a turkey sandwich too. Right, exactly. You know, and they forgot about Jesus, left him on the cross. And of course, then he talked about when he fell and he dislocated his shoulder. He got hit by lightning. Yeah. And even after everything was said and done, I mean, he, he went into the hospital. I mean, it took him, I, if I remember correctly, and this is where my, my memory fades a little bit, I think he said took over, over a year for him to recover from making that movie for all. I think that that sounds right to me too. And I think it is a testament to, uh, to Jim Caviezel, to what Mel Gibson was doing, but, but obviously, um, Mel Gibson with a few flourishes where Satan is sort of personified as a character. He does take a little bit of dramatic license there, but it's a really faithful depiction of what happened. And I think it's not going to be for everybody. This is not for children, probably. Obviously, parents need to think through that. But for mature teens on up, I think there is an opportunity here to revisit the crucifixion. And we often get these sorts of movies during Easter season. So it's also unusual to have it released this time of year. As we're going back to school, it feels a little bit out of sync.

1:45:27 But I think God will use that too. So definitely, definitely something I think worth considering if you're thinking about going to the movies. I think it's only going to be in theaters a week. through fathom events. So that is the information on that. Well, like you say, Adam, is that, you know, again, God's clock and his timing is his own timing. Yeah, we may look at it, you know, through our eyes of this worldly existence and say, well, I wouldn't quite schedule it then. I mean, usually it's done at Easter. But if there was ever a time, like Charles Finney would say, if there was ever a time that the culture needed it, Maybe now, in light of all that's going on.

1:46:11 9-11. I mean, 9-11. 25 years. The balance, the psychological balance of America right now and the American dream. Are we living the curse? Are we living the blessing? All this is going on right now. And there's lots of ideas and intervention coming in into we the people that maybe this might be that jolt that we need upon our psychological hearts to get our hearts beating in track with God. Is that fair? I think so. I mean, I think if this doesn't jolt you, I don't know what will. I don't know that I have ever experienced a theater more quiet than the one after I saw The Passion of the Christ, except for those who were weeping. And there were several of those. This is, well, I think sometimes we get maybe confused so familiar with the idea of talking about Jesus' sacrifice that we forget what it actually was, right? And this movie will sear it into your mind's eye and into your heart, the price that Jesus paid. And it's not an easy film to watch, but I think there's deep value in what Mel Gibson accomplished with The Passion of the Christ.

1:47:29 Now, The Fathom Events, it's going to be out when, Adam? It started on Wednesday this week. I think it's out for a week. So it'll go through the weekend. So don't wait too long if it's something you're thinking about checking out. Okay, you got Adam Holtz, and he is? I am from Focus on the Families Plugged In. We review movies, music, TV, video games, books, YouTube channels, technology, and more. Come to PluggedIn.com, and we'll talk about all those things with you. If you're 65 or older and Medicare is your main source of insurance, pay close attention right now and listen for details on how you may save thousands of dollars on your health care costs. Did you know that Medicare can pay for things like dental visits, home delivery of drugs, even a gym membership? Call us right now and learn how to unlock all your Medicare benefits, Medicare and supplemental programs.

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