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The Bill Martinez Show 09 09 26

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The Bill Martinez Show 09 09 26
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Are you ready yeah okay let's do it bill martinez

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live a program about current events our culture our values

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our politics and our future and now bill martinez.

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Hey right now six minutes after the top of the

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hour bill martinez here we got christian briggs back with

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us uh we had to go after him hard uh

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he's been running he can hide but we can catch

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up to him sooner or later And we're just glad

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that he's back. He's the CEO of Heart Asset Management

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and a political and economic strategist. Christian, welcome back. Good

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to have you with us.

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Thanks, Bill. Love being here.

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Hey, lots to catch up on. Well, first of all,

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let's talk about these flock cameras and, you know, the

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craziness that that's bringing as if we don't have enough

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to deal with already, right?

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Yeah, you know, flock cameras, 117,000 already installed across the

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United States with another 150,000 expected over the next two years.

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When you start to get about 300,000, and that's a

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pretty good number, but when you start to get to 350, 400,000,

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you're pretty much surveilling about 80% of the people in

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about 600 of the largest cities in America.

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I mean, think about that. I mean, you know, when

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you and I were growing up, not a big worry,

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but we saw the creep. It's a slow creep, but

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now it's like, it's almost like on the other side

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of the mountain, you know, gaining momentum, right?

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Yeah.

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And remember, Flock Camera is owned by Palantir. Palantir holds

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more information and data than any other single company from

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the intelligence communities.

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So what brought this to bear is that, you know,

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we found out that, you know, law enforcement was using

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this for personal purposes, right? And so then all of

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a sudden it was like, oh, you know, the shroud

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is pulled back and we're seeing what's behind the veil.

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And this is pretty crazy.

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Yeah.

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So what you have is law enforcement has to have

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a specific login and password to be able to utilize

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the systems for identifying anybody that might have gone mostly

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traffic violations, red light, running, speeding. But now they're using

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it for a host of things, including some law enforcement officers.

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are using it to track their wives or husbands or

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girlfriends or boyfriends or nieces, nephews or somebody they just met.

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And they're doing it in an extremely nefarious way. And

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what's interesting about it is how many of the law

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enforcement officers have been charged with felonies for doing this.

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And in fact, it's gotten so bad that some cities

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now are talking about banning the cameras altogether.

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Well, yeah. I mean, is it too late to put

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the genie back in the bottle here?

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Oh, it's way too late. Now, this is all tied

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into when you go to the airports, you have your

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digital ID, your biometrics. They actually can see through the

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front windshield so they can match your biometrics face recognition

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with your license plate to confirm it was you who

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was driving. And so if they ever want to use

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it against you for transportation, no problem. Also, it's all

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going digital for your wallet here in the next 18 months.

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We're not going to have much use for cash anymore.

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Mm-hmm.

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So this sounds a little bit like what they've been

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doing in Israel in terms of some, you know, concentric

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lines of defense, that they're doing some preemptive surveilling so

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that even before you get through the, you know, through

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customs or even your first contact with any kind of

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airport personnel, they've got you pretty well profiled to make

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sure that you're not a threat.

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Yeah, pretty much. The biggest thing is, is that what

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determines a threat? Is it political? Is it physical? Is

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it retribution? Is it going to be things where bad

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actors are in control of all the surveillance? And once

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you have the three elements tied together in the next

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two years, that's your transportation, your money, and your health care,

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it'll all be at the centralized systems that the government

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now has built. And Palantir and Flock will be the

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ones that correlate the information and follow you. And if

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they want, they'll turn your money off, your health care off.

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I was going to say, I mean, this is like

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Canada all over again with the trucking incident they had

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a couple of years back, right?

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Yeah, it's 10 times worse, 10 times worse. Because what

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happens is Canada didn't have the cameras. They had the

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ability to turn your money off from deprogramming it. And

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what's interesting about how it's facts tracking here, just think

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what happened to Europe six months ago. They, the central

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bank digital currency, the CBDC with with more flock cameras,

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with Palantir, with the understanding that e-euro will replace cash

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within the next 24 months. So they're pretty much going

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to go 1984 if you've ever read the book.

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Right, exactly. Yeah, who hasn't? In fact, there's a resurgence

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of book reading on 1984 because we're living it out.

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I mean, I remember when I first read that book,

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it was like, okay, well, this is interesting. I mean,

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you could see some of the early evidence is of

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where the trajectory was taking us. But little did we

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know in such a short period of time, especially after 9-11, right?

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Yeah, for sure. After 9-11, no question. The Patriot Act

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ushered in the entire way the book was written. When

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you look at the book and the way it was

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formulated in the 50s, kind of at this futuristic understanding

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of where we're going to have one world government, one

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great reset that kind of changes the whole entire world's

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landscape and centralizes power. Well, when you centralize power, what

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that means is you're controlling the masses with just a

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handful of class type people. And those people now have

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got themselves at a point where they can now just

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flip a couple of switches. We do a few more

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pieces of legislation. We remove the balance of cash from society.

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It's over. And at that point, people are going to

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start wondering what just happened when their wealth is confiscated. Look,

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you don't understand what happened this week in the European Union.

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They just passed the first phase of to take all

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the savings of corporations and individuals next year and let

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the European Union better use your $ 10 trillion in savings,

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look it up, and then they're going to invest it

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how they feel necessary or what they feel is the

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best use of the money. And they'll send you an IOU,

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they said. Now, that sounds pretty good.

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They'll send you an IOU, kind of like our government

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sends us an IOU for Social Security, right?

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Yeah, I did a report a couple of years ago.

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You have to live to 156 years old in order

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to be able to get the value of the money

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you put in it at just a 5% return. So

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God bless if we can live to 156, we'll break

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even on Social Security payments.

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Well, God bless if we could move everybody into Trump accounts.

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Forget about Social Security. It's already bankrupt. I mean, they

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have no shame. in paying up those IOU chits. And

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they have the audacity to tell us that it's going

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bankrupt and it'll be gone. You know, we'll be lucky

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to have it five years from now. So, all right,

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let's quit fooling ourselves. Let's empower the people, give them

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the power to go ahead and open up their own

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individual brokerage accounts and actually have a retirement account that

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grows and works in their best interest as opposed to

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this boondoggle. I mean, what a ruse, Social Security, the

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way it was perpetrated upon the people to even give

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them any kind of false hope, Christian.

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False hope. So when Roosevelt came up with this idea,

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it wasn't a safety net that he knew in the

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same way that we now know it. He knew then

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that eventually it would have to be a government-run system,

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and he was hoping for socialist, and that's why it's

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social security. It's a socialist program. But in his mind,

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he thought he could just take it very much like

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what Obama did with the Affordable Care Act, and that

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is create this absolutely bureaucratic nightmare with red tape, making

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it so convoluted to maintain private insurance with healthcare that

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it would collapse. And that's what Roosevelt wanted was the

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economy to collapse and then go to a socialist communist society.

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And then Obama tried to do it with healthcare. And

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eventually we'll get to a socialized medicine. And then of

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course you'll have coverage will be for everybody, but you'll

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have much, much worse medicine. And that's the sad part

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is that The quality of care goes down dramatically, but

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the coverage goes to everybody. But then you suffer.

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Right, of course. Well, it's shared misery. That's the tradition

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of socialism. Going back to what you were talking about,

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and especially this latest move by the EU and this movement,

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I mean, this continues to move forward. And this is

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this one world government. I mean, all these things are

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being lined up. The trajectory is right there. And you wonder,

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at least I do, is saying, is this inevitable? For

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how long can we push back? I mean, Donald Trump

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has come into office. He's helping us, you know, to

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kind of hold back. you know, the insurgence of the

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European Union, the one world government. And, you know, the

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Democrats forget it. They hate Trump so much they can't

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even see it. Well, they're kind of for a one

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world government anyway, the truth be known. So, you know,

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that serves their purpose and interest. But it doesn't serve

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the interest of over 50 percent of America that, you know,

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still loves their, you know, they still love their jobs.

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They love their homes. And, you know, they want to

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have independence.

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A new study finds a major increase in STEM learning

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in after-school programs, but gaps remain. Today, 92% of parents

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with children in after-school say STEM is available, up from

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69% a decade ago. That's 6.4 million kids now getting

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STEM in after-school. Emma Binet, Overdeck Family Foundation.

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This study underscores the remarkable work out-of-school time programs do

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to help students discover the joy in learning while preparing

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them to succeed now and into the future.

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The study finds rural and low-income students are less likely

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to get frequent STEM opportunities, with rural programs also offering

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fewer opportunities in computer science and technology. Jody Grant, Executive

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Director of the Afterschool Alliance.

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STEM literacy is no longer optional. It's the foundation of

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nearly every aspect of our economy.

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And our world. The next step is clear. Invest more

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in afterschool programs so every child in every community has

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access to STEM learning after school. To learn more, visit AfterSchoolAlliance.org,

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Being a sports fan today means juggling more platforms, subscriptions,

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and technology than ever. New research from IBM finds 46%

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of surveyed fans say their digital sports expectations have risen

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over the past year or two. Nearly three quarters use

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sports apps, while 39% report frustration with managing multiple subscriptions

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to follow sports they care about. AI use among fans

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is also growing, but trust depends on accuracy. 45% of

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respondents say accuracy is the top driver of trust in

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the Gospel of Jesus Christ worldwide in the languages people

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were born to speak. Christians across South Asia, from Afghanistan

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to Pakistan, face a wall of resistance, both legal and social.

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Many believers live in communities.

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Openly hostile to the Gospel, where they are frequently accused

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in many cases, life-threatening. Yet, in the middle of all that,

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people are still responding to the gospel. In Pakistan, the

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We're talking with Christian Briggs, the CEO of Hard Asset Management.

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He's a political economy strategist and congressional advisor. He's also

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the host of Hard Asset Money Show. So what say you, Christian,

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on that?

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Well, I say this, that if the Democrats sweep the

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Senate and the House here in the next few months,

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and then they're successful in 28 to gain back the

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White House, And you have anybody within the administration that

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has the kind of influence that Obama had, a lot

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of his people that he installed in there and appointed

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from various positions, not just in the things of which

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we know from a secretary position, but really behind the scenes,

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especially in the intelligence community, and they leaned far left.

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That will be the way of the country. There's no

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way to reverse how far we've come. One of the

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senior advisors in the Trump administration here in the last

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week or so has recently come out and admitted that

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socialism in America is inevitable. And his timeline was between

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28 and 32. And I'm thinking it's going to start

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to begin the process in 28. Because remember, we're going

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to be completely digital from transportation to health care to money.

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We're not going to have the kind of privacy and

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the control over our own assets much longer. So really,

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it doesn't really take much of somebody who leans left,

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not far left, just left enough where, you know what,

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we're going to flip that switch. Now all that wealth

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belongs to the government. We'll give it to you in

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small incremental payments called grants. That's your universal basic income.

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And so when you start to think about that, it's like, oh,

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it all makes sense. We're building massive amounts of multifamily

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federal housing that Trump's ordered. Because he knows at some

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point AI and robotics are going to, at least on

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a lower level, replace about 25 to 50 million jobs.

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And that's within five years. Five years. Elon Musk went

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on the record and said they're going to produce a

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billion robots within 10 years. A billion robots. The vast

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majority will be in that G20, which is the largest

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industrial size of countries in the world. And all of

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a sudden, that's a billion people. Guess what? They're not working.

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What are you going to do with them? What are

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you going to do with these people? And that's the

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question people need to realize is that they're building a society.

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That's why Facebook is meta. Okay, Bill, listen to me carefully.

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Called the metaverse. You need three things in which to

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control people. Food, shelter, entertainment.

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Okay?

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So the Soviets did it very carefully. So we're doing it.

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We'll give you a universal basic income. Buy your food.

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We'll give you government housing. You got your shelter. We'll

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give you a metaverse. So you go anywhere in the world,

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but you'll never leave your living room. There's your entertainment.

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You can watch movies. You can watch shows. You can

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go and travel. You can hang out with your friends.

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You'll never live outside that government living room. Wow.

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It's amazing because fast forward, I mean, this is like

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the Roman Empire, you know, and gladiators and that sort

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of thing for entertainment, right? Now you just get to

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sit on your couch, pop some popcorn and, you know,

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be entertained, be amused, right?

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Right.

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Yeah, if you want to watch Gladiator 1, Part 2, whatever,

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I liked one better than two. Two's not bad, but

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one's better. And if you want to be actually in

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the movie, you'll be in the movie. You'll be able

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to pick up your sword. You'll be able to be there.

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And you'll never leave that government house that they provide

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you for. That's what they said. Remember, give the people entertainment.

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Distract them. In fact, you know that they lower the IQs.

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The more we watch programs, the more we entertain ourselves

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with sensual overload right your senses you're just you can

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feel it they are lowering the iq a recent study

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came out that showed since 1980 right to through uh

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end of last year the average the average human being

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in the world has lowered their iq by 23 at

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a minimum at a minimum When people think, well, that

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doesn't sound like a lot. It does because the average

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IQ was around 95. Now we're in the 70s. When

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you get to 60, you shouldn't be able to drive

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a car. We're talking some countries in the world and

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continents are in the low 60s, upper 50s. We're talking

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about people that can't even sustain a focus on a

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business or a focus on doing anything that's going to

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be super productive. And those are the people they're just

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going to put in the housing, their goggles on, and

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Apple's doing it. Look at Apple. They've got that 3D stuff.

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Meta's got it. And all of them are going to

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get there eventually because they know that's where the masses

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are going to be. So give them what they want.

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Well, and that's the dream of the politicians. I mean,

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they've been saying forever and ever, I mean, thank God,

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you guys are so lucky that we're here doing the job.

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We're doing your bidding because we're so much smarter than you.

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It's like a handful of politicians and so-called elites are

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much smarter than the cumulative intelligence of 350 million people.

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But if you drop that down to the lowest common

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denominator and you start losing IQ points along the way,

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then you're a lot more amenable.

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Yeah, you are. And that's the funny thing about it

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is that When you start to look at the pieces individually,

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you kind of like, okay, I kind of get it,

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kind of don't. But when you put the pieces together,

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how do we transform to a cashless society? We've got

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to go the genius act, the clarity act. You got

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to go digital first. Even if the digital system is

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a little bit more private and less control, it'll get

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there eventually though. It'll get to full control, but you

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got to switch at least to do that. It's the

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way of the horse and buggy. In order to get cars,

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fundamentally in everyday lives you got to get rid of

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the horse and buggy first and do cars now the

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cars are going to be what autonomous you can't even

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drive them if they don't want you to go there

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they'll turn that thing off vehicles.

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Well they can control tiger woods now in the autonomous.

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Car tiger is going to be the cab's number one

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customer here because he got his license suspended for five

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years is what i read But when you think about that,

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why was climate change so important? It was to move

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us to an electrical grid and electrical environment, electric cars

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on and off. Look at what you have with Nest.

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Nest is a thermostat company that Google overpaid for years

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ago because it had market penetration. that can be outside

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tappered with, right? So Google determines, oh, you're way too

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much use on your AC.

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Turn it off.

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Yes. And that's what's happening, Bill. If you look at

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all of the systems you can put into place, it

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lowers the IQ. It makes people more docile. And number three,

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it confiscates all of their wealth. Why do you think

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gold and silver and other commodities is not just about

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AI data centers build up? Precious metals are going up

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dramatically for many reasons, including governments do not trust the

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United States' dollar anymore, nor do they trust our debt.

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Right, exactly. And you got some socialists, you know, suggesting

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that we should give up the dollar as the petro resolve.

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And it's like, what, are you kidding me? I mean,

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what you just demonstrated that you talk about lowering your IQ,

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you're not at 30, you really brought it down to

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50 real quick.

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Oh, 100%.

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Here's kind of what I think is going to be

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the factor that really makes everything kind of come together.

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And that is, once you see the midterms lost, once

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we legitimately lose the midterms, and we're not talking about

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fraud or mail-in ballots, this will be legit. You look

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at that 18 to 36-year-old demographic, 96% now aligned with

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socialism and or communism ideology, 96%. That's up from 12%

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26 years ago. So now when you think about that

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and how that's going to resonate from local governments to

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state governments, all the way to that federal level. And

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on top of that, you've got 12 million Muslims out

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there that are voting 100% Democrat by 28 to 32.

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We don't have that many new Republicans coming in the

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party to vote and to maintain the growth of conservative

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values and voting consistency. So now by 28, if not

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for sure by 32, There's no federal government that's going

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to be so far left that you don't even need

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your right hand anymore. It'll be obsolete. Yeah.

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Speaking of AI data centers, all part and parcel of

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the formula, right?

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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The data centers was to hold data. It's to hold

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massive amounts of data. And so when you think about

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all the data that we have now, think about your phone.

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You've got music, movies, photos. Data that's been put on

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there is now in the cloud. You don't even own

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it anymore. You should have a SIM card. Remember, you

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could take your SIM card out. It was all on there.

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They got rid of that real fast because then you

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didn't need them. So now you pay monthly for the

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pleasure of having all this cloud storage space. So that

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data center is built for specifically the systems in which

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we're talking about in today's show. The money, the healthcare,

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the transportation, biometrics, all the things which is like digital IDs.

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What a scam, Chris, when you think about it, is

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that you're paying somebody to surrender your liberties.

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You're not surrendering. They're taking them.

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I know, but you're participating in it. It's not like

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they're necessarily coming in with a mask and a gun.

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I mean, we're willfully turning it over to them.

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All the people that put their pictures of their children

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and themselves and their lives on Facebook and Instagram... I

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once said, if there was ever any people out there

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that can prove that walking brain donors exist, talk about

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the men and women, the moms and dads and the

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grandparents that put their kids on Facebook for the whole world.

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Do you know that 50% of pedophilia is because pedophiles

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use Facebook posts to find their targets? Yeah, now what

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they're doing around the world, is they're taking images of

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your children and grandchildren and they're putting them in pornographic

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child movies. So why would anybody put their entire life up?

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If you don't want privacy, move to North Korea. Go

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to Cuba. No problem. You got it. There is no privacy.

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People bitch and complain here. Oh, I want privacy and

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I want security. You put your whole family on the internet.

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Are you crazy?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Got to leave it there for now. He's the CEO

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of Hard Asset Management, political economy strategist, congressional advisor, Christian Briggs.

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Thank you, Christian. Take care.

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My pleasure. Thank you, Bill. Have a great day.

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And welcome back. Bill Martinez here with Jenny Beth Martin

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from the Tea Party Patriots Action. Jenny Beth, good morning

525
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to you.

526
00:28:08.990 --> 00:28:09.390
Good morning.

527
00:28:09.450 --> 00:28:10.630
It's so good to be with you, Bill.

528
00:28:10.769 --> 00:28:13.099
Well, always good to have you here and talk about, well,

529
00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:16.599
the sprint is on for the midterms. We'll find out

530
00:28:17.019 --> 00:28:19.660
what kind of country. I almost sound like, you know,

531
00:28:19.700 --> 00:28:23.240
what was asked of Benjamin Franklin coming out of that conference, right? Well,

532
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.740
what kind of country did you give us? Well, a

533
00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:28.940
Democratic Republic, if you can keep it, right?

534
00:28:29.500 --> 00:28:30.039
That's right.

535
00:28:30.299 --> 00:28:32.339
And we will keep it one way or the other,

536
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.990
but it might be... We just have to remind people

537
00:28:35.049 --> 00:28:38.470
what's at stake and why it's so important to to

538
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.460
keep our Republican, not let it go to communism. I

539
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.019
can't believe we have to worry about communism, but we do.

540
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:45.000
That's where we are.

541
00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:47.900
Yeah, that's that's the reality of it. I think in

542
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.740
part what I've been saying, Jenny Beth, is that I

543
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.700
get that the kids have been indoctrinated and and this

544
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.640
movement is going on. And I'm saying don't throw the

545
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.579
baby out with the bathwater. You need to listen to

546
00:28:58.619 --> 00:29:02.339
what these kids are saying. Because the thing is, capitalism

547
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.779
has the answer for the ills that they think they're

548
00:29:05.819 --> 00:29:11.220
subjected to. What happened is that a corrupt and fraudulent

549
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.619
form of capitalism, still even better than socialism, has caused

550
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.700
a problem because... of the way waste and fraud has

551
00:29:18.779 --> 00:29:22.119
crept into our government and has compromised these issues of

552
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.900
inflation and affordability, has it not?

553
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.170
Well, yes, you're right about that. People are worried about affordability.

554
00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:32.210
They're worried about the ability to get a job to

555
00:29:32.250 --> 00:29:36.769
live the American dream. And those are real concerns and

556
00:29:36.809 --> 00:29:39.970
real fears that people have. They're getting out of college.

557
00:29:40.700 --> 00:29:44.819
with tens of thousands, if not over $ 100, 000 in debt.

558
00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:50.150
And these are real problems. $ 100, 000 in debt that's not

559
00:29:50.230 --> 00:29:53.250
on a house, that is an alarming amount of money,

560
00:29:53.309 --> 00:29:55.730
especially if you get out of college and you're making

561
00:29:55.750 --> 00:30:00.240
a starter salary, the kind of salary that you make

562
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.140
when you're first out of college because you don't have

563
00:30:02.180 --> 00:30:07.200
the experience yet. The problems that they're facing right now

564
00:30:07.869 --> 00:30:11.309
largely are twofold. One, because of the debt and the

565
00:30:11.369 --> 00:30:15.190
fraud that you just mentioned, which is lying, cheating, and

566
00:30:15.309 --> 00:30:18.869
stealing of tax dollars. That's all that it is. And

567
00:30:19.089 --> 00:30:21.809
it needs to stop. We need to quit spending so

568
00:30:21.849 --> 00:30:25.750
much money on things that would be lying, cheating, and stealing.

569
00:30:26.410 --> 00:30:29.750
But the other thing is, Bill, they think a little

570
00:30:29.769 --> 00:30:33.569
bit of socialism is a good thing. And part of

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00:30:33.609 --> 00:30:37.150
what's happened with capitalism in America is that it has

572
00:30:37.210 --> 00:30:41.000
been corrupted with socialism. And we need to show them

573
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that some of the problems are happening because the government

574
00:30:44.019 --> 00:30:47.359
got too involved. When the government got involved in student loans,

575
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.859
the cost of college went sky high and people started

576
00:30:50.940 --> 00:30:54.440
leaving college with tens of thousands of dollars in debt.

577
00:30:54.819 --> 00:30:58.720
that they never should have had in the first place.

578
00:30:58.740 --> 00:31:04.299
We have a lot of work to do to show

579
00:31:04.339 --> 00:31:06.950
them what caused the problems and how to solve it,

580
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.440
but they don't need to throw capitalism out. That's the

581
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:10.529
answer right there.

582
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:15.470
Right, because that's the engine that really made America into

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00:31:15.509 --> 00:31:18.630
a superpower, and it will be the engine that takes

584
00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:23.039
us into the next century God willing, because all you

585
00:31:23.059 --> 00:31:25.839
got to do is look at the mechanism of socialism.

586
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.039
Where have they ever been successful? Do they have anything

587
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.799
they could point to and say, hey, look at what

588
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:35.599
we've done here? There's not one example. Whereas with capitalism

589
00:31:35.900 --> 00:31:38.859
and what America has done, there are many examples. I mean,

590
00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:41.319
just look at here recently what happened in South America.

591
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.380
As soon as big government got out of South America

592
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.170
and took all those taxpayer funds out of South America,

593
00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:52.829
what did those socialist countries do? They went capitalist. They got,

594
00:31:52.950 --> 00:31:55.190
you know, and look what they're doing. They're starting to

595
00:31:55.970 --> 00:31:59.710
thrive again. Venezuela, they were eating out of trash trucks

596
00:31:59.779 --> 00:32:03.000
last year, Jenny Beth. And because of what Trump did

597
00:32:03.059 --> 00:32:05.519
for them and the future that he's cast for them

598
00:32:05.859 --> 00:32:09.750
by utilizing their natural resources— they're starting to thrive again.

599
00:32:09.789 --> 00:32:12.369
And of course, we know the success of Argentina. After

600
00:32:12.490 --> 00:32:16.319
seven decades of socialism, they were in the dumps. At

601
00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:19.259
one time, one of the most prosperous countries in South America.

602
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.940
They finally dumped now with their new president. Look what

603
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.960
they've been doing. They're thriving. So the opposite examples are

604
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:30.180
so empirical and undeniable. And it's not, I mean, it's

605
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.349
not even an argument. It's just, hey, look, let me

606
00:32:32.470 --> 00:32:34.809
show you. You show me yours. I'll show you my cards.

607
00:32:35.309 --> 00:32:38.309
and lay it out and then consider some critical thinking,

608
00:32:38.730 --> 00:32:41.009
especially in light of where this country is and the

609
00:32:41.089 --> 00:32:44.369
leadership it has right now. Donald Trump has done an

610
00:32:44.430 --> 00:32:49.380
incredible job to leverage the assets of the country, whether

611
00:32:49.420 --> 00:32:54.880
it's with tariffs, evening out the playing field, having this

612
00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:58.200
unfair advantage of foreign labor coming into our country and

613
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.970
taking the jobs of these young kids that are living

614
00:33:01.049 --> 00:33:03.509
out of their basements of their mom and dad's house,

615
00:33:03.569 --> 00:33:04.049
Jenny Beth.

616
00:33:04.700 --> 00:33:08.049
Yes, you're exactly right. And President Trump has done amazing

617
00:33:08.089 --> 00:33:10.890
things around the world and for America. And the things

618
00:33:10.950 --> 00:33:14.009
he's doing around the world will make America a stronger,

619
00:33:14.049 --> 00:33:18.380
more prosperous country. And he's making America safe as well.

620
00:33:19.420 --> 00:33:22.450
President Reagan said, Something along the lines of, I may

621
00:33:22.490 --> 00:33:24.930
have the quote a little bit off, but the American

622
00:33:24.970 --> 00:33:28.130
people will do the right thing if given all the facts.

623
00:33:28.509 --> 00:33:30.670
And what you're talking about doing is giving people the

624
00:33:30.769 --> 00:33:34.150
facts and making sure that they understand what is happening.

625
00:33:34.170 --> 00:33:36.140
And that's going to be our job over the next

626
00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:39.759
several weeks as we get closer and closer to Election Day,

627
00:33:40.059 --> 00:33:42.900
giving people the facts about where we stand, what we're

628
00:33:42.940 --> 00:33:46.359
trying to accomplish, and what caused many of the problems

629
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.220
that we're facing right now. And as you were going

630
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.779
through and talking about the problems with socialism and problems

631
00:33:52.819 --> 00:33:56.799
with communism, I want to highlight for your audience a website,

632
00:33:56.859 --> 00:33:59.460
and I haven't memorized everything in the website, though it

633
00:33:59.500 --> 00:34:01.720
would be a good exercise for me to do so.

634
00:34:02.259 --> 00:34:10.110
It is called contrastforamerica.com. Contrastforamerica.com. It's a website that Speaker

635
00:34:10.139 --> 00:34:13.489
Johnson and the House Republicans have put together highlighting the

636
00:34:13.670 --> 00:34:18.800
failures of communism around the world throughout history. And It

637
00:34:18.860 --> 00:34:21.239
is a good website for us to go and look to,

638
00:34:21.539 --> 00:34:25.519
to be reminded of where it has failed and why

639
00:34:25.539 --> 00:34:28.440
it won't work here in America. But we've got to

640
00:34:28.579 --> 00:34:32.260
arm ourselves with those facts and then help Americans understand

641
00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:33.079
what the facts are.

642
00:34:33.780 --> 00:34:36.659
Yeah, the young people, because this is a government of

643
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.460
four by four people, it speaks of self-responsibility. You have

644
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.530
the government that you deserve. OK, so think about that.

645
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.449
So that means that if you haven't done your due diligence,

646
00:34:47.750 --> 00:34:51.730
if you haven't exercised some critical thinking, taken responsibility for

647
00:34:51.769 --> 00:34:54.610
yourself and your family, you are going to get run

648
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.940
over by a bureaucracy that is interested in one thing,

649
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.219
power and control. They're not interested in you. That is

650
00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:05.190
the legacy of communism and socialism, is it not?

651
00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:08.769
Yeah, it is the legacy of communism and socialism. They're

652
00:35:08.809 --> 00:35:11.409
not interested in you. You know, one thing that young

653
00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:14.190
people do understand, so they may have been taught that

654
00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:18.570
socialism is good, but what they don't like is big government.

655
00:35:18.860 --> 00:35:20.940
They didn't like it when it came to the lockdowns.

656
00:35:20.980 --> 00:35:23.599
They didn't like it when it harmed them when they

657
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:26.639
were in high school and college. And they understand the

658
00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:30.300
consequences of big government. So we have to remind them

659
00:35:30.340 --> 00:35:36.480
that socialism is actually big government. And work to remind

660
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.010
them of that. You didn't like the lockdowns. You didn't

661
00:35:39.070 --> 00:35:41.409
like the government controlling that much of your life. You

662
00:35:41.449 --> 00:35:44.059
didn't like being told you had to sit six feet

663
00:35:44.179 --> 00:35:47.039
apart from somebody or somebody got sick next to you,

664
00:35:47.059 --> 00:35:48.880
they took a ruler out to find out if you

665
00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:51.860
were within six feet and whether you, a healthy person,

666
00:35:51.900 --> 00:35:54.440
had to quarantine for two weeks, you didn't like the mask,

667
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.380
whatever it is that you didn't like about all of

668
00:35:57.460 --> 00:36:03.340
that overzealous government control, that's what it would be like

669
00:36:03.420 --> 00:36:06.679
if you're voting for socialism, if you're voting for communism.

670
00:36:07.099 --> 00:36:09.969
It may not be lockdowns related to a virus, but

671
00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:13.329
the government will come in and exert power and lock

672
00:36:13.349 --> 00:36:16.769
you down in your own life for some reason and

673
00:36:16.829 --> 00:36:19.469
work to control your life very much the way they

674
00:36:19.489 --> 00:36:20.760
did during lockdowns.

675
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.039
Yeah, exactly. I mean, it is big government on steroids.

676
00:36:24.059 --> 00:36:27.480
I mean, here we are, you know, just celebrating Labor Day,

677
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.380
which is a good thing. You know, laboring is good.

678
00:36:30.949 --> 00:36:33.590
I think that's when people are happiest is when they're productive.

679
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.489
and working on a job. And look at what happened.

680
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.550
The latest job reports, it shattered all expectations, Jenny Beth. 162,000

681
00:36:42.550 --> 00:36:48.309
new jobs were created in August. Economists had expected only

682
00:36:48.349 --> 00:36:52.829
about 55,000 new jobs. The thing is that I think

683
00:36:52.909 --> 00:36:58.090
almost all those jobs were all private jobs. They were

684
00:36:58.110 --> 00:37:02.730
not public jobs, which means they weren't for government jobs,

685
00:37:02.769 --> 00:37:08.300
which is during the reign of Obama, every time we

686
00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:12.519
had an increase in jobs, it's because he added numbers

687
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:14.619
to government, right?

688
00:37:15.420 --> 00:37:15.599
Right.

689
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.800
So the jobs are private sector jobs. They're not government jobs.

690
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.579
And in fact, President Trump has been cutting government jobs,

691
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.480
which makes people upset who had those jobs. But it's

692
00:37:26.539 --> 00:37:29.780
good for America to have fewer government jobs and more

693
00:37:29.849 --> 00:37:34.429
private sector jobs. Oh, there was something you just said

694
00:37:34.469 --> 00:37:37.909
about how people can be the happiest when they're laboring.

695
00:37:38.250 --> 00:37:39.869
Some people are going to hear that and go, no,

696
00:37:39.969 --> 00:37:41.889
I hate my job. Or what is he talking about?

697
00:37:41.929 --> 00:37:44.789
How could he possibly think that? Bill, I think that

698
00:37:45.070 --> 00:37:49.780
there is dignity and work. There is dignity and it

699
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.820
isn't just work that the dignity is. There is dignity

700
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.900
in knowing that you did something that enabled you to

701
00:37:57.980 --> 00:38:01.909
provide for yourself. When you no longer can take care

702
00:38:01.949 --> 00:38:05.909
of yourself and you are dependent on other people, you

703
00:38:06.110 --> 00:38:09.699
feel a loss of dignity when that happens. You feel

704
00:38:09.780 --> 00:38:13.199
a loss of self-respect when that happens. But no matter

705
00:38:13.300 --> 00:38:15.340
what the job is, when you know that you are

706
00:38:15.389 --> 00:38:18.889
going and working and providing for yourself and providing for

707
00:38:18.929 --> 00:38:23.150
your family, you can wind up feeling much, my alarm

708
00:38:23.210 --> 00:38:28.250
keeps going off, you can feel much better about yourself

709
00:38:28.769 --> 00:38:31.190
because of that. And that's what you were trying to say,

710
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that you can be the happiest when you're laboring. It

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isn't so much necessarily that you enjoy the the physical exertion,

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but it is the fact that you are able to

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take care of yourself. You're able to provide for your family.

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You're able to save for your future. And there is

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real dignity in that.

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Exactly.

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Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here with Jeremy Beck from

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Numbers USA. Jeremy, how we doing?

795
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Doing all right, Bill.

796
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Had a great Labor Day weekend.

797
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I hope you did too.

798
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Yeah, I was going to say, you know, of course,

799
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we went into the weekend with some great numbers, employment

800
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jobs numbers three times more than expected. Also, on top

801
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of that, I understand that they ended up revising June

802
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and July's numbers as well. They raised them up. I mean,

803
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we don't get that very often. I mean, it was

804
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incredible during the Obama years and even Biden years. There

805
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was always an asterisk when the numbers came out because

806
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you knew they were going to be adjusted. And I

807
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don't know that they ever adjusted them up. They always

808
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went down, you know.

809
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Yeah, this was a terrific month.

810
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And, you know, I remember, you know, during the crash

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in the late 2000s, just watching these numbers month after month,

812
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just just plummet hundreds of thousands of jobs. down every month.

813
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It's a really, really encouraging report. It's a strong report.

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It shows it's really great news for Labor Day. It

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was a terrific report that came out on Friday. And,

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you know, there's going to be some people who will

817
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look at this and say, look, the economy is humming

818
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and we're going to have to, you know, we need

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large-scale immigration to keep it going because we need to fill,

820
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we're creating these jobs, we need to bring in people

821
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to fill them. But the labor report really doesn't reflect that.

822
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It shows that there's still so much room to grow.

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And so our message is we want to keep this

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progress moving, and we should be using immigration policy, managing

825
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immigration policy, so that we continue to provide new economic

826
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opportunities to American workers. And they are out there, the

827
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Bureau of Labor. Bureau of Labor statistic numbers show it.

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Go ahead, Bill.

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Jump in.

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No, I was just going to say, we need to

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incentivize the American labor force. I'm sure you were going

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to start to quote the numbers that we still have

833
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7 million Americans who are unemployed and they're looking for work,

834
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not to mention those that are underemployed, Jeremy.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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I mean, if you count the people who are looking

838
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for work and can't find it, or they're working part-time

839
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when they want to be working full-time, meaning they can't

840
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find the full-time job, or they want the job, but

841
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they've recently given up looking. You're talking about a population

842
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that's greater than the population of the state of Pennsylvania. Now,

843
00:45:26.659 --> 00:45:29.519
you can just kind of imagine that. That's more than

844
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17 million Americans. And so there's still lots of room

845
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out there for employers to reach out to American workers

846
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and American communities and fill these jobs. And a lot

847
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of times what we see with immigration, especially large-scale immigration,

848
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is that it allows employers policymakers, the media, and even

849
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the public to kind of ignore these Americans who are

850
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not quite in the labor force. We say, well, we

851
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don't see them because we've got all these people coming

852
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in to take the jobs, but we really should be

853
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because society pays for these Americans who can't work, who

854
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can't provide eyes of dignity for themselves.

855
00:46:07.869 --> 00:46:09.570
And speaking of dignity, I mean, this is the thing

856
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about Labor Day, and we always talk about this when

857
00:46:11.989 --> 00:46:15.099
we come to Labor Day, and that is the significance

858
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of labor. what that does for the individual. I mean,

859
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:23.280
survey says that a person who is working is happier

860
00:46:23.739 --> 00:46:26.619
because they have a chance at being fulfilled. And of course,

861
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the next step from fulfillment is realizing the American dream,

862
00:46:30.420 --> 00:46:33.860
which is freedom. Because when you have money in your

863
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.019
checkbook and you're able to provide for your family, it

864
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increases that freedom IQ quotient.

865
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You know what I mean?

866
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We want to live self-sufficient lives of dignity. And the

867
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.199
dignity part is important because it means that we did

868
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.320
this for ourselves. We are contributing to our community. We're

869
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.250
contributing to our country. We're contributing to the economy. And

870
00:46:57.489 --> 00:46:59.889
we are living self-sufficient lives because of it. And we

871
00:46:59.909 --> 00:47:03.489
can make our own decisions. We're not dependent on handouts

872
00:47:03.550 --> 00:47:07.250
from other people or from our neighbors. We're actually dependent

873
00:47:07.429 --> 00:47:11.059
on ourselves. But to do that, we need policies that

874
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.079
actually serve the public good and not just the bottom

875
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.760
line of a particular industry. And sometimes those things are

876
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.000
in conflict. Now, they don't have to be completely in conflict.

877
00:47:21.099 --> 00:47:26.159
You can increase productivity for workers and have a tremendously

878
00:47:26.219 --> 00:47:30.389
successful industry or company or business, whether it's a huge

879
00:47:30.889 --> 00:47:33.929
company or a very small business. You can find workers,

880
00:47:33.969 --> 00:47:36.710
invest in them and increase their productivity. That means in

881
00:47:36.769 --> 00:47:41.010
some cases, investing in mechanization and producing higher paying jobs.

882
00:47:41.469 --> 00:47:44.550
And so we can manage this in a way where

883
00:47:44.889 --> 00:47:48.599
the American people really win, the taxpayers win. And again,

884
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.659
we get some Americans back into the labor force. One

885
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:56.389
sobering statistic is that labor force participation dropped just a

886
00:47:56.409 --> 00:47:59.710
little bit, about a half point down from January. But

887
00:47:59.750 --> 00:48:04.070
we have roughly, of working age Americans, 60% of them

888
00:48:04.329 --> 00:48:07.469
aren't in the, sorry, 60% of them are working, but

889
00:48:07.809 --> 00:48:12.139
literally 40% of working age Americans aren't working. Now, some

890
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.260
of that is by choice. Some of that, you're raising

891
00:48:14.300 --> 00:48:18.090
a young family, you're in school, but you're talking about

892
00:48:18.230 --> 00:48:22.369
tens of millions of prime working age Americans, including men

893
00:48:22.829 --> 00:48:26.030
who are simply not working. And so this is a

894
00:48:26.070 --> 00:48:29.349
great labor report, but we should not take our foot

895
00:48:29.550 --> 00:48:33.130
off the gas pedal and Congress can help us by

896
00:48:33.210 --> 00:48:36.760
moderating immigration policy to create new opportunities for these Americans.

897
00:48:37.369 --> 00:48:42.280
Yeah, we've got to look with fresh eyes to incentivize

898
00:48:42.340 --> 00:48:45.099
these people who are on the sidelines for whatever reason,

899
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:50.510
especially if you are capable of working. But maybe you're

900
00:48:50.530 --> 00:48:52.869
depressed or something just hasn't gone your way or for

901
00:48:52.929 --> 00:48:56.570
whatever reason. And you're not participating. Well, you know, we've

902
00:48:56.590 --> 00:48:59.510
got to raise you up and get you in the

903
00:48:59.570 --> 00:49:02.409
arena to where you can have this sense of fulfillment

904
00:49:02.429 --> 00:49:05.860
and dignity that you referred to earlier. Because that's critical

905
00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:10.119
to our mental health, is it not? Yeah, absolutely.

906
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.239
I mean, the sense of being able to take care

907
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.570
of yourself, to provide for yourself, much less provide for

908
00:49:15.610 --> 00:49:16.170
a spouse.

909
00:49:16.429 --> 00:49:17.610
Provide for a family.

910
00:49:17.630 --> 00:49:24.940
This hits family first. marriage, child raising, all kinds, all

911
00:49:24.980 --> 00:49:28.019
facets of society. If you don't have a job, and

912
00:49:28.579 --> 00:49:31.400
I think you're right, the psychology aspect of this is

913
00:49:31.460 --> 00:49:35.139
really important. We want to have a happy society. We

914
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.269
want to have a happy and healthy, mentally healthy society.

915
00:49:38.730 --> 00:49:41.949
And we just know that work is really important for

916
00:49:41.989 --> 00:49:45.510
men and women, but probably even especially for men. And

917
00:49:46.050 --> 00:49:48.030
there's some good news on that front, too. For instance,

918
00:49:48.369 --> 00:49:55.050
non-college educated workers are seeing increases in economic opportunities right now.

919
00:49:55.150 --> 00:49:58.050
And that's a real boon to society. At the same time,

920
00:49:58.449 --> 00:50:02.380
college educated workers, new graduates especially, are entering a very,

921
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.579
very difficult labor market. We've got AI coming in. But

922
00:50:05.619 --> 00:50:08.619
we also have a lot of massive guest worker programs

923
00:50:08.940 --> 00:50:12.769
that essentially give employers discounts for not hiring American workers.

924
00:50:13.289 --> 00:50:20.309
And this affects not just elite, wealthy, highly educated Americans,

925
00:50:20.349 --> 00:50:23.849
but also working class or middle class Americans whose families

926
00:50:23.869 --> 00:50:25.690
have gone into debt so that they can go get

927
00:50:25.730 --> 00:50:29.699
an education and enter a field of their interest and

928
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:33.280
their study. And we should be helping them find employment

929
00:50:33.380 --> 00:50:35.889
and investing in our and our own American workers.

930
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:40.260
They should be the priority, our American citizens. But what's

931
00:50:40.300 --> 00:50:45.139
happened is that we bring in all these foreign employees

932
00:50:45.340 --> 00:50:49.099
under some sort of ruse, and then we incentivize more

933
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.739
of the same at the expense of the American worker.

934
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:57.380
What is wrong with this picture? Well, it's wrong.

935
00:50:57.420 --> 00:50:58.880
And the good news is, I think more and more

936
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:00.719
people are talking about it. We talk about it here

937
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.920
almost every week. Immigration is a labor policy. It's a

938
00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:09.340
wage policy. It's an economic security policy. The GOP convention

939
00:51:09.380 --> 00:51:11.099
is this week, and I'm sure they're going to talk

940
00:51:11.139 --> 00:51:13.960
about the great gains that we've made at the.

941
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.099
Border, border security.

942
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.099
And I'm sure they're going to talk about the importance

943
00:51:17.139 --> 00:51:20.360
of interior enforcement as a public safety issue. And all

944
00:51:20.380 --> 00:51:22.590
of those things are true, but I really hope they

945
00:51:22.610 --> 00:51:26.210
don't miss the opportunity to talk about immigration policy and

946
00:51:26.250 --> 00:51:30.650
immigration enforcement as an economic security issue, because we're talking

947
00:51:30.710 --> 00:51:35.860
about creating economic security for American workers. That includes U.S.-born

948
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.420
citizen and naturalized citizens and legal permanent immigrant residents.

949
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.429
Yeah, this is an opportunity for the Republican Party to

950
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counter narrative what the mainstream media has been putting out

951
00:51:45.769 --> 00:51:47.889
there and leading people to believe. This is why some

952
00:51:47.909 --> 00:51:50.530
of this polling is so bogus, in my opinion. I mean,

953
00:51:50.570 --> 00:51:52.320
the people do not have the facts. They don't have

954
00:51:52.380 --> 00:51:56.409
all the information. which is amazing to me because I'm

955
00:51:56.889 --> 00:52:00.730
suggesting and encouraging the people to use your critical thinking.

956
00:52:01.090 --> 00:52:03.820
I mean, look at where the country is right now

957
00:52:04.139 --> 00:52:06.760
with the leadership that we have right now. There has

958
00:52:06.820 --> 00:52:09.659
not been a modern day leader that I'm aware of

959
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:13.130
that has leveraged the assets of America in such a

960
00:52:13.250 --> 00:52:16.550
way to level out the playing field to where trade

961
00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:21.420
is coming down and where even drug pricing right now,

962
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.219
the Trump accounts, at every turn, tariff. I think the

963
00:52:26.260 --> 00:52:29.880
tariff opportunity, once we get some of these activist judges

964
00:52:29.940 --> 00:52:33.010
out of the way, we could really do something about

965
00:52:33.469 --> 00:52:36.389
the $ 40 trillion in debt that we're in, not to

966
00:52:36.429 --> 00:52:40.869
mention doing something about Social Security to really make it

967
00:52:41.010 --> 00:52:43.130
into something that's vibrant. I got to tell you one

968
00:52:43.150 --> 00:52:45.650
thing that really yanks my chain here, and this is

969
00:52:45.710 --> 00:52:48.269
just me, and that is that every time I watch

970
00:52:48.309 --> 00:52:51.630
an AARP commercial talking about how they're going to save

971
00:52:51.670 --> 00:52:54.110
Social Security, and I'm saying, yeah, but you guys are

972
00:52:54.130 --> 00:52:57.179
the ones that are putting 85% of your money to

973
00:52:57.260 --> 00:52:59.880
Democrats that are doing everything they can to take money

974
00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:02.380
out of Social Security and put it in jeopardy. So

975
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.820
don't tell me that you're looking to protect Social Security

976
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when you are investing in the wrong group. Just a sidebar, sorry.

977
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No, that's fine. And I think it's a question of priorities.

978
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And as you note, these, and trade is not my

979
00:53:19.019 --> 00:53:21.900
area of expertise, but all of these things that you mentioned,

980
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the idea behind them is to promote investment in domestic workers,

981
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.619
in Americans' families and their paychecks and what we take home,

982
00:53:32.070 --> 00:53:35.289
and our ability to contribute to our own society. That's

983
00:53:35.329 --> 00:53:37.630
what we're talking about here. We want to be able

984
00:53:37.670 --> 00:53:41.199
to contribute to our own national economy. And we want

985
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as much buy-in, as much participation as possible. That's why

986
00:53:44.900 --> 00:53:47.880
the labor force participation rate is a really important metric.

987
00:53:48.739 --> 00:53:53.309
What percentage of Americans are participating in the economic activity

988
00:53:53.409 --> 00:53:55.710
of America? And when it comes to the labor force,

989
00:53:56.170 --> 00:54:00.000
it's a very high percentage who are not. And that's

990
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due to a whole bunch of factors.

991
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Immigration is just one of them.

992
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But we should manage all of these policies, including immigration,

993
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with the idea of getting more domestic buy-in, not less.

994
00:54:10.739 --> 00:54:13.050
And it's not a one-to-one. Again, it's not the only

995
00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:15.769
cause of this. But you can manage it in such

996
00:54:15.809 --> 00:54:18.010
a way so that you incentivize. I think we've lost

997
00:54:18.090 --> 00:54:20.630
a lot of the muscle memory of saying like, hey,

998
00:54:20.650 --> 00:54:22.409
let's go out and let's train people.

999
00:54:22.829 --> 00:54:23.670
Let's recruit them.

1000
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The idea of recruiting, we've basically turned this over into

1001
00:54:27.670 --> 00:54:30.250
an online portal where you can say like, hey, there's

1002
00:54:30.289 --> 00:54:32.929
a global workforce out here who would love any job

1003
00:54:32.969 --> 00:54:36.210
at any wage under any condition, and I can sign

1004
00:54:36.269 --> 00:54:39.199
up for it basically online, and the government will help

1005
00:54:39.260 --> 00:54:42.260
me find that person. Well, that's a great deal if

1006
00:54:42.300 --> 00:54:44.760
you're an employer, if you're hiring and filling these jobs,

1007
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.219
but it's not a great deal for the country. We

1008
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can do the same kind of innovation, but with domestic recruitment.

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And as these numbers show, there is no shortage of

1010
00:54:53.489 --> 00:54:57.469
available working-age Americans that we can pull from to pull

1011
00:54:57.610 --> 00:55:02.949
our country back together into one economic, middle-class, thriving country again.

1012
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Well said.

1013
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He's the co-president of Numbers USA. Jeremy Beck, right here

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on Bill Martinez Live. Thank you, Jeremy. Take care.

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Getting America back on track.

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Bill Martinez live.

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Hey, right now, six minutes after the top of the hour,

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I am Bill Martinez. He is Scott Powell from the

1039
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Discovery Institute.

1040
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Hey, Mr.

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Scott, how are we doing?

1042
00:56:31.619 --> 00:56:32.280
Really well, Bill.

1043
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Thank you.

1044
00:56:33.139 --> 00:56:35.800
Well, thanks for coming on. I want to talk about

1045
00:56:35.820 --> 00:56:40.659
your forthcoming book, 1776, Rising America's Second War of Independence.

1046
00:56:41.449 --> 00:56:44.590
I believe it's so important because, and appropriately titled, by

1047
00:56:44.630 --> 00:56:48.159
the way, it was genius. I know this was, you know,

1048
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:52.059
something inspired you. If it wasn't current events, God himself perhaps,

1049
00:56:53.139 --> 00:56:55.480
you know, to say, look, we need to get back to,

1050
00:56:55.500 --> 00:57:00.409
you know, founding principles. I've often said that in operations,

1051
00:57:00.429 --> 00:57:03.809
you know, a good leader, when they come to an

1052
00:57:03.869 --> 00:57:06.949
organization and see that it's lost its way, will say, hey, look,

1053
00:57:06.989 --> 00:57:10.440
let's retrace our steps. Let's find out where did the

1054
00:57:10.579 --> 00:57:15.949
organization make a hard left and depart from its founding principles.

1055
00:57:16.429 --> 00:57:19.449
And I believe that's where America is right now. And

1056
00:57:19.469 --> 00:57:23.389
it requires that leadership. And I believe your book is

1057
00:57:23.409 --> 00:57:27.239
going to be contributory to this direction or this redirect

1058
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:31.510
is that we need to. go back and see where

1059
00:57:31.570 --> 00:57:34.659
did we make the wrong turn and where we deviated?

1060
00:57:34.699 --> 00:57:37.500
Because when you find that and you run the timeline,

1061
00:57:37.539 --> 00:57:42.300
you start seeing the degradation of the fruit and the

1062
00:57:42.380 --> 00:57:46.820
value of our founding principles that caused America to rise

1063
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:51.280
to superpower status in such a short period of time, Scott. Well,

1064
00:57:51.300 --> 00:57:52.239
you're absolutely right, Bill.

1065
00:57:53.699 --> 00:57:58.880
Unfortunately, a lot of the the process of leading to

1066
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:04.559
where we are took many, it's really decades that this

1067
00:58:04.619 --> 00:58:08.739
has been taking place. It's been called the long march

1068
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:12.400
through the institutions. And this comes out of the cultural

1069
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:17.659
Marxist school that believe that the way we take down

1070
00:58:18.579 --> 00:58:23.440
the capitalist system, and of course, they really have been

1071
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:26.300
focused on America from the very beginning, if you will,

1072
00:58:26.710 --> 00:58:32.059
of this whole cultural Marxism, was to work internally, to

1073
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:39.320
work within the institutions and take down America from within.

1074
00:58:39.340 --> 00:58:45.710
It's a subliminal and long process. It doesn't happen overnight.

1075
00:58:45.989 --> 00:58:49.989
So for instance, how has our public school system been

1076
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:52.280
lost if you will well which.

1077
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.820
Was one of the first institutions they targeted.

1078
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.679
Scott right yeah you can go back to john dewey

1079
00:58:56.699 --> 00:59:00.219
in the 1920s and 30s right you know who who

1080
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:03.210
you know who's hostile to god he he wanted god

1081
00:59:03.309 --> 00:59:09.570
removed you know from you know from public school curriculum

1082
00:59:09.659 --> 00:59:14.659
and discussion and so forth. And of course, America was

1083
00:59:14.980 --> 00:59:20.559
a Christian nation from the beginning, not structured as a

1084
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:26.239
theocratic state, but really empowered by the fundamentals of the

1085
00:59:26.300 --> 00:59:33.550
Christian faith and tradition, which is that people have unalienable rights.

1086
00:59:34.809 --> 00:59:37.050
The first of which is really freedom, that they are

1087
00:59:37.110 --> 00:59:42.170
free to speak, to think, to congregate, even to protest government.

1088
00:59:42.469 --> 00:59:47.289
The American people have these guaranteed freedoms that really come

1089
00:59:47.329 --> 00:59:49.050
from God, not the state.

1090
00:59:50.010 --> 00:59:50.750
Right, exactly.

1091
00:59:50.849 --> 00:59:52.969
And it's the state's job to, you know, to protect them.

1092
00:59:53.610 --> 00:59:56.170
Well, Scott, I want to go back and focus on education.

1093
00:59:56.699 --> 00:59:59.659
Our founding fathers realized, yes, we weren't going to be

1094
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:01.820
a theocratic society. We were going to have the freedom

1095
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.719
to choose the religion that you wanted. But yet the

1096
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:06.960
understanding is, is that you were going to hold to some,

1097
01:00:07.300 --> 01:00:11.090
you know, some core principles that came from the Bible.

1098
01:00:11.730 --> 01:00:16.010
And the basic core principle is that without God, you

1099
01:00:16.110 --> 01:00:18.929
render yourself stupid is what the Bible basically says in

1100
01:00:18.989 --> 01:00:20.010
short order.

1101
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:20.489
Okay.

1102
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.920
And so you had to stay connected to God. I mean,

1103
01:00:23.940 --> 01:00:26.449
here you are, you're talking education. We're talking about, you know,

1104
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:30.309
raising smart people, you know, intelligent people. Well, how do

1105
01:00:30.349 --> 01:00:33.789
you have intelligent people? If you, you know, make the

1106
01:00:33.829 --> 01:00:35.909
wrong choice and say, okay, I want to do it

1107
01:00:36.010 --> 01:00:38.940
on my own. I want to ignore the creator of

1108
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:43.360
the universe. who knows all things, right? So let's not

1109
01:00:43.420 --> 01:00:46.400
get his input on this because we got some elites

1110
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:50.000
over here that have gone to said specific university that's

1111
01:00:50.019 --> 01:00:54.420
so special and they know better than God Almighty himself.

1112
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:56.840
And this is basically, I mean, they didn't tell you

1113
01:00:56.889 --> 01:01:00.809
that up front, but that's basically, it started the slow

1114
01:01:00.869 --> 01:01:05.250
creep because in and of ourselves, in our fallen humanity,

1115
01:01:05.889 --> 01:01:11.230
we will default into selfish ideology. And so we can

1116
01:01:11.269 --> 01:01:13.829
do as the Bible says in the book of judges,

1117
01:01:14.329 --> 01:01:17.469
as we darn well, please, until we realize the hard

1118
01:01:17.530 --> 01:01:20.809
way and the hard lesson that doing as you darn well,

1119
01:01:20.829 --> 01:01:23.469
please is not in your best interest, but God in

1120
01:01:23.510 --> 01:01:25.829
his love and mercy says, Hey, Scott, if that's what

1121
01:01:25.849 --> 01:01:29.150
you want to do, have at it. That's true.

1122
01:01:29.190 --> 01:01:32.630
We, you, you, you, uh, free will, free choice is,

1123
01:01:32.889 --> 01:01:36.760
is part of, uh, the endowment of our Lord is

1124
01:01:36.820 --> 01:01:40.440
that we have to make, um, we are free to choose.

1125
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:44.719
And so we're given all, you know, we're given all

1126
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:49.389
of the, um, the criteria to make right choices, but

1127
01:01:49.469 --> 01:01:52.750
still our fallen nature man is basically rebellious and he

1128
01:01:52.829 --> 01:01:56.389
rebels against God's order that, that just goes back to the,

1129
01:01:57.090 --> 01:01:57.949
to the garden of Eden.

1130
01:01:58.610 --> 01:01:58.829
Right.

1131
01:01:58.949 --> 01:01:59.369
Exactly.

1132
01:01:59.789 --> 01:02:00.130
Exactly.

1133
01:02:00.190 --> 01:02:03.820
So, so here it is. You have, education. And I

1134
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:07.039
don't know, I was reading here a summary, you know,

1135
01:02:07.059 --> 01:02:10.659
the teachers unions met over the summer, right? And the

1136
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:13.059
things they came out with, Scott, you think that they would,

1137
01:02:13.539 --> 01:02:17.989
after what we understood about COVID and really pulling back

1138
01:02:18.050 --> 01:02:20.780
the shroud of education and seeing the kind of stuff

1139
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:23.309
that was happening and going, yeah, this is really a

1140
01:02:23.349 --> 01:02:25.650
hot mess. I mean, what they're teaching our kids and

1141
01:02:25.670 --> 01:02:28.570
they're not even teaching, they're indoctrinating our kids. This has

1142
01:02:28.590 --> 01:02:31.030
to stop. And, you know, an uproar was there and,

1143
01:02:31.050 --> 01:02:35.489
you know, people were leaving public schools and going into

1144
01:02:35.909 --> 01:02:42.599
homeschooling and other alternatives because of the corruption that was understood,

1145
01:02:43.099 --> 01:02:48.159
that was imposed upon in our education system. You think

1146
01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:49.920
that they would have gotten together and said, hey, we

1147
01:02:49.940 --> 01:02:52.699
got to stop this. We got to focus on reading, writing,

1148
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:56.460
and arithmetic. Let the political stuff go aside. Let's just

1149
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:58.039
educate the kids. You think they would?

1150
01:02:58.239 --> 01:02:58.400
No.

1151
01:02:58.900 --> 01:03:04.199
They've actually doubled down on it. And at the public's expense.

1152
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:05.559
Yes.

1153
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:06.000
Yeah.

1154
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.519
These are taxpayer. This is, you know, taxpayer funded. I mean,

1155
01:03:10.059 --> 01:03:14.400
the Department of Education was founded in 1979. And at

1156
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:19.960
that time, you know, American education ranked in the top,

1157
01:03:20.900 --> 01:03:24.010
probably the top eight of the industrialized country. Maybe we were,

1158
01:03:24.650 --> 01:03:27.750
you know, between five and eight ranking. We weren't one,

1159
01:03:27.829 --> 01:03:31.880
but we were in the upper echelon. today we're at

1160
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:35.519
the very bottom yeah so you know the state of

1161
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:40.679
public education is measurably so much worse today than it

1162
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:44.980
was before this department of education was founded right it's

1163
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:50.929
very costly bureaucracy right exactly billions of dollars to you

1164
01:03:50.949 --> 01:03:54.670
know to you know to with an outcome that your

1165
01:03:54.730 --> 01:03:58.110
schools are failing no you close the bureaucracy down you

1166
01:03:58.150 --> 01:04:00.920
turn it back to the To the communities, to the

1167
01:04:01.019 --> 01:04:04.920
states and the communities where it used to reside. Remember,

1168
01:04:04.980 --> 01:04:13.369
we didn't have a Department of Education until 1979. That's only, what,

1169
01:04:13.369 --> 01:04:18.489
47 years ago. Before that time, our education was working

1170
01:04:18.530 --> 01:04:20.050
very well. Right.

1171
01:04:20.630 --> 01:04:23.369
Yeah. So again, you go back and you say, when

1172
01:04:23.389 --> 01:04:26.170
did we make the wrong turn? Let's reverse that turn.

1173
01:04:26.590 --> 01:04:29.650
Let's get back on track, right? And because of the

1174
01:04:29.690 --> 01:04:34.750
political pressure, it's not something you do overnight. But it

1175
01:04:34.849 --> 01:04:39.170
really commands that we, the people, again, take the keys

1176
01:04:39.269 --> 01:04:41.210
away from the irresponsible teenagers.

1177
01:04:42.449 --> 01:04:46.130
Oh, I fully agree. I mean, I do think that,

1178
01:04:47.309 --> 01:04:53.550
I think it's Linda McMahon, who's the Secretary of Education.

1179
01:04:54.090 --> 01:04:58.019
She took that job knowing full well that If she succeeded,

1180
01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:59.590
she'd put herself out of work.

1181
01:05:00.110 --> 01:05:00.320
Right.

1182
01:05:00.809 --> 01:05:03.389
Well, and that's what her goal was. In fact, she

1183
01:05:03.429 --> 01:05:06.590
said up front, Scott Powell, that, hey, you know, I

1184
01:05:06.650 --> 01:05:10.010
want to put myself out of a job.

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And it's all coming to a head right now, Scott,

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with the, the rise of the DSA, you know, and

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I tell people, I go, don't feel threatened by that.

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I think you need to embrace it. And, you know,

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like anything is that, see what can be drawn out

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of it. Because, you know, this is what defines preference.

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When you have alternatives, you have a capitalist system, you

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have a socialist system. Now, hopefully you've intellectualized it enough

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to understand what capitalism delivers versus what socialism delivers, There's

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enough information out there, especially now in the age of

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social media and what's available on the internet. You can

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Google it. And in short order, you can get a

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pretty good working knowledge of the pluses and minuses of

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each option, can't you?

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Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And it's really common sense, although people

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that don't have any sort of.

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Background in thinking in a simple way about why the

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free market system works so well and why socialism fails,

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the brief explanation is that the free market system is based,

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first of all, on voluntary exchange. And people will only

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exchange their money for the good.

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For value. Yeah, what's the value, right?

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Yeah, when there's a value proposition that makes sense to them,

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that they think they're getting a good deal. The seller,

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on the other hand, feels the same way. I'm getting

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a reasonable return for all the energy that went into

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producing this product. So it's a process of constant self-correction,

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Because sometimes decisions aren't good, the product doesn't work, so

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that product is removed. But pricing is the key to

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it all. In the pricing system, people don't realize how

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powerful pricing is in a free society. Prices are a

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carrier of information. And that is what enables people to

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make decisions. When they think they're getting a fair price, they,

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they can say, yes, I'm in, I'm going to buy that.

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Right.

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When prices are set by government, which is what socialism does.

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Remember socialism does not work with a pricing system. So

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who it's, who sets the prices on things?

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The government.

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Are you kidding me?

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Yeah.

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Mayor Mamdani in New York.

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I mean, it's, it's just, it's, It's an utter failure

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right from the gate. I mean, it's just not going

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to work.

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To your point, you look at the trail of both ideas,

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and you see what capitalism and the free markets have generated, jobs, productivity,

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a happier constituency, because people are most fulfilled and happy

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when they're being productive you can be productive when you

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are your own person and being the best definition of

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yourself whereas with socialism it is the government that sets

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standards that limits you that puts a governor over you

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and i say a governor in terms like a regulating

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mechanism that says scott powell you can only operate at

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this level I know you have so much more to offer,

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or I don't care about that you have so much

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more to offer. No, because it's going to make everybody

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else envious. So we're going to dumb you down so

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that you are in line with the lowest common denominator,

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so to speak. Boy, that gets me excited, doesn't.

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It, you?

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Well, it's well said, Bill.

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You know, socialism is the road to a low common denominator.

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Very simple.

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It really is.

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It lowers everything. It lowers quality.

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It lowers standards. It brings inefficiency into the, you know,

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into the economy.

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Right.

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And there's proof to that end, Scott, right? I mean,

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you look over history and you don't even have to

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go that far back. I mean, you can just see

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like what happened immediately. It was interesting. I thought, and

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of course the mainstream media, they're so disingenuous, have failed

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to really report on what happened when Donald Trump came

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in and took the NGO money out of South America, right?

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Right.

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Yes.

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How quick did the South Americans say, whoa, we're out

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of here. And they became capitalists. I mean, in a

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01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:50.659
matter of months, Scott, and now look at, look at

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01:14:50.699 --> 01:14:54.220
the GDP of those, you know, those countries now and

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how they're flourishing. I mean, we're not even talking about

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Argentina because Argentina went through their transition a while ago with, uh,

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melee and, uh, you know, for 70 years, they were

1337
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being crushed by these socialistic ideas that, you know, to

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the disdain of people who are from Argentina here in

1339
01:15:12.210 --> 01:15:15.810
America going, are you guys crazy? What are you doing?

1340
01:15:16.149 --> 01:15:19.250
We did that for 70 years. This is nuts. You know,

1341
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you need to run away from that craziness, right?

1342
01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:22.579
Absolutely.

1343
01:15:22.619 --> 01:15:27.600
Well, what happens too is that when you don't have competition,

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01:15:28.180 --> 01:15:34.399
then you don't have any check on corruption. And unfortunately,

1345
01:15:35.189 --> 01:15:39.340
corruption is... lurks in in the soul of many people

1346
01:15:39.500 --> 01:15:42.979
if they can exploit someone else if they can gouge

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people on prices uh if they can introduce a product

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01:15:47.060 --> 01:15:50.180
that has a limited life but looks pretty good and

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01:15:50.220 --> 01:15:52.880
they can sell it because it it looks good but

1350
01:15:52.979 --> 01:15:56.659
actually it has no real you know shelf life right

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01:15:56.699 --> 01:16:00.109
as it fails fairly quickly all those sorts of things

1352
01:16:00.189 --> 01:16:07.069
that uh you know um happen in a what we

1353
01:16:07.109 --> 01:16:13.989
would say an inappropriately structured economy, that is what socialism is.

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That's what it does.

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And Scott, people need to open their eyes to see that.

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And I'm going to put the spotlight on Democrats because

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the Democrats have become very efficient in suddenly doing this.

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They have done it through the use of their elective

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power to to bring factions into play and protect whether

1360
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it's unions, special interest groups, this cabal that has corrupt

1361
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the system for what? For power and control so that

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they would get reelected. See, this is all mucking up

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the machinery. You see, and the young kids right now

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01:16:47.100 --> 01:16:50.869
that are revolting, I'm saying, hey, look it, you've got,

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you know, you're seeing things right. It's not that you're wrong.

1366
01:16:54.449 --> 01:16:56.329
You're seeing things right. You're just coming to the wrong

1367
01:16:56.369 --> 01:17:01.079
conclusion here. Because it goes deeper than just seeing this as, oh,

1368
01:17:01.140 --> 01:17:05.800
it's the problem of the billionaires. No, it's a deeper problem.

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It's a root problem that a party, a political party,

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doesn't want you to look into. Because if you did,

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then your eyes would be truly opened up. And then

1372
01:17:15.329 --> 01:17:18.649
what would happen is with this new knowledge and this

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enthusiasm that you have to say, hey, yes, this is fixable.

1374
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We can do it. You will now put your energy

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behind fixing the problem and being a part of the

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solution and not adding to the problem. Does that make sense?

1377
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It does make sense. And you asked a good question

1378
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in the beginning is how.

1379
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Why does Lyda McMahon take over the Department of Education

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with a mission to shut it down, to sort of

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redirect our public education system and how it's been very

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difficult for her. It's not happened so far to the

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extent that really it needs to. And that's because of

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the nature of bureaucracy. When bureaucracy gets established and it

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gets it becomes the employment place of people who don't

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buy into the system of competition and free market, but

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rather have a socialist disposition to everything, including education. They

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become like sand in the gears. They will slow the

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whole reform process to a halt. And that is the

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big challenge for all of our agencies. You know, the

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The agencies that really run our government are in, you know,

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they are made up of people who, you know, who've

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been appointed, who are unelected, unelected right and yet they

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have the power of the legislature in many ways they

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create the rules of of uh the the agency and

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and the domain that the agency is is responsible for

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like the department of interior uh that has a you

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know an environmentalist orientation uh of course will slow down

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you know, the development of, you know, of the resources

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that are part of God's blessing to us that he

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intended us to use. And so it is that, you know,

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you have most all of our agencies are really the

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problem now, and it's not an easy problem to solve.

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I think, you know, I would suggest that one of

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the best books on the subject is a very short

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book by Ned Ryan.

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Yes, yes.

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Who really analyzes the problem of our agencies, that we

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really need to return to our Constitution. There were no

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agencies at the founding of the Constitution.

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Well, our founding fathers wanted us to avoid that, clearly,

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you know. Yes, yeah. I'll tell you, we got to

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leave it there for now. He's the author, member of

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the committee on this present danger, China, senior fellow at

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the Discovery Institute, Scott Powell. Thank you, Scott. Take care. Great, Bill.

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Hey, good morning. Glad you could join us. Welcome back.

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Bill Martinez here. We've got Laura Montferrat is going to

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be joining us in just a few minutes to talk

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about some tips and saving, you know, with back to

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school expenses. We know when it's time to get back

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to school, you know, sometimes we get, you know, rushed

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and we make some mistakes. And next thing you know,

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we're spending probably more money than our budget called for.

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with the new school year because, you know, that's what happens.

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You know, I want to make sure, you know, our

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kids are well equipped to getting back to school and

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back to school season doesn't necessarily mean that we break

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the budget. And this is why Laura is here to

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help us understand what we can do. She's a consumer

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credit card executive at Bank of America. Laura, welcome to

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the show. Good to have you with us.

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Hi, thank you for having me.

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Talking about saving on school supplies and back-to-school shopping. I mean, parents, grandparents,

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we've all been there, done that. We've made some mistakes

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and gone, oh, why did we do this, right? We

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should have attacked this challenge a little bit smarter, right?

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Yeah, there's a few tips I can share on how

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to think about it. And one is just start by

1495
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auditing your inventory at home. Do you have leftover notebooks, pens,

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pencils from the previous school year? And then from there,

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create a list of necessities so that when you go

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to the store, you're not tempted to make a lot

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of impulse purchases. The other thing I'd say is when

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you're at the store, think about what credit card you're using.

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Make sure you're getting rewards for where you're spending. So

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as an example, the Bank of America Customized Cash Rewards

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your choice. One of those categories is online shopping. So

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that is a great option for back to school. Right now, actually,

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new cardholders earn 6% back in that category of choice

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for the first year. think about. Do you want cash back?

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Do you want points? You can use those throughout the

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year to offset your expenses. And the other thing I'd

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say is layer on those discounts. Look for digital coupons,

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store loyalty coupons, ask for student discounts. There's a lot

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that's out there on technology, apparel. You can also look

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at secondhand or refurbished options. Not everything has to be

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brand new to be great quality. And there's a lot

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of verified refurbishment programs out there that offer course materials,

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technology at a fraction of retail prices.

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Yeah, these are great tips, Laura. I'm glad you brought

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that out. I mean, even starting with checking your own

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inventory at home, what was left over from last year's

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school season, or maybe the older child that you could

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01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:04.689
reuse some of these products so you're not having to

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01:26:05.350 --> 01:26:07.750
go ahead and just purchase something brand new because it's

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01:26:07.789 --> 01:26:11.550
brand new. And the other thing is looking for those

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01:26:11.970 --> 01:26:17.899
extra discounts and seeing how they're competing because They're competing

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aggressively for your back-to-school business, are they not?

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01:26:22.699 --> 01:26:23.239
They are.

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And there are also verification sites like Unidays or Student

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Beans that can also help you unlock extra savings. So

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keep an eye out for those opportunities.

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Well, and this is also a good opportunity to teach

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01:26:33.829 --> 01:26:36.930
our kids healthy budgeting practices early on, right?

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01:26:39.430 --> 01:26:39.710
It is.

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I think the earlier you start, the better. And just

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helping kids understand the difference between what's a need and

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01:26:44.550 --> 01:26:47.149
a want. and having those conversations when they want to

1536
01:26:47.189 --> 01:26:49.590
buy something and just even giving them control over their

1537
01:26:49.609 --> 01:26:53.130
own spending money starts to help lay that foundation. Turn

1538
01:26:53.170 --> 01:26:55.189
an everyday routine into what we're going to call a

1539
01:26:55.270 --> 01:26:58.189
financial micro lesson. Take them to the grocery store, make

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01:26:58.229 --> 01:27:00.390
it a learning moment. You give them a budget, tell

1541
01:27:00.409 --> 01:27:02.569
them to pick out the family snacks. Now they have

1542
01:27:02.590 --> 01:27:05.329
to make decisions on, should I board this store brand

1543
01:27:05.409 --> 01:27:07.569
or should I buy the name brand? And you can

1544
01:27:07.609 --> 01:27:10.909
really use those moments to teach them that credit, debit,

1545
01:27:11.189 --> 01:27:13.760
online purchases, guess what? They are all tied to hard

1546
01:27:13.850 --> 01:27:16.170
earned money. And how to start to think about that

1547
01:27:16.210 --> 01:27:17.869
becomes really important at an early age.

1548
01:27:18.930 --> 01:27:20.869
Yeah, exactly. And then they get to contend with the

1549
01:27:20.930 --> 01:27:23.890
sibling that wants something else that's different than what they've

1550
01:27:23.909 --> 01:27:25.050
put in the basket, right?

1551
01:27:26.930 --> 01:27:27.470
Exactly.

1552
01:27:28.609 --> 01:27:30.590
Just, you know, not that we want to raise the

1553
01:27:30.630 --> 01:27:32.689
level of contention as if you don't have enough already

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01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:35.000
in the household. We're just, you know, just saying, hey, look,

1555
01:27:35.020 --> 01:27:38.460
there's some fun things that parents can have here while

1556
01:27:38.579 --> 01:27:42.319
at the same time, you know, teaching some responsible financial

1557
01:27:42.659 --> 01:27:46.100
budgeting practices to So how can teens and young adults, Laura,

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01:27:46.140 --> 01:27:49.939
learn to balance social spending while sticking to a realistic budget?

1559
01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:54.260
Yeah, you know, as teens start to earn their own income,

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01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:56.680
whether it's from a part-time job or their allowance, you

1561
01:27:56.699 --> 01:27:58.859
can help them think about a simple rule, which is

1562
01:27:58.859 --> 01:28:03.560
50% for their needs, 30% for their wants, and 20%

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01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:06.760
for savings. Now they can take that 30% for their

1564
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:09.600
wants and treat that as their fun budget. Have them

1565
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:11.649
list out what do they want to spend it on?

1566
01:28:11.859 --> 01:28:13.270
What is the budget and the limit they're going to

1567
01:28:13.310 --> 01:28:15.890
set for themselves? That way they start to learn about

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01:28:15.930 --> 01:28:19.789
budgeting without having to sacrifice the social life. And they

1569
01:28:19.810 --> 01:28:21.670
can start to make decisions around, do I want to

1570
01:28:21.710 --> 01:28:23.640
go to my friend's birthday party or to the concert?

1571
01:28:24.100 --> 01:28:27.420
They got to prioritize and make those decisions. The other

1572
01:28:27.460 --> 01:28:29.140
thing I'd say is what we're going to call loud budgeting.

1573
01:28:29.500 --> 01:28:31.920
Encourage your teen to be upfront with friends about, I

1574
01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:34.960
can't afford this maybe. rather than just trying to overspend

1575
01:28:34.979 --> 01:28:37.670
to keep up with everybody. Maybe it's okay to suggest

1576
01:28:37.689 --> 01:28:40.789
this cheaper hangout spot or get the costly outing. I

1577
01:28:40.829 --> 01:28:43.439
think teens are often surprised that they get more understanding

1578
01:28:43.449 --> 01:28:44.810
around those things than they expect.

1579
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:48.939
Right. Well, and the impact that it has, Laura, on

1580
01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:51.920
the peer group, right? Because there's probably others in the

1581
01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:54.560
peer group that want the same thing, but they're just

1582
01:28:54.659 --> 01:28:58.500
reticent to say something at the risk of maybe being

1583
01:28:58.539 --> 01:29:00.060
canceled out of that peer group.

1584
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:02.899
Exactly.

1585
01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:05.880
And now it's just creating the conversation that probably wants

1586
01:29:05.899 --> 01:29:07.380
to be had, and others are going to feel the

1587
01:29:07.420 --> 01:29:07.899
same way.

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01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:12.829
Well, we're talking with Laura Monferred. She's a consumer credit

1589
01:29:12.949 --> 01:29:17.890
card executive at Bank of America, responsible for ensuring consumer

1590
01:29:17.930 --> 01:29:22.890
card products and services, meeting clients' financial needs, driving responsible growth,

1591
01:29:23.289 --> 01:29:27.520
and managing product And speaking of driving responsible growth and

1592
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:32.300
some understanding, you know, how can we help our kids,

1593
01:29:34.819 --> 01:29:36.699
you know, build their credit responsibly?

1594
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:41.180
I think it's important at an early age to help

1595
01:29:41.220 --> 01:29:44.500
your teen understand the fundamentals of credit cards, which is,

1596
01:29:44.699 --> 01:29:47.039
you know, let's talk about the golden rules. Pay the

1597
01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:49.590
bill in full and on time every month. Keep your

1598
01:29:49.659 --> 01:29:52.520
balance below the credit limit. and treat that credit card

1599
01:29:52.579 --> 01:29:54.399
just like you would a debit card. You only spend

1600
01:29:54.430 --> 01:29:56.590
what you have in the bank. And so helping them

1601
01:29:56.609 --> 01:29:59.449
understand how to think about credit is important. The other

1602
01:29:59.489 --> 01:30:02.050
thing is they can start to build credit under your supervision.

1603
01:30:02.369 --> 01:30:04.329
So what you can do is add your teen to

1604
01:30:04.350 --> 01:30:06.779
an existing card account that you have as an authorized user.

1605
01:30:07.380 --> 01:30:09.319
And now they're going to start to establish their credit

1606
01:30:09.340 --> 01:30:11.560
history before applying for their own card. So it's a

1607
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:14.180
great way to jumpstart that. And then when it comes

1608
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:16.699
time for them to get their own credit card, have

1609
01:30:16.739 --> 01:30:19.420
the conversation around what's the best card for them. Maybe

1610
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:22.430
it's just a no-fee card that gives rewards on everyday

1611
01:30:22.449 --> 01:30:25.430
spend like gas, groceries, dining. That might be a better

1612
01:30:25.470 --> 01:30:28.590
fit than a premium high-fee travel card. So helping them

1613
01:30:28.630 --> 01:30:30.430
start to think about the rules of credit at an

1614
01:30:30.529 --> 01:30:33.409
early age and start to establish their credit history is

1615
01:30:33.449 --> 01:30:34.560
a great way to get started.

1616
01:30:35.319 --> 01:30:37.420
Yeah, Laura, I like that because you align it with

1617
01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:40.359
their budget, right? And that way they don't get themselves

1618
01:30:40.420 --> 01:30:44.159
into a situation where they're overspending and then they can't

1619
01:30:44.220 --> 01:30:46.949
pay the card off in full. And then they get

1620
01:30:46.989 --> 01:30:56.260
themselves into basically some sort of compromise and be beholden

1621
01:30:56.479 --> 01:31:01.939
to that payment. And it's frustrating. I know for our kids,

1622
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:07.729
when they challenged it and started realizing that the payment

1623
01:31:07.750 --> 01:31:10.470
they were making was just covering interest and it wasn't

1624
01:31:10.529 --> 01:31:13.369
doing much on the principal, it caused them to get

1625
01:31:13.430 --> 01:31:16.899
very frustrated. And I said, Well, let that pain teach you, right?

1626
01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:22.939
It's important to learn early on the idea of budgeting,

1627
01:31:22.979 --> 01:31:24.819
the idea of paying the bill on time, and the

1628
01:31:25.060 --> 01:31:27.399
concept of interest and making sure that they understand that

1629
01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:28.859
before they get their first credit card.

1630
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:29.800
Right.

1631
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:34.140
Well, let's talk about families and some strategy here. How

1632
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:39.239
do we start building a financial safety net for unexpected

1633
01:31:39.310 --> 01:31:40.439
expenses that happen?

1634
01:31:42.529 --> 01:31:45.390
Yes, they happen. So I would say safety. Set small

1635
01:31:45.449 --> 01:31:47.430
achievable milestones. What you don't want to do is set

1636
01:31:47.449 --> 01:31:49.869
this big lofty goal that then just deters you from

1637
01:31:49.909 --> 01:31:52.189
doing anything. So just like you prepare for bad weather,

1638
01:31:52.630 --> 01:31:55.329
prepare for financial surprises. It could be a car repair,

1639
01:31:55.369 --> 01:31:58.289
a medical bill, home improvement. So a good rule of

1640
01:31:58.350 --> 01:32:00.399
thumb is work towards a cushion of three to six

1641
01:32:00.449 --> 01:32:03.800
months worth of living expenses. And one easy thing to

1642
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:06.100
do is just set up automatic savings tools. And you

1643
01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:08.460
can teach your kids and teens to do this as well.

1644
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:12.659
Set up automated transfers from checking directly into a savings

1645
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:15.619
or an emergency fund and It could be $ 5, $ 10

1646
01:32:15.579 --> 01:32:17.659
at a time. It starts to add up and starts

1647
01:32:17.699 --> 01:32:20.279
to get you in the habit of it. Bank of America,

1648
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we have as an example, the Keep the Change program,

1649
01:32:22.899 --> 01:32:25.520
which automatically rounds up your debit card purchases to the

1650
01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:28.340
nearest dollar. And then it transfers that from your checking

1651
01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:29.970
your savings. But you don't have to think about it.

1652
01:32:29.979 --> 01:32:32.279
It might not be big dollar amounts, but it starts

1653
01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:35.090
to add up and it becomes easy. The last thing

1654
01:32:35.130 --> 01:32:37.760
I would say is find the hidden money. We all,

1655
01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:39.539
and I'm guilty of this too, we sign up for

1656
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monthly subscriptions and memberships and we never use them. We

1657
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forget about them. So find those, cancel them. You just

1658
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:48.300
found free money. Now put that into your emergency fund.

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01:32:48.420 --> 01:32:50.380
So just find these simple ways to start to get

1660
01:32:50.420 --> 01:32:51.439
your account going.

1661
01:32:52.380 --> 01:32:55.739
Well, as we wrap things up, Laura Manfred, thank you

1662
01:32:56.579 --> 01:33:00.100
for these great tips. Just summarize real quickly as we

1663
01:33:00.140 --> 01:33:02.319
wrap things up and then tell them where they can

1664
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go for more information.

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Sure.

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So- Think about setting a budget for your teen. Start

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small and set up easy ways to start saving.

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Make it a habit.

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You can learn more by going to BetterMoneyHobbits.com for more

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financial guidance and savings advice.

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01:33:19.750 --> 01:33:23.079
Well, she's a consumer credit card executive at Bank of America,

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01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:25.779
Laura Monferrat. Thank you, Laura. Take care. Have a great day.

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01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:28.119
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much better now. He feels like you resurrected, huh?

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like one and only no baloney. I may have to

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Okay. All right. We can get t-shirts on that one.

1751
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Yes.

1752
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Well, anyway, glad you're feeling better. It's good to have

1753
01:37:55.890 --> 01:37:58.430
you here. We missed you. Paul Aceh did a great job,

1754
01:37:58.470 --> 01:37:59.630
by the way. He didn't embarrass you.

1755
01:38:00.180 --> 01:38:00.840
Well, that's good.

1756
01:38:00.859 --> 01:38:02.979
I mean, he is sort of my boss these days,

1757
01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:04.579
so I wouldn't want him to embarrass me.

1758
01:38:05.020 --> 01:38:05.840
No, no.

1759
01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:08.000
Anyway, it's good to have him on. I want to

1760
01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:10.159
talk to you. Have you had a chance to read

1761
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:13.369
up at all on Jonathan Cahn's new book, Rabbi Cahn?

1762
01:38:13.390 --> 01:38:15.229
I have not, so talk to me about it and

1763
01:38:15.329 --> 01:38:16.109
I will respond.

1764
01:38:16.310 --> 01:38:19.670
Okay, you'll love this. The Altar of Pergamon. It's the

1765
01:38:19.729 --> 01:38:23.329
mystery of the dark angel and the future of the world. Now,

1766
01:38:23.909 --> 01:38:27.949
Jonathan Cahn, who was initially broke into the scene, how

1767
01:38:27.970 --> 01:38:32.359
many years ago, with the Harbinger. Okay, this was after 9-11.

1768
01:38:32.460 --> 01:38:34.960
Great book. I mean, I told him when I first

1769
01:38:35.579 --> 01:38:37.739
read it, interviewed him the first time, I said, you

1770
01:38:37.819 --> 01:38:41.279
chicken skinned me. Because throughout the book, you know, and

1771
01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:43.619
he didn't quite understand what I meant by chicken skin because,

1772
01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:45.939
you know, he goes, well, here I am. I'm a

1773
01:38:45.979 --> 01:38:48.359
Hebrew and I'm talking to this Mexican Gentile. What does

1774
01:38:48.390 --> 01:38:51.340
he know? And, uh, so anyway, he was, uh, he

1775
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:54.680
was very, you know, grace extending, let's put it that way.

1776
01:38:55.659 --> 01:38:58.119
And then a couple of years later, you know, we

1777
01:38:58.159 --> 01:38:59.699
were talking with a group of other people and I

1778
01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.359
mentioned that, you know, his revelation is chicken skin me.

1779
01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:05.520
And he had kind of quizzical look. And I said,

1780
01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:06.899
you don't understand what I mean by that.

1781
01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:07.819
He goes, no.

1782
01:39:07.859 --> 01:39:09.140
And a couple of other people said, we don't either.

1783
01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:11.430
I go, you know, like goosebumps. And I don't know

1784
01:39:11.510 --> 01:39:14.359
why I said chicken skin, but it just, I don't

1785
01:39:14.390 --> 01:39:16.609
know if I was at the time, you know, dealing

1786
01:39:16.630 --> 01:39:20.000
with poultry or whatever it was, but Anyway, it was

1787
01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:21.720
chicken skin and that's what it was for the longest time.

1788
01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:24.000
And he just thought, oh, that's just Martinez being goofy.

1789
01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:26.699
But anyways, when he finally got it, but the deal

1790
01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:29.159
is about Jonathan, you know, like with the Harbinger and

1791
01:39:29.180 --> 01:39:32.220
all his other books, you know, you have this sense

1792
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:35.520
that Jonathan, first of all, as a Messianic rabbi understands

1793
01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:39.060
the old Testament, all the nuances of Jewish tradition and everything.

1794
01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:43.380
And he brings that into light in the conversation. But

1795
01:39:43.539 --> 01:39:47.149
it's just that the things that he writes about you, you,

1796
01:39:47.989 --> 01:39:50.850
I tell you, you have this sense that he's talking

1797
01:39:50.890 --> 01:39:53.189
directly to God, and God's giving him his marching order

1798
01:39:53.220 --> 01:39:55.000
to say, okay, I want you to talk about this.

1799
01:39:55.039 --> 01:39:58.180
The people need to know about this. Like with 9-11, okay,

1800
01:39:58.199 --> 01:40:01.359
and the Harbinger, which is so uncanny because the points

1801
01:40:01.399 --> 01:40:04.159
that he brought out in that is that, did you

1802
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:07.180
know the scripture on that day at 9-11? Did you

1803
01:40:07.220 --> 01:40:10.100
know what it was? I mean, and this is everything.

1804
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:13.619
This is liturgy, you know, the liturgy. We're talking Catholic,

1805
01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:19.029
you know, synagogues, everything like that. Isaiah 9.10.

1806
01:40:19.029 --> 01:40:20.529
Which says what? Refresh me.

1807
01:40:20.659 --> 01:40:25.180
Exactly what happened on 9.11. It sets it up. It

1808
01:40:25.220 --> 01:40:27.880
sets up the deal that what happens was the Jewish

1809
01:40:27.939 --> 01:40:31.600
nation was judged and they got defiant. And they said,

1810
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:34.590
they didn't stop to think, you know, hey, let's take

1811
01:40:34.630 --> 01:40:41.340
some inventory here. You maybe this calamity that's happened to us,

1812
01:40:41.380 --> 01:40:43.439
you know, that we've been attacked and all of a

1813
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:46.680
sudden we can't defend ourselves, you know, our shield is gone,

1814
01:40:46.779 --> 01:40:51.010
our shield is gone, Skippa. You know, they didn't even think,

1815
01:40:51.020 --> 01:40:54.470
they just thought, okay, if we built it bigger and better,

1816
01:40:54.770 --> 01:40:56.869
then we'd be able to defend ourselves. Nobody stopped to

1817
01:40:56.890 --> 01:41:00.189
think for a moment, hey, have we upset God? Is

1818
01:41:00.229 --> 01:41:03.829
God's hand lifted away from us, right? So he brings

1819
01:41:03.890 --> 01:41:07.770
that to bear and he associates and runs the parallel

1820
01:41:07.789 --> 01:41:11.390
between Here in America on 9-11, what happened to us?

1821
01:41:11.810 --> 01:41:13.789
That all of a sudden the shield and the barriers

1822
01:41:13.810 --> 01:41:17.829
and the protective elements are missing.

1823
01:41:18.270 --> 01:41:18.489
Right.

1824
01:41:19.090 --> 01:41:21.350
And we don't stop to think that, hey, wait a minute,

1825
01:41:21.899 --> 01:41:24.279
where's God in this? Have we left God? Has God

1826
01:41:24.300 --> 01:41:25.319
left us? What's going on?

1827
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:27.979
Well, and I think, you know, just like the Israelites,

1828
01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:31.060
I think it's possible to read the Old Testament. And

1829
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:34.819
if you read a big chunk at once, you're like, man,

1830
01:41:34.859 --> 01:41:38.909
these guys weren't very smart. Like they learned lessons. for

1831
01:41:38.970 --> 01:41:43.159
about 30 seconds, and then they forget them, and then

1832
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:46.640
they have to learn them again. And yet, I mean,

1833
01:41:46.659 --> 01:41:49.119
I look at where we're at culturally on so many

1834
01:41:49.159 --> 01:41:54.600
different issues, and 9-11 was 25 years ago, which actually

1835
01:41:54.619 --> 01:41:57.760
seems impossible. It's both a long time, but it's a

1836
01:41:57.819 --> 01:42:02.729
blink historically. And I think, man, have we lost track

1837
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:07.800
so quickly of some of the core lessons of nine 11.

1838
01:42:07.800 --> 01:42:11.239
And I think we had a moment as a culture,

1839
01:42:11.880 --> 01:42:15.100
maybe of taking stock of a lot of things. But

1840
01:42:15.140 --> 01:42:19.270
at that moment, I fear has passed a long time

1841
01:42:19.310 --> 01:42:20.090
ago at this point.

1842
01:42:20.649 --> 01:42:23.229
For about three weeks was that moment. Yeah, exactly.

1843
01:42:23.430 --> 01:42:23.770
Exactly.

1844
01:42:23.789 --> 01:42:24.630
It wasn't very long.

1845
01:42:24.869 --> 01:42:25.189
Yeah.

1846
01:42:25.229 --> 01:42:29.869
People, people, you know, they scrambled to churches and unfortunately

1847
01:42:29.890 --> 01:42:34.609
the church was not prepared. They, they didn't, know how

1848
01:42:34.649 --> 01:42:37.369
to respond. So the people came and says, well, that's

1849
01:42:37.390 --> 01:42:39.789
not very relevant. So I'm leaving. So they were here.

1850
01:42:39.810 --> 01:42:43.609
They went, they didn't even buy a t-shirt. They just left. And, uh,

1851
01:42:43.710 --> 01:42:49.079
you know, sadly. And so anyway, uh, so Jonathan, you know,

1852
01:42:49.100 --> 01:42:50.979
comes up with these kinds of things. And there was

1853
01:42:51.100 --> 01:42:54.159
so much about nine 11, even to where, you know,

1854
01:42:54.180 --> 01:42:57.159
politicians were making statements. They didn't even know that were

1855
01:42:58.220 --> 01:43:04.850
Bible quotes and they were all tied in to Isaiah nine. uh, verbatim, uh,

1856
01:43:04.869 --> 01:43:08.520
Barack Obama, even same way, you know, on that capstone

1857
01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:11.460
that they put, you know, what he wrote on the

1858
01:43:11.479 --> 01:43:14.920
capstone right there, right there in the Bible. It's, it's

1859
01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:18.020
a reiteration of the defiance of the children of Israel

1860
01:43:18.470 --> 01:43:21.829
instead of seeing, Hey, wait a minute. Have we, what

1861
01:43:21.869 --> 01:43:24.930
are we doing here? And so we have continued to

1862
01:43:25.090 --> 01:43:28.039
amble forward. And now from, you know, as you say,

1863
01:43:28.029 --> 01:43:29.609
25 years, it's going to be 25 years next Friday, uh,

1864
01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:35.899
of the anniversary of 9-11, and Jonathan has been chronicling

1865
01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:41.449
these calamities and these signs of judgment, whether he did

1866
01:43:41.470 --> 01:43:45.670
it with the return of the gods and, you know, just...

1867
01:43:46.510 --> 01:43:48.710
He's had 10 bestsellers. This will be in his 11th.

1868
01:43:48.750 --> 01:43:50.800
No doubt it'll be a New York Times bestseller as well,

1869
01:43:51.460 --> 01:43:55.619
right out the gate. But here, it's what's happening right now,

1870
01:43:55.640 --> 01:43:59.680
and it's understanding what the altar of Pergamon represented. And

1871
01:43:59.699 --> 01:44:02.579
if you remember, Pergamon was... was born out of Turkey.

1872
01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:05.039
It was one of the seven churches that Jesus had

1873
01:44:05.100 --> 01:44:06.899
talked about in the book of revelations.

1874
01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:07.180
Right.

1875
01:44:07.779 --> 01:44:11.000
And, and what was at Pergamon was the, was the

1876
01:44:11.039 --> 01:44:14.500
throne of Satan. And when the throne of Satan was

1877
01:44:14.579 --> 01:44:17.390
on earth, it was buried, you know, buried and crushed.

1878
01:44:17.699 --> 01:44:20.470
And this was after the resurrection of Jesus, all that

1879
01:44:20.510 --> 01:44:23.329
went underground. Okay. And it got buried and the whole deal.

1880
01:44:23.350 --> 01:44:27.010
Now you get some curious archeologists from Germany, but then

1881
01:44:27.029 --> 01:44:29.350
it wasn't Germany, it was Prussia, but they were curious

1882
01:44:29.369 --> 01:44:31.939
and they brought, You know, they dig this out and

1883
01:44:31.979 --> 01:44:34.470
piece by piece, they put it in carts and take

1884
01:44:34.479 --> 01:44:35.050
it to Germany.

1885
01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:35.600
All right.

1886
01:44:35.909 --> 01:44:36.029
Yeah.

1887
01:44:36.050 --> 01:44:39.250
It's now Germany. And all of a sudden the altar,

1888
01:44:39.510 --> 01:44:44.470
Satan's throne is manifesting itself. And it's interesting on the

1889
01:44:44.529 --> 01:44:47.970
timing of this, when the altar goes to Germany and

1890
01:44:47.989 --> 01:44:52.520
it starts, it runs coincidental with the birth of Adolf Hitler.

1891
01:44:52.539 --> 01:44:54.159
Okay.

1892
01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:55.659
It's just starting to come to me out.

1893
01:44:56.319 --> 01:44:57.579
Okay. A little bit. Yeah.

1894
01:44:57.779 --> 01:45:00.619
Yeah. So this is what I'm saying. This all ties.

1895
01:45:00.850 --> 01:45:02.930
So when you think about history and what's going on

1896
01:45:03.069 --> 01:45:06.250
and the effect of what happened and what caused World

1897
01:45:06.270 --> 01:45:09.710
War I and World War II, and you see the demonic,

1898
01:45:09.989 --> 01:45:12.989
you know, for those, you see where we are right now, Adam,

1899
01:45:13.470 --> 01:45:16.600
is if you don't have eyes to understand, you know,

1900
01:45:16.720 --> 01:45:18.159
it's why Jesus spoke in parables.

1901
01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:19.720
Is that what he was here?

1902
01:45:19.739 --> 01:45:23.579
The people didn't have eternal eyes and ears. It was

1903
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:26.630
all very temporal. And so here we are today, if

1904
01:45:26.649 --> 01:45:29.649
you're temporally fixed, you're going to miss out on what

1905
01:45:29.710 --> 01:45:32.869
is hugely significant right now. And it's happening in the spiritual.

1906
01:45:33.489 --> 01:45:37.600
And this is the manifestation of the demonic of the

1907
01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:40.859
throne of Satan, which is the altar of Pergamon, which

1908
01:45:40.939 --> 01:45:45.279
is its tentacles have left Europe and now coming into

1909
01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:49.239
the West and were even manifest under the Obama administration.

1910
01:45:49.260 --> 01:45:53.300
Because if you remember, if you remember his, one of

1911
01:45:53.340 --> 01:45:56.670
the speeches that he gave, If you remember the backdrop,

1912
01:45:56.710 --> 01:46:00.109
I remember when I saw this, I go, this is bizarre.

1913
01:46:01.210 --> 01:46:04.439
I didn't quite sense that it was demonic. I just

1914
01:46:04.500 --> 01:46:07.420
knew I was uncomfortable about it. But when you now

1915
01:46:07.479 --> 01:46:09.500
look at it in light of this book and what

1916
01:46:09.539 --> 01:46:10.680
Jonathan reveals here.

1917
01:46:10.699 --> 01:46:12.539
Yeah.

1918
01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:14.560
It's hanging.

1919
01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:19.100
And I think I don't have to look very far

1920
01:46:20.890 --> 01:46:23.170
into our culture. And you and I talk about cultural

1921
01:46:23.210 --> 01:46:25.600
stuff every week. But I mean, I think the other

1922
01:46:25.619 --> 01:46:27.579
thing that's not related to the book, but I can't

1923
01:46:27.619 --> 01:46:31.079
help but think about, you know, is this Lindsay Clancy

1924
01:46:31.140 --> 01:46:36.739
trial and the response to a mother, you know, killing

1925
01:46:36.779 --> 01:46:40.189
her own children, somehow trying to turn her into the victim.

1926
01:46:40.369 --> 01:46:45.069
I know that there's a real conversation happening about postpartum depression,

1927
01:46:45.329 --> 01:46:47.590
and I don't want to minimize that. I wrestle with

1928
01:46:47.609 --> 01:46:53.159
depression myself. I'm sympathetic to the reality that there are

1929
01:46:53.180 --> 01:46:57.130
hard things that people have to deal with. And yet I,

1930
01:46:57.619 --> 01:47:00.159
I just feel like, you know, why do you call

1931
01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:03.689
that which is evil good? You know, like that something

1932
01:47:03.770 --> 01:47:07.029
happened here that is, is bigger than that issue. And

1933
01:47:07.050 --> 01:47:12.060
I think much darker and we're seeing, um, so many

1934
01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:16.619
women just rallying to the side of this woman saying, Oh,

1935
01:47:16.659 --> 01:47:20.869
she was just misunderstood. I'm like, Man, it's hard to

1936
01:47:20.909 --> 01:47:23.189
get my head around where we're at culturally.

1937
01:47:23.550 --> 01:47:26.229
Well, because we don't want to take responsibility.

1938
01:47:26.590 --> 01:47:27.609
Oh, that's the core issue.

1939
01:47:27.649 --> 01:47:30.569
We have for the decades now, we need to blame

1940
01:47:30.649 --> 01:47:33.729
something or someone else. We can't say, hey, look, it

1941
01:47:33.750 --> 01:47:39.970
was my decision, my choice. And yeah, it's this decision

1942
01:47:40.010 --> 01:47:43.569
and what's being, you know, decided by this jury is

1943
01:47:43.590 --> 01:47:46.569
so key. Because like you said, it will put a

1944
01:47:46.609 --> 01:47:51.170
message out to the rest of people dealing with depression,

1945
01:47:51.649 --> 01:47:56.130
that it's okay. It's okay to murder somebody. You're justified.

1946
01:47:56.350 --> 01:47:59.689
Again, I think, I want to be careful here, but

1947
01:47:59.710 --> 01:48:04.600
I think about the Old Testament and its references to

1948
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:11.840
sacrificing children to the pagan gods. I think that we

1949
01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:18.340
are in a culture that both literally and metaphorically sacrifices

1950
01:48:18.420 --> 01:48:22.220
children to God. that want to devour them, you know,

1951
01:48:22.399 --> 01:48:24.880
instead of pointing them toward the one true God.

1952
01:48:25.439 --> 01:48:28.319
Right, exactly. Well, you know, look at the numbers of abortions,

1953
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:29.420
you know.

1954
01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:29.859
Oh, yeah.

1955
01:48:30.060 --> 01:48:33.100
Perfect case in point. And here we are. I mean,

1956
01:48:33.159 --> 01:48:35.789
even after Roe v. Wade, everybody's freaking out going, oh,

1957
01:48:35.829 --> 01:48:38.829
that's going to do away. Actually, abortions are up. since

1958
01:48:38.909 --> 01:48:42.050
we moved Roe v. Wade to the States. So look,

1959
01:48:42.069 --> 01:48:44.949
that's to be determined. You would think that there's enough

1960
01:48:44.989 --> 01:48:48.619
heartbreak because we have testimonies of women who have bought

1961
01:48:48.699 --> 01:48:50.960
into the big lie and they regret that they have

1962
01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:54.060
aborted their children. You talk about dealing with depression, suicide,

1963
01:48:54.420 --> 01:48:56.680
all that's been associated with the choice that they've made.

1964
01:48:58.420 --> 01:49:01.149
It's absolutely heartbreaking, not to mention for these children that

1965
01:49:01.189 --> 01:49:03.630
didn't even get a chance to live a life, have children,

1966
01:49:03.670 --> 01:49:07.779
have a family, or even realize what God had imparted

1967
01:49:07.899 --> 01:49:11.279
in them in terms of a purpose and a vision. Anyway,

1968
01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:13.960
we got to leave it there. As always, I appreciate

1969
01:49:13.979 --> 01:49:14.479
your insight.

1970
01:49:15.079 --> 01:49:15.350
You bet.

1971
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:15.920
All right.

1972
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:17.840
Thank you. And how can people be in touch?

1973
01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:21.689
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1974
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