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0:01 Are you ready? Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Well, good morning and Aloha America. Bill Martinez coming to you live from Maui, Hawaii, and we've got to Grover, Northwest on the other side of the planet almost Grover. Good morning. How are you, sir? Hi here in d C. Keeping an eye on them? Well, speaking of which, what's the latest buzz? I mean, we're still, you know, obviously still trying to get our heads on straight about the sudden passing of one Lindsay Graham. Right, Yeah, Lindsay Graham was a friend. He saved the president's tax cut, that the one in the second term, the big beautiful veil we had. Normally, when you tax cuts inside reconciliation, which means you don't you can pass it with a simple majority vote fifty votes plus the Vice president. You don't need a single Democrat vote. There is no Democrat that would help you pass taxes, tax cuts, tax cuts, pass these bills. They all vote no. They don't want the per child tax credit increase. They don't want your rates reduced, they don't want lower taxes on investment for new jobs. They don't want business taxes lower so we can compete with China.

1:24 All of these things, everything that promotes growth. Grover. It's amazing how anti growth they are. Right, well, it makes sense. Economic growth reminds the American people that freedom brings prosperity, not government. They look to businessmen and women. They start talking about Elon Musk being a great guy. Who talks about any senator or congressman. The way people talk about Elon Musk is like doing amazing things and he's rich, but he's only got a sliver of the value of what he's created. All these people who buy stock in this, they're part owners. They didn't invent it, they didn't think of it, they didn't do it. Well, they did do it. They contributed the capital to make it happen. They they are part of that.

2:06 That's what freedom is about. So it's it's the Democrats would prefer not to have growth. They really liked the Great Depression because the government got to allocate all the resources, and they're not really big on periods of strong economic growth like under Reagan. Because I'm sorry, what's there for me to do except get in the way and cause problems. Yeah, I got a regulation for you and for you and everybody gets a regulation, right. That'll slow it down. That'll slow it down. Get those regnitions and then they're important again. Then the businessmen come and beg them to, you know, loosen the noose a little, just a little bit. Here's a danger coming. I believe we will defeat it, but be aware because it starts to sneak up on us every once in a while.

2:53 It's not the first time we've seen this critter. And it's called a bi partisan commission that's going to neutrally decide how to raise trillions of dollars in taxes. And we saw, unfortunately, one Republican uh Marino, Bernie Marino of Ohio, along with Elizabeth Warren put together for Elizabeth Warren's peace, let's have a three trillion dollar tax increase, not reform social security, just just pay put more money in so it will fail for your children and grandchildren, not for you. But they don't fix it, they don't perform it. They don't turn into something where there's real savings, like a four to win k or an ira, which other countries have done. It's not like unheard of. We do it all the four one k a retirement account. People have real retirement and when when they pass away, there's real money that goes to their children, SoC security. You there's nothing, there's nothing saved for you or your children at all.

3:55 So we got to rethink how they do that because it doesn't work. It makes people poor, not rich, or not more prosperous. But Marino said, we're gonna spend three trillion dollars just keeping it going and fixing nothing and improving nothing. Actually it was you know, that wasn't his idea. That was that was Elizabeth Warren's idea, Pokmonta's, and he signed on to it to appear on a bipartisan progressive something, but he was pretty much alone and every conservative, even the Heritage Foundation, which is a little bit wildly these days compared to what it used to be. Cablos Star Wars, that's the north North Star, that's where you're looking at. They're wandering off of it. This one boom boom knew this is crazy. Very helpful of them and very good to hear. There's now a group of let's do that, not just the one time, but big okay and we're going to have appointed people, like not elected people, make these decisions. We have a commission to reform social security.

4:56 It's called the House of Representatives, which is mentioned in the Constitution. It's called the Senate, which is mentioned in the Constitution several times. Actually, And there's a president and they pass a lot and then he signs it or he doesn't, and then you have a bill. They go, no, we can't pass what we want to pass massive patch increases without this cover that some other group did it, and then. Yeah, you can blame them. Yeah, let's blame them, right, yeah, exactly. My goodness, this is in front of me and I have to vote yes or no in thirty six hours, and I can't think about it. Rush, rush, rush, And I can't amend it because then the Congress would be back into being Congress and governing and that they'd be responsible because everyone could not what I would have done.

5:43 But it was the you know, it was the commission. I didn't like this part of it. I like, but I voted, you know, I voted for the whole thing, but I didn't like this. So once they tried this a number of years ago, and Arrington is a Republican and named congressman from Texas. He wanted to sneak this, and he made the mistake of somehow talking to us and thinking that we might think it'd be a good idea to sneak a tax increase into the budget. And we spoke to the leadership House leadership, Senate leadership that wanted nothing to do with this, and most Houses and Senate guys alerted to it. We're doing a letter to everybody about this new threat of setting up commission that will secretly do a tax increase, and everybody in a concience, Hey, you don't see my fingerprints on I was there. I have an alibi. I was in the bar. I was you know, I was watching TV show. Somebody else shot him.

6:37 And they do this from time to time because they have it. It's not like they haven't planned out what they want. They know exactly what they want. They also know they could never pass it through the House and send it and get Trump to sign it exactly. But poor Republicans jumped on with the usual Democrats. Doesn't matter, Democrats, this is what the Democrat idea, they would do it. But these are the people who Trump has argued with primary and they're leaving, and Cornon and the gentleman from Louisiana. And guys like that, we're telling Cassidy and then you're right. Yes, sorry, thank you. Tillis as well, which surprises me.

7:21 Tillis has been very heroic when he was the Speaker of the House in North Carolina. They're facing their come talks down to zero because he led the fight. So so he's great on this stuff. But President poked him one too many times and threatened a primary, so he said I'm not running again and out the door. He ain't doing any favors for the president, so why not play with this idea? And again, to be fair to him, he's new to the Senate, the House. He doesn't know the other team pulls. This is a trick a few years, so he may think it's real, but but it could katcha. The press will be there blowing you know, you try and start a fire, as of boys, if you wrought it, the press will be there blowing on it, trying to get the fire to start. I think we'll be able to stop it, but only because you and your listeners are hearing about it now. The day after they dropped it and I think one there are two fake. If you want to know which conservative groups are fake, the ones that endorse this are fake. There's a Committee for Responsible Budget. Committee for Responsible Federal Budget. They always endorse all the Democrat proposals. They endorsed Obamacare, massive spending and tax they were a massive giveaway to the bailouts and so on, and then they condemn all tax cuts because they're not responsible. Spending more money is responsible. And it's run by a left wing Democrat. But the problem is, there are a handful of Republicans who joined the board

8:53 thinking it was going to be back and forth. I told a few of them, and they're old, they're checked out. They're on some board directors. They don't care. It's no they do know, but they don't care. And so but so they stay on there and people use that well operason things. That's a good idea and a little bit one of them, you know, would like to be a player, maybe, and maybe this would be his way into the door. But if you have to sell the taxpayers of the country down the river in order to be a player, that's a rather hire. I'll invite you over for chief for free. Really, why not, We've got to go to quit. Break more from Grover after this stay with us. This report is sponsored by IBM. A new study from the IBM Institute for Business Value reveals a growing disconnect between executive perceptions of AI progress and employee experience. Executives report AI driven role change at twice the rate employees experience it. Eighty one percent say AI skills are rewarded, yet forty three percent of employees lack employer AI training and fifty percent say AI obscures contributions upartn Anaire, IBM's Chief Talent Leadership and Culture Officer.

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14:03 Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here along with the President of Americans for Tax Reformer, America's pre eminent center right expert on taxes, Grover Norquis Grover. What's so frustrating for Americans and why they need to respond is that look at every household during the Biden era and even now, you know, our meeting and saying, okay, what can we do? How can we save money? The adjustments that we have to make certainly a little bit better because of the big beautiful Bill, you know, a little less cuts. Kids are able to participate in baseball programs or you know, dance recitals or whatever it is that we're you know, we're considered discretionary. But meanwhile, our Congress thinks just the opposite. You know, they just see all this money that the government's taken in and they just can't help themselves. What how can we get a message to them to you know, stop it.

14:55 But there are a couple of interesting ideas, and some you have to think long term, because there's very little you can do between now and next Tuesday. But if you want to end the slave trade in Britain, you start forty years ahead and you can you can get it done. If you want women to have the vote in the United States, you start forty years ahead and you get it done. And if the people who keep coming to the room, I have a plan to fix it tomorrow, you almost have to show them the door. If the audience goes, well, if we can do it tomorrow, we'll follow that guy well. And then they eventually come back and go, Okay, we realize it's going to take more than tomorrow. And fiscal discipline is in that zone.

15:36 At the state level. Americans for Tax Reform has been working with twelve states now to phase their income tax to zero, to put a cap on spending, and when revenue comes up above that, instead of spending the additional money, you just cut the income tax. So how do you pay for getting read of the income tax? You pay for it by not spending. That's concept right. You don't replace the income you don't spend the I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said the tax the taxes. When you talk to somebody, if you want to know whether they're a Republican or Democrat, you ask to talk about taxes. And when they refer to the taxes as income, they work for the government and their own cuts. If they refer to taxes as a cost in their life, then there they're Republicans and they work for a living. H And every once in a while you can find a fake Republican who talks about losing money because of the tax cut. Yeah, he is standing next to the government.

16:36 When he talks about losing money. The government's losing money. Everybody else is gaining money when you cut taxes. But everyone when I mentioned that to somebody, they they almost don't get it. They don't even hear themselves. They just know which team they're on. And a tax cut is a lots of revenue, not a gain in income. They have to be nuts when they see all the billionaires, the oligarchy tour, you know that Bernie Sanders talks about. This just has to bust their heads wide open when they see everyday Americans, you know, through their hard work and Moxie have become, you know, so affluent, and they got all that money and they don't have any And what congressman in the history of mankind has generated anything of value like what Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk have generated.

17:31 Not to mention others, I think Jeff Bezos said something very important when somebody asked, well, when do you start giving you away your money? And he said, I can't imagine. I don't know how to do something to give away a billion dollars that would be better for the country than to invest it in Amazon, to hire people, to get people products sooner, to save time hours out of a day were they have to drive to working back. The more I can do that, the more I can expand it. Every day i'm doing that, I'm making the American people better up. I can't think of a financial contribution I can make to a charity that would be as successful as that, because because I know what I'm exactly how the money is being spent inside my company and the benefit to all Americans in lower costs. Uh And and unless time taken up by by living here by shopping, nobody wants No man wants to spend a lot of time shopping, so you're freed up time. But uh, this is one where the Democrats spend a lot of time promoting envy and hatred of successful and uh, this is this happens around the world. That that that the Russian Communists didn't like the cool ox. What was a cool a farmer who owned some land as opposed to a surf who worked on somebody else's. Then they were they were They weren't exactly rich, but they owned their own land. And they would say the kool as the reason you're poor is because of the because he has

19:03 land and you don't. Of course the comments didn't give anybody, they just stole the But but they play the envy card. Uh, and you see it in bigotry. People go oh in Indonesia, they oh, the Chinese are you know, they are very successful businessmen and women and then we should be mad at them and not like them. Also ethnically different. Uh, the Armenians around the Middle East are very successful. In people's I don't know, I don't like that. So it's the Lebanese and Africa or in the Indians in uh the place I was that U in South East Africa are the are the guys, businessmen and women, the people who buy sell stuff. People were mad at Jews because Jewish Bank or all that stuff. The regarts are playing into this envy thing and this racial and sometimes religious hatred thing. It's really ugly what they do, but it's implet They have to do it to soften up the target.

20:08 They have to get you to hate someone because he's ethnically different. There's some wrong religion and that's some sort of trick and how they get rich and and and they they work on Saturdays, and they work on Saturdays. They get up at five o'clock in the morning while you're sleeping till ten, right, and they're taking risk, they're borrowing money from relatives and doing whatever they can NonStop twenty four to seven. And now you're going to penalize them for their merits. It takes a lot of time to get people to out contempt for this guys and to not like them, which is why it sometimes goes along with biggotree. But the Left does that so they can soften up the target and then say we're going to tax them, and then people, well, it's not me. And I do know from Twitter that there's something wrong with that them. So our job as Americans is to stand hand to hand and say we're all the same. You want taxes, we will pay five percent, we'll pay four percent, but we're not going to tax some people with a graduated income tax and not others. This was Karl Marx's list of ten things to be that would make communism communism the Communist Manifesto Number two A graduated or progressive income tax.

21:22 Graduated also known as progressive income even under Carl Marx's dates, known as progressive. So they want that wisely, so you can divide people by class and loot some of them when you want to. And that is a very important thing. Where you're seeing the country right now, they're twelve years ago, there were i'm sorry, six years ago, there were eight states with no income talks. Today they're sixteen. We've doubled the number of states where they say we're not dividing people against each other. We're all going to pay the same rate. We're you know, we're looking at our friends in Mississippi did this in Louisiana and Georgia, they're on their way that they haven't quite done it yet, but they're on the way. To do it in South Carolina, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Ohio most recently just a year ago. All of these states have said, Iowa, we reject this class envy thing.

22:25 Are now that they also said, and by the way, we're going to zero, but we're going to start by all getting to three or four or two, and then we go down to zero from there because we're going to start treating people the same. And oh Kansas has passed a law that will get them in a couple of years to go to flat rate tax as well. And we're looking at a number of other states where they're trying to but they just haven't gotten it done yet. North Dakota's down to two rates. They want to go to one. Arkansas's got nine rates, but they're all next to each other. I don't know why they have lots of little rates, but they want to go to one rate as well. So at the state level, I hope Washington's watching and listening. Sometimes I write the letters and talk to them and say, hey, look at what's going on in the states. But we really are seeing at the state level in red states, a demand treats the same one rate, and there's a measure on the ballot in Michigan. In Massachusetts, the liberals there went to two rates.

23:22 They used to have one, they went to two. They only won that by fifty one percent. Okay, So people came back and said, we're going to take this from five to eight down to four, so everybody's going to get a tax cut and it'll be flat. And they threw it off the ballot. They were so scared of it. We're gonna come back in two years. But they came up with this ridiculous reason that the Democratic secretary of State wrote a description of it, which is their job to do. And then the Supreme Court said, that's such a poorly written description by the Democrat secretary of state, we throw it off the ballot. Not tell her to change the description to an accurate one, but we throw it off the ballot. And the guys up there said, well, we'll get more signatures for a new one if you're they're not enough. It's up two years from now. They'll be back. But even Massachusetts liberal Democrat Massachusetts wants to go to a flat rate tax. And the elite knows it, and they fear that so much that they cheat like that.

24:18 So obviously cheat in a non democratic manner in order to stop people from being able to vote yes no on envy. The Democrats cheating. Can you imagine that I'm shocked in a ball. He's president of Americans for Tax for Form, America's preeminent center right expert on taxes, grow vering request the website they can go to to make sure that they are an informed, consent voter. Sure Americans for Tax Reform is the group. The website is atr dot org. Atr dot org. Do you have Medicare and do you use a SEAPAP machine? This is a National healthcare alert regarding your SEAPAP supplies. Using a clean SEAPAP mask and clean supplies is important to staying healthy. The best way to make sure your SEATPAP equipment is clean is to get new supplies. If you have Medicare, we have great news. Medicare will pay for you to have new clean supplies every ninety days.

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28:26 And we're back with you and welcome. Good to have you with us. Bill Martinez here, Aloha to you as we continue coming to you live from Maui, Hawaii, and I'm talking with the Manhattan based Fox News contributor clear across the world. It seems they're in New York. Deroy Murdoch. Deroy, how are we doing, buddy? Uh? Well, I'm a great Bill, not as well as you are in Hawaii. What a lovely place to spend part of your Summer's fantastic. Yeah, it's a great time here with the family and the kids. It's been a long time coming. It's been a couple of years, but it's great to see him. You know, in a couple of years in these kiss grow up so quick to roy as you know. I mean the last time they were here, I was taking them out golfing, and I mean, you know, and their typical Hawaiian kids. I mean they're in the water all the time and body boarding, you know, surfing and all that kind of stuff. It's just amazing. It's just such a delight, you know, I was sharing with somebody else.

29:20 You know, when when you're around your your kids and grandkids and you have moments like this, you just say, God, you know what I could I could go right now and feel very fulfilled and satisfied. Well, you know, church, why you can, because, as you know, these moments go by quickly and then we can get older. And one thing I found interesting about I mean children, my friends who do they're gigantic. I don't know if kids are if they're drinking more milk or there's something to water supply. But I have a lot of friends, like college friends are about my height and they're kids, and women are all oftent taller than I am, and guys are like seven feet tall. I mean you could, you know, like Baron Trump. I mean, that guy's almost like, oh my god, the NBA six eight sixty nine. Yeah, it's crazy. So you know we're gonna be a species of giants very soon.

30:05 Well, I guess I don't know what's in the water, but I'm with you, I agree. Look at a lot to catch up on since you and I last talked. And of course, the big surprise over the weekend was the passing of Lindsey Graham. You knew him, right, I mean you never. Met the man. I mean I saw him on No, I had not saw him on on TV. And then you know, all sorts of political contexts for many years, and I know, certainly working at Fox News, he was on screen all the time. He's on Hannity, he'd be on Jessein Waters, he would be on our weekend shows. The guy was an excellent spokesman for generally our side most of the time and was definitely out there making the case, making the argument, talking in simple ways that regular folks could understand.

30:47 And it was one of the great advocates for you know, for most of the Mega and America First and Trump agenda. And what a shock when I. Was actually and in the newsroom onnth Saturday night Sunday morning about two am or so, and a couple of colleagues might say, hey, Lindsay Graham just died, Oh my god, And I said really, I said, yep, I don't know what happened. Eventually we learned it was a torny order and with the Richt order. I mean, there's an amount of CPR that's going to bring you back from that, unfortunately. But I think, yeah, everyone liked dislike Lindsay Graham left middle right. I think the main emotion was shocked, Oh my god, I can't believe this guy left and went so quickly right. And the thing is is that, you know, for all that he did and try to do in terms of crossing the aisle and trying to you know, make the Senate work, even when he was in the minority, he has been one of those fundamental and consistent players to try to find middle ground. And but the left, of course, the radical left there, so you know, off the off the Richter scale here that you know, they're talking of him like as if he was Hitler incarnate, you know.

31:51 Yeah, and you know, I've seen some of these nasty comments they made about him, and they didn't even wait until the guy was in the bury the ground. The attacks started a couple hours after he was after died, and they're calling him all sorts of names and saying it was a warmonger and all this sort of thing. And you think they either could be quiet for a day or two or you know, try to find something gracious to say about him, like, okay, well I didn't agree with him, but he was a very good advocate for his cause. That sort of thing. Now, this instant uh acrimony, instant bitterness, and this is the difference between the left and the right. People and right either find something positive to say about somebody or you know, keep your big mouth shut. And the people on the left just just started with the uh, you know, the incoming uh you know, while the guy was still you know, probably in the hospital waiting to be taking a medical examiner.

32:34 It's just truly disgraceful, unfortunately, very typical of the left today. Well, of course, you know, as a supporter of Israel, that's a pox on him right away. And yeah, he defended that, he defended Brett Kavanaugh, uh, you know, in the uh, in the hearings, the confirmation hearings, uh and and said very plainly that the Democrats were more interested in power and control, and that, in so many words, he wished that they did not ever attain it. Yeah. Well, I think one of his great moments was during the whole Kavanaugh circus when he came out and said that people who were attacking him were completely unfair, that they were making up this whole story about this woman blazy Ford, claiming that he had molested her or arrassed her, raped her back when they were in high school.

33:22 This woman couldn't name the location, she couldn't. Name the date. I don't think she could name the month. And then she said, well, you know, when it was all left, she all done, she left the party, and you know, basically Ubert at home, a cabin at home, not apparently not a lot of cabs cruising around that part of Maryland. I guess where they grew up. Her story didn't hold any water, and yet the Democrats were running around as if Kavanaugh or some sort of a serial rapist, and Graham had had it. He just let him have it. It just attacked them in the Judiciary committee room. It was the most. Effective and sort of robust engagement or statement or anything I've intervened is what I'm looking for that I've ever heard from Lindsay Graham. And a lot of people looked like, Wow, where did that guy come from?

34:05 And he really bossed me. He was very much attached to the hip to John McCain, who passed away I think was around twenty fourteen ash or so. And after that, I think he really came into his own even more so, especially at the time of the of the Kavanaugh hearings right exactly. And the thing is also in you know, relationship to the Kavanaugh hearings, is that you know, Lindsay you know, believed Kavanaugh. I mean, his story was so credible. I mean, talk about picking the wrong guy. I mean, here's a guy that had calendars, you know it all the way back when he was in school and you know kind of deal and and here Blazey Ford is putting up this hallow story that could hold no water. And it was clear. And I thought the Republicans did a great job in interviewing her, you know, not by the you know, each senator, but they had a proxy come in and do the interviews. You'll recall it was a woman, and uh, you know you could tell that Blazy Ford was you know that her, you know her you know, indictments or her accusations were so hollow. And then of course she had said she had nothing to do with anything with you know, birth control or or the abortion issue and all that, and then you find out later she works for an abortiveation company.

35:29 And how about that? Isn't that interesting? Yeah, and. There were no consequences for her. I mean it was very clear to me that I was just going to bring it exactly. Either made this stuff up or imagined it or loosened into it, and no, no repercussions, no consequences, no anything. Uh, this woman just got away with I think, just basically come up with totally fake charges and nothing happened. A lot of that happens, unfortunately a lot of these accusers, Like in the Ducal Cross case. Uh, this woman who was in Rolling Stones saying she'd been raped at UV, that story didn't hold it all. She was saying that she escaped, ran down a fire escape at the frat house. Well there's no fire escape at the frat house. That doesn't exist. And she said all that somebody apparently, I guess, broke a coffee table. There was broken glass all over the place, and these fraternity brothers raped her on top of broken glass, and who does that? So that the story didn't hold up? And then I guess it turned out that she made it up. And I don't think anything ever happened to her. These people just, oh, well, whatever, it's cool, I have a good day.

36:24 Buy we look at the impact, look at the impact on these young men in their lives and their education. I think immediately they were suspended some maybe and expelled that I don't remember the exact details, but I remember it was horrendous, especially after it was all said and done, that she was, you know, she'd made the story up very much so. And in the case of the Duke lacrosse players, I know somebody who tangential link. It's the friend of a friend of a friend kind of thing. And my understanding is one of these guys moved back to New York and was so distraught about this that he just crawled in a bottle and just developed a really bad alcohol problem because he was so heartbroken and did nothing wrong and was just looked down upon by everyone who saw him as some kind of a rapist when nothing like that happened. And apparently the guy either you know, started drinking or kept drinking and didn't stop.

37:11 So this is the kind of thing that can happen to people when they're put in these horrible situations when they do nothing wrong, they don't engage in any inappropriate activity, and people make stuff up and they never you know, they're never able to scrub the taint off of them for things in which they. Never engage, which is grotesquely unfair. Yeah, the the things. In closing out this segment here, I just wanted to go back on Lindsey Graham. My wife was telling me that Lindsey Graham, when they checked his finances, he had a I don't even think two million dollars. This is somebody who had been in Congress in the Senate all these years, and unlike so many of these other elected officials who leave or die with a bank account that a choke, a horror, Lindsay Graham had a little over a million dollars. Are you kidding me?

38:04 Well, I guess that tells us that, you know, like the guy or not, he wasn't a thief. You know, you're right about these people who come in. You know, the Obama's a great example. They came in with basically nothing. I think some income from his books, and I think they're worth a quarter of a billion dollars now million, two hundred and fifty. Nancy Pelosi, of course, is the poster girl for this thing. She's I guess, making what one hundred and eighty two hundred thousand dollars as the former Speaker of the House. And she's got what is it, five residences, she's got one or two vineyards, living really high on the hog. Yeah, thank you very much, Thank you very much. Way to people. I love a got it. This report is sponsored by IBM. A new study from the IBM Institute for Business Value reveals a growing disconnect between executive perceptions of AI progress and employee experience. Executives report AI driven role change at twice the rate employees experience it. Eighty one percent say AI skills are rewarded.

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42:44 And we're talking with the New York based man at based box Neeers Control there, Deroy Murdoch. Deroy, you know you and I've been chewing on this forever, it seems, and here we are. It's the song that will never end. And that's the United States verse is Iran. Trump is again putting firepower there, and I think he just has to just close the deal once and for all with them. And meanwhile, and I think what we're further encouraging him is that President Ji has has told has told Iran you cannot, you know, create interference there in the Strait of Hormuz. Well that's great. Maybe maybe the I toldas will listen to Shijinping and the Chinese government, which is one of their biggest clients.

43:30 You know, so much of their oil goes to China, as you well know, so in the closest straight of hormves. That just makes life miserable for the Chinese, so I think are the biggest recipients of Iranian oil. But you know, I thought this thing had wound down, that we're going to have some kind of a peace agreement or ceasefire whatever, And then the Iranians didn't really cease fire. They just slowed it down sort of, you know, slow down fire supposed to cease fire, and then it of course heated back up. And now apparently we're back in the. Blockade aspect of this kind of this com and the Iranians, I guess, going to try again to close the straight on our moves, and they just don't seem to learn any matter. So we may have to teach them some more manners yet again. And I hope we wrap this up soon because people last thing people need is an increase in energy prices.

44:13 Well, I've been saying you got to send in the Marines, to send in the Marines, you know, get it done, get it over with. I know people are upset, they don't want boots on the ground or do whatever, but hey, look at you know, we're dragging this thing out. They continue to lie. I mean, there's what truth What true statement have they made and followed up on? Deroy I can't think of one. I can't either. These people are grotesquely dishonest. You know, that's one of the biggest. Fears I have is that they don't seem to agree to or don't seem to keep their word on any agreement. So any agreement we signed with them is probably it's so fact they're going to be violated. So I guess you just need to neutralize the point where they're just unable to respond at all. So I guess I guess that means more ordnance from above, more you know, more more metal coming down from the skies, until these people just don't have the ability to respond and cause anybody in grief.

45:06 You know, durr, here we are two years has been two years already since Butler, right, and the attempted assassination of the President's amazing. Think about it, and he admits, he says, yes, you know, by God's grace he was saved and praised that God will continue to look out for him. The Iotola has put it out a fatah or put out a you know, a kill statement on Donald Trump, and so you know, he's made it clear. The iotola has made it clear that they want Donald Trump gone. Of course, like that's no big surprise, and you know here it is. You think about all that Donald Trump has been dealing with. He's dealing with, you know, this hot mess in Iran in the Middle East, everything that's going on there, attempt at assassinations and a Democratic party and even some members of his own party. It's like, I mean, every once in a while, I go, why is he doing this? But at the same time, thank god he's doing it, because if not Donald Trump, then.

46:04 Who well certainly, I mean it would have been if not him, base on the last selection have been Kamala Harris and imagine us being in this conflicence that ran right now with Kamala Harrison charge rather than Donald J. Trump. I think they would have all the hold all the cards, that have all the leverage, and we would be in a position of credible weakness in peril. And absolutely, I think Trump is incredible in terms of his energy, his focus. The man is just unsinkable. And I think even his critics have got to say, look for a guy of eighty years old who's able to work pretty much around the clock, and he's, you know, three in the morning, he's still at it, and then he's back at it again after an hour two of sleep. It's really quite astonishing, and I'm sure that the left wishes they had somebody with that level of energy and stamina that he does.

46:49 And look what he's doing in terms of his vision for America about having a Golden Age for America. You know, over nineteen trillion dollars of foreign investment, what he done in terms of opening space for artificial intelligence, the races on the space and everything else. And you know, meanwhile, the Democrats are coming up because they're so adversarial and Trump Arrangements syndrome. I think they're gonna it's gonna require decades of therapy for them because they're so brain damaged over Donald Trump. They can't even think straight. Because even when they try and articulate, you know, some sort of political position, it's like, what are you taking lessons from Kamala Harris?

47:33 I mean everything non. Sequitured and nonsensical. Yeah, I mean a couple of examples of this. Look, if you don't like Trump's program, grade, offer an alternative or go out in protest. But people who don't like Trump decided to take it out of the reflecting pool and cut up the plastic lighting they put into tight. I think it's forty five thousand gallons of water a day from leaking. You can't have that. You can't have Trump fixed the reflecting pool. So you got to have people go out and tall the thing to pieces. Another thing I remember seeing a few weeks ago, Trump was coming down the stairs on Air Force one and he was holding on the railing and very carefully going down one step at a time, and they're like, oh, look at Trump piece. So oh they can't move, he's just crawling down the staircase. Now, if he bounded down the staircase quickly and didn't hold a handle and say, oh my god, he's so reckless, you could fall down and hurt himself out there. So there's nothing this guy can do to make these people happy, even the way he walks down the stairs of Air Force one.

48:28 Right, yeah, exactly. And of course you know they're just losing their minds. I mean, here it is. They're a mess in Maine. They knew this was coming, you know, And and the socialist democratic socialist movement has has commandeered that party. And then here it is with this new industry and all these potentials that are coming up. And of course you're writing about this and it'll be released hopefully later on today regarding the data centers, and maybe you can give us a summary of that. Deroy absolutely. Well. You know, the left has been attacking data. Centers and AI in general, and data centers in particular over the last probably yearish or so. And I think what this is basically is the new global warming, of the new so called climate change. You don't hear them talking about very much, so I think they're looking at this and thinking, if we attack that and shut that down, this will slow down the economy and hurt the America, which is what a.

49:21 Lot of left wants to do. So they've jumped on this new hobby horse, and they're having some victories, I must say. In Monterey Park, California, they had a vote on June second this year and they voted to have a permanent one or two years permanent ban on data centers. That passed eighty six to fourteen eighty six percent, yes, fourteen percent, no. Nothing Ever, passed this country by eighty six percent, so this is quite something. And one of the arguments they make is, oh my god, all that data centers are going to chew up all of our water. This is terrible, we'll all dehydrate. An organization called Unleashed Prosperity took a look at this and the fact is that the data centers do use per year seventeen point four billion gallons of water. That's a lot of water. Point four billion gallons of water.

50:02 Well, yep, you know, as they say, compared to what, well, compared to water melons. Watermelons to raise watermelons this country, we use fifty two billion gallons. That's three times more. If you play golf, you like golf courses, we use five hundred and thirty one billion gallons of water on golf courses. That's thirty one times more water than we use for data centers. And if you have corn with your dinner, you have ethanol in your car, which is based on a corn that uses three point nine trillion gallons of water. That's two hundred twenty five times more water than the data centers. And then the big hog. It's funny should say hog because it's really tenny benefits cows. But alfalfa hay. Alfalfa hay uses six point zero three trillion gallons of water. That's three hundred and forty six almost three hundred and fifty times more water than the data centers use. So yeah, data centers use a lot of water, but compared to all these other things we take for granted, hay, corn water in your lawn, golf courses, dolling pools, it uses a whole lot less. And I really think Unleashed Prosperity did a great job of I think completely debunking this oh my god, the water's going to vanish argument just by showing the comparison between what the data centers use and what we use for swimming pools, watermelons, almonds, way way, way less.

51:17 And I think that argument at this point has been completely demolished. Yeah, but here they go so unprepared to debate this, and in Monterey, like you said eighty six to fourteen, it's like, you fix the deal. I mean, you prejudice the information with the people and convince them to this level that they would basically shoot themselves in the foot. Now, remind people deroy why data centers. Why are they so significant in this current environment you know now today and going. Forward, well, data centers, I think a really good analogy is that data centers basically are the AI revolution, with steel mills worthy the industrial revolution. These are basically the factories that use data, analyze data, turn data into things we like. You know, when you if you have a cell phone, you look at pictures of your friends, your family, your vacation, your grandparents, whatever it is.

52:12 Those pictures don't sit inside your phone. Those pictures are sitting on data centers around the country, and all your phone does is connect to them so you can see them. If you go on Amazon and buy yourself some new shoes or a new camera, or a book or whatever, those are, all those transactions are happening on data centers all around the country. So if you use the internet at all, you engage in e commerce, you buy anything online, you're. Using data centers. So this is something is completely. Absolutely central to what we do these days in terms of how we use the Internet in our lives. And if we shut the data centers down, good luck finding a place to put your family photos and pictures of your friends. Good luck buying stuff online. Good luck dealing with things like you know, going on kayak to book flights or hotel rooms that sort of thing. All these things that we do online on the internet and involved data centers. And this is a positive thing. This is a good thing. And in this article I'm writing, which should be on Daily Signal within the next day or two, and elsewhere, I really tried the AI companies and the data center companies in particular. They are being hammered by politicians, by activists, by people who hate them, and their response is quieter than crickets. There's no response that they maybe think if they just keep quiet and hid under their desks, the boogeyman will go away. The boogeyman is sitting there with a monkey wrench ready to bash their heads in.

53:34 And these people like Bernie Sanders is talking about fifty percent nationalization of the AI companies. AOC and Bernie Sanders have introduced a federal moratorium on data centers. There's a group that tracks all these moratory around the country. There are one hundred and twenty seven of them in various communities across the US and forty different states, including eleven plate jurisdictions with permanent bands on data centers is very serious, and I guess these are basically a bunch of you know, tech nerd types who don't really understand that they're being that they're under fire, and they're not responding there. I mean literally, I've never seen an ad saying, hey, here's a good idea, here's why. This data center is going to make your life better.

54:16 You do see some ads for AI companies, but they're very jargony, kind of kind of like coder talk, like whatever people who do, and they talk to each other in these weird phrases that none of us understand. They desperately need get involved, get engaged in this discussion and talk in ways that regular people can understand as to what the promises of AI it's going to make our lives better. Yeah, there may be some impact on employment, but we have the same problem when we went from horse and buggies to cars, or we went from candles to light bulbs, and went from black white TVs to color TVs, what have you. And when silent movies went to talkies, a lot of people who had weird voices didn't get to work, unfortunately, but a whole lot of other people did get hired as that industry expanded. So you get out and make these arguments and engage. Right now, they're completely silent. I mean, I've been looking for the case for AI, I've been looking for the case for data centers.

55:08 I see literally zero. I mentioned this thing about the water. There's a good article or video done by John Stossel on YouTube, and a really good article in the Atlantic of all places, on how the data center attack on data centers is overblown. But other than those three things which have done by outsiders, I have yet to see any even one example of any communication from the data center companies as to why this is a good thing, why they should not be shut down. So they got to get involved in this or they're going to be strangled at CRIB. And this is deadly serious. They don't seem to understand what the risk is. The risk is severe, and they got to get get in on this national discussion because they're not, and if they don't, they're going to find themselves out of business, which would be really sad for them and very sad for the entire society.

55:52 You know, as you were laying this out, I was looking for the political hook, and you kind of went through it really quick, and you wrapped it into Bernie Sanders and AO. What it is is the government the confiscation of private property. They want to confiscate this deal. If they can confiscate the data centers, hello, communism, socialism, then they're happy with it. They want they're big. That's really the bottom line, right. Absolutely, and not just hey, you know, we'll take five percent off the top. You know, Bertie Sanders says he wants half. If they can get more than half, they'll take more than half. And in the meantime they're just in order to get that, they're just terrifying people. And you know, it would be one thing if they were terrifying people, but you have the AI companies, the data center company saying okay, here's why Bernie Centers is wrong.

56:36 Here's what AOC doesn't understand. But they're just getting beaten up like crazy from the left, mainly the left, some people on the right of their concerns and just zero zero, zero engagement. They're just I can't think of another industry that's sitting there basically getting raped, and they won't even blow the rape whistle. They won't even yell rape that sit there and just all right, I'll just sit back and you. Know, take this quietly. And that is going to wipe them out if they don't step up and make the case for the themselves. The case isn't going to make itself on its own. They need to get up and make it and they're not doing so, and that that is going to put them. I think it has them in great jeopardy right now. And they've got probably a couple of months to get involved in big trouble. Right you know. Deroi think if AOC and Bernie Sanders were at the founding of this country two hundred and fifty years ago, our country would have been dead.

57:21 Yep, absolutely think about that. And here they are now two hundred and fifty years later, and they're doing and they think they know better. I mean, they have no idea and forget about you know, the Constitution be damned, Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness be damned, and freedom for all be damned. Right Yeah, well, that's certainly andous tremendous risk aversion. I mean, if AOC and Bernie Sanders were in charge back then, we never would have gotten off Plymouth Rock. You know, the United States America be Plymouth Rock and maybe fifteen feet around it. That's as far as we would have gotten because oh, you know, you can't walk in that forest, you can't chop down that tree. It's too risky. So let's just city or see what happens. And they wouldn't have got anywhere. I mean certainly be no settlement to the other colonies, no settlement in the West, the Oklahoma land Rush wouldn't have happened. Those guys just be sitting somewhere in northeast eastern Massachusetts. That never would have gotten you know, even where Springfield is today exactly.

58:16 Well, I'm looking forward to the article that you said should be released this week on the Daily Signal. Really good stuff. Thank you so much for sharing you this. He's the Manhattan Basboxers contributor contributing editor at The American Spectator and also of course the Daily Signals, so check it out. To Roy Murdoch, Thank you to Roy. Take care you bet great talk to you. Thanks Bill. Have you written a book? Where do you have a manuscript ready and just need to find the right publisher. Christian Faith Publishing supports authors like yourself to bring their books to life and right now, we're offering you a free writer's guide designed to steer you towards book completion. Christian Faith Publishing evaluates each manuscript we receive. If your book earns approval, we take care of everything editing, designing, printing, promotion, and widespread online and in store distribution. Picture your book, greasing the shelves of specialty Christian bookstores, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and numerous other retail destinations. It's time to get that manuscript published and to work with a publisher who shares your values of integrity and honesty. You can get your book published, get your manuscript reviewed, and a free writer's guide today.

59:22 Eight hundred four to three nine one five eight eight, eight hundred four to three nine one five eight eight, eight hundred four to three nine one five eight eight. That's eight hundred four three nine fifteen eighty eight. Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live, Welcome morning in Aloha. I'm here, I've been in Malu white. That's why the dirt, you know, I have to fit the theme. And look at Debbie little did I know that you and I were going mad? No? Well, you know, are you out there to see you in person, right.

1:00:02 Exactly, we'd have a lot of fun here. But anyway, glad you could join us. The Debbie with now and is joining us now she's with the I voter Guide. Tell us about I voter Guide. Well, I voter Guide is your nationwide election resource. It's a website. If you go to ivoter guide dot com, you enter your address and you'll get your personalized ballot. Our lane, as I would say, is to research and evaluate the candidates on your ballot, to give personalized create personalized voter guides for every address in America, all fifty states. So go there before you vote in your primary and your general election this year. Well, because it's all about the consent of the government, right, and this is something that has been missing and why there's such a discussion about the Save Act, and you know, we a lot has been revealed, you know, I was thinking about this the other day, Debbie, you know, with you know, with COVID and what it how it pulled back the shroud. Oh yeah, everything that was American, you know, our healthcare system, corruption, yeah, institutions, everything's all exposed. And you sit in there going, you know, and you go to the voting so you know what this is what we created. We created this by trusting, not verifying, trusting the institutions to do right by us. Is that fair to say?

1:01:19 That is very fair to say. I would also frequently will say I voter guide exists so that the governed can give informed consent because we too often don't know what we're voting for, who we're voting for, what they stand for. So that's why we exist. Well clearly. I mean, here we are celebrating our two hundred and fiftieth birthday of our country, and you've got forty six percent of Americans that don't know American history. So sad. Yeah, So it's no question that we're so vulnerable. But yet here we have these Europeans coming here for the World Cup. God bless them. I mean, it's as if God decided, Okay, we're going to send you guys a lifeline, and we're going to send a bunch of Europeans that are not used to experiencing air conditioning and ice or BUCkies or.

1:02:05 Even friendliness or generosity. Right exactly. I mean, it's almost like as if Tolkville in the modern era, in this century, has come back to America to check us out and go back and report back to Europe, which is interesting because they're going to go back to Europe and say, you know, these are good people, and we've got people here in America going, no, we're a bunch of evil people. What a contrast. Hunh. Well, you know, their media is similar to our media in just telling the negative stories about Americas. So they hear about ice protests and riots and people with blue hair and nose rings that are protesting, and you know, the crime rates, and so they don't hear the good stories. But they got to see it for themselves.

1:02:46 Right, So they're taking their eyewitness experience of America back home, and you know, and I'm saying for everybody here in America, everybody else, Hey, take note. This is their impression. Like it or not. These people are saying, hey, look at I'd be happy to trade places with you. If you're that unhappy here, Hey get you. And some of them are. You know, I wanted to move here, and now they're trapsing around America and loving it. So you know, I'm not a soccer fan, Bill, I don't know if you are. So I wasn't like in on this when it first started happening. I also don't really live on X and Instagram, So somebody first told me about you know, have you seen those videos? I'm like, what videos? I challenge you to go look and I went to YouTube and found some compilations to see what they're saying. Because it's you and I talking about is one thing, but here it fright voices, their mouths, in their accents, and their sense of wonder at free refills and things like that just really makes you appreciate the things that we so take for granted.

1:03:47 Yeah, exactly, So you know, object lesson perhaps and maybe this might be an ignition for Americans, American citizens to come together and to really honor this great American idea and gift that God has given us. Debbie Well and yes, and you know, I think about in studying scripture, God wants us to remember when he works, when he's and he has worked in America. You know, like when the Israelites crossed the Jordan, he said, stack stones, so that when your children see those stones, they can say why are those here? And you can tell them the story, and that this is our opportunity now to tell that story, especially the timing with the two fiftieth.

1:04:27 Why are we here for two fifty Why. Is that special? You know, go back to to to Deutouville. It's hard to say his name and say what made us great, which is that America is good and we're founded on biblical principles and just understand that and research that it wasn't taught in our schools. There's many generations that didn't get the Civics and the history of the true story of America's founding and how God was so fundamental and so providential and why we're here. You know, Debbie and my travels because you know here I am. I'm I'm on the island of Hawaii, lucky me, you know, traveling from Florida across the country, and it was such a such a blessing because you know, I'm observing overall and I'm thinking, you know, yes, the media want is to believe that Americans are so evil and mean spirit and everything. And I got to tell you, going through the airports and everything like that, I you know, I was impressed. I mean, people were helping people, they were talking with people. You know, the generosity, that spirit, that American spirit that goes under reported that you know, the mainstream media doesn't want to report on it because they want this aggression and this aggravation to continue, because that's what makes headlines. But by and large, Americans can be proud that, hey, we got a great country and for the most part, for the most part, we're very generous and very kind to others.

1:05:51 Oh that's what I've experienced. I've traveled to forty eight of the fifty States, and you know, they're all very unique and very different, but the American spirit is evident where you go. The geography may be different, the you know, the beauty is different, but still in God's creation, but the people are still freedom loving. You know, would would help anybody. I mean, we're the most generous nation in the world when it comes to supporting you know, when there's a crisis across across the world, and that if you come to America you will see that. I found it interesting and one of the European travelers said, you know, he used to think it was bad because Americans never leave the States. He says, But now that I've been to the States, you don't need to leave the States. There are so many variety of different things that are all across you know, from Hawaii to Alaska, to the Maine to Texas to Florida. It's all so varied and different that you know, many of us don't leave. I would encourage you to check out the rest of the world.

1:06:43 It is gorgeous and beautiful and their own cultures. It's different. Well, it's as if America. You know, it's God. God has turned America inside out before America needed to be here and send missionaries out to take the gospel message. And what's happening, you know, whether it's the World Cup or other things. People coming here to this country. They're coming here and God has reversed the mission field, so to speak. Do you think I think there's an element of that, you know, the spiritual mission. We still need that flame to fan. We need some spiritual revival to happen here, some awakening, and there are glimpses that. That is happening. But just appreciating America for what it is and the freedoms that we have to speak to travel to to do what we want to do. Just the limited government, the freedom to have free enterprise and BUCkies and Costco and all of those things that you don't see when you go to Europe is it's special and we don't appreciate it as much as we should.

1:07:44 You're exactly right, because you think of the industry as you say, whether it's it is buck Easier, Cosco, Amazon, and all these new ideas that continue to flourish. And here we have trillions of dollars that are coming into this country right now. And behind that trillions of dollars is labor. It's ideas that can flourish, which we've done time and time again in this country like no other country. Debbie, Well, there's so much innovation in America. You know, they talk about air conditioning now and they got the heat wave in France. Air Conditioning was invented in America. Elevators were invented in America. Jet engines are I mean, so many things that the world appreciates really came from the freedom of innovation that the American system encourages and causes to flourish. So that's part of what we should be proud of, is you know, so much of that that the rest of the world appreciates came from here.

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1:14:28 We get the government we have chosen, and if you're not participating, you're giving consent for people who don't share your values, who will show up and elect people that represent their values. Well. And the fact of the matter is is that we have ballot stuffing that's taking place a lot of things that you say, well, that's illegal, that's not fair. Yes, we get that, but for some reason, we're having a challenge as a country. We're having a challenge and controlling that. And it reminds me, Debbie that you know, when you read the Bible, there's that story about you know, the profit and how they're there and they're having some porridge and somebody goes and grabs some weeds out, you know, one of the helpers, and it's poison and and the profits it says, oh, there's death in this porridge, there's death in this in this zoop and he says hey, go get me, get me some good stuff. Get me, get me the the legitimate, healthy, h ingredients that we can put in there. And by putting the healthy ingredients, that overcomes the poison. And it's almost like I think we can learn from that, is that we need to put good to cover the bad in such numbers because what we have seen happening, you know, the level of corruption that is taking place, that is invalidating the consent of the government. Because when our votes are canceled out by illegal votes, you know, that's not that's not the American spirit. And I get that that most Americans are

1:15:58 fair minded to say, well, no, this is this is fair. This is the way you do things. It's the way you're supposed to do things. But it's the way things are not being done right. Well and in some areas, and it depends on who rules in those cities in those states, because they put in laws that you know, makes it legal for them to chase ballots and stuff ballots and show up and vote in fact, in California without in fact, it's illegal to show a voter ID in California. So it's like putting things, in my viewpoint, that facilitate nefarious purposes, facilitate cheating, cheating or whatever, and so, but that happened because of the people that got elected that put those laws in place. That is not the law across the entire nation. I mean, that's why the Save Act is being fought for and at the federal level so that it will make a federal law for all of that. But it gets down to who gets elected in your cities, in your schools, in your state governments, in the federal government. And we need to be wise in electing for all of those offices.

1:16:54 And you know, this is a time and period, I mean for the most part, you know, in our lifetimes to be of course, you've been fighting, you know, with Ivoter Guide. You've seen this coming around the mountain for a long time, and this is what inspired you said, look at, you know, we've got to be a part of the solution, not part of the problem. And God bless you in the organization that you've built to do this. And we just have to continue to be the Paul Reveres, the modern day Paul Revers of saying, look at, there's danger around the bend here, and we have got to wake up. I mean again, I think COVID was a blessing in as much as that it opened our eyes to some of this corruption. But you know, parents have to understand. Look at we've kind of ignored it, you know, for a long time, our kids. You know, we want to blame education, say, well, it's education's pall. Yeah, in part it is. But really education begins at the home, you know. And this is why, like even in the Bible, where the you know, God talks about what the Jews referred to as the shma three times a day. You know, God is one, and how you're supposed to continue to talk to your you know, talk about God, talk about you know, the blessings of God to your children when you're coming, you're going, when you're lying down, when you're at dinner, and that sort of thing. And that narrative somehow has been canceled, you know, because of the information age in which we live in. And you know, I see families even on you know, that are on vacation here in the island, and I see people at dinner and everybody's got a phone in their hand. They're not even talking at the dinner table. It's silly, huh.

1:18:22 Well, and we've proxied really the education of our children to the school system, and we've seen what's happened in the school system. We've proxied the spiritual training of our kids to pastors and youth pastors who may not even have a biblical worldview. If you look at some of George Barnes's research, we the responsibility really rests with us as parents, us with citizens to know and to do to be We're supposed to be sultan light. We're not supposed to let somebody else be the salt light. We're supposed to do it ourselves. So watching shows like yours researching what Americans founding was about, I would say go back and watch School House Rock. That was fabulous when I was going to school to learn some basic civics and and just be a good role model for your kids and your grandkids of what we're supposed to do to be good citizens in America.

1:19:06 You know, it's interesting you bring up a good point here. And I was talking with George Barney here recently and we were talking. We always talk about a biblical worldview. He and I have been connected the hip ever since I graduated from Bible College, and God had led me he said, look at this is it. You know, once you're back beyond the microphone and focus on a biblical worldview, focus on the truth of God, and here it is. You know, it connects me with George. And here George is already you know, a decade plus down the road of biblical worldview. And this was somewhat new to me when I got out of Bible College in the early two thousands, which was amazing, and I felt I was really upset with myself to say, how did I miss this? But we were talking specifically about youth pastors, and the youth pastors that are active today it's less than ten percent hold to a biblical worldview and hire and send their children, you know, to these young people that are not even holding to biblical principles.

1:20:03 Well, and it convicted me. I mean, senior pastors don't have that much higher a percentage, but youth pastors, it's really depressing in a way. And you know a lot of times churches it'll be some interim lay person who's leading the kids. So it convicted me that I should have done a better job. I will, you know, talk to my kids, for my grandkids about doing better. But we each need to have the personal responsibility to number one, make sure we have a biblical world view and that we're studying God's word and we're discipling ourselves through whatever you know in depth Bible study God leads us to. But to teach that to our kids, to teach history to our kids. That's why homeschooling is growing because more people are waking up to their eyes were opened in COVID. You are spot on that it was. It's the silver lining of COVID was that parents saw what was going on.

1:20:48 And God has really put a target on the back of some of the liberal policies, the Dei, the CRTs and woke in the church up. Well, we're being called to rise up. We have got to rise up again. Whin's this if we're going to save this nation? I mean, hey, look at God only knows. I mean, it's his, it's his time, it's his world, and we know that certain things are to happen. They're being revealed to us on a daily basis. We keep an eye on what's going on in the Middle East. I always tell people, you know, you look at Israel, what's going on with Israel? That's God's our to hand. But you know, getting back to America and where we are right now, it's still a powerful force, by God's grace and mercy. And you know, I love that you and I felt the same way. I told people, look at this time, that this season that we're in, you know, review our founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and you talk about a biblical worldview, and you start seeing the hand of God and how this has enveloped, how our founding fathers. You know, we're able to you know, by God's grace and mercy and by I believe the revelation of the Holy Spirit gave us such a powerful outline and manifesto.

1:21:57 Right, yeah, no, And I would show you in this year of the two fiftieth to read the Declaration, to read the Constitution, To go find some books by David Barton or Michael Medvid that talk about the story of America and how God was foundational of that, maybe the Revolution by Eric Matexas. Go see Young Washington, find those sources, share them with your kids and your grandkids. I saw Young Washington this weekend and took my twenty year old and he's like, that was really pretty good and I said, Nathan, and it was true. He says, yeah, So just they need to see the counter to what they've learned in the public school and to shed that light because you know, I would say encouraging as well. A lot of people don't vote because they say it's fixed or my one vote won't count. But we know God works through a remnant, He works through a small number of people, So don't neglect your responsibility. You might be that one vote that carries an election and makes the difference.

1:22:50 And how many stories have you heard, whether it's been a one vote or maybe a handful of votes that have made the difference. Right, Yep, it's happened. It's dozens and dozens of time in every election. That especially when you go down ballot and look at some of those local races, school board races that it's you know, five, six, ten, you know fifty. When we covered school board races for the very first time, the average winning margin was four hundred, no nine hundred votes, and in a third of cases it was less than four hundred. A lot of us go to churches that could could make the difference in those school board races. Well, Debbi is always an honor to have you on with us. Thank you so much, God bless you for all the great work you do. Debbie what now the president of I voter Guide, a division of the American Family Association Action. Debbie remind everybody the website they can go to for more information.

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1:27:58 Great to see him be with you. Yeah, well, great to have you here. So I mentioned Malia White because I'm here in Lehina, which we know not too long ago, and they're still recovering. It's heartbreaking for me. My daughter, my grandchildren are here and it's heartbreaking to see, you know, what's happened to this beautiful part of this island. Yeah, I mean this is one of the side of you know what we talk about, these mass conflagration events, and it's a reminder, right that these events can happen anywhere where you combine the drought conditions, wind effects and really whatever is the ignition point, and that's why that's why we're here to talk about this bill.

1:28:41 Right, And Karen, you know, as I was flying out, you know, I'm seeing all kinds of fire, wildfires breaking out in the mainland of America as well. Right, we are seeing a well above active season so far. I think with the number of fires that are burning, we're over twenty eight percent above the ten year average and the eight burn over thirty three percent average. With major wildfires and a lot of areas across the West. Well, as Ian said, these wildfire risks are escalating as development expands into fire prone areas. Environmental conditions make fires easier to ignite, faster to spread, and more destructive. And Karen, according to twenty twenty five Fatality Report, nearly two point six million homes in the Western United States face moderate or higher wildfire risk with it and estimated combined reconstruction costs of one point three trillion. This comes as a very loud and clear warning, right, doctor Jimonco.

1:29:39 Yeah, that's exactly right. We've got rising costs. I'll let Karen talk about the things you can you know, we can look for in our insurance. But yeah, if we look back, especially in the post COVID environment, we've seen inflation really drive up the entire building materials chain as well as the labor market. And I'll let Karen talk a little bit. It's about some of the insurance implications have come with that. Yeah, please can learn about what we can do to prevent under insurance. Ryan, Yeah, too often we overestimate our preparedness for these types of events when they happen so suddenly. I think we've seen over eighteen thousand structures just in the last year with the Eaton and Palisates fire in California and of course the Mali fire, and we've seen the Colorado Marshall Fire, a lot of these big events. With inflation, recently, we have seen the cost to rebuild surge. I think it's forty seven percent higher for both building materials and labor since January of twenty twenty. And that puts a lot of pressure on do you have enough in your policy so that annual insurance check up go over your policy limits and coverage at minimal annually. Make sure the policy reflect your square footage, the materials of your home.

1:30:49 Talk about the optional features like extended replacement cost coverage, organs and law coverage and additional living expense coverage. All of those can boost the amount of financial and it's available in your rebuild. But details also matter. Know what your policy covers. Is it a replacement cost policy that pays to replace all your items at current market price? Or is it an actual cash value policy that may take depreciation into account and pays less for those aged items exactly done home improvements, make sure those are reflected as well. It comes down to that conversation with your company or your agent. Yeah, you don't know until you know. Sadly, and in talking with the people here in a Lahina, in some cases, sadly, Karen, people who have had these homes for generations and they didn't keep up with their policies, and all of a sudden, they find out that their policies cannot rebuild their homes and they're having to sadly sell their property.

1:31:45 And we see that so often, and that is a perfect example of why you want to make sure you maintain coverage. We will see also those that have retired and they pay off that mortgage and they don't feel that it's needed to keep that policy in place. But that is a very unfortunate example of you want to maintain that financial safety. That insurance really is your primary recovery resource. You know, there may be federal disaster grants, but they're never going to be enough to fully rebuild and often that takes additional time and what you can recover, and so insurance is your best resource financially, and not just for those that own a home. You know, if you are a renter or if you own a condo, renters can lose everything in a fire just like home owner, So you want to look at you know, shop around is very easy to bundle your insurance including renters or home owners, with your auto policy and it makes for a very more affordable rate when you do that. And so these are important conversations to have, and you want to do it before the event happens.

1:32:46 That's the key, right exactly. And you know, as they say, it takes a village, right. I mean, also part of this approach holistically is how communities can come together and take collective action, right. So that's how you get the best fighting chance. And you can start again, start with your own home and start doing some of those the things that we could talk about about how to make your home ready for the next fire. But when you do it with your neighbors, your whole block, your whole neighborhood, You've not only changed your one piece of that puzzle, You've changed the entire landscape. You've turned your neighborhood into something that is a defense system against that fire. It's going to make fire fighting efforts much more effective. It's going to slow fire progress, and in even the best case scenario, you might even turn your neighborhood it will act more like a fire break, yes, and it's going to really change outcomes in mass so this is one thing. Start start with your own home, but start talking to your neighbors. Start talking with your neighborhood and think about how you start putting this whole puzzle system together. And I think that will show that we can do this. When we do it all together, we can make big difference.

1:34:01 Well, doctor Jamonco, I think you know, anecdotally, people are surprised at how logical, common sensical, and at the same time even how easy some of these things to do that really fortify your homes. Right, yeah, so Bill, you know, you think about the things we've talked about over the years on this show. Is it comes to things like wind it there's a lot of structural elements what you have to do well. Wildfire is a bit different. There's a lot of actions you can take your cell that generally do make a lot of sense. Right the first five foot of landscaping around your home, that's that critical area where embers pile up. So get things that burn out of that area. Get those fence gates that are combustible, replace it with metal.

1:34:44 Things like protecting your vents with eighth inch mesh screen to make sure embers can't get inside and ignite things from the inside out. So these are if we think about, hey, I got a lot of embers attacking my home and I want to break the chain of fire coming at my house, you start to make a lot of sense, right. It's like, I want to remove all those weakest links and if I put that system together, my home's going to have a really good fighting chance. And we just hit the idea, if you do it, your neighbors, do it, your whole neighborhood does it. You have changed the entire outcome for a whole community. Yeah, you fortified yourself. And also talk about curbapill. Yeah, so I. Think you know, landscape is such a huge deal in becoming wildfire ready or prepared for the fire, because it is it brings that chain of fire to our home or it breaks it. Right, So first five feet get the things that can burn out of it. After that you're talking about spacing those vegetation elements and man, people have come up with some beautiful ideas about how to do this. I love personally, like the hard escapes where you use a lot of pavers and pea gravel to create that trail. Look that to me really appeals. I know some people might not like that, but I would say, look out there. You'll see homes that have these these landscape mitigation actions done and you don't even rea. You're just sitting there thinking, hey, these are really cool. I want to do that. I think it looks great. I'm just like everybody else, right, I love landscaping. That's one of my big hobbies around my house, and I'm always looking for ideas, so check them out. Landscape architects can

1:36:15 have ideas your landscaper if you'd say, hey, I've saved up the money, I want to have somebody else do this, or you're just looking for ideas of how to do it yourself. So lots of options out there, and this stuff plays a really big role in breaking that chain of fire exactly. Doctor Ian Giamonco is a Managing director of Atmospheric Science Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety, and Karen Collins the property insurance and natural disaster expert. Karen, As we wrap things up, remind everybody why it's so important to you know, to speak with your agents, to get the right council in preparation. Preparation is is so key in all this right.

1:36:55 You don't want to be caught surprised after the event has happened. So that conversation beforehand is so critical. And it's not just you know, for fire, go over your current coverage, but also we have a super El Nino forecaster for this year that maybe record breaking. We've got an active Pacific ring of fire with seismic activity and earthquakes. Talk about what other coverage gaps you might have. You might need a flood insurance policy or an earthquake insurance policy, which are usually separate from your main policy. These are the conversations you want to be proactive about. Don't set it and forget it and assume and then leave yourself exposed and do a home inventory also to create a record of what you have, because that's the simple step in the aftermath should something happen.

1:37:38 Where can our viewers go for more information, Karen for all. The financial tips, you know, inventory steps, and the conversation I have, go to www dot APCI dot org slash wildfire and we've got some links to some other great websites, including a my Resilient Home website that'll give you some great testimonials and pictures. If you're looking for some extra creative inspiration on how to go about everything that we've talked about today. Well, Karen Collins, property insurance and natural disaster expert, and doctor I Jimonco have been our guest. He's Managing director of Atmospheric Science, Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety. Thank you both appreciate the information. Take care absolutely, Thanks Bill.

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1:42:45 I know, I appreciate your compassion. It's just using you know here, I'll tell you the compassion we have though right now is for the American voter on the border bill that you know, Trump has led the way on this, He's kept the focus on it, and you know, this is what the American people have been waiting for, and we've got to get it beyond beyond an executive voter because you know what the Democrats are going to do, which is what they always do. They unwind all the good and positive things that the previous administration effects. Yeah, well, and they don't really have to do anything because if this so, a bill's going through, This is going through to the Judiciary Committee this week for mark up.

1:43:27 I believe it's ninety seven to seventy three HR. Ninety seven to seventy three. Now markup. This is a term in Congress that means a bill text comes before the committee. Judiciary Committee is the one that does immigration, and they basically make it say whatever they want to say there. So whatever the bill originally says is sort of lucy goosey until the Judiciary Committee marks it up. So they're changing it. So what we really need is for them to make it tough as possible because unless they act, unless we can get it through the Senate and the President to sign it, then any future administration can go back to doing what Biden did because the law is so muddy, it's so ancient, it's it's there's all these loopholes that have developed over time. This is a bill that would close the loopholes. For example, UH, the the a lot of the people who came in, some of the millions who came in under Biden were because of of the the misuse of of the what is it called probation UH parole parole authority, in which which was designed to let one person at a time in as an exception. You know you need an operation, mister, someone from South America, you can come in and get your operation, and here's the authority. Instead Biden used it to bring whole groups of hundreds of thousands of people in. It's oh,

1:45:00 you're from you're from Venezuela. Your country's had a tough time recently, come on in. And so that's one thing. And also asylum reform, so asylum is something that Trump's just shut down completely because Biden was using it. If the way he was interpreting it. If if if someone could get one foot on us soil and they said, oh, I want asylum, and then you got put into the queue of for to. Have a hearing. Well, the hearing might be in ten years, yeah. Said how many how many kids? How many kids could you develop in ten years? Jim, Oh my gosh, yeah.

1:45:43 On top everything else. By the way, yes, right, exactly right. But you can you can, you can disappear in the country, which is what most of it because it's complete fraud. I mean, there are true asylum cases. The problem is is that Trump's him backed into a corner because he does and have these laws that would reform it to make it better. So he has to just shut it down to keep the abuses out. Won't Congress help him. It's like it's like they're finally waking up that oh they have a job to do too, Right, it's the Congress. Well, the constitution makes Congress responsible for immigration policy, and the president only does it because with the authority the Congress gives it. And if the laws are two like I say, Lucy Goosey decades old, and there you can drive holes and you can drive trucks.

1:46:42 Through the holes in the law. Well, then you get a president who doesn't really care to secure the borders and millions of people come. So Congress, this is the number one thing they have to accomplish this year, and it's coming up to this this week in the Judiciary Committee. They're going to mark it up and when they do that, they'll send it on to the to the floor, and the Speaker says he'll schedule a vote. So that's great. Presumably Republicans can get their act together to vote for this thing, which every Republican voter wants and half the Democratic voters want right the border. And yet here's one thing, one more thing I want to point out. Well, this is important that the apparently two versions of the bill are going to be before the Judiciary Committee. One will have you verify in it mandatory everify, and one won't.

1:47:40 Well it's why because some business owners are leaning on Republicans, No, we don't want to verify. It's controversial. An article in Politico states that some Republicans are feeling the heat from business to not bring in e verify. So how does it make sense to put to fix the border but then allow millions of jobs to stay available to illegal immigrants. It's like you can't build a wall high enough to keep out people who are gonna have easy jobs when they get in right, and these newcomers, I'm not criticizing their motives as individuals, although they are breaking the law.

1:48:23 But when i'm the effect on American. Workers of every nationality, every ethnicity, people who were legally here, they get undercut, even though exactly illegally here get undercut by the newest way, ridiculous. It all contributes to the dragon affordability, Jim, it does. There's been a lot of work on this. And notice that the Wall Street Journal was in their editorial page was denying this effect. But it's like, Okay, Biden brings in I don't know, six or eight million people or whatever it was in a four year period, and housing was already a few million units short of being enough exactly, and we're building slower than ever because of the lag after COVID, because of regulation, all these factors were building inflation well, inflation. So what happens is the housing supply shortage gets much much worse and price is surge, which means that people who are here legally, people who are born in this country, people who've been come here legally, now they're getting squeezed because everyone wants the same housing.

1:49:39 Right supply demand exactly. It seems so obvious and it is obvious, but people who don't want to see it don't see it. Right. You only have You can only hear something when you have ears to hear and see something when you have eyes to see. Right. Well, Donald Trump think God has seen the problem. He's done everything he could on behalf of the American people because, like you say, it's an important job, critical job for Congress to do. It's also critical to the president, whose number one job is national security. This is clearly a national security issue when you let millions of illegal immigrants come in, especially they have not been vetted everything. I mean, this has just been one big mess that's had an impact on our economy, on law enforcement, you know, everything on down That is a problem that the American people told Donald Trump by mandate, we need somebody to fix it.

1:50:40 Will you fix it for us? And that's what he's been in the process of, you know, attempting to do with no help from the Democrats. Right, Well, but he can only do that while he's in office, right, Yes, so after after he's gone, they we get who knows, Gavin Newsom, could be Jay Events, but it could be Gavin Newsom, it could be who knows, it could be AOC. We don't know who the next president is going to be, but we do know that if they don't have a law forcing them continue transporter policies where it's just a matter of time till we get Biden two point zero. Yeah, well there's no Yeah, there's no doubt they'll double down.

1:51:21 I mean, after all, Joe Biden doubled down in what Brock Obama had done. Well, yeah, well Obama at least did deport people. He did, he made an attempt. Now he undercut the law in other ways, but he was deporting people. But Biden just just couldn't be bothered to deport people, and and so and then he waived all these people in by the millions. Yes, exactly, There's really been nothing like it in American history. Uh. And and people who are trying to get that first job and out of college or out of high school, people who just graduated from a trade school, they're trying to get that first job and they find out, oh, well, there's all these workers. They work so hard, they are so cheap. Yeah, desperate people who will will take any wage, work under any working conditions, and people who are here legitimately don't have a chance. How can you eat against someone who will always work for a quarter less.

1:52:28 Yeah, and maybe not even be properly licensed and certified, right. Right, well, yeah, that's right. A lot of the people who will come and work at your house, they don't have the insurance that the Americans have to have, right, the insurance in case someone gets injured on the job, the license from the county, all these things. And so you know, as a society, we really have to decide what we stand for. Are we just wanting to save the last dollar? Because society pays pays when we overthrow the rule of law by just closing our eyes to the legal status of people.

1:53:08 And uh, you know, we're being very selfish. You know if we hire, if you hire someone for ten dollars an hour to work on your house, nobody can live on ten dollars an hour, so clearly right, yeah, So the state or the or the federal government has to step in. Uh, because of that poverty. They have a legal they have a child born in the US that's a citizen. Therefore they're qualified for all kinds of programs, and so well, we. Said, we say the government has to step in. It's we the taxpayer has to step in. We the taxpayer the ones that continue to pay the bill. Jim, as we wrap things up here, tell people what they need to do right now because we need to keep the pressure on Congress to follow up and make sure this passes bill.

1:53:49 Everyone watching this needs to go to NumbersUSA dot org. NumbersUSA dot org right now and sign up. If you haven't signed up, it's just give a little information. It's free, and then you can go to this board made just for you in which you can say, oh, I'll send my member of Congress, I'll send my senator this message and get gentual voice heard. If we if people back home in the districts don't make their voice heard, then Congress will only listen to the lobbyist from Busically, the lobbyists from the left wing people in there. Our side only.

1:54:29 Has a few lobbyists in Washington. We're not we don't have the money that the people supported by business have exactly. We're out numbered, we're out spent. Only the only thing that can square it up are voters. And how and if the voters don't yell and scream at Congress in a nice, polite way, how are how is Congress to even know how the American people feel? How will they know how their voters feel? You got to make so go to numbers USA dot org and sign up, or if you already have a membership, just start sending those stuff. Send them all. Let's get them. Eat on Congress and make.

1:55:09 The phone calls. You're talking maybe five ten minutes of efforts. I mean, Numbers USA has done all the heavy lifting for you. Just follow, you know, follow the instructions right there and make sure your voice is heard. It is important that Congress hear from you. Jim Rob, the Vice president, Yes, this is the week to do it, amen. Jim Rob, the vice president of operations for Numbers USA. Thank you, Jim, take care, thank you, thank you. Bill. We call ourselves asap Travel for one reason we can help you book a ticket asap. For those of you that don't know, that means as soon as possible. That means no wait time. You get through right away, no searching online. Our specialty is the lowest available fairs on the big name airlines. You know them, we can't tell you their names. You can fly domestically or internationally and save more money than you could if you call the airlines directly. Our proprietary software goes underneath the hood of the major airline booking systems and finds you the best rates available.

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