July 24, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 07 24 26

The Bill Martinez Show 07 24 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 07 24 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, okay, us do an Ill Martinez Live a program

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about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and

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our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well six minutes after the top of the hour. Right now,

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Bill Martinez here, and we've got Bill Walton, the Common

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Sence CEO, joining us, a host of the Bill Walton Show.

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That makes sense. Hey Bill, good morning to you.

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How are you good morning? I'm great, great, well great, Well.

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We got the days after now the World Cup is over,

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a lot of Europeans came and said, wow, we love

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this country. Air conditioning and BUCkies and in and out

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burgers and all the wonderful things. And even they're just

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natural response of saying, well, these people lie to us.

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We thought America was a terrible country and we're finding

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out different.

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Well, I think it sparked a movement. I know it

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did in Europe.

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Now people are the people as opposed elites are now

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demanding air conditioning and and that's that's that's something that's

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a product of the World Cup. And of course, since

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they've got all this green energy, wind and solar, they

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can't really provide it reliably. So you know, European elites

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have really put themselves in a box.

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It's quite quite bad.

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Well, I've often said that we live in an era

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of contrast, lots of contrasts right now, and you know

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whether it's good and evil, you know, air conditioning, no

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air conditioning, ice no ice, whatever, And it's it's clear,

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and it's like, okay, what are we going to do

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about this contrast? You just continue to you know, put

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your head in this end and just go, well, you know,

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it's the way it is. It's just the way it

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always will be. So I'm not going to fight it,

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or am I Am I going to do something about it?

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I mean, whether it's you know, whether or not we

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should have some common sense voting laws or or just

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go along with the same voting laws that have been

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there because you know, it was I thought it was

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quite interesting that the one senator from from Michigan who

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said that, you know, at least I Bonica said that,

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you know, if Trump was to pass the Save Act,

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that Democrats would never get elected. That's quite telling. You

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know what does that mean?

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Well, it means that people are figuring out what you know,

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But wouldn't it be delicious if in Europe the elites

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were overthrown the whole Brussels consensus, the EU, you know,

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micromanagement to talitarian state. If that were if the if

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the thing that brought it down was the demand for

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air conditioning after they finally saw how Americans, even the

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poorest Americans actually live.

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Right, Yeah, And I think that this is uh again,

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this is the contrast that they're seeing and it could

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be a possibility. And it's also why you have this

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outside agency, you know, going after Trump. I mean, you know, historically,

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you look at what happens with regime change, either you know,

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somebody is assassinated or something you know other you know, otherwise,

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this you know, tragically occurs that sets things in motion

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for a regime change. And they've already tried to assassinate

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Donald Trump several times, so you know that, you know,

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Donald Trump is getting a lot of flak because he's

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over the target. And these you know, these one world

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government types, these elites, they're not happy with this. They

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don't they don't like the exposure.

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Well it's just if you think about what they had

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going they were on you know, I don't know, gravy

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train is putting them mildly. I mean, Elon Musk discovered

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with Doeje was the significant percentages of the federal budget

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never left town. And he put the estimate. I've got

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to do some more research on it, but I think

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he said it's thirty He thought thirty percent of the

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federal dollars went into the pockets of consultants and the

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NGOs that never really spent the money out of the

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country on their on the professed mission that they had

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in their name.

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And so the graft.

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That's going on, the greed that's going on, you know,

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it's a little you know, we've got Somolians taking out,

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you know, all that money out of what is it,

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the the children's learning centers. I can't remember exactly what that.

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That's just one of many.

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Well it's one of many. And that's going on at the.

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Federal level, at the state level, and you know, god knows,

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our big cities are completely corrupted, and so taxpayers it

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looks like about a third of what they pay in

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is going going directly to Democrat or Democrat affiliates. And

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and of course you know they've got the federal budget rigs,

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so a lot of what they do, they're politicking, et cetera,

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is paid for with federal dollars. And I hope people

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are waking up to that. I mean, I'm certainly you know,

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telling everybody who will listen.

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And you and me both we've been, you know, shouting

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from the timbers in the show is that, you know,

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the politicians themselves are getting their big you know, he says,

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thirty percent. Well, how much Our question is how much

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goes to the reelection campaigns of these Democratic politicians? And

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I hear it. You know, people go, well, Bill, that's

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both sides. I don't care if it's both sides or not.

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It shouldn't happen.

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It's not both sides. It's not both sides.

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The Teachers Union National Education Association ninety percent of the

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dues that teachers pay into that go to.

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Politicking, right.

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And you know, I rose on an airplane ride back

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from back in my investment banking days from Washington to

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I think I was in Chicago then, and I sat

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next to a guy in first class who asking what

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he was doing, he said, well, I'm coming in for

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the NEA, you know, monthly meeting. And I said, well,

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tell me about that, because he didn't know who I was.

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And I said, he said, well, you know, we have

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operatives in every single state, political operatives, and we want

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to make we coordinate every month on what our line

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of actions ought to be. And I said, how many

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operatives do you have? He said, well, right now, we

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only have two or three in Wisconsin. That's where he

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was going. We hope to add ten or fifteen in

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the next year or two.

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Now.

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That was twenty years ago, and it's only gotten worse.

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And so, you know, the look beneath the hood, it's

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pretty ugly.

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When you think about all that money. I mean, and

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you mentioned Doze and Elon Musk, you know, initially in

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a knee jerk type of response that I could find

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easily a trillion dollars in fraud, right, and they all

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but tard and feathered feather. I mean, he got up to,

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you know, close to two hundred billion, right, but go ahead.

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Well, I just wonder why he stopped.

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And I think the reason he stopped is the same

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reason President Trump was under threat of assassination every single day.

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At a certain point, what what what Elan was uncovering

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was so ugly that I think he felt like, I'm

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making myself a personal target here, and I've got other

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things I want to do with this life besides getting

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killed by a deep state that realizes we've uncovered the

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extent of their crimes. So yeah, I'm now I'm I'm speculating,

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But well that's what.

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We get to do, right, Well, yeah, because I think

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common sense begs that you exercise some critical thinking here.

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It's like Donald Trump or Donald Trump says, Okay, I'm

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gonna do with you know what I've been elected to do.

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What you know, the law says, I'm supposed to release

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all the information on the JFK files. All right, he

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releases about fifty percent and then suddenly hits the wall.

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Well what happened? Okay, it doesn't take a whole lot

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of thinking to consider that maybe he was threatened, maybe

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his family's threatened to such a degree figures, Okay, it's

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been hitting all these decades. What difference does it make?

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But see, all this is the root of the problem,

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Bill is, because we're not dealing with the truth. On

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so many levels, we've been bamboozled, we've been lied to,

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and these elites have been operating in that environment, getting

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away literally with murder.

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Well I so agree.

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I've done a few essays on beginning you think the

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theme of my show is what I call the airless Age,

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and that you don't really know anything. We don't know

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anything for sure anymore. I mean, we can't you know,

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what we see on the internet half of its AI generated.

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What we hear from the news outlets. We know that's

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agenda driven and it's not of both sides at now issue.

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But we you know, you look, and you know you

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look at our intelligence agencies and the way we're.

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Handling things in Iran.

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If I'm Donald Trump, I'm wondering, I'm looking at my left,

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I'm looking at my right. I don't know who's on

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my side and who's giving us the proper information. And

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it's getting worse, and so you know, I'm beginning to

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think what we need to do is maybe, you know,

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just take care of our own things, which is which

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Elon Musk decided to do.

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We'd rather go to the Mars and build.

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Data centers and outer space than deal with Washington. That

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tells you the extent of the problem.

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Bill, I guess, you know, put a put.

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A wrap on, you know what we've been talking about here,

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and then I want to talk about Mitch McConnell, which is,

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I don't know, our country seems to be, you know,

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locked into this weekend at Bernie's. Whether we're talking about

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a president, uh, you know, government officials. It's amazing. But anyway,

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just to wrap up where we are right now again,

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I think the bottom line here and I don't and

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you're right, I think a lot of people are saying, hey,

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look at I'm going to stick to my own knitting.

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You know, this is working for me right now if

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I take care of my own business, and you know,

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why should I risk my family or my own life

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in the process, because these elites are doing it. And

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God blessed Donald Trump that he's on the front line

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of all this.

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Right right well, and the personal courage he's expressed exhibited.

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You know, I'll give him a few monuments.

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You know, that monstrosity he's building that arc fifty feet

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all over Arlington National Cemetery.

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I don't like that.

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But on the other hand, he's doing a lot of

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other things, right, so we'll I guess we'll give him

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a couple of those things. Yeah, it's a dangerous time.

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You can't get people to run for office who I think.

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Are the right people who should run.

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I mean it's just A they're doing so well in

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the private sector, making more money, and b when they

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get in. You know, you show up as a congressman

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in DC and all of a sudden you're just enveloped

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by the swamp and you get a you've got to

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hire staffers, and the staffers are the same old, same old.

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You know, the head of the party, cover the head,

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you know, the Speaker of the House invite you into

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his office and said, we really think you're a good guy,

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and we want to help you out, and we've got

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a pack fund that can help you get re elected.

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But you know, I've got things I want to get

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done and we expect you to go along. So you know,

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the ability to make change here in this DC mall

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that I live. I'm out in Virginia. I'm technically not

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in it, but it feels the same.

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You're you're close enough, you're close enough to it's emanating.

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It's emanating out this window.

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Right exactly. Well, you know, and I've often told people

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as I've spoken with the you know, elected officials, and

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they say, Bill, they tell me right away, my number

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one job is to get re elected, right, number one

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job forget about people half.

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Their time, more than half fifty six percent of their time,

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it's raising money, doing all the things to.

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Get re elected.

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So that's you tell you everything, you know, let's talk

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about and this has been exposed, you know, gosh, I

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think at least ten years ago. And that is how

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elected officials have been captured by the communist Chinese, whether

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it's the Biden family, whether it's the Clinton's, on and on,

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there's been exposed, as Peter Schweitzer, you know, Miranda Devine.

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I mean, they've all have exposed the capturing of not

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only elected officials, but the princelings, the children of elected officials.

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And we're talking millions upon millions of dollars. And then

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we see, of course the big eight hundred thousand pound

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gorilla in the room in the form of Mitch McConnell

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and his wife. What's going on here.

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Well, that's the gift.

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If you want proof that all the things we wonder

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about are true, it's what's going on with Mitch and

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Elaine Shao's wife. You know, he was married Elaine in

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nineteen ninety three, and she's Chinese. That's fine, but it

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turns out her family owns the one of the most

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significant shipping businesses in China. And of course you can't.

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that's what you do if you're the Chinese Communist.

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Party, and so you can't.

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You're not allowed to make money in China unless the

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party wants you to.

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And they've been very successful.

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And then they were married in nineteen ninety three, and

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I think somewhere in the ten year period after they

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were married, she got a gift.

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They said it was a.

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You know, somebody died and they could give him eight

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or nine or ten million dollars. And Mitch was not

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a rich man at the time. He's now worth fifty

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sixty seventy million dollars. And so there's that, and then

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you know, pass forward to today. And the other fact

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is Mitch was pretty much of a China Hawk before

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he married Elane. Now maybe he's married a Chinese woman,

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and that's a personal thing, but one suspects that the

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family shipping business and their ties had something to do

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with it, because if he starts, if he remains hockeys

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about China, that cash flow may dry up.

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Peter Schweitzer's dug into this a lot more deeply than

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I have. And then if you just push it forward

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to today, you know, Mitch has been frail. Now he's

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retired ahead of the Senate and he's eighty four years old.

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rescue was called to his place here in d C.

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there was a CPR and they needed thought it might

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have been a heart attack. Well it turns out it wasn't,

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and it was pneumonia and he was weak, and that's

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pretty typical for eighty four year olds.

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But here's what's interesting. Elaine at the time was in China,

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and she was.

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There ostensibly to be part of a philanthropical ceremony where

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their family given money to some charity in China and

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they were being recognized for it. That's fine, But then

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a few days later she met with the vice president

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vice chair of China. I think is the number two

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or three guy, and in that Chinese Communist Party member

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of the PLIP borough. He may be one of the

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members of the Elite seven, which is the group closest

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in to President g.

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And you know what was that about?

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And so but here's so what happened though, is that

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in the time since Mitch went into the hospital, they've

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been absolutely radio silent. And by contrast, the Chinese were

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thrilled to put out all sorts of publicity about Elaine

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meeting with the vice chairman, and then they also publicized

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in that same release that Elaine had become vice chairman

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of the chipping company. I guess her sister had been

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aligned for it. But her sister was killed in Texas

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in mysterious circumstances a couple of years ago, And so

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Elaine's now vice chairman and Mitch is not really re emerged,

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and it's become a political issue because his vote's really

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very important to the Republicans. They've got a thin majority

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and I don't think I don't think he's cast a

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vote since June seventh, So where was six weeks ago?

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And you know, it just it just shows it's a

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complicated story. It's a personal story. It's a political story

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about Kentucky shot Bsher, the governor there has threatened to

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appoint a senator to replacement because he's been incapacitated, and

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he might I don't know. They're saying that may or

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may not happen. But of course he's a Democrat, and

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that was right exactly.

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He's not going to point a Republican.

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He's not going to report, you know, maybe well what

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Lindsey Graham got his sister, maybe Mitch you get maybe

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Mitch would get a Lane appointed or something. I don't know,

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but we'll well anyway, it's it's one of those stories

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where you just press here, press here, and it's you know,

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I've come to think of this as kind of the

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airless age we're in. We never really know anything, and

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they've been they've been radio silent. American people are not

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to be able to know what's happening with one of

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their senators. The Senate has no rule about about somebody

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getting incapacitated and being uh asked to resign. The presidency does,

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but not the Senate. So you know, that's where we are.

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And it's not like we can pin anything down, but

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the it just it just reeks of of of bad stuff.

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Well, it's kind of amazing. I mean, here you are,

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with your business background. It was intolerable.

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You ran a public company. I read your execut.

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If I disappeared and we didn't put out a we

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didn't put out I forget what we called of a tent,

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not a tank.

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Where there's an official notice you've got to do through

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the SEC if you if your CEO.

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Is not around, you need to let people know right exactly.

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But but I guess something as big as a country

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or a state, I guess there's there's no comparison here.

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It's just, you know, the carve outs that elected officials

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have for themselves at the risk of their constituents. It's

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amazing to me. Again, it just adds more credence to

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the corruption of this government.

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Well, unfortunately, I think we're absolutely spot on. It's a

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little depressing, you know. Go back to healthcare, go back

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to Obamacare. I remember when I was part of a

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group that was trying to get the House to do

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something to push back, and it turns out the Senators

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do not have the same health care plan we do.

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Of course not.

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You know, they've got their own their own deal, and

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I understand it's pretty plush.

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Yeah. No, that was all a special carve out, you know,

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that was done, you know, in order to get Obamacare,

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and here we are it's on. I mean, this is

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just so ridiculous because remember when they sold it, they

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said there was like thirty million people that didn't have

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health care. And my question all along was how did

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we how are we doing with that thirty million people?

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And even to the state, we don't have thirty million

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people that we've covered with Obamacare, even when it's basically free.

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Well, yeah, I mean that's just yet another you know,

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they put it, they put a nice name on the

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nice name on the on the bill, and but you

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look under the hood. You've ever read one of these things,

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It's incredible how many special, special favors are dueled out

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in the in the covers of these, you know, twelve

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hundred page pieces of legislation.

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It's uh, you know, I mean, you know, it was

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one sided. Just like you said, Bill, it was definitely

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all for Democrats and there was nothing for Republicans. It

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was it was unilaterally driven you know, by by party doxology.

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Well, you know, and I think the Republicans for all

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their flaws, are still reasonably fairly principled about this, and

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they're not.

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They're not. They don't go for it. It's quite as

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much as.

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That that's putting mildly as much as the Democrats do.

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Because remember, their business is really government. Our business exactly

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private sector. We think about running our business, taking care

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of our family, church, all the sort of civil society

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things that really count. But that's not our business. Their

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business is government and power, and so we're not built

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that way. And so therefore we go into combat with them,

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and we're playing with the Marcus of Queensberry rules and

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they've got lead pipes and knives and guns and stuff

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like that, and we don't win.

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554
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The New American. He's a publisher of the New American magazine.

555
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:48.640
Thanks Steve. How you doing, hey?

556
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:49.400
Bill? How are you doing?

557
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.920
Hey? I'm doing just a sidebar by the way. The

558
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.480
commemorative issue, I guess it's a collector's issue that you

559
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:58.920
did on the deep State, that your team did, it's

560
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.240
just absolutely outstanding. I've had more comments from friends in

561
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.079
my circle that I've mentioned about what a great job

562
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.720
you did in breaking down, you know, the history of

563
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.480
the deep State and dealing with some of these issues

564
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.759
that some would consider as conspiratorial.

565
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.839
Yes, well, thank you so much. We we aimed to please,

566
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.839
and we felt that a thirty years was time to

567
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.880
revisit the issue in a special issue.

568
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.640
So well, And like you said, it's you know for

569
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.400
people that you know think whenever you hear you know

570
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.480
one right here there, it is when you think about

571
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.559
the Illuminati and you know the roots of you know,

572
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.200
the deep State, and really it just comes down to

573
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.240
just comes down to who's who's got the money, right.

574
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.279
Yeah, I mean, certainly money is a large part of it.

575
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.599
There are other issues as well, but yeah, I mean,

576
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at some to some degree. I mean that the people

577
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.640
who are the ultimate movers and shakers behind what we

578
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.319
call the deep state, I think are perhaps maybe not

579
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.799
a political but they're certainly driven by an ideology. I mean,

580
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:05.720
they're not without ideology. They have goals. They have an ideology,

581
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.319
the ideology of power. I suppose that motivates them. So

582
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.599
I mean, and this accounts for their their zeal and

583
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.640
their tenacity in trying to achieve those those goals, not

584
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just in a single country like the United States, but worldwide.

585
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.519
You know, it's interesting because Democrats are always accused of,

586
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.480
you know, being so interested in power and control, you know,

587
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.400
as Lindsey Graham would state it. But I got to

588
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.839
tell you, the deep Staters make the Democrats look like,

589
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.880
you know, their little pawns on a bigger chessboard.

590
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:40.279
Well, sure, I mean the Democratic Party being I guess

591
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:43.960
what would have once been called the court faction. You know,

592
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.880
it's the party whose whose raizone deetra is to defend

593
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:52.440
the status quo and to follow power wherever it leads

594
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.640
and you know, the Republicans until recently have been primarily

595
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.279
the loyal opposition, have a different, differentunct, so they're you know,

596
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:03.039
the Democratic Party serve in the United States is more

597
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.839
in sympathetic certainly to the aims of the globalists and

598
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.119
the radical left and the other main factions within this

599
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.319
this you know, the deep state, the conspiracy that's that's

600
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:20.519
trying to to radically overhaul the culture government and you

601
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.119
know the totality of the United States and recondition it

602
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.319
so that it will fit with a new world order.

603
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:29.720
I mean, that's a term people hear, that conspirit. That's

604
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.920
actually the term that they've used for centuries to describe

605
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.400
this utopian project.

606
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.079
Yeah, because how many people are we talking you know,

607
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.000
maybe a thousand or so elites, I mean uber elites

608
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:46.000
that are very private and secretive, that are the lever pullers,

609
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:50.480
as you say, uh, looking in terms of an ultimate

610
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:54.559
goal of global control and power, right.

611
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.160
I mean, it's I don't know how many there are.

612
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.680
It's certainly a small minority of people, but actually there

613
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:03.839
is a large I mean they're they're they're different layers

614
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:05.200
to it is. There are a large number of people

615
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:10.000
who are ideological supporters in varying degrees. And it's hard

616
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.039
to know, you know, those who aret the apex of

617
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.000
the power of power, so to speak, how many they

618
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.599
may actually be. But they're certainly found all over the world,

619
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:22.079
you know, and and and speak different languages and at

620
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:26.839
least professedly belong to different you know, religions and cultures

621
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:30.440
and this kind of thing. But but in their innermost

622
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.559
convictions they are globalists. They don't they don't, you know,

623
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.160
those things are are just are just trappings are are

624
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:40.000
you know, are our superficialities, so you know, and and

625
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.640
many of them probably are not household names. I mean,

626
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.000
we tend to say, oh, well this billionaire or that politician,

627
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.480
those are those are the are the deep state. But

628
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.880
a lot of them are people who are uh, you know,

629
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.319
perhaps not so well known to the general public or

630
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.640
not at all, who wild power and and you know,

631
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.359
and characterizing it, I mean, I find the term deep

632
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:04.319
state to be not misleading, but perhaps limiting, because it

633
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:11.880
implies that at root this movement is is political and

634
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:13.559
and that's no more accurate than to say, well, it's

635
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.440
just a bunch of you know, central bankers, you know,

636
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.119
I mean, that's part of it too. But it's not

637
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.200
purely about money either. At root, it is actually spiritual

638
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:26.440
and the political and the financial and the cultural ramifications

639
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.759
are are aspects of it. But but rude, I mean,

640
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.839
there's there's a there's a powerful spiritual or dare I say,

641
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.200
anti spiritual conviction among the people. And I mean one

642
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.759
example of this, and this is not a contemporary figure,

643
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.240
but someone who lived several hundred years ago is John D.

644
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:44.599
Most people have no idea. I mentioned John D and

645
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.119
one of my artor and most people have no idea

646
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:47.759
who this guy John D was. Well, I'll tell you

647
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:54.400
he was. He was a practitioner of black magic, including necromancy,

648
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.519
which is where you try to raise the dead black

649
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.039
black magic. He actually he did this with a guy

650
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.000
named or tried to. I don't know how successful he was,

651
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.799
but he went into graveyards and tried to raise dead

652
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.719
people and commune with spirits with with an even more

653
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:13.920
sinister character named Edward Kelly, who followed him around. He

654
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:17.159
was fascinated with all aspects of the occult. He say, okay,

655
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.519
well he sounds like a really weird fringe character. Well,

656
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.519
he was also a polymath at the Apex of Elizabethan,

657
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.119
England's you know, kind of not only academic but political scene.

658
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.320
And he was a privy counselor to Queen Elizabeth the

659
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.239
First and he was the guy who is credited with

660
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.320
thinking up the idea of the British Empire. It was

661
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.719
his idea. He went to Elizabeth and said, you know,

662
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:43.400
here's what we need to do to change the world.

663
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.239
We need to take all of these wonderful civilized laws

664
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.400
and this whole system of British civilization and we need

665
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.039
to find a way to extend it worldwide. And we're

666
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:55.000
going to do this by you know. And he proposed

667
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:58.039
this this project. And so you can find that in Wikipedia.

668
00:34:58.079 --> 00:34:59.880
That's actually not secret. Most people are just on a

669
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.000
aware of the fact that the guy who thunk up

670
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.440
the British Empire, one of the most consequential events of

671
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:10.039
the last thousand years, was this weirdo. Yes, right, yeah,

672
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.719
So this kind of shows and and and and as

673
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.639
in motivation to this, I don't think it was you know,

674
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.159
petty partisan politics or whatever was the equivalent thereof back

675
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.960
in Elizabethan, England. It was it was owing to his

676
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:25.119
spiritual views and in his case and many others like him,

677
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:27.960
people who are inclined towards the occult, this idea and

678
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:32.119
the perfectibility of man, this idea that that we ourselves

679
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.800
are capable of bringing about an earthly paradise. I mean,

680
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.360
that's certainly the motive. That's that's what socialism is in

681
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:38.880
a fact.

682
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.679
Right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, it's basically godless, I would think,

683
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.079
even though they may claim some sort of you know,

684
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:51.280
religious ideology, but it is you know, it seems to

685
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.400
be humanistic more so. And as you mentioned, uh, you know,

686
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:59.000
they like not having their names and lights. They don't

687
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.320
want to be noticed figures, and it would see.

688
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:04.960
Yeah, and I mean unlike in John D's day, where

689
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:08.199
some of these these these guys had sort of rock

690
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.679
star status because that was the age when things like

691
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.599
alchemy were very celebrated. Still your latter day John Dee's

692
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.880
are not, you know, not the sort of people that

693
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.920
most people are aware of. I mean probably the last

694
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.360
such I would think would probably be probably Alistair Crowley,

695
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.119
and he's of course been dead for a long time,

696
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.679
but he was kind of a celebrated cultist and he

697
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.840
was very influential politically too. He was he had his

698
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.840
contacts in the highest, you know, corridors of power in

699
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:36.800
both you know, Britain and the United States. And it

700
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.960
was highly and remains highly influential, I mean, certainly in

701
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.719
the world of entertainment. It's it's hard to you know,

702
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.119
to comb through much of the output of of Hollywood

703
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.639
without coming up with references to Aleister Crowley and to

704
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.679
his exactly his beliefs so called Thelema and everything else

705
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.760
his philosophy. So, you know, and then there are people

706
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:56.360
like that today. Most of them are you know, are

707
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.920
not not well. I'm not saying they're all occultists like

708
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.920
like Crowley, but I am saying that, you know, I mean,

709
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.880
Adolf Hitler once made a comment about Nazism. He said,

710
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.239
people that look at Nazism and I'm paraphrasing, but he said,

711
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.559
people who see Nazism as just a political movement don't

712
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.239
understand what it's about. And in that he was telling

713
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:18.559
the truth, right, because Nazism also originated as an occult movement.

714
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:19.559
You know.

715
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:23.960
The Tula Gazellschaft, which Hitler and all the inner circle

716
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:27.280
of the Nazi belonged to, wasn't a cult organization, and

717
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.400
it was derived from what we would now call the

718
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.039
you know, the early New Age or you know, movement

719
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:37.519
of the Theosophical Society, and you know Helena Plovotsky and

720
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.519
any Bazant and all that crowd. You know. Again, these

721
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.079
are not necessarily household names anymore unless people into the occult,

722
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.119
you know, which I do not recommend, by the way.

723
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.800
But the point being is that that again, Nazism, which

724
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:55.760
was a terrible, enormously you know, consequential part of you know,

725
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:58.920
the globalism in the mid twentieth century, you know, and

726
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.840
obviously wrought Cheryl have it was ultimately spiritual in nature.

727
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.360
And this is this is the important thing to bear

728
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.400
in mind. Uh. These people are you know, some of them.

729
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.079
They may be atheistic, but they do have their their

730
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:14.559
their philosophy and their goals and and and and which

731
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:15.880
animates them well.

732
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.320
And this is why they embraced, I believe, embraced in

733
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:24.079
part Darwinism, you know, so uh you know so uh

734
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.159
how I want to say, you know so easily, let's

735
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:28.760
put it that way.

736
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.199
Yeah, well, and many other things. It's one of the

737
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:35.239
reasons for their tremendous patience. I mean want to say, well,

738
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.480
you know, I I often hear the idea of conspiracy

739
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.079
debunked on more or less at this base. Rush Limbaugh

740
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:43.119
used to do this, used to say, well, you know,

741
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.039
it's impossible to keep a conspiracy secret, you know these people.

742
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.519
And to an extent, he's right in the sense that

743
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.440
if you look out, if you look at the evidence,

744
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.719
it's not really that secret. You know, there are admissions

745
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.639
against interest, uh, you know, obviously Carol Quigley's uh book

746
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.119
Tragedy and Hope is a really good example of that.

747
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:05.440
And and but there are others as well. I mean,

748
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.679
if you can't read the writings of any of these

749
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.159
prominent occult people from John D. Onward without coming into,

750
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.400
you know, across references of a secret global elite brotherhood.

751
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:17.760
They call it by different names, but they all have

752
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:19.719
the same the same thing. They say, the world is

753
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.920
secretly controlled by these people. And they're good, you know,

754
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.639
because their aims are noble in all this, and they

755
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:27.599
know each other and they speak to everyent. But you know,

756
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.840
they all the same thing. Well, are they're all just

757
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.039
making this stuff up? Obviously? You know, the the the

758
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:35.880
the skeptic is going to say, well, they're just all

759
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.199
making up. But are they all making up the same story?

760
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.639
You know, I mean, you know, the whole idea of

761
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:43.400
so called esotericism is the idea of this, this, this,

762
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.719
there's this, this group worldwide that has this has this power.

763
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.760
I choose to believe it. I mean, I see enough

764
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.920
evidence suggest that this that this is essentially a correct picture.

765
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Hey, welcome back. We're talking with Steve Bonta. He is

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the publisher for the New American magazine. When you look

839
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at the fruit on the tree, I mean the tree

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is going to bear a specific fruit based on its

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root system, and so it's quite telling. I mean you

842
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have to really just you know, purposely blind yourself, you know,

843
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to that reality to see these underpinnings that are going

844
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on and of course that are being manifest more and

845
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:31.760
more in our country today. And we're going to talk

846
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about that in just a moment. But to kind of

847
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wrap things up again, congratulations on this, you know, on

848
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this publication and this special COMMITMENTTIVE magazine, Steve. How can

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people access it?

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Well, it's a you can't order it online to go

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to the New American dot com our website again here

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we're very proud of this issue and it's selling very

857
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well and we're hoping that it opens opens more eyes

858
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as to the the I mean, there are lots and

859
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:14.760
lots of people bill out there who are sympathetic in

860
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:18.239
varying degrees to the to the cause of freedom and

861
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:22.079
limited government all this stuff which is so important. But

862
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.079
it's important, you know, to understand also from whence the

863
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:30.159
opposition derives its vitality. Why is it that it's so

864
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:33.400
hard to win this fight? Why is it that it

865
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:36.599
always seems like two steps forward, three steps back. And

866
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.199
the answer is because the enemy is organized, and no

867
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.519
complete accounting of the freedom struggle is possible without acknowledging that,

868
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:49.079
without saying, you know, understanding somewhat the nature of the

869
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:49.960
enemy face.

870
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.719
Well, you're exactly right. I see the enemy working a

871
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.039
lot harder. I mean, look at what's happening, you know,

872
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:57.880
across our country with the Democratic Socialist I mean, they're

873
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:59.800
out of the closet, full blown. I mean we've known

874
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.119
this for a long time, you know, for decades that

875
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.519
this was a you know, a growing organization, and now

876
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.559
here they are. I mean they've captured you know, the

877
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.400
mayor's seat in New York. You've got three candidates in

878
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.400
New York heading you know, potentially to Congress, and they're

879
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:21.440
very outspoken about their Democratic Socialistic not even leanings, but

880
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:22.199
their commitment.

881
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:27.880
Yeah. Absolutely, and I mean I mean that's obviously. Socialism

882
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.559
is the main kind of the public face of this

883
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:35.480
of this this drive for for for for global control,

884
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:37.800
and you know, this type of thing we call it socialism,

885
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:43.840
but it's it's just the ideology of pure amoral, collectivized power,

886
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.519
that's all it is. And everything that and again with

887
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:51.559
and even with socialism, just just confining our our analysis socialism.

888
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.679
People often make the mistake of saying, well, socialism is

889
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.400
basically this this political and economic theory, and it's not.

890
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.239
If you origins of socialism, you find that all of

891
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.079
the you know, the people that it was also a

892
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.760
radical social experiment. I mean, all the first socialist communes

893
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.679
were all into getting rid of marriage and the family

894
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.880
and having you know, as they called it then and

895
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.400
now free love and all the rest of this. There's

896
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:21.280
always been this counter cultural, moral or anti moral dimension

897
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.480
of the thing we call socialism. So just looking at

898
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.320
it as a like a politically a political partisan thing

899
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.519
or maybe an instance of extreme you know, but purely

900
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.239
political zealotry, is it, do you know, fails to capture

901
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.920
the totality of what socialism is. And so there's nothing

902
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.360
at all inconsistent about the fact that the same people

903
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.920
who are espousing uh socialist you know, economic and political

904
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.360
collectivism are also a spouse, are trying to get rid

905
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.960
of the family, are trying to destroy family values, are

906
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.760
implacable foes of organized religions, particularly Christianity, all that kind

907
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.159
of thing. It's all of a piece.

908
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.840
Right, And in all the years of human history, what

909
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.679
success record can you point to and say, you see

910
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.519
here during the Roman Empire, or you know, during you

911
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.960
know another empire, it worked brilliantly, or you know the

912
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:21.440
Russians handled it, or you know whatever. I mean. Every

913
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:25.719
time you look at socialism as a history element, you

914
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.960
see mediocrity, You see devastation, human carnage. So here it

915
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.199
is the striving to have it your way, like as

916
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.800
if you're ordering up a hamburger. You end up in

917
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:40.719
the process just you know, debilitating the social norms and

918
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.320
the things that brought you to the dance, and you've

919
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.639
just blown up the whole party.

920
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:47.960
Well that's true. And I think that a lot of

921
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.159
people on the left, at least the more intelligent ones,

922
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:56.880
they know this, but they're motivated by a desire to

923
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:02.599
destroy the existing order that can be accomplished by socialism.

924
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.599
And so be it the I mean, the whole The

925
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.840
term radical comes from the word for root radics, right,

926
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:11.079
and the idea is that the only thing that will

927
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:15.559
suffice to bring about this aforementioned earthly paradise. You know, this,

928
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:20.320
this this this utopia that human kind God listened to utopia,

929
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.079
I have to say, uh, you know, you know, done

930
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.960
by the hands of man. Uh is the total uprooting

931
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.400
of everything that went before. And of course anyone who

932
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.559
you know, who knows anything about gardening. What if you

933
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:36.239
pull a planet by its roots, you kill it? Yes,

934
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.559
but that's what they want to do, is to kill utterly.

935
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:43.320
And if that means, you know, the death of billions

936
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:48.760
of souls and the desolation spoken of by Tacitus, Uh,

937
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:51.840
then so be it. As long as you know, we

938
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.320
can emerge at the far end with something new, something

939
00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.679
radically new. We will finally have banished God and morality

940
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.079
and all the other things that they consider to be

941
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:06.760
the source of all of the ills and troubles on

942
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.320
this earth, and we'll have created this new temporal paradise

943
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.039
that will not be encumbered anymore by those things. People

944
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:14.360
will to do what they want. That'll be the whole

945
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.599
of the law, as Aleister Crowley famously put it, you know,

946
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.840
and and that will suffice and if and if to

947
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.000
get from there, from here to there, we have to

948
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.000
sacrifice most of humanity on a modern day you know,

949
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.360
alter of Moloch, will so be it? Yeah, I mean,

950
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:34.440
obviously you have to to break a lot of eggs

951
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:38.320
to make this particular omelet. That's that's the reasoning. So

952
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.480
I think you know a lot of them, you know,

953
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:45.840
do know that theirs is a recipe for desolation and destruction.

954
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.719
But that's what they want, you know, they say, some

955
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:50.840
people just want to watch the world burn. That's kind

956
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.920
of become a bit of a of a punchline, but

957
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.360
it's actually true.

958
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.920
Right, that's what. And they're not satisfied with socialism. I mean,

959
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.519
socialism has faced. It's the yellow brick rug communism, right,

960
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.639
I mean, it's not a big leap once you once

961
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.119
you become a socialist, you know, the transition to communism

962
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:10.679
is uh, you know, almost natural.

963
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:14.639
Well, communism is is sort of a specialized form of socialism.

964
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:18.039
Most communists will say, I mean, like the Chinese Communist Party,

965
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.719
they they anymore, they say we're socialist, you know, I mean,

966
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:27.239
socialism is the more correct term. Communism generally nowadays refers

967
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:31.239
to a specific brand of socialism advocated by Karl Marx

968
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.440
and that crowd, and a lot of people like the

969
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:39.800
Fabian Socialists, for example, really don't believe in that because

970
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:43.239
they say, you know this this abrupt, violent, revolutionary scheme

971
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.519
that communism requires ain't gonna work. What we need to

972
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.639
do is is is erect the house of socialist world

973
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.760
order bit by bit gradually, you know, basically, transform hearts

974
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.679
and minds and you know, if necessary, rule and ruin.

975
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.559
But you know what, but but this more gradualist approach

976
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.480
and then the other problem, you know, and the reason

977
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.000
that modern day Marxists oftentimes you know, reject you know,

978
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:11.000
the communist recipe. Per sayes. They say, well, you know

979
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:13.280
the problem with communism is, you know, it only it

980
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:17.039
only works if you have a large uneducated peasantry like

981
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.639
they head in Russia or China. And that's why communism

982
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.559
had never really taken root, you know, taken over in

983
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.400
countries that have higher standards of living, in education and

984
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:26.000
so forth.

985
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:26.199
And so on.

986
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:28.679
So so there are you know, some differences in that.

987
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.400
But you know, Marxism writ large certainly, you know, embraces

988
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:33.199
all of the above.

989
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:35.599
Well you look at what happened with Germany. I mean,

990
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:39.400
Germany was a pretty you know, intellectual, uh you know

991
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.440
country at the time. Of course we're talking communism and

992
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:46.079
we're talking fascism as opposed to communism. But you know,

993
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:51.719
any ism whatsoever. You know, that relies on a constituency

994
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:55.559
that's been dumbed down and mediocritized. You could argue that

995
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.239
our educational system has been very effective in doing that

996
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:00.519
with this new generation.

997
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:02.719
Yeah, well, I mean the thing is, again, if I

998
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:04.280
were a new world order, right, I'd be looking at

999
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:06.719
the Nazis and saying, that's not the that's not what

1000
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.280
I want to do, because look, it didn't last very long, right,

1001
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.320
I mean, it was obviously a failure. They tried to

1002
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.960
do too much too quickly, and so you know, ended

1003
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:18.239
up coming a croppers of the rest of the world.

1004
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:21.199
We know what happened to Nazism. So so what they're

1005
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.480
what they're saying instead is they say, well, let's how

1006
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:26.440
can we make this permanent? You know, how can we

1007
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:30.760
how can we ease humanity through this radical transition into

1008
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:33.920
a new, entirely new order and make sure that it sticks,

1009
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.840
you know, and make sure that we never return to

1010
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:41.679
a time of sovereign nations and you know, religious faith

1011
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:43.159
and all the you know, belief in a god that

1012
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.559
doesn't exist, you know, fairy fairy tales and all this

1013
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:51.280
type of thing. Again, that's what they think. So you know,

1014
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:55.239
in in their in their hidden conclaves and conferences and

1015
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.119
so forth. I mean, I have no doubt this is

1016
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.239
the kind of thing that they're that they that they discuss,

1017
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.519
you know, very serious terms. Is how do you bring

1018
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.280
this about and make it stick?

1019
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.199
See about thirty seconds left. What about the hope for America.

1020
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:11.519
I'm gonna let you wrap it up.

1021
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.800
Go ahead, Well, the hope for America resides in bringing

1022
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.159
these hidden things to light, and in also instilling in

1023
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:24.039
people and appreciation of the positive values of the founders.

1024
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.199
You know, the fact that there is a God that

1025
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:31.199
he has given to us unalienable rights that make us

1026
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.480
who we are, that the proper state of man in

1027
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:39.119
this world and universe is as a free moral agent,

1028
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:43.639
not a slave or a chattel, and everything that flows

1029
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.239
from that, and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

1030
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.280
So all of these things work together, and when we

1031
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:52.760
have enough people with with that critical understanding, we're going

1032
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.000
to have a free country again, and the tide will

1033
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:56.119
turn well.

1034
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.119
And here we are on the verge of celebrating two

1035
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.280
hundred and fifty years and we have Europeans and people

1036
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.599
for around the world coming into our country and celebrating

1037
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:09.280
our country and helping us appreciate just how exceptional the

1038
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.320
United States of America is, right.

1039
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:13.280
Yeah, yeah, and good for them. Who would have thought

1040
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.400
the World Cup would be such a transformative political event,

1041
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:17.440
But hey, we'll take it.

1042
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.239
Yeah, absolutely, I'm with you. He's the publisher of the

1043
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.039
New American magazine. Steve Bonta. Thank you, Steve, Take care,

1044
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:24.920
God bless Thanks Bill, same to you.

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1064
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1065
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:38.760
Hey, good morning, six minutes off the top of the hour,

1066
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.119
right now, Bill Martinez here. Great to have you with us.

1067
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.880
Also great to have Chris Omen, president of the Eagle Forum.

1068
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.519
And we were just talking off, you know, before we

1069
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.679
got on here about uh, you know, the one and

1070
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.840
only Phyllis Shoffley, and uh, you know, Phyllis I was

1071
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.639
explaining to Chris had been on with us many many

1072
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.760
times over the year before we're passing, and uh, you

1073
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.280
know what an incredible legacy, and Chris, you must feel

1074
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:06.079
like it's sometimes you're on hallow ground, you know, having

1075
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:07.960
picked up the mantle from Phyllis.

1076
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.400
Absolutely, I was, you know, blessed to work directly for

1077
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:14.800
her for four years in the nineties to run the

1078
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:18.760
DC office. She was my mentor, she was my friend.

1079
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.400
I learned so much from her and just you know,

1080
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:26.119
occasionally I'll go back and just watch old videos and

1081
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:29.800
just relearn all the lessons. She was such a happy warrior,

1082
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.920
She was inspirational, and she was right. It's so many

1083
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.400
times I doing this job I now realize how right

1084
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.000
she was and how she had a way of even

1085
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.400
looking into the future to see what things were going

1086
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:46.800
to happen. So I still learn from her every day,

1087
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:47.519
Thank goodness.

1088
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.960
Well, she saw the trajectory of the country and that

1089
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:55.599
when conservatism was you know, was really was needed. I mean,

1090
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:58.760
a voice for conservatism. I think conservatism was always there,

1091
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:02.039
but there wasn't someone out there, you know, constantly beating

1092
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:06.159
the bushes and you know, countering the narrative, the progressive

1093
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.239
narrative that was you know, gaining momentum in the country,

1094
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:11.760
you know. But for Phillips, I mean she really you know,

1095
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.280
came in at a time when it was needed and

1096
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:16.679
served as a stopcat. And I would dare say that

1097
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:18.800
if she was here today, she'd be doing the same

1098
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.199
thing on our two hundred and fiftieth birthday of this

1099
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:22.480
great country of ours.

1100
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:27.719
Absolutely, she loved America. She loved our Constitution and our Declaration,

1101
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:34.199
and she was instrumental at getting everyday Americans to realize

1102
00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.079
how much impact they could have on their government. So

1103
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.480
she wrote a Choice on an Echo in nineteen sixty

1104
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:41.800
four and it was really to wake up the grassroots.

1105
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:46.039
That was a decade before the Er fight, and she said, hey, guys,

1106
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.159
this is what's happening in our party. But it doesn't

1107
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:53.000
have to be this way. We can actually have a voice,

1108
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.079
we can have an impact, we can go to the

1109
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:59.119
Republican conventions, we can speak out on issues. And that

1110
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.760
was really her legacy, and that was the legacy of

1111
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:05.199
the Equal Rights Amendment, that women from all around the

1112
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:08.440
country could stand up and you know what, beat back

1113
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:12.719
the elite, beat back, the media, beat back everybody in power,

1114
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.199
and say our voice matters. And that is you know,

1115
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.840
I think if Donald Trump did anything he wrote in

1116
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:24.960
on what she had started that actually, when the people

1117
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.559
speak out about what they want, they can actually get what.

1118
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:32.360
They want exactly. Well, you know, to me, Fellows, really,

1119
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:37.679
you know, brought light to the contrast and because the

1120
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:41.800
conservative viewpoint was stifled and just you know, was ignored

1121
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:44.440
and that until you know, she really brought light to

1122
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.119
the problem. And I think Donald Trump's doing the same thing.

1123
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.159
Is that with common sense, I mean the truth and

1124
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:54.920
common sense. Well, what powerful weapons. That is right, and

1125
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:57.920
you know it's like, okay, argue against the truth, argue

1126
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.840
against common sense, and so much today we talk about, oh,

1127
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.440
these are eighty twenty issues, eighty twenty issues. Well then

1128
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:09.079
why why are we so mired and not getting beyond

1129
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:11.639
these eighty twenty issues to really, you know, get those

1130
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:13.639
out of the way, get those resolved, and let's move

1131
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.480
on to getting this country back on track.

1132
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.039
Yes, and especially when we look at the issue of

1133
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:24.760
feminism and the definition of women, men in women's sports,

1134
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:28.599
men in women's locker rooms, and women's shelters and prisons.

1135
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.000
She was on the forefront of all this. She could

1136
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:33.440
see that the Equal Rights Amendment was actually going to

1137
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:37.000
take away the rights of women, and she spoke in

1138
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.960
a common sense way, and women responded, They said, no,

1139
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:43.239
I don't want that. I don't want my daughters drafted.

1140
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.000
I don't want men in my daughter's sports. I don't

1141
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:48.320
want any of this stuff. And you know what, she

1142
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.599
was able to defeat it, and the Republicans who had

1143
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:57.480
supported it, you know, they were defeated. But the ones

1144
01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:59.840
who had stood up, they didn't. There was no back

1145
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.679
against them because the people understood common sense. And when

1146
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:07.119
Donald Trump talks about these common sense issues. We're not

1147
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.280
going to have men and women's sports. We are going

1148
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:15.679
to understand the differences between the sexes. You know, people respond,

1149
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:20.880
they get that, you know, not having illegal voting in

1150
01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:24.639
our elections, having you know, not having you know, two

1151
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.039
months of early voting. You know, people know that on

1152
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:31.920
the inside. And if members were just brave enough to

1153
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:35.280
go ahead and vote, they would understand that the voters

1154
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.920
will reward them for taking the common sense.

1155
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:43.559
Position exactly, and and not to be threatened by the

1156
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:48.079
socialist movement that's happening, right, I mean, look at again,

1157
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:51.360
this is contrast, and people are going to see that

1158
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:55.159
the socialist movement, which has been a legacy of its history,

1159
01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:00.159
and and you know it's empirical what happens with socialism,

1160
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.159
and you know it's not going to work. It never

1161
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.000
has worked. There's never you know, whenever you know, I

1162
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.719
speak with somebody who is pro socialist, all right, set

1163
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:12.960
my mind at ease. Give me an example when socialism

1164
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:17.239
has worked in all the hears of my history. Give

1165
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.199
me an example. And all of a sudden their eyes

1166
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.159
glaze over. They can't come up with anything. So I said,

1167
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.239
this is the problem that I have. Whereas here we

1168
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:30.400
are two hundred and fifty years of capitalism and this

1169
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:34.599
great American idea which we were blessed by God and

1170
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:40.199
given the stewardship of this incredible idea, and it's up

1171
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:43.920
to us, as many presidents before, you know, just right

1172
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:47.239
on down the line said, look at it is something

1173
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:49.960
that we're going to have to constantly be vigilant over.

1174
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:53.559
Freedom is not free, but it's worth fighting.

1175
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.880
Absolutely. Can you still hear me?

1176
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:00.519
Yes, I can hear you, Okay.

1177
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:06.519
Great Phillis was an absolute anti communist, pro capitalist. She

1178
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:10.400
spoke extensively most people don't know this, but on the

1179
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:14.079
beauty of our patent system, which, of course life liberty,

1180
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:18.679
the pursuit of happiness gave us Americans the right to

1181
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:22.159
benefit from not only the fruit of our labor, but

1182
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:26.119
from our imagination and our ingenuity. In other countries, if

1183
01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:30.280
you invented something, the government held the patent, they got rich.

1184
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:32.800
And she always focused on that. Do you know what

1185
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.599
the key to American innovation is this article in our

1186
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constitution that gave inventors the right to control their property

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the fruit of their own minds. And again, that is

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something that is so important. Young people really don't understand

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of educating the next generation on the beauties of the

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American system, capitalism, the patent system, life, flipperty, and the

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pursuit of happiness, what that means and why it's such

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a beacon to the entire world. Our freedoms.

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nowhere and in a short merit amount of time becomes

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such the superpower. But it unleashed, you know, there, god

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given right, inalienable right is noted in our constitution. And

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the people gravitated to that and they flourished because they

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could be the version of themselves and we had a

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country that supported it. And the challenge has been since

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day one is you always have those antithical powers that

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are there trying to you know, stump and stifle the

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growth and move people into socialism because you have these

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elites who think, well, you know, what is Chris talking

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about to me? She's not that smart, she's not deserving

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of this, you know, Philip Shott, what does she know?

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You know?

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Kind of thing? Right?

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Well, what she knew and what I know is that

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our rights don't come from government, but come from God.

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rights not only come from the government. Your whole livelihood

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is controlled by the government. And while it sounds really great,

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We're talking with Chris Olman, president of the Eagle Forum,

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and we're going to talk a little bit more about

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philis softly. I mean, it's amazing here she is. She's

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passed away. How long has it been since she's been gone.

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Almost ten years, it'll be ten years in September.

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So ten years. And the left can help themselves, I mean,

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you know, but again it speaks of the legacy of

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one Phillis Schlapley. Before we get in in some of this,

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because I do want to talk about how people have

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been maligning or attacking her, But the thing that's so

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awesome about her is that her legacy defends itself. Yeah,

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you know, that's the thing. It's hysterical watching that just

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go after because you go, okay, but what about this?

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What about this? But you know, going back to earlier

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and just to put a ribbon around for these young

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people for them to understand, and some of the young

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people will get this is that socialism mediocritizes people. I mean,

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just what you want to do? You want to live

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a mediocre life, you want to you know, be like

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I think that's been an eye opener for the World

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Cup and these Europeans to come here and all of

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a sudden they're going, you guys got air conditioning. You know,

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eighty percent of our we don't have air You guys

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have air conditioning, And what's this what's this silly stuff

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in my drink that makes it called Oh, it's called ice.

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We don't know about ice, you know kind of thing.

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And the deal is, and I keep reminding me of

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the thing is amazing to me. Chris is there. They're

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almost modern day to Tokvilles who have come here to

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the country. And what are they saying? They're saying time

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and again people are nice. These these these are nice people.

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We've been told differently, we've been light right, so and

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I love it again the contrast that is so clear

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and glaring. And I hope that the young people are

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listening and watching observing this and go, hey, wait a minute,

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you know, have we been lied to?

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You know, absolutely, you know, I mean the world. The

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best thing about the World Cup, and I'm not a

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big soccer watcher, was that listening to the Europeans and

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the people from around the world come here and really

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inspire in us, opened our eyes to how wonderful it is.

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I just was in Greece last week and Greece is

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beautiful and the water is really blue, but there's ice

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cubes and air conditioning. To come back to that and

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just have freedom of speech and know that I can

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have a really big impact on my government and on

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my community, and that I have these rights as an American.

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Just it's really inspiring. But I'll tell you a lot

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of those Europeans who came over and we're talking about America,

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they brought a tear to my eye. They made me

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feel even more patriotic, and I'm a pretty patriotic person,

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So I loved it. I loved how they all came

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over here and we're having a great time.

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Well, and you went to Greece, probably just in time,

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because I was just reading about all these new taxes

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that they're employing on visitors coming to Greece.

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Oh yeah, well I don't know. My husband paid all

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the bills, so I didn't look at the time.

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Well, yeah, I was just reading about it that all

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these different countries, Italy and everything, in order to kind

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of manage the flow of people who are vacationing, their

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tourists and that sort of thing, and they're trying to

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manage it through adding some additional taxes.

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Well, I think they're going to find out that it

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hurts tourism and then they're worse off than they were.

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And I know some cities are a little overrun. But

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at the end of the day, some of these places

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that don't have natural resources like we have, don't have

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other things. They're relying on tour So, you know, taxes

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are a very powerful influencer of human behavior. And that's

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another thing socialists don't like to mention, But it's actually

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true that we are impacted by taxes.

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Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, it's a way to

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it's just a subtle form of stealing. They got in

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and all of a sudden, your dollar isn't worth as

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much as it used to be. And as the government

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continues to grow like this Leviathan and you know, and

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I guess maybe even some of the young people are asking, Okay,

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what are we getting out of this? And I think

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this again contrast, Donald Trump brings to the marketplace, going

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having people think in terms of return on investment. He's

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out thereotiating with countries all over the world and going, hey,

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what's in it for us? What's in it for America? Right?

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We got some like I think he's negotiated some like

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nineteen trillion dollars of investment into our country that's going

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into our country, not going into the politician's back bocket.

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But going into the country way of innovation and way

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of employment opportunities, especially with AI and everything like that,

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that's around the bend here. I don't know of another

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president that has been able to act at that level

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on behalf of the American people. If Nancy Pelosi, if

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the Democrats or Joe Biden was in it, they'd want

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their big first. They want to know what's in it

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for them, and then maybe, you know, Americans might get

1405
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you know, a couple of crumbs along the way. But

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01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:32.479
Donald Trump is looking at in such a way to where, hey,

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we could possibly you know, get back into what we

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experienced in the early beginnings of our country, where we

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were driven by tariffs not by taxes.

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Yeah.

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And I think that also speaks to the President's understanding

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that what Americans want is to be self sufficient. They

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don't want just to hand out from the government, but

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they want an opportunity, an opportunity to have a job,

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the opportunity to have industries that are growing in this

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country so that we can all flourish. I mean, look

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at aoc in New York. She actually killed an Amazon

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headquarters project up there. Who did she hurt? She hurt

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the people who lived there who were looking for those jobs.

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But Donald Trump realizes that if we can encourage people

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to come here and start businesses, it's the American people

1422
01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:26.239
who will become self sufficient, will control their own destiny.

1423
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And that is the heart of the American dream, and

1424
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:32.039
it is why our founders came here and wanted to

1425
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:36.039
start a new nation based on freedom and individual rights,

1426
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:38.640
so that we could all control our own destiny.

1427
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.479
And Chris, that asset belongs to we the people. It

1428
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:48.520
doesn't belong to the elites. And this is the problem.

1429
01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:51.600
We have got to get their stone cold hands off

1430
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:54.439
of the value and assets of the American people.

1431
01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:58.560
Yeah, getting this back to the Phyllis conversation. That is

1432
01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:03.640
one thing that she taught the grassroots conservative movement that

1433
01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:07.840
if you get involved, whether you're a homemaker or a

1434
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:12.239
businessman or whatever, you can impact your government. That was

1435
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the lesson of the Equal Rights Amendment and defeating it.

1436
01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:20.279
Three presidents were behind it, their wives, the entire Congress,

1437
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:25.319
the entire mainstream media, the entire Democratic Party, everybody. And

1438
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:32.319
she organized moms, wives, Americans, grassroots Americans from across the

1439
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:35.119
country and said We're going to go into state houses

1440
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:37.079
we're going to make the case as to why this

1441
01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:39.479
is not a good deal for the American women, for

1442
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:43.560
the American people. And she was victorious. And what people

1443
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:47.520
learned is that if I get involved, I can have

1444
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:53.279
an impact. And that is her enduring legacy. And you know,

1445
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:56.319
the left is New York Times just kind of criticized her.

1446
01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:58.800
As I was going to say, why would they attack her?

1447
01:17:58.800 --> 01:17:59.680
What are they afraid of?

1448
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:03.960
Well, they claim that she was a hypocrite because she

1449
01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:08.479
spoke eloquently about the rights of and the beauty of

1450
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.960
being a homemaker and a mother. And then they said, well,

1451
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:17.000
but yet she had this hobby of getting involved in politics,

1452
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:21.000
and really should you know, how dare she tell them

1453
01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:24.960
to to get involved?

1454
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:25.439
Right?

1455
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:27.960
Yeah, I mean it's kind of amazing. It's almost like

1456
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:30.199
they're speaking out of both sides in their mouth. You know,

1457
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:33.760
they want women to be barefoot and pregnant, and you

1458
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:37.840
know that was you know, if you understood what Phyllis's

1459
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:41.319
message was, you know, and to even be cast as

1460
01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:45.840
anti feminist, it's like, really, I mean, when you're empowering

1461
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.880
women to be the best version of themselves, you're anti

1462
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:51.880
woman exactly exactly?

1463
01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:53.960
Can you hear that noise.

1464
01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:56.920
By the way, No, I'm like, you're fine, No, We're all.

1465
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:02.199
Good, okay, okay, yeah, I mean she really did teach

1466
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:05.079
women that they could get involved and that they could

1467
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:08.119
have an impact. And you know, one of the things

1468
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:13.479
that feminists always criticized her for telling women what to do,

1469
01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:16.880
Phyllis never told women what to do. She said, I

1470
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:19.319
believe every woman should have the choice to do what

1471
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:23.079
they want, and that being a mother and a wife

1472
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:28.920
was just as valuable an occupation as having a career.

1473
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:31.239
She said, if you want a career, fine, go have

1474
01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:35.119
a career. But women who want to be mothers, we

1475
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:38.800
should recognize that as a legitimate choice in life. I

1476
01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:42.039
was blessed to do what Phyllis did. I had a career,

1477
01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.039
then I had kids, took years off to raise my kids,

1478
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:48.239
and then I got back into it. Feminists want to say, no,

1479
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:50.760
you've got to have a kid, put it in daycare,

1480
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:54.439
go to work at a firm or a factory or store,

1481
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.239
leave your kid all day. That's the only way you

1482
01:19:57.279 --> 01:20:00.000
can be a real woman. And Phillips said, that's crazy.

1483
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.079
Women should be able to do what they want to do,

1484
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:07.319
and the feminists are telling you that you're an oppressed

1485
01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:11.239
victim who has to leave their home in order to

1486
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:14.039
be a real woman. And I am so glad that

1487
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:17.720
she was my mentor and taught me so many lessons

1488
01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:19.960
about what it means to be a real woman, what

1489
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:23.520
it means to prioritize things in life, to be able

1490
01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:26.520
to have a career, leave it and come back is

1491
01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:30.119
been a real blessing. And you know, right now, what

1492
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.119
we see in our economy is too often we have

1493
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:37.359
to have two income families. Back before, when Phyllis was

1494
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:39.720
talking about the era, that was one of the things

1495
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:43.560
that they feared that stripping protections for women would force

1496
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:46.039
women who didn't want to go to work to go

1497
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:47.840
to work. And now what do we have today is

1498
01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:49.760
we have a lot of women who would like to

1499
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:52.159
stay home when they have young children, but because in

1500
01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:57.760
this economy, they can't. So feminists and do feminists celebrate that?

1501
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:02.439
You know, that's just a really weird thing to celebrate.

1502
01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:04.399
Right exactly. And our kids better.

1503
01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:08.800
Off, No, they're not. And as Ronald Reagan said, you

1504
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.399
subsidize what you subsidize, you get more of. And we

1505
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.720
subsidize unwed parentage, we subsidize getting rid of men in

1506
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:19.039
our lives, and that hurts children, it hurts women, it

1507
01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:21.880
hurts men, and it ultimately hurts our nation.

1508
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.760
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean it's it's an attack

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01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:28.079
on our society, the very Balian blocks of our society.

1510
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They're so necessary. Chris Olman, President of the Eagle Forum, Chris,

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how can people be in touch with you?

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Hey, good morning, welcome back Bill Martinez here, still lingering

1595
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in Lahina. Oh shucks, Maui Hawaiian. What a bummer.

1596
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:20.239
Huh, that's just a hard place to be. I'll pray

1597
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for you, Bill, Well, I'll pray for thank you.

1598
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:25.079
Well, we need to continue to pray for the people

1599
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:26.000
here in Lahina.

1600
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:26.439
There.

1601
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:29.560
They are Lahinas strong, There's no doubt about it. I

1602
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:33.000
had mentioned to a couple of my friends that over

1603
01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:37.920
the weekend we went to the welcome home event for Lahina.

1604
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:41.439
And this is three years, almost three years after the fires,

1605
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:44.199
Adam and the people are coming back to see you

1606
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:48.680
know how the rebuilding's coming along. I still maintain and

1607
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:51.560
I've shared this that to me as I looked at

1608
01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:54.960
the iconic Banyan tree. Anybody that camp behind it, you

1609
01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:58.760
go to the banyon tare, Yeah, just it's so majestic. Well,

1610
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:03.319
it's it's still singed, and it looks like it's it's

1611
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:07.359
still weeping, it's heartbroken, and it looks like something out

1612
01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:10.479
of a horror movie. To be honest with you, Wow, but.

1613
01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:13.199
That it's still standing. It didn't burn up.

1614
01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:16.279
No, didn't burn up. That being said, though, you're starting

1615
01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:19.560
to see some life come back into the tree. So

1616
01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:23.720
I really see that as becoming, you know, an iconic

1617
01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:28.319
picture in and of itself and representative of Lahaina, that

1618
01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:31.680
it is strong, still standing, and it is coming back.

1619
01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:36.600
Well, I I wish the best, and obviously my prayers

1620
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:39.760
are with that community as well. We have had the

1621
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:42.239
privilege of vacationing there and it's such a it's such

1622
01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:46.079
a beautiful, wonderful place, and you know there there are

1623
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:49.920
lots of beautiful, wonderful places in the world, and unfortunately,

1624
01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:57.279
sometimes really horrific things happen, and in our in our estimation,

1625
01:27:57.479 --> 01:27:59.920
looking through the glass darkly on this side of things,

1626
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:04.319
it can be really hard to make sense of tragedy, right,

1627
01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:08.079
and we never want to like glibly over spiritualize it.

1628
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.560
But we know that God has a purpose in suffering

1629
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:14.439
and loss and even in terrible things. And my prayer

1630
01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:18.000
is that the people you know of God who are

1631
01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:22.199
there could continue to be salt and light and hope

1632
01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:25.600
and grace, you know, for a community that's really just

1633
01:28:25.920 --> 01:28:26.640
starting to heal.

1634
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:27.359
It sounds like.

1635
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:31.359
Yeah, Well, as a friend of mine once wisely said

1636
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:33.960
is you never get over it. You just get through it.

1637
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:36.560
And the way to get through it is with God.

1638
01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:38.239
I don't know, you know, like you said, you don't

1639
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:42.119
want to over spiritualize, but yet you can't help. But

1640
01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:46.800
because that's where the answers to life and death lie,

1641
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:50.640
is they lie in the spiritual realm. That's where it

1642
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:54.479
can where it doesn't make sense in the temporal world

1643
01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:57.520
can start to make sense. And it's tough. I mean,

1644
01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:01.720
they lost, and they lost over to hundred people, and

1645
01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:05.119
and the greater number of those, which they're reticent to

1646
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:09.560
talk about, the greater number were kids. Yeah, you know,

1647
01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:14.319
and it's uh, it's said. But again, hope is rising,

1648
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:19.399
new life is growing. I mean, you go here and

1649
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:24.359
my daughter has quite a network of young women. And

1650
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:27.840
of course in the domain here, everybody's looked at as

1651
01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:29.039
an auntie and uncle.

1652
01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:30.680
Right, yeah, exactly.

1653
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.199
You don't you if you think you can get away

1654
01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:36.520
with stuff from your mom and dad, there's a battalion

1655
01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:39.640
of anti and uncles that are by the year and

1656
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:42.920
say no, no, no, that doesn't fly, no, no, no,

1657
01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:48.319
interact together. Yes, it's so cool. But in her age group,

1658
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.960
I'm seeing, you know, women are pregnant, new babies are coming.

1659
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.479
I mean when there is hope that you know, type

1660
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:04.439
of expression for life is so natural and you know,

1661
01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:08.039
and uh and it's quite evident. So uh, you know,

1662
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.239
you can't help but be blessed by coming here, yes,

1663
01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:13.680
and seeing the whole, you know, seeing the tragedy of

1664
01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:18.199
it all, but also seeing uh, the victory of it

1665
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:22.680
all as well as human beings as the Hawaiians and

1666
01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:24.760
the visitors and the people who love the people and

1667
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:28.199
love this island come together to support, you know, the

1668
01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:29.039
cause for life.

1669
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:30.000
That's right.

1670
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:34.079
And you know, if we look back at Scripture, we

1671
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:37.439
see the people of God rebuilding after.

1672
01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:39.399
Devastation in multiple places in the Bible.

1673
01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:43.760
And and we're all, I think all to be faithful

1674
01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:48.199
in that and to look forward to the ultimate restoration

1675
01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:51.560
that we will experience, you know, when we're fully redeemed

1676
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:54.880
and justified. Well we're justified, but fully redeemed on the

1677
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:58.159
other side. So again, I don't want to I don't

1678
01:30:58.159 --> 01:30:58.399
want to.

1679
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:01.600
No more pain, more pain, and we can all look

1680
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.840
forward to that. Let's let's talk movies if we can,

1681
01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:08.000
because after all, this is plugged in its time, that's right.

1682
01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:10.560
We appreciate all the great work that the team is

1683
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:15.159
doing on our behalf. Let's revisit Odyssey. Uh still some

1684
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:17.680
mixed Uh, you know, a lot of thing.

1685
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:21.960
I mean, yeah, the commentary is really mixed.

1686
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:24.880
I think that.

1687
01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:25.880
Well.

1688
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:29.279
I spend a lot of time in the conservo sphere

1689
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:30.600
you might call it, you.

1690
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:34.159
Know, the YouTube and X and that sort of.

1691
01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:39.760
Thing, and certainly there was a lot of antipathy for

1692
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:44.840
the character choices and some of the casting choices leading

1693
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:48.720
into this. Having said that, I have talked to more

1694
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:52.720
than one person that leans in that direction that said,

1695
01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:55.760
you know, I went in expecting to hate it. Not

1696
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:57.720
only did I not hate it, it was a really

1697
01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:04.319
good movie, you know, And so obviously really good movie is.

1698
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:05.920
About as subjective as it gets.

1699
01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:10.840
What plugged In is about, more than evaluating some of

1700
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.239
those swaps, is the content. And as we talked about

1701
01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:15.880
last week, it's a violent movie.

1702
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:17.199
I would say it.

1703
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:22.840
Is just barely an R rated territory, but it is there,

1704
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:27.199
and it smooths some of Odysseus's rough edges just a

1705
01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:31.359
little bit. So I think it's a it's kind of

1706
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:34.520
a rorshack test. I think you can look at it

1707
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:36.760
and see a lot of different things. There are plenty

1708
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:40.800
of reviewers who may not be represented in the glowing

1709
01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:45.640
rotten Tomato numbers, who have said, naw, this thing is

1710
01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:48.479
just a big empty mess. But there are a lot

1711
01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:50.600
of other people that I respect who have said, now,

1712
01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:55.239
it's despite my skepticism, it's a pretty engaging film. So,

1713
01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:58.319
you know, for the most part, I would say Christopher

1714
01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:01.119
Nolan doesn't make really bad movies.

1715
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:03.279
He's made some that it's.

1716
01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:05.000
Like, Okay, can we turn the music down a little

1717
01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:08.079
bit so I can hear what I'm looking at you Tenant,

1718
01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:10.560
because who knows what really happened in Tenant? I don't,

1719
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:15.039
But even Tenant, you can even when he misses, there's

1720
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:18.279
a big swing, right, you know, it's a foul tip

1721
01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:19.880
that still goes up four hundred.

1722
01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:23.600
Feet in the air. But have you had a chance

1723
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:24.720
to see it yet, Bill.

1724
01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:25.520
No, I have not.

1725
01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:29.720
I've been engaged here, you know, for obvious reasons, as

1726
01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:32.760
you can understand, as much time as possible. I want

1727
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:34.520
to spend with the kids, and I want to be

1728
01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:37.239
able to do that, you know. Yeah, which isn't to

1729
01:33:37.279 --> 01:33:39.640
say that we haven't checked out. You know, some movies,

1730
01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.560
especially with the One Grand said, I get a kick

1731
01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:44.600
out of him every time we get together. He loves

1732
01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:49.039
the movie Coco. We will sit here, I mean, he'll

1733
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:51.840
watch it. Oh Grandpa, get a what? And I go, well, honey,

1734
01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:53.239
we've already seen it three times.

1735
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:53.560
I know.

1736
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:56.279
He's so good and the deal he see what he

1737
01:33:56.319 --> 01:33:58.479
doesn't really and it's hard for him to relate to

1738
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:03.439
is that Coco. It's my mother and my grandmother. You know,

1739
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:07.279
I watched that movie and oh my gosh, I mean

1740
01:34:07.319 --> 01:34:10.159
he probably looks at me sometimes wondering, Okay, why is grandpa,

1741
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:13.800
why why is there a tear rolling down his face? Yeah,

1742
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:16.920
it's it's my it's my parents. It's my mother and

1743
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.399
my grandmother. Yeah, you know, and and all the different

1744
01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:24.359
you know, mannerisms and and the you know, the names,

1745
01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:27.119
and you know Hispanic culture.

1746
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:29.039
You know that comes back to it culture.

1747
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:31.880
Oh my god, it's it's just it's just absolutely precious.

1748
01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:34.079
But yeah, I mean, we we've had our movie. But

1749
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:38.720
he loves Coco, and so we're both Coco and local

1750
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:45.159
Coco Loco for Cocoa exactly. So, but no, it's it's

1751
01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:46.960
on the list. I've got to check it out. And

1752
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:48.840
you know, and there has been mixed reviews, And I

1753
01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:51.760
got to tell you, initially I was hesitant only because

1754
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:53.840
like a lot of people these days, I mean, we

1755
01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:55.479
spend a lot of money when we go to the movies,

1756
01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:57.960
and we want to make sure that it's the best investment.

1757
01:34:58.039 --> 01:34:59.960
It's going to make sense, and you know there's gonna

1758
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:03.039
be you know, some payoff there. You know, after all,

1759
01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:06.760
you know what money you invest in time and of

1760
01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.760
course in our lives, you know, time is money, and yeah,

1761
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:13.600
so it means a lot. But anyway, what you've got

1762
01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:16.640
another movie that we're not quite ready to talk about it,

1763
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:18.640
but well, we can keep it.

1764
01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:20.800
We can tiptoe into it every now and then. The

1765
01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:23.159
timing of our recording and the timing of when we

1766
01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:25.600
get to see things is a little bit off right.

1767
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.039
But there's a Christian movie coming out this week called

1768
01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:32.039
Bad Counselors. It's a Fathom Events release. It's only in

1769
01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:35.560
theaters from the twenty second through the twenty seventh, so

1770
01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:39.039
if this sounds interesting, don't wait around. And it's a

1771
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:41.800
couple of sort of ne'er do well frat guys who

1772
01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:45.359
end up as counselors at a Christian camp. And for

1773
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:47.760
what I've been able to discern. So far, it seems

1774
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:53.199
like it does a pretty good job of satirizing some

1775
01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:58.000
Christian cliches and Christian you know, camp culture without being

1776
01:35:58.039 --> 01:36:01.840
mean spirited. And that that's the tricky thing with satire

1777
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.239
is you can only poke fun at something I think

1778
01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:09.079
effectively in satire and have it work for everybody if

1779
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:12.000
at heart you understand it and you really kind of

1780
01:36:12.039 --> 01:36:16.760
love it. And when satire just is about taking down

1781
01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:20.279
it's intended target, it's no longer satire. It's just propaganda.

1782
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:24.319
And I don't have time for propaganda. But I think

1783
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:26.920
that this is a movie that's going to resonate with

1784
01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:29.760
some people. There's some suggestive content. It is PG thirteen.

1785
01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:32.920
So as always I would commend our full review at

1786
01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:35.960
plugged in dot com to your attention. But it might

1787
01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:37.720
be one worth checking out this weekend.

1788
01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:40.800
Okay, what about a couple of streaming choices. I'm looking

1789
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:43.479
at The Breadwinner? Is that worth it? Yeah?

1790
01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:47.279
You know, The Breadwinner is definitely worth it. That is

1791
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:52.960
a movie. Nate Bargatzi plays a dad who's his wife

1792
01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:57.359
ends up on I Believe Shark Tank and he's like, hey,

1793
01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:00.279
I can just stay at home and be a stay at.

1794
01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:04.159
Home Dad, and this will be easy. Yeah, it's not.

1795
01:37:04.399 --> 01:37:08.239
He finds out that what mom does effortlessly and with

1796
01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:12.359
all sorts of grace, he needs grace because it's.

1797
01:37:12.159 --> 01:37:16.199
Not effortless for him at all. So that one is

1798
01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:19.079
a fun movie. And then we've got Descendants Wicked Wonderland.

1799
01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:23.279
This is the latest fourth or fifth Descendants movie on

1800
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:26.439
Disney Plus. And these are these are movies that deal

1801
01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:29.760
with the question of do the children of Disney villains

1802
01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:32.680
have to be evil because their parents were evil? Which

1803
01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:35.960
is a super interesting premise. And I would say these

1804
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:41.319
movies haven't been too bad for the most part, but

1805
01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:45.279
I also think they've gotten a little bit formulaic. If

1806
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:50.640
you've seen any of the first couple, you know, I

1807
01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:53.920
don't think there's anything new here. And and ultimately we

1808
01:37:54.039 --> 01:37:58.119
get some of that Disney message about, you know, follow

1809
01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:00.199
your heart and what does the Bible say about at

1810
01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:04.279
your heart? Well, it says it's deceitfully wicked, So, you know,

1811
01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:07.720
sort of the core Disney ethos. If we want to

1812
01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:11.560
just set aside our romanticism, it runs smack dab into

1813
01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:13.760
truth in it and it stumbles right.

1814
01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:15.800
It may feel good, it.

1815
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:19.880
Tastes like cotton candy, but some things definitely to to

1816
01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:20.920
navigate here.

1817
01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:24.239
Well, it could be a conversation starter's you I think so, yeah, right,

1818
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:26.239
I think that's go ahead.

1819
01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:29.439
Well, I think Cocoa could be too, because you get,

1820
01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:33.800
you know, a Mexican culture that is sort of equal

1821
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:38.439
parts Catholicism and then a whole bunch of you know more.

1822
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:41.479
I'm not even sure how to characterize it, some of

1823
01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:42.520
those Aztec.

1824
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:45.439
Ideas, I'm not I'm not either, and believe me, I

1825
01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:50.039
grew up with some of it, so I understand, you

1826
01:38:50.119 --> 01:38:54.000
know why why you sometimes walk on eggshells a little

1827
01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:56.960
bit here. But but you know, yeah, I'm with you

1828
01:38:57.640 --> 01:38:58.279
know it plugged in.

1829
01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:01.119
We want to equip you to have the conversations. We

1830
01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:03.560
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1831
01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:06.319
to look at something and say that's not for us, right, Yes,

1832
01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:07.479
the content is.

1833
01:39:07.439 --> 01:39:08.359
Just to be on the payo.

1834
01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:10.199
But I think there are a lot of things that

1835
01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:13.479
there's space for really great conversations about. And I think

1836
01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:16.600
definitely the descendants and Coco and some of the other

1837
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:19.520
things that we've talked about could be in that.

1838
01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:21.359
You know that neckular.

1839
01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:24.680
Woods exactly, Well, that's a rap as they say, so

1840
01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:27.520
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Hey, Helloha, good morning. Welcome back, Bill, Martinez here, coming

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to you live from Lehina, Hawaii and on the other

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side of the country, have said Jenny Beth Martin, Jenny Beth,

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how are you.

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I am good.

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It's so good to be with you in Aloha to you.

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Welcome, Thank you very much. I always appreciate the aloha,

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warm welcome, and it is That's one thing that's been

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consistent about the Islands. This is the aloha spirit. They

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say here. If you don't have the aloha, then you

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shouldn't be here. I think that's a good qualifier there.

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But anyway, lots to catch up on. You know, this

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big lie that keeps pouring out from the left that

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people are listening to, but they're really not adding the

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numbers up. This Medicare for all things and what it

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would cost, and somehow they have in their minds that

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it's going to be free. I mean we've in a sense,

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we've kind of got a little preview of it with

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Obamacare and where we are with Obamacare, I mean, just

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for the sake of you know, the former president's name,

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we're paying for it and keeping on life support. And

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if you remember, Jenny Beth, remember Barack Obama said it's

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going to cover that thirty million donut hole of people

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that don't have health care insurance, that your healthcare would

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not go up, it could possibly even go down. You

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keep your same doctor. Everything he said about Obamacare was

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one big lie, and Joe Wilson didn't lie. He told

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us the truth, much to the disdain of the President

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and the Democrats. So he called him out for it.

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And so here we are, all these years later, and

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we know that Barack Obama Democrats lied and here they

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are lying again.

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Well, they are lying again. And back when we were

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fighting Obamacare, there was a study out that said that

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if you were on Obamacare, if you were on Medicare,

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your medical outcomes and your health outcomes were worse than

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if you'd had no insurance at all. I don't know

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if that has changed much or not, but it wouldn't

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surprise me if it had changed. It had not changed

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that much because when the government gets involved, they want

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to create a one size fits all system. And we

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saw during COVID that one size does not fit all.

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If you're healthy, if you don't.

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Have pre existing conditions, if you're exercising, if you're taking

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care of yourself, what the risk that you might have

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an illness is much different than the risk of somebody

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who is massively obese, or has diabetes, or has a

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long drawn out health history, or as an older person.

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So they're different, they're different, different things that have to

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be considered, which is why we always say protect the

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doctor patient relationship and make sure that doctors are helping

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you decide what's best for your own personal healthcare. Medicare

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for All will get rid of that and it'll just

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be one size fits all, and the one size is

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always the lowest common denominator.

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Well, who in Europe, because you're a basically same thing

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as single payer, who's having success in Europe?

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Well, in Europe they wind up having you can go

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get your own additional health insurance on top of it,

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because the state system is so slow, it takes months

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or years to get different kinds of procedures.

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That's not what we want.

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I have one of my very good friends, she found

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out just a few months ago that she had breast cancer,

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and within a few within a couple weeks of finding out,

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she was beginning her regiment with chemotherapy, and there was

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no long waiting line. It was take care of her immediately.

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That's the kind of healthcare Americans want. They want to

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know that when something happens to us it's devastating and catastrophic,

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that we are able to go get the care that

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we need, and that it's not going through a computer

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algorithm or the federal government to decide whether or not

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we actually need the care.

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Well, you know, in my personal story, dear friend, his

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daughter living in England gets a diagnosis of cancer and

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they said, get in line. It's going to be three

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year Jennybeth. Three years, Yeah, I mean by that time,

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God only knows how the cancer could have metastasized. Well,

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needless to say, he brought her home really quick and

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got her taken care of, which.

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Is very good.

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And that's what winds up happening oftentimes in Europe because

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they'll come to America, they'll go to another country, or

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they have paid for additional insurance.

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So that they can bypass the.

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Stat system, so that state system isn't actually taking care

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of people, and the people who have paid for extra

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health insurance are now paying twice. They're paying for a

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system they don't even use, any system that they prefer

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to use. And even with that system, they prefer to use.

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Oftentimes they're going overseas to get care.

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Right. And the thing is is the left will say,

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you know, like we're hearing famously out of New York

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and Mom Donnie, which is nothing new. Well, we're just

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going to go after the oligarchs. You know, we're going

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to have these billionaires and we're going to have them

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pay everything. Well, there's already studies been done said that

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if you want ahead, and this is according to the

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Washington Post, the editorial board noted that one hundred percent

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tax on billionaire, it took everything, took everything to fund

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our government. It would only fund it for thirteen months.

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And then where do you go?

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Right, Well, well, yeah, and then where do you go?

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Because you take everything from the billionaire, and then he

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has nothing left to continue to create jobs, to create,

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to innovate, to build his company, to hire more people.

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When he hires more people, and he's.

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Building his companies.

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Whether and I'm thinking of Elan Moscuz I say this,

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but it can be a man or a woman.

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It doesn't matter which they are creating. They're creating opportunities.

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So that those families are able to take care of

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their own children and provide for their children's education and

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clothing and extracurricular activities and savings for the future and

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college funds, so they're helping grow the economy. You take

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all of that away, and all those employees will wind

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up no longer having their jobs, no longer having their opportunities,

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and what you may get in benefit to the federal

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government for thirteen months or so, you are going to

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lose very very quickly for all the people who were

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working from the jobs created from those who own companies.

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Yeah, and Jeff Bezos even said as much here recently

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when he was asked directly about why doesn't he give

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more money? I mean, the audacity of people even asking

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that kind of a question without even, you know, doing

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any kind of research whatsoever and understanding how much Jeff

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Besos already gives and how generous he has been with

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the billions of dollars that he's generated over the lifetime

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of Amazon, and just said exactly what Elon must said,

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He's better off investing that money into his business for

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more jobs and more growth. But you see, when you

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have an entity like the Democratic Party which has become

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a party of big government, the one bigger government that's

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it that forget about capitalism, that's out the door. Their

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be all and want all is that governments should run

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every thing because in their peeny brains they believe Jenny

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Beth that they know better than everybody else.

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Yeah, they think that they do.

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And Bill, I always go back to the COVID example

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because I think it is the best example that we

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have of socialism in America and in some places, almost

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communism in America.

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But we saw what happened when.

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The people who work in the federal government thought they

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knew better and stayed in local governments. They knew better

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than business owners how to run the businesses. We have

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businesses that went under. We have severe recession that we

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have not come out of. We have massive inflation because

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they kept pouring more and more government money into it,

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and that government money harmed the wound up harming the economy,

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and we're still paying for it because of the inflation

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it created. And all these people in Washington when they

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shut down the government, they're like, oh, we have to

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protect everyone. Okay, I understand, I know what we're dealing with.

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It First, I can give you a couple of weeks

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grace period. But you're sitting in a congressional office. And

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if you've never actually opened a business, if you don't

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have people depending on you, if you've never had to

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make payroll, which means you've got to make sure all

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the money is coming into your checking account so you

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can pay the payrolls so people get their salary, plus

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all the taxes.

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That go along with that payroll. You don't understand.

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You can sit there and tinker the edges and think

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you're playing some game where you're just moving pieces around

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on a game board, but it doesn't work that way.

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It is much because you're actually it's more like building

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a building. There are pieces in place, it's not just

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moving things around on a board. And that's where the Democrat, socialists,

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the communists in our country, they don't understand what it

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takes to actually create a business, and they don't understand

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the benefits those businesses provide. And the government never can

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do it better than the private sector. And not only that,

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everywhere socialism and communism have been tried in.

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This world, they fail. It fails every single time.

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Well, when speaking of COVID, as we wrap things up here,

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Jennybeth Martin, again they lied to us. They flat out

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lied to us. They knew the information and because the

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Democrats don't care about the people, They only care about

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is power and control. Jenny Beth Martin with the Tea

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Party Patriots Jenny Beeth, how can they be in touch

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with you?

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Go to a tea Partypatriots dot org, Tea Party Patriots

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