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0:00 Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and our future. And now Bill Martinez. Hey, good morning America. Good to have you with us. Six minutes after the top of the our Bill Martinez here, coming to you live from Lahina, Hawaii and Maui and been having a great time with the grandkids and hey, just having a lot of fun. Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legalists with us. Mike. The other night we had a chance to go. They had the homecoming. It's been three years since the fires here in Lahina and bot It is a kind of bittersweet, you know, the people coming home and seeing how Lahina is coming about and being rebursed, so to speak. But you know, you can't help but feel the sadness and the weight of you know, over one hundred people dying in the fires, a lot of them kids. And you know what, twenty two hundred structures were burnt down, you know, lots of homes and that in over over two thousand acres.

1:11 You know, how is it is there a return to the status quota normal? I mean it was the most beautiful of the I had the opportunity to go to Lahina and Maui in the nineties decades ago. But I remember it just being paradise on Earth and really one of the most beautiful places on the planet and just amazing people, amazing restaurants, amazing everything. It was just an incredible place. And has there been some return to that or is it still? Can you still? It's slow, it's slow. It's slow, yeah, slow incoming. In fact, you know, one of the things that makes you sad is that particularly you know, one of the to me, the iconic pictures in Lahina is the Banyan Tree, the infamous Banyon tree that everybody would go through and it looks like a horror movie. Still three years later, it still hasn't it hasn't come back. It's it looks like it's been abused. And which is you know, the the island and this portion of the island has been abused, you know, by the fires and you know, not to get political, but there is you know, some political issues, you know kind of like you know Los Angeles and what they've been dealing with, and very slow, you know, government red tape, the typical stuff, you know, and the frustrating thing is that they had government officials here like in la where they didn't have water to put the fires out right because the reservoir was let to run dry.

2:40 You had an individual here in Lahaina that was in charge of the water and they see the waters being sacred and they turned the spicket off. They turned this. Yeah, I had no idea good board and resulting in twenty two hundred structures being burned down and dozens of people being killed. That's just insane. So I don't understand that. How about we're again you just heard about this. This is my best of my memory that there's certain certain people who had access to protection where their areas were safe, and then other areas were left to burn. I guess is that it as well. Well, I don't know if it was necessarily that the Bai will say this that our daughter's home in Kahoma Village was one of the few left standing. Uh you know it was, and it was because a neighbor who had water came into the area and poured a lot of water on their home and some others and saved the saved their structures. Houses on both sides of where she lives were burnt down.

3:45 I mean has she been rebuilt. Have they been rebuilt, Yeah. They've been They've been rebuilt in this in this particular area, they have been rebuilt. But you know, you've got industry, You've got you know, all the shops on Front Street that you remember, these shops have been open forever. You know, Mick Fleetwood's Restaurant, all that stuff, you know, Margueritaville, all this stuff. Duke's Downtown all gone and still gone, still gone, I mean, and so you just see, uh, you know some of the infrastructure, like I said, coming back. You know, God blessed them, you know, for having gone through all this. But the other night they had a homecoming where people are coming back to kind of see how it's come back because sadly, some people just just had to leave because you couldn't afford it, you know.

4:31 Yeah, It's one of those things. I mean, when you have these these disasters that occur Los Angeles, the wildfires, the hurricanes New Orleans or wherever, the flood, the hurricane in western North Carolina. I mean a lot of the same sort of thing, these disasters most of the time, a lot of the times, the regions are never the same. They're no there's ever changed and the people there are forever changed after that. So prayer still to the to the folks in Maui and Mahina and everything. That's just that's just a really sad situation. And it's interest saying how from our national discussion you just kind of move on and people don't think about these sorts of things, but yet how it affects the actual lives of our fellow citizens. It's just it's just tragic. Right exactly, And you know, my prayer just it's all happening in a situation people need to hold their governments accountable.

5:19 And you know, and this was some of the conversation there at the homecoming, and I'm just wondering, Okay, are do you you know, because this is a local this is a local issue. It's not necessarily a federal issue. A federal can do so much. But you know, like everything right now, you've got people that you know, they hate Trump so much that they want to blame Trump and going Trump that this wasn't Trump's doing, this was your doing. You voted, you elected these people into office. They're the ones that failed you. And you know, the Democratic Socialists are out of the closet and they want to have more control. And they've demonstrated time and again, whether it's in Lahina or whether it's in Los Angeles and other parts of our country, where they continue to fail the people because their answer is bigger government. They keep saying. Look, you know, they say, Mike, you know, if you just let us have bigger government, you know these problems would not exist. Well, you know that that doesn't even follow any kind of logic. If you can't be good in the small things, how can you be good in the big things.

6:24 It's amazing And as you said that, the veil is lifted and the guardrails are almost off at this point, the energy from the Democrat Party is all emanating from their radical DSA base at this point. Yeah, I don't see anybody having any kind of contra voice which would be trying to modulate moderate some of those elements. But it seems to me that those are the folks who are talking on behalf of the Democrat Party right now. I mean, you saw there's a speech that some individual was praising now from China. Are you crazy? I mean, you're talking about you're praising one of the individuals one of the great terrors orr. I mean great, but I mean largest horrifying persons of the twentieth century. And he's a good company, right, I mean, you're talking about a guy who is orchestrated the deaths of millions and millions of people, and yet he's receiving praise from Americans.

7:17 Are you? Are you? This is this is insane that these elements have been to have gotten to this point where now they are controlling the narrative in this major political party. So that that's awful. You're seeing that the New York City is kind of the test case the ridiculous statements on the part of the mayor. First of all, let's let's be very clear here. This is a mayor of a city. I understand, it's New York City, and it's the biggest city, one of our you know, quote unquote, one of our most our most important city in the country, blah blah blah, all of that. But he's a mayor, okay, and he has no power. He can't arrest Benjamin net and Yahoo who comes into the city of New York for some made up hague violation of world crimes. It's just absurd for him. But so but in some ways, I he's a a city, that's all he is. And it's like AOC.

8:02 She's a representative, she's one of hundreds and the and the and there. But they're the voices that are amplified. So we have to we have to take them at their word. If you want to. If you're saying that you're gonna arrest Benjamin Netanyahu, if you're gonna if you're gonna voices in your party are praising maw. If you're talking about removing any and all voting, any and all reasonable commtense measures to protect voting, in other words, allow non citizens to come in here and vote, then you are Then that's what you're stuck with. That's your party, that's who you are. And I think that's what we're seeing really, uh, the bit as I said before the bails lifted, they're making no they have no compunction of telling us exactly who they are and what they intend to do, should they when they get power, when they're in positions of power, and if they ever achieve any kind of national power.

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13:32 Michael Neil from Ladmark Legal continues with assigned Bill Martinez. And you know, speaking of you know, the crazy things that are coming out. I've always said, Michael that if you listen to the cons they always they self indict. You just have to listen to what they're saying. Right. Alyssa Slotkin said something last week that was extremely revealing. Like you said, the veil is back, it's off. You know, the contrasts are becoming more and more clear. And sheep pretty much said, look at we can't have the say backed because if we if the say that goes through, no Democrat will ever be elected. Ever that what she said, I tell you.

14:13 Let's unpack that. So what she's saying here if eighty eight eighty percent, and I've said this repeatedly, but even it's beginning to resonate. Now eighty percent of Americans think you should you should show vote or you should show identification to vote. Seventy four percent of African Americans, eighty ninety plus percent of Republicans, eighty plus percent of Democrats. Across all the demographics, Hispanics overwhelmingly majority believe you should show identification to vote. So showing ID identification to vote, according to at least Slotkin, is that you are not going to get you The Democrats aren't going to get elected identified removing non citizens from the voter rolls, it means Democrats aren't going to get elected. Requiring you to prove to establish that you're a citizen in the United States when you register to vote is going to result in Democrats not getting elect What does that say? That says that your entire election, that your entire political relevance, your entire political power base is all predicated on the fact that you have ineligible people voting for you.

15:12 You can you can cheat. What's going on you that you are you are relying, You're admitting that you are relying on cheating the process to get into the political positions you want to get into. And Okay, I mean then we'll take you fa We'll take your you know, I'll take your voice, I'll take your statements at face value. That means you're cheating to what you have to do. It's it's it's funny to me, Bill, how the left amplifies everything they they they pretend that this Save America Act will be the death knell. Oh maybe it will be the death knel of the Democrat Party. I don't know, but will be the death knel of fair and free elections. Again, requiring somebody to show identification is the deathnel to a free and fair election? Then okay, there.

15:55 You go, right. I mean, because it's demonstrated a time and time again throughout Europe and other countries that have tried this that you know had unfair you know, election processes. They've they've gone through it, you know, with the electronic machines and all this stuff. They've all experienced it. The data is there. We've done our own studies, you know, the Baker Carter discovery that they did back in the eighties. It was clear. But we ignored all that. And I don't want to hear from the Democrats anymore about our constitution they dishonor the constitution whenever you know, it comes up. They well, you know, Donald Trump and the Republicans are threatening our constitutional republic. Wait a minute, you're you know, in job one in terms of hearing the voice of the and the consent of the government, you are compromising and you're diluting the voices by cheating and ballot stuffing and allowing illegals to represent the governed.

16:57 Yeah, and a couple of things to unpacked. There is, first all to touch on the point you made about destroying our constitutional government, our constitutional structure. There were statements that were coming out this week about eliminating the United States Senate. So that was so anybody understanding if you want to because the Senate a sensible end or the auspice that you could have. You have two senators from California representing, however, tens of millions of people, and you also have two senators from Delaware representing however, fewer people. So that's not that's not fair, So that the Senate should be abolished. Okay, that's absurd. To abosh the Senate means you actually have to remove the constitution, because that's it's not you can't even do it by a constitutional amendment. It's part of the Constitution. So that's absurd, and they want to just they want to they want to undermine and just disassemble the Constitution as exists. Regarding voting, you saw what President Trump had said earlier this or I guess last week in his national address, he acknowledged and that the more they look into this, the more that you find that there are improper registrants on the voting roles.

17:55 In other words, non citizens are inevitably on the voting roles. He identified about two hundred and fifty thousand individuals in four states. So once you begin to look into this and unravel it, you begin to see what's going on with it regarding the lack of abilities and the lack of effort to identify and remove non citizens from ruterbals. Also, you're talking about China, you're talking about foreign interference and elections. The fact that you had hundreds of millions of our voter data that we've been compromised to the Chinese. You have acknowledgement that foreign and by the way, the Democrats were saying that the Russians were trying to interfere with our elections in twenty six. They shure ignored China altogether because. You're avoiding in China, so controlling algorithms also the vulnerabilities, and this is this isn't The crazy thing with all this built is that there is an easy solution to this.

18:37 It's like crime. There's an easy solution to crime. All you have to do is put away the people who commit the crimes. And guess what crime goes down? Just the percentage of people who commit crimes habitually, put them in prison, and you're going to have off, You're going to have random crime. Of course that's never going to be eliminated, but watch how you've solved the crime problem when you put the criminals in prison. Moreover, it's not rocket science. To secure are elections mail vote are no mail voting or mail voting in very very limited circumstances. I email you know your. Your infirmity exactly right. Paper ballots, so there's an actual physical requirement, not electronic, not physical paper ballots of evidence that you actually that you voted, Not electronics that can be hacked or can be open to any kind of system. I don't care how whatever secretary of state you want to get from our need state who says how secure their systems are No system is one hundred percent secure when it's electronic.

19:32 If you have paper ballots, then you you you remove the potential for hacking, and then also increases the confidence. If somebody fills out a paper ballot, they know that they filled out a paper ballot. They have that feeling that I voted, as opposed to pushing a button. You're like I pushed the button that goes into the cloud or the nether regions. There are a lot of people who don't operate, who you know, who aren't electronic natives, who haven't grown up. We want to feel the paper ballots, so that increases confidence. That's a good thing. So vote on election day and no laws and you know, make it a national holiday. Oh, I say, if you want to vote, you're right to vote. You're an American. You go vote on election day. Make it a national holiday. Fair exactly. Do not allow ballots to be counted after election day.

20:13 That's another thing. These are all easy, common sense solutions that everybody agrees on. The overwhelming majority as evidenced by the support for the same in America. That evidence of this that we all agree on, and you can you can dispense with, you can reduce this lack of confidence. So many I think of Americans have lost faith in the integrity of the electoral. System, or at least that at least that. That's horrible. To your point, in counting ballots, just so, if I can hit the pause button just a minute, interject this that in counting ballots. Here you got Florida, the entire state of Florida gets there. You know, they're counted. That night, it's done, You've got the results. California, what do we two weeks, three weeks after their their primary, they finally announced that the ballots we're all counted.

21:03 Three weeks post Okay, So, so imagine this hypothetical. This is this is important to develop for a second because Washington, the Supreme Court had an opportunity to cover these laws invalid and violent, and they passed that. They whiffed on that opportunity. The ballot counting post election. Imagine in twenty twenty eight, the presidential election hinges on Washington State's electoral votes. Just this is, this is not beyond the realm of plausibility. Again, maybe not, maybe probably not, but possible. Imagine that the country is whatever the electoral college county is so close that Washington State is dispositive. Washington State has counted their ballots for three weeks after election day, so the world, the country, the world is focusing on Washington State as they count ballots for three weeks. Do you understand the national and global horror show that that entails. So get rid of these This is absurd that these laws exist.

22:02 We can do this, It's not hard. Congress can start by passing the Save America Act. They've been lang this has been languishing. You have Lisa Murkowski, who is the Senator from Alaska, is bound to determine to block this. The Republicans in the House are trying everything they can to attach this to reconciliation bills, to other national security bills, everything they can do to get this piece of legislation through that the overwhelming majority of Americans agree on. And yet you have a couple senators standing pat not not getting on board with this. It is absolutely a travesty for our America, for America right now. Well, again, what we talked about the consent of the government. You know, this is sank or sanct yep that this has to be so honored and protected. This is foundational to this Democratic Republic, if we're going to continue for the next two hundred and fifty years.

22:53 Mike, Yeah, and this is our time. This is the You have the forces arrayed against you that are really contravening the will of the people. I keep going back to it and say, who are you to stand? This is the American people have overwhelmingly expressed their support in front of this legislation, and you are deciding that, oh, because a couple of one hundred people think that they might not be able to get to register to vote, or it might be difficult for them to get to a polling place. If it's difficult for you to get to a polling place on election day in Alaska and show identification, then we'll work with you. You know what I mean. The country we have that resources, vast resources. If there's a couple thousand people that are expressing concerns to Lisa Murkowski that are keeping her on the sidelines of this, then and that's and I am actually being I think magnanimous in ascribing her motivation to be that that she's actually looking out for her constituents. Let's assume that that's in good faith. It's not assume it's not something else. Let's assume that she's in good faith and has concerns for her constituents about their abilities to might undermine their ability to vote. Okay, well, we can work through that. We can get you the resources you need for Alaskans to do this, whatever it takes to get you on board to actually vote for this piece of legislation.

24:02 So it gets through. So we begin to repair the damage that we've done and restore the loss of faith, restore faith into this system, which is so important, which is actually the most important thing. If we don't have faith in our electoral system, everything else falls apart. And so we need to get this done. It needs to get through. There is still a small window. I hope, and I pray fever currently pray that this gets done. Although you know I'm the windows closing. Somebody's got to act. So amen. Mike O'Neil from Landmark Legal, Thank you, Michael, take care. Thanks Bill. Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it. You're spending more, you are making the same or less money. So what do you do.

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28:36 Hey, welcome back Bill Martinez here along with doctor Wilford Riley. He is the professor of political science at Kentucky State University. Will how you doing doing well? Doing well? What about you? Hey? Uh, doing wonderful. I'm in Alojaville still for a couple of more days. Been here with the family and the grandkids, so a lot of fun and you know, watching the rebuilding of Leahina after you know, the devastating fires in you know, twenty twenty three. It's still you feel the weight of people's hearts here and it's very difficult but inspiring all at the same time because hope is being restored here in Lahina. So I'm encouraged to see it, see some bright spots and rebuilding that's taking place, not as fast as we'd like to see, but you know, such are the wheels of you know, governmental regulations at times, right.

29:30 Yeah, I mean, well that's the crazy thing. I mean, if you've been out to Lahina, you've gone to the palace. I mean I was in southern California recently. Have you've gone up at the Palisades. I mean, the people are trying as hard as they can to rebuild it. I mean, they're supporting community members that are I mean people are still living in trailers, living in the back of their restaurants. The issue is that, I mean, it's being made extremely difficult. This is probably more true in California than in Hawaii. So hopefully all those people will get their houses back. You really do see kind of the glacial pace of change under modern regulation. I mean, obviously you don't necessarily want, you know, the old image of the construction workers sitting on the I beam coming out of the Empire State Building, but what we've replaced that with is an extremely ponderous process that moves like mammal evolution. So yeah, it's it's remarkable to see. But yeah, the people, the American people themselves are in good spirits ever i've traveled there.

30:23 Yeah, you know, you know, I was just talking about this the other day. You know, in the olden days, you know, we talked about the olden days before we were born. But you know, how communities would come together and make their neighbor's whole, you know, with barn raising. Remember you read about how people with barn rays and and I think that that spirit is still there. It's endemic to the American people, even though we're in the modern era and we've got to slush through you know, government regulations and environmentalism and all these other things that take place. And you know, I think the thing that whether it's La or even here in Hawaii, is the people are beginning to understand that who's forum and who's against them, And and it's not just you know, in some cases here, you know, I still hear some of the silly people talking, you know, we hate Trump and all that, and I say, okay, that's fine. You hate them, then you know, don't take your you know, then the tax on tips, you know, just let tax on tips just be there, and you know, pay your taxes on Social Security, whatever benefit this administration is given, just you know, because you hate Trump so bad, just give it back, you know. Oh, it's just it's just silly. But you know, it's unfortunate because it's it's a waste of time and a waste of energy, and it really doesn't help society at a time when I think we need to band together for the sake of all and and do something positive.

31:43 I think we're on the cusp of something, you know, rather spectacular, in the midst of everything going on with Iran and Ukraine and all that. I think from a holistic viewpoint, when you look at the potential of this country, I think Trump is right. I think he's spot on is that we we are on the verge of a golden era I believe for this country if we if we stay focused. Yeah, I mean you talk about barn raising, That's something people still do in rural Kentucky where the inspector is not going around to looking too closely for tobacco barns and things like that. I mean, and if you have. A simple structure like a tobacco barn, you just the leaves hang from the roof and they drive.

32:23 You don't have fifteen cattle pins in there. I mean, it takes a group of guys about a day, maybe two days to put one up. So you have to contrast that with what you actually see in a city where like La and San Francisco are the worst examples of this. But did you see that picture of the bus stop they built in San Francisco. Nob? Yeah, there in San Francisco they built a really nice bus stop. It's got like a homeless alco, which is not, you know, an additional necessary feature, but it's got lights in the bus stop and there's a sign that just says what street it's on. But this apparently costs four hundred thousand dollars and took a year and a half. And there's a famous picture on Twitter and Facebook of these public officials standing around this light bus stop and stoplight and like grinning and like cutting a ribbon. So when you go through all of the native lands reclamation stuff and environmental stuff and putting projects out to bid and so on, it's it's a totally different process. And to Tobeville, and he was wandering through America, actually commented on the first process. He said that Americans weren't really there was something new. He was just describing yeomen. He was a Frenchman, not Englishman, but like he said, they weren't peasants and they weren't lords. They were pretty good fighters, but that wasn't their primary job. So these sort of unique interesting people would often just get together and do work.

33:39 You wouldn't have to bit it out to the local guild or ask the count if you could do it. People would just walk down the street and they would help a new married couple build a house. And the expectation was not that you were just doing that for free. It was that when you had to build your house, there'd be fifty guys that would show up there and you have to make them a roast and some potat. They would they would help you. They would in exchange for bread and friendship, they would put your house together. So yeah, I think that instinct exists here. I think it exists in a number of Western countries. Actually, I've seen people do stuff like this in Canada and Mexico too, just on a much lower level. But the more you restrict it, the more the more you. Associate basic things with the professions. And I'm in one of the professions. I don't hate them all. But if you want to talk to your partner about a romantic lull, you go to a therapist with her. You know, if you want something done around your house, you call your lawyer and then your contractor.

34:33 There's a lot of this stuff. You want to pay for your driveway, you can just do it. I mean you can your dad touch out to do it. You can watch the YouTube video you go out there and get some concrete and you just do it and it's ninety five percent. Is good that that's something that's intension with the leadership right now. And I do think Trump, yeah, because he's worked on a lot of building projects. He'd just been the guy in a suit walking around down there. There is the idea of why don't you guys just do this. The problem is it's kind of hard to do that, Like in the Lahina situation. Trump's been pretty good. I mean, some people on the ground don't like him, some people like him, but I'm sure there's some policy about a pace at which construction has to take place in the sacred land of Aloha and so on. And we've in Hawaii, by the way, also has a lot of sort of weird laws based on that. We just saw the gun rights case when actually went to court and said the spirit of the Maori end of Aloha whatever prevents us from regulating firearms, and the Supreme Court across the left end the right just said no, you can't do that. You can't invoke like native gods and court or whatever. But yeah, there's a tension between the individual desire to do things and the massive amount of social order we now have where kids can't walk outside.

35:40 So that's problematic, right exactly. And the deal is is that we've made life so complex and complicated unnecessarily. And you know, you mentioned a de Tokoville, and I've been saying repeatedly, will because the World Cup coming to America. It's almost like we had, you know, thousands of the Toko bills come into the country again and remind us that, hey, you know, you hear the anecdotes of these Europeans. America's not that bad. You guy's got a great country. And they lied to us, you know, and so you know, the people are good here. We like it. You know. I thought, Wow, they're going back to Europe and they're gonna put a lot of pressure on their leadership, going, look at why can't we have air conditioning, Why can't we have ice? No, this is ridiculous. And you know, they've had I think a couple of does I think a couple dozen people at least maybe it's thousands. Maybe I missed. I think maybe the number was like twenty five thousand was people died because of the heat this summer in Europe. I mean, that's that's absurd.

36:45 Yeah, I think that Tom Soll writes about this where he says that there's a desire to be safe among people, and especially if you're talking about protecting women and kids. That's honorable, But you have to remember the old businessman's line that they're no solutions, there are only trade offs. So when you pass a bill that puts a vast diffuse cost on people to stop a specific thing. And I mean the example he gives of this is seat belts, which we'd find kind of mildly edgy, but you know, on planes now you have to wear a seat belt. And I mean his joke is, you know, if the plane is bouncing so badly, you're gonna a seat belt's gonna save you're you're in real trouble, Like you should invest more money in pilot training. But if you make everyone on the. Airplane where when it's they're non turbulent skies, two belts on them, you're requiring the cost of those on every single plane. You're requiring a separate seat for babies. You're doing all these things. How many lives have actually been saved in like Plane nine crashes by this and he.

37:41 And interviews these pilots and he finds out the answers like two. So for three billion dollars or whatever the all time cost is, you say two lives. And we do this a lot, and it adds this burden that no one even notices two things. But there's an incredible amount of cost of time. Again, in Kentucky, most people just repair their own houses and the mayor's fine with it. But if you actually went through every stage of permitting required to put gravel on your driveway, it would be quite a complex business. And so you're you're often left with these almost third world options of like do everything that's technically legally mandated, the project takes three years, just do it yourself. Run x level of legal risk. And the modern things we've been talking about, like flock cameras and so on, are probably going to intensify that.

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43:10 Well, part of it, if you've ever so. First of all, I have no respect for this guy's political ideology at all. But if you ever talk to Hassan, I mean, I think there was this like six to two Turk that plays pick up basketball and so on. A lot of it is just pretense, and I think a lot of guys, a lot of guys spend a lot of time curating sort of their rebel image. I like James O'Keefe a lot, for example, the underground journalist, but I mean he does the reporter thing with the notepad, the leather jackets. I mean he is on our side and his image I think is basically positive. But Hassan is very much that sort of. Thing times three, where he'll he's known for wearing cardier for example, like the gold rimmed glasses that cost ten thousand dollars while identifying as a communist, so politely, I think a lot of it's just bs, but the actual there is a dangerous reality under that, Like the guy may be funny, but his whole presentation is I am a communist radical.

44:05 And for a long time. That would have gotten you maybe beaten up, certainly laughed out of most arenas. It's now becoming extremely popular on the young left. So I mean, you noticed that Hassan was speaking at the College Democrats. It wasn't the DSSA. It wasn't some fringe organization. It was like the rivals of our young Republicans who are also normally are wearing their ill fitting suits and campaigning for you know, Raphael Warnock. So there's a swing to the there's actually a swing in both directions. I mean, there's a swing to the right of Trump that's known as the Graper movement, and then there's a swing over here, which is even crazier, to the very far left, where you've got candidates like Chevalier the hopefully.

44:48 They have all this in the right order. But like bisexual communist Haitian you know, immigrant advocate who said that white women are ugly colonizers and there's a lot of. A approval of that right now. Hassan, Yeah, basically Hassan is an extreme example of this trend. Like he's a self professed communist or socialist who walks around wearing designer clothes and says things like my favorite flag is hesblah. How seriously you take the Act is up to you. But the popularity of the ACT is troubling, and a lot of kids seem to like him right now. Yeah, I mean it's putting you know, a bad and I see it as a dangerous narrative, an acceptance of, you know, something that's so insane. It's like, wait a minute, you know, you young people, are you really that silly to think that you you're going to give some sort of honor and glory to Son Piker, representing one of the most historical notorious mass murders ever. I mean, how danger is this dangerous? Or are we just being silly? Yeah?

45:56 No, of course it is to be very blunt here, like people should react to the Communist tammer and sickle a way we react to a Nazi swastika or worse exactly, Like the Communists were a long term We fought the Nazis for six years. The Communists were a long term opponent of the USA. We traded blows them throughout the entire Cold War. The Communists were behind the Korean War, at the Vietnam War in their own countries. I mean, Mao killed so many people that you can see it as a dip in the human population, which increases steadily as India, Mexico, Indonesia, so on industrialized, then drops. By like one hundred million. That's chairman mau So that's who Mao actually was. I mean, Mao is the great leap forward when they went to the Buddhist monasteries and Christian churches and burned the books, when people were intentionally forced into cannibalism because the rice harvest was destroyed the entire regions of the country.

46:47 So yeah, I mean present and then of course you're at Lenin, Stalin Trotsky. I mean, so these were the worst regimes in recent history, the worst regimes in history until you go back to tamer Lane. So yeah, I think that appealing to this is bad in an empirical moral sense, but more the idea that people don't know that and they think that these people are sort of the cool figures on shirts is troubling. You can buy a Shade Gavar or Chairman mouch Well Chay's shirt and mout jacket, I guess in your local Spencer's. Gifts, right, And you know, and here you see the momentum of the left that you know is attracting these young people in record numbers. And you know, I'm saying danger.

47:33 Will Robinson, you know, we we've got we got problems here in River City with these young people you know, going along and of course, the mainstream media is seems to be fueling the flame. There's there's no objective reporting on what they're doing. I mean, you know, you've got the Mayor of New York who's uh, you know, just adding levels of insanity to his leadership and threatening to uh arrest the Prime Minister of Israel. Yeah, I mean, I think the Mayor of New York. Yeah, I'm not making any threats, so it might not be around for that long if he started arresting the Prime Minister of Israel or the leaders of the Arab states.

48:13 There something you're really getting kind of too big for your pants there, I don't. I think mister Netanyahu would probably be broken out of confinement and Rikers Island and then there'd be an international missive delivered to you. Know, mom Donnie's desk. But yeah, he's made some of those claims that the Israeli PM as a war criminal, and he's. Not welcome in New York. Donnie has said obviously, Mom Donnie is sort of a for deserved reasons, hate figure on the right, and he said a lot of things like this, like he's going to nationalize the bus lines or he's going to put them under city control and have the ridership Phoebe zero dollars. He's going to open up stores that give away food rather than selling it. How much of this is actually done remains to be seen, but yeah, he's He's another example of the trend toward the hard DSA left. Actually, three of the candidates that won on the DSA.

49:05 In person of the DEM ticket. We're in New York. We're back by mom Donnie. It remains to be seen how applicable that model is to the rest of the country, Like there actually are a large rich city now like Jacksonville and so on. I don't think you're going to see communist mayors there, but it's you know, one communist mayor is enough, but zero communist mayors is probably the appropriate number. Yeah, we've got a few now. Well, it's going to be interesting because when you you know, you read some of this polling and I don't buy into some of it. To me, it's I just you know, these pollsters early on, they seem to put their elbow on the scales all the time, and then when we get close to it, then the real number comes up. But yet they're projecting, you know, a Democratic landslide at this point, and you know, and just even if you play it out and say, okay, if the Democrats were to gain power and take over the House and the Senate conceivably, of what kind of revolt would be taking place because you've got the hard left that's really just got a stranglehold on the Democratic Party if they were in power. I mean, you talk about, you know, shootings within the tenth you know, I think there'd be a circular uh, you know, fire squad that would be taking place within the Democratic Party if that was to happen.

50:30 Yeah, I mean, so I don't I don't really think them. So I don't think the Democrats are going to win in a landslide. I'm not sure the Democrats are going to win both houses actually, because I've looked at the professional numbers on approval of both parties. I do that about once a week. Right, Trump is definitely a polarizing figure. People on the right like him, think he's getting things done. People on the left hate him and view him as the devil. But the Democrats are non and are not polarizing. They're just extremely unpopular. People on the right think they're currently being taken over by their radical fringe, and people on the left either think they they're at risk of losing to their radical fringe, or they're on the radical fringe and they don't like the mainstream Democratic Party.

51:11 So the Democrats are. Polling it something like twenty two percent. They're seventeen percent behind Trump in the latest ratings I saw. So I don't think that party is going to sweep in and take over. You're absolutely right. I mean, like a lot of high IQ layman or commentators, you're looking at that clash in the party. I don't think it's going to be an automatic, easy win for the DSA types, partly because they're weed smoking communists with an average age of thirty. I don't know if they're going to really get in. There against the Pelosis, the Fetterman's, the war Knox and win. But the question is the question is will the Democrats embrace a left leaning but American ideal, which is what their platform was until about ten years ago, maybe and put.

51:52 Fetterman Warnock, a lot of the black and Hispanic bosses from the South, frankly Big Jim Cliveborne's up there and say well, this is what we are. We favor healthcare, but we obviously, we support veterans, we want this policy for returning military service people. What they used to say or are they going to I don't want to ramble on for ten minutes, but I read the recent DSA platform they adopted at their latest convention, and it reads like someone run like the popular kid running for student council, right, like I'm going to give you ice cream every. Day, right exactly. Like the line number. Three is unlimited free abortion, which is not only a horrible thing, but like unlimited, how many need it free? It's all stuff like that, Like line number two is eliminate all bills forever.

52:36 So one of the major political parties, which used to represent the great unions, the UAW and all that, they have to decide do we still do that or are we pursuing unlimited free abortion? And I don't think number two is going to be a winner. And whole states like Texas along any demographic. Lines, yeah, but you know and will. But here it is, you are one of like no one else reporting on this. Where's the mainstream media talking about this? Well? I think the mainstream media. Well, first of all, the mainstream media leads extremely far left. It's very hard to get them to consider these stories, and when they do, there's always this gloss of If you've ever read the famous Harper's letter that those academics signed during peak Woke censorship, it opens with a paragraph about Trump like, well, of course we acknowledge that the right has historically even more of a record of suppressing free speech. Goes on for two hundred words, and then they say, but the problem now is US. So mainstream media coverage of these stories is always written in that fashion.

53:37 I do think that they understand some of the threat from the DSA wing, and the problem with the DSA wing is that nobody actually likes their ideas. So I've told you before that I did a large in survey of people's attitudes toward transgenderism once, and this is actually pretty well done. I mean, you began with the social media stuff, but you had an anonymous lake in there, and I ask people if they believe that some women have let's say, male characteristics. And I expected this to be about thirty percent. Yeah, you know, everyone a lot of people's feminist girlfriend around my page, even it's a mostly male audience. It was two percent, yes, almost no one when they really went through the anonymity of Okay, here's the Twitter and Facebook poll, but here's the survey link.

54:19 I know this is going to a standard database. This guy's pretty reputable. No one actually thought that some women have penises, so it was just it's all And I mean, everyone laughs when they see that because it's such a stupid idea, But that was the official narrative, right like I'm just a little trans girl, and nobody believed that. I don't think anyone believes that at the current level of technological development, you can eliminate. All bills forever. So the question is will people have the aggression to stand up and say no, this is stupid, despite a whole bunch of communists screaming at them. That's that's the worry. That's the question. Well, the sooner better will it is what I'm saying, and we got to leave it there for now. Doctor Wilford Riley, a professor of political science at Kentucky State University.

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56:17 Getting America back on track. Bill Martinez Live. Hey, good morning, America. Good to have you with us. Six minutes after top the hour, Aloha from Lahina A White and Maui. I'm here for a couple of more days. Been having a great time with the grandkids, and you know the Aloha here in Lahina, especially after three years since the fire has got you know, the people are you know, coming back, just like the island and this particular area that was so devastated by that incredible wildfire that I said wildfire, you know that was you know, exacerbated by a hurricane that hit the island at the same time and just wiped out this area. And I was sharing with somebody else earlier. One of the iconic landmarks here in Lahina specifically is the Banyan Tree, and the Banyan Tree I think is representative of where Line is right now. It's still it looks like it's still crying.

57:16 It looks like it's out of a horror movie. Still where it isn't fully recovered, but you're starting to see, you know, the leaves growing and as you're starting to see some construction and you know, some optimism you know rising up here out of what they are referring to as Lahina is strong because the people are very strong in coming back after you know the loss of you know, humanity. Over two hundred people died in the fire, some twenty two hundred structures were burnt down. I mean, it's just devastating what happened back on August the eighth of twenty three. I know.

57:57 Yeah, so, well, thanks for getting me. Up to date. Yeah, so that's kind of a quick wrap on it. But you know, and there's been some great updates. There's you know, a podcaster who's been doing some you know drone coverage of the build the rebuilding of the Lahaina And this week, this past weekend, they had a homecoming welcoming people back to see you know, how things have have progressed since you know, that devastating fire back in August of twenty three. And you know, it was an encouraging celebration, you know, for the people. Your mind had gone together. So it's very sweet. So we've been you know, welcomed again as always, you know here in Lahina. We've been coming here for a number of years. And of course we have a special affection because our daughter is here along with two of our grandkids. And then and then I have two additional grand kids that are in Oahu, not too far away. I was hoping to see them, but we may not have a chance to see them this time. I have to wait probably till either the next time because they're going to school in Oahu and so either next time we come back to the island or maybe we'll catch up with them in in California along with the other grandkids that are you know, in growing numbers there in California, believe it or not. But anyway, hey, look at that aside. Lots to talk about here, you know, in our country with what we're dealing with, the great celebration the World Cup. I think the World Cup was a shot in the arm for a lot of America's citizens that realized, you know, through the eyes of the

59:29 Europeans that you know, America is a great country and uh and we're loaded with good people. You know. It's like, you know, you and I were talking the last time, it was like all of a sudden, we had all these Detokavill's coming into the country, you know, and reminding us of just how how great this country is. Absolutely absolutely, you know we we the media so often, you know, presents the negative of you know, news is driven by negative information, and that that can dishearten American people into thinking that the picture that's portrayed in the media is really how America is and it's really it's really not that way. It's made up of wonderful people for the most part, exactly, but the news will chase after the bad, the bad guys, and emphasize what's bad.

1:00:20 So, Scott, it begs the question. We got reminded by the Europeans that you Americans need to be more grateful for the goodness. That you have, exactly. You know, it begs the question, Scott, is what's wrong with us that we are? So we're more attuned to the negative than the positive? You know it it's you know, they talk about the how how the negative you know it is what bleeds and what bleeds in the headlines and you know that sort of thing that's saying in journalism. And and we seem to be so attracted to all this negativity at the expense of the good, as you say, the majority of the American people, and we continue to consume that and tell the media we want more of this ugly stuff of what's wrong with us?

1:01:13 That's a very big and long topic. But uh, you know, I've been a critic of the media for a long time, and you know, we're we we have. Let's hope that. The changes that we're going through in our country are not just political changes, but they are cultural changes. And culture is driven by what people believe and how they prioritize their their time. And so you know, America is in great need of a of a cultural or spiritual revival.

1:01:59 Without a doubt, that a doubt. So you know, I. Argued years ago that you know, we had to go through this bad period of Biden and COVID and so forth. Uh, that God allowed that to happen to us in order that we could bottom out as a you know, as a people and turn to the light, if you will, turn to the truth, turned to what's good and beautiful. And uh, and that's really what you know, that that turning is a spiritual thing. And and God wants us to make that turning, but he can't force us to do it. We have to choose to do it.

1:02:41 Yeah, you know, you're exactly right. But to get entrenched interests in the status quo. And that's true in politics, it's true in the media. They can't really reform themselves because they're they're sort of captured by the way things the way they do business, the way they look at the world. They can't really change easily. So you know, we got to pray that, you know, God shows us the way to bring about this change because it's desperately needed. Well, you said something that was so critical, and that is that we've lost our compass, our north compass to the truth by turning our back on God. God is the source of truth. And this cultural revolution has been going on for decades, not just a decade. It's been going on for decades. It's been a casual and determined progression.

1:03:36 And you keep thinking, at least I do, anyway, Scott, is that how much worse does it have to get? When are you going to get out of your perceptions that have influenced, you know, your worldview and your behavior that has been deleterious to your very lives and the lives of your family members. Well, I agree. I couldn't agree more so. But you know, oftentimes the way God works is through, you know, through in a big country like America, I think we have to expect that God will work through pockets, He'll his presence will be better known in communities, in areas. And the founders were very wise, you know in this idea that America would be would benefit from having competition between states, that you could almost do experimentation in these in these states, and of course they didn't envision that we'd have fifty of them. But we have fifty states that are all in a way unique.

1:04:54 Places, and they're laboratories, you know exactly. I was looking for that word laboratory. And so when we looked at California, we see what we don't want. Yeah, we looked to New York, we see what we don't want. When we look to Florida and Texas and Tennessee and the Dakotas and Wyoming, Montana. I just got back from being in Wyoming in Montana. You know, Scott, Hey, let's go to quick break. I want to hear more about that. On the other side, we got more from Scott Powell after this stay with US. Instant Coals Cash is powerful. You spend twenty five dollars and earned ten dollars Coals cash to use instantly. I'm nearly everything store wide. So now you're grabbing new shoes and nodding at your receipt like you negotiated the deal plus Coles rewards.

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1:11:25 are you know, foundational, that are buttresses to this great American experiment. Wouldn't you say. Absolutely, Yeah. Let's take a major development that's fairly new in America, the transgender movement. Where would the transgender movement be or would it have gotten any legs at all if it hadn't had any media coverage. Right, Chances are it wouldn't. It would not have developed and sort of enveloped the culture as it has, which gives it legitimization. You know, we know and common sense tells us that, you know, there's only two sexes. There's men and there's women, boys and girls, and there's nothing there's no place for this concept that gender is fluid. It is not fluid.

1:12:20 What is wrong with us, Scott that we're so easily duped to accept something that defies common sense like this that I mean to the point that we would have a Supreme Court justice that could not define a woman. I mean, this is like it's disqualifying, no, but we say no, it's okay for you know, for the sake of diversity. You know that we will. We're so open minded, like my mentor you say, you know, Bill, you could be so open minded your brains have fallout. And and this is you know where America is is that we've been so open minded about these things that are you know that they're just ridiculous. You know, it's like you're waiting for some little kid to come out of the crowd to say, no, hey, the king is naked. The King is not wearing clothes here, right, It's that obvious.

1:13:16 Well, I think there's been a concerted effort by you know, by the left. We could trace it back to Antonio Gramci and the Frankfurt School and and and more. Modern leftists recognize that the cultural revolution is facilitated by advancing collectivist thinking group think, group think. Think about how group think just dominates so much so if you can, if once you have if you if once you have sort of a cultural acceptance of group think, then you can then you can inject anything into the group think and it can get legs.

1:14:03 Right. Yeah. And the thing is is that when you're talking group think, you're not talking a majority of people. You're just talking just like you said earlier, that there's a magnification of a minority number of people. In much the same way as Germany. Not everybody was a Nazi. You know, maybe ten percent, right, but that ten percent was very loud in Michigan, for example, with the Somalis. You know, you got eighty thousand plus Somalis there that own Michigan, I mean Minnesota. I'm sorry that own Minnesota. Is that insane, Scott, It's absolutely insane. And maybe maybe we're we were coming to a reckoning on that. I'm I'm sure hoping that that we're going to see reckoning through enforcement of the law. Really, you know, Trump has people around him that are very serious to you know, to bring justice back to America, and it's going to start with enforcing the law against the elites.

1:15:09 These are elected officials who've broken the law, who facilitated all this exact you have to think of, you know, I mean, we always have to approach everything with common sense. How can it be. That Governor Waltz could. Not know that all this corruption was going on, and that other people in his administration didn't know. Of course they knew. And politicians, you know, they don't do they they're driven by their interests. And I dare say that a lot of people have been paid in political paid places. They've participated in the corruption. They're getting some kind of kickbacks.

1:15:54 It's the same with their foreign aid. You know, why do we know, why do congressmen, why why do congressional people support you know, more aid to the most one of the most corrupt countries in the world, Ukraine. Why because there must be kickbacks coming to America. I believe that no, there's no, there's no question that that the big is is the name of the game, and it's it goes back into the politician's back pockets, you know, for them to get re elected. That's what goes on. I mean, why are they freaking out when Trump comes in and and you know, and Elon Musk comes in talks about all this fraud and corruption that's going on, and uh, you know, you you start putting a spotlight on billions of dollars there in uh you know, in Minnesota. Uh, and millions of dollars going out and TSA officials are going, hello, you know we're we're saying bundles of cash going out of the country. Uh do you need to be concerned about that? Oh no, no, no, there's nothing there to see. Just just go on and you know, business as usual? Are you are you kidding me?

1:17:01 And you know, look and to me, one of the biggest effects. Look, look what happened when NSAID was shut down, Scott, how much howling took place on that issue? Oh? Absolutely right. I mean the politicians were grieving. They were in the fetal position in the corner thinking, oh my god, how am I going to get re elected for the exact point that you just made earlier. Right, right, right, And that's why we need a cleaning of the House. I mean, if we didn't, if these networks of corruption which extend into voting of a vote, fraud is a reality. The left will deny it, but common sense Americans have known we've had election irregularity. I mean it was clearly shown in the twenty twenty election.

1:17:54 Well let's go back to JFK. Yeah, okay, it didn't get for cheating, right right, which now the Democrats admit that that's what happened in Illinois and going, wait a minute, you got to be kidding me. You guys are so brazen that you talk about and then you have, you know, the senator from Michigan that came out and said the truth out loud. I don't even know she was even paying attention to what she was saying. But I always say, this is the thing about people that cheat and lie, they self indict. You just listen to them. Right, And she says, look, you can't pass the Save Act. If we have the Save Act, a Democrat will never get elected again if you pass the Save Act. She's saying, you know what, she's saying is that if you don't allow Democrats to cheat, we can't get elected.

1:18:43 That's right, that is true. That's a true statement. Any of them cannot get elected. The party today is not the party of Harry Truman and years gone by. It is a radical party that has that has offended a lot of people, you know, you know, the traditional Democrats. They don't have a place in the party. So the party's actually shrunk in size because they. Talk about a big tent, but the DSA is tightening up, you know, the tent pegs. So I think they're delusional in talking about a big ten thirty seconds left, Scott, I'll let you wrap it up. Go ahead.

1:19:27 Well, I think we have to be very optimistic that that things are coming. You know, the wheels of justice turned very slowly. And when you're talking about prosecutions, they really want to build a bulletproof case before they prosecute. They've got to win. They've got to be sure that they can win the case. So for all of your audience that is wondering, well, where are the prosecution we were we voted for Donald Trump because we thought we would get a you know, know, a restoration of equal justice under the law, I mean, which is a very important, very important too to freedom. I mean, I think it was one of our great founding presidents who said that there's no there's no freedom without justice. Yeah, I think I think it may have been you know, Hamilton or Madison.

1:20:23 Uh. And there's a lot of truth to that. We you know, they go together, and we've really had an erosion of justice. And so. One of Trump's important missions is. To correct that. And I think that there there's a lot of cases that are being built right now, and I think it will be it could be so shocking that you know, buckle up, because I think it could affect the financial markets, if you know, if but. On the other side of it, Scott all of a sudden, you know, but. We have to do it because of the other side. We're trying to get to the other side.

1:21:04 So exactly like you'll, you'll have found foundational credibility and restoration, which is what we all want. And and and you say, the corruption is so deep it runs through the judiciary. And what we're seeing again the contrast is clear, is that Trump brings up these things and exposes whether we're talking doctor Fauci and everything that happened in COVID, what's happening with the education system, what's happening economically on so many levels, you know, regarding tariffs and all this, and the uh, the intervention of activist judges, uh, and how they've come in and violated I believe constitutional you know, predicate and foundational issues. UH. You know, these are the wars that we're battling against. It's not a simple fight.

1:21:52 No, it's not a simple fight. In some of my writings, I always I've encouraged the audience, UH, and and our politic, the leaders, and Donald Trump to take a look at Andrew Jackson. What he did. He rolled back the Central Bank. He evicted Indians from territories in Georgia. He relocated them against a Supreme Court decision that ordered him not to do it. And what did hepose? His response, Well, I have the power to do it. I'm doing it. What power do you have to stop me? Right? The Supreme Court has no.

1:22:32 Army, there's no power. So Trump needs to, I think, be willing to do courageous things against the legal system because he's the ultimate enforcer of the law. Exactly. Well, we'll see how this plays out. Scott Powell. As always, we appreciate the insight. He's the author, member of the Committee on the Present Danger China, and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Doctor Scott Powell, Thank you, Scott, take care of you. You will make very good Thank you. Everything is expensive right now, gas, food, you name it. You're spending more, you are making the same or less money. So what do you do? You rack up credit card debt. That's what you do.

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1:27:26 In Hawaii. What a lovely place to spend part of your summer. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's a great time here with the family and the kids. It's been a long time coming. It's been a couple of years, but it's great to see him, you know, in a couple of years. And these kids grow up so quick deroy as you know. I mean the last time they were here, I was taking them out golfing, and I mean, you know, in their typical Hawaiian kids. I mean they're in the water all the time and body boarding, you know, surfing and all that kind of stuff. It's just amazing. It's just such a delight, you know, as sharing with somebody else. Know when when you're around your your kids and grandkids and you have moments like this, you just say, God, you know what I could I could go right now and feel very fulfilled and satisfied.

1:28:11 Well, you know, church Moy, you can because, as you know, these moments to go by quickly and then we can get older. And one thing I found interesting about I mean children, my friends who do they're gigantic. I don't know if kids are if they're drinking more milk or there's something to water supply. But I have a lot of friends, like college friends are about my height and their kids and women are all oftent taller than I am, and guys are like seven feet tall. I mean you could, you know, like Baron Trump. I mean that guy's almost like, oh myn up, the NBA six six nine. Yeah, it's crazy. So you know we're going to be a species of giants very soon. Well I guess I don't know what's in the water, but I'm with you. I agree. Look at a lot of catch up on since you and I last talked, And of course the big surprise over the weekend was the passing of Lindsey Graham. You knew him, right, I mean you never met the man.

1:28:58 I mean I saw him on No, I had not. I saw him on TV and then you know, all sorts of political contexts for many years, and I know, certainly working at Fox News News on screen all the time, He's on Hannity, he'd be on Jessin Waters, he would be on our weekend shows. The guy was an excellent spokesman for generally our side most of the time and was definitely out there making the case, making the argument, talking in simple ways that regular folks could understand. And it was one of the great advocates for you know, for most of the mega and America First and Trump agenda and what a shock when I was actually and in the newsroom on Saturday night Sunday morning about two am or so, and a couple of colleagues might say, hey, Lindsay Graham just died, Oh my god, And I said really, I said, yep, you don't know what happened. Eventually we learned it was a torn a orda and with a ripta orda. I mean, there's no an amount of CPR that's going to be bringing back from that, unfortunately. But I think, yeah, everyone liked dislike Lindsay Graham left me, right.

1:29:56 I think the main emotion was shock, Oh my god, I can't believe this guy left in went so quickly, right. And the thing is is that you know, for all that he did and try to do in terms of crossing the aisle and trying to, you know, make the Senate work, even when he was in the minority, he has been one of those fundamental and consistent players to try to find middle ground. And but the left, of course, the radical left there, so you know of the off the Richter scale here that you know, they're talking of him like as if he was Hitler incarnate, you know. Yeah, And you know I've seen some of these nasty comments they made about him, and the didn't even wait until the guy was in the bury the ground. The attacks started a couple hours after he was after he died, and they're calling them all sorts of names and saying it was a warmonger and all this sort of thing.

1:30:44 And you think they either could be quiet for a day or two or you know, try to find something gracious to say about him, like, okay, well I didn't agree with him, but he was a very good advocate for his cause. That sort of thing. No, this instant acrimony, instant bitterness, and this is the difference between the left and the right. People and right either find something positive to say about somebody or you know, keep your big mouth shut. And the people on the left just started with the uh, you know, the incoming you know, while the guy was still you know, probably in the hospital waiting to be taken a medical examiner. It's just truly disgraceful, unfortunately, very typical of the left today. Well, of course, you know, as a supporter of Israel, that's a pox on him right away. And he defended that, he defended Brett Kavanaugh, uh, you know, in the uh, in the hearings, the confirmation hearings. Uh and and said very plainly that the Democrats were more interested in power and control and that, in so many words, he wished that they did not ever attain it.

1:31:43 Uh. Yeah, well, I think one of his great moments was during the whole Kavanaugh circus when he came out and said that people who were attacking him were completely unfair, that they were making up this whole story about this one blazy Ford claiming that he had molested her, raped her back when they were in high school. This woman couldn't name the location, she couldn't name the date. I don't think she could name the month. And then she said, well, you know, when it was all left, she all done, she left the party, and you know, basically Ubert at home, a cabin at home, not apparently not a lot of cabs cruising around that part of Maryland. I guess where they grew up. Her story didn't hold any water. And yet the Democrats were running around as if Kavanaugh or some sort of a serial rapist, and Graham had had it.

1:32:27 He just let him have it. It, just attacked them in the Judiciary committee room. It was the most effective and sort of robust engagement or statement or anything I've intervention, is know what I'm looking for that I've ever heard from Lindsay Graham. And a lot of people looked like, wow, where did that guy come from? And he really blossomed. He was very much attached to the hip to John McCain, who passed away I think was around twenty fourteen ash or so. And after that, I think he really came into his own even more so, especially at the time of the Kabinaugh ares right exactly. And and the thing is also in you know, relationship to the Kavanaugh hearings, is that uh you know, Lindsey uh, you know, believed Kavanaugh. I mean, his story was so credible.

1:33:15 I mean, talk about picking the wrong guy. I mean, here's a guy that had calendars, you know it all the way back when he was in school and you know kind of deal and and here Blazey Ford is putting up this hollow story that could hold no water. And it was clear. And I thought the Republicans did a great job in interviewing her, you know, not by the you know, each senator, but they had a proxy come in and do the interviews you'll recall, and it was a woman, and uh, you know you could tell that Blazi Ford was you know that her, you know her you know, indictments or her accusations were so hollow. And then of course she had said she had nothing to do with anything with you know, birth control or the abortion issue and all that, and then you find out later she works for an abortifation company.

1:34:08 How about that? Isn't that interesting? Yeah? And there were no consequences for her. I mean, it was very clear to me that she was just going to bring it exactly either made this stuff up or imagined it or hallocin into it, and no, no repercussions, no consequences, no anything. This woman just got away with I think, just basically come up with totally fake charges and nothing happened. A lot of that happens, unfortunately a lot of these accusers. Like in the Ducal Cross case, this woman who was in Rolling Stone saying she'd been raped at UVA, that story didn't hold it all. She was saying that she escaped, ran down a fire escape at the frat house. Well there's no fire escape at the frat house. That doesn't exist. And she said all that somebody apparently, I guess broke a coffee table. There was broken glass all over the place, and these fraternity brothers raped her on top of broken glass, And who does that? So that the story didn't hold up? And then I guess it turned out that she made it up.

1:34:59 And I don't think anything ever happened to her. These people just, oh, well, whatever, it's cool, I have a good day by. Look at the impact. Look at the impact on these young men in their lives and their education. I think I think immediately they were suspended some maybe and expel that. I don't remember the exact details, but I remember it was horrendous, especially after it was all said and done, that she was, you know, she'd made the story up very much so. And in the case of the Duke lacrosse players, I know somebody who tangential link at the friend of a friend of a friend kind of thing. And my understanding is one of these guys moved back to New York and was so distraught about this that he just crawled in a bottle and just developed a really bad alcohol problem because he was so heartbroken and did nothing wrong and was just looked down upon by everyone who saw him as some kind of a rapist when nothing like that happened. And apparently the guy either you know, started drinking or kept drinking and didn't stop. So this is the kind of thing that can happen to people when they're put in these horrible situations when they do nothing wrong, they don't engage in any in approb read activity, and people make stuff up and they never you know, they're never able to scrub the taint off of them for things in which they never engage, which is grotesquely unfair.

1:36:10 Yeah, the oh, the thing is in closing out this segment here, I just wanted to go back on Lindsey Graham. My wife was telling me that Lindsey Graham, when they checked his finances, he had a I don't even think two million dollars. This is somebody who had been in Congress in the Senate all these years, and unlike so many of these other elected officials who leave or die with a bank account that a choke a horse, Lindsay Graham had a little over a million dollars. Are you kidding me? Well, I guess that tells us that, you know, like the guy or not, he wasn't a thief. You know, you're right about these people who come in, you know, the Obama is a great example. They came in with basically nothing. I think some income from his books, and I think they're worth a quarter of a billion dollars now million, two hundred f. Nancy Pelosi, of course, is the poster girl for this thing. She's I guess, making what one hundred and eighty two hundred thousand dollars as the former Speaker of the House, and she's got what is it, five residences, she's got one or two vineyards, living really Highla Hog.

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1:41:17 We're talking with the New York based, Manhattan based Fox News contributor de Roy Murdoch. Deroy, you know you and I've been chewing on this forever, it seems, and here we are. It's the song that will never end. And that's the United States versus Iran. Trump is again putting firepower there, and I think he just has to just close the deal once and for all with them. And meanwhile, and I think what we're further encouraging him is that President gis has told has told Iran you cannot, you know, create interference there in the Strait of Hormuz. Well that's great. Maybe maybe the I tolders will listen to Shi Jinping, the Chinese government, which is one of their biggest clients. You know, so much of their oil goes to China, as you well know, so when they close the Straight of Hormonves, that just makes life miserable for the Chinese. So I think are the biggest recipients of Iranian oil. But you know, I thought this thing had wound down, that we're going to have some kind of a peace agreement or ceasefire whatever, And then the Iranians didn't really cease fire. They just slowed it down sort of a you know, slow down fire supposed to cease fire, and then it of course heated back up and now apparently we're back in the blockade aspect of this kind of this conflict, and the Iranians, I guess, is going to try again to close the straight armorves and they just don't seem to learn any matter. So we may have to teach them some more manners yet again.

1:42:41 And I hope we wrap this up soon because people last thing people need is an increase in energy prices. Well, I've been saying you got to send in the Marines, to send in the Marines, you know, get it done, get it over with. I know people are upset, they don't want boots on the ground or do whatever, but hey, look at you know, we're dragging this thing out. They continue to lie. I mean, there's what truth What true statement have they made and followed up on deroy? I can't think of one. I can't either. These people are grotesquely dishonest. You know, that's one of the biggest fears I have is that they don't seem to agree to or don't seem to keep their word on any agreement. So any agreement we signed them, it is probably it's so fact they're going to be violated. So I guess you just need to neutralize the point where they're just unable to respond at all.

1:43:27 So I guess I guess that means more ordnance from above, more you know, more more metal coming down from the skies until these people just don't have the ability to respond and cause anybody in grief. You know, DURRAI here we are two years? Has it been two years already since Butler? Right? And the attempted fascination of the President's amazing. Think about it, and he admits, he says, yes, you know, by God's grace he was saved and praised that God will continue to look out for him. The Iatola has put it out a fatah or put out a a kill statement on Donald Trump, and so you know, he's made it clear. The IETOT has made it clear that they want Donald Trump gone, of course, like that's no big surprise. And you know, here it is. You think about all that Donald Trump has been dealing with, He's dealing with, you know, this hot mess in Iran in the Middle East, everything that's going on there, attempt at assassinations and a democratic party and even some members of his own party. It's like, I mean, every once in a while, I go, why is he doing this, But at the same time, thank god he's doing it, because if not Donald Trump, then.

1:44:36 Who well, certainly, I mean it would have been if not him, base on last selection have been Kamala Harris. And imagine us being in this conference that ran right now with Kamala Harrison Charger other than Donald J. Trump. I think they would have all the hold all the cards that have all the leverage, and we would be in a position of incredible weakness in peril. And absolutely I think Trump is incredible in terms of his energy. As folks, the man is just unsinkable. And I think even as critics have got to say, look for a guy of eighty years old who's able to work pretty much around the clock and he's, you know, three in the morning, he's still at it, and then he's back at it again after an hour to sleep. It's really quite astonishing. And I'm sure that the left wishes they had somebody with that level of energy and stamina that he does.

1:45:21 And look what he's doing in terms of his vision for America, about having a Golden Age for America. You know, over nineteen trillion dollars of foreign investment. What he's done in terms of opening space for artificial intelligence, the races on the space and everything else. And you know, meanwhile, the Democrats are coming up because they're so adversarial and Trump arrangements syndrome. I think it's going to require decades of therapy for them because they're so brain damaged over Donald Trump. They can't even think straight. Because even when they try and articulate, you know, some sort of political position, it's like, what are you taking lessons from Kamala Harris?

1:46:05 I mean everything non sequitured and nonsensical. Yeah, I mean a couple of examples of this. Look, if you don't like Trump's program, great, offer an alternative or go out in protest. But people who don't like Trump decided to take it out of the reflecting pool and cut up the plastic lining they put into. I think he's forty five thousand gallons of water a day from leaking. You can't have that. You can't have Trump fixed the reflecting pool, So you got to have people go out and tear the thing to pieces. Another thing, I remember seeing a few weeks ago, Trump was coming down the stairs on Air Force one, and he was holding onto the railing and very carefully going down one step at a time, and they're like, oh, look at Trump, so oh they can't move. He's just crawling down the staircase. Now, if he bounded down the staircase quickly and didn't hold a handle and say, oh my god, he's so reckless, you could fall down and hurt himself out there. So there's nothing this guy can do to make these people happy, even the way he walks down the stairs of Air Force WAE.

1:47:00 Right, yeah, exactly. And of course you know they're just losing their minds. I mean, here it is. They're a mess in Maine. They knew this was coming, you know, and the socialist democratic socialist movement has has commandeered that party. And then here it is with this new industry and all these potentials that are coming up. And of course you're writing about this and it'll be released hopefully later on today. Regarding the data centers, and maybe you can give us a summary of that. Deroy absolutely well. You know, the left has been attacking data centers and AI in general, data centers in particular over the less probably yearsh or so. And I think what this is basically is the new global warming, of the new so called climate change you don't hear them talking about very much. So I think they're looking at this and thinking, if we attacked that and shut that down, this will slow down the economy and hurt the America, which is what a lot of left wants to do.

1:47:55 So they've jumped on this new hobby horse, and they're having some victories, I must say. In Monterey Park, California, they had a vote on June second this year and they voted to have a permanent one or two years permanent ban on data centers. That passed eighty six to fourteen. Eighty six percent, yes, fourteen percent. No, nothing ever passed this country by eighty six percent, So that's quite something. And one of the arguments they make is, oh my god, all that data centers are going to chew up all of our water. This is terrible, we'll all dehydrate. An organization called Unleashed Prosperity took a look at this, and the fact is that the data centers do use per year seventeen point four billion gallons of water. That's a lot of water. Seventeen point four billion gallons of water.

1:48:35 Well yeap, you know, as they say, compared to what well, compared to water melons, watermelons. To raise watermelons this country, we use fifty two billion gallons. That's three times more. If you play golf, you like golf courses, we use five hundred and thirty one billion gallons of water on golf courses. That's thirty one times more water than we use for data centers. And if you have corn with your dinner, you have ethanol in your car, which is based on corn. That uses three point nine trillion gallons of water. That's two hundred and twenty five times more water than the data centers. And then the big hog. It's funny should say hog because it's telly benefits cows. But alfalfa hay. Alfalfa hay uses six point zero three trillion gallons of water. That's three hundred and forty six almost three hundred and fifty times more water than the data centers use. So yeah, data centers.

1:49:24 Use a lot of water. But compared to all these other things we take for granted, hay, corn, water in your lawn, golf courses, swimming pools, it uses a whole lot less. And I really think Unleashed Prosperity did a great job of I think completely debunking this Oh my god, the water's going to vanish argument just by showing the comparison between what the data centers use and what we use for swimming pools, watermelons, almonds, way way, way less. And I think that argument at this point has been completely demolished. Yeah, but here they go so unprepared to debate this, and in Monterey, like you said eighty six to fourteen, you fix the deal. I mean, you prejudice the information with the people and convince them to this level that they would basically shoot themselves in the foot. Now, remind people deroy why data centers? Why are they so significant in this current environment? You know now today and going forward?

1:50:22 Well, data centers, I think a really good analogy is that data centers basically are the AI revolution with steel mills, worthy industrial revolution. These are basically the factories that use data, analyze data, turn data into things we like. You know, when you have a cell phone, you look at pictures of your your friends, your family, your vacation, your grandparents, whatever it is. Those pictures don't sit inside your phone. Those pictures are sitting on data centers around the country, and all your phone does is connect to them so you can see them. If you go on Amazon and buy yourself some new shoes or a new camera or a book or whatever, those are all those transactions happening on data centers all around the country. So if you use the Internet at all, you engage in e commerce, you buy anything online, you're using data centers. So this is some of these completely absolutely central to what we do these days in terms of how we use the Internet in our lives. And if we shut the data centers down, good luck finding a place to put your family photos and pictures of your friends, good luck buying stuff online, good luck dealing with things like you know, going on kayak to book flights or hotel rooms, that sort of thing. All these things that we do online on the Internet and involved data centers. And this is a positive thing. This is a good thing. And in this article I'm writing, which should be on Daily Signal within the next day or two, and elsewhere, I really tried the AI companies and the data center companies in particular.

1:51:47 They are being hammered by politicians, by activists, by people who hate them, and their response is quieter than crickets. There's no response. They maybe think if they just keep quiet, hiding under their dead the boogeyman will go away. The boogeyman is sitting there with a monkey wrench ready to bash their heads in. And these people like Bernie Sanders is talking about fifty percent nationalization of the AI companies. AOC and Bernie Sanders have introduced a federal moratorium on data centers. There's a group that tracks all these moratory around the country. There are one hundred and twenty seven of them in various communities across the US and forty different states, including eleven plate jurisdictions with permanent bands on data centers. So this is very serious, and I guess these are basically a bunch of you know, tech nerd types who don't really understand that they're being that they're under fire, and they're not responding there. I mean literally, I've never seen an ad saying, hey, here's a good idea, here's why this data center is going to make your life better. You do see some ads for AI companies, but they're very jargony, kind of kind of like coder talk, like whatever people who do when they talk to each other in these weird phrases that none of us under They desperately need to get involved, get engaged in this discussion and talk in ways that regular people can understand as to what the promises of AI. It's going to make our lives better. Yeah, there may be some impact on employment, but we have the same problem when we went from horse and buggies to cars, or we went

1:53:17 from candles to light bulbs, we went from black white TVs to color TVs, what have you. And when silent movies went to talkies, a lot of people who had weird voices didn't get to work, unfortunately, but a whole lot of other people did get hired as that industry expanded. So you can get out and make these arguments and engage. Right now, they're completely silent. I mean, I've been looking for the case for AI. I've been looking for the case for data centers. I see literally zero. I mentioned this thing about the water. There's a good article or video done by John Stossel on YouTube and a really good article in the Atlantic of all places, on how the data center attack on data centers is overblown. But other than those three things which are done by outsiders, I have yet to see any even one example of any communication from the data center companies as to why this is a good thing, why they should not be shut down. So they got to get involved in this or they're going to be strangled at CRIB. And this is deadly serious. They don't seem to understand what the risk is. The risk is severe and they got to get in on this national discussion because they're not, and if they don't, they're going to find themselves out of business, which would be really sad for them and very sad for the entire society.

1:54:24 You know, as you were laying this out, I was looking for the political hook, and you kind of went through it really quick and you wrapped it into Bernie Sanders and AOC. What it is is the government the confiscation of private property. They want to confiscate this deal. If they can confiscate the data centers, hello, communism, socialism, then they're happy with it. They want they're big. That's really the bottom line. Right absolutely, and not just hey, you know, we'll take five percent off the top. You know, Bernie Sanders says he wants half. If they can get more than half, they'll take more than half. And in the meantime, they're just in order to get that they're just terrifying people. And you know, it would be one thing if they were terrifying people, But you have the AI companies, the data center companies saying, Okay, here's why Bernie Centers is wrong, here's what AOC doesn't understand. But they're just getting beaten up like crazy from the left, mainly the left, some people on the right of their concerns and just zero zero, zero engagement. They're just I can't think of another industry that's sitting there basically getting raped and they won't even blow the rape whistle. They won't even yell rape that sit there and just all right, I'll just sit back and you know, take this quietly. And that is going to wipe them out if they don't step up and make the case for themselves. The case isn't going to make itself on its own. They need to get up and make it and they're not doing so, and that that is going to put them. I think it has them in great jeopardy right now, and they've got probably a couple of months to get involved there in big trouble.

1:55:44 Right you know, Doro, I think if AOC and Bernie Sanders were at the founding of this country. Two hundred and fifty years ago, our country would have been dead. Yep, absolutely think about that. And here they are now two hundred and fifty years later, and they're doing and they think they know better. I mean they have no idea and forget about you know, the Constitution be damned, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness be damned, and freedom for all be damned. Right. Yeah, well, that's certainly ands tremendous risk aversion. I mean, if AOC and Bernie Sanders were in charge back then, we never would have gotten off Plymouth Rock. You know, the United States America be Plymouth Rock and maybe fifteen feet around it. That's as far as we would have gotten because oh, you know, you can't walk in that forest, you can't chop down that tree. It's too risky. So let's just city or see what happens. And they wouldn't have gotten anywhere. I mean certainly there'd be no settlement to the other colonies, no settlement in the West. The Oklahoma land Rush wouldn't have happened. Those guys would just be sitting somewhere in northeast eastern Massachusetts and never would have gotten You know even where Springfield is today exactly.

1:56:49 Well, I'm looking forward to the article that you said should be released this week on the Daily Signal. Really good stuff. Thank you so much for sharing it with this. He's the Manhattan basedbat Gerus contributor contributing editor with The American Spectator and also of course the Daily Signals. To check it out. Roy Murdoch, Thank you, Deroy. Take care you bet great talk to you. Thanks Bill. Do you have Medicare and do you use a SEAPAP machine? This is a National Healthcare alert regarding your SEAPAP supplies. Using a clean SEAPAP mask and clean supplies is important to staying healthy. The best way to make sure your SEATPAP equipment is clean is to get new supplies. If you have Medicare, we have great news. Medicare will pay for you to have new clean supplies every ninety days.

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