June 11, 2026

The Bill Martinez Show 06 11 26

The Bill Martinez Show 06 11 26
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The Bill Martinez Show 06 11 26
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Are you ready?

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Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

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Ill Martinez Live a program about current events.

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Our culture, our values, our politics, and our future.

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And now Bill Martinez.

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Well, good morning, six minutes after the top of the hour.

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Right now, Bill Martinez here with the Assistant General Counselor

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at Landmark Legal, Win and Only Mike O'Neil.

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Mike, good morning, Good morning, could be with you, Bill,

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How are you well?

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Good to catch up on things. Let's take a look

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at these primaries that have taken place. California finally counted

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their numbers. I think a little bit early. I mean

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they were able to get in a week.

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I'll tell you.

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It's still spurious, Mike, And I mean I hate to

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do this, but you know, these blue states continue to

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put us into the realm of the conspiratorial and I

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resent that.

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I really do.

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Yeah, I mean I absolutely, But when you have the

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governor of California before the process has even begun saying

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we have a break glass in case of emergency in

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tingency in places, and then then he stops there. But what,

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of course, is then implication if things don't go as

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we plan, and what is that break class emergency? I

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think we saw this playing out in real time. You

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have to understand and take a step back and understand

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that the systems that are in place in a state

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like California and other states too to a lesser degree,

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but California really is the model. The systems that have

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been put in place to ensure that the outcome of

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elections can be manipulated in such a way as that

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as the powers that be achieve their desired outcomes. And

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let me explain it and break it down a little

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bit how it goes. First of all, you start with

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removing any and all reasonable protections on the voting system.

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That means no real signature verifications, vote by mail, universal

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vote by mail, no effort to clean voter roles, no

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serious effort to clean voter roles. And that means ensuring

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that ineligible individuals, people who died or moved out of

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the state, are their names are removed from the voter roles.

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And haven't even voted through a voting cycles.

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In some cases, ensuring that a mail ballot is mailed

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to every single name on those voter rolls, no matter

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whether that person has indicated they want a mail ballot

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or not.

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They get it.

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They get it. In their mail. No efforts systemic administrative

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procedures in place to to discourage DMV workers from preventing

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non citizens from registering to vote. So if you're not

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a citizen, and you're you're not a citizen, and you

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go to get a driver's license, okay, then with that

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are on opportunities to register to vote. And if you

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indicate that you're not a citizen, and you indicate that

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you still want to register to vote, employees of the

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California DMV are not allowed to take any steps to

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prevent you from registering to vote. That's absurd. So if

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you're if you're at the DMV and you see that

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somebody is indicated they're not a citizen, and then they're

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taking the steps to vote, to register to vote, you

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say no, no, no, you're not a citizen, no voting.

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No, that isn't that against them? Let me ask you,

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isn't that against the law?

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Now, the law in California is that you're not to

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inquire into it. They're not abetting it, they're not registering it.

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They're just it's passive. They're just not they're not supposed

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to say anything, So we don't say anything.

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So you mean, there's no catch all law that only

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citizens vote.

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There is, there's catch all laws that citizens should be

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registered to vote, and you're committing a crime, but there

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is nothing to prevent there's nothing, there's no administrative guidance

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to employees. In fact, they're they're discouraged. DMV employees are

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discouraged from stopping individuals from registering to vote, even if

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they are aware that they're not a citizen.

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And so once these bad votes pollute and contaminate the

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good votes, it's impossible to get them out of there, isn't.

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It right, It's impossible. And so in ballot harvesting, that's

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another system. That's another feature in California is they allow

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there doesn't have to be any kind of privity between

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the voter and the person who's taking their mail ballot

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and collecting their mail ballot. In other words, privity meaning

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like your spouse or your close personal friend. That means

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NGO's descend on these vulnerablebulations. And we saw this in

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skin row in real time.

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Yeah, because they have they have all the addresses.

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By the way, ladies, just you understand, the DMV provides

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the addresses to all these NGOs of who received ballots, right, yeah.

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And you don't even need a real address, any kind

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of any kind of address written on a ballot is sufficient.

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There's no checking that's make sure there's about a valid address,

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and there's no checking to ensure that the person who

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casts the ballot is who they are. And then here's

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the problem is, so you've you've removed all these reasonable protections.

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You've allowed ballot harvesting, you allow NGOs, you allow ballots

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to come in after election day, and so it allows

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these bad actors to manufacture votes. So if you're if

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you can fund NGOs, and we know that there's a

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lot of NGOs that are funded that receive millions of dollars,

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it doesn't take a lot of money in a narrow

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window of time, maybe a million dollars, which is a

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lot of money, but relatively speaking, a couple hundred thousand dollars.

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You establish a fly by night, like you know, build

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office in a strip mall, and you grab twenty five

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people off the street. You pay him twenty five dollars

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an hour to go out and get votes, and all

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it takes is, you know, if you have ten or

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fifteen people working for you for a couple of weeks

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and they go out and they collect you know, maybe

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fifty ballots a day and multiply that, do the numbers,

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and then you get you can you can manipulate a

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memorial race. It's not that it's complicated and it requires organization,

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but and it requires money. But we know that they

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have that. And then the features are the systems are

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in place in California that permit all of those things.

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So that's what when Gavin Newsom says we have a

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break you know, break glass in emergency scenario, that's what

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he's referring to. He knows. So it's almost no matter

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how much ground swell of support is orchestrated for some

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of these candidates like Spencer Pratz for example, and no

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matter how much momentum they appear to have behind the scenes,

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you know what's happening. Now? Why is this? This is

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bad for so much many reasons. The first reason, and

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you you said this before, Bill, is that people lose

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faith in the their their their sanctity of the vote,

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in whether they can effectuate change via the ballot box.

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We've talked about this before, but when you think that

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the system is rigged and your vote doesn't matter, and

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people like Gavin Newsom say, we know what's going to

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happen before we had, we don't worry where we got this.

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That means you you say, well, what's the point of

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even voting at this point? So how do you want

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to effectuate change? You go down dark paths, so people

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have people lose faith in this in this uh, in

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the in the sanctity of the ballot box. Now, vote

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by mail is terrible. I mean, vote by mail is bad,

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but ballot harvesting is really bad because again it removes

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the ability of somebody to vote in secret. You're a

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subject to undo influence and all that. So where are

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we going where? That's the terrible bad news. What this

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means is, and we've talked about this before, is if

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a state is failing in its duty to ensure the

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integrity of its electoral system, then how do you affect

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weight change through that? Well, there is a role for

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the federal government to play, and this is where we're

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come into the same of America Act. And it's imperative

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that Congress gets through the same America Act. Yet they

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still in the face of all of this is what's happening.

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You still see senators not getting.

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It amazing, yeah, yeah.

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And then for Republicans in particular, which you know, it's

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the same crew basically, and they continue to impede something

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that eighty percent of the country is pretty much insisting

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on now.

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Right, voter identification, identification of removal of and of identification,

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removal of non citizens from the voter rules, and approve

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of citizenship when you register to vote. These are all

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important things. Imagine think of that that that would allow,

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that would present some floor level of security measures. Again,

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it doesn't solve the problem a lot of the problems,

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but at least it begins to move the ball into

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that realm of fairness. And there are some other good

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There are other couple of pieces of good news. Number One,

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the Supreme Court earlier this term, in the decision in

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the Boss case, held that candidates have stand affirmed what

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is known as candidates standing. So if you're a candidate,

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that's that's that suffers a loss. I mean, I don't

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know if Spencer Pratt would be in a position to

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do this, but I would certainly think about it if

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I were him. Is you can challenge the fairness of

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an electoral system, So it affirmed the notion of candidates standing,

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and it established that elections have to be fair, which

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is a fairly broad you know, punt intent is a

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broad standard here, so you can make an allegation that

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it's unfair some way. Also, the court is poised in

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the next week or so to maybe in the next couple

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of weeks, maybe maybe tomorrow, I don't know, in a

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decision in Watson versus RNC is to poise to say

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that ballots have mail, ballots have to be received by

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election day, and that states can't have laws that allow

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ballots to be received post election day. So like Washington

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State or California, they can't have these ballots trickling in

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the days and weeks after an election. So if it's

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not in the if it's not in the possession of

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the election officials by the conclusion of election day, it's

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not accepted. That's that's some good news. But again, the

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real problem here is you need to have legislation like

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the Save America Act pass immediately.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, we got to go to quick break. We'll pick

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it up on the other side. More from my capter,

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Hey, we're back with.

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You film Martinez here and Michael Feo, the Assistant General

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counsel of Landmark Figo.

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One of the things in terms of in case emergency

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break the glass. And this is something that Nancy Pelosi

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had employed. In fact, if you remember back in before

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the twenty twenty election, she made the announcement that Joe

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Biden was going to win. There was no doubt about

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it in her mind. I mean, she was so confident.

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So what did she know.

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That we didn't know that we know now, I mean

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the end result. And you know, so on a federal level,

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they had a break the glass scenario in option. The

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other break the glass option that they have in California,

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as you mentioned, because of its unit party.

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Foundation. Is that.

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I mean Steve Hilton going in and trying to manage

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a state that's infrastructure is that is so over the

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top and so unipartied that his hands are going to

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be fulled full in much the same way that Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Did you know Schwarzenegger when he went in he thought, hey,

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he's gonna shake it up and do it.

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And they said, hey, look at everything.

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Eighty five percent of the budget is already Man, it's done,

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it's cooked. The fork is in it. You can't touch it.

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So you only got about fifteen percent to play with.

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And oh yeah, by the way, they've already spent twenty

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they spent that in another twenty percent.

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So welcome to California. Right.

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Yeah, it's it's it's it's really tragic. And and the this

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is this is what's important to understand also is that

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it's not limited to California. This is the model, you know,

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as we say the left, the California is the laboratory

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for the left where they perfect their their their their tactics,

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their policies, their implementations, and export it throughout the rest

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of the country. And so you see a lot of

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these movements in other states. And so you know, Virginia,

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for example, is kind of going that way because once

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once you see the left comes into power, they inevitably

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move into a certain direction. They want to remove all

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of these things. Yeah, make no mistake, the goal of

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the left is removal of the requirement for citizenship to vote.

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That's gone, universal mass amnesty, open borders, you know, unlimited

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funding of whatever, kakamami ngo, you want to get look

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at look at what's become now, what's coming into light

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now with the extent a way which the Biden administration

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was governing our country for four years? Is you allowed

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think about this? This FHA loan thing. Did you hear

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about this? This is where illegal immigrants can come to

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America or non citizens can obtain housing loans for houses

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at zero percent interests or one percent interest zero down

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one percent interests. Who programs that are not available to

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American citizens. America has just become an ATM for the

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world where anybody can come in and essentially just take

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advantage of our openness and our trustworthiness, on our honesty

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and graft off the American taxpayer. And again it's we've

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seen a play out. Let me one last thing about

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California before I move on, if you want to talk

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about you know, we get to this conspiratorial things. But

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a ballot edition of I Think in LA was authorized,

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which raised the sales tax in LA from like eight

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point five percent to ten percent. Have you ever in

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your life heard of a constituency of voters voluntarily raising

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their taxes via ya a ballot initiative absolutely, that's absurd.

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Oh yeah, yeah. Oh I'm gonna vote for for Ramen

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or Nitha Ramen. Oh sure, right who okay? Oh and

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also down the road, I'm going to vote for to

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raise my taxes. Yeah, that's a plausibility way. So again

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we talk about fraud, and I never really use I mean,

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fraud is a good word to use, but fraud carries

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legal implications. I like to call like manufacturing, ballot manufacturing,

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voter manufacturing, because these are ballots that would never have

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been cast but for all of these systemic issues, and

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they now find their way into kind of the stream

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of commerce and allow and affect the outcome of an election.

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And again they know they have they have it down

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to a science where they know exactly how many votes

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are necessary and where those votes need to come in

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and where they need to come in from so exactly.

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You know, I don't know if there's a fix to it.

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There's a fix to it Nationally Save America Act. And

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again then the other fix is too big to rag

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is you try to you try to have enough vote

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to overcome that spread, that delta of voter mouth seasons.

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It's hard to do in a mayoral election, but it's

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easier to do on a national level.

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We covered four well, the other fixes. The American people

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have got to wise up.

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For lack of a.

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Better word, I mean, Rush Limbaugh called it about, you know,

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you know, the low information voter, and we have begun

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very blase. Everything's participated in this, you know, to really

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dumb down America. And the thing is, you know, this

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idea of what they did in siloing everybody. You know,

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they divided the United States. We're no longer united. So

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everybody went into their own little clubs and their clicks

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and everything, and they siloed themselves and as a result,

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they rendered themselves stupid because they're relying on the same

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people for the same insight and understanding of what's going on.

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And you know, some of us, you know, Mike, we

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look at what's going on in our government and we say,

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you know, we're talking about voting, but it's everything that

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has to do with the government. It's corrupt, it's manipulated,

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the consent of the govern all the violation of our constitution.

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I mean, read the.

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Constitute, Read the Declaration of Independence. And if that doesn't

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get you upset, because you read it and you can't

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help but think, well, America.

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Is not that well, no kidding, it's not that. But

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what do we got to do?

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Yeah?

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I think it's funny when you're talking about siloing, and

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it is.

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It is.

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If you want something entertaining, read the Associated Press of

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the Los Angeles Times coverage of the mayorial race in

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Los Angeles.

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Yeah, and you.

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Would think everything is, of course, wow, this is you know,

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the way they describe Spencer Pratt is embarrassing. Clearly there

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was no due diligence or no effort to understand what

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he was running for and why he was running for

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the position he was, why he was running for mayor,

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And it's just these this anodyne kind of statements about

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it as almost again. And you know who was the

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expert at this, who was perfect at this, who modeled it,

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Barack Obama.

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Oh you can come out.

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This guy could come out and say the most radical,

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ridiculous things and make it sound like, of course, this

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is just something that's gonna happen, and it's just anodyne

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and perfect, and it's just you look at it, you'd

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be like, what what are you talking about? But for

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somebody who's just siloed in their own informational bubble, and oh,

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I only get my news through you know, the sixty

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Minutes or which we saw the nonsense which is running around,

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you know, that insanity. But or I get my news

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through the through the Los Angeles Times or the Associated Press,

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you get this version that is so skewed from the

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actual reality of the situation. You become completely inured to

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what's going on in our country. And unless you're, unless

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you're paying attention to it, you miss it.

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Right.

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And so again, if you were getting your news from

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watching the mainstream media news outlets, reading the Associated pressing

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reading the Los Angeles Times, and listening to Barack Obama

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or Gavin Newsom, you'd have a completely different viewpoint from

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the one that's in reality.

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What it is and what it's doing.

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It's people, Mike, that's the thing looks societally. What is

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happening right now. I mean, kids are shooting kids, stabbing kids,

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you know, the kind of violence that's happening on the

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streets of America. This is all part and parcel of

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the siloing effect of America.

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It's dumb this down.

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It's removed us from our moral compass, you know, and

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it's all about power and control, which you know, the globalists,

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they love this because this all plays into their hands.

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You know, these people that want power and control. You

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think it's about the Republican or Democratic you know, you're silly,

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You have no idea. I mean, we're just we're just

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tools for them, because they're on a whole different agenda.

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You know, talk about the deep state and all these

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other lever pullers in the background that you don't see

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that remain secret because they like it that way, because

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that's the way they can exist, because as soon as

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you shine the light on them, like cockroaches, they're scattering.

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But it's been a long time coming that all stuff

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that has been hidden, Mike, has got to come to

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fruition and it's got to be exposed. And this is

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why they're so upset about Donald Trump, why they were

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so upset with Charlie Kirk, because just him asking questions

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caused people to, you know, exercise some critical thinking and

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just like you just said about Barack Omama doesn't make sense.

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Yeah, the I think there there is some degree of

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chickens coming home to roost in this and that there's

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an exposure of the extent to which fraud has become

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just just part of the fabric of American society right now.

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And well, I mean, I mean economic fraud in the

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government right I'm talking about fraud in the Medicare, Medicaid,

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social Security, housing loans, employment H one B, VISA fraud,

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OPT fraud. It's just America. As I said, before, the

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world kind of got noticed and the door was left

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open under the Obama administration. Then really under the Biden administration,

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the door was left wide open. And we were talking

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about this before, you know, like you you know, with

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the analogy we were talking about. You You're sitting at

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your kitchen table and somebody comes in and the door's

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open and they can just ride your refrigerator and you're like,

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why do I have to spend one thousand dollars this

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month on groceries? Well, because your door was wide open,

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and your refrigerator wasn't locked and nobody and you didn't

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have a guard dog at the steps. So you allowed

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the world to come in and raid your house. And

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that's what we've done. We've let the We've allowed the

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world to come in and raid our homes. And metaphorically speaking,

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I guess and maybe literally speaking.

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Well literally, yeah, exactly.

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So the question is pay attention to it. Understand that

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there are some good actors in our government that are

478
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trying to requisent this. I think of like a guy

479
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like Lee Zelden, who's the head of the Environmental Protection Agency,

480
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:43.880
and the EPA was the the ATM for NGOs. I mean,

481
00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.839
any NGO could come up with some kaka mami environmental nonsense,

482
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.480
put in a grant request and get a check from

483
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the APE, from the Environmental Protection Agency, from the federal

484
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:56.960
government for however many millions you want. I mean, cec

485
00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:59.240
Abrams's case is case in point in this where she

486
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created some nonsensical uh NGO group that bought refrigerators that

487
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.799
did something and received billions of dollars. So Stacy Abrams

488
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.160
has a beautiful house, a beautiful car, more money than

489
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.480
she can count on the backs of the American taxpayer.

490
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That's a perfect example. But she's she's at not at

491
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least she's American, I mean essentive. He's an American and

492
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.519
she's a citizen. Non citizens come in here. People come

493
00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:24.440
from India or from wherever country you want to talk about,

494
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.880
or Somalia, and they come in here and Somali that's

495
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the fraud.

496
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But even still, when you're a citizen, what is what

497
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does that say about your integrity?

498
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:34.599
You don't you're going to.

499
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.480
Steal from your own people. I mean, that's but that's

500
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what's going on, sadly.

501
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But at least at least i'll stop you real quick.

502
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At least we can talk about it and we know

503
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it's happening and the light of you know, the transparency

504
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.759
light of sunshine is shining on this now. Thanks largely

505
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.319
thanks again the guy. Like, there's some good actors. Back

506
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to my original point, you got the vice president heading

507
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up a fraud task force, so there at least there's

508
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some you know, three years ago, we could have had

509
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this conversation and we'd say, well we didn't. You know,

510
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.440
it's all done in the shadows. Now at least we

511
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see what's happening. And there are some efforts I appreciate,

512
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like when doctor Oz goes in front of some building

513
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in wherever whatever city says this is where they're saying

514
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that there's home, hospice care whatever.

515
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:16.920
This is.

516
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At least now we're talking about it and it's being

517
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exposed and people are becoming aware of this and so

518
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hopefully you know we can continue down this path in

519
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the coming months and years.

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Well, he's the Assistant General Counsel Landmark Legal, Mike O'Neil.

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Thank you, Mike, Take care, Hey, Karabell, I'll have a

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Bill Martinez here with doctor John Lott. Always going to

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have him here, the author of gun control miss also

588
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the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.

589
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Hey, John, how are you doing great?

590
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It's great to talk to again.

591
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Always going to be talking to you.

592
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I guess violent crime is dropping as more Americans are

593
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packing heat.

594
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Huh yeah, Well, I think this last year, twenty twenty five,

595
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.640
will we will have seen the lowest murder rate ever

596
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recorded in US history. You know, they have murdered data

597
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.480
the federal government has since nineteen hundred, so that's about

598
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one hundred and twenty six years, and the lowest previous

599
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:54.039
murder rate we ever had was four point five murders

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per one hundred thousand people. But it looks like this

601
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:01.839
last year it was probably it was probably down to

602
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.839
below four per hundred thousand, and twenty twenty four was

603
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.960
about five per hundred thousand, So you know, this was

604
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substantially below anything we had previously seen, and there are

605
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:18.880
reasons for it that we can talk about. But one

606
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of the things that we have seen is that there's

607
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.039
been a big increase in the rate that people are

608
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carrying concealed handguns. At the end of twenty twenty four,

609
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we also did a survey on people carrying. And one

610
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of the reasons why we've been doing the survey is

611
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that we for about fifteen years we've been looking at

612
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.799
the number of concealed carry permits that have been issued.

613
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The problem is is that over the last few years,

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00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.720
in particular, we've had this huge increase in the number

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of constitutional carry states. Since twenty twenty one, over a

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third of the US population now is, in addition, living

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00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.599
in constitutional carry states. We have twenty nine constitutional carry

618
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:10.599
states all together.

619
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Now, explain to the audience what it means to be

620
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in a constitutional carry state.

621
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What does that mean?

622
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:17.720
Yeah, I was going to do that. Thanks.

623
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.279
Well, you have two types of states. You have those

624
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.440
where you have to have a permit to carry, so

625
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.559
called right to carry, shall issue type laws, and then

626
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:34.440
you have these twenty nine states where it's no longer

627
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.519
necessary to have a permit to carry. As long as

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you're able to legally own a gun, as long as

629
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.640
you're able to legally pass a background check, then you're

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00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:49.079
able to go and get it to carry your concealed handgun,

631
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and we just have a hard number on the number

632
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of permits. We don't know the number of people who

633
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.559
are carrying who can legally carry.

634
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.319
Reason why we do the survey.

635
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.160
And between the end of twenty twenty four and now,

636
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.920
there's been over a five percent increase in the rate

637
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:19.039
that people are carrying concealed handguns. Right now among general

638
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:24.160
election voters, you find that about almost thirty percent of

639
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.759
Americans who vote who are going to vote in the

640
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:32.240
general election actually carry. And it's higher in the constitutional

641
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.119
carry states. It's about thirty four percent in those states,

642
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.000
and it's about twenty percent who are carrying in the

643
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.480
other twenty one states.

644
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.240
What's motivating that number, John.

645
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.160
Well, I think.

646
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.359
You can go and look to see what's happening over

647
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.279
the last few years just in terms of constitutional carry,

648
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.400
and I think a lot of that had to do

649
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:00.720
with COVID that when you had over half the states

650
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:07.680
there stop issuing concealed carry permits when we had obviously

651
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.240
there are a lot of concerns about crime and other things,

652
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:17.680
and so states moved to move to constitutional carry because

653
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:21.640
they said, look, you know, if the system breaks down

654
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.559
and you're not able to go and issue permits to people.

655
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:32.000
They're stuck, you know, and so they moved to constitutional

656
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.839
carry to give them an option. Now, there are other

657
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:40.359
things that are going on. When you what determines whether

658
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.279
a lot of people carry is the cost of being

659
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:47.119
able to go and carry. You know, when you have

660
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:48.799
to pay for a permit. You know, it could be

661
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:52.279
eighty dollars, could be one hundred dollars, could be more

662
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.759
or less, depending upon the state that you're in. That

663
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.440
affects the number of people were caring. When you're talking

664
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.039
about constitutional carry, there's no longer a fee that you

665
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:03.920
have to go and pay to be able to go

666
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:09.159
and do that. Also, you know, particularly for women, there

667
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.480
might be something that just occurs suddenly. They may start

668
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.360
being stalked or threatened. Under the old rules where you

669
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:18.760
had to go and get a permit in all these stays,

670
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.639
what would happen is is that it could take forty

671
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.519
five days, sixty days, ninety days, maybe even a year

672
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.719
in some places once you apply for the permit to

673
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.920
be issued. Well, if a woman's being stocked or threatened,

674
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.280
she may not have forty five days to wait to

675
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.920
be able to start to carry.

676
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.320
She may need to do so right now.

677
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:42.760
And one of the things that we see is that

678
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.679
in constitutional carry states, the relative rate that women are

679
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.920
carrying relative to men is relatively higher, and that may

680
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.480
be part of it. But one of the things that's

681
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.960
very interesting is just to see the breakdown of who's

682
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:05.639
caring Blacks and Hispanics. Blacks make up about eleven percent

683
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.000
of general election voters, but they make up over fifteen

684
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.639
percent of those who are legally carrying. Hispanics, it's even

685
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:19.400
more disproportionate. Hispanics make up also about eleven percent of

686
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:23.519
general election voters, but they make up over eighteen percent

687
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.000
of those who carry all or most of the time,

688
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.719
so that's quite disproportionate.

689
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:31.039
There.

690
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:36.760
Another group that was surprising was people who are very liberal.

691
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.639
So if you break it down by people's political views,

692
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:45.320
you know they're very liberal, liberal, moderate conservative, very conservative.

693
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.719
The group that's carrying at the highest rate are those

694
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:55.360
who are classified as very liberal. The ones who carry

695
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.280
at the second highest rate are those who classify themselves

696
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:06.760
as very concerservative. Overall, Democrats carry at a low rate

697
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:11.599
compared to Republicans or independents, but it's interesting that there

698
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:15.719
are groups within kind of their constituency like those who

699
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:22.400
are very liberal or minorities who are carrying at high rates.

700
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:26.719
In these non constitutional states twenty one, and they have

701
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:33.360
various different types of restrictions on gun ownership, right.

702
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:34.440
Yeah.

703
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:40.119
And also there's big differences in terms of the cost

704
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.320
of getting a concealed carry permit. You have some place

705
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.119
like Illinois, where the total cost of fees and training

706
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.519
probably around four hundred and fifty dollars to go and

707
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.760
get a permit. In parts of California, the cost is

708
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.079
probably around one thousand dollars to do that, Whereas you

709
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:01.320
have another state like Pennsylvania, which is also a right

710
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.920
to carry, not a constitutional carry state, where it costs

711
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.239
about twenty dollars is the total cost of getting a permit.

712
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.199
So you have very wide variations there, and that affects

713
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.480
the rate that people go and get permits in those

714
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:16.280
different places.

715
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:18.360
You got to imagine, John, some of these states that

716
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.400
you just mentioned, in areas where crime is up so high,

717
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:26.719
how insecure these people must feel because they're totally relying

718
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.719
on law enforcement. And it's these same blue states that

719
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.079
want to get rid of law enforcement.

720
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:34.519
It's just it doesn't make sense.

721
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Sure, Well, yeah, I mean, there are lots of things

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that affect crime. You know, it's not rocket sciences. You

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and I have talked about many times before. If you

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want to reduce crime, you have to make it riskier

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for criminals to go and commit crime. And you can

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do that with higher rest rates, which is going to

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be relayed to the police, higher conviction rates, longer prison sentences,

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with prosecutors will handle and judges. But you can also

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make it risky by allowing victims to be able to

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go and defend themselves. Now, in some places, you've had

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these soros district attorneys like Elvin Bragg and New York

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City and Kim Fox and Chicago, and up until recently

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similar people in Los Angeles and San Francisco. The voters

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there rejected and throughout the Democrat left wing.

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Prosecute district attorneys that they had in those places.

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But you know, if you don't want to prosecute people,

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and if you don't want to put them in jail,

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you're going to have higher crime rates and so and also,

739
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as you correctly mentioned, those places also make it harder

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for people to defend themselves.

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Exactly got to go to quick break. More from doctor

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Miss John, you.

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Write in your recent Real Claire investigation report an interesting

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story about one Alessandra Cote, which is, you know, consistent

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with what you were talking in terms of you know,

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female participation, you know, women wanting to be you know,

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licensed to carry or to exercise their constitutional right to

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carry because you know, because of the danger and the vulnerability.

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Relate that story to our audience if you.

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Would, Yeah, sure, Well. Alexandra's a young single mother. She's

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been going to law school the last few years, and

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initially about two and a half years ago when she

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was out on a hiking trail with her young daughter

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and a dog. A man came up and yelling and

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screaming at her and threatened to kill her dog. She

834
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was very scared. Decided at that point that she wanted

835
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to be able to go and carry for protection. The

836
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thing is, she didn't have much money. She was poor student,

837
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single mom, couldn't really afford a nice place to live,

838
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was living in a relatively dangerous part of town. Fortunately,

839
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a few years ago, Utah passed constitutional carry, so she

840
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was no longer necessary for her to have to pay

841
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the eighty dollars for the permit that was there. But

842
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she was able to go and get a hold of

843
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a gun and start carying. And there were times, because

844
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there were homeless people and others who were living in

845
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her neighborhood that would kind of accost her. And fortunately

846
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she never actually had to use the gun, but she

847
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could just let the person who is approaching her know

848
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that she was armed, and you know, the problem would dissipate.

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She would she was safe.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And this is just one of probably thousands, if not millions,

852
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of typical stories you know of women like Alessandra Code

853
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that you know was being threatened. And this is why, again,

854
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why our second Amendment is so critical and especially right now, John,

855
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as you know what we're dealing with. I mean, this

856
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is a cultural issue. You know, yes, that's great that

857
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the murder rate is down, but we're still dealing with

858
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illegal immigration, illegal crime rate being what it is. I mean,

859
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you hear stories. I mean there's a lot of anger

860
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out there. I mean, we just saw a situation as

861
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heartbreaking here last year where you know, at Attract Meet

862
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you get a young man who is murdered by someone

863
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by knife, not even a gun, but by a knife.

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But again, what I'm pointing to is the anger and the.

865
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Crime hasn't disappeared still there. For sure, I would say

866
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that Trump deserves more than a little bit of credit

867
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for the big drop and murder and violent crime that

868
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we were talking about earlier that occurred last year and

869
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is continuing this year. You know, people don't appreciate what

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a high crime rate is being committed by illegal aliens,

871
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and it's probably even higher than we realize because a

872
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lot of the crimes that they're committed are being committed

873
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against other illegals that are in the country disproportionately. But

874
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what you see is that by deporting illegal alien criminals

875
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they're not committing crimes in the United States anymore. But

876
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it's more than that. Even the ones that you haven't caught,

877
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they don't want to get deported. How does legal alien

878
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who would normally be committing crime keep from being deported.

879
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He knows if he gets caught, if he gets taken

880
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into a county courthouse someplace, there'll be ICE agents waiting

881
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for him there, even before he goes to trial, they'll

882
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take him into customer and deport the individual. And the

883
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way they keep from being deported is to keep off

884
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of police radar. And the way they keep off of

885
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police radar is not to commit many crimes right now,

886
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because the more criminal activity that they engage in, the

887
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more likely that the police will be there in order

888
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to pick them up. And so I think that's had

889
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a major impact. We saw some data at the end

890
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of last year. ICE had gone through and looked at

891
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the number of detainers for people who are incarcerated in

892
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New York State, for example, and fourteen percent of those

893
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who were incarcerated in New York State, we're a lead aliens. Now,

894
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it's possible that it's even much higher than that, because

895
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New York State did not cooperate at all with ICE

896
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and identifying those individuals that were there. Plus, in addition,

897
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some people never make it into the incarcerated population because

898
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when they're arrested and charged in a county courthouse, ICE

899
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can be there and pick them up at that point.

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And so there are.

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Multiple reasons for realizing that this is an underestimate of

902
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:38.400
the problem. But fourteen percent, it's a huge comcars rate.

903
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Population can compare it to the highest estimated number of

904
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illegals as a share of the New York population. Pew

905
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.159
estimates that it's about four percent. So that's still that

906
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:54.000
fourteen percent, still three and a half times their share

907
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.039
of the population, and so that's very disproportionate there. You know,

908
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.119
that's a much higher rate than the general population in

909
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terms of committing crimes.

910
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:07.920
Well, John, this idea that you know, Trump was elected

911
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to get control of the border again. He did that

912
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on day one, to do something about the mass number

913
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of illegal immigrants that have come into our country under

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the previous administration. He's been working on that, and yet

915
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there's a small, very loud number of you know, of

916
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adversarial agents that are getting in the way of him

917
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being able to accomplish this, but you know, the media

918
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would want is to believe that somehow we can bifurcate

919
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and slice up, you know, this illegal immigration population and

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try and differentiate between illegals who were here. I mean,

921
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they're still illegal, they broke the law, but they've been

922
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here for a while, versus the ones that have been

923
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part of the new wave and may be associated with

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you know, Antifa or some cartel or you know, whatever

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knows what.

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Right.

927
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Yeah, look, I mean ICE agents in twenty twenty five

928
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were facing assaults that were about eight percent higher than

929
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they were in twenty twenty four, the last year of

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the Biden administration. But we've done work looking at things

931
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like the air rates for ice picking people up last

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year as compared to previous administrations. The bi An administration

933
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didn't keep data on this. The Obama administration only kept

934
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this type of data for the last two years of

935
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the Obama administration. But the air rate in terms of

936
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accidentally picking up Americans was three times higher, over three

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times higher under Obama than it was last year under Trump.

938
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I mean, they're very low rates in any case.

939
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Plus the rate that people died in ice custody, you know,

940
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of some old people or people of other health issues.

941
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Was also much higher under the Obama administration than it

942
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was under Trump. It was like ten times different.

943
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So you know, it's people, you know.

944
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And the thing is the US didn't actually deport They

945
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:26.599
may have taken into custody some Americans again at a

946
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:29.440
much lower rate, less than a third the rate that

947
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:34.800
the Obama administration did. But the Obama administration actually accidentally

948
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:36.159
deported Americans.

949
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:43.719
There's none of that that happened under Trump. So you know, it's.

950
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.800
It's as interesting to see the way the media covers

951
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these I'm sure almost nobody would realize kind of the

952
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.719
difference in the numbers there. But we've put all that

953
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together at our website at Crimeresearch dot org.

954
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Yeah, check this out.

955
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I mean, these are the facts, ladies and gentlemen, and

956
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something the media is not telling us about. Of course,

957
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they continue to be the defenders of democratic policies that

958
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I mean, at the end of the day, John, I

959
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keep asking the question, where have they helped us? I mean,

960
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right now, you've got a president that's trying to come

961
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up with a solution, and at every turn he's blocked

962
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and he's interfered with whether it's you know, the Democratic

963
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.000
Party or activist judges, right.

964
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:34.320
No, I mean they made it very difficult.

965
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.840
I mean, it's kind of amazing that they've accomplished what

966
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.800
they've been able to accomplish. I mean, you have a

967
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.800
lot of the cities, like in Minneapolis and other places

968
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.400
where the police are refusing to do their jobs to

969
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.519
go and protect the ICE agents that are there, made

970
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:52.880
it much more difficult for them to do their jobs.

971
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.079
Same with Los Angeles and other places, and so you know,

972
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:03.039
it's they've been able to deport large numbers of criminals

973
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:07.519
from those areas. About seventy percent last year of the

974
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:13.039
illegals who were deported had criminal records. You know, one

975
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.719
of the games that some of the media and places

976
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:21.280
like Cato and other places play on this is they

977
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.559
only count if you have a criminal record, if you've

978
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:29.719
been convicted of certain violent times like murder, rape, robbery,

979
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.880
a vade assault. In the United States, the problem is

980
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:36.480
is that you know, you're also talking about people who

981
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:41.679
were drug dealers, who were kidnappers, who were other types

982
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:46.320
of things that they're not counting. But there are other

983
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:49.719
major issues. One is, as far as I knew, you

984
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.199
always had a criminal record if you had been convicted

985
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.480
or arrested, And as I mentioned a couple times in

986
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.639
this interview, what will happen is a legal alien will

987
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.800
be arrested, will be a range in a local county courthouse,

988
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.679
and ice officers will pick them up directly at that point.

989
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:12.679
And secondly, whether they had convictions in their home countries.

990
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:19.599
For some reason, some of these advocacy groups like CATO

991
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:23.239
or the media doesn't seem to care whether or not

992
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.079
the person was convicted a murder or rape in their

993
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:29.320
home country. To me, that's just as much of a

994
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.400
concern as whether we've actually gone through the legal process

995
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.960
and caught them engaging in you know, child rape or

996
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:38.719
something like that in the United States.

997
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:40.039
Exactly.

998
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:41.719
Well, we got to leave it there for now, doctor

999
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.199
John Lotte, the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.

1000
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:47.360
John the website again they can go to to find

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out all about.

1002
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:50.880
This and all the information that you have there.

1003
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.840
Well, thanks, it's Crime research dot org.

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Bill Martinez Live, Hey.

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00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.000
Right now, six minutes after the top of the r

1027
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.480
I'm Bill Martinez. He is Scott Powell from the Discovering

1028
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:14.800
Institute and the author. Hey, mister Scott, how are we doing.

1029
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.039
I'm great, Bill, It's nice to be with you.

1030
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:18.599
We'll always good to have you here.

1031
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.199
And here we are another day in America.

1032
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:27.320
A lot of Americans are siloed. They are stuck in

1033
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:28.840
their own thinking.

1034
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:32.320
They have been probably for the last decade, as the

1035
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:37.760
Left continues to divide this country. And this is all

1036
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.679
part and parcel of what is at the root of

1037
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:44.840
the tree here. If we look at it in terms

1038
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.880
of the tree, Scott, the fruit is not the healthy

1039
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:50.199
fruit of democracy.

1040
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:52.679
We're not seeing that hanging on the tree.

1041
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.599
So it tells me, like everything that has to do

1042
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.719
with people who understand, you know, when they plant trees

1043
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:01.599
and they see trees Jesus talked about trees and the

1044
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:05.079
fruit that comes on it, then we know that if

1045
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:09.440
the fruit is not representative of what we expected, then

1046
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:11.639
there's something wrong with the root system.

1047
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:15.400
Right, it's so well said, Bill, It's really true. And

1048
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.519
you know, the founders of our country, all of them,

1049
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:27.199
I mean, you can go back, of course, Washington, Adams, Madison, Lincoln,

1050
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.760
and we had a few moderns that stress the importance

1051
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:35.920
of the underlying importance of the virtue of society really

1052
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:42.400
was critical to the functioning not only of our constitutional government,

1053
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:47.880
but it really affects everything. It affects contract law, everything.

1054
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:52.760
You know, when trust breaks down, everything begins to falter.

1055
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.119
And that's sort of where we are now, in spite

1056
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:01.519
of great leadership by Trump for in both foreign and

1057
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.320
domestic policy. But our problems are very very much rooted

1058
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.920
in the breakdown of society. And this is this has

1059
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:12.960
been happening for some time. And I think we can,

1060
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:16.400
you know, we can really attribute the acceleration of this

1061
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:20.159
to taking God out of our culture, which really started.

1062
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.280
Maybe it's hard to say exactly when it started, but

1063
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.039
we could say a marker is nineteen sixty two where

1064
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:30.320
we we we said, you know, prayer has no place

1065
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:31.320
in school anymore.

1066
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.519
Right, Yeah, I go back to I go back to

1067
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:39.400
Darwin because Darkway maade them an excuse. I just you know,

1068
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:41.760
and that's just you know, again, you can look at

1069
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:44.480
benchmarks in history and say, okay, we could see where

1070
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.719
this had impact, how it changed. You know, progressivism came

1071
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:49.719
into play, and then it was a slow walk through

1072
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:53.000
you know, the early twentieth century. You know, through the institutions.

1073
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.760
The institutions got captured and it was all a very

1074
00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:02.559
subtle but a a planned response because you see the

1075
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:05.840
thing is is that America Scott, when you really look

1076
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:09.920
at it, I don't know where our Constitution, Declaration of Independence,

1077
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:13.159
this great American idea where it's not been at war.

1078
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.840
We have been at war from day one. As soon

1079
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:18.880
as you said, hey, this is what we're gonna do.

1080
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.320
I mean, you go back, you go back to the

1081
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:24.440
garden of Eden. You know, when the big Sin came in,

1082
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:26.880
it was like, let there be war. And we've been

1083
00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:30.880
at war. You know, the you know, humanity has been

1084
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.800
at war ever since because the battle rages. I mean

1085
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.199
you can come in and say, oh, it's you know Republicans.

1086
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:37.440
Or its forget it.

1087
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:42.400
No, it's it's more foundational, like you're saying, absolutely with

1088
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.199
our own our individual morality. It has to do with

1089
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:49.000
good and evil. And the deal was there was a

1090
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.559
clear pronouncement by our founding fothers that we were going

1091
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:53.639
to pursue good.

1092
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:54.519
Right.

1093
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:57.719
Yes, I mean, this is what makes America the most

1094
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.960
unique country in the entire world. I mean you have

1095
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:06.000
to just in terms of a sweeping view of history

1096
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.159
throughout all time from the very beginning, you know, people

1097
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.480
really had no rights that were not granted to them

1098
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:18.800
by the government, whatever kind of government was the Asian

1099
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:25.760
governments were all top heavy autocratic, aristocratic structures. We had,

1100
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:31.360
you know, we had a semblance of improvement of government

1101
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:36.119
structure in the West and England really from which we

1102
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.599
got our independence. Really gave us a very good foundation

1103
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:44.800
of law and so forth. But the reality is that,

1104
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.880
you know, are the health of a self governing system

1105
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.440
such as we have really depends upon the quality of

1106
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.679
the people. The integrity of the people, I don't mean

1107
01:00:58.719 --> 01:00:59.599
to say quality and.

1108
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.119
A surge in their ways the well.

1109
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:05.000
John Adams said quite clearly Scott, as you know, our

1110
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:09.760
constitution was designed for a people of morality, most.

1111
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:15.559
Religious people exactly. Yes, and he wasn't the only one.

1112
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:20.400
I mean, you know we've had We've had many, but

1113
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:24.960
but we know that our founding was our society was

1114
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.480
so much more religious at the time of the founding

1115
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.440
of America. I mean it was if you ask people,

1116
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:36.639
you know, what was their religion, they would all basically

1117
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:44.039
all of them would acknowledge Christianity. Even non churchgoers would

1118
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:47.280
say that they were Christian. So there was this respect

1119
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:50.800
for biblical truths. And of course the Bible is really

1120
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:53.960
the most amazing book in all of human history and

1121
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.320
sort of describing God's character and our relationship with God,

1122
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:03.840
and what a good society, how it's built, how it's structured,

1123
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.320
and it's not complicated.

1124
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:07.280
Yeah, what it looks like.

1125
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:11.039
And you know that you would love one another right

1126
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.039
as you love yourself. You start the first starts with God.

1127
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:17.679
You love God, because that's that's the compass. If you're

1128
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:20.400
loving God, then your north star is set.

1129
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.159
And it's easier.

1130
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.679
Then because when you go to love everybody else, you're

1131
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.920
going to run into some pains and you go, oh God,

1132
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:34.639
and God helps you, helps you draw perspective where you

1133
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:40.440
can you know, broaden your heart to embrace somebody that's

1134
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:41.159
not like you.

1135
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:45.960
That's right, Yeah, Yeah, I mean the Golden Rule kind

1136
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:49.000
of says a lot in saying that we want to

1137
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.119
live our lives in such a way that we treat

1138
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:54.199
other people as we would want them to treat us.

1139
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:55.480
Yeah.

1140
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.920
And it's it's as simple as that. It's it's a

1141
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:02.519
it's a system of simple virtue, if you will.

1142
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:03.400
Uh.

1143
01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:09.280
And as we walked away from that, we have we're

1144
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.480
you know, we're reaping the consequences in modern times where

1145
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:16.880
we've kind of driven the moral and and and issues

1146
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.159
of virtue out of the public square, out of the culture.

1147
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:27.119
What we have replacing it but for tunism and and

1148
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:32.679
you know, power and right aggrandizing ourselves.

1149
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:33.440
Right.

1150
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:35.760
So this is what this is what happens when you

1151
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:40.480
empower a government that has disdain for those moral vies

1152
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:43.119
virtus right. And this is where we are right now,

1153
01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:45.719
which is oh my god. It sounds like what happened

1154
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.760
during the Revolutionary War and the declaration read the Declaration

1155
01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:52.559
of Independence. I mean, that's a clear pronouncement that the

1156
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.559
government was no longer interested in its constituents. Uh, and

1157
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.320
they weren't looking at them at a higher level as

1158
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:04.360
ima jodo as images of God.

1159
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:09.559
Right mm hm yes, yeah, yeah. So here we are

1160
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.880
and uh, I mean I I do think that spiritual

1161
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:17.320
revival is happening in pockets here and there. We really

1162
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:20.719
need a you know, a real big spiritual revival like

1163
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:24.679
we had in the Great Awakening before the War of Independence.

1164
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:27.599
It's argued, you know, one could simply argue that without

1165
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.400
that Great Awakening the War of Independence would we we

1166
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:32.719
would not have achieved There's.

1167
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.000
No doubt, no doubt. But how much worse does it

1168
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:35.440
have to get?

1169
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.719
Scott Well I was saying all throughout the Biden years

1170
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:41.599
that we had to this was a bottoming out. And

1171
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.199
I do think we've probably bottomed out. We just haven't.

1172
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:50.440
We haven't made the progress in terms of the cultural

1173
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.960
transformation because government can't do that. You know, I think

1174
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.639
we have. I think we have, you know, a very

1175
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.480
effective government. We have strong leadership, which we need. You

1176
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.880
need strong leadership, you know, in a world of adversaries,

1177
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:11.480
adversaries being a China being, Russia being you know, we

1178
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:15.400
at Venezuela and our hemisphere in Cuba and now we're

1179
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.840
dealing with Iran, right, you know, we need strong leadership.

1180
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:26.440
We have that, But meanwhile we're still stuck in American

1181
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:30.719
culture and politics with depravity.

1182
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:32.480
Really, let's go to break.

1183
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:33.840
We'll pick it up on the other side. More from

1184
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.039
Scott Powell. After this, time share owners, listen to this.

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We're back with it, Bill Martinez here wi Scott Powell,

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Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

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In his book Rediscovering America, You've got to check it out.

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You don't have a copy, especially in.

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Light of our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, which is

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just around the Scott, can you imagine and I were

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talking at the turn of the year and it was,

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you know, it seemed like were so far away, and

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here we are. I mean, you know, now we're weeks

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away from this incredible celebration and hopefully and prayerfully the

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American people end mass and individually this will this is

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what will ignite change. And you said it quite clearly,

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it's about individual responsibility. Whatever it is, maybe something will

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break through on this two one hundred and fiftieth anniversary

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that will.

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Cause people to say, you know what, it's okay to.

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Live in an excellent country that is pursuing its its

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highest lie level of perfection. Not that we're claiming, but

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01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:07.640
we're always you know, progressing toward a better America, you know,

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for next year and that, and that we're committed to

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that goal. And you know, I think that there's been

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some positive signs. Like you said, I think the the

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Supreme Court decision that said, you know, there's you know,

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this idea of systemic racism is gone. I'm still waiting

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for America to get out on the streets and celebrate that.

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I think there was such a huge victory. Scot Well

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you know, it's.

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Interesting that you you raise that because I've just been

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thinking about that. You know, Rediscovering America does do a

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great job in tracing God's hand behind American history. And

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God's hand is clearly moving in a positive direction. And

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it was progress was being moral, progress was being made

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from the beat, from the founding of America. Remember, we

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were founded at a time when there was slavery in

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our country. We didn't ask the slavery to come here.

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It was brought by slave traders who it's uh, you know,

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it basically introduced black labor through a system of indentured servitude,

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not actual slavery, an indention servitude had a there was

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a legal status in Great Britain about that.

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Well, time and again go back and you were free.

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I'm sorry, just I want to interject this again because

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sometimes what happens we go fast forward and talk about slavery,

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we don't talk about the.

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Roots of slavery.

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It was blacks capturing blacks, selling them to uh, to businesses,

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you know, and uh, and then they they came, they

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came here. So it wasn't like America went and you know,

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this is this has been the nature of history. You know,

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you go to war and if you lose, you get

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captured and you're enslaved.

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UH.

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And it didn't matter what color you are. It just

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so happened. In this particular case, a lot of those

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UH slaves were coming from Africa, and it was just

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black people conquer black people and selling them. And so

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then you know, it's like there's plenty of guilt to

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go all the way around, right.

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It really is, there really is, but that. But but

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the reality is that we're coming up on July fourth,

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the celebration of the Declaration of Independence.

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UH.

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Jefferson cast a vision of equality in the Declaration of

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Independence very clearly that we were what was a distinguishing

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quality about America is that all people were equal. Okay, well,

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of course created created, they created equal that equal stature.

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Of course, that didn't exist with slave. With slavery, slaves

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were clearly unequal. But he vision and and we fought

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a war over it, the Civil War. And even even

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though we the Union forces won and slavery was eliminated legally,

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it it the slaves were free through the Civil War.

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Slavery ended by the Civil War, but the residuals there

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was discrimination, segregation, there were black laws and so forth

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that existed right into the twentieth century. Well, God didn't

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give up on us, you know. And in fact, we

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could argue that Martin Luther King was raised up by

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God in the nineteen forties and fifties to really bring

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a full realization of the vision that was cast by

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the Declaration of Independence. And he did that. I mean,

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Martin Luther King went to jail twenty nine times in

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his Civil rights movement, which started in nineteen fifty five.

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People forget how long the Civil rights movement, you know,

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how long it took, and the price that was paid

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by really the founder of this movement, Martin Luther King,

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And of course he was joined by many others, black

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and a lot of religious people, Jewish people, Christian people,

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because in our heart of hearts, Americans knew that equality

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01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:16.359
was really God's vision for us. All people have equal value,

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01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:21.600
and discrimination against black, segregation and so forth needed to end,

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and it was ended through the Civil Rights movement.

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But yet there was a consciousness.

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But there was a consciousness though this needed to be

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01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:33.159
cleared up absolutely.

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And I got to say that.

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01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:38.520
Martin Luther King, if he was alive today, would be

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01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:41.960
very much aggrieved by what the Southern Poverty Law Center

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has done Scott in terms of hijacking this movement and

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01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.920
all these other race hustlers that are resisting and everything.

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01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:53.159
But they're worse than race wrestlers. There are race wrestlers.

1366
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:57.479
But behind a lot of this are really hardcore Marxists

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who hate God, hate Erica, and they just they are revolutionary.

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They want to see an overturning of a godly society

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into one in which, in the name of socialist equality,

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01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:19.640
the leaders really have all the power. Marxism is used

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01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:22.720
as a power system, just like the Muslim religion is

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01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:25.239
really a fake religion. I'll be very direct and honest

1373
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:28.239
about it. The Muslim religion is not a true religion.

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01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.520
It is the system of power. It is a political

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01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:36.279
system to control society. If you don't think that Muslims

1376
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:42.199
are controlled people, go to any Muslim country right and

1377
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:44.760
see it with your own eyes. These are not free people.

1378
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:50.119
These people are in since they are controlled. America was

1379
01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:53.079
born out of this notion is that God wanted to

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01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.760
deliberate us from control. And that's what self government is

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01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:59.760
all about. But self government depends upon the virtue of

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01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:00.319
the people.

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Right.

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01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:04.359
Well, as we've as we've walked away from God, we've

1385
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:07.079
run into all these problems in our country.

1386
01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:09.399
Scott. You touch on something that's really important here.

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I want people to catch this is that, in much

1388
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:16.000
the same way as the Apostles, when Jesus died and

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01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:19.560
he rose from the grave, they experienced a sense of

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01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.880
liberty that they hadn't you know, they thought maybe it

1391
01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:26.039
was a dream. They didn't know quite, they didn't quite understand,

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01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:30.079
they couldn't quite necessarily articulate it. But by the power

1393
01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:33.720
of the Holy Spirit and the clarity of what it

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01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:36.439
was like, their eyes were opened up and they realized

1395
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:39.359
that this is about being free. I mean, they were

1396
01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:42.279
so liberated Scott that they were happy to go to

1397
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:44.600
their own crucifixion and murders.

1398
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.680
Right, yes, And the deal is today speaking of.

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01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:53.600
Muslims, Muslims will you know, realize the dream in the

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01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:57.479
middle of the night and they catch liberty, they catch freedom,

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01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.680
and they're willing to walk away from their families, their

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01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:05.720
culture and everything and even the threat of dirder, of

1403
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:11.960
martyrdom and death, and they convert to Christianity because only

1404
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:13.600
God can give you liberty.

1405
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:15.159
That's right, that's right.

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01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:20.319
And you know, the conversion of Muslims is of course

1407
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:24.560
facilitated by a common ancestor. His name was Abraham. These

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01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:29.520
the Muslim faith is an Abrahamic religion, as is Judaism,

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01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:34.239
as is Christianity. They all came from Abraham's family, right,

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01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:37.800
went different directions. Of course, Christianity was built on the

1411
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:44.560
foundation of Judaism, and the Muslim religion was born well

1412
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:48.119
after Christianity was born, about six hundred years later.

1413
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:48.920
Exactly.

1414
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:54.239
The Muslim religion was actually founded by Mohammad. But you know,

1415
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:58.520
for anyone who thinks that that the Muslim religion was

1416
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:02.880
founded by a godly man, these read read the pigraphy

1417
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:04.159
of Mohammed.

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01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:07.760
Right and again. The other thing is we're back to

1419
01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:10.359
the tree. Look at the tree and look at the

1420
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.880
fruit that is delivered there. Is it righteous fruit? Is

1421
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:16.640
it godly fruit? Is it fruit that loves one another?

1422
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:19.920
Is it fruit that unites in spite of what you're

1423
01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:22.159
dealing with. I mean, this is the thing when you

1424
01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:25.000
look at the history of America, the fruit of this

1425
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:29.199
great American idea that God planted not only for America

1426
01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:32.199
but for the world. I believe Scott, yes, absolutely, you

1427
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:34.239
look at it and you go, you know it had

1428
01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:35.560
to be divine providence.

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01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:39.680
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I mean the story of the founding

1430
01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:42.920
of America is just extraordinary from the you know, from

1431
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:46.399
Columbus is crossing the Ocean. I mean, Columbus was an

1432
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:49.680
amazing Christian evangelist. The history you know, the critics will

1433
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:53.800
never concede that, but he was. He looked forward not

1434
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:57.039
only defining a trade route to the far East because

1435
01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:59.479
he was a seafaring guy, so that was his his

1436
01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:04.960
world mission, but his personal mission was to encounter people

1437
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:08.359
that had never heard the message of the Savior. Right

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01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.640
he'd have the opportunity to bring them that great message.

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Hey, good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.

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Bill Martinez here, we got Kelsey Griffin. She's joining us

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to you know, help us make sure that we have

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the perfect weekend their bag. Because it's the season. Spring

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is in full swing, which means it's time to start

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packing for those sun filled getaways. And as I mentioned,

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Kelsey is here to share tips to packing the perfect

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weekend travel bag.

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Kelsey, welcome the show. Good to have you with us.

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Hi, thanks for having me.

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Okay, we're taking notes here.

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So what's the first thing you're packing in your weekend

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getaway bag?

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01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:32.199
Yeah?

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So I always like to, you know, pack tons of

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layers because planes, trains, cars, they just never seem to

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be the temperature that you want them to be. So

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layers are the most important thing, you know when you're

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01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:48.680
packing for a trip. But you know, people often think

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of travel as just vacations, but so many of life's

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biggest moments, like I don't know, a new job, relocation,

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home renovation, or even a temporary work assignment, all of

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01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:02.560
the things can take us away from home for weeks,

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if not months. So that's why I love Wyndham Hotels

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and Resorts. They offer an extended day brand for every

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type of traveler. So think brands like Hawthorn, Echo Suites,

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water Work, water Walk. These are all designed for travelers

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who need more than just a place to sleep. Plus,

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with spacious suites, kitchens, and thoughtful amenities like on site laundry,

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full gyms, and smart TVs, guests can maintain their routines

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and feel more at home while they're away. And right

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now they're running a variety of offers that can help

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I just want you to know it's a sidebar.

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I've done a couple of interviews at their hotels. I

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01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:48.880
mean they're just so awesome. I mean they do such

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a great job. So, yes, it's the total package. You Now,

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01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:55.640
as you mentioned, some of these stays can get extended,

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and so you know what you're putting in the bag.

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Sometimes you have to be flexible. It's not you know,

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because you may think, hey, I'm going to Hawaii. It's

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all sunshine and blue skies and everything, and then here

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come the rains, right yes.

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Yeah, yeah, So you know, there's certain ways we can

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01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:16.479
stay comfortable, organized refreshed while you're traveling. So and the

1555
01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.399
goal is always to make travel feel less stressful, right,

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01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:22.079
So it really does come down to those three things. So,

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01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:25.640
like I mentioned earlier, for comfort, layers are so key

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01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:28.359
because temperatures are all over the place and you just

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01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:31.399
never know what you're gonna need. And then organization is

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really what saves me the most stress by far. So

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01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:36.279
what I actually like to do is I keep a

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01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:39.960
tech pouch and a toiletrees bag packed just at all times,

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01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:43.479
so I have a set of cords, chargers, adapters, and

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01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:46.479
then also my travel sized toiletries just packed and ready

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01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:50.439
to go. So that way, anytime I travel, I you know,

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know that I have my bare minimum absolute essentials with

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me and I don't have to worry about those. And then,

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you know, for feeling refreshed after a long travel day,

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01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:00.800
I like to keep just a few small items in

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my bag, so things like a face miss, a lip bomb,

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01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:07.960
maybe some gum, just little items, nothing too complicated, but

1572
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.279
they really do make a big difference after a really

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long day.

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Well, we're talking with Kelsey Griffin. She's a self proclaimed

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chopoholic that's her word. Okay, SPF enthusiast and shiny hair connoisseur.

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How's that?

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And we're lucky to have her here today to help

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us with these travel trips. What are the absolute must

1579
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:29.880
have items for these summer months?

1580
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:35.640
Yeah, you know, well, especially when it comes to traveling

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with families. I know I personally do not have kids,

1582
01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:42.000
but you know, I have you know, cousins with kids,

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and you know you really want to keep the trip

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stress free, and so going somewhere like Lego Land, Florida

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will just make your life so much easier because it

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is really built for families, with over fifty rides, shows

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and attractions, plus a water park, a Sea Life aquarium,

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and Pepa Pig theme park all in one place. They

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have their new Galactic Coaster, which is an indoor space

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themed family coaster where kids can customize their own spacecraft.

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And they have their Lego Festival running through July twentieth

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through August sixteenth, with five different interactive zones that are

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packed with build challenges and live entertainment, and running June

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eleventh through June sixteenth is their FIFA World Cup twenty

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twenty six experience where kids can meet Lego versions of

1596
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soccer superstars like Ronaldo and Messi and they can attempt

1597
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to score against a life size Lego figure.

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How fun.

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And also on July fourth, they have their Red, White,

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and Boom returning to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday,

1601
01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:45.079
and they're going to have this really amazing firework show,

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01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:47.520
so tons of stuff to go on for the family.

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Not a lot of planning on your end, and you

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01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:52.840
can find out more at legoland dot com slash Florida.

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01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:55.119
It looks like so much fun. It's going to be

1606
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:57.279
great for the grandkids. Take them out there. I can't wait.

1607
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.399
The other thing too, I would share with this because

1608
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:03.159
traveling is you got to manage the stress stuff right

1609
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:06.399
and especially when we were kids. And this one family

1610
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:09.039
that I appreciated. They have their kids on the plane

1611
01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:12.880
and what they did is they brought little snacks further

1612
01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:15.000
for the passengers that were nearby.

1613
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:18.239
You know, say hey, we just got in advance. You

1614
01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:20.880
know that was awesome. That was a great idea.

1615
01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:25.399
Okay, so advance, yeah exactly. So as we wrap things

1616
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:27.479
up here, Kelsey, again, thank you so much for this

1617
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:31.279
the great advice. Just remind everybody summarize again very quickly

1618
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:33.520
what we need to do and then where we can

1619
01:29:33.560 --> 01:29:34.479
go for more information.

1620
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:36.159
Yeah.

1621
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:38.840
So for your extended stays, always be sure to check

1622
01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:40.960
out wind them. They have a ton of different brands,

1623
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.319
you know, packing layers, have your tech pouch ready, your

1624
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:47.960
toilet trees, and then Lego Land Florida really is the

1625
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.680
best for families for a stress free at trips, So

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you can go to each of these brands websites for

1627
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more information.

1628
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:57.079
Well, the one and only Kelsey Griffin and we're fortunate

1629
01:29:57.119 --> 01:29:59.000
to have her here with all the advice and how

1630
01:29:59.039 --> 01:30:01.800
to pack that perfect wink and her bag. Kelsey, thank

1631
01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:03.399
you so much, take care be well.

1632
01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:07.159
Thank you so How much fun was Kelsey?

1633
01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:07.439
Huh?

1634
01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:08.359
Were you taking notes?

1635
01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:08.960
Boy?

1636
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.079
I'll tell you she had some great tips and ideas

1637
01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:13.880
to share with us to make sure that you know,

1638
01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.039
we have a stress free summer getaway.

1639
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:19.159
And she has turned it into an art. I mean, from.

1640
01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:23.720
Travel, beauty tips, standout stays. She's the lifestyle expert with

1641
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:29.720
this summers must have for an effortless holiday adventure. I mean,

1642
01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:32.800
why not enjoy the summer and plan right, do right

1643
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:36.880
and keep it safe and travel smarter. And we're grateful

1644
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:40.079
again for Kelsey Griffin to.

1645
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:40.279
Be joining us.

1646
01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:43.840
Coming up next, I've got a real treat for you.

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A holiday that's coming up that you know probably is

1648
01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:50.479
you know you might have a little note on it.

1649
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:52.079
On Sunday, It's Flag Day.

1650
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:55.319
It's one of those holidays that people just kind of

1651
01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:59.159
overlook for some reason, and it's a bit of a

1652
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:02.079
mystery to me as to why that is the case.

1653
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:04.640
And I say a mystery to me because you know,

1654
01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:09.359
being a marine, you know the flag is important. It's

1655
01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:11.840
just the way we were raised and of course part

1656
01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:12.920
of the tradition of our.

1657
01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:13.520
Family in that.

1658
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:19.359
But I'm really amazed to see how little everyday people

1659
01:31:19.399 --> 01:31:24.000
participate in this incredible event, and especially in light of

1660
01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:26.600
our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary that you hear me

1661
01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:30.520
reminding you that's just around the corner. Well, speaking of

1662
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:34.000
Flag Day, there's a documentary it's coming out in the

1663
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:37.439
movies this week. It's called Flag Day, and it offers

1664
01:31:37.479 --> 01:31:42.439
a grounded human entry point into you know, these conversations

1665
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:47.319
about you know, about our beginnings and you know the

1666
01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:50.439
flag and how significant it is. And even still, you know,

1667
01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:52.720
we have freedom of speech, and you see people that

1668
01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:59.119
desecrated that. That grieves me because it really speaks of

1669
01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:03.439
just how ignorant that somebody must be when they feel

1670
01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:04.479
that way about the flag.

1671
01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:07.520
They don't realize what that flag, what it.

1672
01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:10.720
Represents, you know, the million plus people that have paid

1673
01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:13.039
the ultimate price for our freedoms, not to mention those

1674
01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:15.399
that have been injured, those that have defended this country

1675
01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:23.119
and our American dream, this incredible constitutional, democratic republic that

1676
01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:27.039
is supposed to be a government of for and by

1677
01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:30.840
we the people. Well, this documentary is it's set in

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01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:34.119
Three Oaks, Michigan. It happens to be a home to

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01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:37.399
the nation's largest flag day. Praye, did you know that?

1680
01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:40.600
I didn't know that they have the largest flag Day.

1681
01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:45.560
This has been going on for years. Anyway, This documentary

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01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:47.760
is a portrait of this small town how they come

1683
01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:52.520
together each year to celebrate, question and redefine, and I

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01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:57.279
think maybe even improve and help us with some clarity

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01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:02.159
understand what this holiday means. And you're going to hear it,

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01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:06.520
you know, right there from the streets of Michigan, some

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01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:08.800
good things out of Michigan as opposed to some of

1688
01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:12.279
the things that we've been hearing about maybe not so

1689
01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:14.880
so wonderful these days in the news. But I think

1690
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.800
this is going to really open up, you know, the

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01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:21.159
vistas of your understanding about Flag Day and how important

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01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:25.119
it is. And we're honored to have with us the

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01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:28.279
people that produced, edited and directed, the husband and wife

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01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:33.159
team andrewsche and Melissa Shay and this said documentary, like

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01:33:33.199 --> 01:33:35.119
I said, is going to be out in theaters and

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01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:39.399
available for streaming, and Andrew and Melissa will share all

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01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:42.640
the details coming up in just a moment right here

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Hey, welcome back, Good morning to you Bill Martinez. Here,

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We've got a real street. We're going to honor flect

1773
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:57.800
it in a real special way. A documentary has just

1774
01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:00.079
been released at Fact is going to be coming to

1775
01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:02.920
a theater here this week, just in time for Flag Day,

1776
01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:06.720
which is officially on Sunday. And Andrew Shay and Melissa

1777
01:38:06.760 --> 01:38:11.319
sha who produced, edited, directed, and they're still you know,

1778
01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:12.960
they're still married.

1779
01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:13.600
Throughout all this, right.

1780
01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:17.399
Incredible, Yes, I mean.

1781
01:38:17.399 --> 01:38:19.720
What a project to take this on.

1782
01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:23.920
Andrew, first of all, let me start with you. You know

1783
01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.279
this documentary. How did this idea come about?

1784
01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:32.359
Well, Melissa and I we've been spending our summers up

1785
01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:36.319
in southwest Michigan since twenty twelve, and we're neither one

1786
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:39.760
of us is from the Midwest, but we began spending

1787
01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:42.199
time up there for a couple of reasons, mostly to

1788
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:44.159
get out of the Texas heat in the summertime.

1789
01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:46.479
Our kids were young at the time, and.

1790
01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:50.319
We had just hired a young woman to take care

1791
01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:52.880
of our kids during the days because we were busy

1792
01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:55.479
editing another film. And she said, you should come see

1793
01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:58.560
this parade over in Three Oaks, where I live, and

1794
01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:00.920
we thought, okay, it might be fun. So we went

1795
01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:04.039
over there in mid June and we saw the prey.

1796
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:06.600
It was the Flag Day parade and it was just

1797
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:10.399
a startling, beautiful event. And Sandra, the young woman who

1798
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:12.680
was working for us as taking care of our kids,

1799
01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:14.880
she appeared at the top of the float as Miss

1800
01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:15.640
three Oaks.

1801
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:16.560
Oh wow.

1802
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:17.800
So from that moment on.

1803
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:21.159
We were just really smitten with the parade, and we

1804
01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:25.479
began going back every year and making deeper connections.

1805
01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:27.439
In the community over the years, and we.

1806
01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:31.319
Eventually came to think that, especially in an election year

1807
01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:34.199
in twenty twenty four, that this could be a really powerful,

1808
01:39:34.279 --> 01:39:38.640
inspiring documentary to portray this event, not just the event,

1809
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:42.359
but all the little dramas and moments of humor that

1810
01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:45.079
take place before the parade and during the parade.

1811
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:46.359
But we really.

1812
01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:49.199
Wanted to showcase the sense of unity in this one

1813
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:51.479
particular community in Michigan.

1814
01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:54.399
Melissa, as you were putting this together, you know, just

1815
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:59.399
as Andrew was saying, there's so much there's so many stories,

1816
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:03.840
I should say, right, I mean, it's a tapestry, you

1817
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:07.319
know that. I mean to me and hearing this, this

1818
01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:10.079
is the way it strike strikes me. How did it

1819
01:40:10.119 --> 01:40:12.479
strike you?

1820
01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:16.119
You know? We had always there was like the units

1821
01:40:16.119 --> 01:40:17.319
that really.

1822
01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.159
We loved seeing and the parade from.

1823
01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:22.520
That very first time. The tractors were just I mean

1824
01:40:22.720 --> 01:40:25.640
there must be fifty or sixty of them, I mean,

1825
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:28.199
and it was just we loved it. We were you know,

1826
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.680
the floats, there's lots of you know, three oaks is

1827
01:40:31.720 --> 01:40:35.119
only one of community floats, and so there was just

1828
01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:39.640
something about the pageantry and the pride of people coming

1829
01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:43.359
out and you know, shining up their tractors for this

1830
01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:48.000
one day, and we just you know, loved it. And

1831
01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:51.600
the other unit was the Michigan City Soul Steppers, and

1832
01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:55.560
they just brought so much energy to the parade and

1833
01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:58.600
the crowd loves them. I mean, they really are just

1834
01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:02.159
you know, their enthusiasm and commitment is contagious. So we

1835
01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:05.960
kind of followed our instincts to the units and people

1836
01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:08.319
that we just felt most connected to.

1837
01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:14.079
I got to imagine that, you're the level of patriotism

1838
01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:16.359
must intensify.

1839
01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:18.319
How can it not, right Andrew.

1840
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.680
Yeah, I mean you mean for us or for I.

1841
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:22.520
Mean for everybody.

1842
01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:24.720
I mean, well, I mean it is.

1843
01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:27.359
A patriotic community, and you know, I mean we have

1844
01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:30.279
a young man, Levi Stoss who says that in the film.

1845
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:31.560
But I don't think it's.

1846
01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:35.199
Different from from a lot of other Heartland communities, you know,

1847
01:41:35.279 --> 01:41:37.560
who take a lot of pride in the flag is

1848
01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:40.479
a symbol of our country, but in our in our veterans.

1849
01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:43.600
To me, that's what this was more than anything. It

1850
01:41:43.640 --> 01:41:46.520
was about really celebrating our veterans. So we made a

1851
01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:50.840
point of featuring a number of veterans as our principal subjects.

1852
01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:54.039
The American Legion and Three Oaks became a key focal

1853
01:41:54.119 --> 01:41:56.479
point for us in the making of the movie, and

1854
01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:57.399
they were big.

1855
01:41:57.239 --> 01:41:58.359
Supporters of ours.

1856
01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:01.760
And you know, we had Albert Senior there, the oldest

1857
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:05.600
vet in town, and his son, Albert Junior, who were

1858
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:08.920
very eloquent about what Three Oaks has meant to them

1859
01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:11.760
and what the flag means to them. So it just

1860
01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:15.960
really became a And again, I don't think Three Oaks

1861
01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.560
is unique. I just think it really wears its pride

1862
01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:23.239
in this country on its sleeve, maybe more than some

1863
01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:24.119
other communities.

1864
01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:27.000
You know, Melissa, I have a tendency to agree with

1865
01:42:27.079 --> 01:42:29.399
Andrew a bit here is that you know, it's kind

1866
01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:31.319
of like, if you build it, they'll come. You know

1867
01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:36.640
that there's probably more of a universal patriotism than we realize.

1868
01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:38.399
But it seems like for.

1869
01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:43.319
The last decade, you know, America's soul and heart has

1870
01:42:43.399 --> 01:42:47.720
been challenged, and you know, so anytime we can have

1871
01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:53.079
events like this that honors you know, are founding, that

1872
01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:56.840
honors the rich tradition and things that really that have

1873
01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:01.199
made America exceptional. And yes, no doubt about it. The

1874
01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:04.479
country is exceptional. But it wasn't like all of a

1875
01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:06.560
sudden it was just handed to us, was it.

1876
01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:11.600
No, I agree with you, and it is that I

1877
01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:15.840
think commitment to the generations in Three Oaks who have

1878
01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:20.319
served and who have continued to build this community that

1879
01:43:20.760 --> 01:43:24.840
really speaks loudly. I mean, there is I asked the

1880
01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:29.199
parade coordinator just yesterday to tell me what patriotism means

1881
01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:32.079
to her, because I feel like we're projecting in a sense,

1882
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:35.039
like we see it quite clearly, but you know, and

1883
01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:37.680
I think it's something that is kind of elusive for

1884
01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:41.920
people to put into words. But yet it's a feeling

1885
01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:46.640
of belonging and pride and respect for how this country

1886
01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:50.159
was built. And I feel that there's elements in this

1887
01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.800
film that some people may feel like, what is this

1888
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:57.560
unit doing here? But these people have shown up year

1889
01:43:57.640 --> 01:44:00.720
after year and have participated and are part of this

1890
01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:05.319
event and part of the community now. And the more

1891
01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:08.039
I think about it, it's more about showing up every

1892
01:44:08.119 --> 01:44:09.479
day and year after year.

1893
01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:14.479
Yeah, and Andrew, what this documentary shows is that we

1894
01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:18.640
are inclusive. We've been told that we're not, but we

1895
01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:22.000
are very much so, and I love here. Recently and

1896
01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:25.800
I've been saying, you know, when the Supreme Court's recent

1897
01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:31.039
decision that put kind of the death nail into systemic racism,

1898
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.039
you know, it was things that I think most of

1899
01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:37.319
America was already there, but we needed somebody to pronounce,

1900
01:44:37.680 --> 01:44:41.079
you know, like the Emancipation Proclamation is that in fact,

1901
01:44:41.159 --> 01:44:45.640
we are free at last, and that this idea of

1902
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:50.079
racism is it's run its course. And I think that

1903
01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:55.359
your documentary in some way kind of adds a dimension

1904
01:44:55.760 --> 01:44:58.119
that I think that's important right now, and it's timely

1905
01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:02.039
that this documentary is coming out right now, you know,

1906
01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:04.239
as we head into too our two one hundred and

1907
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:07.119
fiftieth anniversary, what do you say, Yeah, you know.

1908
01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:10.439
I absolutely in terms of the timing of the film,

1909
01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:13.000
we knew that, you know that we knew twenty twenty

1910
01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:14.560
four was going to be an election year and that

1911
01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:18.239
Michigan is a battleground state, and then you know, it's

1912
01:45:18.319 --> 01:45:21.840
divided politically, but we want to show people coming together

1913
01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:28.079
across those divides cultural political, racial divides, and we hope

1914
01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:31.199
that the film expresses that theme, you know, to us

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when Albert Brayboyd Junior early in the film says the

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flag isn't democratic, it's not republican. It belongs to all

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of us, and we need to take the narrative back

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to us. I think for me and Melissa, that expresses

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the theme of the story more than anything, this idea

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of rising above partisanship to celebrate the bonds that keep

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us together.

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Right you see, Melissa, I think that part of the

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challenge we have here in America today is that the organization,

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the organist lineup, has flipped a little bit. Politics is

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supposed to be downstream culture, right, so the culture itself

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dictates politics. What's happened is there's been a flip that

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has occurred where politics is upstream culture. And this is

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why we have this animist that has infected the culture.

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The people need to understand, just like Andrew just said,

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you know, our flag is not republican, it's not democrat.

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The million plus people that paid the ultimate price and

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died for freedom in our country, you know, they're not

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divided by party. These are American citizens that surrendered their

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lives so that we could enjoy freedom today.

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Right.

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Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think that really is the

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message of the film and what we hope that people

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will take away from it. We had a good friend

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who saw an early screening who came away. I mean,

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she was in tears after the screening and she said,

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I'm so angry at myself for not hanging my flag

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the last you know, three four years. And so I

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think that you know, letting reminding everyone that everyone has

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a seat at the table, right and you know, to

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be included. The more you show up, the more you're included.

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Yeah, I'm old enough to you know, remember the protests

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against the Vietnam War. I grew up in the sixties

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and early seventies and and you know.

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And that was a very divided time also in a

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lot of ways.

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And I think a lot of veterans came back from

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that that conflict and we're not treated well. And I

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think that today we can all accept and embrace the

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idea that we should respect and review our veterans, whether

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we believe necessarily in a particular conflict or whether we

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support a particular political party.

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I think we can all get behind our veterans.

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Yeah, because like Melissa said, we showed up.

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Melissa, you know, my brothers and I were Vietnam era

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vets and I love and respect that people say, you know,

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welcome home, because we weren't necessarily welcome, you know.

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After being remember that very well to Andrew's point.

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But you know, the deal is is that in spite

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of all the conflict, it's not always been hunky dory

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in our country. You know, guess what, we have something

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that unites us and what better than the flag Melissa

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right now, it.

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Is wonderful to see and truly, I think from that

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first experience of the parade, we've been struck by how

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people rally around this event.

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And you know, you know, to be honest.

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We weren't even aware of really the holiday of Flag Day.

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So this was a nice introduction to it.

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Excellent, well, Andrew, as we wrap things up again, remind

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everybody about the documentary, how they can see it, and

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a website for more information.

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Go ahead, yes, thank you.

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The film is going to be opening in theaters all

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over the country, mostly in the Midwest, but but in

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other communities as well this weekend during Flag Day weekend,

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and then it's going to spread across other parts of

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the country.

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It's going to be in New York and then Philadelphia.

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All of the screenings are listed on our website, which

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is flag Dayfilm dot com www dot flag dayfilm dot com.

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And we also offer free community screenings for libraries and

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American legions and civic organizations that may be interested in

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screening a film outside of traditional theatrical environment. So all

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of those resources are available on the website. You can

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reach out to us through the website, and we really

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want to make the film as widely available as possible.

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Well, they produced, edited, directed, and stayed mary through it all.

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As I might say, Andrew and Melissa Shay God bless

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you too. Thank you so much. This is such a

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great gift to our country. We appreciate you, take care

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of you.

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